Speaker 1: Hey, what's up everybody?
Speaker 2: Welcome to the Gatias Charge podcast, presented by the Charters
Speaker 2: Podcast Network. My name is Stephen and I'm the host
Speaker 2: is always and and joining me is my guy Tyler.
Speaker 1: Tyler, what'sup? And Hi? Doing tonight?
Speaker 3: Doing very well, but wondering, Stephen, why don't we live
Speaker 3: in r v's next to each other?
Speaker 2: That would definitely make for easier recording process. For sure,
Speaker 2: we'd get more content in person, although recording outside of
Speaker 2: an RV not the best backdrop or audio quality.
Speaker 1: I would imagine now as well.
Speaker 2: But maybe someday down the road, when we're old and grey,
Speaker 2: we can do the RV thing next to each.
Speaker 3: Other sounds good. We'll live in a van done by
Speaker 3: the river or something.
Speaker 1: Love it.
Speaker 2: Jim Arvill obviously had a wonderful press conference today at
Speaker 2: the annual Ownership Meetings, where he and highlighted that him
Speaker 2: and Greg Roman are living next to each other in
Speaker 2: our v's. Apparently Greg Roman has a nicer RV, but
Speaker 2: Jim had to clarify that he's getting into his future
Speaker 2: house earlier than Greg, so Jim wins the competition of
Speaker 2: nicer living situation.
Speaker 1: Apparently, so a lot.
Speaker 2: Of fun stuff to dive into there, and then we
Speaker 2: are going to highlight our draft non negotiables. This is
Speaker 2: an episode idea that we wanted to hit on. You know,
Speaker 2: we did a form of this on our own channel
Speaker 2: for free agency. In terms of free agency, must have
Speaker 2: the essentials, if you will. These are the things that
Speaker 2: Tyler and I believe that this team has to accomplish
Speaker 2: in free agency and obviously now in the draft going forward.
Speaker 2: So should be a fun conversation today, lots of lots
Speaker 2: of great information from Jim harbos press conference, and then
Speaker 2: we'll dive into the draft show as always before we
Speaker 2: get to that conversation. Tyler and I are fans of
Speaker 2: the team just like you guys are. The opinions of
Speaker 2: this show. The opinion that we share every single week
Speaker 2: on this episode are just out there. Are our opinions,
Speaker 2: not the opinions of the organization. At the end of
Speaker 2: the day, we are independent content creators and this is
Speaker 2: a great platform for us to share our opinions. So
Speaker 2: it's been a lot of fun and will continue to
Speaker 2: be a lot of fun as much as we can be.
Speaker 2: So that being said, Tyler, let's dive into these Jim
Speaker 2: Harbaugh takeaways today. Again, if you missed it, it was
Speaker 2: like a thirty five minute conversation that Jim Harbaugh was
Speaker 2: giving to the media. Lots of great questions about Justin
Speaker 2: Herbert Keenan Allen, Mike Williams, the draft, overall philosophies. Some
Speaker 2: people ask them out like the forty nine ers, which
Speaker 2: is like whatever. But Tyler, he had an initial maybe
Speaker 2: a big key takeaway here from the Jim Harbaugh press conference,
Speaker 2: which which would be the starting point for you.
Speaker 3: The quote that basically suggests that Jim Harbaugh really really
Speaker 3: likes Joey Bosa and really loved what he did on
Speaker 3: film last year. I think a lot of us going
Speaker 3: into this free agent process, we were thinking, Okay, you know,
Speaker 3: given the injury history and the contract, you know, the
Speaker 3: Chargers might have to move on from Joey Bosa, But
Speaker 3: when he's on the field, and if he's on the field,
Speaker 3: he's awesome and and clearly Jim Harbaugh feels that way,
Speaker 3: to the point where he said that Joey was having
Speaker 3: a better year than Khalil through that stretch until he
Speaker 3: got hurt. Now, I'm not sure which particular stretch. I
Speaker 3: don't know if it means like all the nine ish
Speaker 3: games he played in that ten week stretch before he
Speaker 3: you know, departed for the rest of the season. Was
Speaker 3: it just a key specific stretch after the buye. I
Speaker 3: don't know, but that's a lot of praise considering Khalil
Speaker 3: Mack was someone who could have been a defensive Player
Speaker 3: of the Year and in my opinion, the best player
Speaker 3: on the Chargers all of last season. So for Jim
Speaker 3: Harbot to look at Joey Bosa and say that guy
Speaker 3: was having a better year or at least a better
Speaker 3: stretch than Khalil Mack says a lot. So they have
Speaker 3: a lot of confidence in him to be that player again,
Speaker 3: a lot of confidence in themselves to get Joey back
Speaker 3: to that. It's very exciting for him to go out
Speaker 3: and say that was a eye opening I'll be honest,
Speaker 3: I did not expect Jim to say that after the
Speaker 3: year that khlu Mac had, but clearly they believe in him.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: That belief I think probably stems from, you know, his
Speaker 2: days of watching him at Ohio State and everything that
Speaker 2: he's done in the NFL since this point. And we
Speaker 2: when we were discussing Joey as like a trade candidate
Speaker 2: or release or anything like that.
Speaker 1: It was always kind.
Speaker 2: Of like, well, if you're a team who thinks you
Speaker 2: can get this guy healthy, you have the potential to
Speaker 2: get a top eight edge rusher in the league on
Speaker 2: your team. And I think it's obvious that Jim believes
Speaker 2: that Ben Herbert can get Joey Bosa right, get sixteen
Speaker 2: seventeen games out of Joey Bosa, and they believe that
Speaker 2: jesse Minzer can get him back to being a top
Speaker 2: eight edge rusher. So you know, the Chargers a lot
Speaker 2: went wrong last season, but the performance of the edge
Speaker 2: rushers was right. I mean, we highlighted it every single week.
Speaker 2: It felt like whether it was Khalil tu Ley or
Speaker 2: Joe we that was like our staple weekly segment was
Speaker 2: which edge rusher was the best? And it's a great
Speaker 2: luxury to have Jesse Mentor highlighted that in his kind
Speaker 2: of opening press conference to the media as well, where
Speaker 2: you look at it around the league and how many
Speaker 2: teams on paper have a better trio of edge rushers
Speaker 2: than what the Chargers have with Khalil Mack, Joey Bosa
Speaker 2: and too Lee tweek below two with everybody presumably healthy
Speaker 2: and taking a step forward in development. So it's a
Speaker 2: it's a obviously the strength of the team at this
Speaker 2: point in time, this is the best position group remainium
Speaker 2: the roster. Obviously can kind of remove quarterback because there's
Speaker 2: only the one player that makes an impact there. But
Speaker 2: if once you remove quarterback, right, it's those are the
Speaker 2: best players on the team in terms of the position room.
Speaker 2: So it's it was it was kind of a surprise,
Speaker 2: But then I thought about it more and I'm like, okay, Like,
Speaker 2: if you really believed in your staff the way that
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh does, I guess I maybe overthought the Joey
Speaker 2: Bosa thing because you know, he does have that potential
Speaker 2: to get back to that top eight form, and I
Speaker 2: know that a lot of people feel a certain way
Speaker 2: about him. But if you just look at the numbers
Speaker 2: of when Joey Bossa was healthy across that like post
Speaker 2: by stretch the Packers game, he was producing like a
Speaker 2: top eight edge rusher, and I think that's obviously something
Speaker 2: that Jim Harbaugh believes they can get back out of him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's that's so exciting, Not that it wasn't
Speaker 3: excited when they already you know retained him, Like, Okay,
Speaker 3: the potential is there, you have mentored super exciting. But
Speaker 3: for Jim to go out and say that like that
Speaker 3: means they're really excited about Joey Bosa and I personally disagree.
Speaker 3: I do think Khalil Mack was always better during that stretch.
Speaker 3: I think being healthy and look, he had a really
Speaker 3: really good season, So it's not like exact yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean excellent season from him and during that stretch
Speaker 3: was still phenomenal all on his own. But Joey, I believe,
Speaker 3: did have a higher pass rush win rate against true
Speaker 3: pass sets during that first ten weeks. So it's not
Speaker 3: it's not unfounded what Jim Harbo was saying, Like there
Speaker 3: is at least statistics including the film to support that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think part of this also is the jesse
Speaker 2: Minter equation. And we kind of talked about this with
Speaker 2: Cody Alexander where he kind of pointed that jesse Minter
Speaker 2: blitzed a lot, did a lot of simulated pressures at
Speaker 2: Michigan in part because he didn't have the edge rushers
Speaker 2: to hold up.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: Now you have three guys who, as Daniel Popper has
Speaker 2: pointed out, a few times have been on the field together.
Speaker 2: I think it was like sixty snaps last year and
Speaker 2: they had like nine sacks. I forget the exact number there,
Speaker 2: but it's a trio when you get them all on
Speaker 2: the field together. We've seen it be a closing unit
Speaker 2: for the team. We've seen it be an explosive past
Speaker 2: us trio for the team. And then you can add
Speaker 2: in Morgan Fox to that group as well. So if
Speaker 2: you're jesse Minter sitting there like hey, like I know,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to take some lumps of linebacker, maybe
Speaker 2: a defensive tackle. I want to keep the edge rush intact.
Speaker 2: And maybe that was kind of the priority from a
Speaker 2: defensive side of things. And now jesse Minter can kind
Speaker 2: of be a little bit of a mad scientist and
Speaker 2: just cook up NASCAR packages with four really really high
Speaker 2: end pass rushers.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean no disrespect to Jalen Harrold and Brida McGregor,
Speaker 3: the two current draftable edge rushers for Michigan, But like
Speaker 3: you know, jesse Minter did not get the Aiden Hutchinson
Speaker 3: and David o'jabo season that McDonald had. He was making
Speaker 3: this defense and creating a great defense the best one
Speaker 3: in college football. With two edge rushers that will be
Speaker 3: maybe like six seventh round guys could go undrafted, Tullie
Speaker 3: Khalil Pack, Joey Bosa. That's a very different caliber of talent.
Speaker 3: And sure they're facing a different caliber of talent across
Speaker 3: from them, but this is more talent. He's ated edge
Speaker 3: rusher by far by quite a bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously he was at they ended U built
Speaker 2: before Michigan, you know, the Ravens edge rushroom when he
Speaker 2: was still there. This is easily the most talent he's
Speaker 2: had at the edge rushroom. So I would imagine he's
Speaker 2: very excited and Jim harbros Seems to inilicate that as well.
Speaker 2: Flipping to the other side of the all him. Harbaugh
Speaker 2: spoke a few different times about the offensive line. I
Speaker 2: wanted to highlight specifically his comments about Jamari Sallier and
Speaker 2: Jordan McFadden, highlighting the versatility of both of those players. Obviously,
Speaker 2: we've seen Jamori play at left tackle and right guard.
Speaker 2: Jordan mcfannon played left tackle and right tackle in college,
Speaker 2: played exclusively this past season at left guard when he
Speaker 2: was a lineman. He's also done like the fullback stuff
Speaker 2: he's done the h back stuff. He'd lined up in
Speaker 2: the slot one time. So Jordan mcfanhnon got a lot
Speaker 2: of different experience playing in roles last season. But Jim
Speaker 2: Harbo believes that Jordan mc fannen could play center as well.
Speaker 2: And I think as we kind of transition into this
Speaker 2: period of time where the Chargers are going to try
Speaker 2: and remake their their offensive line, you need guys like
Speaker 2: those two, like Bradley Boseman, who can play multiple spots,
Speaker 2: because I think the goal really is simply going to
Speaker 2: be get the best five popossible players out there on
Speaker 2: the field and we can kind of figure out the
Speaker 2: positions going forward. Now we've said this before, Bradley Boseman
Speaker 2: is not going to preclude me from drafting a high
Speaker 2: end center if one is there, And same thing with
Speaker 2: Jordan mcfatn. And like, I'm not going to walk into
Speaker 2: the season thinking Jordan Jordan mcfatten is my backup center,
Speaker 2: But it gives you the options where if we draft
Speaker 2: a guy who can't play center but is better shooted
Speaker 2: at guard, like a bou Limmer from Arkansas came out
Speaker 2: in an interview with Justin Millow and said that he
Speaker 2: feels best at guard, but he can play center because
Speaker 2: that's what the team needed last season in Arkansas. So
Speaker 2: maybe you draft a guy like that in the third
Speaker 2: fourth round and he's your starting right guard or maybe
Speaker 2: he's your starting center. It just gives you different kind
Speaker 2: of options. And then Jamari can play different spots like
Speaker 2: Fatnan can play different spots. And I think that's really
Speaker 2: what this first year is going to be about along
Speaker 2: the offensive line, is just getting the best five out there,
Speaker 2: and we'll see how they really address it in terms
Speaker 2: of the draft picks that they make.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so much flexibility this this interior offensive line class,
Speaker 3: especially if you start if you include like Fatanu and Fuaga,
Speaker 3: you I don't think I do, some people do. This
Speaker 3: interior offensive line class is really really good. And the
Speaker 3: more I dive into you know, some of these Day
Speaker 3: three guys you mentioned Hunter Norzad recently watched him, loved
Speaker 3: him like as a Day three guy obviously, but was
Speaker 3: really really strong there. So there's so much flexibility for
Speaker 3: what these guys can do, center, guard, you name it that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if they find that there's a better fit, someone can
Speaker 3: play right guard, someone can be a center or backup center. Great,
Speaker 3: like that does give them options, the Chargers, you know,
Speaker 3: we talked to Tom Telesca, like they try to find
Speaker 3: guys that are versatile, can do different things. So I'm
Speaker 3: very curious then what happens with Jamari because you might
Speaker 3: just come out and say Jamar's our starting guard. Didn't happen, right,
Speaker 3: Some guys are starters by default. Zion's are started by
Speaker 3: default given the first round draft status, and frankly the
Speaker 3: talent Slater's obviously your starter. But he didn't really come
Speaker 3: out outright and say that Jamari is our starter. So
Speaker 3: I am very curious what the plan is there? Do
Speaker 3: they view him a bit more of as a tackle?
Speaker 3: I don't know, because while I do think Jamari is
Speaker 3: a guard, if Harbob views him, maybe he's a better
Speaker 3: swing tackle for this team that does address and need
Speaker 3: this Chargers team really really has had for quite some time,
Speaker 3: Like they have never really had a true legitimate, long
Speaker 3: ish term plan at offensive tackle as the third guy
Speaker 3: on the field. Even Jamari when he played tackle felt
Speaker 3: like a rush. Let's give this a shot. You know,
Speaker 3: so far, if he's their tackle, their swing tackle, then great,
Speaker 3: But I am curious are they going to bring a
Speaker 3: competition to start ahead of him. I think if maybe
Speaker 3: the Chargers had started free agency with more cap space
Speaker 3: and Head made some moves earlier, then maybe you're looking
Speaker 3: at like a Zeitler, for example, coming over from Baltimore
Speaker 3: and being the Charger's right guard. But because they didn't,
Speaker 3: now they're kind of like, Okay, is it going to
Speaker 3: be Jamari? Is it going to be a big fat
Speaker 3: and is it going to be a draft pick? To
Speaker 3: see how that plays out, But like, like you said
Speaker 3: that the best five should be on the field, and
Speaker 3: no doubt in my mind, Harback, Greg Roam with these
Speaker 3: guys will figure that up.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think as it pertains to Jamari, I still believe
Speaker 2: that his best position is at guard. Maybe that's a
Speaker 2: left guard, maybe that's a right guard.
Speaker 1: I don't really know.
Speaker 2: But you know, when I graded Jamari as a as
Speaker 2: a prospect, you know, you look into his background a bit,
Speaker 2: and he was I don't know if it was the
Speaker 2: top rated guard, but he was a top five guard
Speaker 2: prospect going into college and then he played guard. He
Speaker 2: played tackle, and just like from a trades perspective, I
Speaker 2: think he translates best as a guard I think it's
Speaker 2: great to know that he can play tackle in a pinch.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of fans really overvalue like how
Speaker 2: he played in twenty twenty one, or excuse me, twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two played at at a solid level at left tackle,
Speaker 2: but a lot of people make him out to be like, oh,
Speaker 2: like he should start at right tackle, like unquestioned starter,
Speaker 2: and I'm not there. I still believe that Trey Pipkins
Speaker 2: is a pretty clearly better right tackle than Jamari would be.
Speaker 2: But that being said, they don't have that swing tackle
Speaker 2: option right now, and it's not like the Chargers are
Speaker 2: going to neglect that, So maybe he's your starting right guard.
Speaker 2: Maybe Jamari is essentially viewed as like he's just our
Speaker 2: swing everything, and if anything happens to the starter, to
Speaker 2: the starting five, Jamari's just gonna come in. He can
Speaker 2: play basically four of the five spots. I don't know
Speaker 2: if he could play center, but I know he can
Speaker 2: play guard. I know he can play tackle at least
Speaker 2: in a pinch, So I still believe that his best
Speaker 2: spot is is at guard. But like if push comes
Speaker 2: to shove and you have to put him back out
Speaker 2: at left tackle or right tackle then the Chargers can
Speaker 2: be comfortable with him knowing that he can at least
Speaker 2: give you you know, average too above average tackle play.
Speaker 3: How do you feel about McFadden moving to center, which
Speaker 3: he's obviously never played before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not opposed to that idea.
Speaker 2: I think his athletic traits translate to uh, you know,
Speaker 2: to that position, especially if the team wants to do
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, polling or outside zone work.
Speaker 2: I think his athletic traits fit that wonderfully. I would
Speaker 2: be a little hesitant to try him out at a
Speaker 2: new position in his second season. And it's a very
Speaker 2: similar conversation to you know, a lot of people wonder
Speaker 2: if Zion could play center. It's like, well, eventually, you
Speaker 2: do want these guys to find one spot where they
Speaker 2: feel most comfortable playing. And it's not just like you know,
Speaker 2: a cornerback can switch sides or you can play in
Speaker 2: the slot. Like it's a lot of the same movements.
Speaker 2: You don't have, you know, a strong plant leg or
Speaker 2: anything like that. As a corner you generally are doing
Speaker 2: the same kind of things. You might have to adjust
Speaker 2: some techniques in terms of zone coverages, but it's a
Speaker 2: lot of overlap. There's not a lot of overlap. If
Speaker 2: you're playing left tackle and right guard. It's different movements,
Speaker 2: different strategies, You're playing different kind of body types, like
Speaker 2: you have to relearn a ton of different mechanics. So
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be opposed to seeing what he can do
Speaker 2: at center. But I'm definitely not like heading into the
Speaker 2: season with like McFadden being centered too.
Speaker 1: I think that would be a mistake.
Speaker 2: But if center is his best position, then you know
Speaker 2: he can take some snaps and see how it goes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, just real.
Speaker 2: Quick looking at if they wanted to address guard in
Speaker 2: free agency. Obviously a lot of guys have have come
Speaker 2: off the board, but Andrews Pete is still a free agent.
Speaker 1: Hallo Potti.
Speaker 2: How I'm not even gonna try and say that. By
Speaker 2: Tide from the Lions, Excuse me, I'm sorry. If he
Speaker 2: signs with the Chargers, I'll get the name right. But
Speaker 2: he's a free agent if you want to go down
Speaker 2: that road. Tyree Phillips who played for the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 2: He's played some guard and some tackle. He's another one
Speaker 2: who the Chargers could look at. So not a ton
Speaker 2: of options out there. But you know there's Dalton Reisner
Speaker 2: still out there. I guess you should have led with
Speaker 2: that one. He's the best player on that list for sure.
Speaker 2: But yeah, they have some decent options out there if
Speaker 2: they want to explore a veteran guard.
Speaker 3: MH boy. Jim Harbaugh certainly loves his offensive line. The
Speaker 3: quote today about you know what position group depends on
Speaker 3: no one else to succeed, but everyone else depends on
Speaker 3: them to succeed. He's obviously talking about the offensive line.
Speaker 3: He loves his offensive line. It's going to be I
Speaker 3: don't know how good the Chargers will be or how
Speaker 3: great they'll be, but the offensive line is going to
Speaker 3: be good, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I forget the guy's name.
Speaker 2: He played offensive line for the forty nine ers and
Speaker 2: he does like a podcast now. I think we talked
Speaker 2: about this clip before. This is great podcasting. I shouldn't
Speaker 2: have known this, but just brought it up.
Speaker 1: Anyways.
Speaker 2: One of the former forty nine ers offensive linemen would
Speaker 2: say that Jim would go to the offensive line dinners
Speaker 2: and he was the only head coach of this guy
Speaker 2: played for that went to offensive line dinners. Because Jim
Speaker 2: just values the offensive line.
Speaker 3: That much.
Speaker 2: And that's not necessarily a surprise, right, Like he's talked
Speaker 2: about the offensive line and building through the trenches several times.
Speaker 2: But you know they're going to invest in the offensive line,
Speaker 2: and we can say that for sure. Maybe it's not
Speaker 2: the same kind of pathway as everybody is. You know,
Speaker 2: the harball pick right now is offensive tackle at number five.
Speaker 2: Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But whatever happens in
Speaker 2: this draft, whatever happens in free agency going forward, they
Speaker 2: are going to invest in the offensive line. He's gonna
Speaker 2: have it be an identity because I mean, look what
Speaker 2: he did at Michigan. They won the Joe Moore Award
Speaker 2: for like two out of the last three years. It
Speaker 2: was a ton of resources port into their same thing
Speaker 2: as the forty nine ers, same thing at Stanford.
Speaker 1: So he's he.
Speaker 2: Loves the offensive line because he knows how important it
Speaker 2: is to protect the quarterback and be able to run
Speaker 2: the football. All right, Tyler, I think the last thing
Speaker 2: here to mention from the press conference today is Jim's
Speaker 2: stance on the fifth overall pick.
Speaker 1: I had some.
Speaker 2: Very interesting comments there, a lot of interesting JJ McCarthy
Speaker 2: comments coming out of the ownership meetings. Today, we'll see
Speaker 2: exactly how that affects the charters. But you know, Jim
Speaker 2: Jim's comment that caught my attention was that essentially they
Speaker 2: view the fifth overall pick as the first overall pick,
Speaker 2: especially if quarterbacks go one through four, And he specifically
Speaker 2: mentioned that, like the scale of draft value would change
Speaker 2: because at five overall, if quarterbacks go one through four,
Speaker 2: he the Chargers or another team could have the pick
Speaker 2: of the best non quarterback in the draft. So I
Speaker 2: thought it was interesting that he highlighted the various options
Speaker 2: that the Chargers might have in terms of overall plan
Speaker 2: if you will at number five, instead of highlighting yeah,
Speaker 2: like offensive tackle guys is great, wide receiver class is great.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, we have a lot of options. If
Speaker 2: we want to move back, we can, If we want
Speaker 2: to stay, we can. Kind of echoes what Joe Ortiza
Speaker 2: said as well.
Speaker 3: It's the right approach they know, and he said they're
Speaker 3: going to get a great player, or at least they're
Speaker 3: going to get a great prospect at five. Regardless even
Speaker 3: if Marvin Harrison Junior goes fourth, they're still getting a
Speaker 3: great prospect at five. They can also trade back and
Speaker 3: get a great prospect. They could trade back a lot
Speaker 3: more and get a great prospect. Maybe not great anymore,
Speaker 3: but it is still a very good one. So they're
Speaker 3: confident in their options. You know, a lot of Chargers
Speaker 3: fans have mentioned this is the highest the Chargers are
Speaker 3: going to pick under Jim Harbaugh for the next five,
Speaker 3: ten years or whatever, and that's probably true. I hope
Speaker 3: it's true that this is the highest the Chargers are
Speaker 3: picking for the next decade or so. At the same time,
Speaker 3: it also means this is the most draft capital that
Speaker 3: they can acquire by trading back under Jim Harbaugh, getting
Speaker 3: going from five to eleven, you know, and getting let's
Speaker 3: say eleven and twenty three from the Vikings. That's the
Speaker 3: most the Chargers are probably going to have under Jim
Speaker 3: Harbaugh too. So everything is on the table, everything is enticing,
Speaker 3: and they're going to get a good player. And I
Speaker 3: hope that it's four quarterbacks in a row.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be here a lot of fun. I
Speaker 2: think the Chargers in a great spot either way. If
Speaker 2: quarterbacks go one through three and then the Cardinals sticking
Speaker 2: pick or maybe somebody else trades up for one of
Speaker 2: the wide receivers or whatever.
Speaker 1: The Chargers in a great spot.
Speaker 2: A lot of this draft is becoming like too chalky
Speaker 2: to me, and maybe that's just because you know, we've
Speaker 2: heard this same song and dance before regarding quarterback prospects,
Speaker 2: and you know, twenty twenty one was supposed to go
Speaker 2: one through four and then Mac Jones fell and Justin
Speaker 2: Fields fell. Obviously very different circumstances there, but it just
Speaker 2: feels like there's kind of a chaos bomb looming in
Speaker 2: the top three specifically. I mean, I'm curious to see
Speaker 2: kind of how that plays out. A lot of people
Speaker 2: think maybe the Broncos could trade, could be aggressive and
Speaker 2: trade up. The Patriots not sold on this quarterback class.
Speaker 2: So it just feels too chocky for me at one
Speaker 2: through three, which is probably a little bit of my anxiety, maybe,
Speaker 2: I guess. But we'll see what happens come drafting, But
Speaker 2: one through three I think it's gonna be a little
Speaker 2: bit more dangerous than it feels right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be the Patriots could go, yeah, I'll
Speaker 3: take Marvin Harrison Junior, and that would, you know, throw
Speaker 3: off every rest of the draft. You know, it's very
Speaker 3: possible that is potentially the best player in the class,
Speaker 3: so I would I would get why they would. The
Speaker 3: Vikings are also just sitting there with eleven and twenty three.
Speaker 3: They move up, they're going to move up into the
Speaker 3: top five. I think, who is it? So who in
Speaker 3: the top five is not taking a quarterback? Obviously the Chargers,
Speaker 3: not the Cardinals. But if there's someone in that top
Speaker 3: three that wants to trade back and take the eleven
Speaker 3: and twenty three and next year second or whatever it is,
Speaker 3: you know, whatever it is like that there is something.
Speaker 3: The Vikings are waiting to do, something they're assuming that
Speaker 3: they can get it. So who is it? Who is
Speaker 3: that team? I hope it's the Chargers, but you never know.
Speaker 3: There's a surprise every year and things will change. And
Speaker 3: right now, whatever we're saying, by the time we get
Speaker 3: to you know, a month from now when the draft hits,
Speaker 3: could be a total different quarterback that's being talked about.
Speaker 3: At two, I think one's pretty set in stone, but
Speaker 3: everything else two to three and then what happens at
Speaker 3: four all could be very different in a month, So
Speaker 3: we'll see. It's exciting though.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Eric Eager, formerly of PFF, currently of super Sports, planning
Speaker 2: this out that the week of the draft, Molik will
Speaker 2: was getting like top three consensus hype. Malik not on
Speaker 2: Lak excuse me, Will Levis last year, same kind of deal,
Speaker 2: top three consensus hype, betty markets all that, and then
Speaker 2: things changed. You know, Trey Lance was. I don't think
Speaker 2: he was one of the three most likely betting choices
Speaker 2: for the forty nine ers at number three until like
Speaker 2: the day before the draft. So there's a lot of
Speaker 2: people talking in certainties right now, and a lot can
Speaker 2: change in the next.
Speaker 1: Month as we kind of come down the home stretch here.
Speaker 3: Yep, it's exciting though. It gives us stuff to talk
Speaker 3: about and speculate about. And honestly, the last time the
Speaker 3: Chargers had the situation, and I think Tom Tolasco said
Speaker 3: as much, they felt like they had the number one
Speaker 3: overall pick in twenty sixteen because they knew that it
Speaker 3: was quarterback quarterback and so they had the third pick,
Speaker 3: and so whoever that was going to be was the
Speaker 3: best player they thought in the draft. And I remember
Speaker 3: everyone thinking, Okay, it's Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 1: N Stanley was the betting favorite that year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was not Joey Bosa, And I know it
Speaker 3: wasn't because I was at SeaWorld at the season ticket
Speaker 3: event at SeaWorld and everyone went, what whoa to that pick?
Speaker 3: I've got a video of it, so no one can say, oh,
Speaker 3: I knew it was Joey Bosa, like everyone thought it
Speaker 3: was somebody else. I didn't expect Joey Bosa at the time.
Speaker 3: So Chargers are also could be a surprise team. Everyone
Speaker 3: thinks it's one of two or three players, could be
Speaker 3: the fourth one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Man, Just the wheels are turning right, And I mean
Speaker 2: the coaches. The coaches come to this late obviously. I
Speaker 2: mean the Chargers just barely high their coaching staff, you know,
Speaker 2: two months ago. So now that the coaches are at
Speaker 2: the same spot as the scouts, as the front office folks,
Speaker 2: this is really when things start.
Speaker 1: Ticket, you know, pushed into motion.
Speaker 2: All the quarterbacks are doing their visits, all the other
Speaker 2: prospects are doing their visits.
Speaker 1: So it's certainly a lot.
Speaker 2: Of fun and a natural transition point to our draft
Speaker 2: non negotiables.
Speaker 1: Here. We've prepared a few of them.
Speaker 2: We'll see how much we can get to in the
Speaker 2: next you know, fifteen twenty minutes or so. But Tyler,
Speaker 2: if you had to pick one non negotiable for the
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four draft for the Chargers, what is your
Speaker 2: first choice there?
Speaker 3: The Chargers have to find their center of the future.
Speaker 3: And that doesn't mean that the center has to start
Speaker 3: this year, but it has to be their center of
Speaker 3: the future in the way that well like Tyler Linderbaum
Speaker 3: is for the Ravens. Granted that's a first round pick
Speaker 3: that Creed Humphrey is for the Chiefs. They need to
Speaker 3: find stability at this spot because right now, Justin Herbert
Speaker 3: will be on center number five, and next year if
Speaker 3: Bozeman walks in free agency, it'll be center number six.
Speaker 3: And you need stability there. And it can't be a
Speaker 3: stop gap thing. It can't be a one year sort
Speaker 3: of thing all the time. There needs to be stability
Speaker 3: there because I think that, you know, Justin Herbert needs
Speaker 3: that for protection, calls for stability, for confidence and for
Speaker 3: avoiding injuries. Corey Linsley goes down, things are a bit
Speaker 3: more chaotic. You know, Kellen Moore maybe wasn't able to
Speaker 3: orchestrate the best protection plans and Justin Herbert, you know,
Speaker 3: it gets hurt and takes a beating on the field
Speaker 3: because they couldn't figure that out. They need stability at
Speaker 3: the spot. So whatever the Chargers decide to do, we'll
Speaker 3: see the Ravens since two thousand and nine, nine of
Speaker 3: their centers, their starting centers that they've had before Tyler
Speaker 3: Linderbaum since two thousand and nine, are Day three picks
Speaker 3: or acquired with Day three picks or undrafted free agents.
Speaker 3: So I think I think the Chargers, and I think
Speaker 3: it makes sense even just looking at the board of
Speaker 3: players and where they are and the prospects in this class,
Speaker 3: I think the Chargers are going to look to Day
Speaker 3: three at any point to see if they can find
Speaker 3: their center of the future. I just think they have
Speaker 3: to find that next guy. For a very very long time,
Speaker 3: or at least for more than a year. It's so
Speaker 3: inconsistent right now with the Chargers. Even with Corey Linsley,
Speaker 3: as great as he was, there were some inconsistencies, and
Speaker 3: of course, like the health issues is not his fault
Speaker 3: by any means, but they got to find that guy.
Speaker 3: They absolutely have to find that guy if they want
Speaker 3: to be successful, go deep into the postseason, really bring
Speaker 3: this offense to the next level, will have a great
Speaker 3: run game. They got to find their center of the future.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean having a long term center just
Speaker 2: solves so many issues. And I think Will Clap in
Speaker 2: a vacuum as a backup was a better player than
Speaker 2: he was given credit for. It was just that the
Speaker 2: difference of communication, and you know, just the IQ multiplier
Speaker 2: that Corey Lindsley was just had ramifications across the whole line.
Speaker 2: And so when you lose that, like legitimate top notch center,
Speaker 2: it just it affects everybody. It doesn't just affect the
Speaker 2: left guard and the right guard. Affects the tackles, it
Speaker 2: affects the quarterback, It affects the running game, affects everything.
Speaker 2: And you look at kind of who Jim Harbaugh has
Speaker 2: has had, Like center has been a position that they've
Speaker 2: invested in across his tenure. They've recruited it really well.
Speaker 2: They've had some centers go on into the NFL. I
Speaker 2: forget his name, who's on the Seahawks right now, Helo
Speaker 2: with Timmy, Yeah, a lot with Timmy was there like
Speaker 2: top notch center. And so what's gonna be interesting to
Speaker 2: see is the kind of body type that they prefer
Speaker 2: if they prefer kind of a Bradley Boseman two point
Speaker 2: zero body type, or if they are, if they're okay
Speaker 2: with kind of an undersized center. But I completely agree
Speaker 2: because it's just the effects of having a quality long
Speaker 2: term center are so great in your favor. And then
Speaker 2: also I think this is the best center class we've
Speaker 2: seen in quite some time, from top to bottom. I
Speaker 2: think the whole guy can play all five spots. Thing
Speaker 2: when talking about an offensive line is a tad overrated.
Speaker 2: Like Graham Barton, a lot of people view him as
Speaker 2: a center, maybe in a pinch, but he's not a
Speaker 2: true center. He played center as a freshman, but he's
Speaker 2: played tackle. He's probably gonna settle into a guard. But
Speaker 2: if you want to count him, you can count him.
Speaker 2: But you have three potential top tier center prospects in
Speaker 2: Graham Barton and Jackson Powers Johnson as well as Zach Fraser.
Speaker 2: So if they want to be aggressive in the first
Speaker 2: round or early in the second round, they can do that.
Speaker 2: But then these this collection of like round three, round
Speaker 2: four center prospects, it just keeps going.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: We talked about Mason McCormick on our mock Draft show
Speaker 2: as somebody who could play center. Did the protections at guard,
Speaker 2: which is very, very unique. But you look at Ceda
Speaker 2: Van Prian, you look at Hunter nors At at Tanner
Speaker 2: BORDERLINI I mentioned Bill Limber earlier, who could play center
Speaker 2: guard for you. You know this group. You know Drake NuGen,
Speaker 2: who obviously the team is familiar with. You have a
Speaker 2: guy like the Toel Almeya from Utah who could play center,
Speaker 2: who was the Utah's emergency center. There's just so many
Speaker 2: different options, and so to me it feels very reminiscent
Speaker 2: of last year's tight end class, where it's like, I
Speaker 2: don't necessarily have like a I'm not super picky about
Speaker 2: the choice. I just want a choice because this center
Speaker 2: class is just so deep, so stacked with talent, and
Speaker 2: I'm very anxious to see them get you know, that
Speaker 2: center of the future knocked out of the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, and they got to find not that
Speaker 3: you can do this in year one, and you may
Speaker 3: might not even do it with this particular center prospect.
Speaker 3: But Herbert had outlets and comfort things and comfort players
Speaker 3: and plays on the field. That was Keenan Allen. Okay,
Speaker 3: if it's not Keenan Allen, who is It's probably Mike Williams. Okay,
Speaker 3: I it's not him. It's maybe Austin Eckler. It's not him.
Speaker 3: You have Corey Linsley taking care of everything. That's all changed,
Speaker 3: and so you got to find the next consistent thing
Speaker 3: that makes Herbert comfortable on the field. Could be a
Speaker 3: wide receiver at five, or tight end at five or whatever.
Speaker 3: Certainly could be Bozman, could be Quentin Johnston, I think
Speaker 3: is Josh Palmer. But you got to continue to establish
Speaker 3: that that comfort. I think Herbert plays so much better
Speaker 3: when he's comfortable, and that makes sense. Every quarterback plays
Speaker 3: better when they're comfortable. But I do think with Herbert,
Speaker 3: you got to find that guy. So I think center
Speaker 3: is a great foundational building piece moving forward for Herbert
Speaker 3: to play his best self.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just a natural transition, right. You have
Speaker 2: Bozman on the one year deal. Herbert can handle a
Speaker 2: lot of the protections, and so this center prospect and
Speaker 2: sit and learn for a year and then transition right
Speaker 2: into the starting role in year two. That was a
Speaker 2: great one. I think my first one here. I need
Speaker 2: to see the Chargers double dip at corner and they
Speaker 2: signed Christian Fulton this week, and I really like I
Speaker 2: think that's a good dart throw signing, but there's a
Speaker 2: lot of risk there in terms of his availability. He's
Speaker 2: never played a full season after his rookie season. You know,
Speaker 2: he's been up and down. From a consistency standpoint. The
Speaker 2: peaks are certainly peaks that you're you're very interested in
Speaker 2: and optimistic about. You know, twenty twenty one, he was
Speaker 2: the guy who kind of was transitioning towards being at
Speaker 2: potential top tier corner He was. The numbers of that
Speaker 2: season were fantastic for him. You have as Santa Samuon
Speaker 2: Junior on the roster, but he's a free agent after
Speaker 2: next season and I'm not super sold on his fit
Speaker 2: in this defense. And then you have just Here Taylor
Speaker 2: and Dean Leonard, who are great special teams players.
Speaker 1: I think Dean showed some flashes.
Speaker 2: I think just Here so showing some flashes, but they've
Speaker 2: never had the ability or opportunity rather to show really
Speaker 2: the kind of consistency that you are. So that's a
Speaker 2: lot of uncertainty at corner and cornerback is kind of
Speaker 2: transition away from being like a top premium position in
Speaker 2: the NFL based off like how they're paying it and
Speaker 2: things like that, but it still is a position where
Speaker 2: you have to have a pipeline of talent, and the
Speaker 2: Chargers do not have that right now. And so I
Speaker 2: look at what the Chiefs did a couple of drafts
Speaker 2: ago when they were able to draft Trea McDuffie and
Speaker 2: Joshua Williams. That's kind of like what I'm picturing. Maybe
Speaker 2: not in the first round the charge straight down, that's
Speaker 2: probably more of an option. But this is a great
Speaker 2: cornerback class. I have twelve of them inside my top
Speaker 2: sixty players so far. There's a lot of different flavors.
Speaker 2: Whether you want somebody who can do inside, outside, straight outside,
Speaker 2: play the slot. This is a draft class that can
Speaker 2: give you a lot of different profiles. And so the
Speaker 2: Chargers need a starting slot corner. They need a long
Speaker 2: term outside corner option, and I think you have to
Speaker 2: do that in the draft. They can go pay somebody
Speaker 2: else in free agency if they want, But similar to center,
Speaker 2: you've got to get some long term assets here into
Speaker 2: the pipeline because right now you don't really have any.
Speaker 2: So take advantage of a great cornerback class, take multiple bodies.
Speaker 2: You have two fourth round picks courtesy of the Keenan
Speaker 2: Allen trade. I think this is the right opportunity to
Speaker 2: double dip at cornerback and give Jesse Minter a long
Speaker 2: term option outside of the current players on the roster.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent agree here. This corner class is awesome,
Speaker 3: and I think that especially because this is a new regime,
Speaker 3: new defensive play color, defensive coordinator scheme, etc. You want
Speaker 3: to establish these guys early on, get them in year one,
Speaker 3: and you're going to spend the next few years with
Speaker 3: this group and everyone's going to understand what's going on
Speaker 3: in this defense. So go get those guys. This corner
Speaker 3: class is awesome. You can pick anything, any player you want,
Speaker 3: any style you need, similar to wide receiver. I feel
Speaker 3: good about it, and I'm looking through the list of
Speaker 3: names that I've watched. I've watched only fifteen so far,
Speaker 3: but I mean, you can get guys very late, like
Speaker 3: a Josh Wallace from Michigan, obviously, but there's this nice
Speaker 3: like round three, round four, maybe even into round five
Speaker 3: range of guys that are really good obviously, like Max
Speaker 3: Melton probably goes second round. But then you're talking Cam Hart,
Speaker 3: DJ James, Jerry and Jones. The slot corner from Florida State.
Speaker 3: Love him. There's so many good corners. I know you
Speaker 3: just watched Cam Hart. You are head over heels for
Speaker 3: that guy for sure, because he's awesome. Like, there's so
Speaker 3: many good corners. It really does feel like receiver. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm waiting to be really disappointed. And maybe I don't
Speaker 3: have a first round grade on everybody on fifteen players.
Speaker 3: I don't, but you're never really disappointed. These guys are
Speaker 3: all good. So I agree with you, go get one
Speaker 3: of these guys. Maybe it's round four, but double dip
Speaker 3: there for sure. Continue to get bodies, and I'll just
Speaker 3: continue with that because we're on the same page. I'm
Speaker 3: just a bit flipped because I say one of these
Speaker 3: fourth round picks needs to be a wide receiver. I
Speaker 3: think you have two of them. You know, maybe you
Speaker 3: can use Keenan Allen's pick, the pick that you got
Speaker 3: for him, to get a receiver. You're not getting Keenan
Speaker 3: out in the fourth round. I don't think you're getting
Speaker 3: a Pukuinakua player. The odds of that happening are very
Speaker 3: very small for the Chargers, but you can get a
Speaker 3: really good player. Do you want someone fast on the
Speaker 3: outside who can fly and get open. So you can
Speaker 3: get toaj Washington from USC You can get Anthony Gold
Speaker 3: from Oregon State. Really like Anthony Gold. I wish more
Speaker 3: people were talking about him because he played so much
Speaker 3: on the outside and won so much on the outside.
Speaker 3: He's not just your traditional like gadget speeds to your type.
Speaker 3: You can do a lot on the outside. And oh,
Speaker 3: by the way, he runs a four to three, Go
Speaker 3: get him. You want a slot player, you know, go
Speaker 3: ahead and get Malik Washington, who I still don't understand
Speaker 3: why he's projected to go as low as he is,
Speaker 3: but whatever, if he's there in the fourth round, go
Speaker 3: get him. Who else? I liked Anaya Smith from Texas
Speaker 3: A and M. You want a yak monster, go get him.
Speaker 3: You know, shall acrossor to the house, go for it.
Speaker 3: I like Utah's Devon Veile. I don't know if I'm
Speaker 3: saying his name right. I don't know if that's a
Speaker 3: fourth round selection. Probably again, like like yeah, like corner though,
Speaker 3: there's so many of these guys. Pick whoever you want.
Speaker 3: They're all fantastic, So whatever the Chargers need, you know,
Speaker 3: Darius Davis will have a role. He's obviously their core
Speaker 3: special teamer. He's going to be the returner, but this
Speaker 3: team is going to need to cycle through some receivers.
Speaker 3: Josh Palmer is in the final year of his deal,
Speaker 3: so we don't know what the plan is there. So
Speaker 3: who is that next guy? If Quinton Johnson doesn't work out?
Speaker 3: Do you have someone else in the pipeline? Like continue
Speaker 3: to add you take a receiver at five awesome, do
Speaker 3: it again on day three, probably around that fourth round range.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think Josh Palmer is kind of like the key
Speaker 2: thing here because Josh Palmer can play all three spots
Speaker 2: for your team, so it just gives the Chargers a
Speaker 2: lot of flexibility. I think that Quentin Johnson is best
Speaker 2: suited as a backside Z receiver. I think that is
Speaker 2: where his skill set can be maximized as somebody who
Speaker 2: can be that yards after the catch guy be able
Speaker 2: to have a little bit more space and flexibility.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens there.
Speaker 2: Obviously, his physical profile would theoretically translate to an X,
Speaker 2: but I think he's a Z. I think Josh Palmer
Speaker 2: can play anywhere, and so if you want, if you
Speaker 2: get Marvin Harrison Junior, he's your ex Palmer's your slot,
Speaker 2: Quentin Johnson is your Z, and then later on you
Speaker 2: can get somebody else who can fill in maybe a
Speaker 2: little bit of different roles as well. If you get
Speaker 2: Leak Neighbors, Neighbors is your slot, Palmer's your.
Speaker 1: Ex Quentin Johnson is your Z.
Speaker 2: So it just it gives the charges a lot of
Speaker 2: flexibility because Palmer can play anywhere and play anywhere really
Speaker 2: well in my opinion, So he's kind of the key
Speaker 2: thing for them because it just gives them that flexibility
Speaker 2: to attack the wide receiver position in any facet.
Speaker 1: But I I kind.
Speaker 2: Of would prefer that that corner gets attacked in the
Speaker 2: fourth round just because it is, you know, much easier
Speaker 2: to find those wide receivers late than it is the
Speaker 2: cornerback class. I know this is a great cornerback class,
Speaker 2: but like you mentioned, these wide receivers can you can
Speaker 2: pick them at any point in time. So I am
Speaker 2: curious to see how much value is placed on the
Speaker 2: wide receiver position. You know, Joe Hartiz and Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 2: both highlighted, Hey, we really like the depth of this
Speaker 2: wide receiver position. So what does that mean? Is that
Speaker 2: a second and a fourth round pick Is it a
Speaker 2: first and a fifth, Is it a second and a sixth?
Speaker 2: Is it a first and a six Like, I think
Speaker 2: there's a lot of different options here, and because Josh
Speaker 2: Palmer can play all those spots, it just gives them
Speaker 2: that added a flexibility going forward.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as Joe Hortiz said, even if they don't get
Speaker 3: their guy, because this draft class is so good at receiver,
Speaker 3: someone's getting cut. Someone on another team is getting cut
Speaker 3: at that player and obviously a veteran maybe you know them,
Speaker 3: have scottered them before, whatever, have some sort of history
Speaker 3: with them. So Chargers are I think adding two receivers,
Speaker 3: whether it is two in the draft, one of the draft,
Speaker 3: win free agency after a cut, et cetera. But I
Speaker 3: do really like that chunk of player at corners and
Speaker 3: wide receivers in the fourth round.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think as an adjacent point to that, to me,
Speaker 2: I think you For me, it's it's they need more
Speaker 2: explosive playmakers on offense. I mean, I like Josh Palmer,
Speaker 2: I like Winton Johnson, I like Us Edwards. I like
Speaker 2: the signings of Willdesley and and Hayden Hurst. There's not
Speaker 2: a lot of explosive plays there. I mean Justin Herbert
Speaker 2: can create explosive plays with his arm, but they do
Speaker 2: need an explosive running back.
Speaker 1: They need an explosive tight end.
Speaker 2: You know, they need to find probably two guys who
Speaker 2: can be you know, at that explosive element for this
Speaker 2: team doesn't necessarily mean like you have to get like
Speaker 2: a third.
Speaker 1: Down scap back.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean you have to get like an undersized
Speaker 2: tight end or something like that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you have to go get Jahem Bell.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you have to go get Blake Watson,
Speaker 2: although those players are are fun to watch.
Speaker 1: But I think.
Speaker 2: Highlighting explosive playmaking potential is the approach that I would
Speaker 2: like to see at wide receiver. That also does not
Speaker 2: mean I am anti Marvin Harrison Junior or Romadunza. I
Speaker 2: think those two players can also create explosive plays for you.
Speaker 2: So it's just about giving this team easier opportunities to
Speaker 2: create high end potential plays and not just have to
Speaker 2: march down the field constantly with the run game and
Speaker 2: short passing game and things like that. You need some
Speaker 2: curve balls here in the form of explosive playmaking potential,
Speaker 2: and I think that's probably my preference and how they
Speaker 2: would highlight the playmaking positions in the draft is focusing
Speaker 2: on that explosive playmaking potential.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree. You have two good receivers or
Speaker 3: at least guys you feel good about, and they at
Speaker 3: least said they felt good about those guys. So if
Speaker 3: you work in the play action game, go find those
Speaker 3: explosive players. I like the idea of what Kellen Moore
Speaker 3: was trying to do last year, but they could never
Speaker 3: figure out the protection to hold up in those instances.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty confident that gets figured out that Jim Harbaugh
Speaker 3: and Greg Roman. So now go continue to mine through
Speaker 3: that and go to those explosive plays because we saw
Speaker 3: it in camp and we saw it with you know,
Speaker 3: many plays throughout the season. It just the protection wouldn't
Speaker 3: hold up as much. So you can figure out the
Speaker 3: offensive line, continue to mind through those explosive playmakers. That's
Speaker 3: where Justin Herbert exceeds succeeds.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think if.
Speaker 2: If if you watch the Michigan offense, that's a lot
Speaker 2: of high low reads. You know, it's a lot of
Speaker 2: Roman Wilson over the top, and I forget there are
Speaker 2: other short receiver's name, but you know him underneath, or
Speaker 2: or Colson lovel and the tight end who I love,
Speaker 2: by the way, I very much would like to see
Speaker 2: him in the charters next year, or a J. Barner
Speaker 2: or whoever the tight end was. It's a lot of
Speaker 2: the let's go explosive first and then let's go short second.
Speaker 2: And so they do need some guys who can create
Speaker 2: explosive plays deep, although I think you have that in
Speaker 2: Palmer and Clinton Johnston. So it's it's that intermediate short
Speaker 2: area field be able to catch a five yard out route,
Speaker 2: five yard slant round and be able to make it
Speaker 2: a fifteen yard play or twenty yard player.
Speaker 1: Or something like that.
Speaker 2: So it's it's gonna be a lot of fun to
Speaker 2: see how this all comes together. Man, we're officially one
Speaker 2: month away from the draft as of today. Very important
Speaker 2: draft that really sets the tone for the Jim Harbad
Speaker 2: Joe or Tees regime. And we've highlighted this a ton today.
Speaker 2: A lot of options for the Chargers at any position
Speaker 2: of need.
Speaker 1: Draft strategy.
Speaker 2: It really is their oyster this year because it just
Speaker 2: it's the draft class fits all of their needs pretty perfectly.
Speaker 3: Honestly, it's it's kind of scary that it does. You know,
Speaker 3: I'm looking through and they've set themselves up a bit
Speaker 3: for this, but the free agency moves like they've they've
Speaker 3: made sure like, Okay, we're pretty solid new spots we
Speaker 3: don't have to reach, So go get one of these
Speaker 3: defensive tackles, corners, receivers, offensive tackles, you name it. I
Speaker 3: guess it gets. Continuing with that, then don't take a
Speaker 3: lion bracker in round two. You're going to have a
Speaker 3: few good options there, like Junior Colson. I think it
Speaker 3: is a genuinely good option. But this class man, detackle, receiver, corner,
Speaker 3: whatever you take receiver in the first round, there's an
Speaker 3: awesome corner sitting there in the second round that might
Speaker 3: have been a first round or last year just happens
Speaker 3: to be one of those classes. So I really really
Speaker 3: don't need them to take a linebacker in the second round.
Speaker 3: They'll take a good player if they do. But yeah,
Speaker 3: like one of these corners, receivers or detackles go that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think a linebacker and running back, tight end, as
Speaker 2: much as it pains me as a rock powers guy,
Speaker 2: I think those are positions you address on Day three.
Speaker 2: You know, we're the league has dubbed that defensive tackle
Speaker 2: as a premium position, so that's a thing now, and
Speaker 2: so premium positions. Round one, round two, round three, I
Speaker 2: think is the way you want to go with this,
Speaker 2: and I think it just kind of it sets up
Speaker 2: really nicely.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: They have a lot of great defensive tackle options, corner options.
Speaker 2: Running back on Day three is really deep, really deep too.
Speaker 2: So it's like it just kind of works. Like the
Speaker 2: way that I look at this draft class for the Chargers,
Speaker 2: it just like my brain, it just like works. It's
Speaker 2: like an easy tetris game, if you will, this year,
Speaker 2: as opposed to other pieces that you're like, we know
Speaker 2: about this guy or that guy, or that guy's a
Speaker 2: little bit complicated. This year just it just seems like
Speaker 2: it lines up really nicely for the Chargers all the
Speaker 2: way from one through seven.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a lot of fun. This is going to
Speaker 3: be I think the most fun I've had watching the
Speaker 3: draft in quite some time. Like this is this is fun.
Speaker 3: This is fun for the Charges. I'm excited for this organization.
Speaker 3: It's so new, we don't know what they're going to do.
Speaker 3: A blend of you know, different backgrounds with Jim, with
Speaker 3: Joe Forties, current existing Chargers organization as well. I don't
Speaker 3: know what's gonna happen. I really don't. Nobody does. Nobody
Speaker 3: has any idea of what's going to happen technically. Jim
Speaker 3: Harbaugh has even said that we don't know we're picking
Speaker 3: it five. Yeah, but I have a feeling that they
Speaker 3: might know.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they have a few choices that they prefer
Speaker 2: at this point, but to your point, they have nine picks.
Speaker 2: They could end up making more. I think they should
Speaker 2: make more, just giving their needs and things like that.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be a ton of fun down the
Speaker 2: stretch here, all right. That's gonna do it for us today.
Speaker 2: Chris and Matt will be back on the show on
Speaker 2: the channel excuse me later on this week.
Speaker 1: They'll have some thoughts there.
Speaker 2: They'll have you guys covered throughout the rest of the
Speaker 2: pre draft process as well, So make sure and show
Speaker 2: them some love as they continue to do great work.
Speaker 2: Eric Smith dropped a great article about the five takeaways
Speaker 2: from Jim Harma's press conference today, so we can make
Speaker 2: sure and check that out as well. Lots of great
Speaker 2: stuff happening here on the Charters, channels, feeds, websites. Hopefull
Speaker 2: you guys are consuming all of it because we both
Speaker 2: are as well. Make sure leave a like comment review.
Speaker 2: All that good stuff continues to help us for the show.
Speaker 2: All right, that's going to do it for us today.
Speaker 2: Thanks to Tyler for joining me as always, Thanks to
Speaker 2: Jim for a lot of the great quotes. Thanks for
Speaker 2: great Kam for producing the show. As always, we appreciate
Speaker 2: you guys, and we'll see you next time Up