Speaker 1: Hi.
Speaker 2: I'm Vanessa Bayor and this is my brother Jonah.
Speaker 3: We're two siblings who love to talk about our childhood
Speaker 3: nostalgia and how it shaped this into the people we
Speaker 3: are today.
Speaker 2: Who couldn't rush more to talk to today's guests?
Speaker 1: Welcome to how did we get weird?
Speaker 2: So Jonah, we're so excited about our guest today.
Speaker 4: You know, I did a movie with him years ago
Speaker 4: and I have a really funny story about it.
Speaker 2: Do you want to hear it? Jonah?
Speaker 1: Absolutely?
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 4: When we were filming this movie, it was like in
Speaker 4: Rhode Island, I think. Anyway, we went to dinner one
Speaker 4: night with one of my closest friends, Aril, and it
Speaker 4: was our guest today and Ril, I don't know why
Speaker 4: I'm acting like it's a mystery who it is.
Speaker 2: I know it says in the episode, said what.
Speaker 1: The name of the movie is either, so that might
Speaker 1: help too.
Speaker 2: Okay, The movie was called The Polke.
Speaker 4: We were getting dinner one night and my friend Arielle
Speaker 4: and I and he started asking her what she does,
Speaker 4: like what her job is, and she's a profess. She
Speaker 4: was a professor at Harvard and she did all this
Speaker 4: research and stuff, and he was asking her about all
Speaker 4: her research and stuff, and as she was explaining what
Speaker 4: she does, I realized that I didn't really know.
Speaker 1: What she did.
Speaker 4: There were like so many cool details about her job
Speaker 4: that I had no idea about. And it's funny because again,
Speaker 4: this is Jonah, you know Ariel. I mean, she's one
Speaker 4: of my closest friends in the world, and yet it
Speaker 4: took having our guests today at dinner with us to
Speaker 4: really find out what she was doing, because he's so
Speaker 4: thoughtful and such a good listener, and I'm always just like,
Speaker 4: let's focus on me.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, she teaches business too, I think, which can be
Speaker 3: that can be.
Speaker 4: Yeah, crossover between business and medicine and science, because she's
Speaker 4: one of the smartest people in the world.
Speaker 3: Not to brag Jonah, Yeah, yeah, well yeah, do you
Speaker 3: want to introduce today's guest? Maybe see if if he
Speaker 3: remembers this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's introduce him our guest today. Is an actor
Speaker 4: and musician who made his film debut in Wes Anderson's
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety eight film Rushmore, Did You Get That's What?
Speaker 4: And has appeared in other films and TV shows You
Speaker 4: Love such as The Dark Deeling Limited, which he co wrote.
Speaker 4: The aforementioned The Poke King with Moi and more recently
Speaker 4: Asteroid City, as well as a million other things like
Speaker 4: I don't know, a little show called I Love That.
Speaker 2: For you, Please welcome our friend Jason Schwartzman.
Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, How are you good? How are you doing?
Speaker 1: Thank you for having me, Thank you for being here.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a fan and I'm excited to be here.
Speaker 1: And yes, and I'm so excited. I can't believe you
Speaker 1: do it live. I can't believe you do it all
Speaker 1: in real time, like that your introduction where you say
Speaker 1: we're brother, We're like you do all of the 'sh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: fresh every time, which I think is nice. It's fresh.
Speaker 1: So it's all one real time. It's not just like
Speaker 1: a three tapes right.
Speaker 2: Right, right, right right.
Speaker 3: No, the only thing pre taped is the theme song,
Speaker 3: which no big deal. I co wrote and played guitar on.
Speaker 1: So cool. Yeah, yeah great, So it is a big deal.
Speaker 1: It is a big deal. Jason.
Speaker 4: Do you remember that dinner that we had different Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: of course, yes. More than anything, I just remember that
Speaker 4: we were sitting next to each other. She was across
Speaker 4: from me. There were three of us, so there was
Speaker 4: an empty chair next to her maybe.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: And then it was at a restaurant that was like
Speaker 1: north side I guess of the street, and we were
Speaker 1: in a back corner.
Speaker 2: Wow, you're remembering a lot of the location details.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. It was obviously nighttime. It was dark,
Speaker 1: and there was like a candle. It was really nice.
Speaker 2: It was really were we outside Maybe we were outside, right.
Speaker 1: We were. I don't think that we were okay, but
Speaker 1: we we had we had other meals when we were outside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: I mean again, it's just my memory against we don't
Speaker 1: I don't know. I could be No, I believe you.
Speaker 1: I think you.
Speaker 2: It feels like you have more of a can visualize it.
Speaker 1: I just call that. Yeah, I just I think that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were inside and it was it was great, and
Speaker 1: I your yeah, your friend. I was. I just kept thinking, Wow.
Speaker 1: But it says so much about you that your friends
Speaker 1: are so nice. Oh that's and that you've known them
Speaker 1: for so long and and and and care about them.
Speaker 1: And I think it's totally great not to know about
Speaker 1: your everything about your friend's lives, because then there's more
Speaker 1: to learn. I suppose.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a really nice way of framing it.
Speaker 1: This is Ari L.
Speaker 4: Stern, one of my oldest friends, and I could Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean I knew she did research and stuff, and
Speaker 4: I knew she worked in business, and I don't think
Speaker 4: I knew quite the level of the like science that
Speaker 4: was involved in what she was researching and stuff. And
Speaker 4: you were asking about that, and then by the end
Speaker 4: of the conversation, I was like, WHOA.
Speaker 1: Have you taken that with you now to the into
Speaker 1: your relationship with her?
Speaker 2: Now now I understand a little bit.
Speaker 4: But even though she's so smart, now I I but
Speaker 4: I understand a little bit more, you know, the the trials, Yeah,
Speaker 4: like the different trials and the way that she does
Speaker 4: yes research that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I I feel like I I'm not showing it by
Speaker 4: how I'm verbalizing this, but I do feel like I
Speaker 4: understand what she does a little bit more.
Speaker 1: That's got That's great.
Speaker 3: Jason, you uh, you know, you've been in the biz
Speaker 3: for a while, like music, entertainment, film. Do you find
Speaker 3: it interesting talking to people from other industries like that?
Speaker 3: Is that interesting to you? I guess it made that's
Speaker 3: a weird question because it probably because you've been part
Speaker 3: of this one world for so long.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean I don't really even I don't.
Speaker 1: It's something I've never really even thought about. I just yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean really I and this is like a new
Speaker 1: but it's just like it's always exciting to talk to
Speaker 1: anyone who loves something or is like really you know,
Speaker 1: really has like a enthusiasm for something. And I think
Speaker 1: that more than anything, like, I find that not like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I'm studying or like judging or observing
Speaker 1: like how much they love something. I am listening to
Speaker 1: what they're saying, but I it's it's it's intoxicating to
Speaker 1: have a conversation with anyone who had just spent a
Speaker 1: lot of time doing something that you you know that
Speaker 1: you have no concept of what that's like, and then
Speaker 1: finding I suppose maybe just like the similarities and because
Speaker 1: there are so many if you to be passionate about anything,
Speaker 1: is well, I don't know anything about that that I
Speaker 1: don't know about.
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, I mean I feel I find that
Speaker 4: you have such an interest in other people. And I
Speaker 4: will say, when you did, you know, you did two
Speaker 4: episodes of my show, which was so much fun, and.
Speaker 1: It was so much fun. You were so I was
Speaker 1: so scared of the one day when I had to
Speaker 1: propose to that girl, I was really scared about that.
Speaker 1: I was really scared about it. I proposed to her
Speaker 1: and I met her that morning. I met her, I
Speaker 1: know before.
Speaker 4: The other thing that was so interesting about that woman
Speaker 4: was that she was like she we she was so nice.
Speaker 4: She was playing your girlfriend. But she also said most
Speaker 4: days she does craft services.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that? Yeah, she was like usually lions
Speaker 1: I think, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And she was like I normally am in charge
Speaker 4: of craft services.
Speaker 1: And it was like what, Yeah.
Speaker 4: It was so crazy because the point is I just
Speaker 4: was so impressed that she was able to act and
Speaker 4: also run a full you know, I know, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, I don't know if it was the other way around.
Speaker 1: Like I wonder if I was if if I went
Speaker 1: and just did craft service on a film. I wonder
Speaker 1: if it would if it would if it if it
Speaker 1: would be like, really, you also do something else besides this,
Speaker 1: because you're so good at you're yeah, actually a good
Speaker 1: craft ser Like I wonder if I if it goes
Speaker 1: both ways like that that range.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, it's not like you just
Speaker 2: put out a table.
Speaker 4: It sounds like it's just a table of snacks, but
Speaker 4: you first of all, you have to replenish it. Also
Speaker 4: you're making like there's like creations in there, and asal creations.
Speaker 4: I mean there's apples with peanut butter, apple sizes with
Speaker 4: peanut butter, and what's that that's kind of like a
Speaker 4: famous one that people bring out.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they'll bring out a soup.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not just cold snacks, I guess is
Speaker 4: what people need to know.
Speaker 1: No, I think that, and you know, I think that
Speaker 1: it's important too to know that. That's the great thing
Speaker 1: about first of all that I love about a set
Speaker 1: is how many different kind of units there are, diferent
Speaker 1: occupations that are all ideally kind of working to make
Speaker 1: one thing, you know, and how everyone's kind of helping
Speaker 1: each other. And I think what you're saying is absolutely
Speaker 1: right and and and not to like get too into it,
Speaker 1: but like I find it really interesting the craft service
Speaker 1: because not they have to also just the hours are
Speaker 1: different because typically like they are.
Speaker 2: Supporing.
Speaker 1: Because it's like I'm finally able to talk about them,
Speaker 1: finally someone who gets it, I know. But because I
Speaker 1: talked to my kids about craft service, I have no
Speaker 1: idea they think it's about arts, but that they're at
Speaker 1: like the hours are you have to be there, you
Speaker 1: have to be there early, and setting up when people
Speaker 1: get to work if they haven't that chance to eat
Speaker 1: or give themselves. And then so you're dealing with people,
Speaker 1: and then and then afterwards you've got to pack it
Speaker 1: all up to maybe move to a different location and
Speaker 1: then go shopping.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to go shopping, so much shopping, you know,
Speaker 4: so much of it.
Speaker 1: And then also I think about having to watch and
Speaker 1: see what people are gravitating towards and then what you're
Speaker 1: gonna go, Okay, we're gonna need more rice cakes tomorrow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did not plan for this group of people to
Speaker 1: like rice cakes so much, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like it must be different, like when you start a
Speaker 1: new project, observing the eating and feeding habits of the
Speaker 1: different people and and kind of going like, I need
Speaker 1: to buy more of that. And then I also think
Speaker 1: like and then some people they have specific stuff that
Speaker 1: they like and you're and I would imagine the craft
Speaker 1: service is in charge of remembering that, which I think
Speaker 1: is really hard, like oh no, no, they don't like that,
Speaker 1: they like this, or just beginning as the thing goes
Speaker 1: on to you know. And also I think that you know,
Speaker 1: in the beginning, it's all you're everyone's meeting each other
Speaker 1: and being so helpful in it, like you know, at
Speaker 1: a certain point, like imagine like you are responsible for
Speaker 1: people getting like low blood sugar maybe or hungry. You know,
Speaker 1: I've seen people get you know, get get a sandwich,
Speaker 1: and it's no one's fault, but it's like it's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's like you really got to be prepared. And
Speaker 1: and I really like, I just think it's great. And
Speaker 1: I also love on some I love on every movie,
Speaker 1: you know. I love the things that people accumulate over
Speaker 1: the course of their careers that they have on their
Speaker 1: carts and trucks, and the things that they that they
Speaker 1: to make it feel like, to personalize it and to
Speaker 1: make it feel like this is my sound cart and
Speaker 1: it's got lit Christmas lights and maybe like a photo
Speaker 1: from another movie of them with like a you know,
Speaker 1: a fake squirrel, or or just little things like yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like a candle from their child
Speaker 1: over there. Just like the things that you bring along
Speaker 1: with you to make your your life, which is often
Speaker 1: you know, the hours, can you know, take you away
Speaker 1: from the things. Yeah, just the things that you to
Speaker 1: keep consistent through your life, that you customize, that you
Speaker 1: use to customize your space.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I find that definitely true with like people and
Speaker 1: like a in the craft service, Like just how much
Speaker 1: there is a sense of pride in making keeping people
Speaker 1: fed and pictures up from the other movies and right
Speaker 1: signed things like thanks for thanks for all the chips,
Speaker 1: you know, and like just like having pride in your
Speaker 1: history and what you've done. I just think it's really
Speaker 1: uh cool. And we did talk about that with me
Speaker 1: and that girl talked about that. That's I think that's
Speaker 1: what we were talking about between takes. Yeah. Yeah, although
Speaker 1: I think she was more new to the biz. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe that might be right.
Speaker 4: But you know, everything you're saying really kind of brings
Speaker 4: up what I was going to say about you, which
Speaker 4: is that I think that people couldn't believe sort of
Speaker 4: how kind you were. You were talking to everybody, not
Speaker 4: by the way. I knew that you were like this
Speaker 4: from working with you before. I wasn't like, Wow, he's
Speaker 4: having a good day or something. But I felt like
Speaker 4: everyone was like, oh my god, because you were like talking.
Speaker 4: You were so interested, genuinely interested in everybody in every
Speaker 4: different job that was going on on the on the
Speaker 4: day that we were filming from all the different you know, departments,
Speaker 4: like you're saying and talking to everyone, and everyone was like,
Speaker 4: I think because you like have done so much, you know,
Speaker 4: you're you're because you're a big star, Jason. I think
Speaker 4: people were like, oh, he's going to be like, get
Speaker 4: me a sandwich and I'll do my lines and get
Speaker 4: out of here or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And then when you were so nice to everybody and
Speaker 4: so genuinely interested in everybody, like people kept coming up
Speaker 4: to me and I was like, I, yeah, he's great, Like.
Speaker 1: It's so funny. They were saying the same thing about you,
Speaker 1: Like people were coming up saying like Vanessa and about Jack,
Speaker 1: who was also in the film, was like how great
Speaker 1: you guys were, how funny and how sweet and how kind,
Speaker 1: Like I was hearing the same thing about you. Just
Speaker 1: if that means anything like it and I and I
Speaker 1: think of you as being someone who really is like
Speaker 1: interested in other people and and really listening and picking
Speaker 1: up on things. So I don't know, I really I
Speaker 1: think it more about you than anything.
Speaker 4: Well, that's very nice. But they I appreciate that. But
Speaker 4: but you were like, just come, I don't know that
Speaker 4: it was fun. It was so fun.
Speaker 1: I always thought, so, yeah, yeah, it was great.
Speaker 3: That was great, incredible, Yes, fun, Jason. I want to
Speaker 3: kind of bring things way back for a minute.
Speaker 2: Let's bring things back, Jonah.
Speaker 3: Okay, you were born, yeah, in Los Angeles, and you know,
Speaker 3: me and Vannessa were saying before, we're friends with your
Speaker 3: brother Robert. What was the dynamic like with you two
Speaker 3: kids growing up in LA in the eighties, What was
Speaker 3: that like?
Speaker 1: Well, there's so my father was married once before, and
Speaker 1: my mother was married once before, and my father had
Speaker 1: two children from his previous marriage and my mother had one.
Speaker 1: And so really they were five of us. The John,
Speaker 1: my eldest brother, and my sister Stephanie were just enough
Speaker 1: younger that by the time we were born, they were
Speaker 1: sort of on their way to going to they were
Speaker 1: in the later stages of high school and then to college,
Speaker 1: and you know, so they weren't in the house, you know,
Speaker 1: day to day, right, And so it was really me
Speaker 1: and my brother Matthew and Robert, and so I would
Speaker 1: say that and that's a so Matthews five years older,
Speaker 1: and then Robert and I are two and a half,
Speaker 1: and so I think that, you know, I was like
Speaker 1: the middle. I was kind of the middle. Yeah, brother,
Speaker 1: if that, if that? And yeah, I mean it was
Speaker 1: a great My sister was the cool is the cool
Speaker 1: is the coolest to this to this day, the coolest.
Speaker 1: I can't even believe I'm really related to this personal
Speaker 1: Sometimes I just go, like I wish that I could
Speaker 1: when I meet someone who's like really great, I go,
Speaker 1: I wish I could just like call my sister and
Speaker 1: be like, can you come over right now just so
Speaker 1: this person can meet you and see how great you are.
Speaker 1: And then like, yeah, I just like, she's the first
Speaker 1: person I think of as being like she was like
Speaker 1: shave her head, you know, pink hair, shaved her head,
Speaker 1: Like she was just cool. Yeah, she's great. She's the best.
Speaker 1: She's the best. She makes me so happy to this
Speaker 1: so nice. What does she do? Many many things? And
Speaker 1: she was just working mountain this beautiful ceramics. Wow. But
Speaker 1: talk about doing different jobs. Growing up, she did many
Speaker 1: different jobs in the film industry like casting and production design.
Speaker 1: And she has a real like she really learned a
Speaker 1: lot of different traits in the film industry, and I
Speaker 1: always admired, like I was remembered that as a kid
Speaker 1: like that, you can you know just how much she's
Speaker 1: learning about everything, Yeah, and retaining about it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: she's the cool and yeah, just nor her sculpting and
Speaker 1: it's beautiful, amazing, that's so great. And my brother John's
Speaker 1: a cinematographer and Matthew's a writer, and I'm yeah here
Speaker 1: and then my little brother is just this mysterious, incredible man.
Speaker 3: Did you two play? Me and Vanessa had kind of
Speaker 3: a childhood band growing up. Did you and Robert write
Speaker 3: any songs about your family or anything growing up like
Speaker 3: we did or not so much?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I uh, And I feel like
Speaker 1: anything that I didn't do I feel bad about obviously,
Speaker 1: like it's not yeah, I probably should have, you know,
Speaker 1: but and you know, and I and I if he's
Speaker 1: ever listening, I can't say it to his face, but
Speaker 1: I'm proud of him, and I'm very sorry that I didn't, like,
Speaker 1: maybe do a band with him and hang out more.
Speaker 1: But we were no best you know, he's like my
Speaker 1: best little buddy. I think that he growing up was
Speaker 1: very quiet and I was much more extroverted. And I
Speaker 1: think that I kind of you know, as you see
Speaker 1: sometimes you see siblings one it's just like really much
Speaker 1: more like boisterous, and so I think a lot of
Speaker 1: times and I just like, I don't know, I just
Speaker 1: think I knew a lot of words. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: watched a lot of movie Like I was just like
Speaker 1: and he was really quiet. Yeah, you know. And now
Speaker 1: it's so funny because he's a you know, he has
Speaker 1: a great he has a company Utopias, and he makes
Speaker 1: movies and he's also the lead singer of a band.
Speaker 1: And like I see him on the stage like just
Speaker 1: at the front of the stage like all all right, Alice,
Speaker 1: how's everyone feeling out there? Like, and I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I can't believe that's my little brother, Like who was
Speaker 1: so quiet? Because I could never do that. I would
Speaker 1: never be able to do that. I think you could
Speaker 1: not true, not in a way that would feel like
Speaker 1: I mean maybe if I got used to it, but
Speaker 1: just the idea of just like I remember one time
Speaker 1: he had his foot up like on the vocal monitor
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, like that's amazing, Like I
Speaker 1: would never do that. So much confidence, Yes, and and
Speaker 1: but he's so sweet and it's like, so anyone who's
Speaker 1: ever met my brother, he's just he really is so sweet. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's like he's just you know, it's it's so
Speaker 1: it's just I don't know, I'm just it makes me glad.
Speaker 1: I'm just so happy and proud of him. And but yeah,
Speaker 1: he was really quiet. And I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: I think my brother Matthew would say, and I know
Speaker 1: this because he did say it recently at Robert's birthday party,
Speaker 1: that he said, when he found out he was being
Speaker 1: a little brother who was gonna be me, he was
Speaker 1: really excited and then when he met me and everything,
Speaker 1: it was like I wasn't what he was like expecting.
Speaker 1: And then Robert came along and that's what he was
Speaker 1: like talking about, like uh and and so he's like
Speaker 1: he finally got like the little brother that he was
Speaker 1: like or like hoping for and uh and uh and
Speaker 1: they are like a real like team they had all
Speaker 1: the time. And I think that I was much I
Speaker 1: was a bit more like uh yeah, just I don't
Speaker 1: know if I don't they have probably many more memories
Speaker 1: of together.
Speaker 4: What do you think was what do you think what
Speaker 4: you were lacking that Robert had or what qualities about you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you think you didn't quite make the grade?
Speaker 1: There? Well, when he said it, everyone laughed. It was
Speaker 1: a funny. It was like a thing at the you know,
Speaker 1: and I was like and then I was thinking, but
Speaker 1: like I really like it was like right, it was
Speaker 1: at his birthday this year recently. It's like when Robert
Speaker 1: was you know, and and I was like everyone was laughing,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that feels right too, Like I
Speaker 1: guess I feel like I've known that. I feel like
Speaker 1: I've known that on some level that I wasn't the
Speaker 1: little brother that you wanted me to be and that
Speaker 1: Robert was. But I'm thinking about it now as I'm
Speaker 1: like getting solid, like as I'm like making a plate
Speaker 1: of dinner, I'm like, WHOA was I what? What? What?
Speaker 1: Like I was asking myself the very question I think
Speaker 1: that I wasn't like maybe like I think I've just
Speaker 1: I'm more of like a I just I'm just like,
Speaker 1: don't touch me. Maybe more like maybe you know, more
Speaker 1: like more like they were like wrestling and just getting shut.
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, okay, like I want to
Speaker 1: watch this. I want to watch this movie over. You're
Speaker 1: being too loud.
Speaker 4: He could have been just making a really funny joke though, too,
Speaker 4: Like that's a great it was a great joke.
Speaker 1: So it's a funny joke. Yeah, And I think it
Speaker 1: was one of those things that was a joke and
Speaker 1: it was not It was absolutely true and it was true.
Speaker 1: But it was so sweet. And what makes me happy
Speaker 1: is he got the little brother he wanted. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what makes me have My brother got what he wanted.
Speaker 1: They all got what they wanted. Everyone got Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they all get and but to this day that's our
Speaker 1: like our sort of thing. It's like they text all
Speaker 1: the time and I'm on the text and then like
Speaker 1: I'd chime in, like hah and they go like, oh good,
Speaker 1: chime in after four days of this text medicine, Like
Speaker 1: I'm like what I'm supposed to?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you do you have Maybe your sister is you
Speaker 4: were that to your sister maybe because you know you
Speaker 4: love Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was, but she was older enough. I was just
Speaker 1: kind of you know, I was happy. I was I
Speaker 1: had a great great yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now Johanah, do you feel like you got what you.
Speaker 1: Were looking for?
Speaker 2: You didn't really get an opportunity to have another option.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good question.
Speaker 3: I never really thought about it either, by the way.
Speaker 3: Yeah wow, I mean my day job is as a therapist,
Speaker 3: and I wasn't expecting that. The podcast is usually uh yeah,
Speaker 3: very different than that. But we're getting pretty into the
Speaker 3: psychological subconsciousness.
Speaker 2: I really think about this.
Speaker 1: Well, good welcome. Now there's no easy way out here
Speaker 1: with me. That's right, you want to do this, let's
Speaker 1: do this. I think so.
Speaker 3: But I do think if there was more kids, maybe
Speaker 3: it would change the dynamic how we relate to each other.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, Now do.
Speaker 4: You remember mom and Dad threatened to like adopt a
Speaker 4: kid once when we were.
Speaker 1: A little interesting.
Speaker 4: Vaguely they were threaten not threatening, but they threatening is
Speaker 4: the wrong word. But there was some news story on
Speaker 4: about these kids that needed to be adopted. I can't
Speaker 4: remember exactly, and they were like talking about it and
Speaker 4: seriously considering it, and I remember being and it was
Speaker 4: just one night.
Speaker 3: I think you felt threat and then you're projecting it
Speaker 3: onto this.
Speaker 2: I was like, what the hell?
Speaker 4: Like I was truly like, I was like nope, Like
Speaker 4: I remember being so upset about it, and then I
Speaker 4: don't know whatever happened. I don't think that I'm the
Speaker 4: reason they didn't do it, because I think they were
Speaker 4: like she'lking over it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't remember that really now. But why
Speaker 1: why how did it come up? I want? Well, in
Speaker 1: what content? Something was on the news?
Speaker 4: It was like, I don't know if these kids were
Speaker 4: from a different country or if it was something it
Speaker 4: was news related.
Speaker 3: Our neighbors down the street they they took someone in
Speaker 3: from like eastern Europe. Yeah, and he lived there and
Speaker 3: he played guitar. He was actually a really cool guy
Speaker 3: who's built electric guitars. And he was a teenager. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he was a couple of years older than us. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he was somewhere from eastern Europe and lived with
Speaker 3: them for like a year or two.
Speaker 1: Wow, that was our next door neighbors.
Speaker 3: That was Chad Chad's Oh, Chad had this this guy.
Speaker 3: His name was Tomao. They he called himself tom because
Speaker 3: kids at school would make fun of him, called Tomato.
Speaker 1: What. Yeah, I know, he was really a really cool
Speaker 1: guy actually, but like a teenage Lucier is Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: what were you like as a kid, I just built guitars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could give me like pretty like, yeah, you
Speaker 3: could give me like a year and all the equipment,
Speaker 3: and I probably couldn't build a guitar.
Speaker 1: Yes you could. I don't know. Maybe he definitely could.
Speaker 4: I have a question that's kind of out of left
Speaker 4: field that I was thinking about when you were talking
Speaker 4: about Robert.
Speaker 2: Robert was in The Princess Diaries.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, was that?
Speaker 2: What did you go to the premiere?
Speaker 4: And were you so proud of like because it sounds
Speaker 4: like he was so quiet before then sort of yes.
Speaker 1: So I did.
Speaker 2: That must have been such a moment.
Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, yeah, it was. It was funny. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was great, I mean funny, like I was. Yes,
Speaker 1: I do remember being there, Yes, I remember, And I
Speaker 1: visited the set too, you did, Yes, I visited the
Speaker 1: set one day. I met I saw Heather Masurado and
Speaker 1: Hathway and the whole thing. I think I was there
Speaker 1: for like this like bleachers there like a same you
Speaker 1: know the scene where they're like on bleachers like playing
Speaker 1: basketball and something and they're like walking up and down
Speaker 1: bleachers kind of like right, Yeah I was, but yeah,
Speaker 1: that was I was so proud of him. I bet
Speaker 1: so proud. I mean, like I truly it's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm proud of I mean, for anyone to
Speaker 1: put themselves out there, you know, in any way, it's
Speaker 1: such a you know, and I was really proud of me.
Speaker 1: I also just found it to be so bizarre because
Speaker 1: it was like I didn't know that he was interested
Speaker 1: in that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because had you already done Rushmore's had you Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had just done it basically yeah. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so I mean I was sort of in a similar boat.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was amazing and he was like I
Speaker 1: also thought it was cool because I think he and
Speaker 1: his band wasn't it too, Like he had really he
Speaker 1: was already kind of like branding. Yeah, he was already
Speaker 1: like yeah, you can use my band too. Like it
Speaker 1: was like yeah, I love him. Wow. Yeah. And at
Speaker 1: the end, like you know, at the end, like he
Speaker 1: has like a really romantic thing and with all the
Speaker 1: lights And I was there when I shot that. I
Speaker 1: remember going there for that and it was like a
Speaker 1: beautiful night. I think it was like near usc Okay
Speaker 1: and not that. But I'm so proud of him. And
Speaker 1: you know, he's handsome too. He's a handsome guy and
Speaker 1: he's just big. He's also he's really touchy feely. He
Speaker 1: really likes to touch you and pinch, grab you and
Speaker 1: squeeze your shoulders and he'll say you're good, you're good,
Speaker 1: and squeeze you. And I said, yes, I'm good.
Speaker 4: Fine, I'm not the brother you want to do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, come on, come on, come on please, No, that's good.
Speaker 1: But actually I know this one guy because that's his
Speaker 1: that's his effect. She's very affectionate and you know, and
Speaker 1: he comes over and squeezing you good, and it's constantly
Speaker 1: doing that. And I actually was working on something and
Speaker 1: Robert and his wife Zoe Grossman, who's an incredible photographer
Speaker 1: and coolest, funniest preser who went to elementary school with
Speaker 1: Robert too, oh wow, and they have children and anyway,
Speaker 1: but she came to visit, both of them came to
Speaker 1: visit this where I was working, and she was talking
Speaker 1: to the on set photographer and then later he comes
Speaker 1: up to me, the onset photographers, your brother's I don't know,
Speaker 1: he's a little uh what was it like, getting a
Speaker 1: little heat, you gotta get cool it down, gets a
Speaker 1: little get a little heated. I was like, what are
Speaker 1: you talking about? He's like I was talking to his wife.
Speaker 1: We're talking about lenses and cameras, and your brother keeps
Speaker 1: coming up and putting his hands on my shoulders, saying
Speaker 1: like you're good, are we good? Everything good? They kept
Speaker 1: hitting me, and I was like, Jesus, this guy's really possessive.
Speaker 1: He's like you let him. You know, all we were
Speaker 1: doing was talking about lenses. I was like, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that really isn't real. That's not a threatening that's his
Speaker 1: that's his loving, that's love for him. Yeah he was,
Speaker 1: but he but he took it as like, you know
Speaker 1: when people have a kind of thing like everything good,
Speaker 1: we're good here, Yeah we're good like that? That that's
Speaker 1: that is the same tone. And I could totally say
Speaker 1: I had never thought about it until he had said that.
Speaker 1: But it's a various it's like everything good, we're good, yeah,
Speaker 1: okay good, and it's like yeah, yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: what you call that tone, but yeah, that reminds me
Speaker 1: of this. My little cousin when she was little, she
Speaker 1: had this thing. I was walked. She threw picked up
Speaker 1: a rock and threw it through a bunch of like
Speaker 1: a handful of like gravel at a car and her
Speaker 1: mom said no, no, no, do not. You cannot do that.
Speaker 1: And she goes, oh, I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, and
Speaker 1: I was like, she's sarcastic, and I said, is she
Speaker 1: messing around? She goes no, that's the weirdest thing is
Speaker 1: that the way she says sorry sounds like she is
Speaker 1: messing with me, but it's really real. And I was
Speaker 1: like really, And then later I heard her do it
Speaker 1: again and she goes, oh, she drops something. She goes, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. I'm very sorry, like but
Speaker 1: it slowly. It was just legitimately she was sorry, but
Speaker 1: it was like I couldn't it like four year old kigo,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Oh I didn't mean to i won't
Speaker 1: do it again. Sorry, I'm so sorry. I love it.
Speaker 1: I was like, gosh, she really couldn't sound like she
Speaker 1: means it less incredible. Well, that's it's really funny.
Speaker 4: And on that note, I guess it's time for a
Speaker 4: commercial break. So we're going to go to a quick
Speaker 4: commercial break and we'll be right with Jason Schwartzman.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, and we're back.
Speaker 3: Jason, you still do you still play drums at all?
Speaker 3: He's still, yeah, I do, but it's a little bit.
Speaker 1: I actually why I have this a little electronic drum
Speaker 1: set that I just to try to mess around with
Speaker 1: because the drumming, I guess, the drumming that I love
Speaker 1: to do, it's such a lonely instrument. Really, if you're
Speaker 1: not playing in a band with people, you know, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fun to play drums and get off, but it's
Speaker 1: at a certain point, you know it. And but I
Speaker 1: so I hadn't been playing in years. And then a
Speaker 1: friend of mine named Ben Kuehler was playing a show
Speaker 1: in LA to celebrate the twentieth anniversary of this album
Speaker 1: he put out. And he'd also put out that album
Speaker 1: the same year that my old band fan in Planet
Speaker 1: I'd put an album. And so he said, do you
Speaker 1: want to come on stage with Alex who was the
Speaker 1: singer of that band, and do a song from it?
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, no, no, I don't want
Speaker 1: to do it. And then he's like, your kids could well,
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, my kids have never seen you play.
Speaker 1: And so I played drums for the first time, like
Speaker 1: real drums really, for the first time in like twenty
Speaker 1: something years, just a few weeks ago, and it was
Speaker 1: so hard. I so out of breath. I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I couldn't believe how deconditioned I was
Speaker 1: from drumming seriously, like even just like even at the
Speaker 1: end of just from playing one song, I had gotten
Speaker 1: blisters and popped them in one song. Oh yeah, like crazy,
Speaker 1: just your body, just how I was. I had forgotten
Speaker 1: that whole You know. It's like if you like we're
Speaker 1: like doing something at one level all the time, all
Speaker 1: the time, and then stopped. When you go back to
Speaker 1: doing it, you kind of expect to be like right
Speaker 1: to pushing yourself as hard as you had been doing it.
Speaker 1: And I forgot that that had been after years of
Speaker 1: kind of building to it. And I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, like I almost blacked out, and it was
Speaker 1: so nuts. It was crazy. It was crazy. That is Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's happened to me. Actually.
Speaker 3: I used to run marathons, like yeah, I and then
Speaker 3: I went running last year and I was like, I'm
Speaker 3: just gonna run like eight miles and I like couldn't
Speaker 3: walk for like two weeks after. Really, but you I
Speaker 3: was like, I used to do this all the time
Speaker 3: and no big deal, but yeah, your body kind of
Speaker 3: ages and if you don't do something you but in
Speaker 3: your mind you still think you can do it.
Speaker 1: Yes, but you did the eight miles. I did, but
Speaker 1: it was like I overdid it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty amazing.
Speaker 1: Do you still run? Do you still running nowadays? I
Speaker 1: don't really run that much.
Speaker 3: And maybe it wasn't eight miles now that I'm thinking
Speaker 3: about it, i'd have been more like five miles.
Speaker 1: That's still a lot of Yeah, great, something like that
Speaker 1: I do.
Speaker 3: I do a lot of yoga and I've kept up
Speaker 3: on that so I can still Yeah, I'm still pre rega,
Speaker 3: but I don't run that much.
Speaker 1: I should do it more, but but not that much.
Speaker 4: Is Jonah's really I know I say this all the time,
Speaker 4: but Jonah's really good at yoga. And when we both
Speaker 4: lived in New York, we would do yoga classes together
Speaker 4: sometimes and the teachers were so into like look at
Speaker 4: how Jonah's doing it, like like, oh Jonah.
Speaker 1: Can you do this? Can you do that?
Speaker 2: And I'd be like, uh, he's not the only Bayer here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, but did you get any attention? Did you
Speaker 1: ever get a Vanessa? Great job? Oh? Almost.
Speaker 4: That's why it was starring is because I'm used to
Speaker 4: getting tons of attention.
Speaker 1: But with a yoga I mean, oh, with.
Speaker 4: The yoga, yeah, a little bit, maybe because maybe because
Speaker 4: at the time I was on SNL, so maybe like
Speaker 4: I get like a little bit of like, good job, Vanessa,
Speaker 4: But it wasn't really doing a good job. I'm not
Speaker 4: athletic at all. I'm so bad at every sport and
Speaker 4: stuff such.
Speaker 1: Yogas. That's that's hard. Are you a yoga person or
Speaker 1: tried it. I've tried it. Yeah, I'm not good at it,
Speaker 1: and I but you get better at it, right, I'm sure? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Is there anything you like to do for kind of
Speaker 3: fitness stuff or no?
Speaker 1: I uh, not in a long time. But I like walking.
Speaker 1: I mean I like walking, and I find that when
Speaker 1: you walking, it just it's a great way to I think,
Speaker 1: come up with like songs and ideas. Yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But I hadn't exercised in like
Speaker 1: the longest time, and I went hiking. I don't know
Speaker 1: what happened. I think I peaked physically in September. I
Speaker 1: had like three weeks where I was like recently. It
Speaker 1: was so crazy. It was three weeks I hadn't exercising,
Speaker 1: luck and I had like three weeks where I was
Speaker 1: like I don't know what is happening, but like this
Speaker 1: is what I've been waiting for my whole life. Like
Speaker 1: I'm not tired. I can help everyone else. You need
Speaker 1: you mean to help me, I'll help you carry that,
Speaker 1: no problem you. I'll run them, I'll grab it, no problem.
Speaker 1: Like I was just like I was like I had
Speaker 1: so much energy and I don't know what I was like,
Speaker 1: what is happening to me? And like I was talking
Speaker 1: to people on the phone, They're like how are am?
Speaker 1: Like can I say? I think this is I've never
Speaker 1: been better. I don't know what's happening. And I would
Speaker 1: go on these heights and I would go on these
Speaker 1: walks and like I so I had a look at
Speaker 1: a little folder in my phone because I'd be walking
Speaker 1: like I just having like every idea. It was like
Speaker 1: possible idea about a motorcycle that has a built in shower.
Speaker 1: Everything was like right there for the tation. Wow, I
Speaker 1: could like bike. I would like walk past few people
Speaker 1: and they'd be like, yeah, I know you put a
Speaker 1: wrench in, Like put a rench, I possible name for
Speaker 1: playing one act play put just like everything and then
Speaker 1: At the end of the three weeks, I got really
Speaker 1: tired and I just took a nap. And when I
Speaker 1: woke up from that, I had no more enthusiasm on
Speaker 1: that level and I haven't since I don't know what.
Speaker 1: And it went away. Wow, But it was like it
Speaker 1: was amazing, Like this three weeks of just like firing
Speaker 1: on every cylinder. I just was like, I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it. Yes, I get it.
Speaker 1: I get it. I get I get every I get
Speaker 1: why people have felt this way. I get what we're
Speaker 1: talking about. I get life. I get it. Like I'm
Speaker 1: understanding now, this is life amazing. It was wonderful and yeah,
Speaker 1: and I have like I look back on my notes
Speaker 1: section in my folder and it's like and it just
Speaker 1: kind of ends, and they're not very good ideas either.
Speaker 1: And I would come back and tell my wife. I'm like,
Speaker 1: give a second. She's like, yeah, okay, just imagine, okay,
Speaker 1: just okay. Here's the craziest thing. I had a coincidence
Speaker 1: of a lifetime on my hike, Like, but check this out.
Speaker 1: Like I don't know why, but I'm just thinking this
Speaker 1: word over and over again. I'm thinking this word over it.
Speaker 1: The girl later that's the name for dog at the
Speaker 1: end of the hike like that, and she's like, okay,
Speaker 1: like that's crazy, right, Like I was just enthusiast. That's
Speaker 1: that's that's incredible. Well, maybe I'll get it, but also
Speaker 1: it seems well I will, Yeah, you will get it back.
Speaker 2: You will get it back now.
Speaker 1: But if I don't, it's okay.
Speaker 4: Too, because it seems like the ideas for maybe maybe
Speaker 4: maybe in retrospect, the ideas, but but I think all
Speaker 4: ideas are there's no you know.
Speaker 1: I think I overshot it. I think something happened where
Speaker 1: I was like my overall like soul was like just
Speaker 1: really like almost felt like caffeinated, yeah or something. And
Speaker 1: then for three weeks just everything was great and exciting
Speaker 1: and I was just helpful.
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 1: It was incredible. Get up. I was like, make coffee
Speaker 1: for you, what do you mean to do? You want
Speaker 1: a sandwich? You got a sandwich food. I'd like make
Speaker 1: lunches for my kids that were like each one was
Speaker 1: like customized with like a logo and the bread. Like
Speaker 1: it was just like I was like I could do
Speaker 1: this forever. That's incredible, incredible. It was a great time.
Speaker 1: It was a great time time in my life.
Speaker 2: It sounds sounds amazing. Those were the days, so then
Speaker 2: they were recent.
Speaker 1: Yeah it's September, September one to the eighteenth. Wow, I
Speaker 1: have the whole thing. I could see it on my phone. Amazing.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I wanted to bring up something that
Speaker 4: when we did that movie The Polka King together, something
Speaker 4: that you taught me. Maybe you were going through another
Speaker 4: three week, but what you taught me was you remember
Speaker 4: we were all staying at this hotel, and you taught
Speaker 4: me you could. I never thought of going online shopping
Speaker 4: and ordering stuff to the hotel, right, and you would
Speaker 4: do that and you sort of taught me to do it.
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, I taught you to do it. Wow, I
Speaker 1: never thought to do it.
Speaker 4: And I remember I got these shoes from I got
Speaker 4: these shoes on sale, these like Vince shoes, and I
Speaker 4: just ordered him right to the hotel.
Speaker 1: I know, it's crazy. The uh yeah, you need me
Speaker 1: to stop the com you were in such a role
Speaker 1: and no, and there was but you mean just like
Speaker 1: setting up like a just.
Speaker 4: The idea of like I would always go like, oh
Speaker 4: I have to wait till I get home to get
Speaker 4: this thing.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, you don't.
Speaker 4: Jonah and I were talking before this you it seems
Speaker 4: like you I learned from filming that movie with you
Speaker 4: that you kind of loved to shop. And we were
Speaker 4: also saying, you've got a pretty good You're kind of
Speaker 4: known for your style and to quote Jonah, he said,
Speaker 4: Jason is known for having a great fashion sense and
Speaker 4: that's something that we have in common.
Speaker 1: Great. Yeah, well I do like your shirt, John. I
Speaker 1: can see that your shirt is really nice with your
Speaker 1: like the collar is a good size. Thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my wife got me this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah Joan who got you the T shirt you're wearing.
Speaker 3: Vanessa got me this shirt at because gorgeous. I went
Speaker 3: to school at the college. But cool got the shirt
Speaker 3: Vanessa film something.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh well have you been like fashion or like style?
Speaker 3: Is that something you got interested in like later in
Speaker 3: life or were you like that as a kid or
Speaker 3: how did that kind of.
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I haven't bottled any clothes in
Speaker 1: a long time. But but I but first of all,
Speaker 1: like you know, I think that just in terms of
Speaker 1: like ordering stuff on the flip side. You know, we
Speaker 1: were in Rhode Island, which has a lot of there
Speaker 1: were a lot of really great bookstores, and and that
Speaker 1: was one thing that like, you know, I kind of
Speaker 1: feel like it was a great I thought it was
Speaker 1: a good balance of like, you know, there's nothing I
Speaker 1: think more fun than just like going and and and
Speaker 1: just looking around, you know what I mean, Like and
Speaker 1: and there were great clothing like thrift clothing and secondhand stores,
Speaker 1: and I think that more than anything. I think it's
Speaker 1: just like the just kind of looking around at things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: kind of like if you're on a beach, just like
Speaker 1: looking for like seashells, like yeah, it's sorted, just like
Speaker 1: oh they're one. Like it's not even something that you
Speaker 1: are setting out to to want, right, but you just think,
Speaker 1: you know, and like just seeing stuff and learning about it,
Speaker 1: and and especially with books, yeah there. I mean I
Speaker 1: didn't buy a lot of books, but I took a
Speaker 1: lot of photos of books. That's my move too. I
Speaker 1: do that a lot. Well, great big one yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I take photos and them like I'm gonna buy this
Speaker 3: or take teck in the library later, but then I
Speaker 3: never look at the photos again. Yeah right, make a
Speaker 3: fold folder folder, but yeah, I never make folders actually.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah I don't really either, but I'm talking to
Speaker 1: myself when I say that, I can I see myself.
Speaker 1: But yeah, i'd also think like with that with ordering things.
Speaker 1: Definitely certain things I love. I mean I definitely was
Speaker 1: in a phase too then. And you know, I just
Speaker 1: you know, I love a little something waiting for you
Speaker 1: when you get back.
Speaker 2: It is so fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I and I you know, tipic for me,
Speaker 1: it's like a mute, like a little a cable or
Speaker 1: you know, it's not like yeah, just like nuts, but
Speaker 1: but a piece of you know, a thing. I but
Speaker 1: I've I've I've lessened it because I'm finding that I
Speaker 1: have a lot of the stuff that I'm you want
Speaker 1: to Yeah, yeah, just tending to just organize it a
Speaker 1: bit better. But but yeah, I do like to order things.
Speaker 1: And it's a problem.
Speaker 4: I might be wrong about this. Did I introduce you
Speaker 4: to Nords? Remember there's a Nord stream area.
Speaker 1: You have to I have the card. I still have
Speaker 1: the gift card that you bought me. I never used
Speaker 1: it because I was felt so made me so happy
Speaker 1: that it's like I don't want to free I want
Speaker 1: to freeze the moment. So I felt like if I
Speaker 1: use it, I don't mean that you have money on nothing,
Speaker 1: but like there's a gift card and just made me
Speaker 1: happy because uh and that really, you know, more than anything,
Speaker 1: I think that you introduced me to the idea of
Speaker 1: the gift card. Oh wow, very much so uh and
Speaker 1: now it's like a big thing that for a big
Speaker 1: staple of my gift card. I even buy them for myself.
Speaker 1: But like, it's just nice to give someone the power
Speaker 1: to go find something that they might be interested in
Speaker 1: on your time.
Speaker 2: Well, I you know, I think that I was.
Speaker 1: I had never been given a gift card. I was
Speaker 1: like from the and yeah, I didn't want to catch
Speaker 1: it because I was like, I want this to last
Speaker 1: forever sort of this moment because once it's done, it's
Speaker 1: just this piece of plastic. But right now it has
Speaker 1: something in quotes in it there that is you and
Speaker 1: that is your spirit. That's so nice.
Speaker 4: Well, I will say Nordstrom has great customer service and
Speaker 4: they will honor that it does. I'm sure it doesn't expire,
Speaker 4: just just so you know, really, but I I'm sure,
Speaker 4: But I think I was so sad.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like we've got me onto it though.
Speaker 1: For sure, you got me into Nordstrom, for sure, But
Speaker 1: we had a Nordstrom.
Speaker 4: Our mom is crazy at Nordstrom, and we had a
Speaker 4: Nordstrom came to our neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Like I was probably I'm sure.
Speaker 4: I told you this while we were in Rhode Island,
Speaker 4: but I was probably like fifteen, and we got a
Speaker 4: Nordstrom at our mall, and Joan, I don't remember if
Speaker 4: you remember this, but I don't know if you remember this,
Speaker 4: but I was. I was part of the Nordstrom Fashion Board,
Speaker 4: which was basically like a marketing thing they did where
Speaker 4: they would get like a bunch of teenagers to like
Speaker 4: you'd come like once every other month and do like
Speaker 4: a class and you'd learn about like different elements of Nordstrom.
Speaker 2: But then and you'd get like a discount.
Speaker 4: But it was just sort of like a way to
Speaker 4: like create buzz around the new Nordstrum. But I've always
Speaker 4: been a pretty big Nordstrom fan and that so when
Speaker 4: there was a Nordstrom narrow hotel that you could walk to,
Speaker 4: I thought, this is incredible. Now I will say too,
Speaker 4: I was only on that movie for like maybe four days.
Speaker 4: I stayed like an extra day because I liked you
Speaker 4: guys so much.
Speaker 1: I like you and Jenny slid. Yeah, we were there
Speaker 1: for like weeks.
Speaker 4: I know I was only there for like four days.
Speaker 4: I only filmed with you for like four days. Maybe
Speaker 4: I stayed an extra day. But I must have gotten
Speaker 4: you gift cards, because Jenny has brought it up to
Speaker 4: me too.
Speaker 1: I haven't.
Speaker 2: It might seem like I brought it up to ask.
Speaker 2: That's not why. I don't know, but it is something. No,
Speaker 2: it's not something I would do.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, but I think I was so
Speaker 4: sad to leave that I wanted to give you guys something.
Speaker 4: And you know, Jenny I once because you know, Jenny's
Speaker 4: like she was visiting here and she was like, thank
Speaker 4: you for the north from gift card. I have these
Speaker 4: Air one gift cards that you can use the next
Speaker 4: time you're air one. She gave me like three Air
Speaker 4: one gift cards, which was so nice, and I used
Speaker 4: them in one visit and they got so mad at
Speaker 4: me because they were also they were all for like
Speaker 4: one was for like twenty four dollars and twenty two cents,
Speaker 4: then like the next one was for like eight dollars, and.
Speaker 2: They were like and I was like, and there's one
Speaker 2: and they're like.
Speaker 1: Oh, so mad at me.
Speaker 4: But it was so because she was like, I don't live,
Speaker 4: you know, take these air on gift cards?
Speaker 1: Why why were they for those interesting amounts?
Speaker 2: I know, I need to ask her. I need to
Speaker 2: ask It was.
Speaker 1: Maybe they had more on them at one point and
Speaker 1: she was using them.
Speaker 4: That's maybe like maybe several people had given her gift
Speaker 4: cards and she was like, I don't I'm not going
Speaker 4: to there's value, you know, as you said, there's value
Speaker 4: in this card.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to use it.
Speaker 1: So but there's something about upsetting also people at a
Speaker 1: place that's all about us such good vibes. Uh really,
Speaker 1: it's like weird. You feel like it's like seeing like
Speaker 1: the bad side of a teacher or something. Yes, totally,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, like I thought you were so you
Speaker 1: were so nice.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, they're like are you a member of the club?
Speaker 4: You know, like do you do you get the discount?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: And then and then I'm like, here's these three gift
Speaker 2: cards in the.
Speaker 1: Like rolling his eyes, yeah, yeah, so funny. Oh my god.
Speaker 3: No, yeah, what gift cards have you bought for yourself?
Speaker 3: I'm curious about that because that's an interesting move.
Speaker 1: I got, well believe it or not in an Apple gift card. Okay,
Speaker 1: nice for myself. And and then I got I hate
Speaker 1: to say, but I got a Target one for myself
Speaker 1: as well, and partly to do with I buy it
Speaker 1: for myself. But that is also my daughter, my middle child.
Speaker 1: You know, she loves like like I always get at
Speaker 1: and I am stealing. Is this stealing?
Speaker 3: Oh no, I've walked a line throughout my You're not
Speaker 3: going to make us, so you're probably My answer is
Speaker 3: probably going to be.
Speaker 1: Now you know when you know at like any store,
Speaker 1: there's like a not any store, but like at stores
Speaker 1: at certain sorts, be like a rack of Yes corporations
Speaker 1: and be like best Buy, Starbucks and the gift cards
Speaker 1: for to buy it, then you put something on it. Correct, Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: because we take all I take all those for my daughter,
Speaker 1: like we stock up on all the different companies, and
Speaker 1: we've got like Subway, we have all of them because
Speaker 1: we like to place like supermarket and stuff in her room.
Speaker 1: And I'm often like it's her market, and so usually
Speaker 1: I'm paying with credit card, So I use those as
Speaker 1: my thing, like do you take do you take this? Credit?
Speaker 1: Do you take this? Yeah? This, she'll take it and
Speaker 1: like shame. So but they're like they're great for playing with,
Speaker 1: like fake credit cards. So I take lots of those
Speaker 1: gift cards. Those gift cards, I don't.
Speaker 2: Put it and you don't put money.
Speaker 1: I think that's but the ones I do. But then
Speaker 1: now I'm just wondering, like am I stealing? Like there's
Speaker 1: nothing on them? Is there? Like no, no, no. And
Speaker 1: then definitely like for my kids, it's like it is
Speaker 1: a good you know, it's a it's a good present,
Speaker 1: I think too, especially to get for other I know
Speaker 1: it sounds fun. I mean that's the thing is like
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem like a fun thing in the beginning,
Speaker 1: but when you realize what it is, it really is
Speaker 1: a kind of a great gift because like Vanessa, it's
Speaker 1: like basically saying, here, here's go find something. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just fun. You know.
Speaker 3: I was just picturing like maybe getting like an Amoba
Speaker 3: gift card or something and got fifty bucks to spend
Speaker 3: on record, Like what could be better than that?
Speaker 1: I know, that's great.
Speaker 4: We had so much fun hanging out with Jason that
Speaker 4: we kept talking and talking, so we split our conversation
Speaker 4: into two episodes.
Speaker 3: Check out part two of our conversation with Jason Schwartzman
Speaker 3: next week, and remember to like and subscribe the podcast.