S1: My name is Ben Greenfield, and on this episode of
S1: the Ben Greenfield Life podcast.
S2: Running, bicycling, motorcycle riding, things like that. Yeah, that's where
S2: C60 does a thing. What they do is they'll put
S2: like a little bit of MCT oil in the water,
S2: and the water is hydrogen gas, water and the oil.
S2: Then they'll take that. And and it gives you like
S2: just a boost of energy, a boost of antioxidant activity
S2: like the gym rats and stuff. They use it. They'll
S2: take C60 now, they can lift longer, do more reps,
S2: and they can outcompete the guys that they know in
S2: the gym. And they say, what are you doing? You know,
S2: because now they've gone beyond anything that they've been able
S2: to do before.
S1: Fitness, nutrition, biohacking, longevity, life optimization, spirituality and a whole
S1: lot more. Welcome to the Ben Greenfield Live show. Are
S1: you ready to hack your life? Let's do this. So
S1: I have a confession to make. Last night I got
S1: up and I had a midnight snack. I've got this
S1: almost near addiction to gummies. I'll eat like CBD gummies
S1: and eat gummies and my own homemade aminos gummies. At
S1: the top of the totem pole, though, are these little
S1: purple things called C60 gummies. This gal named Jessica walked
S1: up to me at this health conference and gave me
S1: a couple of these gummies, and it was before dinner
S1: and I was kind of hungry, so I ate them
S1: to satiate my appetite before dinner came out. They were fantastic,
S1: and I already knew about C60 a little bit at
S1: that point. Come up a few times in the podcast
S1: before as a pretty potent longevity molecule, and Jessica and
S1: I got to talking later on. It turns out that
S1: she makes all sorts of different oils and gummies and
S1: different products using this, this C60. She's on the show,
S1: by the way. I'll let her or her, uh, her
S1: partner in crime fill you in a little bit on
S1: what C60 is. So anyways, Jessica has this this company
S1: C60 power, and she has her own story that she
S1: can tell you about how she came to use and
S1: appreciate C60, but she's also brought on, uh, scientist Ken
S1: the scientist, uh, Ken Schwartz. And Ken is the chief
S1: science officer of C60 power. So he is a master
S1: of science and runs, uh, or has run several research
S1: science laboratories over the course of his career and also
S1: has done quite a bit of research into C60 and
S1: what it can do. And he has his own interesting
S1: story about how he got interested in C60 as well.
S1: So my only interest in C60 is that I like
S1: to eat these darn gummies. But Jessica and Ken, I
S1: know that you guys have your own story, so I'll
S1: I'll start with you. Jessica, how did you get interested
S1: in in C60? And I don't mind you explaining what
S1: it is. You go along if you want to. Sure.
S3: Absolutely. Well, my, uh, my introduction to C60 was, quite frankly, uh, accidental.
S3: And it was this guy's fault. Uh, Ken Swartz, uh,
S3: we we met through a mutual friend, uh, some years ago. And, uh,
S3: Ken was just getting started with, uh, C60 power and, uh, he, um, said,
S3: you know what? You just you need to try it,
S3: but I didn't. I didn't know why, I didn't know
S3: what it was, and I was I was just a
S3: little bit skeptical. Uh, but after, you know, some months
S3: and pestering, I finally got on the bandwagon and started
S3: to incorporate C60 into my morning routine. And what I
S3: found been over a period of time was quite phenomenal
S3: for me. Um, I'd always struggled with, um, really painful
S3: PMS symptoms, and this is a little bit of TMI, but, uh,
S3: where I could, uh, you know, a day, a month
S3: if I, if I had the luxury of not working,
S3: I would just not work because I would be doubled
S3: over in pain. Also in my 20s and 30s had
S3: a really short bob haircut because I couldn't get my
S3: hair to grow. And additionally, I was really suffering from
S3: allergy symptoms. We both live in Colorado, and, uh, I
S3: like to hike and bike and ski and I'm always outside,
S3: but I'm allergic to most of the trees and grasses
S3: here in Colorado. So for me, um, within about six
S3: months of incorporating C60 into my daily routine, what I
S3: noticed was my intense, painful PMS symptoms just went away
S3: for me. My allergy. I used to walk around with
S3: a Kleenex under my nose. Pretty much any time I
S3: would eat or take a drink of anything, my nose
S3: would start running. That just went away and my hair
S3: started to grow. So, uh, within about six months of
S3: daily use, I was, um, I was a believer. Uh,
S3: I also had noticed an increase in what I would
S3: describe as expanded bandwidth in terms of my ability to
S3: deal with stress, process information, and problem solve. I've always
S3: been a very analytical person, but C60 just helped me. Uh,
S3: it felt like, uh, my synapses were firing appropriately. I
S3: was just able to deal with stress better and to
S3: get through situations faster. But, uh, the most interesting story,
S3: I think, is, is Ken story.
S1: Yeah. I want to hear about Ken story. I'm sure
S1: like a lot of people spidey sense, skeptic sense is
S1: kind of going off because anytime you hear, oh, there's
S1: some magical molecule that does a bunch of stuff, uh,
S1: typically we have to move at some point into mechanism
S1: of action, how it could be doing some of these things.
S1: I know, Ken, you can speak to the science and
S1: I'd love for you to do so, but how did you, uh,
S1: kind of get familiar with C60 or get interested in
S1: the first place? Ken?
S2: Well, it was, uh, I was a basically. Well, after
S2: Fukushima and stuff there was, uh, looking for a new
S2: energy source, and I had known about some suppressed technologies.
S2: And so I was going to so I got together
S2: with some people and we were going to do work
S2: on what we call today, the Moxie fusion reactor. And unfortunately,
S2: with the Moxie fusion reactor work, there was a lot of, uh, late.
S2: Professors and dead PhDs associated with it.
S1: Wait, what's a what's a moxie fusion reactor?
S2: It's a metal oxygen fusion reactor. And it's, uh, it's.
S2: I think it's the only world over unity reactor. We
S2: were successful in the research, by the way.
S1: Well, it's like. It's like. It's like, uh, like a
S1: nuclear reactor.
S2: Yeah, exactly. You can take oxygen in the metal, fuse
S2: it together, and, uh, make new metals. But you can
S2: also release a bit of energy on the one that
S2: we did and, uh, boil water and run a steam turbine.
S2: And you have electricity.
S3: So he's trying to prove a more efficient form of
S3: nuclear fusion. That was like Ken's introduction into. Like what?
S3: Like needing to protect himself from radiation. And he'd heard
S3: about C60.
S2: Yeah. There's just too many late professors and dead doctors
S2: associated with that. We figured it out. Well, we figured
S2: out what was going on. But anyway, I went out
S2: looking for a radiation protection for myself, my crew, because,
S2: you know, I'm responsible. And so I discovered this stuff
S2: called carbon 60. Most people call it C60. It's nickname.
S2: It's science name is Buckminster Fuller. And, uh, basically they
S2: had science research where they gave one set of rats C60.
S2: The control group, of course, didn't get in it, and
S2: then they expose them to a fatal dose of radiation.
S2: The C60 rats live well, of course the control group died.
S2: And so when I learned about that, I got a
S2: couple sources of C60, and, uh, we took it during
S2: the experimentation, which was successful and all. By the way,
S2: we're all still alive. So it, uh, it works for that.
S1: There's just just a few extra limbs and maybe a
S1: glowing eye coming out of your head.
S2: Yeah, but but it's what was really. You know, the
S2: thing is, I kept taking C60 afterwards because I had
S2: better mental clarity. Uh, more energy like the afternoon, because
S2: you get after you eat lunch kind of went away and, uh. Yeah,
S2: I used to eat more carbs than I do now
S2: back then. And, uh, also another thing I noticed is
S2: about seven months after I started using C60, I went
S2: to my annual optometrist meeting. Right. And, uh, he he
S2: discovered that my Drew's or dry macular degeneration had completely disappeared. Now,
S2: I've had it for years and it was slowly progressing and, uh,
S2: but it just completely disappeared. And he was kind of
S2: astonished at that because he'd never seen that happen. And
S2: that was a good thing because my electrical engineer, Gary Rodriguez,
S2: on the project, by then he had developed severe wet
S2: macular degeneration. He'd had it for years, too, and it
S2: was getting so bad he could hardly see. So he'd
S2: have to give up his career as an engineer. So
S2: I made a C60 preparation for him in MC MC
S2: coconut oil. Because as some of your listeners may know
S2: and the others don't medium chain triglycerides, that's what an
S2: MCT means. It can be turned into ketones by your
S2: liver very quickly. So if you've got some glucose processing
S2: issues like type two diabetes, having MCT in your diet
S2: is really important. So he took a tablespoon of C60
S2: and MCT oil for a little over a year, and
S2: his severe wet macular degeneration completely disappeared. And his type
S2: two diabetes went subclinical. Huh.
S1: Well, what do you think, though? Like, what if he'd
S1: taken just MCT oil? Like, is there some kind of
S1: mechanism of action of C60 that induces insulin sensitivity or
S1: better blood glucose control?
S2: Yeah, the key about C60. C60 is what's characterized as
S2: a sod superoxide dismutase, catalase mimic. And so as we
S2: get older, superoxide dismutase and catalase levels drop within our cells.
S2: And those are endogenous, uh, antioxidant. The cell has to
S2: make them themselves. You can't really supplement for them. Well
S2: C60 is a mimic on those too. So when you
S2: take that it'll restart your mitochondria. And of course we
S2: know mitochondria are make ATP the uh, the, the power
S2: molecule for 90% of your metabolism. And uh, and that's
S2: what's really important. And your, the retinas of your eye,
S2: which of course you have macular degeneration. Actually half are
S2: actually part of your brain there. Nerve cells and nerve
S2: cells are like 50% mitochondria. So if you can restart
S2: your mitochondria back to a much higher level of efficiency, well,
S2: then the problems associated with that, uh, just go away.
S1: And when you say restart your mitochondria, are you specifically
S1: referring to the ability to be able to take the
S1: reactive oxygen species generated by electron transfer and, and give
S1: it something to actually attach those free electrons to, to
S1: reduce reactive oxygen species build up or something like that? Yes, that's.
S2: Exactly what it is. C60 actually neutralizes superoxide, which is
S2: the main, the main oxidative radical produced by the mitochondria
S2: and the most damaging one in the body, and it
S2: neutralizes it back into a regular oxygen in one step. Now,
S2: normally in our eyes there's a or normally in our
S2: cells the mitochondria, there's a thing superoxide dismutase turns superoxide
S2: into a into a hydrogen peroxide. Then catalase turns the
S2: hydrogen peroxide into water and oxygen. But C60 molecule just
S2: basically steals the electron off superoxide. And uh and then
S2: gives it to a hydrogen ion. C60 is kind of unique.
S2: It's shaped like a little tiny soccer ball. You can
S2: kind of see behind us what it looks like. And
S2: it actually it's the only thing in nature that actually.
S2: It's a positive charge by pulling hydrogen ions from the
S2: environment and then storing inside of its cage like structure.
S2: So in the mitochondria it goes to the outer membrane,
S2: which is positively charged, fills up with hydrogen ions. That
S2: makes it positively charged. So it kicks off from the
S2: outer membrane heading toward the inner membrane, which is negatively charged.
S2: And along the way it encounters like superoxide. Just takes
S2: the electron off, transfers it to one of the hydrogen ions,
S2: turning it into hydrogen gas, and then, of course, releases
S2: the oxygen to go back into the Krebs cycle. So
S2: and then eventually it'll use up those hydrogen ions and
S2: some super oxides or hydroxyl ions will stick to it,
S2: makes it negatively charge. It goes back to the outer
S2: membrane where it neutralizes them, refills, and so you can
S2: have hundreds of thousands of little C60 molecules bouncing back
S2: and forth between the membranes in your mitochondria, uh, reducing
S2: the oxidative burden and improving the performance of your, your,
S2: your body, your cells.
S1: There's a lot of soccer balls. How do you actually
S1: make it? Like, is this one of those things you
S1: derive from plants, or is it synthesized in a laboratory,
S1: or does it actually come from.
S2: Well, it's, uh, it's it's made in nature. Uh, originally
S2: in the Earth. Meteoritic and meteoritic impacts make a lot
S2: of it. You can find it like in the KT
S2: boundary that wiped out. So C60 was probably a geologic
S2: deposits of it in the early Earth along it's hydrophobic.
S2: So it floats, but it's fat lipids. So fats and
S2: amino acids are attracted to it. In fact, in a
S2: really cold environment, uh, C60 would fit exactly in the
S2: groove of the RNA molecule and the side groove of
S2: the DNA molecule. And it's hypothesized it was the original
S2: antioxidant of life. And, uh, because it has no toxicity
S2: virtually at any level, and it neutralizes only two oxidative radicals,
S2: the superoxide and the hydroxyl ion, which the body does
S2: not use as signaling molecules. And it does the job
S2: for both of those in one shot, whereas the body
S2: has to have two antioxidants to to neutralize it. So
S2: that's why they think it may be the original antioxidant
S2: of life. And so when you take it it's an
S2: catalase mimic. It restores your mitochondria function. So now your
S2: mitochondria are making or making ATP. They also make pregnant
S2: lung which is the precursor molecule for all the hormones.
S2: And the second or perhaps even the first type of
S2: second tissue type in the body that that has a
S2: lot of mitochondria is the cells, the endocrine system. So
S2: when you take C60 it'll restart. It'll restart your the
S2: endocrine system in your, uh, in the thing. And oh,
S2: by the way, how we make it is basically it's
S2: made in the same way it's made in the atmospheres
S2: of giant red stars. Well, I should probably just do
S2: the whole story about C60.
S1: Yeah, that might be helpful because, uh, when you're throwing
S1: around meteorite sites and giant red stars, people might be
S1: a little confused here. So. Yeah. Yeah, tell tell the story.
S3: I think we need to go back just a minute.
S2: Okay. Yeah, well, there was a there was a guy,
S2: Harry Kroto, and, uh, he's one of the discoveries of it,
S2: and he he figured there was a thing, a mystery
S2: in astronomy. There was something between the stars absorbing infrared light.
S2: And he figured it was one of these spherical molecules
S2: of fullerene. But, uh, then he had to prove it.
S2: And so he, the two Harry Kroto, Richard Smalley and
S2: Robert Curl, uh, basically proved the the existence of C60.
S2: And it was doing this stuff in the, in, in
S2: outer space in 1985. But they got a Nobel Prize
S2: in chemistry in 1996 because of C60 unique structure and
S2: its unique chemical actions. But it really wasn't, uh, there
S2: wasn't a lot around. The way they make C60 now
S2: is kind of like in the atmospheres of red stars.
S2: I mean, the burnt wick of your candle has like 0.25%
S2: C60 in it, but if we want to get it
S2: to 99.99% is what you need, you know, for your
S2: that's the best, highest quality. Basically we have two carbon
S2: rods and a light helium atmosphere like the outer atmosphere
S2: of a giant red star. And they run electricity through
S2: it and it turns the carbon into, uh, into, uh,
S2: ashes and uh, and then, uh, and then and if
S2: you do it right, you get about 10% of those
S2: ashes turn into C60. And this is something also important
S2: that needs to come in, is it's really important where
S2: you get your C60. We get ours from some sublimated C60.
S1: You you said you said sublimated.
S2: Yeah. That's like evaporation is purified through a process like
S2: evaporation where a solid turns to a gas, then back
S2: to a solid. And so that's really important because that
S2: C60 has never been exposed to solvents. There's other C60
S2: out there in the market that are used. They use
S2: methyl benzene to, uh, separate them.
S1: Would the concern there be lower purity or potency or
S1: the introduction of things like benzene as far as a contaminant? Yeah.
S2: Methyl benzene is a known carcinogen. You don't want that.
S2: In your case, there's just. No we have sublimated C60.
S2: It's perfect. Uh, it's never been exposed to solvents. And
S2: so you put it in a sublimate or in a,
S2: you know, evaporates or sublimates and floats to the other
S2: side of the sublimated or condenses. And then it's, it's
S2: it's taken off the plates. And, and that's how you
S2: get 99.99% purity, uh, for the C60.
S3: And bottom line, it's, you know, recreating the atmosphere of
S3: a large red star in a lab.
S1: What's a large red star?
S2: Oh, let's say what it is is our star will
S2: eventually turn into a giant red star. Right now, our
S2: our star is burning hydrogen into helium. And it's it's
S2: like the yellow star we see. But what's going to
S2: happen eventually? The core is going to run out of hydrogen.
S2: And at that point there's only helium left. So the
S2: core will shrink and get a lot hotter, and eventually
S2: you'll start turning helium into carbon. And so now it's
S2: burning helium, the carbon. So like red giant red stars
S2: are just really carbon rich. And because they're so hot,
S2: a lot of their atmosphere evaporates into outer space, and
S2: maybe 0.1% of that of the carbon in the atmosphere
S2: evaporating into outer space turns into carbon 60.
S1: Okay, that makes sense. I think the first time I
S1: heard of C60, somebody was talking about it, and I
S1: don't remember if it was yeast or fruit fly or
S1: rodent or human or what, but about in a in
S1: a longevity or an age reversal context. Yeah. Is that accurate? Like,
S1: has it actually been studied for that?
S2: Yes it has. And that was the original, uh, perhaps
S2: the original study. The one that's really famous is the
S2: battery study that so they name it after Tarek Patri.
S2: He was the chief scientist on it. And it's it's
S2: called the prolongation of the lifespan of rats by repeated
S2: oral administration of C60 fullerene carbon 60. And what they
S2: did is they uh, they basically, uh, they basically, uh,
S2: they gave they gave C60 to Wistar rats. And, you know,
S2: they were also they were looking for toxicity, basically. But
S2: instead of finding toxicity, they found it increased the lifespan
S2: of Worcester rats by 90%.
S1: What's a what's a whisker rat? For people who aren't familiar.
S2: Worcester rat is a is a particular type of rat that.
S2: Characterizes human aging. They usually die of cancers or cognitive
S2: decline or some diseases associated with human aging. But these
S2: Wistar rats had no cancers, had no cognitive decline, had
S2: no diseases whatsoever. And so they just basically lived to
S2: a really, really super old lifespan before, you know, they
S2: hit their genetic expiration date.
S1: Gee, how much of that do you think could be, uh,
S1: extrapolated into humans, or have they done human research since then?
S2: Oh, well, they did, and what they did is because
S2: one of the things is the the rats live for
S2: like five and a half years, and it's, it's rumored
S2: that the last couple of C60 rats had a terrible
S2: accident so they could publish the study, but some people
S2: learned a little bit from that. So they had another
S2: one where they use wild type mice and, uh, which
S2: mice have a much shorter lifespan than rats.
S1: What's a what's a wild type mouse?
S2: It's just it's kind of like the mice that run
S2: around in the fields. So they're pretty tough. They're like
S2: they're they're they're wild. Like they found in that case,
S2: they found it completely prevented cognitive decline in the mice.
S2: And it increased their lifespan by 11%. So that would
S2: be more characteristic of what it would do for a person. 11%
S2: increase in lifespan. And of course, you don't have the
S2: cognitive decline, because one of the things, you know, you
S2: think about what's good are getting getting old. If you're
S2: going to be decrepit, you know, C60 just doesn't increase
S2: lifespan increases. Healthspan. So like with the Worcester rats, the mice,
S2: they stayed healthy. No cancers, no cognitive decline, no problems
S2: at all until they hit that expiration date. And so
S2: C60 just doesn't increase the lifespan. It increases the healthspan.
S3: So Ben, I think right now might be a good
S3: time for me to like throw in a little disclaimer here, uh,
S3: because I think we're going into some territory, uh, with
S3: these stories. So first of all, I want to be
S3: really clear. C60 does not, um, prevent, cure, mitigate or
S3: diagnose or treat any disease. What it does is it
S3: works at the cellular level to lift the oxidative burden.
S3: Like Ken said, it helps to neutralize the oxidative stress
S3: and the free radicals and turns it back into water.
S3: You can basically think about it as a, um, a
S3: fire extinguisher for your cells. It's going to blow out
S3: the inflammation and the oxidative stress and basically help create
S3: an environment at the cellular level where your body can
S3: do what it was intended to do and heal itself naturally. So, um,
S3: the reason why, you know, people are having different experiences
S3: with it, like Ken's story regarding his vision issue in
S3: my story with, um, allergies and, you know, painful PMS
S3: symptoms and my hair not growing, that inflammation manifests itself
S3: in every human body differently. And so what C60 does
S3: is it really helps to address that chronic inflammation and
S3: get it balanced. It helps to balance the inflammation, helps
S3: to promote immune support. And the best thing is, at
S3: the end of the day, that most people, um, notice
S3: a marked increase in energy and mental clarity within about
S3: 30 days of daily use. Once they get used to it,
S3: and then once they start taking it long term, then
S3: other benefits show up that are unique to that individual
S3: based on however inflammation is manifesting in their body. So, um,
S3: the reality is, as a manufacturer of this, these animal
S3: studies are interesting, but they were done on animals. There's
S3: a tremendous amount of research that's been done in human studies. Yeah.
S1: And that's actually what I wanted to ask you. You know,
S1: besides these, uh, these these Armstrong mice and the Wistar rats,
S1: what what have we what have we actually seen in
S1: human beings with C60?
S2: Okay, first, first human study. They put it in a
S2: cream for Japanese women, and they found that it reduced
S2: lines and wrinkles in Japanese women. That's that's like the
S2: very first one. They've also found that rubbed on like
S2: the scalp. It'll increase uh, hair growth uh, for, you know,
S2: especially for people like a PSA. But it doesn't it
S2: slows down hair loss for men with, uh, male pattern baldness.
S2: But because that's a genetic thing, it's it's not going
S2: to really get rid of that. Also, they did other
S2: studies that a lot of the other studies, of course,
S2: there's some studies you can't do with humans because it's unethical.
S2: So they do cell studies. And so one of the
S2: cell studies, they put human nerve cells in, you know,
S2: the test tube in vitro. And then they they gave,
S2: you know, one set of the nerve cells got C60,
S2: the other didn't. And they expose them to a variety
S2: of neurotoxins. And the C cells that had the C
S2: 60 nerve cells that had the C60 resisted the toxic,
S2: toxic damage, whereas controls, of course, were seriously damaged. They
S2: also found they did that with human skin cells. They
S2: they found that the human skin cells that had C60
S2: were resistant to UV damage, whereas the other ones, you know,
S2: were damaged by ultraviolet light. And so those are those
S2: are two of those are a couple. There's also some
S2: cell cell lines. There's oh we could they sounds well
S2: we don't talk about the C word so.
S1: Oh okay. You can talk about the C word. No
S1: no I'm curious about this. Like there's obviously a lot
S1: of antioxidants out there right. Still being or PQ or
S1: glutathione or vitamin C or cocoa triangles. Is there something
S1: in terms of the mechanism of action with the Buckminster
S1: Fuller ring, you know, soccer ball that's making it act
S1: differently or more powerfully like like if I were to
S1: rub like vitamin C into my hair, what, I still
S1: get hair growth or is there something going on specifically
S1: with C60?
S2: Well, there is something going on specifically with C60. There's
S2: like basically the four really important antioxidants, especially with cellular metabolism.
S2: And one of course is CoQ10. You can supplement for that.
S2: The next, of course is glutathione. There is some supplementation.
S2: And C60 actually does the job of glutathione in dealing
S2: with the hydroxyl ion. But that's only one of a dozen, uh,
S2: jobs that glutathione does. So C60 will do that part
S2: of the job for glutathione. So what glutathione you have,
S2: you can can do the other jobs and you can
S2: always supplement for glutathione. But there's two antioxidants that there
S2: is no supplementation for it because they're endogenous. And that
S2: is superoxide dismutase and catalase. And they work together taking
S2: care of the superoxide ion, which is the most damaging
S2: oxidative radical in the body. And what C60 is a
S2: mimic that does the job of both. So so especially
S2: people that have a mitochondria low mitochondria function. They uh,
S2: they especially as we get older sod and catalase levels
S2: go down just naturally with aging. And there's there's nothing
S2: to do. And there are some people that have certain
S2: genetic alleles which which that sod production or catalase production
S2: drops even faster. And so for people that take C60,
S2: it acts as a mimic, you know, passes the gut barrier,
S2: passes the blood brain barrier is taken into the cells
S2: by endocytosis and then into the mitochondria by endocytosis, where
S2: the mitochondria seem to know how to use it. And
S2: it takes the takes the place of the missing sod
S2: and catalase. So now your mitochondria can step up. And
S2: here's something. Oh, by the way, I do need to
S2: do a counter indication on this. Things that you'll notice
S2: if you're on a blood thinner because C60 restarts the
S2: cells the not just of your nerve cells, but the cells,
S2: the endocrine system and the model county and the energy system.
S2: The mitochondria make long, which is the precursor molecule for
S2: all the hormones. So your your adrenals will, like kick
S2: back into action when you take C60. And one of
S2: the things you know that the adrenals one of the
S2: things that adrenals make is mineralocorticoid, which are the important
S2: hormone for regulating blood thickness. So if you're on a
S2: blood thinner, you need to, uh, you need to like,
S2: consult with your doctor and get more testing before you
S2: do that. And another thing is, uh, there's a huge
S2: increase in libido for people that take C60.
S1: You mean in studies or anecdotally?
S2: Uh, yes. Yes. These are the these are this is
S2: just what we found with customers. And and part of
S2: that is the, uh, well, actually we've had many case
S2: cases that, uh, anecdotal, anecdotal testing, uh, actually from testing
S2: that we've, uh, that we've had with that.
S1: I'm curious about this radiation piece, you know, because I
S1: fly a lot on airplanes and I tend to travel
S1: with iodine just because it's one of the few compounds
S1: I could find that actually has good clinical research behind
S1: it for combating some of the oxidative effects of radiation.
S1: When it comes to C60, you obviously had success with
S1: it for nuclear based radiation, but have you ever thought
S1: about any type of mechanism of action or benefit that
S1: might come from using it for airline travel? Besides the
S1: fact that that that I just packed for a trip
S1: to Cabo last night, I always put two of those
S1: gummies in my backpack because I. I eat them on
S1: the plane that it's my little snack, but I hadn't
S1: actually dug into the radiation protective properties or thought about.
S1: So you brought it up a few minutes ago. So
S1: do you think there's there's a case to be made
S1: for using it in conjunction with airline travel?
S2: Oh, absolutely. Because what it is, is one of the
S2: things that like, we're 70% water and the main oxidative
S2: radical that radiation produces is the hydroxyl ion and the
S2: hydroxy line is just a water molecule with the protons
S2: been kicked out. And so now it's, it's now and
S2: then it goes. And then, then it goes out and
S2: causes oxidative damage. Well, when C60 neutralizes the oxygen and
S2: then the second oxidative radical. You're going to be running
S2: into radiation is the superoxide ion. Without electron will lose.
S2: The electron gets on the oxygen. So C60 is. That's
S2: why C60 is actually C60 is the foremost radiation protection
S2: that you can take.
S1: That's that's actually really good to know. Okay. Now it's
S1: my understanding, I think based on the way that you
S1: described it, this is technically a pretty water soluble compound,
S1: the Buckminster Fuller ring. Is that why you tend to
S1: see it mixed in with like MCT, coconut, olive oil?
S1: I think most of the products you guys have sent me, actually,
S1: they're almost all oil based. Carrier.
S2: Yeah, actually C60 doesn't have really much soluble in water
S2: because it's non-polar, so we have to dissolve it in
S2: oil inside your the inside the inside your cells, it's
S2: in the cellulose or it's in the cytoplasm. So it
S2: operates there. But yeah. So it has to be dissolved
S2: in an oil. And we just picked we've we picked
S2: the best oils. Now originally everybody had it in olive
S2: oil because that's the original testing. Because olive oil is
S2: well characterized and easy.
S3: But it's easy to get in your air and it's
S3: cheap and affordable. And they can use it for testing.
S2: Yeah. But it's a little strong and it would go
S2: right through me. So I started that was the first one.
S2: I put it in avocado oil. And avocado oil is
S2: perhaps the easiest oil for human digestion. And so I
S2: find I use I like that because I could if
S2: I took like an ounce of olive oil, I might
S2: have to visit the bathroom. But with avocado oil I
S2: don't have a problem. And then of course, as I mentioned, yeah,
S2: I mentioned before, I put it in MCT oil for
S2: those people that have glucose processing issues and our gummies,
S2: which you talk about, those are in 100% whole coconut
S2: oil and so, so but all of our oils are
S2: all organic. And those are the those are the good
S2: oils that they have the right balance of omega threes
S2: and sixes. You know, we don't want to put C60
S2: in in seed oils which are inflammatory.
S1: Yeah. Yeah. It's it's a component now of my super
S1: antioxidant rich smoothie I have in the mornings. My kick
S1: right now is I do a scoop of the vanilla protein,
S1: the key on vanilla protein, a couple scoops of the colostrum.
S1: And then I do a heaping scoop of this photo
S1: cyan and this blue photo cyan. And you know, if
S1: you go to wellness, you know, juice bar a lot
S1: of times they have those bright blue overpriced drinks. Well,
S1: I keep the freeze dried blue in my freezer, but
S1: a couple scoops of that in. And then I use
S1: coconut water as the base and blend it with ice.
S1: It's like this creamy blue texture. And then I actually
S1: keep the C60 gummies in my freezer. I take out
S1: a steak knife, I cut it into little bits, and
S1: then I drop that into the smoothie with some cacao
S1: nibs and some coconut flakes. It's so good. I mean, I'm,
S1: I'm I'm certain it's very high in antioxidant capacity, I
S1: probably am it's probably so, so rich in antioxidants. I'm
S1: drinking it too close to my morning workout. As you
S1: guys know you you don't want to take super duper,
S1: you know, high potency antioxidants right after workout, as they
S1: can sometimes blunt the hermetic response. But nonetheless, it's it's
S1: a it's a great smoothie. And I wanted to ask
S1: you guys not about the, uh, the smoothie uses, but
S1: about this hair growth thing. And again, I'd heard this before,
S1: the hair growth. What would the protocol be? Could I
S1: literally take, like, your oral, uh, C60 compounds and do like,
S1: I don't like derma rolling and rub them into my scalp.
S1: And I even have this red light helmet in my office.
S1: Maybe put some red light on there. Would that be
S1: like a protocol?
S3: You can rub it on topically, but you can also
S3: just consume it, and it will help promote your growth
S3: by just consuming it.
S1: Is that because endogenous superoxide dismutase can accelerate hair loss?
S2: Uh, yeah. And also one of the things that people
S2: notice that comes here, if you got totally white hair,
S2: it'll come back salt and pepper because C60 works at,
S2: as it says, a sod catalyst and catalyst. Not having
S2: enough catalase is the reason why your hair gets, uh, gets, uh,
S2: kids white. So people come back salt and pepper. But
S2: the main thing is it just gets in there. And,
S2: you know, as we're getting older, there just not enough.
S2: Or there's just the mitochondria action in our cells is
S2: just dropping because the cells aren't getting enough sod catalase.
S2: And so when you take that it restarts the energy
S2: ATP production in your cell or hair follicles. And it
S2: just appears to cause the hair to grow, uh, to
S2: grow fast. Anybody that takes it. Also, you notice your
S2: nails will grow much faster.
S1: Oh, wow. That explains it. My nails have been sprouting
S1: since I met with you that conference. Jessica. I probably
S1: average like two two gummies a day since then.
S3: Yeah, they're hair, nails.
S2: Skin the same way. The skin? Yeah. One of the
S2: things they discovered is C60 also increases stem cell production.
S2: And and this was discovered accidentally. They did a study
S2: where they were, you know, C60 is a antioxidant and
S2: it's known to like, suppress arthritis. So they were doing
S2: a study where they gave rats, they gave these rabbits arthritis,
S2: and then they injected C60 into their joints. And of course,
S2: inflammation in those rabbits went way down, which was expected.
S2: But when they, you know, sacrificed the rabbits and looked
S2: at the joints, they found that the cartilage had regrown,
S2: which was unexpected. And and then from there they found
S2: out what one of the things is. There's a lot
S2: of cells in our bodies, senescent cells. And you probably
S2: talked about it in your other talks. And senescent cells
S2: are like zombie cells. There's usually the DNA damage. Maybe
S2: the telomeres are too short. And and they go into
S2: this fermentation mode where they stop doing the oxygenate oxygen process,
S2: the Krebs cycle, and they do fermentation. And part of
S2: that they, they, they take OCS, they start making sod, catalase,
S2: glutathione and other things that the mitochondria use. So the
S2: mitochondria are forced to go into the fermentation mode, where
S2: they're burning sugar like, you know, fermentation mode. So those
S2: cells are going to be producing alcohols which poison the
S2: cells around them. And, and, and inflammatory cytokines. So when
S2: you take C60, C60 goes into the mitochondria of senescent cells,
S2: it goes right in restarts those mitochondria. And they they
S2: will send messages to the nuclear DNA of the senescent cell.
S2: And they will not get the right message back. And
S2: that causes the mitochondria will then will blow themselves up
S2: and initiate apoptosis, which is programmed cell death. So so
S2: when you take C60 it just wipes out senescent cells
S2: all over your body. Now your body or tissue doesn't
S2: have enough cells because the senescent cells are gone. So
S2: it stimulates stem cell production. I mean, we had we
S2: have a guy that here he had like seven years old.
S2: It's best when they take out the apoptotic, the fat
S2: tissue for stem cells. And he had this. He went
S2: in and you know, he had the he they took
S2: the tissue out. And then the doctors come running out
S2: and say, what are you what are you doing? You have,
S2: you know, he had something like, uh. He had, uh,
S2: he had 73 million stem cells, which is like something
S2: like a teenager would have. And, uh, so and that's
S2: and that's because he was taking C60. So a lot
S2: of doctors, uh, really like people to take C60 before
S2: surgery or. And that's also the reason why after surgery.
S1: Yeah. Except of course, you gotta be cautious with the
S1: blood thinning component, right?
S2: Yeah. Exactly. For that. And that's also why that's the
S2: reason why they finally discovered is why the skin got
S2: better with the Japanese women on the facial cream. Because
S2: if you have more stem cells, then you have a
S2: quicker and thicker renewal of your skin. And that also
S2: applies to the gut. If people that take C60 say,
S2: you know, let their all the all sorts of, uh,
S2: digestive issues, whether it's leaky gut or in other inflammatory
S2: issues and their gut go way down. And so that's
S2: why a lot of people think C60 is for those things.
S1: Okay, probably more advanced like 2.0 use case question. But
S1: based on what you said about arthritis, do you guys
S1: know of any regenerative medicine physicians who might be using
S1: this as a form of pro therapy, like direct injection
S1: of C60 into joints, for example, the same as you
S1: would do with PRP or a dextrose solution or something
S1: like that? I don't know.
S3: Injecting it directly, but we we have a tremendous amount
S3: of doctors that utilize C60 in the protocol. In fact, um.
S1: You mean you mean, uh, you mean you mean orally?
S3: Yes, orally. I don't I don't know about any that
S3: are injecting it, per se, but I, I want to
S3: say one thing here regarding the arthritis. Again, disclaimer C60
S3: is not going to cure anything. Uh, but people we find, um,
S3: very commonly across the board that it, um, provides, uh,
S3: some form of relief in terms of, you know, the cracking,
S3: the popping, the aching that you experience with, you know, knees, shoulders, cracks. Yeah. So, um,
S3: it's it's quite popular with anybody that is helping people
S3: with nerve spine joint issues. Um, we have a tremendous
S3: amount of doctors using it, uh, specifically to provide relief
S3: on those inflammatory conditions.
S1: Have any studies been done on on C60 in cancer?
S2: Uh, well, uh, that's, uh, yeah. We don't want to
S2: touch the third rail here, but yes, there have been
S2: they have been successful in animal studies. Uh, I can
S2: tell you anecdotal for humans, but we probably shouldn't go there. And, uh, uh,
S2: just because of the. It's a hot topic. Yeah. That's
S2: the third rail. Yes, that's the third rail.
S1: Now, now you've got several different kind of types of C6.
S1: You got the avocado oil, I believe you have an
S1: olive oil MCT and these gummies. Why do you have
S1: like so many different types of oils? Why not just
S1: stick with one?
S3: Um, really, it's about choice, Ben. It's what do people prefer? Uh,
S3: as a consumer, the avocado oil is great for people
S3: who are new to consuming healthy oils on a daily basis.
S3: It's easy to digest. Uh, you can use it, you know,
S3: as a if you're going to make homemade salad dressing,
S3: it's great for that. The MCT is phenomenal. And coffee,
S3: it's great in smoothies. Um, and the olive oil is
S3: great for folks that are intermittent fasting when they break
S3: their fast, if they want to drizzle the olive oil
S3: on a salad or veggies or put it in a soup,
S3: they can do that. But it it boils down to just, uh,
S3: personal preference and choice. The avocado oil in the olive
S3: oil hold more C60 due to the structure of the oil,
S3: the MCT holds a little bit less. Um, so typically, uh,
S3: you know, the folks that will use the MCT will
S3: typically take a tablespoon with the olive oil and the
S3: avocado oil. They can just take a teaspoon. Uh, but nonetheless,
S3: it's all powerful. And it just boils down to what
S3: do you prefer? How do you prefer to consume it?
S3: And you're the first person I've ever heard. And I'd
S3: love that you do this, that you freeze the gummies
S3: and that you put it in your smoothie. Because, you know,
S3: we really encourage people to, um, incorporated into their lifestyle
S3: as they see best, you know, however, it works for
S3: you to get it into your system in your morning routine.
S3: That's ideal. And I think the way that you're doing
S3: it is perfect.
S2: And don't forget, we also have C60 for pets.
S1: You mean like for like for the skin or the
S1: hair or something like that?
S2: Oh, no. We're usually internally. I mean, we take the we,
S2: we have actually some up on our C60. Purple power
S2: is our YouTube website and there's some. Yeah. See there's no,
S2: there's no, uh, when you give it to pets, they
S2: just do really great because there's no placebo effect with pets.
S2: And so so.
S3: The folks that have concerns about their aging pets, uh,
S3: with mobility, with energy levels, with cognitive function, um, you know,
S3: a lot of, a lot of our customers, uh, give
S3: it to, you know, puppies or newer animals. But the
S3: folks that provide the most amount of feedback are individuals
S3: who have aging pets, who are struggling with some kind
S3: of age related inflammatory issue, and C60 tends to provide
S3: relief in the energy mobility. And, um, just the, you know,
S3: I would say the sponginess of a of a pet.
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S1: to combat some of the potential for insulin surges from
S1: the growth hormone. You'll see other stacks of peptides like
S1: BPC 157 and TB 500 to hit joint pain from
S1: a couple of different angles when it comes to C60,
S1: whether via studies or reports from your customers, is there
S1: anything that it stacks well with as far as something
S1: that could enhance the effects or mitigate any downstream effects
S1: or anything like that?
S2: Well, actually we found that using hydrogen, water, C60 and
S2: hydrogen gas therapy worked together like chocolate and peanut butter.
S1: Why is that?
S2: Well, C60 is kind of like a hydrogen sponge. And
S2: hydrogen gas is also like an antioxidant. And it's all
S2: part of the process that C60 works. We've had people
S2: go from mid-pack to champions in their field. Uh, athletically
S2: we can't name names, but oh, by the way, C60
S2: is banned by any athletic organization. And so we have
S2: just many, many athletes use the C60, especially with the
S2: MCT coconut oil because, as you know, MCTs could give
S2: you that extra boost. So we've had uh, yeah, we've
S2: had uh, some champions in the field. But what do you.
S1: What do you mean from mid-pack to champions in the field.
S1: That's a pretty big play. Yeah.
S2: That means they went for like, you know, third and
S2: fourth place. Fifth place to first place.
S1: In like endurance sports from a running or strength training.
S2: Or running, bicycling, motorcycle riding, things like that. Yeah. That's
S2: that's where C60 does a thing. What they do is
S2: they'll put like a little bit of MCT oil in
S2: the water, or they'll have their people, you know, as
S2: they're doing the the laps, they'll put a little MCT
S2: oil with the water, and the water is hydrogen gas
S2: water and the MCT oil. Then they'll take that. And
S2: and it gives you like, it gives you just a
S2: boost of energy, a boost of antioxidant activity. Because people
S2: that take C60 like the gym rats and stuff, they
S2: use it. I mean they can all they'll they'll take
S2: C60 now, they can lift longer, do more reps, and
S2: they can outcompete the guys that they know in the gym.
S2: And they say, what are you doing? You know, because
S2: now they've gone beyond anything that they've ever they've, they've
S2: been able to do before.
S1: It's kind of funny. You you bring this up too,
S1: because like my, my airplane bag is the gummies, then
S1: hydrogen tablets, ketone esters and magnesium like that. That's kind
S1: of like my antioxidant of airline travel stack.
S3: Well, one of your questions, um, to your question about
S3: stacking one of our doctors that works with a he's
S3: not our doctor, he's just a doctor that utilizes C60
S3: in his practice. But he works with, um, quite a
S3: significant amount of professional and retired athletes. Um, some of
S3: them who have, you know, traumatic brain injury. And in
S3: terms of stacking, what he shared with us is that
S3: he's got like a mitochondrial supplement that he's created, but
S3: he does the ketone esters, um, along with the C60,
S3: and that is his morning routine with his coffee and
S3: that he's just like, I feel and he's he's an
S3: athlete himself. Um, uh, and he's like, I've, I'm performing better,
S3: thinking better than I have in my entire life.
S1: And are there new products that you guys have your
S1: eyes on developing that you C60 besides taking my smoothie
S1: recipe and, you know, putting that into an easy to use.
S3: Back then, we've, um, we've been creating a topical line
S3: and we're going to have additional products coming out here
S3: in the next year. But, um, to, you know, Ken's
S3: comment about the human studies with Japanese women. And we've
S3: created a C60 Youth Renewal Eye cream, which is phenomenal
S3: for the delicate skin around your eyes. We have a
S3: C60 anti-gravity serum, which is specifically designed to help lift
S3: and improve the quality and youthfulness of the skin. Um,
S3: we also have C60 sexy, which is an edible massage oil. Oh.
S1: It's edible. I didn't realize that you sent me some.
S1: I forgot the edible part. Oh, that's that's that's good
S1: to know.
S3: It works wonders. Um, both for men and for women.
S3: Especially if there are any dryness issues. Um, it this
S3: is safe anywhere.
S2: Yeah. And that's the other one. A big side effect
S2: of C60 is a great a significant increase in libido
S2: in both men and women.
S1: So why do you think that would happen? I mean,
S1: usually an antioxidant doesn't have a direct impact on libido.
S2: But what it does is C60 restarts the mitochondria, especially
S2: in your adrenals and and the mitochondria make them. So
S2: you're now you got like huge increase in androgens. And
S2: so people get like better sleep because you're going to
S2: get more melatonin, more HDL and other things in your
S2: hypothalamus and the stuff in your pituitary and also your adrenals,
S2: of course, make the androgens which then are turned into testosterone, estrogen.
S2: And so that's another thing that people notice is, uh,
S2: body lifters. When they take C60, they can add extra
S2: muscle mass, especially for older body lifters. So that's and
S2: also like for instance as example typical. We had a
S2: guy seven years old, he goes to his doctor, he's
S2: got 350 right. And then testosterone levels which are pretty low.
S2: The doctor puts them on creams. He's like low seven hundreds.
S2: Then he takes C60. A couple months later he goes
S2: into his doctor. His, uh, his testosterone levels are 1200.
S2: So the doctor backs him up on the creams a
S2: little bit.
S3: I want to kind of just weigh in here on
S3: this because it does. It sounds a little bit too
S3: good to be true. The reality is it helps to
S3: balance out hormones by activating for me alone. So, um,
S3: you can see a gradual lift. Again, it's not a drug.
S3: So this is not this is not a miracle. And
S3: I'll be all this is a very powerful antioxidant that, again,
S3: helps to neutralize the free radicals and the oxidative stress.
S3: It just helps to create that environment where your body
S3: can do what it's supposed to do naturally. But that
S3: being said, Ben, it's not for everyone. Uh, it's it's
S3: really well intended for it's it's best for people that
S3: are on, you know, the, the healthy lifestyle choice bandwagon
S3: because it works well with that for the folks. People are,
S3: you know, drinking alcohol every single day and eating fast food.
S3: C60 might not be the thing for you. It's very expensive. Uh,
S3: it's expensive to manufacture, and it works best when you're
S3: already on your path of, you know, being, uh, can
S3: consider it about your your quality of sleep, your, uh,
S3: your daily movement, exercise, you know, staying hydrated. And it
S3: works great with, um, other supplements. So if you already
S3: are on a protocol or if you've, uh, plateaued and
S3: you're not experiencing, um, you know, great results on your
S3: existing protocol, if you incorporate C60 and it can kind
S3: of help, um, boost it and get and get you
S3: back on the on the right track.
S1: That surprises me. You describe it like that because I
S1: would expect a lifestyle and diet pattern that creates more
S1: oxidative stress to be in a population that would benefit
S1: more from C60, and that people who are already healthy,
S1: arguably creating more endogenous antioxidants and getting more of them
S1: from food based sources like polyphenols and flavanols, might be
S1: people for whom C60 is like the icing on the cake,
S1: whereas people with a very stressful oxidative lifestyle would really
S1: benefit from it.
S3: Well, the thing is, is that oftentimes we found that
S3: the folks that don't that aren't embracing those healthy lifestyle choices,
S3: they're expecting a reaction like a drug. And that's not
S3: what C60 is. They're very tend to get very frustrated
S3: if they don't have immediate response. And those individuals we
S3: found typically aren't dialed in to subtle energies or shifts
S3: in their body. And so they're quick to quit. They're
S3: also quick to not incorporate it and follow, um, you know,
S3: a 30 day test about like what's going to happen
S3: with those shifts. And so it's, um, I think it's
S3: not that it wouldn't or couldn't benefit them, but it
S3: might not they might just not be successful using it
S3: because they're going to expect something like some kind of
S3: reaction they would get from a drug. And that's not
S3: what C60 is. Like I said, it's it's a powerful
S3: antioxidant and it takes time. It took a long time
S3: for your body to develop any issues related to chronic inflammation,
S3: and it's going to take time to work, um, those
S3: issues out. And it's a it's a process. The healing
S3: journey is a process. And so we think it's best
S3: suited for folks that are, you know, committed to that.
S3: And they're doing a lot of different things to support
S3: their body. And they want to have quality of life
S3: at every stage and phase of life.
S1: Okay. That makes sense. And is is it naturally is
S1: a weird question, but I've always wondered this didn't naturally
S1: like purplish blue. Or do you have some kind of
S1: tomfoolery trickery you're doing in your in your labs to
S1: make it purple?
S2: Yeah, actually, it's, uh, I don't know how. It comes. Yeah.
S2: It's actually purple when you. This isn't like if you
S2: dissolve it in like MCT oil, it turns it a
S2: purple color. And that's why the company's name was originally
S2: Purple Power because it, it kind of turns it a
S2: purple color. And, and that's just a, that's just the
S2: color of C60. C60 dissolved in an oil turns a purple.
S2: So an MCT, it's purple. And like avocado, olive oil,
S2: it turns it like a dark amber. And so it
S2: should be clear. So you can actually tell the the
S2: purity and quality of your C60 by just looking at
S2: the oil color. Okay.
S1: Is it is it a heat stable? I've always obviously
S1: I keep the gummies in the freezer just because I
S1: like the texture, but I'm curious if these oils should
S1: be kept cool.
S2: They're just like with any oil. They should be taken
S2: care of, you know? Best to keep it, keep it
S2: out of the sun and also don't heat it up.
S2: But but C60 actually extends the lifespan of oils from
S2: around 60. But we you know, it's it's just it's
S2: just just respected as a regular oil. But we have
S2: about two year lifespan on the MCT, on the avocado,
S2: the olive oil, the MCT oil. It's still good after
S2: five years.
S3: Um, but then to answer your question, uh, you don't
S3: want to cook with it. It's not intended as a
S3: cooking oil. So you do you do not want to
S3: heat it up. You just you can add it to
S3: coffee or to tea or just smoothies or salads or
S3: soups afterwards. But don't. It's not a cooking oil.
S1: How competitive is the market in C60? Because obviously I've
S1: seen it becoming more popular. You guys are one company where,
S1: you know, we we just kind of got lucky and
S1: connected at that health conference, the Consumer Health Summit. Jessica
S1: and I've been a fan ever since, so I really
S1: haven't like looked into the marketplace. But is it a
S1: pretty saturated marketplace with C60?
S3: Um, you know what? There's there's about 38 different companies
S3: that have popped up, you know, over the last five
S3: years doing what we do. And there's a handful, I
S3: would say I can identify about 3 or 4 companies
S3: outside of ours that are doing a good job. Um,
S3: but the reality has been most of them, uh, most
S3: of the other competitors are getting their supply from one
S3: single source that is using, um.
S1: That, that, that benzene extraction. Yeah.
S3: And they're all getting it from that company. And then they've,
S3: that company has created some special, unique names for C60
S3: as kind of like a marketing gimmick to, to pretend
S3: like it's better other than being a solvent based C60. So, um,
S3: the bottom line is that quality matters. You want 99.99%
S3: pure C60 sublimated or sublime if you can get it,
S3: and you really want to be conscious of the oils
S3: that they're using. Some companies are selling C60. For example,
S3: in sunflower oil, you don't want to be consuming sunflower
S3: oil that causes inflammation.
S1: Um, well, it depends. I mean, if it's cold pressed
S1: cold extract, it was very difficult to find, you know,
S1: like Andreas, the seed oils up in Canada, they do
S1: a pretty decent sunflower extract, but you still got to
S1: be pretty careful with sunflower.
S3: Yeah. So, um, the other thing is we, we third
S3: party test, um, every single manufacturing run for, for quality,
S3: for safety, for bioavailability, bio bioavailability. Um, and for purity.
S3: So um, that's that information is available on all of
S3: our products. We have a QR code that you can
S3: scan on everything and see that. And it should be important.
S2: There's some people out there more than a few that
S2: have no C60 in their product. It's like.
S3: An activated.
S2: Charcoal. Yes, low quality C60, uh, low concentrations of C60. But,
S2: you know, we send it to third party testing and
S2: you can get, you know, no micro and you can
S2: get the actual C60 concentration. So, you know, and no
S2: microbiological contamination. So, you know, your product is safe and effective. And,
S2: and so and I believe we're the only company that
S2: actually does that that has the QR code.
S1: And do you guys think you're going to make anything
S1: else besides the, the oil products and the gummies?
S3: Yeah, I mean, we're I think the, uh, going down
S3: this path with the skincare, we're going to continue to
S3: roll out different, um, products with C60 that are great
S3: for the human body, clean, clean products for the human body.
S1: Yeah. Could could you do like meal replacement shakes, bars,
S1: you know, things like that. With this it seems like
S1: it'd be kind of low hanging fruit to do, like,
S1: you know, like, what do you do with the gummies?
S1: But do that as, like a, like a bar based
S1: food product or something like that.
S2: Let's just say things are and also, you know, maybe,
S2: perhaps even, you know, beverages type of stuff. So but that's, that's,
S2: that's future products that are under development. And you don't
S2: want to talk too much about that. Okay. But there
S2: will be more things like that coming out. Absolutely.
S1: Well, you know, these are, uh, these are really cool products.
S1: I recommend if people want to try anything. If you're
S1: like me, try the gummies. If you don't like gummies,
S1: I would say, like Jessica and Ken said, maybe start
S1: with the olive oil. So you got some kind of
S1: palatable or even the avocado oil. Uh, the MCT oil
S1: can be an acquired taste. Don't overdo it if you
S1: don't want so-called disaster pants, but the MCT is also
S1: the MCT is a flavor enhancer as well, so it
S1: works really great just sprinkled on the food or, or, uh, or,
S1: you know, spread on the food. So anyways, I will, uh,
S1: I'll link to your website. I know you guys have
S1: a discount code for us and all that good stuff,
S1: so I'll put that at Ben Greenfield life.com/purple power. Podcast. Uh,
S1: anything else you guys wanted to share while I have
S1: you on?
S3: Yeah. I think, you know, you'd asked about the the
S3: human studies, and I think it's important to mention just, uh.
S3: And Kenny could dive in here a little bit deeper,
S3: but the T60, uh, in human studies has been proven
S3: to promote a balanced immune response and also a balanced
S3: allergic response. And that's part of the reason why, you know,
S3: my seasonal allergies, why I've been able to experience some relief. Um,
S3: it specifically because it can keep that overreaction in your
S3: body at bay. Basically keep a cytokine storm from freaking out.
S3: The other thing is I want to mention to Ben,
S3: because I know we talked about this in, in passing, um,
S3: that over the last couple of years with, with the
S3: pandemic flu. Um, you know, we haven't talked much about
S3: that at all, um, intentionally. But the reality is folks
S3: that have, you know, suffered from long haulers, oftentimes they're
S3: dealing with chronic fatigue and just the inability for, um,
S3: you know, their brain to function appropriately. And so we
S3: have anecdotally gotten a tremendous amount of feedback from people
S3: who've said, I've tried, you know, uh, a tremendous amount
S3: of different, um, you know, supplements or things that they
S3: think could help. And C60 has been the thing that's
S3: moved the needle for them specifically because of supporting the
S3: mitochondrial function and addressing, you know, the oxidative stress and
S3: the free radicals.
S2: Yeah. That's we get reports about all the time. It's
S2: like the only thing that's ever worked. And for us
S2: and so.
S3: So if I can say one thing about C60, if
S3: people are struggling with one issue because we've we've covered
S3: a variety of things today. And to your point, in
S3: the beginning, like maybe your spidey senses are going off.
S3: It really helps support. It really helps support energy and
S3: mental clarity. And that's the bottom line. If you, you know,
S3: and over the age of 40, our bodies are producing
S3: less antioxidants naturally. And so C60 is helping to just
S3: support and balance that. And that's what it does. It's again,
S3: not a cure, not going to treat anything or mitigate
S3: a disease or prevent any diseases. But over the age
S3: of 40 when your body is producing less antioxidants, is
S3: just a supportive, powerful antioxidant to help address that inflammation. And,
S3: you know, being in the flu and cold season right
S3: now in the middle of winter, uh, it's a it's
S3: a great time to try it, if you're just curious.
S1: Excellent. Okay, cool. This gives us a lot of use cases. And, uh, again,
S1: I'm biased, but I recommend freezing some gummies and drop
S1: them into your smoothie. But whoever you guys listening in
S1: want to use it, I recommend you try this stuff.
S1: It's actually pretty cool. And if you do dig into
S1: the research, there is some solid research. This isn't just
S1: all like hype and anecdotes here.
S2: It's a site called what is C60 org okay, that
S2: is it's like a 503 C. And so you can
S2: you can go there to learn about all the studies.
S1: Yeah I like some of those third party independent websites
S1: like the Molecular Hydrogen Foundation for Hydrogen Research where they're
S1: not selling you stuff, they're just showing you the actual
S1: the actual data on it. So that's useful. Now what
S1: was the name of that website again? Ken.
S3: It's what is C60? Org for the animal studies and
S3: just for overall comprehensive studies. And then if you want
S3: to go to the human study specifically you can go
S3: to shop c60.com/research.
S1: Okay cool. I'll link to those in the show notes
S1: as well. Ben Greenfield Live.com slash Purple Power Podcast Jessica
S1: and Ken, thank you so much. I've been excited to
S1: talk ever since I met you at the conference, Jessica,
S1: and became a user, so I appreciate you guys filling
S1: us in.
S3: Okay, thanks so much, Ben. It was an honor. Pleasure.
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