Speaker 1: Oh my guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, hello everybody, how you doing? Where are you been?
Speaker 3: Drink some water? Remember there's a solar eclipse happening at
Speaker 3: broy Welcome to another episode of Guys We Fucked.
Speaker 2: It's the anti Slutshan podcast. I'm Karen Fisher, I'm Christina Hutchinson.
Speaker 4: Welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Los Angelests, Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: What the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 2: Saturday, May eleventh and nine forty five pm.
Speaker 1: I know you're going to see you'rein Fisher and Christine
Speaker 1: Hutchinson to a live episode of Guys We Fucked.
Speaker 2: There you go. Look could you just meet Christina? Damage
Speaker 2: your voice doing? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: ice with Netflix. They've made it very clear they have
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Speaker 4: I love bones, daddy, thank you my whole life.
Speaker 2: I can't get a bone by myself. They need it. Okay,
Speaker 2: if you want to send us an email sorry about
Speaker 2: last night's show at gmail dot com. This email says,
Speaker 2: did I molest my brother and my cousin? The judge
Speaker 2: of that. I love this show. It's just such a light,
Speaker 2: lighthearted show. Hi, Corin and Christina. I love you both
Speaker 2: very much and have listened to you four years. Thank
Speaker 2: you for everything you've put out into the world and
Speaker 2: how much has helped me understand myself and the world
Speaker 2: around me. I made it like that. There didn't need
Speaker 2: to be. Y'all are the best. So I'm concerned that
Speaker 2: I molested my brother and my cousin. Okay, okay, just
Speaker 2: another Monday, baby, let's go, let's figure it out. This
Speaker 2: is my deepest, darkest secret that I've kept for years.
Speaker 2: I've never even told my therapist that was a way.
Speaker 2: That's been a waste of your therapy. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: I know. Why pay a therapist if you're not going
Speaker 2: to tell them every thirty years head.
Speaker 4: It's literally wasting everyone's money in time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like logistically, this should be the only thing
Speaker 2: you're talking about therapy until you get through it.
Speaker 4: Yes, honestly, I've just been too ashamed, so.
Speaker 2: Everyone to the show. Yeah, it's taken me. Well, there
Speaker 2: is this thing where, especially when you've been with your
Speaker 2: therapist for a long time, like you do want them
Speaker 2: to like like you, respect you.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's weird. Honestly, I've just been too ashamed. It's
Speaker 2: taken me years to even write this email. I'm glad
Speaker 2: he did.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you wrote it.
Speaker 2: I think I'm ready to share with my therapists. But
Speaker 2: I also would really appreciate both of your perspectives on
Speaker 2: this issue because I trust you both to tell me
Speaker 2: the honest truth. My brother and I have a large
Speaker 2: age gap. I'm nine years older than him. When he
Speaker 2: was around four and I was around thirteen, we were
Speaker 2: on vacation and a few times when we were playing together,
Speaker 2: somehow on our own, we ended up on top of
Speaker 2: each other in a bed, rubbing up against each other.
Speaker 2: It makes me want to throw up just thinking about it.
Speaker 2: I guess we were kind of humping and it felt good,
Speaker 2: and that was really the extent of it. We were
Speaker 2: in a bed, rubbing against each other, and it felt good.
Speaker 4: That's what kids do.
Speaker 2: Well, thirteen is a little old for this, though, I guess.
Speaker 2: I don't remember how exactly this happened, but it must
Speaker 2: have stemmed from me, since I was the older sibling. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I was just learning about sex, and I assume I
Speaker 2: wanted to experiment. I want to mention that I was
Speaker 2: a very late bloomer when it came to sex. I
Speaker 2: went to a fairly religious school growing up and wasn't
Speaker 2: even given a sex talk until I was in eighth
Speaker 2: Grade's if some people never get the sex talk, so
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people never get it. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: so this event happened a few years before that? What
Speaker 2: the rubbing of the brother? No, she was thirteen, So
Speaker 2: how did that happen a few years before that? You're
Speaker 2: not It can't be a few years unless you're eighth
Speaker 2: grade and thirteen, or you're like, that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 2: You're hardly in the eighth grade, right, because you.
Speaker 4: Turned twelve and seventh grade. I remember turned twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean at the most you would be
Speaker 2: fourteen in the eighth innigrade anyway, I remember that as
Speaker 2: it was happening. I knew it was wrong, but I
Speaker 2: definitely didn't full out fully realize what I was doing.
Speaker 2: You didn't know that there was like a power dynamic
Speaker 2: going on because your brain wasn't mature enough to understand that.
Speaker 4: I imagine I.
Speaker 2: Think we maybe were playing house or something. Your house
Speaker 2: ship would go, do you know how body? How much
Speaker 2: of a horse? Seven year old mine year old Christina
Speaker 2: was like house was, let's play house.
Speaker 3: We would play a game called boy Girl and we
Speaker 3: would get on my friend was a year older than me.
Speaker 3: We would get on his mom's like exercise bike, and
Speaker 3: he would like we would like you know, on the
Speaker 3: Titanic when Leo's like holding her from behind, like he
Speaker 3: would do that, and I'm like, it was the most
Speaker 3: alive I've ever felt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no fucking game is The game of playing house
Speaker 2: when you are young is more disgusting than any porn
Speaker 2: you will ever watch as an adult. I concur house
Speaker 2: is where it's ass. Anyway back to the Okay, I
Speaker 2: think we were maybe maybe playing aside, So don't worry, girl.
Speaker 2: It's also funny to grow up and know what it's
Speaker 2: actually like to live in a house and you're like,
Speaker 2: this is not knowing as.
Speaker 4: Kicky as I had helped my imaginary house was way
Speaker 4: more fun.
Speaker 2: Yo, I really wish Okay, all right, So I think
Speaker 2: we were maybe playing house or something, and then we
Speaker 2: wanted to make a baby, and I had maybe recently
Speaker 2: learned that this is how you do it. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't fucking know, to be honest, a lot of this
Speaker 2: memory is fuzzy, slash hard to remember. All I know
Speaker 2: is that this happened a few times, and then one
Speaker 2: time my brother asked me to kiss him, and I
Speaker 2: remember a light bulb going off in my head that
Speaker 2: this was weird, and then we never did it again.
Speaker 4: Good even though he asked.
Speaker 2: If we could play this specific game together because he
Speaker 2: was registering it. Was he registering as sexual? I think
Speaker 2: he was registering it as this makes me feel good
Speaker 2: in a way I can't explain, because I'm four. I
Speaker 2: like feeling good. I am four, I think as far
Speaker 2: as it went, but yeah, I mean, it's good that
Speaker 2: you stopped that because you don't want your brother to
Speaker 2: associate feeling good in the way that he did with
Speaker 2: a sibling.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel so ashamed about this though, because I
Speaker 2: also remember that This is when I realized that rubbing
Speaker 2: against somebody of something slash some one felt good. And
Speaker 2: it's disgusting to me that I figured this out while
Speaker 2: experimenting with my little brack happins. And then when we
Speaker 2: go back got back to vacation, I remember hanging out
Speaker 2: with my cousin female who is three years younger than me,
Speaker 2: and I asked her if she wanted to play the
Speaker 2: same game, uh, and the same thing happened. A few times.
Speaker 2: We rubbed against each other, and I remember it felt good,
Speaker 2: but after a few times we stopped doing it. I
Speaker 2: think I figured out that my brother wasn't the right
Speaker 2: person to be doing this with, but I was still
Speaker 2: curious and it felt good. So I thought maybe my
Speaker 2: cousin would be interested in playing this in quotes game.
Speaker 2: My cousin and I are very close now, so I've
Speaker 2: been considering talking to her about it and seeing what
Speaker 2: she remembers. I mean, my yeah, my first thing was
Speaker 2: going to be like, hey, how about you talk to
Speaker 2: the people that this happened with first, Yeah, because odds
Speaker 2: are they might not even that's not even it might
Speaker 2: not be even.
Speaker 3: Be a blip on their radar. Yeah, And you've been
Speaker 3: so ashamed of this for your whole life. Yeah, think
Speaker 3: of all that energy.
Speaker 4: You could have saved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know that one bothers me a little less
Speaker 2: because we're closer in age and both females. So I
Speaker 2: feel like maybe that could be considered childhood experimentation. But
Speaker 2: my brother and I are nine years apart, So I
Speaker 2: feel like a fucking predator. I was the older child
Speaker 2: who should have known better and known this was wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Again, and all your energy is also going towards self
Speaker 2: if you want to talk about so you're having this
Speaker 2: whole monologue, I feel so guilty. Me me, me, me, me,
Speaker 2: Just fucking check in with the person who you think
Speaker 2: you're scared you would affect it immediately, okay.
Speaker 4: Because maybe you'll find out there was no damage done. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that's the immediate thing to do.
Speaker 2: I was the older child who should have known better
Speaker 2: and known this was wrong. Also, to clarify, these situations
Speaker 2: were always with clothes on, but in a bed kind
Speaker 2: of dry humping because it feel good.
Speaker 4: A lot of my childhood, I just you know, and.
Speaker 2: She was in parenthesis. Gross. You might ask some questions
Speaker 2: about my parents. They definitely didn't know this happened. My
Speaker 2: mom has severe anxiety and my dad is pretty emotionally distant,
Speaker 2: and they never really gave me a sex talk. That's unfortunate,
Speaker 2: but none that really matters here. Yeah, other than making
Speaker 2: me feel like sex was wrong and we shouldn't talk
Speaker 2: about it. That's relevantly. So I got most of my
Speaker 2: quote sex education from friends and TV movies until eighth grade,
Speaker 2: when my school gave me a sex talk. Okay. Also,
Speaker 2: all this over explaining you feel so guilty about it
Speaker 2: that you're like, it's overwhelming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and once you get rid of this guilt, I
Speaker 3: think you're I don't know how your life is right now,
Speaker 3: but I feel like it'll get a lot better.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Although that talk was steeped in religious bullshit and
Speaker 2: abstinence messaging, so it wasn't really that informative other than
Speaker 2: shaming us deeper into thinking sex was wrong. So my
Speaker 2: questions are, did I molest my brother? Did I molest
Speaker 2: my cousin? Am I a predator? And what should I
Speaker 2: do about this to the people you affected? Do I
Speaker 2: need to talk to my cousin, my brother? I know
Speaker 2: I need to tell my therapists, but I'm scared about
Speaker 2: the repercussions. Ak, how she'll judge me. It's therapy. If
Speaker 2: you're judging yourself to mine, you have to be your
Speaker 2: fucking and that includes being good and bad like honestly,
Speaker 2: just you're wasting you want to feel guilty about something,
Speaker 2: feel guilty about you're wasting you.
Speaker 4: In your therapiest time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to hear your thoughts as two
Speaker 2: people I trust and are willing to discuss these taboo topics.
Speaker 2: Thank you for everything you do. Sincerely, Did I molest
Speaker 2: my brother?
Speaker 6: So funny?
Speaker 4: We've been doing the show so long.
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is not a taboo to me in
Speaker 3: any way. But I think we talked about a while back,
Speaker 3: like like Lena Dunham wrote a book, a memoir I
Speaker 3: think maybe, and then she was talking about like being
Speaker 3: experimental like sexually, but kind of in quotes because it's
Speaker 3: like kids don't really know about sex, but they know
Speaker 3: exactly what Quinn said, like when you rub your body
Speaker 3: against something it feels good. A child doesn't have the
Speaker 3: social wherewithal to go that's wrong.
Speaker 2: They don't. We don't have shame yet. It's about to
Speaker 2: get embedded at us, but it's not there yet. So
Speaker 2: we're kind of freely expressing it, which is like this
Speaker 2: beautiful thing, you know.
Speaker 3: But I remember when Lena Dunham wrote that book about
Speaker 3: and she was talking about her little sister, people were like, Lena.
Speaker 2: Dunham's a predator. It's like, no, she's fucking not. Child's
Speaker 2: sexual experimentation.
Speaker 3: I don't even know if I want to call it that,
Speaker 3: but like this is what every a lot of kids
Speaker 3: do it, and I think that, like I had a
Speaker 3: friend who was a year older than me that I
Speaker 3: would do it with. We played a couple hot games
Speaker 3: of house many times. And then I remember a girlfriend
Speaker 3: of mine that was similar and maybe I was like eight.
Speaker 2: I remember one year I asked her if I could like.
Speaker 3: Scratch her butt, because that's what me and the other
Speaker 3: kid were doing, like you know, like just like nice
Speaker 3: like tickle, and she was.
Speaker 4: Like okay, and then I did it.
Speaker 3: And then there was a there was a period where
Speaker 3: I felt guilty about that, and then I.
Speaker 4: Was like, wait, you didn't do it. It's okay. It's
Speaker 4: like it's fine, it's okay.
Speaker 2: You scratched a butt, scratch your butt, and you go
Speaker 2: on to scratch many more butts.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love getting my butt.
Speaker 2: Scratched, so I mean me personally. My thoughts on this
Speaker 2: are okay. Let's start out with you're not a bad person,
Speaker 2: and I think that's something you've been grappling with a bit.
Speaker 4: Do I think you did something wrong? Actually I do, thirteen,
Speaker 4: unless unless.
Speaker 2: You have a developmental disability. I do think that you
Speaker 2: should know not to dry hump a four year old.
Speaker 2: Call me crazy, but that being cool.
Speaker 3: I wonder if they were wrestling, because like siblings, wrestle
Speaker 3: with each other all the time.
Speaker 2: This is pretty specific, I mean, and it's okay, And
Speaker 2: I think that's why you feel this immense skill because
Speaker 2: I think you know, and I think you knew then,
Speaker 2: and that's why you stopped when your brother started responding.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Do I think this is something you can't come back from,
Speaker 2: something you can't heal, something you can't both heal from.
Speaker 4: Do I think it's something that has damaged him long term?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, oh no, all those things.
Speaker 2: Do I think you did something wrong when you were
Speaker 2: thirteen and you should have and you know, knew better
Speaker 2: on the time, and you continue doing it because it
Speaker 2: made you feel good. Yes? Do I think you are
Speaker 2: a bad person. Do I think you are a predator? No, No,
Speaker 2: not not edophile. I think I think you're fucked up,
Speaker 2: and you're continuing to fuck up by ruminating on this
Speaker 2: instead of taking the steps to heal and to have.
Speaker 4: A conversation with both your brother and your cousin.
Speaker 2: I agree, I'm less concerned about the cousin one, although
Speaker 2: I don't think I think your rationalization of the fact
Speaker 2: that you're both women making it okay, I think that
Speaker 2: is that actually like societally damaging ourselves into that when
Speaker 2: in the you know, gay community, there's a lot of seeing,
Speaker 2: you know, sex issues going on.
Speaker 4: So we've had that trick you by women who wanted
Speaker 4: to take photos with to make it better. Let me
Speaker 4: tell you how I do that.
Speaker 2: So so yeah, I mean I just say, yeah, immediately
Speaker 2: move forward and have these conversations. I think if you're
Speaker 2: like if you're gonna feel guilty about anything.
Speaker 4: Like feel guilty about like so you're not letting.
Speaker 2: People heal because you're worried about what your therapist thinks
Speaker 2: of you. That's the grossest part of this email to me.
Speaker 2: It's not the fucking dry humping the four year old. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you made a mistake when you were thirteen? Was that
Speaker 2: inappropriate to I think you should have known better at thirteen. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because because you know how I rationalize in my head
Speaker 2: though a thirteen year old would be hired and left
Speaker 2: to babysit a four year old, that that really is what? Yes,
Speaker 2: one hundred percent, I think a twelve year old would be.
Speaker 2: I guess so, And so to me, it's like you're
Speaker 2: a teenager, you really should be.
Speaker 4: You know, some some thirteen year olds are many.
Speaker 2: Thirteen year olds are actively participating in sex, you know,
Speaker 2: and I know you know, and I know you're religious,
Speaker 2: and that's fine. Again, let's displaying gain this s guilt.
Speaker 2: It's a waste of everybody's fucking time and energy at
Speaker 2: this point.
Speaker 4: And that's the part that's kind of pissing me off
Speaker 4: about this.
Speaker 2: Do the work to.
Speaker 4: Heal and to make sure everyone that you fear you.
Speaker 2: Affected is okay, because right now you're in a place
Speaker 2: or yourself. And it's also so me, me me. That's
Speaker 2: the gross part about it is the me me me me, me,
Speaker 2: me me me me. Okay, all right, you felt that
Speaker 2: you felt whatever you felt, Move fucking forward, have these
Speaker 2: responsible adult conversations with your brother and your cousin and
Speaker 2: your therapists, and let's heal these wolves. That's the end
Speaker 2: of it. You're not you're not a bad person for
Speaker 2: the rest of your life. You're not predator. You don't
Speaker 2: need to put yourself on a list. This is just
Speaker 2: so fucking dramatic. Yeah, don't do the work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's there is a little bit
Speaker 3: of an error of like not romanticizing. It's a little
Speaker 3: bit but yeah, yeah, like dancing with it a little
Speaker 3: too tight.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this has probably been your whole fucking
Speaker 2: identity at this point, and you wasn't predator.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you've not told anybody about it except us
Speaker 3: and now the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's okay, Yes, it's okay. You're not a bad person.
Speaker 2: You made a mistake.
Speaker 4: We all make mistakes, we all do things that are
Speaker 4: not great.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: You know what bad people don't do. They don't ponder
Speaker 3: whether they're a good or bad person.
Speaker 2: So there's one sign.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, they're romanticizing for sure.
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Speaker 4: This is very fun Yeah, this is very fun. It's
Speaker 4: very fun.
Speaker 3: I wanted to get your opinion on this Instagram post.
Speaker 3: It's from Jake Woodward Woodard mm hmm sounds like I'm
Speaker 3: saying wood and I'm from PA. I want to shout
Speaker 3: out his handle. It's Underscore. Jake w O O D
Speaker 3: A R D. His bio says helping nice guys and
Speaker 3: quotes discover their masculine edge and enhance their relationship with women.
Speaker 3: And then he also says marriage, family, traditional values. So
Speaker 3: you know, we know what that's code for, go to
Speaker 3: the kitchen. But I'm curious what you thought, because I'm like,
Speaker 3: you know, some of these dating coaches, I'm like, I
Speaker 3: they they'll say things and I'm like, oh, you fucking
Speaker 3: backwards ass. And then sometimes they'll say things that I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't think those backwards Actually think I agree with it.
Speaker 2: Sometimes people say things They're like, I don't want it
Speaker 2: to be true, but I fucking noticed, And I know
Speaker 2: if you want to succeed in dating, you've got to
Speaker 2: do these things right.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: So this guy, this guy, Jake, says it's a man's
Speaker 3: responsibility in the relationship to protect his woman's femininity. He
Speaker 3: does this by removing the masculine responsibilities from her as
Speaker 3: much as possible. When a woman is loaded down with
Speaker 3: too many decisions, tasks, work, and leading, it pushes her
Speaker 3: to be more masculine, being a strong man who leads
Speaker 3: the relationship that I don't like.
Speaker 4: You create an environment.
Speaker 3: For her to thrive in her femininity by protecting her
Speaker 3: from being masculine masculinized.
Speaker 4: Oh shit, I mean what I.
Speaker 2: Think about that is, I think if you if that's
Speaker 2: a way for what's his name, Jake Woodard, for Jade
Speaker 2: not to have a wife who's a bitch. Yeah, if
Speaker 2: you want a wife who's not going to act like
Speaker 2: a bitch because you stressed out, Yes, that's accurate. Do
Speaker 2: I think it's necessarily you have like no, Yeah, and
Speaker 2: a lot of those things in there that that's like,
Speaker 2: I like doing a lot of those things totally.
Speaker 3: And I do find myself like loving when I feel
Speaker 3: the most like I'll feel very feminine in my relationship
Speaker 3: at certain time.
Speaker 4: And I really I love it.
Speaker 3: And then he says it's a woman's responsibility in the
Speaker 3: relationship to be a place of peace for her man.
Speaker 3: She does this by being a soft, warm place for
Speaker 3: him to land when he is done fighting the battles
Speaker 3: of his day. When a man is constantly being challenged
Speaker 3: and criticized by his woman, it pushes him away and
Speaker 3: causes him to lose attraction.
Speaker 4: I mean, no one likes to be constantly criticized.
Speaker 2: It's awful, it's chip, it chips away at you. But
Speaker 2: being a soft, feminine woman who nurtures her man, it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: this is where you lost me, Jake, and shows him
Speaker 2: respect and appreciation. You create an environment for him to
Speaker 2: love and cherish you deeply. Okay, So what do I
Speaker 2: think this would work and make a man like you? Yes?
Speaker 2: Do I think ultimately a modern woman would be happy
Speaker 2: by following these rules? No, I certainly would end. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean that's a little that's a little scut for
Speaker 2: me because, like again when we were talking about the
Speaker 2: uh uh Getting to ide book, a lot of those
Speaker 2: concepts and like things that are just in currently true
Speaker 2: for a lot of women in a lot of men,
Speaker 2: or the feminine role and the masculine role I do
Speaker 2: agree with and like that is part of the dynamically,
Speaker 2: But what I think more so is not that the woman.
Speaker 2: You know, the woman has to play one role and
Speaker 2: the man has to play.
Speaker 4: Role one role.
Speaker 2: What I agree with that I don't think Jake would
Speaker 2: agree with is that you just have to decide who's
Speaker 2: playing what role and then stick to those roles, Like
Speaker 2: you can't both try to constantly butt heads and be
Speaker 2: the masculine. But I also think that if the woman
Speaker 2: wants to be the masculine and the man wants to
Speaker 2: take the more feminine role, that's fine as long as
Speaker 2: you have agreed upon that. Yeah. And then again, of
Speaker 2: course there's my favorite, which is more challenging, but I
Speaker 2: found people that it does work with, which is like
Speaker 2: the people who can flip yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 2: I that's that's where I really am my best self
Speaker 2: and I can flip.
Speaker 3: That makes the most sense because everybody, regardless of your gender,
Speaker 3: has like a masculine side and a feminine side. Like sure,
Speaker 3: there's so many times where I feel very manly and
Speaker 3: I fucking love it, Like if I'm working on a car, i'n't.
Speaker 2: Done that in a while.
Speaker 3: But like like when I drove the Mustang, honestly, I
Speaker 3: felt like a fucking dude, but in a great way,
Speaker 3: like it brought out my masculine side to me that
Speaker 3: I just I loved it so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because for me, like even though I feel masculine
Speaker 2: a lot, it doesn't make me feel like a man,
Speaker 2: it makes me feel like a powerful woman. And that's
Speaker 2: also like, you know, isn't that kind of unfortunate ingrained
Speaker 2: misogyny in and of itself? Right, Like to feel like
Speaker 2: we associate feeling powerful with feeling like masculine like that,
Speaker 2: I don't think that needs to be so. And I mean,
Speaker 2: obviously I know like how to feel powerful in the feminine,
Speaker 2: but a lot of times that is intertwined with sexuality,
Speaker 2: and I know I wish it didn't have to be.
Speaker 4: You know me too, me too.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 2: Also, I will do an internet theme today, so there.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 2: I've talked about her before. There's she's the slum Flower
Speaker 2: on I love her Yeah, on Instagram. She's hosted the
Speaker 2: slum Flower Hour podcast, one of my favorite just feminists
Speaker 2: and podcasters. And so she did a speech at Oxford
Speaker 2: University that she posts online and I wanted to play
Speaker 2: this too.
Speaker 4: Should we hook this in via bluetooth?
Speaker 1: Eric?
Speaker 2: I was gonna do it myself, but then I was like,
Speaker 2: there's no transcription here, and I'm not going to sit
Speaker 2: here and transcribe the whole thing. And she has also
Speaker 2: such a beautiful accent that we should just listen to
Speaker 2: her say it. Yeah, if you do the broadcaster mmmm
Speaker 2: mm hmmm. All right, I just want to make sure
Speaker 2: this is not too loud, you know, let me know
Speaker 2: when you're connect right, I'm connecting, okay, connected to let's
Speaker 2: see bluetooth. Is it recognizing it? Okay, I didn't see.
Speaker 4: Or if you want to give me send me the
Speaker 4: video I can.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think my phone just doesn't like connecting to it.
Speaker 2: Just go to the Sunflower. It's the first pinned one
Speaker 2: on Instagram. Let me make sure I can connect to
Speaker 2: Lauren's MacBook pro. Okay, what if what if we just
Speaker 2: actually we should send inspirational speeches to other women? Yeah,
Speaker 2: because we're always getting unwanted dicks. Well what It's funny
Speaker 2: because the woman out of stairs for me, I know,
Speaker 2: she sometimes listens to the podcast. So sometimes I'm like,
Speaker 2: maybe I should drop an early clip and see what
Speaker 2: see her feedback? Nice?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 2: It remixed with the slum Flower. Okay, so it's this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so ready, yeah, moving and so.
Speaker 6: My work is all about encouraging women to dream beyond
Speaker 6: being loved by a man, because the reality is, if
Speaker 6: you are in love with yourself and you are living
Speaker 6: a life that you have chosen and not settled for,
Speaker 6: the love will inevitably find you. That love will never
Speaker 6: in any way compare to the love you already feel
Speaker 6: chills because you've set that foundation, and the love that
Speaker 6: could come from any man, no matter how amazing he is,
Speaker 6: will only be an external.
Speaker 2: Addition charting down man.
Speaker 6: And so it's important that through this conversation, hopefully we
Speaker 6: leave with the opportunity to confront and interrogate the ways
Speaker 6: that we understand love as it is fed to us
Speaker 6: to do. Also identify the ways that we use love
Speaker 6: as a way to distract.
Speaker 4: Ourselves from a personal purpose.
Speaker 6: The partner that you feel is for you, there is
Speaker 6: always going to be more work to do. And so,
Speaker 6: in the grand scheme of the conversation of women's sacrifice
Speaker 6: too much for love, I do believe that the biggest sacrifice.
Speaker 2: A woman makes for herself the.
Speaker 6: Sacrifice of her own self, her own identity, the version
Speaker 6: of her that she could be outside of making I
Speaker 6: want to cry for the opportunity to be loved by
Speaker 6: someone who barely is changing anything about himself in order.
Speaker 1: To be a woman.
Speaker 2: They're time, yeah, will always interrupted. And the best part
Speaker 2: of this is that, and she pointed out herself, the
Speaker 2: best part of that is that she she gave this
Speaker 2: incredibly moving speech with a shirt with her titties she was,
Speaker 2: which was so great. So I think there was a
Speaker 2: couple of parts of that. But for me specifically, I
Speaker 2: think the part that I wanted to really talk about
Speaker 2: is that we use love as a distraction from accomplishing
Speaker 2: things in our personal lives. Right, That's not exactly the
Speaker 2: way she worded, but pretty much fed that.
Speaker 4: And we've been fed that. Yes, that's the other part.
Speaker 2: And so I think so often, and I mean I
Speaker 2: was even just like watching a clip of Alfred, an
Speaker 2: old vintage clip of Sir Alfred Hitchcock, not my Dog's
Speaker 2: film director accepting. I guess it was like I don't
Speaker 2: know if it was a writer Academy Award or one
Speaker 2: of those. It was like a fancy dinner ones ones
Speaker 2: with you know, life lifetime achievement types ones And he
Speaker 2: gives us really beautiful speech and he's like, I want
Speaker 2: to thank four people, and then you know, spoiler alert,
Speaker 2: the four people are actually these four different, really significant
Speaker 2: roles that his wife has played. And his wife was
Speaker 2: not someone who stayed at home and his wife, well,
Speaker 2: his wife was a extremely accomplished screenwriter and editor. And
Speaker 2: then he also attributes her to being like a wonderful
Speaker 2: cook and then you know, raising their child, right, and
Speaker 2: so she, you know, was a part of the industry.
Speaker 4: But even seeing that, you know, he says, I want
Speaker 4: to share this award.
Speaker 2: With her equally, and I love that, And of course,
Speaker 2: for the time period that they lived in, that was
Speaker 2: pretty groundbreaking.
Speaker 4: But it is still it's like, so why don't we know?
Speaker 2: Why why am I sitting here in twenty twenty four
Speaker 2: talking about Alfred Hitchcock's wife? You know?
Speaker 6: Why?
Speaker 4: Why is her name?
Speaker 2: Not every fucking person knows Alfred Hitchcock.
Speaker 4: We don't know his wife's name. I can't even actually
Speaker 4: remember it right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, right, And so yes, it's lovely
Speaker 2: that he's sharing the award with her, But as if
Speaker 2: we're talking about like who gets these accolades, who gets
Speaker 2: the respect of whose memory lives on, it's not Alfred
Speaker 2: Hitchcock's wife's memory lives on with her, right and so
Speaker 2: it's you know, with him, but not in society, to
Speaker 2: only those who knew her directly. Whereas Alfred Hitchcock never
Speaker 2: met that guy. I went to his fucking apartment in
Speaker 2: in you know, England, that's how much I love him. Well,
Speaker 2: I heed my dog after him and again roundbreaking for
Speaker 2: the time, you know. But but still so it's a
Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I think we have been tricked into thinking.
Speaker 2: And we've talked about this a little bit before conceptually,
Speaker 2: but that like love and finding a man and gaining
Speaker 2: the love of a man, gaining that even sills coming
Speaker 2: out of my mouth, is such an achievement that we
Speaker 2: don't we don't even need to achieve anything in our
Speaker 2: personal lives. We've already achieved it if we found a husband.
Speaker 4: And I consciously stunts a lot of women.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I just see so many women supporting men
Speaker 2: through these amazing achievements, and I go, that is lovely,
Speaker 2: and yes, of course that is part of partnership. But
Speaker 2: why didn't you personally achieve any of these things.
Speaker 4: Like you obviously had it in you?
Speaker 2: And there must be this fear in us that's like, Oh,
Speaker 2: it's it's easier. It's easier to support a man, and
Speaker 2: he can and he can be the kind of face
Speaker 2: of our couple, even though I'm putting in most likely
Speaker 2: probably the harder work. I'm not doing the fun work.
Speaker 2: I'm doing the harder work raising kid and helping him
Speaker 2: emotionally and supporting him and being there for him during
Speaker 2: these you know, pitfalls. Like it's I just think that
Speaker 2: we don't even realize how much we're robbing ourselves as
Speaker 2: far as the personal achievements.
Speaker 4: You know, it's so interesting too.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking of now, Like all the sex workers that
Speaker 3: I have talked to, they'll say they'll they'll drop a client,
Speaker 3: meaning they won't no longer work with that client, if
Speaker 3: the like. And I've had this conversation with so many
Speaker 3: sex workers like, yeah, I stopped working with this guy.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, did he do something wrong? He just
Speaker 4: wanted to.
Speaker 2: Talk to me and dump on me, and I way
Speaker 2: rather just fuck him. Sure, And I'm like, wow, that
Speaker 2: really does speak to like, you know, what is the
Speaker 2: atmosphere like in your relationship? Like it's a really good
Speaker 2: thing to interrogate from time to time, what's the burden
Speaker 2: to It's actually not you needing to fuck all the time.
Speaker 2: You've tricked yourselves, or maybe you haven't. You know what,
Speaker 2: Actually men are very smart. They haven't tried themselves into anything.
Speaker 2: They know exactly what they're doing. I'm like tired of
Speaker 2: this conversation about men being stupid. Is men go along
Speaker 2: with it because it's it's what they've weaponized it because
Speaker 2: it's it's it's more convenient if we think they're stupid.
Speaker 2: You're not stupid. You're very fucking smart. You've built the
Speaker 2: entire world. And I'm on fucking onto you. I'm fucking
Speaker 2: on to you's got you pay? Yeah, I love there's
Speaker 2: very you know again, there's very few people that I
Speaker 2: really like to see on the internet that go, Wow,
Speaker 2: that person is doing some groundbreaking work, thinking about things
Speaker 2: in a way that I love that can make me
Speaker 2: a better person.
Speaker 4: I fucking love the slum Flower.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love her y.
Speaker 4: She's fucking fantastic, ratible and I'm.
Speaker 2: So glad she gave that speech with her teddies out.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: Who else lovest out?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well yeah, our guests, our fucking guest.
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Speaker 3: But when we say this guy is a legend, this
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Speaker 3: probably their your favorite standup comedians, favorite stand up comedian.
Speaker 2: He is just he's a comics comic. He is a
Speaker 2: legend in his own and he's such a legend.
Speaker 4: He's a the number one person on my to do list.
Speaker 2: Which is it's a tough list to get on.
Speaker 4: Is a list I made when I was a teen.
Speaker 2: But that will say legal, I can't really actually remember eighteen, guys,
Speaker 2: shut up, I can't. I might have been sixteen, but
Speaker 2: for the purposes of legality, let's say eighteen. I need
Speaker 2: it to do list. And yes, it was a list
Speaker 2: of men to men I wanted to fuck. And Dave
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Speaker 3: His new special Hot Cross Buns is out March twenty
Speaker 3: six on Netflix. Ladies and gentlemen, please give a very
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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me and I love the new location.
Speaker 2: Thank you. I knew I knew by the look in
Speaker 2: your eyes as he walked through the door. I'm like,
Speaker 2: he's happy to be here.
Speaker 1: Get any closer to the Quinta? D about scandal? Am
Speaker 1: I right?
Speaker 2: Scandal happening at the Laquinta.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, A lot of murder, a lot of murder.
Speaker 2: I was I was watching a documentary about docuseries about
Speaker 2: what Times Square was like in the seventies, just the
Speaker 2: mere seventies. Hookers were of sex workers were being murdered
Speaker 2: in hotels. But the filth, the filth of Times Square.
Speaker 3: Like the with the booths, with being able to go.
Speaker 3: First it started at watching porn. Then it was peep shows,
Speaker 3: people was touching the titties.
Speaker 1: Eventually had that and they had live sex shows as well.
Speaker 2: Right, and then all the men just became heathens, and
Speaker 2: then there was crime and so well.
Speaker 1: That is a romanticizing of it. But a lot of
Speaker 1: it was a smelly, dirty thing. But it wasn't expensive
Speaker 1: like now, you know, this is before pb panera bread.
Speaker 1: I mean, sure you could go see a sex show,
Speaker 1: but you'd have to walk miles for some bread. Right,
Speaker 1: So you got to take the pluses and minuses of it.
Speaker 1: You know, you want a green salad, you want a
Speaker 1: green salad. You're not going to get it there in
Speaker 1: times you're sure you're going to get a vicious fisting, right, well,
Speaker 1: you're not going to get a delicious salad made in
Speaker 1: front of you by a grumpy person wearing a.
Speaker 2: Mask that makes it taste better. I've never been fisted,
Speaker 2: though I've not I've been fisted. You have, Yeah, yeah, that.
Speaker 1: Explains that outfit. You're ready to go.
Speaker 2: But we never had a fisting episode because you know,
Speaker 2: what fisting is not what you think it is. It's
Speaker 2: not taking a fist. Well it's what I thought it
Speaker 2: was taking a fist and punching, you know, just putting
Speaker 2: it up there. It's just this, it's just fisting is
Speaker 2: just wide fingering. Okay, well but but but but they
Speaker 2: they do have sex boys that are actually a full fist.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, if it we're just talking about these
Speaker 2: four fingers, then yeah, that I that everyone's tried to
Speaker 2: do that. Yeah, yeah, but that's not that's I feel
Speaker 2: like it's more. There's more because Margaret Show has gotten
Speaker 2: whole fested.
Speaker 1: Oh what about the spock? Have you done that?
Speaker 2: Never?
Speaker 1: You have it that live, long and processed.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 4: That's like you like an arety convention.
Speaker 3: Or are you separating two fingers in each hole or
Speaker 3: are you getting in there like a tampon and then
Speaker 3: going we spread your wings.
Speaker 1: I mean, how long we've been there on the air now?
Speaker 1: Twenty seconds right right at fisting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean you ask for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it just it just happened.
Speaker 2: You're right, were you? Did you live in New York
Speaker 2: with Times Square was like a dirty horse?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, No, I was there in the in the
Speaker 1: mid eighties eighties, and that's when it still was like that.
Speaker 1: And then a couple of years ago, I believe his
Speaker 1: name was Bloomberg, said we're gonna bring in all this business.
Speaker 1: They're all like, no, don't do it. And then everyone
Speaker 1: got used to it and they're like, it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: And now we're kind of on the other side of
Speaker 1: it where it's like filthy dirty again, but not.
Speaker 2: Fun, right, I mean, we can all agree that it's.
Speaker 1: Filthy and dirty, but not.
Speaker 2: A fun hang here, literal dirt.
Speaker 1: It's real expansive, it's kind of creepy, dangerous, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like it was back then. But I'm also
Speaker 1: very old. So for you guys, you're young. Do you
Speaker 1: find this exciting these times?
Speaker 2: I don't think they're very old, nor do I think
Speaker 2: we are young. Correct?
Speaker 1: Really, yeah, as you say that, are you self fisting?
Speaker 4: Okay, there's something that's sitting.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just had my OCD tics are
Speaker 2: really bad having to sit in the same position for
Speaker 2: a long time, So I'm just trying to make this
Speaker 2: the sitting more interesting.
Speaker 1: I like the outfit.
Speaker 2: By the way, thank you.
Speaker 1: For it's nice. Yeah, I was there when it was
Speaker 1: pretty uh pretty. I would say that it was uh
Speaker 1: it was the end of it, you know, like almost
Speaker 1: like it was the end of the comedy Boom. Was
Speaker 1: also the end of like that kind of filthy New York.
Speaker 1: And a lot of it had to do with not
Speaker 1: just that people were like, you know, hey, this is immoral.
Speaker 1: It was just like the rent went up, you know,
Speaker 1: all that happened because there was like low cheap rent
Speaker 1: and like all those DVD erotica shops, you know that
Speaker 1: there's only like a few left, but back then it
Speaker 1: was like pretty much every every other one, and like, honestly,
Speaker 1: that was always the weird end of the night, you know,
Speaker 1: where it's like you're drunk you're gonna go buy a porn.
Speaker 1: You have to buy them. You can't just like download
Speaker 1: it or anything like, there's nothing like that yet. So
Speaker 1: you're buying them, and it's like you and just other
Speaker 1: sad dudes in there, and then the guys who run
Speaker 1: the shops who kind of look like I can't.
Speaker 2: Believe voter killers.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Have you ever feared for your safety in New York?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think I always jumped once or twice. I
Speaker 1: really don't remember, you know, during the drunken days. But
Speaker 1: you know, now, I think it's a different level, you know.
Speaker 1: But I'm always wondering if it's Is it because I'm old,
Speaker 1: I'm a homeowner now, you know, Like you know, do
Speaker 1: you walk.
Speaker 2: Around telling people that is it? Like a son? Yes?
Speaker 4: I usually walk your finger a ring and engagement.
Speaker 1: My butler does, have my announcer do it, my publicist.
Speaker 1: But no, I was like, you know, I wonder it
Speaker 1: was because I'm it's like, I'm past all that. And
Speaker 1: look at the young kids moving here, because you see
Speaker 1: him like in the village on the weekend and they
Speaker 1: were all dressed up having a great time past that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So that's the thing. It's like you know it's a
Speaker 1: like a Sex and the City thin. Can I reference
Speaker 1: that reference on this show?
Speaker 2: Never the first person bring it up exactly and I.
Speaker 1: Remember their fisting episode. I believe it all had to
Speaker 1: do No.
Speaker 2: Have you seen every episode of Sex and the City?
Speaker 5: Dude?
Speaker 1: No, I haven't, but I believe my husband has.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: I think when you're on the road and we're all
Speaker 1: road people, like there is that like you know, you
Speaker 1: have to watch the TV of the comfort in of
Speaker 1: the les and they always have like a Sex and
Speaker 1: City marathon. It's like comforting. You're like just laying there
Speaker 1: in a strange bed. Yeah, watching the Lady Brunch.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful.
Speaker 1: Nice? So you great? Yeah, right, go ahead. So more
Speaker 1: New York questions. What do you guys think?
Speaker 2: Well, I've been pondering lately.
Speaker 3: How whenever I'm out, you know, doing spots at night,
Speaker 3: there's always this group of like twenty somethings and they're
Speaker 3: always so eager to just be here, you know, and.
Speaker 2: It's really sweet and I and it makes me reminisce on.
Speaker 2: I miss that energy.
Speaker 4: I don't like my friends and I like, don't drink.
Speaker 2: We stopped drinking. That's really like I had the beer
Speaker 2: last night. But I'm like, wow, I really loved drinking.
Speaker 3: But then I look back at all the time the
Speaker 3: fun I had, I was just getting so fucked up
Speaker 3: that I couldn't realize I wasn't having fun.
Speaker 1: Well, do you feel like, like as I do, that
Speaker 1: I missed the fentanyl wave. I really think that I
Speaker 1: would have that would have really, you know, I also
Speaker 1: think that the ones that we see in New York.
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize this when I was young, but
Speaker 1: there's like, you know, these young kids are the winners.
Speaker 1: A lot of them went to really good schools. They're
Speaker 1: from money. They either like have a nice place or
Speaker 1: share it with like a roommate, and they have like futures.
Speaker 1: They have great jobs and they and they've also never
Speaker 1: failed yet, so they kind of like a walking around
Speaker 1: in this like hey, you know, it's world.
Speaker 4: And that's the definitely the attitude they have.
Speaker 2: When you were young, did you feel like you didn't
Speaker 2: have a future, Like when's the first time you saw
Speaker 2: a future for yourself?
Speaker 1: When I walked through that door? What's missing on this podcast?
Speaker 1: Creepy Wingman crept about comedy.
Speaker 4: You want to be creepy because you really want to
Speaker 4: be creepy and you're not.
Speaker 2: You want to identify why I showered.
Speaker 1: I don't do those wipes that are big with your
Speaker 1: your generation. Yeah, you have time to shower anymore. Is
Speaker 1: that what it is with the wipe?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Why so busy because we away from ourselves.
Speaker 2: Know what else we gonna do anyway?
Speaker 1: Just what I want to say is that back in
Speaker 1: the day of comedy in the eighties, during the comedy
Speaker 1: a drought because this is the boom, so that was
Speaker 1: like when it was falling apart. And I used to
Speaker 1: play a club on forty third and between ninth and
Speaker 1: tenth and Hell's Kitchen called the Improv, which is now
Speaker 1: Don Giovanni's.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a restaurant.
Speaker 1: It is a great one. And if you go in
Speaker 1: that Don Giovanni's, just see a little plaque on the wall.
Speaker 1: This used to be like the birth of comedy. You
Speaker 1: can go in there, you could sit by, so if
Speaker 1: you want to go.
Speaker 2: That restaurant helped me through comedy because they had like
Speaker 2: a really good like pasta salad deal. Me and Frank
Speaker 2: used to go all the time because it was like
Speaker 2: a real meal, but it was affordable.
Speaker 1: We have one of my birthdays there. Everybody was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, this is sad, but it's fun.
Speaker 2: It's good. I'm curious.
Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of comics that we know
Speaker 3: that got sober, and I got to see them both
Speaker 3: drunk and sober.
Speaker 2: But I've only known you sober.
Speaker 4: What is drunk?
Speaker 2: Dave like like drink for that show?
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, I drank a lot of Jaeger and
Speaker 1: whisky and all that kind of stuff. But I'm also
Speaker 1: from Long Island, so drinking earlier.
Speaker 4: But since you were like ten, likely in.
Speaker 1: The fourteen yeah, yeah, you know, the boorn Mintzville was
Speaker 1: kind of the start of it. I guess I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I would say that those days, like, honestly, booze
Speaker 1: is one thing. Every comic now has their own tequila
Speaker 1: or vodka. So what are you guys? What are you
Speaker 1: guys rolling with?
Speaker 4: Like what our drink of choice?
Speaker 1: No, Like, if you're going.
Speaker 2: To create a brand like Sam and Mark, they have
Speaker 2: a they have a liquor, yeah, but we take a cats.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they have their own. I believe it's a
Speaker 1: it was vodka or something.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought it was a brown rage but whatever,
Speaker 2: it's cool as tequila. They're like Kylie Junner, tequila.
Speaker 1: Is crowded field, It's it's very crowded. You got up
Speaker 1: against George Clooney.
Speaker 3: I would call my tequila like pussy juice nice, you know,
Speaker 3: something like that could a hook.
Speaker 1: Let's do mean it, let's get that. Let's buy that today?
Speaker 2: Yeah right now? Yeah, I like that pussy juice with
Speaker 2: lime nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, order but fun to drink.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, lick it up.
Speaker 2: But some wait, but you.
Speaker 1: Were part uh no, I mean we bar drunks mostly. Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 1: New York had a lot of great bars then where
Speaker 1: it was just like going in beer and shot it.
Speaker 1: But I think, you know, this is before Soho House
Speaker 1: and all that kind of Uh, there's always a late
Speaker 1: night feel here, and that was why a lot of
Speaker 1: people lived in New York is that, you know, there
Speaker 1: was the bar and then there was the after party
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. So that's what going on.
Speaker 1: I assume it would anymore. Though.
Speaker 2: I used to know the place to stay out until
Speaker 2: seven in the morning regularly, Like I was pretty big partier.
Speaker 2: And now it's like everything closes that too. Since Yeah,
Speaker 2: post COVID, I used to really blows.
Speaker 3: I used to hang out at Fat Block Pussy Got
Speaker 3: until like five in the morning all the time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's but that's kind of like a half club too,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah that's true.
Speaker 1: But I guess I assume ount in Brooklyn or something
Speaker 1: like that. There's probably something like that going on.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm sure there' probably something going on somewhere, but
Speaker 2: I don't know where it is.
Speaker 3: I'm not using like I'm not going out to party,
Speaker 3: but I'm also not using that time to sleep.
Speaker 2: I'm just at home alone. Up. Yeah, that's blows.
Speaker 1: Once you're like I can't Yeah, that's me. I'm never
Speaker 1: what do you.
Speaker 2: Do with that time?
Speaker 3: And it's like, God, you got to figure out what
Speaker 3: to do. And I like, I'll read and then I'm like, that's.
Speaker 1: Good if you can read.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I watch documentaries with no endings and just like crazy
Speaker 1: stuff and with no ending try and also throw things out.
Speaker 1: I think that's always fun.
Speaker 4: Later, it doesn't that feel noisy?
Speaker 2: Like I like to clean late at night too, but
Speaker 2: I feel like sometimes the cleaning and the going through
Speaker 2: the closet gets too noisy. Living in an apartment, You're
Speaker 2: a good neighbor, Yeah, we are.
Speaker 3: I'd never considered. The only thing I won't do it
Speaker 3: late at night is vacuum. I'll do everything I.
Speaker 1: Do that I do laundrelate at night too, and that's
Speaker 1: very like it's almost like therapy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no one's clean clean stuff for tomorrow. I've ever
Speaker 2: done my own laundry. I don't even know how to
Speaker 2: work the machine.
Speaker 1: Wow, A one of those scared street camps.
Speaker 2: Responsibility, grow up.
Speaker 1: I don't have any fun.
Speaker 2: It didn't seem like you did, like I spent last week.
Speaker 2: You're fine, like your ati.
Speaker 1: I love hanging. I love the comedy hang. I think
Speaker 1: that's one thing we can all agree on that. Like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's two parts of the job. One of
Speaker 1: them is the doing the comedy and the other one's
Speaker 1: getting to hang with comics.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people listening in there are
Speaker 1: comedy fans right now. You've got some super fans, and
Speaker 1: they get it that we all kind of get each
Speaker 1: other and it's always fun to hang and like talk
Speaker 1: material and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you get a lot of writing done.
Speaker 1: You know. I would say that that's the cool of
Speaker 1: New York, where it's like, you know, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of comics here, but there's also like a lot of
Speaker 1: a community, you know what I'm saying, kind of a thing,
Speaker 1: and as an old man of the community, it's great.
Speaker 4: You're o father like.
Speaker 1: On the movie The Beach, you know, I'm like that
Speaker 1: woman who kind of says the rules.
Speaker 2: Yeah, who gets kidnapped or whatever?
Speaker 1: I forget. It's been a while, right.
Speaker 2: When was the last time you were on a vacation.
Speaker 1: I don't do that.
Speaker 2: I didn't think.
Speaker 1: I get on a plane when I land. I want money. Okay,
Speaker 1: how about you guys.
Speaker 2: I travel internationally for vacation. I agree a domestic travel
Speaker 2: has been ruined by comedy. Yeah, I'm not going anywhere
Speaker 2: like some people, and by means their weddings. This thing
Speaker 2: has been people have. This thing has been happening to
Speaker 2: me lately. I think it's because I'm like single in
Speaker 2: my late thirties, where people asked me to be their
Speaker 2: plus one to a wedding. I don't know the person
Speaker 2: getting married, and they act like this is some kind
Speaker 2: of an opportunity for me and I I would rather
Speaker 2: shovel horseman or for free. Yeah, exactly what.
Speaker 1: We should have been talking about from the beginning.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 1: You know, Louis Kat's very funny guy, work with them
Speaker 1: all time, close.
Speaker 2: Friend Herey especially just killed it.
Speaker 1: Yes, he has a special on YouTube. Check it out,
Speaker 1: very very cool. Yeah, and uh he got married and
Speaker 1: uh in La to great lady, great lady, and like
Speaker 1: that's where he's from. So I get it. But he
Speaker 1: got married on fourth of July, the worst travel weekend.
Speaker 1: And I keep going back and forth like I don't
Speaker 1: know if I can get out there, and I gotta
Speaker 1: get out there. I mean, I've been working with this
Speaker 1: guy and you know, I got to go and he's
Speaker 1: a friend. So it was like the worst travel weekend,
Speaker 1: and like I constantly would throw it in his face,
Speaker 1: like yeah, why why now? Why for the July? What
Speaker 1: about New Year's Eve? Why couldn't we do it on
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve? Yeah, I know, I'm saying, oh.
Speaker 4: Okay, I thought you had lost your mind for a second.
Speaker 1: And then I said to him, I go, you know,
Speaker 1: why even have a wedding?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: And then you have a party and you can people
Speaker 1: can zoom in, you know, like in and out.
Speaker 4: You should have offered to zoom into his web.
Speaker 2: That would have been great because it's like you don't
Speaker 2: want to put your friends.
Speaker 3: You don't want to make your like your friend is
Speaker 3: essentially going, I'm going to have to force myself to
Speaker 3: go to this thing that I don't want to go
Speaker 3: to because I don't want this person to get mad
Speaker 3: at me.
Speaker 1: Well, I hate to say it, but I have a
Speaker 1: lot of experiences because in my twenties to make money
Speaker 1: I used to work as a wedding photographer's assistant.
Speaker 2: Really that's a job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would do the batteries and hold the light.
Speaker 1: That guy. I saw a million weddings and how like
Speaker 1: how like intricate and like how how much stress the
Speaker 1: people are. Plus my parents owned a bridle shop, so
Speaker 1: I worked there. I'm on this whole side of the business. Wow,
Speaker 1: for the amount of intensity and money that goes into it,
Speaker 1: you could just have a party and you would like
Speaker 1: have a better time.
Speaker 2: That kills me is they're spending so much money to
Speaker 2: do something that's not at all unique, like as an artist.
Speaker 2: Like to me, the most hack done template thing is
Speaker 2: a wedding, even interesting weddings or second is take.
Speaker 1: Through what would be your plan? Go ahead for my wedding?
Speaker 1: You want? Okay, let's say you had to go ahead.
Speaker 3: I have my wedding to be an immersive theater experience
Speaker 3: immersive theater. Okay, it's an interactive theater, so it's like
Speaker 3: choose your own adventure and there's sets.
Speaker 2: It's yeah. I want my wedding to be a spectacle, really,
Speaker 2: but not to celebrate my love. I just wanted to
Speaker 2: be a cool immersive theater.
Speaker 1: Show smash room. Maybe people walk in and oh.
Speaker 2: Like in a wrecking room.
Speaker 3: I thought I thought you were referring to like an orgy. No, yeah,
Speaker 3: because I wouldn't want that.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just want it to be like a weird I
Speaker 4: would want to be weird.
Speaker 1: What would people eat?
Speaker 2: I would I would reimagine my favorite food as child
Speaker 2: in an adult, like peanut butter and jelly, like a
Speaker 2: or a version of my favorite. That's great, that's a
Speaker 2: great man.
Speaker 1: Would you have a wedding cake?
Speaker 2: Not only cake?
Speaker 1: How about cupcakes?
Speaker 4: Not only cupcakes?
Speaker 1: I'm glad you said no to that, because if I
Speaker 1: go to a wedding there's cupcakes there, I'm like, what's
Speaker 1: going on? Is this like a hospital wedding or something
Speaker 1: that someone gonna die? What happened?
Speaker 4: What is your preferred dessert.
Speaker 1: I like a big old wedding cake. That's great, okay,
Speaker 1: and then you put smash them in somebody's face. You
Speaker 1: know that you can't do that.
Speaker 2: You like the smashing of the cake.
Speaker 1: Well, it seems to be the thing that gets the
Speaker 1: most clicks.
Speaker 4: It's all about clicks.
Speaker 1: Would you write your own vows?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: In what language? Cling on?
Speaker 2: What would you Mandin and I would learn it to
Speaker 2: an old valaria? Well by Colin and I have joked
Speaker 2: like we want to.
Speaker 3: We basically want to if we were ever to get married,
Speaker 3: we want the whole thing to be a joke, like
Speaker 3: and none of it's none of it's serious.
Speaker 4: We would have a dog bar so people could bring
Speaker 4: your dog dog.
Speaker 1: To the wedding. And there's like dogs have to dress up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think so. And then all the
Speaker 2: men have to wear one of the dumb and dumber tuxes,
Speaker 2: either the red or the orange of the blue. And
Speaker 2: then the women had to wear a dress from the
Speaker 2: bridesmaids movies.
Speaker 4: Wow, yeah right he is.
Speaker 1: Yes, wear like a kilt or something like that.
Speaker 2: No, he probably people from Yeah, I know that's meanless Scottish,
Speaker 2: but yeah's great about him.
Speaker 1: He's a great guy. By the way, here is that
Speaker 1: you already have the band booked.
Speaker 4: Because musical that would be fun.
Speaker 1: That's going to save you thousands.
Speaker 3: Everyone has a job to do, and he has so
Speaker 3: many friends that own bars like beautiful venues in the city.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I think we get married for free.
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna throw this out there, and this might
Speaker 1: be better for your d reimagining deconstructing the wedding. How
Speaker 1: about do it in the round, wedding around that sounds
Speaker 1: constantly turning, constantly around, you know, and that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Speed it up.
Speaker 2: Okay, it'll be very busy at the end. Well, we've
Speaker 2: talked about I forget which which guest it was, Oh no,
Speaker 2: maybe dance and Jermaine about how when comics worlds the
Speaker 2: center of attention when we go on stage and stuff,
Speaker 2: so like a wedding to us, we're like more.
Speaker 1: Of this because we're shut down, introverted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're selfish like that.
Speaker 2: That It sounds exciting for me, is the vows part.
Speaker 2: But that's just really doing stand ups.
Speaker 1: Now, would you do him standing or on city bikes?
Speaker 4: I would Oh, I love a dockt city bike.
Speaker 2: We do, like a stationary bike, but it's just one
Speaker 2: singular city bike docked and he's.
Speaker 1: He's holding you or you're holding yeah, yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I would Would you do the Vegas? Would
Speaker 1: you do?
Speaker 2: I hate Vegas in Vegas and I everything.
Speaker 1: About brides parties. It's like it's it's been taken over
Speaker 1: by other things. Now here's what I'm going to throw
Speaker 1: this out too. Would you do an outdoor ceremony? Because
Speaker 1: I've been to a bunch of those the cheap, But that's.
Speaker 2: Also a gamble with the weather. I don't want to
Speaker 2: stress about the rain stuff and the wind and then
Speaker 2: all your hair is blowing in yours. You put a
Speaker 2: lot of work into it with these curls, not ducks.
Speaker 1: It's always an attack of up at something.
Speaker 4: You saw one Instagram.
Speaker 3: I saw an Instagram reel of a woman getting married
Speaker 3: outdoors at a lake and a bear was eating a
Speaker 3: moose during their vows.
Speaker 2: Moose was screaming.
Speaker 1: It was that would be my luck? Terrific?
Speaker 2: You almost Oh, okay, have you ever been engaged or
Speaker 2: thought about and proposing?
Speaker 1: But I really wanted kids, but I don't think that's
Speaker 1: going to happen.
Speaker 2: Now it could still happen.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're look at any this could happen.
Speaker 2: You're so much under right.
Speaker 1: I'm too young to have them still exactly ways I
Speaker 1: should really think about it. Yeah them, I think I would.
Speaker 1: I think it would be too because I already have
Speaker 1: my backup plan, which is, uh, you know, me and
Speaker 1: my child, we work a food truck.
Speaker 4: Yeah, make the kid work from John David.
Speaker 1: Them, because I don't know what they'll be right, you
Speaker 1: know now I'm going to teach them. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to send them to school. He'll learn on the subways.
Speaker 1: He'll just go on the subway and learn how to
Speaker 1: fight and talk and sing.
Speaker 2: That would be fun. You think you could be part
Speaker 2: of your act?
Speaker 4: How about you adopted it and be a single dad?
Speaker 1: I don't think you can. I don't think. I think
Speaker 1: people think adoption it's a lot harder. As don't think
Speaker 1: a dog is tough.
Speaker 2: Now, adoption is difficult. But I feel like being a
Speaker 2: celebrity would be helpful. Not a celebrity, it could be.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm not but I how much fun it is
Speaker 1: through these sitcoms and stuff like how like you know
Speaker 1: he's a widower and he's raised in these three kids.
Speaker 1: It's not I bet it's a lot of work. I bet,
Speaker 1: But I'm just.
Speaker 2: Saying, if you want it, I don't want you to
Speaker 2: not live this lifetime without realizing that dream for yourself.
Speaker 1: I think we all you know, for I better start
Speaker 1: small with a dog. Do you have a dog?
Speaker 2: I do have a dog?
Speaker 1: And how is that going?
Speaker 2: Great? What kind of dog is its?
Speaker 8: You?
Speaker 2: No, he's like he's a rat terrier whipp it mixed
Speaker 2: with old Chihuahua in there. He's actually right here wearing
Speaker 2: a denim Jacket's Christina's dog. This is my dog?
Speaker 1: Wow? I like that. What do you think it was
Speaker 1: the first person to dress up their dog. I mean
Speaker 1: that had to be like a big shock to like
Speaker 1: this is like your dog is wearing a Tierra like.
Speaker 2: I was initially against it, but I never had a
Speaker 2: small dog, and he was. He actually would shiver without
Speaker 2: clothes on.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 2: I love dressing.
Speaker 4: I love dressing my dog.
Speaker 2: So he has to wear like a hoodie, r a
Speaker 2: jacket sometimes the damn one that was a little bit
Speaker 2: more for a handsome boy.
Speaker 1: But I know, do you put them in a dog
Speaker 1: daycare or no?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 2: I usually have him stay with a like a friend
Speaker 2: and I'm on the road. Yeah, the dog. I work
Speaker 2: from home mostly, so that's great.
Speaker 1: Your dog is really lucky. I hope they appreciate it
Speaker 1: because I walked in the.
Speaker 2: Neighborhood like a non brinary dog.
Speaker 1: You ever see like they have a window you can
Speaker 1: look into the door. Sure, and what are they doing in?
Speaker 1: They're having a good time. Now. They're all looking at
Speaker 1: the door waiting for their person to come. It looks
Speaker 1: like they're all like like just waiting. It's like almost
Speaker 1: like you know, they're waiting to see if they get
Speaker 1: to go to Harvard or something. Nervous. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: they walk around in circles like did I get in?
Speaker 1: And they just waiting for the first like the whole time.
Speaker 1: They're just like waiting there the whole time, like a
Speaker 1: dog jail.
Speaker 2: Have you ever had a pet?
Speaker 1: Well, I have had multiple pets, but never as an
Speaker 1: adult because of the road. See, I don't know how
Speaker 1: you do it being on the road with these dogs.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I have my dog a service license, so he comes
Speaker 2: with me on the plane.
Speaker 1: I love that. I love when I get on a
Speaker 1: plane there's a dog on the plane. I'm like, the
Speaker 1: only guy who loves that.
Speaker 2: I really love that too.
Speaker 4: My god, I'm upset. Like when there's a Golden Retriever
Speaker 4: on the plane, that's.
Speaker 1: A big one.
Speaker 4: Holy shit, I love it.
Speaker 1: I like the little ones and the like they're peeking
Speaker 1: out the whole time. Yeah, and then they get really
Speaker 1: nervous and you're like, what is it? Can he feel it?
Speaker 4: This is a boeing, isn't it?
Speaker 1: So one dog?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, like doubling up yet?
Speaker 2: Nah?
Speaker 4: One's enough?
Speaker 1: Is that a tell when you're when you're with a guy,
Speaker 1: if he doesn't like dogs, you're like, it's not gonna work.
Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever met a guy that doesn't
Speaker 2: like dogs. I have my guy who are who feel
Speaker 2: competitive with my dog? Really that's interesting. The dog has
Speaker 2: to get to like him, right, Well, yeah, my dog
Speaker 2: is usually like, well, pretty much like who I like
Speaker 2: after a certain amount of time. And he does like
Speaker 2: men because I guess they're smelly or something. But yeah,
Speaker 2: he I've had boyfriends like be jealous of the amount
Speaker 2: of attention I give my dog. Really not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: I've been jealous about the amount of attention my boyfriend
Speaker 3: gives my dog before. Really haven't said that out loud before.
Speaker 3: Oh thanks for crazy.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Know what the fuck shut the fuck up ers do?
Speaker 1: Well? The dog knows you better than he does usually,
Speaker 1: that's what it is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the dog will go up to My dog
Speaker 2: loves Scott, but my dog is very he he likes Krinn,
Speaker 2: Me and Colin. That's it.
Speaker 4: That's pretty much it.
Speaker 3: Those are the only people that he like will actively
Speaker 3: be excited to go see. But once he got into
Speaker 3: Collin's good grace, it took about a year. So you
Speaker 3: have to really earn earn the trust.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's uh, you know, I could totally say that
Speaker 1: because dogs, you know, they can they can see into
Speaker 1: our souls a little bit, you know, So that's good.
Speaker 2: I really want you to have a dog now, Yeah, baby.
Speaker 1: What other things do you throw.
Speaker 2: With a big Yeah? It's not met are always scooping
Speaker 2: up wives. It doesn't seem hard. I mean.
Speaker 1: It's too fractured. It's too much like a road and
Speaker 1: travel and not much.
Speaker 2: You're running away, Dave, you're running away.
Speaker 1: That is true because plenty of great love.
Speaker 3: It's great when you don't spend a lot of time
Speaker 3: together and you're in a relationship.
Speaker 2: That's amazing how many.
Speaker 1: People put up with that though. I love it, something
Speaker 1: like that's our lifestyle, you.
Speaker 4: Know, because it's like then you're not sick of each other,
Speaker 4: and then when you do get.
Speaker 2: To see each other, you're like, oh, this is nice.
Speaker 4: And then you're like nice.
Speaker 2: Sort of each other.
Speaker 3: Because I don't see each other often, You're like, I
Speaker 3: think this is the way to go. I think it's
Speaker 3: probably unnatural to live with a romantic partner. I think
Speaker 3: that's actually unnatural, really, yeah, And I don't think.
Speaker 2: I've done it.
Speaker 3: It's just you're not You're not meant to have somebody
Speaker 3: in your space all the time.
Speaker 1: It's weird because we don't have straight jobs, you know,
Speaker 1: like we're nine to five. It's a different story. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I would say, my uh, you know, it takes
Speaker 1: up a lot of my time. Is my mom on
Speaker 1: primary care, you know, my mind's demandi and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: so it really takes up a lot of time. And
Speaker 1: you know, God bless her, she's hanging in there. And
Speaker 1: like that's something for you guys to think about. Is that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, enjoy your thirties and forties because when you
Speaker 1: get through your fifties. You know, you're taking care of somebody.
Speaker 1: You know, that's really what it is.
Speaker 2: I already did it. My dad already died. I got it.
Speaker 2: I got a head stars that. Yeah yeah, yeah, well
Speaker 2: I finished that with one parent. But yeah, no, I
Speaker 2: mean it was I broke. I was dating someone right
Speaker 2: after my dad died, and I was like, I can't,
Speaker 2: I gotta feel much I love him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's honestly, it's very depressing. And it's also like,
Speaker 1: you know, you feel for this person because like they're there,
Speaker 1: but they don't know who you are. But did she
Speaker 1: ever really know who I was? We'll be right back.
Speaker 2: Interesting question. My dad didn't have dementia, but so he
Speaker 2: suffered cardiac arrest and after that, when he was resusted,
Speaker 2: he had you know, a lot of brain damage and
Speaker 2: he came back as like an eight year old basically,
Speaker 2: and all his memories were lost.
Speaker 4: So similar kind of thing going on there.
Speaker 2: But what I found really interesting is that he maintained
Speaker 2: his sense of humor.
Speaker 4: Do you find that at all with dementia.
Speaker 1: Jom's an angel, like she really always has been, you know, Like, honestly,
Speaker 1: she's my idea of what a great person is like
Speaker 1: she always volunteered and it was always others before herself.
Speaker 1: She still is that way, and you know, it's just
Speaker 1: it's just very sad that, like, you know, so many
Speaker 1: people want to you know, be with her and and
Speaker 1: and you know, she had hundreds of friends, you know,
Speaker 1: so involved in so many things, and like now she
Speaker 1: doesn't really know who they are, and like it's really
Speaker 1: hard to engage with them when you're sitting there and
Speaker 1: all that. But I would say for her and all
Speaker 1: people out there, especially the other people who are dealing
Speaker 1: with this, is that you're not alone. And music is
Speaker 1: a big thing. Music is with It definitely hits a
Speaker 1: part of the brain that comedy doesn't. But music is
Speaker 1: the thing that like she can sing songs from like
Speaker 1: when she was a child.
Speaker 2: And my dad too. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Really it really is like amazing how that works. How
Speaker 1: your brain will remember music, you do you remember anything?
Speaker 2: And the first thing when I had like a glimmer
Speaker 2: of hope that maybe his like memories would come back,
Speaker 2: is he I played Hey Jude, and he completed the
Speaker 2: lyrics of Hey Jude on his own. Amazing because I started,
Speaker 2: you know, because it was it was kind of coming back,
Speaker 2: Like they said, the childhood memories would come back first,
Speaker 2: so I started with like his favorite band from childhood,
Speaker 2: which would be the Beatles, And then he also remembered
Speaker 2: songs from The Wizard of Oz too.
Speaker 1: It's amazing.
Speaker 2: So I was like that. But then after that comedy
Speaker 2: came back. I mean, like his his he is a
Speaker 2: very funny person and his sense of humor was like back,
Speaker 2: like I always said, he was telling everyone in hospice
Speaker 2: that he owned a porn shop.
Speaker 1: He didn't, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, how you remember
Speaker 1: all of that because that's so important for what he did?
Speaker 2: You know, No, he couldn't. God, I wish no I had.
Speaker 4: I had to figure that out through pieces of his.
Speaker 2: Email and notes and stuff he remember, like he would
Speaker 2: say things about that business, but like in broken pieces
Speaker 2: that didn't make sense to me, like maybe there maybe
Speaker 2: it was something that if I had, I guess known
Speaker 2: or because I know a lot about the business of
Speaker 2: baseball cards, but I don't know like sports. Yeah, well
Speaker 2: I hired someone to do that part.
Speaker 1: But you're a good daughter, you know, because honestly, it
Speaker 1: really is like my sister's another one and my cousin
Speaker 1: and like you know, we have a lot of good
Speaker 1: people like involved, but like I'm the guy paying for
Speaker 1: it and I'm the guy going out there, and sometimes
Speaker 1: there's not much you can do, and it really is
Speaker 1: like Long Island traffic is a sole crushing experience.
Speaker 3: And also just being with a parent who's going through
Speaker 3: that is just hard emotionally.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine.
Speaker 3: That's not like, yeah, my partner's mother is in a
Speaker 3: home for dementia and that we went last Christmas, I think,
Speaker 3: and he brought his guitar and all the sales were
Speaker 3: there and we.
Speaker 4: Were all singing, and she was she just came back
Speaker 4: to life. And I was like, oh my god, that's great.
Speaker 4: It's really fascinating, Like, well can make them different.
Speaker 1: That's so cool that he did that, because yeah, that
Speaker 1: is something they can connect with. But I have were
Speaker 1: in a house with round the clock care and that's
Speaker 1: you know, these people are whoever does that kind of job?
Speaker 1: Can you imagine doing that? Like it's really really difficult,
Speaker 1: and you know, they take really good care of her,
Speaker 1: and like all I can say is that, you know,
Speaker 1: this whole thing of living forever, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know about that.
Speaker 4: I don't think it.
Speaker 1: I mean, my mom was in hospital. The woman next
Speaker 1: to her is one hundred years old, so that's.
Speaker 4: Crazy, right, it's too long, very long.
Speaker 1: If the doctor came in and go, well, our.
Speaker 2: Lifespan too, I mean my ob g y n last
Speaker 2: for my last check up. She was like for someone
Speaker 2: like you, she's like, your lifespans like a hundred. Wow.
Speaker 1: You don't smoke or drink or anything like that, right,
Speaker 1: so you don't have any of those Yeah?
Speaker 2: No, And I was like I was like, okay, well
Speaker 2: that just me smoking. It made me I never never
Speaker 2: wanted a kid. And then I was like, well, I'm
Speaker 2: going to have so much time on that other end
Speaker 2: when I'm not.
Speaker 1: Fucking If you're going to live that long, you should
Speaker 1: get a parrot. You know how long these parts they.
Speaker 4: Will almost would freak me out a little bit. No,
Speaker 4: I almost got a parrot.
Speaker 2: But I'm like, if I wanted to shut.
Speaker 4: Up and it doesn't, I'm gonna be a pissed Now.
Speaker 1: People are dying and their parents like are living.
Speaker 2: On Oh my god, yeah, where do they go?
Speaker 1: When you talk about what you're looking at late at night?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking at.
Speaker 2: These poor parrots.
Speaker 1: Owners are dead and now people take them on. They
Speaker 1: have no idea what their name was sometimes or when
Speaker 1: they're talking about you know, I'm.
Speaker 4: Telling you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but that's a tough that's a tough uh
Speaker 1: yeah to have. You got to give them a lot
Speaker 1: of attention to like little kids.
Speaker 3: Is it hard to not get like like upset with
Speaker 3: a sibling that's not pulling their way even if they can't,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Like everybody can only do what they It's great when
Speaker 1: everybody is involved in it, but like, let's face it,
Speaker 1: it's tough. Further people are away, the more it's hard
Speaker 1: for them to connect. But it's also like puts more
Speaker 1: pressure on the people who are there, you know, That's
Speaker 1: what it is. But to be to be kind to everyone,
Speaker 1: I'd say that everyone is concerned. There's just like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of there's a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: that's done. And that's why I'm very lucky with my sister.
Speaker 1: You know, I think her every time. You know, honestly,
Speaker 1: she's an angel. So you know, it is, it is
Speaker 1: what it is. But I think down down the road,
Speaker 1: like when you guys are you know, a little older,
Speaker 1: a I would probably be more of this like you
Speaker 1: have a thing you put over your parents' head and
Speaker 1: like you know, it makes them look like they're happy,
Speaker 1: and you can walk away and I think they're good.
Speaker 2: You can feel better about your.
Speaker 1: Wondering where you're going have fun.
Speaker 2: I'll be all right there laying their own filters, a
Speaker 2: headset that puts a face filter over them so they
Speaker 2: look like right, right, right? Do you feel a pressure
Speaker 2: like you're not doing enough?
Speaker 1: Always? Really a whole guilt coming at me all the time.
Speaker 2: I see, I did a really good job, Like I
Speaker 2: made sure that I would not feel that like I did.
Speaker 1: I don't doing everything I can.
Speaker 2: And that's wh I know you are. That's why I'm
Speaker 2: asking the country because.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid it might have to come back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you have nothing to be guilty. Yes, where's
Speaker 2: the guilt coming from?
Speaker 1: I just feel like there's always something more where that
Speaker 1: could be done. And it's also, uh, like you said
Speaker 1: about I don't want to leave anyone else hanging, you know,
Speaker 1: I want to do my part right. I would say that,
Speaker 1: like you know, when you're not when you're not living
Speaker 1: with the with the parents, because this is new, the
Speaker 1: fact that like we have parents and a lot of
Speaker 1: my friends have had the same situation where like they
Speaker 1: either brought them into their house, they had a family
Speaker 1: and how difficult that is with somebody with an issue
Speaker 1: like that in a family situation, or they put them
Speaker 1: in like in a facility, which to me, I'm glad.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing I told my sister all the
Speaker 1: time that we didn't do that during the pandemic.
Speaker 2: Because yeah, we went to look at a bunch.
Speaker 1: Of them and we're like no, And I was like,
Speaker 1: I'd rather have round the clock air and it's on me,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm floating the bill. So I'm like, that's
Speaker 1: what we're doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you can rest easy knowing that she's in
Speaker 3: a good facility with good people, because that's the other
Speaker 3: thing if somebody was I don't speak to either of
Speaker 3: my parents, but of course if they were.
Speaker 4: To fail, I would I would.
Speaker 2: Well, that's you know, that's different.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're really an angel, because like if you
Speaker 1: don't have connection with them, now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's you know, it's not whatever, it's mostly
Speaker 2: their stubbornness. But but then like even on that, like
Speaker 2: if they were to fall ill or to get to mention,
Speaker 2: they were in a home and if somebody mistreated them, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'd lose my mind. I would fucking lose.
Speaker 1: Might have to make peace with them before that. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 1: we think differently. Yeah, I believe the earth is round.
Speaker 1: I don't know what their issue is, but kind of
Speaker 1: keep it very yeah. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, no, Well
Speaker 1: are you an only child? Do you have other kids?
Speaker 2: I have an older brother.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, let's also make sure that he's ready to
Speaker 1: go with this too.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we talk about he's he plays a little
Speaker 3: bit of a middleman role now, which I don't want
Speaker 3: him to do at home.
Speaker 2: No, he has his own family, he's got a son,
Speaker 2: he's yeah, but he's My parents stopped getting under his
Speaker 2: skin once he had his son, because I was like,
Speaker 2: how do they want you not to bother you?
Speaker 3: I mean when I'll talk to them, so I don't.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure she would do the thing of
Speaker 3: guess I'm never going to have a grand kid, huh, Like,
Speaker 3: you know, whatever, It's fine.
Speaker 1: It is important to them, I guess.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's also like gives them a chance to like
Speaker 2: redo parenting and be seen as a good person in
Speaker 2: the eyes of a child.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'll tell you this times when we're
Speaker 1: me my sisters have kids either, so we'll be sitting
Speaker 1: with my mom or whatever, or like, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll be sitting with them and the dog becomes the
Speaker 1: center of attention, like how's he doing? Yeah, I already
Speaker 1: had to go to the vet because there's no kids
Speaker 1: to talk about. It's not like guess who's in college.
Speaker 1: So having children at least gives you conversation starters with
Speaker 1: other people.
Speaker 2: That's the most.
Speaker 1: At the very least, that's what you get. Like I
Speaker 1: got to my kid's not feeling too good, you know,
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff an excuse.
Speaker 2: It's a conversation topic. You can do that with dogs too, though.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I don't know. I'd say, like, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna do a special, people want to hear more about
Speaker 1: your kids than your dog, right, I disagree.
Speaker 4: I've jokes a lot more. I honestly, Joe's.
Speaker 2: Comedians start feeling when they start talking about their kids.
Speaker 4: I agree, So no one wants to hear it.
Speaker 2: Patrice oil them in the room a bit about he
Speaker 2: has about his pit bull, So fucking funny. Yeah, Likeser
Speaker 2: and Gaffagin are good with their kid material. Everyone else
Speaker 2: and I won't I won't need the bad kid material.
Speaker 2: But everyone else went soft when they started talking about
Speaker 2: their kids, and I was like, this is some middle
Speaker 2: aged casino bullshit comedy and I don't want to hear it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I always felt like the crowd themselves are like you know,
Speaker 1: they're they're like away from their kids, but they love
Speaker 1: to hear kind of like, you know, hey, something else
Speaker 1: is going through with That's why I always thought that
Speaker 1: that stuff would kill I can see your side of it.
Speaker 1: I agree with you on that.
Speaker 2: I guess it's also you know, I had only been
Speaker 2: you know, when I was a comedy super fan. You know,
Speaker 2: now I'm in it, but like I was just too
Speaker 2: young to like. I'm like, I don't want to hear
Speaker 2: I want to hear drinking stories and fauchery. I don't
Speaker 2: want to hear how your kid kind of snot like yawn,
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: What you're talking about. But it seems like when you
Speaker 1: do that let's call it the seven o'clock on a
Speaker 1: Saturday show where it's mostly the families.
Speaker 2: You know, like the the couple.
Speaker 1: The couples are coming out, you know, yeah, like they're
Speaker 1: one night, you feel like they want to hear that,
Speaker 1: like you know, I you know, my kid is something,
Speaker 1: you know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is there anything in life that you want to
Speaker 2: do and have it yet?
Speaker 1: M So it's such a great one. I don't know,
Speaker 1: just making noises, thinking, but making noises, know this, lots
Speaker 1: of stuff I'd like to do. I mean the states
Speaker 1: that I haven't even played.
Speaker 2: Yet, which ones?
Speaker 1: Guess Nebraska played it? Montana, no, you caught it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm stand up. Is one of the guys that I
Speaker 1: know is played it contiguously. You got to play like
Speaker 1: halls or like you know, like oil rigs. You gotta
Speaker 1: do that kind of thing. It's a tough one.
Speaker 2: It's it's yeah.
Speaker 1: So I'd like to play Montana, Wyoming. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: playing Mississippi. I'm going to be on bird Store.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I never played there, And then I think, uh I
Speaker 1: played well, I kind of played Puerto Rico. I think
Speaker 1: I'm not a champion Ship, but I played Hawaii.
Speaker 4: You're not exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I remember being there for like the
Speaker 1: us L or something. So I want to say a
Speaker 1: couple of funny jokes, but uh, yeah, Montana Wyoming, I
Speaker 1: played that. The code is. I think so that would
Speaker 1: be all the states and I played Alaska. Have you
Speaker 1: guys been up to Alaska?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: You?
Speaker 1: I really would like it.
Speaker 3: Emailed my agent a list of my manager, a list
Speaker 3: of like places I want to go and a lot
Speaker 3: places like we do historically.
Speaker 4: Well, but I'm like, I want to go to Alaska.
Speaker 4: I want to go to Hawaii, like I want to
Speaker 4: go to all these places.
Speaker 2: Australia, I want to You've never done Australia.
Speaker 1: No, it's too long a flight. Yeah, and I can't
Speaker 1: leave the country. I can leave the country. So it
Speaker 1: would be really like a meltdown on the plane.
Speaker 4: I think that's what I would think.
Speaker 2: Like we have so many fans there and they keep
Speaker 2: saying when are you going? And I go when you
Speaker 2: make Australia closer.
Speaker 3: Or when you just hate me my first class and
Speaker 3: then I can at least walk around way to do it.
Speaker 2: And also if people ask so mental on planes, I'm
Speaker 2: more scared of the I'm not scared of me. I'm
Speaker 2: scared of the other passengerers and how they will start behaving.
Speaker 2: Like on an LA flight, people are acting like mania.
Speaker 2: Really there's always there's just people's behavior is always as bad,
Speaker 2: weird and elevated and not normal reactions to like bay now.
Speaker 4: Things, I can't handle it.
Speaker 2: I don't you do it.
Speaker 1: You go from here to l A, you do some
Speaker 1: shows or whatever. Then you go to Hawaii, okay, Then
Speaker 1: you go to Korea, South Korea, working down to Australia,
Speaker 1: it sounds. Then you go to Thailand or one of
Speaker 1: those places you know. Yeah, okay, I don't know if.
Speaker 2: I'm away from my dog too long already, Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: too long.
Speaker 1: But that's the way that I was thinking, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: I can fly seven hours, I guess, so I was
Speaker 1: like thinking, how could I get down there?
Speaker 2: Fourteen long?
Speaker 1: Fine?
Speaker 4: Fourteen was fine.
Speaker 1: We flew through the USO like it was endless, like
Speaker 1: some of these flights, you know, these are on like
Speaker 1: prop planes. Yeah, holy yeah, what can I tell you?
Speaker 1: Like comis so international now, Yeah, when you see that
Speaker 1: at the COMMI celler all the time, it's like comics
Speaker 1: coming for all the world, and like the audience themselves
Speaker 1: are coming from all the world. So this is a
Speaker 1: great time if you love to travel. I was talking
Speaker 1: to a bunch of comics about traveling that like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you can actually get some decent gigs around the world.
Speaker 1: It wasn't always that way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: I was talking to my friend Casey and Robbie, they're
Speaker 3: both comics and they live in my building, and they
Speaker 3: were saying they just got back from Amsterdam.
Speaker 4: They had a woman to organize a tour Amsterdam, Germany.
Speaker 4: We have a lot of fans in Germany.
Speaker 1: Uh, that would be a good one.
Speaker 2: That's don't worry about being a draw. They just arrange
Speaker 2: it and there's a lot of like everybody speaks English, everybody.
Speaker 4: Like and they have like a guaranteed audience.
Speaker 2: It's just like American comic exactly. Yeah, you're not necessarily
Speaker 2: making money, but you're not losing it. You're like a
Speaker 2: little bit breaking.
Speaker 1: That's where that's where I have a problem, because like
Speaker 1: the whole experience of traveling that's great. You know, I'd
Speaker 1: love to go to the museums and the.
Speaker 4: Food, but like I got to make some you want
Speaker 4: to make money.
Speaker 1: I want to make some money. So it's either Deutsch
Speaker 1: Mars or cougarng you know, really, like an international comic.
Speaker 2: What's the number one country that you want to go to?
Speaker 2: Even if it was just for and I know you
Speaker 2: don't like this just for a vacation.
Speaker 1: That's for a vacation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like where's the place.
Speaker 1: I really don't think about it.
Speaker 2: I'm not interested in seeing the world.
Speaker 1: I can't. I would say that, like, you know, I've
Speaker 1: done someplace in the Mid East, but not really the
Speaker 1: fun places, so I would say that it was mostly
Speaker 1: for USO. But I guess I would go to Europe.
Speaker 1: I'd also I'm interested in Eastern Europe.
Speaker 2: Like I think that was Romania and it was incredible.
Speaker 2: He recommend I'm.
Speaker 1: Afraid of going to these places when you're sober, because
Speaker 1: these like it'll be great to get wasted at Dracula's
Speaker 1: palace castle or something like that.
Speaker 4: Pretty great sober too.
Speaker 2: I went with my mom after it was my college
Speaker 2: graduation present. It's I retraced the stuff that they take
Speaker 2: in bram Stoker's Dracula and I actually went to Vlad
Speaker 2: the Impeller's tomb the real law.
Speaker 1: Was it crapy? Was it scary?
Speaker 4: It's not scary.
Speaker 2: It's like gorgeous and phenomenal and kind of mysterious because
Speaker 2: you have to pay like a local person to let
Speaker 2: you canoe across the moat, like it's not easy to
Speaker 2: get to. There's wild dogs everywhere, like I love wild dogs.
Speaker 2: The only bad thing about Romania is the food. Everything
Speaker 2: else is phenomenal. The people are great, the place is great.
Speaker 1: Well maybe Chernobyl, you know, I have that you a
Speaker 1: half in there and then they yeah, but that's cool
Speaker 1: that you like when I can tell what year you
Speaker 1: went to do that, it was before the movie Hostile,
Speaker 1: because I got your tours have dropped off right after that.
Speaker 1: That really kind of hit the whole, like, hey, I
Speaker 1: don't want to end up having my or ganuit harvested.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: I think it was like in two thousand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: How old do you think I am?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I figure you and your mom. You're
Speaker 1: out there doing these castles, right. Did you go to
Speaker 1: Bavaria any of those places? Lithuania?
Speaker 2: No, we just we just did Romania, Luxembourg, nothing. Just
Speaker 2: I wanted to go to Hungary because we're Hungarian. But
Speaker 2: it just worked out that we went on a specific
Speaker 2: tour that was just doing Romania and that was a lot,
Speaker 2: and that was but I would definitely go back.
Speaker 1: But I guess for comedy, I guess you'd want to
Speaker 1: go to England because they have like a love London.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've done that stand up there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I sold out.
Speaker 3: I got to sell out a theater by myself, like
Speaker 3: four hundred and fifty seats or something last time I
Speaker 3: was in London.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And then I tried to do it again
Speaker 2: in Ireland and not as many people in Ireland this,
Speaker 2: but god, that country is beautiful.
Speaker 1: It is really.
Speaker 2: England and Ireland. And then I think Scotland must be.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen Scotland.
Speaker 1: I haven't been there.
Speaker 2: Really, you haven't been to Scotland.
Speaker 1: Festival there too? But too much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard though that's not a good like for comics.
Speaker 4: All the comics that have done it lately there, like.
Speaker 2: Every comic has been like the hell I wanted to
Speaker 2: kill myself.
Speaker 1: Well because it's all and it's a lot of like,
Speaker 1: you know, the same faces coming in kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But now that just for laughs is on pause or down,
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, that used to be like the big
Speaker 1: adventure you go to Montreal or exciting, you know, to
Speaker 1: be more French enough, you know I'm talking about like
Speaker 1: they were like kind of cool, you know, stylish and
Speaker 1: everything like that. Yeah, half models up there a lot
Speaker 1: of half.
Speaker 4: Yeah hot people. A lot of trippers were really hot.
Speaker 1: I thought. I was like, wow, you guys are way
Speaker 1: like this is no you know, this is no, this
Speaker 1: is serious. What you guys do there? Yeah?
Speaker 4: You guys take yourself to see.
Speaker 1: Something in the poutine? Go ahead?
Speaker 2: Oh do you so? Do you feel like you have
Speaker 2: an obsession with working? Like is there ever a world
Speaker 2: work you die? Like Joan Rivers? Or like what are
Speaker 2: we doing here?
Speaker 1: I think that that's like what else are we going
Speaker 1: to do?
Speaker 2: I don't know what else do you want to do?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Is there anything else that you want to do besides work?
Speaker 1: Well, I would like to get a web thing going,
Speaker 1: so like you guys have this great show.
Speaker 2: And the fans work Dave.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like here's the thing, Like, now you're connected
Speaker 1: to these people, you know, so this is like part
Speaker 1: of your part of.
Speaker 2: Your you can what webcam? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: Why don't you guys like involve this.
Speaker 2: You don't have to do that.
Speaker 1: Isn't there levels of that? Like you know, it's like
Speaker 1: a pool.
Speaker 4: There's any tawdry photos.
Speaker 5: I take.
Speaker 1: My part of the world. I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: I want force men to listen to female comedians without
Speaker 2: being nude.
Speaker 4: I feel like this is a very been very.
Speaker 2: Hard for me that way.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that, what about putting the podcast on
Speaker 1: like I did that Dave's old porn show, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: that could probably go on only fans.
Speaker 2: Now, so the Patreon, they don't have to be naked.
Speaker 1: I don't know that.
Speaker 2: No people use it as a Patreon, but I mean
Speaker 2: we have Luminary already, so we're already.
Speaker 1: On I don't even know what that is, so only fans.
Speaker 1: I just really got uh used to.
Speaker 2: Now we're going to isolate that and to be the promo.
Speaker 2: They're going to love that Luminary.
Speaker 1: So this only fans thing?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Correct, you see that as the future. Is this just
Speaker 1: another new thing?
Speaker 2: I think that's going to be around for a long
Speaker 2: time when women are making way too much money for
Speaker 2: that to go anywhere.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, do you really think they're making as much
Speaker 1: money as they're saying, you know, for.
Speaker 3: Seeing the plane seats that they fly, Yes, they are
Speaker 3: making money. They are flying first class to places that
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh girl.
Speaker 2: You got mad.
Speaker 4: We interviewed a girl this was before only fans.
Speaker 3: She sold her poopa a tupperware container a couple of times,
Speaker 3: and she jarred her. No, she wasn't the farkle. She's
Speaker 3: sold something else, like pee or something. Anyway, she has
Speaker 3: two homes. She owns two homes.
Speaker 2: Wow, And I'm like.
Speaker 1: Damn, that is incredible.
Speaker 2: Being a woman means that, like all the things that
Speaker 2: we do for free on a daily basis, we could
Speaker 2: get paid for some dude will pay for it. Underwear, socks, panty, hilt,
Speaker 2: clothe anything yelling saying you pay for me, you pig,
Speaker 2: or something like you don't mean like anything too much? Yeah,
Speaker 2: note to pay pick culture.
Speaker 1: But I guess I thanks for the wake up calling
Speaker 1: this only.
Speaker 4: It's not going away an opportunity for women.
Speaker 1: I was thinking of myself as a second chapter.
Speaker 2: I love that for you about like if we could
Speaker 2: just cat like in.
Speaker 4: The middle of the night with Dave.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'll be saves cam show you sitting but grudgingly
Speaker 2: at your desk chair.
Speaker 1: No, just red eyes staring back in the darkness.
Speaker 2: Especially Millennials, because we associate with you with nighttime because
Speaker 2: we all watched it insomniacs. So now you're a little person, right, yeah,
Speaker 2: and then so then now you're still in our homes again,
Speaker 2: but we have families now some of us.
Speaker 1: Well I think that's uh, that's great and to the
Speaker 1: fans out there, thanks for the support. But uh, this
Speaker 1: only fans thing. I don't know. I guess that I
Speaker 1: could totally see both sides of it now, you know,
Speaker 1: because I was like, when does this get funny? Because
Speaker 1: now it's all about this kind of like porn, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of grab you know, like a gold rush kind
Speaker 1: of thing. So when does it get funny? And I
Speaker 1: guess it will never be like a TikTok, you know,
Speaker 1: people want to see that.
Speaker 4: I think it was only fans ever meant to be
Speaker 4: anything other than sexual.
Speaker 1: Well show, it's an expression.
Speaker 2: They just produced comedy specials for like a bunch of
Speaker 2: younger comics in New York, just Whitney did. Whitney Cummings
Speaker 2: did something with them. Well she did, like the younger comics,
Speaker 2: Like I think was it. There's two girls I mixed
Speaker 2: up on. I didn name their names, but like, yeah,
Speaker 2: one of them I just did a special who's like
Speaker 2: kind of like an up and coming very okay, So
Speaker 2: maybe they're trying to branch out on Instagram and TikTok yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I see. Well, you know what, Hey, if a woman
Speaker 1: wanted to try new things. But let's face it, comedy
Speaker 1: is comedy, am I right? Stick to your guns.
Speaker 2: I agree. If a woman wanted to pay you for nudes,
Speaker 2: would you do it?
Speaker 1: No? I wouldn't do it. Yeah, I wouldn't do it
Speaker 1: because you know what, first of all, that's just the
Speaker 1: beginning of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then I got to listen to her. Then I got
Speaker 1: to read her screenplay. N Then I got to give
Speaker 1: her feedback.
Speaker 2: She wants a punch notes on the notes.
Speaker 1: She wants punch up now on these ship I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's face it, everybody loves when someone sends
Speaker 1: them as a sexy pick.
Speaker 3: Yeah, although like with women, it's hard for guys, like
Speaker 3: we don't want Like, guys can get a sexy pick, but.
Speaker 4: It takes a lot.
Speaker 2: I don't think they have the brains speaker.
Speaker 1: For you girls right now about this whole thing. Then
Speaker 1: you would look at a good dick pic as long
Speaker 1: as it's not coming from your own house, like how
Speaker 1: did you get in there? I like more body, yeah,
Speaker 1: you more erotic man, just.
Speaker 4: The dick isolated alone. She doesn't doesn't do it.
Speaker 2: For me story, But you wouldn't want to see you
Speaker 2: wouldn't well, you wouldn't Well, maybe you would get a.
Speaker 1: Yes. Then you could fantasize the other parts.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's maybe that's the thing that draws you in
Speaker 2: the most, that you can make it up and fill
Speaker 2: in the blanks.
Speaker 1: But I like vintage, classic shots like from the Playboy Penhouse.
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, and I think there's a sexy
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a filter or something like
Speaker 1: that that you don't see much in these times.
Speaker 4: Enty's photograph.
Speaker 2: Photography was very specific and seventies Playboy specifically. It was
Speaker 2: very glossy.
Speaker 1: The last time you actually saw both sides of a
Speaker 1: because then they stopped doing that, Like you never saw
Speaker 1: the back end of anybody anymore. It all became just
Speaker 1: this kind of like pictorial like layout like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so, no, nothing like that. Well, have
Speaker 2: you ever seen like really at the Museum of Sex.
Speaker 2: I went, like, you know, ten years ago, and they
Speaker 2: had a part of the exhibit was like really vintage.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about like eighteen hundreds like that. We just
Speaker 2: oh wow, people lifting their petty coat up. Have you
Speaker 2: seen that?
Speaker 4: I thought that was I've seen that, Yes, that was pornographic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, lofting their petty coat up and like your but
Speaker 2: you see bush.
Speaker 1: Yeah that thing where you can move in and it's
Speaker 1: someone women the naked Yeah.
Speaker 2: Right, right right, it's like I mean, just historically, it's
Speaker 2: always been interesting for us to see naked women. Honestly,
Speaker 2: I love I talk about it all the time. Do
Speaker 2: you know Sidney Sweeney is her brebies? Like? What do
Speaker 2: you like her about her acting?
Speaker 6: There?
Speaker 1: No, no, I know he's talking about but I've never
Speaker 1: seen that shirt.
Speaker 2: Her breasts put me in a good mood. Yeah, she's
Speaker 2: but her tits And I'm like, I totally get how
Speaker 2: like that I am how how I feel.
Speaker 3: Towards Sidney Sweeney's boobies, or how I guess how men
Speaker 3: feel straight men feel towards breast in general?
Speaker 4: They make Yeah, obviously.
Speaker 2: They make my day better. Really, what part of a
Speaker 2: woman do you like the best?
Speaker 1: I think everything you're saying is good, and I think
Speaker 1: that she really is she remember reading she said she
Speaker 1: said when she was younger, she felt like self conscious
Speaker 1: and that she's so glad that she you know, like
Speaker 1: lived up to with them. Yeah, like I mean honestly.
Speaker 2: She leaned into the tits.
Speaker 1: But for a while there it was like more of
Speaker 1: a people wanted more of a what is it called,
Speaker 1: like like no curves, that weird like that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: But I always held out for the boobs, you know.
Speaker 1: But I was like, I'm not like a big badanka doom,
Speaker 1: you know, a big butt, Like, I'm not that guy.
Speaker 1: And I always see those people on how comfortable they
Speaker 1: are with their butts, like they're everywhere. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: almost like you know, you know, the butt is another
Speaker 1: person that somehow is attached to them and it's everywhere,
Speaker 1: and like.
Speaker 2: Wow, a lot of fake butts now And you said
Speaker 2: never see them or maybe I couldn't tell, but now,
Speaker 2: oh I could tell fake as hell, which you know whatever.
Speaker 1: But a lot of guys are into.
Speaker 2: That, I guess. So yeah, but it looks a butt man,
Speaker 2: a butt man. Yeah though, yeah mine too.
Speaker 4: What any work done?
Speaker 1: No, not yet. I'm thinking about getting my knee done.
Speaker 1: I had my shoulder them these were like had to do.
Speaker 1: But yeah, job, I think it's gonna have.
Speaker 3: To be what it is'd be hilarious if you just
Speaker 3: got a nose job like well, I was.
Speaker 1: Thinking of my mom with the demension. Whennamigation comes out,
Speaker 1: she's got a new rack. Oh now, look, who could talk?
Speaker 1: I know that you'd be like, oh well, I gotta.
Speaker 2: Get out tree.
Speaker 1: Where did these come from?
Speaker 6: Mom?
Speaker 4: You were dying because we go, well, that is true
Speaker 4: that I love that.
Speaker 1: That's every man's dream. You can't remember there.
Speaker 2: It is good. I think it hits on a lot
Speaker 2: of things that we need to talk about, taking taking
Speaker 2: care of older women, you know, and boo boobies and
Speaker 2: this is beautiful?
Speaker 4: Did you ever think about getting a nose job?
Speaker 1: Really? Really? Okay? I was ugly as a boy and
Speaker 1: I'm ugly as a man, and I dealt with it
Speaker 1: years ago. I'm bald, I'm ugly.
Speaker 4: How do I deal with How did you actually deal
Speaker 4: with it?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: Did you go to therapy or something?
Speaker 1: No, but most of the wall told you what you
Speaker 1: were and you either dealt with it. Okay, you drank
Speaker 1: yourself Okay.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, Wow, you're del.
Speaker 1: In the wellness world of you know, all the wellness
Speaker 1: of course, you can't even think about that, you.
Speaker 2: Know, it isn'tnoying that you can't say anything disparaging about
Speaker 2: yourself it's like, let me have fun, let me live.
Speaker 1: I'm very, I'm very I've made peace with it. Fine,
Speaker 1: like when it's fifteen, I'm never going to be who
Speaker 1: was a big actor at the time.
Speaker 2: So and you're fine, And then you just decided to
Speaker 2: tell jokes.
Speaker 1: No, I this was not my dream to be a
Speaker 1: comical Back then. I didn't think this was my job.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is something I'm doing before I
Speaker 1: get a real job. You know, That's what I thought.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought I was going to join the navy.
Speaker 1: I had other jobs. I had all these different things
Speaker 1: going on, and I kept giving myself another year, another year,
Speaker 1: another year, and then like you know, I did open
Speaker 1: Mike forever, but I had day jobs all the way through.
Speaker 1: Whereas that's pretty amazing with these comics now where they
Speaker 1: can monetize their clips or something like that, so they
Speaker 1: never have a day job. That's that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: So that you were just so undeniably good that you
Speaker 2: had to be a comedian.
Speaker 1: No, I was not good. I was not good for
Speaker 1: a long long time. But your class has been proven
Speaker 1: of it, and I'm still figuring it out. No, I
Speaker 1: don't think I don't think you know, I didn't feel
Speaker 1: comfortable doing it for the first seven six seven years
Speaker 1: doing it.
Speaker 2: You know, every shall under under three years into the game, I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
Speaker 2: Let's roll the love for documentary. No, no, no, do you
Speaker 2: remember he like that was one of my very close
Speaker 2: friends and he makes fun of himself, but he like
Speaker 2: it was like three years into comedy and he made
Speaker 2: like a documentary about no way serious. Yeah. I know
Speaker 2: that he's older. He just did an episode of his
Speaker 2: podcast roasting it. But like hesus, it was very serious
Speaker 2: at the debut.
Speaker 1: But these people have every set now on tape, which
Speaker 1: is kind of terrifying if you think about it. You know,
Speaker 1: if it leaks, well, no, just just that I think
Speaker 1: the web right away and then yea, even even their
Speaker 1: crowd work sets are up there out there, so there's
Speaker 1: really no like, oh I don't remember that one. It's
Speaker 1: like they're all up there. You know. It's like it's
Speaker 1: pretty amazing. I wouldn't do that, you know. I was
Speaker 1: terrible for so long and I'm still terrible pretty much
Speaker 1: every other time. So I like it. I like the
Speaker 1: think that, like, you know, each one is like you know,
Speaker 1: you're training for the next one.
Speaker 2: You know, have you ever done a show and you
Speaker 2: thought I was good?
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. I would say there's always like that,
Speaker 1: like man, I wish I had told this one, or
Speaker 1: like man, that crowd was really good and I had
Speaker 1: them and I should have taken this, you know. And
Speaker 1: then you know, sometimes I always coward out where it's
Speaker 1: like I really wanted to tell that joke and I
Speaker 1: was like afraid, you know, with the filter up, that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But I love what I do, the job,
Speaker 1: and I also to be honest as an old, unrelevant
Speaker 1: person following some of the new people. You know, it's
Speaker 1: really kind of you know, it's really like to see
Speaker 1: if I can do it, you know, because at some point,
Speaker 1: you know, it's just like you know, you could see
Speaker 1: it in the eyes of the young crowd, like I
Speaker 1: think we've been here too long. They're letting up everyone.
Speaker 2: Now, you know, like talk, I know, fuck, when do
Speaker 2: you feel sexy?
Speaker 1: What when do I feel sexy? Do you guys really
Speaker 1: do that I feel very sexy to like ask right
Speaker 1: to horny.
Speaker 2: Don't think a lot of them, but sometimes they'll they'll
Speaker 2: they'll give up various answers, but yeah, they're there. It's
Speaker 2: they're never expecting that question, because that's interesting that well,
Speaker 2: I never I guess when I'm doing a pull up,
Speaker 2: like wow, I'm really like, you know, watch out, ladies.
Speaker 2: Are you doing a lot of pull ups?
Speaker 1: I'm trying yeah really yeah, I had a shoulder Injuram.
Speaker 2: Now I'm trying to like, yeah, maybe that you're gonna
Speaker 2: have yeah my.
Speaker 1: Son, or to hang off a ledge somewhere and talk
Speaker 1: me down. But I was going to say, so guys
Speaker 1: feel sexy, like, well, I guess yeah, usually, which I
Speaker 1: know what kind of guy it is too. It's the
Speaker 1: guy who wears shoes with no socks. That guy has
Speaker 1: to feel that way. Like I feel a little sexy,
Speaker 1: but I also have like a like a stomach issue today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's that guy.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Or also like when they're they feel sexy when they're
Speaker 3: doing their job well.
Speaker 4: For comedy, yeah, or providing your money.
Speaker 1: I think that you're your guy is sexy and he's
Speaker 1: a musician. So that's the double whammy.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I never asked him when he feels
Speaker 2: sexy because I just know because I can tell it's like.
Speaker 1: Both he has both things and it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I met a guy. He's really tall, but he's a magician. Okay,
Speaker 1: well that takes itches off of him. So that's what
Speaker 1: I think. I don't know. I do know one thing,
Speaker 1: like when I get off the because I don't usually
Speaker 1: tug went out on the road, you know pretty much
Speaker 1: really keep it, keep it all, you know, like keep
Speaker 1: the game face going, you know fight. Wow, it's old.
Speaker 1: But then I went home, I'm like, I can't wait.
Speaker 2: To like just mess really.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's my own bed.
Speaker 2: More fun in a hotel.
Speaker 1: Though, no, not that it isn't.
Speaker 2: And depending on the smells, I'm very sensitive to smells.
Speaker 2: It smells weird. I'm like, I can't there are weird
Speaker 2: smelly hotel shittier hotels. Yeah, mustiness.
Speaker 4: You gotta go to a kid and they smell nice.
Speaker 4: Kimpton smell Kimpton.
Speaker 2: They have a they have a the scent signature scent
Speaker 2: in the hallway.
Speaker 1: I don't like when, like when you go into a
Speaker 1: casino and they have that like weird cover smell for
Speaker 1: everyone said.
Speaker 2: That's incense. No, the Kington has like a citrusy something
Speaker 2: like in the hallways. That's nice but not overly perfume do.
Speaker 1: They also have a in the lobby a jug of
Speaker 1: water with oranges and.
Speaker 2: The dogs and they'll give you a dog bed because
Speaker 2: like you know, on the road and you'll know this
Speaker 2: when you adopt a dog, which is going to happen soon.
Speaker 2: Is yeah, like there's dog friendly and then there's like
Speaker 2: we put up with your dog. Both, you know, both
Speaker 2: say they accept pets, but like Kimpton, they give you
Speaker 2: a dog bed if you treat some other places to
Speaker 2: just like sign this form and I don't want to
Speaker 2: see this thing and put a sign on your door
Speaker 2: that says I have a dog in here so our
Speaker 2: staff doesn't have to deal with your dog. That's yeah nice.
Speaker 1: I don't like that little bed that's cut very cute, little.
Speaker 3: God Yeah, green khakis awesome, Yeah, black Cap.
Speaker 2: This is really cute.
Speaker 1: Dog hotel Ever was in Portland, Oregon, where they had
Speaker 1: like a little bowl there and some treats. I'm sure
Speaker 1: the place is burnt to the ground by now.
Speaker 2: You're gonna get a dog.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way, damn. Anyway, Thanks for having me, guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is great, So you're special.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my special is called Hotcross Buns and you'll I
Speaker 1: think it'll I think it's got a little something for everybody,
Speaker 1: and yeah, a lot of jokes, a lot of tricks,
Speaker 1: and I wanted it to be short. Now I want
Speaker 1: to hear your opinion on this. I feel like the
Speaker 1: hour is too long for the audience.
Speaker 2: Now I agree.
Speaker 1: I've watched the special, so I'm a comic. I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to like enjoy every second of watching someone perform their crap.
Speaker 1: I'm also like, this is a long special, Like I
Speaker 1: can't believe it, Like I need a break and this
Speaker 1: person's killing, you know, and I need a break. So
Speaker 1: I felt for the audience, and so I wanted it
Speaker 1: to be like thirty seven minutes. And I thought I
Speaker 1: was like way ahead the game because a lot of
Speaker 1: people have done them in their thirty, like thirty minutes,
Speaker 1: So now I think everybody's doing it also like a
Speaker 1: little a little tighter, which is good for the audience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but now I wish I did only thirty minutes a
Speaker 1: bit even better.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think thirty minutes is a sweet spot because
Speaker 2: you just keep thinking about that special. Yeah, I just
Speaker 2: keep thinking about how you fucked up, and it's seven
Speaker 2: minutes too long, and you're it.
Speaker 1: Could be it could be like thirty seven minutes too long.
Speaker 1: It depends what the audience expect. It doesn't matter. After
Speaker 1: short it is, you know, but I think there's a
Speaker 1: lot of great uh. I did it at Cops in
Speaker 1: San Francisco, one of my fam I love that club,
Speaker 1: and the staff there is awesome. And the guy who
Speaker 1: is really like the hero of the show is the director,
Speaker 1: Scott Gallic, really really fun guy, and he gets me,
Speaker 1: and you know, I feel like he did right by me.
Speaker 1: We only shot two shows. There was a few technical problems,
Speaker 1: of course, but you know, the majority of it is
Speaker 1: is pretty much what I do. You've seen it, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just hoping, you know, like the people enjoy it.
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of comedy fans out there, and
Speaker 1: you guys, of course, thanks for the help on promotion
Speaker 1: and your fans. Honestly, we love like talking to you guys,
Speaker 1: but it's really seeing you at the live show, so yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, at your dates, that's really where it's like
Speaker 1: the real synergy happens. So absolutely seeing how I promoted
Speaker 1: you guys there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've managed to train our listeners to be like
Speaker 3: incredible comedy audience members really truly, Like the first time
Speaker 3: we went on the road, there was a lot of
Speaker 3: rhetorical question asking on our part, and then people.
Speaker 4: Were growing up in the aisles, a lot of drug usage.
Speaker 3: And we had to have a come to Jesus moment
Speaker 3: with our listeners a couple of times, and we're like.
Speaker 4: This we behave at shows. But then it's cool because
Speaker 4: I will have comments.
Speaker 2: On the show. I'm like, oh my god, your fans
Speaker 2: came to my show and and I'm like, yeah, that's wonderful,
Speaker 2: thank you for doing that. Of course, could we do
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