Speaker 1: Hello everybody.
Speaker 2: Welcome into the Fantasy Pros Dynasty Football Podcast. I am
Speaker 2: Ryan Warmley, joined today by Pat Fitzmorris and Scott Bogman Boggs.
Speaker 1: We missed you last week. I was Opening Day. It
Speaker 1: was great.
Speaker 2: I got to see the Diamondbacks historic fourteen run inning.
Speaker 2: I got to see a lot of friends and family
Speaker 2: in Phoenix. So I had a good time. But happy
Speaker 2: to be back and talking football with you guys. Fitz,
Speaker 2: we had a great time last week. We'll have to
Speaker 2: somehow manage bringing Bogs back into the into the fold
Speaker 2: here for this week's episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we were trying not to be resentful of Bogman
Speaker 3: for sitting there and watching baseball, drinking beer, eating hot dogs.
Speaker 3: But you know, we survived. But it's nice to be
Speaker 3: back to the three man weave.
Speaker 2: Of course, let's jump into the episode here, jam packed.
Speaker 2: As always, we're talking by low Sell high dynasty trade
Speaker 2: candidates to revamp your roster. As a quick reminder, all
Speaker 2: of our early twenty twenty four consensus rankings and tiers
Speaker 2: can be found at Fantasypros dot com slash rankings. You
Speaker 2: can also nowavigate from there to our staff Dynasty rankings
Speaker 2: on the site as well. We've got rookie rankings in
Speaker 2: addition to all of that. Let's start with the news
Speaker 2: and notes quickly. There's really one big one. Stefan Diggs
Speaker 2: traded to the Houston Texans. It was a blockbuster yesterday morning.
Speaker 1: Fits. What was your immediate takeaway from seeing this?
Speaker 3: Oh, so many things go into this. I guess worm
Speaker 3: the slight of a slight value hit for Nico Collins
Speaker 3: and Tank Dell, but really the rich get Richer a
Speaker 3: wide receiver. And now, obviously I think the Bills need
Speaker 3: to draft someone, but maybe this offers some a value
Speaker 3: boost to my guy, Khalil Shakir. Mostly, I was just
Speaker 3: thinking about CJ. Stroud and how the people who drafted
Speaker 3: him last year, quite possibly as the third quarterback in
Speaker 3: the rookie drafts behind Anthony Richardson and Bryce Young, they
Speaker 3: just rolled Yatzi with that and it just keeps getting
Speaker 3: better and better. Like Stroud has this terrific season, and
Speaker 3: now they are just going all in on him and
Speaker 3: trying to win this, you know, maybe win a championship
Speaker 3: before his rookie contract expires, and like they've they've got
Speaker 3: to pay Stefan Diggs a lot. I know the Bills
Speaker 3: are eating some of his money, but like they signed
Speaker 3: him to a big four year contract extension two years ago.
Speaker 3: But it times out pretty well for the Texans because
Speaker 3: by the time his contract has expired, that's right around
Speaker 3: the time they'll have to be thinking of extending Stroud,
Speaker 3: and obviously they're gonna give him a ton of money,
Speaker 3: but they don't have to do that yet, and they
Speaker 3: can afford a move like this. I think it makes
Speaker 3: sense for both sides. Bills were pretty cap strapped, they're
Speaker 3: gonna go out and draft a wide receiver, I would imagine.
Speaker 2: Now Stroud was the QB three in all of my
Speaker 2: rookie drafts last year for the record, so a lot
Speaker 2: of people. I was a beneficiary that in a couple
Speaker 2: of leagues getting as late as the one of six,
Speaker 2: even in superflex, So that is certainly to your point,
Speaker 2: something is really paid out for a lot of people. Bogman,
Speaker 2: My first takeaway when I saw this was, you know,
Speaker 2: we've talked a lot about how the clear you know,
Speaker 2: in rookie drafts this year in super Flex, there's a
Speaker 2: very clear top eight. There's tiers within that, but it's
Speaker 2: a clear top eight is number nine. Now, just whichever
Speaker 2: receiver the Bills take in the first round, yeah, probably,
Speaker 2: I mean it has to because I, like Fitz said,
Speaker 2: I don't think they're going to roll with the combo
Speaker 2: of Shakir, Curtis Samuel and Justin Shorter right, So all
Speaker 2: it almost makes it too obvious that they are going
Speaker 2: to be taking a wide receiver in the draft. But
Speaker 2: this is a deep class, so they don't really care.
Speaker 2: They obviously have a lot of wide receivers they like.
Speaker 2: I think Stefan Diggs screaming at Josh Allen on the
Speaker 2: sidelines probably had a lot to do with this move.
Speaker 2: So and it hurts. It hurts Digs a lot, I
Speaker 2: feel like, you know, because he goes to being the
Speaker 2: clear number one, the overwhelming target share guy in Buffalo too.
Speaker 2: Now Niko is gonna get more than him some games.
Speaker 2: Tank might get more than him some games. Saltan Schultz
Speaker 2: was a big part of what CJ. Stroud did last
Speaker 2: year as well, and they brought in Joe Mixon. I
Speaker 2: think this team is having an incredible offseason. They just
Speaker 2: took one of the seconds that Minnesota gave them and
Speaker 2: turned it into Stefan Diggs, So they basically traded A
Speaker 2: one for Digs, A two, A five, and a six.
Speaker 2: I think they're they're doing pretty good this offseason. They
Speaker 2: made some good acquisitions and like Fitz said, this is
Speaker 2: this team super Bowl just got a little better.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you guys real fast, do you think
Speaker 3: if everyone stays healthy next year, Diggs leads this team
Speaker 3: in targets?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say probably, but I think say it'll
Speaker 2: be very close. I was. I was just gonna ask
Speaker 2: how you guys would rank these three. Not for dynasty
Speaker 2: because obviously Digs is much older than the other two,
Speaker 2: but but just for this year going into the season,
Speaker 2: how are you planning to rank these three? Because I
Speaker 2: feel like, depending on the person you ask, you're gonna
Speaker 2: get three wildly different combinations. Probably Dell lower just because
Speaker 2: of the injury, but he looks real good for a stretch.
Speaker 1: There is rookie season.
Speaker 2: Obviously, we know what Nico did last year and what
Speaker 2: Diggs has done in the past before Joe Brady was
Speaker 2: his offensive coordinator, So I like, I think you can
Speaker 2: really make the case in a lot of different directions, right, bagman, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, it is real hard like I just said Diggs.
Speaker 2: But now when you asked me the question, I want
Speaker 2: to say Collins, and I'm probably gonna go with Collins.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I go Collins, Diggs and Tank,
Speaker 2: Like you said, because of the injury and the side,
Speaker 2: there are still sized concerns with Tank. He's a great
Speaker 2: wide receiver, but if he can't stay healthy and that's
Speaker 2: gonna be a theme in his career, that's a concern.
Speaker 2: So I think he has to go third. But uh,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't if you wanted to put him
Speaker 2: ahead of Diggs, I understand too, because Diggs is definitely
Speaker 2: a fading star.
Speaker 1: Fit's the same question, are you ordering those?
Speaker 2: I think that's probably the way most people order it
Speaker 2: is Collins, Diggs, Dell.
Speaker 1: Is that what you would do as well?
Speaker 3: Fits Diggs, Collins delf for me, because I think Diggs
Speaker 3: is gonna demand the ball like there might be the
Speaker 3: diva factor there. But no, I mean I I don't
Speaker 3: think Digs has hit the wall yet, but we still
Speaker 3: have to be at least a little bit concerned about
Speaker 3: the way he ended last season. I mean, like his
Speaker 3: run in Buffalo great overall averaged one hundred and eleven
Speaker 3: catches over thirteen hundred yards nine point three touchdowns a season.
Speaker 3: But last year, in his last ten games of the season,
Speaker 3: including the playoffs, which was from Week ten on, he
Speaker 3: averaged forty two point two yards per game, averaged just
Speaker 3: five point three yards per target, and had one touchdown
Speaker 3: over that ten game stretch. So he we saw some
Speaker 3: major slippage from him late in the season. I think
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to have to answer the question of,
Speaker 3: you know, whether he's still that top dog alpha receiver.
Speaker 2: Last question on this fits I asked about, you know,
Speaker 2: the one oh nine in rookie drafts to Bogman, I
Speaker 2: know you have been a guy who has said you
Speaker 2: think the one to nine is probably Brian Thomas if
Speaker 2: he goes before the Bills can picked and then they
Speaker 2: picked somebody else. Do you think whoever the receiver is
Speaker 2: au Xavier Worry the eighty min'll Troy Franklin and Lad
Speaker 2: mccacky your receiver of choice. Would that person in Buffalo
Speaker 2: be ahead of Brian Thomas and your rankings?
Speaker 3: I think so, Like a lot of people I've I've
Speaker 3: heard Brian Thomas sort of connected to the Colts at
Speaker 3: number fifteen. If Thomas goes to the Colts at fifteen
Speaker 3: and like my guy Kean Coleman or Ladd McConkie. I mean,
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna want a big guy. Even if
Speaker 3: they reached went for someone like Xavier Legatt, who no
Speaker 3: one expects to be a first rounder, if they took
Speaker 3: Legett there, I think Legett would probably be my one
Speaker 3: O nine over Thomas.
Speaker 1: I think I think that's fair.
Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked a lot about how after the
Speaker 2: one away it's gonna really come down to landing spot.
Speaker 2: This immediately becomes a crazy appealing landing spot. Let's open
Speaker 2: into the bilos here. We're gonna give everybody ten bilos.
Speaker 2: Then we'll go to ten cell highs later in the show.
Speaker 2: Fits us start with you. Who's your first by low.
Speaker 3: It's Chase Brown, No more Joe Mixon in Cincinnati. So
Speaker 3: it's gonna be some combination of Chase Brown and Zach Moss.
Speaker 3: A lot of people think Moss is going to be
Speaker 3: the primary guy. I think Brown's better. But even if
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, I think Brown is still going to have
Speaker 3: a very fantasy relevant role. He's most likely going to
Speaker 3: play on passing downs based on the success he had
Speaker 3: as a pass catcher last year. I mean, he looked
Speaker 3: really good last year in limited doses, especially in the
Speaker 3: passing game. Cut fourteen to fifteen targets for one hundred
Speaker 3: and fifty six yards in a touchdown, So the efficiency
Speaker 3: was through the roof. Granted, yes, a very small sample size,
Speaker 3: but I mean Brown is fast and shifty, and he
Speaker 3: could play on any down and be used as a
Speaker 3: workhorse if they need him, because he averaged twenty seven
Speaker 3: point three carries a game in his final season at Illinois,
Speaker 3: Like they worked him into the ground and he held
Speaker 3: up under that massive workload. So right now his ECR
Speaker 3: is RB forty two. I've got him at RB twenty
Speaker 3: nine for Dynasty.
Speaker 2: How early in the draft would the Bengals need to
Speaker 2: take a rookie running back for that running back to
Speaker 2: scare you off of Brown? Because if it's like a
Speaker 2: seventh round, you're probably not really concerned. It's more like
Speaker 2: a depth piece. At what round are you saying, well,
Speaker 2: this probably doesn't bode well for Chase Brown.
Speaker 3: Day two would be bad, and maybe even round four
Speaker 3: might be Uh, sweaty palms, Bobby, what.
Speaker 1: Do you think? I agree?
Speaker 2: And I don't know that Chase Brown is better than
Speaker 2: Zach Moss, but he definitely is healthier than Zach mossak
Speaker 2: Moss has never played every game in a season in
Speaker 2: his career. He's had a lot of major injuries. He
Speaker 2: had one coming in to the NFL, which I feel
Speaker 2: like he's looked better the further he's got away from
Speaker 2: that bad like break when he was at Utah. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, I gotta be honest. Fits got to the
Speaker 2: list first, and this is one of those instances where
Speaker 2: I was extremely jealous of three or four of his
Speaker 2: picks for you know this exercise. Chase Brown was at
Speaker 2: the very top of my list, So I think it's
Speaker 2: an excellent pick.
Speaker 1: Let that be a lesson to you to get your
Speaker 1: names to me.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I was wondering why Bogman's choices
Speaker 3: I beat him to the paunch.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, okay, thanks fitz uh Bogue. Let's go
Speaker 2: to your first pick, which might race in my brass,
Speaker 2: but I think is actually a pretty good one.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm gonna say Bryce Young, right, he's QB twenty
Speaker 2: and I don't know if I would get him that
Speaker 2: much higher in my overall rankings, right like, I think
Speaker 2: QB twenty is probably where he should be, but I
Speaker 2: think the overall thought process on him is pretty low
Speaker 2: after last year. And as you mentioned before, Worm, you
Speaker 2: know Stroud was three. He was behind Bryce Young in
Speaker 2: a lot of drafts, and it's because he was so
Speaker 2: good in college and the Panthers were miserable last season.
Speaker 2: They were a huge embarrassing failure. But they've added guards,
Speaker 2: which was a big issue for them. They added Deontay Johnson.
Speaker 2: They just need any wide receivers that can get separation.
Speaker 2: They're probably going to add more in the draft. They've
Speaker 2: hit the reset button on the defense, so the defense
Speaker 2: is probably it's like Derek Brown and a lot of
Speaker 2: free agent signings, so it's gonna be leaky. So I
Speaker 2: think with an improved O line, another year for another
Speaker 2: year for Bryce Young, I think we're gonna see closer
Speaker 2: to that two percent turnover worthy play rate. His last
Speaker 2: two seasons in college, he had a top ten adjust
Speaker 2: a completion percentage his final year in college. This season,
Speaker 2: it was only his adjusted completion percentage in the NFL
Speaker 2: was only better than Will Levis and Kenny Pickett. So
Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna see this version of Bryce
Speaker 2: Young again. I think we're gonna give him better targets.
Speaker 2: We're gonna give him more time to throw through the
Speaker 2: draft and through free agency signing, and I think we're
Speaker 2: gonna see a much improved Bryce Young. So I think
Speaker 2: this may be the time to buy him at his
Speaker 2: lowest point. So if you can get him now, especially
Speaker 2: in a super flex league, I'm going to try to
Speaker 2: go out and get him. Yeah, I think it's important
Speaker 2: to differentiate between by and by low. The whole reason
Speaker 2: why it makes sense is because he's his value has
Speaker 2: probably never been lower. And you know, it's it's not
Speaker 2: that you think he's under ranked, it's that there is
Speaker 2: baked in upside. He has the pedigree and the team
Speaker 2: around him like could hardly get much worse, right, Like,
Speaker 2: eventually you would think they would get better.
Speaker 1: So it's more like it's a smart swing to take.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say full on lottery take it,
Speaker 2: but it's a smart, you know, upside play to make,
Speaker 2: rather than saying like, oh, he's gonna way out perform
Speaker 2: his ADP this season necessarily, if that makes sense, kind
Speaker 2: of mitigate, you know, from the risk standpoint, what do
Speaker 2: you make of Bryce Young fits because again, I mean,
Speaker 2: it's hard to have much worse of a rookie season
Speaker 2: than he did. But we do see quarterbacks take a
Speaker 2: step in year two. You know, again, theoretically the town
Speaker 2: should be better. He already, as Deontay Johnson added, how
Speaker 2: are you evaluating Young from a dynasty perspective?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 3: I agree with the way you guys see this, And look,
Speaker 3: I drafted him ahead of C. J. Stroud in a
Speaker 3: league last year, and yes I regret it, but I'm
Speaker 3: also not calling it a total loss either. Like it
Speaker 3: would be hard to stack the deck against Bryce Young
Speaker 3: much more than he had the deck stacked against him
Speaker 3: last year. It was David Carr type deck stack. Yeah,
Speaker 3: against Bryce, Like the offensive line was just gross. Adam Thielen,
Speaker 3: who I believe has three or four grandkids, was the
Speaker 3: leading receiver. It was just like there was nothing there
Speaker 3: for him. That the infrastructure was so bad and the
Speaker 3: ecosystem was so unhealthy. And yet like we saw some
Speaker 3: flashes late in the season, he lit up my Green
Speaker 3: Bay Packers on Christmas eve Day for over three hundred
Speaker 3: yards and looked really good doing so. So there are
Speaker 3: signs of hope here. Let's hope he can still be
Speaker 3: that sort of point guard, extraordinary type quarterback. A lot
Speaker 3: of people thought he'd be coming in because the tape
Speaker 3: he put up at Alabama was terrifically. I think he
Speaker 3: can still be that guy.
Speaker 1: Fitz Let's stick with you for your next by Low.
Speaker 3: It's DJ Moore, And it's possible that some of the
Speaker 3: people rostering DJ Moore right now are feeling a little
Speaker 3: bit uneasy with his situation. The Bears brought in Keenan Allen,
Speaker 3: the rumors that they might draft Roma, say at one
Speaker 3: oh nine in the NFL Draft at the end of
Speaker 3: the month, and the Bears are going to be playing
Speaker 3: a rookie at quarterback, granted a very highly touted one.
Speaker 3: Moore turns twenty seven next week, so squarely in his prime.
Speaker 3: He's gone over eleven hundred yards and four of his
Speaker 3: last five seasons despite never having played with a truly
Speaker 3: prolific passer, I mean, Justin Fields last year was probably
Speaker 3: the best quarterback he's ever played with, and Field's averaged
Speaker 3: under two hundred passing yards a game, so and yet
Speaker 3: Moore still had thirteen hundred and sixty four yards so,
Speaker 3: and some of that was with Tyson Bagent too. Like DJ,
Speaker 3: Moore is just an awesome receiver. He's really good. So
Speaker 3: I'm not going to freak out about the situation. And
Speaker 3: if anyone wants to freak out about his situation and
Speaker 3: maybe sell him to me at a very reasonable price,
Speaker 3: I am absolutely game because he's gonna earn targets, he's
Speaker 3: gonna make plays, and yes, there's more target competition, but
Speaker 3: I do like to think that with Aleb Williams at
Speaker 3: quarterback for the Bears, assuming they do take him, that's
Speaker 3: maybe going to grow the overall passing pie in Chicago.
Speaker 3: So even if Moore is getting a slightly smaller share
Speaker 3: of that pie, you know, with a bigger overall pie,
Speaker 3: maybe he doesn't lose that much.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what his quarterback situation was in high school,
Speaker 2: but it certainly wasn't good at Maryland, and it certainly
Speaker 2: wasn't good in Carolina, and it hasn't been great in Chicago.
Speaker 2: He is about to play with like clearly the best
Speaker 2: quarterback he's ever played with, Bagman, I'm curious, do you
Speaker 2: see it more? Obviously, Kayla Williams, huge upgrade. We're excited
Speaker 2: about that. Do you see the addition of Keenan Allen
Speaker 2: in potential edition of Roma Dunza or if not a Duneza,
Speaker 2: I think it's likely they ad at least another receiver
Speaker 2: somewhere in the draft. Do you think that the you know,
Speaker 2: lack of defensive attention that Moore might get now will
Speaker 2: be more of a boost than the decline possibly in targets?
Speaker 2: I really do, yeah, because I mean, what have we
Speaker 2: seen from DJ Moore? He's been the number one by
Speaker 2: a lot in Carolina, the number one by a lot
Speaker 2: in Chicago, and he has put up great numbers. So
Speaker 2: to me, he is one of the few wide receivers
Speaker 2: that is that has seemed pretty QB proof, right, And
Speaker 2: if you like you said, you're gonna give him the
Speaker 2: best one. I don't like everything out of Maryland, but
Speaker 2: I definitely like DJ Moore and I think he is
Speaker 2: going to have his best season this year, whether or
Speaker 2: not they draft Roma Doon Say, I think they're going
Speaker 2: to be able to pass more. You know, we'll get
Speaker 2: into it a little bit later. I don't think this
Speaker 2: run game is going to work as well as they
Speaker 2: think it's going to work. And the defense is still growing,
Speaker 2: so I think they're going to need to pass. I
Speaker 2: think DJ Moore is going to have an enormous season,
Speaker 2: and I definitely like this Bilo as well. You know, Fits,
Speaker 2: we talked about how we really want to see if
Speaker 2: we can swing a trade live in the air sometime
Speaker 2: one oh one. Your pick that you got from Debro
Speaker 2: for DJ Moore, What do you think?
Speaker 4: Not quite? I need the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: And by the way, I don't think we can call
Speaker 3: DJ Moore entirely QB proof because when Baker Mayfield was
Speaker 3: playing for the Panthers, Mayfield was the one guy who
Speaker 3: managed to absolutely destroy DJ Moore's productivity.
Speaker 2: Well that's Baker though, I mean, that's not really DJ Morris.
Speaker 3: Well, then you're right. The Baker was great last year.
Speaker 3: It was weird where they those two just had no
Speaker 3: chemistry watching.
Speaker 2: Yes, sometimes it's just like two guys aren't on the
Speaker 2: same page and it just just does not work.
Speaker 1: Jean Digs and Josh Allen.
Speaker 2: That worked a little bit better than DJ Moore and
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield. I've give your next Bylow. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: with Zach Charboney here and right, he's not too low.
Speaker 1: He's RB twenty nine.
Speaker 2: But I am super excited to see what Ryan Grubbs
Speaker 2: does well with this offense. In his press conference, he said,
Speaker 2: we are going to be a physical team. The team
Speaker 2: has great skill players right. The wide receivers are amazing.
Speaker 2: In the running backs, Walker and Sharbony are both really good.
Speaker 2: Grubbs had a great aerial attack at Washington. But this
Speaker 2: is the team with mcdonne donald at the helm. McDonald
Speaker 2: comes from Baltimore, where they ran the ball and played defense.
Speaker 2: They were one of three teams last season that ran
Speaker 2: the ball more than they passed. They led the league
Speaker 2: in rush attempts. You know, McDonald's a defensive guy, but
Speaker 2: good offensive coaches fit the system to work with the
Speaker 2: personnel on the roster, not vice versa. So I don't
Speaker 2: think this is a team that's going to come in
Speaker 2: here and draft Michael Pennix and throw the ball at
Speaker 2: eight hundred times a game. I mean they could, but
Speaker 2: you can't do that with Gino Smith, right. Gino is
Speaker 2: a guy that is you know, he gets on heaters.
Speaker 2: Sometimes he's good, sometimes he's bad. So you kind of
Speaker 2: have to work that out every game. And I think
Speaker 2: you're going to benefit yourself by running the ball a lot.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying, you know, I wouldn't put Walker in
Speaker 2: by low or sell high or anything. I still think
Speaker 2: Walker is easily the better running back here. I think
Speaker 2: he's one of the best running backs in the league.
Speaker 2: But I do think this is a team that is
Speaker 2: going to put together a two headed monsters with Zach
Speaker 2: Sharbonay behind Walker. I think he's gonna he's going a
Speaker 2: little bit too low right now. And once again, I
Speaker 2: think if you're going to buy him, now is the
Speaker 2: time because if he has a big season, anything happens
Speaker 2: to Walker, his value is going to skyrocket. So get
Speaker 2: him now while he still hasn't really proven himself.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Fits if if I guarantee you Walker like stays fully
Speaker 2: healthy and is on the team, how would you evaluate
Speaker 2: Sharbona based on what we saw as a rookie and
Speaker 2: we know of him as a prospect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's really good, and I guess in
Speaker 3: redraft that would just make him a handcuff or whatever.
Speaker 3: But like, I still want him in Dynasty even though
Speaker 3: the path to fantasy startability I guessed in dynasty leagues,
Speaker 3: like we're not starting Zach Charbonay in week one if
Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker is healthy, you know, But like charbon A
Speaker 3: is really talented, and I'm gonna willing to play the
Speaker 3: long game with him, even though Kenneth Walker is terrific.
Speaker 4: Like I love Kenneth Walker.
Speaker 3: He when he came out, like a lot of people
Speaker 3: had him ranked even with or ahead of Breis Hall.
Speaker 3: You know, like Walker was that highly regarded as a prospect,
Speaker 3: and I don't think he's done anything to.
Speaker 4: You know, sour us on him at all. But charbon
Speaker 4: Ay is like great deal.
Speaker 3: Of potential run, catch threats, good size, like pretty much
Speaker 3: the entire package. Yeah, Like I don't know if Scattle's
Speaker 3: going to continue to be the fifth run heaviest team
Speaker 3: in the league like they were last season, but still
Speaker 3: like there's a.
Speaker 4: Lot of potential here with charbon Ay.
Speaker 3: So even though there's not a clear path the playing
Speaker 3: time or at least, you know, the sort of playing
Speaker 3: time that would make him a startable commodity, I'm still
Speaker 3: willing to buy in.
Speaker 4: If someone's panic selling on.
Speaker 1: Him fits, let's stick with you for your next by low.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Christian Watson, And this is not just packer homersm
Speaker 3: Like the hang ups with Watson are one he's been
Speaker 3: having these chronic hamstring issues and two the Packers now
Speaker 3: have a really good and really large collection of young
Speaker 3: pass catchers Watson, Jayden, Reid, Romeo Dubbs, Dontavian Wicks, the
Speaker 3: two tight ends Muskrave and Craft. So the Packers sent
Speaker 3: Watson too a specialist to have them examine the hamstring issue.
Speaker 3: Hopefully that leads to some adjustments in his training, diet,
Speaker 3: exercise regimen, whatever. The hamstring issue is a concern for sure,
Speaker 3: but it's not enough to make me walk away. And
Speaker 3: as for the target chair thing, like, I am always
Speaker 3: going to fade the too many mouths to feed narrative
Speaker 3: as a reason to be down on a player. If
Speaker 3: a receiver's good, he's going to earn targets and make plays.
Speaker 3: And I want to bet on a guy who's six
Speaker 3: foot four, has sub four to four speed, who is
Speaker 3: good enough to score eight touchdowns over a four game
Speaker 3: span as a rookie and also scored four touchdowns over
Speaker 3: a three game span last year despite playing in only
Speaker 3: nine games, Like, I want to invest in that guy.
Speaker 3: And if other people perceive all sorts of headwinds with
Speaker 3: Christian Watson, so much the better for me and making
Speaker 3: a trade offer to that person.
Speaker 1: Bogman, what do you think? I mean?
Speaker 2: I who was like, there was a ton of hype
Speaker 2: last year, and I like in the preseason debro was
Speaker 2: particularly high. So we're only when you're you know, removed
Speaker 2: from that, and there was injury stuff last year. What
Speaker 2: do you think I definitely agree with the sentiment of,
Speaker 2: you know, too many mouths to feed is a little
Speaker 2: eye rolling, because we've seen that too many times where
Speaker 2: you know, even even at a different position, even at
Speaker 2: running back, even at tight end, you know, if you're
Speaker 2: the better player, you're going to get the targets, you're
Speaker 2: going to get the run. As Tony Romo famously described
Speaker 2: the NFL, it is a meritocracy. If you merit being
Speaker 2: out there, you will be out there. It doesn't matter
Speaker 2: who's ahead of you. It's ever changing landscape every single week.
Speaker 2: So do I think Christian Watson's the most talented player
Speaker 2: on this roster?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't have him much higher than his than his
Speaker 2: ECR right now in terms of uh, you know where
Speaker 2: we're putting all these wide receivers.
Speaker 1: I have him.
Speaker 2: I actually have him two spots below where his ECR
Speaker 2: is at forty two. He's at forty right now. I
Speaker 2: don't know that everyone is ranked their rookies, so maybe
Speaker 2: I'll have him a little bit higher than consensus once
Speaker 2: everyone does rank rookies. I know some people like to
Speaker 2: wait until after the draft to see where the landing
Speaker 2: spot is, so I'll probably be a little bit higher
Speaker 2: on him than consensus post draft. And yeah, I like
Speaker 2: to buy I'd like to buy him, but the injury stuff, man,
Speaker 2: is going to keep happening.
Speaker 1: That is what keeps me away.
Speaker 2: So I may be one of those people that you
Speaker 2: can buy Watson off of because I don't think he's
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Speaker 1: Give me your next bylow. Give me Terry McLaurin.
Speaker 2: He's going off the board wide receiver thirty seven right now,
Speaker 2: and all I can think with Cliff Kingsbury coming in,
Speaker 2: and to me, it doesn't really matter if it's Jane
Speaker 2: Daniels or Drake May. I particularly would want Drake May,
Speaker 2: but I know Jane Daniels may fit better for Cliff Kingsbury.
Speaker 2: Doesn't make any difference to me. Terry McLaurin is going
Speaker 2: to be the number one here. And what made me really,
Speaker 2: you know, I think back to DeAndre Hopkins getting in
Speaker 2: this offense, getting with Kyler Murray right and having that
Speaker 2: first like really huge year when he was fifth in
Speaker 2: points per game. He was twenty second his second year
Speaker 2: under Kingsbury, was tenth in points per game his third year.
Speaker 2: His only full health season was that first year in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, where he finished fourth overall in total points
Speaker 2: among wide receivers. McLaurin is the current number one in
Speaker 2: Washington by a wide margin. It's Johan Dotson who is
Speaker 2: incredibly disappointing last season, and Olamide Zakias next to him.
Speaker 2: We all expect them to add a wide receiver in
Speaker 2: the draft. But they're gonna take a QB with that
Speaker 2: first pick, so you're gonna have to wait on a
Speaker 2: wide receiver. It's deep this year, there's gonna be a
Speaker 2: good one, and there's gonna be one that could surely
Speaker 2: pass Dotson, But I don't know if there's gonna be
Speaker 2: a wide receiver in his rookie season to just sail
Speaker 2: past Terry McLaurin. So I think in this system, knowing
Speaker 2: this defense is still you know they're putting it together.
Speaker 2: I know Dan Quinn is the defensive guy, but the
Speaker 2: personnel is not great that defensive line, especially edge thrushers.
Speaker 2: They added a lot, but they didn't add anyone overwhelmingly great.
Speaker 2: So maybe better than last year, but not good. I
Speaker 2: think as long as the QB plays improved, we should
Speaker 2: expect to see mclaurn eclipse his career highs one hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty four targets and seven touchdowns, which makes him
Speaker 2: way more than the number one wide receiver four. I
Speaker 2: think he's at least a high end wide receiver. Three
Speaker 2: to me fits How you know, to what degree will
Speaker 2: your opinion of McLaurin in dynasty change based on which
Speaker 2: quarterback it is the commander's ad.
Speaker 3: Not all that much. Whether it's McCarthy, may or Daniels.
Speaker 3: I think I'll still probably feel about the same with McLaurin,
Speaker 3: just as long as it's not Sam Howell, because one,
Speaker 3: I think Sam Howell is bad and number two, Sam
Speaker 3: Howell seemed like he was much more comfortable throwing to
Speaker 3: the middle of the field than to the boundaries, So
Speaker 3: I think like it just wasn't a good fit for
Speaker 3: McLaurin at all.
Speaker 4: Like mclaurin's always been really good, he's just always ace
Speaker 4: the eye test. So I'm totally with Bogs here.
Speaker 1: Fits Let's stick with you for your next Bilow.
Speaker 3: Travis kelce Look, if you perceive your Dynasty team to
Speaker 3: be a championship contender in twenty twenty four and the
Speaker 3: team that has Travis Kelcey is maybe rebuilding or retooling,
Speaker 3: go out and get him because Kelsey is no longer
Speaker 3: unattainable or super expensive. He's thirty four now, he's coming
Speaker 3: off his worst season statistically since twenty fifteen, and yes,
Speaker 3: maybe he is slowing down a little bit, but this
Speaker 3: dude still came within sixteen yards of his eighth straight
Speaker 3: one thousand yard receiving season, and that was playing in
Speaker 3: only fifteen games. So I still think he's going to
Speaker 3: be a highly impactful tight end. Playing with Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 3: and the addition of Marquis Brown is probably going to
Speaker 3: make his job a little bit easier, give him a
Speaker 3: little more room to work with.
Speaker 4: So go out and get him.
Speaker 1: If you're in contention, Bog, I'm curious what you think.
Speaker 2: I'm Kelsey, because I like, I totally see the case
Speaker 2: that fits is making. But I'm just would be so
Speaker 2: nervous that I'd be the one left hold in the
Speaker 2: bag and trading for him the year that this thing
Speaker 2: actually does nos dive off a cliff because he's an
Speaker 2: aging tight end who has had so much usage that
Speaker 2: just it just scares me. I can't believe the agist
Speaker 2: Pat fitz Morris here it has Travis Kelcey as a
Speaker 2: by low, But I love it. Look sure, at some
Speaker 2: point you're going to be at some point he's going
Speaker 2: to decline. He's going to fall or retire one of
Speaker 2: the two. Right, It's not his path isn't five or
Speaker 2: six more years. I think we all know that it's
Speaker 2: you know, two seasons at worst, probably maybe three seasons.
Speaker 2: I mean, they win the Super Bowl this year, he
Speaker 2: could retire. You know, it wouldn't be shocking. And I
Speaker 2: know his agents want to turn him into the Rock
Speaker 2: and all that stuff and blah blah blah dating Travis
Speaker 2: or dating Taylor Swift, blah blah know, all all that,
Speaker 2: all that off field distraction. Sure, but I mean with
Speaker 2: Rashie Rice being in trouble potentially getting a you know,
Speaker 2: large suspension, if not worse. You know, Marcus Brown, I
Speaker 2: don't know, he's kind of washed. I think this team
Speaker 2: is going to draft a wide receiver as well, especially
Speaker 2: after Rice's issues. But Kelsey is still going to be
Speaker 2: the main guy. And as long as he is out there,
Speaker 2: he is the dude, and he is a giant difference
Speaker 2: maker at the tight end position. So yeah, I'm all
Speaker 2: aboard this one, especially if it's owner that you know,
Speaker 2: a manager that wants to get out from under Kelsey
Speaker 2: because he's aging and you can get him just a
Speaker 2: little bit cheaper. So yeah, I'm I'm aboard this, you know,
Speaker 2: by the old man, Travis kelcey uh train here for sure.
Speaker 2: And I like to see the growth from fits buying
Speaker 2: the old men here.
Speaker 3: Look, I mean, it's only for a certain type of team,
Speaker 3: a title contender. If you're in a productive struggle, you're
Speaker 3: not going out to get Travis of course.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just get this sense that, like I really
Speaker 2: have a gut feeling that, like the only reason it
Speaker 2: felt to me that he came back was because he
Speaker 2: wanted to go for this three pet that they've been
Speaker 2: talking a lot about, and so I just am very
Speaker 2: nervous that they are going to, even more so, to
Speaker 2: whatever degree we saw it last year, even more so
Speaker 2: kind of save him to unleash him in January, and
Speaker 2: that you know, won't help you for fantasy. Are you
Speaker 2: rostering him anywhere? You know, trade trade with worm everybody,
Speaker 2: That's what we should do. I actually don't think I
Speaker 2: have him in dynasty anywhere, So that's I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe that speaks to my pessimism about where he is
Speaker 2: at least in terms of trading for him. Bogman, I'm
Speaker 2: less pessimistic on the guy that you're going to talk
Speaker 2: about next. Yeah, Keith Mitchell going off at RB forty nine.
Speaker 2: And the risk here, of course is that he doesn't
Speaker 2: come back one hundred percent after a torn acl and
Speaker 2: if that takes him off your list.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 2: I understand that he started the season on the I
Speaker 2: he ended on the IR. Honestly, I get it. But
Speaker 2: he didn't have a lengthy injury history at ECU. He
Speaker 2: had a hit pointer that cost him a game his
Speaker 2: last season, and then a shoulder injury that reeks of
Speaker 2: roster manipulation by the Ravens. I'm not going to accuse
Speaker 2: anyone of anything, but he started the year on the
Speaker 2: pup right, didn't play the first five games, I think so,
Speaker 2: and then he had a hamstring injury that cost him
Speaker 2: a game. Then of course the ACL injury, right, and
Speaker 2: I know Dereck Henry is coming here, and Dereck Henry
Speaker 2: is a monster. But once again with Keith Mitchell, he
Speaker 2: is not a dude that has to have one hundred
Speaker 2: carries to make an impact. He balances with Henry perfectly
Speaker 2: because Henry is that guy that wears down the defense.
Speaker 2: And last season, among running backs with at least twenty carries,
Speaker 2: he had the best PFF elusive rating, the most breakaway yards,
Speaker 2: the most yards after contact. He was seventh among yards
Speaker 2: of running backs in yards per route run. The talent
Speaker 2: is all, the risk is the health and this could
Speaker 2: be the lowest he is for a while. I think
Speaker 2: he's the perfect complimentary back next to Derrick Henry, and
Speaker 2: I'm trying to get him wherever I can. He's gonna
Speaker 2: be particularly cheap, especially because I don't think he's going
Speaker 2: to be able to start the season on time. I
Speaker 2: think he's gonna start on the puff again, and because
Speaker 2: that injury was late, and you can probably get him
Speaker 2: for a song at some point. And I think the
Speaker 2: closer we get to the season starting, and you know,
Speaker 2: the more reports we hear about him not being ready,
Speaker 2: the cheaper he's gonna get. So this might be one
Speaker 2: of those where you want to hold out the closer
Speaker 2: to the season to get him when people are being
Speaker 2: frustrated and they don't want a roster guy that's going
Speaker 2: to be hurt and stuff like that. But I think
Speaker 2: right now could be the time to get him. It
Speaker 2: is a risk, but I don't think it's going to
Speaker 2: be a very costly risk either, So I would go
Speaker 2: out and see what it's going to cost for Mitchell
Speaker 2: if you can. Yeah, I don't want to hear any
Speaker 2: accusations of you know, roster shenanigans this time. When he's
Speaker 2: on puff because he will define be one hundred percent warranted. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we've already seen like what the fit can be in
Speaker 2: this offense. He looked awesome sharing a backfield with Lamar
Speaker 2: Jackson and Gus Edwards. Imagine now sharing a backfield with
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry.
Speaker 1: The health is a question mark, like no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: But again, just like Bryce Young, you're not saying to
Speaker 2: go by, You're saying to go by low if you
Speaker 2: can get him really cheap. This is this is I
Speaker 2: would put the you know, a moniker of lottery ticket on,
Speaker 2: but a guy who can hit really big, who has
Speaker 2: the talent and the fit fits you are ranking Mitchell
Speaker 2: quite low.
Speaker 1: I believe he's in your.
Speaker 2: RB sixties late sixties range in Dynasty. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean I have been the Greek chorus for Bogs
Speaker 3: up to this point, but I can't get on board
Speaker 3: with this when and of course I knew you were
Speaker 3: gonna be with him on this where he was a
Speaker 3: Ravens fan. But like, I'm just not interested and I
Speaker 3: wouldn't even give up a late third round rookie pick
Speaker 3: for Keith Mitchell. To be quite honest with you, like,
Speaker 3: I just don't see he's too small to ever have
Speaker 3: a financial workload, and so it's gonna be tough to
Speaker 3: decide when you're gonna start him in a managed league.
Speaker 3: Maybe in a Best Ball dynasty league, he might be
Speaker 3: a little more appealing because you're gonna get those big
Speaker 3: plays assuming he comes back fully healthy. And you don't
Speaker 3: like to see a back this small have a major
Speaker 3: knee injury. That's possibly going to make him a little
Speaker 3: less explosive. And you know, just like there are always
Speaker 3: gonna be durability issues or concerns with the guy this
Speaker 3: small to begin with. So I'm just not too excited
Speaker 3: about this, honestly. And you know, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: be going out and making offers for Keaton Mitchell.
Speaker 4: Sorry.
Speaker 2: I know he's not the same caliber of player, but
Speaker 2: it is funny for me to hear you making the
Speaker 2: case against Mitchell based on like size and stuff like
Speaker 2: that when you're so high on Devon Ah.
Speaker 1: I know they're not the same player. I know they're
Speaker 1: not the same player, but I did it, did it work,
Speaker 1: But I was like, I'll leave that one alone. I've
Speaker 1: been on shows with.
Speaker 2: You and ericson where you disagree on h Han and
Speaker 2: you're the high guy on him. So then to hear
Speaker 2: you making the case against a player that's like not
Speaker 2: as good but stylistically maybe similar. But to Pat's point,
Speaker 2: a chance not coming off of torn me. I know,
Speaker 2: I just I had to to cat up because I've
Speaker 2: heard that argument on the other side of it. But
Speaker 2: I'm not say Mitchell and ah Chan are anywhere near
Speaker 2: the same. They play the same way, they have the
Speaker 2: same style, right, but h Chan is an Olympic level sprinter, so.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes I would.
Speaker 2: I want to really be clear, I'm not saying Mitchell
Speaker 2: is Divide a Chance fits who's your next Bilo.
Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba And as with Christian Watson a
Speaker 3: DJ Moore, I am fading the too mini miles to
Speaker 3: feed narrative. So like I'm happy to swoop in if
Speaker 3: someone is concerned that JSN situation is still the same
Speaker 3: as it was last year, where he's got to share
Speaker 3: targets with the dk met and Tyler Lockett, who I
Speaker 3: think a lot of people or at least the JSN
Speaker 3: investors were hoping would move on insteads Yettle, you know,
Speaker 3: brings back lockets, So I don't know. Maybe people are
Speaker 3: feeling panicky after JSN only had six hundred and twenty
Speaker 3: eight receiving yards and four touchdowns as a rookie, and
Speaker 3: like there's no more clear path to targets with him.
Speaker 3: He also had just this weird He averaged nine point
Speaker 3: nine seven yards per catch last year and his average
Speaker 3: depth of target was six point one yards, so the
Speaker 3: usage was kind of strange, But I'm optimistic. Boggs was
Speaker 3: talking early about Ryan Grubbed, the new offensive coordinator who
Speaker 3: managed to juggle three really good wide receivers at Washington,
Speaker 3: so maybe that bodes well for JSN. And just I
Speaker 3: still think that this is a really talented guy, and
Speaker 3: we have no reason to doubt that talent based on
Speaker 3: his rookie year, and he just turned twenty two and
Speaker 3: was a first round pick.
Speaker 4: So still really bullish on this guy.
Speaker 3: And if whoever drafted him last year is not feeling
Speaker 3: as good about him as they did a year ago, yes,
Speaker 3: I will put in a good faith offer to try
Speaker 3: to get him off your hands.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bogman, I pretty much could not have been higher
Speaker 2: on JSN last year, and we kind of knew what
Speaker 2: to expect going into last season with Lockett and Metcalf there,
Speaker 2: So I don't feel.
Speaker 1: Like I'm scared off at all. What about you?
Speaker 2: No, And it's always best to get one of these
Speaker 2: supremely talented dudes before they have that enormous season, because
Speaker 2: you know, if he did have that enormous season, he'd
Speaker 2: be up where Pokin Nakua is. Right, So he does
Speaker 2: he have the talent to get there?
Speaker 1: Maybe?
Speaker 2: I mean I think he could, but I don't know.
Speaker 2: I have him a little bit higher than consensus. I
Speaker 2: think he's still going to be real good. You may
Speaker 2: have to play the waiting game a little bit. You know,
Speaker 2: if Gino isn't good, do they go to Sam Howe
Speaker 2: who wasn't good in Washington last year? I'm a little
Speaker 2: I think my most concerning thing here would be the
Speaker 2: quarterback scenario, because I don't think Gino played as well
Speaker 2: as he did, you know, in twenty twenty two in
Speaker 2: twenty three, Sam Howell concerns me. So I still think
Speaker 2: they may be hunting there, which is why I like Sharboney.
Speaker 2: But I do think anytime you can buy one of
Speaker 2: these super talented wide receivers before they put up a
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl level season is a good time to buy,
Speaker 2: So I'm absolutely on board with this one as well,
Speaker 2: bog Bean, sticking with you for your last by love.
Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna go low here. Give me Jalil McLaughlin,
Speaker 2: who right now is currently sitting at RB sixty four
Speaker 2: on our Dynasty list. And who the hell is the
Speaker 2: quarterback in Denver? We have no idea. We know that
Speaker 2: the passing game isn't going to be great with probably
Speaker 2: whoever they bring in. We know that the defense is
Speaker 2: still weak, especially at putting pressure on the QB. So
Speaker 2: what is the game plan going to be to counteract?
Speaker 2: That's to be to run the football a lot. And
Speaker 2: you know it's either an old vet or rookie and
Speaker 2: this team is going to be relying on that run game.
Speaker 2: I'm a believer in Javante still, but McLaughlin looked good
Speaker 2: at the end of the year. He's passed p Ryan
Speaker 2: in the pecking order. In my opinion. McLaughlin had fourteen
Speaker 2: more mistackles forced than p Ryan twenty to six, in
Speaker 2: only four more touches than p Ryan. McLaughlin had a
Speaker 2: higher yards per carry, yards after contact, breakaway percentage carries
Speaker 2: the ten yards and grated better than p Ryan in
Speaker 2: literally every single PFF category. So the trend started at
Speaker 2: the end of the season in December with more touches
Speaker 2: going to McLaughlin than p Ryan forty one to thirty four,
Speaker 2: and I expected to continue. And this guy is going
Speaker 2: for a song right now. You can literally get him for,
Speaker 2: you know, a throw in a very late pick. If
Speaker 2: you have five rounds, you could probably get him for
Speaker 2: a fourth or fifth round rookie pick. And I think
Speaker 2: I would be willing to do that because I like
Speaker 2: what I saw from Leo McLaughlin and I love Javonte.
Speaker 2: I still have him as a very high running back,
Speaker 2: but I think there's more questions with him coming off
Speaker 2: the nasty knee injury and not looking great last season.
Speaker 2: So I think McLaughlin is a really cheap BILO that
Speaker 2: I want right now. I was surprised to see him
Speaker 2: ranked as low as he is in the consensus. I
Speaker 2: thought Debro alone would have him higher because he's ranking
Speaker 2: him as a top twenty four running back for next season.
Speaker 2: I think he has an RB twenty one in Dynasty,
Speaker 2: which I know that I have to imagine is the
Speaker 2: highest anybody. I mean, I got him at forty eight,
Speaker 2: and I've thought I was going to be high, so
Speaker 2: I got him as an RB four.
Speaker 1: He's going off as an RB six.
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Speaker 1: Guys, let's move into the cell highs.
Speaker 2: We'll move a bit quicker in this section because we
Speaker 2: are up on it on time fits.
Speaker 3: Giving your first cell high Michael Pittman. A year ago,
Speaker 3: maybe Pittman was a little undervalued because he was coming
Speaker 3: off at disappointing twenty twenty two. But now I think
Speaker 3: the pendulum has swung a bit too far in the
Speaker 3: other direction and he's become one of the more old
Speaker 3: valued players in fantasy football. He averaged ten yards per
Speaker 3: catch and or has averaged ten yards per catch and
Speaker 3: seven yards per target over the last two years, which
Speaker 3: isn't great. He scored four touchdowns in each of the
Speaker 3: last two seasons, and he has fifteen total touchdowns in
Speaker 3: sixty two career games, so he did get heavy target
Speaker 3: volume last year, although much of the year was played
Speaker 3: with Gardner Minshew. And you have to think that the
Speaker 3: running volume for the Colts is going to be up
Speaker 3: with Anthony Richardson a quarterback, of the passing volume is
Speaker 3: going to be down and you're left with a guy
Speaker 3: who doesn't hit on a lot of big plays and
Speaker 3: doesn't score many touchdowns. If that passing volume and target
Speaker 3: volume for Pittman is curtailed, he's going to take a
Speaker 3: hit as far as his value. And so yeah, I
Speaker 3: just plus, we're talking about the possibility of the Colts
Speaker 3: getting either a wide receiver or like if brock Bauers
Speaker 3: were to fall to them at fifteen, maybe adding a
Speaker 3: pass catcher so Pittman might have additional target competition. I
Speaker 3: would happily take pick one oh seven or one await
Speaker 3: in a rookie draft for Pittman if anyone wanted to
Speaker 3: give me that.
Speaker 4: And if I had Pittman on a.
Speaker 3: Roster with like wide receiver firepower to spare, I would
Speaker 3: absolutely swap him out for like Kenneth Walker or some
Speaker 3: other player of that ILK can I like, I think
Speaker 3: I could get Kenneth Walker for Pittman in most leagues.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think that's a good one.
Speaker 2: I mean, for as much as everybody's really excited about
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson as a fantasy quarterback, still a huge unknown
Speaker 2: about what he is as an NFL passer. We barely
Speaker 2: got to see it last year, he was already raw
Speaker 2: in that regard coming in, you know, inexperience that didn't
Speaker 2: get a lot of college starts.
Speaker 1: So they're a huge question mark there.
Speaker 2: Plus, like you mentioned, they might be adding a pass
Speaker 2: catcher in the top half of the first round to
Speaker 2: take targets away from Pittman. So so I'm with you there, Bogman,
Speaker 2: what do you think about Pittman? I mean, I want
Speaker 2: to wait and see what they do in the because
Speaker 2: if they don't take a wide receiver, like if they
Speaker 2: go Terry on Arnold or you know, another spot maybe
Speaker 2: O Line, whatever it is, then now I'm starting to
Speaker 2: go Okay, well we're back to it's Alec Pierce, it's
Speaker 2: Josh Downs, and it's Pittman. And Pittman is by far
Speaker 2: the number one there, and you know, maybe this whole
Speaker 2: offense opens up with under Richardson. So I think it
Speaker 2: really depends on what the Colts do. If they take Mitchell,
Speaker 2: if they take Brian Thomas, a wide receiver, very high.
Speaker 2: Now I'm much more likely to trade Pittman. But that's
Speaker 2: the risk. You know, if you if you trade for
Speaker 2: him now, maybe he's cheaper. If you trade him away now,
Speaker 2: maybe you get more. So that that's the risk. It's
Speaker 2: not what I want to take, but I understand it
Speaker 2: for sure. Bugwan, who's your first sell high All right, listen,
Speaker 2: the name here is going to jump off the page. Okay,
Speaker 2: and uh it's Pukinikua and he's wide receiver eight. And look,
Speaker 2: I still have him as a wide receiver one. He's
Speaker 2: wide receiver well to me, but I at least want
Speaker 2: to see if I can flip him to get one
Speaker 2: of those top three wide receivers in this class. If
Speaker 2: I could flip Pooka and I could get Harrison, if
Speaker 2: I could get Neighbors, and if I could get o'doon say,
Speaker 2: I'm doing that. So I know that's not everyone's strategy.
Speaker 2: Because Pooka was great last year, but he only had
Speaker 2: one fully healthy season over four years in college. He
Speaker 2: missed nine games his sophomore season, took a medical red
Speaker 2: shirt at Washington, transferred to BYU, played the entire next season,
Speaker 2: then missed three more games.
Speaker 1: At the end.
Speaker 2: He's amazing, he's set rookie records. But if I can
Speaker 2: flip him and get a ton for him a haul,
Speaker 2: especially if my team's not very good, this is a
Speaker 2: guy that can maybe get you back multiple pieces right now,
Speaker 2: or if I could get if I could replace him
Speaker 2: with one of those, what I feel like is a
Speaker 2: safer option at wide receiver, because yes, he's great now
Speaker 2: and I think he's going to be good, but who
Speaker 2: is replacing Stafford. Stafford isn't long for the NFL, right
Speaker 2: and you know Cooper cup is still there and he
Speaker 2: was hurt a lot last year. There's just a couple
Speaker 2: little things pulling at me to where you know, I'm
Speaker 2: not selling him for the best offer. That's not what
Speaker 2: I'm doing here, but this might be the highest he's
Speaker 2: ever gonna be, So I'm at least seeing what I
Speaker 2: can get for him right now, and I'm considering offers
Speaker 2: that that's That's what I'm saying. So I know this
Speaker 2: name is big, it's gonna leap off the page, but
Speaker 2: there is a reason behind it. Well, it's it's the
Speaker 2: opposite of what we talked about with some of these
Speaker 2: by lows, where you're not saying sell Pooka, You're saying
Speaker 2: sell Hi. If you can get you know, a haul
Speaker 2: or a really really surefire stud piece, then that's worth considering.
Speaker 1: Fits. Do you agree?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Pooka is terrific. He passes the eye
Speaker 3: test with flying collars. And I'm not really worried about
Speaker 3: Stafford's age or the presence of Cooper Cup but yet,
Speaker 3: like there were some injury concerns with him coming out
Speaker 3: of college, and those concerns like, now, no one's worried
Speaker 3: because he made it through his rookie season and was
Speaker 3: used heavily and made it through intact. But I totally
Speaker 3: get it, like, if I had other good pieces at
Speaker 3: wide receiver, it makes sense to use Puka as trade
Speaker 3: bait to maybe get something else fits.
Speaker 1: Let's sick with you for your next so high.
Speaker 3: David Montgomery, And I am not anti Montgomery by any
Speaker 3: means quality NFL running back, but I'm inclined to sell
Speaker 3: high on a guy who just had thirteen touchdowns the
Speaker 3: previous year and is now sharing a backfield with one
Speaker 3: of the most dynamic, most explosive young running backs in
Speaker 3: the game and jamieer Gibbs. So yes, sure, there is
Speaker 3: a role for David Montgomery in the Detroit offense, but
Speaker 3: he had fifteen or fewer carries in his last five
Speaker 3: games of the season playoffs included, and in nine of
Speaker 3: his last twelve So after the Lions were they came
Speaker 3: out of the gates and used Montgomery pretty heavily, got
Speaker 3: some twenty carry games. Really see the twenty carry games
Speaker 3: for him at all down the stretch. Also had a
Speaker 3: career low sixteen receptions last year, and there is just
Speaker 3: not much pass catching upside for Montgomery with Gibbs around.
Speaker 3: So if people want to look at the lofty touchdown
Speaker 3: total from Montgomery last season and buy him from me,
Speaker 3: I'm happily parting with him.
Speaker 2: All right, Bogman, who's your next cell high? Give me
Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift. What's the difference between Swift's first three mediocre
Speaker 2: seasons in Detroit and its most successful season last year
Speaker 2: in Philly. It's the run blocking. It was third last
Speaker 2: year for Swift behind Philly's line. His three seasons in Detroit,
Speaker 2: they were sixteenth, twentieth, and ninth. He never earned the
Speaker 2: coaching staff's trust in Detroit, he never got the carries,
Speaker 2: and so he was out quick. Philly gave him a
Speaker 2: year and were so impressed by him that they paid
Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley a ton of money to come and be
Speaker 2: the new running back in Philly. So I understand that
Speaker 2: Chicago paid him. I know that he's going to get
Speaker 2: the first crack there, but I don't think he's better
Speaker 2: than Roshan and I think he's not much better than
Speaker 2: Khalil Herbert, if he's better than Khalil Herbert at all.
Speaker 2: This is a guy that I was high on coming in.
Speaker 2: I've been supremely disappointed in as a pro and I
Speaker 2: am not going to let him getting paid make me
Speaker 2: have him as he's right now RB sixteen. I don't
Speaker 2: know why he's RB twenty nine to me on my board.
Speaker 2: So there's a bunch of rookies I would take over him.
Speaker 2: I get that. You know, Caleb Williams is coming in.
Speaker 2: They have big improvements on this offense. Maybe he can
Speaker 2: score a bunch of touchdowns, but I just don't think
Speaker 2: he's that good of a running back. And I would
Speaker 2: like to sell him high if I can right now,
Speaker 2: because when I was looking at values, I could not
Speaker 2: believe he was ranked as high as RB sixteen. Three
Speaker 2: mediocre seasons and one good one with the line doing
Speaker 2: most of the work. I mean, look, he made guys
Speaker 2: tackles a bunch, but it's because he got to that
Speaker 2: second level instead of being tackled by lineman he was
Speaker 2: being or linebackers. He's being tackled by corners in safeties
Speaker 2: more last year. So for me, I'm selling DeAndre Swift
Speaker 2: quickly if I can. Yeah, Fits, I agree with Boglin
Speaker 2: wholeheardly here, what do you think? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And even though the numbers overall were really good last year,
Speaker 3: it was basically he just had those two monster games
Speaker 3: early and then after that the numbers were just pretty
Speaker 3: good and not great. So like everything was kind of
Speaker 3: frontloaded with him last year. So I'm with Bogs like
Speaker 3: I think. Plus the fact that the Bears rolled out
Speaker 3: a big contract for him, while at least big by
Speaker 3: running back standards.
Speaker 4: Maybe that has a lot of people over appraising him.
Speaker 1: Who's your next cell high fifth?
Speaker 4: Oh, it's for Shehi Rice.
Speaker 3: And this is not entirely about the knucklehead factor with
Speaker 3: Rice being involved in this street racing incident, the details
Speaker 3: of which we don't need to get into because I
Speaker 3: think everyone's been getting those details ad nauseum over the
Speaker 3: last week or so. But this is more about the
Speaker 3: sustainability of what Rice did last year, and there's no
Speaker 3: denying that he had a really nice rookie season, seventy
Speaker 3: nine catches, nine hundred and thirty eight yards, seven touchdowns
Speaker 3: in the regular season, plus the big game against Miami
Speaker 3: and the playoffs one hundred and thirty yards in a touchdown. There,
Speaker 3: my buddy Andrew Cooper a fantasy alarm head an interesting
Speaker 3: point that the Chiefs through sixty nine screen passes to
Speaker 3: wide receivers and tight ends last year. No other team
Speaker 3: had more than fifty one wide receiver and tight end screens,
Speaker 3: and the Chiefs had fifty three screens to wide receivers alone,
Speaker 3: and most of them were going to Rashie Rice. And
Speaker 3: a big reason for that is that the Chiefs had
Speaker 3: so little firepower a receiver other than Rashie Rice, and
Speaker 3: Rice is really just this short area catch and run guy,
Speaker 3: at least so far. Like his average depth of target
Speaker 3: last year was four point eight yards. He he was
Speaker 3: just doing the little, you know, screens hitches. The Chiefs
Speaker 3: didn't have another receiver capable of consistently getting opened downfield,
Speaker 3: and now they've got Marquise Brown and they're probably gonna
Speaker 3: draft at least one wide receiver from one of the
Speaker 3: best wide receiver classes we've seen in some time. I
Speaker 3: think Rice's role is going to be diminished, and it
Speaker 3: wouldn't surprise me if his rookie season turned out to
Speaker 3: be one of the best of his entire career. So
Speaker 3: if I had Rice on a Dynasty team and I
Speaker 3: have no shares of him anywhere, so this is purely hypothetical,
Speaker 3: I would try to move him, but I'd probably wait
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks until the it doesn't look like
Speaker 3: you're panic selling after the Dallas street racing incident.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this is another really fair one. I mean,
Speaker 2: Bogman fits laid it out. But let's say Kelsey staves
Speaker 2: off father time for another year, they added Hollywood, who's
Speaker 2: now playing with the best passing quarterback he's ever had.
Speaker 2: Let's say they draft like one of your Texas guys
Speaker 2: at the end of the first round. All of a sudden,
Speaker 2: there might actually be some mouths to feed in case.
Speaker 2: He not even to mention the legal issues here. So
Speaker 2: what kind of trades If you agree that he's a
Speaker 2: sell high, what would you be looking for, Bogman in
Speaker 2: a trade with Rice? Yeah, I want to get I
Speaker 2: want to get at least one of those second level
Speaker 2: wide receivers from this class, Like, you're not getting a
Speaker 2: top three obviously, you know. That's what I said, I
Speaker 2: want to trade Puka for and Puka is way more
Speaker 2: valuable than Rashi Rice, especially now, but I think this
Speaker 2: is just such a bad time to trade him because
Speaker 2: of the street racing thing, right that is, like I
Speaker 2: think this is probably a good sell high, but now
Speaker 2: because of this incident. Now, look if they come back
Speaker 2: and they say, yeah, no one was really terribly hurt
Speaker 2: in this. It was stupid, but he was lucky, you know,
Speaker 2: and he gets whatever, a three game suspension or whatever,
Speaker 2: then sell him, right, but it could be more than that.
Speaker 2: I don't know all of the details. I know it's gross.
Speaker 2: I know it doesn't look good for the young man here,
Speaker 2: but it's just tough. It's just such a tough spot.
Speaker 2: So let the dust settle. I think, on at least
Speaker 2: the legality before you sell him. But then it's tough because,
Speaker 2: like you said, if they do add someone in the draft,
Speaker 2: his value is going to go down a little bit more.
Speaker 2: So I said before, I'm not that impressed with this
Speaker 2: Marquise Brown signing. I think he had had a good
Speaker 2: system in Arizona, had a good quarterback, in Arizona, and
Speaker 2: he still didn't make it work. Mahomes is the best
Speaker 2: quarterback by a lot that he'll play with, but I
Speaker 2: just don't know if Brown is ever going to put
Speaker 2: it together. So I still like Rice. It would have
Speaker 2: been a good time to sell him, but now it's
Speaker 2: just tough after this whole incident in Dallas, So not fun.
Speaker 2: Bog mean your next sell high, give me ty J
Speaker 2: Spears here and The split for running backs under OC
Speaker 2: Brian Callahan in Cincinnati were as follows. Twenty nineteen mix
Speaker 2: and two hundred and seventy eight carries to fifty three
Speaker 2: for Bernard. Twenty twenty, mixing was hurt. He only started
Speaker 2: six games, but in those games he averaged nineteen pointy
Speaker 2: eight carries per game.
Speaker 1: Bernard the backup eleven point two.
Speaker 2: In the ten games he started, he had like a
Speaker 2: couple more carries than mixing overall twenty twenty one back
Speaker 2: to two ninety two for mixin fifty five for p
Speaker 2: Ryan because Bernard was washed twenty twenty two two ten
Speaker 2: to ninety five and he missed four games, and then
Speaker 2: in twenty three uh two point fifty seven for mixing
Speaker 2: down to forty four for Chase Brown. So look, Taylor
Speaker 2: was calling the plays. It wasn't Callahan, but they installed
Speaker 2: the whole game plan together. They liked to rely on
Speaker 2: one running back. It seems they paid Tony Pollard. Ty
Speaker 2: J Spears was here when Callahan came in. It's not
Speaker 2: a guy that he was, you know, pounding the table
Speaker 2: for and Pollard was the big signing.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know, Fitz has mentioned before about the knee stuff
Speaker 2: with ty J Spears as well. There's just too many
Speaker 2: little things stacking up here for me to value J.
Speaker 2: Spears as high as he is. I know Pollard had
Speaker 2: a disappointing season, but after he got over the injury,
Speaker 2: he was much better down the stretch. So for me,
Speaker 2: I just don't want to mess with Tij Spears right now.
Speaker 2: I'd like to trade him if he is valued as
Speaker 2: a low end RB two right.
Speaker 1: Now quickly fits. What are you doing with Spears?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, like if I had him, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean it feels like I don't know if you're
Speaker 3: selling high after the Pollard signing. But yeah, like I've
Speaker 3: I'm worried that the knee thing, Like maybe he does
Speaker 3: have one really good season in him. A La jay
Speaker 3: Ajai who had that great season and then totally turned
Speaker 3: into a pumpkin. But now that Pollard is there, like
Speaker 3: any hope we had of TAIJ. Spears getting feature usage
Speaker 3: is pretty much out the window. So yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: have much use for him.
Speaker 1: Fits.
Speaker 2: I'm curious to hear your explanation for the next player
Speaker 2: you want to talk about, because I'm not sure how
Speaker 2: they could be sold high.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's not even a cell high, it's just
Speaker 3: a cell. It's Sam Howell. And if you to get
Speaker 3: a berloniya a Baloney sandwich, pocket change whatever.
Speaker 1: Did I What did I say last week?
Speaker 2: Not even a Blooney sandwich, just as the bolooney is fine, exactly.
Speaker 3: I would take a third round rookie pick for Sam
Speaker 3: Howell in a super flex league if I could get it,
Speaker 3: and maybe you couldn't a super flex just because Sam
Speaker 3: Holl did lead the league worm in pass attempts last
Speaker 3: year with six hundred and twelve, and yet he was
Speaker 3: quarterback twenty in Fantasy points per game, at least among
Speaker 3: quarterbacks who started six games minimum, because he'd be twenty
Speaker 3: two otherwise if you added Anthony Richardson and Joe Flacco.
Speaker 3: Holl also led the league in sacks with sixty five. This, dude,
Speaker 3: it's just a sack magnet and taking that many sacks
Speaker 3: is just completely ruinous. We saw what taking sacks did
Speaker 3: to justin fields value in Chicago and down the stretch,
Speaker 3: Howl just completely fell apart over his last five starts,
Speaker 3: three touchdowns, eight interceptions, fifty one point six percent completion
Speaker 3: percentage at average four point eight yards per attempt, which
Speaker 3: is just those are the numbers of a guy who's
Speaker 3: going to be starting in the Canadian Football League in
Speaker 3: a couple of years. So, but ten weeks, ten weeks
Speaker 3: into the twenty twenty three season, Sam Hall was the
Speaker 3: QB three in fantasy scoring. So if there's anyone in
Speaker 3: your league who remembers the good times, baby, sell him
Speaker 3: for a third round.
Speaker 4: Rookie Peck in a super Flax league.
Speaker 2: Bogman, I'm not even going to ask you about how
Speaker 2: to sell high on a quarterback ranked outside the top
Speaker 2: thirty two in our consensus dynasty. Wait for Gino to
Speaker 2: get hurt, and then when he's playing, you trade him.
Speaker 2: That's what I would do. Don't even trade him after
Speaker 2: he plays, Trade him like the day Gino gets hurt
Speaker 2: and yes, before the next game, bogwin, who's your next
Speaker 2: cell high? Christian Kirk going off at wide receiver thirty
Speaker 2: five not really a cell high, but he's just valued
Speaker 2: too high for what he is. I think he's only
Speaker 2: twenty seven, but that clock has been running fast. The
Speaker 2: Jags had it ridley last year, and they seem to
Speaker 2: keep trying to add talent because they don't really buy
Speaker 2: into the contract that they gave Kirk. They signed gave
Speaker 2: Davis Devin Duvernet. A lot of mock drafts have them,
Speaker 2: you know, taking a wide receiver early, if not a corner.
Speaker 2: There's a couple needs on this team, of course, but
Speaker 2: maybe I'm wrong, but I would at least put him
Speaker 2: on the block. I would take so many of the
Speaker 2: rookies over him. So if I could get you know,
Speaker 2: a late two in early three, maybe even I might
Speaker 2: be moving off Kirk and his finishes. He had a
Speaker 2: wide receiver twenty finish and this is you know, points
Speaker 2: per game in twenty two, but thirty three, thirty seven
Speaker 2: and fifty five thirty two, fifty one. He flirts between
Speaker 2: a wide receiver five and a wide receiver three there's
Speaker 2: not meat on the bone. There's no upside here. So
Speaker 2: if someone is wide receiver needy and can give you
Speaker 2: a low end second round pick or you know a
Speaker 2: high or you know, mid second round pick, that cost
Speaker 2: is too much. It's too much for Kirk, but you
Speaker 2: might be able to get it. So because people look
Speaker 2: at him as number one with Vin Ridley gone, So
Speaker 2: I'm looking to sell him right now while I can. Yeah, Pat,
Speaker 2: I mean you have Kirk what wide receiver thirty seven?
Speaker 2: It looks like in your Dynasty rankings kind of a
Speaker 2: weird spot for trades or it's like, you know he
Speaker 2: will start weeks for you at that ranking, you know,
Speaker 2: particularly to get into Buie weeks and with injuries, but
Speaker 2: you know, not like a particularly appealing, you know, asset
Speaker 2: to go out and try and get. Are you trying
Speaker 2: to trade him in leagues where you have him? Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, I mean I'd be more inclined to trade for
Speaker 3: him maybe. And it's funny, we probably haven't talked about
Speaker 3: Christian Kirk that much on the show, and it sounds
Speaker 3: like maybe I like him a little bit more than Bogs,
Speaker 3: But I know we're kind of up against it on
Speaker 3: time We'll table the Christian Kirk conversation for now and
Speaker 3: come back to it, but I'm not necessarily looking to
Speaker 3: sell him. Who's your last cell High That's Nick Chubb.
Speaker 3: He's had an awesome career, one of the best pure
Speaker 3: runners of the last decade. But I am fading the
Speaker 3: injury recovery optimism on a twenty eight year old high
Speaker 3: mileage running back who's coming off a torn ACL, torn MCL,
Speaker 3: torn meniscus, an injury that took two surgeries to repair.
Speaker 3: And Chubb had also sustained a major knee injury in
Speaker 3: college in twenty fifteen when he towards MCLPCL and LCL
Speaker 3: plus had some cartilage damage. I love the guy, but
Speaker 3: I'm totally out on Chobb in dynasty after last year's injury.
Speaker 2: You know, I will say it might sound surprising people
Speaker 2: who agree with you, like, oh, that injury was so
Speaker 2: terrible and he's an aging running back, how would anybody
Speaker 2: be interested by him? We had a Bold Predictions episode
Speaker 2: earlier this week with myself, Debro and Erickson, and I
Speaker 2: asked the audience to, you know, tweet us some of
Speaker 2: their predictions, and one of them was something to the
Speaker 2: effective Nick Chubb will be a top ten running back
Speaker 2: this season, So there are folks out there who are
Speaker 2: buying in the injury recovery optimism. He's ranked RB twenty
Speaker 2: eight in our early ECR, you know, which is Dynasty still,
Speaker 2: so you know you can judge how much that's been updated.
Speaker 2: But I just, yeah, I don't know how you could
Speaker 2: possibly feel good about trying to acquire him, But you
Speaker 2: might have somebody in your league that is just a
Speaker 2: huge fan loves watching him run and thinks, you know,
Speaker 2: he's young enough that he can bounce back.
Speaker 1: Bogwen, what do you make a Chubb right now?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of those ones that I was
Speaker 2: jealous that fit Scott to the page before me, because
Speaker 2: I absolutely agree with the selling him right now. It's
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb is a awesome running back, but this knee
Speaker 2: entry was brutal. He makes a lot of money. He's
Speaker 2: a cut candidate still. I think, you know, I thought
Speaker 2: he would be cut by now, so he's probably just
Speaker 2: going to restructure and be fine for June first and
Speaker 2: all that stuff. But you know, I thought Jerome Ford
Speaker 2: did a good job. They brought in Deontay Forman as well,
Speaker 2: who's a decent backup, So I just don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know that we get the Nick Chubb that we're
Speaker 2: used to seeing. So I'm agree. I will agree on
Speaker 2: selling him.
Speaker 3: It was such a bad injury that I saw the
Speaker 3: I don't think they even showed it on TV at
Speaker 3: the day.
Speaker 1: They didn't know it was against the Twitter.
Speaker 3: Of course you could find the video on Twitter. I
Speaker 3: watched it that like, that was the only time I've
Speaker 3: watched it. I've never wanted to see that again. It
Speaker 3: was a bad enough injury.
Speaker 2: I tweeted something from the from the Fantasy pros account
Speaker 2: that was like a very earnest like this is terrible,
Speaker 2: what a fun player to watch.
Speaker 1: Hope he recovers.
Speaker 2: And people were like like emotional, they're like mad about it,
Speaker 2: Like they were like, uh like to like like as
Speaker 2: if it was a joker something, which she definitely wasn't,
Speaker 2: And it was like, I'm just like, I want to
Speaker 2: watch Nick Chubb run.
Speaker 1: He's so fun as a running back.
Speaker 2: I just yeah, a huge, huge fan and that was
Speaker 2: such such a crusher to see last season. By the way,
Speaker 2: He's RB twenty three in our early twenty twenty four rankings.
Speaker 2: RB twenty eight in our Dynasty rankings right now, I
Speaker 2: think it's too high. In both Bogman Final Sell high
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy was wide receiver fifty one, but I don't
Speaker 2: see that. I don't think that that is how he
Speaker 2: has been perceived after being traded to Cleveland. I mean,
Speaker 2: we just mentioned Nick Chubb, right, people are saying, well,
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb is down, Cooper's older, We're gonna get Watson back.
Speaker 2: They got Judy and they extended him. I just don't
Speaker 2: believe in Judy even a little bit. He suffered through
Speaker 2: some truly awful quarterback play. But when a guy like
Speaker 2: Courtland Sutton can make it work, I don't have any
Speaker 2: excuses for Judy. Judy was ninety second in PFF receiving
Speaker 2: grave last year, one hundred and fifty first of one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty three I think, or something and contested
Speaker 2: catch percentage. He can't separate. He was eighty five of
Speaker 2: ninety four wide receivers against man coverage. He was middle
Speaker 2: of the road against zone. He can run after the
Speaker 2: catch a little bit, he can find the hole in
Speaker 2: the zone. But unless effort is the problem, and I
Speaker 2: don't think it is, He's a middle of the pack
Speaker 2: wide receiver that shouldn't be useful for more than a
Speaker 2: bench level, and I think some people are gonna see
Speaker 2: him as more than that because he's a buzzy name
Speaker 2: that got traded and then got extended by Cleveland. So
Speaker 2: I'm completely off of the Jerry Judy train. Yeah, Fits,
Speaker 2: I'm curious to your opinion here before we up. And
Speaker 2: it's not just like the pedigree or the fact that
Speaker 2: he was traded. It's the fact that they did kind
Speaker 2: of pay him. You know, in a market where mid
Speaker 2: level receivers aren't necessarily always getting paid because you can
Speaker 2: get the cheaper rookie, especially in a class like this,
Speaker 2: we were surprising that they didn't just wait and take
Speaker 2: one right like that was Yes, I agree, And so
Speaker 2: it's confusing to me. And it's the only thing that
Speaker 2: gives me pause from being overly pessimistic about Judy, which
Speaker 2: is they did pay him, and so you would think
Speaker 2: they have plans to utilize them and help them like
Speaker 2: break out to a different degree. Or maybe that's just
Speaker 2: kind of being overly optimistic.
Speaker 3: What do you think, Fits, I don't think we should
Speaker 3: be confused about it. I think the Browns front office
Speaker 3: just made a colossal blunder giving him that sort of money.
Speaker 3: And you know, Boggs was very nice and not questioning
Speaker 3: Jerry Judy's effort, but we know Steve Smith was not
Speaker 3: as diplomatic when discussing Jerry Judy's effort, like, and I
Speaker 3: kind of agree with Steve Smith on that. So I
Speaker 3: don't know, Like I was really excited about Judy coming
Speaker 3: up to college. I thought this was the guy who
Speaker 3: was going to be an exceptional route runner and really
Speaker 3: extraordinary after the catch. I haven't really seen a lot
Speaker 3: of that, So I'm I'm with Bogs. I'm just out
Speaker 3: here And if anyone wants to like follow the money
Speaker 3: and believe that Jerry Judy is going to be this
Speaker 3: impactful guy in Cleveland, have at it. Give me a
Speaker 3: late second or even in early third, and I'd be thrilled.
Speaker 2: We will get out of there on that. Thank you
Speaker 2: everybody for listening to this supersized episode of Bilo Sell
Speaker 2: High Dynasty candidates for Bogman and Fitz, I am Ryan Warmley.
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