Speaker 1: With a rendre from New York.
Speaker 2: I'm from New York.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you grew up just partying and raging.
Speaker 2: I want to say, grew up partying and raging.
Speaker 1: I was twelve years old. You were drinking.
Speaker 2: Now you took it too far. I was born in
Speaker 2: New York. I was born in Harlem, Mount Sinai. I
Speaker 2: was born yes, yes, New York. CARDI b New York concrete.
Speaker 2: You got to be born on the asphalt for you
Speaker 2: to actually be in New Yorker.
Speaker 1: So you're tough. You're getting fights in middle school shop.
Speaker 2: I was put a pin in that. So then two
Speaker 2: years old, I moved to Oakland, California, and I lived.
Speaker 1: So extra tough. No Harlem to Oakland.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you no. I was living with my
Speaker 2: great aunt and great uncles. So I lived in a
Speaker 2: very like old neighborhood. Like everybody was over sixty five
Speaker 2: years old. All my neighbors, everybody nobody was young, went
Speaker 2: to church with older people. So I became like an
Speaker 2: old soul.
Speaker 1: Like it was just so you hung out with geezers
Speaker 1: all the time, all elderly people.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, no, no, I'm.
Speaker 1: From bukers On, Florida. So those were tied the Oakland
Speaker 1: of Florida.
Speaker 2: No different because it's retired, like money citizen. These are
Speaker 2: like oh they they were in the civil rights movement.
Speaker 2: They were passing out bean pies.
Speaker 1: So it's like Stokey Carmichael, whoever that is Huey.
Speaker 2: Newton, Yes, Huey Newton if he had diabetes.
Speaker 1: And you know missing toes.
Speaker 2: Missing toes.
Speaker 1: Yes, So so you grew up in Oakland, Yes, grew
Speaker 1: up in Oakland and you were drinking. You're popping ex pills.
Speaker 2: They didn't let me do anything I had to have.
Speaker 2: They didn't let me have cereal that had sugar, and
Speaker 2: I had the regular corn flakes regular. And then I
Speaker 2: would have to say my great aunt and uncles, I
Speaker 2: live with him. I didn't live in my moum. You didn't. No,
Speaker 2: I was with it. They raise me.
Speaker 1: Wow, you're a wild child.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So from two to thirteen I live with them,
Speaker 2: and very like old school. I couldn't have any friends.
Speaker 2: I only was with my cousins.
Speaker 1: I couldn't have friends. How was that old school? That's
Speaker 1: not that's not a real thing. No, I can't have friends.
Speaker 2: I think, very like religious.
Speaker 1: But they were Jehovah's witness.
Speaker 2: They were not Jehovah's Jehovah's witness.
Speaker 1: They were you believe only one hundred and forty four
Speaker 1: thousand people get No.
Speaker 2: They just was like, the Lord is your friend. You
Speaker 2: don't need friends.
Speaker 1: So they were like, yes, yes, that's where we were.
Speaker 1: That's how they work.
Speaker 2: You've never been to church, never was, It's clearly. I
Speaker 2: was like, this is a bad impersonation of church and
Speaker 2: Jewish Catholic.
Speaker 1: I knew this religious.
Speaker 2: I said, he's not gonna get it right, and I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna get struck down because of this.
Speaker 1: I will yeah, go to Hell already. I don't care.
Speaker 2: You see the light click right now because it is easy.
Speaker 2: Are you?
Speaker 1: Are you very spiritual as well? Do you have a
Speaker 1: Wigi board?
Speaker 2: Well that's not spiritual, yes it is. No, it's not.
Speaker 2: I talked to the undead that the Ouiji board is
Speaker 2: for the heathens. We don't do that. I'm not trying
Speaker 2: to revoke the spirits.
Speaker 1: Oh I revoke the spirits.
Speaker 2: No, we're not doing that.
Speaker 1: So anyway, I'm playing records backwards. I'm pooring purple fucking
Speaker 1: candles on my chest.
Speaker 2: It's crazy that you were like, you were doing drugs
Speaker 2: and you're drinking it. As a kid, I couldn't even
Speaker 2: have sugar because they had everything they had with sugar free.
Speaker 1: Oh so you had a very almost a rigid upbringing. Yes,
Speaker 1: so rigid that when you turn thirteen you started popping
Speaker 1: pills and no, okay, when did the drugs and then
Speaker 1: drinking come up?
Speaker 2: I'm going to say. I'm going to say, like, I
Speaker 2: went to college, and I remember Absolute Citron had a
Speaker 2: choke hold on me. So I was drinking that and
Speaker 2: ninety nine apples solely ras hypnotic. It was that. But
Speaker 2: that's college. That's college. Yes, Like, no, no, no, we
Speaker 2: passed them hard limited. We don't no, no, no, we
Speaker 2: didn't do none of straight. Massachusetts were in Massachusetts, Worcester.
Speaker 2: I went to Clark University.
Speaker 1: You went there, you went to school, fucking dude.
Speaker 2: I was working at the Auba mall. I was going
Speaker 2: to ask her a secret. Yeah, it was a good time.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say that drugs happened like right after college
Speaker 2: because I was interning at a public relations firm and
Speaker 2: nightlife for that I kind of got hooked up somebody
Speaker 2: from there. Okay, I had a friend that was I
Speaker 2: was interning with. She went to university in Miami or whatever.
Speaker 2: She was like, Oh, they party there, And I had
Speaker 2: never been to Miami, so I didn't know how they party.
Speaker 2: But she always would like have all this energy and
Speaker 2: we'd be at the clubs and she was like jumping
Speaker 2: off banquettes and dancing all night. And I was like,
Speaker 2: how does she doing this? Like it's not just baka cran.
Speaker 2: Eventually I asked her. I was like, Yo, what's up
Speaker 2: with this? She was like, Oh, it's party goods. So
Speaker 2: the line was really long, and she's like, we don't
Speaker 2: need to do it in the bathroom. We went outside.
Speaker 1: This is after college. After college, this happened in New York.
Speaker 2: This happened in New York though. She but I'm saying
Speaker 2: she's a Miami person. So yes, so from Miami. The
Speaker 2: reason why of the story is about to come. Then
Speaker 2: you'll see what I'm talking about. So she's that we're
Speaker 2: outside in the nightclub, and she's like, we're just gonna
Speaker 2: do the bumps outside, which is not a New York thing.
Speaker 2: We don't do that, but she says that's how to
Speaker 2: do it in Miami. It's not a big deal. So
Speaker 2: she does some and before I could even get a
Speaker 2: bump in, the DT's come undercover cops. They're in a
Speaker 2: Texi and so the first time I was about to
Speaker 2: do cocaine, couldn't because the undercover cops come. I throw
Speaker 2: the bag. Literally they catch it.
Speaker 1: They catch it. It was like hops catch.
Speaker 2: The catch I literally I threw it into the hands
Speaker 2: pretty much. They catch it.
Speaker 1: And so why did you do that?
Speaker 2: Because foolish. I was scared. I heard that, I heard them,
Speaker 2: and I threw it and it was.
Speaker 1: The worst situation.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, they they laughed at how foolish I was.
Speaker 2: So then you were like, yeah, exactly. And so so
Speaker 2: then I'm crying immediately because I was like, we're going
Speaker 2: to jail. We're going to jail. And my friend, she's short, Latina,
Speaker 2: also Jewish, big titties.
Speaker 1: And her numbers.
Speaker 2: Knockers knock or hit you in the face.
Speaker 1: Is she coming over the way?
Speaker 2: She was so calm, She's like, we're going to be fine,
Speaker 2: and I was like, tears coming over. We're going to jail.
Speaker 2: I don't having money. I'm a black woman. This is crazy.
Speaker 2: They come and they look at us and they take
Speaker 2: our D's and they see where she's from, and they're like,
Speaker 2: what are you doing over here? Why are you doing
Speaker 2: such a thing? And then me tears just streaming down,
Speaker 2: and then they're looking at her like why are you
Speaker 2: hanging out with me? They think I'm the bad guy,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, hey, I ain't never done this before.
Speaker 2: I don't even get none. Check my blood. There's no
Speaker 2: drugs inside of it test right now. Literally, no party
Speaker 2: goods have been in my system. So then they go
Speaker 2: through her wallet and they look and through stuff, and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, they're like, all right, come with us.
Speaker 2: They don't handcuff us, they don't law and order us.
Speaker 2: There's no Miranda rights, no click click nothing. We're in
Speaker 2: the back of the taxi. The taxi because they're in
Speaker 2: a taxi car. They're in an undercover Yes, it was
Speaker 2: in a yellow cab. We get in the back of
Speaker 2: the cab and they're like, so, what y'all want to eat?
Speaker 2: And she she was like see, and I was like okay,
Speaker 2: and I'm still scared. I was like, oh, they're gonna
Speaker 2: murder us, Like they're gonna go eat. They take us
Speaker 2: to a diner and she's like, order whatever you want. Like,
Speaker 2: it was just big titty energy, like we're gonna, We're gonna.
Speaker 1: They were like you guys, yes, they were just like,
Speaker 1: forget about the coke, let's go on a little date.
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty much. I was like, Oh, I just want
Speaker 2: a side of eggs and like toast. She's like, she's
Speaker 2: like getting waffles, Get get a grand slam, bitch, whatever
Speaker 2: you want.
Speaker 1: She's like hustler, yes exactly.
Speaker 2: Because she's lit and she's having a good time. They
Speaker 2: stay with us for like two hours.
Speaker 1: They asked her, ma.
Speaker 2: She's married now, but she can she's free as a bird,
Speaker 2: So then, wow, you would have actually liked her. She's
Speaker 2: a reform woman. And now anyways, they drop us off.
Speaker 2: She's like, can you believe they didn't give us our
Speaker 2: coke back? I spent my last fifty on the on
Speaker 2: the coke. She gets it. She had gotten their number
Speaker 2: at the dock. She said, I'm gonna call them up.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get our drugs back.
Speaker 1: A woman, maybe you blow her maybe.
Speaker 2: Years later, I'm like, girl, can you remember that time
Speaker 2: we were supposed to get arrested? And I'm thinking I
Speaker 2: was like, it's because you're so hot, you're boobs. She's like, no,
Speaker 2: my cousin's a cop. They saw the little car. There's
Speaker 2: a card when like you're a relative of like, wait,
Speaker 2: how do I get that you got cop relatives? There
Speaker 2: was something there's something like some kind of like waiver
Speaker 2: or something like. But for the longest time, I was
Speaker 2: like I and I was flat as a board. I
Speaker 2: was like, it's because I don't have titties.
Speaker 1: I need titties. Based on that, yeah.
Speaker 2: Afterwards, afterwards, I was like and she was like, no, girl,
Speaker 2: I have a you know, we and a fam. What
Speaker 2: are you talking about? And so it blew mine the
Speaker 2: whole time. I was like she she's she's a shortie,
Speaker 2: she's a chicken nugget, but she's got bodies. She got
Speaker 2: the boo and she got the like Miami like you know,
Speaker 2: you're doing what I say, like dominatrix energy, and she's
Speaker 2: the whole time, and she actually hit them up for
Speaker 2: her drugs. I said, girl, if you go to jail
Speaker 2: or end up dead, they don't have nothing to do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredible woman. What a powerful woman with a
Speaker 1: recdre