Speaker 1: If you're about to make a change in your life
Speaker 1: and you feel uncomfortable, that's the best feeling you can
Speaker 1: have because for the first time in your life, you'll
Speaker 1: make a new decision that's going to be best for
Speaker 1: you and not what somebody told you to do. And
Speaker 1: that's when all bets are off. Welcome to Money Making
Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass. I'm your host with Shan McDonald. Our theme
Speaker 1: is there's no perfect time to start following your dreams.
Speaker 1: I recognize that we all have different definitions of success.
Speaker 1: For you and maybe the size of your HM. It's
Speaker 1: time to stop reading other people's success stories to start
Speaker 1: living your own keep winning. My guest, longtime friend, powerhouse
Speaker 1: and real estate broker and designer Egypt Taraud and a husband.
Speaker 1: He's newby life, like I've stated, builder Mike Jackson. They're
Speaker 1: based in Atlanta. If you can be a dreamer and
Speaker 1: you want to dream about it your home or your fantasy,
Speaker 1: your place that you want to rest your head and
Speaker 1: your family, think about it. Egypt will design it and
Speaker 1: Mike will build it. That's a slogan, not buying.
Speaker 2: That's theirs.
Speaker 1: They know plenty by juggling the booming property business, pleasing clients,
Speaker 1: managing their home and raising three daughters. And they are
Speaker 1: beautiful dollars, so precious, especially the young one when he
Speaker 1: had when you have this one scene when he walking
Speaker 1: around with a pamp on.
Speaker 2: His head, You're gonna love him.
Speaker 1: They make it look effortless and fun in an HGTV
Speaker 1: series Marriage to Real Estate. You can also catch Egypt
Speaker 1: and Mike's guest judges in the last season of HGTV's
Speaker 1: mega hit home renovation competition series Rock the Block, where
Speaker 1: you see four competing teams. We're looking at the renovation.
Speaker 3: King and Queen King and Queen of AHG TV. We
Speaker 3: claim and thank you for Sean. We appreciate that love.
Speaker 3: And you are absolutely right. I've been around you and
Speaker 3: I we know each other quite well.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but it's a good but you know something each
Speaker 1: it's a good been around because all the time I've
Speaker 1: always seen you. First of all, your personality has been positive.
Speaker 1: And one thing I've loved about her, Mike, is that
Speaker 1: you know opportunities. She's not She's fearless because that's what
Speaker 1: a lot of people do. Because met her in radio
Speaker 1: and so when some people start saying I want to
Speaker 1: do something else. They can get so locked and comfortable,
Speaker 1: they don't do it, and so and so, so many
Speaker 1: different levels and so and that was that was that
Speaker 1: was urban radio that she was in, Okay, and then
Speaker 1: she can't Now she's coming into another area of I
Speaker 1: want to say, just there's not we don't see many
Speaker 1: black people, won't see so many people of color like
Speaker 1: you too. That's why it's so refreshing to see that.
Speaker 1: And I like to believe this is something we're going
Speaker 1: to see on the regular basis. But and seeing the
Speaker 1: first two episodes of your new series, Marriage to Real Estate,
Speaker 1: I found a family environment that I was engaged with.
Speaker 1: But more importantly, this is what y'all do. I never
Speaker 1: questioned that you guys who are prop I never caught
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that that's what can happen. You know,
Speaker 1: they get a cute couple like you guys, you got
Speaker 1: the cute little children. You know, they say, y'all be
Speaker 1: a great TV show. It's no doubt in my mind
Speaker 1: this is what y'all do. But each I have to
Speaker 1: go back to this because you know, this is I
Speaker 1: call this my masterclass series. Because you're talking about people
Speaker 1: in a market. Now, we all know it's hard to
Speaker 1: get a home out that nowadays. Okay, it's sometimes thirty
Speaker 1: people waiting on the same building and trying to call
Speaker 1: their home. How did y'all how did y'all? How were
Speaker 1: y'all able to do a series and this type of
Speaker 1: real estate boom where homes are scarce and people is
Speaker 1: trying to make a decision on different properties while you're
Speaker 1: doing the show.
Speaker 3: So, Ri Sean, you know, I'm a real estate broker.
Speaker 3: It's what I've done for, you know, twenty years. And
Speaker 3: that also means that I've lived through and strived through
Speaker 3: and grew through every real estate environment. You know, when
Speaker 3: the bubble burst and you know, people were losing their
Speaker 3: houses and needed to be saved with short you know,
Speaker 3: from foreclosures with short sales. I coached them through it
Speaker 3: and help clients through that. Now we're in an environment
Speaker 3: where first time home buyers are being edged how completely.
Speaker 3: Even experienced home buyers are like one of thirty different
Speaker 3: offers and listenings are going for fifty sixty seventy thousand
Speaker 3: over ass in price. I mean, it's crazy out here
Speaker 3: right now, but I think that this is what I've
Speaker 3: been built for. If that makes sense, all these years
Speaker 3: of working through living, through existing, through buying, through renovating,
Speaker 3: through in our own lives has prepared us for this
Speaker 3: moment where we can help our clients through and there.
Speaker 3: If I told you the hows and would, I would
Speaker 3: be giving away all my tricks of the trade when
Speaker 3: I go up against other offers. So I won't go there.
Speaker 3: But what I will say is stay encouraged. And if
Speaker 3: you're in the market to buy a home, make sure
Speaker 3: all real estate agents were not created equal. They were not.
Speaker 3: You take a class, you get a license if you
Speaker 3: pass the test. But what you want is a seasoned,
Speaker 3: experience shown and proven real estate professional who can coach
Speaker 3: you and come up with a strategy to help you,
Speaker 3: you know, get successfully to the line.
Speaker 1: Great now, Mike, you know when I google Egypt, you know,
Speaker 1: a lot of things pop up. Pictures, photos, she's posing
Speaker 1: this way, posing this way, television show, television show. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just a background into entertainment. You this business or
Speaker 1: I just see a reference to a business. Give us
Speaker 1: a little background on your journey into a home building,
Speaker 1: renovations and in this market, and so we can get
Speaker 1: assist your culture and your expertise.
Speaker 2: Definitely. Definitely.
Speaker 4: So I've been in construction, I want to say since
Speaker 4: I was a kid.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 4: I started with my uncle and my grandfather. They had
Speaker 4: a construction company, would and they would always bring me
Speaker 4: along future forward. I started with the local twenty eight
Speaker 4: trade in New York City where I was a journeysman
Speaker 4: for sheet metalwork, right, and then I transitioned into owning
Speaker 4: my own company, which is Jackson Draper Renovations, where we
Speaker 4: pretty much do it all carpentry, plumbing, electricity, you know,
Speaker 4: exterior work, all of the above. It's myself and my uncle,
Speaker 4: my partner, which is you'll see him on the show
Speaker 4: as well.
Speaker 2: His name is Mark.
Speaker 4: And this is what I do. You know, my wife
Speaker 4: and I were teaming up what you're seeing on the
Speaker 4: show where we're trying to merge the two businesses under
Speaker 4: one umbrella, you know, bring a real estate construction design.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one design house, one design house. But you gotta
Speaker 3: you're gonna tell her. I don't think he knows the
Speaker 3: full story that that's how we met.
Speaker 2: It is how we met.
Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, thank you kept his brother out like
Speaker 3: you do on the show. Anyway, he knew He's knew.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 4: It's not that I was trying not to take up
Speaker 4: too much of the time.
Speaker 1: I said, this is a masterclass we're teaching. We're educating
Speaker 1: people about this beautiful couple.
Speaker 4: Here's what was on my mind is why I didn't
Speaker 4: want to talk to much about me, because I wanted
Speaker 4: to piggyback off of the discussion you brought up in
Speaker 4: the beginning. As far as we're not being feelless, she's
Speaker 4: beyond that feelings. She's also selfless. Yes, she's the tipe
Speaker 4: to where she doesn't worry about what every one else
Speaker 4: is gonna think, despite of what it's cool or despite
Speaker 4: what's hot at the moment, She's gonna do what's gonna
Speaker 4: make sense for her and what is going to be
Speaker 4: successful for those around her, meaning family. It's not about
Speaker 4: the business or the hype of the business. It's about, Okay,
Speaker 4: what's smart for the moment and what's going to make
Speaker 4: sense in the future. So that's what I wanted to
Speaker 4: touch on. That's why I can go to first much into.
Speaker 3: Me than you.
Speaker 4: But yes, we met in our early stages. I was
Speaker 4: actually DJing and I still do periodically.
Speaker 3: Tell you when I met you I was a radio DJ.
Speaker 4: You know, we met in three separate incidents, but one
Speaker 4: of them took us back to where I ended up
Speaker 4: on a rooftop with her because she had her foot
Speaker 4: miril stuck in the room, you know, the shelf, please.
Speaker 2: Sean.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3: So, so I was flipping houses in New Work, New
Speaker 3: Jersey while I was a radio personality in New York City, right,
Speaker 3: And I'm a scorpio. And what that kind of means
Speaker 3: is if you back me into a corner, my stinger
Speaker 3: comes up and sometimes it goes overwhel but not always
Speaker 3: over overwhelmed in business, and so what happened was all
Speaker 3: my contractors walked off the job. Wow, because I came
Speaker 3: off way hard. It's hard to be a woman working
Speaker 3: in construction as well. You know, men don't always take
Speaker 3: that well. And so when you kind of come frock.
Speaker 1: Also in that part of the country, I'm just really chauvinistic.
Speaker 1: Well I can change for a fact, I've lived in
Speaker 1: New York, I've lived all this country. It gets really
Speaker 1: chauvinistic in that northeast part of the country, especially at
Speaker 1: Jersey area, it does.
Speaker 3: So they walked off the job, and I later found
Speaker 3: myself trying to tar a hole in the roof by myself,
Speaker 3: right and I fell through the roof, and in that
Speaker 3: moment I realized that I needed some help. I called
Speaker 3: my mentor at the time, who referred him oh guy, okay,
Speaker 3: And when he pulled up, I'm like, what are you
Speaker 3: doing here? You're a DJ.
Speaker 1: That's funny, that's funny.
Speaker 2: That's the rocky rooftop.
Speaker 1: Baby, right right right, right, right right right, I'm a.
Speaker 3: Moving walk all over this rooftop baby R word. I
Speaker 3: didn't know he was. I didn't know he was really
Speaker 3: also a businessman and he was a contractor. And you
Speaker 3: know that that DJing was a facet of what he did,
Speaker 3: but it wasn't all that all of who he was.
Speaker 3: And we kind of fell in love over that renovation.
Speaker 3: You saved my life.
Speaker 1: You save a shoe for show. You saved a shoe
Speaker 1: for show, for sure. You got that.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 1: The interesting thing about and that I shouldn't even say interesting,
Speaker 1: is that, you know, I tell everybody and when I
Speaker 1: look at television now, television is so fun for a
Speaker 1: person of color to me now, because I see us
Speaker 1: on television on those stories, I see us some commercials,
Speaker 1: inter racial commercials all it's all kinds of things that
Speaker 1: really make you feel comfortable when you turn on the
Speaker 1: TV and make you comfortable when you walk in the street. Okay,
Speaker 1: I guess we're cool now in a way because you
Speaker 1: can see me banking, me dating, me, having my Santa
Speaker 1: Claus is black, all that good stuff. And so our
Speaker 1: president was black yeahely so not vice president is black,
Speaker 1: So you know, becomes a little normal. We know it's
Speaker 1: not all normal. But then watching the show and seeing you, guys,
Speaker 1: what do you think is the most magical thing about
Speaker 1: you as a couple on TV talking to people, encouraging
Speaker 1: them making life decisions and then showing them that this
Speaker 1: is the best opportunity to move their life forward, sometimes
Speaker 1: as a couple and sometimes as a family.
Speaker 3: I think that for us, we have these conversations often,
Speaker 3: right because as a black family, you know, on national
Speaker 3: television where you're not just talking to an African American audience.
Speaker 3: You know, questions come up even in advisory if you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, You're you're an advisor as well.
Speaker 3: With Sean, you know, an advisory it's you know, what
Speaker 3: do we need to change? Anything to appeal to the masses.
Speaker 3: And I think for us, the blessing in this entire
Speaker 3: experience is no one has asked us to change a
Speaker 3: thing Like I was on the Today Show in Dreadlocks.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. I there, Goddess lock, But
Speaker 3: no Monday when I think about it, like Monday, I
Speaker 3: shot a commercial, a commercial for the International Excuse me,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I shot a commercial for the Intercontinental Exchange
Speaker 3: for Ice stock market, and no one asked me to
Speaker 3: tone down anything like no attitude, no blackness, no nothing
Speaker 3: on our show. That's very much who we are and
Speaker 3: our network HGTV loves it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah like we want, we want y'all just as you are.
Speaker 3: I think that that is a blessing in it and
Speaker 3: just this whole experience our show, the idea that you know,
Speaker 3: we are black family successful. You know, we have beautiful children,
Speaker 3: who are sweet, who are educated. We're together. We you know,
Speaker 3: we're married. We don't have a broken home, which is
Speaker 3: what people stereotypically expect. We don't fight. There's no drama
Speaker 3: or gossip out there about us and you know, cheating
Speaker 3: and all this. Non people kind of expect that when
Speaker 3: they see African American families on TV that there's going
Speaker 3: to come a whole bag of tricks with it. And
Speaker 3: the blessing in this experience, not only that we get
Speaker 3: to do it together, is that there's no drama, and
Speaker 3: so we're showing we can do it too. We are
Speaker 3: doing it too. We've always been here. Thank god, you're
Speaker 3: just noticing it.
Speaker 1: Hey, Mike, I want to say this shed. She tries
Speaker 1: to set you up a couple of times, you know,
Speaker 1: when she comes in the room ask you just look baby,
Speaker 1: how does this look?
Speaker 2: Baby?
Speaker 1: And then she references, oh, you trying to say something
Speaker 1: about my wig. I said, oh, no, you trying to
Speaker 1: set my boy up.
Speaker 3: No, Mike, come on, byke, try to set you up.
Speaker 4: So, but to feedback over that as well as and
Speaker 4: answer your question with the magic part, I think the
Speaker 4: magic in it is that we are really doing the
Speaker 4: work right, don't step in and then say cut okay,
Speaker 4: somebody else come and do this. Yes, you be a couple,
Speaker 4: not just a black couple, a couple that is universally
Speaker 4: appealing to the masses.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: It's positive.
Speaker 4: It's full of family, it's full of education, it's full of.
Speaker 2: Information, right to where you can say.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm used to this. This sounds familiar, This looks familiar.
Speaker 2: I'm tuning in.
Speaker 3: But I think what's what it's good too, is you
Speaker 3: also see a little bit of our mess. You know,
Speaker 3: you can tell me drive my husband crazy.
Speaker 4: To see Egypt.
Speaker 3: What you ain't gonna do with my boy?
Speaker 2: Mike?
Speaker 1: He my boy, now my boy. Like I said, I
Speaker 1: just showed y'all two examples when you trying to set
Speaker 1: them up. You know what I'm saying, you know, talking
Speaker 1: about you, baby, I think I'm eating too much. Now,
Speaker 1: I think I've eaten too much?
Speaker 5: Baby?
Speaker 3: What you think?
Speaker 1: Uh, I'm not answering that question on TV. No, you
Speaker 1: ain't doing me like that, honey. You know, that's the
Speaker 1: fun part of what I'm talking about, this relationship, because
Speaker 1: that's what I do it my life, you know, because
Speaker 1: but it's captured on film organically, and I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: real about it.
Speaker 3: It ain't even by race now, it's about.
Speaker 1: Joining a couple. And that gives me information because I
Speaker 1: watch these shows. These are the type of shows that
Speaker 1: will be running where you're the car dealership, sitting there
Speaker 1: waiting on your car, these type of call these type
Speaker 1: of shows that are running when you're waiting in the
Speaker 1: hospital lobby, these type of shows that are just running.
Speaker 1: They're so comfortable because they're so informative. And that's the
Speaker 1: part of it that I love, because I love that
Speaker 1: part where you know you. You walk them through the house,
Speaker 1: you know you, and that's the part where you know
Speaker 1: if people know what they're talking about when you because
Speaker 1: people people really you know you're about to they about
Speaker 1: to give their life to you. And in some of
Speaker 1: these houses that you're walking in, you can't be so
Speaker 1: forceful that you feel like this is it a yaut
Speaker 1: But that walks through that whole part of creating that
Speaker 1: organic relationship. Mike as a builder, because she's the face
Speaker 1: of the she's the dreamer, but you have to put
Speaker 1: it together and then she comes in and she a
Speaker 1: change on you. Well, I didn't want it like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, come on, Ben, don't do Mike like
Speaker 1: that on film. Don't do it like that on film.
Speaker 3: But he laughs at all.
Speaker 2: I loved it.
Speaker 3: I loved I loved it.
Speaker 1: I loved it when the floor was gold and the
Speaker 1: other floor was brown. On the floor was just you go,
Speaker 1: oh baby, where I got you? I got you? And
Speaker 1: she walked with, Okay, I'll be back walking walking walking
Speaker 1: into I'm gonna just tell you a couple of thing
Speaker 1: that really messed him up.
Speaker 3: She on the construction site, y'all.
Speaker 1: She walking there with heels on, open.
Speaker 3: Toes, open toes, open toes here because Mike said, remember Mike,
Speaker 3: my day, I might be with my real estate clients.
Speaker 3: I still need to look professional. They don't understand me
Speaker 3: coming in and work though.
Speaker 4: In the car talking to talk to me, Mike, talk
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 3: Mike said, you step on the nail.
Speaker 5: You just step on the nail.
Speaker 4: Shohn.
Speaker 3: I thought, I thought me and you were a friend.
Speaker 3: Now you're taking hitside.
Speaker 1: Because you know the thing about it is that you
Speaker 1: know in these shows, because you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: I I love the fact that the potential of who
Speaker 1: y'all are to me. I'm comfortable. I want to watch.
Speaker 2: I want to learn.
Speaker 1: I want to say, can I get that? Can I
Speaker 1: get them to do that to my house?
Speaker 2: That's what I know.
Speaker 1: It's special because I'm going like, because you know, I've
Speaker 1: done a lot of remodeling. You know how people come
Speaker 1: going so how they pulling that off and it looks
Speaker 1: so beautiful. But again, like I was saying, Mike, you
Speaker 1: are the builder. You know, she comes up.
Speaker 3: With these pricings.
Speaker 1: Well, we can only do it for one hundred thousand.
Speaker 5: We can all do it.
Speaker 1: And they don't know that the gas meters sitting over
Speaker 1: there where the window gonna be, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Don't know that though, you know, but she's gonna tell
Speaker 1: everybody we're gonna put a window there. You got to
Speaker 1: come in and go, hey baby, it's a gas metering there.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, we'll take care, honey, I love you, smooches.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: She'll give them the division, your sir, and then I
Speaker 4: will uh you know, softly bring it back down to reality,
Speaker 4: make them feel comfortable, allow them to trust me, you know,
Speaker 4: one with smart decisions, showing them how we can get
Speaker 4: there if for some reason they can't afford how we
Speaker 4: can get there doing for less, but by doing different options, right.
Speaker 4: I think it's all about listening and letting them speak
Speaker 4: and let him be heard, allowing them to let you
Speaker 4: know exactly what they want, and then you coming in
Speaker 4: and making it feel relatable.
Speaker 3: You know, Sean, what I love about this man and
Speaker 3: why this works is because he lets me be me.
Speaker 3: He knows that you're right. I'm a dreamer, I'm a visionary.
Speaker 3: I'm going to show everything in its purest potential, and
Speaker 3: he'll let me live that out right, and then he'll
Speaker 3: humbly bring everybody back down to earth in everything that
Speaker 3: he does. He even I get carsick, you know, so
Speaker 3: I have to drive, and that's when when anybody's driving.
Speaker 3: Even if someone says a car with a driver for me,
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know if I want I want
Speaker 3: to drive because I get really carsick. You know, a
Speaker 3: lot of man Raseean wouldn't be comfortable with their wife
Speaker 3: behind the wheel, if you know what I mean. So
Speaker 3: on for seventeen and a half years, he'll sit in
Speaker 3: the passenger seat and let me drive and be okay
Speaker 3: with that, you know, And he's still the lead. He
Speaker 3: still leaves our family.
Speaker 2: Even though I got my foot on that second break.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely absolutely worried about that seven year itch.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that seven year itch. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But you know, the beauty of
Speaker 1: our if we go through the episodes, you don't do
Speaker 1: this show alone. You have three wonderful children. They're girls,
Speaker 1: They're a part of the show. Andre's part of the show.
Speaker 1: Like say, y'all was part of the show. Talk about
Speaker 1: the overall casting and the need to organically, you know,
Speaker 1: introduce your family. And like I said, I've almost told
Speaker 1: the first two episodes, so more people are going to
Speaker 1: be introduced. What was the whole theory behind the introduction?
Speaker 1: Are you trying to just let everybody know this is us?
Speaker 1: Or what was the whole background behind that whole process.
Speaker 3: I think people had to kind of get to know
Speaker 3: us first, right, who Egypt is, who Mike is, who
Speaker 3: we are as a couple, who we are as a
Speaker 3: family with our children. But really for our businesses to work,
Speaker 3: we could never do alone. We got a whole army
Speaker 3: behind us, and we want people to embrace them as well,
Speaker 3: normally with normalcy. So you know, we kind of got
Speaker 3: to ease him in. Let you, let you learn everybody.
Speaker 3: So Andre is a designer friend of mine. He's super talented.
Speaker 3: He's done some of the biggest design houses in Atlanta
Speaker 3: and all over the country. But but really, when everything's
Speaker 3: off and we let our hair down, he's one of
Speaker 3: my best friends. So he's the person that I call
Speaker 3: if I'm like, I can't figure out this room. I
Speaker 3: need some input, right And when I'm I'm doing my
Speaker 3: my child's room, it's like I want, I need second eyes.
Speaker 3: But Mike can't stand it.
Speaker 4: Whenever my phone is dinging from my bank notifications.
Speaker 3: Andre has very high elite taste. You know, I do
Speaker 3: everything kind of on a budget on my own. But
Speaker 3: when he comes in, the price triples. So Mike's I
Speaker 3: love you, but you gotta go bro.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, but let's let's talk about the price and all that,
Speaker 1: because you know this is we're not telling about this series.
Speaker 1: But that's that's that's what the experience comes in. That's
Speaker 1: when to walk into a property and give an estimate
Speaker 1: of what it's going to take to get there. And Mike,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to you as a builder, as a
Speaker 1: person who really is the nuts and boats of renovation.
Speaker 1: How does that process work for you that you trust
Speaker 1: your natural instincts or do you have a roller dex?
Speaker 1: Did you just go you fall back on to be
Speaker 1: able to make sure that you hit that number.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well a lot of relationships for one, with subs,
Speaker 4: with a lot of big box stores, with a lot
Speaker 4: of friends, you know, So those relationships, I keep those
Speaker 4: in mind as I'm going through properties. But in this
Speaker 4: day and age where wood and materials are fluctuating in
Speaker 4: price and sometimes overpriced, I have to get creative, you know,
Speaker 4: where we go to refurbished properties or refurbished warehouses and
Speaker 4: use materials or I use things that I may have
Speaker 4: in my warehouse you know. Yeah, we actually did that
Speaker 4: on so many episodes, where we reuse things, repurpose them right.
Speaker 2: And make them look updated. You know.
Speaker 4: It's not always about let's let's demolish this and make
Speaker 4: a great scene. It's about let's do the smart decisions
Speaker 4: that's going to make sense so we can hit that target.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're shot. Sometimes we got to give the
Speaker 3: bad news, you know, and the bad news is this
Speaker 3: is your budget, but we just can't do it for
Speaker 3: that budget because the reality is stuffs out to stop.
Speaker 3: You know, it may costs forty percent more than what
Speaker 3: it would have cost last year or six six months ago.
Speaker 3: That's when I let him give the bad news.
Speaker 4: So material not really have materials went up, but the
Speaker 4: price of laborers went up as well. Right, So people
Speaker 4: are extremely shocked by pricing. So some of some of
Speaker 4: my clients that booked our company, they are now calling
Speaker 4: and getting sideswiped. You know, Sotory at.
Speaker 1: This moment, Well, we're talking to Egypt Shirod she's the queen,
Speaker 1: and Mike Jackson he's the king, and you're married to
Speaker 1: real estate is an exciting show. It's a show. The
Speaker 1: reason I say it's exciting because they're refreshing, they're entertaining.
Speaker 1: I want to invite them into my home. You will
Speaker 1: invite them into your home. You know, No, Egypt Hurrah,
Speaker 1: she is the experts, she's the queen. I've already respect
Speaker 1: her my long This is just not being based on
Speaker 1: my long time relationship. When I mentioned her name in
Speaker 1: my house, my wife knew immediately who she was, and
Speaker 1: that was to be a testament that my wife respects
Speaker 1: you and wants to be excited about this. Venture for
Speaker 1: you guys. More importantly, I just see a couple of
Speaker 1: stars of TV that's gonna like take over the game.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you something. I'm humble when I
Speaker 1: say that because I'm blessed that I can say that.
Speaker 1: I couldn't say this five years ago. That's how times
Speaker 1: have changed. You guys are landing at the right time
Speaker 1: on TV. It's nothing on that show that I was
Speaker 1: not disappointed in. I was it was funny, it was organic,
Speaker 1: it was natural. I felt like it was a couple
Speaker 1: just happens to have a camera following them around on
Speaker 1: a on a rebuild. That's all I saw.
Speaker 3: That means a lot coming from Seawan. We know you
Speaker 3: know talent. We know that you you know you've helped
Speaker 3: mold talent as well. And I actually remember a conversation.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember it, but I'm gonna
Speaker 3: take you down memory lane just a little bit before
Speaker 3: we go. I was working at WBLS in New York
Speaker 3: City and I said with Sean, I got to keep
Speaker 3: this on the down low, but I'm thinking about making
Speaker 3: the move to Atlanta, right and I know that you're
Speaker 3: in Atlanta. What do you think is that a good
Speaker 3: move for me. And you said, come on, come over
Speaker 3: here to my office, which by the way, happened to
Speaker 3: be like a little production clot at that moment, that moment,
Speaker 3: and you sat me down and you said, listen, this
Speaker 3: is the deal. Atlanta is for big dogs. Everybody's a
Speaker 3: star in Atlanta. Everybody's got something going on in Atlanta.
Speaker 2: You got some.
Speaker 3: Incredible young black entrepreneurs there. And so if you're coming Atlanta,
Speaker 3: you got to have your stuff together. So you get
Speaker 3: your game plan first and then you work you plan.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you if you remember this conversation,
Speaker 3: but it sticks out to me because moving here from
Speaker 3: New York after cementing myself as a radio personality there
Speaker 3: for many years, was a big, bold move and it
Speaker 3: was you know, it took a lot of you know,
Speaker 3: it took a lot of guts, and you know, for
Speaker 3: us to just say we're gonna take a chance and
Speaker 3: bet on ourselves and rebuild in an entirely different city
Speaker 3: where we didn't know anybody, and it was Egypt.
Speaker 1: And I had several great conversations because you know, she
Speaker 1: followed us Steve Harvey, now, you know, and so we
Speaker 1: was always talking about radies. I always talked about women,
Speaker 1: always talking about but one thing I did like about
Speaker 1: us she always had multiple streams of income. Yeah, see
Speaker 1: right there, she was my friend because that's important in
Speaker 1: today's society to be able to wake up and realize
Speaker 1: you have options. And when I sat down, I remember
Speaker 1: that conversation because it's funny Egypt. I get that a
Speaker 1: lot from people said, well S, you remember when you
Speaker 1: told me this, And I have an honest side of
Speaker 1: me that I'm gonna tell you.
Speaker 2: Look, you need to stay up here.
Speaker 3: This is it.
Speaker 1: But I knew that she had a sense of a
Speaker 1: gift to be able to do more. But if you
Speaker 1: go down there, know what you're walking into because it's
Speaker 1: going to happen. And guess what, everything's time right. It
Speaker 1: is the new Hollywood.
Speaker 4: You know, the.
Speaker 1: Pricing is right. Y'all have a great show. I'm comfortable now.
Speaker 1: I just got to get y'all come by my house
Speaker 1: and remodel my backroing over there, so we don't talk
Speaker 1: about that all fan, you know, just come there. I'm
Speaker 1: just making sure y'all do Hey, I'm just making sure
Speaker 1: you don't end zoom. You know, you know, you know
Speaker 1: you're in these calls and then you go bye bye.
Speaker 1: I said, oh oh, they say, ain't gonna give me
Speaker 1: his numble?
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, No, no, no, no, but again.
Speaker 1: Watch this show Married to Real Estate Stars of Egypt,
Speaker 1: Charad my Man, Mike Jackson.
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