Speaker 1: Changing an environment should not be so taxing that you
Speaker 1: feel stretched twenty four to seven. At the end of
Speaker 1: the day, you cannot force your light into a dark space.
Speaker 2: Bom. Remember that that step back is God set up
Speaker 2: for his story. So that weight that you're feeling is
Speaker 2: not the weight of the world.
Speaker 3: It's the weight of your worth.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it is, but every time I
Speaker 1: get on this podcast, I feel the spirit of singing
Speaker 1: down in my soul. I wish I could explain it.
Speaker 1: I decided not to sing the song that was on
Speaker 1: my heart today because it is an old fifty cent song,
Speaker 1: but I will say, g unit we in this. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying or don't see, and that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I'm being transformed by the renewing of my mind.
Speaker 1: So I ain't even I ain't even do the part
Speaker 1: that I was gonna do because I'm being transformed and
Speaker 1: only which is profitable. She'll be on the Woman Evolve podcast. Okay,
Speaker 1: so how about that? How are you you know how
Speaker 1: we do take a minute assess for yourself, what's going
Speaker 1: on in your world? How are you feeling? Your girl
Speaker 1: is dog tired? Can I tell you that last night.
Speaker 1: I went to bed at nine thirty, which is early
Speaker 1: for me because I am usually up until about twelve,
Speaker 1: And depending on whether or not I'm taking the girls
Speaker 1: to school or working out, I could be up as
Speaker 1: early as four thirty, six thirty, or eight o'clock. It
Speaker 1: just depends. Eight o'clock is when my husband took the
Speaker 1: girls to school and I got to sleep in six
Speaker 1: thirties when I'm taking the girls to school, but I
Speaker 1: didn't work out before five am. No, four thirty is
Speaker 1: when I am working out taking the girls of school,
Speaker 1: and then have to work immediately after taking the girls school,
Speaker 1: so I don't have time to work out afterwards. So
Speaker 1: this week has been a mix of it all. But
Speaker 1: I am so tired. Oh can I tell y'all?
Speaker 4: Okay, so listen.
Speaker 1: This morning I had a five am workout, so that's
Speaker 1: probably why I'm tired. But I almost overslept, and I
Speaker 1: thought to myself as I was getting dressed, like, I wonder,
Speaker 1: am I stressed?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: Am I stressed? What does it feel like to be stressed?
Speaker 1: Can I talk to you people who be stressed and
Speaker 1: don't know what? Hey?
Speaker 4: How are you?
Speaker 1: We're stressed and we don't know it. It finally hit
Speaker 1: me that, like I am probably stressed, I am working
Speaker 1: on so many different things. Doesn't take a rocket scientist
Speaker 1: to know that I am giving everything I have to
Speaker 1: launching the Power Moves book. Outside of the things that
Speaker 1: you may be seeing on social media, I'm doing lots
Speaker 1: of interview, lots of press, lots of strategizing about how
Speaker 1: do you condense this message into bite sized content for press?
Speaker 1: What can I think about posting that is more than
Speaker 1: just a flyer but also points to the book. And also,
Speaker 1: we're going on tour, and this tour is different than
Speaker 1: any tour that we've ever done with Women Evolved, where
Speaker 1: what whereas Woman Evolve is like a Girl's night worship experience.
Speaker 1: It feels like a conference. This is not like a
Speaker 1: worship experience. This is a book tour. But I'm going
Speaker 1: to preach a little and I'm gonna have conversation partners.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure out, well, I have figured
Speaker 1: it out. Don't worry if you've bought your ticket. It's spectacular.
Speaker 1: So I'm trying to figure out exactly how I want
Speaker 1: the evening to flow. So I've been putting a lot
Speaker 1: of thought into that and we have different conversation partners
Speaker 1: for each city. So there's certain topics that I want
Speaker 1: certain people to cover, and so I'm having to do
Speaker 1: the work of really navigating how I'm going to align
Speaker 1: subject matter from the book with the conversation, and then
Speaker 1: seeking the Lord about like what do you want me
Speaker 1: to deposit in these cities, even if it's not Power Moves,
Speaker 1: like if it is something completely different, like being.
Speaker 4: Open to that. And it's just a lot period.
Speaker 1: So and I have children, Oh Lord, every day I
Speaker 1: just be like, thank you God that I started early
Speaker 1: and I see a little light at the end of tune.
Speaker 1: I know she only ate Lord, but raising girls is
Speaker 1: a traumatic experiences. Trying to mitigate their trauma, navigating your
Speaker 1: own suppression and regressions when they're going through things is
Speaker 1: not for the faint of hearts. So yeah, I'm struggling. Okay,
Speaker 1: So that's me. I'm just a friend that wor vomited
Speaker 1: on you. But I can tell you that the more
Speaker 1: that I think about Power Moves, that more excited I
Speaker 1: get about it coming out. I want to share with
Speaker 1: you something that God laid on my heart though this
Speaker 1: morning after I was stressed family stuff, book stuff. Marriage
Speaker 1: stuff is good, so that's always a blessing, like when
Speaker 1: the marriage feels strong, because we have some seasons where
Speaker 1: we're like relearning, regrowing. But even amidst all this stress,
Speaker 1: we've been able to stay connected. But kids stuff, mostly
Speaker 1: parenting has been a little bit of a challenge, and
Speaker 1: I've had to ask myself, especially with me preparing to
Speaker 1: share this message that God has given me with power moves,
Speaker 1: like how does what you're experiencing right now relate to
Speaker 1: this message? Because at the end of the day, the
Speaker 1: people who are going to be reading this book are
Speaker 1: going to be going through all different types of things,
Speaker 1: and something like this is likely going to be one
Speaker 1: of the things that come up. And what I came
Speaker 1: away with when praying is like at the end of
Speaker 1: the day, part of the reason why I am struggling
Speaker 1: and stretched and stressed over the parenting stuff is that
Speaker 1: I am worried. I am I think fearful, and I
Speaker 1: realized that the power of worry and the power of
Speaker 1: fear was consuming me. It was showing up at my thoughts.
Speaker 1: I felt walled up and guarded. Right I'm very much
Speaker 1: so fighter, fight flight or freeze. I was definitely functioning
Speaker 1: in freeze, and I just realized that what I am
Speaker 1: going to have to do. I feel God on this
Speaker 1: even as I'm saying it. What I am going to
Speaker 1: have to do in order to confront the worry, the doubt,
Speaker 1: the stress, the fear of what I'm experiencing on the
Speaker 1: parenting side is to come into agreement with God. To
Speaker 1: be worried, to be doubting, to be fearful is to
Speaker 1: say I don't know what the outcome is going to be.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I have what it takes. I
Speaker 1: don't know if I have the right words.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. But
Speaker 4: what do I know?
Speaker 1: And I know that the promises of God are yes
Speaker 1: and a man. I know that God is not a man,
Speaker 1: that he shall lie. I believe that no weapon formed
Speaker 1: against us will prosper. And so though I have given
Speaker 1: myself space to feel disappointed, discourage all of those things,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I agree with God.
Speaker 1: And sometimes your spirit has to be settled while your
Speaker 1: mind is sorting through the emotions. And because my spirit
Speaker 1: wasn't settled yet, I was letting myself feel but I
Speaker 1: didn't have any resolve, And so my resolve is I
Speaker 1: agree with God concerning my children. I agree with God
Speaker 1: concerning the gift and the anointing that's on their life.
Speaker 4: Agree with God.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what you're up against, but power
Speaker 1: moves itself. It's about coming into agreement with God. Not
Speaker 1: being who other people need you to be, not being
Speaker 1: who you think you should be based off of your
Speaker 1: experiences or your achievements, but really saying I agree with
Speaker 1: God with who I am in this season, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to release that version of myself into this circumstance,
Speaker 1: into this environment. So I want to challenge those of
Speaker 1: you who may be feeling unsettled in your spirit to
Speaker 1: come to a space where you're like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm going to agree with God.
Speaker 4: We believe by faith.
Speaker 1: That means that believing is not something that we feel
Speaker 1: sometimes with certainty and confidence. It is a decision that
Speaker 1: we make from a space of faith. And so I
Speaker 1: agree with God concerning what's happening in my world. And
Speaker 1: I hope that you too come to a place where
Speaker 1: you are agreeing with God.
Speaker 4: Can I mind your business now? I would love to
Speaker 4: mind you.
Speaker 1: You've been in Lord knows you been in my business.
Speaker 1: The least you could do is let me mind George. Okay,
Speaker 1: so here's what I want you to do. If you
Speaker 1: would like my perspective, my advice on something you're facing,
Speaker 1: send me an email to podcast at womnivov dot com.
Speaker 1: I would love to take a minute and just offer
Speaker 1: my perspective on what is happening in your world and
Speaker 1: see if the delegation has any other input as well.
Speaker 4: Here we go.
Speaker 1: My question for today says, Hey, Sarah, so grateful.
Speaker 4: For your ministry and your commitment to the call. Thank you.
Speaker 1: It's been my accountability partner, girl chats and mental break
Speaker 1: from work. Speaking of work, I have a question, how
Speaker 1: does one know if God is calling them to be
Speaker 1: in and change an environment or not. I work in
Speaker 1: a mental health clinic and as you can imagine, it
Speaker 1: is hard. Sometimes I want to quit and find a
Speaker 1: different job opportunity as the job feels like a weight
Speaker 1: on my own mental and emotional health, but conflicted with
Speaker 1: the thought that I could be sought in light in
Speaker 1: the office to the patience and my coworkers. So how
Speaker 1: can I know what the right thing to do is
Speaker 1: looking out for myself? Or die to myself insert phenomenal question.
Speaker 1: Because the reality is that many of us are called
Speaker 1: into environments that are challenging with the intention, with God's
Speaker 1: intention of us serving that environment his glory, his strength,
Speaker 1: his kingdom. I say, as long as you're there, that
Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to do that by simply being
Speaker 1: yourself changing an environment. I want to say this properly,
Speaker 1: Changing an environment should not be so taxing that you
Speaker 1: feel stretched twenty four to seven. Changing an environment should
Speaker 1: be the organic byproduct of you showing up authentically in
Speaker 1: that space.
Speaker 4: And if it is.
Speaker 1: Difficult for you to show up authentically in that space
Speaker 1: all of the time, sometimes right, because there are going
Speaker 1: to be some moments where none of us do it
Speaker 1: with ease. But all of the time it's difficult for
Speaker 1: you to show up with authenticity so that God's light
Speaker 1: and power can flow through you, then it's going to
Speaker 1: be difficult. It is quite possible that God has you
Speaker 1: there for you to be a light for those who
Speaker 1: are in the room. And it is also quite possible
Speaker 1: that you are there to have provision, and while you
Speaker 1: are being provided for in that way, that you are
Speaker 1: preserving your light for the spaces that can accommodate your life.
Speaker 1: There's a passage in scripture where Jesus sends the disciples
Speaker 1: out to change environments, to heal the sick, to preach
Speaker 1: the Kingdom of heaven. But he tells them specifically, like
Speaker 1: go into spaces where you are welcomed, and if you
Speaker 1: are not welcomed, wipe the dust off of your feet
Speaker 1: and move to the next space. Because at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, you cannot force your light into a
Speaker 1: dark space. You can't force your anointing to fit in
Speaker 1: a jar that it wasn't meant to feel. But there
Speaker 1: are some spaces that are going to be hungry for
Speaker 1: what you carry, and you can flow effortlessly into those places.
Speaker 1: So with that in mind, I think that you should consider, like,
Speaker 1: is there a space where I can protect myself while
Speaker 1: showing up in this environment until God makes it evident
Speaker 1: what my next role is? Or can you ask yourself?
Speaker 1: Am I just going through a tough season? But I
Speaker 1: know for sure that this is where I'm supposed to be.
Speaker 1: Only you and God can wrestle through the answer to that.
Speaker 1: But I will tell you even right now like I
Speaker 1: was telling y'all earlier, like I am absolutely exhausted. Okay,
Speaker 1: went to bed at nine o'clock, woke up. I almost
Speaker 1: missed my workout, like stress. It's six point thirty right
Speaker 1: now on Friday, I am recording this. I just left
Speaker 1: target from getting my kids some toiletries and stuff. One
Speaker 1: of my kids is going out of town a school
Speaker 1: trip for ten days out of the country. Mind you.
Speaker 1: I speak in Raleigh, North Carolina, tomorrow. Take her to
Speaker 1: the airport. On Sunday, I'm going to go from the
Speaker 1: airport to church and then Monday flying to LA for
Speaker 1: any Like.
Speaker 4: We're terrible, right, I'm gonna be honest.
Speaker 1: When I was thinking, like it's time for me to
Speaker 1: sit down and record this podcast, it didn't bring me joy.
Speaker 1: But then when I read your question, I'm like, I
Speaker 1: broke my microphone out immediately because it is stretching to
Speaker 1: do the things that we are called to do. It
Speaker 1: doesn't always come with ease, Aged Jesus read the scriptures.
Speaker 1: It does not always come with ease. But when you
Speaker 1: are doing anything you are called to do, God gives
Speaker 1: you a little bit more grace, a little bit more
Speaker 1: annointing to show up in that space. I can't answer
Speaker 1: whether or not it's the space for you. But I
Speaker 1: do think that looking for those signs are really important.
Speaker 1: And you know, not everyone has the luxury of just
Speaker 1: quitting their job and waiting for the thing that they're
Speaker 1: called to do to show up in the earth. But
Speaker 1: I will say that if you are a positioned to
Speaker 1: stay in that role, that you have to be just
Speaker 1: sensitive to checking in with yourself, having some self care,
Speaker 1: taking care of yourself when you are out of that environment,
Speaker 1: so that you have the strength that you need to
Speaker 1: to be who you have to be when you go
Speaker 1: into that office space. What does restoration and refueling look like?
Speaker 1: And I think that's whether you're call to it or
Speaker 1: just surviving it. What does restoration look like until the
Speaker 1: next step is evident?
Speaker 4: I hope that helps you.
Speaker 1: I'm really grateful for the opportunity to have tough conversations
Speaker 1: about work environments. What's beneficial to us and for us,
Speaker 1: and what's challenging and is there any way around it.
Speaker 1: I was very intentional about saying that you may not
Speaker 1: have the luxury of being able to say, Hey, this
Speaker 1: place isn't good for my mental health. So I got
Speaker 1: to back off because the reality is we have bills,
Speaker 1: and if you are a woman of color listening to
Speaker 1: this podcast, then you are probably well aware that statistically,
Speaker 1: when it comes to pay gaps, that we live in
Speaker 1: the intersectionality that you're already not necessarily getting paid in
Speaker 1: comparison to white male counterparts because of your womanhood. But
Speaker 1: you add in the added layer of being a black woman,
Speaker 1: a brown woman, a Latina woman, then that intersectionality becomes
Speaker 1: even more evident as it relates to the pursuit of wealth,
Speaker 1: financial stability, and financial planning. One of the things I
Speaker 1: am really passionate about is not just helping you evolve mentally, emotionally,
Speaker 1: and spiritually, but how do I position women to evolve financially.
Speaker 1: I recognize that I cannot do any in all of things,
Speaker 1: and you know I can't even say a sentence, so
Speaker 1: you know I can't do.
Speaker 4: All of the things.
Speaker 1: I am well aware that I am not a one
Speaker 1: stop all when it comes to resources, and so to
Speaker 1: be able to have conversations about wealth building, wealth generation
Speaker 1: when we are in a culture where we aren't always
Speaker 1: raised to have conversations about money, credit score, financial planning
Speaker 1: is one of the things that I've wanted to be
Speaker 1: really intentional about I can tell you I was not
Speaker 1: taught about credit scores, budgeting, any of those things. I
Speaker 1: was born a welfare baby. My parents work so hard
Speaker 1: to get us out of that circumstance that they could
Speaker 1: not teach a class and take the class at the
Speaker 1: same time. And so I learned a lot of hard
Speaker 1: lessons about credit score, about repossessions, about disputing things on
Speaker 1: my credit score, about saving money, about not just what
Speaker 1: my mother used to say, don't buy what you want
Speaker 1: and beg for what you need, honey. I learned those lessons.
Speaker 1: About how quick the electric company could come out and
Speaker 1: turn them lights back on. I learned a lot of lessons.
Speaker 1: I'm doing so much better now, but I'm still learning,
Speaker 1: and it's one of my favorite things to do when
Speaker 1: I can hear from people who have more information than
Speaker 1: I do. I am excited to introduce to you Victoria Washington.
Speaker 1: Her goal, her vision, her purpose is to help women prosper.
Speaker 1: She calls herself part wealth act devader, part marketing wizard,
Speaker 1: part creative director. Victoria is at the helm of a
Speaker 1: financial revolution. She's the founder of the House of Wealth Embodiment,
Speaker 1: a global community and brand that has rapidly become the
Speaker 1: go to space for entrepreneurs to develop their wealth identity,
Speaker 1: create a sustainable relationship with money, and build a financial
Speaker 1: masterpiece through their business mission. I cannot wait to dive
Speaker 1: into this conversation. Let me tell you something. She read
Speaker 1: me a little bit, and that's rude to come on
Speaker 1: some ICE podcasts and just read them the way that
Speaker 1: they do. But you know what, here, I am laying
Speaker 1: myself open that the delegation may learn. You're gonna want
Speaker 1: to take some note, grab your pen and paper, or
Speaker 1: save this podcast. Listen to it now, but save it
Speaker 1: and come back to it. Share with some friends who
Speaker 1: are learning what it means to just be a good steward.
Speaker 1: April is financial literacy month and you are about to
Speaker 1: go to school. Okay, Victoria, we got to talk about
Speaker 1: these coins.
Speaker 4: Honey.
Speaker 1: It is April, it is financial literacy month, and U
Speaker 1: sometimes the finances are very much so giving illiterate. But
Speaker 1: we are moving to a space where so many women
Speaker 1: that I know, whether they are climbing the corporate ladder
Speaker 1: or they are entrepreneurs or just making it from day
Speaker 1: to day, are really thinking more long term. Like I
Speaker 1: don't know how I can sustain a lifestyle, not just
Speaker 1: this lifestyle, but a lifestyle long term. With the way
Speaker 1: that inflation is set up, with the way that savings
Speaker 1: is set up, I forget planning a vacation. What does
Speaker 1: retirement even look like? And so I'm so grateful for
Speaker 1: this opportunity to just unpack what stability and then even
Speaker 1: overflow looks like for those of us who are navigating
Speaker 1: this crazy up and down world. So can you tell
Speaker 1: me when was the first time you recognize that the
Speaker 1: journey to stability and even well building was going to
Speaker 1: have to be done with intention. Was it something that
Speaker 1: was innate to you or did you have this aha moment?
Speaker 2: It was definitely not innate, And I don't think it
Speaker 2: is for a lot of women.
Speaker 3: I think that we have grown up.
Speaker 2: In a society where either money is hidden and it's
Speaker 2: not talked about at all in households, or there's so
Speaker 2: much shame attached to it and projection attached to it
Speaker 2: that it just becomes this uncomfortable topic that's untouchable. I remember,
Speaker 2: even in situations as a child, it was just a stressor.
Speaker 2: And so I grew up resisting money, rebelling against money,
Speaker 2: and preaching I don't need money. I was that kid
Speaker 2: that was like, I'm going to be I'm going to
Speaker 2: be completely free of money, and I thought that that
Speaker 2: meant not being in relationship with money at all. That
Speaker 2: was freedom. So I was very avoidant of it and
Speaker 2: very avoidant of my finances until I left my corporate
Speaker 2: career started my own business. That's when I realized that
Speaker 2: money was a much bigger part of my life than
Speaker 2: I wanted to admit. And within less than a year,
Speaker 2: I ended up filing bankruptcy and that was the biggest
Speaker 2: wake up call of my life.
Speaker 3: I was just.
Speaker 2: About to turn thirty and I remember sitting on the
Speaker 2: park bench outside I lived in San Diego at the time,
Speaker 2: and I just was distraught with how I got here.
Speaker 2: And when I look at statistics, you know, one in
Speaker 2: every five black women file bankruptcy. And it was almost
Speaker 2: this trajectory that I didn't even realize I was put in,
Speaker 2: and I didn't even realize was an option. And all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I'm sitting there and I'm just like,
Speaker 2: how did this happen?
Speaker 3: And what are I go from here?
Speaker 2: And that's really when my relationship with God completely changed
Speaker 2: everything for me, and I realized that I have never
Speaker 2: spent an adequate amount of time understanding my value, understanding
Speaker 2: how to steward, understanding how to build a character of wealth,
Speaker 2: and how to be in relationship with money outside of shame,
Speaker 2: outside of societal conditioning. And it became this very clear
Speaker 2: moment of it is an active rebellion to actually get
Speaker 2: in close proximity with money. It's an active rebellion based
Speaker 2: off of how the system is set up for me
Speaker 2: to take full responsibility of my life.
Speaker 3: And it's not going to happen by accident.
Speaker 2: So that was a big wake up call for me,
Speaker 2: and everything changed from that moment forward.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you said that you were about to turn thirty,
Speaker 1: You're sitting on this bench and you're like, how did
Speaker 1: I get here?
Speaker 4: And then you ended that story.
Speaker 1: By also saying that it was an active rebellion based
Speaker 1: off of how the system is set up for you
Speaker 1: to be in close proximity as it relates to your
Speaker 1: relationship with money. What is the system, how is it
Speaker 1: set up? And why are we so negatively impacted by it?
Speaker 1: And I would say blindly, yes, it's.
Speaker 2: So, because again at that point I didn't even realize
Speaker 2: how much I was being affected by my avoidance with money,
Speaker 2: and how much my life was really not shaped or
Speaker 2: even moving in a direction where I was going to
Speaker 2: be sustained. I was living in survival mode. I was
Speaker 2: living in an identity of damsel in distress.
Speaker 3: I was in a.
Speaker 2: Codependent relationship with other things in my life that had
Speaker 2: me using money as a method of safety versus really
Speaker 2: stepping into the stewardship of money as a resource that
Speaker 2: I'm being called to circulate throughout the world for different things.
Speaker 2: And so the system is set up to make money
Speaker 2: more complicated. It's set up specifically for women. We've been
Speaker 2: told it's not for us, like we're not responsible enough,
Speaker 2: or we're you know, even in the seventies, women were
Speaker 2: given the right to have a credit card but couldn't
Speaker 2: have a mortgage in their name. That just goes to
Speaker 2: show that we've been set up to spend and to
Speaker 2: use money, but we haven't really been set up to learn.
Speaker 3: How to steward it. So there is this big.
Speaker 2: Moment of realizing that that's not going to happen by accident,
Speaker 2: that's not going to just land in my lab. I'm
Speaker 2: going to have to really understand what is my personal
Speaker 2: relationship with money going to look like? And I made
Speaker 2: it bigger than me. I just remember needing to make
Speaker 2: it bigger than me. It needed to be for my legacy.
Speaker 2: It needed to be for I just had this declaration
Speaker 2: on my heart that no other woman in my family
Speaker 2: was going to hold this grip with scarcity. And I
Speaker 2: recognized that in our family tree and even just in
Speaker 2: our family units, we don't just pass down assets and cash.
Speaker 2: We passed down our thoughts and our behaviors around money.
Speaker 2: So there was a lot that I had to look
Speaker 2: at in the way that I was behaving with money.
Speaker 3: That I didn't even realize.
Speaker 2: I chose, but that was it was just by nature,
Speaker 2: something that I started to mirror and bring to life,
Speaker 2: and then that turned into bankruptcy and so many other things.
Speaker 2: So the wake up call was more centered around my
Speaker 2: role in my life and then also becoming the liberator
Speaker 2: of my relationship with money and not leaving it up
Speaker 2: to someone else or something else.
Speaker 1: What does it look like to have a scarcity mindset
Speaker 1: when it comes to your relationship with money.
Speaker 2: When you look up the Dictionary definition of scarcity, all
Speaker 2: it really means is lack. And it's interesting because you
Speaker 2: can have a lack of doubt and that's technically in
Speaker 2: that context not negative. But when it comes to money,
Speaker 2: I really see scarcity when I've worked with at this
Speaker 2: point over eight thousand women, when I really get into
Speaker 2: the roots of what it is that they're gripped with
Speaker 2: or what it is that they're battling. Scarcity is connected
Speaker 2: to us believing that we are an accumulation of our
Speaker 2: negative thoughts in our past. So we show up in
Speaker 2: rooms and we hold the energy and the embodiment of
Speaker 2: I don't have enough, or I'm not adequate, I don't
Speaker 2: belong here, I'm unlovable, And so I think in if
Speaker 2: you were to approach your relationship with money in standard
Speaker 2: status col like, let's go become more financially literate, which
Speaker 2: is so important, that will take you down a road
Speaker 2: of understanding financial terminology, getting your bank account set up,
Speaker 2: all of that. But I've realized after working with so
Speaker 2: many women that none of that matters until we can
Speaker 2: feel in here are God given value and our God
Speaker 2: given wealth identity. So the scarcity becomes more of a
Speaker 2: teacher of where have I decided I'm not lovable? Where
Speaker 2: have I decided I don't belong and I'm not adequate
Speaker 2: for this role, or for this leadership, or for this
Speaker 2: amount of money. And when we let that build and
Speaker 2: build and build over years and years and years, it
Speaker 2: shows up on our face, shows up in our hearts,
Speaker 2: shows up in the way that we guard ourselves and
Speaker 2: the way that we push opportunities away, or the way
Speaker 2: that we are frivolous with certain decisions in our life.
Speaker 2: So that's how it showed up for me personally, and
Speaker 2: how I've watched it show up and my students and
Speaker 2: then my clients, it's really more in their behavior than
Speaker 2: just their thoughts and how they're thinking.
Speaker 1: This then become the way that we attempt to reclaim
Speaker 1: our worth and value, and ultimately those habits being unhealthy
Speaker 1: keep us from having the type of stability that we
Speaker 1: ultimately desire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, spending the way that I teach it and the
Speaker 2: way that I've received feedback through my students and my
Speaker 2: clients is whenever we're spending money, we're actually spending parts
Speaker 2: of our worth, or we're spending parts of our time.
Speaker 2: And we've all grown up in a society that says.
Speaker 3: Money is more valuable than time.
Speaker 2: So a lot of people spend their time trying to
Speaker 2: make more money. When we flip it and we recognize
Speaker 2: that time is one of our most valuable currencies, or
Speaker 2: our creativity is one of our most valuable currencies, or
Speaker 2: our voice is one of our most valuable currencies. We
Speaker 2: recognize that every time we're spending, we're exchanging something. So
Speaker 2: I'm going to spend money on this thing, but I'm
Speaker 2: really spending my time, I'm spending my worth, I'm spending
Speaker 2: my creativity to.
Speaker 3: Get this thing.
Speaker 2: Then I get the thing, it doesn't feel what I
Speaker 2: thought I was going to feel, so I got to
Speaker 2: spend more. And so we end up spending money versus
Speaker 2: circulating it from a deeper understanding of our purpose or
Speaker 2: our call, or wherever it is that God is asking
Speaker 2: us to move this resource out into the world. So
Speaker 2: I feel like for a lot of women, their relationship
Speaker 2: with money can be found in how they spend, where
Speaker 2: they spend, and how often they're spending.
Speaker 1: Okay, so my husband always jokes that, you know, I
Speaker 1: may not spend a lot of money, like buying things
Speaker 1: for myself, but I would spend a lot of I
Speaker 1: will spend a lot of things, buying things for the house,
Speaker 1: like you know, sometimes things for the kids, but you know,
Speaker 1: something for the house, like something I would never spend
Speaker 1: a certain amount of money that I'd never spend on myself.
Speaker 1: I will like drop on something on the house. I
Speaker 1: cannot even bling twice about it. What does that tell
Speaker 1: you about my relationship with money?
Speaker 3: Okay?
Speaker 2: I love how your que that's transparent because I have
Speaker 2: the same thing. So I have these different I have
Speaker 2: a quiz that I've created that gives you three different archetypes.
Speaker 2: They work with the attachment style, theory and relationship, and
Speaker 2: so spending is the spender is typically connected to the
Speaker 2: attachment style of the anxious attached, where they are constantly
Speaker 2: feeling like they need to keep spending because they don't
Speaker 2: feel safe having money. As much as money equals safety,
Speaker 2: for some people actually subconsciously they feel like it's not
Speaker 2: safe to have money. Money's not safe with me, I'm irresponsible.
Speaker 2: Where when you share that with me, I feel a
Speaker 2: little bit of the hoarder, which is somebody who doesn't
Speaker 2: they're not frivolous with.
Speaker 3: Their money at all.
Speaker 2: They are going to be somebody that definitely would rather
Speaker 2: have stacked cash than be spending it all around. They
Speaker 2: tend to keep a lot in the bank account. They
Speaker 2: like to see that there's a lot there. Like they
Speaker 2: you'll very connected to money being in the bank account,
Speaker 2: whereas a spender feels like I just want to spend it.
Speaker 3: Who cares like I'm just gonna do my thing.
Speaker 2: So with a hoarder, they don't find value in circulating
Speaker 2: money for themselves. They value their environments and the people
Speaker 2: around them. So the path of least resistance for them
Speaker 2: to circulate money is through other people, through situations, experiences,
Speaker 2: and home, which is the most important.
Speaker 3: Thing to a hoarder.
Speaker 2: So that makes sense for what you're saying that it
Speaker 2: feels really stable and even exciting and pleasurable for me
Speaker 2: to circulate money in this way. If I were to
Speaker 2: just take myself to the spa by myself, a new
Speaker 2: outfit that feels empty, but a spender would love that.
Speaker 3: A hoarder's like that does nothing for me.
Speaker 2: So on the other side of the hoarder is the
Speaker 2: financial stabilizer. And to me, the hoarders are so special
Speaker 2: because they have a very stabilizing energy.
Speaker 3: They're very steady human beings.
Speaker 2: They don't have a lot of up and down with
Speaker 2: money once they're fully in their power around their relationship
Speaker 2: with money. So there's obviously these different things to look
Speaker 2: at that you could work on, but there's also so
Speaker 2: much beauty and so much grace in the stabilizing energy that.
Speaker 3: You have with money, if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: You're a lot of terminology, but that that's that's the
Speaker 2: that's what I'm.
Speaker 3: Seeing when you share that with me.
Speaker 4: Okay, So like what's wrong with that? Like what's like?
Speaker 1: How do I Because when I hear order, it doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like a compliment, But literally everything you just said
Speaker 1: sound like a compliment to me, which, by the way,
Speaker 1: it's part of the when I took the Enneagram test,
Speaker 1: which I didn't know at the time that there was
Speaker 1: controversy behind it, but they were taught I was an achiever,
Speaker 1: a type three, and everything they told me about myself,
Speaker 1: I was like, this sounds this sounds like an amazing individual.
Speaker 3: I'm going to go business.
Speaker 2: So I really truly don't think there's anything wrong with
Speaker 2: spending or wrong with hoarding. These are just terminologies to
Speaker 2: help people understand how they're in relationship with money.
Speaker 3: Because as much as you're willing.
Speaker 2: Let's say to spend on the house, or to fill
Speaker 2: your home or even your children or the people around
Speaker 2: you with prosperity or really now exchange in that way,
Speaker 2: there's still what I would have you look at is
Speaker 2: the area in which you might be holding a sensation
Speaker 2: of fear around not having that ability and not being
Speaker 2: able to fully feel your money. Like hoarders know how
Speaker 2: to move money, but they don't always feel prosperous in
Speaker 2: the process. So there's I think the difference of anybody
Speaker 2: can make money, anybody can spend money, but not everybody
Speaker 2: feels prosperous as they do it. And sometimes what I've
Speaker 2: seen with the hoarder is that they're so focused on
Speaker 2: other people that they don't feel for themselves, how that's
Speaker 2: really circulating through them, how that's really They don't.
Speaker 3: Fully experienced it.
Speaker 2: They watch other people experience it, but how much are
Speaker 2: they personally experiencing it.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, you didn't have to be rude. I brought
Speaker 1: you onto my podcast, Like, Okay.
Speaker 3: There's a little crack I'm seeing, I'm all go in there.
Speaker 4: That's fine.
Speaker 1: No, First of all, I think it's important that people
Speaker 1: be willing to see themselves and I know that. You know,
Speaker 1: transparency and vulnerability leads away. So we've got the spending,
Speaker 1: we've got the order. What's the other archetype.
Speaker 2: The other one is the avoid, which is somebody who
Speaker 2: The avoid is like being in relationship with somebody who's like,
Speaker 2: I want a partner. I want a partner. But then
Speaker 2: they get in the partnership and they don't text back.
Speaker 2: They get in the partnership and they're like, I.
Speaker 3: This is a little too close.
Speaker 2: They feel like money and the responsibility of money is
Speaker 2: encroaching on their freedom. So they're constantly in this push
Speaker 2: pull in their relationship with money, like I want it,
Speaker 2: but I don't want the responsibility that comes with it.
Speaker 2: I want it, but I don't want the intimacy or
Speaker 2: the expos that comes with it. So they tend to
Speaker 2: avoid their finances by not checking their bank account, by
Speaker 2: not answering people back, by not making decisions, by not
Speaker 2: looking at the ways in which their money is being
Speaker 2: moved throughout the world. On the other side of the avoid,
Speaker 2: once they move through that, they learn through that is
Speaker 2: the financial catalyst, and they are the type that actually
Speaker 2: change the world with money. They actually do really catalyzing
Speaker 2: things with money because they're no longer afraid of being seen,
Speaker 2: they're no longer afraid of being in relationship with other people.
Speaker 2: And one of the breakthroughs for the avoid is, my
Speaker 2: money is only as prosperous as my relationships. So if
Speaker 2: I have no relationships and no intimacy, no matter how
Speaker 2: much money is coming and going, I'm not going to
Speaker 2: actually be rich. I'm not actually going to feel in
Speaker 2: my purpose with money. I'm not going to feel like
Speaker 2: I'm actually doing anything. So there's a lot of breakthrough
Speaker 2: for the avoid and intimacy and relationship, and then how
Speaker 2: that then translates into the relationship with money as they
Speaker 2: change the world, they do really big.
Speaker 4: Things with it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I already know that that's going to blow someone's mind.
Speaker 1: You are the founder of the House of wealth embodiment.
Speaker 1: Are these the types of conversations that you're having there?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, And I love breaking it down in this way
Speaker 2: because in this way nobody has to hold shame.
Speaker 3: There's no shame, there's no you're right, you're wrong.
Speaker 2: It's we've all inherited different flaws, different things that God
Speaker 2: has called us to move through and work with. And
Speaker 2: on the other end, of those things is our power,
Speaker 2: is our stewardship. And I don't think that i'd be
Speaker 2: who I am today or who I am with money
Speaker 2: but didn't file bankruptcy if I didn't come face to
Speaker 2: face with a spender and me that was trying so
Speaker 2: bad to find my value on shelves, in things and
Speaker 2: in other experiences that weren't actually fulfilling my purpose. So
Speaker 2: I love having these conversations because it opens the floor
Speaker 2: for vulnerability, for truth, and for everybody to really be
Speaker 2: seen without the shame and the projection that they typically
Speaker 2: are in when it comes to money.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's say someone's listening to this, and of
Speaker 1: course they're going to look you up. They're going to
Speaker 1: find the house of wealth embodiment. But they're also wondering, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe I actually do need to start planning for a future,
Speaker 1: but right now I'm living paycheck to paycheck. How do
Speaker 1: we bridge that gap between I want to have a savings,
Speaker 1: I want to take trips, I want to pay some
Speaker 1: debt off, but I literally have no extra What do
Speaker 1: we do in these scenarios?
Speaker 2: So that means that we're living in survival. Well, that's
Speaker 2: exactly where I spent most of my twenties and even
Speaker 2: some of my early thirties was in the survival mode
Speaker 2: of just living either clients client or paycheck to paycheck,
Speaker 2: and I didn't even have a breath to consider what
Speaker 2: my relationship with money could look like.
Speaker 3: Outside of that.
Speaker 2: But there comes this point where we have to definitely
Speaker 2: acknowledge that.
Speaker 3: Feel that that is so real.
Speaker 2: And what I recognized when I went into that is
Speaker 2: I don't have resistance with money. I don't have a
Speaker 2: problem making money. I have resistance to responsibility. And for
Speaker 2: a lot of women, I grew up personally being responsible
Speaker 2: for way more than I was ready for, way too soon,
Speaker 2: and so my relationship with responsibility was like, I don't
Speaker 2: want that.
Speaker 3: I just want to survive. I just want to get by.
Speaker 2: And I didn't realize that that narrative was running how
Speaker 2: much I was really valuing myself and what rooms I
Speaker 2: was putting myself in, how I was using my skills,
Speaker 2: how I was leveraging the gifts that God gave me.
Speaker 2: And I remember one time in my kitchen got stopped
Speaker 2: me and I heard so clearly he said, where are
Speaker 2: you at with receiving my gifts for you? But I
Speaker 2: kept focusing on money, like God, I've been praying for money,
Speaker 2: like I want the gift of right there cash, And
Speaker 2: I just kept hearing him say, well, where are you
Speaker 2: at with receiving my gifts for you? The gifts that
Speaker 2: I gave you to circulate which bring money into form
Speaker 2: your voice, the different characteristics that I bestowed within you.
Speaker 2: I was so focused on making money that I was
Speaker 2: not focusing on tending to my body, the vessel and
Speaker 2: the gift that God gave me to actually go out
Speaker 2: in the world and do something that was going to
Speaker 2: be beyond the survival mode. So I recognize for a
Speaker 2: lot of women myself included, is that our financial intelligence
Speaker 2: is directly linked to.
Speaker 3: Our body intelligence.
Speaker 2: If we're in survival mode, we can't make decisions that
Speaker 2: are going to be fruitful. We can't think beyond that paycheck.
Speaker 2: So I had to, as hard as it was, put
Speaker 2: that down for a second and really go into my
Speaker 2: body and say, what do you need right now so
Speaker 2: that you can get into a stabilized state to be
Speaker 2: able to think clearly and use the gifts that God
Speaker 2: gave you and leverage them in the world. So that's
Speaker 2: a lot of work that I do with women as
Speaker 2: well is connecting them back with their body in relationship
Speaker 2: with God, so they can start honoring their nervous system
Speaker 2: and the parts of them that want to fight, that
Speaker 2: want to fight like all that shows up in our
Speaker 2: relationship with money, and we don't realize that that keeps
Speaker 2: us in this constricted state of not being able to
Speaker 2: expand into the responsibility of stewardship.
Speaker 3: And when we.
Speaker 2: Do that, we stop looking at responsibility as a burden.
Speaker 2: We look at it as an honor, as a call.
Speaker 2: And that gave me the tenacity and the fortitude to
Speaker 2: get up and do something different and change the way
Speaker 2: that I was.
Speaker 3: In relationship with my finances.
Speaker 1: When did you start calling yourself a wealth activator?
Speaker 2: That still feels strange to call myself, to be honest,
Speaker 2: but we got to put titles on stuff when I speak,
Speaker 2: and when I've worked with women, that was what they said.
Speaker 3: It activated something in them.
Speaker 2: They felt something inside of them turn on that wasn't
Speaker 2: on before. And that's always my prayers that God reaches
Speaker 2: into the hearts of women and activates the identity that
Speaker 2: He's placed in them, because when that's activated, they can
Speaker 2: start to see that wealth is not just money.
Speaker 3: It's an accumulation of value.
Speaker 2: And if I identify as a valuable human being, I'm
Speaker 2: going to live my life different I'm going to walk
Speaker 2: into my boss's office differently. I'm going to break down
Speaker 2: every door they said was closed. So I have an
Speaker 2: activating nature. I get very passionate and excited. And that's
Speaker 2: my wish every time somebody hears me speak is that
Speaker 2: they feel activated by God's gifts.
Speaker 3: And that they can feel that inside of them.
Speaker 1: So for the women who are like, Okay, maybe I'm
Speaker 1: not living paycheck to paycheck, I finally have a little
Speaker 1: cushion and I'm ready to start thinking about what wealth
Speaker 1: looks like for me, What do you think are like
Speaker 1: the first couple of steps they should take in really
Speaker 1: beginning to take this extra that they have and throwing
Speaker 1: it into something that will multiply.
Speaker 3: I love this question because that.
Speaker 2: I always tell my students and my clients if if
Speaker 2: you want to do this work, make some money, because
Speaker 2: that's really when the journey begins. I thought, healing my
Speaker 2: scarcity going through all that was hard work. When you
Speaker 2: start making money, then it's like, oh now what now
Speaker 2: that it's here, what do I do with it, and
Speaker 2: it can be threatening almost because if you're used to
Speaker 2: living in a certain amount, or you're used to circulating
Speaker 2: a certain amount, it can be very confronting to then
Speaker 2: have the sensation of ten thousand dollars hundreds of thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: The responsibility that that comes with. So Number one is
Speaker 2: I always have them start to take on the mindset
Speaker 2: of an entrepreneur, understanding that within each of our own bodies,
Speaker 2: we have our own economy. So what is your economy?
Speaker 2: What do you want your economy to feel like? What
Speaker 2: do you want your economy to look like? What is
Speaker 2: your financial vision? Because if you don't have one, the
Speaker 2: world will give you one or someone else will give
Speaker 2: you one. So I think it's so important to sit
Speaker 2: and say, like, Okay, this money isn't going anywhere. Any
Speaker 2: fear that's coming in that's telling me that this is
Speaker 2: going to get stolen, this is going to be the
Speaker 2: last time I got lucky. Like all those thoughts will
Speaker 2: pop into your head when you start to circulate more money.
Speaker 2: We have to pause and ask, Okay, what's my vision? God,
Speaker 2: I want to have an encounter with where you desire
Speaker 2: me to steward this, and then we can start to
Speaker 2: see what chapter we're in. I think for some people,
Speaker 2: especially for millennials, there's an assumption that we should jump
Speaker 2: it straight into retirement, move it to this savings account,
Speaker 2: which I think is so important. That makes sense, But
Speaker 2: what about travel? What if you're in a chapter of
Speaker 2: lifestyle where you want to travel the world and you
Speaker 2: finally have the funds.
Speaker 4: To do it.
Speaker 2: What if you're in a chapter of motherhood and you're
Speaker 2: wanting to have overflows so you can step away from
Speaker 2: your business, or you can step away from your job
Speaker 2: and feel fully secure. I think it's important to really
Speaker 2: get clear on what chapter you're in and not feel
Speaker 2: like you have to put the money somewhere because that's
Speaker 2: what someone told you. When I first started circulating more money,
Speaker 2: I spent a couple of years traveling and just enjoying
Speaker 2: the fact that I could say yes without asking money
Speaker 2: for permission. And I think that that matters, and that's
Speaker 2: an important phase for each woman to go through. And
Speaker 2: then I recommend having a high yield savings account because
Speaker 2: that's the easiest way for you to start to understand
Speaker 2: how money multiplies without you always doing something with it
Speaker 2: and It's a perfect way to house your money while
Speaker 2: it's still moving a lot, still circulating, a wallet, still multiplying.
Speaker 3: If you're an entrepreneur, the.
Speaker 2: Next step I have you take is having a separate
Speaker 2: business account and a separate personal account, so that you
Speaker 2: can start to feel the difference between I'm making all
Speaker 2: this money to my business is starting to make money
Speaker 2: and it pays me.
Speaker 3: That's going to be a big move for a.
Speaker 2: Woman who's then going to be responsible for hundreds of
Speaker 2: thousands of dollars. So those are some small things that
Speaker 2: I recomon and women do. It doesn't have to be
Speaker 2: complicated that even doing that in one year.
Speaker 3: For some people it's such a big move.
Speaker 2: I remember when I was opening up my accounts for
Speaker 2: the first time, my heart was racing. I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't want to press the wrong button, and then the number.
Speaker 3: Changes, like what's happening right now?
Speaker 2: So I think it's it's taking the more simple step
Speaker 2: is often the most sophisticated step, jumping straight into stock market.
Speaker 3: All this stuff that's good, and we will get there.
Speaker 2: But these small steps of just having a vision, having
Speaker 2: some savings, knowing why you're in relationship with money is
Speaker 2: going to lead you in such a fruitful direction and
Speaker 2: you'll feel grounded along the way.
Speaker 1: You know, we've seen a lot of emails and headlines
Speaker 1: lately about data breaches and identity fifth. You know, I
Speaker 1: even get the email sometimes, but like nothing changes on
Speaker 1: my bank account. It doesn't look like I even though
Speaker 1: it says you could have been a victim, I wasn't
Speaker 1: a victim. How serious do you think we need to
Speaker 1: be taking the reality of our financial data and credit
Speaker 1: cards being easily hacked online? And what precautions should we
Speaker 1: be taking.
Speaker 2: I think the natural precautions are make sure your passwords
Speaker 2: are in check and make sure that you are changing
Speaker 2: those on a regular basis so that at least there's
Speaker 2: always a block between that and somebody potentially, you know,
Speaker 2: taking your identity. But I feel like there's a lot
Speaker 2: of fear based projection in that. And if you're truly
Speaker 2: in relationship with money, and you're no longer avoiding your finances,
Speaker 2: and you are intimately looking at your bank accounts regularly,
Speaker 2: you're very much so regularly connecting with your accountant, you
Speaker 2: have a bookkeeper. I think having those things in your
Speaker 2: world and on your team are so helpful and I
Speaker 2: feel like we have to really listen into our intuition.
Speaker 2: And for me, like anytime I see those emails, I
Speaker 2: can feel right away, just feel in the way that
Speaker 2: they're phrased. And that's why I mean, when we're in survival,
Speaker 2: we can't feel that. So that's why I'm so adamant
Speaker 2: about get grounded, get connected, stay rooted, so that you
Speaker 2: can listen for what is a red flag and what's not.
Speaker 3: That is part of our financial intelligence.
Speaker 2: So outside of the you know, changing your passwords, making
Speaker 2: sure that you're looking at your bank accounts regularly. I
Speaker 2: also think it's trusting your yourself and trusting that if
Speaker 2: something feels off, it probably is and hopefully you have
Speaker 2: somebody on your team or somebody that you can fact
Speaker 2: check it with and don't do anything if it feels off, Like,
Speaker 2: don't nothing is an emergency like that, Like even if
Speaker 2: something was happening, it wouldn't be communicated to.
Speaker 3: You that way.
Speaker 2: I've had fraud happen with me before, and my bank
Speaker 2: personally calls me. I know my bankers, Like that's what
Speaker 2: I mean by being intimate in our financial exchanges. Know
Speaker 2: your bankers ask for people's names because The more that
Speaker 2: you have that intimacy, the more you'll be like, I've
Speaker 2: never spoken to this person before, They've never called me
Speaker 2: in this way, I've never got notifications like that, and
Speaker 2: we'll be able to tell what is a scam and.
Speaker 3: What is actually for us.
Speaker 1: Do you still feel that home ownership is a vehicle
Speaker 1: for generational wealth building?
Speaker 2: I think it's one, but I don't think it's the
Speaker 2: only one, and I don't think it's the most powerful one.
Speaker 1: M what's the most powerful one.
Speaker 2: I think that it really depends on again, you knowing
Speaker 2: what chapter you're in. I think we've all grown up
Speaker 2: on some level. The goal is like to get a
Speaker 2: house for your degree, a house for your degree. In
Speaker 2: a house, you're basically winning a life. But I feel
Speaker 2: like it's changed so much. I think our generation is changing,
Speaker 2: currency is changing, entrepreneurship is changing. I'm so grateful that
Speaker 2: I spent and circulated most of the first bit of
Speaker 2: cash that I had back into my business, which now
Speaker 2: has turned into this whole movement that if I was
Speaker 2: like I got to get a house, I got to
Speaker 2: get a house, I don't know that I would have
Speaker 2: made the decisions that I made if that's in your
Speaker 2: financial vision, and that is something that feels true for
Speaker 2: you and it's on your heart and God has called
Speaker 2: you to do that.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's an amazing.
Speaker 2: Way to circulate your money. But I also feel that
Speaker 2: commercial investments are an amazing way. Getting creative in your
Speaker 2: business and reinvesting in your business is an amazing way
Speaker 2: I look at. For me, my greatest currency is not
Speaker 2: cash and it's not a house. My greatest currency is
Speaker 2: my voice and my ideas. So I'm constantly looking at
Speaker 2: where can I invest in things that are going to
Speaker 2: foster more strength in those areas because I know with
Speaker 2: a voice and an idea, I can do anything. I
Speaker 2: can turn money into form. So that's why I really
Speaker 2: encourage everyone to get clear on what is your true vision,
Speaker 2: otherwise someone else will give it to you. And most
Speaker 2: of the time they're going to give you the vision
Speaker 2: of go buy a house, go get a degree.
Speaker 3: But that's not the path for everybody.
Speaker 2: And I think that that's going to liberate some people
Speaker 2: who are like I, you know, want to go invest
Speaker 2: in travel, or there's this new idea, this new business
Speaker 2: that I want to put some money in. I think
Speaker 2: those are really fruitful ways as well.
Speaker 3: I love that you say advisor, so.
Speaker 2: Legally, I just got to say, don't.
Speaker 3: I'm not a findential advisor.
Speaker 2: This is just what I've seen, and what I have
Speaker 2: i've seen work for other people at myself.
Speaker 1: I love that you said that, though, because part of
Speaker 1: this concept in this book that I have coming out,
Speaker 1: Power Moves, is all about the reality that the power
Speaker 1: of ideas are often moving. What once worked for one
Speaker 1: generation may not be cookie cutter for the next generation.
Speaker 1: And giving ourselves permission to explore what power looks like
Speaker 1: now is one of the greatest assets that we can
Speaker 1: give one another. I feel like it's the same thing
Speaker 1: even as we talk about worth and how not necessarily
Speaker 1: our financial worth, but our worth as individuals and our souls.
Speaker 1: If we do not do the work of reclaiming our
Speaker 1: worth from the things that have tried to strip us
Speaker 1: from who God says we are, who we have the
Speaker 1: potential to become, then we will live less than God's
Speaker 1: version of who we are. We may not be able
Speaker 1: to access some of the promises and realities connected with
Speaker 1: that vision. And so I want to ask you, and closing,
Speaker 1: if someone is listening to this interview right now, and
Speaker 1: they know they struggle with their value, they know they
Speaker 1: struggle with their worth. They just have so many insecurities,
Speaker 1: they have so many flaws, They've made so many mistakes.
Speaker 1: What would you say is like the number one step
Speaker 1: to take in reclaiming your worth.
Speaker 2: Remember that that set back is God set up for
Speaker 2: his glory.
Speaker 3: And oftentimes.
Speaker 2: The thing that we think is the greatest burden or
Speaker 2: the greatest thing that is blocking us from our worth
Speaker 2: is the necessary ingredient that God is using to fortify
Speaker 2: our worth and fortify just how called we are. I
Speaker 2: yes see that God has trusted me with this business,
Speaker 2: this voice, this mission.
Speaker 3: But God also trusted me with bankruptcy because.
Speaker 2: He knew what I would do with it and who
Speaker 2: I would turn to in it. So that weight that
Speaker 2: you're feeling is not the weight.
Speaker 3: Of the world. It's the weight of your worth.
Speaker 2: And that worth has it has gravity, it has a call,
Speaker 2: it has purpose, And sometimes I think we forget that
Speaker 2: that heaviness isn't something we weren't designed to carry. So
Speaker 2: it's it's like stand in it, stand on it, stand
Speaker 2: with it, and trust that there is so much glory
Speaker 2: that's being set up in that process and at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, you're going to look back and say, Wow,
Speaker 2: I'm not just standing in this. I don't just believe
Speaker 2: this like it is deeply within me because I took
Speaker 2: that journey, because I chose the weight of my worth
Speaker 2: overholding the weight of the world.
Speaker 1: Wow, well, Victoria, thank you. I know so many of
Speaker 1: us are going to be a fan after this. I
Speaker 1: appreciate the way that you poured out and put me
Speaker 1: on blast a little bit for the sake of the sisterhood.
Speaker 4: I was like, please.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 4: I love it though.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for what you are contributing to
Speaker 1: the sisterhood, to womanhood. You're necessary and I can't wait
Speaker 1: to see what all we can do together.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much.
Speaker 2: I'm so grateful I got to pour into y'all, and
Speaker 2: I hope you received everything that you came here, and
Speaker 2: I hope that this woke something up within you. And
Speaker 2: I just feel really blessed that you trusted me to
Speaker 2: have this conversation with you.
Speaker 1: Are are y'all still stuck on how she read me?
Speaker 1: Because I'm still stuck on how that queen read me.
Speaker 1: But let me tell you one thing is for sure,
Speaker 1: you all need to get plugged into the work that
Speaker 1: she's doing. I love that she's not just coming at
Speaker 1: it from a this is what you need to do perspective,
Speaker 1: but this is why you do what you do, and
Speaker 1: this is what you need to know in order to change.
Speaker 1: I hope that you all plug into her resources. It
Speaker 1: will tremendously bless you. It's Wednesday, It's hum Day. Thank
Speaker 1: you for allowing me to be a part of your week.
Speaker 1: Some of y'all not listening to this on Wednesday, but
Speaker 1: whenever you are listening to it, just know that I
Speaker 1: count it amongst my greatest privileges and honor to be
Speaker 1: a part of what God is doing in your life.
Speaker 1: I want to take a minute and pray with you
Speaker 1: before I go, especially as it relates to the area
Speaker 1: of finances. Thank you God for laying on our heart
Speaker 1: this desire to break a generational curse off of our
Speaker 1: family and to introduce generational blessings and generational wealth. God,
Speaker 1: first of all, we have to say this. We know
Speaker 1: that you desire more than anything for our souls to prosper,
Speaker 1: and so God, I pray that you would bring us
Speaker 1: to a space where we are prospering and wealthy. On
Speaker 1: a soul level, that we are rooted in the knowledge
Speaker 1: of your love and from that place that we touch
Speaker 1: and do everything with a reflection of Your love connected
Speaker 1: to it. God, I pray for those who are connected
Speaker 1: to this podcast as it is financial Literacy Awareness Month. God,
Speaker 1: it is my prayer that you would make them more
Speaker 1: literate in the areas where they have no example, that
Speaker 1: you would make them more literate in the areas that
Speaker 1: their goals and dreams and businesses are connected to. God,
Speaker 1: give them structure, give them insight, give them strategy, give
Speaker 1: them wisdom on how to break the curse off of
Speaker 1: their lives and to move into a space of blessing
Speaker 1: and fulfillment. And God, I pray that as you do that,
Speaker 1: that you will position them to be givers and teachers
Speaker 1: for those who are connected to them. I thank you
Speaker 1: that when one of us comes up, we all come up.
Speaker 1: Thank You for the gift of Victoria Washington and she
Speaker 1: continued to be rooted and her identity in You. In
Speaker 1: Jesus name my prayer. You know what I've realized. I
Speaker 1: am a prayer.
Speaker 4: I will just be.
Speaker 1: Praying and praying. When we're doing school runs in the morning.
Speaker 1: The girls be like, that's enough praying, all right, so listen.
Speaker 1: I love you. I will catch up with you next week.
Speaker 1: My book is almost out, y'all. Pray for the kid,
Speaker 1: all right. Take care,