Speaker 1: So one of the things that's fun about living so
Speaker 1: close to Danielle is that we tend to go places.
Speaker 1: Everywhere we have to be at the same place together.
Speaker 1: It makes sense we hop in the same car Danielle
Speaker 1: Norris drives, and the conversations we've we've realized between all
Speaker 1: three of us are just endless. We just so for
Speaker 1: some reason, it's like now we're trying to run out
Speaker 1: of stuff to say, because we could use this.
Speaker 2: We literally stop recording and keep talking. I noticed when
Speaker 2: we were at breakfast, we kept going. It was like
Speaker 2: no one's even recording our filming notes, and it's just
Speaker 2: like it never stopped.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're we're going and the conversations go all
Speaker 1: over the place. So this one started where she was
Speaker 1: talking about Keaton waking up because Keaton at the time
Speaker 1: was kind of battling a little bit of a fever. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he felt but She's like, he felt great when
Speaker 1: when we woke up in the morning. You know, he
Speaker 1: wanted to wrestle right away and we were playing Hulk,
Speaker 1: and but he's got this little fever and little stuff.
Speaker 1: And I said, well, you realize, if you know, maybe
Speaker 1: he's turning into the actual Hulk has he been exposed
Speaker 1: to any gamma radiation, to which then Danielle kind of
Speaker 1: says what, And I get to spend the next fifteen
Speaker 1: minutes really explaining the backstory of doctor Bruce Banner and
Speaker 1: the Hulk.
Speaker 2: Bruce band.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't the gamma rays that confused me. You said,
Speaker 3: what if he because he could be smart Hulk, And
Speaker 3: I said.
Speaker 4: Right, what, what's smart Hulk?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we had a great conversation about smart Hulk.
Speaker 1: Well, the thing that was so funny was that you
Speaker 1: were telling me that you had kind of like the
Speaker 1: basic Hahul story that you read your kid, and she's like, so, no,
Speaker 1: I read him a story and it's Hulk green, Hulk angry.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh no, there's so much more. But then
Speaker 1: in the perfect Danielle is right when she finished telling
Speaker 1: the story, she's like, but the doctor Bruce Banner in
Speaker 1: the book is hot.
Speaker 4: He's hot. Oh yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: It's a real simple comic book for like the earliest reader.
Speaker 3: So literally the book goes, Hulk is green, Hulk is strong,
Speaker 3: Hulk is a good person.
Speaker 4: He likes to the.
Speaker 3: Bruce Banner story, where we find out how he became
Speaker 3: the Hulk, And I'm like.
Speaker 4: Whoa Bruce Banner? Huh?
Speaker 1: Danyell wants to wake up to find those purple shorts
Speaker 1: on her floor.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, but this is where I get so
Speaker 2: overwhelmed with comic mythology. It's so dense and there's so
Speaker 2: many layers, like did you ever did you actually read
Speaker 2: comics when you were a kid? Will like? Is that
Speaker 2: where it started?
Speaker 1: Or I didn't? I actually, but I read mythology, don't
Speaker 1: you remember? Like Hamilton? Is that the famous mythology book
Speaker 1: that everybody needs in school? And then I, you know,
Speaker 1: I just dove into But that's what comic books are.
Speaker 1: It's it's americanology. I mean, so it's but no, I
Speaker 1: did start comic book reading till later. So you okay,
Speaker 1: but you do? Do you read comics now?
Speaker 2: Or is you mostly like cartoons movies?
Speaker 1: It's cartoons, movies and the lore like that. But if
Speaker 1: somebody says to me, like, you've got to read this,
Speaker 1: you know, this group of comics, then I'll jump in
Speaker 1: and I'll read I want it. I've always wanted to
Speaker 1: do X Men from the beginning, But depending on who
Speaker 1: you ask, I know, the ninety different versions you're supposed
Speaker 1: to read. Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Like I because I remember when I was a kid,
Speaker 2: like I don't know, second or third grade, we we
Speaker 2: got pen pals at another school, you know, and so
Speaker 2: we were like and I became pen pals with this
Speaker 2: kid and he was like really into X Men.
Speaker 1: I decided like, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna get into
Speaker 1: X Men.
Speaker 2: And then I just got so lost. I have no
Speaker 2: idea where to start. It was like, do I go
Speaker 2: to sixties X Men? Do I go to eighties X Men?
Speaker 2: Do I do the cartoons? It was like, yeah, oh
Speaker 2: my god. I mean and now, of course this is
Speaker 2: kind of standard, Like I feel like there must be
Speaker 2: like lists online of like start here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there are, and it's where you can start and
Speaker 1: where you can go and do all that stuff. But
Speaker 1: any opportunity I get to nerd out to Danielle is
Speaker 1: a lot of fun because she's like, what is smart Hulk?
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay. So doctor Bruce Banner realized that the
Speaker 1: balance the whole fund was that he was trying to
Speaker 1: get rid of the Hulk his entire life, to just
Speaker 1: go back to be Bruce Banner but what turns out
Speaker 1: is he just the best part was adding Bruce Banner
Speaker 1: to the Hulk, so he always walks around his Hulk now,
Speaker 1: but he's Smart home. She's like, oh god, so yeah,
Speaker 1: whenever I can.
Speaker 3: And I love it because now with my boys, I
Speaker 3: want to know all of it so that I can
Speaker 3: participate in it with them. You know, whereas before I'd
Speaker 3: be like, okay, whatever, well, cool story about Smart.
Speaker 2: It reaches it reaches a saturation point.
Speaker 1: Trust me, oh I got to. I got you know.
Speaker 2: Indy went through his Star Wars face. He like, now
Speaker 2: he can't stand Star Wars. You just go through like
Speaker 2: months of everything is this one thing. And so luckily
Speaker 2: Will came to my brother's house for brunch when he
Speaker 2: was going through like his heavy lightsaber.
Speaker 1: It was it was not just Star Wars.
Speaker 2: It's very specific lightsaber. And I saw Will and Indie
Speaker 2: just start getting into the different colored lightsabers, and I
Speaker 2: was like, thank god he has Will because he would
Speaker 2: always ask me. He's like, well, what a white lightsabers
Speaker 2: kind of crystals makes the red lightsaber? What? And I
Speaker 2: was like uh, And Will was just like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: he's a Sith lord who came from this planet, and
Speaker 2: the kyber crystals from this and if you're talking a
Speaker 2: yellow lightsaber, those was only this order of Jedi. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, than I know, fine, great,
Speaker 2: but I'm not I can only my patients only go
Speaker 2: so far. Do you want to talk Shakespeare writer.
Speaker 3: I'd actually like to know more about your pen pal.
Speaker 3: Did your pen pal know you were? Like who you were?
Speaker 3: Did you guys know each other?
Speaker 2: This was like second or third grade early on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: this is before I was acting.
Speaker 3: But so did you like it was just like a
Speaker 3: neighboring school, like a neighborhood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like our school got paired up with
Speaker 2: another school in another city, another town somewhere. I have
Speaker 2: no idea California. Yeah, I was still in California.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I've only really had like two pen pals. It was that.
Speaker 2: And then Aaron Metchick, who was on our show, was
Speaker 2: in another production of Lay Miz, and he and I
Speaker 2: started writing letters back to each other while we were
Speaker 2: doing La Miz. He was in a different production and
Speaker 2: I saw him. I had lunch with him like a
Speaker 2: couple of months ago. It was so great.
Speaker 1: Cool. Yeah, he's he runs.
Speaker 2: An acting studio. Now for kids actually in la and
Speaker 2: then San Luis Obispo, which is where he's from, and
Speaker 2: so he started this acting studio there and then he
Speaker 2: opened it up down here.
Speaker 1: So I think I'm going to.
Speaker 2: Go visit his school and like meet his students and stuff.
Speaker 1: But it was so good to see him. When you
Speaker 1: were younger, did you did your class ever do when
Speaker 1: it was still okay to release balloons? Did you ever
Speaker 1: do writing the notes and balloons and then letting the
Speaker 1: balloon go? And then months later you'd get like a
Speaker 1: letter from somebody going, I'm in Michigan and I found
Speaker 1: your balloon. Yeah, it was really Yeah.
Speaker 2: You actually got a letter about I feel like we
Speaker 2: did that that just never heard, you know, some bird.
Speaker 1: It was like a message in a bottle, you know
Speaker 1: it was. It was totally But how do.
Speaker 4: You guide where the balloons land?
Speaker 2: How'd you like a message in a bottle?
Speaker 4: You just one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember it was probably third grade. She's like,
Speaker 1: we got two letters back from the balloons we released.
Speaker 1: Here's one from Rhode Island and here's one from where
Speaker 1: they just go on the wind. And somebody picks him
Speaker 1: up and writes back like, Hi, I'm a student, and
Speaker 1: I was just want of if you find this, please
Speaker 1: write here in the East Coast.
Speaker 2: It actually would work because there are enough towns and
Speaker 2: like you know, there's enough density that you could at
Speaker 2: your balloon would actually read somewhere.
Speaker 1: Maybe or maybe your teacher.
Speaker 4: Was just I think they were lying.
Speaker 1: My god, I think they lying to me. My life
Speaker 1: would not be the same.
Speaker 3: I know, I'm sorry to put that thought in your head,
Speaker 3: but well, I'm just happy that writer's pen pal relationship
Speaker 3: turned out better than mine, who ended up being the
Speaker 3: creepy guy protruded to be a girl.
Speaker 4: That's the only pen pell I've ever had. Yeah, that
Speaker 4: ruined pen pals for.
Speaker 1: Me to the pen pals from that moment.
Speaker 3: But you know what, I could probably release a balloon
Speaker 3: to Will's house.
Speaker 1: You can we just drone it. At this point, I
Speaker 1: just send Danielle stuff by drone. I think that would
Speaker 1: be better.
Speaker 4: We do have a drone, so I could send one
Speaker 4: to you. Oh jes, Welcome to Pod meets World.
Speaker 3: I'm Danielle Vishel, I'm right strong, and I'm WILFORDO. Welcome
Speaker 3: to day's episode. We are recapping season four, episode seventeen,
Speaker 3: A Long Walk to Pittsburgh, Part two. It originally aired
Speaker 3: Valentine's Day, February fourteenth, nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 1: Right makes sense.
Speaker 3: The synopsis is that Corey is despondent without Tapanga until
Speaker 3: one rainy evening she shows up on the Matthews doorstep.
Speaker 3: Now Corey and Tapanga must convince Corey's parents and Topanga's
Speaker 3: aunt that they are truly in love and belong together
Speaker 3: in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Wait February fourteenth, Sorry before you jump in February is it?
Speaker 2: Wasn't it?
Speaker 1: February sweeps?
Speaker 2: Oh, this has been a sweet episode.
Speaker 1: Sense that this is a sweeps episode, Big guest star,
Speaker 1: big ride line. I think this is probably a sweeps
Speaker 1: episode that was thinking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a two parter. It was directed by Jeff McCracken.
Speaker 3: It was written by Mark Blutman and Howard Buskang. And
Speaker 3: before I jump into our very special guest star or
Speaker 3: guest stars, did you guys have any over all feelings
Speaker 3: about the episode?
Speaker 1: I actually I liked it. You know you know what
Speaker 1: I liked about it? Is it? I mean, I again
Speaker 1: the same thing that happened last week. I thought I
Speaker 1: was kind of forcing my comedy a little bit. Not
Speaker 1: it was a little big, But I liked how it
Speaker 1: felt like a play. It felt very contained and it
Speaker 1: was you know, we can get into the hole. They've
Speaker 1: rewritten the qory into Pega saga obviously for the episode,
Speaker 1: and that's a whole thing story wise, but the actual
Speaker 1: you know, the feenie scene and the parents doing what
Speaker 1: they do, and and I thought Ben was good. So
Speaker 1: I liked the play aspect of the episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, writer, I really really didn't like this episode.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm going to be the stick of the
Speaker 2: mud again.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now, I think this is like a I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: we've talked about this a lot. Is you know, how
Speaker 2: the show changes and and like you said, rewrites the
Speaker 2: Corey to Panga thing. But I I feel like this
Speaker 2: is a just it's a huge diversion from our It
Speaker 2: rewrites the premise of Boymut's world. To me, like, I
Speaker 2: just found this so true and and you know the
Speaker 2: play factor. I like what you were saying about it
Speaker 2: being contained, but to me, it felt more like pageantry.
Speaker 2: It felt more like a like a trial of sorts.
Speaker 2: Like weirdly it felt like this I don't know, it
Speaker 2: just you know, I we can get into it as
Speaker 2: we go through. But like, yeah, I thought this is
Speaker 2: you know, this is one of those things like there
Speaker 2: are so many people who probably really love Boymuts World
Speaker 2: for the love story, for the Corey to Panga thing,
Speaker 2: and I feel like this episode is the like rewriting
Speaker 2: the premise of Boy Meets World to lock that in
Speaker 2: and to make that the sort of new central tenet
Speaker 2: of And it's been hinted at, it's been talked about,
Speaker 2: it's been danced around, and I think from now on
Speaker 2: we're just in a different show. We're in a show
Speaker 2: that's about Corey and Topanga's love. And I think for
Speaker 2: a lot of fans that is what they love about
Speaker 2: Boy Meets World. For me, it's not, you know, and
Speaker 2: I can see that this is the turning point this episode,
Speaker 2: and I you know, for me, that's a big mistake
Speaker 2: because I think, you know, and I'm sure we'll go
Speaker 2: back to the other version of Boy Meets World and
Speaker 2: other episodes and stuff, but for me, this is a
Speaker 2: like it's a big writing like it's a huge, bold choice,
Speaker 2: and I don't like it. I don't think it's good.
Speaker 2: You know, I can get into why, but I just
Speaker 2: think it it undermines what I really loved about the
Speaker 2: first you know what we've been watching like there's something
Speaker 2: so special about boy meets World and the approach to
Speaker 2: the world, and instead now it's it's a romance and
Speaker 2: that's just a different type of story. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying, but I'm sorry. You go ahead, Danielle.
Speaker 4: No, I was gonna say, I You're right. It is.
Speaker 3: It is completely rewriting the what feels like we've set
Speaker 3: up for all three and a half now seasons of
Speaker 3: the show. It feels like we're changing the idea of
Speaker 3: what the show is. But I actually, and even though
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily agree with the idea that the Big
Speaker 3: Swing is these two people are gonna are supposed to
Speaker 3: be together and come hell or high water, they're going
Speaker 3: to make it work together. Why I may while I
Speaker 3: may not agree, and I feel more like an Amy
Speaker 3: Matthews in my real life, there is a part of
Speaker 3: me that takes if I take myself out of it,
Speaker 3: I really just respect and appreciate the Big Swing in
Speaker 3: the Bold Choice, and I recognize how unique it was
Speaker 3: for its time to do that, to say, what if
Speaker 3: we're the show that says two people who love each other,
Speaker 3: no matter how old they are, should fight, come hell
Speaker 3: or high water to be together. And instead of the
Speaker 3: idea that you should just go and hook up with
Speaker 3: many different people until you decide to pick one and
Speaker 3: then settle down, what if it's okay to only love
Speaker 3: one person and to be with one person. So, on
Speaker 3: the one hand, I personally Danielle will feel more like Amy.
Speaker 3: On the other hand, I actually love the idea of
Speaker 3: taking the freaking risk and taking that move.
Speaker 1: I also think it's right. But I also think it's
Speaker 1: perfectly in a way. It's perfectly in keeping with Boym's
Speaker 1: world because we've talked about the shifts that the show
Speaker 1: does all the time, and they're big. It's like Corey's
Speaker 1: a little kid and it's about Corey and his home life,
Speaker 1: and then it shifts and it's about Sean and his homelike,
Speaker 1: and then it's about Eric and Sean, and now it's
Speaker 1: about Corey and Tapanga. Like it's one more new shift
Speaker 1: into what the show is going to be. And it
Speaker 1: keeps doing it every once in a while where they're
Speaker 1: just go, all right, now we're gonna focus on this,
Speaker 1: and if we have to rewrite stuff to focus on
Speaker 1: this that's what we're gonna do. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: like when they brought in Verna, she was this wacky,
Speaker 1: funny character that we just heard about, and then we
Speaker 1: bring her in and we show Sean's home life and
Speaker 1: they have to rewrite what Verna was to bring in
Speaker 1: that character. So now to show Corey and too Panga,
Speaker 1: they have to rewrite the history to me, make it fate,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of a destiny. And I think it
Speaker 1: will then culminate in all of us being together at
Speaker 1: college where it's like everybody's had their moment and then
Speaker 1: we're all kind of an ensemble again back.
Speaker 3: And it's not too unlike what we talked about earlier
Speaker 3: for pre show chatter, the toddler stages where you go
Speaker 3: through things where for months it's all about pop Patrol
Speaker 3: and then it's all about Power Rangers. When you're a teenager,
Speaker 3: you go from it's all about your family to it's
Speaker 3: all about my friends too.
Speaker 4: It's all about my girlfriend. I love my girlfriendster.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so those phases may last a little longer
Speaker 3: when you're a teenager, or maybe they don't than they
Speaker 3: do in the toddler years. But I mean, I feel
Speaker 3: very much Like you know, I had my core group
Speaker 3: of girlfriends as a teenager, but there was always a
Speaker 3: different one I was super close to. It was like
Speaker 3: Vanessa and I are bfs forever, and then six months
Speaker 3: later it was like you were in a different class
Speaker 3: with someone else, and now all of a sudden, this
Speaker 3: part since your bff. And then of course there's the
Speaker 3: rotating cast of relationships you have. So it doesn't feel
Speaker 3: unlike real life that this has taken this trajectory at sixteen,
Speaker 3: seventeen years old.
Speaker 2: Well, but but real life has adjusted.
Speaker 1: The thing that's the thing for me is like it's
Speaker 1: a big change.
Speaker 2: It's because I think the story I guess the story
Speaker 2: logic of the show was always you know, in the
Speaker 2: title Boy Meets World, like you know that the poignancy,
Speaker 2: the beauty of it was that the show is going
Speaker 2: to be this magnifying glass on all the small experiences
Speaker 2: at this eleven year old maybe sixteen year old now
Speaker 2: kid is having, and so all the experiences of like
Speaker 2: thinking he's right, thinking he can change the world, meet
Speaker 2: up against the world, and meet up against mister Feenie
Speaker 2: and detention and whatever the situation is, and then like
Speaker 2: he pushes back and says, no, the world is this way,
Speaker 2: and then he learns his lesson in the world maybe
Speaker 2: adjusts a little bit right, and like there's like a
Speaker 2: little show to shift each way, and we come back
Speaker 2: next week and he does it all again, and like
Speaker 2: that is what's beautiful is that, like the the what's
Speaker 2: been beautiful so far is that the adult world is
Speaker 2: kind of messy. The kid world is kind of messy,
Speaker 2: and they're kind of neither one is like right or
Speaker 2: winning this argument. And then this one, Corey into Panga
Speaker 2: win the argument. It's like and that is just fundamentally like,
Speaker 2: oh now the it's like it's it's boy conquers world,
Speaker 2: you know, at the end of this episode, and I
Speaker 2: was like, well, wait, that's not the point of the show.
Speaker 2: The point of the show is that you learn that
Speaker 2: all those experiences, things that you think are so important,
Speaker 2: are little not You're still a kid, and like the
Speaker 2: show itself makes it important by highlighting and telling that story,
Speaker 2: but the world of the show doesn't adjust to fit
Speaker 2: the kid's view. That's like and in this one, we
Speaker 2: watch the pillars fault, like he literally goes, well, she's
Speaker 2: got to live in that you know, she's all the
Speaker 2: way in Pittsburgh. Boom to Panga shows up and then
Speaker 2: well we got to you know, my parents are never
Speaker 2: gonna let us do it. And then one by one
Speaker 2: the parents and then well Ant Proud and Aunt Prue
Speaker 2: and then Fiene and it's like literally goes on trial
Speaker 2: and Corey wins every argument and at the end, Boy
Speaker 2: gets Love conquers all and Boy, you know, Boy conquers world.
Speaker 2: And I was kind of like, but that's that's not
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 3: That is exactly what Jensen said. Jensen said, Normally they'd
Speaker 3: be losing. Normally they would lose the argument. They wouldn't
Speaker 3: be they would be on the wrong side, they wouldn't
Speaker 3: be on the right side. And I actually, I will
Speaker 3: get into it when we start when we let's just
Speaker 3: jump in and recap the show. But I see your perspective,
Speaker 3: and I would if it weren't for the fact that
Speaker 3: all of the adults are on the other side, and
Speaker 3: they're actually the reason they win is not because they
Speaker 3: love each other and they should be able to be together.
Speaker 3: It's because of all the other reasons. That's the only
Speaker 3: reason I actually ended up enjoying the episode. So we'll
Speaker 3: talk about it. Let's jump into our recap. Guest starring
Speaker 3: Olivia Hussey as Aunt Pruden's curtis a stunt casting if
Speaker 3: I've ever seen one. She is best known as Juliet
Speaker 3: in the nineteen sixty eight movie of Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet,
Speaker 3: making her the most famous teen in Hollywood at the time,
Speaker 3: a movie that was shown in classrooms around the country,
Speaker 3: despite the fact that she was only fifteen years old
Speaker 3: and the film included a topless scene. She was allegedly
Speaker 3: unaware was being filmed until the day of and then
Speaker 3: was told that no nudity would actually be seen on screen.
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty three, Olivia and her co star Leonard Whiting,
Speaker 3: whose butt was also shown, sued Paramount Pictures for abuse
Speaker 3: and distributing the underage scene. Do you guys remember working
Speaker 3: with her.
Speaker 1: I remember how exciting it was that she was going
Speaker 1: to be there, because this was one of those I mean,
Speaker 1: this was a movie I think they showed us in
Speaker 1: high school. I believe they also caught it. They might
Speaker 1: have edited out on the top of community by this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean it was Romeo and Juliet. It it
Speaker 1: was at that time. I think kind of the quintessential
Speaker 1: version of Romeo and Juliet was that film. I remember
Speaker 1: her being very very sweet. Yeah, when she walked on camera.
Speaker 1: In my head, and again this is just because of
Speaker 1: my age at the time, I remember her being a
Speaker 1: lot older.
Speaker 4: Oh wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so when I saw her she walked down,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, she's stunning. Like she
Speaker 1: I don't I remember for some reason, I remember her
Speaker 1: being closer to Bill's age.
Speaker 2: Oh well, because in your mind she was fifteen. Probably
Speaker 2: still right, she's so old.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like that at all. I mean she
Speaker 1: was and she was good. I mean I remember her
Speaker 1: being incredibly.
Speaker 4: Nervous, Yes, very nervous.
Speaker 3: I think my only memory of working with her is
Speaker 3: really just that she was very quiet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and very quiet, very nervous. She and would talk.
Speaker 1: She remember her saying that, like, I'm just very nervous
Speaker 1: to be in front of the audience. And so it was.
Speaker 1: But she was very sweet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, writer, do you have any memories of you actually
Speaker 4: didn't really.
Speaker 2: Want to know. It's funny that you said that she
Speaker 2: was nervous, because that was my feeling watching it. But
Speaker 2: I wonder how much of that is that I did
Speaker 2: remember that fact too, Like there felt like attention to me.
Speaker 2: When I was watching the episode, I was like, what's happening.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of pressure on her, you know, obviously
Speaker 2: the big entrance, and like wondering if anybody's gonna even
Speaker 2: know she is.
Speaker 1: So they teat it up as much as they can, and.
Speaker 2: I don't think we had an audience this week. I
Speaker 2: feel like, I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I'm assuming we did, because don't you remember when when
Speaker 1: when Tapega shows up they had to cut because they
Speaker 1: went crazy when she showed up and they were it
Speaker 1: lasted forever, so they remember they had to cut it
Speaker 1: down for the actual edit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt myself kind of nervous watching it, and
Speaker 2: I but I also just feel like there was a
Speaker 2: kind of a missed opportunity. I didn't feel like she
Speaker 2: got to do that now. I didn't know what was happening.
Speaker 2: I didn't quite understand her position in the scenes, and
Speaker 2: like her going head to head with Phoenie, I'm so,
Speaker 2: what is this is?
Speaker 1: This didn't make a whole lot of sense.
Speaker 2: It didn't make a whole lot of sense, and it
Speaker 2: didn't like it just didn't. It didn't quite pay off,
Speaker 2: Like it didn't plan out, like I even when they
Speaker 2: kind of go at each other in this like what
Speaker 2: I assume was was sort of meant to be this
Speaker 2: like meeting of the minds and like smart verbose and
Speaker 2: they actually say for most people like going at it,
Speaker 2: but it just didn't land.
Speaker 1: For me.
Speaker 2: I was kind of like, what is this. I'm not
Speaker 2: sure they're oppositional or even the tools that they have
Speaker 2: to be oppositional are not that great.
Speaker 3: Was it was a it was a fever dream of
Speaker 3: the writers to get Hussy and Bill days together acting
Speaker 3: their faces off with each other, but the characters didn't
Speaker 3: have enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I would.
Speaker 2: I mean, it would have been interesting to try and
Speaker 2: find a way to like allow her to actually be
Speaker 2: on stage or in some context, or like for them
Speaker 2: to do a Shakespeare thing or I don't know, but
Speaker 2: obviously they they couldn't quite figure that out or make
Speaker 2: that work, so it just, I don't know, it felt
Speaker 2: it felt like a lot of expectation and held breath
Speaker 2: to me, like I.
Speaker 1: Just I just love the idea that they keep using
Speaker 1: Romeo and Juliet as the pinnacle of how young love
Speaker 1: conquers all they died.
Speaker 2: I don't get me started. That's what drives me so crazy.
Speaker 2: That's where I started like writing all these notes. I
Speaker 2: was like, what the whole point I mean? And that's
Speaker 2: it gets to, you know what I was saying, Like,
Speaker 2: the whole point of Romeo and Juliet is that their kids,
Speaker 2: they don't know. That's the point. They're thirteen. They think
Speaker 2: they're in love. When we meet Romeo, he's broken up
Speaker 2: over his last girlfriend. He's obsessed with her. So Romo's
Speaker 2: love sick teenager. He's writers, strong, writer thirteen, and he's
Speaker 2: an idiot. That's the whole point, is like, it's not
Speaker 2: the point of the play is not that Romeo and
Speaker 2: Juliet are right. The point of the play is that
Speaker 2: they're young, idiot kids who love each other and they
Speaker 2: shouldn't have died, but they took themselves so seriously because
Speaker 2: of the corrupt adults. You know, they were in opposite
Speaker 2: and it's like that is the worst metaphor for them,
Speaker 2: or the worst parallel for this, Like the point of
Speaker 2: Boy Meets World is that the adults are actually pretty
Speaker 2: great and nuanced and willing to listen to the kids
Speaker 2: and the kids still just don't have power, but in
Speaker 2: this this episode we completely subvert the power, like now
Speaker 2: the kids have all the power. It's so weird to me.
Speaker 3: It's also guest star and Katie Johnston as Rosie Sparrow,
Speaker 3: a new addition to the Trio Club if you can
Speaker 3: believe it, joining Hillary Tuck, Willie Garson, Jonathan Kaplan, and
Speaker 3: maybe Phil Leeds. Katie Johnson played Hillary aka fish Girl
Speaker 3: in Corey's Alternative Friends.
Speaker 4: Yes, Bonnie in Breaking.
Speaker 3: Up is really, really, really hard to do, and now
Speaker 3: she is British Rosie.
Speaker 1: I thought she was British by the accent.
Speaker 4: Oh, sure you did.
Speaker 2: Well? No, okay, I thought my exit was actually pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yours. No, I was surprised. I was like, yeah, the
Speaker 1: two girls, they weren't. They weren't the best accents I've
Speaker 1: ever heard in my life. If I'm I'm being honest.
Speaker 3: That's okay, you're you're I don't know about the I
Speaker 3: don't know when he is actually British. Emma Ridley as
Speaker 3: Becky Sparrow. You may recognize her as Ozma in the
Speaker 3: Wizard of Oz sequel, And yes she is British, then
Speaker 3: hers is fine. Yeah, returned to OZ, but Boy Meets
Speaker 3: This World was her last of only four acting credits.
Speaker 3: Really so yeah, so those are our guest stars jumping
Speaker 3: into our recap.
Speaker 4: This episode kicks off with a.
Speaker 3: Previously seene on and we see a recap of what
Speaker 3: happened in part one.
Speaker 2: Okay, did you guys have like the crazy voice?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 2: James Earl Jones was introducing.
Speaker 4: It was Crael. It was wild.
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't it be one of us?
Speaker 2: I know, I thought it would be banned or somebody like,
Speaker 2: but it.
Speaker 1: Was like Bill, how do you use Bill? Daniel's voice
Speaker 1: was so.
Speaker 2: Dramatic and deep, and I was like, oh, this is serious, yes,
Speaker 2: very weird, so funny.
Speaker 4: So then we're in the Matthews living room.
Speaker 3: Sean is making out with a girl as her friend
Speaker 3: sits next to them uncomfortably. The camera pans to a
Speaker 3: nearby chair, where Corey is awkwardly sitting. The girl making
Speaker 3: out with Sean pulls away and speaks in a British accent,
Speaker 3: don't be such a rushy boy. Sean laughs, A rushy boy.
Speaker 3: Corey painfully smiles back. The girl continues, since Rosie and
Speaker 3: I have been in America, we really haven't been on
Speaker 3: very many dates, you know. Rosie chimes in, yes, and
Speaker 3: I suppose Becky and I have a little catching up
Speaker 3: to do, And then the girl's giggle and Sean is
Speaker 3: loving it. Becky leans back into Sean and Rosie diverts
Speaker 3: her attention to Corey. She points out, anyone can sit
Speaker 3: on a couch, but you were clever enough to choose
Speaker 3: the cozy chair. She gets up and starts massaging Corey's shoulders.
Speaker 3: Clever indeed, she announces, are you just as clever? Becky
Speaker 3: slides her hands down Corey's arms, but quickly picks up
Speaker 3: the phone, pretending to talk to Tapega. Rosie is confused.
Speaker 3: Did anyone hear the phone ring? Nope, she didn't hear anything.
Speaker 3: Sean's annoyed. He walks over to Corey and hangs up
Speaker 3: the phone. Cory's mad, by.
Speaker 2: The way, because I was like, I had that phone
Speaker 2: and that exact phone in my house. It's like, oh
Speaker 2: I miss those.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was very confused, so are Corey? And to Panga,
Speaker 2: I just I mean, yeah, that's what I didn't get from.
Speaker 1: It was so weird.
Speaker 3: It wasn't set up in any way because you find
Speaker 3: out later after to Panga's already there and they're sitting
Speaker 3: on the couch that they had been talking every day,
Speaker 3: and then at this point it had been a Monday
Speaker 3: and a Tuesday and a Wednesday that had passed, and
Speaker 3: they tried to set it up in the first one.
Speaker 1: I think they tried to set it up in the
Speaker 1: first one that he says to her something along the
Speaker 1: lines of is it fair if I'm not there for
Speaker 1: you not to see other people? And that's kind of
Speaker 1: where they left it where then she comes and says,
Speaker 1: I'm coming to say goodbye, and he may do it.
Speaker 1: So I think they're trying to say that they're giving
Speaker 1: each other space and they can hang out with other people.
Speaker 1: But I don't think so.
Speaker 2: I don't think so. Yeah, and I just I guess
Speaker 2: the only reason I just didn't understand Shawn's point, Like
Speaker 2: Shawn's saying, make out with this girl, get over to Panga,
Speaker 2: which is a little odd considering how he was in
Speaker 2: the previous episode where he was like, you're going to
Speaker 2: end up together a TV believes it, And then I
Speaker 2: think that that becomes a thing where Shawn's the one
Speaker 2: who actually believes in their love even more than Corey
Speaker 2: and Topanga at time, so it was weird for Sean
Speaker 2: to be rooting, and I thought, well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I guess maybe if it had just been clear like
Speaker 2: Topanga and I are taking a break or we you know,
Speaker 2: we said, and then it would be like and then
Speaker 2: Corey's not able to do that exact Sean saying, you
Speaker 2: have to be able to do this to try it
Speaker 2: out and know that you can move on. But I
Speaker 2: don't know why they left it kind of messy. I mean,
Speaker 2: I understand real life is messy and you have these
Speaker 2: sort of like half breakups, but I guess I kind
Speaker 2: of want to just know for the sake of whether
Speaker 2: I should be on Sean's side or not.
Speaker 3: Sean, you could have said, Cory, you went too. Panga
Speaker 3: talked about this, You're going to give each other space.
Speaker 3: How are you you have to dive into normal life like.
Speaker 2: Or even just I know you're not going to make
Speaker 2: out with this girl, but just go along so I
Speaker 2: can make out with the other girl, you know, like,
Speaker 2: just be my wingman. You don't have to do anything,
Speaker 2: but just don't you know, it's it's really it's I
Speaker 2: was thinking of the swinger scene, you know, puppy dogs
Speaker 2: and ice cream, like where you know, John Favreau is
Speaker 2: bringing down Vince Vaughan's game because he keeps talking about
Speaker 2: his breakup, which is kind of what this was like,
Speaker 2: almost verbatim, And I was like, it could have been
Speaker 2: fine for him to not be making out, but just don't.
Speaker 1: Don't bring up to Panga while they're having on this
Speaker 1: double date. You know, let me have my date.
Speaker 2: But instead Sean's kind of already making out, Like what
Speaker 2: does he care?
Speaker 3: Really, I know, it's weird. They wanted to have their
Speaker 3: cake and eat it too. With your character, you're both
Speaker 3: super supportive of his relationship and on his team, but
Speaker 3: also old Sean, which was come on, dude, we just
Speaker 3: got to make out as many girls as wegan, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So Corey says, you hung up the phone onto Pega
Speaker 3: Shonfire's back. I hung up on nobody. The phone has
Speaker 3: to ring for somebody to be on it. Corey is
Speaker 3: killing him. Corey retorts, I haven't done anything. Sean admits
Speaker 3: that's exactly what the problem is. You have a beautiful
Speaker 3: girl from another country who doesn't understand our language, and
Speaker 3: you haven't done a thing. And this is where I
Speaker 3: notice that writer, you have a black fingernail.
Speaker 1: I saw that too, was it? I think it was?
Speaker 4: It's a middle finger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has smashed my finger.
Speaker 4: You smashed your finger. Do you remember why you would
Speaker 4: have smashed your finger?
Speaker 2: No, I don't, but I definitely remember smashing my finger
Speaker 2: and I needed to get like if blood builds up
Speaker 2: under his fingernail hole in it? Yeah, so I remember
Speaker 2: having to having to do that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, were you smelting something? Maybe that's possible. You
Speaker 1: could have been making Are I just slammed it in
Speaker 1: a car door?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was making a wooden rose for some woman.
Speaker 3: So the girls are giggling again. They do a lot
Speaker 3: of giggling in the scene. Sean begs Corey to move faster.
Speaker 3: They're only here on a six month visa. Corey explains
Speaker 3: he's worried about to pang, but Sean puts his hand
Speaker 3: over his mouth to prevent him from saying her full name.
Speaker 4: Please for one night, I beg of you.
Speaker 3: There is no to pang, so Corey bravely takes a
Speaker 3: seat on the couch while Becky gets on Sean's lap
Speaker 3: to start making out again. Corey and Rosie still just
Speaker 3: stare at each other awkwardly. Well, I guess we should
Speaker 3: kiss now, Cory says. She responds, I suppose we could.
Speaker 4: We don't have to.
Speaker 3: So when nothing happens, she asks, do I make you sad?
Speaker 3: Corey responds no, and I think you're very delightful. I
Speaker 3: think you speak English quite well. She smiles and inches
Speaker 3: closer to him. He continues, I've just been going out
Speaker 3: with this girl for like sixteen years.
Speaker 1: No, Sean, I just sat there going I know, I know. Wow.
Speaker 3: No, you weren't, He even says in his speech about
Speaker 3: what their relationship is. Later, he calls those the lost years.
Speaker 3: It's like if you have lost years right there.
Speaker 5: You haven't been going out for sixteen years, and you're
Speaker 5: sixteen years old, and you're calling the lost years is
Speaker 5: like eight years of sixteen by the.
Speaker 3: Way, all of them being the years we have seen exactly.
Speaker 3: So Sean mid makeout, pretends to cough, I'll kill you.
Speaker 3: Corey lowers his voice to a whisper. A girl named Tapanga.
Speaker 3: He explains the story about meeting Topanga when they were
Speaker 3: eight months old in the sandbox. Rosie asks she was
Speaker 3: your first girlfriend then, and Corey nuts I'm pretty sure
Speaker 3: two weeks ago she moved to Pittsburgh, and I never
Speaker 3: got a chance to say goodbye and that I love her.
Speaker 3: He wonders if he'll ever get the chance to tell her.
Speaker 4: Will she know?
Speaker 1: Have they not spoken in these two weeks?
Speaker 4: It's like he, this is weird.
Speaker 3: He never got a chance to say goodbye and tell
Speaker 3: her that he loves her, and yet like, so then
Speaker 3: you just haven't spoken at all.
Speaker 4: You haven't addressed that with her, Like, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3: I screwed that up. I really didn't think you were
Speaker 3: gonna go. I should have said goodbye.
Speaker 1: It's it also doesn't make any sense that he they've
Speaker 1: already established that he has a license and that it's
Speaker 1: a five hour drive, and Eric drives there all the time.
Speaker 1: How has he not already been there at least once.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe to pay I thought maybe Topeg is mad at
Speaker 3: him for not saying a proper goodbye, Like maybe there
Speaker 3: has been some tension between them for these two weeks,
Speaker 3: that the way they ended things made her upset, Right,
Speaker 3: But I know this part, this setup is not It
Speaker 3: was bad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the point of the scene is that Corey's not
Speaker 2: over to pank and he can't move on, and Sean
Speaker 2: wants him to move on, right, Yeah, so why not
Speaker 2: be very clear about that? Like ya, Topanga and I
Speaker 2: had a conversation that we can see other people, and
Speaker 2: I'm not able to because I'm still in love with
Speaker 2: her exactly.
Speaker 3: Was upset with the way I couldn't handle a goodbye,
Speaker 3: and that if I couldn't even handle a goodbye, how
Speaker 3: could I possibly handle long distance?
Speaker 1: And we decided that decided to take a break, to
Speaker 1: take a break in sea.
Speaker 2: I'm heartbroken and I'm still in love exactly, and then
Speaker 2: she shows up at the door. It would have been
Speaker 2: the same story, but it's interesting thing.
Speaker 1: I wanted to keep it to There's a thousand jokes
Speaker 1: you can do. It's it's Sean going. She said to
Speaker 1: move on, So move on to the couch. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: there's so many different ways you could have gone with it.
Speaker 1: One line and it would have made it a lot.
Speaker 3: So even more romantic if they had both agreed we
Speaker 3: have to take some space and I'm going.
Speaker 2: To be the smart thing and not be teenagers. And
Speaker 2: we can't help it.
Speaker 3: We just all and I just want to see your face.
Speaker 3: I had to see your face. So Rosie reveals that
Speaker 3: this is the most beautiful and heartfelt thing she's ever heard.
Speaker 3: Would you mind very much if I cried my eyes
Speaker 3: out just right now? Corey responds with a shaky voice.
Speaker 3: Would it be okay if I cried with you? They hug,
Speaker 3: and as they start to cry, Sean and Becky think
Speaker 3: the embrace is a makeout session. Becky notices he seems
Speaker 3: to be quite the rushy boy too. Sean smiles, I
Speaker 3: taught him everything he knows, and they go back to
Speaker 3: mauling each other.
Speaker 4: That's a long scene.
Speaker 1: It is a lot of scene. You don't really learn
Speaker 1: anything at all except that Corey's not over to Pango,
Speaker 1: which we kind of would have guessed anyway, you know, I.
Speaker 3: Mean taking our time machine idea. Why couldn't this scene
Speaker 3: have taken place in Chubby's where Sean is on a
Speaker 3: date alone and Corey keeps wanting to talk to Sean
Speaker 3: about his situation with Tapanga, And then.
Speaker 4: She said maybe we just need to take a break
Speaker 4: and we can't live.
Speaker 3: With in Sean's like, okay, I love you, but let's
Speaker 3: he could have been just interrupting and we get all
Speaker 3: the exposition about what the update is without it needing
Speaker 3: I mean, it.
Speaker 2: Was tell I'm so uncomfortable in this episode, like I'm
Speaker 2: just checked out, you know, And I think part of
Speaker 2: it is it feels for Sean, it just doesn't It feels.
Speaker 1: Like we've a rased, We've gone back to season two. Sean.
Speaker 1: It's just like character reset.
Speaker 2: And I've never loved to Panga, never had the connections
Speaker 2: and fought for Corey and Topanga the way I have.
Speaker 2: Or you know, it's so I think, you know.
Speaker 1: I can. I can just tell that.
Speaker 2: Like at that age, even I was probably just like,
Speaker 2: what am I doing? This doesn't make sense to me?
Speaker 1: All right, But it's a strange juxtaposition for your performance,
Speaker 1: especially because even Sue pointed it out. You might feel
Speaker 1: like you were checked out, but your timing is way
Speaker 1: better than that, Like it's getting better as a comedic.
Speaker 1: I feel like I wasn't committed. I feel like I could.
Speaker 1: I've never seen these before. Looked up and she was like, wow,
Speaker 1: writers really like hitting his stride with this stuff. So
Speaker 1: you see funny. I was watching, Man, I'm out of it.
Speaker 1: I don't care about my so with Eric in this,
Speaker 1: I was like what is Eric doing in this sense? Yeah.
Speaker 3: Then we get a commercial break, and when we come
Speaker 3: back to Panga, we're in Topanga's an abandoned room, which
Speaker 3: I don't know carpet.
Speaker 1: I don't remember that.
Speaker 3: I also do not recognize the room at all in
Speaker 3: any way, shape or form. Corey is sitting on the
Speaker 3: floor of Topanga's empty room, looking like a sad ben
Speaker 3: Affleck meme. And there's a knock at the window. It's
Speaker 3: Eric dressed like a police sketch, retrieving Corey for dinner.
Speaker 2: I know, And I was like, oh, on the ground floor.
Speaker 2: I didn't quite realize that for some reason. I was like,
Speaker 2: I guess I just imagined it was like the boy's
Speaker 2: bedroom recorder was climbing a tree to get up there.
Speaker 2: But I was like, oh, Eric's stand he's hovering. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Oh no, he's on the ground.
Speaker 3: So then we follow up that very long scene we
Speaker 3: just had with a scene that is at most four
Speaker 3: seconds long.
Speaker 1: Corey Dinner. Goreat dinner, Corey Dinner. Thank you. I just
Speaker 1: recreated the entire scene.
Speaker 4: There it is, you've seen it. Then we're in the
Speaker 4: Matthew's kitchen.
Speaker 3: Eric escorts Corey into the house they are both completely
Speaker 3: drenched from the rain.
Speaker 4: Eric is treating him like a lost puppy. Good boy,
Speaker 4: let's get you out of the rain.
Speaker 1: That sweatshirt to like a month ago, that gray sweatshirt
Speaker 1: didn't have They weren't moth holes, but there were holes
Speaker 1: all of it. Yeste cigarette burns all my old clothes
Speaker 1: will close.
Speaker 4: Its true, it's true.
Speaker 3: Alan looks at his despondent son with concern. I know
Speaker 3: this is tough on you, but you can't go on
Speaker 3: avoiding life. Eric chimes in, He's absolutely right. I had
Speaker 3: the same problem when I broke up with Francesca. Alan asks,
Speaker 3: who's Francesca. Eric slyly whispers there is no Francesca. I'm
Speaker 3: just trying to help. Alan whispers back, nobody wants.
Speaker 4: That, and the way you do. Okay, okay, it's so funny.
Speaker 4: Alan asks Corey.
Speaker 3: Why don't we just drive down to Pittsburgh this weekend.
Speaker 3: I need to see some suppliers and you can spend
Speaker 3: some time with Tapanga. That's a great dad. Hell yeah,
Speaker 3: what a great dad.
Speaker 4: Move. Hey, you know what I was thinking. I've actually
Speaker 4: got to go to Pittsburgh. Do you want to go
Speaker 4: with me? And you can spend some time with her
Speaker 4: and I'll get my work done.
Speaker 2: Ah great, Yeah, guess where this kind of stuff doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: Romeo and Juliet exactly.
Speaker 1: It's Romeo and Juliette Rider. It's about kid love. It
Speaker 1: is the ultimate kid love. It worked out. They're still
Speaker 1: together today.
Speaker 2: They used to rewrite it to like make it a
Speaker 2: happy end, and it's like.
Speaker 4: That's not that.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the version I think they read before they
Speaker 1: read about it lasts forever.
Speaker 2: I do feel like I have a chip on my
Speaker 2: shoulder about Romeo and Juliet in the popular conception, because
Speaker 2: it's it's so misinterpreted as this like love story, this great,
Speaker 2: you know, platonic ideal of young and it's like, no,
Speaker 2: that's not the point of the play. If it was
Speaker 2: just a romance, there's tons of those stories, right. A
Speaker 2: good romance is just two people that shouldn't be together
Speaker 2: end up together, and that's great. But that's not what
Speaker 2: makes Romeo and Juliet great. What makes Roman and Juliet
Speaker 2: great is that it's complicated than that, and that they're
Speaker 2: not right, and that the parents have to learn from
Speaker 2: them and they have to learn from it. It's great.
Speaker 3: Amy says she doesn't think that's the best idea, and
Speaker 3: Corey defensively responds, you've made it really clear how you feel.
Speaker 3: My feelings are for you. I don't want you to
Speaker 3: be in pain, she explains. Corey doesn't hesitate. No, you
Speaker 3: just don't want me into Panga to be together. Amy clarifies,
Speaker 3: I don't want you to be sick over to Panga.
Speaker 3: She isn't here anymore. I think this presents a good
Speaker 3: opportunity to get to know other girls.
Speaker 4: Corey's very reasonable.
Speaker 3: My mom my mom used to say to me all
Speaker 3: the time, Danielle, if you're constantly wrapped up with the
Speaker 3: wrong person, how are you ever supposed to be available
Speaker 3: for the right person?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 3: And not that Amy is saying to Pega is the
Speaker 3: wrong person, but more about you can't she isn't here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Betsy is so good in this APPA.
Speaker 4: I know she is.
Speaker 2: And so when she was hired, right, she's she's like
Speaker 2: we were talking to her this weekend, and she's one
Speaker 2: of the few adults who had done sitcom yeah, because
Speaker 2: Bill and Rusty had not neither of them had ever
Speaker 2: done a sitcom before, and she was the sitcom pro
Speaker 2: and yet you know, and she was very funny in
Speaker 2: the early seasons, but like now, like here, she is
Speaker 2: just carrying a very nuanced, dramatic like through line that
Speaker 2: is tough because you know, you don't want her to
Speaker 2: be a monster, right, and what she's saying is very reasonable,
Speaker 2: and just I loved watching her.
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this is her last episode, so
Speaker 1: I would say, and it's.
Speaker 2: A drama episode.
Speaker 1: How funny is that?
Speaker 2: Like she can do drama so well, yeah, really great.
Speaker 3: So Corey fights back, I don't want to know other girls.
Speaker 3: He and Tepanga would have been together for the rest
Speaker 3: of their lives. Amy doesn't think that's true. She insists
Speaker 3: you both have to get to know other people to
Speaker 3: make a choice like that. I had relationships with four
Speaker 3: other men before I met your father. Eric doesn't want
Speaker 3: to hear that. Ma Alan is confused.
Speaker 2: I know, three, four seems like not that many. No,
Speaker 2: but I guess they were pretty young.
Speaker 4: Right, they were in their early twenties.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think they met its supposed to have met
Speaker 1: a teenager's late teens, early twenties, and so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, yeah, So Corey tells his mom, I'm sure
Speaker 3: you'll be really happy to know that I'm not going
Speaker 3: to Pittsburgh. He's realized he's been the one who's making
Speaker 3: all the calls, He's been the one writing all the letters,
Speaker 3: and he will not be the one who travels three
Speaker 3: hundred miles to be rejected and look like a fool.
Speaker 3: He concludes, if life doesn't want me into Panga to
Speaker 3: be together, then you can't fight life. He opens the
Speaker 3: back door and turns around to see to Penga standing
Speaker 3: there also drenched. Do y'all remember this, Danielle, Oh, I
Speaker 3: remember it vividly. Yes, I remember so the way the
Speaker 3: Matthew's living room was right in front of the audience,
Speaker 3: and that therefore the backyard sideyard Feenie's yard was also
Speaker 3: right in front.
Speaker 4: Of the audience.
Speaker 3: And they put up a big black screen so that
Speaker 3: I could walk down the backyard and be at the
Speaker 3: back door without the audience knowing, because they wanted the reaction,
Speaker 3: the surprise reaction.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I remember the very first time.
Speaker 3: We did it, like Will said, you reveal me at
Speaker 3: the door, and the audience gasped a big gasp, and
Speaker 3: then they started cheering, and they cheered for a long time,
Speaker 3: and we just had to stand there staring at each
Speaker 3: other with that.
Speaker 1: I bet you know it was in the entire run
Speaker 1: of Boy Mets Rold. I bet you it was the longest,
Speaker 1: most genuine audience reaction we'd ever had, you think, so,
Speaker 1: say I do. I can't think of another moment that
Speaker 1: was because I remember all of us sitting there, because
Speaker 1: we're all in the scene at this point, and all
Speaker 1: of us just sitting there holding and holding, and when
Speaker 1: you're on a stage like that and the audience is there,
Speaker 1: five seconds feels like fifty seconds. So thirty seconds felt
Speaker 1: like minutes that we were sitting there as they were
Speaker 1: going off, and I can't think of another reaction that
Speaker 1: was that long or real.
Speaker 3: It's so funny too, because since we've been doing the
Speaker 3: I remember it vividly and I remember thinking, Wow, this
Speaker 3: was way more than I was expecting. And as we're
Speaker 3: doing the rewatch, I'm thinking, I guess it's different if
Speaker 3: you're young, because we've had to be told so much
Speaker 3: about their relationship that it it does feel to me
Speaker 3: like a little all of this feels a little anti climactic,
Speaker 3: like Okay, God settled down, guys.
Speaker 2: She's there.
Speaker 1: It's fine. Yeah, very briefly, I have a technical question
Speaker 1: the rain outside.
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Because I don't remember how they did this. Was it
Speaker 1: just did they wet you down and then it was
Speaker 1: sheeting on the windows or was there a rain machine
Speaker 1: outside the door? So you're actually getting rained on outside
Speaker 1: the door.
Speaker 3: No, I wasn't getting rained on. I was just all
Speaker 3: wet and sprayed down and then they had the rain
Speaker 3: on the window.
Speaker 1: That's what I figured.
Speaker 3: Oh that's what I Yeah, so I I you know,
Speaker 3: that's why my hair still looks glorious. It's like brushed
Speaker 3: back away from my face. It was like I remember
Speaker 3: being like, she needs to look like a wet rat,
Speaker 3: but we still want her to be cute.
Speaker 1: Okay, So like from Joey the Rat, who was cute.
Speaker 2: A sexy Joey the Rat.
Speaker 4: Where's my where's my fleece? Cropped up?
Speaker 1: Well, you are in the rain.
Speaker 2: But what choice has Corey made? What has Corey? What
Speaker 2: has Corey done in this entire episode?
Speaker 3: Well, the funny thing is that it feels like what
Speaker 3: he's just decided is I'm done with Tipega right before
Speaker 3: she shows up. It feels like he says, you know,
Speaker 3: because I mean he does he says, if life doesn't
Speaker 3: want us to be together, you can't fight life.
Speaker 4: So I'm basically that's it. I'm out. I guess I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna have to I'm sad, but I'm I'm moving on.
Speaker 2: Chooses to break up. But that's why they had to
Speaker 2: keep it vague in the beginning, because they wanted they
Speaker 2: had to highlight that he is choosing to still be
Speaker 2: able not to move on to to break up with
Speaker 2: her at this moment. And it just, you know, right
Speaker 2: at the act break there she is there, she is okay, Yeah,
Speaker 2: that makes sense because his dad does say we can
Speaker 2: go visit.
Speaker 1: Her, and he goes no.
Speaker 3: It's just also weird because in that moment, this is
Speaker 3: the first reveal that he's made the phone calls, he's
Speaker 3: written the letters.
Speaker 4: There's been no In that first.
Speaker 3: Scene with the makeout stuff, he doesn't say like and
Speaker 3: and and I've been trying so hard since she's been gone,
Speaker 3: and now I'm she's not writing me back, or we
Speaker 3: haven't talked in a few days, and I'm starting to
Speaker 3: wonder if maybe there's somebody else. None of that set up.
Speaker 3: It's just like, but we find it out here in
Speaker 3: the scene, right before she shows up. So there's a lot,
Speaker 3: there's a lot of this needed to be a three parter.
Speaker 1: No, it's just that first scene needs to be. If
Speaker 1: that first scene was different and just they got rid
Speaker 1: of the messiness of the first scene, it.
Speaker 4: Would really needed a rewrite to set the rest.
Speaker 1: Of this up. Absolutely. If it's just Corey on the
Speaker 1: phone leaving a message to Pega, I'm leaving another message
Speaker 1: for you. I don't know where you are, I mean
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's more like an argument. It's more like a discussion,
Speaker 2: and it's more like Corey laying out his vision of
Speaker 2: the world. And now we get into it. Now it's
Speaker 2: just going to be monologues and debates and then everything
Speaker 2: that gets changed, the change the entire Corey to Pango relaationship.
Speaker 1: You now, after this episode, you need to believe they
Speaker 1: have been together since they were eight months old and
Speaker 1: there forever and new minutes to do it.
Speaker 2: This is the new testament of we're rewriting, We're now
Speaker 2: and to the next stage, and you have to just
Speaker 2: accept this as.
Speaker 1: The real exactly that's what they did.
Speaker 2: The whole point is that you're a kid, I know,
Speaker 2: you don't know anything.
Speaker 3: So then we go to a commercial break. We're back
Speaker 3: in the Matthew's kitchen. Tapanga asks Corey if he's going
Speaker 3: to hug her, and he does. I missed you so much,
Speaker 3: he admits. Allan and Amy both say hi to her,
Speaker 3: and Amy asks if her parents would like to come in.
Speaker 3: Eric closes the door and announces there are no parents.
Speaker 3: Amy asks your parents dropped you off? And Eric answers,
Speaker 3: I'm betting no, and you're eating licorice.
Speaker 1: I love the act's favorite. You ask for that. You
Speaker 1: must have asked for that, right I did. I think
Speaker 1: I was at the Brad Pitt eating stage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, of your.
Speaker 1: Career, of my career, which is I totally think it works, man.
Speaker 2: I mean it's like, yeah, because you had the toothpick
Speaker 2: in the previous episode like two episodes, and yeah, I
Speaker 2: think it's but in this case, like there's nothing for
Speaker 2: you to do now, and it makes it so much
Speaker 2: funnier if you're like, man, I'm just you know, you're
Speaker 2: basically eating popcorn, right, it's like the idea of like
Speaker 2: can't wait and that's the rest of your part for
Speaker 2: the rest of the Yes, that's it. It totally works.
Speaker 4: So funny, so uh.
Speaker 3: Tapega tells Corey she couldn't be without him. Amy asks,
Speaker 3: your parents don't know you're here, do they? Tapanga shakes
Speaker 3: her head. Well, Eric narrates no, no, they don't. Alan
Speaker 3: knows this is trouble. Your parents are going to be
Speaker 3: very worried about you, and she gets defensive. They weren't
Speaker 3: worried about me when they decided to move. Tapega told
Speaker 3: her parents how much Corey meant to her and how
Speaker 3: she couldn't be away from him. They just told her
Speaker 3: she was too young to say things like that. Tapega
Speaker 3: explains she didn't run away from her parents, She ran
Speaker 3: away to Corey. Alan turns to Amy. It just got
Speaker 3: serious now. Amy tells Tapanga she has to call her parents,
Speaker 3: and Corey tries to stop her. Her parents don't understand her,
Speaker 3: just like his parents don't understand him. Amy calmly tells Tapanga,
Speaker 3: I know you, miss Corey, but to come here without
Speaker 3: your parents' permission, that's just wrong. Corey yells, how can
Speaker 3: it be wrong if she loves me enough to do that.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry I didn't do it myself. And to Panga,
Speaker 3: let's add a little smile all right.
Speaker 2: Then this is I mean, that is like some whacked
Speaker 2: up logic.
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 2: It's so self justified, right, Like, well, how can it
Speaker 2: be wrong if because I'm in love and if I
Speaker 2: do something out of love that it can't be wrong.
Speaker 2: Therefore it's not wrong, right, It's you know, it's like,
Speaker 2: how can it be bad if love can't be bad
Speaker 2: and I love you, therefore I can do nothing bad.
Speaker 2: It's like, this is really not healthy. This is logic,
Speaker 2: but it's too sure, but the show bends to it
Speaker 2: for the rest of I mean, this is this is
Speaker 2: the escalation that we set up. Now there's no way out.
Speaker 1: She has to go not go to Yale. They have
Speaker 1: to get married.
Speaker 2: Like you've you've changed the rules of the show. You
Speaker 2: said from now on, Corey. Is you know this love
Speaker 2: is going to defy all the adults, It's going to
Speaker 2: defy reality, and you're going to it's and that that
Speaker 2: is just and that it's like whoa, Okay, now you
Speaker 2: can do nothing wrong, but if you're doing it for love.
Speaker 3: I think the world doesn't feel yet like it's bending
Speaker 3: to it to me because every adult in the scene
Speaker 3: is still saying.
Speaker 2: Right, But the point of this episode is that every
Speaker 2: adult bends like every and then the whole reality bends.
Speaker 3: They don't bend because they agree, you're right, you're in
Speaker 3: love and you should be together. They bend because the
Speaker 3: idea that Tapanga has lived here her entire life and
Speaker 3: has grown up here, and it's only one year before
Speaker 3: she's going to move for college anyway, And so they
Speaker 3: end up agreeing kind of like, not because you should
Speaker 3: be with Corey, but because really it's there. It is
Speaker 3: a lot to ask of a seventeen year old kid
Speaker 3: to move the last year of high school and uproot
Speaker 3: their entire life if there is another solution so that
Speaker 3: she could stay. Not because I think she should stay
Speaker 3: because you and Corey should be together necessarily, but because
Speaker 3: it is an uprooting of your life and all of
Speaker 3: the adults, including Aunt Prue, because I didn't remember that
Speaker 3: Aunt Prudence actually still.
Speaker 4: Says, I do not love this relationship.
Speaker 3: I actually think this is an illness, and I don't
Speaker 3: love the exclusivity of it. I don't like any of that,
Speaker 3: but I do think you should be allowed for one
Speaker 3: more year of your life before you decide where you're
Speaker 3: going to go to college. You should be able to
Speaker 3: stay in this place, not because we're going to get
Speaker 3: you an apartment and emancipate you and change your entire life,
Speaker 3: but because you could live with me.
Speaker 2: But Aunt Prue is just like the Deis x Makina
Speaker 2: who comes in and fixes the situation. Yeah, but the
Speaker 2: whole situation, Like you do convince Alan than Amy than FIENI,
Speaker 2: You watch all the pillars fall of the adult world,
Speaker 2: and they all bend to this logic that Corey just stated,
Speaker 2: which is, how can it be crazy if we're in love?
Speaker 2: And then they're all going to try and support them,
Speaker 2: you know, and they change their minds, and the situation
Speaker 2: then just magically gets fixed by am Pru showing up
Speaker 2: and saying why she can stay with me?
Speaker 1: Okay, but like, and that's what I mean.
Speaker 2: The whole reality of Boy Meets World is no longer
Speaker 2: that the adults, that the powerlessness of childhood is the
Speaker 2: whole point of the show, and now it's no longer
Speaker 2: the point. The point is that they are empowered through
Speaker 2: their love, and they are they are better than the adults,
Speaker 2: they are better than the world, and they're going to
Speaker 2: make it no matter what. And that's just that's a romance.
Speaker 2: It's a romance story, and they're gonna and you know,
Speaker 2: now we've set ourselves up. That's why I thought maybe God,
Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of short sighted because now the
Speaker 2: show has to keep insistent for it, and it has
Speaker 2: to keep digging in deeper in order to rationalize this.
Speaker 1: But it gets even crazier because if they're juniors in
Speaker 1: high school, they're engaged in a year.
Speaker 4: Right, Oh yeah, I propose graduation going in high school graduation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they're engaged here.
Speaker 2: Well, can it be crazy if you're in love?
Speaker 3: Amy begs Alan to help her here he jumps in.
Speaker 3: First of all, we are not the enemy. We understand
Speaker 3: that you two want to be together, but this is
Speaker 3: not the way to go about it. Amy tells them
Speaker 3: she's calling, and just in case you thought, well, how
Speaker 3: does she know Tapanga's number, the kitchen whiteboard actually says.
Speaker 4: To the phone number.
Speaker 3: So Corey runs to Topanga and promises no one will
Speaker 3: take her away from him. He turns to his parents
Speaker 3: and Alan's eyes we have to They embrace and kind
Speaker 3: of touch noses, and then we're in the Matthews living
Speaker 3: room to Panga now and very comfy looking sweats is
Speaker 3: drying off her hair while Corey recaps all the days
Speaker 3: they haven't spoken to each other since she's left. She explains,
Speaker 3: I could have sat and talked to you on the
Speaker 3: phone every day, but it was just the phone, and
Speaker 3: every time I hung up it got harder for me.
Speaker 3: I just tried to stay busy. He gets defensive. Does
Speaker 3: busy include going to the school dance with your new friends?
Speaker 4: Oh, Corey, calm down.
Speaker 2: I know he was trying to make out with somebody
Speaker 2: or thought Sean.
Speaker 5: It was so weird.
Speaker 4: It was like, where did he even get that idea?
Speaker 4: And why is he so angry at.
Speaker 2: The where she did? Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I almost read it like he was almost doing
Speaker 1: it tongue in cheek, but maybe not, Like does that
Speaker 1: include going to your you know? Maybe?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: It seemed like he had to of a lilt to it,
Speaker 1: but not yet. It was a little strange.
Speaker 3: She questions, how'd you know? He admits that it was
Speaker 3: just a guess and to Pega says it was just
Speaker 3: something to do. She had a lousy time because all
Speaker 3: she could think about was Corey and the audience loudly
Speaker 3: Oh favorite writer was really stabbing himself in the eyeball
Speaker 3: there to Pega wonders, you missed a phone caller too?
Speaker 1: Where were you?
Speaker 3: Corey responds if I missed a phone calls because I
Speaker 3: was at the mailbox checking for a letter.
Speaker 4: And on cue, Sean bursts through the door. The Sparrows
Speaker 4: sister's call. They want to see us again. The audience
Speaker 4: can't see.
Speaker 3: To Pegau, it's just a random person there bodies and
Speaker 3: the audience loves this. It's a big reaction to this happening.
Speaker 3: Sean continues, Naturally, I told them you were married. Great timing, yep,
Speaker 3: all very very funny. To Pega smiles. The Sparrow sisters,
Speaker 3: they were in your mailbox, were they? Corey responds, trust me,
Speaker 3: I love you?
Speaker 4: She smiles. I know you do. I love you too. Cool.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: You also notice that your hair, your hair keeps getting
Speaker 1: wetter and then's dry and it's wet. I know.
Speaker 3: It kept it was bothering me the whole time. It's like,
Speaker 3: just stick with the fact that her hair is dry. Now,
Speaker 3: it's been enough time that her hair has dried, please,
Speaker 3: or that I tried it with a hair dryer.
Speaker 4: We do not need to keep going.
Speaker 2: Say your hair's wet. You're wearing Corey's clothes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why.
Speaker 2: Wait, her hair's not wet enough.
Speaker 4: Maybe her hair's a mess something.
Speaker 1: It was several levels of dampness. It was so went.
Speaker 3: It went back and forth so many times. So then
Speaker 3: Sean puts two and two together. Your hair's wet, You're
Speaker 3: wearing Corey's clothes. He ran away, didn't you. She nods
Speaker 3: and he laughs. She gets that from me. Then Corey's
Speaker 3: parents walk down the stairs and Sean exclaims, hey, she
Speaker 3: ran away. But Alan and Amy aren't pleased, so Sean
Speaker 3: changes his tone, bad bad, bad girl, and then you
Speaker 3: run out of the house. I love this drive I
Speaker 3: love I love the drive by involved.
Speaker 1: Drive by Sean.
Speaker 2: I wonder if there's ever a draft or that tried
Speaker 2: to keep me around for any of this discussion.
Speaker 4: And by the way, it.
Speaker 3: Would have been funny for you and Eric to be
Speaker 3: in kahoots on oh I eating popcorn. It's the meme,
Speaker 3: you guys, would have been the meme of just sitting
Speaker 3: back eating popcorn.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And it just I just don't know where Sean's at, Like,
Speaker 2: is he rooting for Topanga great this point?
Speaker 4: Is he not it's there.
Speaker 1: It's not about you, it's not about they did that
Speaker 1: last episode. You had an opinion, You don't need an
Speaker 1: opinion this episode.
Speaker 3: Sure, Ellen reveals they called Tapega's parents and Amy continues,
Speaker 3: and later on, Corey angrily cuts her off, and later
Speaker 3: on what she's going back to her house? Then fine,
Speaker 3: I'm going with her. Amy reminds him, you live here.
Speaker 3: Tapanga lives in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 4: I didn't do it.
Speaker 3: Stop jumping on me. Cory argues, I'm jumping on you
Speaker 3: because you seem happy about this. Why don't you want
Speaker 3: us to be together? I do not think she seems
Speaker 3: happy about this. She's not happy at all. And I
Speaker 3: love their argument because I can totally see myself having
Speaker 3: this conversation with Adler. Adler, I'm not the enemy here.
Speaker 3: Let's let's work together. I understand.
Speaker 4: I'm hearing you. I love writer.
Speaker 3: We've talked about it a lot in parenting, just validating
Speaker 3: your kids feelings.
Speaker 4: They do it so often in this episode. I have
Speaker 4: heard you.
Speaker 3: You want to be together, you love each other. Please
Speaker 3: stop attacking us.
Speaker 1: Wait you and talk to me like that all the time?
Speaker 1: Are you validating my feelings?
Speaker 2: Do you validate your feelings. That is right, It's okay
Speaker 2: that you feel this way. It's okay that you feel
Speaker 2: that way. It's like, it's one of the most human
Speaker 2: things that we all take for granted. Is that just
Speaker 2: having like your feelings said back to you is so powerful.
Speaker 3: You're like, great, yeah, it really, it's it's so good.
Speaker 3: Eric frantically runs into the room from the kitchen.
Speaker 4: I hear yelling.
Speaker 3: Alan tells him to go upstairs, but Eric doesn't budge.
Speaker 3: I hear yelling, I'm not involved. I'm staying so again. Now,
Speaker 3: your whole point through the rest of this is just drama,
Speaker 3: and I'm not in it.
Speaker 2: I want to watch it, which is we need the
Speaker 2: comic relief, right, we need to break it up just
Speaker 2: to help it at some point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then Amy continues to Corey, you cannot make
Speaker 3: adult life decisions without adult life experiences behind those decisions
Speaker 3: to make them stand up valid good point. Corey simply states,
Speaker 3: I love her.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: That's the entire episode of That's all that matters, So
Speaker 3: you say, Amy responds, but what does love mean to you?
Speaker 3: At sixteen years old? Amy says she's been with Alan
Speaker 3: for twenty two years and she is just now beginning
Speaker 3: to realize what love really means. Eric loudly questions, was
Speaker 3: I a big surprise? They completely disregard him?
Speaker 2: Amy, does that make sense? I don't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I didn't get an jor because if they were together
Speaker 2: for that meant long? Because Eric's nineteen, right, So it's
Speaker 2: not what I know.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: What is a joke that that that she's slept with
Speaker 2: somebody else? Because she's saying because she says, I'm just
Speaker 2: now beginning to understand. So is he saying like, oh,
Speaker 2: you guys still haven't made love, so I couldn't have
Speaker 2: been right?
Speaker 3: I don't or I definitely don't think it's a cheating thing.
Speaker 3: I think it's more like, if you weren't I was,
Speaker 3: I should have been born from love. Babies are born
Speaker 3: from love, and so if I was born and you
Speaker 3: didn't love him.
Speaker 4: Yet, okay, god, I must have been a big surprise.
Speaker 4: But it's a lot of it's a lot of math
Speaker 4: for ye.
Speaker 3: For I feel like there's a there's a punchier, harder
Speaker 3: joke there than was I a big surprise?
Speaker 4: But it's still funny.
Speaker 1: It's still funny. I mean, just anything Eric says, at
Speaker 1: this point, it's like a break and you're.
Speaker 4: Like, ah, exactly, You're like, thank you.
Speaker 3: Amy asks Corey to tell her what love means then,
Speaker 3: and he tells them, I haven't been together with Tapanga
Speaker 3: for twenty two two years, but we have been together
Speaker 3: for sixteen.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's a lot longer than most couples.
Speaker 3: Cool, Corey reminds them, building the alternate timeline piece by piece.
Speaker 3: When we were born, you told me that we used
Speaker 3: to take walks in our strollers together around the block.
Speaker 3: When we were two, we were best friends. When we
Speaker 3: were six, Eric made fun of me because it wasn't
Speaker 3: cool to have a best friend that's a girl. So
Speaker 3: for the next seven years I threw dirt at her.
Speaker 3: So for seven of the sixteen years you were he.
Speaker 1: Was throwing Yeah, you were not together. It's a significant
Speaker 1: Fifty percent is a significant.
Speaker 3: A significant portion, especially when the other portion of it
Speaker 3: is from eight months to six.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. It's like me, it's like, well, I haven't
Speaker 1: smoked for ten years. From zero to ten, I was
Speaker 1: not a smoker. It's like that's.
Speaker 4: Exactly, yeah, exactly. It's so so funny.
Speaker 3: I like to call those the last years to Panka
Speaker 3: asks Eric, you were the one who made him throw
Speaker 3: dirt at me, and eric'scoss you were a girl noogie head,
Speaker 3: which is.
Speaker 1: Just such a weird And that's when I was like, ooh, okay,
Speaker 1: I didn't know what else to do. But in my
Speaker 1: as I'm sitting there watching him, like, how would I
Speaker 1: do that? Now, that's what I realized. I wouldn't. I
Speaker 1: would be like, we do something other than NOGGI. Heead,
Speaker 1: it's just not working for me.
Speaker 4: I thought it was kind of cute.
Speaker 3: Corey Can continues transitioning into the real timeline. When I
Speaker 3: was thirteen, she put me up against my locker and
Speaker 3: she kissed me. She gave me my first kiss. She
Speaker 3: taught me how to dance, and Corey closes with that's
Speaker 3: what I like.
Speaker 1: He was twelve, twelveleven or twelve?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, and it was.
Speaker 3: And it was both of our first kiss and he
Speaker 3: closes with that's what I think love is. When I'm
Speaker 3: better because she's here and now she won't be. Dapanga
Speaker 3: tells him why it's a good thing that Corey is
Speaker 3: the only boy she's ever loved. She gives a sweet
Speaker 3: little speech about wanting to do the things people who
Speaker 3: were in love do and with Corey instead of some
Speaker 3: random guy in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: Do do you do you remember this? Do you remember
Speaker 1: Michael's talking to you about this? This was during a
Speaker 1: note session? Oh yeah, no, this was during a note session.
Speaker 1: I guess you ran by it one time and he's like,
Speaker 1: do you realize what you're saying? You're saying we want
Speaker 1: to lose our virginity together. I don't want to do
Speaker 1: it with some other random guy. And he like laid
Speaker 1: it out for you where he's like, you are saying
Speaker 1: that you guys want to eventually have sex together for
Speaker 1: the first time ever. And I remember saying it. I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I think she got it, but you
Speaker 1: don't need to bracket it as much as you did,
Speaker 1: Like it was right. Yeah, but I just think it's
Speaker 1: one of the few memories I have from this week.
Speaker 4: Was maybe that's why I read.
Speaker 3: I understood it so clearly when I was watching it,
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, really spelling it out.
Speaker 1: There's the way we pointed that out. Do you realize
Speaker 1: what it saying?
Speaker 2: Like, Okay, her argument is like, why would I just
Speaker 2: you know, have an I guess love making experience or
Speaker 2: just a relationship with some random guy because he happens
Speaker 2: to live in Pittsburgh as opposed to the guy who
Speaker 2: just happened to be born four blocks away from me. Like,
Speaker 2: why is this any better necessarily? Right? Like, well, we
Speaker 2: were just.
Speaker 4: Sixteen years The idea is, just.
Speaker 1: What does that make it better?
Speaker 2: Just because you know somebody for sixteen years doesn't especially
Speaker 2: if you're a kid, That doesn't mean that doesn't rationalize
Speaker 2: that you should have sex with them, right, Like, that
Speaker 2: doesn't make.
Speaker 1: Sure we've known a lot of people.
Speaker 4: For them, we would have all lived together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what they what he's trying to say
Speaker 1: is that Topanga, they've already established that Tapanga is chased
Speaker 1: in her way, so eventually she wanted to experience this
Speaker 1: with a person she had this deep spiritual connection with.
Speaker 3: Correct And the idea for Tapanga is that this is
Speaker 3: the age when that kind of stuff starts to happen.
Speaker 3: And if it's gonna happen when I'm living in another place,
Speaker 3: it's going to be with somebody I haven't had a
Speaker 3: sixteen year history with with, It's gonna be with somebody.
Speaker 2: Right, and I love that probably be better I can't
Speaker 2: like the idea to me of like the fact that
Speaker 2: we were born in the same town, come from the
Speaker 2: same class, race, you know, a subset of whatever you
Speaker 2: take categors in her mouth, I'm saying, just in life,
Speaker 2: like like I believe, like no, go out, experience, meet
Speaker 2: more people. The chances of you finding somebody great. Increase
Speaker 2: the diversity of people that you meet in the world.
Speaker 2: So explore the world, move to another city, change and
Speaker 2: you will more likely find a good person.
Speaker 1: Why do you have to just stay in your try
Speaker 1: for your small little subject?
Speaker 4: Very clear together, very clear writer.
Speaker 1: That's but that's the answer. That's what they say, that's
Speaker 1: the answer. It is No, they're just bethouse. It's faith.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's supernatural. I mean that's the thing. It's it's
Speaker 2: an article of faith, right, I mean that's what we're
Speaker 2: talking about, because he says love is faith, so it's
Speaker 2: just have faith in this. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Eric asks, should I call the caterers? And then the
Speaker 4: doorbell rings? Any jokes? Never mind, they're here.
Speaker 3: Alan reveals it's actually Topanga's aunt to Peg gets shocked.
Speaker 4: My aunt Prudence.
Speaker 3: Corey's hopeful maybe she'll be on our side. Corey is
Speaker 3: still convinced he and to Panga are Romeo and Juliet,
Speaker 3: But to Pega says her aunt has never been in love,
Speaker 3: never been married, and wouldn't even know who Romeo and
Speaker 3: Juliet were.
Speaker 4: Sat up, sat ups thatt uh.
Speaker 3: The door opens to reveal Aunt Prudence aka Olivia Hussey
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty eight's Juliet.
Speaker 1: And there's no way our audience would know who that was.
Speaker 4: That's exactly what I said.
Speaker 3: They gave a raucous applause, and that was definitely asked
Speaker 3: for applause, lights.
Speaker 4: Please, please please. The crowd gives a rowdy applause.
Speaker 3: Eric sees her and asks, how is that possible? Because
Speaker 3: my aunt looks like an elephant. Alan reminds him that's
Speaker 3: my sister you're talking about, Eric, Lass She.
Speaker 1: Does, man, just pointing at it right in her face.
Speaker 4: How is that possible? I know, it's so funny.
Speaker 3: Aunt pru strolls in and greets her niece, then refers
Speaker 3: to Corey as the young man who has her niece
Speaker 3: so smitten. Corey begs her not to take to Panga
Speaker 3: away from him. She apologizes. Her instructions are to take
Speaker 3: to Panga home with her and put her on a
Speaker 3: train to Pittsburgh first thing in the morning. To Penga
Speaker 3: begs him to help, but he's convinced everyone wants them
Speaker 3: apart except Alan. Corey asks if he's really going to
Speaker 3: let them take Tapanga away, and Alan says, I don't
Speaker 3: think I'm going to have to, and you're right right.
Speaker 3: This is where I forgot about this part where like
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, the adults kind of just crumble.
Speaker 3: Alan explains, you may have known Tapanga since you were born,
Speaker 3: but I've known your mother like forever. And what I
Speaker 3: know about your mother and the thing I respect in
Speaker 3: her the most, is that she has always put her
Speaker 3: faith in love when she sees it, he emphasizes, which
Speaker 3: is why she chose me when her parents told her
Speaker 3: not to love.
Speaker 1: Is faith?
Speaker 3: Do you love your mother? Corey answers yes, and Alan
Speaker 3: tells him, then have faith. Amy slowly strolls over to Tapanga.
Speaker 3: It would be wrong, and then she turns to Aunt
Speaker 3: Prue and finishes for Tapega to go back to.
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and changes for Betsy.
Speaker 4: That is the part I don't know.
Speaker 2: This is the big turn, is that she's been basically
Speaker 2: saying the same thing, and Pru has been saying, but
Speaker 2: then right now because of what Rusty says, She.
Speaker 1: Rusty, but Rusty specifically says he's reminding her your parents
Speaker 1: did not want me to be with you either. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and look what he says, like the way that your
Speaker 1: parents did. So I think he's reminding her this was us. Yes,
Speaker 1: we are, these two and we How great would it
Speaker 1: have been had your parents been supportive of us when
Speaker 1: we needed them to be? So let's be supportive of
Speaker 1: them now. I think that's what they were going. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and necessarily worked, but that's what they're going.
Speaker 4: But that is what they're going for.
Speaker 3: You're absolutely right, Prudence has taken aback. Certainly, you're not
Speaker 3: suggesting I let some puppy love between two sixteen year
Speaker 3: old children interfere with her parents' wishes, and Amy nods,
Speaker 3: explaining that Topanga was born and raised in Philly and
Speaker 3: forcing Tapanga to Pittsburgh for one year before she has
Speaker 3: to leave again for college is irresponsible. Prudence is pleased
Speaker 3: to hear Amy calling Toapanga's parents irresponsible, so she sits down,
Speaker 3: inviting Amy to continue. Amy brings Tapanga into her arms
Speaker 3: as they PLoP down on the couch. She's known to
Speaker 3: Panga for sixteen years too, it's hard not to love her.
Speaker 4: No matter how old he is. It will be hard
Speaker 4: for him to find better.
Speaker 3: And I got emotional watching it because I remember getting
Speaker 3: emotional in the moment every time with Betsy.
Speaker 1: You could tell it was very real, that moment that
Speaker 1: you had with her. You could tell you were choked
Speaker 1: up there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was choked up. Betsy was choked up.
Speaker 3: And you know, because I do remember for Betsy and
Speaker 3: I this feeling of like we love each other so much.
Speaker 3: And so the fact that she gets to say to me,
Speaker 3: even though I don't necessarily agree with their relationship to Panga,
Speaker 3: it's not because to Panga isn't good.
Speaker 4: She's great.
Speaker 3: And that part was that's part such a nice feeling.
Speaker 3: It's not that I don't love you. I think you're
Speaker 3: the best, it's just all this other stuff. So I
Speaker 3: remember getting choked up there. Amy tells Corey, you're my son.
Speaker 3: I never want you to be in pain. Prudence asked
Speaker 3: the kids if they would excuse them so she could
Speaker 3: speak to Amy and Allen alone, and they oblige. Walking
Speaker 3: into the kitchen, Alan gives them a reassuring nod and
Speaker 3: a weirdly timed one shot. Eric, still in the room,
Speaker 3: puts his feet up on the table to get comfortable.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm staying.
Speaker 3: And then we're in the Matthew's backyard. Cory and t
Speaker 3: Banker are sitting on the bench waiting for a final decision.
Speaker 3: Phoene walks outside to find them together, and they break
Speaker 3: apart from their cuddling position. Phoenie insists, this isn't the classroom,
Speaker 3: as you were. Phoene asks, even though this isn't the classroom,
Speaker 3: would you mind if I taught you a lesson?
Speaker 4: Anyway?
Speaker 3: They nod, and Phoenie continues, believe it or not, there
Speaker 3: was a time in my life where I cared for
Speaker 3: someone as deeply as you two care for each other. Now,
Speaker 3: Corey surprised you believe we love each other. Phoene moves on,
Speaker 3: and for no reason, I understood My wife was taken
Speaker 3: from me, and I haven't been so deeply in love since.
Speaker 4: Cory smiles.
Speaker 1: I know I knew, you knew it, you knew it
Speaker 1: was coming. But every time he talks about it, and
Speaker 1: you just see, Lilian, this man who never never remarried,
Speaker 1: never did anything just found the love of his life
Speaker 1: and then she was gone and you don't really know how,
Speaker 1: and it's just very You put yourself in that when
Speaker 1: you're married or you have a part and you put
Speaker 1: yourself in that position and it's cut wrenching, gut wrenching.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that was such a great backstory.
Speaker 1: Oh it's awesome, and he's just so we talk about
Speaker 1: it every week, but it's so on another level acting
Speaker 1: with him where there's not a false moment ever.
Speaker 4: Ever, it also reminded me of my grandfather.
Speaker 3: Have a very lovely story about my grandfather who married
Speaker 3: my grandmother when they were in their late twenties early thirties.
Speaker 3: They left Malta on their honeymoon. Their honeymoon was taking
Speaker 3: the Queen Mary. On the last trip the Queen Mary
Speaker 3: took from Malta to where it docked, and they actually
Speaker 3: took it to New York. It was the last trip
Speaker 3: it took. They came over here. They moved to San Francisco.
Speaker 3: They had my mom and my two aunts, and then
Speaker 3: they moved to southern California. Back no one of my
Speaker 3: time about they live. They lived in San Francisco, then
Speaker 3: they moved down to southern California, raised their kids, had
Speaker 3: all these grandkids, and then at my grand My grandmother
Speaker 3: was fifty five years old and I was two when
Speaker 3: she died of leukemia, and her youngest daughter, my mom,
Speaker 3: was twenty five, and my grandfather lived to be ninety
Speaker 3: nine and a half. He just passed away a year ago.
Speaker 3: And he never remarried. He never dated, and I just
Speaker 3: always thought like, wow, what a love story. He just
Speaker 3: never you know, it was just never going to be
Speaker 3: the same. And one day I got up the courage
Speaker 3: to ask him, Papa, why didn't you ever date anyone
Speaker 3: after Grandma died? Why didn't you ever want to get remarried?
Speaker 3: Was it just because she was the love of your life?
Speaker 3: And he said get married again? No, I made that
Speaker 3: mistake once.
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't have to do that again.
Speaker 2: Oh oh.
Speaker 1: You never dated though.
Speaker 5: He never even dated, Nope, never even dated. Just had
Speaker 5: his had a garage with a workshop and worked on
Speaker 5: his totally. That's so independent. And had three daughters and
Speaker 5: was like they're grown and married and I have grandkids and.
Speaker 1: That's really yeah, No, why would I do that again?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I made that mistake once. It was like, oh oh, Okay,
Speaker 4: well I'm gonna I actually liked the one where I
Speaker 4: didn't ask and I.
Speaker 1: It was the grandma was your only love? So would
Speaker 1: I talk about that? When you see like the polygamous things,
Speaker 1: and she's ever like the idea of having multiple lives,
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you kidding? Thank you so much?
Speaker 4: Work so much.
Speaker 1: Now. My grandmother, we all had that, My grandm my
Speaker 1: mom's mom. My grandfather died when he was like fifty one,
Speaker 1: and she spent the rest of her life alone. She traveled,
Speaker 1: she saw the world. She had a bunch of friends,
Speaker 1: but never remarried. I don't think dated much. It was
Speaker 1: just it was different back then, totally.
Speaker 3: So Phoene preaches on, I believe that when you find love,
Speaker 3: you hold onto it and cherish it because there is
Speaker 3: nothing finer and it may never come again, And that,
Speaker 3: my DearS, is the most important thing that I could
Speaker 3: teach you. It's revealed that Prudence, Amy and Allen are
Speaker 3: outside listening in on Phoene's lesson, and Prudence abruptly asks
Speaker 3: who is that guy? Tapanga answers, that's mister Feenie. Corey
Speaker 3: ads he knows everything. Prudence insists, no, he doesn't the
Speaker 3: audience wildly ooh that this bold statement. The prisoners were
Speaker 3: on one for this taping.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I was just so lost. I just
Speaker 2: don't know. I didn't understand the tension. I didn't understand what.
Speaker 2: I just didn't. I just, yeah, what is Phoene doing?
Speaker 1: Like they wanted to, I think you're right exactly what
Speaker 1: you said at the beginning. They wanted two old school
Speaker 1: stage actors to go at it on stage, and they
Speaker 1: didn't really think about why we're going to say or why.
Speaker 2: It was just that, I mean, just create a story
Speaker 2: where they're actually in opposition to each other. They have
Speaker 2: because right now, what is the problem. The problem is
Speaker 2: that she's got to go home back to Pittsburgh and
Speaker 2: like and but everybody's really in supportive the.
Speaker 3: That Feene is actually saying, because he's flat out says
Speaker 3: the love you have, hold on to it and don't
Speaker 3: let anybody take it from you. And Prudence is like, honestly,
Speaker 3: you guys should be dating others. So that's where they're
Speaker 3: in opposition. It's just not necessarily set up as well.
Speaker 3: Phoene wan beg your pardon, She explains, I don't know
Speaker 3: that I appreciate what you're teaching these children. She compares
Speaker 3: Phoene to being just as irresponsible as to Pang his parents.
Speaker 3: In the situation, Phoene stands his ground. If you choose
Speaker 3: to question my opinions, then you disregard thirty eight years
Speaker 3: in the public school system where I have borne the
Speaker 3: responsibility of those opinions for thirty thousand students, none held
Speaker 3: in higher regard than mister Matthews and Miss Laurence. Corey
Speaker 3: is shocked again you like me, Phoene tells him to
Speaker 3: stay out of it. Prudence responds, the only thing I
Speaker 3: presume is that you are as verbose as you are snappy. Phoene,
Speaker 3: trying to have a less verbose comeback, settles on, well,
Speaker 3: then there we are.
Speaker 1: Oh it's a great None of it makes any sense.
Speaker 1: It's totally unnecessary, but it's.
Speaker 2: A great response. And I like the aside where you know,
Speaker 2: Corey says you like me. I love that little bit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I don't know what's happening.
Speaker 1: I don't know what there'sides him raising thirty thousand are
Speaker 1: helping me. Thirty thousand kids have anything to do with
Speaker 1: Corey and Tipanga being in love. Well, I hate hearing
Speaker 1: Phoene be defensive too, Like, I don't think he should
Speaker 1: ever have to be defensive like Phoenie.
Speaker 4: You know, I should understand his point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's just confident, like he's just he's all known.
Speaker 1: So I also, if Aunt Prudence lives in town so
Speaker 1: she can stay in school, why not give a backstory
Speaker 1: where they've known each other?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 4: Also, wouldn't they have seen each other at Chubby's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean exactly the one restaurant in town. I
Speaker 1: mean something, Oh, lovely, Prudence, you're back, something to give
Speaker 1: them some kind right they have?
Speaker 2: They have a Shakespeare club together, and they hate each other.
Speaker 2: They're on opposite sides of every play.
Speaker 1: I'm tamed and tamed and tamed, and yet the shrew
Speaker 1: is still here. Yeah, something like that. There's so many
Speaker 1: things you can do. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Amy tells Stefanga that her aunt has something to tell her.
Speaker 3: Prudence reveals I've spoken to your parents, and while I
Speaker 3: don't condone the intensity or exclusivity of this relationship, I
Speaker 3: also cannot condone the actions of my sister and brother
Speaker 3: in law.
Speaker 4: The verdict has been reached.
Speaker 3: If Tapanga would like to stay in Philadelphia, she's welcome
Speaker 3: to stay with her and Aunt Prudence while she finishes
Speaker 3: the remainder of high school. After Prudence finishes her spiel,
Speaker 3: Phoene asks, I'm Topenga, gives her aunt a giant hug
Speaker 3: and relief, then embraces Corey, knowing they'll be able to
Speaker 3: stay together.
Speaker 4: The audience gives them a.
Speaker 3: Huge round of applause, and Amy and Allen gaze at
Speaker 3: the two with happiness as they hold each other lovingly.
Speaker 1: And that's it.
Speaker 2: No tag, no tag, nothing, I mean, it's yeah, it's
Speaker 2: a yeah.
Speaker 1: You guys liked it.
Speaker 2: Though you liked this episode, you think.
Speaker 3: I overall did not. I agreed with every point you made,
Speaker 3: especially the preu stuff, and yet.
Speaker 4: Somehow I still I still kind of enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's how I look at it too. I like, again,
Speaker 1: I liked it. If we once again have to just
Speaker 1: say you have to be in on this now, you
Speaker 1: just have to accept this is what it's going to be,
Speaker 1: then it was good actors. Honestly, you know, on one
Speaker 1: small stage, it seemed like most of it took place
Speaker 1: in the living room. It was very like that. I enjoyed.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed seeing everybody act the adults getting a chance
Speaker 1: to act. Betsy killing it stuff like that was was great,
Speaker 1: but no, iget exactly what Danie I said. I agree
Speaker 1: with every point you made because they're all accurate, but
Speaker 1: I guess I have to just be like, I don't care.
Speaker 2: It's kind of, you know, it's kind of like the
Speaker 2: montage that you gave us crap for falling in love with.
Speaker 2: I guess we are now a romance show. We are
Speaker 2: love story love Sorry, and there you go.
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