Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.
Speaker 2: The Breakfast Club.
Speaker 3: Morning, everybody is stee j Envy, Jess hilarious, Charlamage, the guy.
Speaker 3: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest
Speaker 3: in the buildings.
Speaker 4: Indeed, the brother tank something when you know what I'm
Speaker 4: in here, man, look at young every time we see you.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's I use a good exfoliant. You know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: What's your routine in the morning. You got a face
Speaker 6: routine in the morning.
Speaker 5: Well, I use my my wife's you know, beauty tools
Speaker 5: and stuff. You know what I'm saying, Xena Foster beauty.
Speaker 5: Get over there. Got to get you, gotta get you. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I get you right. But that's about it. You know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: A little dove there you go.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I keep it clean.
Speaker 3: Take always happy every time you see Okay, wherever you
Speaker 3: see take if it's a club, if it's out in
Speaker 3: the streets, happy in.
Speaker 1: A good move.
Speaker 5: Listen, she's apparently been listening to my music, So I
Speaker 5: feel good about that.
Speaker 4: Take them just somebody been in there, didn't get out.
Speaker 2: This is serious.
Speaker 5: That's really awesome. I'm really happy for you.
Speaker 6: Do you make your movie, I mean, you make your
Speaker 6: music for those those moments.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's I mean that was kind of a
Speaker 5: point in the beginning. You know, like everything we do
Speaker 5: is for the attention of a woman or women for
Speaker 5: that matter, depending on how you play it, you know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So for me musically, like, I want
Speaker 5: to be connected to as many of those moments as
Speaker 5: humanly possible. I want to be responsible for bringing life
Speaker 5: into the universe.
Speaker 6: People come up to you and said that the club.
Speaker 5: I've met the kids, Yeah, no, I was born because
Speaker 5: I've met I'm that old now, you know what I'm
Speaker 5: saying to where I've met the children the offspring of
Speaker 5: my music. So I'm really out of that.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I see it feels like R and B, especially
Speaker 3: the nineties two thousands, R and B has picked up
Speaker 3: a lot more.
Speaker 1: Have you noticed that as well?
Speaker 5: Absolutely, the feeling a right, it's the feeling of it
Speaker 5: is what's back people want to and it's what's crazy
Speaker 5: is that. Of course, I give credit to the women
Speaker 5: for keeping R and B in the mainstream conversation, right,
Speaker 5: they have been kicking ass and taking names, right, But
Speaker 5: I gotta give some credit to hip hop to the
Speaker 5: sampling of all of this old R and B that
Speaker 5: they've been bringing back to the forefront and making people
Speaker 5: take a deep dive into what those samples are and
Speaker 5: rediscovering the original feelings and now desiring those things.
Speaker 6: Give me some examples.
Speaker 5: Shit so much. I was just listening to Doja cat
Speaker 5: those did. She just had record record with the T
Speaker 5: Troop record. I mean it originally Michael Jackson five, but
Speaker 5: I was like, remember the first time you heard true
Speaker 5: shout out to Little Steve and and like Chucky Booker
Speaker 5: and them, like the type of production you don't even
Speaker 5: do that no more. So you have to actually outsource
Speaker 5: it by going to the crates you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: and bringing that feeling back and and they don't know
Speaker 5: why it's connecting. We know because we were there, but
Speaker 5: it's it's something about that frequency. It just makes you
Speaker 5: feel good.
Speaker 7: When you like, like your first you did it with yourself,
Speaker 7: with your own music, you recreated I Deserve And was
Speaker 7: it you recreated?
Speaker 5: I did a well one of my own I Deserve.
Speaker 5: I was like, let me sample it for somebody else,
Speaker 5: sample it because they're gonna take all the money.
Speaker 8: Then and then I know it was Night One that
Speaker 8: you did.
Speaker 5: You okay, it was Brian originally Michelle and Decrichello, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. So there there was and I
Speaker 5: was like, you know what, I might as well get
Speaker 5: in on this too, because we rarely do that. And
Speaker 5: I was like, let me just tap into some old
Speaker 5: and of course bribe me to Night you know, one
Speaker 5: of my inspirations growing up, and Michelle and dego Cello
Speaker 5: is absolutely one of my favorites. So I just had
Speaker 5: to get some of that.
Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you, man. That was one of
Speaker 4: my questions I have for you. Is R and B
Speaker 4: music a sound or a feeling?
Speaker 5: It's both. It's both because it's like the feeling is
Speaker 5: express through the sounds, you know what I mean? Like
Speaker 5: you like think about like Davante, like how was he
Speaker 5: feeling when he made that when they were making Joe
Speaker 5: to Sy music? Like what was he on? You know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying? He when? When? When when Casey says,
Speaker 5: take my mother Jesus Christ, my house and my house
Speaker 5: and my car.
Speaker 8: You okay, let him work, let him work.
Speaker 5: You gotta you gotta mean that in order for it
Speaker 5: to resonate, like like, yes, you can take my money,
Speaker 5: my house, in my car for one hit of you.
Speaker 5: I mean them to this day, to this day. I
Speaker 5: mean now, but you.
Speaker 1: Don't hear that now out of that soul and that
Speaker 1: feeling was.
Speaker 6: A slick way you're telling somebody, I'll give you the world.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, but we moved into this, you know, we
Speaker 5: moved into this kind of you know, samp and all
Speaker 5: of these things. When it comes to taking care of women.
Speaker 5: I just think that men are just they've they've been
Speaker 5: programmed to not be vulnerable. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: They've been programmed to not to not cater. I don't
Speaker 5: know who started that. You know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 5: ain't pimping, It ain't player, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: because all the pems on the players. I grew up
Speaker 5: watching taking care that they women.
Speaker 3: But where did it end? Like what era did it end?
Speaker 3: Because even early Trees was singing his ass off to
Speaker 3: the women, expressing his love.
Speaker 4: I think it was when the RB singers started wanting
Speaker 4: to be rappers, and when a lot of these RB
Speaker 4: singers probably started having sex with.
Speaker 8: I think it's exactly what said, guys are all right,
Speaker 8: But I'm trying to go over there. What you say,
Speaker 8: say it again.
Speaker 6: That's what I think what it was, Say it again.
Speaker 4: I think when the ARMB singers started wanting to be
Speaker 4: rappers and a lot of the RMB singers started sleeping
Speaker 4: with the rapper, I don't even know what that means,
Speaker 4: not saying that, not saying that a man can't make
Speaker 4: songs about another man and it's still be a love song,
Speaker 4: just saying I think that they started loving on each
Speaker 4: other so much that they really was on some f
Speaker 4: the women stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I could have seen tang faces
Speaker 1: like the no.
Speaker 5: But I also think that you know, you know, with
Speaker 5: with the with the wanting to be with With hip
Speaker 5: hop's emergence, right, it became this really cool thing that
Speaker 5: was taking over everything the airwaves, radio, of the clubs
Speaker 5: and all of that. And so as R and B
Speaker 5: artists getting left behind, we're trying to figure out how
Speaker 5: to compete and stay relevant. And so you in the
Speaker 5: club and you you know, you're decently hot artist, but
Speaker 5: none of your songs are being played in here. And
Speaker 5: all the songs are about bottles, and they're about cars,
Speaker 5: and they're about money and it's about it's not about women,
Speaker 5: it's about bitches, and so it's like, shit, I got
Speaker 5: to incorporate some of this into my music if I'm
Speaker 5: going to survive in this new landscape. And so as
Speaker 5: we took that turn, or as R and B took
Speaker 5: that turn and never found its balance.
Speaker 6: I think it's the DJ fault.
Speaker 4: And I tell you why, because there used to be
Speaker 4: a time when we was growing up in the clubs,
Speaker 4: there would be a moment where the slow songs played.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, but regardless, y'all don't turn down there everybody be
Speaker 4: on too much drugs.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean there was a time, and usually
Speaker 3: it was at the end of the party. But now
Speaker 3: it comes back. Now I have a set in the
Speaker 3: middle of my party where I play R and B music.
Speaker 3: In this set, that's usually the biggest part of it
Speaker 3: because people are singing. They feel that that how it
Speaker 3: felt to be during that time.
Speaker 1: So it does go back. I would say that, but
Speaker 1: I just feel like it.
Speaker 3: Doesn't make it cool anymore. Somebody talks about singing in
Speaker 3: the rain anymore, or talking about the girl hurt their feelings.
Speaker 3: Like I was listening to the Boys the Men record
Speaker 3: and he was telling this girl cheated.
Speaker 1: He was like, it's okay, baby, I just want you back.
Speaker 8: I just didn't care.
Speaker 5: I just didn't.
Speaker 1: But if somebody did that now, they'd be like, look
Speaker 1: at this simp ass.
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. I listen, I still do it.
Speaker 5: I don't care.
Speaker 6: He still what simple?
Speaker 5: If that's what they want to call it, mad if
Speaker 5: I wasn't married, that's That's still.
Speaker 7: What I'm gonna be on, showing that she can be
Speaker 7: vulnerable as a man, like you know, you open it
Speaker 7: up and then I'm.
Speaker 8: Telling you I don't care. That's what I guess.
Speaker 7: I can speak for me, but I can speak for
Speaker 7: a lot of women too, Like that is attractive when
Speaker 7: a man is not only just thinking bottles bitches.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 7: No, it's you guys speak to my soul and music
Speaker 7: and some like a lot of older R and B
Speaker 7: does that for me.
Speaker 8: I don't hear today.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I don't subscribe to any of that stuff.
Speaker 5: I don't care. I don't care what they do or
Speaker 5: how the tables turn. I do the R and B
Speaker 5: that I love that I fell in love with. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, I watched my older uncles and everybody.
Speaker 5: I still follow their model and I and my job.
Speaker 5: I'm responsible for maintaining the line to where we treasure
Speaker 5: and we cater and we take care of our women.
Speaker 6: That's it.
Speaker 4: And the other thing too. I think the art of
Speaker 4: love making is gone. Like if you listen to you,
Speaker 4: if you listen to like that that you and Jay
Speaker 4: Valentine did and that song slow yeah, you have had
Speaker 4: to have made love in order to truly appreciate that record.
Speaker 4: You no, my face, that's my type of view.
Speaker 2: You have to be listen.
Speaker 5: Men, I want to say this, I want to put
Speaker 5: this out there, and I'm gonna say this. I'm gonna
Speaker 5: say this this way and then we'll and then we'll
Speaker 5: fix it up later. You have to fall back in
Speaker 5: love with pussy. You have to fall back in love
Speaker 5: with the idea. Now let's clean up of making love
Speaker 5: to a woman and and doing it at a high level.
Speaker 5: You have to you have to study a woman. You
Speaker 5: have to ask questions, You have to learn her body
Speaker 5: in order to do this thing the right way. Every
Speaker 5: key does not start. One key doesn't started your cards, right.
Speaker 5: You got to be curious about that thing, right, and
Speaker 5: outside of the curiosity, you have to have an infinity
Speaker 5: for it. You got to have a love for it.
Speaker 5: Enjoy sit it on my face. That's my type of Yes.
Speaker 6: Can I swim?
Speaker 2: Can I swim?
Speaker 8: Come on now about him?
Speaker 6: Don't do it to finish, do it because you love it.
Speaker 2: Listen, listen.
Speaker 5: My wife will tell you just eat it and beat it.
Speaker 2: Talk at a high level.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: I treat her like she knew.
Speaker 6: Talking about talk about it. That ain't no about your wife.
Speaker 5: Were facing each other, he was, I don't care when
Speaker 5: I'm you in the I don't care what no other.
Speaker 2: Niggas is doing.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: It's listen.
Speaker 5: When we used to be in the club with Jamie Fox,
Speaker 5: and Fox will look around in it sex way. It's
Speaker 5: too many dudes in here. Y'all gotta move. That's where
Speaker 5: I'm from. What are women at That's my.
Speaker 6: Focus And that's not a disc that's just the truth is.
Speaker 5: That's why I got all this nice ship on man
Speaker 5: R and B singers.
Speaker 6: I would assume their muse is women at all times.
Speaker 5: That's the point. That is the point to to have
Speaker 5: some type of spiritual or physical connection with a woman.
Speaker 8: So that's what we're getting in the vault. That's what
Speaker 8: we're getting.
Speaker 5: More of that, more of that feeling. The shout out
Speaker 5: to fab fabulous is when I say stand up brother, absolutely, man,
Speaker 5: I mean pulled up for me, not just on the song.
Speaker 5: And you know sometimes you know, when you're dealing with
Speaker 5: a an artist, you know, with the magnitude of fat like,
Speaker 5: it can take you a good four to six months
Speaker 5: to get that feature. He's moving, he's a dobby, he's
Speaker 5: moving around. This man said, I got you. As soon
Speaker 5: as I get back, I'll be back in the week
Speaker 5: and a half, two weeks. I got you not only
Speaker 5: knocked ou out? Said when's the video when we shoot cool?
Speaker 5: I'm on the way. Then said man, we're the assets,
Speaker 5: so I can promote like.
Speaker 6: Come from a different generation.
Speaker 5: But he's still fab you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 5: so your access to him, regardless of how cool you are,
Speaker 5: still limited, right because he's doing what he does and
Speaker 5: so for him to make himself available to me and
Speaker 5: for this record, man, which is really really started before
Speaker 5: we get started, and this racist it's in terms of
Speaker 5: climbing the charts, is my fastest record. Why do you
Speaker 5: think that is? Tempo? People have been people have been
Speaker 5: waiting for tempo from me. I got the slow in
Speaker 5: the mid, I got that, but now they don't let
Speaker 5: me get some tempo. Now you've then fucked up.
Speaker 1: So you did this on purpose? You wanted a tempo roight, Absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is calculated.
Speaker 5: This is on purpose. I needed the right one. My
Speaker 5: guy Dirk sent me this record. I said, you do
Speaker 5: not know what you have just done. You gave tank tempo.
Speaker 4: It's crazy that you're still trying to make new records
Speaker 4: at this point. I'm not saying that you can't have
Speaker 4: such a catalog. You really don't even have to if
Speaker 4: you don't want to.
Speaker 5: I do because I don't remember that last hit record.
Speaker 5: I don't remember it, don't I don't live in it.
Speaker 5: I don't live in that last outfit that I wore.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying every day is okay, what's next?
Speaker 5: How can I beat that? That was cool? Because I'm
Speaker 5: watching around me, you know what I'm saying. If need be,
Speaker 5: I'll drive up to CB's house, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: and let him play me a thousand songs. I'm like, shit,
Speaker 5: I got more work to do, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: I'll look at the charts and see who's on there.
Speaker 5: I'm not okay, I got work to do. Yeah, Like
Speaker 5: that's what drives me. Like it's so many new things
Speaker 5: have every day that I'm like this, Oh I got
Speaker 5: to compete with that. I got to fight with that.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, And it gets me up
Speaker 5: for game.
Speaker 3: Now, your health and how you are as far as
Speaker 3: not drinking it and all the things that you do.
Speaker 3: Is that from what place? Is that from a place
Speaker 3: of you seeing people your age doing it and you're like, damn,
Speaker 3: did it'll look as good? Or is it from a
Speaker 3: I just want to be healthy type of place?
Speaker 5: It's really healthy. I mean it's really like. I'm an
Speaker 5: athlete first, so for me, it's very important you know
Speaker 5: what goes into my body because what goes in is
Speaker 5: what comes out. You know what I'm saying. I've often,
Speaker 5: I've often been in the gym and my model to
Speaker 5: myself is what will Floyd do? What would Mayweather? Do?
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Because I've watched him buy
Speaker 5: thirty bottles. You know what I'm saying. I've watched the
Speaker 5: people around him rolling up smoke, and I've watched the
Speaker 5: people around him just indulge. I watched him do none
Speaker 5: of it and then grab his stuff out the back
Speaker 5: of the truck when we leave the club and run home.
Speaker 5: Mm hmm. I said, that's what a billion dollars looks like.
Speaker 5: I want that. So when me and my guy gains
Speaker 5: get in there, like, it's not a game. This part
Speaker 5: of what I do as it correlates to who I
Speaker 5: am as an artist. It's not why I do it.
Speaker 5: I would be doing this anyway, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like I want to be one hundred and fifty. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, still pulling up to the breakfast club? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 5: And I pray y'all are still here. But if y'all
Speaker 5: know I'm still.
Speaker 6: I think I got one hundred and one.
Speaker 5: You got one hundred and one ice Why can't we fifty?
Speaker 5: Why not?
Speaker 2: Why not?
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna put it. I'm not gonna say we can.
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna put a limitation on it. You know
Speaker 6: what I mean.
Speaker 5: It's all what you're putting in.
Speaker 6: Did what happened with Jamie scare you too?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Absolutely? And you know you just it just goes
Speaker 5: back to the idea of you just never know. You
Speaker 5: just never know, and it's not something you can predict,
Speaker 5: not something you can for his situation prevent, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean. Sometimes your body will just you know,
Speaker 5: the alert is is detrimental, right, your body telling you
Speaker 5: something is wrong. It's sometimes you know, the alarm is
Speaker 5: damned near fatal, you know what I mean. And that's
Speaker 5: just that's just life. And so yeah, it's scary. I
Speaker 5: mean just not just because he's you know, one of
Speaker 5: my best friends, but just like it could have easily
Speaker 5: been either one of us.
Speaker 4: You know what I find interesting about that situation too,
Speaker 4: because you talk about, you know, giving people their flowers
Speaker 4: while they're here, when it seemed like Jamie I don't
Speaker 4: want to say this but may not have made it
Speaker 4: like people didn't know everybody was giving him as flowers
Speaker 4: as soon as he made it.
Speaker 6: It's like all of that kind of just stuff.
Speaker 4: It's like when he was like, we were appreciate that
Speaker 4: Jamie's the greatest of all, he's one of the most
Speaker 4: talented human beings.
Speaker 6: Then soon as than you realize he's okay, it's just
Speaker 6: like all that stuf.
Speaker 5: We I mean, I want to say, our culture We
Speaker 5: have a thing about that, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 5: you know, somebody passes and then we you know, we
Speaker 5: running music up the charts, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: We have the thing about our legendary artists that we
Speaker 5: just don't preserve until it's too late, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. I was having this conversation yesterday about about
Speaker 5: Boys to Men. Right, Boys to Men is the highest
Speaker 5: selling group of all times, not the high selling black group,
Speaker 5: the high selling group really, And I actually remember, I
Speaker 5: actually remember a time where I was sending my sister
Speaker 5: to go see a Boys to Men concert at a
Speaker 5: venue that only hell four hundred people. How is that
Speaker 5: even possible that we let Boys to Men get to that.
Speaker 5: Now they're back now they know they's six seven figures
Speaker 5: to good now, right, But how is it that we
Speaker 5: let that happen? Whereas in the rolling Stones can pop
Speaker 5: out every summer.
Speaker 3: Say that they're not that good, and they should be
Speaker 3: that good if they're the number one telling they should
Speaker 3: be on some rolling stones to do the guarden three times,
Speaker 3: four times, five times in a row every year, you too.
Speaker 5: We can we can run down the list of those
Speaker 5: legendary artists from those other cultures that still get to
Speaker 5: run it up and we just throw our legends away
Speaker 5: so casually like the they didn't build this, that's that's
Speaker 5: we can't.
Speaker 4: Do that said the highest selling group and what category
Speaker 4: R and B? I mean R and B man, I
Speaker 4: don't know, boys men, I'm google that laboratory, but you're right,
Speaker 4: But even think about it, highest selling R and B
Speaker 4: group of all time.
Speaker 3: But even think about it like this, no disrespect to
Speaker 3: Michael Bibbins. Michael Bibbons should be one hundred millionaire. That's
Speaker 3: the case because he founded them and the records it's
Speaker 3: still moving.
Speaker 5: Well. I mean, that's that's business, right. And so you
Speaker 5: know I was in the Boys. I was in a
Speaker 5: new edition story, you know what I'm saying. So how
Speaker 5: all that business came about and what went on behind notes,
Speaker 5: that's something that's a different conversation. But ultimately, yes, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, the conversation should be, Michael Bivens
Speaker 5: pioneered X, Y and Z. Let's make sure that he
Speaker 5: has a job or a high level position curating the
Speaker 5: next generation of You know what I'm saying. When people
Speaker 5: come on my podcast, like I yell at all these people.
Speaker 5: I yell at Sean Garrett, I yell at you know,
Speaker 5: all these pioneers who come on on our problem, Like,
Speaker 5: what are you doing, Mike City, what are you doing?
Speaker 5: You know so much about this game, You've curated so
Speaker 5: many moments, so much music, have blessed so many artists.
Speaker 5: What are you doing? You know this? What are we
Speaker 5: doing to preserve our genre music? And so you know,
Speaker 5: I've challenged everybody and we're taking the challenge on too.
Speaker 5: R and B Money is taking on the challenge with
Speaker 5: R and B Everything, the Army Money.
Speaker 4: Podcast with Tanking J Bobbing on the Black Effect, I
Speaker 4: Heeart Radio podcast network. What is the meaning of the
Speaker 4: R and B Money like, like, why is it your podcast?
Speaker 4: Why is it the albums? What does that mean?
Speaker 6: What does that sound brand mean? R and B Money?
Speaker 5: People love money. People love the idea that something makes
Speaker 5: money that is successful and and and and that is
Speaker 5: just attractive to people. The word money, right, you can't
Speaker 5: get past it, Like as soon as you say, as
Speaker 5: soon as you hurt young money like young, as soon
Speaker 5: as you heard cash money, they money isn't all cash.
Speaker 2: You just love money.
Speaker 5: And so for me it's like associating R and B
Speaker 5: with success. We could we could be deep and put
Speaker 5: some other nuances to it. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: A glamorous R and B or you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: or top shelf R and B. No, for simple people,
Speaker 5: R and B money money, This is how we live.
Speaker 5: And all this, you see, came from R and B.
Speaker 4: That makes sense when I listen to a song like
Speaker 4: want of Love is love when it comes.
Speaker 6: To R and B to sound or the feeling, is
Speaker 6: its simply sexual?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, it can't be because love is
Speaker 5: not Love is. Love is not those things like we say,
Speaker 5: want to make love like that? It sounds good, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. That's just the physical aspect of it.
Speaker 5: But love is the choice you make about somebody every day.
Speaker 5: It's not an actual feeling. Love is a choice that
Speaker 5: you have to make every day. So I'm rocking with
Speaker 5: you right, good or bad or ugly. Like when we
Speaker 5: were just talking about when he said, I know you
Speaker 5: were seeing that other fella, that's part of it. I
Speaker 5: didn't marry into perfection. I'm married under the idea that
Speaker 5: hey man, whatever it is, we just gonna rock through it.
Speaker 5: I chose you to walk through life with and that
Speaker 5: means whatever comes with.
Speaker 6: That love got to be a feeling though, right.
Speaker 5: No, that's euphoria.
Speaker 6: Really yeah, break that down for me. Take I ain't
Speaker 6: get there yet.
Speaker 5: Love is a choice. It's a choice. Right, as we
Speaker 5: go back, Let's let's say you're Christian. Let's say you're you're,
Speaker 5: You're you're you know, you're a devout Christian, you and
Speaker 5: you're into the Bible. The choice that was made was
Speaker 5: that Jesus said, I'm going to die for you. God
Speaker 5: so loved the world that he sent. It wasn't a feeling.
Speaker 5: He set something in motion, because that's how you show
Speaker 5: the love I'm going to send my son and then
Speaker 5: he's going to die. Another choice that he made. He
Speaker 5: didn't have to die. He could have, he could have
Speaker 5: tore that whole thing down.
Speaker 4: But you only make that choice for things that you
Speaker 4: have to have feelings for, right, Like I don't wake
Speaker 4: up every day and choose to love something that I
Speaker 4: don't have any love for.
Speaker 5: It's a commitment. It's a commitment to your purpose. Right.
Speaker 5: You get good feelings from it, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Because that's that's just you being that's just you being
Speaker 5: connected to the universe. Things feel good, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. And when you're on a certain path that
Speaker 5: you're connected to, it feels even better because it's connected
Speaker 5: to your purpose or connected to you know, like when
Speaker 5: you when you have deja vu and you're like, I
Speaker 5: feel like I've been here before. I feel like I'm.
Speaker 2: Supposed to be here.
Speaker 5: You feel that, right, But that's just that's just feelings.
Speaker 5: Love is a choice. I have to decide how I
Speaker 5: express that choice, and we just we just call it love.
Speaker 6: War the choice to the war, the choice. You got
Speaker 6: a song on the new album called War.
Speaker 4: It made me say, if you know your behavior is
Speaker 4: going to cause war, why choose it?
Speaker 5: Think? Sometimes you can't help yourself. You cannot help yourself.
Speaker 5: You all you We are not perfect people, we're not.
Speaker 6: But you to be that ten thousand in the club.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you can't help yourself. You ain't never been in
Speaker 5: the club. And it just in the moment just got
Speaker 5: good to you. I just feel like we need three
Speaker 5: more bottles. We need three more bottles, and we need
Speaker 5: five more thousand and ones. No I'm not saying right now,
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, when you started really getting that money,
Speaker 5: what ye like when you like, when you in the
Speaker 5: strip club and you're in a.
Speaker 1: Zone, you're talking to somebody that picks up singles off
Speaker 1: the floor.
Speaker 6: Though that was back in the day. Relaxed myself.
Speaker 5: When you're in the strip club and you get in
Speaker 5: a zone, just bring me more ones. I'll figure it
Speaker 5: out after this. Remember, you could manipulate the uh uh
Speaker 5: the where you gonna get the money from the machine?
Speaker 5: Remember you could manipulate the atm on the weekends. A
Speaker 5: lot of people too young for that, you remember you could?
Speaker 5: You could. You could go to different ATMs and grab
Speaker 5: money out based on the balance that you had on Friday.
Speaker 5: On Friday, and they would catch it until Monday, you'd
Speaker 5: be overdrawn, like like fifteen Jesus. But I had to
Speaker 5: get to the strip club. They needed to see.
Speaker 6: Me, They needed to see see.
Speaker 5: And I couldn't come in empty hand.
Speaker 1: You spent at the strip club? How much you think
Speaker 1: you spent that club?
Speaker 5: I don't know, No, I mean in the most and
Speaker 5: one night maybe not, something like maybe like a little
Speaker 5: forty fifty nothing crazy? Yeah, what's wrong with that?
Speaker 6: That's a lot of money. Fifty thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: A script club in relation to what to what you make.
Speaker 6: Someone who only said, no, I'm acting my wage. I
Speaker 6: don't know about y'all.
Speaker 5: Sometimes you save up for that moment. I've seen real
Speaker 5: money being spent in the club, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I've been with BMF with real money. That fifty thousand
Speaker 5: I'm talking about it nothing. They were throwing all hundreds
Speaker 5: when I walked in with him, and and like in
Speaker 5: in Charlemagne fashion, I had my shirt out. I need
Speaker 5: to catch some of this. I'm not gonna dance, but
Speaker 5: all this can't hit the floor like I've seen it.
Speaker 6: What the script clubs do? V? R and B singers like?
Speaker 4: We know why rappers go to the script club, like,
Speaker 4: you know, they want to get their music play.
Speaker 5: Because at the time our music was being played in there,
Speaker 5: so you forget my music is being played in the
Speaker 5: strip clubs. Yeah, you know, I hold strip clubs. They
Speaker 5: called me and they played, they played when we they
Speaker 5: played fucking with me, they played, Yeah, I got I
Speaker 5: got ship.
Speaker 8: You do listen home when you got a song when.
Speaker 5: You dance, I got I got shipped. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm Say'm saying, and so when they danced to my
Speaker 5: music that I I have to reward them for that.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. I have to take care
Speaker 5: of them for that.
Speaker 1: And the Strip club for free. The money that you
Speaker 1: make at strip club you get back and just.
Speaker 6: Give it back like um to give program.
Speaker 5: I remember what I host. I was the first artist
Speaker 5: to host King of Diamonds. And I remember when I
Speaker 5: host the King of Diamonds. I think I think I
Speaker 5: might have got like fifteen to twenty thousand for it,
Speaker 5: and and and I foolishly got all that in once.
Speaker 5: M But I had a time. I went back, played basketball,
Speaker 5: had some food. I looked at one time I got
Speaker 5: Aaron Corsar, he was eating steak basketball King of Diamonds.
Speaker 1: Bast leave.
Speaker 5: They had to they had to, They had to soap,
Speaker 5: they had to the sudge, get in a pool like
Speaker 5: I left, like one time seven o'clock in the morning. Wow,
Speaker 5: Well I was walking out the strip, was dressed, walk
Speaker 5: out together.
Speaker 1: That was before you was married though, No.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well but war is war is just a depiction
Speaker 5: of that. You know what I'm saying, This means war. Look,
Speaker 5: I laid him walking in I'm some random club drinking
Speaker 5: with my friends.
Speaker 1: What does your wife said? When when she heard these stories.
Speaker 5: She'd be she's indifferent, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 5: you know, she don't like strip clubs at all, and
Speaker 5: she doesn't go with you no, And I'd be like, babe,
Speaker 5: you should go with me. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: We had this rule where I wouldn't go, and then
Speaker 5: I just started breaking the rules and it was like, look,
Speaker 5: I'm going grown ass man where I can't go. But
Speaker 5: you know it was because I would go in there
Speaker 5: and I would kind of be irresponsible, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: If you spend in fifty thousands, she probably.
Speaker 5: Like, no, it's that And so there's okay, if you're
Speaker 5: gonna go, you're gonna have a good time, Like, don't forget,
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, family, let's just let's just you know,
Speaker 5: so damn, how.
Speaker 4: Good of a time are you having? You forget you
Speaker 4: have a family. How much of a time you must
Speaker 4: be having a strip club family?
Speaker 5: If she looking at you know, looking at the AMX,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, And then there's just just
Speaker 5: a tab for twelve thousand dollars, Like what are we doing?
Speaker 5: What what are we doing?
Speaker 8: Come on now, you need a white thoat.
Speaker 5: You need it. You need an accountability system. I absolutely
Speaker 5: need that. So that's just that's just kind of our thing.
Speaker 5: But you know, in this song, I just wanted to
Speaker 5: make sure to tell that story because every man goes
Speaker 5: through this, you know what I'm saying, where they just
Speaker 5: want to do what they want to do. They want
Speaker 5: to do their thing. I see you calling me, but
Speaker 5: you I'm rocking right now, and so you know it's
Speaker 5: it's it's it's like you said, it's starting a war.
Speaker 5: You know you're starting a war, but you're like, you know,
Speaker 5: I'll fight that battle when I get home. It is
Speaker 5: what it is.
Speaker 6: It almost got a country field to it.
Speaker 5: It's very country is that it's a very no I
Speaker 5: did this record three years ago, Wow, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: y'all finally caught up. Cool. I'll drop it. My guys,
Speaker 5: Javon Co Captains. They produced it, and when they send
Speaker 5: it to me, I was like, bro, this is so different.
Speaker 5: And when I when I wrote it, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 5: let me tell this story because country is Country is
Speaker 5: still a good place where you can tell those stories.
Speaker 5: The best, the best for you, and so that's that's
Speaker 5: where I came from. But I've been there, everybody just now,
Speaker 5: you know, trying to be country, I've been there.
Speaker 7: A lot of these songs are a lot of these
Speaker 7: songs songs that you have been done. I mean, is
Speaker 7: that why it's called the vault because you think of
Speaker 7: a vault and you're like, this is what I had
Speaker 7: been had.
Speaker 5: That one is the only one that I had already.
Speaker 5: What's up them? Come inside? Dang? You know all about
Speaker 5: that that herd a Special Place lived. Yeah, that was
Speaker 5: the Kevin Hart damn and that record when and I
Speaker 5: had that record. But I did that record at uh
Speaker 5: at the Loft camp for Puff for did he in
Speaker 5: his in his album? And when he was going through records,
Speaker 5: this this song didn't make the cut, and you know,
Speaker 5: and I called and I called him. I was like, bro,
Speaker 5: because he was holding all the records and everything was
Speaker 5: done at the camp. He's mine. I paid for the
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. I paid for the camp
Speaker 5: and rightfully, so he can do that. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. Whoever paid for that studio term and all that.
Speaker 1: Day camp work, he paid you all the right records
Speaker 1: and he just kept.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean he he created, he created the atmosphere,
Speaker 5: so about the about the studio, set up, the tents,
Speaker 5: like he just did a whole thing. Chef's bar, like
Speaker 5: this was in La fantastic album. That album was a
Speaker 5: great album album, great album, you know. So I wasn't mad.
Speaker 5: I was like, it's some great music on there. I'm
Speaker 5: not mad. JOSSI did her thing on there. It's like
Speaker 5: a crazy album. But you know a lot of times
Speaker 5: when when when artists have these records that you know,
Speaker 5: they hold them until until they need them, they'll use
Speaker 5: them for the next project or whatever. And and I
Speaker 5: hit him, I was like, Dad, I need that record, man,
Speaker 5: can you please please let me get that record? The Playboy?
Speaker 5: I got you king you good man run with it.
Speaker 5: And that was that was love on his part, man,
Speaker 5: because most artists, you know, they don't do that. I
Speaker 5: don't write anyone. Yeah, I mean I submitted a lot,
Speaker 5: I did a lot of work. But for me, like
Speaker 5: it was, I don't really go to camps. You know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. I don't go to the whole you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. Thousand producers, thousand writers. But you know,
Speaker 5: when he hit me, he was like, Bro, you're the
Speaker 5: You're you're the best at it, and I just need you.
Speaker 5: I need you in the building. I need people to
Speaker 5: see that you're here, because that's gonna make people thank here.
Speaker 5: I gotta go hard, I gotta I gotta go crazy,
Speaker 5: And so that was I was there for the energy,
Speaker 5: but also to participate work with you know, Cardiac who's
Speaker 5: super dope, Eric Bellinger, all those guys was up there.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Like the room, I mean
Speaker 5: when I say it was crazy, it was crazy. Like
Speaker 5: the people that came that showed up the Diddy for
Speaker 5: that camp. It was crazy. It was crazy. So I
Speaker 5: was just I was just happy they'd let me walk
Speaker 5: walk with that record about to go on.
Speaker 8: With another og Carl Thomas.
Speaker 4: Carl Thomas one of the greatest R and B albums
Speaker 4: of all time, not even close.
Speaker 5: And people I've seen people ask me, you know, people
Speaker 5: ask me why you know, why you choose Carl Thomas,
Speaker 5: why you choose Kerry Hillson. I'm like, you don't hear it.
Speaker 4: Emotion was literally one of the greatest RMB albums, Like
Speaker 4: you don't you don't top the bottom, Love Making music.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, Like when we down at
Speaker 5: them do ops with my girl are down and down
Speaker 5: in uh in Miami, and then Carl Thomas records, come on,
Speaker 5: it's a thing. Absolute shit really happens. Play some of
Speaker 5: them carry Hillson records like things happen. Yeah, I say,
Speaker 5: first of all, I want to go into with my friends.
Speaker 5: I want to go in toward people I like. But
Speaker 5: then too, I want to I want to be out
Speaker 5: there is it's an R and B money tour. I
Speaker 5: want the catalog to be expensive. Some expensive catalogs, you know,
Speaker 5: carry got hot one hundreds. Carl Thomas has Timeless R
Speaker 5: and B.
Speaker 8: I'm parties today right now with Summer Rain.
Speaker 7: They play that at the top, in the middle of
Speaker 7: the party, at the end like they bring what And
Speaker 7: I grabbed him like I don't care where I'm at,
Speaker 7: no karaoke even playing.
Speaker 5: Let me give me a little come on, you gotta
Speaker 5: play for that Charlamagne has given us. He's blessed us.
Speaker 8: With his storming. Come on outside when she keeps me home?
Speaker 8: That's my song.
Speaker 2: That was That was.
Speaker 4: My wife and college rocking with car Time, Carl Thomas
Speaker 4: emotional and Joe my name is Joe.
Speaker 5: I gotta I gotta do a tour with Joe too. Yeah, Man,
Speaker 5: the tour and a song.
Speaker 6: I love that.
Speaker 5: People have been wanting that for quite some time. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, I get you know, Joe likes
Speaker 5: to hide until it's time. You know what I'm saying, Like, well,
Speaker 5: you know, I'll I'll be out playboy. You know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. I'm a pop out of.
Speaker 6: You mentioned everybody with TGT. I ain't no boy, no
Speaker 6: time reason genuine was up with debt. Yeah, but you
Speaker 6: was in the studio when I saw you in the
Speaker 6: studio working on My Beautiful Pain.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think you know, I think we we're
Speaker 5: at a great place, man, We're at a great place
Speaker 5: where I think now we all everybody collectively sees the
Speaker 5: value in what we are and what we created. And
Speaker 5: it's again, it's this resurgence of just that feeling of
Speaker 5: R and B. And so you got you got two
Speaker 5: guys from the nineties who got classicalogs. You got me
Speaker 5: coming in from the two thousands, who came came up
Speaker 5: under these guys, and and people are hungry and thirsty
Speaker 5: for that. And so you're going to see h You're
Speaker 5: going to see some T G T you know. Fortunately,
Speaker 5: thank god, you're gonna get that album. No, I don't
Speaker 5: know if we have an album, but we do have
Speaker 5: We do have a couple of moments. Yeah, that that
Speaker 5: we're lining up that are gonna be very special. So
Speaker 5: that's all. That's all I can really really say about that.
Speaker 6: And I saw you the other night.
Speaker 4: Man, I forgot don't know where y'all was at the
Speaker 4: Flavor flav was singing. He was what was so I
Speaker 4: forgot what he was singing?
Speaker 5: Was it we were honoring, they were honoring. I don't
Speaker 5: want to get this wrong to be I don't remember
Speaker 5: be there. I can't, I don't I don't want to
Speaker 5: mess up the name of the organization. Seana hit me.
Speaker 5: It was like, we're honoring Jimmy, jam and Terry Lewis
Speaker 5: and we need you to do what you do. And
Speaker 5: I was like, cool, I'm in. You say, Jimmy, Jaime
Speaker 5: and Terry Lewis, I'm in. I don't. I don't care
Speaker 5: what it is. And so we're honoring them and and
Speaker 5: and Babyface is there, and you know, I don't want
Speaker 5: to pressure baby Face to sing, but he's there, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, Babyface, if you want to sing, you can,
Speaker 5: you don't have to. And they started playing one of
Speaker 5: his songs and we were singing in faces like na, na,
Speaker 5: let me let me handle that. He started singing, just
Speaker 5: Slaver Flavs just came out of nowhere and just started
Speaker 5: and just started singing.
Speaker 6: You look surprised that he could hold a note.
Speaker 5: No, if that wasn't surprise, it was just like that.
Speaker 6: Think about it, like, why did you take the mic
Speaker 6: from Babyface to give it a flavor?
Speaker 5: My thing is Babyface is singing all right, and and
Speaker 5: Flavor Flame has the gall and audacity to take the
Speaker 5: micro to run up and started singing against the baby Face.
Speaker 6: Why didn't you stop it? That's why the game need referees.
Speaker 6: You're supposed to stop that.
Speaker 5: Right then you're big enough to stopping pos at that moment, right,
Speaker 5: It only goes one way. It only looks like disrespect
Speaker 5: in front of that many people. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: Like now it's now it's flavor Flake. He is Flavor Flake.
Speaker 5: Let's not discredit him.
Speaker 6: He is who he is.
Speaker 5: And then I run up on him saying, nigga, baby
Speaker 5: Face singing, hold on right now, nigga, hold on, hold on?
Speaker 6: Didn't he just respect baby facing away?
Speaker 5: Baby Face has to fight that battle. Listen, and don't
Speaker 5: think that if baby Face felt the way, he wouldn't
Speaker 5: have handled it. Babyfaces, listen. The songs are nice and
Speaker 5: soft and meek. Baby Face is not. He's a nice guy,
Speaker 5: but he's nobody sucking. I promise you if he felt
Speaker 5: the way, and he would have and I was kind
Speaker 5: of following his lead, the baby Face would have looked
Speaker 5: like he wasn't feeling it, then we would have handled
Speaker 5: that way. But he was. It was all in good fun.
Speaker 5: R and B.
Speaker 6: Money.
Speaker 1: The vault is out vault again. The vault is out
Speaker 1: right now, and we appreciate you for joining six yes, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So what's that right now? Right right now? Okay,
Speaker 5: are you gonna what do you? What are you gonna
Speaker 5: do with this music?
Speaker 8: You already know what I'm doing.
Speaker 7: I got I can't ain't too much I can do
Speaker 7: right now because I can't get pregnant.
Speaker 8: Twice and one.
Speaker 5: You know how far along are you?
Speaker 8: Five months? I'm about to be six five months.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a good time.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm still I'm still money a good time. I'm
Speaker 8: still moving, toodie.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. My wife is pregnant.
Speaker 6: Some of the best, best time, some of the best crazy.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, it's something extra in there.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 6: Can I swim in your ocean?
Speaker 8: That's right. I know people I put on money. It's
Speaker 8: a skip.
Speaker 2: It's like an ointment.
Speaker 3: All right, take about right now, it's take It's the
Speaker 3: Breakfast Club.
Speaker 1: Good morning
Speaker 5: In the morning at the Breakfast Club.