Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to Fantasy Pros. This is the Fantasy
Speaker 1: Football Podcast. It is me Joey P joe P Zapia,
Speaker 1: and the NFL Draft is in the rear view mirror. However,
Speaker 1: the NFL season is right in front of the windshield,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna help you prepare for that long drive
Speaker 1: towards twenty twenty four. To help me, of course, in
Speaker 1: this car, I'm gonna put them in the back seat
Speaker 1: with the child locks on, especially on the windows. It's
Speaker 1: de Bro Derek Brown, the King of Bros. And of
Speaker 1: course our college football expert over from Betting Pros, the
Speaker 1: man behind the thor five hundred, Thorn Eistrom, And we
Speaker 1: are gonna do the draft grades for the AFC here
Speaker 1: today and for the NFC as well. And the thing is,
Speaker 1: everybody's doing their draft grades. However, the difference here is
Speaker 1: thorn Eistram, because Thorn Eistram, the Minnesota mad Man, has
Speaker 1: a little bit extra behind his draft grade. So let's
Speaker 1: talk about why what we're gonna do today is a
Speaker 1: little bit different from your perspective because you've got a
Speaker 1: little fancy algorithm working here. But I think the people
Speaker 1: need to know about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every year when I do my draft grades, it's
Speaker 2: right after when the draft gets done on Saturday, I
Speaker 2: run ROI on them. You know, with the five hundred board,
Speaker 2: the draft slots, you have the trade chart, and I
Speaker 2: have a modified trade chart with mine, so you know,
Speaker 2: every slot has a point total that is put on it.
Speaker 2: And then you do the same thing with the five
Speaker 2: hundred board, so every prospect on that they get assigned
Speaker 2: a point total and then you end up seeing, you know,
Speaker 2: with the team what value they got on every single pick.
Speaker 2: And then you just run the numbers after the draft happens,
Speaker 2: and you end up seeing what ROI every team got
Speaker 2: on their class. And that's basically how I end up
Speaker 2: doing the grades, doing it on a bell curve. I
Speaker 2: do give credit for, of course hitting team needs in addition,
Speaker 2: and then things like draft day trades what you got
Speaker 2: in the value on that. So those are a couple
Speaker 2: of extra factors that are added to that, but the
Speaker 2: biggest weight on that is ROI that you got in
Speaker 2: your slots.
Speaker 1: Now, the eye test matters too, and from a fantasy perspective,
Speaker 1: debro is going to give us his draft raids based
Speaker 1: off of those. So let's dive into it. Let's just
Speaker 1: jump in with two feet here and let's start alphabetically
Speaker 1: with the AFC and let's begin with the Baltimore Ravens here. Now,
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens historically a team that always makes the
Speaker 1: most of what they're given, and usually they are picking
Speaker 1: late in most rounds. But they went and addressed to
Speaker 1: need a corner. They went ahead and got some pieces
Speaker 1: there on the edge on the offensive line as well.
Speaker 1: So thor what does the algorithm say about the grade
Speaker 1: when it comes to the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 2: I give the Ravens a B minus for what they
Speaker 2: did over the weekend. They went with Nate Wiggins in
Speaker 2: the first round. That was their most interesting decision of
Speaker 2: what they did because it was a binary thing. The
Speaker 2: primary needs that they had heading in it was cornerback
Speaker 2: and offensive tackle. And you had that crazy scenario in
Speaker 2: the first round where all the offensive tackles were getting
Speaker 2: sucked up the board, and the decision for the Ravens
Speaker 2: there it was you had Tyler Geiden getting taken one
Speaker 2: slot above them. So that's why they end up taking
Speaker 2: Nate Wiggins in the thirtieth slot. So I was fine
Speaker 2: with that selection then, so you defer off offensive tackle
Speaker 2: in the first round. Then in the second round they
Speaker 2: end up taking Roger rosen Garten with a sixty second pick.
Speaker 2: I think I would have taken Kingsley Sua Mattea who
Speaker 2: ends up going one pick after rosen Garten, a minor
Speaker 2: net pick, but certainly that would have been my preference.
Speaker 2: The rest of their picks were fine. You know, they
Speaker 2: end up getting teses Walker a little bit after that.
Speaker 2: Deebro and I were a little bit lower on tes Walker.
Speaker 2: Turns out the NFL was as well. But the Ravens
Speaker 2: got him basically right around where he was on my board,
Speaker 2: the one hundred and thirteen slot. They got him one
Speaker 2: hundred and nineteenth. I love the value they got on TJ.
Speaker 2: Tampa at one hundred and thirtieth. The NFL was punitive
Speaker 2: to the Iowa state cornerback. He was fiftieth on my board,
Speaker 2: but they ended up knocking him down because of the testing.
Speaker 2: But a very good guy on his collegiate tape there
Speaker 2: in the Big twelve. But overall, I give the Ravens
Speaker 2: a B minus for their effort.
Speaker 1: De bro Astore mentioned not a very heavy fantasy draft here.
Speaker 1: They did draft avontees Walker later on. There also Rashid Ali,
Speaker 1: the running back from Marshall. So anything from fantasy perspective here,
Speaker 1: you can grade at however you want here overall, obviously
Speaker 1: from a football standpoint, it does matter what you do
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. We know that, and from the
Speaker 1: defensive aspect too. But what do you give the Ravens
Speaker 1: here from twenty twenty four draft grade?
Speaker 3: It's funny Thor and I are handholding. I gave him
Speaker 3: a B minus two. I liked some of the early
Speaker 3: picks and things like that. I love Thor's mention of
Speaker 3: you know, the way that the offensive line went. But
Speaker 3: for me looking at the skill needs and just from
Speaker 3: a fantasy perspective, man, I mean they still have some
Speaker 3: needs on the offensive line, Like I still have worries
Speaker 3: about this offensive line, considering the right side. They lost
Speaker 3: both these guys. Yes, they address tackle, but they still
Speaker 3: have big guard needs. Tes Walker in the fourth why
Speaker 3: I don't disagree with the value. It's just an uninspiring pick.
Speaker 3: I mean, we know what he's going to be in
Speaker 3: the NFL. He's raw, he's a field stretcher. He's a
Speaker 3: player that I'm going to be there's just other better
Speaker 3: players on the board in the fourth round, which I
Speaker 3: already updated my rookie ranks and Dynasty ranks overall on
Speaker 3: fantasypros dot Com already, so hope people are checking those out.
Speaker 3: But tes Walker is a player I'll be avoiding in
Speaker 3: Dynasty rookie drafts. If anything, this just makes it more
Speaker 3: clear cut that this passing offense is gonna run, especially
Speaker 3: underneath with Andrews and Flowers leaning the way, and to
Speaker 3: be honest, obj out the door. Tes Walker's all they
Speaker 3: brought in. If you have any hope at all for
Speaker 3: Rashad Bateman, this gives you a little bit of sliver
Speaker 3: of hope. I can't say that I'm there anymore, but
Speaker 3: I got to mention it.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm glad you're finally catching up to me. I
Speaker 1: was gone earlier last year. I pulled that car away
Speaker 1: that Uber's left the station Buffalo Bills. Obviously they had
Speaker 1: to need a wide receiver. Ironically or oddly enough, they
Speaker 1: kind of moved out of that first round into the
Speaker 1: second to address it with Keyon Coleman thor did they,
Speaker 1: in your opinion, come away with what they needed, because
Speaker 1: the rest of this draft year. From the Bill's perspective, again,
Speaker 1: they needed safety help, they needed to replace Poyer. Did
Speaker 1: they do enough replacing the pieces that have been Jettis
Speaker 1: and buy them in the offseason.
Speaker 2: I think they did a good job of hitting their needs.
Speaker 2: And the other thing I'll give them is they did
Speaker 2: show discretion, like you mentioned in trading down a couple
Speaker 2: of times, and then they they did take Coleman at
Speaker 2: the top of the second there, and they they took
Speaker 2: advantage of Disco Dan Morgan and his bizarre decision to
Speaker 2: give them free draft equity to swap slots there. And
Speaker 2: we'll talk about that more when we hit the Carolina
Speaker 2: Panthers and our NFC one, because I have more thoughts
Speaker 2: on that. But the Bills profited from free draft equity
Speaker 2: tossed their way in that one. But just you know,
Speaker 2: as far as the Bills go in the decisions they
Speaker 2: made in the slots that they picked in Coleman, you know,
Speaker 2: again the discretion where you get the draft equity and
Speaker 2: then moved down. You know, I thought that that was
Speaker 2: good and he certainly does feel a need and he's
Speaker 2: a good fit for Allen in terms of the Keon
Speaker 2: Coleman's game getting downfield. He's the good contested catch guy
Speaker 2: former basketball player for to Mizzo Keon, Coleman's best thing
Speaker 2: is getting up in the air and jumping higher than you,
Speaker 2: and then he's got the ball skills. He's not going
Speaker 2: to separate from anyone though in the intermedia area, not
Speaker 2: going to give you much utility there. I had him
Speaker 2: forty six on my board. It's possible you could have
Speaker 2: moved down just a little bit lower to get him.
Speaker 2: There was a couple other receivers on the board I
Speaker 2: liked just a little bit more than him. I did
Speaker 2: like the cole Bishop pick. It was their selections later on,
Speaker 2: where by and large I disagreed with most of them.
Speaker 2: I did like a couple of them, Javon Sullivan, for instance,
Speaker 2: later on the Troy edge rusher, who was prolific with
Speaker 2: his sack numbers, long arms, but undersize Outside of that,
Speaker 2: very relentless. He's a kid that I like. But some
Speaker 2: of the other picks. I just was not there with
Speaker 2: Brandon Bean this year like I generally am. So that's
Speaker 2: why I ended up giving the Bills a C minus
Speaker 2: this year.
Speaker 1: C minus from Thor Debro again there were some wide
Speaker 1: receivers on the board that we all discussed that night,
Speaker 1: and if you missed it, you can go back and
Speaker 1: watch our live stream and our live reactions. See the
Speaker 1: draft is up there on the YouTube channel. But Debro,
Speaker 1: we were sort of I get underwhelmed a little bit.
Speaker 1: Is that how the grade ended up as well?
Speaker 3: For you? Yeah, I bounced between giving them a S.
Speaker 3: I did give them a C minus, but I bounced
Speaker 3: between a C minus and a D plus. I thought
Speaker 3: their draft was wretched if you look at now. They
Speaker 3: did fill needs with wide receiver and safety net. But
Speaker 3: for me, I'm not a high on Keon Coleman, which
Speaker 3: I mean won't surprise anybody if you've been listening to
Speaker 3: the NFL Draft Show and Fantasy Pros. But Keon Coleman, Yes,
Speaker 3: they filled a need, but I look at this as
Speaker 3: Buffalo is sending signal that this is going to be
Speaker 3: not a force. All the targets to Keon Coleman's I
Speaker 3: think he's going to be criminally overdrafted in dynasty rookie drafts.
Speaker 3: I've got him as a late second, early third pick
Speaker 3: in my updated rankings, and really there's nothing I mean,
Speaker 3: tell me if this gets you excited, Joe. Over the
Speaker 3: last two years, Keon Coleman yards per route run, he
Speaker 3: has ranked one hundred and seventy fifth and one hundred
Speaker 3: and seventh PFF receiving grade one hundred and forty eighth
Speaker 3: and seventy ninth. There's not a lot to get really
Speaker 3: excited outside of people to talk about the testing or
Speaker 3: highlight real stuff. So Keyon Coleman. I'm not in on it, man.
Speaker 3: I thought they could have gone another direction, selected a
Speaker 3: different and a better wide receiver where they went, and
Speaker 3: if you keep moving on the board, I think this
Speaker 3: just makes Dalton kin Kay that much more of a
Speaker 3: smash this year. I think he's gonna lead the Buffalo
Speaker 3: bills and targets and if you look after Week six
Speaker 3: last season amongst sixty two qualifying tight ends eighth and
Speaker 3: target chair tenth and targets per route run twelfth in
Speaker 3: yards per route run, He's gonna absolutely crush this season.
Speaker 3: And the fourth round selection of Ray Davis will I
Speaker 3: do not hate Ray Davis as a player, and I've
Speaker 3: already seen a lot of takes out on social media,
Speaker 3: but oh, Ray Davis had receiving touchdowns in college and
Speaker 3: Ray Davis is coming for the past game work, James
Speaker 3: Cook and stuff. Do you realize that James Cook like
Speaker 3: one of his best skill sets coming out of college
Speaker 3: and what we've seen in the NFL is as a receiver.
Speaker 3: So people are getting out over their skis with all
Speaker 3: this rookie fomo and they're you know, two weeks ago
Speaker 3: is like I hate this rookie running back class, and
Speaker 3: now they're like, all fourth round Ray Davis, He's coming
Speaker 3: for the job of James Cook. I'm not there, having
Speaker 3: been there, not going to be there. James Cook after
Speaker 3: last year, after Week ten, was tenth in targets per
Speaker 3: route run, fourth and receiving yards per game, and second
Speaker 3: in yards per out run amongst all running backs. So
Speaker 3: I'm not that worried about Ray Davis, especially as much
Speaker 3: as the consensus, but definitely not in love with the
Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills draft.
Speaker 1: All right, Championships are built on the lines, typically speaking,
Speaker 1: and the Cincinnati Bengals started their draft that way. It's
Speaker 1: a good offensive tackle, the defensive tankle Chris Jenkins there.
Speaker 1: Then they did address again the elephant the room, which
Speaker 1: is what's going on with t Higgins. So we're gonna
Speaker 1: draft another wide receiver, so thor we start to look
Speaker 1: back at the dust settling from the Cincinnati Bengals. How
Speaker 1: did they make out in terms of what they did
Speaker 1: with their draft equity?
Speaker 2: This is a draft class that I gave a C
Speaker 2: two where I am guaranteeing that I'm going to be wrong.
Speaker 2: In a decade. This draft class is either going to
Speaker 2: be an A or it is going to be an F.
Speaker 2: And the reason for that is what the Bengals did
Speaker 2: was swing from the heels in their slide and they
Speaker 2: shot for the moon and so they went boom or
Speaker 2: bust in for you know, And that's what they did.
Speaker 2: So what I did in my grading and my methodology,
Speaker 2: you I mean, I have to split the middle on
Speaker 2: this thing in terms of grading it. That's why they
Speaker 2: got to see. But that ain't how this thing is
Speaker 2: going to end. You know, we're just split in the
Speaker 2: middle and the way we're judging it in this moment.
Speaker 2: But you know, they started out with this thing. Set
Speaker 2: the tone early with the Marius Mims. Marius Mims has
Speaker 2: all the talent in the world. Kid who's six foot eight,
Speaker 2: three hundred and forty pounds ninety six percentile athlete, and
Speaker 2: we have seen all the flashes at Georgia, but he
Speaker 2: started only eight games. He has already had two lower
Speaker 2: body injuries, and his very short time there will he
Speaker 2: hold up at the NFL level with those lower body
Speaker 2: injuries in that enormous frame, that's you know what we're
Speaker 2: going to have to see on that. I do trust
Speaker 2: the physical ability with him. He has played well against
Speaker 2: top competition in that brief time, but my bigger concern
Speaker 2: is the is the lower body just because we haven't
Speaker 2: seen the sample size. We've already seen those couple injuries.
Speaker 2: The Chris Jenkins pick in the second round, that was
Speaker 2: the one higher floor pick they did. His father, obviously
Speaker 2: is the NFL stud and Chris Jenkins was a multi
Speaker 2: year starter on the championship teams at Michigan well coached.
Speaker 2: Was a Feltman, freaklisser, et cetera. But then you know
Speaker 2: they hit it down the fairway one time with the
Speaker 2: safer pick and then it went right back to shooting
Speaker 2: the moon. Jermaine Burton was the all time shoot the
Speaker 2: moon pick at receiver. Deebro and I we and especially
Speaker 2: Deebro just absolutely adore the film on Jermaine Burton, but
Speaker 2: big time character concerns with Jermaine Burton. I had heard
Speaker 2: the multiple teams had taken him off their their draft board,
Speaker 2: talked about the character concerns. All process, it just is
Speaker 2: what it is, you know, talked about how he had
Speaker 2: taken a swipe when there was a crowd storming during
Speaker 2: the Tennessee game when he was in college. Different stuff
Speaker 2: like that. So I was kind of surprised he ended
Speaker 2: up going in the third round based on some of
Speaker 2: that stuff. Obviously Cincinnati likes the tape, and of course
Speaker 2: he liked the tape, but he has to stay focused
Speaker 2: on the field for that to play up. The one
Speaker 2: that I loved of their shoot, the moon Ethos was
Speaker 2: the early fourth round pick of Eric All, who has
Speaker 2: Eric speaking of all the ability in the world in
Speaker 2: this poor tight end class after brock Bauers, there was
Speaker 2: so few quality receivers. Eric All easily has the second
Speaker 2: best receive I mean, he's the second best receiving tight
Speaker 2: end in this class bar none. But will his body
Speaker 2: hold up in the NFL. He had a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago the back injury where he left Michigan then
Speaker 2: and then last year he does come back when he
Speaker 2: transfers to Iowa, immediately plays the beginning of the season,
Speaker 2: he was playing awesome, then he tears his ACL ends
Speaker 2: up declaring for the draft. Some people thought he was
Speaker 2: you know, he was ranked lower on boards throughout the industry.
Speaker 2: Dee Bro and I were very very ball ash. Turns
Speaker 2: out the Bengals were too. I love that that shoot
Speaker 2: the moon call. He is exactly what the doctor ordered
Speaker 2: for Joe Burrow and the guy that we have been
Speaker 2: calling out for the Bengals two draft. If Eric all
Speaker 2: ends up staying healthy in the NFL, he will be
Speaker 2: an abject Steele. But overall for this class, end up
Speaker 2: giving him a seat for those reasons.
Speaker 1: So it's a little ricky Bobby. You're their first or
Speaker 1: last year with this one, so I know there's some
Speaker 1: names there that you really like though the later ones.
Speaker 1: So would you end up giving the Bengals here in
Speaker 1: a grade?
Speaker 3: I because they picked two of the guys off of
Speaker 3: my guy's list for this class. I gave him a
Speaker 3: B plus and I was almost near an A. And okay,
Speaker 3: I'm just with the I'm with the swing from the heels.
Speaker 3: I'm absolutely in line with everything Thor said, and to
Speaker 3: add on top of here with Jermain Burton, he entered
Speaker 3: the process and I get the off field stuff, but
Speaker 3: the tape and the analytics back it up. He entered
Speaker 3: the processes my wide receiver ten. After the post draft,
Speaker 3: he's my wide receiver nine. Maybe they still move on
Speaker 3: from T Higgins. Even if they don't, I think he
Speaker 3: starts in three wide receiver sets from day one, and
Speaker 3: he's a stud man ninety percentile versus single coverage last year.
Speaker 3: And again hammering on what Thord already mentioned about Eric Hall,
Speaker 3: we have waxed poetic about him on the NFL Draft Show,
Speaker 3: and I'll add this to it. I love and we'll
Speaker 3: talk about the Ben Sennett later. If Eric All would
Speaker 3: have stayed healthy the entire year, he would have been
Speaker 3: the clear tight end two of this draft class. He
Speaker 3: was entering the draft my tight end three. He exits
Speaker 3: my tight end three. I will draft eric All in
Speaker 3: trade into Dynasty rookie drafts to get him every single
Speaker 3: place that I can, because he needs to be on
Speaker 3: all the rosters in Dynasty. As a player over the
Speaker 3: last two years when he's gonered, at least twenty targets
Speaker 3: in college tenth in yards per route run thirty yards
Speaker 3: per out run. Before he left last season due to injury,
Speaker 3: he was seventh amongst all FBS tight ends and receiving
Speaker 3: yards eleventh and miss tackles forced. He finished the year
Speaker 3: Joey still leading the nation amongst all tight ends in
Speaker 3: FBS with at least ten man coverage targets in yards
Speaker 3: per route run. We talked about that metric last year
Speaker 3: with Sammy ballgame and why people need to be high
Speaker 3: on him. They need to do the same thing with
Speaker 3: Eric Hall. You can bypass, don't don't reach for brock
Speaker 3: Bauers in dynasty rookie drafts. Just allow the beautiful value
Speaker 3: of Eric Hall to grace your dynasty rosters.
Speaker 2: Appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Debro is all in there on all Cleveland Browns did
Speaker 1: not have a first round pick, which makes it tough
Speaker 1: sometimes to get a really good grade. I'm sure from four.
Speaker 1: But when you step back four and you look at
Speaker 1: what the Cleveland Browns did do with the picks that
Speaker 1: they had, what did you make of their grade?
Speaker 2: I like that you set it up that way because
Speaker 2: I want to make the point that a lack of
Speaker 2: draft equity or the bad trades that led you to
Speaker 2: have a lack of draft equity. I don't bake that
Speaker 2: into my grading methodology. I'm only judging the ball where
Speaker 2: it lies when you make those picks.
Speaker 1: And the Cleveland good golf metaphors of the show today,
Speaker 1: I'll get it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a happy Gilmour one in at some
Speaker 2: point today, Joey. The Browns earned the D plus that
Speaker 2: I gave them because of those picks. The one that
Speaker 2: I liked was the first one right out the gate,
Speaker 2: Michael Hall from Ohio State. There was a lot of
Speaker 2: symmetry with that one. First of all, it hit the
Speaker 2: Browns biggest need with a local kid in Hall at
Speaker 2: at you know, getting their position of biggest need, and
Speaker 2: and at that position it was about to fall off
Speaker 2: the shelf. Hall was the last interior defense alignment before
Speaker 2: there was a big tear drop. There a three technique
Speaker 2: in Michael Hall that crashes into the backfield, one of
Speaker 2: those those gap shooting guys. But again, like there was
Speaker 2: a big talent drop after that. But speaking of dropping
Speaker 2: off after that, the Browns class I didn't like the
Speaker 2: rest of what they did. We all assumed that Zach
Speaker 2: zintered there was gonna be last year Andre Vorhee's from US.
Speaker 2: He dropped into the seventh round because he was injured.
Speaker 2: He was a great college garden and then he was injured.
Speaker 2: Coming into the process, we also assumed that something similar
Speaker 2: is going to happen with Zach Zinter. Instead, it seemed
Speaker 2: like the Browns overdrafted Zack's center from where he would
Speaker 2: have been if he was healthy.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Jamari Thrash, I thought they they overdrafted him.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: The only other pick that I liked of there is
Speaker 2: I do like Bookie Watson, the Missippi State line backer
Speaker 2: that the Browns tuck. I just love his game. He's
Speaker 2: he's not the most physically gifted guy, but he's just
Speaker 2: one of those He's like a William Wallace, like go
Speaker 2: down on the sword kind of a guy. He's just
Speaker 2: fun to watch. But there are other picks at the
Speaker 2: end there. I didn't love those ones either, So I
Speaker 2: just thought a series of reaches on the rest of
Speaker 2: the pick, so I had to give him a D plus.
Speaker 5: De bro What was your grade of the Cleveland Brown
Speaker 5: f absolute f You can talk about Michael Hall filling
Speaker 5: a knee, but the rest of these picks just felt
Speaker 5: like you.
Speaker 3: Just I don't know what the hell they're doing. I'll
Speaker 3: just leave it at that. Like I like Jamari Thrash
Speaker 3: and we talked about him previously in the NFL Draft Show,
Speaker 3: but I'm firmly convinced outside of the Amari Cooper trade,
Speaker 3: this team has no clue about how to evaluate wide receivers.
Speaker 3: You trade for Jerry Judy, good luck with that. You
Speaker 3: traded for Elijah Moore, I mean again, good luck with that?
Speaker 1: One was interesting. I think all of us thought, well, okay,
Speaker 1: let's get him with an actual quarterback. But the problem
Speaker 1: was again that's still the big question. We still haven't
Speaker 1: seen an actual quarter But this is the this is
Speaker 1: the problem. Right, would you make that big move for
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson? You go all in. If it doesn't work,
Speaker 1: it's really hard to reach.
Speaker 3: The rudderless ship. Joeys dead in the water.
Speaker 1: Well, I'll try to rudder us back to shore. See
Speaker 1: what we do here, let's go. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's gonna get any better here. Talk about back to
Speaker 1: back in alphabetical order. This is how we're doing it.
Speaker 1: We're not trying to pile on in the AFC. But
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos, our next Thor n Eystrom. It wasn't
Speaker 1: all that shocking that bo Nicks for us went where
Speaker 1: he went. We had done some mocks where we just said, up,
Speaker 1: this is their pick, They're gonna go ahead and take
Speaker 1: their guy, and on draft night they did. They did
Speaker 1: exactly that, but they did get Troy Franklin at a discount.
Speaker 3: Later on.
Speaker 1: There were a few other selections they made here at
Speaker 1: the wider zever selection spot there and as well as
Speaker 1: excuse me, the wide receiver position and as well as
Speaker 1: an edge rusher two with Ellis. What are your thoughts
Speaker 1: on the Denver Broncos how they grade out for you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've done the whole Bonix thing so many different
Speaker 2: I'm not even going to delve into that. People know
Speaker 2: my thoughts. If you don't, you can read any of
Speaker 2: the things, watch the live show, watch all the different
Speaker 2: shows we did on that. I thought it was an
Speaker 2: utter abomination of a pick. I complimed to Kenny.
Speaker 6: What do you really think the call the thing that
Speaker 6: I'll say I will I thought that they guaranteed themselves
Speaker 6: one of the two yearly afs that I give out
Speaker 6: in the Bell Curve methodology that I do with my grading.
Speaker 2: The compliment that I will give to Sean Payton and
Speaker 2: crew is that they somehow got up to a D,
Speaker 2: which means that they also climbed above the two yearly
Speaker 2: D minuses that I give in the Bell curve. How
Speaker 2: did they salvage this despite picking a guy that I
Speaker 2: gave mid round three grade too at pick twelve in Bonex.
Speaker 2: The Jonah Ellis pick at seventy six was strong Utah
Speaker 2: edge rusher. Then the Troy Franklin pick in one oh
Speaker 2: two I thought was inspired of course bo Nix's collegiate teammate,
Speaker 2: the wide receiver. I think that they might end up
Speaker 2: that Frey Franklin might end up giving them more long
Speaker 2: term value than Bonex their first round pick. We'll have
Speaker 2: to see on that, but yeah, I mean Troy Franklin
Speaker 2: certainly gave Bonex a lot of yardage that he did
Speaker 2: not deserve in college with the yack stuff, so we'll
Speaker 2: see about that. But I also love the Chris Abrams
Speaker 2: Drain pick at one forty five, a very feisty cornerback
Speaker 2: who's undersized, but from Missouri. That's why he ended up
Speaker 2: falling down. Not the best athlete either, but like the
Speaker 2: play style, he's very skilled. Stuff like that. Odrick Estime
Speaker 2: Ericson's boy ends up going there as well. A guy
Speaker 2: that if he hits his ceiling, he looks a lot
Speaker 2: like Chris Carson. So the rest of the picks outside
Speaker 2: of Bonecks, even the last couple of packs I thought
Speaker 2: were pretty good as well. So down the board outside
Speaker 2: of the Bonex pick, I thought that they did decent.
Speaker 2: So they went from what would have been an off
Speaker 2: to salvaging a D.
Speaker 1: Deebro You're grade for the Denver Broncos.
Speaker 3: We're riding together with this. I almost gave them an F.
Speaker 3: I gave him a D just because the Bonix pick
Speaker 3: was so atrocious. And I will state this for Dynasty
Speaker 3: rookie drafts. I will be avoiding Bonicks in every Dynasty
Speaker 3: rookie draft. I get the reasons to select him, and
Speaker 3: I understand the first round draft capital. We did that
Speaker 3: with Mac Jones didn't work out. We did that with
Speaker 3: Kenny Pickett, didn't work out. People will talk about it
Speaker 3: as a process pick, and you get QB two type
Speaker 3: of production out of him in Dynasty, good luck with that.
Speaker 3: It's not going to move the needle for any of
Speaker 3: your dynasty teams. So I will go with skilled players.
Speaker 3: I would go the other route. I with Thor, I
Speaker 3: thought Franklin was a fantastic value, especially as well as
Speaker 3: with Audric Estime. The NFL was worried about his size.
Speaker 3: I guess with Troy Franklin, I'm not that worried. Now
Speaker 3: I did drop him. I had him, and this is
Speaker 3: total clarity. I had him as my wide receiver four
Speaker 3: pre draft. He has dropped to a wide receiver eleven.
Speaker 3: He's my twenty second overall player in Superflex. I think
Speaker 3: he is a really, really good value because this is
Speaker 3: the depth chart he's competing against Joey. He got Courtland Sutton,
Speaker 3: Josh Reynolds, Marvin Mems, Adam Troutman, and Dulcic Like this
Speaker 3: is it's lackluster. So can Troy Franklin ascend to this
Speaker 3: depth chart and eventually be the wide receiver one, especially
Speaker 3: we're talking about the chemistry that he does have with
Speaker 3: Bo Nicks. It's definitely possible. And I'll add on top
Speaker 3: of the estimate pick too, I thought Thor I mean
Speaker 3: laid it out perfectly. Javonte Williams is also an unrestricted
Speaker 3: free agent next year, so they don't have to. They
Speaker 3: gonna let him walk and they have their early down compliment.
Speaker 3: But we also have to mention very quickly, wheel's up
Speaker 3: for Julia McLoughlin with all the screens and the underneath
Speaker 3: stuff that's coming. With bo Nix now under center, Julia mclofflin,
Speaker 3: I threw the saddle next, and I was, of course
Speaker 3: making a joke. I was like, he's gonna get a
Speaker 3: hundred and twenty screen targets. Now that he's not gonna
Speaker 3: hit that number, but I believe he Again, I've talked
Speaker 3: about him in numerous shows already that I think he's
Speaker 3: gonna be a fantas astic value. He is going to
Speaker 3: be better than people are getting him credit for. And
Speaker 3: now with this marriage of a quarterback that loved to
Speaker 3: check down and throw underneath, I think Julia McLoughlin is
Speaker 3: the real, real, big winner, and a lot of people
Speaker 3: are not gonna be talking about him this week.
Speaker 1: The Houston Texans had a great draft last year. They
Speaker 1: got their franchise QB, they got the leader of their defense.
Speaker 1: But for it seems like a different set of circumstances
Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four for the Texans.
Speaker 2: For you, Yeah, we gave them their flowers last year,
Speaker 2: so let's let's toss some cold water on him this year. Houston,
Speaker 2: you get a D minus. This year. It went the
Speaker 2: other way this year. Didn't have the first round pick.
Speaker 2: But again that's that we don't We don't grade you
Speaker 2: on draft equity, just how you did in your slots.
Speaker 2: Didn't love it. The first pick was a forty two
Speaker 2: Kamari Lassiter. I don't. I didn't like Kamari Lassiter's game,
Speaker 2: the lack of footspeed. I saw him get torched over
Speaker 2: the top several times on tape. You have to move
Speaker 2: him inside. It that in terms of the slot guys
Speaker 2: that there was other slot guys that I liked, if
Speaker 2: it's the pure slot projection. At fifty nine they took
Speaker 2: Blake Fisher. I realized that the offensive tackles were getting
Speaker 2: yanked up to port. Maybe you should have prioritized that
Speaker 2: at the forty two pick instead of yanking up Kamari Lassiter.
Speaker 2: There was just some three dimensional chess decisions like that
Speaker 2: where I thought Houston was getting caught behind. And it's like, man,
Speaker 2: if you guys had all Thursday, we're got enough to
Speaker 2: do anything. Maybe you should have thought some of these
Speaker 2: things through when you were watching on TV. The environment
Speaker 2: that you were in just seems like they were a
Speaker 2: step behind, and some of these decisions. I was scratching
Speaker 2: my hat. Great process last year, this one wasn't so good.
Speaker 1: Debro, Were you in the same spot here with thor
Speaker 1: where it was kind of a disappointing considering how good
Speaker 1: last year was for the Texans.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I gave them a D. I almost
Speaker 3: went with an F the few fantasy guys that they
Speaker 3: did draft. I mean as far as skill position stuff,
Speaker 3: like Kate Stover, he's buried in my ranks. He's my
Speaker 3: tight end seven for rookies. Dalton Schultz is going to
Speaker 3: be the starter for the next two years. That pick
Speaker 3: was head scratching, especially when you just gave the new
Speaker 3: contract to Dalton Schultz and you already had Brevin Jordan
Speaker 3: on the team and Juir Jordan going in the sixth round.
Speaker 3: He's gonna help the team, but I don't care about
Speaker 3: him in as far as dynasty goes, because he's gonna
Speaker 3: help the team as a kick returner, so I'm avoiding him.
Speaker 3: He's not even on my board or taxi squad grouping.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on next to the Indianapolis Colts
Speaker 1: as a team that I am very excited about in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four with Anthony Richardson hopefully coming back healthy
Speaker 1: and some of the pieces they have in place there.
Speaker 1: They started with edge, then they went wide receiver, which
Speaker 1: again I'm sure that's gonna be one we talked about
Speaker 1: with Mitchell as a guy that was not as high
Speaker 1: on these guys boards as some other people's boards. But Thor,
Speaker 1: what did you make of the Colts draft here when
Speaker 1: you step back from it.
Speaker 2: I didn't have any real problems with this one. But
Speaker 2: for me, this is like a kind of hit it
Speaker 2: down the fairway kind of a draft. I really like
Speaker 2: the first pick in Lot too from UCLA. They stopped
Speaker 2: the record of the run at the beginning with the
Speaker 2: first fourteenth straight offensive players, So congratulations. See anyone that
Speaker 2: was holding a lot to first defender off the board ticket,
Speaker 2: you obviously have cashed that ticket by now. And I
Speaker 2: like that decision by the Colts. A Lot too, was
Speaker 2: the best pass rusher in this class. Not sure that
Speaker 2: it was closed there. The Colts medical team obviously felt
Speaker 2: comfortable with his medicals. You know, a couple of years
Speaker 2: before that at Washington he had medically retired. Everyone out
Speaker 2: there knows everything about that, so we won't get into that.
Speaker 2: But the last two years at UCLA when he came back,
Speaker 2: that guy was a devastating pass rusher. He has all
Speaker 2: the athleticism you want, six five, two hundred and sixty
Speaker 2: pounds in a ninety fourth percentile athleticism package, and then
Speaker 2: the ridiculous pass rushing moves. You know, I called him
Speaker 2: a jukebox with He not only has all the pass
Speaker 2: rushing moves, the deep grab ag of the reservoir of
Speaker 2: pass rushing moves, but he just cycles through them so fast.
Speaker 2: So it's like he's such a frustrating past of a
Speaker 2: guy to go against for the offensive tackles because they'll
Speaker 2: shut one down and then he just cycles through him go,
Speaker 2: you know, and you have to shut one down, shut
Speaker 2: one down, shut one down. He just keeps going, going going,
Speaker 2: just relentless and infectious energy guy that you know. We
Speaker 2: were hearing him down in Mobile. He was, you know,
Speaker 2: encouraging to all of his teammates. You would hear him
Speaker 2: from the stands, you know when when someone had an
Speaker 2: energetic play, a hustle play, running too the sidelines. It
Speaker 2: was always a lot to you know, uh uh, you know,
Speaker 2: encouraging them and yelling and stuff like that. So I
Speaker 2: just love that pick. Donna Mitchell falls the middle of
Speaker 2: the second round that the Colts ended up taking him.
Speaker 2: Dee Brow and I were not fans of a Donna Mitchell,
Speaker 2: but getting him where the Colts got him, zero problem
Speaker 2: with that, and he fills the exact role that that
Speaker 2: Debro and I were advocating that the Colts plug which
Speaker 2: is wide receiver to pop the top, uh force the
Speaker 2: defense have the second safety over the top, helping out
Speaker 2: on that side because of the Anthony Richardson thing and
Speaker 2: then the spacing thing right and and and now you
Speaker 2: can't have the spy and everything like that. That that
Speaker 2: will help the spacing now with the box as well,
Speaker 2: you thin that thing out. I thought it was a
Speaker 2: decent draft that the day too was kind of man
Speaker 2: for me in the r O. I you know, like
Speaker 2: I said, just sort of hitting it down the middle,
Speaker 2: but a decent draft.
Speaker 1: I give it as all right, d Bro, do you
Speaker 1: have a little bit tougher of a time getting out
Speaker 1: of this Colts draft.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt like there was some definite not reaches,
Speaker 3: but some head scratching picks. Like again, I'm not a
Speaker 3: fan of Adie Mitchell's game. I do understand the fit
Speaker 3: that he has for the cults, and that's where it's
Speaker 3: gonna come down, Like he's just gonna running clear outs.
Speaker 3: So I was told he was a lock to go
Speaker 3: in the round one. I was told that he was
Speaker 3: an ex receiver. I was told all these fantastic things
Speaker 3: in the entire process by people about that loved Adie Mitchell.
Speaker 3: Have him been there not there? I think that he
Speaker 3: went about. I don't disagree with the value. I just
Speaker 3: disagree that I feel like, considering the role that he
Speaker 3: will play, there are there were better wide receivers still
Speaker 3: on the board. So Adie Mitchell look late second, early
Speaker 3: third round pick. As far as dynasty rookie drafts, if
Speaker 3: you want a guy that's going to give you streaky
Speaker 3: NBS type of production, the Nady Mitchell's your guy. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I give the Colts a little bit tougher greade. I
Speaker 3: gave him a d.
Speaker 1: Now the Jacksonville Jaguars traded back. They end up getting
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior from LSU. They went defensive tackle than
Speaker 1: cornered the first few picks forour What do you think
Speaker 1: of the Jaguars draft?
Speaker 2: The trading down at the beginning, that was what I
Speaker 2: liked that they did. You know, obviously they had targeted
Speaker 2: Brian Thomas and they were able to get good value
Speaker 2: on the trade down. Then you end up taking Thomas
Speaker 2: at a more acceptable price point. I had Brian Thomas
Speaker 2: number twenty six on my board. They end up taking
Speaker 2: him twenty third. I'm not going to quibble too hard
Speaker 2: about that. I com Brian Thomas to Christian Watson. I
Speaker 2: think that they'll He'll do just find in Jacksonville. The
Speaker 2: rest of the class I thought was okay. They slightly
Speaker 2: reached in my opinion on Mason Smith. Mason Smith is
Speaker 2: a total boomer Bus proposition. He has all the tools
Speaker 2: you want, six five three oh six, eighty fifth percentile athlete.
Speaker 2: He has that physical tool set. He sort of reminds
Speaker 2: me of Javon Kinlaw when Javon Kinlaw was coming out
Speaker 2: of South Carolina. But it's just the total tool set
Speaker 2: that he was, like this top twenty five recruit coming
Speaker 2: out of high school that did not ever flower out
Speaker 2: at LSU. So will Jacksonville be able to figure that out?
Speaker 2: We'll see. But they are speaking of shooting the moon.
Speaker 2: That was what was happening with that pick. The rest
Speaker 2: of this class, I didn't know really what they were doing.
Speaker 2: Beyond that, I disagreed with a lot of the rest
Speaker 2: of their picks. That's why I ended up giving Jacksonville
Speaker 2: a D plus for their efforts.
Speaker 1: All Right, d Bro, would you make of the Jags?
Speaker 3: Give him a C minus? I mean I've waivered back
Speaker 3: and forth C minus or a D. The guy that
Speaker 3: I really want to highlight here is Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 3: I mean, considering where they got him, I don't disagree again,
Speaker 3: a player that I think much like Ady Mitchell. His
Speaker 3: game is a little more limited. He's going to stretch
Speaker 3: the field. I just felt like it was duplicity with
Speaker 3: them already signing Gabe Davis and people could hate that.
Speaker 1: But if Brantis jor same thing, I thought too.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, like with Brian Thomas Junior, I think
Speaker 3: a lot's getting lost in the sauce as far as
Speaker 3: all the LSU and the Jane Daniels stuff. If we
Speaker 3: want to talk about Okay, did Brian Thomas Junior and
Speaker 3: those receivers make Jane Daniels or was it the other
Speaker 3: way around? I think emphatically in the case of Brian
Speaker 3: Thomas Junior, it was definitely the way round, with Jane
Speaker 3: Daniels making his grade. Now, he tested great, but none
Speaker 3: of these numbers jump off the page. Ninety second and
Speaker 3: two hundred and ninetieth and PFF receiving grade of the
Speaker 3: last two years. The guy that I think that the
Speaker 3: fallout of this is I'm going to draft a ton
Speaker 3: of Christian Kirk this year. You're gonna have Brian Thomas
Speaker 3: Junior and Gabe Davis stretching the field. Tons of room
Speaker 3: underneath is going to be available for Christian Kirk and
Speaker 3: Evan Ingram. Christian Kirk last year weeks two through twelve
Speaker 3: was the wide receiver nineteen and fantasy points per game.
Speaker 3: He will not be valued like that with everybody you
Speaker 3: know gravitating probably to the shiny new toy and Brian
Speaker 3: Thomas Junior. I'm all in on Kirk.
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Speaker 1: to me thor like the rich just got richer. What
Speaker 1: did you think I.
Speaker 2: Give them a name minus you know, and the Chiefs
Speaker 2: they're typically around there, and obviously that is why they're
Speaker 2: so successful. In addition to their quarterback, they just draft
Speaker 2: so so well. You know, we were talking about this
Speaker 2: from the outset with the Ravens of there was some
Speaker 2: very interesting three dimensional chess decisions being made at the
Speaker 2: end of the first round in the wake of that
Speaker 2: environment that we were in with all the offensive tackles
Speaker 2: going early, because you had some of these blue blood
Speaker 2: franchises there at the end of the first round that
Speaker 2: really needed offensive tackle help. But these franchises are so
Speaker 2: successful because they refused to overpay to trade up, or
Speaker 2: they refuse to reach for guys that aren't worthy of going.
Speaker 2: No pun intended with the Chiefs a ventual selection, but
Speaker 2: they refused to do that for you know, to reach
Speaker 2: up for guys. So you had the the interesting decisions
Speaker 2: with those teams. With the Chiefs decision in their slot,
Speaker 2: it came down to do we take the ultimate guy
Speaker 2: that they took, Xavier Worthy, or do we go an
Speaker 2: offensive tackle. It would have been guiding for them, so
Speaker 2: that was what it was for them in the first round.
Speaker 2: They end up going with Worthy in that split decision
Speaker 2: and kicked the can to the offensive tackle in the
Speaker 2: second round, which was a big risk with where the
Speaker 2: offensive tackles sat at that moment, because they really could
Speaker 2: have dried up. You could not guarantee yourself in that
Speaker 2: moment that there would be a quality prospect available at
Speaker 2: the end of the second round. But they end up
Speaker 2: taking Xavier Worthy, which is really really cool that the
Speaker 2: guy that breaks the NFL combined record for speed. You
Speaker 2: are clearly evoking Tyreek Kill with that, and you were clearly,
Speaker 2: you know, calling that back for Patrick Mahomes. A Kansa
Speaker 2: City Chiefs team that needed a dynamic receiver weapon was
Speaker 2: the one thing that they were that offense was desperately
Speaker 2: calling for last season. The fact that they won the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl anyway was kind of ridiculous. But now they
Speaker 2: get that one thing that that they obviously needed. I I.
Speaker 2: Xavier Worthy to DeShawn Jackson, a couple other guys.
Speaker 1: You know from love that comp By the way, to me,
Speaker 1: he's more DeShawn Jackson than Tyreek Hill. So everyone needs
Speaker 1: a sier Tyreek Hill roll love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but just in terms of the explosion and the
Speaker 2: you know, if if you can get him out into space,
Speaker 2: hit him on the hands, that's where everyone in the
Speaker 2: stadium is going to hold their breath. And you know,
Speaker 2: in the same way up at Dishawn Jackson. The one
Speaker 2: thing that they're gonna have to work on him with
Speaker 2: is the drop seas there's some some ball skill issue
Speaker 2: issues with him that he had twelve.
Speaker 1: That's right in Kansas City then, because exactly they were
Speaker 1: pretty good at dropping the football last year.
Speaker 2: You had twelve charted drops with Worthy. The past couple
Speaker 2: of years, I actually think that there was a little
Speaker 2: bit more than that. Now he was pounded with targets
Speaker 2: on those past couple of Texas teams as by fire
Speaker 2: their wide receiver one. So maybe as a guy who's
Speaker 2: not going to be initially the wide receiver, and a
Speaker 2: lot to see on that, and then you work on
Speaker 2: the ball scals a little bit more. But everything else
Speaker 2: plays with him. He's a very good route runner. Obviously,
Speaker 2: the athleticism so so so anyway, you know, I was
Speaker 2: fine with that pick. I like that pick, but then
Speaker 2: the chief sort of lucked out when Kingsley Sua Mattea
Speaker 2: falls to the end of the second round. I had
Speaker 2: talked about this with the Ravens pick before I would
Speaker 2: have taken Sue Matea above Roger Rosenngarten, who the Ravens
Speaker 2: take one pick above Sue of Mateya. I had thirty
Speaker 2: ninth on my board. The Chiefs ended up getting him
Speaker 2: sixty third, so that was his stroke of luck. On
Speaker 2: day three, I love the Chiefs pickup of Jaden Hicks
Speaker 2: from Washington State at one thirty three. I actually had
Speaker 2: him sixty fifth on my board. He was my second safety.
Speaker 2: Really like what the Chiefs did again this process I
Speaker 2: generally do. It's why they're so good at this.
Speaker 1: Give him an A minus de bro Are you just
Speaker 1: as excited as to throw myself about the Chiefs twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four draft?
Speaker 3: I am. I'm gonna poo pooh one or two of
Speaker 3: their picks, though I gave them a B plus, so
Speaker 3: still I kind of wavered back and forth A minus
Speaker 3: B plus. I'm with everything that Thor mentioned about Xavier Worthy.
Speaker 3: He started the process of my wide receiver five. He
Speaker 3: is now my wide receiver four. I'm all in on him.
Speaker 3: If you want to talk about skymore and that's the
Speaker 3: reason why you're worried about drafting Xavier Worthy, you need
Speaker 3: to get your eyes checked because you know you have
Speaker 3: not watched the film. They are two totally different players.
Speaker 3: But moving down the board, man two with a big winner.
Speaker 3: I think out of all of this is going to
Speaker 3: be Isaiah Pachecko. They did not draft a running back,
Speaker 3: did not address the position. Jered mckinnick gone. We got
Speaker 3: a four game sample last year of Isaiah Pachecko being
Speaker 3: the workhorse, playing over seventy percent of the snaps in
Speaker 3: three of those games, where he averaged twenty point two touches,
Speaker 3: almost one hundred and one total yards per game. He's
Speaker 3: gonna be the guy, the do it all guy in
Speaker 3: that backfield. I'm probably gonna have him ranked as an
Speaker 3: RB one. But the reason that I also bumped them
Speaker 3: down the board just a little bit. Are we gonna
Speaker 3: do all this crap again with with the people did
Speaker 3: with Noah Gree with Jared Wiley. I've already seen some
Speaker 3: of it on social media. I'm sorry, I'm not there.
Speaker 3: I haven't been there. I had him ranked lower. I
Speaker 3: know Thor was not in on Wiley as well. Going
Speaker 3: in the fourth round. There were other guys like eric
Speaker 3: Al you could have drafted, moved around the board to
Speaker 3: get going with Jared Wiley. I just feel like we're
Speaker 3: going to do this all over again, and people are
Speaker 3: going to talk about just like they did with Noah
Speaker 3: Gray and puff him up. I'm sorry, Jared Wiley is
Speaker 3: not that guy. And if you want to look at
Speaker 3: the analytics, thirty first and eighth in PFF receiving grade,
Speaker 3: so okay, you like the grade five miss tackles forced
Speaker 3: in his entire collegiate career. He is a catch and
Speaker 3: fall tight end. I will be avoiding him in dinasuy
Speaker 3: Ricky drafts.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to Vegas and see how
Speaker 1: they fared here. They took the best player available to
Speaker 1: them with Brock Bowers. A lot of people thought maybe
Speaker 1: they would do something else or trade out. They did not.
Speaker 1: They stayed there. Jackson Powers Johnson the center, so Glaze,
Speaker 1: I know a player that there's a lot of love
Speaker 1: for in this room. So Thor, the Raiders would you
Speaker 1: greet him.
Speaker 2: Brock Barr's the opposite of a catch and fall tight end.
Speaker 2: And I love that pick. And I know that there's
Speaker 2: concern that the offensive coordinator they haven't and and the
Speaker 2: brass there that they're gonna have a hard time figuring
Speaker 2: out how to how to how to work Bowers in.
Speaker 2: I think that brock Bauers is idiot prove. I think
Speaker 2: that no matter what coaching staff, it's not that they'll
Speaker 2: figure out how to use them. It's of course you
Speaker 2: He's going to get onto the field and then the
Speaker 2: quarterbacks going to get him the ball. And then brock
Speaker 2: Bauer's advance is that it just is what it is.
Speaker 2: When he went to Georgia as a true freshman, they
Speaker 2: had this nasty receiving corps full of NFL the guys
Speaker 2: that are in the NFL now. James Cook was the
Speaker 2: was the running back. They had another NFL tight end
Speaker 2: on that roster. He led that. He became the wide
Speaker 2: receiver one on that team that won the national championship.
Speaker 2: They also was the first team All American. He was
Speaker 2: the same the next year on both accounts. So on
Speaker 2: a national championship team again, Uh, he's going to be.
Speaker 2: He's not going to be the wide receiver one on
Speaker 2: this Raider team. But I think that mister Adams is
Speaker 2: going to greatly appreciate his presence on this team because
Speaker 2: that will help out mister Adams' spacing and the quarterback Minshew.
Speaker 2: You know, a guy who throws it short and intermediate
Speaker 2: is going to love the yards that are manufactured by
Speaker 2: Bowers and then you know Bowers, you can line them
Speaker 2: up anywhere and then just shuttle him the ball. And
Speaker 2: then again he manufactures it, breaks tackles and all that
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. The Raiders are going to love him.
Speaker 2: And the value was was was good there too. You know,
Speaker 2: he got pushed down a little bit because of some
Speaker 2: of these ridiculous quarterback decisions you know above there, but
Speaker 2: he was number nine of my board. They got him thirteen.
Speaker 2: That was great. Also, speaking of great value, Jackson Powers
Speaker 2: Johnson going forty four, in particular in this environment where
Speaker 2: all these offensive linemen had gone above him, mostly at
Speaker 2: the tackles Jacks Powers Johnson center dash guard. But him
Speaker 2: getting pushed down there fabulous, fabulous value for the Raiders.
Speaker 2: He was number thirty one on my board. So I
Speaker 2: love that you mentioned that del Mark Glaiz he was
Speaker 2: one my pet offensive tackle sleeper. I think other guys
Speaker 2: were people in the industry we're sleeping on him because
Speaker 2: they just automatically assumed that he would just be a guard.
Speaker 2: I think you get three position versatility with him with
Speaker 2: the guard and the right tackle. The Raiders obviously really
Speaker 2: really liked him. I'm a fan of his game as well.
Speaker 2: And then down the board, like you look at each
Speaker 2: one of the guys they got, I was bullish on
Speaker 2: almost every single one of the dudes that they ended
Speaker 2: up popping. Dylan Lobby very very late is a tremendous
Speaker 2: receiving back coming up from the SCS. I was banging
Speaker 2: the table for Trey Taylor, a late safety that got
Speaker 2: from air Force, won the Defensive Backup of the Year
Speaker 2: award last year in the FBS and tested very well
Speaker 2: as well. They got an interesting safety from Pittsburgh late.
Speaker 2: I was a big fan of this Raiders draft. I
Speaker 2: ended up giving it a B plus debro.
Speaker 1: Are you as big a fans thoor with the Raiders.
Speaker 3: In I gave them an A. I had to give
Speaker 3: him an A. I think that there are a lot
Speaker 3: of teams we're going to talk about that smash the draft.
Speaker 3: I thought the Raiders just crushed it at every process,
Speaker 3: every part, taking brock Bauers as well as address him
Speaker 3: because they have big needs on the offensive line, and
Speaker 3: I think all of that's really going to help, especially
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks that they have. They need time in the pocket,
Speaker 3: and I think all they did was make their life easier.
Speaker 3: And the guy that I want to highlight in all
Speaker 3: of this is Zamir White. Everybody talked about him then
Speaker 3: people were sleeping like, oh, Zamir is gonna you know,
Speaker 3: I don't hate the Dylan Lobby pick. He's gonna help
Speaker 3: him out on passing downs. But Zamir is gonna be
Speaker 3: one of the engines of this offense. And we saw
Speaker 3: that last year for Antonio Pierce. Weeks fifteen through eighteen,
Speaker 3: he averaged twenty three point three touches per game, one
Speaker 3: hundred and fourteen total yards. He was the RB twelve
Speaker 3: Joey and Fantasy points per game. I'm gonna have him
Speaker 3: not ranked aggressively, but he will be a top fifteen
Speaker 3: running back and people hate that. I'm sorry. Go to
Speaker 3: the numbers. Look at the volume he's going to get
Speaker 3: as well. As when he was the starter, thirteenth and
Speaker 3: explosive run rate. He's gonna get all the work man.
Speaker 3: He might seed a little bit of the routes to
Speaker 3: Dylan Lobby this year, but the goal line touches the
Speaker 3: early down war. He's gonna get volume, and we know
Speaker 3: volume is king in fantasy.
Speaker 1: Another team that I thought had a great draft of
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers. They start off with the tackle, as
Speaker 1: we said they were going to a Joe Alt. They
Speaker 1: landed McConkie at wide receiver, Junior Colson the linebacker. You
Speaker 1: bring in your guy if you're Harball, I mean thor.
Speaker 1: This felt like an a to me. But what did
Speaker 1: you give him?
Speaker 2: Absolutely crush it. I gave him an As I mentioned
Speaker 2: Joe Alt, there was thought that they could take j. C. Latham,
Speaker 2: but they ended up doing the right thing with Joe Alt,
Speaker 2: the best tackle in this class, and stayed with what
Speaker 2: we thought that they were going to do. Harbod wanting
Speaker 2: to build up the offensive line from the very first
Speaker 2: pick of him taking over this franchise. Then with the
Speaker 2: second one, Lad McConkie. What a smash pick there at
Speaker 2: the top of the second round. We knew heading in
Speaker 2: that their receiving course stunk, and for you know, it
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, I know they're receiving cours stinks. But
Speaker 2: the Vegas board, they had the receiver as the favorite
Speaker 2: within that fist line. And I know Jim Harbor, I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure he's not going to take a receiver with
Speaker 2: the first pick. It made all kinds of sense at
Speaker 2: the top of this second and Lad McConkie in particular,
Speaker 2: a guy who gets open at utter will justin Herbert
Speaker 2: is going to love working with that guy. And in
Speaker 2: the offense that Harbaugh runs, as you guys know, it's
Speaker 2: run on the early downs, you get closer to the sticks.
Speaker 2: What do you do on third down? You make it manageable.
Speaker 2: You deceive the guy that can get across there every
Speaker 2: single time. The efficiency thing, that's Lad McConkie. That guy's
Speaker 2: gonna have a metric ton of catcher as any a
Speaker 2: metric ton of times he is going to convert the
Speaker 2: first down. So love that pick. Next pick, Junior Colson,
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe the NFL filtered a guy down the
Speaker 2: board that I thought was the best linebacker in this class,
Speaker 2: who was the folk room point of those the nasty
Speaker 2: Michigan defense last year for Jim Harbaugh that won the
Speaker 2: national title. Down to the sixty ninth pick to Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 2: I thought that was crazy. I bet he couldn't believe
Speaker 2: it in the war room, Harbaugh as they submitted that card.
Speaker 2: And then going down into Day three, the Fabulous values
Speaker 2: cam Hart at one hundred and fortieth. That guy was
Speaker 2: one of the better cornerbacks last year in the nation.
Speaker 2: Then he goes to the Senior Bowl. He was awesome.
Speaker 2: Some athletic testing at the NFL Combine that was awesome value.
Speaker 2: My favorite Day three sleeper, the people that I looked
Speaker 2: at my Twitter on Saturday know where I'm going to
Speaker 2: this was Kamani Vidal of Troit. They got him at
Speaker 2: one eighty one. The guy was pounding the table for
Speaker 2: all process. I thought it was so interesting that the
Speaker 2: Rams took Blake Korham. I think it was in round
Speaker 2: three Kamani. You know, of course, Jim Harbaugh's boy from college.
Speaker 2: Kamani Vidal is almost in the same physical package, but
Speaker 2: he's actually a better athlete than Blake Korham as Kamani
Speaker 2: Vidal is also an awesome pass blocker. Of course, the
Speaker 2: Chargers running back room. In advance of this, it was JK.
Speaker 2: Dobbins and it was Gus Edwards. Kamani Vidal was running
Speaker 2: back seven. On my board, I ranked him one hundred
Speaker 2: and seventeenth. I am so bullish on that kid. I
Speaker 2: commed him to Jalen Warren. I believe the Kamani Vidal
Speaker 2: upsets both JK. Dobbins and Gus Edwards to start as
Speaker 2: a rookie in that run first offense at Jim Harbaugh runs.
Speaker 2: I think he's a sleeper. Dynasty owners out there, listen
Speaker 2: to my words right now, you go out and get
Speaker 2: that kit. He's going to surprise people in the NFL.
Speaker 1: All right, Debro, are you surprised how much you like
Speaker 1: the Chargers draft?
Speaker 3: I love their draft. I also gave them an A.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll just I'm just gonna agree with everything
Speaker 3: Thors said about lad McConkie. He entered the pre draft
Speaker 3: process my wide receiver seven or eight. He walks out
Speaker 3: of it as my wide receiver six. But the case
Speaker 3: in Dynasty Rookie drafts for Ladi McConkie begins at wide
Speaker 3: receiver four. He is locked into the first round of
Speaker 3: Dynasty Rookie drafts, regardless of format, moving down the board.
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, even all that's Thor's boy has been.
Speaker 3: He was my RB five pre draft, is my RB
Speaker 3: five post draft. I don't care that he went in
Speaker 3: Round six. Like Thors said, he's competing with JK. Dobbins
Speaker 3: and Gus Edwards for work in this backfield. And he's
Speaker 3: a proven volume back. To add to Thor's take here, man, look,
Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty one carries at least in each
Speaker 3: last two years, fifty seven percent of his games. In
Speaker 3: his final collegiate season, he hadn't He's twenty three carries.
Speaker 3: He has proven he can handle the volume. He has
Speaker 3: a bowling ball tackle breaking machine. Twenty first and pff
Speaker 3: elusive rating. I'll be trying to draft and trade into
Speaker 3: rookie drafts. Two draft Kamani, but all this year. Miami
Speaker 3: Dolphins up next. Maybe not a big splash draft for
Speaker 3: the Dolphins. But in your opinions or did they get
Speaker 3: what they needed?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I gave him a B. I
Speaker 2: was out speaking of the splash thing was I was
Speaker 2: advocating in advance at Thursday that they just throw caution
Speaker 2: to the wind and drafts, if you're worthy to add
Speaker 2: to their ridiculously speedy receiving core. I thought that that
Speaker 2: would be fun. They ended up doing.
Speaker 1: They might have They might have wished that they had
Speaker 1: because eventually they're gonna have to pay Jalen Waddle.
Speaker 3: So that is true.
Speaker 2: And it is like they say in Draft A, people
Speaker 2: pay to get wet, is what they tell Sonny Weaver.
Speaker 2: But the Dolphins end up exercising discretion and in said
Speaker 2: take Chop Robinson, who is going to help out the
Speaker 2: pass rush. Chop Robinson had an utterly ludicrous pressure rate
Speaker 2: in college and the athletic profile six foot three two
Speaker 2: fifty four, ninety seven percent athlete, the first step to
Speaker 2: you know, everything like that, the speed to power game
Speaker 2: that he has, that stuff all translates. The one thing
Speaker 2: with him he has the short arms, and the pressures
Speaker 2: were not converted into sacks at the rate that you
Speaker 2: would expect. So those were the two things of his
Speaker 2: profile that ended up pushing him out of the top twenty.
Speaker 2: But a very very interesting prospect at an acceptable price point.
Speaker 2: There Then they ended up getting one of the last
Speaker 2: quality offensive tackles that was available when they took Patrick
Speaker 2: Paul at again an acceptable price point, ended up getting
Speaker 2: him fifty five item fifty fourth in the crazy offensive
Speaker 2: tackle marketplace that we were in on Friday, Thursday and
Speaker 2: Friday night. That was beyond fair. The last one, the
Speaker 2: last pick. Two other runs that I'll shout out Jalen Wright.
Speaker 2: That pick Tennessee, the Tennessee running back raised a lot
Speaker 2: of eyebrows when the Dolphins took them because obviously they
Speaker 2: have devnaut chain and they had given out the extension
Speaker 2: to the veteran blanket who was their other. Yeah, most
Speaker 2: it raised a lot of eyebrows when they took Jalen Right.
Speaker 2: Just some context for people out there. I was told
Speaker 2: earlier in April that the Dolphins were the team that
Speaker 2: was all over Jalen Right, all processed like more than
Speaker 2: anyone else and by a significant margin, which confused me
Speaker 2: when I heard that. So I asked some more questions
Speaker 2: about that, and then I thought about it more and
Speaker 2: asked some more questions about it. It started to make
Speaker 2: more sense to me as we move closer to the draft.
Speaker 2: With Auchane, you can only you have to cap his
Speaker 2: touches per game because of his size. Obviously, Mike McDaniel
Speaker 2: fetishizes his backs like this with the home run hitting
Speaker 2: ability and everything like that. It's not just the injury
Speaker 2: insurance against a back like that, it's also the ability
Speaker 2: to keep a back like that on the field at
Speaker 2: all times. So it's both of those things in conjunction
Speaker 2: with one another. Auchane, you have the thing of the
Speaker 2: with the running on the you know whatever. With Jalen Wright,
Speaker 2: he is He's a good receiver. He's also a better
Speaker 2: pass blocker than people think, and so I think initially
Speaker 2: you get that stuff from him. That's how he can
Speaker 2: work into a platoon. I think the one thing early
Speaker 2: on with Jalen right that you got to work on
Speaker 2: it was the Mickey Mouse offense that he was playing
Speaker 2: at Tennessee with where they have the hyper spread the
Speaker 2: field out and whatever and they get the box thinned out.
Speaker 2: The vision with him on the running concepts in that
Speaker 2: he was always just looking for the crease and then
Speaker 2: to hit the dinger. I think that's certainly a fair
Speaker 2: nitpick about his game. I think early on in the
Speaker 2: practices that's what you're working on him in a more
Speaker 2: conventional offense, how to read the defensive front and to
Speaker 2: run with flow behind the offensive line. This is a
Speaker 2: really good situation for Jalen Rank because you can work
Speaker 2: on him with that. Auchane will take care of that
Speaker 2: work while you go. You see how you develop him
Speaker 2: with that, while Jalen Wright you can take some of
Speaker 2: the passing down stuff. Give Auchane a blow on that.
Speaker 2: The world goes around. I like that pick and it
Speaker 2: made more sense to me when I asked that. So
Speaker 2: last one, I'll shout out the Malik Washington pick at
Speaker 2: one eight four, absolute steal. He was number ninety on
Speaker 2: my board. A guy that I comped to Rondale Moore,
Speaker 2: tackle breaking machine that can actually run routes. He is
Speaker 2: the guy that people think that Malachi Corley.
Speaker 1: Is all right, de bro your take on the Dolphins
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four draft.
Speaker 3: Again him a B plus and I really liked a
Speaker 3: lot of the things that they did. Unfortunately, I don't
Speaker 3: like a lot of the things that they did for fantasy.
Speaker 3: This was a nightmare fuel landing spot for Jalen Right.
Speaker 3: And you have thora talked about the extension they gave
Speaker 3: to Raheem Mostard. He's probably gonna be splitting work with
Speaker 3: with with Devon h Chan this week. Or excuse me,
Speaker 3: this week, this year, and Jalen Wright's gonna sadly be
Speaker 3: on the outside looking in, assuming that they stay healthy.
Speaker 3: But I do love the pick, big assumption.
Speaker 1: In all fairness, it's not like they've had a great
Speaker 1: track record of doing that. Those guys, I mean, most
Speaker 1: are surprisingly so last year, but not throughout his career.
Speaker 3: No, And that's fair and that's fair. So I think
Speaker 3: if you're going to take the home run swing in
Speaker 3: dynasty rookie drafts, then you draft Jalen Wright because the
Speaker 3: talent is there, the situation is there. It's just how
Speaker 3: much volume he is gonna get and when is he
Speaker 3: gonna get a chance to show what he can do,
Speaker 3: Because if moster stay is healthy, that might be twenty
Speaker 3: twenty five. Hell, he's got a two year contract. That
Speaker 3: might be twenty twenty six. We don't know. So if
Speaker 3: you're willing to embrace the risk, I totally understand it
Speaker 3: because he was my RB two entering this draft process.
Speaker 3: And I'll double down on what Thorg just said about
Speaker 3: Malik Washington. I thought he should have gone in the
Speaker 3: third or fourth round. The fact that they got him
Speaker 3: in round six is not great in the sense of
Speaker 3: that type of draft capital tied to a rookie. Does
Speaker 3: he get any opportunities? When are those opportunities come? Because
Speaker 3: the draft capitol is not gonna afford him those opportunities.
Speaker 3: But like you talked about Joey, if they got to
Speaker 3: pay Jayleen Waddle, eventually does he walk out the door.
Speaker 3: And then we're getting one of Malik Washington or speaking
Speaker 3: of another Washington near TAJH. Washington to either one of
Speaker 3: these guys get opportunities in this passing attack. Love the
Speaker 3: Malik Washington value. I don't like it that much for Dynasty,
Speaker 3: but it's a smash pick for the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: All right. Next up here the gentle boys, the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots. They got their franchise quarterback with Drake May.
Speaker 1: After that, you know it's funny or they well, they
Speaker 1: lulled me into a false sense of security that times
Speaker 1: were changing, and then it looked like Bill Belichick was
Speaker 1: actually still somehow working this draft for what did you
Speaker 1: graide the Patriots?
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'll try to be as gentle as I
Speaker 2: can with this. The Drake May ceiling is where I
Speaker 2: agree with people. It's just early on there needs to
Speaker 2: be worked there, and I hope that the Patriots exercise
Speaker 2: patients with him. The other thing that I was hoping
Speaker 2: for was is the supporting cast. That the supporting cast
Speaker 2: thing is the thing that people when the Drake May supporters,
Speaker 2: that's the thing that they would always say, as I
Speaker 2: don't want to say excuse, but when they would be
Speaker 2: at you know, advocating for him the regression in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three, they'd be like, well, look at his supporting cast.
Speaker 2: So they're clearly saying that he needs a supporting cast
Speaker 2: around him to have success in the NFL, or at
Speaker 2: least initially. So you know, that was one thing that
Speaker 2: you're hoping for New England. That's you know, you're hoping
Speaker 2: that you can bolster that supporting cast. The rest of
Speaker 2: this draft I wasn't sure about after that. Other people
Speaker 2: are higher on Drake May than me. I had him
Speaker 2: QB four did have him as a top ten guy
Speaker 2: my board, but I had him number eight. It was
Speaker 2: the rest of this draft that was the bigger issue
Speaker 2: for me. I'm I'm not going to argue against Drake
Speaker 2: maybe you know, as as the third guy off the board,
Speaker 2: But like I said, the rest of the draft The
Speaker 2: biggest one for me was the Jalen Polk pick. I
Speaker 2: believe that Jalen McMillan is better for reasons that we
Speaker 2: talked about on the live stream and talked about, you know,
Speaker 2: prior to that on on other shows. I think that
Speaker 2: if Jalen McMillan never gets injured, I don't think that
Speaker 2: Jalen Polk goes before the fourth round. I think he's
Speaker 2: a fifth rounder or later. Cayden Wallace I didn't get
Speaker 2: that one, and I didn't get Leyden Robinson. The one
Speaker 2: pick that I loved of theirs is Javon Baker, who
Speaker 2: I believe is a better prospect than Jalen Polk. I
Speaker 2: believe that Javon Baker in very quick order could ascend
Speaker 2: to the wide receiver one row in New England. But yeah, overall,
Speaker 2: my metrics showed that the Patriots spent the fourth most
Speaker 2: draft capital in the NFL and came out number thirty
Speaker 2: one in ROI. In this class, they absolutely can prove
Speaker 2: me wrong because there's there's some upside guys in this class,
Speaker 2: particularly Drake May. If he becomes a superstar, this draft
Speaker 2: class is a smash. It doesn't really matter what happens
Speaker 2: with the other guys. But yeah, coming out, that's that's
Speaker 2: where my numbers were at on it.
Speaker 1: Well, you seem positive about Baker. I got a text
Speaker 1: from Scott Bogman over the weekend. Hey, cheer up, buddy.
Speaker 1: At least they drafted Baker. That's literally what it says.
Speaker 3: Because.
Speaker 1: Well, let's see, let's hope he's gonna need to tough
Speaker 1: grade here. Debro your thoughts on the Pats.
Speaker 3: Draft, Yeah, I givem n F There's no getting around it.
Speaker 3: After the only picks that they made their entire draft
Speaker 3: class that I agree with, or Drake May and Javon Baker.
Speaker 3: And if you'd have flipped, actually, if you would have
Speaker 3: flipped them and said they took Baker in the second
Speaker 3: and they took Polk in the fourth, I would have
Speaker 3: given them probably a better grade. It just it was egregious.
Speaker 3: And yes, sat on social media, people have already dubbed
Speaker 3: me the Jalen Polk hater, apparently because I've gotten a
Speaker 3: lot of comments with that. But tell me this really
Speaker 3: gets you worked up. Joey, your second round wide receiver
Speaker 3: that they drafted last year seventieth and yards per hour
Speaker 3: run seventy fifth and PFF for Steven Grade the year
Speaker 3: before that in those metrics one hundred and fifty third,
Speaker 3: two hundred and fifteenth. Just does that really excite?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not even a matter of hating Polk, or
Speaker 1: if you love Polk, you could have gotten them later.
Speaker 1: To Thoris's point, Yes, and Lad McCaughey was sitting right there,
Speaker 1: and you could have had your cake and eaten it too,
Speaker 1: and taken whoever else you wanted. That's the frustration I
Speaker 1: think for Patriots fans. So I know it's been too
Speaker 1: long in the dance here on this one, because it's
Speaker 1: just gonna make me more depressed. So let's talk about
Speaker 1: the Jets. Let's haimmer them instead, because nothing Patriots fans
Speaker 1: love to do more than hammer and the Jets again,
Speaker 1: they took the offensive tackle here to start. There's an
Speaker 1: odd amount of love here or buzz from the Jet
Speaker 1: fans on social media about the Corlely pick. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: turn things over to you here for the draft.
Speaker 2: Right here for Yeah, this should be a pick me
Speaker 2: up for you, Joe. I give the Jets d minus
Speaker 2: for this for Shan he certainly has bigger fans than me.
Speaker 2: I understand some of it, but he was number twenty
Speaker 2: one on my board. They pick them eleven. What I
Speaker 2: don't understand is the Jets picking them like they have
Speaker 2: their outside like I understand, like, oh, we want one
Speaker 2: for the future and stuff like that. You have the
Speaker 2: short term guys on the outside. But it appears that
Speaker 2: for Shan, who probably heads in or release right now,
Speaker 2: is projected as OT three. It's like, guys, aren't you
Speaker 2: trying to win this year? Like isn't this like a
Speaker 2: win now scenario with Aaron Rodgers and you have ostensibly
Speaker 2: immediate help in the start or need in the starting lineup,
Speaker 2: both at slot receiver and at pass catching tight end,
Speaker 2: you would think, but then you take for Shanu for
Speaker 2: the future. I didn't. I didn't really get that one,
Speaker 2: like worry about that after Rodger retires. You had brock
Speaker 2: Bauers on the board. Also, you potentially had an opportunity
Speaker 2: with Roma Duneze coming down there. I would have contacted
Speaker 2: that bumbling more on Terry Fontino and seeing if you
Speaker 2: could save him from himself and see like, hey, Terry,
Speaker 2: you wanted to just draft Michael Pennix in this slot
Speaker 2: and at least you can sell it to the fan base.
Speaker 2: So you picked up some draft equity, you know while
Speaker 2: you did it, and then we can steal roma dunze
Speaker 2: from the Bears. That's what I would have tried to do.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they engaged in that and they
Speaker 2: just couldn't save Terry from himself. But then you know,
Speaker 2: if you're stuck at eleven, I would have taken brock Bars.
Speaker 2: But anyway, they take for Shannie there. Then at sixty
Speaker 2: five they take a pick for me that like this one,
Speaker 2: Like I was getting goosebumps because it so much of
Speaker 2: so Malachi Corley. I camped him to Amari Rodgers and
Speaker 2: like the symmetry was crazy. Amari Rodgers of course was
Speaker 2: drafted by the Packers when they had Aaron Rodgers, and
Speaker 2: of course he busted with the packer because Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: didn't want to throw the lollipop manufactured touches behind the
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage, which were the only things that Amari
Speaker 2: Rodgers could catch to do with broken tackle stuff. That's
Speaker 2: the only stuff that Malachi Corley does. That was where
Speaker 2: all of his production came at Western Kentucky. He doesn't
Speaker 2: run routes, so we're gonna find out if either Fate
Speaker 2: has a sense of humor or if Aaron Rodgers in
Speaker 2: his old age has decided he wants to throw screen
Speaker 2: passes behind the line of scrimmage. Otherwise you don't have
Speaker 2: a slot receiver right away. I see people putting Malachi
Speaker 2: Corley into the Jets starting lineup next year. If Aaron
Speaker 2: Rodgers again, if he wants to throw a screen pass
Speaker 2: behind the line of scrimmage to manufacture Malachi Corley touches,
Speaker 2: you have your starting slot receiver for next year. Otherwise
Speaker 2: you categorically do not. Malachai Corley does not run routes
Speaker 2: down the field. The rest of it. Deep out made
Speaker 2: the joke in the moment of how they left their
Speaker 2: war room and they just put the auto draft button
Speaker 2: on for running backs on day three. So I didn't
Speaker 2: understand that either this was a weird draft D minus
Speaker 2: for the Jets.
Speaker 1: D minus from four D bro, What did you give
Speaker 1: the Jets a D?
Speaker 3: I I don't understand their drafting method at all. It's
Speaker 3: Malachi Corley is my wide receiver twenty one in Dynasty.
Speaker 3: I will not be drafting mob avoiding and let other
Speaker 3: people fall on that sword and you have Brice Hall
Speaker 3: that you drafted. He's coming another year off of the
Speaker 3: knee injury, so they're gonna lean on him this year.
Speaker 3: And what you draft Braylan Allen? What's he gonna do? Wait,
Speaker 3: you already had Israel band Ofcanda from last year. It's
Speaker 3: like when they get to day three, they're like, let's
Speaker 3: see what running backs are out there, let's do this,
Speaker 3: and they go, Braylen Allen, you have your quarterback of
Speaker 3: the present. You're all in to win, and you draft
Speaker 3: Jordan Travis in round five? How is that helping your
Speaker 3: team this year? How at all? And again around five
Speaker 3: and again in round five you take I like Isaiah
Speaker 3: Davis as a prospect, But tell me, how do you
Speaker 3: get behind drafting him or Braylan Allen in Dynasty right now?
Speaker 3: As both of them sit behind Breece Hall. If you
Speaker 3: got Breeze Hall on your team and Dynasty, sure you
Speaker 3: want to take one of these guys and put them
Speaker 3: in your taxi squad as the handcuff. That's fine. You're
Speaker 3: gonna hate yourself and you're gonna hate life whenever Israel
Speaker 3: Banda Kando's the guy. If Breeze hallam has any time
Speaker 3: with injury. So the Jets a D for this draft.
Speaker 3: Terrible draft.
Speaker 1: I thought the Pittsburgh Steelers came out pretty good for
Speaker 1: I mean, they took Patanu Frasier address the offensive line needs.
Speaker 1: Then they went for wide receiver in Roman Wilson. So
Speaker 1: what do you think here of these Steelers draft?
Speaker 2: This was a crazy good draft. Yeah. The Steelers had
Speaker 2: four like clear needs at least in their starting lineup
Speaker 2: coming into this thing, and it was like it was
Speaker 2: like you know when you line up cans at the
Speaker 2: shooting range, and then it was like they just took
Speaker 2: out the piss and it was just bang ban ban
Speaker 2: ban bank. Like in their first four picks you mentioned Patanu. Okay,
Speaker 2: there goes to the tackle on need that thing saw
Speaker 2: for the next next one, Fraser, bang that one's self
Speaker 2: for the next decade. Next one, how about we take
Speaker 2: care of that slot receiver, Bang one's that one's sell
Speaker 2: for the next decade. Then starting linebacker Peyton Wilson come
Speaker 2: on down, bang, And then even the next one, Mason McCormick,
Speaker 2: there's a shot that he plays early at one of
Speaker 2: the guard positions. Because of course, their whole offensive line
Speaker 2: was ranted He's a sleeper coming up from the FCS,
Speaker 2: A kid that ninety nine percentile athlete. It sixs four
Speaker 2: to three ten. This was a smash of a draft.
Speaker 2: They were all over this thing and that positions of
Speaker 2: need as well. It was the value, it was the
Speaker 2: quality and all their positions in need. This is about
Speaker 2: as good as it gets. This one was was AAA
Speaker 2: all the way down the board. Great job by the Steelers,
Speaker 2: dee Bro.
Speaker 1: Do you share with Thor sentiments here about the positivity
Speaker 1: regarding the Steelers draft.
Speaker 3: I gave him an A plus and I wish there
Speaker 3: was a higher grade that I could possibly give them
Speaker 3: because they absolutely crushed this. Thor nailed it. I mean
Speaker 3: their entire offense. This is the chess match. This was
Speaker 3: just the chef's kiss of how you rebuild your entire
Speaker 3: offensive line basically, and one draft class and they crushed it.
Speaker 3: And you add Roman Wilson, so I mean he's gonna
Speaker 3: be starting in week one. He's gonna be competing with
Speaker 3: Van Jefferson, Calvin Austin for snaps. And I hate to
Speaker 3: tell people, but Russell Wilson has hasn't seen the middle
Speaker 3: of the field over the last like ten years. Justin
Speaker 3: fields is not gonna see the middle of the field,
Speaker 3: So pat frying me. It's not gonna be the number
Speaker 3: two target in this offense. It's gonna be Roman Wilson
Speaker 3: and a player that, like the volume stats aren't there
Speaker 3: last year, twenty ninth in yards, ber rought run, twenty
Speaker 3: second in PFF receiving grade. The Steelers absolutely crushed this draft.
Speaker 3: I honestly think they had the best draft of any
Speaker 3: NFL team out.
Speaker 1: There, all right, So very high marks for the Steelers.
Speaker 1: Let's close things out here with the Tennessee Titans. Thora
Speaker 1: Let's start with you. They got their tackle on the
Speaker 1: offensive side of Latham, then sweat on the other side.
Speaker 1: Would you think of what the Titans did.
Speaker 2: Tradans were sitting at seven and they were praying to
Speaker 2: the gods that the Chargers would trade with a team
Speaker 2: that was coming up for a quarterback, which would have
Speaker 2: had the effect of pushing mister Joe Alt to number seven,
Speaker 2: because the Titans desperately needed a not only tackle help,
Speaker 2: but in particular left tackle, because Will Levis talked about
Speaker 2: this in advance of the of the NFL Draft that
Speaker 2: he glitches under pressure, So you needed the and of
Speaker 2: course the Titans, they were just so terrible with the
Speaker 2: pass blocking last year, so you're not really given Will
Speaker 2: Levis a fair shake sending them, sending them out there
Speaker 2: into the into the lines that next year behind that
Speaker 2: offens line if you don't give them out there. But
Speaker 2: of course the Chargers end up sticking and picking uh,
Speaker 2: they take Joe Alt So that put the Titans to
Speaker 2: a decision there at seven do you pull up for
Speaker 2: Seanu there? At seven? Do you do Fatanu there? Those
Speaker 2: are the only two sort of media left tackle guys
Speaker 2: that you could have taken there, but both of them
Speaker 2: would have felt like reaches. The Titans ended up taking
Speaker 2: the guy who was my number two tackle off the board,
Speaker 2: Lathum at jac Latham from Alabama at number seven. And
Speaker 2: you guys remember on the live stream I said, I
Speaker 2: don't disagree with this in terms of qualitative lead them
Speaker 2: taking him. He's a second tackle off my board. But
Speaker 2: the interesting thing about it is he's a right tackle.
Speaker 2: This is a guy who has not played a left
Speaker 2: tackle since high school. I don't think he can play
Speaker 2: left tackle at the NFL sixty six three forty three,
Speaker 2: and again they didn't play at left tackle at Alabama.
Speaker 2: Then the So that's what we said live. That's what
Speaker 2: I said live. Then in the post draft presser, the
Speaker 2: Titans go to the podium and they say we're gonna
Speaker 2: play him at left tackle next year. So desperation is
Speaker 2: a stinky cologne. They don't have another option. That is
Speaker 2: what they are going to attempt to don't. We don't
Speaker 2: know how he's gonna do because we did not see
Speaker 2: jac Latham play left tackle in college. It's really the
Speaker 2: only concern of my game with jac Lathum is those
Speaker 2: feet can get a little bit cumbersome against speed players,
Speaker 2: and he can get tied up. He's a colossus with power.
Speaker 2: He is an awesome run blocker, and to get around
Speaker 2: him on the out shoulder, it's like running around a
Speaker 2: cruise ship. But when he can get tied up by
Speaker 2: those counter moves, because you can get him going the
Speaker 2: one way rocking if with the quick guys, the athletic
Speaker 2: guys coming the other way, that's where you get that
Speaker 2: big body moving. That was my concern with him potentially
Speaker 2: in the NFL in a position he hasn't played again
Speaker 2: since high school. What to see how it goes. But
Speaker 2: that is what they're gonna try the rest of the picks.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a bit of a reach on Sweat,
Speaker 2: but I love the pick on Center great to start
Speaker 2: out Day three. Love to pick on Jervis Brownlee the
Speaker 2: next one there. Overall, I give the Titans a C plus.
Speaker 1: All right, d Bro, what'd you give the Titans?
Speaker 3: Gave them a C minus. I agree with all the
Speaker 3: points on Latham. I thought Sweat was a reach for
Speaker 3: fantasy purposes. There's just not much to chew on here.
Speaker 3: Does the Latham pick supposedly help Will Levis. We'll see.
Speaker 3: If Latham's not good, it's not gonna help him. And
Speaker 3: Jawan Jackson is really a zero sum for dynasty managers
Speaker 3: because he's gonna help him on punt return and kick
Speaker 3: return duties but not be a factor on the offense.
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