Speaker 1: A late fifteen to.
Speaker 2: Ten touched up suck. All right, we're back at it
Speaker 2: with another episode of Chargers Weekly that's always joined by
Speaker 2: Matt money Smith. Buddy, I feel like we just did this, well,
Speaker 2: we did, We just did this on Sunday. Not much
Speaker 2: has changed, but just a lot of excitement from fans
Speaker 2: with regards to the class and also, you know, we
Speaker 2: were taping it during the time where I think undrafted
Speaker 2: free agents were starting to be finalized as well, so
Speaker 2: that's maybe something we can get into today as well
Speaker 2: as some questions from the fans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I think they're a big part of
Speaker 1: it is how much you consumed it. So a huge
Speaker 1: thank you to all of you for streaming and downloading
Speaker 1: and rating and commenting. That ultimately is why we're here today. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was very popular pod, It was very
Speaker 1: popular YouTube episode, So thank you. I think that's you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to climb up here on Mount Pious
Speaker 1: and you know, kind of one up you, Chris, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we both feel the same way. We're very
Speaker 1: thankful that all of you consume this pod and it
Speaker 1: means a lot to us, and it's something we do
Speaker 1: because it's fun, but to know that you all enjoy
Speaker 1: it means a heck of a lot to us. So
Speaker 1: thank you for doing that. And ultimately that's why we're here,
Speaker 1: because it was It was our most popular pod and
Speaker 1: YouTube episode of the last six months or something, So
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 2: That's why we do it. We do it for the fans.
Speaker 2: And I tell you what, you guys, step up. We
Speaker 2: were going to talk about and we are going to
Speaker 2: talk about JK. Dobbins and Nick Hardwick and coach dev
Speaker 2: and they spoke Monday at the podium, so get away
Speaker 2: from the drafts of just a little bit. But I
Speaker 2: thought that we would reserve like a little bit of
Speaker 2: time for questions. So that's why I posted it this morning,
Speaker 2: thinking like, hey, we get a few, and we got
Speaker 2: a ton, so we'll start with Monday's pressers. And you know, JK.
Speaker 2: Dobbins is the guy money that you mentioned about a
Speaker 2: month ago and said, hey, if this is a player
Speaker 2: that they can acquire, you know, it could be a
Speaker 2: huge boom for the Chargers. And the fact that they
Speaker 2: drafted a running back in the sixth round, I think
Speaker 2: tells you that they're pretty comfortable with JK and Gusts
Speaker 2: being the one two punch initially to start, and we
Speaker 2: finally got to hear from JK. We'll play a clip
Speaker 2: in a second, but any thoughts about what he had
Speaker 2: to say.
Speaker 1: Money, He looks great. I mean, you see how swow
Speaker 1: he is. He is a big physical back. And I
Speaker 1: just pulled up, you know, the free agent signings and
Speaker 1: when you see Saquan who has had serious injury concerns
Speaker 1: throughout his career, He's an exceptional back, but he is
Speaker 1: also had had very serious injury issues. Three years, thirty
Speaker 1: eight million bucks, Josh Jacobs four years, forty eight And
Speaker 1: I know all of these are a little bit different.
Speaker 1: It depends on how the money is guaranteed and what's
Speaker 1: paid upfront and all that sort of stuff. But you know,
Speaker 1: Derek Henry to Baltimore, Tony Pollard Titans, DeAndre Swift on
Speaker 1: twenty five million bucks to the Bears, like this is
Speaker 1: an incredible opportunity for the Chargers to really get value.
Speaker 1: It's an opportunity for JK. And as he said in
Speaker 1: his presser, knowing what this offense, is very comfortable working
Speaker 1: in tandem with Gus Edwards, very comfortable with Greg Roman's
Speaker 1: play calling, like to the tune of six yards per carry.
Speaker 1: This could be a home run, an absolute home run
Speaker 1: sign And look, this is I mentioned all those contracts
Speaker 1: because what are they They're multi year, heavy guarantee up
Speaker 1: front deals. I'm not saying those guys aren't going to
Speaker 1: run their tails off, but they got paid. That's the
Speaker 1: deal that JK wants next year. He's looking at that
Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs four year, I guarantee it. That's the one
Speaker 1: he's circled. Four years, forty eight million bucks. That's what
Speaker 1: I can get next year if I can put together
Speaker 1: what I know I'm capable of putting together because I've
Speaker 1: already done it, done it to the tune of double
Speaker 1: digit touchdowns and you know, six yards per carry.
Speaker 2: That added motivation is huge. And he doesn't lack confidence.
Speaker 2: This is him talking about his Achilles injury.
Speaker 3: I'm one hundred percent now and it was like a
Speaker 3: walk in the park. It's like a sprained ankle. You know.
Speaker 3: It was very easy, you know, because I had the knee.
Speaker 3: The knee was pretty hard, you know, and the achilles
Speaker 3: was I would say it's easy, you know, just because
Speaker 3: that's just my mentality, and it was it was pretty
Speaker 3: easy to be so buddy.
Speaker 2: He alluded to this as well. There's a difference between
Speaker 2: him saying he's one hundred percent and the coaches he
Speaker 2: went through that in Baltimore. But the fact that we're
Speaker 2: talking about JK. Dobbs coming off an achilles injury on
Speaker 2: May second and him thinking that he's one hundred percent,
Speaker 2: that boats very well for training camp and beyond. Man.
Speaker 1: The super interesting thing for me was him talking about
Speaker 1: the knee and how he didn't injure it a second time.
Speaker 1: I was not aware. I thought it was an injury
Speaker 1: to the same knee, but he said, no, it's just
Speaker 1: scar tissue that wasn't healing right. So they had to
Speaker 1: go in and clean it out. And that was something
Speaker 1: he wanted to clarify. It's like, it wasn't a second
Speaker 1: knee injury. I started running, it didn't feel right. They
Speaker 1: took a look at it, realized there was some scar
Speaker 1: tissue that didn't look quite right, so they cleaned that
Speaker 1: up and then he came back at the end of
Speaker 1: the year and picked up, you know, right where he
Speaker 1: left off one hundred and twenty yards per game, had
Speaker 1: a big game in the playoff that they ended up
Speaker 1: losing their first playoff game and then comes back feeling like,
Speaker 1: all right, here we go, pops the Achilles and look,
Speaker 1: he's young. This is not forty year old Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: trying to come back from an achilles injury. You know.
Speaker 1: This is not Kobe Bryant, you know, in year sixteen
Speaker 1: trying to come back from an Achilles' injury. This is
Speaker 1: a young still has a giant, incredible opportunity of a
Speaker 1: career ahead of him. Body is going to heal as
Speaker 1: an old man with old bones that's got a fracture
Speaker 1: in his shoulder right now. That's driving me crazy because
Speaker 1: doesn't want to heal. You don't heal the same way
Speaker 1: when you're old. You know, you heal a lot differently
Speaker 1: when you're in Jk's position. So I'm I'm very excited
Speaker 1: about it. I really am. I think it is he
Speaker 1: can he is. I know this could be seen as
Speaker 1: as Charger bias and homer ism, but he has the
Speaker 1: potential to be the best running back in the league.
Speaker 1: That is how talented he is. He is incredibly talented.
Speaker 1: He's so explosive and powerful. If he is healthy and
Speaker 1: in this system with a commitment to the run that
Speaker 1: this coaching staff and these play callers are going to have.
Speaker 1: He has got an incredible opportunity ahead of him. And
Speaker 1: it's why we'd been talking about it for months. This
Speaker 1: is the guy you want to take a flyer on.
Speaker 1: I know they're not going to spend big in free agency,
Speaker 1: and this was all when a salary cap situation was
Speaker 1: a mess. They didn't have any money, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: this guy makes too much sense to take the flyer
Speaker 1: on it. I'm just so over the top that they did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so pencil those as in. I feel like for
Speaker 2: running back one and two right now and interchangeable. But
Speaker 2: the rest of the running back room, Isaiah Spiller still
Speaker 2: a young guy. Bunny Videll Is it Videll?
Speaker 1: It's Videll so mistake. I even put the comment on
Speaker 1: the YouTube. I felt terrible. I have a friend I
Speaker 1: grew up with named Vidal Singh, so I think either
Speaker 1: that or Vidal sas Soon because I'm old. But you
Speaker 1: see v I d A L and Vidal exactly. I
Speaker 1: don't have any vod elsa Sooner and I got the
Speaker 1: dry look going right now. But so going back and
Speaker 1: watching and actually listening to those highlights because you know me,
Speaker 1: I can't possibly stomach listening to other play by play
Speaker 1: guys who are so much better than I am. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so everybody talked called him videl which VI I d
Speaker 1: A L. But Videll kamani Videll. Whatever he wants it
Speaker 1: to be is what it's going to be unless you're
Speaker 1: Dan gaed Zurich, because you don't get to be Dan
Speaker 1: gaed Zurich for four years at UCLA and then get
Speaker 1: to the Bucks and all of a sudden your dads
Speaker 1: reached that I can't do all right. I didn't figure
Speaker 1: that way. That's not okay. Same with the same Monty Ball.
Speaker 1: You can't be Monty Ball it Wisconsin, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden you get to the league and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: by the way, my name is Monte. It's like it
Speaker 1: would have been nice four years ago.
Speaker 2: Tyrod and Tarrod, Tyrod and Torod. You know though, we
Speaker 2: had to deal with the Los Angeles for a little bit.
Speaker 2: We got that, we had to wear that. Come on, man,
Speaker 2: give me that ten years ago. Talk give me to
Speaker 2: Rod ten years ago and we're good. There's muscle memory
Speaker 2: in my brain. I feel like Buddy. I feel like
Speaker 2: Spiller is the guy that really has a lot to
Speaker 2: prove this year. Come sureman in. He's got a new
Speaker 2: coaching staff, he's got two running backs who are very
Speaker 2: familiar with the system, a guy that they drafted. So
Speaker 2: Spiller a lot to try to prove this offseason in
Speaker 2: training camp to make this team.
Speaker 1: And it sucks for him because he should have had opportunities.
Speaker 1: It's inexcusable that the last coaching staff did not give
Speaker 1: him opportunities last year when the season was lost. The
Speaker 1: year before in Week eighteen, instead of running Austin Eckler
Speaker 1: and playing Mike Williams who gets a back injury when
Speaker 1: the game didn't count, that should have been an Isaiah
Speaker 1: Spiller game. Give him every carry and let's see what
Speaker 1: he's got instead of giving him one or two or
Speaker 1: four or five here and there. So he is someone
Speaker 1: that should fit into what Jim Harbaugh wants to do.
Speaker 1: He is a big back and he is still young,
Speaker 1: so that there is no reason to think that this
Speaker 1: running back room is settled. It looks like it is,
Speaker 1: especially with the style of running that Kamani Videll has.
Speaker 1: You know, he's small, he's powerful, he's thick like it.
Speaker 1: It looks like a fit. And remember, I think the
Speaker 1: interesting thing is going to be where is Ben Mason?
Speaker 1: Is Ben Mason A is he a tight end? Because
Speaker 1: they said he's going to be doing ever so like,
Speaker 1: is that part of the tight end room? And now
Speaker 1: we're talking about Disley Hurst Mason and then it's a
Speaker 1: fight for that fourth tight end with Stone, Smart and Parham.
Speaker 1: And that allows there to be four running backs or
Speaker 1: is it three running backs a full back? And and
Speaker 1: that's where Mason fits in because you still can only
Speaker 1: carry fifty three players. And exactly it's it's hard to
Speaker 1: imagine four running backs and Ben Mason if he's considered
Speaker 1: a full back.
Speaker 2: And then wide receiver is a whole nother you know,
Speaker 2: equation with is Darius Davis just a kick return or
Speaker 2: punt return solely versus you know, you know, do you
Speaker 2: carry six wide receivers? We'll get into the wide receivers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw there are a lot of questions about that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, a lot of wide receiver questions.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: One of the things that I think fans took note
Speaker 2: of when Joe Alt was drafted was coach Harball's comments
Speaker 2: about the offensive line, and first off, I love that
Speaker 2: he called them all offensive weapons, like we consider offensive
Speaker 2: lineman weapons. But he said the best five are going
Speaker 2: to play, and he mentioned Trey Pipkins as being right
Speaker 2: now one of the best five on the team. So
Speaker 2: he confirmed for Shaw Slater's going to be left tackle.
Speaker 2: We will just put Joe alt at right tackle right now,
Speaker 2: so Trey Pipkins by default.
Speaker 1: And put Zion Johnson at left guard, and we put yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: and Bradley Boseman at center. It's like, you know those
Speaker 1: that that is all there is one position up for grabs.
Speaker 1: It feels like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Trey Pipkins Jamari Sawyer right now probably the
Speaker 2: two competing for that. Coach Devlin talked about Trey Pipkins
Speaker 2: and just the qualities that he sees in him as
Speaker 2: a player.
Speaker 3: Maybe he's big, he's athletic, I mean, you know, he's
Speaker 3: a people mover what I've seen on tape.
Speaker 1: He's smart.
Speaker 2: So Butdy's interesting because you know, listen, we've seen Trey
Speaker 2: develop as a third round pick all the way back
Speaker 2: in twenty nineteen, and this could be a move for
Speaker 2: him for the better. Frankly, stay on the offensive line
Speaker 2: as a starter potentially a lot of time before trading camp.
Speaker 2: But maybe Trey moving inside could be a thing.
Speaker 1: Like we said, it's the one spot on the offensive
Speaker 1: line it is completely up for. And whether that's fair
Speaker 1: to Jamari Sawyer or not, he Jamari's fine because he
Speaker 1: is He's versatile right, he can play left, right tackle,
Speaker 1: he can play left right guard. So you need to
Speaker 1: have someone like that on your roster because injuries happen.
Speaker 1: So but is he one of the five best Because
Speaker 1: of the situation that they didn't draft the center, they
Speaker 1: do have an undrafted free agent and Bucky Williams, who
Speaker 1: played a couple of years at DJ's alma mater, happy
Speaker 1: state that that's an all Sun Belt performer. I don't
Speaker 1: quite know, you know what he should actually just kind
Speaker 1: of click on his profile to see what his size is,
Speaker 1: six two three or four. So Bozeman's big. I think
Speaker 1: that's the one thing. And he said it there right,
Speaker 1: that Trey is. You know, you're talking about someone who's
Speaker 1: six foot six, three hundred fifteen to three hundred twenty pounds,
Speaker 1: not necessarily built like a guard. Those guys tend to
Speaker 1: be a little bit smaller, a little bit year. You know,
Speaker 1: for context, zion six just about six three a little
Speaker 1: over six two six two and a half three hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty pounds. You're you're talking about a little more compact,
Speaker 1: little bit more of a people mover as opposed to
Speaker 1: that length to use your punch in your reach to
Speaker 1: keep those edge rushers off of you. So will it work?
Speaker 1: I don't know. But the one thing is like when
Speaker 1: you look at Bozeman, he is he is not your
Speaker 1: average center Boseman six ' five, you know, he is
Speaker 1: six five, three hundred and twenty. And that was in
Speaker 1: talking to some of the coaches about, hey, how's this senate?
Speaker 1: Are you guys going? And this was before the draft.
Speaker 1: I was asking about, you know, how how much is
Speaker 1: center and play? What does the Bozman signing mean? Is
Speaker 1: that just sort of the will clap position to have
Speaker 1: that backup and you're going to find a center out
Speaker 1: there kind of thing. And you know, basically what I
Speaker 1: was told is essentially what you heard about Trey. He's
Speaker 1: a big dude and he can move forward. So we
Speaker 1: got a we got to shift our that the paradigm
Speaker 1: has shifted on the offensive line for the Chargers. It's
Speaker 1: no longer going back. It's going forward and for the
Speaker 1: majority of the time. So that's something to remember is
Speaker 1: that the pass pro is going to be, in the
Speaker 1: hopes of the coaching staff, a lot easier for these
Speaker 1: guys because they're going to be so dominant running the
Speaker 1: ball and you're not going to have like we've seen
Speaker 1: for the last seven years, guys with their ears pinned
Speaker 1: back coming after you and and just pass, rush, pass
Speaker 1: or a stack in the box. Don't honor the run,
Speaker 1: don't think you can run it, because you can't. That's
Speaker 1: going to change, and I think that's where the whole
Speaker 1: Are you going to be all right in pass pro?
Speaker 1: At guard when they're running all these stunts inside and
Speaker 1: you're trying to keep up with it. And that was
Speaker 1: the other thing that coach said about Trey. He's very smart.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about guard is you've got a lot
Speaker 1: of stunts happening. You've got to keep track of where
Speaker 1: all these guys are going. Are you teaming up with
Speaker 1: the tackle, you're teaming up with the center where your
Speaker 1: double team. So it's a much different position for Trey.
Speaker 1: But he's big, he's strong, and as they said, he's smart.
Speaker 1: So there's no reason to think he can't he can't
Speaker 1: pull it off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And on the other side, Zion and coach Devil
Speaker 2: had some nice things to say about Zionists too, Zion
Speaker 2: as well. I think it comes down to coaching too money.
Speaker 2: Just this staff is completely different from what we've seen
Speaker 2: the last few years in terms of what they want
Speaker 2: to do, how they want to do it, and coaching
Speaker 2: is going to be a big deal. And like you said,
Speaker 2: the paradigm has shifted across the offensive line. So Trey
Speaker 2: Pipkins is a guard. Hey man, I'm for it if
Speaker 2: it works. Kurt McIntosh asks where will alt start? We
Speaker 2: think right tackle, and then he asked about Pipkins. You
Speaker 2: just answered that question. Let's get into some of them
Speaker 2: we have.
Speaker 1: I would say, by the way I'm looking, don't be
Speaker 1: surprised post June first with Cutts. As teams are trying
Speaker 1: to put their fifty three together, do not be surprised
Speaker 1: if there's another guard that's brought in. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: the availables right now. You got Dalton Reisner, Justin Pugh
Speaker 1: Vytai is out there. You've got guys that have played
Speaker 1: a lot, and I think the question that you then
Speaker 1: why at Davis The question you have to ask is
Speaker 1: the old bill parcells. Are they d i's or are
Speaker 1: they viable players? Are they development inhibitors? You know, so
Speaker 1: you can't get your young guys out there that are
Speaker 1: probably better, but you just trust a vet because the
Speaker 1: vet's done it. But maybe they're not as good as
Speaker 1: a player and you'll never know now the young player
Speaker 1: can't get on the field sort of thing, or you know,
Speaker 1: and that would be like in the case of Slater.
Speaker 1: Or are they legitimately better options so that these none
Speaker 1: of even the wide receiver room that now has seven players,
Speaker 1: not including the undrafted free agents, they're still look, we
Speaker 1: just read it right, and we'll get to it, I know,
Speaker 1: but Tyler Boyd was just in for a visit, so
Speaker 1: they're still looking.
Speaker 2: Yep. Here, This is a good question that goes right
Speaker 2: into the offensive line. Most likely UDFA to make the
Speaker 2: roster and the first guy that stuck out to be money.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure you looked at this list, but Carson
Speaker 2: Barhard from Michigan, the Guard, somebody that Jim Harbond knows
Speaker 2: very well. Just another competitive player that's familiar with horrorball. Uh,
Speaker 2: And I think that interior there's gonna be a lot
Speaker 2: of good competition across, and we know that injuries occur
Speaker 2: in the NFL and you need to have the requisite
Speaker 2: depth at these positions. You mentioned Jamaris Sawyer and his versatility,
Speaker 2: the ability to play tackle, having a guy like Joe
Speaker 2: Alt who could step in at left tackle if need be,
Speaker 2: Trey Pipkins who could if he's a guard, he could
Speaker 2: play right tackle on a pinch. So the interior of
Speaker 2: the offensive line. We heard coach Harball talk about Jordan
Speaker 2: McFadden as a potential center. That's another guy that you
Speaker 2: could just add to the competition. But Bardheart from Michigan,
Speaker 2: that was the one name that stood out to me.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you have a couple as well.
Speaker 1: For me, there's one that that is one and one
Speaker 1: A would be a Keen Den just because of the
Speaker 1: safety room and that they did not draft the safety
Speaker 1: and that they you know in ach, you know there's
Speaker 1: a j. Finley, But I don't know what the future
Speaker 1: of J. T. Woods is and can this coaching staff
Speaker 1: bring out of him what we saw at Baylor and
Speaker 1: made him a third round pick. So that's just when
Speaker 1: you look at the cornerback room. The secondary room still
Speaker 1: needs some help. Even with Tarheed Still and cam Hart.
Speaker 1: They added to Robert Kennedy, Thomas Harper, those guys were added.
Speaker 1: But to me, it's that safety room that that I'd
Speaker 1: keep an eye on, so Jalen Phillips, but specifically a
Speaker 1: Keen Dent. That free safety is the one that I
Speaker 1: would probably circle. Is just an opportunity, right, that opportunity
Speaker 1: is there for him to snatch up one of the fifty.
Speaker 2: Three Alexavia question mark safety depth. So you just addressed that.
Speaker 2: But but how about out there?
Speaker 1: See who's still out there? By the way, let me see.
Speaker 2: A guy like Justin Simmons is still out there.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's got the big one, but
Speaker 1: never know, you know, if you can, if he if
Speaker 1: he likes what Jesse Minner and Coach Harbaugh or pitching
Speaker 1: him because he can't find that deal that's going to
Speaker 1: pay him. What do you think he's worth? What he
Speaker 1: thinks he's worth. Play a year, come on over, play
Speaker 1: a year and go on out and make a bunch
Speaker 1: of money. Yeah, Simmons is out there, Eddie Jackson, Marcus
Speaker 1: may Kwandray Diggs. There's still Jamal Adams. We know that's
Speaker 1: more of a box safety obviously, which is where Derwin's
Speaker 1: gonna probably play most of the time. T Tashan Gibson,
Speaker 1: I mean there's still a lot of safeties out there,
Speaker 1: Adrian Amos, John Johnson, Kean O'Neill. So yeah, I mean there's,
Speaker 1: like we said, there's still second wave of free and
Speaker 1: that's something that that Jorties had mentioned to us as well,
Speaker 1: that yeah, there's we're signing guys, There's still going to
Speaker 1: be free agents that are added to this team. That's
Speaker 1: that's still happening. So the draft is one piece, the
Speaker 1: undrafted free agents is another, and there are still going
Speaker 1: to be veterans that are signed that we have had
Speaker 1: our eyes on that that will be part of this
Speaker 1: team when the twenty twenty four campaign starts.
Speaker 2: All right, flock with me one, two three. I know
Speaker 2: hindsight twenty twenty, But hypothetically, why didn't we do like
Speaker 2: Arizona and if tackle was such a big issue for
Speaker 2: us to address that via free agency or trade before
Speaker 2: the draft, leaving us to take neighbors at five or
Speaker 2: trade back for let's say Rome or a top corner.
Speaker 2: Thanks guys, love the show.
Speaker 1: Because you can't. Those players aren't available. That's why I
Speaker 1: mean tackles. Tackles are different. They're even more different than
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Tackles never I mean, never hit the market. Laramie.
Speaker 1: Remember Laramie Tunsel was traded for two months an offensive
Speaker 1: tackle from Miami to Houston. That's how badly Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: needed to solve that problem. Now you might be able to.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say quick, I'm sorry, buddy. Trent Williams.
Speaker 2: It was such a disaster in Washington that he like
Speaker 2: he had to get out of there.
Speaker 1: So like, that's such a that's a trade's and I
Speaker 1: know he wrote trade in there, but it's so rarely happens.
Speaker 1: So yes, if you're trading for a tackle, you don't
Speaker 1: have your one, it's gone, it's it's it's totally gone.
Speaker 1: And so I'm looking like extension. Uh yes, Jonah Williams,
Speaker 1: he's good, he's good. If he was great, Cincinnati would
Speaker 1: have never let him go if he was great. Same
Speaker 1: thing with Orlando Brown. Orlando Brown was they the Chiefs
Speaker 1: traded a one for him and did not want to
Speaker 1: pay him because he wasn't great, and tackles want money
Speaker 1: for just being average. That pays them as though they're great.
Speaker 1: That's what the problem with that that market is is.
Speaker 1: And going through like lumin Or signed a two year,
Speaker 1: fourteen million dollar deal with the Giants. We've seen enough
Speaker 1: of that guy to know, come on, man, like that's
Speaker 1: so that's why you draft tackles. Tackles. Elite tackles do
Speaker 1: not hit the free agent market. Rashaun Slater just had
Speaker 1: his fifty year option picked up. He's going to get paid.
Speaker 1: He's going to get the Pina Suol deal. That's that's
Speaker 1: going to happen before the start of the season.
Speaker 2: Plus Joe Alt's almost six nineties, twenty one years old,
Speaker 2: and I would argue it's not even really an argument.
Speaker 2: I think he's better than any potential tackle you could
Speaker 2: have traded for or not even free agency. And it's
Speaker 2: not even close. It's not even close.
Speaker 1: And the money you're gonna pay m six million bucks
Speaker 1: a year not not you know, Joona Williams got fifteen
Speaker 1: million dollars a year to be average. Joel's going to
Speaker 1: get six million to be exceptional, we think, and.
Speaker 2: Muddy, I don't want to put Eddie words in flock
Speaker 2: with me one, two, three's mouth. But I think it
Speaker 2: just goes back to the wide receiver. You know, they
Speaker 2: roam and neighbors. I do think fans still were wondering, like, man,
Speaker 2: we could have got neighbors, who could have got Rome?
Speaker 2: But again it goes to the example of would you
Speaker 2: rather get a tackle in the second round and it
Speaker 2: got in Rome or neighbors? No, because there was no
Speaker 2: there's no tackles available. You got the best possible tackle.
Speaker 2: And in my mind, a wide receiver who's hand to
Speaker 2: glow fit for Justin Herbert, someone that can get open,
Speaker 2: who could separate, who's an exceptional route runner, perhaps the
Speaker 2: best route runner in the draft, and you plug him
Speaker 2: into this offense.
Speaker 1: Right, We've just seen it too often we have, and
Speaker 1: I know those three and I believe in those three.
Speaker 1: I think they're all going to be incredible wide receivers
Speaker 1: for a long time franchise, you know, franchise changing wide receivers,
Speaker 1: and a Dune's a Neighbors and Harrison. I believe that. However,
Speaker 1: year in and year out, we see it. You know,
Speaker 1: whether it's just take your pick, if it's DK metcalf,
Speaker 1: aj Brown, you know, the the later receivers raised that
Speaker 1: Rashid Rice last year. I believe that Lad McConkie is
Speaker 1: a first round talent wide receiver. It will not not
Speaker 1: only will it not surprise me, part of me expects
Speaker 1: it that he is going to lead rookies in receptions.
Speaker 1: I believe that I think he's I think there is
Speaker 1: a very good chance that he could end up just
Speaker 1: because of the way he fits with how this offense
Speaker 1: is going to operate. I could totally see him leading
Speaker 1: all rookies. And it's just the same way that Puka
Speaker 1: Nakua fit. He just Puka landed in the perfect place
Speaker 1: for him the way that they wanted to use him
Speaker 1: the offensive scheme, and that was and the fact that
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup was hurt so he became a one Like
Speaker 1: there's just I think still being fixated on the whole
Speaker 1: neighbors thing is, Look, it's not going to change that
Speaker 1: Joe Walt is a charger like it's that there's not
Speaker 1: going to be a trade between these two teams that
Speaker 1: somehow brings neighbors here. So trying to relitigate how they
Speaker 1: should have drafted or what they should have done does
Speaker 1: you no good because if you're right, You're not gonna
Speaker 1: want to You don't want to be right, Jorge. If
Speaker 1: you're a Charge fan, you don't want to be right
Speaker 1: about this. You don't want to have the I told
Speaker 1: you So there's that's that that does nobody any good.
Speaker 1: What you want is Joe Walt to be the best
Speaker 1: right tackle. He and Slater to be the rest the
Speaker 1: best tackle tandem in football, and say, yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: That's that's the way they wanted to build this team.
Speaker 1: And it makes sense to have two dominant tackles because
Speaker 1: you can do a lot of damage with that. Just
Speaker 1: look at what Detroit did.
Speaker 2: Neighbors Daniel Jones and Drew Locke throwing him the football.
Speaker 2: Roma dun Day probably entering camp is the number three
Speaker 2: option behind Keenan Sure and DJ Moore. You look at
Speaker 2: the other wide receivers drafted in the first round, there's
Speaker 2: guys that are ahead of them. I think Marvin Harrison
Speaker 2: the only exception to Lad mccaukeey being like a guy
Speaker 2: who's going to catch like probably seventy five to eighty balls.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's gonna have a big year. He's gonna have
Speaker 1: I hate saying this, but I just I feel like
Speaker 1: I have to and I don't have to, but I
Speaker 1: just feel like I want to say. And I'll what
Speaker 1: alert freezing cold takes. God knows. I'm popular over there
Speaker 1: with one particular position I took a while ago. But
Speaker 1: I did not like the body language of the League neighbors.
Speaker 1: I just didn't like it. Man, I didn't like his demeanor.
Speaker 1: I didn't like the way he was. He seemed very
Speaker 1: poudy to me. He seemed poudy when he got picked
Speaker 1: by the Giants. He seemed dispassionate and indifferent at the presser.
Speaker 1: I don't want that. And what was he doing when
Speaker 1: he was out here? What was the biggest thing that
Speaker 1: happened for Elie neighbors when he was out here shopping
Speaker 1: for houses?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, thank you, no thank you? Uh sorry, just not
Speaker 1: interested in you? Not interested. I keep going back to
Speaker 1: the same phrase that that Jim Harbaugh shared. What's good
Speaker 1: for the hive is good for the bee. And I
Speaker 1: don't think he's a what's good for the hive guy,
Speaker 1: So not not in my interpretation of the way he
Speaker 1: has behaved since being selected by the Giants. So no,
Speaker 1: thank you. I'll take Joe alt Over that guy eight
Speaker 1: days a week and twice on Sunday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh this though you don't have to touch it.
Speaker 1: It's okay, I'll wear it. I'll wear it.
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, there's no doubt if you
Speaker 2: saw Malague neighbors come out of the van to talk
Speaker 2: to the GM of the head coach, ridiculous like, like
Speaker 2: he didn't look like he was that happy to be there.
Speaker 2: And when they asked him about I told I told
Speaker 2: you this a couple of weeks ago on the pot
Speaker 2: during the combine, he said they got to fix that
Speaker 2: quarterback situation in New York. He said that, like preemptively
Speaker 2: before it even was a thing, that he was going
Speaker 2: to be drafted to the Giants. So yeah, that that
Speaker 2: felt like a weird situation, like he wanted to be
Speaker 2: maybe a pick before in LA.
Speaker 1: Or somewhere else, and for what I believe was the
Speaker 1: wrong reasons. Yeah, So I'm good. I'm I'm I'm beyond
Speaker 1: happy with with all. See him get out of that
Speaker 1: suv and tower over Jim Harbaugh, former starting quarterback in
Speaker 1: the NFL, made him look like a child. Great, sign
Speaker 1: me up. Let's go.
Speaker 2: Speaking to the wide receivers room.
Speaker 1: Chris G.
Speaker 2: And there's there's a lot of these questions, so maybe
Speaker 2: we can use this as the as the example. How
Speaker 2: do you think the wide receiver room will shake out
Speaker 2: between who makes the roster and how many? Especially if
Speaker 2: they add a vet? Last episode, I thought it was
Speaker 2: interesting when Money suggests that Davis could be on the bubble.
Speaker 2: You go for a brother and then I'll pick up.
Speaker 1: With Darius Davis. Sorry, my phone was exploding for my daughter.
Speaker 1: Wanted to make sure it was no emergency. She's just
Speaker 1: harassing me, so give that to me again. I'm sorry, Chris.
Speaker 1: That is my great mistake. I ignore my phone unless
Speaker 1: it's one of the kids because it's on Do not Disturb,
Speaker 1: but it just came through.
Speaker 2: The kids take priority, Chris G. How do you think
Speaker 2: the wide receiver room will shake out between who makes
Speaker 2: the roster and how many? Especially if they add a vet?
Speaker 2: Last episode, I thought it was interesting when Money suggested
Speaker 2: Davis could be on the bubble.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I look, there's a lot of bodies in there,
Speaker 1: and we believe in those seventh round picks, and I
Speaker 1: think Brandon Rice can be special. Cornelius Johnson fits in
Speaker 1: with exactly how Jim Harbaugh wants his wide receivers to
Speaker 1: work in tandem with the offense as a whole. He's
Speaker 1: a heck of a blocking wide receiver and a good
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty guy in a red zone target, a
Speaker 1: big bodied wide receiver. So you get those two with
Speaker 1: Quinton and Joshua and obviously mcconkee, and now you're at five,
Speaker 1: you know. So that's that's where the Darius Davis part
Speaker 1: becomes interesting because I don't know, for a team that's
Speaker 1: that's probably going to be one of the most run
Speaker 1: heavy teams in the NFL. I don't I don't imagine
Speaker 1: you're carrying more than five receivers. So it it certainly
Speaker 1: gets interesting, and it's it's a but now that can
Speaker 1: change because of what's happening with the kickoff rule, where
Speaker 1: it does make sense to designate one spot as a
Speaker 1: returner because you're going to go from fifteen percent kickoffs
Speaker 1: return to ninety percent kickoffs returned, and you want that explosiveness,
Speaker 1: and do you want to expose lad McConkie to you know,
Speaker 1: do you want to expose him to the hits on
Speaker 1: the returns?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 1: So that's that's the thing. It's is Palmer john to me,
Speaker 1: Palmer Johnston, Mconkee Rice, I think are locks. And then
Speaker 1: it probably comes down to Cornelius Johnson. And what if
Speaker 1: they signed Tyler Boyd he was just out here for
Speaker 1: a visit. What if they signed DJ Shark, who was
Speaker 1: just out here for a visit. I could totally see
Speaker 1: them wanting to add a veteran to this group as well.
Speaker 1: Boyd was majority slot, but I think the Shark, the
Speaker 1: z Jones, those outside receivers are certain. The guys that
Speaker 1: play predominantly on the outside, those ones are interesting. And
Speaker 1: we know they like plucking guys from Carolina that were
Speaker 1: in miserable situations. So they already got aiden Hurst and
Speaker 1: Bradley Boseman, why not DJ Shark as well? So that'll
Speaker 1: be interesting because they're not going to carry six wide receivers.
Speaker 1: I just don't. They could carry five and a returner,
Speaker 1: but I would be floored if they're committing six of
Speaker 1: the fifty three to that position.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the beauty of this conversation is that they don't
Speaker 2: have to make a decision about how many wide receivers
Speaker 2: and who it's going to be until late August. So
Speaker 2: a competition, competition, competition. Like I'm on the record, I
Speaker 2: think they absolutely need to add a veteran because I
Speaker 2: don't think Cornelius and Brendan should be the only wide
Speaker 2: receivers pushing Quentin and Joshua. Like I do think you
Speaker 2: need a veteran in there to to just have the
Speaker 2: wide receiver room a little bit more complete in terms
Speaker 2: of competition, like this is what Jim Harball wants. And
Speaker 2: if DJ Shark is out there, Tyler Boyd shoot even
Speaker 2: I mean Odell was in Baltimore last year. I don't
Speaker 2: know if Odell's going to Miami or not, but I
Speaker 2: throw him in there, you know, throw in another guy MVS.
Speaker 2: I know he dropped some balls in Kansas City. He
Speaker 2: also made some clutch plays for Kansas City. So I
Speaker 2: would one hundred percent add another veteran wide receiver to
Speaker 2: this room. And I think the relationship between Ryan Ficken
Speaker 2: and Darius Davis. Keep in mind, for as poorly as
Speaker 2: last year went across the board, the two highlights from
Speaker 2: the draft class two and Darius Davis the second TCU
Speaker 2: wide receiver drafted. He was electric last year. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I remember the one game against Vegas Money at home
Speaker 2: where first series of the game, he had like a
Speaker 2: fifty yard run. So who's to say, like Greg Roman
Speaker 2: can't find a role for him on the offense as well.
Speaker 2: So you know, as we sit here in May, I
Speaker 2: know that Jim Harball is going to make sure that
Speaker 2: everybody feels a little bit uncomfortable about where they stand
Speaker 2: on the team in terms of am I gonna make it?
Speaker 2: Am I gonna be a starter? Am I going to
Speaker 2: be a backup? And that's how it should be. So
Speaker 2: add another veteran, and you know, I don't know I
Speaker 2: think Darius Davis makes the team, though I think.
Speaker 1: I do too. I think I think returners are too
Speaker 1: valuable now. But to me, I just I don't know.
Speaker 1: You know, you you assume all the draft picks are
Speaker 1: gonna make it. That's what you typically assume. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you know that's that's sort of where where the conversation
Speaker 1: comes in. All right, well, why did you use a
Speaker 1: draft pick when you need depth that safety, you need
Speaker 1: depth that You still need depth at corner, you still
Speaker 1: need depth at defensive tackle. You didn't take an edge
Speaker 1: or you know, you didn't take an edge and you
Speaker 1: took a receiver there, So you don't expect him not
Speaker 1: to make the team. You know, to me and Cornelie,
Speaker 1: Johnson's a little bit different than Brendan Rice. Brennan Rice.
Speaker 1: It's just crazy that he fell. So you assume he's
Speaker 1: going to perform like a third or a fourth rounder
Speaker 1: in training camp when he shows up and you're just
Speaker 1: scratching your head as to why did this guy fall
Speaker 1: to the seventh round. So that's sort of why I'm
Speaker 1: projecting him as a lock even though he was taken
Speaker 1: in the seventh. So, yeah, it's a great problem to have,
Speaker 1: isn't it Before? This is the worst wide receiver room
Speaker 1: in the league. What are they doing to Justin Herbert?
Speaker 1: Now we feel a lot better about it, and we're
Speaker 1: talking to my guys that have never taken a snap
Speaker 1: in Maconkie and Rice joining Palmer and Johnston. But I'm
Speaker 1: with you, I do think that that a veteran's on
Speaker 1: his way. I'd be very surprised as I'm going through
Speaker 1: the wide receivers and I mentioned you mentioned Beckham, I've
Speaker 1: talked about Michael Thomas repeated that dude's a big, willing
Speaker 1: to block, you know, incredible hands receiver that that would
Speaker 1: make sense the like we said, Jay Jones, DJ Shark,
Speaker 1: marquezvel Des Scantling, just to have that big body X
Speaker 1: that you can put out there, is comfortable in press
Speaker 1: as fast as all get out. Even though the production
Speaker 1: wasn't really there with the Chiefs, He's still a threat
Speaker 1: and still made huge catches in big games because he's
Speaker 1: he's able to shake free, he's got a huge frame,
Speaker 1: he's he's good at catching the ball. And like, that's
Speaker 1: another one that I could totally see. I think of
Speaker 1: all of them as I'm looking at him now. Thank
Speaker 1: you Warren Sharp for posting these so I can keep
Speaker 1: track of them. Yeah, Boyd Beckham, Thomas Jones, marcusvel Des Scantling,
Speaker 1: DJ Shark, I think any of those makes sense. And
Speaker 1: you're gonna get him at a bargain rate.
Speaker 2: Yep. And hey, that's why they have a practice squad
Speaker 2: too for some of these seventh row picks. If you know,
Speaker 2: if they clear, if you put them right through, yep.
Speaker 2: Uh So, a lot of questions about the wide receivers
Speaker 2: in free agency. Mister Bolt asked, uh, do you think
Speaker 2: the team is finalized for next season?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, even Lightning McQueen fan, are the charges more likely?
Speaker 2: To add a free agent signing to the quarterback corner sorry,
Speaker 2: cornerback or wide receiver room. We talked about wide receiver,
Speaker 2: what about corner.
Speaker 1: Money corner I think is number one that that that
Speaker 1: room still needs a lot of help to.
Speaker 2: Any names, any names that stick out to you. Xavi
Speaker 2: and Howard is the one name that.
Speaker 1: Still Yeah, that's again it's it's sort of the old
Speaker 1: like we said that the Bill Parcells, you know, development
Speaker 1: inhibitor is is it is it good to have Xavi
Speaker 1: and Howard or would you rather have tar he still
Speaker 1: out there playing nickel? So that's that's what you've got
Speaker 1: to figure out. How do these guys fit. Do you
Speaker 1: expect them to be able to pick up on on
Speaker 1: a scheme? It's a complicated scheme, but I would assume
Speaker 1: everybody's learning at the same time. So it's it's the
Speaker 1: perfect time to get you know, these corners in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Dori Jackson, Stefan Gilmour, it's a very smart corner. Pat Peterson,
Speaker 1: who's this? J C. Jackson? Don't know who that is?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's he's already had a he's already had
Speaker 2: a stint in Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Los Angeles, there's a reason why they're still on
Speaker 1: the market, But I would expect them. I would expect,
Speaker 1: like we've we talked about safeties, I think safety and corner.
Speaker 1: I'd be really really surprised if one wasn't added from
Speaker 1: each of those groups. And we already talked about the
Speaker 1: safeties and Eddie Jackson, Justin Simmons, Marcus May, Michael Hyde,
Speaker 1: Quandary Diggs, Jamal and there's a lot of safeties out there.
Speaker 2: Uh, this is a great question from Noami Money. In
Speaker 2: previous pictures, DJ Derwin James was wearing the green dot.
Speaker 2: Does this continue through the season or is there Eddie
Speaker 2: validity to the rumors saying Junior Colson will wear it
Speaker 2: even as a rookie. Time will tell, obviously with you
Speaker 2: Colson and how he picks up a defense that he
Speaker 2: already knows, how he picks it up at the pro level.
Speaker 2: But one of the things that we talked about for
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, Money was just how much
Speaker 2: was on Turbin's plate in Brandon Saley's scheme and how
Speaker 2: it maybe bogged him down a little bit, Like, you know,
Speaker 2: if this is something where he has to learn a
Speaker 2: new defense and call the plays Hey, we know he
Speaker 2: can do it, but is that something you want at
Speaker 2: at Durbin or do you want to kind of use
Speaker 2: him in a different way. Time's gonna tell.
Speaker 1: With all this. To me, it's a question of what
Speaker 1: you just said, how are you going to use him?
Speaker 1: Is he going to be all over the field? Is
Speaker 1: he going to be the strong safety? Is he going
Speaker 1: to be the nickel corner? Is he if he's settled
Speaker 1: into one spot and he's not moving all over the
Speaker 1: place going from edge rusher to outside linebacker to strong
Speaker 1: safety to outside corner to slot corner to free safety.
Speaker 1: If he's just settled in one place, then yeah, it
Speaker 1: makes sense to give them the green dot. But if
Speaker 1: you're constantly moving around him, or he's got to keep
Speaker 1: moving around and identify what his responsibilities are for that
Speaker 1: particular play because he's now in a different part of
Speaker 1: the field than I don't think it makes as much sense.
Speaker 1: It's just it's too easy. With Colson, he was the
Speaker 1: captain of the defense. He was quarterback of the defense
Speaker 1: at Michigan. It was the best defense in the nation
Speaker 1: every year that he was out there, someone that coach
Speaker 1: McDonald said was the best player on the team the
Speaker 1: year that he had Aiden Hutchinson on his defense, so
Speaker 1: we know what they thought of him at Michigan, and
Speaker 1: clearly he knows the defense better than anyone on the
Speaker 1: Chargers right now. He knows where everyone's supposed to be
Speaker 1: because he's the guy that got everybody lined up, and
Speaker 1: I firmly believe he's going to be out there. To me,
Speaker 1: the question is who's going to be out there with them?
Speaker 1: And boy, I sure would be excited if they break
Speaker 1: defensive huddle snap one week one and there's Dayan Henley
Speaker 1: and Junior Colson out there too. Freaking missiles can run
Speaker 1: sideline to sideline, that can get downhill in a hurry,
Speaker 1: and in the case of Colson and Henley, pack a punch.
Speaker 1: Those dudes get to you fast and they bring some thunder.
Speaker 1: That is what I'm hoping. I am hoping that in
Speaker 1: that competition, those are the two starting linebackers when when
Speaker 1: we watch this team take the field to start the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four season.
Speaker 2: This is what I love about this this type of
Speaker 2: podcast with the Q and A, we go seamless through
Speaker 2: right to another question about the linebackers. The EO guy,
Speaker 2: both Junior Colson and Dylon Henley were drafted in the
Speaker 2: third round. How much different are the two and how
Speaker 2: big is the gap between the two of these players?
Speaker 1: Thank you well, Junior Colson's bigger, you know, he's considerably bigger.
Speaker 1: Dayan's about six feet and probably in like that two
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty pound range. You know, Junior Colson's more.
Speaker 1: He's probably pushing six three to fifty, you know, too,
Speaker 1: forty five ish, So you're talking about someone who's quite
Speaker 1: a bit bigger, especially for the linebacker position. Dayon is
Speaker 1: more in that current wave of linebacking in the NFL
Speaker 1: where you're not playing guys they are too forty plus
Speaker 1: at the linebacker level. You are willing to play guys
Speaker 1: in the two twenties because of the athleticism. So that
Speaker 1: I think just that's the That's the main difference, right,
Speaker 1: is the size. Outside of that, they're both incredibly athletic,
Speaker 1: they're both incredibly fast. Just yeah, they can cover, they
Speaker 1: can get downhill, they're both aggressive. They both pack a
Speaker 1: punch when they arrive at the point of attack. So
Speaker 1: I think those are the similarities, but the differences are
Speaker 1: the size, and so that's why I think it works
Speaker 1: right where you could play juniors your middle and and
Speaker 1: that and and dayon is you know is your outs
Speaker 1: is basically with him. So junior is Junior is Kenneth
Speaker 1: Murray and and dayanas Eric Kendricks is kind of from
Speaker 1: you know, going back to last year is what we're
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we know all about We know all about
Speaker 2: Denzel packet of punch. He's one of the hardest hitters, yeah,
Speaker 2: that that we've seen come around Coast of Basa in
Speaker 2: the last five, six, seven years.
Speaker 1: And I think the thing with those two guys is
Speaker 1: they're three down linebackers with both of them because they
Speaker 1: can cover, you know, to me, Denzel is probably a
Speaker 1: little bit more of a two down you know, run
Speaker 1: stopping linebacker, you know, and and you know he's going
Speaker 1: to come off in Nickel. I that just personally that's
Speaker 1: what I would think. So that's it's a great question. So, yes,
Speaker 1: they are very similar, but they're also different just because
Speaker 1: of the.
Speaker 2: Size and the fact that he has to ask that question.
Speaker 2: Just as to the perplexing pile of Isaiah Spiller, like like,
Speaker 2: why didn't we see more of Henley last year?
Speaker 1: Right? Well, now we know he was hurt that that
Speaker 1: he had that hammy that he said he just could
Speaker 1: not shake all year, and he had an ankle that
Speaker 1: you know, they never want to tell you during the
Speaker 1: season that they're hurt, because then teams are going to
Speaker 1: come after you. But when we were at the draft
Speaker 1: party and we saw him and kind of talked about
Speaker 1: his season, he pointed out, He's like, I'm so happy
Speaker 1: I'm healthy, Like I just could not shake that hamstring
Speaker 1: injury last year and still played great on special teams.
Speaker 1: But maybe that prevented him from practicing and earning his
Speaker 1: place in the rotation. But I would have yes, considering
Speaker 1: some of the coverage issues that they had, it would
Speaker 1: have been great to see him out there.
Speaker 2: Which rookies have the best chance to earn Defensive Rookie
Speaker 2: of the Year an Offensive Rookie of the Year. This
Speaker 2: is from Bolt Gang member. Immediately, I think of the
Speaker 2: second and third round picks as being those candidates.
Speaker 1: Right. Well, yes, you have three rookie quarterbacks that are
Speaker 1: all going to start day one, well at least two
Speaker 1: of them are going to start day one in Jaden
Speaker 1: Daniels and Caleb Williams, So they are of course always
Speaker 1: going to have the leg up. But Rashaun Slater should
Speaker 1: have been in the conversation for Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 1: That was all pro left.
Speaker 2: They don't want to give it Aligneman.
Speaker 1: No, So that's why, unfortunately for all But if, but
Speaker 1: there's no reason why you know, Joe Alt should not
Speaker 1: be in that conversation. If the Chargers go from one
Speaker 1: of the worst rushing teams of the last decade to
Speaker 1: the best rushing team and they're running behind him all
Speaker 1: the time, and Justin Herbert throws for forty five hundred
Speaker 1: yards and thirty touchdowns and he doesn't give up but
Speaker 1: maybe one or two sacks, then he should be in
Speaker 1: that conversation. But yeah, the obvious the obvious answers are
Speaker 1: mconkey and Colson, and Colson, if he stayed out, he
Speaker 1: was gonna yeah, an twenty tackles.
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say, you laid out the argument
Speaker 2: for lad already and it's a good one, right right.
Speaker 2: Justin herbertsoham the football he can get open, right Colson,
Speaker 2: if he gets you know, one hundred plus tackles, you know,
Speaker 2: TfL is a pick. You know, he he could be
Speaker 2: the quarterback of the defense. And if Jason Jesse Mitzer's
Speaker 2: defense arrives like we hope it does in year one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he could be a candidate for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because there's not that. There isn't that dominant sack
Speaker 1: defensive player in this draft. There wasn't. It's why there
Speaker 1: were fourteen offensive players that went off the board before
Speaker 1: the first defensive player was taken, and a Lot to
Speaker 1: it fifteen to the Colts. So I guess Lot too
Speaker 1: could be that guy that could maybe get to nine
Speaker 1: ten sacks. I could, I could see that. So but
Speaker 1: outside of that, the corners, you know, I guess if Quinnon,
Speaker 1: Mitchell or Cooper dejen with that front in Philly, that
Speaker 1: could create opportunities for them to pick off four or
Speaker 1: five balls. You could maybe see that. But outside of that,
Speaker 1: Terry and Arnold in Detroit again solid front there with Hutchinson,
Speaker 1: that can create some opportunities for him to pile up.
Speaker 1: I don't see any reason why, and I have not
Speaker 1: looked at the odds, but I don't see any reason
Speaker 1: why that you know that Colson shouldn't be one. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll look it up right now while you find the
Speaker 1: next question. Let's see what the odds are.
Speaker 2: All right, look for the odds. And this is another
Speaker 2: kind of draft related question, Hi, Kris, look forward to
Speaker 2: the pod drop of you of money each week. Question
Speaker 2: out out side of Olt, Ladd and Junior, which of
Speaker 2: the later round players do you guys believe we'll look
Speaker 2: back in two to three years and say, quote, holy cow,
Speaker 2: what a steel he was. That's a great question. That's
Speaker 2: from Donnie.
Speaker 1: So sorry, I can't. I don't know what's going on
Speaker 1: with my brain. I can't do two things at once.
Speaker 1: Do the odds first, do the odds versut defensive Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year. I was wrong. I thought for sure
Speaker 1: he'd have you know, he'd be one of the favorites.
Speaker 1: He is not. And understand I of course spaced on
Speaker 1: a handful of them. So he is at plus four thousand.
Speaker 1: I would get on that if I were you people,
Speaker 1: why not throw something at that? Throw a hundred bucks
Speaker 1: to win four grand on Junior Colson rolling the dice
Speaker 1: that he's going to be the starting mike and pile
Speaker 1: up a ton of tackles, a couple of sacks, maybe
Speaker 1: an interception or two. But you've got Dallas Turner on
Speaker 1: Minnesota at plus five hundred lat two plus six fifty,
Speaker 1: and then I forgot about the rams taking both verse
Speaker 1: and fisk verse to them versus powerful. Yeah, and when
Speaker 1: you got young and on the interior push and you've
Speaker 1: got a chance to get double digit sacks. So he's
Speaker 1: at plus one thousand. After that it's Quinnon, Mitchell and
Speaker 1: Terry and Arnold, and I also forgot about Byron Murphy
Speaker 1: and Seattle who could do some damage from the inside.
Speaker 1: But still plus four thousand. Man, I can't not allowed to,
Speaker 1: but uh, you folks, go ahead, man get after it.
Speaker 1: Throw semaup something on that due offense.
Speaker 2: Is Lad there?
Speaker 1: Ladd is there? Yeah? So Lad is at plus thirty
Speaker 1: five hundred, and it's you know, Caleb Williams, Marvin Harrison,
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels, JJ McCarthy. So that's all the quarterbacks. It's
Speaker 1: going to be really hard to overcome the quarterbacks because
Speaker 1: one of them is going to be great or at
Speaker 1: least very good. When when you know, so just like
Speaker 1: last year, the idea that Pook and Akua did not
Speaker 1: win it because CJ. Straw was so good like, but
Speaker 1: Puka basically had the greatest wide receiver rookie season we'd
Speaker 1: ever seen. And he still couldn't win it because there's
Speaker 1: always going to be a quarterback probably that that raises
Speaker 1: his hand. All right, let's answer this question you again,
Speaker 1: my mistake, let me get it again.
Speaker 2: Uh, outside of old Ladden Junior, which of the later
Speaker 2: round picks, you guys believe we will look back at
Speaker 2: two to three years to say, holy cow, what a
Speaker 2: steel he was.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the guy that I didn't know
Speaker 1: and have gotten to know now since we did the
Speaker 1: pot on Sunday, and that's Tar. He's still I think
Speaker 1: he could end up being there starting nickel. He's a
Speaker 1: good looking player, man, So that's that's the one to
Speaker 1: me that I think a boy Bee is more of
Speaker 1: a even though we had the production, the sack production,
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna end up being more of a
Speaker 1: point of attack, free up the linebackers type of linemen.
Speaker 1: So I don't think you're going to see a lot
Speaker 1: of the the eye popping box score production from him.
Speaker 1: But he still is a good looking player now, man,
Speaker 1: he's I'm I'm sorry. I think he could win that nickel.
Speaker 1: I think he could end up being the starting nickel
Speaker 1: day one. I would not be surprised. So that would
Speaker 1: to me that one and then the other obvious one
Speaker 1: is Brendan Rice just because we don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on there, you know, what's what happened with why he
Speaker 1: fell when when you think about his production and being
Speaker 1: able to look I don't, however, you want to chop
Speaker 1: it up. When you can put together twelve touchdowns in
Speaker 1: a single season, that's special, Like that's that's pretty special.
Speaker 1: If you can get if you can put six tugs
Speaker 1: on the board as a receiver, so that to me
Speaker 1: is is is impressive as well, So that won't be surprising.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna go Tarheed Still, how
Speaker 1: about you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad we have different ones. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: cam Hart. The freaks lists, intangibles I couldn't get out
Speaker 2: of my out of my mind, the Richard Sherman wide
Speaker 2: receiver turned quarterback comp and and the fact that he
Speaker 2: has his DB's coach from Notre Dame with him in
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. I think maybe the learning curve for some
Speaker 2: of these rookies, and that goes for you know, Junior
Speaker 2: Colson as well. The fact that you could bring in
Speaker 2: players who have familiarity with some of the coaching staff
Speaker 2: I think is a big deal. But cam Hart's just
Speaker 2: his numbers in his like freakish athleticism and maybe what
Speaker 2: O'Leary and Minser can do with a guy like that,
Speaker 2: you know, it's intriguing. We don't know, you know, Like
Speaker 2: still the more I look at Still too. And I
Speaker 2: think I mentioned this last week, but Hortiz says he
Speaker 2: was scouting some of the other Maryland DB's and he
Speaker 2: couldn't tell who was who. It's at points because keep
Speaker 2: in mind, like the Terms have had some high draft
Speaker 2: picks in that secondary in previous years, so still is
Speaker 2: very intriguing, especially at Nickel.
Speaker 1: But I would say that Chris that I would that
Speaker 1: to me, cam Hart is more of a not twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four pick, someone who's still in talking to some
Speaker 1: people after and ask and their opinions on, hey, why
Speaker 1: did this guy slide? It sounds like he still kind
Speaker 1: of got to learn how to play corner. That did
Speaker 1: all of those trade. He's a traits player. You get
Speaker 1: him in, let's see if we can coach him up
Speaker 1: to be a corner and and to be able, you know,
Speaker 1: to locate the ball to understand you know, to to
Speaker 1: not get handsy, but instead try to get comfortable taking
Speaker 1: your eyes off your your man and being able to
Speaker 1: turn around while still knowing where he is without getting had.
Speaker 1: So I think that's that's the one thing about Cam
Speaker 1: is I would not be frustrated if he doesn't see
Speaker 1: the field a lot this year. I think that. I
Speaker 1: think that pick in the fifth round is more of that. Hey,
Speaker 1: let's worry about twenty twenty six with this guy. Let's
Speaker 1: let's get him in here and let's get let's let's
Speaker 1: co let's earn our money as coaches, and let's coach
Speaker 1: him up to be a corner because he's still got
Speaker 1: a little bit of a ways to go on that front.
Speaker 2: Which speaks to what Donnie's saying two to three years
Speaker 2: from now, maybe he figures it out and yeah, and
Speaker 2: he's a player and a consistent starter.
Speaker 1: Maybe. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Let's see see what else we got here? Money?
Speaker 1: Uh, we has a lot of them.
Speaker 2: Is there a position group?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Answered that one. We answered that one. We answered that one.
Speaker 2: Someone asked about Corey Linsley. Uh, I wouldn't count on
Speaker 2: Corey Lensley coming back.
Speaker 1: I think that's he's he's retiring.
Speaker 2: Yeah, three spots open. What free agency do you think
Speaker 2: they will sign. We talked about corner, We talked about wide.
Speaker 1: Receiver, about receiver, the receiver safety, That would be my guest.
Speaker 1: I think you could probably still add somebody on the
Speaker 1: on the offense, on the front of the defense, the
Speaker 1: defensive front. I don't think that's it. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's also best player. Think of it like
Speaker 1: the draft, you know, you know, it could also be
Speaker 1: a best player available, you know, and and the do
Speaker 1: do you need a big body? Do you need a rusher?
Speaker 1: Do you need someone who can get some push on
Speaker 1: the you know, on the line? Is Kalais Campbell still
Speaker 1: a viable you know who played in Baltimore with John
Speaker 1: Harball those years and played great. Does he have anything left?
Speaker 1: So there's certainly a handful of players at all positions
Speaker 1: that Yannick and gockways as a pass rush special, you know,
Speaker 1: as a as a deep you know, I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think of Ogba's out there? Who else is here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's there's a lot of guys that are that
Speaker 1: are still on the market for a reason.
Speaker 2: Last question, I think we answered pretty much all of them.
Speaker 2: Guys has always appreciated, especially last minute questions like this
Speaker 2: worldview matters. Uh, what would coach Harball and Roman likely
Speaker 2: be looking for in a complete tight end room? And
Speaker 2: you talked about this at the beginning, but we can
Speaker 2: dig dig into a little bit more, especially tight end
Speaker 2: three and four spots. A blocking specialist that can play
Speaker 2: the Y at F or an H type. Now you
Speaker 2: talked about Ben Mason maybe being considered part of that
Speaker 2: tight end.
Speaker 1: I think that's who he is. Yeah, I think you
Speaker 1: just I think he just described Ben Mason. That's who
Speaker 1: can who you know? Because who I think it was
Speaker 1: coach Bischoff who said, ye An, you know he's an
Speaker 1: H that's what we see him as. However, can play
Speaker 1: some why and he can? So that's that to me,
Speaker 1: is Ben Mason is that sort of versatile. I don't
Speaker 1: think there's anybody being added to the room. You know,
Speaker 1: they they got Zach Hines out of South Dakota State
Speaker 1: as as there as an undrafted free agent, and he
Speaker 1: seems to fit. He's that sixty six two and sixty
Speaker 1: pound athlete that that you know, you take the flyer on.
Speaker 1: So to me, that room is done. It's it's Disley
Speaker 1: and Hurst that are going to be out there in twelve.
Speaker 1: They'll they'll be the two tight ends that play the most.
Speaker 1: And and then I think beyond that, you're talking about
Speaker 1: Mason and either Parham or Smart who fight for that
Speaker 1: last spot or if Hines can sneak in there as
Speaker 1: an undrafted free agent.
Speaker 2: Last question from Chris Hayry, Buddy, do you think Lebron
Speaker 2: James deserves a statue cover?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Got some traction, huh got on a little bit.
Speaker 1: Like I said, say it was you chess man, right.
Speaker 1: I watched a guy you know who was wearing number eight,
Speaker 1: number twenty four, and if the game was on the line,
Speaker 1: he was going ninety four feet. Dude, he was picking
Speaker 1: you up at half court. It was not going to
Speaker 1: be you that was going to get a clean look.
Speaker 1: And just to see that guy floating on the baseline
Speaker 1: with a hand on Aaron Gordon not even part of
Speaker 1: that play, as Jamal Murray easily went around to pick
Speaker 1: that Austin Reeves got cleaned out on and took a
Speaker 1: wide open left elbow jumper to end their season. Is
Speaker 1: just sorry, dude. It's six years of Lebron James and
Speaker 1: five of them, they have finished seventh or worst in
Speaker 1: the Western Conference. So how was that a success for
Speaker 1: a team that only counts championships and nothing else. He
Speaker 1: finished in seventh place or worse in five of your
Speaker 1: six years here, I just don't get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they got some work to do. That offensive board
Speaker 2: that Aaron Gordon got too late in the fourth, yeah, just.
Speaker 1: Threw them away like a rag doal. It's like you,
Speaker 1: he was the best player of his era. There is
Speaker 1: no denying that. However, thirty nine twenty one years in
Speaker 1: or twenty two twenty one years in, it's clear you
Speaker 1: get gassed by the end of the game because you're
Speaker 1: old and and your legs are tired, and you're you
Speaker 1: got a bunch of minutes on you. So handing over
Speaker 1: three years in one hundred and sixty two million, like
Speaker 1: the stories immediately posted as soon as he was done,
Speaker 1: soon as the Lakers were eliminated. In drafting BROWNI to
Speaker 1: appease and just did not sit well with me, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, You're not Kobe, You're not Magic, You're not
Speaker 1: even pow who was here one half think about this
Speaker 1: is the Chargers pod. So I don't want to know
Speaker 1: I'll just I'll just add this, I'll end on this.
Speaker 1: It's a footnote a lakerte Pole Gasol played and he's
Speaker 1: you know, I work for the team when Pole was there.
Speaker 1: He's one of my favorite players I've ever been around,
Speaker 1: one of the most benevolent, gracious, just gentle giants. As
Speaker 1: on the guy. He was here for six and a
Speaker 1: half years. Six it's all. It felt like, felt like
Speaker 1: twenty years because of how important he was and the
Speaker 1: impact that he made when he was here. So he
Speaker 1: basically played for the Lakers three months more than Lebron has.
Speaker 1: And you got three trips to the finals, two championships.
Speaker 1: Number sixteen in the rafters, as it should be, because
Speaker 1: he felt like a Laker, felt.
Speaker 2: Like three consecutive trips to the finals. Yeah, and he
Speaker 2: he came in two thousand and he came midway through
Speaker 2: the year, right and like him with Kobe, like boom,
Speaker 2: istant chemistry, three straight trips to the finals. And he
Speaker 2: also was going second round of the playoffs. And you
Speaker 2: know after his his three straight trips to the final.
Speaker 2: So I'm with you, I'm with you on a lot
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 1: Yep, call me a Lebron in or I don't care.
Speaker 1: I don't like him. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Like I said, this this is a Chargers podcast. But
Speaker 2: you know what, buddy, there was a there was a
Speaker 2: Lakers playoff series, a Clippers playoff series, that a King
Speaker 2: playoff series in addition to the n AFIL draft. So
Speaker 2: I mean it's a lot cool about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's listen, that's why Jim Harbaugh has got
Speaker 1: to come to the rescue. This is so we're doing
Speaker 1: this on Thursday morning. I'll have the radio show this
Speaker 1: afternoon with Petros and you know, we both come up
Speaker 1: with a story that kind of drives something. And so
Speaker 1: my thing today, after watching last night, I'm like, how
Speaker 1: did we become the city that can't win in the postseason?
Speaker 1: How are we? You know, all all show and no substance,
Speaker 1: you know, all sizzle and no steak. You got the
Speaker 1: Dodgers have gotten bounced in the first round the last
Speaker 1: two years by Arizona and San Diego. You got the
Speaker 1: Chargers who have a twenty eight to nothing lead and
Speaker 1: can't knock off the Jaguars to advance to take on
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. You got the Rams who were close but
Speaker 1: couldn't get a win in the playoffs. You got the
Speaker 1: Lakers that have gotten you know, bounced this year in
Speaker 1: the first round. Clippers are going to get bounced in
Speaker 1: the first round. The Kings got bounced in the first round. Like,
Speaker 1: how well this is not this is Los Angeles. We
Speaker 1: should not be the place that's got these teams that
Speaker 1: are one and done in the playoffs and every single
Speaker 1: team it cannot advance. It drives me crazy.
Speaker 2: Jim could change that hard boss, the type of guy
Speaker 2: you could change that energy. So guys, thank you for
Speaker 2: your questions today.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Like like Money said at the top, it's it's a
Speaker 2: joy to do this because you guys are such a
Speaker 2: big part of it and it's May second man, and
Speaker 2: we have we have just as much interest as it
Speaker 2: is to be like week six, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some new VOTs on the team next
Speaker 1: week for this part. I guarantee it. I guarantee it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, so we will We'll see you next
Speaker 2: Thursday for money. I'm Chris. This has been Chargers Weekly.
Speaker 1: Have a go