Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Fantas Pros NFL Draft Show. I'm
Speaker 1: your host Derek Brown and with me as always, the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Madman Thorne Einstrom. And on today's show, we're gonna
Speaker 1: discuss UDFA classes. Baby, I'm gonna go through all thirty
Speaker 1: two NFL teams, starting at the bottom, going all the
Speaker 1: way to the top, discussing all of these guys that
Speaker 1: fell out of the NFL Draft but still landing on
Speaker 1: NFL rosters. Thor is gonna run through all the draft prospects,
Speaker 1: what he thinks about these teams, these signings. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get it, gonna give you the fantasy angle here, the
Speaker 1: dynasty angle. Are these players that maybe make it under
Speaker 1: one of your taxi squads and possibly deeper dynasty leagues, Thor, Dude,
Speaker 1: we're getting into the nitty gritty here. Man. I thought
Speaker 1: that we couldn't like peel back this onion of this
Speaker 1: class any further, but here we are. Dude.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my UDFA class rankings dropped on Fantasy Pros today.
Speaker 2: You have been deep in the weeds on some of
Speaker 2: these these deep dynasty sleepers. It's an exciting thing to
Speaker 2: talk about. I mean, you know, that our listeners out there,
Speaker 2: they're sickos just like we are, and we're about to
Speaker 2: dive deeper I think than probably any show out there is.
Speaker 2: So I'm excited to get into it.
Speaker 1: H Dude. We're gonna bring up a ton of names
Speaker 1: that I will be absolutely transparent that I didn't even
Speaker 1: know until we started prepping for this show, and I'm
Speaker 1: diving into their games. I'm looking for film on some
Speaker 1: of these guys that we're going to bring up, especially
Speaker 1: for some of these are small schools, dude. But we're
Speaker 1: going to get into it without further ado. Man, Let's
Speaker 1: kick this bab boy off. Let's light this candle, who
Speaker 1: got the lowest grade? Who comes in at the thirty
Speaker 1: second team for their UDFA class for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The last ranked UDFA class in the NFL this
Speaker 2: year is the Atlanta Falcons, who followed up oh ra
Speaker 2: rather babbling draft weekend with basically sleeping through the UDFA process.
Speaker 2: They only got three guys that were on my pre
Speaker 2: draft five hundred and none, none of whom were in
Speaker 2: my pre draft top three fifty. There is only a
Speaker 2: couple names worth mentioning, and there's only one that is
Speaker 2: highly intriguing. That's Isjaia Wooden Junior, the receiver from Southern Utah,
Speaker 2: Dee Bright. I know that you're gonna talk about him,
Speaker 2: so I'll mention the second one. Austin Stagner, the tight
Speaker 2: end from Oklahoma, started his career at Oklahoma under Lincoln Riley,
Speaker 2: had a one year stopover in South Carolina, finished it,
Speaker 2: went back to Oklahoma to finish it out. Kind of
Speaker 2: a sad story. He was a top seventy five overall
Speaker 2: recruit who in twenty twenty was tremendous in that Lincoln
Speaker 2: Riley offense and looked like a future star. Looked like
Speaker 2: he could be one of the top tight ends whenever
Speaker 2: he came out. But that fall his season ended early
Speaker 2: because he had a staff infection and he ends up
Speaker 2: losing thirty five pounds, needed surgery, and they said he
Speaker 2: could have lost his leg in it. It's inspirational that
Speaker 2: he came back at all and is playing football and
Speaker 2: has been since, but he did not come back as
Speaker 2: the same player. The last three active seasons, he's had
Speaker 2: no more than two hundred and ten receiving yards in
Speaker 2: any of those seasons. And he was given an opportunity.
Speaker 2: You know. I mean at Oklahoma, denzelth Carolina and then
Speaker 2: Oklahoma again. He has the frame sixty six two fifty
Speaker 2: four and still has solid athleticism or decent you know,
Speaker 2: heading to the NFL sixty eight percent of athleticism. But
Speaker 2: I don't know if he has anything left but deeper,
Speaker 2: I think the more interesting name is is Isaiah Wooden Junior. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I agree with that wide receiver out of Southern Utah.
Speaker 1: I mean, look smaller guy, five to seven, one seventy six,
Speaker 1: but you look at his utility and some of the
Speaker 1: numbers just jump off the page. For I mean two
Speaker 1: point seventy four two point six four yards per rout
Speaker 1: run And I get it as a smaller school at
Speaker 1: Southern Utah, but I think he makes this roster dude.
Speaker 1: I mean you highlighted in your article he also should
Speaker 1: offer the Atlanta Falcons some return utility as far as
Speaker 1: with kicks and punts and stuff. But the other parts
Speaker 1: of his game he tested well. I mean you're talking
Speaker 1: about an athlete seriously, dude, Like ran a freaking four
Speaker 1: three five ninety ninth percentile in both twenty yard ten
Speaker 1: yard splits and the vert forty.
Speaker 2: And a half inch vert that kid jumps out of
Speaker 2: the building.
Speaker 1: So really the size doesn't matter. Like when you go
Speaker 1: to forty four inch vert, you're five to seven. I
Speaker 1: mean you're jumping to the height of somebody that like
Speaker 1: maybe say somebody that's five eleven six foot that doesn't
Speaker 1: have a very good vert. You're still getting up in
Speaker 1: the same kind of air rarefied air there. So I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's good stuff. Man. I think that he
Speaker 1: could make this roster, and if he does that, there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of names that stick out on this
Speaker 1: receiving depth chart for Atlanta behind Drake London, Darnel Mooney,
Speaker 1: and Rondel Moore, Like who's he competing with? What? Ray,
Speaker 1: Ray McLeod, Caderil Hodge, these are the Warriors. So definitely
Speaker 1: a guy that I think he can make the roster
Speaker 1: and I won't be surprised, you know, he carves out
Speaker 1: a pretty decent roll or pushes rondel Moore, who to
Speaker 1: this point in his career has been a massive disappointment
Speaker 1: considering where he went in the NFL draft. So you're
Speaker 1: telling me the Atlanta Falcons gave up pretty much nothing
Speaker 1: to get Rondel Moore, would I be that shocked if
Speaker 1: Wooden was starting in the slot in Week seventeen coming
Speaker 1: up this season. Nope, not at all, dude. But heading
Speaker 1: up this list some more. Who makes the next spot
Speaker 1: for UDFA rankings?
Speaker 2: Number thirty one is the Los Angeles Chargers, who I
Speaker 2: thought had a great draft, but they as not as
Speaker 2: inspiring work in the UDFA process. No prospect in my
Speaker 2: top three point fifty. They did have five that were
Speaker 2: in my pre draft top five hundred. The interesting names
Speaker 2: here for me were Jim Harbass signed one of his
Speaker 2: former Michigan Boys, Carson Barnhardt. I projected him as a guard,
Speaker 2: that's where I think he's headed at the NFL level,
Speaker 2: but he spent time at both right tackle predominantly the
Speaker 2: last couple of years, but last year he also had
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty six naps at left tackle and
Speaker 2: one hundred and ninety four right guard. They were kicking
Speaker 2: him everywhere just to plug holes and to make room
Speaker 2: for people that Darius Henderson didn't start the season in
Speaker 2: that lineup and then came in, and so they were
Speaker 2: shuffling pieces around, and in so doing, Carson barneheard showed
Speaker 2: a little bit bit of versatility. Like I said, I
Speaker 2: think he's going to be a guard at the next level,
Speaker 2: but he at least has the break glass in case
Speaker 2: of emergency tackle utility. The only other guy, Zach Hines,
Speaker 2: I thought could be maybe a blocking tight end sixty six,
Speaker 2: two fifty nine. I'm not sure about more than that,
Speaker 2: but not a ton here to talk about either for
Speaker 2: the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Hines. I'll I'll just lop him off
Speaker 1: my list because for me with tight ends and this
Speaker 1: kind of this will be a consistent theme throughout this
Speaker 1: entire episode. If you were not athletic a tight end,
Speaker 1: I don't care about you in fantasy. If you run
Speaker 1: four the slower than a four to eight in fantasy,
Speaker 1: that's basically the coffin Neil. You can name on one
Speaker 1: hand over the last ten to fifteen years how many
Speaker 1: tight ends have been Fantasy relevant and ran four eight
Speaker 1: forties or slower. Athletics is the easiest thing to tie
Speaker 1: to not only fantasy production at tight end, but high
Speaker 1: end fantasy production. So all these guys were going to
Speaker 1: discuss here. If you don't, there's a DFA signing you
Speaker 1: like for your NFL team, and it's a tight end
Speaker 1: and you don't hear me bring them up, then it's
Speaker 1: probably because they're not athletic or not athletic enough to
Speaker 1: be fantasy relevant or at least projected that way, especially
Speaker 1: when we're not tying draft capital to him. So I
Speaker 1: agree with you on Hinzvan. I mean five flat forty
Speaker 1: two point two ras new Thank you, all right? Moving
Speaker 1: on man, Next team who is up here? As far
Speaker 1: as getting the thirtieth spot.
Speaker 2: That'd be the Houston Texans, who I would say that
Speaker 2: they slept through the UDFA process, except they signed the
Speaker 2: Jankie Twins. So it's like they signed the Jankie Twins
Speaker 2: from South Dakota State and then they more or less
Speaker 2: slept through the rest of it. Interesting decisions like I
Speaker 2: like that signing by the Texans. I thought it was
Speaker 2: a rather interesting or maybe I should say peculiar decision
Speaker 2: by the Jankie Twins themselves to both go to the Texans.
Speaker 2: Those kids ripped up the FCS and by the way,
Speaker 2: for people out there that don't know FCS football, South
Speaker 2: Dakota State was a juggernaut last year. They were the
Speaker 2: undefeated champions in the FCS. The Jankie Twins Jackson had
Speaker 2: thirty six hundred and seventy seven yards twenty nine touchdowns
Speaker 2: in his career two hundred and forty four catches. Jayden
Speaker 2: had one hundred and seventy catches, twenty eight hundred yards
Speaker 2: and thirty touchdowns. They're basically in the same physical package
Speaker 2: shicks two to twelve, and they're the ras that the
Speaker 2: athletics scorers were identical as well. They're identical twins. They
Speaker 2: were both sixty seven percentile in terms of that. But
Speaker 2: I thought it was peculiar because you're no longer going
Speaker 2: to be teammates with the Texans Jankie twins. You are
Speaker 2: now competing with one another for a job. The Murphy
Speaker 2: twins would be an example, we'll get to them later
Speaker 2: on of twins who broke up signing with different teams,
Speaker 2: one with the Vikings, one with the Dolphins try to
Speaker 2: juice the odds of making the roster. I don't think
Speaker 2: both these kids do, but I think one of them,
Speaker 2: whoever performs better, could have a shot on the depth chart.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that was about the extent what the Texans did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and for the Jankee twins, I kind of hopped
Speaker 1: over them as far as a lot of these UDFA
Speaker 1: guys because there's gonna be plenty of wide receivers. I
Speaker 1: just looked at their analytical profiles, like they tested pretty well, man,
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. Just looking at their deeper analytical profiles,
Speaker 1: these super small school FCS guys, like I want to
Speaker 1: see you break out in a monstrous magical way to
Speaker 1: kind of project like overcoming the difference in the competition.
Speaker 1: That's why I was so high on Christian Watson because
Speaker 1: you could stack his numbers up against all the wide
Speaker 1: receivers when he came out in FBS and he was
Speaker 1: like top five and yards per route run, all these
Speaker 1: different things. And when I looked at their analytical profiles,
Speaker 1: like Jaden never eclipsed two point one four yards per
Speaker 1: out run until his final season at South Dakota State.
Speaker 1: Jackson was two point eight three in his third season.
Speaker 1: Like that's okay, but it's not amazing. The one guy
Speaker 1: I'll bring up here and I want to get your
Speaker 1: take on him for British Brooks. Interesting guy. I'm not
Speaker 1: telling you that he's amazing, but five ten two, nineteen
Speaker 1: eight point eight raz a lot of his his numbers.
Speaker 1: I think he's more of a grinder backs. I'll say
Speaker 1: that I don't think he's a massive explosive guy, but
Speaker 1: forty six point four breakaway run rate, three point two
Speaker 1: yards of to contact per attempt over one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty nine carries at unc the testing like Perks on
Speaker 1: my ears, so does the size. And if you look
Speaker 1: behind Joe Mixon, I mean yes, like I still love
Speaker 1: Damian Pierce, don't get me wrong, but after that, it's
Speaker 1: who we worried about, Like could this guy ascend him
Speaker 1: be the RB three on this depth chart? I think
Speaker 1: it's possible, Like he's competing with Daria Gumbowale, Juir Jordan,
Speaker 1: who's really going to be a returner, so don't even
Speaker 1: worry about him. In the running back room. JJ Taylor's
Speaker 1: bounced around the league. My former love list guy who
Speaker 1: again has bounced around the league, Jared Doaks. I mean, really,
Speaker 1: it's not hard to Quinton see a possibility that British
Speaker 1: Brooks could be a guy that you need to put
Speaker 1: in your taxi squad because he could be the RB
Speaker 1: three on the Houston Texans roster after they break camp.
Speaker 1: And we all know one of the most injury prevalent
Speaker 1: because of the beating they take on a percarey basis.
Speaker 1: Thoor is running back. What are your thoughts on Brooks.
Speaker 2: I don't see it with Brooks at least as a
Speaker 2: running back. Yeah, I mean like last year he was
Speaker 2: on a milk cart in there. He's gotten bypassed by
Speaker 2: Omari and Hampton. That the year before he broke a
Speaker 2: couple explosive runs coming in off the bench. But concerns
Speaker 2: me for a fifth year player coming in who over
Speaker 2: his career combined those five seasons had eight hundred and
Speaker 2: forty eight yards in college in pretty good offensive environments
Speaker 2: at UNC, playing with some of those guys the light boxes.
Speaker 2: Before last year in the phil Ango scheme, he was
Speaker 2: consistently beaten out by other guys. So I would be
Speaker 2: surprised if he ends up surprising the NFL. But he
Speaker 2: does have the testing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree, man, I mean definitely a guy that.
Speaker 1: I mean the other thing we're talking about with a
Speaker 1: lot of UDFA guys, it's like, if you couldn't start
Speaker 1: on your collegiate team, then the likelihood that you're gonna
Speaker 1: start on an NFL franchise is even lower. So again,
Speaker 1: long shots with all these guys. But moving on, who's
Speaker 1: the next team who makes the twenty ninth spot in
Speaker 1: your UDFA class rankings.
Speaker 2: The Cleveland Browns come in twenty ninth For me, JV
Speaker 2: and Cohen, the guard from Miami is the most interesting guy,
Speaker 2: highest ranked on my board, the only guy that they
Speaker 2: got on my pre draft top three hundred and fifty.
Speaker 2: There was a shot he was going to get drafted,
Speaker 2: and there was people that were higher on Cohen than me.
Speaker 2: He is a guy who could compete for a job.
Speaker 2: The rest of these guys, I don't know about. Jalen Sundall,
Speaker 2: at least from North Dakota State, another FCS kit has
Speaker 2: some positional versatility. He played outside in college and some
Speaker 2: project him to center, some project him to guard. I
Speaker 2: had ranked him as a center. He's in both in
Speaker 2: terms of the experience he had there at NDSU, another
Speaker 2: really good FCS program then also is testing six '
Speaker 2: five three h one ninety third percentile athleticism. But outside
Speaker 2: it looked like they were just shooting on trades. Like
Speaker 2: Amari and Brown. The wide receiver from South Carolina didn't
Speaker 2: do a lot in college. He does have four to
Speaker 2: three speed, so you're just bringing him in to give
Speaker 2: him a look. Aiden Robbins the top running back they
Speaker 2: signed the UDFA. Speaking of guys who their last season
Speaker 2: of college got on a milk carton because they got
Speaker 2: beaten out. Uh. Aiden Robbins had transferred up to BYU,
Speaker 2: hoping to on the bigger stage, to move to the
Speaker 2: big twelve, that that he was gonna, you know, make
Speaker 2: his mark and everything like that, and who knows, maybe
Speaker 2: even contending to get drafted. He certainly has a size
Speaker 2: fort six two two thirty seven sixty six percentile athleticism.
Speaker 2: But he was a backup running back last year his
Speaker 2: last season at BYU. Earlier in his career at UNLV,
Speaker 2: he was a tackle breaking machine, So you know, can
Speaker 2: he can he turn back the clock on that? What
Speaker 2: to see? But the rest of this this, I thought
Speaker 2: it was pretty uninspiring.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought they I just think they just continued
Speaker 1: following suit with their their overall draft class. I thought
Speaker 1: their overall draft class was very under uninspiring or felt
Speaker 1: the same thing with their UDFA signings. On to the
Speaker 1: next team. Man who's at twenty eight The New York Giants.
Speaker 2: They got one guy that I'm I think can push
Speaker 2: for a spot here that I'm intrigued by. That's Case Rodgers,
Speaker 2: the defensive lineman from Oregon, six foot four and a
Speaker 2: half two ninety four with ninety eight percentile RAS size
Speaker 2: of justin athleticism. I thought, that's an interesting guy to
Speaker 2: bring in the rest of this class. There's a couple
Speaker 2: of dart throws, you know, again on athletic trades, but
Speaker 2: but not guys that I think are are gonna end
Speaker 2: up having a decent shot to make it. The Giants
Speaker 2: were in during this NFL draft where a record forty
Speaker 2: three trades were made. The Giants were the one team
Speaker 2: that was sort of just sitting back on their hands.
Speaker 2: They didn't make one of them. They stayed in their
Speaker 2: slots the entire time, and it seemed like that passive
Speaker 2: approach carried over into the UDFA process with the with
Speaker 2: the exception of mister Rogers, of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree, man. The only skilled guy that
Speaker 1: they signed for UDFA was John Giles, and he didn't
Speaker 1: really pop at Western Florida. So it's like, if you
Speaker 1: can't handle it there again, the chances of you popping
Speaker 1: in the NFL probably not gonna happen. But speaking, you know,
Speaker 1: heading to the Midwest. Who's popping for the Green Day
Speaker 1: Packers at your twenty seventh ranked team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Packers did come out with my top ranked
Speaker 2: long snappers, so I'll give them that. They had the
Speaker 2: headset we're going deep. That's Peter Bowden, and they had
Speaker 2: a head start on him because Peter Bowden went to Wisconsin,
Speaker 2: so they got they got the shop local discount on all.
Speaker 2: Mister Peter Bowden. Uh, he absolutely could stick, you know
Speaker 2: as as far as that, so they probably pulled a
Speaker 2: roster guy there. The only other guy worth mentioning to
Speaker 2: me is trent A Jones from Michigan, and merely because
Speaker 2: trent A Jones. It's actually interesting, deebra. You recall last
Speaker 2: summer when Jim Nagy came out and said that he
Speaker 2: had more than five Michigan offensive linemen on the Senior
Speaker 2: Bowl watch list for this for you know what, the
Speaker 2: process that we just went through, and the reason for
Speaker 2: that is trent A Jones in particular, decided to stick
Speaker 2: around at Michigan, even though he entered each of the
Speaker 2: past several seasons as their sixth offensive lineman, decided to stick.
Speaker 2: He could have started anywhere else in the nation, but
Speaker 2: decided to stick around and he did end up getting
Speaker 2: pt you know during the shuffling the injuries. Like I mentioned,
Speaker 2: I project him as a guard and I don't think
Speaker 2: he's he's going to be able to do the oh
Speaker 2: I'll plug the tackle thing at the next level. Six
Speaker 2: foot four, three zero five seventy fourth percentile athlete. But
Speaker 2: you know, he was coached well, he was very valuable
Speaker 2: to Michigan, and you bring him in and maybe you
Speaker 2: get a backup interior offensive lineman out of him. But
Speaker 2: that was about all I saw in this class.
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody really checking the boxes for me. I mean,
Speaker 1: like again, just messiahs Winson, Like, I'm sorry, you're one
Speaker 1: point five as sir, I'm moving on blocking tight end. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: Just not gonna sit here and you know, percolate the
Speaker 1: senses and make you want to draft him or put
Speaker 1: him on a dynasty squad man. But who's number twenty six?
Speaker 1: Moving on to the next team.
Speaker 2: New England Patriots. Only one name for me that that
Speaker 2: has my interest here and that's Johntrey Hunter, the linebacker
Speaker 2: from Georgia State. You know, every year in the draft
Speaker 2: we get weird evaluations. We get fascinating evaluations, we get
Speaker 2: airtight evaluations, we get not interested evaluation. You run the gamut.
Speaker 2: Hunter was was one of those weird ones for me
Speaker 2: this process. But I am pleased for him that he's
Speaker 2: at least gonna get a shot here because he has
Speaker 2: a really interesting profile. He's a terrible I'll start with
Speaker 2: the bad. He's a terrible athlete. He cannot be put
Speaker 2: in coverage. The only times he went out there, and
Speaker 2: this was in the G five, he got lit up.
Speaker 2: You cannot have him back in coverage. And in addition
Speaker 2: to that, as if that's not enough, he missed a
Speaker 2: metric ton of tackles the past couple of years might
Speaker 2: be the worst in this class, like in the entire
Speaker 2: draft class this year at linebacker at that he missed
Speaker 2: fifty tackles the last two years combined. So you're like, bor,
Speaker 2: why are you even talking about this guy? And why
Speaker 2: did the Patriots even say I was just about to
Speaker 2: ask that, what do you like about him?
Speaker 1: Then?
Speaker 2: This is why John Trey Hunter is really really good
Speaker 2: at one thing, and one thing only. He is skilled
Speaker 2: at getting after the quarterback. You send that kid on
Speaker 2: the blitzes and he knows what he is doing. He
Speaker 2: gets through the creases, he can bounce off the glancing shots,
Speaker 2: and then he is gonna get after that quarterback. He
Speaker 2: piled up the pressures, piled up the sacks down there
Speaker 2: at Georgia State in the Sun Belt. Can that skill?
Speaker 2: Can it overcome the rest of it? Can? Will he
Speaker 2: be able to prove to New England and Camp that
Speaker 2: I could become potentially a situation pass rusher that you
Speaker 2: could use. He's gonna have to because the rest of
Speaker 2: it's not gonna play and the lack of tackling ability.
Speaker 2: You wonder if at the NFL level, if he can
Speaker 2: even be on the special teams. You know with that.
Speaker 2: But like I said, he does have a real skill
Speaker 2: for getting after the quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean two point six ras. His technique better be
Speaker 1: freaking fire man. Because of the athleticism's that bad and
Speaker 1: the technique doesn't play up, He's not gonna last much longer.
Speaker 1: Aft to Camp, Dude, head to number twenty five. Who
Speaker 1: is the twenty fifth ranked team for you?
Speaker 2: The Indianapolis Colts coming at twenty five. The best player
Speaker 2: they got in the UDFA Keton Slovas from BYU. The
Speaker 2: afore mentioned BYU via Pitt via USC, and USC was
Speaker 2: the place where he had success for one season. In fact,
Speaker 2: after that freshman season, this we gotta go all the
Speaker 2: way back to twenty nineteen pre COVID era. That's when
Speaker 2: Keyton Slovas went nuts as a freshman at USC, dropped
Speaker 2: thirty five hundred passing yards and thirty touchdowns on seventy
Speaker 2: two percent on completions. And then in the pre draft
Speaker 2: process he tested as a ninety third percentile athlete in
Speaker 2: a decent physical package six foot two and a half
Speaker 2: two twenty three. The problem is everything in between the
Speaker 2: two things that just stated, the seasons in between that
Speaker 2: he ended up losing the job at USC, gotten banged up,
Speaker 2: but then you know the other quarterbacks that they had
Speaker 2: ends up losing that. And then he went about his journey.
Speaker 2: First to pit that was the post Jordan Addison year.
Speaker 2: He badly struggled there. Then he goes to BYU, badly
Speaker 2: struggled there as well. Can he sort of turned back
Speaker 2: the clock to what he was doing as a freshman,
Speaker 2: which was in an air raid system. What he showed
Speaker 2: back in twenty nineteen was making the quick decisions, making
Speaker 2: the correct read, you know, in those beats after the snap,
Speaker 2: getting the ball out, hitting a guy on the hands.
Speaker 2: He doesn't have a great arm, but the quick decisions
Speaker 2: and the short area accuracy is what he showed there
Speaker 2: these past couple of years. I think it was probably
Speaker 2: the off into scheme he was in that was pressing
Speaker 2: his arm a little bit too much, and he started
Speaker 2: taking some chances as well that turnover worthy plays in
Speaker 2: the interests that the road turnovers both spiked on him.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the Colts can work on him with that.
Speaker 2: Potentially a developmental guy and he's going to be competing
Speaker 2: in camp. I thought this was really interesting. They signed
Speaker 2: a second quarterback, Jason Bean from the University of Kansas.
Speaker 1: Uh, those here.
Speaker 2: Listening to us can't can't see me. But I'm wearing
Speaker 2: my Rock Chalk sweatshirt. You know, I'm always repping Repping
Speaker 2: Rock Chalk. Obviously, I had a lot of exposure to
Speaker 2: to Jason Bean as a as the world's foremost Jayhawk
Speaker 2: football fan. But Jason Bean is is interesting in me
Speaker 2: because former track star in high school and I'm talking
Speaker 2: and he was in Texas. He was a track star
Speaker 2: in high school and he has more arm talent than
Speaker 2: you would think. He can push the ball down to
Speaker 2: the third level no problem, he can evade people in
Speaker 2: the pocket, and for long stretches of games he will
Speaker 2: look like a guy that should have been drafted. The
Speaker 2: problem with Jason Bean has always been this, and this
Speaker 2: is why he started each of the last couple of
Speaker 2: years as QB two to Jalen Daniels the starter there.
Speaker 2: He glitches in the most baffling ways, reliably three to
Speaker 2: four plays a game, and that's it. But you know,
Speaker 2: every single game you go in, you're gonna get good
Speaker 2: Jason for the rest of it, and you're going to
Speaker 2: get bad mister Being for three to four plays. And
Speaker 2: those are when he makes these just wildly half hazard decisions,
Speaker 2: or he'll just like there won't be a teammate around,
Speaker 2: he'll throw and you know, to the defender, or you know,
Speaker 2: he'll do some crazy aggressive thing that it's like, bro,
Speaker 2: you cannot do that. Last year, so Jalen Daniels had
Speaker 2: gun down the starter for Kansas that brought Bean in,
Speaker 2: and Bean was playing well. They were able to scheme
Speaker 2: around or at least mitigate those glitches, like I said,
Speaker 2: and he was playing well, but then Bean got hurt,
Speaker 2: which Debro sent in a young freshman QB three into
Speaker 2: the lineup backas a guy by the name of Cold Ballard,
Speaker 2: who happens to be the son of Colts general manager
Speaker 2: Chris Ballard, who just signed Jason Bean to the roster.
Speaker 2: You want to talk about boots on the ground, de Bro,
Speaker 2: don't get any more boots on the ground than that.
Speaker 1: Nope, you're right, man, You're right man. I mean, I
Speaker 1: could just imagine Chris Ballard and his long flowing locks
Speaker 1: just on the sideline watching all these plays of Kansas
Speaker 1: just brushing his hair as the twenty mile anar wind
Speaker 1: just goes through it. It's it's it's amazing when you
Speaker 1: think about it.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: The only guy moving on from that, the only guy
Speaker 1: that kind of jumped out to me a little bit
Speaker 1: for the Colts, was justin Strong and really it was
Speaker 1: just a physical package. I mean, nine point nine six
Speaker 1: raz dude is just a physical freak. Four point four
Speaker 1: to six forty you go down the ticker tape. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's just an athletic Marvel shoved in a five eleven
Speaker 1: two oh six package. His analytical and tackle breaking number
Speaker 1: were me at best thirty point nine percent breakaway rates,
Speaker 1: seventy five point five elusive ratings. So that's really not
Speaker 1: going to jump out to you.
Speaker 2: But if we're.
Speaker 1: Gonna go say, okay, this guy is hyper athletic. A
Speaker 1: lot of this maybe with system, maybe it was blocking
Speaker 1: things like that, He's coming from a smaller school and stuff.
Speaker 1: It's a name where people if you're inn and again
Speaker 1: going into deeper dynasty formats formats fourteen sixteen teamer or
Speaker 1: if you're just desperate in a rebuild, I could see
Speaker 1: stashing him on a taxi squad. Uh. But moving on
Speaker 1: to the twenty fourth ranked team four, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: lead this off, Dude. There is not a skill guy
Speaker 1: that this team drafted that I care to even spend
Speaker 1: a word on. What do you think about this team
Speaker 1: and who is it?
Speaker 2: The Los Angeles Rams coming at twenty four and they're
Speaker 2: I the way they do things with the Rams, with
Speaker 2: the draft process, it's just different. And people know that,
Speaker 2: you know they used to have the heck them picks?
Speaker 2: Would that be a frick them pets? Maybe they just
Speaker 2: a half? That's that's that sort of added phrase. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like, don't get fired there don't get fired third. Uh,
Speaker 2: but during during the draft process and and that you know,
Speaker 2: during the heyday, and that that's changed. Now they got
Speaker 2: their their first round picks back and now you get
Speaker 2: to see a more fleshed out the way that they
Speaker 2: sort of see this thing and what they do. They
Speaker 2: they sort of zig where the NFL is ze gang where,
Speaker 2: And I'm talking about the draft process and and this
Speaker 2: UDF A class in particular, where they the guys they
Speaker 2: don't care as much about the testing at the combine
Speaker 2: or the prode is. What they care about is the
Speaker 2: tape that that they're watching, but then also the GPS
Speaker 2: metrics on that tape. So they care a lot more
Speaker 2: about your play speed while you're on the field in
Speaker 2: pads as opposed to how fast you ran the forty
Speaker 2: in Indianapolis or how you know, uh some of your
Speaker 2: broad jumped different stuff like that. And that's explicitly what
Speaker 2: led them to Debro's boy pookin the coua. Uh. They
Speaker 2: showed the video on the war room as they were
Speaker 2: picking Pook Akua and one of the I think it
Speaker 2: was Sneid who said, you know, you look at his
Speaker 2: testing numbers and he's at the bottom of the list,
Speaker 2: he goes, but if you just change it to his
Speaker 2: on field speed, he goes right to the top of
Speaker 2: the list, and and and then you know, run in
Speaker 2: the room was like getting all excited, Yeah, pooh, we
Speaker 2: love Puca Stape. And the rest was history with that.
Speaker 2: But this UDFA class was part and parce. You look
Speaker 2: at the RADS scores of the just the top guys
Speaker 2: that they signed. So they got seven guys on my
Speaker 2: top five hundred board. But here here are the percentiles
Speaker 2: on those guys for their athleticism. Thirty seven, thirty fifth,
Speaker 2: seventy ninth is the one exception, seventeenth, twenty fourth, tenth,
Speaker 2: twenty eighth. These are the guys that the rest of
Speaker 2: the NFL was like, yeah, that kid's not athletic enough
Speaker 2: to play in the league. But here's the commonality amongst
Speaker 2: those seven guys. They were all good college players. So
Speaker 2: the Rams are like, Okay, we'll take them for free
Speaker 2: and we'll bring them in and we'll see And they've
Speaker 2: shown a lot of success in identifying these guys and
Speaker 2: again going the other way. It's it's it's it's sort
Speaker 2: of a money ball way of doing it because the
Speaker 2: rest of the league is skewing these guys and so
Speaker 2: you get them on the cheaper that the Josh Wallace,
Speaker 2: the cornerback for Michigan was from last year's champs. Was
Speaker 2: was my top rated guy on my pre draft board
Speaker 2: three twenty one, and then the The only two skill
Speaker 2: guys they signed were at the bottom of my one.
Speaker 2: Drake Stoops three eighty nine, the son of former Oklahoma
Speaker 2: coach Bob Stoops and the nephew of the other Stoops
Speaker 2: that are coaching in football. Drake went to Oklahoma as well.
Speaker 2: He caught a lot of balls there. He was the
Speaker 2: guy who was ten percentile athleticism though at five nine.
Speaker 2: The other one, Sam Wigloose that they saw another receiver
Speaker 2: four to forty second on my list twenty eighth percentile athlete,
Speaker 2: but he ripped up the Mac at Ohio, so he
Speaker 2: like he was the dude, and he was one of
Speaker 2: the best skill players that they had in the MAC
Speaker 2: the past couple of years. So we'll find out if
Speaker 2: they have enough athleticism to not be nullifying but parton
Speaker 2: parcel for the Rams. Their strategy here with the udfas
Speaker 2: I had not.
Speaker 1: Seen until we started prepping for this show a one
Speaker 1: point zero raz But now say I've seen it all,
Speaker 1: thor I've seen it. I've seen it all. Shout out
Speaker 1: you see Oh yeah, shout out to them, man. But
Speaker 1: what did you see out of the twenty third ranked
Speaker 1: team here that you got on your list?
Speaker 2: The Tampa Bay Bucks come in next, the top rank guy,
Speaker 2: they and they got two guys in my top three
Speaker 2: hundred that The one who I think has got a
Speaker 2: shot here is Kaitlin Deloch, Florida State linebacker. Super duper undersized.
Speaker 2: Uh he's under six feet and he's two hundred and
Speaker 2: ten pounds, and you you'd you'd like a kid like
Speaker 2: that to be a stud athlete. And he's only sixty
Speaker 2: fifth percentile athleticism. But he was an awesome player in
Speaker 2: the ACC for a nasty Florida State defense last year
Speaker 2: seven sacks and twenty pressures. But again, tiny off ball linebacker,
Speaker 2: not an elite athlete. The way that he's going to
Speaker 2: have to make this roster DeLoach is through special teams,
Speaker 2: and he's got a shot to do it. He had
Speaker 2: four hundred and eighty three special team snaps at Florida State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there weren't any skill guys that I think, even
Speaker 1: baron mentioning here. So moving on, man, considering the things
Speaker 1: that this next franchise has done over the last few
Speaker 1: years in the draft, I was kind of surprised they
Speaker 1: were this slow. But again I'm bearing the lead here
Speaker 1: Thor who made the twenty second spot on your UDFA rankings.
Speaker 2: The Detroit Lions check in there and a team that
Speaker 2: I scored very highly their draft process. They weren't quite
Speaker 2: as aggressive in UDFA this year. They did have a
Speaker 2: couple names that are interesting. Steele Chambers, the linebacker from
Speaker 2: Ohio State, had a shot to get drafted. He was
Speaker 2: draftable on a lot of boards. On mine, he was
Speaker 2: one of the last guys who had a draftable great
Speaker 2: I had him two hundred and fifty fifth. We had
Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty seven picks in the class this year.
Speaker 2: But he's one of those guys who was like the
Speaker 2: rock steady, rock solid linebacker for a blue blood who
Speaker 2: it's like, we don't know if his skill set is
Speaker 2: diverse enough any he has the athleticism to be able
Speaker 2: to convert that game to the next level. But last
Speaker 2: year on a very good Ohio State defense. Chambers led
Speaker 2: that the Buckeyes with eighty three tackles, reliable tackler, very
Speaker 2: good in run support. But again the athletic limitations to
Speaker 2: length limitations, that's the problem here. And the only other
Speaker 2: guy that was in my top three hundred, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: let you talk about Debro because he's interesting Isja Williams,
Speaker 2: that wide receiver from Illinois.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought he was very interesting.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: The problem is for Isaiah is I think he's extremely interesting.
Speaker 1: But he played seventy four percent of his career collegiate
Speaker 1: snaps in the slot, So you're looking at a player
Speaker 1: that's automatically going to be blocked by amanas Saint Brown.
Speaker 1: But I gotta bring him up here, man, just for
Speaker 1: the reasons you said, like he is very, very freaking interesting,
Speaker 1: A thirty eighth in yards per route run. I look
Speaker 1: at him as I just look at him, to be honestly,
Speaker 1: like to package this for everybody, I think he's cheaper
Speaker 1: Malakai Corley, Like, why did it team drab Malackai Corley
Speaker 1: when you could have signed Isaiah Williams as a UDFA
Speaker 1: And people say, really, that's what you think about him?
Speaker 1: With a six point three ras. He got ding did
Speaker 1: raz pretty hard for his size if you look at
Speaker 1: the deeper parts of it and his straight line speed,
Speaker 1: like he ran a four six three forty. But if
Speaker 1: you look at everything else, it paints a much rosier
Speaker 1: and complete picture about his athleticism. As an eighty eighth
Speaker 1: percentile avert, eighty six percentile shuttle, and ninety second percentile
Speaker 1: three cone for he was ninth amongst all wide receivers
Speaker 1: in FBS last years in miss tackles forced. So like,
Speaker 1: if you're a team like the Jets, why did you
Speaker 1: drab Malakai Corley when you just could have signed Isaiah Williams.
Speaker 1: He will never know, but I think the Detroit Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions got a good signing there. Again, I think he's
Speaker 1: blocked bi Amena. I say Brown, but a talented player.
Speaker 1: I do think he sticks on the roster. Who do
Speaker 1: you think sticks on the roster for this next team
Speaker 1: that you have at twenty first?
Speaker 2: I got the Cincinnati Bengals coming in there, and I
Speaker 2: think the best shot is Aaron Casey, the linebacker from Indiana.
Speaker 2: The Bengals were actively going after attacking the linebacking position
Speaker 2: once the draft ended on Saturday night. They so they
Speaker 2: ended up losing a bidding war for this kid, Lavelle Bailey,
Speaker 2: who went to Fresno State. He ended up going to
Speaker 2: the Broncos. Had mentioned that the only coach that talked
Speaker 2: to him on the telephone after the draft was Sean Payton.
Speaker 2: That ended up being the tiebreaker. So Cincinnati sort of
Speaker 2: audibled off that plan, ends up getting both Casey and
Speaker 2: then a linebacker from Wisconsin. I don't know how to
Speaker 2: pronounce his last name, Mema is his first name. But
Speaker 2: they each got fifteen thousand dollars signing bonuses and a
Speaker 2: little bit more guaranteed in the first year salary. I
Speaker 2: think one of those two guys, I think they're sort
Speaker 2: of tipping their hand about that that, you know, one
Speaker 2: of those two guys, who ever plays better, has a
Speaker 2: real shot to make the roster. But you know, outside
Speaker 2: of that, not as many interesting guys. The only other
Speaker 2: name worth mentioning in Dee Brol. I'll coick it to
Speaker 2: you talk about this guy a little bit more was
Speaker 2: a small school potential sleeper Cortland state wide receiver Cole
Speaker 2: Burgess who has a fascinating athletic testing profile.
Speaker 1: Dude, I was not expected to see that type of
Speaker 1: athlete going undrafted. I mean Cole Burgess, for everybody just
Speaker 1: now hearing his name, eighty seven catches, one hundred like,
Speaker 1: thirteen hundred and seventy five receiving yards, sixteen tudies at
Speaker 1: Cortland State. I get the small school, but nine point
Speaker 1: eight raz for four point four to five forty ninety
Speaker 1: eight percentile avert, ninety nine percentile broad jump like and
Speaker 1: Cincinnati has made that kind of their thing over the
Speaker 1: last few years. I mean, the former freaklister Andre Yoshavas
Speaker 1: is on this roster. They drafted Jermaine Burton in the
Speaker 1: third round. They have coveted high end athletes on this
Speaker 1: depth chart. So you look at the other guys on
Speaker 1: this receiving depth chart. I get Cole Burgess would have
Speaker 1: a lot of climbing to do, but it's not exactly
Speaker 1: a tall mountain thor to climb over Kendrick pryor Sdrick Jackson,
Speaker 1: Shrinton Irwin like all of these guys like those are
Speaker 1: not guys that you need to be worried that much about.
Speaker 1: If Cole Burgess can show out in camp, and maybe
Speaker 1: this is a guy that where I'm out in the
Speaker 1: streets in preseason dfs this upcoming season, and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: look at this guy. They could be a name that
Speaker 1: people need to earmark, one for taxi squads and dynasty,
Speaker 1: but two a name that we could be hearing continually
Speaker 1: in training camp. What are your thoughts on Burgess.
Speaker 2: It's just that it's an interesting dart throw in terms
Speaker 2: of the athleticism. That's the kind of guy that you
Speaker 2: want to take the shot on.
Speaker 1: In sir, A big, big agree. Moving on to the
Speaker 1: next team here a small class or for the Aarzona
Speaker 1: Cardinals at twenty two signings man, either one of these
Speaker 1: guys jump out to you.
Speaker 2: Two signings on my top five hundred board. They've got
Speaker 2: a couple other guys, but they were lower, and they
Speaker 2: explicitly came out after it maybe felt like they had
Speaker 2: to give an explanation for it. Their assistant general manager,
Speaker 2: Dave Sears, ended up explaining to the media that they
Speaker 2: had more guys on their roster than in typical years,
Speaker 2: so they were closer to that ninety man limit, So
Speaker 2: they explicitly didn't were not as aggressive in UDFA. The
Speaker 2: reason that they ended up getting higher despite having only
Speaker 2: two guys on that they signed on my pre draft
Speaker 2: five hundred was that one of them I thought was
Speaker 2: draftable and the other one just fell outside of that range.
Speaker 2: So the quality was there. Of the top guys, Miles Murphy,
Speaker 2: the defensive lineman from UNC, is the guy that I
Speaker 2: had a draftable great on. He's it's an interesting profile
Speaker 2: with him. He has good size, he had three years
Speaker 2: starting experience in the ACC, and he is showing the flashes.
Speaker 2: In twenty twenty one, he had nine tackles for lost
Speaker 2: and four sacks as a sophomore, But the past two
Speaker 2: years that UNC defense devolved into the gutter and Murphy's
Speaker 2: production went along with it. Last season only four point
Speaker 2: five tackles for loss and one sack. But Arizona will
Speaker 2: see that they obviously need bodies there on the front.
Speaker 2: They'll see if they can end up turning him into
Speaker 2: that and that three four predominantly three four front that
Speaker 2: they run. People will recall they drafted Darius Robinson specifically
Speaker 2: looking at that his fit in that defensive front. Miles
Speaker 2: Murphy absolutely could fit there as a backup three to
Speaker 2: four end, but he's going to have to prove it
Speaker 2: in camp that that he can turn it around after
Speaker 2: the last couple of disappointing years. The other guy that
Speaker 2: they signed that was on my board, I'll let you
Speaker 2: talk about him a little bit more debro, but interesting guy.
Speaker 2: More for the Dynasty folks out there. Colorado receiver Xavier Weaver.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Weaver is interesting and definitely not at
Speaker 1: the tip top of this class as far as UDFA signings.
Speaker 1: Really good production at us USF, but then we saw
Speaker 1: that kind of fall off whenever he transferred to Colorado.
Speaker 1: But again bringing up the USF production again, going from
Speaker 1: one scheme to the other, transferring schools and all that
Speaker 1: type of movement. Sometimes, you know, I'm willing to give
Speaker 1: a guy a little bit of a benefit of the doubt,
Speaker 1: considering decent size, six foot tall, a little bit skinny,
Speaker 1: but seven point nine raz three point zero and two
Speaker 1: point nine yards per route run before he made the
Speaker 1: transition to Colorado, So he's interesting. It would probably be
Speaker 1: something where you're looking at again like deeper leagues fourteen
Speaker 1: sixteen teamers for Dynasty's where you're getting probably that far
Speaker 1: down the board to stash him on a taxi squad.
Speaker 1: But again, a name that people need to know. Speaking
Speaker 1: of more names to know, man who is at nineteenth
Speaker 1: for your UDFA rankings. As far as their class.
Speaker 2: Nineteen is the Buffalo Bills, and going along with the
Speaker 2: name theme, they signed the best name to team fit
Speaker 2: in this entire class with their top rank signing, which
Speaker 2: was Keton Bills from Utah. So Bills signed with the
Speaker 2: Bills and we'll see if he can hang around. It'd
Speaker 2: be fun to get that Bill's last name on the
Speaker 2: Bills jersey if he can make the active roster offensive
Speaker 2: guard projection to the next level six four three twenty
Speaker 2: four fifty fifth percentile athlete.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: And that's guard is what he played at at Utah,
Speaker 2: left guard in particular twenty six hundred a little over
Speaker 2: twenty six hundred snaps at left guard at Utah, so
Speaker 2: very experienced there, strong run blocker. He needs help in
Speaker 2: pass protection. So that's that's what they're gonna have to
Speaker 2: work on him initially, and then the the top skill guy.
Speaker 2: I'll kick it back to U de Brough to talk
Speaker 2: a little bit about Frank Gore at the bell sign
Speaker 2: Frank Cord Junior, I should say.
Speaker 1: Frank FRANKO junr Junior Junior. This is not the old
Speaker 1: man coming out of retirement, although if you look at
Speaker 1: pictures of Frank Gore, he looks like it's still tote
Speaker 1: the rock fifteen times a game. Looking at Frank Gore
Speaker 1: junior man, I mean, look, I know the size is
Speaker 1: a concern five eight one. I get the testing is
Speaker 1: still a concern, a terrible forty times four point sixty
Speaker 1: nine at that type of size. I'll still bring him
Speaker 1: up here because if you look at the tackle breaking
Speaker 1: metrics in comge, you look at the receiving utility, there's
Speaker 1: still something there that I think necessitates being worthy of
Speaker 1: a dynasty taxi squad, especially if you're a rebuilding team
Speaker 1: or you need running back dep So not a name
Speaker 1: that I'm immensely mentally high on, but again a name
Speaker 1: that does need to get brought up here. Who are
Speaker 1: the names that need to get brought up for the
Speaker 1: number eighteen team coming.
Speaker 2: Into eighteen Las Vegas Raiders. The top guy that they
Speaker 2: signed on my pre draft board was to Lu Griffin
Speaker 2: from Mississippi State in terms of his off wide receiver,
Speaker 2: in terms of his projection there potentially slot, but really
Speaker 2: the reason that you sign him, it's to push yourr
Speaker 2: with to get a job as a returner. In twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, to Lu Griffin led the FBS with thirty
Speaker 2: two point three yards per kick return and when he
Speaker 2: hits his top gear, that kid can fly. He's been
Speaker 2: clocked as high as twenty two miles per hour on
Speaker 2: the GPS. Only other name that I'll bring up is
Speaker 2: the tackle they signed for in TCU, Andrew Kolker, And
Speaker 2: merely because of how aggressive they were and going after him,
Speaker 2: Andrew Cocher ended up getting two hundred thirty thousand dollars
Speaker 2: guaranteed from Las Vegas, and Las Vegas is short on
Speaker 2: offensive tackled up. So I think they're telling you that
Speaker 2: they believe that Andrew Coker has a solid chance of
Speaker 2: making that roster.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's a really good call. Man. Who
Speaker 1: do you think that this seventeen team, the Dallas Cowboys?
Speaker 1: Who do they make good calls on? As far as
Speaker 1: DFA signings?
Speaker 2: The one that I like the Cowboys Usually they're way
Speaker 2: more aggressive in UDFA. This year they sort of sat
Speaker 2: back on it. They only had one guy inside my
Speaker 2: pre draft top three hundred seventy five prospects. That's Brevin
Speaker 2: span Ford the tight end from my local school here
Speaker 2: in Minnesota. I know that BREVN. Span Ford is going
Speaker 2: to be a good blocking like he absolutely can handle
Speaker 2: blocking in the NFL and could be one of the
Speaker 2: better ones in terms of that because he's a mini
Speaker 2: offensive tackle. He's six foot almost seven, two hundred and
Speaker 2: sixty pounds and okay, at least North South athlete at
Speaker 2: sixty eight percentile overall for ras the and but he's
Speaker 2: a weird evaluation in that he was you have the
Speaker 2: blocking stuff with him, and prior to last year, he
Speaker 2: had shown the receiving chops, which was not a surprise
Speaker 2: because he was when he was back in high school.
Speaker 2: He comes out of Saint Cloud Tech, it's high school
Speaker 2: here in Minnesota North he was a stud dual threat
Speaker 2: guy receiver and edge rusher. And what they would do
Speaker 2: with him as a receiver, he'd just be out there
Speaker 2: on the boundary. They would just throw jump offs to him,
Speaker 2: and he like it was unfair. That was the game.
Speaker 2: It was just you know, toss up to that stuff
Speaker 2: to brevnspan Ford and then he you know, he transitions
Speaker 2: to tight end with the golphers and he the receiving
Speaker 2: utility that he had given them. It was more and
Speaker 2: more and more each year up through twenty twenty two.
Speaker 2: Last year it utterly disappeared, and that's what we have
Speaker 2: to figure out what went on there. He was zero
Speaker 2: percentile in PFF receiving grade last year, dropping nine balls,
Speaker 2: only cut twenty five for an incredible twenty six point
Speaker 2: drop eight, and he only had two catches that came
Speaker 2: ten or more yards down field. So that's that's the
Speaker 2: not great Bob. But the year before that, like I said,
Speaker 2: he was showing that receiving utility with the blocking stuff.
Speaker 2: And when he went back to school last year, coming
Speaker 2: into this season, he was viewed as a top five
Speaker 2: tight end in this class. The Cowboys are gonna have
Speaker 2: to figure out in camp what happened to Brevin span
Speaker 2: Ford's receiving utility. Can we get that back on track
Speaker 2: or has it? Has it you know, uh, you know
Speaker 2: gone away into the night like Chuck Knoblock's ability to
Speaker 2: throw to first base. That's what we're gonna have to
Speaker 2: find out with Brere. But he he is. He is
Speaker 2: interesting because.
Speaker 1: That is a Minnesota that was a Minnesota pull. If
Speaker 1: I've ever heard one wow man out of left field. Again,
Speaker 1: we're going with the baseball analogies, man, but I'm with
Speaker 1: you on span Ford again. The the athleticism is not amazing,
Speaker 1: but I think he definitely checks the box of meeting
Speaker 1: the threshold of if he can get back to that
Speaker 1: utility because you talked about the receiving utility or twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two. This is a tight end we're talking about
Speaker 1: with sixteen yards per route run and seventh the PFF
Speaker 1: receiving grade, like it doesn't jump off the film as like,
Speaker 1: holy crap, look at this guy, but he could beat
Speaker 1: his own coverage. I'm with you in that. I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a good blocker in the NFL as
Speaker 1: an inline guy that can beat linebackers, can win versus
Speaker 1: his own coverage. I think that definitely. If you look
Speaker 1: at this also, this this tight end depth chart behind
Speaker 1: Jake Ferguson, you got a lot of like Luke Schoomaker, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: could he beat him out possible? Peyton Hendershot, could he
Speaker 1: beat him out for a roster spot? Again? Possible? So
Speaker 1: I look at this depth chart right behind Jake Ferguson
Speaker 1: as being wide open, where if you have talent, he
Speaker 1: bounces back and he proves he can play, he could
Speaker 1: stick on this roster and maybe as the tight end two.
Speaker 1: So I'm totally with you, man. And if you're looking
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Speaker 1: the median right here at coming in at sixteen?
Speaker 2: That would be the Pittsburgh Steelers, who end up signing
Speaker 2: three guys in my top three hundred pre draft board.
Speaker 2: No one that I had a draftable great on, but
Speaker 2: Beanie Bishop, the cornerback from West Virginia, was right outside
Speaker 2: of that. I comped him to a Meek Robertson five,
Speaker 2: nine hundred and eighty pounds, sixty third percentile athlete on him.
Speaker 2: The other two were offensive skill guys. Dwan Edwards, a
Speaker 2: guy de bro we saw down in Mobile at the
Speaker 2: Senior ball. I'll let you talk a little bit more
Speaker 2: about him, but I had m two hundred and sixty
Speaker 2: first on my board. Not a surprise that he didn't
Speaker 2: get drafted because the measurables, but the Steelers did well
Speaker 2: I think to bring him in at least as at Cambody.
Speaker 2: And then the one that I was more interested in
Speaker 2: was John Rice Plumbley, the quarterback from UCF who was
Speaker 2: also a UCF center fielder and at times on the
Speaker 2: same day where he would play the one sport, and
Speaker 2: then they'd take him in the to the other side
Speaker 2: of the facility and he says, you know, put his now,
Speaker 2: he's putting his football, he's taking a baseball jersey. Ob
Speaker 2: he's putting his football pads on. And then you know,
Speaker 2: playing the other one. He he's he's like a renaissance man.
Speaker 2: This kid. Earlier in his career, he started a quarterback
Speaker 2: in Rich Rodriguez's system, by the way, giving the hook
Speaker 2: to Matt Corrall, because you know the Rich rodrigaz system
Speaker 2: obviously Pat White, the old West Virginia, the spread option stuff.
Speaker 2: John Rice's Plumbley, a fabulous athlete, was a really good
Speaker 2: fit for that six foot two, pot three eighty eight
Speaker 2: percentile athlete. Then the next coaching staff came in, they
Speaker 2: put corral back in that so John Rice Plumbley played
Speaker 2: slot receiver for a bit that the next season. Then
Speaker 2: he transfers to UCF where the you know, he took
Speaker 2: over as the starting quarterback for Gus Mel's on there
Speaker 2: past couple of years. And then of course the the
Speaker 2: baseball stuff. He's not only a good athlete, he's got
Speaker 2: some snap in that arm, more so than you would
Speaker 2: think from his frame and like the baseball stuff that
Speaker 2: that's where you know, you can see that when he's
Speaker 2: chucking that ball from the warning track in center field.
Speaker 2: He's got that. The question with him is if he
Speaker 2: just focuses on the one sport, can the Steelers improve
Speaker 2: the rest of it with him? Like the thing of
Speaker 2: standing in the pocket and having to go through the
Speaker 2: reads can be an issue for Rice Plummy. Sometimes you
Speaker 2: see him locking onto that pre delineated read, missing some
Speaker 2: open guys that are on the other side of the field,
Speaker 2: and then the accuracy comes and goes. That thing. The
Speaker 2: latter I think is something where it's more easily you
Speaker 2: can at least improve upon that because it's his mechanics.
Speaker 2: And sometimes you see the baseball thrower and John Rice
Speaker 2: Plumbley where he's whipping that thing like he would whip
Speaker 2: a baseball, and it's like John Rice, we just there's
Speaker 2: a couple modulations we have to make here. But he
Speaker 2: can absolutely get the ball down the field, as mister
Speaker 2: Javon Baker would let you know. Javon had one of
Speaker 2: the highest aid dots in the nation last year's Deeper
Speaker 2: and I talked a lot about this spring and John
Speaker 2: rice plummy is the guy that could get it down
Speaker 2: to him. The pocket presence thing, the accuracy, fine tuning
Speaker 2: those mechanics, the technique is what the Steers are gonna
Speaker 2: have to work on there. But he has an interesting, versatile,
Speaker 2: fleshed out skill set where he's interesting to bring into camp.
Speaker 2: And maybe maybe maybe you harken back to a poor
Speaker 2: man's slash kind of a thing with John rice Plumby,
Speaker 2: because you have a lot of different utility, a lot
Speaker 2: of different scaling, you try them at different positions. Maybe
Speaker 2: if it doesn't work out at QB.
Speaker 1: Well, and we hear all this stuff coming out of
Speaker 1: the Steelers camp and stuff talking about oh what do
Speaker 1: we use and I don't think this happens, but do
Speaker 1: we use justin fields as possibly with these new kick
Speaker 1: return rules and stuff? And I'm like, you gotta put
Speaker 1: justin fields out there for returns. You could just use
Speaker 1: John riss Plumbley. Just keep him on the roster, baby,
Speaker 1: he's definitely got the freaking athleticism throor four point five
Speaker 1: to one freaking forty yard ash. You talked about his athleticism,
Speaker 1: this guy in twenty nineteen as a freaking freshman at Ole,
Speaker 1: miss ran for over one thousand yards, so I think
Speaker 1: there is absolutely a possibility. And you look at how
Speaker 1: the Steelers are stacking up this quarterback room with athletes
Speaker 1: and running with Russell Wilson justin Fields. I'm sorry, the
Speaker 1: person that completes that room, that fits that type of
Speaker 1: mold is not Kyle Allen. It's John Rice Plumbley. So
Speaker 1: I think that he should be considered the favorite, not
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen, to win possibly the QB three job in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: And if that's the case, yes he deserves and should
Speaker 1: be on somebody's dynasty taxi squad man. But moving on
Speaker 1: to this next team, dude, and this is always a
Speaker 1: popular team to talk about because everybody loves offense. They
Speaker 1: love this team at all parts of pieces. Who made
Speaker 1: the fifteenth spot for DFA, Yeah.
Speaker 2: The fifteen slot coming in there is the San Francisco
Speaker 2: forty nine ers. Not the most inspiring class, but there
Speaker 2: was a couple interesting names out here. The biggest one
Speaker 2: for me by far is Cody Schrader there running back
Speaker 2: from Missouri. He is a good fit for San Francisco.
Speaker 2: His zone blocking scheme, that's what he ran at Missouri.
Speaker 2: He has jobbed for that. He has good vision, very
Speaker 2: good footwork. He runs with pace and tempo as those
Speaker 2: those zone blocks start setting up, and he does a
Speaker 2: really good job of denoting, like you know, it's like patients, patients,
Speaker 2: pagers waiting for it, waiting for it, and then denoting
Speaker 2: that time where Okay, now's my moment. The one cut
Speaker 2: thing change changed the path of him, and now we're
Speaker 2: getting urging through that hole. I really liked that about him.
Speaker 2: I think probably the forty nine ers did as well.
Speaker 2: He breaks arm tackle attempts and bounces away from off
Speaker 2: angle attempts as well. Very tough kid, more on the
Speaker 2: grinder aspect, you know, side of the polarity. Five eight
Speaker 2: and a half two hundred and two pounds and only
Speaker 2: a twenty third percentile athlete. That's obviously why he didn't
Speaker 2: end up getting drafted. But he was a bellcow from
Speaker 2: Missouri last year and a really good Missouri team that
Speaker 2: went to a BCS ball and upset Ohio State, and
Speaker 2: and Cody Schrader played really well in that game as well.
Speaker 2: The one thing we didn't get to see as much
Speaker 2: with him was the receiving utility at Missouri because their
Speaker 2: their wide receiving core. People need to understand this about
Speaker 2: it is the Missouri's wide receiving cor is nasty. Next
Speaker 2: spring when we're talking Luther Burden, their wide receiver one,
Speaker 2: he's gonna be a first round pick, so we're gonna
Speaker 2: be talking about him a lot. But their second and
Speaker 2: third receivers were also good, so they just didn't That's
Speaker 2: where the usage was going when the ball was in
Speaker 2: the air, so like that's where Traders sort of got
Speaker 2: his blows. But he we talked to him down at
Speaker 2: Mobile and he said he wanted to show his receiving
Speaker 2: chops down there because he didn't get to show it
Speaker 2: at Missouri. I was impressed with him. He ran good routes,
Speaker 2: he was getting separation and catching the ball down the field.
Speaker 2: I didn't I didn't see Cody Schrader flubbing balls down there.
Speaker 2: So at least he showed you that He's gonna have
Speaker 2: to show more of that in camp because he is
Speaker 2: a terrible pass blocker. He does not bring the same
Speaker 2: sort of lunch paale dog mentality that he does in
Speaker 2: running that he you know, into the pass pro element
Speaker 2: of his game. But he was the most interesting guy
Speaker 2: in that class for me.
Speaker 1: T Bro, Yeah, I don't disagree with you, man. I
Speaker 1: like Cody Schrader definitely showed me a lot more mobile
Speaker 1: than I was expecting. And the other thing is five
Speaker 1: to eight I get it, two outs. But he has
Speaker 1: compactly built, Like if you look at his legs when
Speaker 1: I noticed that it's some mobile, He's thick, dude. His
Speaker 1: lower half is thick. He can run through arm tackles.
Speaker 1: Just like you said. I wasn't surprised so much by
Speaker 1: how he tested, but I think he is definitely going
Speaker 1: to stick on the forty nine ers roster. Two different parts.
Speaker 1: I think he maximizes every single carry and run that
Speaker 1: he has given. His vision is really good. He follows
Speaker 1: his blocks, he gets every blade of grass that he's
Speaker 1: supposed to get with his with his touches. So I
Speaker 1: think NFL coaches coaching stats are going to love him.
Speaker 1: And as much as that type of work ethic to
Speaker 1: ascend to what he did in college is definitely going
Speaker 1: to carry over to the NFL as well as if
Speaker 1: you talk about the composition of that roster, Elijah Mitchell
Speaker 1: and Jordan Mason are both free agents after this season,
Speaker 1: so it could be Cody Schrader. If it's not Isaac Grindo,
Speaker 1: it could be Cody Schrader that's backing up CMC after
Speaker 1: this season. The other guy that stuck out to me
Speaker 1: and I wasn't expecting to find this guy when as we're,
Speaker 1: you know, preparing for this show. But Tanner Mordecai, man, like,
Speaker 1: holy crap, man, what an athlete. That's the first thing
Speaker 1: I got to bring up here nine point two raz.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about just box after box after
Speaker 1: box after box as far as athleticism. Just check check
Speaker 1: check four point five forty. You look at his vert,
Speaker 1: has broad his shuttle, his three cone, all of these
Speaker 1: testing metrics are checking in as the eighty third percentile
Speaker 1: or higher. I wasn't expecting to see that thor The
Speaker 1: other thing about him is went from SMU, transferred to Wisconsin,
Speaker 1: broke his hand in his final season, so we weren't
Speaker 1: able to see the full season out of him. I
Speaker 1: liked some of the things I saw in film from him.
Speaker 1: I thought his accuracy ball placement was pretty good. He
Speaker 1: has to work on getting through progressions. A lot of
Speaker 1: plays where he's missing open receivers just doesn't even see
Speaker 1: them in the progression. But the thing that needs to
Speaker 1: get brought up with that athleticism is the rushing utility
Speaker 1: had at least last year thirty six rushing yards or
Speaker 1: higher and fifty percent of his starts. You're telling me
Speaker 1: like this guy would be competing with Brandon Allen for
Speaker 1: the QB three spot, and we're looking at a depth
Speaker 1: chart for San Francisco like they're kind of tipping their
Speaker 1: hand here, Like I know they went down the Trey
Speaker 1: Lance well in previous years that didn't work out. But
Speaker 1: the guys that they are putting on this roster behind
Speaker 1: brock Party kind of fit a certain archetype for like
Speaker 1: signing Tanner Mordecai, and you also have Josh Dobbs, who
Speaker 1: is an athletic guy that can offer some things with
Speaker 1: his legs. It's interesting, I'll say that, And so I'm
Speaker 1: not projecting massive things. I hope he makes the team.
Speaker 1: I think there's a path to that. What are your
Speaker 1: thoughts on Tanner before we move on that.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. He is interesting. Earlier in his
Speaker 2: career at SMU, he was he showed some stuff well
Speaker 2: first of all, but he began at Oklahoma and then
Speaker 2: he couldn't get on the field and then which no
Speaker 2: shame in that if you look back at the quarterbacks
Speaker 2: that Lincoln Riley had there. Then he goes to SMU
Speaker 2: and he ripped it up at SMU and then he
Speaker 2: used his COVID season to go what was on paper
Speaker 2: on on the surface and inspired transfer portal decision to
Speaker 2: go to Wisconsin, joined Luke Fickles's first team and play
Speaker 2: in the Philongo offense. Inspired Philongo came comes came from
Speaker 2: unc inspiring because the previous quarterbacks for Phil Longo, they
Speaker 2: all got drafted into the NFL, including the last one
Speaker 2: very high. That was Drake May. Prior to that, it
Speaker 2: was Sam Howell. Prior to that, it was Matt Correll.
Speaker 2: Now now we're really going full circle with his full thing.
Speaker 2: But Phil Longo helped all those guys put up absolutely
Speaker 2: bazooka numbers. So that's where Mordecai went, you know, hoping
Speaker 2: that that was going to be his audition. Then I
Speaker 2: get drafted and he struggled at Wisconsin last year. That
Speaker 2: that whole offense was you know, and you have to
Speaker 2: say they were some of the they brought in guys
Speaker 2: in the portal like Morte kind a couple other guys,
Speaker 2: but they were also I don't want to use the
Speaker 2: word stuck, but there was a lot of guys that
Speaker 2: had been recruited there for the power run scheme that,
Speaker 2: as everyone out there knows, Wisconsin had run for years
Speaker 2: and years and years and years and years, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden you switched to Phil Longo spread
Speaker 2: system out of the shotgun where it's just a totally
Speaker 2: different thing with the single back, and some of the
Speaker 2: pieces that were the carryover pieces just were not great
Speaker 2: fits for that. I'm not trying to give Tanner Mordecai.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to excuse the play last year, but
Speaker 2: there are some contextual things to suggest why it wasn't
Speaker 2: quite as good last year. And you do have to
Speaker 2: say he was a guy that Oklahoma targeted. They're only
Speaker 2: going after the top quarterbacks coming out of high school.
Speaker 2: And then when Mordecai got a shot at SMU, played really,
Speaker 2: really good. But they're gonna have to flip back the
Speaker 2: clock on him the passing game too when he was
Speaker 2: at SMU, and then, like you said, potentially leverage some
Speaker 2: value out of that athleticism.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree, man, he is very very interesting.
Speaker 1: Did you see anybody, because I'm just gonna I'll tell
Speaker 1: you straight up this next team up here, I didn't
Speaker 1: see anybody from a skill perspective that I thought was
Speaker 1: super super interesting. I think there's one of two names
Speaker 1: that I mean, you might be bringing up as far
Speaker 1: as skill wise here. What did you see out of
Speaker 1: the fourteenth rank Miami Dolphins UDFA class.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Dolphins, they didn't get any one in
Speaker 2: my pre draft top two twenty five, and they only
Speaker 2: got one higher than three hundred on my board, but
Speaker 2: they had an interesting strategy where it was sort of
Speaker 2: opposite of was it the Cardinals before where they only
Speaker 2: had the two guys but they were both higher ranked.
Speaker 2: The Dolphins went the opposite way and it was like
Speaker 2: spray the board. They ended up getting ten guys on
Speaker 2: my pre draft five hundred, all ranked between two thirty four.
Speaker 2: Was the highest guy Grayson Murphy, the brother of Gabriel,
Speaker 2: the aforementioned Gabriel down to four fifty six. So it
Speaker 2: was and most of them, nine of them, the other
Speaker 2: ones were three hundred or lower Grays and Murphy is
Speaker 2: so just like we're going to talk about with Gabriel
Speaker 2: later with regards to the Vikings, they were very good
Speaker 2: edge rushers at Texas had gone there as twins. They
Speaker 2: were great, but the pressure numbers, the sack numbers, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Then they transferred up to u C. L A the
Speaker 2: past couple of years and they got to do the
Speaker 2: their take team routine with mister le So UCLA had
Speaker 2: the nastiest pass rush the past couple of years. Some
Speaker 2: of the other parts of their team, Chip Kelly, it
Speaker 2: went wayward on him, but the offense so frustrated Chip
Speaker 2: that he ended up leaving the school to go to
Speaker 2: Ohio State. He's like, I want to I want to
Speaker 2: coach talented offensive players again. But the defense was nasty
Speaker 2: for for UCLA. So it was it was weird for
Speaker 2: Chip Kelly team. But the Murphy twins were a predominant.
Speaker 2: Part of that reason both of them didn't get drafted
Speaker 2: is because even though they have the athleticism and the
Speaker 2: pass rushing profile, both of them have crazy short arms,
Speaker 2: like some of the shortest arms in the entire class
Speaker 2: of anyone that at that position that tested even at
Speaker 2: a pro day. So that's why he fell down. As
Speaker 2: far as the other guys. The one sort of overall
Speaker 2: thing that I noticed about this Miami class. They you
Speaker 2: know again, they weren't they weren't shelling out for the
Speaker 2: top undrafted guys, but they were taking sort of calculated risks.
Speaker 2: Either on Murphy, it was the short arm, so we'll
Speaker 2: bring in you know, you had it on the field.
Speaker 2: But then a series of other guys, it was on
Speaker 2: athletic traits. Mark Perry. This eight different TCU Storm Duck,
Speaker 2: the all name Storm Duck at cornerback come from Louisville
Speaker 2: this past time he had transferred up from the G
Speaker 2: five and then wide receiver Ja Kwon Burton are all
Speaker 2: stud athletes Ja Kwon Burton that the last one more
Speaker 2: interesting for fantasy guys. Potentially two time Feldman freaklister. The
Speaker 2: consistency wasn't there for him at FAU, But then again,
Speaker 2: the FA's passing game stunk the past couple of years,
Speaker 2: so you at least have to give him that. Ja
Speaker 2: Kwon Burton potentially a slot option and a special teams guy.
Speaker 2: Storm Duck is the guy that we all need to
Speaker 2: hope and pray that he improves his instincts and technique
Speaker 2: because the athleticism is all there and he has flash
Speaker 2: plays as well, it's just there's some He's like the
Speaker 2: Jason Bean of cornerbacks, where there's a couple of plays
Speaker 2: per game. He just gets torched and it's like, bro,
Speaker 2: what were you, like, why were you looking into the
Speaker 2: backfield on that play? It clearly wasn't a running play,
Speaker 2: or he gets crossed up by by like very straightforward moves.
Speaker 2: Got to work on Storm Duck with that. But we
Speaker 2: have to hope he gets there because he's obviously going
Speaker 2: to be an all Name team guy if he does.
Speaker 2: The only other guy that all shout out is Gavin
Speaker 2: Hardison from UTEP, the quarterback, just for this reason. He's
Speaker 2: got a gun that he has. Gavin Hardison legitimately has
Speaker 2: one of the best arms in this class, just pure arms.
Speaker 2: But he reads the field like it's covered in Sanskrit.
Speaker 2: But he makes the most baffling decisions that you'll ever see.
Speaker 2: And last year there was some you know, there was
Speaker 2: hope for him because, like I said, he can whip
Speaker 2: that ball, has a legitimately enormous arm and very pretty
Speaker 2: spiral and when you're just you know watching him, you
Speaker 2: just you know a little bit from the tree tops.
Speaker 2: He's like, man, this kid could be some, but last
Speaker 2: year he was struggling so bad with the decision making
Speaker 2: of throwing the ball to the opponents that utep a
Speaker 2: team that it had a coaching staff that was desperately
Speaker 2: trying to cling onto their jobs. It ended up failing.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to say it was Gavin Hardison's faunt,
Speaker 2: but Gavin Hardison's play did not help, which the coaching
Speaker 2: staff explicitly told you by benching him last year. So
Speaker 2: NFL type arm all day, but the coaching staff of
Speaker 2: the Dolphins are going to have to work on the
Speaker 2: rest of it with mister Gavin Hardison.
Speaker 1: Your comp for him, brock Berlin is a name that
Speaker 1: I have not heard in a very, very.
Speaker 2: Very long time. Shout out to the state of Florida.
Speaker 2: We've had some symmetry that ever, that one that took
Speaker 2: me back.
Speaker 1: I read that comp and I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: I'm in the wayback machine right now, man. But getting
Speaker 1: back to the present day, man who makes thirteenth on
Speaker 1: the list.
Speaker 2: The Tennessee Titans do and one guy. Now we're going
Speaker 2: to start, you know, as we go forward here, Now
Speaker 2: we're going to get to some more interesting both prospects
Speaker 2: in general that I think I have a really good
Speaker 2: shot tank, but also in particular for our audience, the
Speaker 2: Dynasty Dash fantasy guys. The Titans crop had one. Dylan Johnson,
Speaker 2: the running back from Washington via Mississippi State, was the
Speaker 2: two hundred and second r prospect on my pre draft board.
Speaker 2: The one guy that the Titans guy who had a
Speaker 2: draftable great although they had one other that was just
Speaker 2: outside that, Khalat Duke, the edge rusher from Kansas State.
Speaker 2: Dylan Johnson interested me and deebro We had talked about him.
Speaker 2: I believe on the Sleeper episode that we did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you brought him on that one.
Speaker 2: So the one thing he does categorically does not have
Speaker 2: is foot speed. He had a four six eight forty
Speaker 2: to confirm that during the pre draft process. He also
Speaker 2: had a poor broad jump. However, so Dylan Johnson gets
Speaker 2: recruited out of high school by Mike Leach into that
Speaker 2: air raid system and caught a metric ton of balls
Speaker 2: in his first three seasons at Mississippi State, one hundred
Speaker 2: and forty nine of them to be exact, over those
Speaker 2: first three seasons. Very valued receiver there. That stuff was
Speaker 2: all good and also whether this was something he brought
Speaker 2: to college or whether this is something that he just
Speaker 2: worked on and improved that as a matter of pragmatism
Speaker 2: because of the system he was in. Dylan Johnson a
Speaker 2: very good pass blocker as well, and that needs to
Speaker 2: be noted because this class did not have a lot
Speaker 2: of them at that position, but he was one of them.
Speaker 2: Then for his final season, Dylan Johnson transfers from Missippi
Speaker 2: State to Washington and his usage flips where it goes
Speaker 2: from being the predominant throwing the ball throwing the ball
Speaker 2: but not as many carries to where last year on
Speaker 2: that Washington team that ends up making the national title game,
Speaker 2: Dylan Johnson had two hundred and thirty three rushing attempts
Speaker 2: for nearly twelve hundred yards and sixteen touchdowns. The kid
Speaker 2: is tough as nails. He was injured from November on
Speaker 2: last year at least, and played through all these different injuries.
Speaker 2: The Texas game, people will recall he had to get
Speaker 2: carried off the field and it almost turned into it
Speaker 2: like his body just sort of gave out on him
Speaker 2: because he had been playing through all these injuries and
Speaker 2: it almost turned into this weird thing where then the
Speaker 2: clock stopped, which which almost gave Texas a shot to
Speaker 2: come back at the very end. But he couldn't really
Speaker 2: blame Dylan Johnson for that because he had been played,
Speaker 2: like I said, playing hurt for it seemed the entire
Speaker 2: time I thought for sure he was going to be
Speaker 2: out for the National Title game. No, Dylan Johnson was
Speaker 2: back for that. Toughest nails. Toughest nails can handle the usage.
Speaker 2: He's going to be a value added to the passing game.
Speaker 2: The only thing for Dylan Johnson in camp is to
Speaker 2: prove that his lack of foot speed, lack of explosion,
Speaker 2: that that is not nullifying to an NFL future, that
Speaker 2: he will be able to provide enough a value add
Speaker 2: in the passing game, maybe some short yarded stuff like
Speaker 2: he did at Washington, like I said last year for
Speaker 2: the runner up sixteen touchdowns to carry on the roster.
Speaker 2: But this is an interesting player, especially because after the
Speaker 2: top two guys that the Titans have in that room,
Speaker 2: they don't have a lot. So there is an RB
Speaker 2: three job that will be up for grabs in camp,
Speaker 2: and Dylan Johnson is going to be near the top
Speaker 2: of the line in that Derby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I fully agree with everything you said about Dylan
Speaker 1: Johnson there, buddy. The only thing I'll add is one
Speaker 1: point two to two or higher yards per route run
Speaker 1: in two of the last three seasons. They if he
Speaker 1: wins that RB three job, he needs to be on
Speaker 1: Dynasty rosters. Just I mean, absolutely needs to be on
Speaker 1: Dynasty rosters. All right, baby, we're cracking into the top
Speaker 1: twelve teams. Thor who gets.
Speaker 2: To go first? The Baltimore Ravens come in at twelfth.
Speaker 2: They had six guys in my pre draft five hundred.
Speaker 2: One of them they're top signing is the reason that
Speaker 2: they ended up getting this high because the other five
Speaker 2: were outside my top three hundred. But they got juiced
Speaker 2: in my metrics because they signed bow Braid, another shop,
Speaker 2: local discount here lockdown the Borders to sign bow Braid,
Speaker 2: a kid who grew up in the state of Maryland,
Speaker 2: went to play for the Maryland Terps in college, and
Speaker 2: now the Ravens are are bringing him home, you know,
Speaker 2: keeping him home. I guess I should say he bo Braid.
Speaker 2: I was surprised he didn't get drafted because his game,
Speaker 2: it's the prototypical backup safety in the NFL in that
Speaker 2: he gives you run support and he doesn't embarrass himself
Speaker 2: in coverage, so long as you keep them away from
Speaker 2: the one on one stuff where he has f is
Speaker 2: back to the quarterback. He gonna get singed if you
Speaker 2: do that. But if it's just the full field in
Speaker 2: front of him, the free safety thing, surveying the whole thing,
Speaker 2: and then coming down hill making the decision, then that's
Speaker 2: the stuff that he is good at. He's reliable at it.
Speaker 2: Like I said, he will come up and help and
Speaker 2: run support. He also gives you a special teams utility,
Speaker 2: So I think that kid hangs around as a backup safety,
Speaker 2: special teamer. I don't know that he gives you anymore
Speaker 2: that the athletic limitations. He's six foot two three fifty
Speaker 2: third percentile athlete. But he showed enough at Maryland to
Speaker 2: project as a guy who's gonna hang on to the
Speaker 2: back of an NFL roster, and I think he's gonna
Speaker 2: do it by saying and then say to Maryland, yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: The only guy I'm gonna bring up here is Chris Collier.
Speaker 1: And if people don't know the name, well you need
Speaker 1: to go look at some lock Haven tape. Yes, I
Speaker 1: said lock Haven. Look at this guy though, for five ten,
Speaker 1: two oh three, nine point seven one raz four point
Speaker 1: five forty. He's got the size, he's got the athleticism.
Speaker 1: I mean checking box after box eighty second percentile or
Speaker 1: higher in almost every athletic testing metric after Derrick Henry
Speaker 1: on this roster thwarts, you got what Justice Hill Well,
Speaker 1: Baltimore knows what they got in him. Keaton Mitchell's coming
Speaker 1: off the acl Rashi and Ali. I'm sorry, I'm just
Speaker 1: not worried about him and Collier. Look, is there something
Speaker 1: to be said about the jump massive jumping competition. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: but also a player at lock Haven last year over
Speaker 1: almost fourteen hundred rushing yards fifteen total touchdowns. Dude, like
Speaker 1: he's got the utility, he's got the testing. He's a
Speaker 1: guy that's interesting man. I mean, look, I couldn't even
Speaker 1: watch a ton of film. I had to go like
Speaker 1: literally to YouTube and watch try to watch find something
Speaker 1: on this guy so I can get a sense of
Speaker 1: his game. Ran through arm, tackle, surprising burst. I mean,
Speaker 1: the testing shows up on his film. So you're talking
Speaker 1: about deep dynasty guys that people have never heard of.
Speaker 1: And while we're doing this freaking show, man, Collier's a
Speaker 1: guy that I'm earmarking. I will be adding a bunch
Speaker 1: in my leagues just looking at that depth chart.
Speaker 2: Monster, deep bro, your cop.
Speaker 1: Was interesting too. You had Antoni Pitman. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: very very interesting man. But now we've broken into the
Speaker 1: top twelve. What's the next team in the docket?
Speaker 2: Next coming up is the Chicago Bears, who did something
Speaker 2: very similar to what they did in last year's UDFA
Speaker 2: process when they signed my top undrafted quarterback Tyson Bagent
Speaker 2: Hung on the roster. We got to see him a
Speaker 2: bet he started in four games. This year, they did
Speaker 2: the exact same thing. They signed Austin Reid from Western Kentucky,
Speaker 2: my top undrafted quarterback. I had him just at the
Speaker 2: very end of my draftabole grades. In fact, the Bears
Speaker 2: ended up getting three guys who I just inside that
Speaker 2: ranked two hundred and forty third to fifty fourth on
Speaker 2: my pre draft board. And like I mentioned, two hundred
Speaker 2: fifty seven picks in the draft, So all those guys
Speaker 2: come in right there. But Austin Reid threw, so he
Speaker 2: started out at West Florida. You shout it out John
Speaker 2: Giles before the wide receiver there. West Florida is a
Speaker 2: D two school and for people that don't know out there,
Speaker 2: they throw the ball a whole heck of a lot.
Speaker 2: So that's where Austin Reid like began and and won
Speaker 2: a national champion D two National championship in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 2: Earlier in his career West Florida. That opened up the
Speaker 2: opportunity with the FBS programs after the COVID season, so
Speaker 2: he got a shot with Western Kentucky and he goes
Speaker 2: there and throw last two seasons seventy one to twenty
Speaker 2: two TDI and T rate for Austin Reid. Now, it's
Speaker 2: a gimmicky offense, the air raid offense that Helton runs
Speaker 2: there where the ball gets out really quick. I made
Speaker 2: this conflation several times during the draft process. But Bonix
Speaker 2: and Austin Reid were the two guys in the categories,
Speaker 2: way at the top above everyone in terms of the
Speaker 2: release time, the average release time. They both were by
Speaker 2: far the quickest in this class because both systems, it's like,
Speaker 2: here's your read beforehand. No pun intended with the guy
Speaker 2: we're talking about now, but here it is beforehand. Get
Speaker 2: that ball out quick and then the other thing that
Speaker 2: lowest A dots in the class. So those two guys
Speaker 2: were hand holding on both those different things. There was
Speaker 2: opportunities with Reid when it wasn't that the screen right
Speaker 2: away where he'd stand back in the pocket. He did
Speaker 2: show me the ability to go to the other side
Speaker 2: of the field on the reads when he had to,
Speaker 2: and he does have accuracy in the short area. The
Speaker 2: thing that he categorically lacks is an NFL arm to
Speaker 2: go downtown? Can he he could pay per cut you
Speaker 2: shorten and intermediate if you give him that system where
Speaker 2: where some of this stuff is on the play, you
Speaker 2: give it to him. Or it's the quick hitting concepts,
Speaker 2: the timing concepts, some of the anticipatory stuff he can
Speaker 2: do as well. But when you ask that kid to
Speaker 2: throw the ball forty yards or more down the field,
Speaker 2: that's where you're asking for trouble. Didn't really do it
Speaker 2: in college a whole lot, so that that sort of
Speaker 2: caps the ceiling there. But he's gonna be fighting Brett
Speaker 2: Rippian for QB three duties. I assume Bagin is locked
Speaker 2: into to QB two, but the Bears could have the
Speaker 2: youngest quarterback room in the NFL. If Austin Reid ends up,
Speaker 2: they might anyway, but if he ends up beating a Rippyan,
Speaker 2: because then you'd have the two rookies, obviously the number
Speaker 2: one pick on top there and then beagent from last year.
Speaker 2: The other guy I wanted to shout out was James
Speaker 2: Kromer from James Madison via Rutgers. He at Rutgers, he
Speaker 2: didn't do it, but he's an edge rusher with some
Speaker 2: interesting measurables six foot three and a half, two seventy four,
Speaker 2: ninety six percentile athleticism, so he can he can get
Speaker 2: on top of you. The thing last year at James
Speaker 2: Madison was the he broke out there and that's what
Speaker 2: gave him this shot and was enough for me to
Speaker 2: put him. Like I said at the very end of
Speaker 2: my draft able grades, the Bears are going to have
Speaker 2: to decide with that kid. Do we try to bulk
Speaker 2: him up because the frame suggests it could happen to
Speaker 2: play inside situationally, or do we want to try to
Speaker 2: maybe even get him to lose a little bit of
Speaker 2: weight for the edge thing. Because the thing that that
Speaker 2: concerned me about that it was the lateral agility and
Speaker 2: the bend on him out on the edge. But you
Speaker 2: have an interesting, you know, size at lettuces package with him.
Speaker 2: So definitely the sort of guy that you want to
Speaker 2: bring in UDFA for the Bears. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree. Man. The only reason then put Austin
Speaker 1: Reid on my list is just the lack of arm strength.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna hinder him a ton, and really,
Speaker 1: what kind of ceiling does he have? All Right, So
Speaker 1: we have gone through twenty two NFL teams so far.
Speaker 1: For look, I know we got still the top ten
Speaker 1: to get to. But hold on, everybody, get your popcorn ready.
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