Speaker 1: Welcome to Guys We Fucked. Guys We Guys, we Book.
Speaker 1: I'm Christina, I'm Corren. We're sorry about last night, the
Speaker 1: anti slut shaming podcast. I never stopped. Hey, what up, suckers.
Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Guys We Fuck. It's the
Speaker 1: anti slut chaming podcast. I'm Coren, I'm Christina, and we
Speaker 1: love you so much. It's it's midnight. We're in so late.
Speaker 1: We're in a sound proof room at Palo Alto, California,
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Speaker 1: you guys so much. Everyone who's come out to these
Speaker 1: tour shows, holy shit, Yeah, you guys are insane. A
Speaker 1: lot of yelling, yeah, a lot of it. Was so
Speaker 1: nice to meet everybody after the shows. Uh, thank you
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Speaker 1: And everybody who's come up to us after the shows
Speaker 1: and said hi, or sometimes said really sad things that
Speaker 1: have happened to them, and we really appreciate that. We
Speaker 1: appreciate that sad things happened to you know, we appreciate
Speaker 1: your honesty and willingness to open up to us. Oh gosh, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I appreciate that almost as much as I appreciated
Speaker 1: all the emails from men commenting on our Hillary Clinton thoughts.
Speaker 1: It's so interesting. Literally, not one fucking email from a
Speaker 1: woman that oh good, that one against negative. No, not
Speaker 1: no negative emails, but a lot of man splaining for
Speaker 1: why we were incorrect about thoughts on Hillary Clinton. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that my personal feelings on on an individual
Speaker 1: could be incorrect, but they can be. You know, one
Speaker 1: thing I kind of go buy in life. If someone
Speaker 1: is mad, I want to hear him out. I want
Speaker 1: to listen because I feel like you can't be lying
Speaker 1: about being mad. No, I'm sure they are mad. The
Speaker 1: differences I just truly don't care, no, no no, no. What
Speaker 1: I'm saying is that when we expressed our frustrations over
Speaker 1: all this horseshit election. We're upset for a reason, right,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know it's sometimes it's I know, especially
Speaker 1: for me, it's very hard to articulate something when I'm upset. Um,
Speaker 1: But if I'm upset, or if anybody is upset, I
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Speaker 1: we love you, You're great. A lot of you are
Speaker 1: like totally thank you so much. And all of the
Speaker 1: straight white men out there who are like, hey, this
Speaker 1: sucks that this happened, but I will be an ally
Speaker 1: for women and for the LGBT community and for minorities.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. You don't get enough thank yous.
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Speaker 1: Let's read some emails. If you are interested in emailing us,
Speaker 1: our email address is sorry about Last Night Show at
Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Send us your thoughts. Uh. The subject
Speaker 1: line of this email is Hillary Clinton comments from a
Speaker 1: Trump support her. Hey, Karon and Christina, I just listen
Speaker 1: to your most recent episode when Karin sends out a
Speaker 1: message to the listeners after Trump won the election, and
Speaker 1: I just wanted to give some insight into the mind
Speaker 1: of a Trump supporter in a professional manner and point
Speaker 1: out a few flaws about the intro. First off, I'd
Speaker 1: like to point out that I did vote for Trump.
Speaker 1: I do enjoy your podcasts, and I definitely think your
Speaker 1: work for women is important and meaningful. Thanks. I'm not
Speaker 1: putting women down in any way, and I hope you
Speaker 1: understand that my vote for Trump does not reflect the
Speaker 1: way I think about women. I'd like to begin by
Speaker 1: mentioning a few times where Karin wanted women to band
Speaker 1: together to get the first female presidential nominee into the
Speaker 1: White House. Many women who did not vote for Hillary
Speaker 1: did so because of the questionable record she's had and
Speaker 1: the distrust they felt for her. I don't believe that
Speaker 1: women should band together to get a woman into the
Speaker 1: White House who does not embody the characteristics and motives
Speaker 1: they identify with. It is also important to point out
Speaker 1: that the Democratic Party affiliation of Hillary. A president with
Speaker 1: this party affiliation has a specific agenda they must be
Speaker 1: here adhered to. I know, for me, the thing that
Speaker 1: frightened me about electing Hillary was not only the distressed
Speaker 1: and questionable record, but the duration of her time and government.
Speaker 1: The episode before the one, that one when you spoke
Speaker 1: with Romany Malco, I remember one of you two commenting
Speaker 1: about how people at the top look out for each other.
Speaker 1: And this really spoke to me because that stigma you
Speaker 1: put on those imposition of power is amplified to me
Speaker 1: with Hillary. She has been a politician for a very
Speaker 1: long time. Her connections with those in the highest level
Speaker 1: of government is extensive, and that has put her in
Speaker 1: a pompous position of authority that I don't believe should
Speaker 1: lead this country. I think politics corupts people in their motives,
Speaker 1: and in a time where more and more people do
Speaker 1: not trust the government, we do not want to see
Speaker 1: a president that has spent a lot of her life
Speaker 1: in that scene. I know I was ready for a
Speaker 1: fresh face and a new attitude. I was especially thirsty
Speaker 1: for a leader who is against political correctness, and I
Speaker 1: know you two have probably read and heard uh the
Speaker 1: articles and interviews about how Trump supporters banded together because
Speaker 1: we were so sick of politicians like Hillary Clinton. Again,
Speaker 1: I am completely for a woman in the White House,
Speaker 1: but I do not believe Hillary Clinton is the right one,
Speaker 1: and it made me feel uneasy when Karen reader statements
Speaker 1: about how women should have all banded together to elector.
Speaker 1: And I also think you two may have hopped on
Speaker 1: the woman president train a little too early. Not to
Speaker 1: say that your feminism is wrong, but I do not
Speaker 1: believe that Hillary was the right the right woman for
Speaker 1: the job, and I know we will have to agree
Speaker 1: to disagree on this topic. I just want people with
Speaker 1: the positions such as YouTube uh such as you two
Speaker 1: have to not influence your young listeners with statements that
Speaker 1: make them think they have to be on board with
Speaker 1: everything a woman does. If Hillary Clinton was a man,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure to sure you guys would have voted
Speaker 1: for him, unless you are Democratic. If you had read
Speaker 1: about a male Democratic nominee with the track record of
Speaker 1: such as Hillary's, I think we would share the same
Speaker 1: opinions about political influence and an over populated government of
Speaker 1: power hungry politicians, and closing, I just want to reaffirm them.
Speaker 1: I am in support of your movement and empowering women
Speaker 1: who have seen oppression and harassment and mistreatment for many years.
Speaker 1: I do think it is wrong, and I am ashamed
Speaker 1: of and who do this to women. They give us
Speaker 1: a bad reputation. However, I think it's important to choose
Speaker 1: the words and phrases you use carefully because you have
Speaker 1: a lot of listeners, not to mention young listeners, and
Speaker 1: these listeners are very privy to adopting the views of
Speaker 1: people they look up to. I understand how important a
Speaker 1: woman figure in the highest position of authority can empower women. However,
Speaker 1: I have to say that I disagree that she would
Speaker 1: have been the correct candidate to fill the position. Sincerely,
Speaker 1: this person's name, oh man, I didn't know how to
Speaker 1: download a fart sound effect for this episode. Now you
Speaker 1: know what. I actually appreciate this email because I'm glad
Speaker 1: that cool. I'm glad that people can at least write
Speaker 1: us with uh not anger. I have a couple of
Speaker 1: problems with some of the things that this person said
Speaker 1: but I I I am trying to figure out where
Speaker 1: the people are coming from who are voting for Trump,
Speaker 1: and I know people are voting for Trump, and hearing
Speaker 1: from people who I don't agree with is very helpful,
Speaker 1: and this email I thought was very helpful. Um. One
Speaker 1: of the things though, I just I wanted to point
Speaker 1: out with this email is you say you're ashamed of
Speaker 1: the men who do this to women, who oppressed women,
Speaker 1: harass women, mistreat them for years. That's Trump to me,
Speaker 1: I don't. I think Hillary Clinton was an amazing person
Speaker 1: for the job, not to let alone a woman when
Speaker 1: we weren't voting for her just because she's a woman.
Speaker 1: If Sarah Palin was running for president, I would not
Speaker 1: encourage people to vote for her, and I wouldn't vote
Speaker 1: for certainly, And her gender has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1: I think Hillary Clinton's gender for us was just the
Speaker 1: sweet cherry on top of a body of work that
Speaker 1: I believe is very uh well regarded and and should
Speaker 1: and deserves deserves this position. Obviously she was also that's
Speaker 1: not going to change anything, but I just wanted to
Speaker 1: point that out because that's one of the things that
Speaker 1: really frustrates me. It's like, Okay, Hillary Clinton did a
Speaker 1: few things that you think are the worst things that
Speaker 1: a presidential nominee could have done, but like a lot
Speaker 1: of other politicians have done those same things times a
Speaker 1: thou is in right, And I get that you want
Speaker 1: somebody who's left field, who's gonna take everybody by surprise,
Speaker 1: who does no idea what the fun politics are and
Speaker 1: has never been a part of the game. But he's
Speaker 1: now appointing people who have been a part of the
Speaker 1: game for their whole entire lives, some longer than Hillary Clinton,
Speaker 1: and for example, Mike Pence her his vice president. He
Speaker 1: has fought so regular rigorously to shut down planned parenthood clinics,
Speaker 1: and that he has he it's almost like he doesn't
Speaker 1: want women to have reproductive rights or access to reproductive healthcare,
Speaker 1: is how hard he has fought to shut down planned
Speaker 1: parenthood clinics in the state that he governs. So it's
Speaker 1: not that the whole I want somebody who's left field.
Speaker 1: To me, I don't fucking buy it, because he's putting
Speaker 1: people in his cabinet, and he's appointing Supreme Court justices
Speaker 1: who know what the funk they're doing because they've been
Speaker 1: in politics for a very long time. But their agenda
Speaker 1: is it's almost like some of their agenda is focused
Speaker 1: on repressing women's access to reproductive healthcare. LGBT at that
Speaker 1: to marry who you want to fucking marry, and I
Speaker 1: get that, you know, I've read up Reagan. When Ronald
Speaker 1: Reagan was appointed president, he he appointed three Supreme Court
Speaker 1: justices that were more conservative during his presidency, and they
Speaker 1: fought really hard to take down Roe v. Wade, and
Speaker 1: they didn't do it. So I really do think I've
Speaker 1: been I don't think that we're going to lose our
Speaker 1: right two services, like, for example, the right to choose
Speaker 1: what we want to do with our body. And in
Speaker 1: terms of getting an abortion, I don't think that that's
Speaker 1: going to be made illegal nationwide because it's there have
Speaker 1: been so many attempts to make it illegal that have
Speaker 1: just failed, and I don't think that that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: I just really worry with so many voices in the
Speaker 1: White House that are so anti a woman's right to choose,
Speaker 1: for example, to have people in the fucking the people
Speaker 1: who voted for him, and he's just going to influence
Speaker 1: more people to think that that's okay, and it's not okay,
Speaker 1: and I'm never going to shut the funk up about that,
Speaker 1: and I really I just want to to put that
Speaker 1: out there because I think last week's int're always a
Speaker 1: little too angry to talk um to talk soundly, and
Speaker 1: now I am. So that's just what I wanted to
Speaker 1: say about that. That being said, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: it's important to also remember that Donald Trump is our
Speaker 1: president elect, and in December nine, we might have the opportunity,
Speaker 1: I mean, if the faith the line for Hillary Clinton
Speaker 1: to become president because she did win the popular vote.
Speaker 1: That's a whole lot of stuff that you need to
Speaker 1: read up on the electoral college and kind of maybe
Speaker 1: why that's not a great idea. Um. However, I think
Speaker 1: the reasons why a lot but why Donald Trump got
Speaker 1: elected was because people were piste at a lot of
Speaker 1: millennials and and really liberals who don't want to hear
Speaker 1: the opinion of anybody else, um acting the way we
Speaker 1: have and we kind of talk about stuff like this
Speaker 1: as far as like being too PC as comedians. It
Speaker 1: certainly affected us. But you know, just keep an eye
Speaker 1: on what Donald Trump is doing. Maybe he'll surprise us. Hopefully,
Speaker 1: he'll surprised us. He's already walked back at a few
Speaker 1: fucking gross things, he said. Yeah, I mean promises he's made,
Speaker 1: So that's excited. Pretty sure. He doesn't want to be president,
Speaker 1: so I think he's just kind of taking the lead
Speaker 1: of other people. But you know, we'll keep keep an
Speaker 1: eye and if we see things that aren't going well,
Speaker 1: we'll speak up. And now hopefully we've learned our lesson
Speaker 1: fort for next time. Yeah. I hope he's the best
Speaker 1: president ever. Yeah. I don't want to see him fail,
Speaker 1: just because it's like ha ha, Hillary should have one.
Speaker 1: Yeah that stub. Yeah, and Hillary has been in politics
Speaker 1: a long time because this was her fucking life goal
Speaker 1: and that's why she was busy doing it. So if
Speaker 1: there's a woman who voted for Trump, really would love
Speaker 1: to hear from you. Yeah, you know, just you know,
Speaker 1: just in a in a nice way. But I feelt
Speaker 1: the other email was demeaning and thanks so much for
Speaker 1: all the men who wrote us emails. Um, this next
Speaker 1: email says is not about politics, so it's about women though.
Speaker 1: X shit with some good news about domestay violence. Haldy
Speaker 1: is I've been wanting to email you after listening to
Speaker 1: your podcast, specifically the one with the attorney who now
Speaker 1: works with victims of domestic violence d V. As he
Speaker 1: calls it, um a little bit about myself. I was
Speaker 1: a police officer for two and a half years, Army veteran,
Speaker 1: and I am black and Latino. Also, I am a guy.
Speaker 1: By the way, I quit being a cop because I
Speaker 1: got another position at a higher level in a different agency.
Speaker 1: Domestic violence laws have undergone a very drastic and mostly
Speaker 1: positive change in most states. I'll give you some examples
Speaker 1: to contrast with how your guest was treated. Victims uh,
Speaker 1: some states will actually assume the role of the victim.
Speaker 1: What this means is that it's no longer up to
Speaker 1: the victim to quote drop or quote pursue. Once probable
Speaker 1: cause is established, the ball gets rolling and the only
Speaker 1: way to stop it is by going to court. Harassment, some,
Speaker 1: if not most states now will classify DV not as
Speaker 1: a single crime, but more like an enhancement or special designation.
Speaker 1: What this means is that harassment, even digital assault, battery,
Speaker 1: et cetera, get the domestic classification depending on the relationship
Speaker 1: between victim and suspect, which means crimes that do not
Speaker 1: seem as important like harassment get taken a lot more seriously. Allegations.
Speaker 1: Some states are quote shall arrest states, which means once
Speaker 1: probable cause PC is determined, someone will go to jail,
Speaker 1: no ifs ands or butts. In fact, the state where
Speaker 1: I was an officer, all you needed is an allegation.
Speaker 1: A warrant normally gets taken out within the hour if
Speaker 1: the suspect is not there. The victim also gets taken
Speaker 1: to a safe house if desired, and a temporary Order
Speaker 1: of protection UH gets automatically tacked on the release conditions
Speaker 1: if the suspect makes bond, which is called the conditional
Speaker 1: order of release. These are only a few of the
Speaker 1: changes made. However, some states are not as progressive as others.
Speaker 1: For example, a family member of mine had to deal
Speaker 1: with some domestic violence in New York City, and I
Speaker 1: was shocked at how relax the quote all Mighty and
Speaker 1: my PG handle things. I mean, it's also in places
Speaker 1: where you have a lot of crime going on, sometimes
Speaker 1: everything is not treated seriously. Also, things are really bad
Speaker 1: with immigrants being beaten and raped. The federal government actually
Speaker 1: made some real good strides and programs because things were
Speaker 1: so bad. Uh, that will probably go away now because
Speaker 1: America will be great again. I'm extending a lifeline here
Speaker 1: if you have any questions that deal with law enforcement,
Speaker 1: use of forced domestic violence, et cetera, and like answers
Speaker 1: from an X cop or vet's perspective, I'm an email away. Well,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for writing. And that was really that
Speaker 1: was more just an a formative email because I know
Speaker 1: Christina and I don't really have a ton of info
Speaker 1: about domestic violence, thank god, because we have not yet
Speaker 1: been involved with that. But you never know, you know,
Speaker 1: there's always tomorrow. Um, Hey, tomorrow is another day, another
Speaker 1: possibility to get budge. You never know, You just never know,
Speaker 1: you really don't, you know, always keep that in a
Speaker 1: picture catcher s of I don't know baseball whatever. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta go to but we have to fucking leave
Speaker 1: for Indianapolis in like three hours. Uh, so we're excited
Speaker 1: for you to listen to today's episode. The woman on
Speaker 1: today is a wonderful comic, a wonderful person, a fucking
Speaker 1: fierce feminist. You can catch her with her comedy partner, Um.
Speaker 1: She's part of a comedy duo called Austin Martinez comedy
Speaker 1: and they have a show on True TV called Late
Speaker 1: Night Snack. Please give a warm welcome to our guest,
Speaker 1: Molly Austin. Future You'll go back to back, you tell
Speaker 1: us so oh you you you my god, my god,
Speaker 1: give me Molly Augustin. It's me wherever you go. There
Speaker 1: you are? You even look stylish? Wow, Molly, I'm want
Speaker 1: to take a photo of you right now. Is my
Speaker 1: hair Okay, get your hair screen. It's obviously awesome. It's
Speaker 1: thank you so much for recording. By the way, do
Speaker 1: I look like Elvis? I meet like Molly Austin on
Speaker 1: a fabulous chair. Oh, we are recording. Yeah, when you're
Speaker 1: with Molly Austin, are you guys? So you The last
Speaker 1: sentence you said before I pressed record was I've been
Speaker 1: getting really into sex human sex trafficking lately. Here like
Speaker 1: a year human traffickingraf human trafficking, and you know all
Speaker 1: these facts. Yeah, so you've just been like you went
Speaker 1: on an internet black hole. No I did. Uh. Six
Speaker 1: years ago, I did a tour with Alice and Olivia
Speaker 1: the clothing company. Oh I love them. We toured through
Speaker 1: the Southeast and we gave makeovers two women in every town.
Speaker 1: We landed in and we would raise money for various charities.
Speaker 1: And when we were in um Atlanta, we met women
Speaker 1: who had been sex trafficked and we raised money for
Speaker 1: an umbrella company that helps these women kind of start over.
Speaker 1: And then we were given a book called Half the
Speaker 1: Sky by Nicholas Kristof. Oh my god, someone told me
Speaker 1: to read that. It's incredible. Okay, yes, it's about I'm
Speaker 1: assuming human trafficking. I mean, it's about women's various roles
Speaker 1: in the world and how um it's it's from an
Speaker 1: ancient Chinese proverb that women make up half the sky.
Speaker 1: But basically how we aren't treated as entire humans globally. Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 1: And a lot of it is reflected in how successfully
Speaker 1: people are trafficked. Not to say that men aren't trafficked.
Speaker 1: Men are traffic to, Yeah, men are traffic to uh,
Speaker 1: mostly boys more than men. Um. And then uh yeah.
Speaker 1: And then Tim Dillon just got into human trafficking. Uh no,
Speaker 1: on his own. There's a documentary on Netflix called who
Speaker 1: Like Who Took Johnny or something like that. I saw
Speaker 1: it and then I read the description and I was like,
Speaker 1: not today, Well, the thing that's what happens with human
Speaker 1: trafficking is that it's so huge that it happens something
Speaker 1: like every three minutes, and it's that makes it no
Speaker 1: longer news because it's so common, so common, And Atlanta
Speaker 1: International Airport is the largest sex trafficking hub in the world.
Speaker 1: What note to self, Yeah, the current Garreed shaking person
Speaker 1: odds are odds are when you talk to these women
Speaker 1: who have been trafficked, what did did you did you
Speaker 1: talk about it? Did you kind of steer clear of
Speaker 1: that and just focus on like, hey, let's put this
Speaker 1: rat these rat outfits on you. And no, we we
Speaker 1: did all that, but we also um like we were
Speaker 1: very lucky in the way that all these women kind
Speaker 1: of wanted to talk to us and we got to
Speaker 1: spend some real time and we really did get to
Speaker 1: like get the back story from not only them, but
Speaker 1: from like counselors um who work with the company. So
Speaker 1: a lot of it is like, uh, a lot of
Speaker 1: it's heroin, so they'll get them hooked on heroin, so
Speaker 1: they can't even if they get out, they can't get
Speaker 1: very far. And these are American women. What so what
Speaker 1: happens in other countries is they're taken out of out
Speaker 1: of places where women are are treated very poorly up top.
Speaker 1: They know the police are in on it because the
Speaker 1: police are the ones that are showing up to fuck them. Uh.
Speaker 1: And other countries or is this America as well? I
Speaker 1: mean it's America as well. But when they come here,
Speaker 1: they don't even attempt to run because there's no one
Speaker 1: to run to. Um. So it's this is not their
Speaker 1: home country. They don't know no one well, I mean
Speaker 1: even in this country, like a lot of the times,
Speaker 1: police and the FBI are in on it. Like I
Speaker 1: was saying before, like this story with Johnny Gosh. The
Speaker 1: mother went to the police and the police said he
Speaker 1: was a runaway. They wouldn't help her. Neighboring police forces
Speaker 1: came in and the police told her told them to
Speaker 1: go home. They called off search parties. Uh. The FBI
Speaker 1: wouldn't help her, and she she had an ironclad case,
Speaker 1: like she could have found him, and they like dismissed witnesses.
Speaker 1: The FBI said that the witnesses weren't credible and it
Speaker 1: was so whoever was sexually abusing this little boy was
Speaker 1: probably close or a member of the police or the FBI. Yeah, Um, probably,
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of people in our government
Speaker 1: who are I mean, it's it's I think it's Historically,
Speaker 1: people in powerful positions, there will always be a percentage
Speaker 1: of those people to take who take advantage of that power. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and I think that, like I said this before,
Speaker 1: but when you're at the top of the food chain,
Speaker 1: like you don't hunt for your food, you pay someone
Speaker 1: else to hunt for it. So it's like this is
Speaker 1: a delivery service that's going on. Well, it's because just
Speaker 1: because you're rich doesn't mean you're not a pedophile or
Speaker 1: you know, or someone who wants to pay for sex
Speaker 1: with anybody. Right, you're gonna get it done for you.
Speaker 1: I mean. And the thing is, it's like at a
Speaker 1: certain point you just stopped. I mean, there are people
Speaker 1: who just stopped caring about emotions. And if if there's
Speaker 1: money in trafficking people, it's what what how is it
Speaker 1: different than goods? You know? Yeah, I mean I think
Speaker 1: that's how a lot of people say and lying and
Speaker 1: selling these other people have no souls or they've really
Speaker 1: gotten to a place where they can convince themselves that
Speaker 1: what they're doing is not bad enough to actually do it.
Speaker 1: That blows my mind. I mean it's it's I don't
Speaker 1: know what the piece Uh, I don't know there's a
Speaker 1: piece of a person who can do that that's missing
Speaker 1: that I don't understand because I can't. I can't look
Speaker 1: at someone and not like see myself. Do you know?
Speaker 1: Does that make sense? And I think that that probably
Speaker 1: has a lot to do with like how I was
Speaker 1: raised where I was raised? Um, just in like uh
Speaker 1: like how yeah, like what what how has that affected you?
Speaker 1: Like what was wing from what you're like a familial
Speaker 1: set up? Like growing up? Sure, I have a younger
Speaker 1: sister and two parents who are still married. Um, I
Speaker 1: guess everybody technically has two parents. Uh. And I grew
Speaker 1: up in New Jersey and I just grew up in
Speaker 1: a house where uh like we weren't allowed to walk
Speaker 1: past litter? Does that make sense? Pick it up? You
Speaker 1: pick it up? Because are you to do your part?
Speaker 1: Are you too good to pick it up? Like? Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's uh too good to pick up sucking little Molly? No, no,
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, you pick that up? Yea. It's like okay, okay, alright, okay,
Speaker 1: cool dad? Um, and I just grew up. It's like
Speaker 1: uh interesting with like h my father's a Republican, but
Speaker 1: he's very uh, he's just very pro choice, um and
Speaker 1: uh pro gay. Most of my family's gay. Um, it
Speaker 1: was really most of your family's gay. Well, like a
Speaker 1: lot of cousins come out gay and I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: pretty sure I got some uncle's announced and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're gay. Have a big family. It sounds like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's just like, uh, it's just the members that are
Speaker 1: around or gay, which is pretty good. Awesome. That sounds
Speaker 1: like a great family. So, I mean, it was like
Speaker 1: an environment where you were just made comfortable to be yourself.
Speaker 1: And I think, uh, in I mean even in you know,
Speaker 1: a modern for all intents of purposes in modern society,
Speaker 1: like being not being homophobic in the nineties was not
Speaker 1: easy when you I grew up in the church, and
Speaker 1: the church is always saying gay people go to Hell,
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, you go to hell. And
Speaker 1: that's how I ended up in the corner a lot.
Speaker 1: But I also got bloody noses, so I just picked
Speaker 1: my nose and my nose blood and then I'd be like,
Speaker 1: guess who's going huh good tactic, yeah, and like the
Speaker 1: so so I think that like I think that for
Speaker 1: as as small as it probably seems to like young
Speaker 1: people today, I think seeing like what the world says
Speaker 1: about gay people and what my family said about gay
Speaker 1: people conflicting has a lot to do with how um
Speaker 1: I feel about other people. Because it wasn't cool to
Speaker 1: like be be okay with that stuff, right, and your
Speaker 1: family was kind of like didn't give a fuck. No,
Speaker 1: dude doesn't give a ship. Yeah that's great. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: saw him punch of dog once, like this man dog
Speaker 1: biting the dog was there were four dogs attacking my
Speaker 1: dog punched my father punched one of them dog. He
Speaker 1: like fought off four dogs, And I was like, whoa, well,
Speaker 1: I mean you have to yeah, you have he had.
Speaker 1: He wasn't just like punching dogs back. I know. I
Speaker 1: was like, we need we need a frame of reference
Speaker 1: for that before. But like that's the kind of like, uh,
Speaker 1: it was just it was like you know what it
Speaker 1: was right, was clear to me, um, And it was
Speaker 1: like the only sex talk I ever got was from
Speaker 1: my father, and it was your dad gave you a
Speaker 1: sex talk. Yeah, that's interesting. If you ever get pregnant,
Speaker 1: I'll have you in the clinic so fast. You won't
Speaker 1: know you were pregnant to begin with. Oh, that was
Speaker 1: the whole thing. And I was like, is he pro choice?
Speaker 1: He's pro abortion? It seems I think like a girl
Speaker 1: in my school or somewhere I had gotten pregnant and
Speaker 1: he like and she was keeping it and he was
Speaker 1: furious because she was like she was like a girl,
Speaker 1: and it like upset him. Oh he was in an
Speaker 1: early teen and it like sparked something in him. And
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, dad, in that he felt like
Speaker 1: she wasn't going to have all the opportunities or or
Speaker 1: go as far as she could because of the kid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think that, Uh, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: there are people who uh probably have kids as teens
Speaker 1: and come out the other side like okay, but I
Speaker 1: think that uh school, A lot of schools don't facilitate.
Speaker 1: They make you go home. Yeah, well, because they want
Speaker 1: to hide you so many instances. It's like if you
Speaker 1: were praying, you are sent to some other classroom, you're
Speaker 1: not you're not going through the hallways during a period change,
Speaker 1: like you're just hidden from the world instead of just
Speaker 1: being like, all right, we have a student, she's pregnant,
Speaker 1: and we're just deal with it. Yeah, but if you're
Speaker 1: adult enough to get pregnant, you should be adult enough
Speaker 1: to deal with it and let other adults know about it.
Speaker 1: Did he tell you about condoms? No? I think that
Speaker 1: was the whole thing. So you didn't. You didn't tell
Speaker 1: you to avoid pregnancy. No, you just told me what
Speaker 1: would happen. And I was like, I'm twelve, I just
Speaker 1: got my period. Give me a second. Even get my
Speaker 1: period til I was like seventeen. What Yeah, Like I didn't.
Speaker 1: I was like a super late bloomer and like, were
Speaker 1: you whoa, that's the latest I've ever heard. I've heard
Speaker 1: like nineteen. Yeah, really, that's not that bad. I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I got only the level. Yeah, I was like twelve
Speaker 1: and it was a nightmare. But that's bad. But you
Speaker 1: guys got tits out of it. So good for you.
Speaker 1: We got and I still don't have them. I'm still waiting. Well,
Speaker 1: you look like you got them. No, I mean that's
Speaker 1: I wish I got my period when I was seventeen. Honestly,
Speaker 1: be great. I would have not. I would not have
Speaker 1: been like, oh man, where's my period. When you still
Speaker 1: play with barbies and you get your period, you're like,
Speaker 1: this is not right. Yeah, I don't. I shouldn't. I
Speaker 1: don't deserve this. I don't deserve this. Yeah, this primal punishment.
Speaker 1: Its horrible with cramps when you're so young, it's so bad. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I lied about my period when I was like six.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, no, I got it, and they
Speaker 1: were like, why didn't you tell? I was like, I
Speaker 1: got pads in my bag. Maybody needs a pad? Such
Speaker 1: a fucking tool. You know you girls got pa anybody
Speaker 1: need a pad? I got a bunch? Uh, I was
Speaker 1: did you use? I was so hard fun to use
Speaker 1: tampons until I was maybe like eighteen. No, dude. By
Speaker 1: the time I got my period, I was like tampon.
Speaker 1: I was like ready. I was like I'm ready to
Speaker 1: have this. Yeah. You had so many expired like feminine
Speaker 1: hygiene products in your room just like yeah, yeah I did.
Speaker 1: Because they start teaching you about in fifth grade. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's how old are you in the grade? You're
Speaker 1: like ten? Yeah. So it was just like waiting for
Speaker 1: this thing, like the horror of the weight. It was
Speaker 1: really what got to me. Yeah, but it's like a
Speaker 1: shitty thing, like you're it's it's something that people are
Speaker 1: waiting for and then when you get it, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is terrible, this sucks. No. I was ready to
Speaker 1: be the cradle of life. Man. I was like, I'm ready.
Speaker 1: Oh you liked it? Well, I mean were you? Are
Speaker 1: you like amped to have kids? No? I don't think
Speaker 1: I will have children. I've never felt like a way,
Speaker 1: it's a whole. That's my feeling, Like I'm like, why
Speaker 1: am I going through this for all this time? I
Speaker 1: asked my mom if I could get my tube tied
Speaker 1: tubes tied when I was sixteen, and she said, no,
Speaker 1: reputable doctor will do that. I did ask my kind
Speaker 1: of collegist about that when I was when I was
Speaker 1: like twenty, I was like, can we just take it
Speaker 1: out if I don't need it? And he was like, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a hysterectomy and that changes thing, that
Speaker 1: changes a lot. And I was like, okay, good to know.
Speaker 1: But I did. But I did. I was excited. I like,
Speaker 1: I thought it made me like a woman and I
Speaker 1: and I especially like when you're seventeen, you're like, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of an adult, Like what's going on? Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why I dreaded it at eleven because I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a woman yet, I want
Speaker 1: to play still. I was ready. Yeah, I was ready
Speaker 1: to get my own place and have my period. Malibu mansion,
Speaker 1: my own Malibu mansion. Did you have sex before you
Speaker 1: had your period? No? I didn't have sex until I
Speaker 1: was almost nineteen, with a boyfriend or a handsome man
Speaker 1: at a ball or buying cars, like a house party.
Speaker 1: I got too drunk. I don't even really remember it.
Speaker 1: I remember like I didn't like it, but I don't
Speaker 1: really remember it. Yeah, was it like you wanted to
Speaker 1: rip the band aid off kind of? Um? Yeah? I
Speaker 1: think I just felt like a big virgin, which I was.
Speaker 1: I was, But you feel like everyone knew? What do
Speaker 1: you mean like something like that was the like everyone knows,
Speaker 1: like Molly's a virgin? Do you feel? Where was it
Speaker 1: the sense? That? Was it you coming down on yourself?
Speaker 1: It was me coming down myself. Um? And like I also,
Speaker 1: I I've never had like an issue like buying condoms
Speaker 1: or because my parents were very comfortable in that way. Um,
Speaker 1: so I was like always the one going to get
Speaker 1: birth control from my friends really because I don't give
Speaker 1: a ship, Like yeah, tell my mom okay, like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, we're being proactive about your sexual health. Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: never gonna get mad at me for getting condoms, and
Speaker 1: like I knew that, um, but so I would like
Speaker 1: always be getting condoms for other people because if someone
Speaker 1: sees me at the store, like I don't care. Um,
Speaker 1: everyone CBS is like, mom condoms every day, dick on
Speaker 1: the red uh, just like in a tunnel, just like
Speaker 1: a tunnel of dicks. But it was no, it was
Speaker 1: no dicks. Um. And I had like I had like
Speaker 1: a like a boyfriend in high school, and like we
Speaker 1: like we're very precious about the whole thing. And then
Speaker 1: I was just like, this is fucking stupid. How far
Speaker 1: did you and that high school boyfriend go sexually? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? Pretty much the whole thing. So like it
Speaker 1: was just like oral all the time, oral, which is
Speaker 1: like not bad. Yeah it was fun, but then like
Speaker 1: it just got to be like to uh, you know
Speaker 1: when you're too precious about something, how it kind of
Speaker 1: ruins it a little? Yeah it does. And I just
Speaker 1: like wasn't I was like, I don't actually really care
Speaker 1: about this. It's never gonna live up to your expectations anyway,
Speaker 1: especially not the first time you ever do it. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, the first time is a nightmare. If there's
Speaker 1: a virgin listening to it, which I doubt you have
Speaker 1: virgin people virgin there's like eleven and twelve year olds listening,
Speaker 1: and just like nineteen year olds who have not had
Speaker 1: sex yet, like there's there's there's ray goots. So oh yeah,
Speaker 1: very goot. I don't think so ay righty right, it
Speaker 1: doesn't get good for like years too. Oh with the
Speaker 1: sex I had when I was in high school was
Speaker 1: so bad. Yeah, And the first time I had sex
Speaker 1: hurt so bad, so bad, Oh my god. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like, this is the worst. Why do I want
Speaker 1: to do it? Feels like someone shoved a hermit crab
Speaker 1: up your vagina and the hermit crabs trying to make
Speaker 1: it out of the vagina. That's what losing your virginity
Speaker 1: felt like. I mean, wow, mine like tink with this
Speaker 1: little clause. I hated it. Did the guy's dick have
Speaker 1: no sikes? No, but it felt like it felt like
Speaker 1: a cactus. Hated it gross? Oh no, I think I
Speaker 1: didn't have sex like a year again. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: that was me like after the first time I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I did it, alright, Cool, nothing changed, I'm
Speaker 1: only low for a little bit. Yeah, I'm like I'm
Speaker 1: good with this. Yeah, I mean it's just gonna stick
Speaker 1: to blow job. Yeah. It's like when I first tried coffee,
Speaker 1: I was like, what the fund is the big deal?
Speaker 1: Why is everybody so fucking amped on coffee? It's horrible? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you learned to love it, that's true. Yeah. I mean
Speaker 1: I think it also comes with like, uh, finding someone
Speaker 1: to do it a lot with, because that's what it
Speaker 1: really took for me. I don't think I really enjoyed
Speaker 1: it until like my first real boyfriend. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: it was kind of like a thing that you did
Speaker 1: that I never really cared about, because you need someone
Speaker 1: who you're comfortable kind of like experiment with and try
Speaker 1: new positions and be like put your finger here without
Speaker 1: feeling like embarrassed. Yeah. I I needed like I mean,
Speaker 1: some women don't, some people don't need that level of comfort,
Speaker 1: but I felt I I didn't find that in myself
Speaker 1: until I met someone that I was comfortable. Yeah. I've
Speaker 1: never really helped. Yeah, I mean I had. I was
Speaker 1: with my first boyfriend for five years. He was like
Speaker 1: significantly older than me, and that really spoiled me sexually.
Speaker 1: He took his I really like I owe him so much,
Speaker 1: Like I could not have asked for a better first
Speaker 1: sexual partner, like yeah, yeah it's hot. Yeah, that's You're
Speaker 1: so lucky. I know, I think it's so happy. My
Speaker 1: boyfriend has a good first girlfriend's story too. I'm like, god,
Speaker 1: damn that that really shapes who you are, how you act.
Speaker 1: And I credited you know, that's in your coverason why
Speaker 1: I'm here today. I really think that, like it's helped
Speaker 1: me be so open sexually and so ready to explore
Speaker 1: things like I yeah, yeah, so kids, if you're listening,
Speaker 1: you haven't a sex yet, find someone you really like
Speaker 1: in respect and is gonna make it way better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're trusting me. I felt comfortably. I never felt
Speaker 1: stupid to you know, put on a costume or or
Speaker 1: do this, and like you know, he like you know,
Speaker 1: I was like eighteen and he was like twenty six,
Speaker 1: and he like taught me like how to have an
Speaker 1: orgasm because I was like, I don't know, you can
Speaker 1: we come we have these bondies, I mean, come uh
Speaker 1: into our sexual selves so uninformed. I'm so annoying. It's
Speaker 1: the blind leading the blind. You're just like walking around
Speaker 1: in a room with all these trinkets but there's no lights.
Speaker 1: So you're like, fuck, am I going to get through this?
Speaker 1: What sex? That is? Just like just like here's a
Speaker 1: picture of your uterus. Uh, here's some pads and uh,
Speaker 1: here's a video of a baby being born. And you're
Speaker 1: just like, whoa, Okay, none of this sounds appealing. This
Speaker 1: sounds terrible. It's like a word box and they're like, okay,
Speaker 1: so write the name of what part this is over
Speaker 1: the part. But that doesn't tell that doesn't really teach you. Well,
Speaker 1: there's no pleasure being doing. And you never learned about
Speaker 1: a female orgasm. You just learned about the male orgasm
Speaker 1: because that's what makes a baby. And I'm like, fuck this.
Speaker 1: I knew I didn't want to have babies. Yeah, from
Speaker 1: a young age, you knew you didn't want to have
Speaker 1: to kids. We watched the Miracle of Life in my
Speaker 1: health class same and I raised my hand and my
Speaker 1: health teacher at the time was also my field hockey coach,
Speaker 1: So I said, Coachy, this does not apply to me,
Speaker 1: and it's making me feel queasy. Can I go to
Speaker 1: the cafeteria and she was like yeah, and I was like, good,
Speaker 1: thank you. I took my stuff and I left. It
Speaker 1: still is not applied to me. This is not apply
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, why would you have to be forced
Speaker 1: to watch a baby come out of a vagina? It
Speaker 1: was I felt like it was it was rude that
Speaker 1: you had to watch a baby born. Yeah, I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't need this. Were you popular in high school?
Speaker 1: I feel like you were, do you? Yeah? No, I
Speaker 1: was a I know, the really any unfortunately popular? Uh no,
Speaker 1: I had like four friends. Um, it's pretty, that's not bad.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like there was like a It wasn't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say it was like unpopular. But I wasn't
Speaker 1: like there was like a popular group of girls that
Speaker 1: I was just like, they have so many friends, they
Speaker 1: have so many those aren't real friends that they do
Speaker 1: all this stuff. That popular kids in my high school
Speaker 1: were the hottest kids. They were the hot like the
Speaker 1: good looking kids, like the hottest ones always. But then
Speaker 1: when you branch off into something like theater, you are
Speaker 1: automatically disqualified for the popularity pool. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you knew. Not in my head. Everybody knew that. I
Speaker 1: was like, you know, what, fuck it? Taking a plunge
Speaker 1: theater was like dope in my high school. They're dope
Speaker 1: to us, but I feel like the other kids were like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing my high school? So I grat
Speaker 1: my graduating class with eleven hundred kids like in my class.
Speaker 1: So it was so big that you really the popularity thing.
Speaker 1: By the time high school game along wasn't really relevant
Speaker 1: because there was so many groups and no one really
Speaker 1: gave a sh about whatever. Mine was small. It was like,
Speaker 1: that's really small. It's very it's hard to even know.
Speaker 1: I knew everybody, you knew everybody. I didn't really like anybody.
Speaker 1: Um well, it was like a very it's a very
Speaker 1: rich town that I went to high school, and um
Speaker 1: and it was just like it's just rich kids are
Speaker 1: the worst. They're like the worst spoiled breaths. They're sometimes
Speaker 1: they're so shitty. We did a lot of drug use.
Speaker 1: I feel like in rich towns drug use tons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I did drugs before I got my period, Like I
Speaker 1: did what kinds? I did drugs before I got my period?
Speaker 1: And that's the title of your autobiography. This episode Drugs
Speaker 1: before you got your period. Oh yeah, ecstasy was very popular. Mushrooms.
Speaker 1: I cannot imagine being that young and kids in my
Speaker 1: middle school were doing acid. What what's the don't say heroine, no,
Speaker 1: no heroin? I did uh? I didn't do acid, did mushrooms.
Speaker 1: I did exac like all the time, cocaine. In high school,
Speaker 1: I blew math by mistakes. It was a real oopsy, Daisy,
Speaker 1: How do you accidentally blow math? I thought it was cocaine.
Speaker 1: I accidentally oked opium once to Holy fun because I
Speaker 1: thought it was weed. That there was just meth man
Speaker 1: rich kids get every drup Vegas. I was in Vegas,
Speaker 1: good answer, I was. I was fifteen and I was
Speaker 1: in Vegas for real. Yeah, and what the fuck? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I was at my cousin's wedding and another
Speaker 1: cousin like put out a line and I thought I
Speaker 1: thought it was coke, and I'm like, I've done coke once,
Speaker 1: and I was like zoop and I took the whole
Speaker 1: thing and my face was like on fire, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh shit, Like I knew right away somebody
Speaker 1: at that hotel room wherever you were, go, Molly, that
Speaker 1: was I knew you knew right away that it was away.
Speaker 1: It was not cocaine. Um, it's like a may And
Speaker 1: also what cousin is letting their fifteen year old cocaine
Speaker 1: even if they said they've done before. She was not
Speaker 1: much older than me. She was like two years old.
Speaker 1: Of they get fucking meth. Um, I guess actually she
Speaker 1: was older the ma. She was like nineteen. Yeah, she
Speaker 1: was like nineteen, and she was working in Vegas. She
Speaker 1: was she was working on a show. I come from,
Speaker 1: like theater people, so she was working on a show there. Um,
Speaker 1: because that's when you start working. Line of meth last
Speaker 1: you three days, no what? And I was sharing was
Speaker 1: one of those days the wedding a hotel room. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was sharing a hotel room with my mother and
Speaker 1: my sister, and I wasn't sleeping because I was on meth.
Speaker 1: And I would like close the eye that was like
Speaker 1: closest to her bed, so it looked like I was sleeping,
Speaker 1: and I stayed awake watching the television with the other
Speaker 1: eye open, and I remember being like, this is hell,
Speaker 1: Like this, this is what hell is. You don't poop
Speaker 1: what you know poop. I don't know what meth is about.
Speaker 1: But I did not poop for three days. I felt terrible.
Speaker 1: I just started eating ice cream to like try to
Speaker 1: make myself poop. I remember that. My god, It's like
Speaker 1: when I take pepto bismo on poop. It's weird, like
Speaker 1: when I take really Yeah, I feel like some meth
Speaker 1: would probably make me ship my brains out, unlike the opposite.
Speaker 1: You shipped right away and then there's no shipping. There's
Speaker 1: no shipping or really eating. There was a lot. There's
Speaker 1: a lot to it. Uh, you're really selling meth here.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do it so you didn't get addicted. That's good. Well,
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a very addictive. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it's the best high I've ever had. Really, it was amazing. Um,
Speaker 1: But I understood what it was in the dangers of it,
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean, Like you're a logical
Speaker 1: drug user. I was. I was very yeah, strategic in
Speaker 1: my drug use, and I just I knew I was
Speaker 1: never going to do it again. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's more that at the time that was more
Speaker 1: of like I wouldn't have even known where to get math,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? In the right place,
Speaker 1: right time, you know, I was just just in the right
Speaker 1: place at the right time. Math is hout in Vegas.
Speaker 1: It's like a an easy to get drug. It's really
Speaker 1: easy to get, Isn't it like cheap too. It's cheap
Speaker 1: and it keeps you thin and that's what matters there.
Speaker 1: So it's just like it's it's a nightmare of a place.
Speaker 1: I know. I was like I hate Vegas. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: now I actually really like Vegas is an adult m
Speaker 1: because I've been going for so long that I found
Speaker 1: like a way to enjoy it. Um. There's a lot
Speaker 1: there as far as nature goes, it's very interesting, like
Speaker 1: like meat. Yeah, I've never heard that either. You're not
Speaker 1: far from the Grand Canyon. You can do uh. There's
Speaker 1: like stuff to do in the desert that is like
Speaker 1: very restorative and like the desert is a beautiful place
Speaker 1: if you let it be. Uh. And that was so
Speaker 1: meta and also just got really dark in this room
Speaker 1: dead that's like God knows, Molly didn't mas, God knows. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been on me for a while about it. I'm
Speaker 1: so sorry. I meant she um, And like there's the
Speaker 1: Wind Hotel and there's these there are these things, are
Speaker 1: these there's a lot of shows there that I really like. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the shows are great. The shows are great. Um, and
Speaker 1: it's I think there's a way to do Vegas in
Speaker 1: a very wonderful way and have a very good experience.
Speaker 1: When we go to Vegas, we'll call you beforehand and
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, got a good yeah. Yeah. So what
Speaker 1: does feminism mean to you? Uh? Good question. I think
Speaker 1: it means, Um, it's very important to me. I think
Speaker 1: it means showing up for uh yourself first and foremost
Speaker 1: as a woman, uh, and then um, showing up for
Speaker 1: other women. That's a good definitely definite learn me some
Speaker 1: tweets about that. I Uh, it's it's always been very
Speaker 1: important to me. Um since I kind of when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, I read a book, um and it
Speaker 1: was about uh, this woman and I don't remember what
Speaker 1: it was called, but I remember it was like the
Speaker 1: first time that I kind of realized that women weren't
Speaker 1: treated the same. Yeah. I feel like every woman has
Speaker 1: a moment in in her life where she's like, oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And I was like in fifth grade and I don't
Speaker 1: know how I got my hands on this book, but
Speaker 1: it was like, uh, it was about this woman in
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia who um like it was kind of like
Speaker 1: not I can't really remember it, but she was like
Speaker 1: she didn't have to live under all these rules and scrutinies,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden she did and she
Speaker 1: was um, she was like mutilated, and she was her
Speaker 1: clitteress was cut off, and it was all of these
Speaker 1: like like nightmare things. I'm like reading this and I'm like,
Speaker 1: why why doesn't she tell anyone? Right? Because when you're
Speaker 1: a kid, you're like, man, if I ever saw someone
Speaker 1: doing drugs, all I'm gonna tell or whatever, Like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be a good Samaritan. I mean, I was never
Speaker 1: snitching on drugs, that's been real. I always said I would,
Speaker 1: And then I was like, yeah, that's lame. No, I
Speaker 1: could smell that as like a scam from a mile away.
Speaker 1: I was like this, they really got to me. Dare
Speaker 1: worked my last nerve. I remember being like, these people
Speaker 1: are fucking annoying. Yeah. Uh so that's I kind of
Speaker 1: realized that at a at a young age. And then
Speaker 1: I just had a lot of I have a lot
Speaker 1: of very strong independent women in my life. Um, and
Speaker 1: it just didn't even dawn on me that it that
Speaker 1: we were treated differently because I wasn't treated differently like
Speaker 1: my father treated me. Uh, he never treated me like
Speaker 1: less because I was a woman. Like we would box
Speaker 1: together and would you know, ski together, and we would
Speaker 1: do all of we would do things together, I guess
Speaker 1: like he would do with this son or we we
Speaker 1: just it didn't even feel like he was Yeah I didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't hold you back or anything or so you
Speaker 1: couldn't do this like handling you with kid gloves. I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of dads handled their daughters with
Speaker 1: kids overprotective and it's very frustrating. Yeah, no, that's great. Um,
Speaker 1: he was like he well he was. He was very helpful.
Speaker 1: It's like my assistant kind of in a lot of ways, Daddy,
Speaker 1: can you help me with us or what? That awesome? Um,
Speaker 1: but I think it didn't even like That's when I
Speaker 1: first realized that things were different. And then I didn't
Speaker 1: understand that things were different for us in this country
Speaker 1: as women until I went out into the world and
Speaker 1: I started seeing that I was treated differently for being
Speaker 1: a woman. So, um, is this a moving to New
Speaker 1: York realization? Moved here because here is weird. It's a
Speaker 1: little odd because people are very respectful and liberal bubble.
Speaker 1: But then you get I've also like had the worst
Speaker 1: experiences with men in the city. Well, I think it.
Speaker 1: I worked in the in the fashion industry. I started
Speaker 1: working UM as a stylist assistant when I was sixteen
Speaker 1: years old. UM and I worked through college as as
Speaker 1: a stylist and as a as a design assistant, and
Speaker 1: I worked in production and I did UM. I started
Speaker 1: just working very young, and Uh, I kind of came
Speaker 1: up against this with Manu clothing manufacturers, especially in New York,
Speaker 1: because I didn't I didn't like I would work with
Speaker 1: some UM companies that were owned by Hasidic men and
Speaker 1: they wouldn't work with me. They wouldn't shake my hand,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't even look me in the eye. And I
Speaker 1: was just like, and that's an every day the week thing.
Speaker 1: That's not just a friend, isn't there some days they're
Speaker 1: always like that with everyone? Yeah about are you talking
Speaker 1: about the as them acidic Jews for a very long time,
Speaker 1: it's all it's corrected by Karna. Know you're thinking about
Speaker 1: things like like having like using electronics. That's like a Friday.
Speaker 1: Corey would go home Fridays earlier, you know, before the
Speaker 1: sun rose or set set. Yeah. Yeah, see, I don't
Speaker 1: know about Jews, but I do know that it seems
Speaker 1: to be oppressive towards women, and there's just like a
Speaker 1: lot of it. I think working very young you and
Speaker 1: it wasn't just like with a cidik men. It was
Speaker 1: just like but that was like the most extreme thing
Speaker 1: that I was met with. That's interesting because how do
Speaker 1: you handle that? Because I respect other people's religious beliefs,
Speaker 1: but the second they discriminate against a group, against homosexuals,
Speaker 1: against women, against any people, call anything, I'm like, fuck you.
Speaker 1: I don't respect that and I don't have to respect
Speaker 1: that part of your religion. Like I would tell them
Speaker 1: that nicely fuck themselves. I wasn't nice. Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: lost my temper a few times. Uh. And then and
Speaker 1: I was like spoken to by the people I work with,
Speaker 1: is like an out of control woman for not wanting
Speaker 1: to accept that. And then you just see like you're
Speaker 1: spoken to in a way as a woman a lot
Speaker 1: of the time that is like very demeaning because we
Speaker 1: can never be angry. It's always crazy. It's crazy or
Speaker 1: like emotional or like your dumb child who can't handle
Speaker 1: things like oh, let a man handle me more angry,
Speaker 1: and that's going to make you say I'm more crazy,
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh man, I mean I even experience
Speaker 1: this now where I'm in comedy um, where like I'm
Speaker 1: I'm working with a with a TV network and I'm
Speaker 1: developing things with them, and like, men who haven't done
Speaker 1: half the ship I have will try to tell me
Speaker 1: who I should work with, how I should work with them,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, why don't you worry about yourself? Like yeah,
Speaker 1: like you you know you should work with And I'm like,
Speaker 1: not you get out of here. I don't need you. Like, man, well,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what man's planing is. It is a thing.
Speaker 1: It's very frustrating. It's just it is stop telling me.
Speaker 1: It's like how to act or what to do or
Speaker 1: go fund yourself. Many I heard Dante Niro say this
Speaker 1: one time, and I will never forget it because I
Speaker 1: say it in my head every time it happens to me.
Speaker 1: He we were like at New York Comedy Club and
Speaker 1: he was he was like kind of like jabbing at
Speaker 1: the younger comics, like making us all feel stupid, and
Speaker 1: I was just like Dante is old and weird. I
Speaker 1: didn't care, and he has a car with his face
Speaker 1: on it. Yeah, like whatever, and like I think it
Speaker 1: was like Ricky Valz like went back at him because
Speaker 1: he did say he doesn't give a fuck, and Dante goes,
Speaker 1: fuck you all. You can't hold my dick on a
Speaker 1: slow Tuesday, And I was like, I have no idea
Speaker 1: what that means, but it means everything, And like every
Speaker 1: time it happens, I'm like, you can't hold my dick
Speaker 1: on a slow toothday and I'm just like, nobody knows.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it, and it's gonna mean whatever
Speaker 1: you want to say. Yeah, And it's just like how
Speaker 1: I feel. And then I think that's about escorts. Well,
Speaker 1: like I think, like you know, because like on the
Speaker 1: weekends they would be busy, but he like, I get it,
Speaker 1: that makes sense. What did you have any specific other
Speaker 1: experiences with sexism in comedy? Because every time Kurt and
Speaker 1: I do an interview, we get asked that most of
Speaker 1: the time of like how is it being a woman
Speaker 1: in comedy? And and truthfully, because I know everyone's experience
Speaker 1: is different, I haven't gotten much. I haven't encountered much sexism.
Speaker 1: But that's my The only time was when I was
Speaker 1: at the comic strip and the fucking owner looked me
Speaker 1: up and down like he wanted to fuck me, and
Speaker 1: then gave me an audition. And I was like four
Speaker 1: months in a comedy. I'm like, I didn't know what
Speaker 1: was happening because I'm a naive fuck. But like, but
Speaker 1: that that was the only thing, and that's not the
Speaker 1: worst thing, you know, But I know women who have
Speaker 1: had really shitty experiences, So I'm curious you've had Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I think, uh yeah, I've experienced it pretty often.
Speaker 1: Uh in my career, I would say I almost quit
Speaker 1: comedy because of it. Wow, I almost quit. I started,
Speaker 1: excuse me, I burped. You can't call my dick on
Speaker 1: a slope too? Was that appropriate there? I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: I just want to keep using it's always appropriate. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's where it's the most appropriate. Jesus cantle my dick
Speaker 1: on a slow toast day. Now that it's about s guards,
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, dook, I think I get it now. Yeah, sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm like that. I was just I really tried to think.
Speaker 1: I like to know like that, you know, no where
Speaker 1: things are driving and I'm going to use it more
Speaker 1: problem Okay, they're prying. Yeah, um yeah. I Mean there
Speaker 1: was a book or at a club who would like
Speaker 1: whisper in my ear that I was hot what every
Speaker 1: time I got up on stage, like right before my performance,
Speaker 1: and I just started eating it on stage. Um, and
Speaker 1: that's horrible kind of corner me and like, uh, just
Speaker 1: like talk to me about the way that I looked
Speaker 1: all the time and uh. And that's actually when I
Speaker 1: met uh Shamika, who I who I work with now,
Speaker 1: who's my comedy partner. UM was at one of these
Speaker 1: shows and she emailed me and she's like, do you
Speaker 1: want to do something with me? And I was like,
Speaker 1: I will do honestly whatever at this point because I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm doing this anymore. Yeah, yeah yeah. And
Speaker 1: there was like it was a night. It was a
Speaker 1: necessary change of scenery for me because I got to
Speaker 1: work with a woman who I admire and I respect.
Speaker 1: I got to create content that was I had like
Speaker 1: a very female positive agenda and it felt like an
Speaker 1: appropriate um swing in another direction that I needed to
Speaker 1: go because we were we were creating a web series
Speaker 1: that was geared towards women that was geared towards anger
Speaker 1: girls that had a lot to do with the steam.
Speaker 1: And I think that, uh, while it was while it
Speaker 1: was disheartening, it was probably a necessary part of my
Speaker 1: growth and discovery. Yeah, because yeah, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: mean yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know that I would have Uh, I would have been
Speaker 1: so hyper focused on creating the kind of content that
Speaker 1: I create if that hadn't been my experience, because it's
Speaker 1: not anti man, but it is pro woman. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think that's the beauty of being able to create
Speaker 1: your own content is that you can say whatever you want,
Speaker 1: Like you guys do that are in control, You curate it,
Speaker 1: you you are in charge of like the direction that's
Speaker 1: going in. But if you think about this, this, this
Speaker 1: doesn't exist if you don't create it, Like you were
Speaker 1: never getting hired by network to create this. No, you
Speaker 1: need to make your own opportunities for yourself. People at
Speaker 1: Attempt didn't even know that this kind of content like
Speaker 1: needed to be created, Like guys, we fucked us very
Speaker 1: much like was created because we saw a need for it.
Speaker 1: Like ultimately it was self helping and then it and
Speaker 1: then it very quickly changed into something that was necessary
Speaker 1: just from the pools of emails that we were getting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's. Uh, that's the exciting
Speaker 1: thing about these platforms is they allow people like like
Speaker 1: us to exist. I mean it's a lot more work,
Speaker 1: it's a lot more poverty probably, but it's uh, it
Speaker 1: feels very earned, which is so exciting because it's so
Speaker 1: And that's the one thing that I'm like, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of realizing, like the world's perspective on women in general,
Speaker 1: and like women in the workforce and stuff, like women
Speaker 1: are very hard workers and I feel like that gets
Speaker 1: overlooked a lot. And I think that to be a
Speaker 1: woman and just make something yourself or with another woman
Speaker 1: and it's I don't know, and to see it grow
Speaker 1: and blossom into something and you're like fuck asked, Like
Speaker 1: it just feels so earned and you're very proud of it.
Speaker 1: Like it's it's a good feeling. It takes a lot
Speaker 1: of blood, sweat and tears, but anything good is worked up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that. And then I also back to the
Speaker 1: feminism thing. I think that it's how you you find
Speaker 1: that in yourself and like I started to search for it.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a book called How to Be a
Speaker 1: Woman by Caitlin Moran, and that was like kind of
Speaker 1: the first real book about feminism I ever read. I
Speaker 1: want to read that. It's it's extraordinary. And then I
Speaker 1: just read um All the Single Ladies by Rebecca trast
Speaker 1: and I come on our cars, But I really I
Speaker 1: think that that even and then that was just the
Speaker 1: summer that I read that. Uh one, it was the
Speaker 1: first book I read since I had a car accident
Speaker 1: and I had a concussion front to back and it
Speaker 1: felt really good to be able to do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which you're going to get into. Yeah, and then too,
Speaker 1: I think it's the probably the most important piece of
Speaker 1: feminist literature that exists, because How to Be a Woman
Speaker 1: or the other book All the Single Agis by Rebecca
Speaker 1: tray stir Um. I can't tell you how many things
Speaker 1: I've read since this like kind of journey into feminism
Speaker 1: that have felt uh too white. They feel a lot
Speaker 1: of feminist stuff feels it doesn't feel inclusive, it doesn't
Speaker 1: feel intersectional. You don't get um like the perspective of
Speaker 1: everyone in it. And I think that this book does
Speaker 1: a really good job. Oh that's great of being h
Speaker 1: inclusive and intersectional and telling the story of women period
Speaker 1: in this country from its birth to where we are,
Speaker 1: and what marriage has meant to us on various levels,
Speaker 1: and what feminism has meant to us as uh, white women,
Speaker 1: but also uh to women of color. Yeah, I actually
Speaker 1: didn't know until embarrassingly enough, like maybe a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, about like the whole white feminism thing and
Speaker 1: how it's it's exclusive, it's it's not inclusive of every woman.
Speaker 1: And I didn't I didn't even know that because that's
Speaker 1: not how I that's not how I think. But but
Speaker 1: then when we have every time we have a woman,
Speaker 1: a non white woman on our show, like I'm always
Speaker 1: curious about asking her what her experiences with white feminism is,
Speaker 1: What does that mean to her? How can white women
Speaker 1: be better? Because that's what I want to know. I
Speaker 1: don't want to be a fucking assholes like that, Like
Speaker 1: that sucks, and so we need other people, other women
Speaker 1: to educate us on it. And that's that book sounds
Speaker 1: like a really great it's really it's Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: it's incredible, But you also have to take into consideration that,
Speaker 1: like you only know your own story so exactly. I
Speaker 1: think it's okay not to know these things, but I
Speaker 1: think it's it's important to let them sink in. And
Speaker 1: just because something is in your own experience doesn't make
Speaker 1: it unimportant. Yeah, I think it's just is important. And
Speaker 1: if you look, I mean it takes searching these things out.
Speaker 1: If you look at women's magazines, it's about everything and
Speaker 1: there is about how you look and everything. Every woman
Speaker 1: on the cover is uh flawless and uh airbrushed, and
Speaker 1: it's I think it's damaging and it makes us we're
Speaker 1: so much more than these They are so beyond women
Speaker 1: are so beyond what what's on their face. I can't
Speaker 1: look It's crazy. I can't look at I can't look
Speaker 1: at a women's magazine, like, I just can't like these
Speaker 1: these things are They make me sick. Yeah, it's nauseating,
Speaker 1: you know. I was. I was. I was at a
Speaker 1: spot the other day with the spot I used to
Speaker 1: work at, and I saw laying on the counter, Uh,
Speaker 1: this this women's magazine and it was literally called the
Speaker 1: fix It Issue. And the entire cover was just different
Speaker 1: sections in the magazine of things esthetically because if it
Speaker 1: was at the fix It Issue, and then it was like,
Speaker 1: you know, in yourself, fix your inner your inner self
Speaker 1: through something. I'd be like, okay, well that's but but
Speaker 1: basically it's a magazine that's going out to women, that's
Speaker 1: telling women that they're broken esthetically broken, not okay, And
Speaker 1: I was like, what the I almost I almost just
Speaker 1: like took it and throw it away. But then I
Speaker 1: was like, well, this isn't my properties, Like what magazine
Speaker 1: was it? No, it wasn't. It wasn't one of the
Speaker 1: more general ones. It was. I guess it was the
Speaker 1: spot usually gets more like aesthetic based because it is
Speaker 1: a beauty industry place. Uh so, I don't remember what
Speaker 1: it was. It wasn't one that I had heard of before.
Speaker 1: But the whole magazine was literally dedicated to telling you
Speaker 1: things that we're wrong with you, I mean, how to
Speaker 1: fix if you look at all the influences in a
Speaker 1: woman's life, a young woman's life, from from the time
Speaker 1: that she's you you hip Huberty, and you become aware
Speaker 1: of like your womanhood and you're not just like when
Speaker 1: you get past the age of like you can walk
Speaker 1: around without a shirt and one gives a fuss your
Speaker 1: kid when when we get past that the good old days.
Speaker 1: I honestly, I think I still call a fire is
Speaker 1: being fine with these fucking double a Today's nobody cares,
Speaker 1: that's all I feel. I'm like, yeah, whatever, You're surrounded
Speaker 1: by all these little, tiny things of like women should
Speaker 1: be better, women should be pleasers, women should be and
Speaker 1: it's just tiny instances. It's a lot of times, it's
Speaker 1: not huge deals when you add that up of your lifetime,
Speaker 1: like they're really shapes how a woman looks at herself
Speaker 1: in the world, and it's so tragic to see, like
Speaker 1: a lot of the emails we get are just these
Speaker 1: women are I'm like, I read them, I'm like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, you just need to love yourself more. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to it's hard to love yourself
Speaker 1: when you have all of these microaggressions telling you that
Speaker 1: you're not enough. And on top, I was just having
Speaker 1: this card like I was telling christ like I was like,
Speaker 1: not a pretty child. Yeah, she told me that. I'm like, really,
Speaker 1: because you're so beautiful, Like you're so naturally beautiful. And
Speaker 1: that's why I thought you were popular high school because
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you're probably the cool girl with
Speaker 1: the cool haircut and the rad loafers with socks and
Speaker 1: ship no, uh no, I mean I really my mother.
Speaker 1: My mother is very beautiful. My she was an actress
Speaker 1: and a singer and a dancer on Broadway. And my
Speaker 1: sister's gorgeous, gorgeous. And it took me a long time
Speaker 1: to like grow into my face. And I remember I
Speaker 1: saw a picture of an aunt of mine as a
Speaker 1: little girl, and we looked the same. But I looked
Speaker 1: at her and I knew that we looked very different,
Speaker 1: um like in real time, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: looked just like Kate like. And then I was like
Speaker 1: looking at her and looking at the picture, and I
Speaker 1: said to my mother, I was like, all, is her
Speaker 1: nose different? And she was like, oh, yeah, you you
Speaker 1: have the same nose. But you can get a nose
Speaker 1: job too. And I remember thinking, Okay, I'll get a
Speaker 1: nose job and I'll feel better about the way I look.
Speaker 1: And then I told my aunt's on my father's side
Speaker 1: that I was getting a nose job because I was
Speaker 1: very excited to be pretty. I wanted to be pretty.
Speaker 1: You want to be pretty because you're left out when
Speaker 1: you're not, because that's a woman's power. Quote unquote or
Speaker 1: what they think. It is like that that's a currency,
Speaker 1: of course. It is like even when women die there
Speaker 1: before it's their name when they die. And beautiful every victim,
Speaker 1: every female victim of a kidnapping or murder, she was
Speaker 1: so beautiful, she was so beautiful. Does that make it
Speaker 1: more tragic? That's what I mean. It's somehow more tragic
Speaker 1: to lose a beautifully Yeah. And I remember I said
Speaker 1: this to my aunt and she and and this was
Speaker 1: part of a thing that really shaped me. She said,
Speaker 1: there's better things to be them pretty. Yeah, go on,
Speaker 1: she goes nose jobs are for actors and people who
Speaker 1: spend too much time looking in the mirror. And I
Speaker 1: was like, well, I'm very dramatic, but I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: there are better things to be than pretty. But that
Speaker 1: was the first person that was the first person to
Speaker 1: say that to me. I have no one's ever. When
Speaker 1: I was in high school, middle school, I always thought like,
Speaker 1: I want to be pretty. That's all I want all
Speaker 1: because if I'm pretty, people like me more, I'll get
Speaker 1: more jobs, I'll be I'll just be more likable overall
Speaker 1: to the world of people be fascinated by me. People
Speaker 1: because I was fascinated by beautiful women women and I
Speaker 1: still am. But that's not even a little bit close
Speaker 1: to like reality, yeah, or what what matters about a woman?
Speaker 1: Like when you meet a woman who is incredible, you
Speaker 1: don't give a funk what she looks like, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: You're just there, don't force it's so yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: think I even where I didn't even wasn't even concerned
Speaker 1: with being pretty until I was released into the real world,
Speaker 1: like in college, because like a house where like my
Speaker 1: mom didn't wear makeup. It wasn't something that was important
Speaker 1: or ever addressed. Like I had a like iron my
Speaker 1: clothes and look presentable, but like looking pretty was just
Speaker 1: never an issue. And I kind of like, I wish
Speaker 1: I could go back to that, like just live in
Speaker 1: that house forever, because it's nice to live in a
Speaker 1: house where being pretty isn't it isn't important as it's
Speaker 1: stress free, I feel like worry about because it's not
Speaker 1: I'm saying, because it's not importan you can use the reason, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think that that's the thing that I've held
Speaker 1: onto for a long time. Is there better things to
Speaker 1: be than pretty? And I think when I started to
Speaker 1: be pretty. I was already past being pretty. That's great
Speaker 1: and that's the prettiest. Love when dudes try to like
Speaker 1: kick game and they're like, you're so pretty, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I loved because the reason I know
Speaker 1: that you were unattractive as a child because I was
Speaker 1: at a stand up show and you kind of like
Speaker 1: went off on a on a tangent and it was
Speaker 1: hilarious to me because you were very like you just
Speaker 1: into the fact that you were attractive. And I love that.
Speaker 1: I love like a good cockiness because it's not cocky
Speaker 1: if it's true and if you're just like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: know it, Like I don't have to basically say thank you,
Speaker 1: like people get mad when someone gives you a compliment
Speaker 1: and you go, oh, thanks, I know, because it sounds cocky,
Speaker 1: but it's like, no, you don't have to play dumb
Speaker 1: to the be a lot. Try I'm getting ready. I
Speaker 1: know how pretty I look. Thank you very thank you
Speaker 1: very much. I changed me off at five times before
Speaker 1: I left the house. No, but I just like I'm
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, so what, yeah, but it doesn't matter,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. But I mean it's and I say
Speaker 1: I'm like a yeah, but like okay, thanks, like you
Speaker 1: think you're like making some big like wave in my
Speaker 1: fucking ocean by telling me that, right. Well, And when
Speaker 1: the that attitude is presented by the person complimenting you,
Speaker 1: it's like a fuck off man. And I think that
Speaker 1: comes from the thing that so so many people do
Speaker 1: need to be told that they are pretty. Like it's
Speaker 1: it's almost like accrewing points in like a video game.
Speaker 1: Like every time someone tells you you're pretty, it's like
Speaker 1: super Mario getting a coin, Like I really feel like
Speaker 1: now he has fireballs permanently and Yoshi, but like say
Speaker 1: something that like me, like like say something that means
Speaker 1: something yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, like I yeah. So
Speaker 1: let's talk about the way this fireplace looks. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about the way the table looks. Like. If we're talking
Speaker 1: about the way things look, your next, sir, like, and
Speaker 1: that bald spot is showing. Um, now do you want
Speaker 1: to get into because this is a lot of the
Speaker 1: reason that we had you here today. You were in
Speaker 1: a super uh severe car accident recently in recent years,
Speaker 1: and I know that sucked you up deeply affected you
Speaker 1: mentally physically for sure. Yeah, And when I wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit. Sure what happened? What happened?
Speaker 1: I was in uh In, We're in two thousand sixteen
Speaker 1: right now, So it was April of two thousand and fifteen.
Speaker 1: I was on the Pacific Coast Highway, stopped behind a
Speaker 1: line of cars on the highway, um waiting someone was
Speaker 1: like doing something up here, and another car came and
Speaker 1: hit us from behind, going seventy miles per hour. Holy shit,
Speaker 1: So we were Yeah. He was like, but he's also
Speaker 1: in his nineties, this man, um, and he know he
Speaker 1: lost his license. Um, but I was Our airbags didn't
Speaker 1: come out, um, and I snapped all the way forward
Speaker 1: before the seatbelt caught me to snap me back, um,
Speaker 1: because you were to stop. It wasn't like because that
Speaker 1: seatbelt thing is attributed to the brakes. Yeah, no, well
Speaker 1: he had the brakes on because we were still right
Speaker 1: but it was just like it hit the back for
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Um, But I was lucky because
Speaker 1: the person who was in the car before me had
Speaker 1: the the seat pushed back, and if they had and
Speaker 1: I would have broken my face on the dashboard. There
Speaker 1: were like so many little things that could have like
Speaker 1: if you if I had my seatbelt off, I would
Speaker 1: have been through the windshield. Like. It's like a lot
Speaker 1: of like very I was very lucky in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways. Um. And when I came back, I hit
Speaker 1: the back of my head on on the seat and
Speaker 1: it gave me a pretty gnarly concussion. My disks also
Speaker 1: like tore out from my back and I ended up
Speaker 1: needing to have surgery the past December. Um. And it
Speaker 1: was a slow recovery process because of my concussion. I
Speaker 1: was on bedrest for like two and a half months.
Speaker 1: I couldn't read because I couldn't um. You know, you
Speaker 1: know when you look at something in a different language,
Speaker 1: That's what it looked like to me. So I knew
Speaker 1: it was words, and I knew I should know them. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then I was having um, I was I was
Speaker 1: getting like dizzy spells. If places were too noisy, I'd
Speaker 1: get very dizzy. And how was that not being on
Speaker 1: bed rest for that long? Because you're a woman who
Speaker 1: would just go, go go, You're always working on things,
Speaker 1: You're always being proactive about your career and doing projects,
Speaker 1: and then you're kind of like forced to stop. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: it was I think it was a real combination of
Speaker 1: things for me. I think it was horror. It's horrifying
Speaker 1: to be alone in that way, um to be because
Speaker 1: I was uh in a roommate, but it's like when
Speaker 1: all you're doing is lying down, I felt like I
Speaker 1: was just like watching her go in and out, which
Speaker 1: was very strange. And she was there for me as
Speaker 1: much as she could be, but it's like still very lonely.
Speaker 1: And I was single when I got in a car accident. Uh,
Speaker 1: so you don't have that companionship that that person like
Speaker 1: when all you can do is lie down, you need
Speaker 1: someone who can just lie down with you. So that
Speaker 1: was that was not there um and it was it
Speaker 1: was just I didn't know how to ask for help
Speaker 1: because I looked fine after my accident. So I it
Speaker 1: was a weird acceptance thing for me to where I
Speaker 1: didn't want to ask people to come over and like
Speaker 1: sit with me. But I was really left to my
Speaker 1: own thoughts in a way that I've never been before.
Speaker 1: The there's a lot of silence, um that you have
Speaker 1: to be in And did you even look at your phone?
Speaker 1: Sometimes it would go, uh, it's like the screen it
Speaker 1: hurt my eye. I also, uh, I didn't realize I
Speaker 1: had a concussion after my car accident. So I was
Speaker 1: going about life. I was still trying to do stuff,
Speaker 1: and I remember, um, I came back. This happened in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. I came back to New York and I
Speaker 1: got on stage at the stand and the light hit
Speaker 1: my eyes and I couldn't talk, and I just started
Speaker 1: saying I don't know into the microphone, and the host
Speaker 1: had to come back up and get me off stage.
Speaker 1: And I went back home and I, uh, I, I
Speaker 1: never talked to strangers really on the street, but this
Speaker 1: guy was like outside of my apartment and he was gorgeous,
Speaker 1: so I probably had something to do with it. Um
Speaker 1: he's from Haiti and he had like this like thick accent,
Speaker 1: and he was like this artist and he was showing
Speaker 1: me his hard work and I was like engauged uband
Speaker 1: are you my husband? And I lost my sight and
Speaker 1: my hearing and collapsed and he had to like help
Speaker 1: me into my apartment and my roommate was upstairs, like
Speaker 1: I couldn't even helped me up the stairs. So they
Speaker 1: called nib one no because like I was like no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm fine, and I like, oh, I threw up. I
Speaker 1: threw up in the toilet too. I remember, you didn't
Speaker 1: get a medical exam. They didn't an ambulance. After the
Speaker 1: car accident, there was an ambulance. We went into the
Speaker 1: hospital and uh they gave me an X ray and
Speaker 1: I just my my Also, my natural reaction to to
Speaker 1: emergency is to make jokes. So I was at the
Speaker 1: accident um cracking jokes and like hitting on the I
Speaker 1: started hitting on the fireman. Uh yeah, I do. I
Speaker 1: hit on fireman every day, but like these men are
Speaker 1: here to save my life. I'm in a stretch. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know you got hot? You know you boys are hot. Boss.
Speaker 1: I was like you hot, boids put you all talk
Speaker 1: about and I was like y'all, like y'all are hot,
Speaker 1: like you actors on the side because you look good.
Speaker 1: Like I was like a cool aunt. A car accident.
Speaker 1: Uh just like when that I was in the accident
Speaker 1: with was like are you okay? And I was like
Speaker 1: I'm great. Uh. So we got in there and I
Speaker 1: knew something was wrong because I couldn't remember my insurance information.
Speaker 1: I couldn't remember, but I thought I was I've never
Speaker 1: also been injured, so I thought I must still be
Speaker 1: in shock. I must be it must be something. And
Speaker 1: they took my X rays and then a motorcycle accident
Speaker 1: came into the hospital and I just got left in
Speaker 1: the hallway for I think like three hours, and I
Speaker 1: started breaking down and saying, I need to go home.
Speaker 1: I need to go home. I go I need friendship.
Speaker 1: This is not friendship. You're very quotable, yea, I said
Speaker 1: a lot of weird. Did you have any friends visit you?
Speaker 1: Or I was in Los Angeles, so Shimika was there
Speaker 1: and she was in the hospital, but I looked fine. Um.
Speaker 1: And then the guy I was in the accident with
Speaker 1: and I stayed together for like three days because we
Speaker 1: felt really we both were so shaken up by that's scary.
Speaker 1: I stayed at his place for three days. Um. And
Speaker 1: they gave us pain killers, and I was like in
Speaker 1: real rough shape, and I'm taking these pain killers, thinking
Speaker 1: that that's what's making me so loopy right and nauseous
Speaker 1: and out of it was these pain killers. But I'm
Speaker 1: like it's killing me. But I'm like, I'm only gonna
Speaker 1: take him for a week. Um. And then I started
Speaker 1: saying things like I went into like a Dwayne read
Speaker 1: and I couldn't find something, and I just started saying, um,
Speaker 1: can somebody help mommy find I forget what? I was, like,
Speaker 1: how mommy find the band aids? A cute tips place?
Speaker 1: Can somebody be a mommy's helper please? Like what? Like
Speaker 1: what the fuck? Can somebody be a mommy's help her
Speaker 1: to a young woman, to literally anyone around me, not
Speaker 1: even people who worked there, just like anyone apartment wishes
Speaker 1: there was a kid, like, I mean, I can help you, lady,
Speaker 1: if you really need it. Everyone probably just thought you
Speaker 1: were hammered. I think, yeah, I mean, and I also
Speaker 1: like I'm kind of a weirdo too, right, so they're like, so,
Speaker 1: like he's really weird today, Like yeah, it wasn't like
Speaker 1: it wasn't like so far off of my personality that
Speaker 1: like people were alarmed. And it really wasn't until I
Speaker 1: lost my sight in my hearing or anyone was like,
Speaker 1: I think something's really wrong. Yeah. My mom had a
Speaker 1: concussion for almost a year. She didn't know, and she
Speaker 1: thought she was dying. And the doctor legit she got
Speaker 1: a head butted by our dog. That's that's how she
Speaker 1: got it, But she didn't know and they thought. The
Speaker 1: doctors were like, I don't know, maybe it's cancer, and
Speaker 1: like she was designating, like Christina, I want you to
Speaker 1: get my china, you can get my living room table.
Speaker 1: We were like Mom's dying. We didn't go home and
Speaker 1: say by to word. And then she had a concussion. Yeah, dude,
Speaker 1: concussions are the real fuck their nightmare. Um, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of like sweating and like a lot of like
Speaker 1: I could get like like like what what is that?
Speaker 1: When when holash, I would get like crazy hot flashes
Speaker 1: and sweat through all my clothes like I was. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was in a real fragile state for a while. Um.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that it kind of like helped you to
Speaker 1: appreciate your body and the in a way that you
Speaker 1: had never before. Well it was interesting because like I,
Speaker 1: as I said, I was like a kind of a
Speaker 1: late bloomer. And uh, when you're that attention from being
Speaker 1: pretty is a little it's overwhelming, a little overwhelming, especially
Speaker 1: when there's a lot of like negative stuff that comes
Speaker 1: along with it too, and especially being in comedy. I
Speaker 1: started to hide my body when I performed, so I
Speaker 1: was wearing things that that were loose and it was
Speaker 1: like loose t shirts and jeans and like sneakers because
Speaker 1: they didn't want people looking at me. Um and I
Speaker 1: was kind of in that mode when this accident happened,
Speaker 1: where I felt like I was like constantly like in
Speaker 1: a snuggy of some variation. And then when I started
Speaker 1: to get back up on my feet and started to
Speaker 1: like walk around, i'd wear a back brace. So I
Speaker 1: was forced to wear a loose clothing again, but in
Speaker 1: a way where it wasn't a choice. And that's when
Speaker 1: you were like, funk this, Yeah, it's really interesting. I
Speaker 1: I when I lost my body is when I really
Speaker 1: started to appreciate it. Um and like, it wasn't until
Speaker 1: like two months ago that I could even wear clothes
Speaker 1: that were really fitted because I was so crooked for
Speaker 1: my surgery that I felt self conscious. I felt like
Speaker 1: you could see that I wasn't that you could see
Speaker 1: how I looked like a like a squiggly line to me,
Speaker 1: um and I and I and I felt like my
Speaker 1: shoulders run even and like I felt just like not
Speaker 1: right and I and I was sort of still like hiding.
Speaker 1: So it was interesting when I started to be able
Speaker 1: to go without the back brace, and and and feel stronger.
Speaker 1: And I started working out with a there like a
Speaker 1: physical trainer and physical therapist. So it's like I'm feeling
Speaker 1: like stronger and better and like I have my body
Speaker 1: now and I get dressed so much differently, like so
Speaker 1: much differently like and I don't care anymore if I'm
Speaker 1: going to be on a stage or if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: like like do you wear clothes? Like what do you
Speaker 1: think of when you before you put on an outfit?
Speaker 1: Because I completely understand the notion of wanting to cover
Speaker 1: your body because you don't want the attention because it's
Speaker 1: it's unwarranted and you just don't that's not the focus
Speaker 1: of when you get up on stage and do stand
Speaker 1: up comedy, Like what do you do put on outfits?
Speaker 1: Do you dress yourself? Like? What how you want to feel?
Speaker 1: Or well, I think the other thing not not I'm
Speaker 1: going to answer this, but and I think the other
Speaker 1: thing about that the kind of solitude that you're in
Speaker 1: when you're on a bed rest is that you're you
Speaker 1: you face yourself in a way that you probably have
Speaker 1: never had to before. Um So I I feel like
Speaker 1: there there's a new section of my life and this
Speaker 1: is it. I don't feel the same as they did
Speaker 1: before all of this. I feel like a very different
Speaker 1: person and I feel like I had to figure out
Speaker 1: how to like really love myself in a way that
Speaker 1: i've I don't think I did before. I think I
Speaker 1: just was going, you know what I mean, when you're
Speaker 1: when you're just on like autopilot in a way, well,
Speaker 1: and it's hard. You know, people aren't alone a lot,
Speaker 1: like New Yorkers don't get a lot of alone time.
Speaker 1: If you live by yourself, that's a privilege. Usually it's
Speaker 1: considered because it's hard, it's expensive. And then if you
Speaker 1: live the boyfriend, but also traveling, there's people everywhere all
Speaker 1: the time, and then you're the industry you're in, you're
Speaker 1: always with people, and it's like to be by yourself.
Speaker 1: Like for me, sometimes when I'm sitting on the toilet
Speaker 1: at the only moments in my in my day where
Speaker 1: I am alone, and I take it in so much.
Speaker 1: And then when I get a day by myself, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I feel rejuvenated. But then too much time and then
Speaker 1: you're like, Okay, now I'm forcing I have to face myself.
Speaker 1: It's a hell of your own sins. I mean, you
Speaker 1: are spect like I think I just like really struggled
Speaker 1: for a long time too with depression and like low
Speaker 1: self worth. And I had all of these things that
Speaker 1: I had acquired over the years, uh and built up,
Speaker 1: And you have no choice but to figure out a
Speaker 1: way out of it um in that situation because you're
Speaker 1: it's like you're literally being tased by your own thoughts.
Speaker 1: So I have now a sense of of like pride
Speaker 1: in myself that I don't think I had before. So
Speaker 1: I think, uh, and I do a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: for self care because I think what I said before
Speaker 1: about feminism is like you can't you can't show up
Speaker 1: for other people if you're not showing up for yourself.
Speaker 1: So what and that means to me? It means like
Speaker 1: a lot of I do, Like I meditate, and I
Speaker 1: do a lot of things to help me feel good
Speaker 1: and and one of those things is getting dressed and
Speaker 1: color and like I still love to wear black. I
Speaker 1: have like a section of my like I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it, But I mean like it's more I
Speaker 1: dress less about how I want others to see me
Speaker 1: and more about how I see myself. I think that's
Speaker 1: been my biggest shift in in getting dressed and like,
Speaker 1: I'm just so happy to be able to to stand.
Speaker 1: And I know that sounds like such a weird thing
Speaker 1: to be happy when taken away from you. You have
Speaker 1: a new found appreciation for it, I would imagine, And
Speaker 1: like every day that I get stronger, I'm I'm so
Speaker 1: grateful for And I think like I put clothes on
Speaker 1: my body in a way that I'm just like, look
Speaker 1: at you, you know, like I almost looked at it,
Speaker 1: call Molly like a separate thing, and like look at
Speaker 1: your back, let your back, uh. And I and I
Speaker 1: I put clothes on in a way that I think,
Speaker 1: UM kind of shows that off in a way that
Speaker 1: I wasn't before. So it's a totally different way of living.
Speaker 1: Like I don't I look back because I feel more
Speaker 1: true to yourself. Yeah, And I think I think I
Speaker 1: made a decision this year that I was um only
Speaker 1: in a date when I felt strong and I felt
Speaker 1: like I could give something to another person, um, but
Speaker 1: also when I felt like I had loved myself as
Speaker 1: much as I could. Yeah, that's a great And it's
Speaker 1: been two years since I've dated, and I like just
Speaker 1: went on my first date like three weeks ago. How
Speaker 1: to go. Was it like riding a bike for the
Speaker 1: first time again? They tried to hold my hand and
Speaker 1: I was like, the funk out of here? What the hell?
Speaker 1: The first date, he's very cute, um, but it was
Speaker 1: like it was interesting the second I said that, and
Speaker 1: then I was like, okay, I'm here. I was like, uh, whoa,
Speaker 1: we're here. It was scary. It's a little scary, but
Speaker 1: it feels really good too. I mean, and it's only
Speaker 1: like been a date, two dates, but it's like it
Speaker 1: feels good to just even be open in that way again,
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, that's awesome, and to like spend time
Speaker 1: with someone not out of loneliness, but out of wanting
Speaker 1: to spend time with some like just wanting to share
Speaker 1: and being able to like being able to is is
Speaker 1: such a gift that I never even I don't think
Speaker 1: I even ever considered before. So like, I just I
Speaker 1: don't feel like the same person. So it's interesting, like dating,
Speaker 1: like I don't almost know how to operate because I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is cool. A clusterfuck. I'm just like we're having
Speaker 1: a good time, which is good. That's how I feel,
Speaker 1: even without having been in a car accident. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's crazy to have like it's it's so crazy to
Speaker 1: just be happy, Like it's it's confusing a little bit
Speaker 1: too when you're like, where are the obstacles? Oh wait,
Speaker 1: I don't have to have them. You don't have to
Speaker 1: and they can be like not a big deal to
Speaker 1: you know, like it can be like fine, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: you don't have to have an experience. Not every experience
Speaker 1: you have has to be attached to pain. And I
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of the times we go through
Speaker 1: life thinking that it does like there's some people who
Speaker 1: can't experience something without pain. They have to complain, they
Speaker 1: have to be tired, they have to be upset about
Speaker 1: something in order to experience things. And I and I
Speaker 1: suddenly don't feel that way. I mean, I guess not suddenly.
Speaker 1: It's been a cool two years. That's amazing. And on
Speaker 1: that note, can you tell us a little bit about
Speaker 1: I know you Austin Martinez comedy is which is your
Speaker 1: comedy duo? Is working on a project? You want to
Speaker 1: plug that? Uh? Yeah, when does this come out? I'm
Speaker 1: not sure we're gonna be on tour all months, So
Speaker 1: where you get when we're not? Um, it's a sure
Speaker 1: I do a show on True TV called Late Night Snack.
Speaker 1: It's premiering um November two. Nice and I create musical
Speaker 1: comedy with my partner, Christina Martinez. Shamika Christina Martinez is
Speaker 1: that's a fun, amazing name, right, that girl got a
Speaker 1: great name. If you say Shamika Christina Martinez to a
Speaker 1: to like a three year old, the child will say
Speaker 1: it back to you like this joy. Yeah, like I
Speaker 1: say it with joy love saying Christina Martinez, that's amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So we do musical comedy. It's very it's it's very
Speaker 1: based in um feminism and how we feel about what
Speaker 1: feminism is. Feminism is yeah, uh and uh that's and
Speaker 1: we I don't know, can I say this? I guess
Speaker 1: I can. I mean I signed the contract. We gotta.
Speaker 1: We got a pilot deal from True so we're working. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're working on a show for them right now. So
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully Smoothie will have our own show in
Speaker 1: a few months. Oh. I call myself smooth mall. By
Speaker 1: the way, I guess I should have said that. That's
Speaker 1: what I started to your cat or no, that's what
Speaker 1: I started calling myself after my back surgery when I
Speaker 1: was playing killers. I was like, oh smooth mall. When
Speaker 1: I got my new back, that's what I did. Uh
Speaker 1: new back now me? Yeah? Oh um, yeah, I guess
Speaker 1: that's where we are. Where's what's your Twitter handle? It's
Speaker 1: Molly oh Austin, as is my Instagram, which I'm really
Speaker 1: on more. I would say Instagram more than Twitter. Um.
Speaker 1: But uh and then our stuff we put it on
Speaker 1: Austin Martinez Comedy dot com. Awesome. Alright, well, thank you
Speaker 1: so much Molly for sitting down with us on your
Speaker 1: favorite chair. I'm so fust I'm in love with that chair.
Speaker 1: I have them for so many years. It's so glad, beautiful.
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