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Speaker 1: I'm Christina, I'm correct, We're sorry about last night, the
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Speaker 1: remind us? First? Okay? Subject line of this email, I
Speaker 1: feel dirty for having sex with my husband. That's good, good, Hey,
Speaker 1: fucker's I'm feeling shameful for having kinky sex with my
Speaker 1: own husband. A little backstory. I'm twenty four years old
Speaker 1: and started my sexual experience as very young. I was
Speaker 1: fourteen when I lost my virginity and was very sexually
Speaker 1: explorative with a decent amount of guys up until I
Speaker 1: met my husband. I was seventeen, he was nineteen. A
Speaker 1: month later, I was pregnant and we were both married
Speaker 1: before my daughter was born. Don't all cry for me.
Speaker 1: I finished college and don't worry one. I finished college
Speaker 1: and now have a cushy professional job, as does my husband. Dope.
Speaker 1: I lucked out and have an awesome life. Anyway. While
Speaker 1: I've had many sexual adventurous experiences, my husband has only
Speaker 1: had vanilla sex with two other girls before me. Recently,
Speaker 1: we have been talking about exploring all the things he's
Speaker 1: been wanting to try, from me playing with nas to
Speaker 1: me peeing on him at the door. I was like,
Speaker 1: really glad your mom off the room. Um for me
Speaker 1: peeing on him? Peeing on him? It's not my thing,
Speaker 1: but I'm willing to try it for him. He also
Speaker 1: wanted to try stuff with a guy. I set up
Speaker 1: a meat and he went to get a b J
Speaker 1: from guy. That's so nice of you. Turns out we
Speaker 1: found something he wasn't into. L O L no um.
Speaker 1: The newest adventure is looking for a threesome with another guy,
Speaker 1: a gang bang for me, or a couple of swaps.
Speaker 1: I'm really into talking about it and looking for people
Speaker 1: to meet up with. We have had a lot of
Speaker 1: good sex while fantasizing about it, and that fun you
Speaker 1: just got to talk about it. It It makes everything magical.
Speaker 1: My issue is that every morning after our exploring, I
Speaker 1: feel shameful. I don't understand why I really enjoy what
Speaker 1: we're doing. He has never pushed me to do anything
Speaker 1: and has been respectful, respectful of all my boundaries. But
Speaker 1: I can't shape feeling dirty. Maybe it's because I'm the
Speaker 1: professional suburban mom president of the p t A two
Speaker 1: kids and a white picket fence. Women like me don't
Speaker 1: do things like this. I roll. I want to keep
Speaker 1: getting kinky with my husband, but I can't shake this feeling. Help.
Speaker 1: M hm, Uh, you didn't mention religion in those things,
Speaker 1: so I was like, maybe it was religion, But it
Speaker 1: seems like you were kinky and stuff all along, and
Speaker 1: now that your husband's on board, you're like, way to
Speaker 1: feel bad, But uh, maybe you maybe feel bad. It's
Speaker 1: part of the fun as long as it doesn't make you.
Speaker 1: I mean to an extent because I remember, like, I'll
Speaker 1: never forget that freaking when we interviewed Dan Savage, that
Speaker 1: advice he gave me when I would kept seeing that
Speaker 1: one guy for five years and I kept going back
Speaker 1: to him and I hated myself for it and he
Speaker 1: was the older guy. And Dan was like, yeah, but
Speaker 1: maybe that's part of why you liked it, and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh ship and he kind of like made
Speaker 1: me turn that guilt into like part of the reason
Speaker 1: why it was fun. And he was right. I mean
Speaker 1: that instance, he was right. Um. It could also be
Speaker 1: because maybe she feels like she's like introducing her husband
Speaker 1: to all of this and she's seeing him go from
Speaker 1: or yeah, and in a way she feels like she's
Speaker 1: taking away like the vanilla and tarnishing him a little bit.
Speaker 1: You can feel like that. I can certainly understand feeling
Speaker 1: like that, being like, oh I had this, like I
Speaker 1: had this, this guy was so sweet and so naive,
Speaker 1: and now I'm kind of like making him into this
Speaker 1: like sexual like bad boy, which that's so exciting that
Speaker 1: you're seeing someone blossom sexually and doing things you can
Speaker 1: feel guilt about it. I can understand being built in
Speaker 1: shame about it. You felt guilty about that. No, has
Speaker 1: never been the I've never been. Yeah, I've never been
Speaker 1: the more experienced one, So yeah, I really, I mean,
Speaker 1: and if I am, I've never been anyone who with
Speaker 1: anyone who was just like tame. So even if I
Speaker 1: was like a little more sexual, it wasn't enough that
Speaker 1: I would feel that, like the discrepancy between us. Um.
Speaker 1: But you know, I think shake that feeling because it
Speaker 1: seems like your husband is enjoying it. And if you're unsure,
Speaker 1: you seem pretty sure that he's having fun. Maybe ask
Speaker 1: him just to get some peace of mind. But it's
Speaker 1: really cool how open he is, because he's like, I
Speaker 1: think I want to be from me to never mind.
Speaker 1: I didn't like that, like, but you trial and error
Speaker 1: such as everything, and it's really cool how open and
Speaker 1: explored of you guys are. And I really relationship sounds
Speaker 1: really fun. And the whole p T A Moment, President
Speaker 1: of p T, A mom and two kids, white pick offense.
Speaker 1: That's so fun that you get to have this other
Speaker 1: side of yourself that you can explore with a partner
Speaker 1: that you love. It's very girlfriend's guy to divorce. You
Speaker 1: love that show. But I think the thing is with
Speaker 1: the shame, no matter where it's coming from, you just
Speaker 1: gotta always remember shame is learned. It's learned from somewhere,
Speaker 1: whether it's your religion, whether it be something your parents
Speaker 1: said to you, whether it be you know is the media,
Speaker 1: or how women are portrayed or how women are expected
Speaker 1: to act. But on the flip side, shame can be unlearned.
Speaker 1: So just know and remind yourself that nothing you're doing
Speaker 1: is bad. In fact, it's good because it's helping you
Speaker 1: to evolve sexually, it's bringing you pleasure, it's not hurting
Speaker 1: anybody else seems to have a really healthy sex life,
Speaker 1: very healthy sex life, and you know NASA, let your
Speaker 1: freak flag fly. Yeah girl, Um, alright, so real quick,
Speaker 1: we want to talk about birth control because obviously everyone's everyone,
Speaker 1: everyone's scared. Everyone's going into panic mode. I understand them.
Speaker 1: I U d s. You don't need to go into
Speaker 1: panic mode though. I think panic mode is actually the
Speaker 1: least productive thing we can do. We need to go
Speaker 1: into let's prepare mode. So our friend of Wendy Kent
Speaker 1: is putting together something. It's called Plans C and basically
Speaker 1: all it is that she's stockpiling Plan B because if
Speaker 1: it's outlawed, she wants to have it and be able
Speaker 1: to give it to anyone who needs it. If you
Speaker 1: want to donate to this, uh, you can go to
Speaker 1: generosity dot com slash you know, well it's a big,
Speaker 1: long length, but I'll put it. It's called plans c
Speaker 1: and it's on generosity dot com. Uh. She's gonna distribute
Speaker 1: it to anyone who needs it, and then all the
Speaker 1: stuff that's left over before it expires will be donated
Speaker 1: to women's shelters and rape cry cist groups. Sue per
Speaker 1: great and it's things like that. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: it's great to speak your mind and stuff, but it's
Speaker 1: like these active things are there, things that are really
Speaker 1: going to make a difference more of your Facebook status,
Speaker 1: more than a tweet, more than making a sign with
Speaker 1: glittering posters. Okay, we did that, Now what do we
Speaker 1: do next? What's the active thing that we do? Um?
Speaker 1: And then, uh, this is an email called free birth control.
Speaker 1: Get it before any potential choice that you have as
Speaker 1: a woman is made for you. Hi, Karin and Christina.
Speaker 1: I'm reaching out to you guys because I know you
Speaker 1: have a massive audience and I'm trying to reach as
Speaker 1: many women as I can. In light of the current
Speaker 1: of current events and the days following the inauguration, I've
Speaker 1: been trying to stay busy by focusing on causes that
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Speaker 1: so lovely meeting you ladies in Denver. You can continue
Speaker 1: to inspire me, make me laugh on these days when
Speaker 1: life isn't too funny. I hope you have fun on
Speaker 1: the rest of your tour. We did. Thanks for all
Speaker 1: you do. Um and this is what kind of we
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Speaker 1: in your towns, ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the show, Naomi.
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Speaker 1: this podcast. Actually much more natural, I think, is the
Speaker 1: way it went. No, I'm telling you that when I
Speaker 1: met him, and I mean it's like I would have
Speaker 1: never thought he was a person I was going to
Speaker 1: end up with. You didn't, do you remember the moment
Speaker 1: you met him? Yes? We met Okay, yeah, I told
Speaker 1: you that I do. That was his thing. So we met.
Speaker 1: I was we were both doing this lottery thing where
Speaker 1: they would take random students and put them up to perform,
Speaker 1: like you know, after Harold Knights teachers. So it's a
Speaker 1: random thing. So we just had like one rehearsal that
Speaker 1: we're supposed to do it. And I see him there
Speaker 1: and like y'all have met him before the listeners, my
Speaker 1: ju boo is shorter than me, okay, and he looked
Speaker 1: about fifteen, like he has a baby face. It was
Speaker 1: a perfect circle of a face. And so like seven
Speaker 1: years ago, you know, I saw him and he was
Speaker 1: like he had a day job, so he was like
Speaker 1: coming from work and him and work clothes. It's so funny.
Speaker 1: It looks like a kid dressing up. Well now he
Speaker 1: looks like a worldmaker. But like back then, I was
Speaker 1: just like all these children doing and product, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like I didn't. I did not think
Speaker 1: about him, right, um? And so wait which one you
Speaker 1: were saying recently too? How you were like I would
Speaker 1: I like being taller. I was listening to one I've
Speaker 1: said that before because I didd a guy that was
Speaker 1: I was a little taller than I. You were like
Speaker 1: into that. Yeah, I've always loved me a tall glass
Speaker 1: of milk, and yet I so rarely find one, Like
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous, Like it was. It's almost like laughable, the
Speaker 1: extent to which they just shrink with every relationship. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and your boyfriends keep getting shorter and shorter. Yes, I'm like,
Speaker 1: how when like, literally all I want is like six four,
Speaker 1: you know, because it takes a lot, Like I want
Speaker 1: to feel dainty. How tall are you? Five? Eight? But
Speaker 1: I would to feel that was my guest. Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna guess it. So you do want to feel dainty,
Speaker 1: but your jupoos so much shorter? Yeah, but you but
Speaker 1: you know that doesn't in the end, that doesn't matter, right.
Speaker 1: It's like the same way we all black when the
Speaker 1: lights go out, we all the same height when we
Speaker 1: layd down, you know. Help hell. But it was definitely
Speaker 1: like something I had to get used to. Like the
Speaker 1: first time we made out and I was like and
Speaker 1: I said, it was like, is it weird that I'm
Speaker 1: taller than you? And he was like, no, is it
Speaker 1: weird for you? Like he kind of knew. He was,
Speaker 1: like it was waiting for you to bring it and
Speaker 1: I was like no, I'm like really open that. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to see where you're at. So how did
Speaker 1: you go from doing the lottery imp off to making out?
Speaker 1: I know? So then like so we met. And then
Speaker 1: that was when I was trying to do improv, or
Speaker 1: actually I was trying to I was doing stand up
Speaker 1: hosting improv shows. So I was seeing him around the
Speaker 1: town and then again because he looks at him. But
Speaker 1: then he told me it turned out he had left
Speaker 1: grad school and he was an adjunct professor, Like, oh
Speaker 1: is rude? He had a life, and I was like, oh, carry,
Speaker 1: tell me more. And then we started to chat every
Speaker 1: day because he didn't have a job and I hated
Speaker 1: my job. So that really like that help because it
Speaker 1: was so weird friends again, I was I never I
Speaker 1: thought he was cute, but I was like, oh god,
Speaker 1: I could crush him with a thigh. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wasn't going through. I wasn't going to do it,
Speaker 1: you know. And then it had been like six months
Speaker 1: as I had known a man's touch, it was one
Speaker 1: of those and I was like, you know what, I
Speaker 1: could make out with Andy. I was like but but
Speaker 1: but if you do. I knew he was a nice boy,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? So I knew he's
Speaker 1: a kind of guy. Where was like, Okay, not only
Speaker 1: are we kind of in the same scene, but he
Speaker 1: doesn't strike me as someone who would just peace, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it was gonna be an easy, great guy.
Speaker 1: He was a nice, sweet nice yeah, and so then
Speaker 1: but I was like, okay, but he is not. He's
Speaker 1: a very good option. Right now. I know he would
Speaker 1: be a tender lover just based on his personnelity, his
Speaker 1: caringness that he's exagt exactly and like, it's such awkward
Speaker 1: because sometimes it's those Awkwards can be very tender, you know,
Speaker 1: because they don't know what he can. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, those Awkwards can be tender. It sounds crazy,
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of sense. Do you require a
Speaker 1: tender lover? Though? Would like do you ever like to
Speaker 1: get like roughed up a little? Or well? It's interesting
Speaker 1: I think that in the beginning, I do like a
Speaker 1: tender because let me tell you what he's gonna be
Speaker 1: in the sexuality. I didn't really I didn't have boyfriends
Speaker 1: or like get with guys until college. So in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways, Like the tenderness almost makes me feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is nice as I bet what it was like
Speaker 1: in high school or something like people were like, what
Speaker 1: are we doing? You know what I mean? Like that
Speaker 1: in the first time, she's like, kind of cute. It's
Speaker 1: a cute little throwback. Yeah, you know. But then once
Speaker 1: you've had tenderness, you know, it's like, all right, let's
Speaker 1: shake it up. Goddamnit. But it can't be it can't
Speaker 1: be too rough, you know, a delicate flower. Yeah we heard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what kind of so do you have? Is there one
Speaker 1: type of sex that you prefer? Then it's tender over
Speaker 1: that or d every once in a while, are you like?
Speaker 1: You know what, I gotta tell you my greatest shame. Okay,
Speaker 1: I like no libido anymore. And when I do have sex,
Speaker 1: I laid my ass right now. And I don't know
Speaker 1: what happened to me. I became a wife and a
Speaker 1: fucking sitcom. Well you know what I mean. I'm tired,
Speaker 1: but like you might actually be tired, but I'm busy,
Speaker 1: I know. But still I was like, I would have
Speaker 1: never thought that would have been made though. I think
Speaker 1: it's so interesting to me how women a lot of
Speaker 1: times will shame themselves for not having a living I
Speaker 1: did the same fucking thing. I I shame. I started
Speaker 1: like getting down on myself and feeling like a bad
Speaker 1: girlfriend because I wasn't. He was always like, you like,
Speaker 1: I mean my stomach and I just didn't. But when
Speaker 1: I am stressed out, I really don't want to fuck.
Speaker 1: And and my partner, when he's stressed, he goes to
Speaker 1: sex and it's just opposite coping mechanisms. So I think
Speaker 1: that had a lot to do with it, but it's
Speaker 1: not necessarily Do you talk to him about it? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he knows it's my greatest shame. I'm always like,
Speaker 1: and then but what does he say, Well, he just
Speaker 1: laughs and he's like, well, they'll be time for sex.
Speaker 1: You're like, it's very sweet. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you got to schedule this because like I'm lazy,
Speaker 1: that's what it because I could be at home and
Speaker 1: it'll be more like if it's just like I never
Speaker 1: have worked to do it right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: And then like the way you have to kind of
Speaker 1: turn off your brain and kind of go into sex
Speaker 1: brain totally here and you have to work up to
Speaker 1: it too. I feel like I used to be able
Speaker 1: to just like have sex like any time anywhere, but
Speaker 1: now no, not like that. I don't. I can sleep
Speaker 1: any time where. Yeah, sex, yeah, sometimes you need. Like
Speaker 1: one time I voiced my concerns about that to Stephen too,
Speaker 1: and he was like, you know what it says, you're busy.
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, I know, I just feel I just
Speaker 1: feel bad. And then um, the same thing with I
Speaker 1: can't just jump in right into sex anymore. I need
Speaker 1: four play. And then I remember a couple of days
Speaker 1: after we had the conversation, he put on porn because
Speaker 1: I love watching porn with him specifically, I really like it.
Speaker 1: So we put it on for like thirty minutes and
Speaker 1: it was we didn't touch each other and it was
Speaker 1: thirty minutes of silent touchless for play, but it was
Speaker 1: so hot. It worked. And then and then he started
Speaker 1: touching me and I was like whoa. And then that
Speaker 1: was I was like, Okay, maybe that's what we need
Speaker 1: to incorporate. Now. I think I need to just treat
Speaker 1: it like going to the gym. I gotta schedule it
Speaker 1: and no matter what happens, you gotta keep that schedule
Speaker 1: until it feels regularly right, because it's never I never
Speaker 1: regret it after when I when I go over the
Speaker 1: lazy hump and I'm like, yeah, I guess, and we
Speaker 1: do it. I'm always happy, right, I'm like, I like you.
Speaker 1: But for me, I think I know I've heard a
Speaker 1: lot of other women talk about this, Like for me,
Speaker 1: if I go without sex long enough, I stopped craving it,
Speaker 1: it's like some kind of like you gets yeah, and
Speaker 1: then but then once I have it again, then I
Speaker 1: want it consistently until I go another long period without it. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So it's like awakening a beast. Yeah, exact vagina goes
Speaker 1: into hibernation yeah, and then dormant and then yeah, you
Speaker 1: plug it up with some pine cones. I think that's
Speaker 1: what bears thee and they plug. I think they plug
Speaker 1: up their butts and stuff with pine cones. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: I don't know they actually put the pine cones and
Speaker 1: they eat so, but basically they create a plug so
Speaker 1: that you know, when they're hibernating, like they don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about these things. I like Nature show. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: that's so interesting. So what was what was your relationship
Speaker 1: to sex when you were in high school because you
Speaker 1: weren't really dating a lot of people. So was there No,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. It was that intentional. I went
Speaker 1: to a white school. Nobody was trying to fund me
Speaker 1: really like intentional or like it just kind of happened.
Speaker 1: And then I went to a white college, but it
Speaker 1: was hippie. So then board trying about me, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like it's like a process. It's like
Speaker 1: Upper east Side versus New England. Where did you grow up?
Speaker 1: Though I grew up in Harlem, but I went to
Speaker 1: probably school the Upper east Side. Okay, Oh so you
Speaker 1: are a city born and race Okay, great, yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: and so like you know, and I was like I
Speaker 1: wasn't skinny. I was pretty much the same height I
Speaker 1: am now from the age of eleven, Like it wasn't
Speaker 1: you know. And I was really delicate, like I wasn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't kind of get funny or have that sense
Speaker 1: of oh I can make people laugh until maybe high school.
Speaker 1: I got to the school. I was like shot. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, everyone's different. Everyone's so rich,
Speaker 1: no one eats, you know. I was like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: was so not like yeah, living in Harlem and then
Speaker 1: going to school in the Upper East Side. Were from
Speaker 1: pre gentrified Harlem, so Harlem wasn't cute back then. It
Speaker 1: was like a stark. My friends and I we'll be
Speaker 1: when we take the bus because one of the girl
Speaker 1: who lived uptown black girl, and we always said we
Speaker 1: were taking the bus home. You always hovered around a
Speaker 1: white person if there was no seats, because you knew
Speaker 1: to at nineties six Street they get off the US.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's in the past. Was the kind of
Speaker 1: now it's anyone's scars. Yeah, now now that white girl's
Speaker 1: gonna keep sitting until the bronx, Now, Corina, it is true. Well,
Speaker 1: I also I also hover around other white people, and
Speaker 1: then I get annoyed when they don't get off and
Speaker 1: and then but then I'm like, well, you're still here
Speaker 1: exactly playing a game of chicken with each other. What
Speaker 1: are your thoughts on gentrification, because I've thought, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I always wondered, like, ah, ship, that's I
Speaker 1: feel this seems shitty that it's happening, But I don't know.
Speaker 1: It is the worst. Like I got super racist when
Speaker 1: Jubu and I were trying to find an apartment together.
Speaker 1: So like because he was in Grain Point depths of
Speaker 1: Brooklyn and I was in Harlem. So when we finally
Speaker 1: moved in together, I was like, nah, you ain't making
Speaker 1: me leave Harlem. You coming up here. Yeah. So we
Speaker 1: started to look and we couldn't afford anything. But because
Speaker 1: I knew those neighborhoods, I knew what that neighbor who was,
Speaker 1: you know, like going to buildings and I could see
Speaker 1: where they cut the apartment in half, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like and you're charging what And I'd be
Speaker 1: like this, goddamn god, damn its soul and part of
Speaker 1: us looking. But then the thing is like, and I
Speaker 1: say this sometime on stage, I'm like, you know, black
Speaker 1: people need brunch to yeah, right, So like it's like
Speaker 1: it's annoying. It's fun that it took a white person
Speaker 1: to bring me hollandaise, but that expeted it. Now yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: getting that Belgian waffle. So that's like annoying. Rate because
Speaker 1: growing up, if we wanted to do anything kind of
Speaker 1: like that, go to the movies, any of that, I
Speaker 1: would just goes Upper West Side, you know. Um, so
Speaker 1: of course it's a big deal. We got the movie
Speaker 1: there on. Yes, But like early days, I will tell
Speaker 1: you this truth about that movie Theater when it first
Speaker 1: came out, before the previews Magic Johnson, there would be
Speaker 1: like a p s A. When Magic Johnson told people
Speaker 1: how to behave in the movie Theater, like a three
Speaker 1: minutes where it was like no hats, no colors. If
Speaker 1: you got beef leaving in the streets, they did not
Speaker 1: like the black people would behave oh my god. And
Speaker 1: it was like a good like three minute thing like
Speaker 1: we're here to laughing, crying and stuff our faces with
Speaker 1: pop coword. And then like after a few years they
Speaker 1: were like, I think they get it. It was like
Speaker 1: legit like every time you would go Magic Johnson ever
Speaker 1: like make a response to that, I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's from his theater, right. He was
Speaker 1: just like I need you guys to keep it together,
Speaker 1: don't embarrass me. And then and then one felt it
Speaker 1: was odd. I feel like you must be at was
Speaker 1: like that's gotta be on you. It's gotta be damn
Speaker 1: you know. But it was like I was like, does
Speaker 1: anyone remember when they didn't think we knew how to
Speaker 1: sit down? For Jesus kill um? Do you ever get
Speaker 1: a ship for dating a white guy, Jew guy, Jewish
Speaker 1: guy juboo. But now that's the thing that's now it's
Speaker 1: jus ain't white noma. Oh, I see, I never know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Trump is here, not ju ju jus.
Speaker 1: Now Jews are oppressed. Now I ain't ready for that ship.
Speaker 1: That was That was your part of the relationship. Like
Speaker 1: I got the oppressed part. You do something else. Thank you,
Speaker 1: dry dishes. I'll be impressed you dry the dishes. But
Speaker 1: um no, I would like we don't really again because
Speaker 1: right hard them has changed. But there have been times
Speaker 1: in the past when I was like white dudes. In
Speaker 1: my theory on that though, I found a way to
Speaker 1: be okay with it because black men only have problems
Speaker 1: with me walking with a white dude when I look good.
Speaker 1: I'm taking that's damn fact. Because when I look regular,
Speaker 1: they're like tak her, you know what I mean. When
Speaker 1: I put on a little makeup and I got a
Speaker 1: little something working, suddenly I'm a white boy exactly something.
Speaker 1: I'm a disprinted the race. So now I'm all like's angry.
Speaker 1: That means I'm really working. The anger is actually like
Speaker 1: a compliment. Really got a friend with a cope. Yeah,
Speaker 1: got to find this over. Have you dated both black
Speaker 1: men and white men or exclusively white men or no
Speaker 1: black guys too. But it's just based on you know,
Speaker 1: because obviously I thought about it the circles I run in, Yeah,
Speaker 1: doing improv con say, if you're doing a lot of
Speaker 1: uc B s white and then like being um, you
Speaker 1: know in college as a film major, like I wasn't
Speaker 1: doing the things you know? Yeah, um, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: it wasn't purposeful, do you know what I mean? Like,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like I wasn't. I wasn't. Yeah, it wasn't like,
Speaker 1: oh I only want to date what It's just because yeah,
Speaker 1: most people are going to meet if you're not on
Speaker 1: Tinder or something like that, you're gonna meet people doing
Speaker 1: the things that you do. Yeah, that's how people meet
Speaker 1: usually old school, old school. How did you learn? How
Speaker 1: did you learn about sex? Did the Upper east Side
Speaker 1: white private school? Like what then? Did they like I
Speaker 1: worked about health class and stuff? Oh yeah, there was
Speaker 1: definitely a health class before that though. I went to
Speaker 1: a Catholic school until fifth grade and just that last
Speaker 1: year they didn't acknowledge that we had a little workbook
Speaker 1: that told us. And I think it's because we were
Speaker 1: brown news and they were like, please don't start sucking,
Speaker 1: because did you think, because you think like Catholic school,
Speaker 1: they wouldn't. But this day they taught you how the
Speaker 1: body parts worked. It wasn't they didn't. I mean, and
Speaker 1: again it could have been because we were ten maybe,
Speaker 1: but we didn't talk about condoms. But they were like,
Speaker 1: this is the body. You know you will get pregnant
Speaker 1: from sex, like learn how to label the parts. But
Speaker 1: it wasn't like a specific did it go over intercourse
Speaker 1: like actual insertion because a lot of those classes skipped
Speaker 1: that part and I didn't know about that until later.
Speaker 1: I don't wait, where did you go to school. I
Speaker 1: went to school in Virginia and health class public school. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so they got a teacher or something. They taught us something,
Speaker 1: but they didn't teach insertion. They taught us the body parts,
Speaker 1: labeled it sperm and the egg. I didn't still didn't
Speaker 1: know how the sperm got to the egg. I genuinely
Speaker 1: didn't know. It is very clear. I learned it from
Speaker 1: a book too. I learned it from the all the
Speaker 1: sky that sex was like more than one thrust. I
Speaker 1: learned all the anatomical names, but that didn't help me
Speaker 1: about Yeah. Yeah, so they gave me information, but they
Speaker 1: just didn't give me enough to connect the dots you
Speaker 1: needed to connect because it's a lot of scare tactics.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like the Catholic school use a lot
Speaker 1: of scare tactics like don't do this, you're gonna get pregnant.
Speaker 1: I really don't remember because I was so little, but
Speaker 1: they probably. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if they
Speaker 1: were like shut it down, because the whole idea of
Speaker 1: their whole thing I think was like God loves you,
Speaker 1: He wants you to be pure, be God's vessel, you know,
Speaker 1: so you're kind of like, okay, pure vessel, Naomi God.
Speaker 1: Were you into the God the religion for a while now,
Speaker 1: I always not really like I would pray, but I
Speaker 1: would pray to very cover my basis kind of way
Speaker 1: right like just in case he's a thing. Sorry I
Speaker 1: did that thing where I would just be like, I'm
Speaker 1: like I want everyone to be happy. Cool, Yeah, okay, great,
Speaker 1: So it's like on the record that I asked for,
Speaker 1: But I don't think I was like I am taking
Speaker 1: care of you know what I mean, right, which I
Speaker 1: think a lot of when you're actually religious, you believe
Speaker 1: that you're going to be fine and well. Catholicism specifically
Speaker 1: is when we hear a lot from people that they
Speaker 1: really sucked him up with sex, like the guilt and religion,
Speaker 1: and generally I think sucked up a lot of people.
Speaker 1: But then I've been learning a lot about like there's
Speaker 1: Catholic groups that are Catholics for pro choice and I'm like, oh, word,
Speaker 1: that's cool and exciting and progressive. But um, yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, did your parents talk to
Speaker 1: you about sex? Oh? Yeah, we talked about it, But again,
Speaker 1: I think it was never so intense because I was
Speaker 1: pretty nerdy. There was no risk. They're like, no one's
Speaker 1: gonna suck her, like basically like you're not active, but
Speaker 1: just in case, Um, you know your parents nerdy too
Speaker 1: or no, but they're like not nerdy, but like they're
Speaker 1: very They're both they were both lawyers and very kind
Speaker 1: of just you know, buy the book kind of people.
Speaker 1: You know, my mom probably been nash, you might have
Speaker 1: a drink, you know what I mean. Like, so there
Speaker 1: weren't it wasn't a and so it was I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I know you might having sex a Dalton, so whatever
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You should just know I don't have sex.
Speaker 1: What was it like when you first lest her virginity?
Speaker 1: It was in college sophomore paint is the scene? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, Okay, we're gonna set the scene. Okay. I
Speaker 1: had just come home with my gentleman caller. His he
Speaker 1: was he played lacrosse. He was very like buff but
Speaker 1: then also a French and psych major layers layers. Uh.
Speaker 1: He was also a virgin. Oh that's fine. It was like,
Speaker 1: I've always want to have sex with the virgin. I
Speaker 1: never will. I don't know. I don't think I have either. Oh,
Speaker 1: thank you. I was just lost in thought. But it
Speaker 1: was um and I come from. I was assistant directing
Speaker 1: a children's theater project. Uh. And he can picked me
Speaker 1: up and we like went home and I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it was kind of like we had talked about
Speaker 1: it a little bit and then I was like, all right,
Speaker 1: let's do this. It was just I was like, it's
Speaker 1: never gonna be like a better person and sitting and
Speaker 1: old enough. Uh. Someone described it to me like this
Speaker 1: right before and I, and it was so vivid, so real.
Speaker 1: She's like, you know, it's gonna hurt, Like it's kind
Speaker 1: of like taking a ship backwards out of the wrong hole. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not incorrect. I was like it was what and
Speaker 1: yet I like, who's torny? It was so it was
Speaker 1: so painful. Yeah no, but I didn't either, And I'm like,
Speaker 1: what the funk? I didn't either? Yeah, but did not
Speaker 1: break was But then I was like I hadn't. I
Speaker 1: had never had a concept of what that pain was gonna.
Speaker 1: He had nothing to compare it to the backwards ship
Speaker 1: metaphor exactly. And then I was like this doorst easy.
Speaker 1: He's like, are those happy tears? I'm like, like, because
Speaker 1: I didn't want to upset him, like in terms of like,
Speaker 1: I was like like I want to be right, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I didn't want him to be
Speaker 1: like I was like no, no. And I also was
Speaker 1: one of those things. You know, it was physical pain,
Speaker 1: not emotional, right, but it was also the same still
Speaker 1: bad kind of but no, but it was that idea.
Speaker 1: I was like, I know that if this continues, it
Speaker 1: will stop hurting. Yeah, Like it was it was like okay,
Speaker 1: just like Okay, keep at it. We're just gonna power.
Speaker 1: I still feel that sometimes sometimes when it hurts, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know what, I just can't keep threshing and then
Speaker 1: the pain don't go away. That's okay. Well, it's like
Speaker 1: the first time having sex is more it's more like
Speaker 1: just logistics. There's not like a lot of right. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I had sex with someone who I love very deeply,
Speaker 1: but it was just a lot of like trying to
Speaker 1: get it fully in and sliding and you know, not
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, it wasn't a lot of Yeah, there
Speaker 1: was no yum sounds like that. Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: was a twin bed mine. I'm pretty sure moms twin
Speaker 1: bet too. There's no room, there's no real game change
Speaker 1: or once you get that double going, you know, you're like,
Speaker 1: this is what love making can be. Full bed. Wow.
Speaker 1: Have you ever had sex in like a weird place? Oh? God,
Speaker 1: because it's so much better in a bed. I used
Speaker 1: to force myself to be adventurous and like, let's just
Speaker 1: do it in a bed. That's what they're for. I mean,
Speaker 1: there was like one random dalliance in Australia the back
Speaker 1: of a surf camp bus. Oh, my god. I know,
Speaker 1: my best work, my most of my most wacky. But
Speaker 1: that was like I lived there from were you studying abroad? No? No,
Speaker 1: you at surf camp? Oh my god, I should have
Speaker 1: got a surf camp. No, I'd like, so, you know,
Speaker 1: men used to run my life. Aren't too glad to
Speaker 1: be off these streets because it was really I started
Speaker 1: dating this one dude and I really liked him, and
Speaker 1: then he didn't want to be in a relationship. And
Speaker 1: I had heard about this visa, just like working holiday visa,
Speaker 1: and I like, I met this Australian dude when he
Speaker 1: was here in New York and like, they're very down
Speaker 1: with the brown in Australia. You know, they don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of us, and you know, had my braid,
Speaker 1: so it's extra nubiants. So they were really about that life.
Speaker 1: And I gotta go here or I'll be a queen. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I was like, we'll do that. And there was
Speaker 1: like the vis you went to Australia to be a queen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's amazing. I was like, this will be the place,
Speaker 1: this will be way it all. Men will just bow
Speaker 1: down as you walk through the street. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie to either were throwing dicks. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm walking down streaming like, oh god, you dicks at me. However,
Speaker 1: touch racist really not really bright. Not all Australians, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I know some listeners don't give a whole lot
Speaker 1: of attitude. But the ones I found, I think, And
Speaker 1: sometimes when you meet people, it's like, oh, the people
Speaker 1: you met who were like cosmopolitan and traveling were different
Speaker 1: than the ones when you actually go there, different than
Speaker 1: the ones in surf camp and stuff. How so how
Speaker 1: are they racist in a different way than Americans can
Speaker 1: be racist? Oh yeah, I think, because I think the
Speaker 1: whole thing is that, Like again, there's like at that
Speaker 1: time too, because I got there to right around when
Speaker 1: like what Obama was elected, So I got there a
Speaker 1: couple of months before that first time, oh nine, I
Speaker 1: was there, and so it was just in the context
Speaker 1: of what it is to be in a place where
Speaker 1: you are obviously not from there. And then as a result,
Speaker 1: anybody's like people feel like entitled to you, like people
Speaker 1: coming up to me and touching musk, but in the
Speaker 1: middle store, not like you like sitting with a friend
Speaker 1: and somebody's like, hey can I It's like legitistrate up, stranger,
Speaker 1: I'm coming at you from New York City. It's like
Speaker 1: I'm three fall. We don't touch me, right, because they
Speaker 1: had never seen black people. Remember, Yeah, my friend Ashley's
Speaker 1: boyfriend boyfriend from a long time ago, she's this like
Speaker 1: six ft one tall blonde mermaid hair check went to
Speaker 1: um China because her boyfriend was teaching there, and she
Speaker 1: said people would stop her to take pictures of her
Speaker 1: in the airport, like she was fucking like moss in
Speaker 1: Time Square. Yeah yeah, and she was like what the fuck?
Speaker 1: And so but I wouldn't think Australia would be like that,
Speaker 1: but it is that same way. And then like the
Speaker 1: way they would because they are like it is it
Speaker 1: is warm and friendly, but not necessarily knowing the line
Speaker 1: between that, because then what would happen if I would bristle?
Speaker 1: It would be like you American so PC, And I
Speaker 1: was like no, no, no, no, no no, no, I don't
Speaker 1: make this about me. Yeah it is in PC. This
Speaker 1: is you don't know me. Yeah, don't petting zoo. You're
Speaker 1: a human being. And that I think that's where I
Speaker 1: think I would call it. That's the racist part. It's
Speaker 1: not to be inquisitive. It is too. It is to
Speaker 1: not recognize that to touch a stranger without asking, is
Speaker 1: it probably? Yeah, that's not a humane thing to do
Speaker 1: to a fellow human exactly. Like one time though, we
Speaker 1: were like at this My favorite moment though that I
Speaker 1: was like all aloud. I was We're at the zoo
Speaker 1: in Sydney and this woman turns and she's got like
Speaker 1: a little daughter with her, five or six, and she's like,
Speaker 1: excuse me, she wants to ask you a question. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, give me this white child. You've got to
Speaker 1: get them young, you know you do, because they learned
Speaker 1: this ship. I'm her first black person. I better be
Speaker 1: you know, like not wrong though, right. So I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, what is it, sweetheart? She's like, gave
Speaker 1: her cookie. I know, she goes to you to her
Speaker 1: own hair, And I was like, no, baby girl, I'm
Speaker 1: paid in Africa. Guess there are Africans here in Sydney?
Speaker 1: Do you know about them? And like I and it's
Speaker 1: like we're five or six. You're genuinely curious and it's
Speaker 1: and you don't know exactly. Yeah. I can't ask dumb
Speaker 1: questions all the time, or questions that are like not appropriate,
Speaker 1: like why don't you have a hand why? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: there was a factory. I had a kid asked me
Speaker 1: why my nose was weird? And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: well I don't know. I didn't know it was. I
Speaker 1: wasn't even mad. I was like, okay, so I God
Speaker 1: made it, honey. Kids are the worst? Do you want
Speaker 1: to have kids? Do you want kids? No? No, non
Speaker 1: Ubia doesn't want kids either. No, we're upen to adopting
Speaker 1: with them. You know, but it was never very early on,
Speaker 1: like I don't want kids. But then, um, you know,
Speaker 1: people always like who's gonna take care of you when
Speaker 1: you get old? But that's not was that why? People
Speaker 1: that exactly that you're breeding a caretaker? And also one
Speaker 1: what if your kid is an asshole? Yeah, your kid
Speaker 1: might be a huge piece of ship, right or like
Speaker 1: what if your kids straight up? Just as like I
Speaker 1: don't want to do this for you right let alone
Speaker 1: you're not liking them? Bad plan? Your kid can also
Speaker 1: die before you and yeah, and then that's just heart
Speaker 1: heartache and no caretaker after that. I think it's just
Speaker 1: the better plan is to just save all that money
Speaker 1: that you would have spent on a kid and then
Speaker 1: put it away and then just hire some much like
Speaker 1: a soap caretaker. I'm gonna be rich enough to make
Speaker 1: someone treat me like family. That's it. You gotta get
Speaker 1: you gotta get rich enough so they treat you as
Speaker 1: though you were their parents. Yeah. See, that's a great plan.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of like a fail proof plan. I'm
Speaker 1: hoping that's funny that the plan really is what I want?
Speaker 1: What are your when you got it? How long ago
Speaker 1: did you get engaged? Three years? Three years ago? And
Speaker 1: what is your are you want to have like a wedding.
Speaker 1: I'm so interested in the idea of a wedding because
Speaker 1: some of my girlfriends are like, I'm gonna do it
Speaker 1: out and it confuses me. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: Confused me. What are your thoughts? Well as someone who
Speaker 1: has been engaged three years, I am also confused. I
Speaker 1: it's interesting because I it was when I thought about
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, like being young, it wasn't a wedding.
Speaker 1: It was about the person, right, Like I was excited
Speaker 1: to like have the idea of a mate was more
Speaker 1: important to me than the wedding part. But you know,
Speaker 1: there's several times where Jubu was like, well, let's go
Speaker 1: to city Hall. And then I realized I'm basic. I
Speaker 1: was like, right, I have to have a wedding, and
Speaker 1: I it's so I want to. I know, I want
Speaker 1: to have the event. I want to have everybody together,
Speaker 1: you know. I want to put on a cute low
Speaker 1: dress and I want to stand up when I walk
Speaker 1: in the room, very tender. Right, But I don't want
Speaker 1: But I don't really care about the details of it,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? And I don't believe
Speaker 1: you should have to spend twenty or thirty dollars on it.
Speaker 1: That's you know, how can I get everyone together, you know,
Speaker 1: not cutting off people who you know I know and
Speaker 1: like have a little hot meal or something. I know totally.
Speaker 1: It's about like the idea of all the people you
Speaker 1: love in one room, celebrating your love with your husband.
Speaker 1: Like that's what. That sounds great, It sounds lovely. But
Speaker 1: you know what, I know it is possible. Though. I
Speaker 1: threw a twenty fifth birthday party for myself that was
Speaker 1: like a wedding to myself and and and it was
Speaker 1: it was good because it was it was just narcissism.
Speaker 1: But then it turned into this thing. That really taught
Speaker 1: me like, oh, I understand weddings now, because it felt
Speaker 1: really nice to have everyone I liked there and then
Speaker 1: everyone said great things about me, and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, I love this and we all ate and
Speaker 1: I did it for um, I mean, it was only friends,
Speaker 1: because you know, I would cut most of my family
Speaker 1: out if I had The show is also my I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, fifty maybe the yeah, and what did
Speaker 1: you get food? Talking chuck and cheese, which no, I did.
Speaker 1: I like catered it with my my friends, and I
Speaker 1: did it from Trader Joe's. We did our own cat.
Speaker 1: We just got tons of that four dollar wine and
Speaker 1: cut up crackers and made cakes and like we did
Speaker 1: it all. I like that. I mean, like, I think
Speaker 1: that's that's a difficulty because I've been to a couple
Speaker 1: of cool weddings, but I've noticed for the cooler weddings
Speaker 1: there were a lot of older people there. Because my
Speaker 1: whole thing is, you know, now, I'm about to be
Speaker 1: a damn Jewish wife, and I'm marrying into a family
Speaker 1: that has certain expectations for a wedding, and I think
Speaker 1: if all my I we just did with our friends
Speaker 1: it could be more low key, it could be chilled.
Speaker 1: People are that hang right? Yeah, Jewish weddings have so
Speaker 1: many traditions to them. They're chairs and ships. I mean
Speaker 1: that part again, like, let me see the pageantry. Don't
Speaker 1: drop me. That's my nightmare. I was at my wedding
Speaker 1: got dropped for being too heavy. At all my Jewish events,
Speaker 1: I've never seen anyone get dropped. And I've seen it.
Speaker 1: Have you saw something? Was it was it the was
Speaker 1: it the wife? It wasn't because she was heavy, It's
Speaker 1: because whoever they didn't have it right you. I like,
Speaker 1: and you're you're you're bouncing the chair up into the
Speaker 1: air with the person on it that the weight could
Speaker 1: shift exactly. And I was like, I was like, my nightmare,
Speaker 1: my night Can you imagine you imagine dropped on your day?
Speaker 1: I would literally I would rise up. It would be
Speaker 1: carry at the Promso so w me back up. You
Speaker 1: could get more something a little bit more trustworthy than
Speaker 1: a regular chair, something that would catch you. Maybe, so
Speaker 1: you're saying from the yeah, something, because I feel like
Speaker 1: a chair is easy to slide off. Yeah, really set
Speaker 1: it up. I have to make some adjustments culture. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you want to incorporate that as part of your wedding,
Speaker 1: like the Jewish traditions. Yeah, it's so funny because uh,
Speaker 1: you know the fiancee isn't religious. But I was like,
Speaker 1: we said, we're like, well can we I was like,
Speaker 1: can we mix it? And can we just like jump
Speaker 1: the broom onto a glass? You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like combine them both just from It's great. That would
Speaker 1: be fun um, but it doesn't have to be like
Speaker 1: super religious. But I would totally do it. You know,
Speaker 1: you a Jewish wife, how fun? And what is his
Speaker 1: what is your family and his family think of you
Speaker 1: guys getting married? If anything, his parents are really into it, Okay,
Speaker 1: I know they're like really nice. I was very surprised
Speaker 1: and I was like, are they like just two into it?
Speaker 1: Like they were trying to get a black person in
Speaker 1: the family like you see him to enthuse as questions. No,
Speaker 1: they behave like they behaved like I'm doing doing him
Speaker 1: a favorite, But they throw so much shade to their
Speaker 1: own songs. It's like you're so rude and times and um,
Speaker 1: whereas my mom doesn't mean she barely likes me, so like,
Speaker 1: are we really surprised that she would be kind of
Speaker 1: lukewarm really wedding. Even though she's so good at planning
Speaker 1: stuff and parties and whatnot. I thought she was really
Speaker 1: going to swoop in and make this happen. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: she's like, I got time for that. She's always had
Speaker 1: that attitude towards you, like with stuff with no Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: what do you say she barely likes you? Is that
Speaker 1: like a like ll or a little glib? But I
Speaker 1: do think that, Um, she's critical by nature and I
Speaker 1: and I guarantee you half the time she wouldn't even
Speaker 1: see it, you know, because when I do call her,
Speaker 1: she's like what I'm just saying? Yeah, like she legit
Speaker 1: said to me at thanks to you, She's like, they'll
Speaker 1: be I don't mean anything, but like I feel like
Speaker 1: maybe you sleep too much and don't get enough done.
Speaker 1: And that was like a straight up statement. But when
Speaker 1: special and you've written for that, get to it. I
Speaker 1: am not doing enough those other days. Wow, let's see
Speaker 1: you're very accomplished comedians. And how does she know how
Speaker 1: much you're sleeping anyway? Oh? Yeah. The situation is that
Speaker 1: we do kind of live on her property. She lives
Speaker 1: in Jersey, but she comes by like yeah, like I
Speaker 1: call her like my demeaning uricle, you know, just coming
Speaker 1: on and ounce and it's like did you do that?
Speaker 1: And you're like, now would you? And you can't say
Speaker 1: ship because it's her thing, it's her property. I mean,
Speaker 1: we pay rent, but we definitely pay but a lower rent.
Speaker 1: It started when I got laid off so andy, I
Speaker 1: had our own place for like a year, and then
Speaker 1: I got laid off and I was like, we gotta
Speaker 1: do it, we gotta go back. I can't. We can't
Speaker 1: afford the place anymore. And you know the nature of
Speaker 1: the work we do, it's like, oh, you work in
Speaker 1: a couple of months and you're not working, and so
Speaker 1: it has been helpful to know, Okay, worst comes to worst,
Speaker 1: we're not on the street absolutely, you know, Like that's
Speaker 1: always like it's but then at the same time, it's like,
Speaker 1: how do you kind of draw a line that says
Speaker 1: I'm an adult, don't tell me what I'm doing wrong
Speaker 1: all the time. Have you ever said that? I try,
Speaker 1: but it's it's hard to really tonguetized me too. I
Speaker 1: get like a petulant child around her, like not a job.
Speaker 1: Teenager was back to that because it's not just because
Speaker 1: as I ever a teenager. You know, like when your teenager,
Speaker 1: you're like, let me alone, and like you you kind
Speaker 1: of keep secrets. Yeah, so your parent doesn't know, and
Speaker 1: that's how I am. They're not even big things, but
Speaker 1: I just tend to keep her at a distance because
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear. We don't want criticism for that.
Speaker 1: I don't want feedback on the things I'm doing and
Speaker 1: I know I'm gonna get it, so I'm just not
Speaker 1: gonna tell you. So it's cool, it's fine. You have
Speaker 1: any siblings, and that's extra attention to get all of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get all the she and where's your dad these days? Who? Girl?
Speaker 1: Next question? Not only because I live in a world
Speaker 1: where it's like sometimes it's like do you listen to podcasts?
Speaker 1: Do you listen to guys that keep mind? I asked,
Speaker 1: because one time I tweeted something about him but like
Speaker 1: not personal. Okay, I'll tell you what it Okay, So
Speaker 1: I have not talked to my father at that time.
Speaker 1: I hadn't talked to him in some years. It was
Speaker 1: like all very contentions. I get an email it's just
Speaker 1: from him, and I go, I'm like andy, I'm getting
Speaker 1: hard puplications the parent email, I was like, I was
Speaker 1: my dad's emailing me. I'm not ready. I needed to
Speaker 1: be with me sitting next to me while I open it.
Speaker 1: So finally we are get in a good place to
Speaker 1: open this. Yeah, it was spam. No. Now, as comedians
Speaker 1: also keep in minding my dad as Nigerian, So when
Speaker 1: I get spam from a Nigerian absentee father, I have
Speaker 1: to tweet about it. It's yeah. I just thought, oh
Speaker 1: my god, this Nigerian set me spam. I can't. Are
Speaker 1: you a prince? Do you want to send your US right? Like?
Speaker 1: I was so yeah, So I like tweeted it and
Speaker 1: then I don't know, like a week or two later,
Speaker 1: I get an email from another family member on his
Speaker 1: side and it's like, Naomi, everyone's very upset. This is
Speaker 1: very bad. Now man, I haven't spoken to him like
Speaker 1: three or four years. I don't think his ass was
Speaker 1: following me on Twitter. Twitter. You know, you can just
Speaker 1: look up somebody. Yeah that's true. And I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: and So's like and I'll sell that because like we've
Speaker 1: all lived in now with that person. But I'm like,
Speaker 1: you just never I was like oh yeah, and then
Speaker 1: that would make me feel so out of control because
Speaker 1: it's like you don't know, like you weren't there, you
Speaker 1: didn't know my expectations of seeing the email in the
Speaker 1: first place and then being met, Oh oh, that's that's
Speaker 1: a lighthearted moment in a situation I expected to be
Speaker 1: not and so like they don't get it. And it's
Speaker 1: also like I wasn't actually trying. I wasn't trying to
Speaker 1: try to start get him because I never would have
Speaker 1: imagined that he would see it was easing your own
Speaker 1: pain with with a humor. Yeah. And also it's weird
Speaker 1: to think that he was like checking up on you
Speaker 1: but not contexting. That was the other thing too. It
Speaker 1: was like I'd be pissed. Yeah, yeah, you know. I
Speaker 1: had to do a nice long with therapy SESSH, write
Speaker 1: a letter, get over, really get centered, and then hit
Speaker 1: center back to him. Yeah, ended up writing like wait
Speaker 1: later because I got stop so pissed, I know, and
Speaker 1: you can't speak to you can't communicate the best. And
Speaker 1: then I'm like okay, and then and then you wrote
Speaker 1: back and we kind of talked, but I realized like,
Speaker 1: and this is on me. I'm still so angry at him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I learned. I was like, I don't know, like,
Speaker 1: because of course, the question is like, well, what do
Speaker 1: you expect this person to say or do? And I
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, I just want you to literally apologize
Speaker 1: to me every single day for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: That's not really possible but not sustainable. And so I'm
Speaker 1: kind of like, Okay, I don't know how to be
Speaker 1: chill about it, but I also can't expect you to
Speaker 1: do this thing. All right, I'll talk to you later. Yeah. Therapy.
Speaker 1: Do you actually have a therapist that you go see regularly? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And a couple of therapist you gotta do it? Fun? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: what a couple of trapies. Fun. What was the reason
Speaker 1: that you started going? Was it a bad reason or
Speaker 1: you just decided this is like upkeep for something that
Speaker 1: I want to last a long time. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: there were these little things that were huge. But I
Speaker 1: remember when we got engaged, I was like, I'm not
Speaker 1: getting married unless we try this, huh, because they were
Speaker 1: a little Because there are these little things that I
Speaker 1: just felt like could crop up, you know, it could
Speaker 1: be my own you know, I'm anxious and like thinks up.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I don't want this to be bad
Speaker 1: or because, but it's also to that we're both creative
Speaker 1: people and our careers are in different places and what
Speaker 1: it is, Okay, we're gonna go forward. Were unit, but
Speaker 1: like you're now where you want to be or sometimes
Speaker 1: I feel guilty for my success. Yeah that's important exactly,
Speaker 1: Like we gotta figure this out if we're about to
Speaker 1: make this forever, you know. So we have started it
Speaker 1: um and we found this place like lovely sliding scale.
Speaker 1: You gotta get a slide. I went to sliding Scale
Speaker 1: for a long time. And the guy we see now,
Speaker 1: the first woman she's like is really yogi ex military
Speaker 1: but like very calm, but also she ain't got time
Speaker 1: for your ship, you know what I'm saying. Like she's like,
Speaker 1: she's not mean, but she also like it's that kind
Speaker 1: of calm yoga face or it's like let's breathe. But
Speaker 1: also I'm from a work to our in country. This
Speaker 1: is been a problem, you know what I mean what
Speaker 1: we're saying, she's like, you alive, okay cold yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: But then she went and had a baby, and then
Speaker 1: and then we and then we got this new guy
Speaker 1: who's like super cool. He knows like the comedy world,
Speaker 1: and he also gets Andy's sense of humor because he's
Speaker 1: like this weirdo and also really in the comic books,
Speaker 1: but also really into philosophy. And this guy gets at all.
Speaker 1: That's wonderful. It's really they can get feedback that's even
Speaker 1: more helpful because he understands the personality time and what
Speaker 1: is the therapist suggest about the issue of one person
Speaker 1: being specifically the woman being where she wants in her career.
Speaker 1: They not there's a that can ask for friend, yeah,
Speaker 1: just asking for someone else, just wondering what the therapist
Speaker 1: set to exactly forbade him. Oh my god. He was
Speaker 1: sort of like, well, I think the idea was, you know,
Speaker 1: he's really good at kind of saying you always say
Speaker 1: sorry's always like he's like, you guys are my favorite
Speaker 1: couple because you actually want to be together. Because the
Speaker 1: very first session for both of these people, they started
Speaker 1: to go, are you guys trying to break up? You're
Speaker 1: trying to stay together? Do you have kids? Do nothing?
Speaker 1: Kind of want to know where you're at right sore Like, okay,
Speaker 1: we want to be together. Great, that's the baseline. So
Speaker 1: now kind of keeping that in mind all the time.
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, well, what is it about being
Speaker 1: like this discrepancy that's a problem for you? Right? And
Speaker 1: I know, for instance, from me, I already deal that,
Speaker 1: you know, that imposter syndrome and feeling like a frauds.
Speaker 1: Then it's so easy to then say, well, I just
Speaker 1: really isn't fair because he should have this and I shouldn't.
Speaker 1: So it's not really about him, is it. It's about
Speaker 1: right And so he's like okay, So because and then
Speaker 1: also having times was like, well, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about her having this success? Are you actually jealous? Or
Speaker 1: she making this up? And so then we'll sit in
Speaker 1: there and he'll be like he'll be like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: feel a little jealous, but it's not enough. He's like,
Speaker 1: I'm happier more than I'm jealous. And so it's like
Speaker 1: having that room and having that person kind of asked
Speaker 1: the question that I wouldn't ask because you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, because if I'm like, you're are you jealous
Speaker 1: of me? I wouldn't. Right, It's like way too and
Speaker 1: it's gonna start some ship. Yeah, But then if he
Speaker 1: does it for me, and then I can get the hands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then I'm like, And also I think to like, within couples,
Speaker 1: I think it's just like like with women being jealous
Speaker 1: with like career stuff or something. A little bit I
Speaker 1: think is fine because then it fuels you to do
Speaker 1: better in your own career. And I would imagine it
Speaker 1: would be similar for a couple, just just a little bit,
Speaker 1: not too much because then it's gonna get in the
Speaker 1: way and then you're gonna say mean ship and beat
Speaker 1: as aggressive. I don't know what all these things that
Speaker 1: could happen, but I would think that that could be
Speaker 1: good fuel for the other partner to like do good
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, no, I definitely think so. I think
Speaker 1: also what it helps. And I don't know if y'all
Speaker 1: felt this way before y'all blew up, but doesn't feel
Speaker 1: like before that kind of happens when you're trying to
Speaker 1: find your footing. I know for me, like it would
Speaker 1: just feel so far away. I was like, how so
Speaker 1: far you know you're looking at people like or you know,
Speaker 1: in the comedy community, there's a time where I would
Speaker 1: turn on TV and I would see somebody from an
Speaker 1: improv class on a commercial. Yeah, every time you're like,
Speaker 1: how how how so what you do get when you
Speaker 1: are living with somebody and you see it is like
Speaker 1: it is attainable. I'm watching this person actually go through
Speaker 1: the motions and learning what those motions are, which is
Speaker 1: super help. And you get there from hard work and
Speaker 1: just persistence, and it's that's exciting to see. But you know, well,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I did with any Schumer. Because Amy
Speaker 1: Schumer I met when she I told a bunch of times,
Speaker 1: but I love this because she auditioned for my junior
Speaker 1: year thesis film in college, I went to sp A
Speaker 1: and so I truly did get to watch Amy Schumer
Speaker 1: become this huge megastar and that's what And I didn't
Speaker 1: feel jealousy. I just was like, yes, it's possible, she
Speaker 1: did it. I fucking just watched her do it. And
Speaker 1: there was nothing, nothing magical or special that happened. I
Speaker 1: just watched her like work really hard and take all
Speaker 1: the steps and call managers offices, ourselves an email, and
Speaker 1: go to shows and not stop. And I was like, yes, this,
Speaker 1: I was like, because he does feel like something like oh,
Speaker 1: that's just how happens on TV or in movies or
Speaker 1: to people that I don't know but then when it
Speaker 1: happens to someone you do on that high of a level,
Speaker 1: you're like, holy shit, And I want to talk about
Speaker 1: real quick when time you have to go, I just
Speaker 1: want to talk real quick about So the this type
Speaker 1: of broad with broad City, um, the type of like
Speaker 1: feminism or the message that broad City has, Like broad
Speaker 1: City is one of the first shows that I've ever
Speaker 1: seen where it's not two women being funny, it's just
Speaker 1: too fucking people being hilarious. And to me, to me,
Speaker 1: they represent such a big part of like what I
Speaker 1: always thought of or wanted the feminist movement to kind
Speaker 1: of be, is just this be yourself, be supportive, help
Speaker 1: lift other women up. And as someone who works on
Speaker 1: the show, like I just wondering what your theory on
Speaker 1: feminism is or if you thought has a change throughout
Speaker 1: the years, or because like they are so refreshingly themselves
Speaker 1: and not care And to me, that's part of what
Speaker 1: feminism is. It's just being yourself and being good person,
Speaker 1: a piece of ship, you know what I mean. I mean,
Speaker 1: I agree, it's interesting because you know, I don't really
Speaker 1: get so into labels. And as someone who grew up
Speaker 1: you know, with a single mother who worked and raised me.
Speaker 1: The idea of women doing stuff and being capable. It
Speaker 1: was always I was like, okay, so you do what
Speaker 1: you gotta do, you know, um, but I think what
Speaker 1: you know? And I would say I'm sure you know,
Speaker 1: adding a lot of would say yeah, what if you
Speaker 1: ask them, they say, yes, I'm a feminist. But I
Speaker 1: don't think that that thinking is what informed that show.
Speaker 1: It is always like what do we enjoy? You know?
Speaker 1: Because that's a show. It's a love story. It's about
Speaker 1: these two six friends. It's a lot. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what you're watching, And so it always starts in this
Speaker 1: place of you know, what's going to bring us joy
Speaker 1: to do? What's gonna bring us joy to talk about?
Speaker 1: My favorite thing about broad City, My favorite moments are
Speaker 1: just the combos between the two of them. There's like,
Speaker 1: my favorite episode is season two finale when they're on St.
Speaker 1: Mark's plane just trying to get a table and it's
Speaker 1: just I'm talking, it's just conversations in and out of whatever.
Speaker 1: And I think that it is them being themselves, them
Speaker 1: being so honest. That's something too, I mean, loving each
Speaker 1: other so much. Their friendship is beautiful, truly truly the
Speaker 1: deepest love any of us could ever hope to experience. Um,
Speaker 1: but it is I think, you know, the same thing
Speaker 1: I think people respond to with y'all is just I
Speaker 1: think when you are honest, when you own who you are,
Speaker 1: the world has to kind of get on board to
Speaker 1: get out of the way. Yeah, and I think that
Speaker 1: you know that in and of itself. Then I think
Speaker 1: people are like, well, so then if you're saying get
Speaker 1: on board to get out of the way, you are strong.
Speaker 1: And then if you're a woman and you're doing it,
Speaker 1: then you're a feminist. Yeah. It's so funny because I
Speaker 1: didn't call myself a feminist before this podcast. People started
Speaker 1: calling us that and and and then I just started
Speaker 1: doing my research and looking into it and beyond what
Speaker 1: I had already known feminism to be. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: so it is so. But sometimes I I do get
Speaker 1: caught of like, you know, we should say we're feminists
Speaker 1: all the time and stuff. But that label thing does
Speaker 1: make me feel a little odd because I don't want
Speaker 1: to like put myself on this holy high grail of
Speaker 1: I don't even know, because I see, I know, abbying allona,
Speaker 1: don't do that and I love that about them, and
Speaker 1: that's why I think I'm doing what people did to us.
Speaker 1: But like that's why to me, I hold them on
Speaker 1: this feminist pedestal because they're just so little fox and
Speaker 1: so unapologetically themselves. Yeah, just being silly and having a
Speaker 1: good time. Yeah, I love it, I know, And that
Speaker 1: to me is like, but I feel like that's weird
Speaker 1: to say. I don't know that, like that to me
Speaker 1: is feminism. There's too many rules about what feminism is
Speaker 1: and what it isn't and too much in fighting, which
Speaker 1: I experienced today. That's like the problem with like I
Speaker 1: mean even now, you know, people dealing with the political stuff,
Speaker 1: and I think that can that can be what that
Speaker 1: infighting and that sense of um, it's like right now
Speaker 1: we're dealing with kind of a larger enemy, like a
Speaker 1: bigger issue right now than you know, mistakenly using the
Speaker 1: wrong pronoun, you know, and not not that you shouldn't
Speaker 1: get it right, Yeah, I just think that you know,
Speaker 1: if you accidentally not your intentions are not ill will
Speaker 1: then we got to be patient instead of like fighting
Speaker 1: about it or like firing people because they made a
Speaker 1: joke about a child that's not my good issue or
Speaker 1: the battle. There are a lot of people fighting these
Speaker 1: battles that I and I see them. And it happened
Speaker 1: to Cren earlier today, someone who called her out on
Speaker 1: Facebook for a reason that I was just honestly blew
Speaker 1: my mind that in these little tiny fights are are
Speaker 1: boggle my mind because that's what that's this, and then
Speaker 1: it makes this tumble weed of ship that's happening. And
Speaker 1: now everyone's getting angry at what's happening in this tumble weed.
Speaker 1: But the issues are over there. Yeah, so what happened.
Speaker 1: I'm like, we'll talk about it off there. I don't
Speaker 1: want to give any crediting. Yeah, publicity, Where can we
Speaker 1: find you, Naomi? And and and see you? Please, for the
Speaker 1: love of God, if you're in a city that she's performing,
Speaker 1: I go see her. Oh my God, bless your hearts. Well,
Speaker 1: you guys, you know my Comedy Central half hour. You
Speaker 1: can aren't on Comedy Central, on their app on Hulu,
Speaker 1: Um and Twitter at black dress spelled exactly the way
Speaker 1: you think it's been. Um and then yeah, holler at
Speaker 1: me on the interwebs. Guys. You know, I'll keep you
Speaker 1: up to speed on the shows. I'm tweeting about them.
Speaker 1: I'm reheaded about them. A friend, don't be right, so
Speaker 1: can be okay? Thank you so much. This has been guys.
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