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Speaker 1: So I had my birthday party, Yes you did. And
Speaker 1: I had my free um dress on. You did have
Speaker 1: your free um dress on. I brought two dresses, Jesus,
Speaker 1: just because I didn't know which one. How fifty shades
Speaker 1: darker of you? All right? And but you know how
Speaker 1: I chose which one I wore that night because one
Speaker 1: of the dresses gave Steven a raging bone. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say whichever one like that. He like, yeah, but I
Speaker 1: visibly he was wearing sweatpants laying on the couch and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, that's the dress. I mean, Steven
Speaker 1: seems to get boners a lot. You're always You're always,
Speaker 1: like I came out in my meat undies and he
Speaker 1: got a boner and then I walked out and then
Speaker 1: he got a boner. Dead ass man. What can I
Speaker 1: say this? This never happened to me in any in
Speaker 1: any situation ever. Um so yeah, So I when I
Speaker 1: it was a pretty fucking good dress. It was good
Speaker 1: because I wanted to feel sexy. I wanted to feel
Speaker 1: like I wanted to wear high heels. I wanted to
Speaker 1: wear very little clothing and then wanted my tits out
Speaker 1: and one of my butt out. Where was dress? Again?
Speaker 1: Said um b b because you were like you said,
Speaker 1: you kept saying that. Yeah, that's the story gets slutty dresses.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because I was like, I need a slutty
Speaker 1: dress and these dresses are not doing it for me.
Speaker 1: I was looking at Urban, I was looking at it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, Urban doesn't cover too much. Why we
Speaker 1: got cover all the more bohemian. Yeah, And so I
Speaker 1: had the party. Party was great, came home banged in
Speaker 1: that dress. Baby, having sex and high heels is fun.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, oh boy, it is. It's so much fun.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It was a little um well kink
Speaker 1: for the for the night. Yeah, that was fun. I
Speaker 1: was so excited to be banged in the dress and uh,
Speaker 1: I was and it was great. And then the next
Speaker 1: day was my birthday and Stephen UM got these presents
Speaker 1: out of the closet and um and I opened them
Speaker 1: and one of them was a strap on and a harness.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, I was thinking that you guys had already
Speaker 1: done that, but then I realized that you had not. Well.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons why I wanted to take Sunday
Speaker 1: to a day is because we I wanted to figure
Speaker 1: out how to fox Stephen in the ask with a
Speaker 1: strap on. Good. I'm glad. Well we had play. We
Speaker 1: had plans too, but like that was one of the
Speaker 1: things where um uh but uh but yeah, we we
Speaker 1: used the strap on and it was a good size
Speaker 1: it was. It wasn't huge, it was non intimidate. It
Speaker 1: was like a smaller penis, you know, like a smaller end.
Speaker 1: And it was weird because Stephen kept saying to me,
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't want you to look at me differently.
Speaker 1: I don't want to uh like, I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't want you to like, I don't want to feel
Speaker 1: like emasculated or whatever. I'm like, pitch women get dicks
Speaker 1: in their holes all the time, and I know it
Speaker 1: doesn't make me feel famasculated or disempowered. It makes me
Speaker 1: feel power. Like It's fine. Just because you're getting penetrated
Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're getting your humanity, your dignity stripped of you.
Speaker 1: But stuff exactly what you did. So yeah, because if
Speaker 1: you don't like but stuff, you don't like but stuff.
Speaker 1: But I was so excited when he told me he
Speaker 1: wanted to try it, because I was like, can we
Speaker 1: do it? Oh my god, pleased because I was like,
Speaker 1: you've been wanting to do that for a long time,
Speaker 1: so long and the real I and it did feel
Speaker 1: it felt very weird too, because I put it on
Speaker 1: and it was like this this brown leather harness. It
Speaker 1: was kind it was really hot. And then there's this
Speaker 1: purple dick that I put in it, and it felt
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what it's like to have
Speaker 1: a dick, but it was it was there like where
Speaker 1: the dick would be, so I felt like I had
Speaker 1: a dick. And then I like grabbed it and I
Speaker 1: was like I'm the man. Gender oh god, gender stricky.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, it was amazing. It was really cool
Speaker 1: to like just wear a strap on with a dick
Speaker 1: in it and then we full four play four play
Speaker 1: floor play when it comes to butt stuff obviously, so
Speaker 1: we're doing that and then say, I was like, how
Speaker 1: does someone who's never had it, because he's never been
Speaker 1: pegged before? Never ha does someone prepare? And asked, that's
Speaker 1: never been you know right? Well, because you know how
Speaker 1: I thought I was the the Neil Armstrong of licking
Speaker 1: his butt, but I found out I was a buzz aldrin. Yes,
Speaker 1: so I'm the fucking Neil Armstrong of fucking pegging him.
Speaker 1: That's for goddamn sure, um, but for prep we a
Speaker 1: lot of loop licking and fingering of the butt or
Speaker 1: like rubbing, you know, and getting him hard obviously, but
Speaker 1: uh yeah, it was so I I looped the purple
Speaker 1: dick and I'm like on top of him and it
Speaker 1: was just it was so weird too. I've never felt
Speaker 1: like this in my life. And maybe this is what
Speaker 1: it feels like top sex with the virgin. I don't know,
Speaker 1: because I took his butthole virginity basically, um, but I
Speaker 1: was I kept asking, it's okay for you? Is this okay? Like?
Speaker 1: And he was, you know, fidgety and obviously because it
Speaker 1: was a new experience and like, his butt hole has
Speaker 1: never had anything bigger than a finger in it. So
Speaker 1: you know, that's a lot of going from zero to hero.
Speaker 1: It's not easy. I did it, and it's not easy. No,
Speaker 1: I mean with a giant cock, says and I don't
Speaker 1: even think I liked them. I didn't really like it
Speaker 1: myself either. But you know, he all fours. No, he
Speaker 1: was on the bed, all laying on his back. I
Speaker 1: was on top of him as if I was a
Speaker 1: dudetrating and don't know. That's why I thought, you said,
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's weird to you entered the
Speaker 1: butt that way? Yeah, because he didn't want to. He
Speaker 1: wanted That's how he wanted me to do. It. Just
Speaker 1: feels like it would eat hurt even more. It hurts
Speaker 1: me more when I have anal sex like that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's true. Maybe it was a positioning, but I got it.
Speaker 1: You know, I was playing with his butt hole. Playing
Speaker 1: with his butthole is great, gout fingers up all up
Speaker 1: in the butt hole and then uh, and then I
Speaker 1: was like, should we try and can we try it?
Speaker 1: And goes Yeah, I put it and put it in
Speaker 1: and I was obviously very slow because I know what
Speaker 1: it feels like to have something go inside you and
Speaker 1: it hurts. And uh. I put it right up against
Speaker 1: his butt hole and he's like, oh, that's big. That
Speaker 1: is huge. That is way bigger than the arrows. And
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I mean like Stephen, your but
Speaker 1: your cock has been inside my butt hole. He's like,
Speaker 1: I know, God damn. And so I pushed it. I
Speaker 1: was like, is this okay? I felt so I felt
Speaker 1: like I was hurting him and I it was painful
Speaker 1: and it was scary because it was new and it
Speaker 1: was you know, but it felt it didn't it felt weird.
Speaker 1: It felt very weird. Um not in a van way,
Speaker 1: but definitely not a good way. And so I put
Speaker 1: it in. I pushed it and pushed it and it
Speaker 1: wasn't going in and I wasn't pushing it hard enough.
Speaker 1: So he's like, push it further and I went in
Speaker 1: like maybe half an inch. He was like to get out,
Speaker 1: to take it out, take it out, because he's like,
Speaker 1: it's like screen, it doesn't feel good. And also he
Speaker 1: doesn't drink, so I that's usually have a glass of
Speaker 1: wine to take a shot or something needs something to
Speaker 1: take that sting off because I had it was weird.
Speaker 1: That's a weird. Maybe I think that's not a good
Speaker 1: position for something that I think you maybe right. I
Speaker 1: don't even think of that part. So if you don't
Speaker 1: want to be on all four, this is what I
Speaker 1: would recommend. Lie flat on your stomach. Oh, flip that
Speaker 1: away because the button needs to be higher. And also
Speaker 1: you're gonna have you're gonna have a better line of vision.
Speaker 1: Because for me, when I have when I'm trying to
Speaker 1: have anal sex and starting it really slow, like I know,
Speaker 1: I mean every now and again, I don't mind, it's
Speaker 1: not my favorite thing, but every now and I just
Speaker 1: get bored with your my vagina. So yeah, if you
Speaker 1: lay flat on your stomach and then slowly and started
Speaker 1: that way, in my experience, that's the least painful way
Speaker 1: to do it. Okay, Yeah, I guess I never have
Speaker 1: had a note, I've never actually had vaginal sex at
Speaker 1: way all the time with guy. That's guy on top
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But that's true. That position seemed the
Speaker 1: narrow sinning him. He's in that position. But that's so
Speaker 1: much china. Yeah, and that's also just things like a
Speaker 1: clip like it's like like this like a pinky, isn't
Speaker 1: it you shaped? That it's not really you shape, it's
Speaker 1: like L shaped so that it goes against his team.
Speaker 1: I was like, I know there's some kind of a
Speaker 1: like a hooked thing, but it was just it was
Speaker 1: so weird because after that we we waited, we like
Speaker 1: took a twenty minute break, and then we had sex eventually,
Speaker 1: But but after that it was just I kept going like,
Speaker 1: are you okay that I hurt you? And it was
Speaker 1: just weird to have something attached to my body that
Speaker 1: could hurt I just I don't know, it was very
Speaker 1: it was very different. I liked it, and I hope
Speaker 1: one day I do foresee me really enjoying like pegging him,
Speaker 1: like thrusting. But I don't know if he would like that.
Speaker 1: See I would like to peg a girl. I don't
Speaker 1: really have any interested in pegging a man. That'd I'm
Speaker 1: hard like disgusted by straight man's butts. I gotta say overall,
Speaker 1: I can only think of one but that it was like,
Speaker 1: but that guy was like weirdly clean. Yeah, and we
Speaker 1: don't we don't ever do but stuff on us, like
Speaker 1: just fresh out of the shower, you know, just just
Speaker 1: because otherwise that's that's not fun for me. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't like I was gonna say, I was like, how
Speaker 1: many shower? Well? And then but did he do like
Speaker 1: digestive preparation? Okay, you didn't do like an enim or anything.
Speaker 1: He just ate very well and he made sure to
Speaker 1: uh make sure he was empty. You can do it
Speaker 1: for like, yeah, if you just do it for a
Speaker 1: good day and a half, you're five Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: Man strapping on a dick and then putting it in
Speaker 1: the guy's ass powerful. So now I get why some
Speaker 1: dudes can like get out of hand wither when it
Speaker 1: gets too far. Of course, Yeah, that doesn't mean it's excusable. Well, um,
Speaker 1: what happened to you? How was your day? No? I
Speaker 1: mean me and James just gotten a huge fight over
Speaker 1: Marcia Clark's nudes and I kicked him out of marsh
Speaker 1: Park has nudes. Yes, you obviously did not watch the
Speaker 1: people versus Oh I did. That was a huge part
Speaker 1: of it. I don't know, I know they talked about
Speaker 1: it in the was paper about her hair sucked and
Speaker 1: ship and her ex husband leaked. Oh cry, yeah, wait,
Speaker 1: so what was the what was the different stances. I
Speaker 1: just I, well, I I don't even honestly, I was like,
Speaker 1: I was so living at the number one. Marshall Clark
Speaker 1: is like my original Hillary Clinton, Like you cannot you
Speaker 1: cannot say anything about him. About Marsha Clark, I love her.
Speaker 1: She was one of my first heroes. Like, I fucking
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with Marsha and I it was that flame
Speaker 1: was reignited when I watched the entire People versus Ogis
Speaker 1: Simpson over the weekend, like the entire thing Sarah Poulson's
Speaker 1: port fucking I mean, she just nailed it. It was.
Speaker 1: It was phenomenal, and I loved I had no idea
Speaker 1: about this like very sexy relationship between Marshall Clark and
Speaker 1: Chris Darden. I was very into it. Chris Darden well,
Speaker 1: I mean the actor who was playing Chris Darden was
Speaker 1: like smoking hot um and I really liked that. I love,
Speaker 1: like the older white woman with the younger black guy.
Speaker 1: That was very hot. Uh No, But because I just
Speaker 1: I said that her ex husband releasing nude photos was
Speaker 1: sexual a form of sexual assault. Yeah, that was what
Speaker 1: it was. And he was just like, well, you wouldn't
Speaker 1: like if I can look it up legally and like
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be like in prison for that. I was like,
Speaker 1: number one, I don't care what the justice system says specually.
Speaker 1: Now you can. I don't know if in that day
Speaker 1: and age you came not at all on that day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, I think that's a new thing with
Speaker 1: like you know, the Jennifer Lawrence new pictures and stuff. Uh.
Speaker 1: So I said number one, I don't care what the
Speaker 1: justice system says. That's not how I base my morality
Speaker 1: on what the fucking government says. I based my morality
Speaker 1: on like what is right, and it makes people feel
Speaker 1: fucking awful, as you should, and like they are being
Speaker 1: uh you know, exposed without their consent. So I was like,
Speaker 1: it's a hundred percent sexual assault. And I was like
Speaker 1: also number two, um well, I also anything like sex
Speaker 1: related on like, please do not like anything feminist or
Speaker 1: sex related on like this. I am the expertise expert
Speaker 1: in this fucking arena, so don't even write with him,
Speaker 1: which like he knows he's very smart and he's very
Speaker 1: well read about stuff. And I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: care what read says about feminism. I got it, Thanks
Speaker 1: so much, um, yeah, And I just was very annoyed
Speaker 1: by that, and I was like, it is sexual assault
Speaker 1: and it's a form of sexual violence. I was like,
Speaker 1: all violence doesn't mean that someone's hitting you. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: it's emotional, it feels violent. Yeah. Oh, I would be
Speaker 1: so devastated if some new new photo. That's why I
Speaker 1: don't take new photos of myself. Oh yeah, I I
Speaker 1: would feel like I got sexual assaulted for sure. I
Speaker 1: would feel like I was so violated and then other
Speaker 1: people are just having a heyday. See I actually I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: But I totally understand Marsha Field. And also marsh is
Speaker 1: not a fucking she's a cast ho. She's a Ganzia
Speaker 1: Moyer on the most famous case that was happening at
Speaker 1: that time. And and also that I really loved that
Speaker 1: piece because it's just it was Hillary Clinton all over
Speaker 1: again before Hillary Clinton even happened. It was just a
Speaker 1: woman not being respected in a place where she obviously
Speaker 1: uh deserved to be and had the knowledge to be there.
Speaker 1: And just like a lot of like things were coming in,
Speaker 1: like her being treated differently because she had obligations with
Speaker 1: her children as a mother. The fucking new thing, the
Speaker 1: haircut thing. Oh yeah, just those are all women only.
Speaker 1: Hunger Back was in there looking like a goddamn crazy pastor,
Speaker 1: and and everyone was fine with it. And also he
Speaker 1: wasn't even using law tactics. He was using it was
Speaker 1: he was using tactically. He was he was in the
Speaker 1: times in society and using it to make his client listen,
Speaker 1: whatever you do to win, I hear you. But that's
Speaker 1: I don't know, Marshal, Marshal marsh Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: got so riled up over over that, truly. Shall we
Speaker 1: read an email really quickly? Yeah? The subject line is
Speaker 1: helped my girlfriend found my gay porn history on my
Speaker 1: iPad by accident, A big fuck you to eye cloud,
Speaker 1: and now she thinks I'm gay. Oh ship dude. Hey, gals,
Speaker 1: love your show, been listening to it since the early days.
Speaker 1: Rock blah blah blah. You all know all this. Let's
Speaker 1: let's get to a backstory. I consider myself a most
Speaker 1: mostly straight male age six. I mean my early twenties,
Speaker 1: I struggled with my sexual identity, and I'm sorry. In
Speaker 1: my early twenties, I struggled with my sexual identity. I
Speaker 1: can read. I've always loved women and everything about them.
Speaker 1: After more self discovery and those experimental university years, I
Speaker 1: found that I am also attracted to men. I dabbled
Speaker 1: in a few short term relationships and casual evenings with
Speaker 1: some dudes and realized that it didn't turn my crank.
Speaker 1: It took me a while to realize that I could
Speaker 1: be attracted to both men and women, but only desire
Speaker 1: to be in relationships with women. Today, as I was
Speaker 1: puttering around our apartment, my girlfriend used asked to use
Speaker 1: my iPad to research some places to go on a
Speaker 1: trip we booked over spring break. This led to her
Speaker 1: to my porn history. I cloud saves visited sites which
Speaker 1: is filled with all kinds of porn, straight porn, gay porn, MMF, MF, etcetera.
Speaker 1: Needless to say, she freaked the funk out. She knew
Speaker 1: about my sexual history, although it was always a tiny
Speaker 1: sore spot in our relationship until only until recently have
Speaker 1: I come to terms with and embraced my sexuality, which
Speaker 1: I thought strength in our relationship. She began to tell
Speaker 1: me that it's okay if I want to live as
Speaker 1: a gay mail etcetera, etcetera, and I tried to assure
Speaker 1: her that the porn doesn't change anything about our relationship.
Speaker 1: She doesn't want to turn forty, She's now thirty five
Speaker 1: and have me tell her that I'm leaving her for
Speaker 1: a dude. This hurt me a lot because I have
Speaker 1: been working so hard on myself and embracing who I
Speaker 1: am sexually. She is second guessing everything. Why am I attracted,
Speaker 1: Why why I am attracted her? If I imagined her
Speaker 1: as a man during sex, etcetera. Her mind was and
Speaker 1: still is going to dark places. She can't even look
Speaker 1: at me and is finding every excuse to stay away
Speaker 1: from me. I understand that she will need time, but
Speaker 1: I have no idea how to help her. I'm devastated
Speaker 1: and heartbroken. We have such an amazing relationship. We're very
Speaker 1: open with each other other than this issue. Clearly, sex
Speaker 1: is great, love, spending time together, etcetera. I'm so lost
Speaker 1: for words. I don't know what to do or think.
Speaker 1: We are both hurting and need each other's support. I'm fair,
Speaker 1: I'm a fairly emotional, emotionally reserved person, and I struggle
Speaker 1: with expressing my feelings. She has helped me a lot
Speaker 1: with this, and all I wanted to is is to
Speaker 1: keep the conversation going to help her understand. We talk
Speaker 1: about living out our days together and I don't want
Speaker 1: this to be the thing that destroys what we have.
Speaker 1: Any advice would be appreciated. Growford kind of has a
Speaker 1: little homophobic. No, I totally gets bisexual. No women look
Speaker 1: at porn that's all lesbian porn all the time, who
Speaker 1: aren't even bisexual, and no one gives a fuck, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the same. It's a double standard. That's bullshit.
Speaker 1: She needs a calm of funk down and realize it's
Speaker 1: not all that though. It's it's also the age difference.
Speaker 1: There's a huge age difference there, and they grew grew
Speaker 1: up in different times. He's twenty six, she's thirty five.
Speaker 1: They're they're from different different things are accepted. A woman
Speaker 1: who was thirty five does didn't grow up in this
Speaker 1: weirdly progressive society that we grew up in, and so
Speaker 1: it's very hard to change that mindset when you're already
Speaker 1: thirty five. And I mean it is such a common thing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's other fears going on. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, as a woman in your thirties, when you
Speaker 1: start hating your thirties, you just you do feel less valued.
Speaker 1: Do you feel less sexual, you feel uh less real? Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: if you feel it from society. I don't you feel
Speaker 1: more confident in yourself, but you feel it from society,
Speaker 1: you feel people you're not You're You're just not You're
Speaker 1: not what people want. You're not you know, like my joke,
Speaker 1: O is, you're not the iPhone, you're the Android, and
Speaker 1: and that's that is a joke, but it's based in true,
Speaker 1: true reality. And so if you're twenty six, I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's other things going on, Um, you know that possibly
Speaker 1: worried about being left for age, and this is just
Speaker 1: another thing that's piling up. And when you're thirty five
Speaker 1: and you're a woman, especially it is true you want
Speaker 1: that security. And so if just is just this is
Speaker 1: just kind of like she I'm sure she feels like
Speaker 1: it's this, it's another crack, like she wants to get
Speaker 1: going like twenty and thirty five, especially when the woman's
Speaker 1: thirty five, it's just so different. And so but him
Speaker 1: just looking at having a gay porn and it's partly
Speaker 1: her insecurity. Yeah, I was gonna say she's insecure that
Speaker 1: how I was, But it's not, but I totally get
Speaker 1: where that where it's coming from, because there's probably other
Speaker 1: insecurities and it's just too much like she knows what
Speaker 1: it's like to grow up and go through her twenties
Speaker 1: and figure sh it out, and so it's probably also
Speaker 1: a little bit of insecurity, like I am not going
Speaker 1: to be enough for this person. I love this person
Speaker 1: so much, but I don't necessarily uh now, I am
Speaker 1: worried about being able to guarantee that I will be
Speaker 1: able to provide him with everything he will need, whether
Speaker 1: that is emotional, whether that is a partner can do that,
Speaker 1: but some people want some some sometimes each other is enough.
Speaker 1: And I and I think it's just like these are
Speaker 1: two just vastly think truly like different time periods like
Speaker 1: that ten years especially, like the way things are now
Speaker 1: and so progressive, Like I really really really see that
Speaker 1: being I'm not saying it can't work, of course, but
Speaker 1: I just see where she's coming from, and that is
Speaker 1: that's that's it's jarring. And even but even if she
Speaker 1: knew that he had relationships with men a past and
Speaker 1: they talked about it and it's fine, yeah, but to
Speaker 1: see it and also the past is different. It's cool
Speaker 1: to see to know about, and it's cool and it's
Speaker 1: hot to hear something in the past. But then when
Speaker 1: it is present and it's in your space and in
Speaker 1: your face, maybe that's what drives different, drives the knife
Speaker 1: more or twist the knife because it girls look at
Speaker 1: I feel like straight women look at lesbian porn all
Speaker 1: the time. But if you're a woman who used to
Speaker 1: date women, maybe your boyfriend finding your lesbian And I
Speaker 1: know couples who have gone through that who the boyfriend
Speaker 1: freaked out and was like, are you a lesbian? Percent
Speaker 1: It has a little bit to do with insecurity, but
Speaker 1: it has a lot a lot to do with like
Speaker 1: just different that close, just different mindsets, and also just
Speaker 1: being in different points in your life. You're still in
Speaker 1: that exploratory period and should be thirty five, you're wrapping
Speaker 1: shipped up, this curtains closing. We're what are we doing
Speaker 1: for the rest of our lives? And that's not the
Speaker 1: way that it has to be. It's not necessarily the
Speaker 1: way it should be, but it's the way it is. Um,
Speaker 1: and I should do no one's doing like, no one
Speaker 1: in this situation is doing anything wrong. UM. I mean
Speaker 1: that's I mean, that's a look. I I understand the
Speaker 1: power of feeling so insecure that you're angry at your partner,
Speaker 1: because because if it is that, I do under obviously
Speaker 1: I get it. I get feelings so insecure. I don't
Speaker 1: like talking about things that make me insecure, especially to
Speaker 1: the person that that it's coming from, like like Steven
Speaker 1: or my partner. I would never want to admit that
Speaker 1: I because that would make me look weak, It would
Speaker 1: make me blah blah blah in my head all these things,
Speaker 1: so she might be stubborn about it and just sucking.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's important to talk about though, Like
Speaker 1: James and I definitely talk about like our worst, like
Speaker 1: our worst traits and characteristics together. It's not easy, but
Speaker 1: it makes everything a lot better and it helps you
Speaker 1: to understand people a lot more. And sometimes conversations like
Speaker 1: that needs to be had multiple times before someone's really
Speaker 1: going to break down and talk to you. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: guess I'm just the type of person, even if it's
Speaker 1: someone I love deeply, deeply, deeply. And it's like if
Speaker 1: someone saw something on my computer and they thought I liked,
Speaker 1: I still wanted one thing and it just really totally
Speaker 1: wasn't true. I could only be understanding to that to
Speaker 1: a point before it's like, what the funk else can
Speaker 1: I say for you to believe me? And it would
Speaker 1: ruin the relationship. This is so new though, like she
Speaker 1: just discovered this now and it's just rough and like
Speaker 1: it's it's just kind of like it's something that was
Speaker 1: definitely like bothering her a little bit, but she was
Speaker 1: able to get past. But then when it was right
Speaker 1: in her face, now it's going to take a little
Speaker 1: bit more time. Time is very healing. Um, sometimes it's not,
Speaker 1: but yeah it can it can be but or sometimes
Speaker 1: it's healing. But sometimes you didn't think you were still
Speaker 1: insecure about something when you are. For example, was Stephen
Speaker 1: was editing his really yesterday and there it was story
Speaker 1: I get eating Now, and I was like, why did
Speaker 1: you show me this fun you? And I yelled him
Speaker 1: and I felt really bad, like why did I do that?
Speaker 1: Why did I react? With porn is on his reel? No,
Speaker 1: it's a music video. She gets eaten out, but you
Speaker 1: just see the top of her. But I had to
Speaker 1: watch it and I like got mad at him and
Speaker 1: I was mean to him and he was just trying
Speaker 1: to show me his fucking real that I've encouraging him
Speaker 1: to work on forever and he's doing a great job.
Speaker 1: And it was a fucking amazing reel. But why that
Speaker 1: made me small? Still? I was like, God, damn it, Christina,
Speaker 1: didn't you know that was gonna be on there? Though
Speaker 1: she was gonna be on there now, I didn't even
Speaker 1: think about it, but I mean, it makes sense. And
Speaker 1: then he was like, I'll take it down. I'll take
Speaker 1: it down, Like I will get more mad at you
Speaker 1: if you take it down, right, because then like, don't
Speaker 1: cave in the maze famous, it'll also help. It's yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, anyway, securities can be crippling. Well, it's also
Speaker 1: like are you acting gay? Yo? You gay? You're walking
Speaker 1: around dixing your pap sir. Uh. Yeah, it definitely needs
Speaker 1: to be talked to. But at a certain point, I
Speaker 1: mean like, yeah, I just think it's like your different
Speaker 1: phases in your life, Like that's a that's there's also
Speaker 1: already a lot to deal with with that with that
Speaker 1: age gap. And I don't want to say that it's
Speaker 1: a it's a problem because it doesn't have to be
Speaker 1: a problem, but it's something, it's not nothing. And also,
Speaker 1: I just want to give everyone a heads up. I
Speaker 1: watched Gender Revolution, which is the Katie correct documentary. It
Speaker 1: was on that geo but I think you can get
Speaker 1: it online now. Highly recommend fucking love me some. Um
Speaker 1: it's it goes really in deep into gender. I mean,
Speaker 1: some of it is obnoxious people, but some a lot
Speaker 1: of it's good. And Katie Kirk is so just delightful.
Speaker 1: She's like, I don't know what anything tell me things like,
Speaker 1: she's like such a mom I fucking lover um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so watch that learn grow, you know, all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: Now let's get to today's guest. Oh my god. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say much because we'll cover it in
Speaker 1: the interview. But today's guest is the man who lives
Speaker 1: right across the hall from me, the man I've known
Speaker 1: for uh for maybe they're going on eight years now,
Speaker 1: and the man I'm about to ask if he hears
Speaker 1: me have sex and I'm kind of nervous. We always
Speaker 1: gonna say yeah because he looks right there. Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: please welcome to the podcast. My super Tony good Sea
Speaker 1: see Okay, talking to the Mike, because you can hear
Speaker 1: yeah a little closer like the way I am like
Speaker 1: that perfectly perfect. Um. We're so excited to have you on.
Speaker 1: And one question I've always wanted to ask, have you
Speaker 1: ever heard me and Steven up sex? Hell? You really? Hell? Yeah? Recently?
Speaker 1: You seem like you were definitely expecting him to say yes. No.
Speaker 1: I was hoping you'd say no, but I knew you
Speaker 1: were going to say yes. That's what it was. Damn
Speaker 1: it because I don't like dan. I don't like hearing
Speaker 1: people here. Can you hear it in your home or
Speaker 1: only in the hallway? Okay, so that's not that bad.
Speaker 1: But my wife has heard it from inside the door. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's and what did she said? She was like, Tony,
Speaker 1: why don't like that? But you want to hear something
Speaker 1: I do? That's why you're hearing the want to you
Speaker 1: want to hear something kind of strange? Yes? Please? I
Speaker 1: had a Russian chick that you used to live upstairs
Speaker 1: from me, and she actually, do you have a trampoline? No?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Some upstairs has trampoline or they're
Speaker 1: fucking all the time. But she actually hit me off
Speaker 1: sexually because she heard me with another chick. Wait, what
Speaker 1: with your wife? No, no, no, this was before my
Speaker 1: wife along, before I had a girl. She was a
Speaker 1: screamer to put the pillow over her mouth, over her head.
Speaker 1: So the Russian chick wanted to bang you because you
Speaker 1: were so good at banging this other girl. Now that's
Speaker 1: a review. Never I've heard one. You heard that's like
Speaker 1: a lot or just every so often. Oh oh, and
Speaker 1: how I lived here for a long time. Yeah, that's what. No,
Speaker 1: that's not bad. Hold the micup to But were you guys?
Speaker 1: That was must have been really were you downstairs? No,
Speaker 1: we were We've been downstairs for a couple of like
Speaker 1: a month maybe before you were here. Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: like right by the door. Yeah, okay, well twice is bad.
Speaker 1: That's just like I don't want anybody to look at
Speaker 1: me and just I don't know, I just don't want
Speaker 1: to hear I don't want to hear other people having sex.
Speaker 1: And let me tell you when day I walked out
Speaker 1: the house and there was a car park right outside, right,
Speaker 1: so I happened to notice the car. I could see
Speaker 1: the chicks legs, both our legs by the standwheel. What Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were having sex. Right there. So I turned around.
Speaker 1: She looked at me and she gave me the thumbs up.
Speaker 1: Well that's nice, she said, and she said, no, no
Speaker 1: need to call anyone. I'm good. I'm on board with that. Right.
Speaker 1: I like that? That was cool? Right? Cool? Damn? Well, um,
Speaker 1: you used to be a prison guard for twenty years.
Speaker 1: We don't like to be called prison guard, sorry, like
Speaker 1: correction officers and that's all around rule. Yeah, so correctional
Speaker 1: officer for twenty years. Can I say where in writers? Well?
Speaker 1: I worked on Rikers Island. I worked in the tunbs.
Speaker 1: Do you know what guy named Sterling? Sterling? Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: we know more or less? Was he a prisoner or no?
Speaker 1: He was a correctional I just realized I went to
Speaker 1: SPA with a man named Sterling who also worked as
Speaker 1: a correctional uh guard officer at Rikers. Rikers is like
Speaker 1: a city. I wasn't say. I like, it's probably pretty
Speaker 1: large though, yeah, like a city by so. And one thing,
Speaker 1: one thing you're telling me about being working as a
Speaker 1: correctional officer Rikers was you only worked in the women's
Speaker 1: area one day? Yeah, one day and that was it?
Speaker 1: And what why? Why was that? The chicks are crazy
Speaker 1: that make you lose your job because some of them
Speaker 1: are beautiful, you know. Yeah, President, I've had maybe two
Speaker 1: three of them flash me like they'll come out the
Speaker 1: shower and drop the town. They'll they'll be like, oops,
Speaker 1: didn't me and do that? Yeah, And I'm saying, no,
Speaker 1: I like my job. You don't even want to be
Speaker 1: tempted by No, not at all. Well, I mean, you
Speaker 1: know they're they're obviously good at manipulation, but just one
Speaker 1: thing went wrong and that's why that's some some some
Speaker 1: guys a week. When it comes to women, we've heard
Speaker 1: very weak. And I know my limitation, so I know
Speaker 1: that I don't put I wouldn't put myself in that
Speaker 1: position right because, um like I wouldn't work at a
Speaker 1: candy cap where you absolutely can't eat candy. You need
Speaker 1: to know your ups and down corn factory. I just
Speaker 1: can't working in women's prison section because what else did
Speaker 1: they do? They don't have just like female correctional officers.
Speaker 1: Though for the female section they do, but it's not
Speaker 1: but it's not only female, it's not only Yeah, that's interesting,
Speaker 1: Like they don't have with the men. They don't have
Speaker 1: just men. They have women that work with how some
Speaker 1: sometimes it's um, a woman is a woman can be
Speaker 1: more Uh, that's what I'm thinking. She could be more
Speaker 1: helpful than men because if they're professional. Because I've seen
Speaker 1: some women who I've had, it makes tell me if
Speaker 1: I met if I met her on the street, I
Speaker 1: would crack her jaw and then because some of them
Speaker 1: are just so unprofessional. I had this girl, this chick,
Speaker 1: she used to work with me and one time, and
Speaker 1: her name was Watkins. I shouldn't use her name, but
Speaker 1: but the hell, but the hell with because she should
Speaker 1: make my date, you know, a lot more harder than
Speaker 1: it should be. Um. She she she was so unprofessional,
Speaker 1: Like she would somebody. It may say something or do something,
Speaker 1: she'll go, your mother, it's not even a good comeback
Speaker 1: at a child. Yeah, just like a child, your er face.
Speaker 1: They would come and ask her for something and she said,
Speaker 1: you wait, like she come and do a relief. You know,
Speaker 1: she's only there for like forty five minutes, and when
Speaker 1: you come back, she'll be up. The whole place would
Speaker 1: be upset, you know, she was. She was just so nasty,
Speaker 1: you know. And some people are just like that. They
Speaker 1: put on a they get a gun, and a badge,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden they had get three sizes
Speaker 1: sizes bigger than it is. Yeah, so and she was
Speaker 1: just like that. And then what about what was it
Speaker 1: like working in the men's section, Like did you see
Speaker 1: like did everybody have like a prison boyfriend? Or because
Speaker 1: we read an email that I had told you about
Speaker 1: a long time ago about a woman being abused by
Speaker 1: prison guards and we got a bunch of emails after
Speaker 1: that in people in the same situations, but one of
Speaker 1: them had talked about prison boyfriends in a very in
Speaker 1: depth and I was like, damn, I thought that was
Speaker 1: a stereotype. You know, it's it's crazy. I've seen a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of things happened and it's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: I had a guy. This guy was built like a refrigerator.
Speaker 1: He was like, uh, like six eight six nine maybe
Speaker 1: close close to three pounds of muscle, right, big dog,
Speaker 1: nice looking brother, you know. Um. And there was this
Speaker 1: other officer female. She used to say things about him
Speaker 1: that I found that I thought was a lie. You know,
Speaker 1: like he was whenever you talked to this guy, he
Speaker 1: was always talking about sex, and his whole conversation was
Speaker 1: about sex. Yeah, everything he talked about with sex and
Speaker 1: you know, um and she one time said that she
Speaker 1: caught him with a with an emmate, a male inmate,
Speaker 1: not a female inmate, but a male emmate. Try blew
Speaker 1: it off. And one day I came to work and
Speaker 1: a friend of mine said, Yo, this cat got he
Speaker 1: you know, he got arrested. They came in, they arrested him,
Speaker 1: and you know, with allegations that he did something to
Speaker 1: a male inmate sexually, a male inmate sexually. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: did something crazy with him, but like consentually or rap. No,
Speaker 1: he at first it was consensual and then it got
Speaker 1: a little ugly. He got a little crazy because I
Speaker 1: guess after he did it, after he did what he
Speaker 1: did with him, he choked him. That's what the guy said.
Speaker 1: He choked him out. Whatever after he after he made
Speaker 1: he made him. Can we be explicitves? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: you would say whatever he made him suck his dick,
Speaker 1: you know. So and then a friend of mine had
Speaker 1: called me. He says to me, said, yo, I called him,
Speaker 1: And the main thing I wanted to know was was
Speaker 1: he okay? He said, listen, I'm not getting into your business.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get into your business. I just
Speaker 1: want to know if you're okay. He said, Now, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm good. He said, Yo, depending on the evidence, you know,
Speaker 1: I could vest out, meaning that he could retire and
Speaker 1: still keep his retiringment. Right. So when he said, I said, what,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, what did you say? So I asked
Speaker 1: him again, I said, he said, you know, depending on
Speaker 1: the evidence that he could vest out, await min. That
Speaker 1: sounds like an admission of guilt to me, because if
Speaker 1: if it was me, I'd be saying, Yo, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: shoot Award and I'm gonna shoot the department. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot a punk that that you know claimed
Speaker 1: that I did. Yeah, yeah, that said I made him
Speaker 1: suck his dead, right, I'm That's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 1: So I said, But to me, that's an admission of kilt.
Speaker 1: Come to find, And I kept saying, my wife heard
Speaker 1: about it. I said, not Big Phil, Big Fail wouldn't
Speaker 1: do no ship like that. But Big Phil grabbed the
Speaker 1: dude and and and the guy who he did it too.
Speaker 1: He kept his DNA in his mouth. He didn't spit
Speaker 1: it out. Mark motherfuckers. So when he went back and
Speaker 1: he said that this is where they said, give me
Speaker 1: some something so I can spit this out because I
Speaker 1: got his DNA in my mouth. So he made him
Speaker 1: suck his dick and he um, he kept it, spit
Speaker 1: it out, and he gave it to the you know,
Speaker 1: people in charge, and Big Field lost his job. You know,
Speaker 1: but I mean, you know, you would never think you
Speaker 1: know that, and this there's other correction office of female
Speaker 1: had said prior that she had called him doing something
Speaker 1: with an inmate, and nobody believed it, even though all
Speaker 1: he did was talking about sex. I mean that was
Speaker 1: kind of mean. Yeah, that's what I was thinking too.
Speaker 1: I said, you know a lot of people thought he
Speaker 1: was all talk. Listened this dude. He would look at
Speaker 1: the ugliest broad in the world, right and he said,
Speaker 1: I would suck her till she love him. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean he's just like yeah, him and another guy.
Speaker 1: So he was he was would talk around to jail
Speaker 1: that he was a suspect. Maybe he was going the
Speaker 1: other way, you know, yeah he was. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: getting by or whatever. Because but it was kind of
Speaker 1: weird that he would actually I just kept saying that
Speaker 1: Big Field, no, because you know, I mean, gay people,
Speaker 1: bisexual people. They didn't come in one specific size, shape
Speaker 1: of color, of course, not every size, shape and color. Yea.
Speaker 1: So well, speaking of willpower, you had told me a story,
Speaker 1: would you be? Could you tell it on the podcast
Speaker 1: about meeting somebody and being naive? And she took me
Speaker 1: to the townhouse and she was like, way to go.
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, that was crazy. I meant this chick, man,
Speaker 1: she was gorgeous. We was, we was in the it
Speaker 1: was it was kind of weird. It was like when
Speaker 1: they get parties at right, they get parties, and then
Speaker 1: there was this chick. This dude was in the corner toy.
Speaker 1: He had a hymned up in the corner over there,
Speaker 1: just talking to her, and I was like, damn, I
Speaker 1: need to talk to her. She was I just thought
Speaker 1: she was gorgeous. So he was with it for like
Speaker 1: thirty minutes, and I'm like, damn, man, Harry, I've been
Speaker 1: getting at me. Wait. I waited only to talk to her.
Speaker 1: You know, as soon as he let her go, I
Speaker 1: ran up to I said, listen, I said, I couldn't
Speaker 1: wait till this dude cut you off. I said, not,
Speaker 1: you know, I just wanted to walk up and then
Speaker 1: do some myself, you know. So we started talking and
Speaker 1: then she says, listen, I'm leaving out of here in
Speaker 1: a while. You want to hang out? I said sure, sure, sure,
Speaker 1: and um. We went to the spot and it was
Speaker 1: like a brownstone in Brooklyn, you know. Um. And it
Speaker 1: was like a maybe three story brownstone. And when I
Speaker 1: walked in, and I was pretty naive because I didn't
Speaker 1: even know where I was at. After maybe forty minutes,
Speaker 1: I still didn't know where I was at. I was
Speaker 1: actually in the broth room, but I didn't but I
Speaker 1: didn't know, you know, I was like maybe I was
Speaker 1: in my early thirties, early thirties. So when we got
Speaker 1: inside there, she said to me, she said, yo, she said, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm going upstairs. I'm gonna change. I'll be back downstairs.
Speaker 1: I said, okay, So she she laughed and she said
Speaker 1: before she left, she said, you know, she introduced me
Speaker 1: to the bartender and she said, give it, give me
Speaker 1: anything I wanted. So, you know, I had sitting there sipping.
Speaker 1: So the end came Spanish chick with big tits. Right,
Speaker 1: she had the biggest beautiful titties I've ever seen. So
Speaker 1: I said, I said, I said to her, I said, wow,
Speaker 1: I said, did gym mother give you those? I mean,
Speaker 1: were you born with him? So she said he's a mine.
Speaker 1: So I did the Ed Norton Norton. You know what
Speaker 1: the Ed Norton is club reference na Ed Norton is.
Speaker 1: Do you know the honeymoon is? Yeah? Yeah? And and
Speaker 1: what was the guy named that actually did at the actor?
Speaker 1: I can't remember. I don't know. Well anyway, I know
Speaker 1: talking about it wasn't. It wasn't the league guy was
Speaker 1: the skinny guy? I can't. I think they called him
Speaker 1: Ed Norton on the show. Um, I was like an
Speaker 1: actor at Norton was yeah. So look he did one
Speaker 1: of these things. He did it like this, like he
Speaker 1: threw his hands up in the air just before he
Speaker 1: went to touch something. I don't know how to to
Speaker 1: actually verbalize doing what I'm doing, but he motioned that
Speaker 1: it's at her breast before he touched actually touched him,
Speaker 1: and it was just yeah, squeezing motion, Hong kong squeezing
Speaker 1: before he actually touched the breast. Yeah, And I felt him.
Speaker 1: They were did you did? She say you could feel that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So you were like niceties and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what you were in a brothel, the merch so
Speaker 1: they were nice. I touched him. Next thing I know,
Speaker 1: she grabbed my hand. She walked over to a door
Speaker 1: in the door and we went upstairs. Should we get upstairs?
Speaker 1: This is when it hit me that I was actually
Speaker 1: in a brothel. I saw a guy was waiting for
Speaker 1: one the moment I saw a guy walk walk walked
Speaker 1: by with a bunch of towels. Uh huh, stack of towels,
Speaker 1: tows folded and everything. And that's oh, ship, I'm in
Speaker 1: the brothelm wait why the towels make you think? Because
Speaker 1: when I went upstairs, they had like a seating area
Speaker 1: where you would sit, and then they had a bunch
Speaker 1: of rooms. So and when he walked away, he walked
Speaker 1: by with the towns is here. I looked back and
Speaker 1: I saw all the different little rooms. I said, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: I'm in the brothel. I've always been scared of hookers.
Speaker 1: You know why why have you always been scared of hookers? Well,
Speaker 1: I because you don't want to be taking advantage of
Speaker 1: or like, no, no, not so much that. It's just that, um,
Speaker 1: when I have sex, I like to be intimate with
Speaker 1: the person I'm with. So I don't just like going
Speaker 1: around one night stands sucking somebody. I don't know that
Speaker 1: he doesn't like. Yeah, I'm not into it. So what
Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm wasted. So hey, So we was going
Speaker 1: at it. We went when she came back, she took
Speaker 1: me in the room with going at it, and I
Speaker 1: felt something like touching my ass, right, and I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: it's this broader contortionist or something, because I got a
Speaker 1: bent over and I could see her head and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I felt something touching my ass.
Speaker 1: So I tucked around the chick who brought me. Then
Speaker 1: she was rubbing my ass, right, Yeah, she just walked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so she walked in and she smacked me on the ass,
Speaker 1: and I talked about I saw her, that's okay. So
Speaker 1: I went back to what I was doing and then
Speaker 1: I went back downstairs. And when I get back downstairs,
Speaker 1: she I mean, and this girl was gorgeous, right, the
Speaker 1: one who brought me the right she was. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was scaled from one to ten. She was a
Speaker 1: fifteen you know in my book, you know, so you know,
Speaker 1: she said, um, and this was crazy. She when we
Speaker 1: we started um, I said to her. I said, um,
Speaker 1: I want to get with you. I want to be
Speaker 1: with you. Right. She said, your money no good? Here,
Speaker 1: I said, my money is no good. Here, I said,
Speaker 1: I'm saying to myself, who the funk? Am I? You
Speaker 1: know my money is no good? I said, look, I've
Speaker 1: been I played Big Willie for a night. I want
Speaker 1: to be with you. So we wind up going into it.
Speaker 1: She said, okay, come on, So we're going the room
Speaker 1: and we wind up having sex. And what really scared
Speaker 1: me was that she actually sucked my dick without a condom.
Speaker 1: And I found that to be so reckless. You know,
Speaker 1: who the mind that you're gonna suck my dick? Are?
Speaker 1: You know? What I'm saying is, even if you this
Speaker 1: is what you're doing, you should at least be careful.
Speaker 1: You should at least And the fact is that when
Speaker 1: we left, I dropped off at home. Right. I know
Speaker 1: my limitations when it come to women and most things,
Speaker 1: you know, I know my limitations. And I just saw
Speaker 1: her and I was so attracted to her, and that
Speaker 1: I saw her being an issue for me. So when
Speaker 1: she gave me a phone number and I dropped off,
Speaker 1: the first thing I did when I pulled off, was
Speaker 1: ripped a number up and a thousand pieces and threw
Speaker 1: it out the window because I knew sheet for her.
Speaker 1: For me, she would be reckless, too distracting for you. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: she would be a problem for me. Yeah. And she
Speaker 1: liked that was her job, like it wasn't like something
Speaker 1: that she probably you don't know if you'd want to
Speaker 1: date or maybe she would, listen. I mean, physically, there's
Speaker 1: a physical attraction, and then there's a mental emotional or
Speaker 1: mentally mental attraction to a person, and you have to
Speaker 1: weigh all those things to actually say to yourself, I
Speaker 1: like to get with her, yeah, because sometimes that physical
Speaker 1: attraction can be a thick fog over some fucked up
Speaker 1: ship that you don't get to see until you're with
Speaker 1: the p I saw that, listen. I'm a risk honsorable person.
Speaker 1: I want the person i'm with to be responsible, you know.
Speaker 1: And I thought it was pretty reckless for her to
Speaker 1: suck my dick without a condom. How many other dicks
Speaker 1: you don't suck without a condom? Did you bring it
Speaker 1: up here or you never? Nine of you wanted to
Speaker 1: see the chick no more? Yeah, you know, and Kim
Speaker 1: to find out. The officer who was working with me,
Speaker 1: he's been to that place, he knows her. When I
Speaker 1: started explaining to her, he said, he's like, oh, she
Speaker 1: also sucks my da. What he said to me was
Speaker 1: that she was with She said, he was She was
Speaker 1: with some African dude and he was screwing it. And
Speaker 1: the dude specifically took off the condom, took off the
Speaker 1: condom and and and squirted in inside him. Yeah. Oh
Speaker 1: in her body or in her mouth, you know, while
Speaker 1: he was Yeah, it came inside of it, she said.
Speaker 1: She flipped out and ran through the place screaming. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's a huge violation. But even but you know,
Speaker 1: people like nowadays, like they don't they I think some
Speaker 1: women look at having intercourse and sucking the dick is
Speaker 1: too total different. They do, they do. And while you
Speaker 1: can still get an STD through because you get the
Speaker 1: chances of pregnancy through having interre unprotected sex are so
Speaker 1: much greater there. I mean, they're there, first of all,
Speaker 1: they're not there if if you because I've never even
Speaker 1: thought of using a condom with a blowjob. That sounds like, look,
Speaker 1: why would I do that? But when it's your profession
Speaker 1: or you do it all the time. You want to
Speaker 1: care for you got to be careful sucking. Uh, you
Speaker 1: don't want to get like mouth cancer HPV. Also maybe
Speaker 1: she was like, I mean, this is not a good thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe she really like was just judging you. You're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he looks clean. People do that. It's not a good
Speaker 1: thing to do. Sometimes women are like, damn a chance
Speaker 1: it yeah, fingers crossed. So when you because you have
Speaker 1: you have a clean looking dick, Tony, congratulations, how did
Speaker 1: you meet your wife? Speaking of cleans, speaking of brothels
Speaker 1: and dick sucking? What's the story? We were actually um
Speaker 1: introduced through a friend, and that's really not a good
Speaker 1: way to actually meet somebody, somebody that you want to be,
Speaker 1: they say, a man, it's actually more in tune with
Speaker 1: a woman when he chose. We like to choose, We
Speaker 1: like to choose. I mean you did choose. You chose
Speaker 1: to stay with the person. I mean, so it kind
Speaker 1: of bothered you a little that you didn't meet her
Speaker 1: on the streets and you met her because your friend
Speaker 1: said here's this person with a little bit yeah little
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah. But maybe your friend was like, Tony,
Speaker 1: really can't focus. Let me help her. He seems to
Speaker 1: lack focus. So you're introduced to a friend. Um, yes,
Speaker 1: she she was introduced me with a by a friend.
Speaker 1: And umatic have you seen the notebook? Because that is
Speaker 1: just as good as I was gonna say. What is
Speaker 1: this getting made into a major motion picture? How long
Speaker 1: have you guys been together? My son is? My son
Speaker 1: is eighteen years old. He's eighteen years old. Nineteen years Okay.
Speaker 1: I like that you judged it off the age of
Speaker 1: your son, not off of the years I love the
Speaker 1: same woman for nine How old my kid? How old
Speaker 1: are you now? I'm fifty. I'm fifty four years old.
Speaker 1: Oh Jesus Christ, okay, thirty five. But then it tpp
Speaker 1: me off when you said when I was in my
Speaker 1: earlier thirties, and I was like, oh, here, we're much
Speaker 1: older than my thoughts. I actually had my son when
Speaker 1: I was thirty six years old, and I think, um that,
Speaker 1: I think that was one of the reasons why, um,
Speaker 1: you know what my kids are doing as as well
Speaker 1: as they're doing. Yeah, I think that a large reason
Speaker 1: why you know, kids are actually having kids and what's that?
Speaker 1: And that's one of the big reasons why, uh, this
Speaker 1: generation is so screwed up. I think because young people
Speaker 1: are having kids to do yeah, because it seems like
Speaker 1: people are waiting longer and longer now because I don't
Speaker 1: want to have kids until I'm thirty five, Definitely, I
Speaker 1: I don't. That's not something I'm interested. I'm too selfish
Speaker 1: right now, and I don't want I don't have time,
Speaker 1: I don't have good God and in New York and stuff.
Speaker 1: But I feel like people are waiting a little longer.
Speaker 1: But do you think waiting, like having a kid, your
Speaker 1: first kid when you were thirty six, made you a
Speaker 1: better parent. I think I think it does. You did
Speaker 1: because you're calmer. I would imagine you're not like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, something's gonna go wrong and the baby's gonna
Speaker 1: fall off a cliff. I mean that that that happens
Speaker 1: with your first child anyway, You got so what you are,
Speaker 1: You're always concerned, But after the worst, when you realize
Speaker 1: that they're more um, they're not going to break. Are
Speaker 1: you easier on your youngest son because my parents were
Speaker 1: wasier on me than they were my older brother. Well,
Speaker 1: my wife says I am, but myself, I think it's
Speaker 1: it's their personalities. They had nothing to do with um.
Speaker 1: I think it's just the personality we were. We're easy
Speaker 1: to we talk better than my oldest son, more open. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but also you know you're older, so maybe you also
Speaker 1: are more a little open minded, a little less stubborn.
Speaker 1: Stubbornness kind of tends to fade with age, it does. Um. Actually,
Speaker 1: my oldest son we don't get along that that much,
Speaker 1: because I explained to both of them it took with
Speaker 1: my With my youngest son, he adjusted, or he listens
Speaker 1: more than what the oldest one does. I mean, you
Speaker 1: can say things to the oldest one and he thinks
Speaker 1: that he knows everything. So when I say things to him,
Speaker 1: it goes right over his head. He thinks he knows everything.
Speaker 1: But it's a teenage You think it's a teenager attitude though,
Speaker 1: because I had that attitude too, or has he always
Speaker 1: been like that? I hope he grows out of it.
Speaker 1: But that's the way he is. You know, he'll he'll
Speaker 1: tell you he when when I'm explaining certain things to him,
Speaker 1: he he knows it already. Right, Maybe he's just a genius.
Speaker 1: Now what about the sex talk? Though? I feel like
Speaker 1: you're because you're such a responsible man. With sex and uh,
Speaker 1: and so I feel like the talk that you would
Speaker 1: give to your son would be like focused on condom,
Speaker 1: com condoms, condoms, condoms. Well, I mean, you know, you
Speaker 1: can't stop your children from having sex. You just want
Speaker 1: them to be responsible, you know, make sure you put
Speaker 1: on a condom, you know, and and and if you
Speaker 1: This is one thing I've always told him. I keep
Speaker 1: telling him, make sure that you don't get someone pregnant,
Speaker 1: because if you wind up getting somebody pregnant, you gotta
Speaker 1: deal with this person for the rest of your life.
Speaker 1: And make sure that this person is someone you want
Speaker 1: to deal with for the rest of your life, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, to have a baby with someone
Speaker 1: that you're very sure that you want to have a
Speaker 1: baby by. And don't let a woman. Don't let a
Speaker 1: woman choose, you know, determine if you're going to have
Speaker 1: a kid with her, not make you make sure as
Speaker 1: a man. Well, I mean, you know, group decision. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that don't work because when the woman, that ship don't work.
Speaker 1: When a woman decides she's gonna have a baby by you,
Speaker 1: and a damn thing, you can do a by it, well,
Speaker 1: you can have her well if you if you seck,
Speaker 1: if you're having sex with it, if she decides you're
Speaker 1: gonna be the one that you have kids with. Oh
Speaker 1: I've been that a mutual conversation that should be a
Speaker 1: mutual conversations. Not for you, I was gonna say. I
Speaker 1: was like, maybe there's some unresolved issues that are right now.
Speaker 1: It wasn't for me. Oh wow, that's that's interesting. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that. I mean, I guess I've heard of
Speaker 1: those situations before, but like a woman just going this
Speaker 1: is what's happening, like just because I get that, like
Speaker 1: with with with abortion, for example, if a it's a
Speaker 1: woman's body and if she wants to have one, I think, uh, there,
Speaker 1: every circumstance is so different. I don't think she has
Speaker 1: to go to the man. But like with having a baby,
Speaker 1: you want to make sure. I mean, especially when you're
Speaker 1: in a loving relationship, it's not just one night stand
Speaker 1: or something like. You want to give your partner heads up,
Speaker 1: make sure he's ready to you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But there was none, no talk of that. No, we
Speaker 1: talked about it. I just but did you and you
Speaker 1: said no? And then she was like yes, well it
Speaker 1: was it was like she had decided. One time she
Speaker 1: told me she didn't have kids. So I was all
Speaker 1: in it, you know. Yeah, And then next thing I know,
Speaker 1: I found out she was pregnant. But I did talk
Speaker 1: to We had a conversation. I said, listen, I'm not
Speaker 1: ready for kids at this point. You okay, what how
Speaker 1: old were you done? Like I knew her, like eighteen?
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no no. I wasn't eighteen.
Speaker 1: I'm saying for years. So then working backwards of your
Speaker 1: fifty four so, I mean I was eighteen years before
Speaker 1: before that, I was in my thirties. Yeah, but I'm
Speaker 1: saying I was like, you're only like, you know, thirty two.
Speaker 1: It wasn't that much. Yeah, it wasn't like you, but
Speaker 1: still I wasn't still personally you were ready, okay, And
Speaker 1: that's what she looked at me. What when was you
Speaker 1: planning to having kids? Right? I mean that's not how
Speaker 1: I just looked at yourself, I hear. Um. So, so
Speaker 1: then she told you was it after that conversation where
Speaker 1: she said, well, I can't have kids anyway, it's fine.
Speaker 1: Well I said that. I told him, I said, listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to have kids right now. You know, Um,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to do this business Thingum, these kids
Speaker 1: are not in a picture for me right now, you know.
Speaker 1: And I didn't want kids. You didn't want kids at all,
Speaker 1: know at that point, at that and I was actually
Speaker 1: trying to say that because I wasn't ready to have
Speaker 1: kids with her either. So I was gonna saying I
Speaker 1: was like, what came first, the fact that she was
Speaker 1: pertinent or the decision that you wanted to spend the
Speaker 1: rest of your life with her. Editors, No, let's not
Speaker 1: have your wife listen to this podcast with So. Do
Speaker 1: you have a good relationship do you? Guys? I mean
Speaker 1: we're cool? We cool? I mean because I did never
Speaker 1: want to do it. I never want to assume, right,
Speaker 1: I don't ever assume anything that's nosey of me. But
Speaker 1: I always really cool. Seemed a little unhappy with each other.
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I don't know how to say that
Speaker 1: in like a eighteen blissful years of we cool. Oh
Speaker 1: my dream, Tony, you are painting a picture for me?
Speaker 1: Is I mean? Do you need help? Do you want
Speaker 1: us to get you out? Do you need you need
Speaker 1: it out? You know, you can sleep on our couch
Speaker 1: let us know you in the middle of no, seriously,
Speaker 1: because that's not that's what I mean. That's I mean,
Speaker 1: I know she's right across. I feel like it's not cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is to have a kid when your partner, When
Speaker 1: your partner is like, I don't want to have kids
Speaker 1: right now, and then you're like, cool, I can't have
Speaker 1: kids anyway. And then all of a sudden she gives
Speaker 1: you the clear blue test with its stripes, and you're like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck are you so mad? So like this
Speaker 1: your eye I was twitching. You got a little twitched, dude.
Speaker 1: I think we need to make go fund me for
Speaker 1: a vacation for Tony Tony one ticket to a dude.
Speaker 1: That's that's Did you ever talk about that with her? Like? What, Tony?
Speaker 1: Your too chilly? Okay? So this is this is interesting
Speaker 1: because I see, like, like my dad, my dad, and
Speaker 1: you remind me of my dad. My dad just he
Speaker 1: works hard, he fucking respects people, like those are his
Speaker 1: two virtues, right, and he teaches his kids to fucking
Speaker 1: respect people. You vote and you respect people that, yeah,
Speaker 1: do be a good person, right, But sometimes I'll see
Speaker 1: my mom just walk all over him, and he just
Speaker 1: takes it and he really I always thought for the
Speaker 1: longest time he was going to explode one day, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't. Is that what you're going through? It? Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I love my kids, it's there was
Speaker 1: a missing missing persons. Okay, I'm let me tell you something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I grew up. I guess it has a lot to
Speaker 1: do with me growing up as in a single My
Speaker 1: mom raised me a single parents family, single family home.
Speaker 1: And and my father wasn't there. So, um, you know,
Speaker 1: I've always said I had kids, I'm o beating for them,
Speaker 1: you know. Um yeah, I mean, I mean, being noble
Speaker 1: doesn't always make you happy that you didn't choose to
Speaker 1: be noble, Like it wasn't like it wasn't a nobility.
Speaker 1: But I talked to my I talked to my kids.
Speaker 1: I say, you know, the boys, I talked much like
Speaker 1: go to the Hartward store, get a ladder at twelve
Speaker 1: o one tony. I mean, well, it's see a lot
Speaker 1: of people there. Honestly, I see a lot of people
Speaker 1: have a situation that seems a similar to yours. I
Speaker 1: like people. Yeah, no, but and it's always I've always wondered,
Speaker 1: like a lot of times in relationships with people, uh like,
Speaker 1: older than me. It. I see a lot of the
Speaker 1: times the woman just ships all over the dude and
Speaker 1: the guy just fucking takes it. And I hate to
Speaker 1: see that because I think it's relationship. You're a team.
Speaker 1: Supposed its supposed, it's supposed to be that way. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm not, I'm That's what I was hoping. I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying by no means, am I victim or
Speaker 1: that Tony get stopped recording this podcast kicking his apartment
Speaker 1: door like some it's about to change around here, wife, Nah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's never been about that. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm in a situation where, Um, it's not so
Speaker 1: that I'm not not happy or it's just you're not
Speaker 1: happy or happy. You're just you're just existing. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: that's you know. Sometimes I've said to her many times
Speaker 1: that you know, I shouldn't be here because of the kids.
Speaker 1: I supposed to be here because of you. Okay, I've
Speaker 1: said that, but you know that's true. And what if
Speaker 1: she said, because because sometimes kids, I mean, keeping some
Speaker 1: marriage for kids, it's like you're not really doing the
Speaker 1: kids any favor because you don't if you listen with
Speaker 1: well colled you with each other? Um, yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: like yelling. I mean we get fights just like anybody.
Speaker 1: But love me a good fight because I can get
Speaker 1: kind of crazy. So she knows when to stop. Hey,
Speaker 1: like egging you on? Does she do that thing? Where
Speaker 1: does she egg you on? Because she knows your buttons?
Speaker 1: She Spanish, so most Spanish women are they kind of
Speaker 1: crazy like that, you know, they can push your buttons.
Speaker 1: But she knows when to stop. That's good. So do
Speaker 1: you guys? Do you guys? And if you don't want
Speaker 1: answer this question, you don't have to. But do you
Speaker 1: guys have sex? Um? Recently? That just stopped recently? Just stopped. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to know more? And do it?
Speaker 1: Was that a conversation or just kept rejecting her? No,
Speaker 1: I just stopped. But but but she was she like, Tony,
Speaker 1: what she's going through menopause? You know? So and this
Speaker 1: is something that I was saying to myself. I said, damn,
Speaker 1: I stopped for like maybe two maybe a month, two
Speaker 1: months and this is recent. Yeah, maybe I stopped for
Speaker 1: a month two months and then um, it was like
Speaker 1: she said nothing about it, didn't bother. So, but did
Speaker 1: you did you stop having sex because of the menopause. No,
Speaker 1: it's not so much that. Um, when you can't, can't whisper,
Speaker 1: just get close, you get close to the microphone and
Speaker 1: talk softer, and I love I love sex, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. No, we got that and cheat. One
Speaker 1: day she made me feel bad because her mom's had
Speaker 1: passed away. Oh, she was in the hospital. A mom
Speaker 1: was in hospital actually dying, you know. And one day
Speaker 1: she said to me, she said, one day she said
Speaker 1: to me, she said, all you want to do is
Speaker 1: I'm dying. Okay, I'm a valid point. You know, I
Speaker 1: felt kind of guilty about sex. No, I just wanted
Speaker 1: to funk. That was yeh. She comes in crying from
Speaker 1: the hospital and they're like, hey, you look great, by
Speaker 1: the way, I said that to you today. Yet that
Speaker 1: hospital really smells good on you. Is that hospital? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that any person isn't going to
Speaker 1: be I mean usually of the step to want to
Speaker 1: have No, I realized that just what you wanted to
Speaker 1: doesn't mean But look, I you know I get it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not um insensitive to her feelings. What
Speaker 1: she was going through but like a few weeks the past,
Speaker 1: like obligations in a relationship that should be upheld, especially
Speaker 1: if it wasn't talked about. So I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: she came home one day. You know, I understand where
Speaker 1: he was at, but like some time had passed and yeah,
Speaker 1: I get hit off, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 1: that's when she said to me, are you wanna do it?
Speaker 1: So I looked at it like damn. It was such
Speaker 1: a turn off. And from that I was like, damn,
Speaker 1: she's not understanding my needs. But because you do have needs,
Speaker 1: like your mom is dying so slowly, how I considerate funny,
Speaker 1: dear God. But but you know what it was like, Um,
Speaker 1: we've had conversations in the past about you know, sex,
Speaker 1: and it's that and I think I'm more sexual than
Speaker 1: she is, and that happens a lot. At one time,
Speaker 1: I was being accused of going out here cheating and
Speaker 1: doing this and doing that. And at one time, and
Speaker 1: I'm one of these dudes who like, I can't I
Speaker 1: can't lie if you start asking me a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of questions and I'm gonna want I'm telling the truth
Speaker 1: for myself, you know what I mean? So I want
Speaker 1: up telling the truth for myself, you know. So, um,
Speaker 1: one day I had met this chick and we just
Speaker 1: started talking. You meet a lot of chicks, but we
Speaker 1: just we just charming. But look, we just started we
Speaker 1: just started talking, you know, just started talking. And one
Speaker 1: night I was going to meet her, right was I'm
Speaker 1: like talking on the side, like I was going to
Speaker 1: meet her. So, um, I'm walking out the building and
Speaker 1: and one of the guys upstairs, he was coming in
Speaker 1: the building. He looked at me. He shook his head.
Speaker 1: He said, now you're gonna get busted. I said, what
Speaker 1: how did he know? I have no clue. Whoa that is?
Speaker 1: What's a man's intuition, just like women have intuition. I guess, man,
Speaker 1: what's it? One of the douchebag dudes, Like he's a
Speaker 1: real nice guy, one of the nice guys in this building.
Speaker 1: And um, he said, Tony said, no, you wanna get caught?
Speaker 1: I said how? I said, how how can you tell?
Speaker 1: He said, you're going to meet some chick, right, I said,
Speaker 1: because you probably looked nicer than usual. No, it wasn't that.
Speaker 1: I mean, did you have some colonal But you know what,
Speaker 1: this this is what I think it is. And you
Speaker 1: tell me, do you think I looked like me? Do
Speaker 1: you think I know you're a teddy bear? No? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you if you came in with that like
Speaker 1: you're resting, uh face, correctional officer face. I do have
Speaker 1: a correction face. And most of the time, most of
Speaker 1: the time I think I have it on because yes,
Speaker 1: I don't see because I know you, so I just
Speaker 1: see like every time I see you know. But I
Speaker 1: think I had that that correction officer face on more
Speaker 1: than I realized. So when I was going out to
Speaker 1: meet this chick, he saw it and he said, yo, na, wait,
Speaker 1: were you like skipping and singing along? Maybe I was.
Speaker 1: It was a little animated bird flying around your head.
Speaker 1: It was. It was in the air. And even even
Speaker 1: when when I was, when I was we went on
Speaker 1: a couple of times with this woman. Did you end
Speaker 1: up going that time where the neighbor was like, don't
Speaker 1: do it. I'm guessing you did. You did you know
Speaker 1: your weakness? You told us before you still have wilt
Speaker 1: power something When we went out, it was we never
Speaker 1: got into anything, because like, does that mean you never fucked? Okay?
Speaker 1: But you said it was just more of like it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes it feels good to go out and feel alive
Speaker 1: and feel want so actually I wanted to fun, but
Speaker 1: she said no, No, it was me. You said no
Speaker 1: because you said I'm married and it's not right. Or
Speaker 1: when I met her. Right when I met her, I
Speaker 1: walked over to it and I told her when I
Speaker 1: remember this line that it wasn't a line, it was
Speaker 1: just something I made up. I can't hear this. I
Speaker 1: walked over to and I said, listen, I said, I
Speaker 1: wanted to come over in. I said, I've seen you
Speaker 1: in the neighbor this is like your I've been watching
Speaker 1: you for hours, so I see you around the neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Listen to the town house. Listen to the line. Listen
Speaker 1: to the listen to the line. Listen to the line. Listen. Okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead. I walked over to it and
Speaker 1: I said, listen, I've been seeing the neighbor for quite
Speaker 1: a while, and I want to walk over and introduce myself.
Speaker 1: My name is Tony, and she told me your name
Speaker 1: name is Michelle. So I said, um, but I got
Speaker 1: this little man on my shoulder and he said, don't
Speaker 1: do it, boy, and then said that out loud. He
Speaker 1: did what I said. That what I'm saying. The man
Speaker 1: on my shoulder that's part of it, told her, I said,
Speaker 1: I got a little man on my should original he said, yeah.
Speaker 1: I said, I got a little man and he said,
Speaker 1: don't do it. And then I told I got a
Speaker 1: little man on this show and he said, go ahead,
Speaker 1: talk to talk to So first Michelle knows, okay, Tony schizophrenics,
Speaker 1: a little naughty, mentally mentally unstable person, double homicide. But
Speaker 1: listen what she said to me. She said, um, she said.
Speaker 1: The first thing, she said, well, why is the guy
Speaker 1: over here telling me don't do it? I said, because
Speaker 1: I'm married and got two kids. And then I looked
Speaker 1: at her. I said, but every time I see you,
Speaker 1: you look like you can make me happy. So let
Speaker 1: me tell you break it off a little niceness. She
Speaker 1: actually bit it. She actually bit it. And you were
Speaker 1: like this dumb But I like you said, because even
Speaker 1: you're said, you know what you knew? But what I mean,
Speaker 1: I ate onlines but it was real though, it was
Speaker 1: real that I mean, yeah, you still felt that way. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we even wound up in a hotel. I didn't wow,
Speaker 1: why not? Because she said to me, she had a
Speaker 1: line of her own. Dude, she said, Um, we're laying
Speaker 1: in a whole town. And she said to me, she said, listen,
Speaker 1: she said where I come from, I'm the bitch. I
Speaker 1: remember the line for exactly what I said. I'm the
Speaker 1: bitch because I know you're married, she says, but I
Speaker 1: need time to get used to the idea of being
Speaker 1: the other woman. So when she said that to me,
Speaker 1: we just we just stayed there, talk the bed and
Speaker 1: you know, just chill, and then the phone side ringing
Speaker 1: hotel myself was it. Yeah, So like they were just
Speaker 1: pointing out Jordan saying her because she's so she goes,
Speaker 1: she goes. Um, she said, answer me, I said, women
Speaker 1: to say, you can hear the crickets in his motherucker,
Speaker 1: So what am I gonna say? So, And that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why. And this one she's like a detective,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm She's like, she I think she
Speaker 1: like me, I'm pretty Um, I'm pretty programmed. I mean,
Speaker 1: I gotta program the restaurant, this building, schedule, schedule to it,
Speaker 1: and it's easy to tell if you do something out
Speaker 1: of the schedule. So, um, we just sat there and
Speaker 1: we just talked, and then when the phone start rings,
Speaker 1: she said, answer, I said, you can hear crickets, and
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna say. Yeah, So we got into a
Speaker 1: big fight just that night. You know, when I came home,
Speaker 1: it was like maybe she knew four am. Yeah. Do
Speaker 1: you ever is that something that you've ever done before,
Speaker 1: just kind of walking out four am coming when I
Speaker 1: want to hear my fists in the air. Do you
Speaker 1: think that your wife has sexual needs that she wants
Speaker 1: met with other people too? Because like, what if you
Speaker 1: both wanted to bang other people, that's fine and then
Speaker 1: he just stayed married and other people. Listen, you can
Speaker 1: just have an agreement me say something right when, like,
Speaker 1: you know, I know that I can't just be the
Speaker 1: way I am now. I know I'm eventually venture out
Speaker 1: because I need I need to myself, you know. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, I know at some point I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: this conversation. And she thinks, I really think I've said
Speaker 1: this to her on a number of occasions. I said,
Speaker 1: you know, when I do decide to funk around, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be the first one I tell you, right, because
Speaker 1: I don't want to. In a Valentine's Day card, or Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with her. I mean, the thing
Speaker 1: is you. You You're that need. If it's not met
Speaker 1: for so like you you it's okay to get it met.
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get it. She's gonna want to
Speaker 1: separate or I don't know what she's gonna to do,
Speaker 1: but I know I'm gonna put it. I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: it to her where it's gonna be. Like, because you've
Speaker 1: had this conversation before, she knows where it's leading. I
Speaker 1: feel like she can tell that it's eventually gonna something,
Speaker 1: you know, Like I've had the conversation with her where
Speaker 1: I told her that you know, when I decide that
Speaker 1: I want to start seeing somebody else, you will be
Speaker 1: the first one I tell. And at some point I
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna want to start the venture out I
Speaker 1: must send I have a conversation with and telling to listen.
Speaker 1: You know I'm ready to start seeing other people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I mean, we got a family to raise. We
Speaker 1: still can raise our family and do what we need
Speaker 1: to do. Yeah. Do you think she is do you
Speaker 1: think she has actual needs? Are of her own? Like outside,
Speaker 1: I don't mean anywhere. Let me tell you something. I'm
Speaker 1: like this, if you and I together, if you're not
Speaker 1: treating me physically the way I need to be treated,
Speaker 1: don't go someplace else. You'll go someplace else. Well, but
Speaker 1: you'll talk about it that I'm not I'm not to
Speaker 1: go out, but I'm gonna let you know. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but you were in the whole tel room, you were
Speaker 1: you were almost ready to have sex talking about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at that time, because I will take your case. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying I'm better, no better than nobody, no
Speaker 1: other man, nothing like that. But at some point, you you,
Speaker 1: at some point you get a little resentful because of
Speaker 1: the relationship. It's not working, and you feel like they're
Speaker 1: keeping you from enjoying yourself. But you also have made
Speaker 1: up all these boundaries for you, Like you made up
Speaker 1: this rule for yourself that you have to stay married
Speaker 1: to be there for the kids. It's like you can
Speaker 1: still be there for your kids and not be in
Speaker 1: an unhappy relationship. Like it's like you. It's like you.
Speaker 1: It seems like you've set up this thing because of
Speaker 1: the way you grew up, that you're not holding yourself
Speaker 1: to me. Are you happy? It seems like no, is,
Speaker 1: it says, But I don't know. I mean I'm content, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm content. I mean I'm not I don't feel like
Speaker 1: I'm missing out on nothing. Well, no, because you're you're
Speaker 1: going on dates with the checks that well that that's
Speaker 1: the thing that's so interesting. Was that was a point
Speaker 1: where I just got frustrated with it all. No, I
Speaker 1: don't think anyone would listen to this and and and
Speaker 1: be mad or like you don't sound like a villain.
Speaker 1: It's such a human concerned for you. I don't also
Speaker 1: for your wife like you guys are even if you
Speaker 1: don't work together. I'm sure neither of you are like
Speaker 1: bad people. You just need to not be together and
Speaker 1: you need to flourish on separately. I remember asking my
Speaker 1: dad to separate from my mom when I was a
Speaker 1: kid because she was so depressed. Her depression was the
Speaker 1: point where she was yelling at him, being so mean,
Speaker 1: and I didn't grasp what it was at the at
Speaker 1: the times when I couldn't, I was just like, like, Dad,
Speaker 1: go be with somebody else, like be free, like you're
Speaker 1: not happy. And they separated for three years and he
Speaker 1: sent her poems and ship and and then they go
Speaker 1: back together and they're so happy. Sometimes sometimes that's what
Speaker 1: it takes, you know, sometimes, I mean with the other
Speaker 1: person realized that, you know, because men and women they
Speaker 1: both have needs. And yeah, that's why I'm like, a
Speaker 1: wondering person is not given to the other person, then
Speaker 1: generally one of them. Why going cheating? That's happens a
Speaker 1: lot of the times. Yeah, but it's good that you
Speaker 1: guys could talk at least talk about it a little
Speaker 1: right now. Is not a actor, It's not something that
Speaker 1: that's bothering me. It's not something I mean, I would
Speaker 1: I would love to be in love. It's a good
Speaker 1: once with, not with not your wife has she will
Speaker 1: tell you something. Let me tell you something. And I
Speaker 1: said this. You know how when men get together and
Speaker 1: they start talking, I always say that once they make
Speaker 1: like they make a man, I'm gonna make a woman responsible,
Speaker 1: totally responsible for having that child. Women will stop getting pregnant.
Speaker 1: Do you understand what I said? What I mean pregnancy
Speaker 1: meant the woman did everything. Look, look, let me say this.
Speaker 1: When a woman decides that she don't want to have
Speaker 1: a baby by you, she's gonna get pregnant. And when
Speaker 1: she when she sees a guy who she likes to
Speaker 1: just be physical with, and she knows I ain't having
Speaker 1: no kid about this dude, because she's responded possible, right.
Speaker 1: You know most women who say to themselves and then
Speaker 1: and it works the other way around too. Some women
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna have a baby by this dude because
Speaker 1: he can take care of my kids, right right, you understand,
Speaker 1: So she can walk into stability. I'm not saying her,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying in general, I'm staying. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know women who definitely got knocked up on by
Speaker 1: accident who didn't want it to happen, but they listen
Speaker 1: when women were most responsible. And when I say responsible
Speaker 1: people responsible woman When she says that I know I
Speaker 1: ain't having no kid by this dude, to think is good,
Speaker 1: but I don't have no kids, she don't get pregnant,
Speaker 1: unless I mean she doesn't want to get pregnant. You
Speaker 1: might get pregnant. I know people have gotten pregnant from
Speaker 1: one night stands listening, But what they make the decision
Speaker 1: to let me tell you something, My son was born
Speaker 1: and I was thirty six years old. That wasn't a chance.
Speaker 1: Why you think I didn't have any kids by any
Speaker 1: end of the other chicks, because I may, I may
Speaker 1: sure that we're not saying that you're we're not doubting
Speaker 1: what happened the circumstances in your thing. But I mean
Speaker 1: it's a big, big umbrella statement to say that all
Speaker 1: women do that, because I know women. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: all women do what I'm saying. But listen, most people,
Speaker 1: most people today are pretty responsible, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It depends. I mean, it depends with the education and
Speaker 1: the money circumstances. There's a lot of there's still a
Speaker 1: lot of funk ups and team pregnancy is going on
Speaker 1: for sure. I mean, it depends. It's by area. But
Speaker 1: do you think that your your wife saw in you
Speaker 1: responsibility and that's why she made that decision? Maybe? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: Tony Tones, she wanted to get she wanted to get
Speaker 1: you forever and ever and let's get firm and here
Speaker 1: you are wanted to be happy. No matter what you do,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be your special ship happen. So we have
Speaker 1: to wrap up. Is there anything else you want to
Speaker 1: add and you want to talk about real quick, or
Speaker 1: you want to say or we can't find you on
Speaker 1: social media, that's usually sometimes when we have guests that
Speaker 1: are comics, we plugged their social media and stuff or shows.
Speaker 1: Yeah you have any apartments? I do need that drawer something. No,
Speaker 1: you're great. I really it's cool to have a neighbor
Speaker 1: that like you just really like, like I like. And
Speaker 1: a lot of people in this building are cool. But
Speaker 1: I've been in this in this building for like eight years,
Speaker 1: eight years probably, and it's cool because you're you guys
Speaker 1: are my closest neighbor right across the hall. I got
Speaker 1: neighbors like the guy Acrouse from here, one of his roommates.
Speaker 1: He walks in, he sees me. He don't say shit,
Speaker 1: but I'm cool with it. I don't give a ship.
Speaker 1: Why is he scared? He thinks you're gonna have no
Speaker 1: I have no idea me and evolved. The guy we
Speaker 1: were standing in the hallway talking. He walked by, and
Speaker 1: I know you saw me. I saw him, and I'm friendly.
Speaker 1: I speak to everybody. My wife she gets upset when
Speaker 1: when she speaks to someone and they don't speak back.
Speaker 1: To that, I said, listen, maybe the person had a
Speaker 1: bad day, you know, maybe they didn't even see you.
Speaker 1: Maybe their mind when you do it more than once
Speaker 1: or twice. You know what I'm saying that, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: like liberally ignoring me. But see if it happens once
Speaker 1: maybe twice, so she don't she wouldn't say to say
Speaker 1: nothing else to you. Yeah, then you're yeah, that's but
Speaker 1: women are like that minute. Oh yeah, I have a
Speaker 1: very long shot lesson of people who will never get
Speaker 1: anything from you ever. Yeah, and that if everyone thinks.
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly, I know it's very long, and
Speaker 1: it's consistently being updated. I like everybody. Well, now that's something. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, Tony for coming on talking and
Speaker 1: shooting the ship. You're the way. I've heard your legend.
Speaker 1: I've heard you're great. Yeah, so great. I got I
Speaker 1: got a friend he does something like this, but he
Speaker 1: does it on and look at the top podcast. What
Speaker 1: does he does one of them? Um? Emp, I forget
Speaker 1: what the channel says. But it's one of these cable
Speaker 1: stations like Manhattan, like a public access like Wayne's, only
Speaker 1: much worse. His name is Bruce White, um, and he
Speaker 1: does it out of his home. Sounds terrifying. This dude.
Speaker 1: He talks so much ship at one time, and sometimes
Speaker 1: he talks yeah, he talks crazy ship with the first
Speaker 1: show you had. My mom listened to right and he
Speaker 1: was talking about washing your ass. He actually washing your ass.
Speaker 1: He says, if you don't get up in there, you
Speaker 1: ain't really washing your ass, you know what. I actually
Speaker 1: agree with him on that. And then and then I
Speaker 1: get up and get up in there. That's why all
Speaker 1: the babes are flocking to you. That looks like he
Speaker 1: got clean love me. I got clean ass, you know.
Speaker 1: And we've come full circle. Okay, everyone, thank you so much, Tony.
Speaker 1: I was just warming up to it. You were great.
Speaker 1: You were great. Thank you so much for being a podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm so excited that we got to have you. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, this has been guys. We sucked the anti
Speaker 1: sluch An podcast and we really hope that she's not
Speaker 1: out there talking next week. By we're gonna get to work.
Speaker 1: You're gonna find a turf froment amount of hearts in
Speaker 1: the street full of shadiness. Never finds the worst this
Speaker 1: night to the dark line. They find out of work
Speaker 1: right to try to disperse and climb at the climate.
Speaker 1: At the first I feel the burdens purposes post work
Speaker 1: and I hate sermons. First then my person is searching
Speaker 1: the hat to preach. They'll do the papers and tree smoke,
Speaker 1: motive based sleek, the only one way that seems so.
Speaker 1: It's post lonely at the top and then the bottom
Speaker 1: too too. Whatever you believe in in this product, you
Speaker 1: all want, you deceive, and it's probably you you foundering
Speaker 1: honestly chasing this gaming, because that's what I gotta do
Speaker 1: on bunding back out a bull out school like the
Speaker 1: lot of though there's a slim chance they breaking me
Speaker 1: down on wars out there, honor. We're bull improvements and
Speaker 1: gotta do this a movement. I gotta move in as
Speaker 1: soon as I do with these motherfucker's will a lot
Speaker 1: of you you and don't I know and don not
Speaker 1: and don't I know? The truth hurts, But the lives
Speaker 1: worse for all love grown and all have shown is
Speaker 1: to feel alone at its seventh stone, let it go,
Speaker 1: and don't I know and don not and don I
Speaker 1: know the true hearts, but the lives worse for all
Speaker 1: live grown and all lives shown to feel alone at
Speaker 1: its seventh stone that exhausts soon. I'm kind of decent,
Speaker 1: hoping I'm not reaching open and scoping out all the regions,
Speaker 1: to speaking strategic no, no, don't. I felt defeated at
Speaker 1: most is the bleeding, It a quotestion, the feeling, leaving
Speaker 1: me numb to the dealings.