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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up boys? Hey Dan? Happy Friday? St.
Speaker 1: Patty's Happy St. Patrick's deck. Who has Irish heritage in
Speaker 1: this room? I do? I do as well? Very nice? Greg? No? No,
Speaker 1: said Rosenthal. Sound like a Jewish I mean Irish name there. Well,
Speaker 1: my name is not Irish heritage. The the Walsh and
Speaker 1: the Walsh's and the Currents are from Dublin. That's in
Speaker 1: my heritage. There's a the Finnigan's also. I got this
Speaker 1: from my mom this morning from County Sligo. I've been
Speaker 1: to County Slag There you got Humble Bregg. That's a
Speaker 1: straight crack. So you got a lot Irish blood in here.
Speaker 1: And Greg, you are you're with us today? What do
Speaker 1: they call it? By proxy? And irishman by proxy? Oh? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well I grew up in a town that was about
Speaker 1: Irish Catholic, so I feel like I am I am
Speaker 1: Irish just by proxy. Well feel that way about you,
Speaker 1: But that that's how you feel about yourself. A lot
Speaker 1: of good. The entire city now drinking green beer, and
Speaker 1: we're in here discussing football in March, and everyone else
Speaker 1: is discussing college everyone's discussing college basketball and drinking. We're
Speaker 1: not drinking and talking about football. Way to be on point.
Speaker 1: We are connected speaking of on point? Do we want?
Speaker 1: I mean, and we want to talk about you know,
Speaker 1: management to Shadowy League figures, they threw a thank you
Speaker 1: to the around to the podcast of all the NFL,
Speaker 1: and there was one person conspicuously absent. And I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say it's the person that's only Irish by proxy. That's right.
Speaker 1: My wife had planned that night, so I watched our
Speaker 1: children much in advantage. We don't need to get into it,
Speaker 1: but I think that I think it was noticed, uh
Speaker 1: by a number of people that you know, the three
Speaker 1: of us took time to go. We were very thankful
Speaker 1: to management for throwing the party. Number one, let's start
Speaker 1: right there. Greg. It's on the way home. For Greg,
Speaker 1: he could have pulled the car over. No one was here.
Speaker 1: Still you you could have pulled the car for for
Speaker 1: two minutes, walked in and just said hi here, I
Speaker 1: am wave and leave, but it was nope, gotta go right,
Speaker 1: you know, can't give not a second of time for
Speaker 1: these can I just read the email that was sent
Speaker 1: to everyone that's involved, both people that are in the studio,
Speaker 1: people behind the glass like Sydney Sully goes wonderful and
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Speaker 1: and move the sticks to make peace. Funny bit there, Um,
Speaker 1: that's not happening anytime soon. Look out its NFL network
Speaker 1: that maybe if Greg would have came to the bar,
Speaker 1: it would have sounded like that as Mattie Zicks talented
Speaker 1: NFL media contributor. Yeah he did the voice work as well. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So Greg, before we move on and get into the show,
Speaker 1: an official state this. Um, I mean, I have no regrets.
Speaker 1: I had. I had to watch watch my children. There
Speaker 1: are these two younger, younger people mark like they want
Speaker 1: to you know, while I was home with them. They're
Speaker 1: they're they're at home. Where is daddy? You know, sometimes
Speaker 1: you have to put your offspring second is daddy ever
Speaker 1: coming back? Well, there's an open bar involved. That would
Speaker 1: be a very clear time to do that. Who is
Speaker 1: my dad? All right? So that's hanging in the air,
Speaker 1: by the way. Then the subject line in the air.
Speaker 1: The subject line of that email was NFL podcast team
Speaker 1: thank you. Greg said thank you in his own way,
Speaker 1: in a very specific Greg like way, like NFL podcast
Speaker 1: f you. That's much closer to the reality. I know
Speaker 1: how they can There's one clear way to look at me.
Speaker 1: I'm a parent. Yeah, we get it. No, they want
Speaker 1: to thank us. There's one way some dollar bills? Well
Speaker 1: how about this? How about this angle? Greg is again
Speaker 1: positioning himself as NFL Networks, not realizing the truth. Thank
Speaker 1: you very much here with NFL dot COM's Greg dot
Speaker 1: com dot com dot com still one of us until
Speaker 1: it's officially I am this whole room and forgotten all
Speaker 1: about it until about an hour before. And at that
Speaker 1: point it's too late to change moves. My wife had plans.
Speaker 1: You're irish today and you're still with NFL dot com.
Speaker 1: All right. Today's show is a good one. Very excited.
Speaker 1: We got the news, of course, um free agency into
Speaker 1: the second week now and there there's been some moves,
Speaker 1: you know, in the secondary level, but be mindus stories
Speaker 1: to get to. But that's solid news. I'll be much
Speaker 1: better than a couple of six weeks from now. I
Speaker 1: like how you equate. You give the same grade to
Speaker 1: underwhelming news as you give to our podcast on on
Speaker 1: a regular basis. Between the lines, you don't even have
Speaker 1: to not even between uh and then and then? Can
Speaker 1: we get a little timpany drum for this? Yes, the
Speaker 1: return one of the all time favorite segments of the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast. You know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: You're the GM. It's back now, Greg Bone this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you if you're a fan of the show last
Speaker 1: March we played we'll get into it. But you're the GM.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do a little role playing later in the show.
Speaker 1: But let's get into it. Let's get into news and
Speaker 1: uh sid uh we have something to talk to you
Speaker 1: about a little bit later as well, but I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna holster that for now. Let's do some news.
Speaker 1: Happy St. Patrick's day. Everybody was that? Another noted Irishman,
Speaker 1: Dave Damask. Yeah, most irishman I know. Yeah. Uh, let's
Speaker 1: start in Oakland, where Latavia's Murray Uh is not coming back,
Speaker 1: and we'll get to that in a in a second.
Speaker 1: He's he has a new home and Adrian Peterson is
Speaker 1: still out there. But the Raiders haven't shown a lot
Speaker 1: of interest. Well, maybe they're gonna look at somebody else,
Speaker 1: somebody a little bit off the radar, but hard to forget.
Speaker 1: The Raiders, according to Ian Rappaport, have looked at Marshaw
Speaker 1: and Lynch as a potential option to join the team.
Speaker 1: In Lynch, who spent the season out of football, retired.
Speaker 1: Uh didn't show any hints that he wanted to come
Speaker 1: back and play. Kgmz FM and San Francisco first reported
Speaker 1: this development. Lynch turns thirty one in a month, and um, West,
Speaker 1: is this I mean, is this the type of fodder
Speaker 1: that lands on our doorsteps at March seventeen? Should we
Speaker 1: take this seriously at all? I'm a little bit torn
Speaker 1: on it. I'm skeptical that it's a good idea. First
Speaker 1: of all, because last time we saw Marshawn Lynch, he
Speaker 1: was injuries had waylaid him for half the season and
Speaker 1: he was outplayed by Thomas Rawls and the other half
Speaker 1: of the season. If you want an aging running back,
Speaker 1: why not get one who's hyper motivated like Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: rather than one who is deciding whether he still has
Speaker 1: the itch to play foot ball, like Marshawn Lynch. So
Speaker 1: I'm just here, but he is, he's from that area.
Speaker 1: He's from Hype, right, Yeah. I think it feel it
Speaker 1: feels has the makings almost of a pr move because
Speaker 1: he's so Bay Area based that it's it just makes
Speaker 1: sense from a Raider's angle to have that guy on
Speaker 1: your team if he were still around. But it tells
Speaker 1: you so much about Adrian Peterson's market on some level.
Speaker 1: Why are we pulling this guy back into the league. Well,
Speaker 1: Lynch is mulling the idea. According to Mike Garret Folo,
Speaker 1: you know, he's in shape, he's getting in shape. He
Speaker 1: was hanging around. We saw him a decent amount last year,
Speaker 1: considering he was not in the NFL. He's just kind
Speaker 1: of hanging out with the Seahawks. After the season, he
Speaker 1: was like on the sidelines and whatnot. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the thing left unseat so far as the Seahawks still
Speaker 1: have him, have his rights, So would the Raiders really
Speaker 1: want to give up something to get Marshall Lynch. Maybe
Speaker 1: Seattle likes lynching up. They would just let him go.
Speaker 1: There is suddenly nothing. There is some some talk out
Speaker 1: there that they would be more likely to release him
Speaker 1: than trade him. At this point, what are they gonna
Speaker 1: They're not gonna gonna get. You're gonna get like a
Speaker 1: conditional six round pick. It's better than him never playing again.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine he would fetch much. Maybe this will
Speaker 1: be an or he is a year younger than Adrian
Speaker 1: Peterson and just had the year off. It wasn't he
Speaker 1: wasn't like recovering from injury. Well, he wasn't recovering from
Speaker 1: injury necessarily. I guess you could make you can make
Speaker 1: the case be fun. I'd love to see this, wouldn't you.
Speaker 1: They can. They certainly can use an early down back.
Speaker 1: I just think it's there's a lot of good backs
Speaker 1: in the draft too. It's a strange always a little
Speaker 1: leery of team signing players for PR reasons or for
Speaker 1: regional or geoge appeal. And he is Oakland to the bone.
Speaker 1: If you remember the shelved bio pick Uh was about
Speaker 1: his life growing up in Oakland. It was so disastrous
Speaker 1: that they hit it the way that Jerry Lewis hid
Speaker 1: The Day the Clowns Cried movie. It was that type
Speaker 1: of situation. I would love to watch them. Rare that
Speaker 1: Dan goes with a reference to old even for West.
Speaker 1: I have a question about bio Yeah, Mark, wasn't there
Speaker 1: a time in the eighties or nineties where it was
Speaker 1: always pronounced biopic? I believe you're right, Sudden, Remember when
Speaker 1: Gutsy turned into Gutty? When did this happen here? Well?
Speaker 1: I think which in general is floating away, So I
Speaker 1: think biopic where is better though than biopics. I'm much
Speaker 1: preferred biopic The David Clown Crime And we're gonna break
Speaker 1: into that seventy two American drama film directed by and
Speaker 1: starring Jerry Lewis. How did that get on your radar?
Speaker 1: Jerry Lewis is a comedianst film Holocaust film where he
Speaker 1: played a clown. Sounds like a terrible idea, Well exactly Now,
Speaker 1: I'm putting Marshawn Lynch's movie a little bit ahead of that,
Speaker 1: but they're equally hidden away from Society's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Along with the Joe Flacco plays Johnny Unitus biopic, I
Speaker 1: want to see that thing float to the surface and
Speaker 1: other Raiders news. Jared Cook finds a home. Uh Cook
Speaker 1: who really bargained himself with him and his age and
Speaker 1: out of a perfect spot in green Bay ended up
Speaker 1: on the street when green Bay went and got Marty
Speaker 1: Bennett and head well, he lands on his feet. He
Speaker 1: signs a two years, twelve point two million dollar deal,
Speaker 1: according to rap sheet with the Raiders. The Raiders later
Speaker 1: confirmed the deal. Cook had also drawn interest from the
Speaker 1: Seahawks and the Vikings, but he decides to go to Oakland.
Speaker 1: He's gonna turn thirty next month, Mark Sessler, And this
Speaker 1: was definitely on my radar that he might have really
Speaker 1: blown a golden opportunity to make his career, uh, really
Speaker 1: get his career set up for a nice back end run.
Speaker 1: But landing with Derek Carr that's a nice spot too.
Speaker 1: It is I he's on my radar for the fact
Speaker 1: that he's already talking about trying to pay Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: for the number eighty nine Jersey. Is anyone really care
Speaker 1: or even know what number Jared Cook is? Please? Number
Speaker 1: one number? That is kind of tiresome into That's the
Speaker 1: trope of the off season. Two like I'll pony up
Speaker 1: what it takes to get their dirty you know, come
Speaker 1: back to its slow down and the number two things.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's another terrible day for our ill fated
Speaker 1: Making the Leap series. Clive Walford was last year's high
Speaker 1: flying Make the Leap guy and they you know, what
Speaker 1: does it say about him when you're going out and
Speaker 1: says he's too slow? Ye, he's flying out of relevance.
Speaker 1: Is what's happening now? These agents that blow it for
Speaker 1: their contract. It's like if a player does that poorly,
Speaker 1: they get ripped for and maybe they do by other
Speaker 1: ages a much better deal than he got last year.
Speaker 1: He there's a lot of incentives they have not put
Speaker 1: out the the I suspect that the base salary, even
Speaker 1: if he got every incentive, he's getting less money than
Speaker 1: the Packers offered him per year. And I suspect there's
Speaker 1: a ton of incentives. He's getting significantly less for a
Speaker 1: place that he probably would have rather not have played.
Speaker 1: The guy cost the money with an amateurish move. What
Speaker 1: did it was he went to the media and leaked
Speaker 1: this whole thing that they've broken off negotiations, and there
Speaker 1: was a report that went out there last Friday. Cook
Speaker 1: and the Packers have broken off negotiations, so they leaked that.
Speaker 1: The Packers saw that Ted Thompson this reportings in Milwaukee.
Speaker 1: Jordan's son, Ted Thompson saw that and was basically just
Speaker 1: screw these amateurs, called up Martellis Bennett and had a
Speaker 1: deal done in thirty minutes and cost Yared Cook millions
Speaker 1: of dollars. Ted Thomas don't play like you don't. You
Speaker 1: don't play that game with him. He so, he he doesn't.
Speaker 1: Usually he's not that active this time of year. He
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna get involved with games like that. But it
Speaker 1: could have been a lot worse. He could have been
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. He could have gotten way less money than
Speaker 1: even this, all things considered, good, you've really piste off
Speaker 1: Ted Thompson when you're making him get active in free agencies. UH.
Speaker 1: In other UH former Raiders news, Latavius Murray as a
Speaker 1: new home it is Minnesota with the Vikings. The team
Speaker 1: announced Wednesday night that they have signed the running back
Speaker 1: who rushed for almost eight hundred yards in a career
Speaker 1: high twelve touchdowns on nine carries last season in Oakland
Speaker 1: is a three year deal worth fifteen million, according to
Speaker 1: rap Sheet and UH that led officially to the end
Speaker 1: of Adrian Peterson's UH Incredible career in Minnesota. The team
Speaker 1: later said that UH Peterson will not be back in
Speaker 1: Minnesota West. Your thoughts on the idea of Ottavious Murray
Speaker 1: UH one replacing another twenty eight Adrian Peterson. Going from
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson to the Destitute Man's Adrian Peterson is more
Speaker 1: depressing than going from Jay Cutler to Mike Glennon. It's like,
Speaker 1: it's like when the band's trying to get together and
Speaker 1: you can get the whole band except the lead singer.
Speaker 1: That's what you're doing when you're replacing Adrian Peterson. Sticks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: couldn't you use any band there? Any band? Why not?
Speaker 1: Of course? Of course I would have went Journey or
Speaker 1: it's like a more prominent lead singer for the band,
Speaker 1: said Getty Lee, and I don't know. No, isn't that rush? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. Yeah, A lot of people believe that the worst.
Speaker 1: A lot of people believe that Paul McCartney died in
Speaker 1: the late sixties, so you could go Beatles. You if
Speaker 1: you subscribe to the ore pop culture references are inching
Speaker 1: up decade by decade. I see the Beatles a little
Speaker 1: more relevant than Sticks and Rent than Journey. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just a dad Paul McCartney, you know, still in the mix.
Speaker 1: So you have a lot to explain. Not according to
Speaker 1: some theories, right, but there's a lot of holes in
Speaker 1: those theories, including you know, all of the millions of
Speaker 1: sightings and recordings he's made in the last not according
Speaker 1: to some of the theories. Dennis de Young is the
Speaker 1: lead singer of Sticks. Mr Rob This by the very curious,
Speaker 1: very curious. It's a great draft for running back. Slatavius
Speaker 1: Murray to me, is not an exciting starting running back.
Speaker 1: He's exactly the type of running back that I think
Speaker 1: the Raiders smartly believed. Let's let's upgrade like he was
Speaker 1: fine for us. We've got a couple other young guys,
Speaker 1: but let's let's find someone in the draft. It's a
Speaker 1: little more exciting than our sixth round pick from four
Speaker 1: years ago that worked out pretty well. I mean very
Speaker 1: well for a sixth round pick. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: kind of like a C minus starting running back. You
Speaker 1: don't need to spend them that really excited about Minnesota
Speaker 1: Vikings well, I think it's safe to say we're not
Speaker 1: cycling back around to Minnesota for team of a t L.
Speaker 1: Most likely no would be my guests. That was there,
Speaker 1: that was their high point. The Giants moving on. The
Speaker 1: New York Giants are doing uh some business. They are
Speaker 1: expected to hop on the Gino coaster. Well, why don't
Speaker 1: we doing Giants the According to the NFL Network inside
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaboord, the Giants are expected to sign Gino on
Speaker 1: Monday after he undergoes a physical. Uh. He will likely
Speaker 1: be brought in as training camp competition. Gino after for
Speaker 1: you know, ultimately forgettable years or maybe unforgettable years with
Speaker 1: the New York Jets. Uh is coming off at torn
Speaker 1: A c L. He's twenty six years old, Greg a
Speaker 1: longtime favorite of yours. Another making the lead candidate, which
Speaker 1: is outrageous. Uh, but now he did finish off that
Speaker 1: two thousand and fourteen season strong good still, so now
Speaker 1: he has a haven't seen him since then. He has
Speaker 1: a chance to be Eli's backup, which may not be
Speaker 1: a great prize to win that job because Eli has
Speaker 1: never missed a game in his life. Well, he's coming
Speaker 1: off a tourn a c L, so I think it's
Speaker 1: just good for him to land a good backup job.
Speaker 1: At this point, it's not a bad spot for him.
Speaker 1: And wouldn't it be a Jets You know, you gotta admit,
Speaker 1: wouldn't it be a Jets thing if Gina Smith started,
Speaker 1: you know, Eli got hurt or something, and Gino actually
Speaker 1: looks kind of good with the New York Giants. You're
Speaker 1: you're lossing over the part where Gino Smith is an
Speaker 1: awful quarterback. We're still here. We never got fast this Greg,
Speaker 1: you still believe in the like there are a lot
Speaker 1: of things I fear I don't. I don't believe he's
Speaker 1: a great I don't believe he's a great quarterback. I
Speaker 1: think what he showed in his first couple of years,
Speaker 1: include especially those labs that was last handful of starts,
Speaker 1: proved he is as good, if not better than a
Speaker 1: lot of backups in the league. And this is him
Speaker 1: as a young quarterback. I think he's a He's a
Speaker 1: good pickup as a back. There were whispers that he
Speaker 1: was going to go to Cleveland potentially. Nothing in this
Speaker 1: entire offseason brought me more peace and calm than the
Speaker 1: fact that he will not and is not you know Smith,
Speaker 1: Gino Smith, rock Oswiler competition is talcalyptic SCEA. Isn't part
Speaker 1: of being a good backup quarterback not being such a
Speaker 1: irritating personality that you're like nails on a chalkboard to
Speaker 1: your whole locker room, right? I mean that if all
Speaker 1: of that is true, obviously that's like the biggest red
Speaker 1: flag with Gina. But there's a lot of quarterbacks I
Speaker 1: suspect that are out there. You don't believe those theories either. No,
Speaker 1: that that are jerks that people don't like and none
Speaker 1: of us know. And I think Gino has probably taking
Speaker 1: a disproportionate amount of criticism. You know, it was good
Speaker 1: news from nish Metta gets to drop a few more
Speaker 1: bombs over the New York daalely news on on Gino
Speaker 1: Smith's body. I mean, if you thought Gino was unprofessional,
Speaker 1: read those columns. Wow, whoa WHOA Ryan Costello gets into Venetia.
Speaker 1: Now Greg coming out, I'm not getting I like, I
Speaker 1: like Moniche, but he it's a little personal with him
Speaker 1: in Gina. It's a little much. There was a Mo
Speaker 1: Wilkerson's column my Stello references he's a beat writer for
Speaker 1: the New York Post. After Manie drops the Geno bomb,
Speaker 1: he writes another colum eviscerating Bill Wilkerson for looking fat
Speaker 1: at the Temple pre day, which sparked a little a
Speaker 1: lot of fun, a lot of fun. Uh. Moving on, Oh,
Speaker 1: j pp, he's got a new deal with the Giants.
Speaker 1: How about that? He did it? The guy freaking blew
Speaker 1: his handoff with fireworks and lived to tell the tale
Speaker 1: as an NFL player lived period jpp. Um this according
Speaker 1: to raps you again on Friday, they've agreed to terms
Speaker 1: with their star pass rusher in a four year contract. Uh.
Speaker 1: Financial terms related to the deal are still being finalized. Um,
Speaker 1: but Mark Pierre Paul showed last year that he still
Speaker 1: had something in the tank before he went down with
Speaker 1: that sports hernia injury. Still just twenty eight years old, um,
Speaker 1: missing fingers, but still can get to a quarterback? Is he?
Speaker 1: Is he going to be the same guy he was
Speaker 1: before the injury? We don't know, but the Giants are
Speaker 1: willing to invest and find out. They must, They must
Speaker 1: think that potential is very real. It's funny that the
Speaker 1: last offseason when we played that you know You're the
Speaker 1: GM game, A lot of Jets talk centered around how
Speaker 1: they had almost an excess of riches along their defensive line,
Speaker 1: and really it's the strength of the Giants right now.
Speaker 1: You've got Jpp, You've got Snacks Harrison, you've got Olivier
Speaker 1: Vernon Great? Great, uh great? What's this We've got? Who's
Speaker 1: on the terms? Numbers? Listeners love terms of contracts, read
Speaker 1: them off West. JPP signed a four year contract. We're
Speaker 1: sixty two million base up to sixty six million with
Speaker 1: forty million guaranteed. Hey, good for him. Is the most
Speaker 1: guaranteed money from it. I think they need to have
Speaker 1: Their defense has to be the strength that team. If
Speaker 1: if we're going to get the same version of Eli
Speaker 1: Manning we got first, that's awesome. That's an awesome trio
Speaker 1: of starting defense lineman still in their primes. They're making
Speaker 1: a lot of money, but whatever, like they have kind
Speaker 1: of rebuilt that defensive line dominance they had during their
Speaker 1: championship run. And I think he was as good last year.
Speaker 1: Really he had that one year was when he was
Speaker 1: just insane, but other than that, last season was right
Speaker 1: there with any of his pre fireworks accident years, if
Speaker 1: not better. Dan, were you impressed with how West, and
Speaker 1: I handled that breaking news strip right there, a little sloppy,
Speaker 1: but you know, I think you also. West did a
Speaker 1: great job digging it out. And then there was a
Speaker 1: little bit of hesitation. It wasn't smooth, but it was affected.
Speaker 1: West handled it very well. I botched it almost entirely. Look,
Speaker 1: this is not our normal rule. We just we need
Speaker 1: more reps. Absolutely, it's a it's a reps situation. Um
Speaker 1: all right. Meanwhile, on the throne of sleeves, I say,
Speaker 1: we trust the just so stupid? How great? When is
Speaker 1: happening there? Exactly? The Aliens are arriving. So the Aliens
Speaker 1: arrive another Yes, they they get on their speaker system.
Speaker 1: That puts me way out of the north. They get
Speaker 1: on their speaker system. They let the people of Foxborough
Speaker 1: know we're here, not as a threat to be um,
Speaker 1: to work with you, to learn with you, to create
Speaker 1: a better universe. Everyone down on the ground takes them
Speaker 1: at their word. And then they just fry them all.
Speaker 1: They gain the trust of the people of New England
Speaker 1: and then they make New England go away. Maki of Alien.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm thankful they got the fifth Super Bowl
Speaker 1: title before the Aliens arrive. Well, that might be the
Speaker 1: only thing that survives the the attack, just molten lava
Speaker 1: of silver from the Lombardi trophies. Anyway, I haven't gotten
Speaker 1: to play that a while because the Patriots only great
Speaker 1: things happened to them. But the New Orleans Saints spent
Speaker 1: Thursday courting restricted free agent Malcolm Butler. The gathering came
Speaker 1: and went without a deal for the Pat's cornerback, but
Speaker 1: New Orleans coach uh Sean Payton made a clear Friday
Speaker 1: he was impressed with the twenty seven year old. Peyton
Speaker 1: said he's a sharp, sharp kid. Rap Sheet reported Thursday
Speaker 1: at the meeting went quote very well, leaving leaving both
Speaker 1: sides quote motivated to get a deal done for Butler,
Speaker 1: who was tagged by New England with the first round tender. Greg,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't. I can't get on New England.
Speaker 1: They're doing everything right this offseason, but this is the
Speaker 1: one thing where you could fairly question how they're handing
Speaker 1: with this, given how great Butler has been and and
Speaker 1: the fact that you know, he's a hero and he's
Speaker 1: young and effective. I want to see how it ends
Speaker 1: because the whole process confuses me. The reporting around it
Speaker 1: is that okay, like it's moving in that direction, but
Speaker 1: it's long process and it's complicated. And I hear that
Speaker 1: and I and I'm thinking, does that just mean the
Speaker 1: Patriots are gonna sign him to a contract that the
Speaker 1: Saints sort of negotiate for him? Like? Or what's what's
Speaker 1: so complicated? What do they getting? You know, it's been
Speaker 1: hanging out there for a while, and the longer it
Speaker 1: hangs out there, the more I think maybe maybe it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. Bigger question, what what happens to the Malcolm
Speaker 1: Butler biopic? Suddenly it ends with him going to the Saints.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a strange movie. What about the Malcolm
Speaker 1: Butler biopic? That's a totally different deal that seems promising. Dan,
Speaker 1: you asked yesterday in the newsroom why the Patriots prefer
Speaker 1: Stephon Gilmore to Malcolm Butler? And I think anytime you
Speaker 1: can't understand the Patriots movie, you have to kind of
Speaker 1: put yourself in Belichick's mind, which is a weird place
Speaker 1: to be. But he looked back over the past couple
Speaker 1: of years, Malcolm Butler has played great, But what do
Speaker 1: the Patriots do when they face a dominant X receiver.
Speaker 1: They play Logan Ryan on him with the safety over
Speaker 1: the top and Malcolm Butler cover you're Antonio Browns and
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton's, but he's not covering Julio Jones or
Speaker 1: A J. Green or any of those guys. So if
Speaker 1: you're Belichick, I'm guessing he thinks Stephan Gilmore can cover
Speaker 1: those guys and allow me to get more creative or
Speaker 1: not allocate as many resources to that situation. About Butler's
Speaker 1: a smaller cornerback, and that's sort of what's charming about him,
Speaker 1: is he plays so physical and he doesn't care about
Speaker 1: his size. They clearly believe Stefan Gilmore is a more
Speaker 1: talented complete cornerback because they never offered, by according of
Speaker 1: the reports, a contract to Butler anywhere near what Gilmore
Speaker 1: got because Butler would have taken it. So Butler's kind of,
Speaker 1: you know, you can hardly blame him for like it's
Speaker 1: pride his wounded I find myself, I'm amazed that he's
Speaker 1: like trying to convince himself to stay in New and
Speaker 1: like the reports are like he wanted to go and
Speaker 1: see if New Orleans was actually comfortable, because he act
Speaker 1: he was thinking maybe I'll just sign the restricted tender
Speaker 1: and play one more year in New England. I I
Speaker 1: cannot help be so thoroughly exhausted and fed up with
Speaker 1: the Patriots in the middle of March. They're keeping us busy,
Speaker 1: They're in the middle of news. I know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I am so tired of this team. Do you want
Speaker 1: to west? You were curious what's going on? And uh what?
Speaker 1: What are you tired of? Many things, but really very
Speaker 1: high on my list? What did I was just I
Speaker 1: just want to let you know you were saying, you know,
Speaker 1: it's weird what's going on in Bill Belichick's mind? All right,
Speaker 1: here's here's I'm ready for live looking both about Jovi
Speaker 1: seven right, went by any means necessary, seems accurate. Thanks
Speaker 1: for that glimpse. Um, All right, let's do a little
Speaker 1: uh oh, one last thing. This gotta Lynda holiday. She
Speaker 1: didn't get in there, you know, longtime girlfriend. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: one last thing is married to football. One last thing.
Speaker 1: I think we brought it up earlier this week, but
Speaker 1: in the Winners and Losers First Week of Free Agency
Speaker 1: piece that Greg wrote in NFL dot Com, you had
Speaker 1: some harsh words about John Lynch. Oh yeah, the yeah,
Speaker 1: the best and worst, best and worst contracts. Excuse me?
Speaker 1: You had um you know you could say harsh things
Speaker 1: to say about John Lynch, about maybe handing out too
Speaker 1: much money and being a little willy nillion his first
Speaker 1: run through free agency. I don't think it was unfair
Speaker 1: criticism by Greg, but you know you're this is a
Speaker 1: good thing. Your profile is high enough where this got
Speaker 1: put on the radar of the very man that you
Speaker 1: were criticizing. San Francisco Forta honors General Manager John Lynch.
Speaker 1: Let's listen, uh to where was this sid Where was
Speaker 1: this interview? Can k NBR in San Francisco? Uh addressed
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Let's hear. I want to talk to you,
Speaker 1: John about about this part of the deal. Now you're
Speaker 1: in the public eye and as a GM, and now
Speaker 1: you're now your decisions get analyzed by the pundits as
Speaker 1: Jim Harbas the scribes and the pundits analyzed and sized. Right,
Speaker 1: So how's the alligator skin when the NFL dot Com
Speaker 1: this week calls two of your contracts two of the
Speaker 1: worst free agent contracts of the seventeen season. NFL dot
Speaker 1: Com says, Kyle, you check and Malcolm Smith were dramatically overpaid.
Speaker 1: The agents smelled blood in the water and knocked John
Speaker 1: Lynch around the negotiating table. Oh how's the alligator skin? There?
Speaker 1: Are you now filled with a rage? You want to
Speaker 1: take this guy out? Reaching for his helmet, putting it
Speaker 1: back on, taking a run. Yeah, that's the first I
Speaker 1: heard of that. He went on to defend the moves
Speaker 1: and said that there were other teams willing to pay
Speaker 1: more money for those players. But people are excited about
Speaker 1: the new culture in San Francisco. Greg, your thoughts about
Speaker 1: that going onto John Lynch's radar, and do you have
Speaker 1: any concerns about that? No concerns, you know, His answer
Speaker 1: said at all. He's been through this before as a pro.
Speaker 1: He's not gonna let little criticism bother him. That's what
Speaker 1: he says in public. But you are definitely on John Lynch.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm more concerned with Mark, who you know,
Speaker 1: when we first listened to this made an audible oh
Speaker 1: sound feeling bad for John Lynch, as if he has
Speaker 1: some little victimized um that's gonna wilt well. He openly
Speaker 1: acknowledged that his St. Patrick's day. You know, you're not
Speaker 1: Irish you don't care, but he probably has some Irish
Speaker 1: blood in him. His st Patrick's day has been totally sideswiped.
Speaker 1: Greg's skipping company parties. Doesn't care about the people he
Speaker 1: works with. He's taken new time, you know, first year
Speaker 1: gms out one by one, you know, at one point
Speaker 1: to the feelings kicking. Do we care about other people
Speaker 1: at all? That's the question. This, This is part of
Speaker 1: the you know, the business we're in. I mean, unless
Speaker 1: you're just gonna be down, you know, down the middle, Sessler,
Speaker 1: you gotta take some stance. Now you're gonna now you're
Speaker 1: taking shots of people that you work with. Again, that's
Speaker 1: one of those shows where the gloves are off between
Speaker 1: Cessler and Rosenthal. Always. I don't find one of the
Speaker 1: bullet points of my career here to be attacking and
Speaker 1: destroying people. I know, I know John lynch uh is
Speaker 1: that he would not be destroyed. But he I'm just
Speaker 1: a little I'm a little thing. He flicks. Wait, I'm
Speaker 1: nothing compared to these forty niners journals grilling Jed york
Speaker 1: and and their coaches and like, that's that's part of
Speaker 1: this there is that's fair. I have a couple of arts.
Speaker 1: First of all, can br come back to us? Um?
Speaker 1: I don't like when because we work for the shield,
Speaker 1: this idea that we don't even have names, just like
Speaker 1: oh the NFL said this. It's like, no, put some
Speaker 1: respect on the guy's name. It's Greg Rose. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna use yeah, if you're gonna use his lines and
Speaker 1: you're gonna and you're gonna tee up Lynch to try
Speaker 1: to bury Greg. At least put the guy's name in
Speaker 1: the conversation, so you know, come back to us we are.
Speaker 1: And uh, secondly, Greg, and that's the only question I
Speaker 1: have from a journal angle. Would you have written that
Speaker 1: the same way if you knew John Lynch was going
Speaker 1: to write it? Read it? Yeah? Good question? That knocking
Speaker 1: around the negotiating table that did you know? Cos me
Speaker 1: pause at the second, but I thought it was tasty.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think I would all right, good eight
Speaker 1: o'clock to the light time. Yes, West, We'll start with
Speaker 1: Connor Barwin, who lands with the Rams and who had
Speaker 1: the break who had the breaking news. We had this
Speaker 1: news before anyone because spice Rack texted me and said, hey, look,
Speaker 1: Connor Barwin's about the sign with the Rams. Hey Wade
Speaker 1: Phillips thinks he's a great human being. That's interesting. But
Speaker 1: guess what still still doesn't get Melvil Gordon three more
Speaker 1: yards and also doesn't get Spice Rack back on the show. Well,
Speaker 1: I think spice Rack get back on the show. He
Speaker 1: plugged in just saying no one decided to pull him
Speaker 1: into this conversation. No actions were taken. All right, we'll
Speaker 1: have to have a committee meeting to talk about this
Speaker 1: because now there's mixed feelings. Guys. Breaking news, Brandon car
Speaker 1: signs a four year deal with the Ravens. The former
Speaker 1: Cowboys player. Uh, this is a good football player, says
Speaker 1: Ozzie Newsom. We got better today. Do you believe that, Greg?
Speaker 1: I do, because they needed depth there and you're looking
Speaker 1: at the secondary and they've now added Tony Jefferson, you
Speaker 1: got wet All, you got Jimmy Smith. It's coming together.
Speaker 1: The Jets have solved their problems at cornerback. More Morris Clayborne,
Speaker 1: the former first round pick of the Cowboys, has signed
Speaker 1: with a team for one year deal worth more than
Speaker 1: five million. According to rap Sheep West, a former sixth
Speaker 1: overall pick, that type of talent getting at this stage,
Speaker 1: what a move. What a coup by Mike mccagny. I
Speaker 1: think it's cool that you went from a cornerback who
Speaker 1: played at two hur in thirty five pounds to a
Speaker 1: cornerback who plays six games a year. That's that's one
Speaker 1: way to look at it. I think it was a
Speaker 1: Gangbusters move to borrow a check is um down Terry
Speaker 1: Post signed somewhere, Greg filling the fill in the gaps
Speaker 1: for Atlanta Falcons like this as a nice risk reward
Speaker 1: move one year deal. They need help on the defensive line.
Speaker 1: Thomas Debittroff said, we're kind of all set. We don't
Speaker 1: have any huge pressing needs. I don't know that defensive
Speaker 1: line is not that good. Polk and help him out.
Speaker 1: Josh McCown also visiting the Jets. He said, initially the
Speaker 1: onset of free energy, five or six teams were interested in.
Speaker 1: I can't even keep track. Maybe the Jets are one
Speaker 1: of them. Maybe maybe we don't know, but he would
Speaker 1: be a nice tasty in the two and fourteen scam
Speaker 1: for Sam where he's the starter, we get a whole
Speaker 1: offseason and summer of Oh Josh McCowen man, he's you know,
Speaker 1: he might not be the best player in the league.
Speaker 1: But he's a great leader. He's gonna teach those guys
Speaker 1: and he'll play some good book out for the year.
Speaker 1: Week three probably what would happen. History tells us that
Speaker 1: he's excellent and helping teams set up for the number
Speaker 1: one pick. He's been poor guy, Get get Josh McCown.
Speaker 1: Have these terrible teams, And finally ESPN has hired Rex Ryan.
Speaker 1: According to reports, he signed a multi year contract. Appear
Speaker 1: on Sunday NFL count Down West. Where does this rank
Speaker 1: on the most Predictable Things? Ever, it's like right behind
Speaker 1: Rex Perkhead signing with the Patriots. That's what's happening in
Speaker 1: the news. Josh McCown, by the way, the last three years,
Speaker 1: two wins and it starts losses. At his age, life
Speaker 1: is literally too short to waste away on a one
Speaker 1: in fifteen team. But that's what he's been doing his
Speaker 1: whole life. He likes it, go go find a winner.
Speaker 1: He likes to play, get playing time and lose constantly.
Speaker 1: That's his thing, that's his angle, that's his corner. We
Speaker 1: all have to have an angle. Could anything pull you
Speaker 1: back onto the Jets train this year? Oh? I'm on
Speaker 1: the Jets train. Well, you're hoping that the train goes
Speaker 1: right off the tracks into total darkness. Again, there's a
Speaker 1: vast difference between you and I. Mark, Yes, I am
Speaker 1: not off that my team's train. I am just taking
Speaker 1: a macro viewpoint. I'm taking my lumps this year, and
Speaker 1: I just want the organization to put themselves in a
Speaker 1: better position for twenty teen and beyond. You can frame
Speaker 1: it anyway you wish. I'm just being honest. I'm not saying,
Speaker 1: oh I'm not. I don't even care anymore. And this
Speaker 1: that's the market angle. I don't care. I never think
Speaker 1: about the Browns. That's all bs, and we know it.
Speaker 1: I think about the Jets a lot, and I well,
Speaker 1: I think and think a big picture. When the Browns
Speaker 1: come into my mind, I actively work to not think
Speaker 1: about I actually worked to have that memory. Whatever I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about, stop and think about something else, anything else.
Speaker 1: It explains a lot um all right, before we get
Speaker 1: into You're the GM said I just we need one
Speaker 1: last but one last bit of breaking news. And then
Speaker 1: this was this landed like a hammer on the news
Speaker 1: desk this morning. The Great Sydney Carlson New Money La
Speaker 1: Sid not going to Disneyland this weekend, rather Disneylands chief
Speaker 1: competitor Flags, Magic Mountain, Oh mar Own, what you can't
Speaker 1: do this? Sid? First of all, let's take that night
Speaker 1: out of your back. Mickey, let's down, Hellry, why don't
Speaker 1: you do that? Term? Should? I do not in any way? Everybody?
Speaker 1: I do not, in any way use six Flags as
Speaker 1: a competitor, said Judas, said Judas, No, I mean, please,
Speaker 1: good where are you? Disney is disgustingly good at making money,
Speaker 1: and I have given them more than I cared to.
Speaker 1: But I think, like any great relationship, you know, you've
Speaker 1: got to be free to live, hang out with other
Speaker 1: friends from time to time. People, I'm not seeing other people.
Speaker 1: I'm just hanging out with friends, or or Mickey could
Speaker 1: look at it like she's growing up, like hey, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of the fun. Like we're gonna go out, we're
Speaker 1: gonna have a nice, clean time. And then there's those
Speaker 1: renegades with the leather jacket and maybe a couple of pops.
Speaker 1: Six Flags comes along, let's have some adult fun. Oh
Speaker 1: that's say. I remember when when Christopher Robin got too
Speaker 1: old to play with Winnie the Pooh just turn to
Speaker 1: a really sad. Turn ship. It's me, Mickey. I have
Speaker 1: a look at all for you. My heart is breaking. Dan,
Speaker 1: don't bring Nicky and get a little cash in your pocket.
Speaker 1: And this was what happens changed breaking news. Sydney Dating
Speaker 1: Around breaks off an exclusive relationship with the fictional mouse,
Speaker 1: moving on from the mouse to the woodpecker. I think
Speaker 1: I think that's six Flags. I don't know. Looney Tunes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Looney Tunes is. Actually they're in bed with Looney Tunes.
Speaker 1: I believe if we're going to keep on this and
Speaker 1: someone else apparently produce Harrison, it's like maybe like the
Speaker 1: bad Boy, but we'll go back, you know, we'll go back.
Speaker 1: This is your bad boy face. Yeah, I suppose that's
Speaker 1: what it would have to be, because the people there's
Speaker 1: like there's a hierarchy of happiness, and the people who
Speaker 1: work at Disneyland are distinctly more happy than the people
Speaker 1: who work at six f or like an adventure Land
Speaker 1: feel at sick. They're just kind of punching the clock. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is this counts of the city's bad boy. A
Speaker 1: woman that pines for Kirk Cousins. You know, she's a
Speaker 1: wholesome girl. Sydney and that's what we love Sydney. So
Speaker 1: six Flags as your walk on the dark side, Nona
Speaker 1: and els at six Flags and see that big news,
Speaker 1: big news. All right, now it's time Sydney. You cannot
Speaker 1: let the people Disney know that this happened. Oh I
Speaker 1: don't plan to. Okay, it is time now to bring
Speaker 1: it back. You're the GM and this is a game.
Speaker 1: We um we we did it for the first time
Speaker 1: last March, and we figured now with free agency really
Speaker 1: died down and teams are now maybe starting to look
Speaker 1: more towards the draft and and what pieces where they're
Speaker 1: still holes as we start to head towards. Before you
Speaker 1: know it, O t A is in about a month.
Speaker 1: So is it a month or is it just work out?
Speaker 1: That's all the same whatever. Teams are gonna start working
Speaker 1: out next month. Uh, it's crazy how it works. But
Speaker 1: here we go. They gotta start figuring out who's gonna
Speaker 1: be on their team in two thousand and seventeen. So
Speaker 1: the GMS Uswhilder first string quarterback, they all they all
Speaker 1: talked to each other. They all talked to each other.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna pull back the curtain and um, let
Speaker 1: you know what, what it's like, And Mark, why don't
Speaker 1: you get us going? You can tell us who you
Speaker 1: are portraying, what GM, who you are calling, and let
Speaker 1: us know which one of us will portray that other GM,
Speaker 1: and then we'll let the listeners know, um what that
Speaker 1: conversation entailed. All right, I will be playing Brown's executive
Speaker 1: VP of operations. Listeners shaid know a year A year ago,
Speaker 1: at this point, Sashi turned down a deal that would
Speaker 1: have gotten a Matt Ryan. Oh yeah, this very over
Speaker 1: some haggling between a first or a third round pick
Speaker 1: and in retrospect thing you weren't right in a column
Speaker 1: about him. In retrospect, Sashi might have just wanted to
Speaker 1: go get that quarterback back. So Mark, as Sashi turned
Speaker 1: down Matt Ryan moved down around. Now you have a
Speaker 1: chance to redeem yourself and Sashi in a big spot.
Speaker 1: I am calling up the Patriots for one very obvious reason.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna let this happen again. So let's dial
Speaker 1: up the Massachusetts area code and speak to Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: as played by Dan hansis Bill Belichick's office. Please hold,
Speaker 1: this portion of your podcast has been censored by a
Speaker 1: shadowy league figure. Our apologies. This portion of your podcast
Speaker 1: has been censored by a shadowy league figure. Our apologies.
Speaker 1: No Bill, Bill Sashy Brown right out here in Cleveland.
Speaker 1: You know you're old stomping grounds kidding me. We've done
Speaker 1: some deals. Four I got you Barkvious Mingo helped bring
Speaker 1: you a super Bowl title that went very well. Are
Speaker 1: you being a smartass? Hold on a second, please, Sashi, Sashi, Sashy,
Speaker 1: Sorry about that. Bill. A lot going on here on
Speaker 1: ringing all the time. Listen. I think it's out there.
Speaker 1: We know we the Browns need a quarterback. I think
Speaker 1: it's the least you could do for us is to
Speaker 1: listen to my offer. I will listen. I will this,
Speaker 1: This is it. I'm listening. I gotta get on seven
Speaker 1: rings in a few minutes. But you got me for now, Sashi,
Speaker 1: let's start. We're gonna go with Sashi please, Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna start right here. I'm I'm gonna give you our
Speaker 1: highest number two pick this year. And on top of it,
Speaker 1: you know you've got one of the great line coaches
Speaker 1: in the NFL, Dante Scarnekia. I'm gonna help bolster your
Speaker 1: offensive line with a couple of players here. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: read them off. You've taken notes. I'll do what I want.
Speaker 1: Second down pick plus left tackle Joe Thomas, left guard
Speaker 1: Joel Bottonio, offensive lineman Spencer Durango, center, j C. Treader,
Speaker 1: lineman Zack Stirrup, lineman Marcus Martin, offensive lineman Austin Wryter,
Speaker 1: interior offensive lineman Gabe Ikard, guard John Greco, guard Kevin Zeitler,
Speaker 1: who we just signed X first round center cam Irvin
Speaker 1: and tackle Austin Passer as a bonus Wolf Russell throw
Speaker 1: in Sean Coleman bolstering your offensive line. You get a
Speaker 1: second round pick. You give us Jimmy g We'll pay
Speaker 1: for the plane ticket and the eight team plane tickets
Speaker 1: that I've the people I'm sending your way. UM question,
Speaker 1: Hold on a second, please, Sashi, Sashi, Sashi, we're back.
Speaker 1: What's going on in Cleveland? You seem a little distracted,
Speaker 1: and maybe that explains that awful trade offer. I have
Speaker 1: one of the best offensive lines in the a f
Speaker 1: C with SKARNACKI call him Dante. I don't need more
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. This makes no sense. You're you're not You're
Speaker 1: bad at your job. Sashi and I you know, I
Speaker 1: think you should take what I I say too hard
Speaker 1: because I'm quite respected in these circles and you're completely overmatched.
Speaker 1: It feels that way at this point in the conversation.
Speaker 1: Can we get Jimmy g away from you for anything?
Speaker 1: It has to happen. You understand the Browns? Where what's
Speaker 1: your starting point? I do understand the Browns. The Browns
Speaker 1: fired me, The Browns embarrassed me, and I will never
Speaker 1: ever do anything to help them, never a turn for
Speaker 1: the worst. That did not terrible, terrible. It's a bad saation.
Speaker 1: I thought Austin Pastor would have put it over the top.
Speaker 1: But that's what I was thinking something. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of alignment to deal with there would he to do
Speaker 1: with that? I kind of yeah, I wonder. I wonder
Speaker 1: if Sashi was on any mind expanding agents before he
Speaker 1: made that phone call. It feels possible. All right, West,
Speaker 1: you're up. I am Titans G M John Robinson and
Speaker 1: Gregg Is Seahawks GM John Snyder, M exciting. Hello, Schneid's
Speaker 1: Robbie here. Put your shirt on for this one. I'm excited.
Speaker 1: Everything in Seattle is exciting. Look word around the campfire
Speaker 1: here in GM circles, is that you are willing to
Speaker 1: trade that na'er do well Richard Sherman, who spends most
Speaker 1: of his time undermining the coaching staff, threatening to ruin
Speaker 1: reporters careers, and yelling at his teammates. If if the
Speaker 1: price is right, I hear he's available. Look, we've got
Speaker 1: two first round picks. I'm willing to give you the
Speaker 1: eighteen and a conditional fourth round in two thousand eighteen
Speaker 1: for Richard Sherman. We need a shutdown corner here in Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Why why why are you trying to downplay our guy
Speaker 1: as you're trying to trade for him. Why are you
Speaker 1: trying to trade for him if you think everybody knows,
Speaker 1: everybody knows? Why on the market he's a pain in
Speaker 1: your ass right now? What? What are what are the
Speaker 1: conditions you just say, conditional fourth round pick? I want
Speaker 1: to know these conditions if if we go to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: it moves up to a third Oh, it's interesting. M hmm.
Speaker 1: There's just like a peanut gallery on the line. Nice,
Speaker 1: nice move. I like it. I'm gonna need more for
Speaker 1: that because I gotta tell you, Richard Sherman still a
Speaker 1: great cornerback. He's a big personality. That's kind of how
Speaker 1: we roll. I gotta I gotta admit I get a
Speaker 1: little board around here. Sometimes. I kind of like seeing
Speaker 1: Pete go after these players, big personalities, Like that's what
Speaker 1: we do. We're a zoo. The number eighteen pick for
Speaker 1: a top top ten pick, top twenty pick in the draft,
Speaker 1: no top ten cornerback. I'm gonna upgrade the conditional to
Speaker 1: a conditional third render that can go to a second
Speaker 1: if we make the playoffs. And look, you might think
Speaker 1: we're a cute little operation down here in Nashville. We're
Speaker 1: a team on the rise. You better respect us. We're
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. Is this a threat, John, Rob
Speaker 1: Is this a thread John to another. I've been in
Speaker 1: this business for a while. You just kind of came
Speaker 1: in as a GM. You see those pictures of me
Speaker 1: in the locker room with the shirt off. You only
Speaker 1: do that when you win titles. I'm keeping Richard Sherman
Speaker 1: forget this. I thought that, like copping, it's the last
Speaker 1: time I call Greg and a fake conversation. Greg surprisingly
Speaker 1: hard to negotiate with. On the trade. Richard Sherman worth
Speaker 1: a little more than that what was the trade again,
Speaker 1: I got a little caught up in the first number,
Speaker 1: eighteen overall pick and the third round I can get
Speaker 1: up to a second. I would have taken what year
Speaker 1: old corner making eleven million a year A good deal. Honestly,
Speaker 1: you don't think that's a tasty deal at all. I
Speaker 1: feel like you guys could have I would have taken
Speaker 1: that deal. This he told me to respect him. It
Speaker 1: was kind of similar, similar to what happened last year
Speaker 1: when I listened to this podcast again, feelings got in
Speaker 1: the way. He told me to respect him. I was.
Speaker 1: I was kind of leaning towards taking it, and then thought,
Speaker 1: who's this John Robinson guy? You know he only gets
Speaker 1: hired because, uh, you know, ownership can't find anyone better.
Speaker 1: That was based on Michael Lombardi said in The Ringer
Speaker 1: this week that that the Seahawks are willing to trade
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman. Interesting. All right, Next up, wes Um, this
Speaker 1: is something you've always wanted to do. He's gonna come
Speaker 1: back into the picture. Now you'll be playing Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: and you are getting a phone call from none other
Speaker 1: than Big Mac. It's gonna be on an answer bello
Speaker 1: Chick here, Bill, I got you. Yeah, I mean Big Mac,
Speaker 1: the mac man, Mike mccagman. Who please, who are you?
Speaker 1: I'm another general manager in your division. I'm employed by
Speaker 1: the New York Jets, your former team. I mean I
Speaker 1: was with him for five minutes. Literally, wait a second, Bill,
Speaker 1: do you really forget that you were the offense of
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator in m Come back to us, Bill, ever,
Speaker 1: come back to you, literally, please come back to us.
Speaker 1: All right, Big Mac here, you know who this is.
Speaker 1: You know this is all right? Here we go and
Speaker 1: I'm being dead series. I know, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know you would never trade Jimmy G to a
Speaker 1: Well I was gonna say rival, but you don't view
Speaker 1: the Jets as arrival. Let's be honest. For for twenty
Speaker 1: years you've been getting the upper hand on the Jets,
Speaker 1: um and I know that right now. What are the problems?
Speaker 1: And I think one of the reasons why you have
Speaker 1: not traded Jimmy G to that bump Sashi. First of all,
Speaker 1: he's a total lothario. Cannot focus on anything. I heard
Speaker 1: about the phone call you got where he offered an
Speaker 1: entire offensive line while he was in the middle of
Speaker 1: a Koita session. That was weird. The whole league's talking
Speaker 1: about it. So you don't want to do business of
Speaker 1: that guy, and I get that, so let me. I'll
Speaker 1: never talk to Sashi again after that bizarre phone call.
Speaker 1: I mean, Cleveland has never been in a worse spot
Speaker 1: than they are right now. So you were like, bros,
Speaker 1: we can wrap big Mac here, Big Mac in the
Speaker 1: Big Bay and I only rap on snap face. All right,
Speaker 1: So Bill, and you're gonna think this as a joke,
Speaker 1: but think about your long term future with the team.
Speaker 1: You know, Tommy boy has got another five years and
Speaker 1: I want Jimmy g I want him. I want to
Speaker 1: swoop in. No one thinks that you would trade him.
Speaker 1: What's the thing that the Patriots do. They do things
Speaker 1: people don't expect. Trade me, Jimmy Gane. This would all
Speaker 1: give you and and don't snicker. Take this seriously. You
Speaker 1: could choose literally any player currently on my roster. That's
Speaker 1: that's the starting point. That's the starting point. I've seen
Speaker 1: your roster. You can don't laugh at me. Yeah, Levin, Levin,
Speaker 1: try to pry away and have fourte from you. Um listen,
Speaker 1: I'm talking. You know you can get more workers and
Speaker 1: motivated Leonard Williams. Hello, you know you could do damage
Speaker 1: with Leonard Williams. Darren Leaves a great young linebacker. I
Speaker 1: got some skill. I got some skill on this on
Speaker 1: this team anyway. So that's just the starting point any player.
Speaker 1: Let's make him winner Williams. All right, Letty Williams the
Speaker 1: first round pick two thousand seventeen, two thousand eighteen, and
Speaker 1: a conventional third round pick in two thousand nineteen that
Speaker 1: becomes a first round pick if the Jets reach the
Speaker 1: conference title game in the next two years, and you
Speaker 1: send me your backup quarterback that you don't even plan
Speaker 1: to play for the next three to five years. First
Speaker 1: of all, your instincts are correct. I don't see you
Speaker 1: as a arrival. I never have. That hurts my feelings,
Speaker 1: but go on. Uh but here's the deal. If I
Speaker 1: trade Jimmy Garoppolo to you, we view him as a
Speaker 1: future superstar. That's when I'll start viewing you as a rival.
Speaker 1: And I have traded Drew Bledsoe with him my division
Speaker 1: because I knew he was washed up. Look, we had
Speaker 1: him here. He's a fine guy, makes a great wine,
Speaker 1: but he was done and I knew it. I wasn't
Speaker 1: afraid of him. I am afraid if Jimmy goes there,
Speaker 1: the Jets Tom Brady could go down, and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, the balance of power ships in that division
Speaker 1: to the team that does have a quarterback. It is
Speaker 1: a It is the most tempting offer I've gotten, certainly
Speaker 1: more tempting than the one for seventeen offensive lineman. And
Speaker 1: it is a very fair, fair offer. And I have
Speaker 1: much more respect for you as as a man and
Speaker 1: general manager. I will no longer act like you're not
Speaker 1: even in my division anymore. But I can't. I can't
Speaker 1: take the deal. I can't. I can't prop up the
Speaker 1: Jets as a franchise with an actual quarterback. Bill and
Speaker 1: all that I appreciate, but I have to tell you,
Speaker 1: if I don't get a quarterback, I'm gonna get fired.
Speaker 1: I need this big maxim French fries. Get Big Mac
Speaker 1: a shake inspiration. Big Mac is special sauce My, Jimmy
Speaker 1: hang up, all right, Belichick, tough negotiator. I thought he
Speaker 1: might take that. That was a good deal. Now we're
Speaker 1: trying to win super Bowls, not collect first round picks. Okay,
Speaker 1: next up, Greg m all right, I'm gonna be Tom
Speaker 1: Coughlin Jacksonville Jaguars. The GM is not even making the
Speaker 1: call out of jackson That guy, he's basically how he
Speaker 1: roseman in two thousand fourteen. And I'm gonna call old
Speaker 1: Steve Kaimie Steve kim played by Mark Okay Machine here
Speaker 1: kim me. I'm back. This is Tom Coughlin. You're old about.
Speaker 1: We're just a couple of football guys. I'm back in
Speaker 1: the league. Are you making the calls out of your organization?
Speaker 1: What's sort of chaos raveling in your on your team?
Speaker 1: A break? I'll tell you why did I start here?
Speaker 1: I got old? I got old called well, you know,
Speaker 1: go go look at some rookie quarterbacks, buddy. You know,
Speaker 1: I'll be sure to read the report you write up
Speaker 1: project called Well. These guys are crazy over here. I
Speaker 1: came down here. These guys think Blake Bortles is it
Speaker 1: Blake boards nice quarterback? We gotta win this game that
Speaker 1: they think they've won some super Bowls around here. They
Speaker 1: haven't won five more than five games since two thousand
Speaker 1: and eleven. You know how hard that is to do
Speaker 1: in the NFL. That's how it was when I got
Speaker 1: here before I turned everything around Tom Coughlin. Tom Coughlin
Speaker 1: doesn't mess around with five and eleven. And so I've
Speaker 1: got a deal for you. I think you're gonna want
Speaker 1: to listen to this. Unroll it. Carson Palmer's he's at
Speaker 1: the end of the line thinking about retiring. That's your opinion.
Speaker 1: He was thinking about what people said about you. He
Speaker 1: was thinking about retiring. Larry Fitzgerald, I was thinking about retiring.
Speaker 1: You're you're in a pickle. I just was watching the
Speaker 1: old NFL network. One of the best guys out there,
Speaker 1: Chris Wesling, says, your window is closed. Kimie. You've got
Speaker 1: a rough off season, this Germaine greshroom contract. It's time
Speaker 1: to reload. You got some nice young talent. Give away
Speaker 1: trade away a couple of guys at the end of
Speaker 1: the line. Carson Palmer and Larry Fitzgerald's short term solutions.
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll do for you. I'll send you back
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles, just so you have someone I know. I
Speaker 1: know Bruce. He's great with the big armed young quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I'll send you Blake Bortles. I'll send you Alan Hearns,
Speaker 1: nice young wide receiver, he's a guy who's gonna be
Speaker 1: around for a little while. And I'll give you a
Speaker 1: second round pick in this year's draft. Two, you're trading
Speaker 1: me two guys who aren't even gonna be in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I can't stand this whole five win nonsense with Blake
Speaker 1: Bortles this year. There's no chance we're gonna win games.
Speaker 1: You help me out right now. I'm getting old. I
Speaker 1: can't wait around you reek of desperation. Uh com machine,
Speaker 1: don't play that. I don't know who this Chris guy
Speaker 1: is from a football website either. Are you coming out
Speaker 1: with a very bizarre argument. You're gonna tell me that
Speaker 1: you're essentially trading me Alan Hearns and a nonfunctional quarterback
Speaker 1: for a Hall of Fame receiver. And you don't You
Speaker 1: don't listen very well to what Bruce arians said a
Speaker 1: few years ago that Carson Palmer can play deep into
Speaker 1: his thirties, maybe even longer. You guys think he's done
Speaker 1: after this season. Nice try, buddy. You gotta sweet in
Speaker 1: the pot. You're gonna give me your biggest problem. That's
Speaker 1: the trade you're coming up with Blake Bortles. Then what
Speaker 1: do I do? How do I sell that to the
Speaker 1: people in Arizona. I think your medications. You know the
Speaker 1: kind of colliding you can you can go on a
Speaker 1: little soup you over there. This guy Palmer, you didn't
Speaker 1: even know if he was gonna play anymore in the
Speaker 1: middle of January. You gotta start thinking about the future.
Speaker 1: All Right, I'll tell you what you got. I'll change
Speaker 1: you got two more minutes with me. I'll change it up,
Speaker 1: change up your Allan's I'll give you Allen Robinson. I'll
Speaker 1: bump up that draft pick up to a first round pick.
Speaker 1: You're leaving me with no quarterback. You give me a
Speaker 1: first round draft pick? Giving you a first round pick.
Speaker 1: You guys got a lot of young talent there. You're
Speaker 1: not winning with this Palmer Fitzgerald thing. I gotta win
Speaker 1: this guy shot Conn. He wants the movie. Where are
Speaker 1: you picking this year in the draft? What number you
Speaker 1: I'm a pie? Oh you should probably know offhand. But
Speaker 1: if you don't that that leaves only more concerned. I
Speaker 1: mean the top five. Baby, you're giving me this year's
Speaker 1: first round pick. You're giving me Allen Robinson Dan Blake
Speaker 1: Bortles for these two players. Deal done? Baby? Wow? Wow,
Speaker 1: we got a deal. Wow, A crazy to take that
Speaker 1: deal when he's sweetened the pot with the first round
Speaker 1: this year's first round or Jacksonville picks. Where I think there,
Speaker 1: I think you just I think you just had the
Speaker 1: time of your life in a big spot's just got
Speaker 1: fired advantage of old Tommy boy. If you believe, if
Speaker 1: you believe internally, if you're Arizona, you say, I think
Speaker 1: we maxed out with this roster, getting rid of Fits
Speaker 1: and Carson who aren't gonna be there next year. And
Speaker 1: now you just you know, Bordles, it's a project. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Robinson's a number one wide receiver potentially, and you got
Speaker 1: a first round pick, and you trust your draft process
Speaker 1: had a shaky draft last year, if I don't uh
Speaker 1: it was, but you got David Johnson the third round
Speaker 1: the year before, Like what I did there was the
Speaker 1: second round was a second time Drives a hard bargain.
Speaker 1: Time did a nice job. Tom is desperate. You know
Speaker 1: who should get Steve Come? The Browns had trade all
Speaker 1: those draft assets to get Steve Come. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: as someone who supports Sashi Brown, I don't feel I
Speaker 1: did in any favors with this this segment. But maybe
Speaker 1: he'll return a quick one before before we go around. Um, uh, Greg,
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna play Chris Greer of the Dolphins, okay,
Speaker 1: and I will be Chris Ballard of the Cults. Hello,
Speaker 1: I'm Chris Greer. Who's Chris gear? Hi, I'm Chris Ballard.
Speaker 1: Do you want to come over? Uh? Hey, Mikey T Mikey.
Speaker 1: Can I go over to Chris Chris Ballard's house? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he says, I don't really do that much around here.
Speaker 1: I can come over. I got a cotton candy machine.
Speaker 1: I love cotton candy. Your favorite type of frog cults
Speaker 1: are and fine fine hands? Something about that Ballard? And
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't put my finger on it. Alright,
Speaker 1: one more time around the horn? Now, alright, Mark, you're up.
Speaker 1: I am Saints something or other. Mickey loomis dialing up
Speaker 1: Ted Thompson is played by Christopher Westling Thompson. Here three rings, guys.
Speaker 1: Mickey Loomis from down to New Orleans. How are you Pelican?
Speaker 1: I got a lot in my mind, my mom, I'm
Speaker 1: I got a lot going on. I got I'm trying
Speaker 1: to juggle two teams here I can have you won
Speaker 1: a game since you traded for Bookie, I don't know
Speaker 1: our record. I'm not I gotta make a deal. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on me. Sean Payton is trying
Speaker 1: to get Malcolm Butler. He's gonna over sell for that
Speaker 1: I need. He told me we got to get this defense,
Speaker 1: which has been historically awful. I haven't thought about the
Speaker 1: Saints defense since I'm not kidding you two thousand ten,
Speaker 1: I have not thought about them once. Defense and thinking.
Speaker 1: I got too much going on in the mind. New
Speaker 1: Orleans is a crazy town to try to have a
Speaker 1: full time job, and I think you can understand where
Speaker 1: I'm coming from. Ted, I gotta do a deal. Will
Speaker 1: you listen? At least I'm here for you. I know
Speaker 1: you don't like offseason maneuvering, but this could do. This
Speaker 1: could be good for you too. They're calling you inactive
Speaker 1: that you just go to sleep in March. Here we go.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you running back mark Ingram. You need
Speaker 1: a running back. You just lost Eddie Lacy. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: give you New Orleans Pelicans point guard Drew Holiday and
Speaker 1: power forward Anthony Davis four in return Clay Matthews Packers
Speaker 1: game Day broadcaster Wayne Laer iView. We have a hope.
Speaker 1: We have a hole there and the guy knows basketball
Speaker 1: to an offensive perimetery. Coach David Ray, I need that
Speaker 1: guy too. What do you say they have light teddy there.
Speaker 1: I gotta make this happens. Actually writing these down, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta the Ray guy. Come on, Well, I don't.
Speaker 1: I'm not very active in March usually, so I do
Speaker 1: have to write this kind of stuff down. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know what, it's a deal. It's you know you people
Speaker 1: don't know this about me. I am a huge NBA fan.
Speaker 1: I'm a big Bucks fan. And if I compare the
Speaker 1: Greek Freak with Anthony Davis and Drew Holiday, we got
Speaker 1: we got a team here in Wisconsin. It's a deal.
Speaker 1: Clay Matthews, look, have fun with him. He hasn't made
Speaker 1: a play in two years, thank you. I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: watch a Saints game all season, but they're gonna love
Speaker 1: this Clay Matthews business. I'll go tells coach Sean Payton,
Speaker 1: you sure it's a deal. We're good. We're good. I
Speaker 1: have always had a soft spot for the Milwaukee Bucks,
Speaker 1: all the way back to the Dandridge days. Jack Sikma,
Speaker 1: Paul McCaskey, let's do it. My day is done. Thank you, buddy.
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis now a member of Milwaukee Bucks. I think
Speaker 1: the next phone calls from Adam Silver, the NBA commissioner.
Speaker 1: That's fair, all right, Wow, I can't believe that one.
Speaker 1: I know Thompson with able to help out the Buck Bucks. Um.
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, you will be portraying Texans general manager
Speaker 1: Rick Smith and oh sassy, and you will be getting
Speaker 1: a phone call from Broncos general manager John Elway. Texans
Speaker 1: general manager Rick Smith on the line, Rack, it's John Elway.
Speaker 1: I don't you know your worst night? Then? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is not the call I was hoping for. What's
Speaker 1: on your mind? Let me I got one thing to
Speaker 1: say to you. I'm not here to make a trade.
Speaker 1: If you know what's good for you, you'll stay away
Speaker 1: from Romo. Let me tell you something. He's damaged goods.
Speaker 1: He's barely played in two years. He stinks. You know
Speaker 1: that you like Scoff too much, Jessica Simpson. Can you
Speaker 1: say distraction? He's holding a fantasy football summit this summer,
Speaker 1: gambling much You won't You don't want that guy? Have
Speaker 1: you looked at our quarterback roster. You know all about
Speaker 1: Brock Coswall, the guy we lost. We have someone named
Speaker 1: Tom Savage who could be our starter if we don't
Speaker 1: go after Romo. You gotta be kidding me. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go hard after Romo, steal the Texas spotlight away from
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. You pulled this move with with Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: a couple of years going one a super Bowl. Why
Speaker 1: don't we want to just do the same thing down
Speaker 1: here in Houston. I've been through eight quarterbacks. I don't
Speaker 1: I'm running out of time here. What happened to your accent?
Speaker 1: Great question? I'm a man of many personalities. This portion
Speaker 1: of your podcast has been censored by a shadowy league figure.
Speaker 1: Our apologies. I gotta go, but let me just tell
Speaker 1: you something. I got some Papa John's deals to finish up.
Speaker 1: This is not a threat, but stay away. And last comment,
Speaker 1: I'm recording this phone call. Last thing I gotta say
Speaker 1: when it comes to Tony Romo. This one's for John. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's a competitor. That guy total bully. Oh. I think
Speaker 1: I think that we know what the Texans are gonna do.
Speaker 1: You know, look into the jam Cutler business. It's interesting
Speaker 1: Dret Greg finishing this off. I've got oh if only
Speaker 1: done one? Oh, I'm sorry, West, go ahead. I am
Speaker 1: Rams general manager, Less Sneaed and Mark is Titans general
Speaker 1: manager John Robinson. Mm hm, back on the line, Johnny
Speaker 1: rob here, Johnny rob this is Less Sneeze Lester. How
Speaker 1: you doing doing great? Look? I heard everybody's talking about
Speaker 1: how poorly John Schneider treated you when you made a
Speaker 1: fair offer for a cornerback. I thought it was very fair.
Speaker 1: I've got Truemaine Johnson here. I will give you true Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I will give you Truemaine Johnson for a bottle of
Speaker 1: hair spray. Oh hold on here, so I gotta absorb
Speaker 1: basically his franchise tag. Are we gonna? Is this guy
Speaker 1: willing to play ball? I'm giving I'm giving you a
Speaker 1: lockdown cornerback. I need to know what happens after this season.
Speaker 1: We we'd have to we'd have to make sure that
Speaker 1: we get him on a full deal before we do this.
Speaker 1: For the caraight, it's why would you want that? You do?
Speaker 1: You don't like this player, He's he doesn't fit in
Speaker 1: your system. Is that what you're telling me? Something feels
Speaker 1: something stinks here. To be honest with you, my franchise
Speaker 1: is the only one in the NFL that believes Trumaine
Speaker 1: Johnson is worth six million dollars a year. I just
Speaker 1: want to get my hair right. It's it's a compelling
Speaker 1: deal from a value standpoint. Uh, sure, let's do it,
Speaker 1: all right. I would ask him to take some of
Speaker 1: the money back. Maybe it seems kind of like a
Speaker 1: no brainer though, I mean a hair sprayed cash to
Speaker 1: burn down a tendency cheap when you alright, finally, Greg,
Speaker 1: So this is finally Okay, I had a couple of alright,
Speaker 1: let's uh, I'll be uh, I'll be Bills General Manager
Speaker 1: Doug Whalley, and I'm calling um Reggie Mackenzie, Oakland Raiders
Speaker 1: general manager played by Dan Okay, who's this whole? What?
Speaker 1: You're the Raiders? Sugar band, Sugar Sugar bar in the house.
Speaker 1: Please hold This portion of your podcast has been censored
Speaker 1: by a shadowy league figure. Our apologies, Sugarba headquarters. Who's speaking?
Speaker 1: Oh sugar bads dog, welly dog, my old friend from
Speaker 1: Western New York. Actually hold on a second, Jack, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm back. I understand we're both busy men. I was
Speaker 1: just checking checking out road World again to check out
Speaker 1: this new news story. Okay, it's gonna be bothered, are
Speaker 1: you okay? I promise you. I saw a report e J.
Speaker 1: Mahnuel that you're thinking of a signing. EJ. Manuel. Reports
Speaker 1: are out there, but it's not done. You right, it's
Speaker 1: not done. But Sugarbar likes him, thinks he's a good
Speaker 1: insurance positive. Please please don't do it to me. Please
Speaker 1: don't do it to me. I love this guy, e J. Manuel.
Speaker 1: You know the coaching staff here, they don't seem to
Speaker 1: like him. Ownership, no one likes him, but this guy.
Speaker 1: But I believe it. Just don't do it. Just don't
Speaker 1: do it. Hold on a second, hold on a second.
Speaker 1: Jackson music, all right, but just please please don't do it.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna. I'll just I'll get you back. I
Speaker 1: know that's not how it's normally done in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I'll get you back. I love this guy, e J. Manuel.
Speaker 1: I think if no one signs him until the draft,
Speaker 1: I can maybe get him back on my roster. Please.
Speaker 1: It's Bill Simmons on the Doug sugar Bears. At a
Speaker 1: loss for words right now, sugar Bear looks at e J.
Speaker 1: Manuel is a sunken cost for the team out of
Speaker 1: Western New York. Sugar basses the team out of Western
Speaker 1: New York is being a problematic situation with EJ. Manuel.
Speaker 1: Why would you want it back? I'm gonna take Johnny
Speaker 1: Cocher talking to Bill Simmons. I love this guy. This
Speaker 1: is what Sean said. You were gonna say what I
Speaker 1: called you two? Do you want me to get out
Speaker 1: of the e J Manual business? Is that what you're
Speaker 1: Just leave him alone? Just leave him alone. This is
Speaker 1: my guy, sugar Bear. Sugar I don't know what that means,
Speaker 1: but sugar Bear has a heart, and I know you
Speaker 1: seem to be going through some things. Sugar bat out
Speaker 1: No e J to Oakland bizarre. Wow. I need to
Speaker 1: figure out what song that was you were playing, Greg.
Speaker 1: I need to add that to the collection. Um all right, Oh,
Speaker 1: Natalie and Brulius sounds a little sick. She's been through
Speaker 1: some stuff the last twenty years since we last heard
Speaker 1: from her. Um, there you go. So now now you
Speaker 1: understand what is going on behind the scenes in the NFL.
Speaker 1: It's very clear. All right, that's it. Good show, guys,
Speaker 1: fun show. We'll be back on Monday with another Around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast, The train. It just keeps rolling Monday, Wednesday,
Speaker 1: probably Friday again. But thank you to everyone for listening.
Speaker 1: And uh, we gotta go. That's it right, it's time.
Speaker 1: I can't stay here forever. I gotta go at some point.
Speaker 1: You gotta go on Friday, gotta get out of here,
Speaker 1: j Manuel, go home. Western New York's con for you.
Speaker 1: Since Dan hanzas signing off for a quiet storm, the Mailman,
Speaker 1: the Boston New Money behind the Glass tell Monday. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're back up in the studio, Dan and West
Speaker 1: and I. We've left Greg downstairs because we don't want
Speaker 1: to pile on. But this whole thing with the party
Speaker 1: didn't show up. I got a note from someone, a
Speaker 1: female employee, who a female female employee who was disappointed
Speaker 1: that Greg would not even make an appearance of this thing.
Speaker 1: So I just want to read. I'll leave the name up,
Speaker 1: but I want to read what she had to say.
Speaker 1: Here it goes Hey, Mark, good afternoon. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to follow up on our chat from last night. I'm
Speaker 1: still confused and slightly hurt that Greg simply shrugged off
Speaker 1: the many workers who toil endlessly to make the NFL's
Speaker 1: collection of podcasts a positive experience for all. Has he
Speaker 1: followed up with you at all about why he found
Speaker 1: it acceptable to dismiss the people he works with for
Speaker 1: his own gains. Just wondering if he's debriefed with you
Speaker 1: at all about his behavior as he given a logical
Speaker 1: reason for his decision making. I have to be honest, Colin,
Speaker 1: I feel a little hurt about his response to to
Speaker 1: our invite to gather with people who spend most of
Speaker 1: the time promoting his work and accomplishments at NFL Network.
Speaker 1: I know he's at work because I saw him walking
Speaker 1: by himself toward the Huddle, which is our restaurant here.
Speaker 1: Earlier in the day. He had to walk upstairs on
Speaker 1: the other side of the patio because they are still
Speaker 1: working on the new wall decorations, the one with a
Speaker 1: variety of NFL football players. I then saw him walking
Speaker 1: past the giant image of NFL Networks Dan Helly, and
Speaker 1: maybe Greg thinks that our workplace should have made it
Speaker 1: a massive image of him instead of Dan Helly. But
Speaker 1: do you think Dan Helly would have just blown off
Speaker 1: the people who worked daily to promote his career at workplace.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think Dan Helly would show
Speaker 1: even a thumbnail of respect for his fellow workers, which
Speaker 1: is more than Greg's showed to us last night. Even
Speaker 1: the last evening. The bar was also very close to work.
Speaker 1: He could have stopped by for like five minutes and
Speaker 1: all of this would have been a different situation. Has
Speaker 1: Greg said anything to you about his thought process? I
Speaker 1: know this goes on and on. By the way, I
Speaker 1: know that Sidney was also upset because she wouldn't say
Speaker 1: anything because she's too nice that you know she's She's
Speaker 1: very nice. I should let you know that Sidney was
Speaker 1: crying in the women's restroom towards the end of the night.
Speaker 1: It was very nice of you and Dan and West
Speaker 1: to show up, but I can't figure out why Greg
Speaker 1: chose not to. Has he made it clear to you
Speaker 1: why he didn't want to be a part of the
Speaker 1: group gathering. It's been on my mind since I raised
Speaker 1: the issue to you last night near the front door
Speaker 1: of the bar. I like to speak my mind, and
Speaker 1: this is definitely still an issue to me. Just wondering
Speaker 1: if Greg might have unpacked his decision to ignore us all,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have been hard to stop by even quickly,
Speaker 1: but instead he has hurt my feelings. I think I
Speaker 1: have a right to express myself and tell you how
Speaker 1: I feel, and I hope that Greg will share with
Speaker 1: you why he's done this, Like, for instance, what do
Speaker 1: you think he was thinking when he decided to drive
Speaker 1: right past the bar to go do something else. It
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been that hard to park his car and
Speaker 1: walk inside the bar for a minute or two, but
Speaker 1: he kept driving into scar instead right back to his home.
Speaker 1: I presume I'm still thinking about this today and wanted
Speaker 1: to bring the issue back up with you in case
Speaker 1: Greg has made it clear to you or others why
Speaker 1: he chose to bypass last night's event in order to
Speaker 1: tend to his own needs and responsibilities. I am somewhat
Speaker 1: concerned about his choices, but I'm also still filling in
Speaker 1: the blanks about what he's done and what it means
Speaker 1: for me and the rest of our company. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Let me know if he says anything between now and
Speaker 1: when you leave work today about this very concerning choice
Speaker 1: of his. I'll leave the name at the end off,
Speaker 1: but I mean, certainly a long winded letter but she's,
Speaker 1: you know, she's a young lady in search of answers,
Speaker 1: and she really wants to know has Greg's said anything
Speaker 1: to you? Mark, As he explained, I think we got
Speaker 1: Greg's complete response earlier in the show. He could care
Speaker 1: less two thousand words. They're boiled down into one sentence.
Speaker 1: Why have you betrayed us? That's basically it. And Greg
Speaker 1: refuses to give an answer, So we'll let the you know,
Speaker 1: we'll leave it right there.