Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast takes no days off. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Kanzas, and I'm joined by a
Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg
Speaker 1: ros it All. What's up boys? Hey? Dan? What you creepy? Okay,
Speaker 1: weird smile. It's going that we are not a video podcast,
Speaker 1: and some would say thankfully so I agree with that
Speaker 1: right about now. That was strange, Greg, That's how you
Speaker 1: opened the show, just trying to shake it up a
Speaker 1: little bit. I want to make love to Greg, not
Speaker 1: after and also not before by the way. And it
Speaker 1: was Sydney I found out. Dan. I thought that you would,
Speaker 1: you know, set that entire car interview up just to
Speaker 1: get that kind of content out of me to assassinate
Speaker 1: me on a later podcast. But I found that's a
Speaker 1: lot about what you actually think about me. But going well,
Speaker 1: I mean, and then I find out that it was
Speaker 1: Sydney who did it, which change and just everything I
Speaker 1: think about Sydney. Unbelievable behavior by you. Sydney. I will
Speaker 1: say that the people called for it. I had a
Speaker 1: mask after that period, like a sheep. You just followed
Speaker 1: their orders and they did what they said. Don't listen
Speaker 1: to Mark. You did a great job. One of the
Speaker 1: hottest drafts of two thousand seventeen. Giving the people what
Speaker 1: they want is the role of professional wrestling. Not journalism, Sydney.
Speaker 1: What was Since when is this podcast journalism? We're a
Speaker 1: name of journalist. We're a narrative based group. We are
Speaker 1: not narrative based. That's some other podcast in this building. Wow,
Speaker 1: last fired up for a man wearing a like a
Speaker 1: Perry Mason button up. You're very fired up right now,
Speaker 1: first career cardigan. I've never worn a cardigan before. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about it because you are once again an establishment
Speaker 1: fixated on my shirt, right, and not only wearing the
Speaker 1: a button up cardigan. Um, you also have what looks
Speaker 1: to be a brand new white T shirt. I'm taking
Speaker 1: a picture of it the share with people used after
Speaker 1: we we finished today. It looks very nice. You look sharp,
Speaker 1: As my father would say, you look shop Danny. But
Speaker 1: also I've never seen you in and off it like this. Again,
Speaker 1: more evolution from West in a relationship. It was presented
Speaker 1: to me and the corner office downstairs, which contains a
Speaker 1: shadowy league figure I believe has issues with the way
Speaker 1: I dressed sometimes that I wore a hoodie on TV.
Speaker 1: Andrew Siciliana also took a shot at me on Twitter
Speaker 1: for wearing a hoodie, which I proposed was perfectly fitting
Speaker 1: for a Bill Belichick segment. I agree with you. I
Speaker 1: didn't know he was taking Were they taking shots of
Speaker 1: the man? Cat actually did on Twitter. It's if you
Speaker 1: don't want to take shots at the cannon, you don't
Speaker 1: bring a piece you due to a cannon fight. It happened.
Speaker 1: It's not like what West though too, take shots and
Speaker 1: then just fold you know what I mean to just
Speaker 1: buckle and say, I guess I gotta go card again.
Speaker 1: I don't have like prepped vengeance drops on a podcast.
Speaker 1: I just get my vengeance. I like it. Wes, You're
Speaker 1: a badass big show today, Like Today's show. I can
Speaker 1: get behind Today's show. Can't always say that. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: get up here and while one of you guys is
Speaker 1: just making some point, I'm thinking to myself, Damn, I
Speaker 1: can't get behind this show today, this show, but today's
Speaker 1: show we did. The tell tale part of that is
Speaker 1: when you then repeat something we just said, like right afterwards.
Speaker 1: That's when we know you're not invested in I was
Speaker 1: doing a bit, but now you're turning into an attack
Speaker 1: on me. Um, do you want a pre show? So
Speaker 1: it's nice to have a call back to the pre
Speaker 1: show grade every once in a while. Some good news
Speaker 1: to get to second week of unofficially this is the
Speaker 1: second week of free agency, so there's some good names
Speaker 1: still out there, some names that came back uh into
Speaker 1: the UH fold with a former teams or current teams.
Speaker 1: What that didn't make sense anyway? Uh, some good news
Speaker 1: to talk about a new segment that we haven't done afore.
Speaker 1: I'm excited about that. Um damn that this is not
Speaker 1: a good grade though the other stuff too, you're excited about.
Speaker 1: That was the last thing you were excited about. Yeah,
Speaker 1: usually I want to go higher, but in this guy,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the B minus. So a lot
Speaker 1: to get to. We Yeah, we're gonna do news and
Speaker 1: then we're gonna hit a segment that we will call
Speaker 1: about what teams are telling us and they don't even
Speaker 1: realize they're telling us. And that's what a lot of
Speaker 1: reveal mcnevo is. And if you and if you don't
Speaker 1: know what that is, UH, that is, say you're you're
Speaker 1: in a conversation with someone and they're they're talking to
Speaker 1: you when you're talking to them, and then they say
Speaker 1: something that's just an example, something profoundly idiotic, where they
Speaker 1: say something like super dumb, maybe super racist, whatever. They
Speaker 1: don't even realize they did it. They just hit themselves,
Speaker 1: and you walk away from that conversation learning a lot
Speaker 1: about that person, even they don't know that they just
Speaker 1: had class in session about themselves. That's what's happened in
Speaker 1: the NFL right now with teams. Oh, it's a good
Speaker 1: thing that we're here to see what entire franchises and
Speaker 1: organizations cannot see about themselves. Oh there's and there's one
Speaker 1: other thing coming up today, coming up later. We got them.
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler's text returns, Hey, what's this guy hide again? Anyway,
Speaker 1: there's another part to this. I was yesterday, my off day,
Speaker 1: and you know, early evening, this news from you comes
Speaker 1: over attached to a hideous photo of me. Hideous, pretty hideous,
Speaker 1: And I thought, what's what's the other side to this?
Speaker 1: So what's wrong with that photo? I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: like a grainy sort of a granualized It was a
Speaker 1: spposed to be kind of you know, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: I got dirt on this guy. He's not as squeaky
Speaker 1: clean as you thought. Bring it on. I'm excited to
Speaker 1: find out what you have on me. Bumping it up
Speaker 1: to a B plus. I forgot about the big Sessler
Speaker 1: tax returns coming up later today. But let's do it, said,
Speaker 1: Let's get into some news. Yes, Pete Carroll, we'll get
Speaker 1: to that in a moment. We'll start though. On the
Speaker 1: throne of ease, I mean again, yep, Danta high Tower
Speaker 1: staying in New England. Linebacker his agent announced on Wednesday
Speaker 1: that he has a new deal with the New England
Speaker 1: Patriots worth forty three and a half million over four years,
Speaker 1: nineteen million guaranteed. According to rap Sheet. That won't win
Speaker 1: me any sandwiches, by the way, and this comes after
Speaker 1: a total farce of a free agent tour that took
Speaker 1: him through uh Floren Park in New Jersey. It took
Speaker 1: him to Pittsburg. I think there was another stop in
Speaker 1: there somewhere. Uh not to how Tower. But the speculation
Speaker 1: all along was that he was just trying to drive
Speaker 1: up his price to stay with the Patriots and Chris
Speaker 1: wesling Um. The rich continue to get richer because now
Speaker 1: High Tower was one of the key parts of that
Speaker 1: defense staying in town, and they got him at a
Speaker 1: pretty good deal considering his ability. We've Greg has specifically
Speaker 1: mentioned a couple of times in this podcast at High
Speaker 1: Tower probably hasn't gotten enough credit for two game changing
Speaker 1: plays and the last two Super Bowl victories. Beyond that,
Speaker 1: he's Luke Carrett, Luke Keickley's primary competition for the best
Speaker 1: blitzing inside labbacker in football. And if you watch the
Speaker 1: sound effects from the Super Bowl, clearly one of the
Speaker 1: team leaders of the defensive leader along with Devin mccordy.
Speaker 1: This is this is the Patriots approach. They did it
Speaker 1: with mccordy two years ago. Let a nucleus player, a
Speaker 1: team leader, go out and establish his value on the
Speaker 1: open market. So you don't I think it's probably a
Speaker 1: little overblown, so you don't insult him with a low
Speaker 1: bow offer, but it's it helps the team if you
Speaker 1: know that you still have a chance, if if you
Speaker 1: can tip the scales with your Super Bowl window saying hey, look,
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna win. Here take a little bit
Speaker 1: less money, but we're not gonna insult you with the
Speaker 1: offer and then everybody wins. And by the way, while
Speaker 1: you go on your little journey to find out what
Speaker 1: you're worth, stopped by the Jets building that some cupcakes
Speaker 1: and turn the Jets into an utter embarrassment. It's if
Speaker 1: I'm a Jets fan, I'm furious about the fact that
Speaker 1: they catered to him with sweets and cupcakes when they
Speaker 1: had no idea. If they land mixed a cupcake in
Speaker 1: a brownie, I'm calling it a crowny. And they reportedly
Speaker 1: offered him more money twelve million dollars a Year's an
Speaker 1: embarrassing little nugget to to become news fodder. But I
Speaker 1: don't it made sense for them to go after him.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have not gone after him just because I
Speaker 1: had a feeling that it wasn't serious about leaving town
Speaker 1: and they made a very real offer. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just another disappointment. And to me, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: and we talked about this on our NFL network kid today,
Speaker 1: there's this real feeling to me. And this is not
Speaker 1: a shot against the Patriots, but more just about maybe
Speaker 1: the culture of the league shifting a little bit in
Speaker 1: the NBA and Lebron James and Dwyane Wade started this thing.
Speaker 1: But this idea of where now rivals will come together
Speaker 1: on a team. We start with Kevin Durant and Golden State,
Speaker 1: uh this past summer and they say, you know, let's
Speaker 1: all get get together, get the band together, and really
Speaker 1: launched something special together. I think this kind of points
Speaker 1: to me some of the craziness and some of the
Speaker 1: issues potentially with the salary cap now that it's so
Speaker 1: high that teams have. If you're run well, and the
Speaker 1: Patriots are run as well as anybody, you can really
Speaker 1: manipulate how much cap space there is, and they can.
Speaker 1: They're able now just bring in player after player after
Speaker 1: player despite having a loaded roster and now high tower,
Speaker 1: they could fit under the cap when you would think
Speaker 1: they would have no business being able to do it
Speaker 1: because they're well run and there's a ton of money
Speaker 1: to spend. Well. I blanche at the whole idea that
Speaker 1: they're loading up this year. If you really look at
Speaker 1: what's happened, they've just like they've barely had a net plus,
Speaker 1: Like they lost their te it end, so they replaced
Speaker 1: them with a lesser tight end. It's kind of their choice,
Speaker 1: wasn't it. Uh it was Martell's Bennett's choice, I think
Speaker 1: not to take their offer yet. And so they did that.
Speaker 1: Uh the one major move, by the way, you're the
Speaker 1: best tight end on plan on Earth, you know, on
Speaker 1: the roster. Also sure, uh Larry, you know, Toba Shear leaves,
Speaker 1: Larry guy shows up, Dante high Tower leaves. That's nice.
Speaker 1: It's He's also the one guy of their core defensive
Speaker 1: players that they did resign. The other ones are elsewhere.
Speaker 1: I mean, they took about five seven years where they
Speaker 1: didn't find any great defensive players. They found three and
Speaker 1: Jamie Collins, Chandler Jones, and Hie Tower. They only kept
Speaker 1: one and that was high Tower. They pick up Brandon
Speaker 1: Cooks because they gave him a better offer than the
Speaker 1: Titans or any other team would give the Saints. That's
Speaker 1: really the one major edition. They're getting stuff on Gilmore,
Speaker 1: but they're losing Logan Ryan and probably Malcolm Butler. Like
Speaker 1: if you kind of add up all the pluses and minuses,
Speaker 1: you yeah, sure, but they lost one starting cornerback. They
Speaker 1: picked up Gilmore. That's an ice, you know. Plus, all
Speaker 1: I'm saying is if you look at everything that's happened
Speaker 1: in totality this offseason, they don't seem like a totally
Speaker 1: different team. They seem like a very similar to Here's
Speaker 1: the thing, though, that Belichick is the most active trader
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Other teams even you know, three or
Speaker 1: four years ago, trade so rare in the NFL. Belichick
Speaker 1: constantly churning the roster, and his decisions eight out of
Speaker 1: ten times, if not nine out of ten, are correct.
Speaker 1: He correctly assesses when players should come into the organization
Speaker 1: and when they should leave. So yeah, you can kind
Speaker 1: of try to level the plane field there with that,
Speaker 1: with that, with that take on what they've done short
Speaker 1: but at the same time, the Patriots are operating at
Speaker 1: a completely different level than any other team we talked
Speaker 1: about on this podcast. I love the move to keep
Speaker 1: Eye Tower. I mean, don't get me wrong, I think
Speaker 1: what you said in terms of his leadership, not that
Speaker 1: we're around the team that much, but you know, just
Speaker 1: being at those Super Bowls and you know, reading like
Speaker 1: he is, it is nice to for them as a fan,
Speaker 1: for them to keep one of the core guys like that.
Speaker 1: They should have a couple of guys that that means
Speaker 1: something to them. I thought he would have broid the
Speaker 1: fans of Bone once in a while Patriots. I thought
Speaker 1: he would have been a great fit in Pittsburgh. But
Speaker 1: it didn't. It didn't work out. But he was a
Speaker 1: guy that made sense for them to go. You're you're
Speaker 1: at your heart, even though you try to distance yourself
Speaker 1: from it. You're a Patriots fan. You on this podcast
Speaker 1: year after year. You try to distance me, you tamp
Speaker 1: down whatever great things happening to the Patriots, and you're
Speaker 1: doing it again because this team seems significantly better than
Speaker 1: the team just on the Super BI. I don't see
Speaker 1: that we talking about the comparison to the Warriors at all. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Belichick is a team builder with fifty three players, and
Speaker 1: he's always going for the right mix of personalities and
Speaker 1: leadership and you know, locker room. It's why. It's why
Speaker 1: Jamie Collins isn't on the roster, and Chandler and Jones isn't.
Speaker 1: If they were built, if they were just collecting stars,
Speaker 1: those two guys would still be on the roster. But
Speaker 1: this is about building a team, and I don't think
Speaker 1: it's about It's not like they went out and got J. J.
Speaker 1: Watt that would be the equipment of getting Kevin Durand
Speaker 1: if Chandler Jones was a better value, he would be
Speaker 1: on the team. But he was worth fifty to sixty
Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed, and they knew they weren't gonna pay that.
Speaker 1: Dante Hightower, for whatever reason, I think this is stupid
Speaker 1: of the NFL. The teams don't value inside linebackers for
Speaker 1: whatever reason. He's not a huge difference maker as a
Speaker 1: pass rusher or a pass defender, and teams don't pay
Speaker 1: for that. So I think, so a lightly big linebacker
Speaker 1: who doesn't fit a lot of schemes, that's that's fair
Speaker 1: to He fit Pittsburgh, but it's like he's not valued
Speaker 1: in the market, so he kind of worked with them.
Speaker 1: If he was, if some team was going to pay
Speaker 1: him like a superstar, like pay him close to what
Speaker 1: you thought, you know, where he'd be the highest paid player,
Speaker 1: then then he'd be gone. In other Patriots news, they
Speaker 1: added another running back to the mix, Rex Birkehead, who
Speaker 1: had a nice season in Cincinnati last year. West You
Speaker 1: wrote in our piece on NFL dot Com that he
Speaker 1: outplayed Jooe Bernard and Jeremy Hill in the backfield for
Speaker 1: the Bengals, ranked number seventy two on our top one
Speaker 1: on one free agent city, and he joins in our
Speaker 1: crowded backfield already James White and Dion Lewis on the roster,
Speaker 1: um mark where does where does Rex Burke had fit in?
Speaker 1: And what's a very busy backfield even if Legarret Blood
Speaker 1: is not coming back. It's a good question. I I
Speaker 1: they paid him more money than any running back in
Speaker 1: New England has received since Fred Taylor away back when
Speaker 1: and to meet Fred Taylor, he was like forty I
Speaker 1: don't know those contract totals, but it was apparently more
Speaker 1: than anyone since three point one five Burkhead did for
Speaker 1: one year. I think that he's got a role in
Speaker 1: this offense. It's not just let's see if you can
Speaker 1: come in and be redundant with Dion Lewis and James White.
Speaker 1: Maybe they give him a chance to compete for earlier
Speaker 1: down snaps. I love the signing for New England. He's
Speaker 1: a good fit for New England. It was easy to
Speaker 1: see this signing coming. It's hard to see exactly how
Speaker 1: they're gonna use him. Bill Belichick pays premium for special teamers.
Speaker 1: Rex Burke had led the Bengals and special teams tackles.
Speaker 1: Last year, he drafted Devin McCourt Devin mccordy around higher
Speaker 1: than anyone else would because he saw him as a
Speaker 1: four down player with special teams value. He did the
Speaker 1: same thing with Patrick Chung. Special teams mean a lot
Speaker 1: to Belichick. He pays Matthew Slayer a ton of money.
Speaker 1: I think that Burkhead is gonna play on offense too,
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure if we can divine how exactly
Speaker 1: what his rule is gonna be. To West's point one
Speaker 1: of if you pay attention to Belichick's weekly press conference conference,
Speaker 1: especially ones of the conference calls with the media from
Speaker 1: the team that they're playing. When he spots spotlights different players,
Speaker 1: he seems to always bring up a special teams player
Speaker 1: that people don't really know that he's been watching and
Speaker 1: he likes on the play. I'm sure that he was
Speaker 1: scouting Burke's Brickhead for a while. And Dan Lewis was
Speaker 1: hurt last year. He got hurt in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: He's an injury prone guy. He's never carried the ball
Speaker 1: more than sixty times in his career. Like that's he's
Speaker 1: He's not Burkehead and James White, and people think, okay,
Speaker 1: early downs, is he a passing down back? I mean,
Speaker 1: James White's essentially started the Super Bowl, and these guys
Speaker 1: play early downs. They play first and second down, so
Speaker 1: most of their down they're passing downs I think they'll
Speaker 1: figure out how to use them later. I don't think
Speaker 1: they that's all planned out. They'll just see how it
Speaker 1: shakes up. But they think he's a good player. And
Speaker 1: it wouldn't surprise me if he plays more than either
Speaker 1: of those two guys. Yet. Lea Garrett Blunt got three
Speaker 1: d carries last year, which is more than just about
Speaker 1: any running back in football. Let's move on Darrell Rivas.
Speaker 1: He ain't going to the slama alright. A judge is
Speaker 1: dropped all charges against the former Jets cornerback stemming from
Speaker 1: a alleged assault in Pittsburgh last month. The thirty one
Speaker 1: year old cornerback um who's currently a free agent, I
Speaker 1: was facing five criminal charges attached to the incident that
Speaker 1: took place in Pennsylvania. Uh here's a revis told a D. D.
Speaker 1: King Kabwalla of NFL Network. What happened is in the
Speaker 1: past now and all I can do is move forward.
Speaker 1: And great you you felt very strongly about Rivas being done,
Speaker 1: not wanting to even play anymore. He's not gonna play
Speaker 1: for the money because here he has a six million
Speaker 1: for the Jets. I'll tell you what, We're gonna see
Speaker 1: Rivas again, in my opinion. And you know what, he
Speaker 1: dropped a big hint today when he let people know
Speaker 1: outside the courthouse that he's already down ten pounds and
Speaker 1: there's whispers that he's more than willing to play safety.
Speaker 1: Durrell's coming back, Greg and it's gonna cause the sandwiches.
Speaker 1: Uh where did you see the reports of any teams
Speaker 1: being remotely interested in paying him eight million dollars a year.
Speaker 1: Naturally they were gonna wait for the criminal situation to
Speaker 1: play out unattached. No one's paying him that money. Easy
Speaker 1: to see where this is going. Though he's already started
Speaker 1: the redemption tour. I'm willing to change my attitude. I'm
Speaker 1: willing to move positions. The next one is like, look,
Speaker 1: I know I have a reputation for being a mercenary
Speaker 1: and getting every penny, but football really means a lot
Speaker 1: to me. I gotta wake up call last year when
Speaker 1: I looked washed up. I don't want to go out
Speaker 1: like that. I'm gonna take less money to join a
Speaker 1: contender anyone who have me. I'm gonna rewrite, rewrite the
Speaker 1: last chapter of Mike and do not forget about that.
Speaker 1: But don't forget what Greg let me finished. Don't forget
Speaker 1: the tortured Jet fan angle, which is he is destined
Speaker 1: now after leaving the jetson winning a Super Bowl of
Speaker 1: the Pats, coming back to the Jets, of big expensive
Speaker 1: homecoming and bombing out now to have, as you put
Speaker 1: it Mark earlier today, an Indian summer run with the
Speaker 1: Steelers or whoever else will have him. He said the
Speaker 1: Steelers would be a dream come true. And he also
Speaker 1: said that, you know, the hunger to play is definitely
Speaker 1: still there. But that's the problem. The hunger was there
Speaker 1: last year. That's why he needed to lose those ten pounds.
Speaker 1: He just stole money from the Rats, the team you
Speaker 1: make Cook, that's the guy you make Cup. The rest
Speaker 1: of the NFL knows he just stole money. I don't
Speaker 1: think teams will even approach eight million dollars for Why
Speaker 1: do you keep saying that? Why do you think it
Speaker 1: has to be eight million dollars because he is playing
Speaker 1: for free. If it's under six million dollars, that this
Speaker 1: was the theory that you know that I threw out,
Speaker 1: which is that part is effect. Then there was a report,
Speaker 1: you know, from Pro Football Talk that said he his
Speaker 1: number would be about eight million that would make it
Speaker 1: worth him to play. I think he's still in the
Speaker 1: delusion that Okay, now I'm gonna put it out there
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm serious and I'm gonna go get that money.
Speaker 1: And I think if he's getting one year three million
Speaker 1: dollar offers, which is about where I put where he'd
Speaker 1: be three or whatever it is, I think he'll be like, no, sorry,
Speaker 1: I think you're under under evaluate he's not going to
Speaker 1: play for who he was for his entire career before
Speaker 1: last year, which was very strange both on and off
Speaker 1: the field. If he's if he's really dedicating himself to
Speaker 1: going out, I think he would take a pay cut
Speaker 1: and try to extend his career, like West saying it's
Speaker 1: not a pay cut, horrible free he is. He not
Speaker 1: gonna get money. He is making the six million dollars
Speaker 1: from the Jets regardless. So if he does not get
Speaker 1: more than that. He's playing for free. Okay, but he's
Speaker 1: still he gets to play and maybe write a different ending.
Speaker 1: I think, so you're buying this. You know, he's just
Speaker 1: gone through a traumatic experience, and a lot of times
Speaker 1: when that happens, you come out. Look at my eyes
Speaker 1: are open, and I'm gonna tell all my friends and
Speaker 1: family how much I care about them. This is a
Speaker 1: new me here we go. I mean, he's just come
Speaker 1: out of his experience. You think that Darrell Reevus, if
Speaker 1: he's on some crappy team and you know it's late summer,
Speaker 1: that he's gonna want to do this. I just don't
Speaker 1: know about team like it's He's It's kind of like
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson. It's like, yeah, you might be interested in
Speaker 1: our team's interested in you. Yeah. If he's in shape
Speaker 1: and he put some tape out there or something, I
Speaker 1: think he could get somebody interested in. But he's got
Speaker 1: to put his best foot. He can't still be Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm the guy with my agent blowing up my deal
Speaker 1: and he's got to be a new person from marketability.
Speaker 1: Of course I could be wrong and he could want
Speaker 1: to prove all that and you wind up winning those sandwiches.
Speaker 1: My point is, if you're looking at his history, what
Speaker 1: player is less likely in NFL history to play for
Speaker 1: free for the love of the game than Drrell Reeves.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's that many players. You're underestimating the
Speaker 1: redemption angle and the known fact in NFL circles that
Speaker 1: these players have to have storylines to drag on throughout
Speaker 1: the off season just to keep Mark Sessler employed. It's
Speaker 1: well said, and he was a ferocious competitor greg for
Speaker 1: this and hire career. Whatever happened last year, so I
Speaker 1: know what based on what we saw from him last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he probably doesn't care anymore. But if he has some
Speaker 1: type of come to Jesus moment, well that's what's happened,
Speaker 1: apparently come moment. Moving on, Eddie Lacey come to China
Speaker 1: food moment. He agrees to a one year contract with
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks. Uh the big running back um signs
Speaker 1: a deal that is worth five point five million, including
Speaker 1: three million fully guaranteed and um West. What does this
Speaker 1: deal tell you about Eddie Lacey in the year seen?
Speaker 1: Tells me the Seahawks are pretty generous. Tells me that
Speaker 1: the Seahawks might be making a mistake when they watched
Speaker 1: Thomas Rawls set the franchise record two games ago in
Speaker 1: the playoffs against the lines for rushing yards. That that
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey can give them something that Thomas Rawls can't.
Speaker 1: And I know that Lacey had the best yards per
Speaker 1: carry of his career last year in a very small
Speaker 1: sample size. I I beg you go watch. You can
Speaker 1: find this on YouTube. You don't need game pass. Go
Speaker 1: watch highlight clips of two thouteen Eddie Lacy when he's
Speaker 1: thirty or forty pounds less and his footwork is exceptional.
Speaker 1: He is not that back anymore. Well, the deal has
Speaker 1: three million guaranteed, and Pete Carroll has always been of
Speaker 1: the velocity. More running backs the better, Like Bill Belichick's right,
Speaker 1: they have ten on the ross. I don't think it
Speaker 1: has much to do with Rawls. They showed last year
Speaker 1: you need running back. Rawls is one of the most
Speaker 1: injury prone guys out there. Pro Sis is coming off
Speaker 1: an injury, probably not a three D touch type of guy.
Speaker 1: Lacey's you know, kind of on and off. So why
Speaker 1: not just add another talented guy? Carol. Carol talked openly
Speaker 1: about their being competition at the end of the year,
Speaker 1: and so I don't think they have a clear number one.
Speaker 1: We know that. And he also sounded very concerned before
Speaker 1: that final press conference about pro sises overall during ability.
Speaker 1: And I think there's legit reasons to look at all
Speaker 1: any of the guy that would be carrying the load
Speaker 1: there would be that Lacey's had of himself though. So
Speaker 1: it's but it's a it's a nice Seahawks type running.
Speaker 1: But let's not forget the other part of this though.
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey is at a crossroads in his career. Uh.
Speaker 1: It was reported that in one of the free agent
Speaker 1: visits he took, which were all around the same time,
Speaker 1: he weighed into two sixty seven pounds. And that's what
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll said. I want to big and I'm fine
Speaker 1: with it. And Marshaw Lynch played at two forty and
Speaker 1: all that, but that is a big boy. I think
Speaker 1: he was listed at two thirty four. Watch I don't
Speaker 1: think he ever was last year maybe during his p
Speaker 1: N I d X hight gran Mark which a little
Speaker 1: shot against the p N d X industry. That he's
Speaker 1: to sixty seven right now. Well, I mean I think
Speaker 1: with anything you do, some of these guys metabolism wise
Speaker 1: or habits wise. You know, weight is added on more easily,
Speaker 1: but you gotta stick with it. You can't do something
Speaker 1: for three weeks. He gets down to a certain weight
Speaker 1: and then you just ditch it all and you go
Speaker 1: back to whatever your habits were before. I don't know
Speaker 1: what should he what he's doing right now? Should he
Speaker 1: inch towards body by Audrina? Your new your new obsession
Speaker 1: that is not an obsession of mind at all. He's
Speaker 1: currently I believe he was doing a good It's not
Speaker 1: a good advertisement for the Fix, but that is It's
Speaker 1: a real thing though, because the twenty one days ends,
Speaker 1: then it's twenty one days is over. It's like you
Speaker 1: need to keep you had to have a maintaining regimen.
Speaker 1: I mean, West you you tweeted out that article about
Speaker 1: Lacey profile about him back in his rookie year, Tyler Dunn.
Speaker 1: He I think he's a different type of guy. I
Speaker 1: mean he's a He's a guy who I think needs
Speaker 1: to search for his love for football. Or he sounded
Speaker 1: like a depressed guy, like he never really gotten over
Speaker 1: what had happened with Hurricane Katrina and and Hurricane Katrina
Speaker 1: broke his heart. He was heartbroken and I don't think
Speaker 1: he's ever recovered from it. And this is an excellent article.
Speaker 1: If if any of the listeners want to search Tyler Dunne,
Speaker 1: I believe it was the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel and Eddie
Speaker 1: Lacy and Hurricane Katrina. You'll find the art cool. It's
Speaker 1: a really really well written article. Uh, let's move on
Speaker 1: one last thing about do the Seahawks deserve the benefit
Speaker 1: of the doubt when it comes to their offensive line
Speaker 1: and running game anymore? This is a team giving uh
Speaker 1: Luke jokele eight million for one year and the every
Speaker 1: year we we give them the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 1: You'll fix it, you'll figure it out. I don't know
Speaker 1: if they will anymore. I don't know what's going on there.
Speaker 1: I I don't think they've ever They don't deserve it.
Speaker 1: With the offensive line. I mean they that has been
Speaker 1: They've been trying to fix that for five six years now.
Speaker 1: They've done it. They've tried to do it different types
Speaker 1: of ways, and none of them have worked. Yeah, their philosophies,
Speaker 1: which had had it worked, it would have been you know,
Speaker 1: a revolutionary. We rethink how you build lines and stuff.
Speaker 1: But it's not and you can't just magically cook up
Speaker 1: an offensive line, especially at the tackle positions. Triplet triplet,
Speaker 1: triplet triplet. No. Julius Thomas, the new Miami Dolphins tight end,
Speaker 1: signed a big deal with the Jaguars two years ago
Speaker 1: and then was hurt constantly, looks slow. He definitely wasn't
Speaker 1: on the body by what is it? It is called
Speaker 1: the twenty one day fix. Where am I getting the
Speaker 1: body by your dream? I have no idea. What's the
Speaker 1: name of the woman that autumn caliber? There are no
Speaker 1: men named autumn autumn calibre. It's not body by Autumn though,
Speaker 1: it's SAMs, something entirely different. So Julius he looked, He
Speaker 1: looked like a big boy with the Jaguars and couldn't
Speaker 1: stay healthy. But guess what, Julius Thomas wants you to
Speaker 1: know that all of his injury problems are now behind him.
Speaker 1: Here's his quote. I don't really have any handicaps, anything
Speaker 1: that will hold me back, Thomas said v of Miami Herald.
Speaker 1: I feel really good. I know that I'll be able
Speaker 1: to play at the highest level I played in my career.
Speaker 1: So what a what a move by the Dolphins. They're
Speaker 1: getting obviously gonna get fifteen touchdowns from Julius Thomas. Will
Speaker 1: be the the old one with Peyton Manning. It's done, done deal,
Speaker 1: great signal it seal it up, lock it up, and
Speaker 1: we're rolling in the Pro Bowl. Talk about father time
Speaker 1: never lose in a battle. I mean, Julius Thomas can
Speaker 1: control whether he gets injured or not on a football field. Well,
Speaker 1: what how is that possible? Maybe he's on that twenty
Speaker 1: one day body by Adrina. I don't appreciate the knocks
Speaker 1: on this uh workout. That's not a back at very well,
Speaker 1: that's not a knock at all. Eddie Lacy might not
Speaker 1: be a great advertisement, but Mark Sessler is a walking billboard.
Speaker 1: I want to go. I need to start it. After
Speaker 1: looking at Mark's body, I haven't. I have a free
Speaker 1: set of DVDs. I'll in it too. You hello body,
Speaker 1: very good fire. Next topic? What was that? Next topic?
Speaker 1: Let's move on coming up later. Got you Mark Sessler's
Speaker 1: tax returns they call Mr Boone because he's got so
Speaker 1: many skeletons in his closet. Stay tuned, all right, you
Speaker 1: know what, we'll have to see what this is about.
Speaker 1: But this feels nonsensical to me. They often Rachel Rachel Maddow, Well,
Speaker 1: did you check that out? I refused to watch it
Speaker 1: on TV because I knew it was gonna be the
Speaker 1: biggest dud in the media? Hot tag you should have
Speaker 1: took that? Is that even hot? Like? Didn't everybody know
Speaker 1: it was gonna be a dud? What is a two
Speaker 1: thousand five tax return gonna possibly show? That's my question
Speaker 1: for Dan if that's what he's attempting to do to me. Coincidentally,
Speaker 1: the one I have procured also two thousand five. The
Speaker 1: Russians more involved in Marx? How is it gonna pay
Speaker 1: taxes when he doesn't have a job? Moving on, did
Speaker 1: you not have a job? Let's just say I might
Speaker 1: have a defender in the room that can, you know,
Speaker 1: help me out if I need some talking to on
Speaker 1: your part? I don't know. Let's move on. The Minnesota
Speaker 1: Vikings have signed wide receiver Adam Feeling to a three year,
Speaker 1: seventeen million contract with eleven million guaranteed. Nice little season,
Speaker 1: Adams coming a nice little contract for Adam Feeling coming
Speaker 1: off a season where you finished with sixty sixty nine
Speaker 1: catches for nearly a thousand yards of fourteen yards per reception,
Speaker 1: five touched, five touchdowns, was scheduled for restricted free agency um,
Speaker 1: but the Vikings want to make sure they kept them around.
Speaker 1: So now you got what you got the wide receiver corps,
Speaker 1: you got La Quantred Well, whatever is going on there?
Speaker 1: You got stuff on Diggs. You like him. He's a
Speaker 1: nice piece and a Theland. What do you think about
Speaker 1: this move? Mark? Well, we just talked about Thomas Rawls
Speaker 1: being two games removed from a career game. It was
Speaker 1: Theland whose two games removed from having two hundred and
Speaker 1: two yards against the Packers defense. I I think Theland
Speaker 1: we all grew to like am more as the season
Speaker 1: went on, in about four hundred yards over the last
Speaker 1: five weeks of the year, an integral part of their
Speaker 1: passing game. An impressive guy. Of course, you ressign them
Speaker 1: in my book, lad all wide receivers in catch percentage
Speaker 1: on deep balls last year seventy four, seventy four percent
Speaker 1: catch rate. It's exceptional. You need you need one more receiver.
Speaker 1: But that's a nice twosome right there. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: a that is a story to be a local tryout
Speaker 1: guy that got a seventeen million dollar contract that just
Speaker 1: does not. I don't know, there's not that many. And
Speaker 1: you know the last from Germany that didn't quite the
Speaker 1: mobile come back to us. I know that the enlightened
Speaker 1: sports don't. I know the enlightened sports writers of America
Speaker 1: have determined that you're no longer allowed to compare white
Speaker 1: receivers to white receivers. But there is a lot of
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson to his game. They also need Treadwell, who
Speaker 1: had one catch last year two, you know, live up
Speaker 1: to the draft stock at overall pick. We said there's
Speaker 1: one they're missing a guy. Hypothetically, it's the guy that
Speaker 1: they invested our first round pick and he needs to
Speaker 1: make um a big, big leap in year two. Is
Speaker 1: he gonna be making the leap candidate? Probably not, would
Speaker 1: be my guest. You gotta show a little bit of something,
Speaker 1: not unless who want to know. I mean that record
Speaker 1: with that series to continue, and this is a smart move.
Speaker 1: I don't think the vikingsvet a very good offseason, but
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy's get making less than Marcus Wheaton.
Speaker 1: He's getting making way less than Kenny Stills and and
Speaker 1: the other guys that signed as a nice deal. We
Speaker 1: haven't killed making the leap. Yet it is a horse
Speaker 1: that has been beaten on the ground for well, it's
Speaker 1: gotta it's gotta stick around for Chase. You know, the
Speaker 1: original making the leap, number thirty nine third seen Chase Daniel.
Speaker 1: It's gonna happen in the medal ends this year. It's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. By the way, I like the anytime you
Speaker 1: wanta dig in west On the e s a the
Speaker 1: enlightened Sports Writers of America, let us know, give us
Speaker 1: a little like take a little peel back the curtain.
Speaker 1: It's you know what, fifteen years ago when the first
Speaker 1: person mentioned it, maybe we shouldn't all be comparing these
Speaker 1: guys to the same race. It was great, and now
Speaker 1: the group think has shifted entirely the other direction, and
Speaker 1: the pitchforks and torches come out if you dare say
Speaker 1: that cool Beasley plays a little bit like West Welker.
Speaker 1: It's a good point. And yet it's not some uncomfortable
Speaker 1: it's not totally been rooted out. There was someone there
Speaker 1: was a Patriots fam I'm not gonna say who it
Speaker 1: was in our office that compared Uh, it was you,
Speaker 1: wasn't it, Chris Hogan? You know, compared Chris Hogan to
Speaker 1: to Julian Edelman and and come on, well you've just
Speaker 1: called someone out. Someone's going to figure out that story
Speaker 1: and it's gonna get back to them. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, he's not this little you know, we got
Speaker 1: all these little guys in the slot. No, he's a
Speaker 1: he's a huge physical receiver. It goes deep. That is
Speaker 1: That is the example. Uh, sorry about that, Kevin Petra,
Speaker 1: here's a here's a fun little story. UM. The NFL
Speaker 1: released UM two agents and others across the league their
Speaker 1: UH performance based pay system, Like of every player in
Speaker 1: the league on all thirty two teams, how much players
Speaker 1: got based on playing time and the player there was
Speaker 1: one player got the fewest dollars of anyone in the league.
Speaker 1: It was a name that we might be familiar with.
Speaker 1: We've talked about him a lot on this podcast in
Speaker 1: the last oh hell four years, but the last few
Speaker 1: months especially. Tony Romo played one series. Mark, do you
Speaker 1: remember what happened in that one series for Tony Romo?
Speaker 1: This year? Believe you let him let him to a touchdown.
Speaker 1: If I'm not mistaken, he did. He was three or four,
Speaker 1: uh through for like thirty yards and a touchdown and
Speaker 1: four that baked into his contract. He got sixty four
Speaker 1: dollars and eleven cents for that. What that was in
Speaker 1: his contract based on playing time? Interesting, I want to
Speaker 1: hear some other fun nugs A little low sixty four
Speaker 1: bucks to lead a team on a touchdown drive in
Speaker 1: the two thousand and sixteen NFL season, A little low
Speaker 1: you know who got the second most money in performance
Speaker 1: bonus Dak Prescott he got three fifty five thousand because
Speaker 1: he started every game. Reggie Bush, he had a negative
Speaker 1: rushing yardage total last year, still took home over fourteen
Speaker 1: thousand dollars for his efforts from This is from the league.
Speaker 1: It's not in your contract. It's from the league's you know,
Speaker 1: performance pay system. So there's no value judgment. They're just
Speaker 1: like Tony you you earned that. Extracits actually pays the
Speaker 1: team's back for this. Yeah, it's supposed to help out
Speaker 1: guys essentially underpaid on their rookie contracts. So, for instance,
Speaker 1: the Patriots rookie uh center David Andrews got an extra
Speaker 1: four dollars, one of the highest numbers I believe on
Speaker 1: this um list that basically doubled this salary and he
Speaker 1: didn't even know it was coming. Pat Panthers reserve guard
Speaker 1: Ryan Wendel played a single snap on special teams and
Speaker 1: seventy cents. Not bad that Reggie bush Cash is like
Speaker 1: an Osweiler level heist. Didn't he average negative yards per
Speaker 1: carry for the season? He did negative yard I knew
Speaker 1: you weren't listening to me before. For getting negative zero
Speaker 1: point seven yards percar. Here's the ultimate skin. Really, it
Speaker 1: really ruins his whole. Like Pro Football Reference and ESPN
Speaker 1: stats that the last number that you'll see from Reggie
Speaker 1: Busch is negative three. And he yeah, his name is
Speaker 1: not popped up in free Agency's Chase Daniel, by the way,
Speaker 1: who got seven million dollars last season to throw one pass.
Speaker 1: So he got seven million, and he also gets an
Speaker 1: additional two hundred and twenty eight dollars and twelve cents.
Speaker 1: So that's that's good take home pay for throwing one pass.
Speaker 1: Seven million dollars two the going rate for producing five
Speaker 1: to six hundred podcasts a year and writing upwards of
Speaker 1: three thousand articles. You don't want to know, you do know,
Speaker 1: Actually two and twenty eight dollars is like one night
Speaker 1: at the bar in l a um. And finally, I
Speaker 1: want to see what Mark would look like after three
Speaker 1: thousand articles. I'll show you. Go look at my author
Speaker 1: page about that. Justin Hunter. Uh was he a former
Speaker 1: second like fifteen a day? You know, well that's called
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve. Yeah, Justin Hunter. Yes, old second round
Speaker 1: pick of the Titans, the tattoon Uh Burmer making the
Speaker 1: leap once compared to Randy Moss. Anyway, Justin I just
Speaker 1: bouncing around the league a little bit. Uh. In his career,
Speaker 1: he has a seventy eight catches for yards and twelve
Speaker 1: touchdowns in four seasons and he so not a great
Speaker 1: prolific career, but he's he's staying in the business. He
Speaker 1: just signed a deal with the Steelers, which propped this
Speaker 1: tweet that Mark really are that Greg really got to
Speaker 1: kick out of The story isn't finished just yet, ashtags
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation. I mean, it's one of the greatest stories
Speaker 1: ever told. Who thought we were getting an epilogue? Got
Speaker 1: this one. People were waiting, people were waiting, it's coming back.
Speaker 1: He combines Martavis Bryant with Sammy Coates hands God forbid.
Speaker 1: The guy believes in himself I mean, come on, Mark, story,
Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna get behind this tweet in a
Speaker 1: big spot. I'm just saying, you know, he's getting absolutely
Speaker 1: destroyed on the show for having some sort of self
Speaker 1: confidence in his abilities. You hate when people have too
Speaker 1: much confidence. That's money. This this didn't. This seemed like,
Speaker 1: you know, a fair level amount of Hey, everyone has
Speaker 1: given up on me. I have not given up on myself.
Speaker 1: There's something equivalent if you like, worked at a gas
Speaker 1: station and then you got let go, and then you
Speaker 1: you caught on as a bus boy and Friday's yeah right,
Speaker 1: and then then over in the corner of the restaurant
Speaker 1: grag Greg is giggling at you and then giggling at
Speaker 1: your career. You went to your Facebook page the story
Speaker 1: isn't finished just yet. That would be ridicting Friday. You
Speaker 1: wrote a memoir called the Story Isn't Finished, the tale
Speaker 1: as old as time. Well, he's a millionaire and where not?
Speaker 1: So he wins. I have some breaking news, Wow, Marks,
Speaker 1: probably before reading this article in Popular Science and no,
Speaker 1: listen to this. Humpback whales are now organizing in huge
Speaker 1: numbers and nobody knows why. In weird parts of the world.
Speaker 1: Scientists have never seen more than fifteen or two men,
Speaker 1: humpback males, bumpback whales together, and now they are arranging
Speaker 1: in groups of two hundred or more. I saw a
Speaker 1: Simpsons episode about this. That doesn't sound good. When the
Speaker 1: dolphins rose up against the people of Springfield and took
Speaker 1: over the world, I think Mother Nature is gearing up
Speaker 1: for a fight. Yeah, why don't. Let's let's keep, you know,
Speaker 1: worrying about Wave three of the Free Agency. That's more
Speaker 1: important than this. You know, Sully's back in the building.
Speaker 1: By the way, everybody loves Sully, and he's feeling good.
Speaker 1: This is his third tour duty. He's coming into our
Speaker 1: ears telling us about some movies. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what you're talking about, Sully. Can you put them on
Speaker 1: the Kansas second guy like, yeah, you're talking about Simpsons
Speaker 1: and the Dolphins, Hitchhiker's Guide, The Dolphins take over the World.
Speaker 1: I do believe I didn't see that, you guys, I knew.
Speaker 1: I knew Cessor had had my back on that. I
Speaker 1: have not seen it, but I have your back in theory. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right, that's I mean, it's an I haven't read
Speaker 1: the books. That's like Ancessler slogan. Right there, I have
Speaker 1: your they mean, yeah, you know, I can't speak to
Speaker 1: it. It It sounds like good fine filmy. So it's good
Speaker 1: to have you back. Good, good to be back, fells,
Speaker 1: good to talk to you guys. He's coming in hot though.
Speaker 1: He's back on his first day. Daniel Jeremiah hadn't even
Speaker 1: said hello to him, and he comes in with like
Speaker 1: three different podcast ideas. I'm not going to be ignored.
Speaker 1: Jeremiah is just like, what did you say? What did
Speaker 1: you say? I'm not going to be ignored? Um? That Sully'
Speaker 1: is like coming in like it's senior year of high school.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like fatal attraction. Drop might have been
Speaker 1: Glenn Close. I won't be ignored. That's like some boiling rabbits.
Speaker 1: Let's not let's not put it on the Shadowy League
Speaker 1: figures radar. Sorry, Um yeah, that's senior year. Look, he's
Speaker 1: even he's coming in and out of the room behind
Speaker 1: the glass clearly does not have a lot of work
Speaker 1: to do downstairs. It's like it's all up to all
Speaker 1: his classes are electives. He's already like, um, he's going
Speaker 1: to college. He knows where he's going. He's going to
Speaker 1: sunny Buffalo. He's all locked in. I organized my classes
Speaker 1: last semester of college where I only had classes Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
Speaker 1: It was an absolute coupe eta over the school system.
Speaker 1: Sally's on the eight and skate program coming for eight
Speaker 1: hours and skate right out the door. All right, that's
Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. And Mark, sorry that we
Speaker 1: got on your boy Justin hunter a little bit there. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I I wasn't going to bring it up,
Speaker 1: but there was that met that specific making the leap
Speaker 1: west and Greg. It was sort of a he said,
Speaker 1: he said things where they both debated their their future.
Speaker 1: And I don't know who had what side, but someone's
Speaker 1: not right. I think I had I think I had
Speaker 1: the wrong side. I had the pro Justin Hunters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the wrong side. But little did we know that, Greg,
Speaker 1: would you know, take it out on Justin Hunter by
Speaker 1: you know, laughing and giggling at him and shredding him
Speaker 1: as a human. That's that's a fair point by Mark.
Speaker 1: You can't have it both ways. Supported you in the
Speaker 1: in the good times. Here's the good news of You
Speaker 1: also wrote the Chase Daniel making the leap, so he's
Speaker 1: still got him potentially as a starter of the New
Speaker 1: York Jets in a few months. I got Gina Smith
Speaker 1: is out there too. He's out there. I meant clinging
Speaker 1: on to that one out there is a nice way
Speaker 1: to put it. Talk about an advertisement to end that
Speaker 1: series on NFL dot com. Did you read, by the
Speaker 1: way the New York Daily News Minish meta takedown? You
Speaker 1: know Smith takedown cold blooded, my cold bleed. I think
Speaker 1: that reflected worse than Minisina Smith. We've had Minish on
Speaker 1: the show before he takes He'll take on the anybody
Speaker 1: in the Jets. He's kind of like the way Frank
Speaker 1: Ayasol is for the Daily News or maybe the ESPN
Speaker 1: now no Daily News. I think wherever he is for
Speaker 1: the Knicks and and Knick's ownership is trying to keep
Speaker 1: him out of the building. At this point, Minish don't care.
Speaker 1: I mean, he took the flamethrow if you just want to,
Speaker 1: if you want to read the column where a player
Speaker 1: is eviscerated like you've never seen before, there were no survivors.
Speaker 1: Was like Greg Rosenthal and Justin Hunter. I think I'm
Speaker 1: skating free on this one. All right, let's next segment,
Speaker 1: mag niv go what teams are telling us without even
Speaker 1: realizing it? And you have to be you have to
Speaker 1: have a keen eye for for the ways of the world.
Speaker 1: You know, the football cognis sent the They like to
Speaker 1: think they know what's going on. But this is a
Speaker 1: segment that shows that we are not just a narrative
Speaker 1: based podcast. West. We are peeling back the layers of
Speaker 1: the onion to let you know what's really happening with
Speaker 1: these teams. And by no means are you to go back,
Speaker 1: uh in midway through the season and listen to this
Speaker 1: show again. Just assume that what we're about to say
Speaker 1: is right. We have cracked the case with these teams
Speaker 1: before the season is even a twinkle in the eye
Speaker 1: of these teams because these moves that they've made in
Speaker 1: free agency. We're about to tell you what's going on
Speaker 1: with the teams they don't even know it yet. Mark,
Speaker 1: do you want to get us going? No, okay, West,
Speaker 1: would you like to get us I've got a couple,
Speaker 1: all right, get us going. Drop a lot of Ravil
Speaker 1: mcnive go on us. John Fox is already fired. Well,
Speaker 1: Why are you even playing out the season? Chicago Bearsie
Speaker 1: downgraded almost across the board, and everything you tried to do,
Speaker 1: you got Marcus Sweeten and Kenda right coming into replace
Speaker 1: Elshan Jeffrey. Mike Glennon is not as good as Jay Cutler.
Speaker 1: You might be. I don't know, as Dion sims the
Speaker 1: answer at tight end, what's going on there? How is
Speaker 1: this gonna go from a team that couldn't win more
Speaker 1: than a handful of games last year the one that's
Speaker 1: gonna flirt with five hundred. I don't see it, John Fox,
Speaker 1: pack your bags. One of the one of the great
Speaker 1: shocks in the history of the show is that the
Speaker 1: coach of the team that Mike Lennon signed with will
Speaker 1: be fired, according to West, huge shocker right there. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying you're wrong, Hey, I think you're saying they
Speaker 1: and Mike Glennon best can see that. Turns out they
Speaker 1: think that they're trying to compete, and you're saying they're
Speaker 1: not competed. Yeah. The law, Robbio Magnifico is you're probably
Speaker 1: even worse than you were last year. And I know
Speaker 1: you're trying to save jobs, but it ain't gonna way.
Speaker 1: They think they've upgraded their roster, they think they've gotten
Speaker 1: a younger, better quarterback. At this stage, they have overpaid
Speaker 1: for every other team's disappointments, and I don't see that
Speaker 1: as a way. Well, Mike Glennon wasn't a disappointment for
Speaker 1: the Bucks. I think, how do you how can you
Speaker 1: even say that? He started two years then they then
Speaker 1: they drafted Jameis Winston to replace him. He absolutely was
Speaker 1: a disappointment. They teams don't go out of their way
Speaker 1: to try to pay a disappointment eight to nine million
Speaker 1: dollars to not pay They liked him, but or they
Speaker 1: or they don't trust as well, they wanted to pay
Speaker 1: him to be number three. I agree, I essentially agree
Speaker 1: that the downgraded could Mike Glennon and have be better
Speaker 1: than Jake Cutler long term? Of course I think he could.
Speaker 1: He's played eight teen games in his first two years.
Speaker 1: I think, just deciding we know exactly what's going to
Speaker 1: happen from here on out, it's a little early. What
Speaker 1: are the odds, I'm saying, what are the odds that
Speaker 1: he's better than Cutler? This year? Yet it's not. It's
Speaker 1: not just the quarterback position. You take out the five
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and Bears fans have had one of the
Speaker 1: roughest roads around and it's undersold. I don't think that
Speaker 1: the ownership group in Chicago cares about winning the way
Speaker 1: that some others do. I really do not, and that's
Speaker 1: I agree with the West Foxes that Fox to some
Speaker 1: degree is the victim of what I think the whole
Speaker 1: team is doing, and it's not acting in a competitive manner.
Speaker 1: It's strange because I think Ryan Paced, the general manager,
Speaker 1: and Fox know that their jobs are on the line.
Speaker 1: So I think these are the moves done by a
Speaker 1: group that knows their jobs on the line, and this
Speaker 1: this was the You have to be given sign off
Speaker 1: to spend money in certain ways, you have to have
Speaker 1: an owner that's in there. It says they're spending money.
Speaker 1: That's not an argument. I just think that you did not.
Speaker 1: I mean, they did not go out. I like Glennon
Speaker 1: to some more than some do, but I don't think
Speaker 1: that you went out and reached for this for the
Speaker 1: absolute sky with your quarterback solution. I will throw out
Speaker 1: another Houston Texans are they're in a spot, uh and
Speaker 1: they they know it. I mean they realize that they
Speaker 1: bang themselves with brock Oswidler, and they were willing to
Speaker 1: um send him too the Browns just to get him
Speaker 1: out of the building. But now what they're doing is
Speaker 1: and I don't think they've made any formal overtures about
Speaker 1: how much they want to in a room. I guess
Speaker 1: they can't because he's under contract with another team. But
Speaker 1: everyone knows what's going on here. They've got Tom Savage
Speaker 1: currently in line to be the team starting quarterback, and
Speaker 1: this is a team that otherwise is really set up
Speaker 1: to make a run in the a f C. They
Speaker 1: have a chance, especially with j. J. Watt coming back
Speaker 1: to David Clowney the way he played last year. They
Speaker 1: have some really good defensive players in the mix there, obviously,
Speaker 1: but what are they doing. They are essentially praying for
Speaker 1: a Tony Romo safety net here to save their season.
Speaker 1: And having a safety net that is Tony Romo is
Speaker 1: like having a safety net with a hole in the
Speaker 1: center of it. Because Tony Romo is thirty seven years old,
Speaker 1: he's thrown four passes in almost two years. There is
Speaker 1: no guarantee that he is a guy that can do
Speaker 1: anything for you. Uh, in terms of carrying a team
Speaker 1: deep into the season or into the playoffs. And yet
Speaker 1: I feel like those Texans, they're putting themselves in a
Speaker 1: position here where they're either gonna be not even thought
Speaker 1: of as even an also ran this season, or they're
Speaker 1: gonna be get Romo and everyone's gonna say, oh, this
Speaker 1: guy is uh with this team is has the ability
Speaker 1: to take down the Patriots in a big spot. But
Speaker 1: putting all your eggs on the Tony Romo basket and
Speaker 1: the year ten there is not a bigger risk in
Speaker 1: the league right now. I don't even think the Texans
Speaker 1: realize how much of a risk they're taking by this
Speaker 1: being their only route towards the Super Bowl. So the
Speaker 1: basket is made out of Tony rome and the eggs
Speaker 1: are in there. And also the Texans are the flying
Speaker 1: will Nder Brothers and Tony Romo is the safety net
Speaker 1: with a hole in it. Mixed metaphors. Let's mix them up.
Speaker 1: Let's have some fun. They both work, Let's have some
Speaker 1: fun they I think they have put themselves in a
Speaker 1: corner where they have to get Romo. Everyone knows that
Speaker 1: the Cowboys know it, which is why they're holding onto him.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna work. That the Texans and
Speaker 1: theoretically the Broncos have done a nice job kind of
Speaker 1: calling their bluff and I think the Texans are going
Speaker 1: to get a chance to give him money and that's
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. I mean, they're sneak sneakily the most
Speaker 1: desperate team in the league. When you when this is
Speaker 1: this is this is where you've resorted to and it
Speaker 1: all it's it is the trickle down effect of what
Speaker 1: if you get him too or just risky that you
Speaker 1: might not get him. It's risky that your entire organization
Speaker 1: now is based around the hope that Tony Romo picks
Speaker 1: you or you're able to facilitate a move to get
Speaker 1: him into the building. That is tremendously risky. Uh in
Speaker 1: the year seventeen to ask Romo to basically make your season.
Speaker 1: But what I like though, because yeah, they're opening themselves
Speaker 1: up for a lot of critique if they don't get
Speaker 1: Romo and depending what else shakes out at the position.
Speaker 1: But how often, whether it's in sports or politics, whatever,
Speaker 1: people make a mistake and they just dig in, they
Speaker 1: don't acknowledge it. I love that they got out of
Speaker 1: this Osweiler contract. Anyway they needed to do, we'd be
Speaker 1: killing them all off season and deep in the next year.
Speaker 1: If they stuck around with Brock and because you took it,
Speaker 1: you swung for the fences with Osweiler and it didn't
Speaker 1: work out. I don't think that you stop taking chances
Speaker 1: at the most important position. I think you go get Romo.
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm just saying they aren't a fix. But
Speaker 1: your other option is that they do something. What would
Speaker 1: I guess the safe move would be to go get
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler, But it's safe and it's also a non
Speaker 1: galvanizing move. And we know what Jay Cutler's ceiling is.
Speaker 1: And if move would have been holding onto Oswald, what
Speaker 1: the safe move would have been holding onto which I'm
Speaker 1: very glad that they didn't think that showed mocks you
Speaker 1: to get out of the situation they were in. It's
Speaker 1: funny that the in our podcast prep meeting, we wondered
Speaker 1: how long will it take before Bill O'Brien does the
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen version of both those kids Can Play.
Speaker 1: While we were recording the podcast, we get an email
Speaker 1: James Palmer just said a hit on NFL Network, saying
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien is very comfortable with the notion of Tom
Speaker 1: Savage starting for the same Well, you say that, but
Speaker 1: this is a team that constantly I'm saying, and they're
Speaker 1: now waiting to find out if they gets they can't
Speaker 1: say Tom Savage is not a starting quarterback and then
Speaker 1: you get That's that's why I like the Romo thing,
Speaker 1: because you do have Savage, and we you know, we
Speaker 1: can make fun of him. We haven't seen him play yet.
Speaker 1: I think the Texans do like him. The Texans did
Speaker 1: make the playoffs with Brock Oswiler and you know a
Speaker 1: little bit Tom Savage. They made the playoffs with Brian Hoyer.
Speaker 1: So I think if the worst case scenario is Romo
Speaker 1: gets hurt and you have Savage, it's like, Okay, we're
Speaker 1: just back to where we're the last two years, where
Speaker 1: were a playoff team just purgatory though, I mean, they're
Speaker 1: not really a real but it's better. It's better than
Speaker 1: a lot of places that wish they were in purgatory
Speaker 1: and people are getting fired and the and the Texans
Speaker 1: are lucky that at the end of the day, it's
Speaker 1: a it's a complicated situation they're in, but they're lucky
Speaker 1: when you whip the way they whipped the brock Osler.
Speaker 1: And we talked about this when the signing happened, this
Speaker 1: idea that if you're if you're wrong about this guy,
Speaker 1: you're basically you're fired. Screwed. Well, you're fired and you
Speaker 1: screw your franchise for a few years because it leaves
Speaker 1: you in nothing. And then what do you do. You
Speaker 1: have to wait out this guy's contract. They're able to
Speaker 1: get rid of his contract, and now you have this
Speaker 1: borderline Hall of Fame quarterback that might have something left
Speaker 1: in the tech and you might have a chance to
Speaker 1: wipe out Oswelder entirely. So they're lucky, but also it's
Speaker 1: still really rich if it works out for them. The
Speaker 1: the entire a f C South should not be happy
Speaker 1: with the Browns. They're lucky there was a team out
Speaker 1: there willing to make a bizarre trade for brock Osweilder
Speaker 1: over under um half one half brock Oswallder starts for
Speaker 1: the Browns. The Vikings have revealed they have no clue
Speaker 1: what they're doing on the offensive line, They never have,
Speaker 1: and they're just desperate and they're just hoping that throwing
Speaker 1: money at a problem that they can't fix will work,
Speaker 1: and we'll we'll see if it works. They'll just pick
Speaker 1: two guys, uh In Mike Ramer's and Riley Reef that
Speaker 1: are on some of the you know these best free
Speaker 1: agent available list team You guys, other teams don't want
Speaker 1: plug them in at their tackles and just hope that
Speaker 1: they don't get fired after this year. At this point
Speaker 1: a year ago, we were actually lauding them for signing
Speaker 1: Andre Smith and Alex Boone because the Vikings were talking about,
Speaker 1: we gotta get tougher. We don't have an offensive line.
Speaker 1: We gotta get tougher. Mike. We were like, wow, Mike
Speaker 1: Zimmers really on top of things here. Though Andre saith
Speaker 1: no longer on the team, their offensive line was I
Speaker 1: would say the worst in a bad league of offensive lines,
Speaker 1: I would say they are the worst. And so they
Speaker 1: looked at the market. They decided to be the team
Speaker 1: that didn't care, and they just spent all the money
Speaker 1: they could on below average players and maybe maybe it'll
Speaker 1: help them, maybe it won't. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: other options are, but they're saying, we can't coach offensive lines.
Speaker 1: We don't know what to do with them, we are desperate.
Speaker 1: Let's just pray. You got to pray just to make
Speaker 1: it Today big Hammer hit about what the fellow scientists
Speaker 1: just said. I mean, it's a little he took the
Speaker 1: gloves off there a little bit. I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: reigning team of AD I'm just saying, that's what their
Speaker 1: moves are telling you. Is there telling you we are
Speaker 1: coming from a source of desperation. We don't know what
Speaker 1: to do. We're gonna try this. I'm not even really
Speaker 1: blaming them, because what what's their alternatives? They also signed
Speaker 1: Jake Long last year. It's like they're just keeping trying.
Speaker 1: They clearly have shown and I think there are some
Speaker 1: teams like this that they can't coach offensive lines very
Speaker 1: well because I think with the talent that they've had
Speaker 1: in that building, they probably should have been better over
Speaker 1: the last few years. So they're just hoping and they're
Speaker 1: on there like what fourth coordinator in the last you know,
Speaker 1: under third or fourth coordinator in three or four years.
Speaker 1: They're just hoping that these guys can solve it and
Speaker 1: save them otherwise. I think this is a group, especially Spielman,
Speaker 1: that could be in a little bit of trouble. I
Speaker 1: can't manufacture a defense for the Vikings after Gregg just
Speaker 1: eviscerated them. The analysis was pretty tight. Uh now you
Speaker 1: you Mark, We're getting to you. But I just I
Speaker 1: thought that was there some connected tissue. What Greg was
Speaker 1: just talking about? What you had a thought about another
Speaker 1: team in the NFL. Well, we've I mentioned the Bengals
Speaker 1: and Cardinals as teams that missed their Super Bowl window.
Speaker 1: And as as they are built right now, the Denver
Speaker 1: Broncos are right there with them that they have decided
Speaker 1: that coaching will fix their offensive line issues. And it
Speaker 1: wasn't just past protection. They're run in game disappeared last year.
Speaker 1: They have not fixed their tackle situation at all. They've
Speaker 1: decided Donald Donald Stevenson might after he was one of
Speaker 1: the worst right tackles in football last year, he might
Speaker 1: be one of those, as Vance Joseph said, basketball player
Speaker 1: type of guys with quick feet who can play left
Speaker 1: tackle with the right coaching. That requires a huge leap
Speaker 1: of faith. And I don't think they got better. Their
Speaker 1: run defense fell apart last year. He signed the motto
Speaker 1: dematta pico and a couple of guys. That's not an upgrade.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think the run defense really got
Speaker 1: much better either. How are the Broncos better in the
Speaker 1: toughest division in football? We've always praised Alway for really
Speaker 1: two things which could not make you a better GM,
Speaker 1: possibly a aggressiveness when needed and be caution or an
Speaker 1: ability to not be desperate, like for instance, lacked last
Speaker 1: year with broadcast how HiT's a certain point you let
Speaker 1: him move on, But in this case it was in activity.
Speaker 1: You didn't go out and get these guys. Now. The
Speaker 1: only thing I'd say is that some of these deals
Speaker 1: that were handed out to pretty average tackles are insane,
Speaker 1: some of the money that's out there. But you're right,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with the guys that were
Speaker 1: there last year? They suddenly going? They were not. It's
Speaker 1: not that they were young first year guys that are developing,
Speaker 1: in many cases aging old veterans that underperformed it. It
Speaker 1: is early and that's the thing. I don't know what
Speaker 1: There was no magic solution in these first four or
Speaker 1: five days, because what is the alternative? Elway goes and
Speaker 1: signed Matt Kalo for thirty million dollars guaranteed or Riley
Speaker 1: for thirty I mean he he did dip in. I mean,
Speaker 1: he gave eleven million guaranteed to Menelick Watson was kind
Speaker 1: of an underrated, you know move, but it's at this
Speaker 1: point not underrated, but overlooked, like because at this point
Speaker 1: he's their left tackle. I mean, I think they would
Speaker 1: like to probably get other options or in draft or
Speaker 1: spent four years trying to replace. That's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: all these guys that you're are trying to replace. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I even find fault with always approach. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, this is the state of your roster right now.
Speaker 1: And as much as I like Trevor Simmeon, we're not
Speaker 1: talking about it above average quarterback situational here either. So
Speaker 1: are the Broncos West. The Broncos if I had to
Speaker 1: predict ANFC West right now, would be my fourth place
Speaker 1: teat Wow. And that I mean so the lat Reveale
Speaker 1: macniv go here is that the Broncos without realizing they
Speaker 1: are revealing themselves as and also ran who watched their
Speaker 1: window closed because they could not build that offensive line.
Speaker 1: I think I would extend it beyond the offensive line
Speaker 1: to you are Medio grew at best at quarterback and
Speaker 1: your run defense absolutely got shredded last year. It's not fixed.
Speaker 1: All right, Mark, it is your turn later. Oh we
Speaker 1: got Mark Sessler's tax returns. Looks like Mr Squeaky Clean
Speaker 1: has been hiding a little Greek. Stay tuned. I cannot
Speaker 1: wait to find out what this nonsense is about. I
Speaker 1: do not have a negative Mr Squeaky Clean, I mean, please,
Speaker 1: we'll get into it. But by law, reveal is besides
Speaker 1: the tax return situation. Besides that, it's a positive one.
Speaker 1: No team in sports understands the laws of attraction better
Speaker 1: than the New England Patriots. I will explain why, all right,
Speaker 1: I just came up without a few seconds ago the
Speaker 1: next thirty minutes of the show. All we're being told
Speaker 1: now is that the Patriots are so happy with what
Speaker 1: they've done and they are going to make a run
Speaker 1: for the title next year, which is you know, we
Speaker 1: know that already that no way would they part ways
Speaker 1: with Jimmy G. Jimmy Garoppolo is staying put. But god
Speaker 1: forbid that Tom Brady, who's missed outside of suspension games
Speaker 1: in one season alone his career, where to go down.
Speaker 1: We'd be just fine with Jimmy G and everything would
Speaker 1: be there utter nonsense. They don't have a pick before
Speaker 1: number seventy six. They have laid the deck. They've added
Speaker 1: all these veterans, despite Greg's protestation that they've actually done
Speaker 1: no more or less than any other team. They are
Speaker 1: oating the deck with veterans that can help. And they
Speaker 1: understand that Cleveland now out there thinking, we're not just
Speaker 1: competing against other teams, we're competing against ourselves. If you're
Speaker 1: the Browns, here's what we thought we were gonna give
Speaker 1: up for Jimmy G. We're now competing against our former
Speaker 1: philosophy of what it would take to get them. We're
Speaker 1: gonna double down offer way more than anyone ever thought.
Speaker 1: We give up for a guy that started what two games,
Speaker 1: and we are going to completely lace the New England
Speaker 1: Patriots with a bounty of high picks to go along
Speaker 1: with everything else they've done in free agency. Because the
Speaker 1: Patriots have played this perfectly, and when you can't have
Speaker 1: something you want, you do all you can to get it.
Speaker 1: And the Browns think they cannot have Jimmy G now
Speaker 1: because the patient Patriots have done such a good job
Speaker 1: of this that Cleveland's gonna give up something they never
Speaker 1: A couple of months ago. Something no one thought they'd
Speaker 1: give up a couple of months ago very quickly to
Speaker 1: get them. What's the number one law of attraction? We
Speaker 1: chase that which retreats from us? M M. The Browns
Speaker 1: can't have him, so they want him, they want him
Speaker 1: more and more. It's almost like that was Wes's that
Speaker 1: was good. See Mark doesn't want to hear that. That's what. No. No,
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He was supporting very eloquently and really made
Speaker 1: a strong point. And he say, oh, that was basically
Speaker 1: I'm saying. He was supporting about an internal monologue. Please, um,
Speaker 1: good one, Mark, You're not gonna like what comes up
Speaker 1: later in the show though. How much later are we getting?
Speaker 1: And then we're at the doorstep of this segment. Do
Speaker 1: we want to do one more? Two? Or we should
Speaker 1: we move on? Should we get out of here? I'm
Speaker 1: fresh house, I'll throw one out there real quick. And
Speaker 1: I was just I was watching the Old Football Life
Speaker 1: of Matt Millen. I was revisiting it, and they talked
Speaker 1: about what a disaster it was in Detroit and he
Speaker 1: went from the Fox broadcast booth. He went from a
Speaker 1: great Hall of Fame level career is he in the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame as a player, okay, but a great
Speaker 1: player and some great teams. Uh, to the Fox Booth,
Speaker 1: highly respected, and then jumped straight into a general manager
Speaker 1: president type role with the Lions. And in this football
Speaker 1: life Ron Wolfe uh, of course the famous Packers general
Speaker 1: manager Um when asked what went wrong for Matt in
Speaker 1: Detroit and and and Wolfe said he underestimated the job
Speaker 1: the what was asked him. It's one thing to know
Speaker 1: what you're doing in the booth and another thing, uh,
Speaker 1: to really handle the role of building an actual football team.
Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not saying that John Lynch has
Speaker 1: done and John Lynch is going to be a disaster.
Speaker 1: But and Greg you wrote about this in your piece
Speaker 1: about the Winners Losers of free agency, that John Lynch
Speaker 1: as a total neo fight in the world of negotiations
Speaker 1: of contracts. It seemed like he might have locked in
Speaker 1: on guys and just said I'm going to get these
Speaker 1: guys no matter what. A lot of money spent. Maybe
Speaker 1: not all the signings were bad. And Greg, you can
Speaker 1: help me out with breaking down who who's on that
Speaker 1: team and who you thought got over pay aid. But
Speaker 1: the fact that Matt Millen is like the benchmark for
Speaker 1: the worst GM anybody remembers. And John Lynch has followed
Speaker 1: the same path in terms of zero experienced guy, and
Speaker 1: now he's spending wildly in free agency. And I'd just
Speaker 1: be a little worried if it's revealing how truly inexperienced
Speaker 1: John Lynch is and and also revealing maybe how desperate
Speaker 1: the Niners are to hit on something too too in
Speaker 1: this in this great hope with six year contracts being
Speaker 1: handed out, we're gonna finally get it right with this
Speaker 1: young hotshot GM. But it just all feels like a
Speaker 1: bit of a hail Mary. It seems a little bit
Speaker 1: scary because we don't know how this is gonna go.
Speaker 1: That's the big reveal from me there. And I heard
Speaker 1: from forty Niners fans. Were they angry with you about
Speaker 1: the piece? Yeah, and their pointing, well, you know they
Speaker 1: have other guys that are actually negotiating the contract like that.
Speaker 1: That's not the point they It's that they're in such
Speaker 1: a hurry that these are the guys we have to get.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a huge market out are necessarily
Speaker 1: for you know, Malcolm Smith and Goodwin and and some
Speaker 1: of these guys, and most of the contracts aren't crazy.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of like use check that that were wacky.
Speaker 1: It's more that most teams, I think the way you
Speaker 1: do business, you set a value for players. You don't
Speaker 1: just make a list of ten players that we have
Speaker 1: to get. We have to sign him in the first
Speaker 1: two days. So yeah, maybe he's not across the tail
Speaker 1: table negotiating every last thing, but he's telling his front
Speaker 1: office get them signed today, like gotta get Logan Paulson
Speaker 1: signed on day one. Can't can't wait for day day
Speaker 1: two or three, And so it just seems like they're
Speaker 1: trying to solve their team's problems all in one. Maybe
Speaker 1: it works out, but most of these guys are just
Speaker 1: kind of like middle tier players getting a lot of money.
Speaker 1: I've noticed something about forty Niners fans. Jets fans have
Speaker 1: accepted their fate. This year is going to be a wash.
Speaker 1: Browns fans have known for a while what they're dealing with.
Speaker 1: Forty Niners fans are in denial more than any fan
Speaker 1: base in the league. And this has been going on
Speaker 1: for at least eighteen months. Now that your roster has
Speaker 1: been Barren and you just have have refuse to admit it.
Speaker 1: And now you're your g appears to be a little
Speaker 1: in over his head and you refused to admit that too.
Speaker 1: Is Kyle Shanahan completely not a part of this. I
Speaker 1: mean they they've talked the first minute that we're in
Speaker 1: lockstep everything that the GM is doing, the coaches signing
Speaker 1: off on experience. I get the sense this list of
Speaker 1: players to get is a lot of it's probably from
Speaker 1: Shannion because some of them, well there aren't. They essentially
Speaker 1: trying to quickly give him a version of what he
Speaker 1: had last year. And and the good thing about it
Speaker 1: is like it's gonna be trying to quickly do anything
Speaker 1: but that. But that's what they But you know, at
Speaker 1: the same time, if you go, if they go to
Speaker 1: sleep and do nothing, you're walking. Cleveland had the worst
Speaker 1: record in the league last year, The Niners had the
Speaker 1: worst roster, and so you so they are quickly trying
Speaker 1: to eight they they're dumping a bunch of people they had.
Speaker 1: They have a double need for more people. And I
Speaker 1: think all I'd say is this if next offseason, when
Speaker 1: they have a full, you know, year together, that they
Speaker 1: attack free agency. If that's the word what you want
Speaker 1: to use, over aggressively and over pay and do it
Speaker 1: the same way. We got an issue. If there's a different,
Speaker 1: more patient approach when they have a bigger idea of
Speaker 1: what kind of team they are next year, then I'd
Speaker 1: pile on Lynch. I just I think, hey, it's not
Speaker 1: it's early, but it's also I'm already on this. Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan is just the most perfect person that we've ever
Speaker 1: seen on the earth. This guy's part, it's big on
Speaker 1: my radar, it's on Mark's radar, it's on your radar.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have anything to do with the sour way
Speaker 1: as Brown's tenure ended, does it. I think he was
Speaker 1: fair to want to leave the Browns, to be honest,
Speaker 1: I mean I think that he probably you know, but
Speaker 1: it's it's not just Cleveland that there have been issues
Speaker 1: with with him. I think it's very talented to I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe he turns the whole thing around. It kind of
Speaker 1: take some time, all right, we're out of time. That's
Speaker 1: bad news. Because Mark's tax returns, that is that's a
Speaker 1: big story. What's the payoff? We're at a time Dan
Speaker 1: Dan leving out, Dan Learning that I made about two
Speaker 1: hundred and eight dollars in two thousand and five. So
Speaker 1: I can't believe you just beat Rachel Man out. We're
Speaker 1: out of time. What do you want to I mean,
Speaker 1: we can't do. We can't sit here all day. We
Speaker 1: got other jobs here. I would love I would love
Speaker 1: to dig through marks two thousand five taxs return. We're
Speaker 1: out of time. Maybe Friday Show, come on back. Don't
Speaker 1: even double down on this. This paid off so beautifully
Speaker 1: just because West is actually upset and I love it.
Speaker 1: I thought there was gonna be a bit at the oh,
Speaker 1: but West the bit was the setup, don't you see now?
Speaker 1: All right? I wish I had his tax returns. That'd
Speaker 1: be fun, highly mundane. I am not. I've never been
Speaker 1: on the I R S is rate. I mean West was.
Speaker 1: West was like a kid on Christmas morning. He gets
Speaker 1: downstairs and his parents tell him he's Jewish? Is crazy?
Speaker 1: Or or real life? With like seven boys in the house,
Speaker 1: you get downstairs and you have to share one firetruck.
Speaker 1: It could have been a lot of toys, right boy?
Speaker 1: All right, I don't want to this. I don't want
Speaker 1: to unpack those memories. Oh no, but if you come
Speaker 1: back Friday'll you hear all about Wester's childhood, even the
Speaker 1: dark parts, including Christmas morning. For congratulations, I just unwrapped
Speaker 1: a new cinder block. Ouch, got real. All right, we'll
Speaker 1: be back on Friday. Like we said, we tape a
Speaker 1: podcast Friday morning, uh here in Los Angeles, and we'll
Speaker 1: get it out to you as soon as possible. Uh So,
Speaker 1: thank you to everyone for listening. Uh and that's it.
Speaker 1: Let's go let's go home. I would say let's go home,
Speaker 1: but we're not going home. We're going back to work. Whatever.
Speaker 1: This is Dan Hanson signing off for a Quiet Storm,
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