Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast has problems, but free agency eight.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by
Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg
Speaker 1: Rosa thought what's up boys? Hey Dan? Apologies to the
Speaker 1: listeners missed the show on Friday. The minute we're all
Speaker 1: going upstairs, I got a call from around. Hysterical is
Speaker 1: a strong word. I get in trouble for saying my
Speaker 1: wife has hysteric but a very upset Emily, saying that
Speaker 1: she had been in a car accident nearby a few
Speaker 1: miles away. Everything okay healthwise for my wife and our
Speaker 1: baby in the back seat, But the car, it's over.
Speaker 1: For the car, it's older, over for the old Zeuster
Speaker 1: having a little extra pocket change this summer. So I mean,
Speaker 1: we're glad to hear she's doing fine. That's the most
Speaker 1: important part that that Harry and Emily are fine. But
Speaker 1: daddy's bank account takes a pop, and it missed an
Speaker 1: important podcast. So these are like the negatives. And we
Speaker 1: have no car now, are we? You know? So there's stuff,
Speaker 1: But that's why I missed the show. I was bummed
Speaker 1: to miss it because when an action packed so I'm
Speaker 1: sure it was. Yeah, I mean the positives were the
Speaker 1: first three news stories of the day, getting an entire
Speaker 1: forty five minutes of airtime without you here. You gotta
Speaker 1: keep things moving. Do you feel like? I mean, it's
Speaker 1: you did the right thing I think in terms of
Speaker 1: your family, But you feel good about putting you know,
Speaker 1: family needs and concerns above the podcast. Well, it's funny
Speaker 1: should say that because I had it happened so soon
Speaker 1: before the show that I had the budget, the rundown
Speaker 1: in my hand that I had been working on for
Speaker 1: like an hour. That just handed it to Greg and said,
Speaker 1: Greg gotta go. Emily has been an accident. And Greg
Speaker 1: gave me a look like, are you sure that is
Speaker 1: not Greg rusy fold by a name? Is he something? Friends? On?
Speaker 1: This is the Judd Apatow movie. Let's trim it down
Speaker 1: a little bit. Who was that? That came from Chris
Speaker 1: Kana in London? By the way, Dan's now gotten full
Speaker 1: damage that he's testing out bits for the show before
Speaker 1: the show like he did this one before at his death. No,
Speaker 1: I I gave Greg the rundown. Then Greg did give
Speaker 1: me a look, but I think it was more like
Speaker 1: you were a little shocked. Of course I was shocked.
Speaker 1: I was because all I heard was she was in
Speaker 1: a terrible But the look you gave me was enough
Speaker 1: for me to think for a second to myself, I
Speaker 1: was leaving the building. Oh my overreacting? Should I not
Speaker 1: be leaving right now? Of course I made the right decision.
Speaker 1: I was just that was the last thing, because you
Speaker 1: were kind of I've never seen Dan's eyes and just
Speaker 1: he was very panicked, which I would be. It was
Speaker 1: not panic, not in this situation. You look like you
Speaker 1: need you needed me to get out of the conversation
Speaker 1: that I was in. I was talking to someone else
Speaker 1: actually about our up to the minute hit, which people
Speaker 1: should check out. We have another one today Monday. I
Speaker 1: guess it's too late, but you can check it on TVR,
Speaker 1: check it online, uh to two o'clock now Easter and
Speaker 1: every year you were in the middle of telling some
Speaker 1: sort of a story there and then yeah, I was
Speaker 1: talking to the producer of the show, and but Dan
Speaker 1: was kind of like moment and this conversation yea, and
Speaker 1: then then I was out. Well, one last thing, the
Speaker 1: three of us without knowing if the situation was resolved,
Speaker 1: you know, uh positively, which it was ultimately. But we
Speaker 1: we've forged on into the show bravely without knowing the
Speaker 1: how the whole thing wound up. Do you think more
Speaker 1: of us the fact that we're able to get into
Speaker 1: the chairs in that position and and get through with
Speaker 1: the show the way we did in an excellent fashion?
Speaker 1: I think I think you know the answer to that.
Speaker 1: All Right, big show today, sponsored of course by St.
Speaker 1: Flames Economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands. Um, we'll
Speaker 1: get into a little bit later. We also has a
Speaker 1: foursome had a nice getaway day and pomp Springs for
Speaker 1: gonzos forty birthday, but maybe we'll talk about that a
Speaker 1: little bit later. What does this turn this up? What
Speaker 1: is this you've been missing, young catchy little one? Just
Speaker 1: one little nugget from the journey. Mark and I drove
Speaker 1: up um West and his paramour got there a day earlier.
Speaker 1: Greg got there a little before us. Mark and I
Speaker 1: went to stop it up a bar and we asked
Speaker 1: a woman on the street working as a hostess, said, hey,
Speaker 1: is there like a good bar? And Palm Springs is
Speaker 1: a hotbed? Uh, for the gay community, and she kind
Speaker 1: of looked at us and said, you're looking for a
Speaker 1: gay bar or regular bar? And uh it was at
Speaker 1: that moment that I realized that, oh, wow, we do
Speaker 1: kind of look like I'm the bear and you're the other.
Speaker 1: What what's not a bear in that community? Would be?
Speaker 1: Be you? Well? And we're good couple, we are. And
Speaker 1: we arrived in a car with a you know, a
Speaker 1: child's seat in the back, and so it looked like
Speaker 1: we were, you know, getting away from our own kids
Speaker 1: for the weekend. So good for us. Not too far
Speaker 1: from the truth, all right, Greg, all right, So yes,
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the news. Uh. This is now
Speaker 1: one week almost into free agency. So where have where
Speaker 1: do we stand? What's happened since the last time we
Speaker 1: uh had a podcast which was taped Friday morning here
Speaker 1: in l A. And then we're gonna do some winners
Speaker 1: and losers of the first week of free agency. So
Speaker 1: that all sounds fun. Let's get right to it, Uh,
Speaker 1: last seed behind the glass, Let's do some news. I
Speaker 1: want to make love to Greg. What on earth was
Speaker 1: that pulled from I have no words? Likes? Is sneaky? Diabolical?
Speaker 1: Sometimes that had nothing to do with me. That came
Speaker 1: from the live periscope video Greg that Mark and I
Speaker 1: did in the car from I gotta check this out
Speaker 1: and there was a um F Mary Kill of your
Speaker 1: asked f Mary Kill of the podcast group and uh,
Speaker 1: and I guess what Mark said, at some point we
Speaker 1: have to play this. I want to make love to Greg.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I was that was a statement
Speaker 1: or if I was going through the options. I believe
Speaker 1: I was going to You have to listen to it.
Speaker 1: Everybody check it out on on my twitter feed. A
Speaker 1: market retweeted it as well, Well, Mark's facing does not
Speaker 1: want you. Yeah. I think maybe the um champagne I
Speaker 1: had with our brunch breakfast had a part to do
Speaker 1: with that, some part to do with it. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: go going here, and let's start with some big retirement news.
Speaker 1: Everybody loves retirement news. DeMarcus where one of the best
Speaker 1: pass rushers of the last decade. It's over. He's decided
Speaker 1: that he will end his career. Announced Monday that he's
Speaker 1: retiring from football at age thirty four. Sent out on
Speaker 1: social media a little a little speech or a little
Speaker 1: um statement about his retirement ending a twelve year career
Speaker 1: with a hundred and thirty eight and a half sacks.
Speaker 1: That's that's top ten all time, that's eighth most. Also
Speaker 1: got a Super Bowl ring, of course, last year with
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. And uh, here's the question les great
Speaker 1: career the Broncos. I guess we're moving on. He didn't
Speaker 1: see a great market maybe or maybe he just decided
Speaker 1: to leave. But is being the eighth rank sacker of
Speaker 1: all time with the ring? Is that enough? Is this
Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame player? The Hall of Fame voting
Speaker 1: body is one of the more unpredictable masses in America,
Speaker 1: But I believe he's a first ballot Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: whatever that means to these voters. I think, DeMarcus, where
Speaker 1: is the s pass rusher of his era? What made
Speaker 1: him special? In your opinion? He got a lot of
Speaker 1: comparisons to Lawrence Taylor. I think an explosive first step,
Speaker 1: very athletic, and a high motor, all those things together.
Speaker 1: And then I think also one of the most respected
Speaker 1: teammates and opponents of his generation and a small school
Speaker 1: guy who got taken over Shawn Merriman one pick ahead
Speaker 1: of Shawn Merriman, And there were a lot of debates
Speaker 1: that year with more people being on the Shawn Merriman
Speaker 1: side was kind of the bigger name. Where was one
Speaker 1: of those guys you didn't know, like what position he
Speaker 1: was gonna play as the A three four outside linebacker?
Speaker 1: Uh the Cowboys? You know, Jerry Joe's made a lot
Speaker 1: of good draft picks over the last twelve or thirteen years,
Speaker 1: but none better than DeMarcus whaere I mean that's in
Speaker 1: a draft where Cadillac Williams, Ronnie Brown, Troy Williamson, Carlos Rogers,
Speaker 1: Mike Williams was taken one pick ahead of DeMarcus where
Speaker 1: Matt Millan said that was the biggest mistake of his
Speaker 1: entire career. Arctic find the top ten list for that
Speaker 1: and where I mean where to do it? To have
Speaker 1: done it in two different uh, kind of iconic teams
Speaker 1: and franchises and get the Super Bowl with Denver that
Speaker 1: you couldn't get in Dallas, and you just can't write
Speaker 1: a career like that. That reminds me of what I
Speaker 1: was doing research for the pain rankings and writing about
Speaker 1: Matt Millen for the Lions that they he had decided
Speaker 1: to Marcus Ware would be their pick because they had
Speaker 1: taken wide receiver uh the year previous, I believe maybe
Speaker 1: two years before that, they had kept drafting wide receivers
Speaker 1: and he woke up Draft Day and decided, I'm going
Speaker 1: with Mike Williams. And I think his son, Matt Millan's
Speaker 1: son said something really striking in the in the NFL documentary,
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, you're an idiot, dad, what
Speaker 1: are you doing? And it turned out to be the
Speaker 1: nail in his coffin, the one thing. I mean, these
Speaker 1: guys come through the building once in a while. And
Speaker 1: I got lucky enough to talk with DeMarcus Where for
Speaker 1: an interview before the summer, before the Broncos won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, and you know, no Super Bowl ring, and
Speaker 1: he was wondering if that would happen in career. But
Speaker 1: also the thing that struck struck me about him, him
Speaker 1: and von Miller, that he was saying that von Miller
Speaker 1: was teaching things to him, he was teaching things to
Speaker 1: von Miller about pass rush technique, that he was such
Speaker 1: a curious player, he kept wanting to get better and improve.
Speaker 1: He wasn't there was no hey, I've done this before.
Speaker 1: I know exactly how to make the most of my skills.
Speaker 1: He kept learning. He said he learn an entire new
Speaker 1: pass rush technique from von Miller, that he helped him
Speaker 1: have a great, you know season, the previous one and
Speaker 1: also the year after, so incredibly athletic, blew up the combine.
Speaker 1: But I think other players talk about him as a technician,
Speaker 1: a guy who had all sorts of moves. You could
Speaker 1: set the edge, you could do everything. You know. The
Speaker 1: NFL research said out most career sacks per game in
Speaker 1: NFL history. Number one on that list is Reggie White.
Speaker 1: Number two on that list is Lawrence Taylor, and DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Ware is number three. That's a first ballot, there's no doubt.
Speaker 1: Plus the fact that the reporters love him all. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, if he hung around a couple more
Speaker 1: years and maybe got two hundred fifty sacks and moved
Speaker 1: into the top five or whatever, that wherever that would
Speaker 1: plays him might help him. But he's one of those
Speaker 1: like all time good guys that everyone loves. So you've
Speaker 1: all these things together. Not even Bill Poolly and can
Speaker 1: find fault with his Hall of Fame candidates. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on. So congratulations to you, Mr ware on
Speaker 1: a handsome man, I mean known as as one of
Speaker 1: the better looking men. And a lot of that talk
Speaker 1: early in today's show just about men and you know,
Speaker 1: just sexuality. It's just a strange podcast so far on
Speaker 1: that front. Well, we cover any topic that we feel like, Yeah,
Speaker 1: nice Henley shirt by the way, hugs your shoulders. Well,
Speaker 1: didn't know your body. Well, I never knew these were
Speaker 1: called Henley's until recently. Is that Has that been something
Speaker 1: that's always existed the New England Patriots. Let's move on
Speaker 1: to the throne of ease. My goodness, I was hoping
Speaker 1: I missed all this on Fronday. I would have been
Speaker 1: the one positive. But apparently this stuff went down after
Speaker 1: the podcast. Brandon Cooks, we had heard that the Patriots
Speaker 1: had attempted to procure the wide receiver for their first pick,
Speaker 1: first round draft pick. It didn't work out. A couple
Speaker 1: of weeks later, or maybe a week later, it does
Speaker 1: happen because the Saints traded Cooks to the Patriots in
Speaker 1: exchange for a package that includes New England's first round pick,
Speaker 1: number thirty two. Uh. The Patriots also send New Orleans
Speaker 1: a two thousand seventeen third round pick um and uh
Speaker 1: they get back the Saints fourth round pick number one
Speaker 1: eight teen and Greg Rosenthal. You have to be loving
Speaker 1: this move because the Patriots no dearth of playmakers on
Speaker 1: their offense. But this guy brings a different skill set
Speaker 1: to that offense. He's got deep speed, he can move
Speaker 1: inside and out. Is a logical successor to Julian Edelman
Speaker 1: if Julian Edelman ever left in free agency. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is kind of what the Patriots are doing these days.
Speaker 1: They bring in replacements while the guys are still on
Speaker 1: the roster. And that was the one thing that I
Speaker 1: felt a little mixed about is what does this mean
Speaker 1: for Malcolm Butler, I mean, rather for Julian Edelman in
Speaker 1: his career moving forward. Kind of the same conversation we
Speaker 1: had with Stephan Gilmore. But it just gives Tom Brady
Speaker 1: so many options this year, I would think. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's everyone, you know, the diet's great and every that's
Speaker 1: all important, but this is what will keep you young,
Speaker 1: like having seven different good players to throw to. This
Speaker 1: is the best Patriots offense on paper, I think since
Speaker 1: two thousand seven, and on paper, their best deep threats
Speaker 1: since Randy Moss. They haven't had that outside receiver in
Speaker 1: New England. But isn't there some risk with this, considering
Speaker 1: the history of Tom Brady and bringing in receivers from outside.
Speaker 1: If you're not on the same page with him and
Speaker 1: your in your route reads, you find yourself ostracized. They
Speaker 1: must have done their homework on him, is he It's
Speaker 1: not just can you run fast and do X Y
Speaker 1: and Z Well. Belichick loves him. He said two years
Speaker 1: ago after a preseason game, I'm glad I don't have
Speaker 1: to play against Brandon Cooks twice a year. Glad he's
Speaker 1: not in our division. I just keep hand in the
Speaker 1: acid in New York is a little bit. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: he I think part of it was he was, But
Speaker 1: part of it was at the end of last year
Speaker 1: he wanted to be a bigger part of the attack,
Speaker 1: and he would, you know, but in New England you
Speaker 1: may not get that role. Right What what changes now?
Speaker 1: He he spoke out about being unhappy when he got
Speaker 1: shut out one in a game and they have so
Speaker 1: many guys to pass to. Uh, you know, they put
Speaker 1: up a ton of points of the Fountain to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. We saw it and that was without Gronk,
Speaker 1: you're gonna add him, and you have Duyne Allen, and
Speaker 1: you have all these other guys as one of these
Speaker 1: receivers gonna be gone now by the time the season starts,
Speaker 1: dani Amndola, I think we'll get cut. But Hogan, Edelman,
Speaker 1: Malcolm Mitchell, I mean maybe stunned if any of those
Speaker 1: guys are gone. So that's four wide receivers plus Gronk,
Speaker 1: It's gonna get spread around. Maybe that's the risk is
Speaker 1: just so many talented guys who are you know, obviously
Speaker 1: want the ball. They're petitive, can they So far everyone
Speaker 1: that's on the roster right now you would think is
Speaker 1: going to be with the program, But you never know.
Speaker 1: So we'll see how all that works out. Then, and
Speaker 1: the Patriots keep moving, they keep doing things. They wiel
Speaker 1: and they de They make another trade. Uh. They acquire
Speaker 1: defensive end Cony really from the Panthers, really just twenty
Speaker 1: five years old, was a little up and down last year,
Speaker 1: but had a huge Super Bowl against the Broncos, you
Speaker 1: may remember. So he's a guy that has plenty of potential.
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. Uh, and they didn't Uh, they give up
Speaker 1: a second round pick to get him. Your thoughts on
Speaker 1: this deal, Yeah, I mean I think it's didn't cost
Speaker 1: them much. You know, when you talk about giving up
Speaker 1: a first round pick for Cooks, it's number thirty two.
Speaker 1: It's essentially a second round pick. I wonder if all
Speaker 1: these trades, though, are lining up. They don't have a
Speaker 1: pick now. I think until the number seventy six they're
Speaker 1: lining up if they want to out top of this
Speaker 1: free agency plundering, to go out and you move Jimmy Garoppolo,
Speaker 1: you have reshaped the entire draft for yourselves and you
Speaker 1: completely own the off season. I mean, it's just like
Speaker 1: all these little moves open the door to a big
Speaker 1: move before the draft comes, and that would be a
Speaker 1: big movie. Would think would tie into the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: It it feels like the final shoot to drop in
Speaker 1: all is just a matter does the deal get done.
Speaker 1: I think it would be ironic if the flake Gate
Speaker 1: causes the Patriots to actually get more picks for Jimmy
Speaker 1: Garoppolo than they were forced to surrender for their offense
Speaker 1: in in that situation. But his six quarters of football
Speaker 1: or what everybody's gonna grade him off of when Tom
Speaker 1: Brady was suspended and they're among those six best quarters
Speaker 1: you'll see by any kind of guy who has been
Speaker 1: a backup or a filling starter. And the Patriots. This
Speaker 1: is a continuation. I think we saw it with the
Speaker 1: Browns using cap space to make trades. I think if
Speaker 1: you really look at the Sam Bradford trade that Philadelphia
Speaker 1: was able to do the way they had frontloaded Bradford's contract,
Speaker 1: that was a way of kind of using cap space
Speaker 1: to make trades. And the Patriots are trading like crazy.
Speaker 1: They made more trades than any team in the NFL
Speaker 1: last year, and I think they're looking at this as
Speaker 1: a real sort of new new market, like this is
Speaker 1: a different way we can really get value. And now
Speaker 1: they've got three trades in the last week. That's some
Speaker 1: of the way that they used all their cap room.
Speaker 1: They don't have to worry about, you know, Brandon Cook's
Speaker 1: next contract. They they think they can get it done
Speaker 1: and uh, all the this moving and shaking. One person
Speaker 1: that has not got paid, well, he got Donta Hietower
Speaker 1: who's still on the outside looking and he's continued to visit.
Speaker 1: But there is some speculation or belief. I guess some
Speaker 1: of these teams that he's visiting that he's gonna end
Speaker 1: up back in New England. Another player not paid yet
Speaker 1: is Malcolm Butler, who's under contract UM but now he
Speaker 1: watches stuff on Gilmour get a massive deal UM last
Speaker 1: week and here's a statement that came out from Butler's agent.
Speaker 1: The Patriots haven't approached Malcolm about his contracts since last year,
Speaker 1: and anything that says he keeps asking for the moon
Speaker 1: is completely false. Greg, Why you gotta do Malcolm like this?
Speaker 1: This is a Super Bowl hero, very disgraceful, very disgraceful.
Speaker 1: You're pulling, you're pulling out straws now. This is the
Speaker 1: best you can do, it would be. I liked what
Speaker 1: I heard from him though, that he will play, not
Speaker 1: even skip any offseason work at all under his restricted tender,
Speaker 1: which makes me think the Patriots would just be better
Speaker 1: off keeping him than trading him. I mean, just take
Speaker 1: this season, see what happens, Let's see what Gilmore looks like,
Speaker 1: Let's see if what the cap looks like next year
Speaker 1: or whatever. Just keep keep Malcolm Butler. Quit the trading.
Speaker 1: What a defensive backfield did have? I mean, I I
Speaker 1: think that's that go back to go back to what
Speaker 1: Belichick grew up I was as a coach. It was
Speaker 1: excellent defense and strong secondary play. I mean, you'd have
Speaker 1: this is sort of like the year they had vas.
Speaker 1: You'd you'd be you'd have strength upon strength. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's there's differing reports out there, but there was some
Speaker 1: reporting that Butler was originally in that trade essentially, and
Speaker 1: he maybe didn't want to sign the tender to make
Speaker 1: to allow it to happen. M that he would be
Speaker 1: going to New Orleans. If not, if everyone says he's
Speaker 1: one of the best young quarterbacks in the league, he's
Speaker 1: already a Patriots legend. Why is he getting floated around
Speaker 1: like this? Why didn't they take care of him instead
Speaker 1: of going out and getting Gilmore. They've got a number
Speaker 1: for him that they think is appropriate. It's clearly less
Speaker 1: than Stefan Gilmore. Uh, the reports are you know, way on.
Speaker 1: You know, during the season it was under ten million dollars.
Speaker 1: I don't know. They think Gilmore is a better player.
Speaker 1: They don't love Butler as much as everybody thinks they
Speaker 1: love Butler. What if behind the scenes the negotiations have
Speaker 1: been less pleasant than we even I always believe an
Speaker 1: agent at face value he said, they are not asking
Speaker 1: for them. Contrary to popular belief, good strategy by you
Speaker 1: moving on. A former New England Patriot has found a
Speaker 1: new home. Martellis Bennett uh is the new starting tight
Speaker 1: end of the pack The Packers announced Friday if they
Speaker 1: signed Bennett, just who obviously just won a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: with the Pats. The deals were three years, uh and
Speaker 1: twenty one million, and Bettt immediately went nuts on social media.
Speaker 1: Has been tweeting constantly since the signing, even tweeting out, hey,
Speaker 1: pick my number for me, let's go fly together. Uh
Speaker 1: So everybody's everybody's happy about having Marty b and Mark
Speaker 1: Sessler this Marty b gets it. Martel's bet he gets
Speaker 1: it because uh he's a guy that he's gonna get
Speaker 1: paid either way. Maybe you can get a couple of
Speaker 1: million more elsewhere, but the Packers give him the best opportunity,
Speaker 1: goes to Tom Brady, to Aaron Rodgers and guess what,
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna make him more money in the long run.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we were doing a little winners and losers
Speaker 1: from free agency and down the road on this show.
Speaker 1: I mean, how does he not boil out as an
Speaker 1: absolute winner? I mean the guy is a perfect fit
Speaker 1: for the Packers. We saw with Jared Cook down the stretch.
Speaker 1: What what it means when you give Aaron Rodgers a
Speaker 1: capable pass catching tight end. This is an upgrade over Cook,
Speaker 1: and it's it's a great fit for that offense. It
Speaker 1: was funny in our office when they tweeted out that
Speaker 1: essentially the talks had broken down with Jared Cook. All
Speaker 1: these Packers fans on Twitter and in our office like
Speaker 1: all upset about We're not going to get our tight
Speaker 1: end and with someone that Aaron Rodgers wanted to and
Speaker 1: so it seemed like this is a bad move. And
Speaker 1: then ten minutes later they turned around and get Ben
Speaker 1: and it's like that's the life is a Packers fan.
Speaker 1: For about ten minutes, you're going through a tough time,
Speaker 1: then suddenly things get all the better. He's a better
Speaker 1: player than Jared Cook. Yes, I think if you watch
Speaker 1: go back and watch him in September before he had
Speaker 1: the ankle injury that he played most of the season with,
Speaker 1: he was a much more explosive player in September than
Speaker 1: he was the rest of the year. And you know,
Speaker 1: we we thought that did Martellis Bennett Well, I think
Speaker 1: he was on our quarter season All Pro team. Last year.
Speaker 1: He was the best tight end in the NFL in September.
Speaker 1: What a terrible job by Jared Cook and his agent
Speaker 1: because apparently he it was the same amount of money
Speaker 1: that Bennett took a deal. And I think this was
Speaker 1: a great deal. I don't think Martellis Bennett got paid
Speaker 1: nearly the same, uh, nearly the number that he thought
Speaker 1: he was gonna get. I mean, and this is just speculating.
Speaker 1: I tend to think he would have resigned with the
Speaker 1: Patriots if he knew how little um he was gonna get.
Speaker 1: But he wanted nine to ten. They weren't willing to
Speaker 1: do it. They traded for Dayne Allen. And now he
Speaker 1: gets this is this is an amazing bargain to have,
Speaker 1: like a great option like that. I mean, Cook was
Speaker 1: gonna be one of my losers. And when we get
Speaker 1: to winners and losers, but I mean as well share now,
Speaker 1: like we were just talking about this, and he he
Speaker 1: had might double. It might work against him in double
Speaker 1: here because he might not even get more money now,
Speaker 1: uh than even Marty Bennett. And well, I mean I'd
Speaker 1: be stunned if he did. And it's it's all about
Speaker 1: these guys sometimes don't realize stick with the with the
Speaker 1: positive situation with a great quarterback, it will work out
Speaker 1: for you in the long run. And because of some
Speaker 1: hard bargaining, he's completely potentially out in the culture making
Speaker 1: less money with almost certainly a lesser quarterback. Yikes. One
Speaker 1: little note on the Patriots. They Marty Bennett's gonna get
Speaker 1: about seven million a year. Cook's, Dwayne Allen, and Coney
Speaker 1: Eliot are going to combine to make seven and a
Speaker 1: half million this year. M hmm. They got three players
Speaker 1: instead of one. That's why they have more cap space
Speaker 1: coming into this offseason than almost anyone else. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Let's move on Terrell prior he will have a new
Speaker 1: home in the Former Browns wide receiver has signed a
Speaker 1: one year deal with the Washington Redskins at eight million
Speaker 1: dollars uh six ft four coming off of one thousand
Speaker 1: yards season and seventy seven receptions in his first U
Speaker 1: real wide receiver year with a terrible Brown's offense, and
Speaker 1: he still managed to put up those numbers. But he
Speaker 1: gets to prove it contract out of it. Greag I
Speaker 1: gotta ask the question here and now we got with
Speaker 1: the all the negative comments he got during the season.
Speaker 1: The Browns, a team with a ton of cap space rebuilding,
Speaker 1: have a young ascendant wide out, they don't keep him
Speaker 1: in the building. He gets a one year, proven deal.
Speaker 1: What is the stink on Terrell Prior? That's how I
Speaker 1: read this that once again we're having more evidence that
Speaker 1: there's something about this guy that people don't like. They
Speaker 1: you just said it. They don't like him. The league
Speaker 1: doesn't like him, and he liked He is very similar
Speaker 1: to Cook. He had a much better contract on the
Speaker 1: table from the Bear from the Browns, a multi year
Speaker 1: offer reportedly around eight million dollars a year with guarantees
Speaker 1: into the second year, pretty much the contract that Kenny
Speaker 1: Britt signed with the Browns. Terrell Prior could have had.
Speaker 1: He didn't do it, and he ended up getting six
Speaker 1: It says eight million, but it's a really a six
Speaker 1: million dollar deal. I mean, that's a eight that's a
Speaker 1: great low risk, I think, high reward signing by Washington.
Speaker 1: But it's it's amazing he couldn't do better. I mean,
Speaker 1: in an off season of ridiculous negatives for the for
Speaker 1: the Redskins, this is a player who is going to
Speaker 1: be interesting in this offense. And and maybe it's just
Speaker 1: one season, we'll find out, but I I kind of
Speaker 1: think that we would have seen some sort of a
Speaker 1: tail off from Prior in Cleveland because he said it himself.
Speaker 1: They said, you know today, you mean with reporters, are
Speaker 1: you Are you sure you don't know how much drama
Speaker 1: is happening here in Washington said I just played with
Speaker 1: six quarterbacks in one season. He's like, I, this is
Speaker 1: different for me as a player. Well, Mark, I have
Speaker 1: to ask you, because one of your great fears as
Speaker 1: a football fan is the team the player leaving your
Speaker 1: team and then having big years after he leaves. Prior
Speaker 1: is like the prototypical case for this. Are you unhappy
Speaker 1: that they decided to get out of business with the
Speaker 1: only thing that I like about it? By all accounts,
Speaker 1: the Browns didn't just screw this up necessarily like Prior.
Speaker 1: I thought he could go get much more. And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of players find out that's not the case.
Speaker 1: And I don't like the dynamic of bad team kind
Speaker 1: of developing player player goes somewhere else. You have to
Speaker 1: stop that. But you also have to know this is
Speaker 1: our market value for this player. We're not being the
Speaker 1: guy doesn't want to deal do business with us. We'll
Speaker 1: find someone else. I'm not I'm not in love with
Speaker 1: the Kenny Britt signing. It sounds like he went back
Speaker 1: to the Browns at the end too, and was like
Speaker 1: you sure you don't want to get in on this.
Speaker 1: I think that there was that report. I wonder how
Speaker 1: much is that is just trying to save face and
Speaker 1: going back and forth, because I think the Browns set
Speaker 1: their value when he walked away. They signed someone else.
Speaker 1: They weren't left with nothing. You have to like any
Speaker 1: Britt more than a guy close to the the thirties, had
Speaker 1: knee issues. He's had the field issues prior it. It
Speaker 1: goes back to the stink thing, like how does Kenny
Speaker 1: Britt get paid by the Browns? A guy that's had
Speaker 1: all sorts of issues in his past and prior. You know,
Speaker 1: he is not even close to the Kenny Britten when
Speaker 1: you look off the field and those type of situations.
Speaker 1: It just something. It has nothing to do with like
Speaker 1: me ripping the Browns. I'm curious what the deal that
Speaker 1: was the signing of all Cleveland. As you talk about
Speaker 1: their strategy is and what they want to do signing
Speaker 1: an aging Kenny Britt did not fitted that that might
Speaker 1: have been we have to get someone. But you also
Speaker 1: drafted a bunch of wide receivers that clearly you don't like,
Speaker 1: and that says that you can you can, you can
Speaker 1: make these trades. You have to draft players that are
Speaker 1: that are gonna win for you, that are going to
Speaker 1: be developed. Because if you're if you're already looking for
Speaker 1: veteran wide receivers to sign over all these guys you drafted,
Speaker 1: it's not a great sign. Let's talk some brock Osweiler
Speaker 1: because he is a current member of the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 1: Who knows for how long, but after one year into
Speaker 1: signing a multi year uh deal with a ton of
Speaker 1: guaranteed money with the Texans, the Texans wanted them out
Speaker 1: of the building so badly that they're willing to eat
Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars in a trade that we all uh
Speaker 1: know about, which happened last week that netted the Browns
Speaker 1: a second round pick. And there had been some percolations
Speaker 1: I'll call them greg but what something that may have
Speaker 1: happened behind the scenes in Houston that led to the
Speaker 1: Texans Washington has beyond the act that Osweiler stunk last
Speaker 1: year something else and in p f T Pro Football
Speaker 1: Talk reported this weekend UH that, per source with knowledge
Speaker 1: of the situation, UH, the game in week seventeen when
Speaker 1: Tom Savage was named the starter or was starting in
Speaker 1: that game, went out with a head injury. UH. Osweiler
Speaker 1: went into the game, and then at halftime there was
Speaker 1: a discussion where Savage was told he's out of the
Speaker 1: game per the concussion protocol, and when Osweiler learned he
Speaker 1: was staying in him and Bill O'Brien got into it
Speaker 1: because something along the lines of oh, you didn't want me,
Speaker 1: and now you have to play me, and that led
Speaker 1: to almost a physical altercation of some kind. And the
Speaker 1: decision at that point was it was history less, tell
Speaker 1: me about it self. Entitlement of this guy is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Your number two on the depth chart. That's what it means.
Speaker 1: When the first guy gets hurt, you go in. That's
Speaker 1: how football's played, Brock. And for you to hold this
Speaker 1: offense hostage for six teen weeks and then like pull
Speaker 1: a diva move of that nature, well, he he literally
Speaker 1: used the words that he was being held hostage. That
Speaker 1: was those were some of the words, you know, according
Speaker 1: to you know the source here Brian was holding him hostage. Basically,
Speaker 1: you're only using me because you need me, you know that,
Speaker 1: Like that's how it works. It's a football works well. Also,
Speaker 1: the other thing is it should surprise no one that
Speaker 1: there is uh soap opera antics in Bill O'Brien's quarterback room.
Speaker 1: He's he hasn't been able to run that thing in
Speaker 1: two years. At least. Brock is working on it. His
Speaker 1: name and everything about him, including how he's like just
Speaker 1: a little too polished at everything in front of the camera.
Speaker 1: He is like the evil character from a football movie,
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback who gets benched. Sounds basically brock solution
Speaker 1: for the Browns at quarterback. Where is the yeah, because
Speaker 1: I worry about he'll end up landing with the Jets,
Speaker 1: either via trade or some type of signing, or the
Speaker 1: Browns who don't want the Browns the secretly be talking
Speaker 1: themselves into a year of Brock. You don't want him
Speaker 1: on your team now. But here's a weird angle. The Broncos,
Speaker 1: who are willing to give him a lot of money
Speaker 1: last year, they could sign him with like the league minimum.
Speaker 1: If elways still that thinks he has skill set, does
Speaker 1: that make any sense? I don't you think there's too
Speaker 1: much water under that break? Probably? Probably? I mean it
Speaker 1: was not a graceful exit. By that's a good point
Speaker 1: that he he did talk, he spoke out in the
Speaker 1: media about it identity. I don't know if any team
Speaker 1: would refuse to go to the White House. By the way,
Speaker 1: does anyone even see him as a starter at this
Speaker 1: point outside of the most desperate team that No, we're
Speaker 1: just thinking about backup spots. I was thinking Rick Dennison
Speaker 1: is in Buffalo, that was his coordinator in Denver, had
Speaker 1: success under him. That would make sense as a backup job.
Speaker 1: I don't think this report is going to help him now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I mean, I'm all in for the Jets kind
Speaker 1: of tanking in a classy way this year. But I
Speaker 1: just don't want to even I don't want to see
Speaker 1: brock osw arder jet Uni. Well, you'll get r G three,
Speaker 1: then print that on T shirt. Taking Keen in a
Speaker 1: classy way. Yeah, I'll take Josh McCown in RG three.
Speaker 1: That's how you work, like haste class bad RG three season.
Speaker 1: You just experienced one. I mean, I don't think that's
Speaker 1: better on the outside than it feels on the inside. Kaepernick,
Speaker 1: Brock in RG three, it's like those did. None of
Speaker 1: them are guaranteed to be in the NFL this year.
Speaker 1: I think Kaepernick is getting Barry Bonds In two thousand seven,
Speaker 1: Barry Bonds hit almost thirty home runs and led the
Speaker 1: majors on base percentage and never played a game again. Uh,
Speaker 1: and he was like the face of the steroids era.
Speaker 1: I think Kaepernick a totally different situation, but I don't
Speaker 1: think he's going to get a job. Kaepernick doing that
Speaker 1: minus the on field production, right, Wow, except you didn't
Speaker 1: really do anything like that. Most sane people would really
Speaker 1: have that big of a problem with Yeah, but we're
Speaker 1: talking without you know, I think football related. I think
Speaker 1: that you know, if you've watched Kaepernick over the years,
Speaker 1: you don't do you want him as a quarterback? And
Speaker 1: absolutely he had he had some stretches last year War.
Speaker 1: I'd want him as a somebody to compete if I'm
Speaker 1: the Jets with nobody, sure, if you're the Jets, I
Speaker 1: think the Jets are Also there's a couple of teams
Speaker 1: in a weird situation where they're they're the collectors for
Speaker 1: these crappy quarterbacks. I think you'll get a job of
Speaker 1: those three. I feel most confident. I feel like r
Speaker 1: G three could be quitting football to you know, take
Speaker 1: over his consuming life, passion, sloganeering. Maybe he can be
Speaker 1: a uh yeah, I'll leave it at this mark. I
Speaker 1: don't think that the team owned by Woody Johnson is
Speaker 1: going to sign Colin Kaepernick's that's true. Um, let's move on.
Speaker 1: T J. Lange has signed a three year deal with
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions, as comes um after the Brown's got
Speaker 1: center to j C. Treader and now Lang gets paid. Uh.
Speaker 1: Lang has been a starting guard for the Packers since
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven. Uh. He's twenty nine years old, the
Speaker 1: former fourth round pick. Uh, and now he joins the
Speaker 1: law Lion's west. Um, you know every offense is good
Speaker 1: to be an offensive lineman right now? T J. Lange
Speaker 1: got nineteen million? Is this the deal that will work out?
Speaker 1: I'm sort of interested to see how the two thousand
Speaker 1: seventeen Lion season plays out because their GM is getting
Speaker 1: so much praise for these moves. Are we sure that
Speaker 1: Ricky Wagner and T j Lange are going to be
Speaker 1: better than Riley Rife and Larry Warford. I'm not right.
Speaker 1: I it's kind of been a trend that teams with
Speaker 1: oligned problems have just been shuffling them around like one
Speaker 1: guy's one team's problem is another team solution. Lang wasn't
Speaker 1: a problem. I mean Lane langs mostly getting off several surgeries.
Speaker 1: Lang is a really good player who's leaving that system
Speaker 1: and coming off hip surgery. And they and they have
Speaker 1: a good history of knowing when to say goodbye to
Speaker 1: their players. But you wouldn't think there's some huge difference
Speaker 1: between the lineman leaving Detroit and the lineman arriving. Maybe
Speaker 1: you know a little better. Get excited about the Lions,
Speaker 1: are you? It's March? I think you have some time
Speaker 1: to build up that excitement. Get my DJ Hayden jersey,
Speaker 1: get your hated jersey official one. You're gonna get the
Speaker 1: ten dollar one. You're gonna get the one. Smart mona
Speaker 1: be there all in, very very fiscally responsible. Uh. Moving on.
Speaker 1: Jabal Jabal shar It has a new job. NFL Network
Speaker 1: Inside Ian Report reported Friday the former Patriots in Brown's
Speaker 1: pass Russia has agreed to a three year, twenty five
Speaker 1: and a half million dollar deal with almost thirteen million
Speaker 1: guaranteed with the Indianapolis Cults. The Cults later confirmed that
Speaker 1: signing Mark Sessler. Your thoughts on Jabal sher to former
Speaker 1: brown now in the a f C South, Well, I
Speaker 1: know he struggled during part of last year with the Patriots,
Speaker 1: was essentially benched, uh came back to contribute some on
Speaker 1: One takeaway with him is that I m from watching
Speaker 1: him for years with the Browns, very tough player, played
Speaker 1: through essentially a something of a fractured foot for for
Speaker 1: game after game for a team that had no real
Speaker 1: reason to make him do that at that point in
Speaker 1: the year, and played under four or five different defensive coordinators,
Speaker 1: whether it was four three or three four. Jabal Shar
Speaker 1: had always found a way to produce and he was
Speaker 1: I thought it kind of a violent impact player for them.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know, coming out of the
Speaker 1: New England thing, if you're getting the same guy but
Speaker 1: always worked hard. I think it's a good signing for
Speaker 1: the Cults who are rebuilt. They're doing things that their
Speaker 1: former GM couldn't get done in three or four years.
Speaker 1: You're adding the kind of players to make your defensive
Speaker 1: lines better. There were offensive line There were multiple games
Speaker 1: last year where the guy on the other side, John Simon,
Speaker 1: was the best player on the Texans defense. And I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he's a pro bowler, but the Colts needed
Speaker 1: younger legs at outside linebacker and they got two of
Speaker 1: them here. They're going They're going for Don Terry Po.
Speaker 1: We'll see if they get him. They've got Kevin Mentor
Speaker 1: at inside linebacker. Visiting their their new GM after years
Speaker 1: of the old G. I'm not being able to fix
Speaker 1: the defense. At least he's bringing in some quality players.
Speaker 1: I think, right he's not breaking the bank. I think
Speaker 1: he's going after Don Terry Po because post market really
Speaker 1: didn't develop, and he's you know, can you get him
Speaker 1: at a nice little discount value shopping? I like West.
Speaker 1: How about the idea you've yet to procreate as far
Speaker 1: as we know. If you like that idea, I do
Speaker 1: like that idea. But if you have a son, horror daughter,
Speaker 1: Jabal Wesley, Uh probably not. Okay, Hey, listen, everybody else,
Speaker 1: any ideas sounds good. It sounds good. I would call
Speaker 1: him like the Return of the Mailman Wesley, like or
Speaker 1: Maleman too. About Stephan Gilmore naming his daughter Giselle, born
Speaker 1: on the same day he signed with Patriots. Craig, this
Speaker 1: is big for you, Wuminati stuff going up. I mean,
Speaker 1: that wasn't the reason he did it. Apparently it was.
Speaker 1: That's just quinn. It is one of those names though,
Speaker 1: that it's you gotta be away. I don't know if
Speaker 1: they had that conversation, you know, him and his wife, Um,
Speaker 1: you gotta have the well, you know, our kids get
Speaker 1: you know, there's a famous gazelle. There's some names that
Speaker 1: are just kind of like the name is so famous
Speaker 1: that you gotta think twice. Is she going to be
Speaker 1: a super famous I mean maybe she'd probably that's probably
Speaker 1: like the first Lady of America by then. That's the
Speaker 1: kind of foresight that Gilmour's have. And I don't I
Speaker 1: like that, right, Couldn't you see that Tom Brady goes
Speaker 1: right from you know, as long as five years old,
Speaker 1: his son takes over his Patriots quarterback and then he
Speaker 1: assumes the White House. He'll still be under center in
Speaker 1: New England. You got, you know, at the scandal from
Speaker 1: the flake Gate. Any time a politician has a little
Speaker 1: scandal around him, it will never call right. The ship
Speaker 1: is completely Dan brings his gradual decline bit over to
Speaker 1: the politics, switches over. Deitely does not hold in politics.
Speaker 1: I can tell you that. Alright, eight o'clock to the lifetime. Actually,
Speaker 1: let's hear that. Let's do the Palm Spring song. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: let's have some fun. Let's that's years old. Eight o'clock
Speaker 1: the light Time. I love this Palm Spring song. Nick
Speaker 1: Foles back in Philadelphia, making eleven million dollars on his
Speaker 1: new two year deal, including seven million guarantees. Greg, what
Speaker 1: does that mean for Chase? Dan Sunny used to be
Speaker 1: shining for all Chase. It means he's gone and Philly
Speaker 1: is the place you want to go to. If you're
Speaker 1: at quarterback. You get paid weird career for by the
Speaker 1: very strange career for Nick Foles moving, I'll go back
Speaker 1: into college football after this. Just syth Daniel week one
Speaker 1: jet starter. Let's take it a little boring, but I'll
Speaker 1: take it. Let's go three and thirteen and we fly.
Speaker 1: Kendall Wright joining the Bears on the Chicago joining the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears on a one year deal worth four million dollars.
Speaker 1: According to rap Sheet, Wright was number fifty nine on
Speaker 1: Around the NFL's top one on one free agents list.
Speaker 1: Difference maker West No, I love the Bears offices and
Speaker 1: philosophy of over paying for everyone else's disappointments. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: at spect right tackle Doug Free to retire uh Free
Speaker 1: thirty three is played in and started one and seven
Speaker 1: of a possible hundred twelve games since two thousand tens.
Speaker 1: The tackles in the final year of restructure three year
Speaker 1: deal mark not easy playing tackle. That body must be
Speaker 1: burnt well, I mean possibly he's he's at the age
Speaker 1: where a lineman would think about leaving. He's now literally
Speaker 1: free to go do whatever he wishes. No, Oh my goodness,
Speaker 1: plan words there, that was terrible. Lorenzo Alexander coming back
Speaker 1: to the Bills on a two year deal. Raps here
Speaker 1: aboard Saturday of the pass Rusher coming back to Western
Speaker 1: New York two year deal, nine million dollars four point
Speaker 1: one million guaranteed. Oh my goodness, thirty three years old,
Speaker 1: and what does he do? Twelve and a half sacks
Speaker 1: last year? He'll definitely repeat that, right, Greg Hey for that, well,
Speaker 1: no one everyone agreed with you in the NFL. He
Speaker 1: didn't really get a great contract four million. It's good
Speaker 1: for him after a long career bouncing a rapt please
Speaker 1: Western New York. You can buy it like six houses
Speaker 1: for four million bucks. You're doing fine. And and uh
Speaker 1: rex Ryan's old pickup truck with the Bills decals. The
Speaker 1: Jets have signed a new left tackle, Kelvin Beach him
Speaker 1: formally of the Jacks, a three year, twenty four million
Speaker 1: dollar deal. The Jets, of course cut ties with Ryan
Speaker 1: Clady and Brino Geo Geocomi bio Comini Jacomini. Anyway, beat
Speaker 1: him signed with Jack's Jackson the last offseason, didn't do
Speaker 1: much and now he's with the Jets. Gonna be a
Speaker 1: rock on that on that leftouds to the town. He's
Speaker 1: a regular tyler Columbus. They guaranteed him twelve million, including
Speaker 1: money into this year. These tackle contracts are wild for
Speaker 1: players who struggled last year. Speaking of here's d J.
Speaker 1: Fluger on the grid, the Charges tackle heading east, joining
Speaker 1: the New York Giants in a one year deal. Started
Speaker 1: all sixteen games in sixteen, but he's let go by
Speaker 1: the Charges on Tuesday, Mark, I believe it's some off
Speaker 1: the field issues. Uh not, maybe an all time player,
Speaker 1: but a useful edition for the Giant. Again, at this
Speaker 1: position group, you just keep getting paid over and over again?
Speaker 1: Do you have nine lives? So is it? I don't.
Speaker 1: The Giants are not going to send their offense around
Speaker 1: this guy. But finally, Chris Lausson Robert Woods formerly the Bill,
Speaker 1: signed a five year, thirty nine million dollar contract with
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams, who last year handed out funny
Speaker 1: money to Tavon Austin and now it's Robert Woods turn.
Speaker 1: If you want to look at this, with the contracts included,
Speaker 1: it's unfathomable that Robert Woods and Tavon Austin are making
Speaker 1: as much money as they are to get in the
Speaker 1: end zone of combined five times five touchdowns between the
Speaker 1: two of them last year. I've got I've got a
Speaker 1: pace coming best and worst contracts. Spoiler, Robert Woods is
Speaker 1: on there. Hey, I won't tell you which side. Congratulations
Speaker 1: Robert Woods. A little bitter sweet Gregg thinks you're a joke,
Speaker 1: so does West, but you just got paid. He is
Speaker 1: a good number three receiver and he's a good blocker,
Speaker 1: but he doesn't make big plays. It's not a good sign.
Speaker 1: When and I said this on the fantasy podcast. Wow,
Speaker 1: I did. I went to a fantasy podcast, both of you.
Speaker 1: It's a bad sign. It's a bad sign when they
Speaker 1: send out the tweet of his signing from Adam Schefter
Speaker 1: and it said one of the best blocking wide receivers
Speaker 1: in football. Because he's just saying what the agent said.
Speaker 1: That's the best thing they could come up with for
Speaker 1: Robert Woods. Well, it's it's a bad sign when two
Speaker 1: people in the room have not been invited on the
Speaker 1: Fantasy show and it's t Marlin, thank you very much
Speaker 1: here with NFL dot COM's Greg Rosenthal dot com. NFL
Speaker 1: dot com dot com. That's still who you are, Greg,
Speaker 1: that's who you are. I got no problem with that.
Speaker 1: Before we get to winners and losers of the first
Speaker 1: week of free agency. Uh, any takeaways from our Palm
Speaker 1: Springs trip. I we have haven't been on men uh
Speaker 1: forsome trips. All four of us spent the night, none
Speaker 1: in Palm Springs together. It was a late night. It
Speaker 1: was a weird trip, non work related. I don't think
Speaker 1: we totally non work related. It was a weird trip
Speaker 1: in the sense that we got there. It was a
Speaker 1: three basically a three day um party to celebrate Gonzo's
Speaker 1: forty birthday and Don gonzalas Colleen Wolf's husband. Yes, I
Speaker 1: mean we've said that a hundred times on this podcast.
Speaker 1: I still bet the percentage of people hearing that on
Speaker 1: this very show is let figure it out. Let the
Speaker 1: let the newbies figure it out. You know. Sometimes you
Speaker 1: help out potential nubies. Sometimes they gotta you know, fly
Speaker 1: with the information as it comes. I've made a conscious
Speaker 1: decision to just detach and Gonzo the legend. All right,
Speaker 1: do you want to tell the new listeners who Colleen is? Yes,
Speaker 1: she's a part time I was great, great job on
Speaker 1: the NFL Now coverage all the time. Right, she does
Speaker 1: some t a work of course, on the edge of
Speaker 1: my seat here waiting for this penetrating analysis of the weekend. Anyway, So,
Speaker 1: and this is a forty birthday party, So you gotta
Speaker 1: understand the clientele. This isn't a party of twenty seven
Speaker 1: year old people. It's a party of people they're around
Speaker 1: forty Okay for the most part, not everybody, but probably
Speaker 1: the majority. So if you have a weekend party and
Speaker 1: it's going Friday, Saturday, Sunday, everyone gets to palm Springs,
Speaker 1: everybody flying in from Philadelphia, the home base of Connie,
Speaker 1: Fox And and Gonzo. All the old friends, all the
Speaker 1: high school friends, the college buddies, the old friends from
Speaker 1: the old newspaper, the old daily. Uh, you know everyone's
Speaker 1: former co workers. Is what I think you mean to say? Yeah? Whatever,
Speaker 1: and then uh, we are newer friends from the West Coast.
Speaker 1: Very very kind of Colleen to invite us. It was
Speaker 1: a surprise party, and I think Gonzo was very happy
Speaker 1: to see the four of us. Uh. But here's my point,
Speaker 1: they're gonna rage when they touched down in Palm Springs
Speaker 1: and they had a great old time West. I think
Speaker 1: you were there Friday. I was there, The Paramore and
Speaker 1: I were there Friday night. A lot of cornhole, beer pong. Yes,
Speaker 1: your your theory is correct. The revelry was going strong
Speaker 1: Friday night. Now, if if this was a thirtieth birthday
Speaker 1: surprise weekend, people are flying high on Saturday, probably, yes,
Speaker 1: no doubt. But per my theory, because you don't bounce
Speaker 1: back as quickly as you age, it was a little
Speaker 1: more quiet on Saturday. Uh. And and Mark and I
Speaker 1: and Greg was there when we when we arrived. But
Speaker 1: Mark and I landed with like like a major splash
Speaker 1: on the scene. We're looking to get like messed up
Speaker 1: and have fun and party. It's kind of a hurricane,
Speaker 1: and people weren't really prepared for the hurricane because it
Speaker 1: was more the come after the storm situation at the house,
Speaker 1: and it was like, don't play the music too loud,
Speaker 1: and you know, everybody kind of everybody, you know, pipe
Speaker 1: down a little bit, people trying to slip keep people
Speaker 1: fell asleep. Um, but we still had a great time.
Speaker 1: It was just a little bit. And then I wondered,
Speaker 1: west because you stayed Sunday, did it return to powerhouse
Speaker 1: levels on Sunday the way it wasn't Friday? Did we
Speaker 1: just completely miss uh? Really the sweet spot to be
Speaker 1: all together? Honest, there are some holes in my memory
Speaker 1: from yesterday. We did have fun, but I can't say
Speaker 1: with scientific fact whether it returned to Friday night. Well,
Speaker 1: the in in fairness to this group that was here before,
Speaker 1: twisted greggul No, no no, no, I'm not. I'm not twisting
Speaker 1: at all. I'm saying a big factor why it calmed
Speaker 1: down is because authorities came over from the middle of
Speaker 1: the afternoon Saturday afternoon revelry. I think even in a
Speaker 1: few hours that I got there before, before you guys,
Speaker 1: it was kind of going Saturday afternoon and then people,
Speaker 1: you know, people came up. We got a couple of knocks.
Speaker 1: They've got a couple of knocks on the door. And
Speaker 1: that's really when the chill say. Personally, I think he
Speaker 1: showed up like fireballs from the sky. And I don't care.
Speaker 1: There was some fake it was fake police. It wasn't
Speaker 1: the real. It was like fake police that showed up
Speaker 1: at the door. And I get all that, and I'm
Speaker 1: not the person organizing the party. I would have had
Speaker 1: a whole different mindset. But I came in none of
Speaker 1: these dynamics. Uh convinced me to slow my act down,
Speaker 1: and I had a fantastic time from I have very
Speaker 1: little memory of the entire thing. By both of you guys.
Speaker 1: I thought, thanks West, and we all had fun the
Speaker 1: time we spent together, and it was a great party.
Speaker 1: And Colleen did a great job with a great great
Speaker 1: wife work. That's how I tell please my wife when
Speaker 1: she's on point with things. So this is just great
Speaker 1: white work, wife work. And that was she didn't Actually
Speaker 1: it was months of and you know Gonza doesn't know this.
Speaker 1: He thought that they were flying up to Vancouver and
Speaker 1: then doing a road trip south back to l A,
Speaker 1: which you know also sounds a great idea. I would
Speaker 1: have maybe high have to go to well, I said,
Speaker 1: we have to go, you know, see someone's aunt and
Speaker 1: uncle where you're not so when you find out when
Speaker 1: it really is, she'd be super excited. But I would
Speaker 1: say this, like what months and months of planning she
Speaker 1: put in to this emails, all this stuff and a
Speaker 1: plus job explained to the honest that might not know
Speaker 1: what an email is. I stand behind my name checking
Speaker 1: Gonzo everything the hell's Gonzo? All right? So that was
Speaker 1: and then Mark and I drove back and did the
Speaker 1: live pariscope. But you could check out, especially at the
Speaker 1: top of the show. You're probably curious about some of
Speaker 1: the topics. It wasn't just football, was football life and
Speaker 1: we want to do more of those, right, Mark the
Speaker 1: group that we should do some of these. I like
Speaker 1: them a lot. I thought it was quite fun. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you know. In the in the twenty
Speaker 1: four hours after, I want to sound bite going viral
Speaker 1: two seconds pulled out of I mean, I said that
Speaker 1: completely ridiculous to Greg. That's see, that's exactly should have
Speaker 1: been going during during Mark's uh sublime performance at brunch, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Brench was fun. Mark had a lot of statement about
Speaker 1: domestic life. Complicably. I have commentaries about certain things, and
Speaker 1: I unleashed them. Dan desares credit too for dropping about
Speaker 1: twenty five burgers on the grill, doing a great job
Speaker 1: and feeding the people grilled, grilled for the for the
Speaker 1: people I did. I did my duty. I don't think
Speaker 1: that you were adequately uh celebrated for that. Well, I
Speaker 1: just didn't you know. In the I was pounding those burgers.
Speaker 1: They were delicious, good. I'm happy everybody enjoyed their burgers.
Speaker 1: Let's now move on good weekend fun weekend winners and
Speaker 1: losers the first week and West, I didn't even mention
Speaker 1: that I beat you in Cornwall. I was just being
Speaker 1: respectful of you. That's I mean. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: want to get into alibis or anything. So I've just
Speaker 1: I'll just pipe down winners and losers of the first
Speaker 1: week of free agency. So let's let's have fun. Let's
Speaker 1: let's kick the ball around. So it's an old podcast expression,
Speaker 1: just kick the ball around. A little bit and share
Speaker 1: some winners and losers, and and Greg, I know you're
Speaker 1: itching to get this thing going, so give me a winner.
Speaker 1: Let's let's start out. You could throw out a winner
Speaker 1: or loose whatever you want to do, folks, But Greg,
Speaker 1: why don't you just kick us off with the winner. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna fall for the Jaguars this year. Usually I'm
Speaker 1: not the one. Usually I'm not the one falling for
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Doesn't make it right that you're doing it
Speaker 1: this time. At this point, I think everyone's just so
Speaker 1: tired of liking what the Jaguars doing the off season.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like, you know, wolf, what is
Speaker 1: it girl that sheep that cries wolf? Out of the podcast.
Speaker 1: It's over. I'm retiring, it's over, I'm leaving the Company's
Speaker 1: not the sheep that cried wolf, the boy that cried wolf.
Speaker 1: Sheep can't speak, which is a major problem. Anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 1: So you almost like ignore their moves at this point
Speaker 1: because it's like, Okay, this is just what they do.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I love Clais Campbell. I think Boo
Speaker 1: y A and Jalen Ramsey next to each other. I
Speaker 1: think they have reached the tipping point where the coaching
Speaker 1: staff cannot screw this up. I'm not sure about the offense. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. It doesn't change my mind on boardles.
Speaker 1: This team hasn't won more than five games since two
Speaker 1: thousand and ten. They're a disaster, and I think this
Speaker 1: time they just have so much on the defensive side.
Speaker 1: I think it works and there are a great defense
Speaker 1: and there are a lot more fun to watch this year.
Speaker 1: What you're gonna just drop at three and thirteen, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're making a lot of sense, right. I haven't
Speaker 1: been on them these what's the flip side of this though?
Speaker 1: Who have that released in the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: Julius Thomas, Jared Addrick, Devon House, all these guys who
Speaker 1: were the they were the Ballyhood class of two thousand
Speaker 1: fifteen free agency for Jacksonville. And the thing that you
Speaker 1: glossed over not I don't think in in evil way,
Speaker 1: But you said I still don't like Blake Boards. Well,
Speaker 1: he's still the quarterback. He could foul up everything. You
Speaker 1: can't you can't. I hate that. I've said that a
Speaker 1: million times this offseason. But that's they're just they've made
Speaker 1: that decision. I like the other stuff they're doing. All right,
Speaker 1: who's going I'll give you a loser. A loser this
Speaker 1: year's draft eligible quarterbacks because instead of teams not having
Speaker 1: any sort of an answer in the first round for
Speaker 1: that position, and these guys being overvalued and overdrafted, not
Speaker 1: unlike maybe would have happened in two thousand and eleven
Speaker 1: other years where guys who should be third fourth rounders
Speaker 1: are going in the second and first. I think when
Speaker 1: you see the Bears go get Mike Glenn and you
Speaker 1: see the Niners basically tell you that Brian Hoyer is
Speaker 1: going to be their starter this year, and a team
Speaker 1: like the Browns could go get Jimmy g Still that
Speaker 1: the prospect for any of these guys making first round
Speaker 1: money or emerging as sort of the answer going into
Speaker 1: this season for teams has been diminished incredibly over the
Speaker 1: last few weeks that the It was already considered not
Speaker 1: a great class, but if you look up and down
Speaker 1: the list, it's hard to pinpoint teams that are going
Speaker 1: to take a first round quarterback. Maybe the Jets, but
Speaker 1: it's six that feels very rich based on guys that
Speaker 1: were that what we know about these draftable guys. Cleveland
Speaker 1: at twelve maybe, but there's no indication that they're in
Speaker 1: love with any of these guys in the draft. And
Speaker 1: you have to look down at teams like maybe Arizona
Speaker 1: takes a chance later in round one tops. I just
Speaker 1: I don't. I think it's a bad year for quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and teams this time around, first draft, first round wise
Speaker 1: aren't falling for it. It could be similar in most cases,
Speaker 1: it ends up we hear this people talk like this
Speaker 1: in January, February, March, and then by the time you
Speaker 1: get to April or May, two or three guys go
Speaker 1: in the first round anyway or more. But it could
Speaker 1: be like the what was that the two thousand and
Speaker 1: thirteen draft where e J Manuel went in the first round,
Speaker 1: Gino Smith came off the board early in the second round,
Speaker 1: And it could be that type of draft. But I
Speaker 1: I can't speak to like the quarterbacks that are coming
Speaker 1: into the league. But it makes sense because the teams
Speaker 1: that need the quarterbacks most seems to be taking a
Speaker 1: different approach right now. I think I nailed that one
Speaker 1: West winner losers. Oh, let's do two losers for the
Speaker 1: same reasons. I think the Cardinals found out that the
Speaker 1: answer to all or nothing is nothing. They looked a
Speaker 1: year and a half ago like they were about to
Speaker 1: go on multi year Super Bowl contending run, and now
Speaker 1: they look like a team that their window passed and
Speaker 1: by the Bengals very similarly, one of the from one
Speaker 1: of the strongest rosters in the league now to a
Speaker 1: blow average roster. I think in Cincinnati and the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: you lose Calais Campbell, Tony Jefferson, possibly Kevin mintor three
Speaker 1: of your starters. I that the Cardinals, I I see
Speaker 1: where you're going with the Bengals. I think losing Klais
Speaker 1: Campbell hurts. Otherwise, at this point last year, what are
Speaker 1: we saying about Tony Jefferson? What are we saying about DJ? Sweringer?
Speaker 1: To me, those are guys that they helped coach up
Speaker 1: and make look good in their system with that aren't
Speaker 1: necessarily the most talented guys in the world. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they were caught a little bit with cap problems, and
Speaker 1: then I want to see what else they do, because
Speaker 1: I like Steve Kim, it's early in their process. They
Speaker 1: do sometimes some very good value signings. DJ Swereinger is
Speaker 1: a good example of a guy that they picked for
Speaker 1: nothing basically and got to be a big time contributor.
Speaker 1: That's fine, but talents walking out the door, and it's not.
Speaker 1: There's nothing to replace him. They got caught last year
Speaker 1: trying to replace guys with d J Humphries and Robert
Speaker 1: kim DJ and they weren't ready. So to say that
Speaker 1: they have someone ready to come in and beat Tony
Speaker 1: Jefferson or Clais Campbell, I don't. I don't see that. Well,
Speaker 1: they're not in the roster yet. It's March. This is
Speaker 1: also a team that went from being reliant upon their
Speaker 1: offense to reliant upon their defense last year. And now
Speaker 1: what's the strength David Johnson and what else I think
Speaker 1: you're counting on. I agree they're kind of just hoping
Speaker 1: d J. Humphreys in their line works out, But I
Speaker 1: think you're counting on their offense becoming great again, or
Speaker 1: else you wouldn't be excited about Michael Floyd walked out
Speaker 1: the wind, walked out the door. Actually it was kim DJ.
Speaker 1: They walked out the window. That's true. Chicken D Chicken
Speaker 1: D chickim D J, Kim d J. Can you make
Speaker 1: any impact. Aye or two. You're right about Cincinnati, by
Speaker 1: the way, I was a proponent. Sometimes I fall into
Speaker 1: this trap as a sports fan when a team that
Speaker 1: I thought a lot of kind of gets banged for
Speaker 1: whatever reason, whether it's bad luck or a bad injury. Uh.
Speaker 1: And and then you say, oh, let's bring back that
Speaker 1: team next year, and well, and we'll everything will work out.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati had a really really good team in and they
Speaker 1: got banged by the Andy Dalton thumb injury and will
Speaker 1: never know if they could have broke that playoff streak,
Speaker 1: uh cold streak. And then last year a couple of
Speaker 1: things went wrong, and I said, Okay, I'd be willing
Speaker 1: to look past last year as a last year, bring
Speaker 1: back that team again and see if they can get
Speaker 1: things gone. But it seems like, and it feels the
Speaker 1: way West was explaining it, like they've lost parts now
Speaker 1: and the offensive line is not as good as Andy Dalton.
Speaker 1: Gonna ever get back to Dalton if he has a
Speaker 1: subpar offensive line. I mean, they're just some things that
Speaker 1: don't feel right. U was Cincinnati. I'd be worried if
Speaker 1: I was a Bengals fan that your window closed in
Speaker 1: a in a cruel way in. I got a winner
Speaker 1: and a loser, all right, groups, and we kind of
Speaker 1: touched down, uh touched on one of them first middling
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. What a time to be alive. And these
Speaker 1: two groups, uh connect with each other. Matt Khalil, Russell Okun,
Speaker 1: Calvin Beecham, Who am I missing? There's there's there's been
Speaker 1: so many signs like Watson got decent money, so much
Speaker 1: money guaranteed money going to guys that are clear. I
Speaker 1: don't think these teams even think they're the answer. They
Speaker 1: just think they're better than what they have and they're
Speaker 1: not gonna find something better than the draft. So what
Speaker 1: else do you do When you have a ton of money.
Speaker 1: You just throw it at guys that you probably understand.
Speaker 1: There's a good chance that doesn't work out. But these
Speaker 1: guys still get paid despite it. And then you have
Speaker 1: on the flip side the losers the running back. So
Speaker 1: if you're a bad offensive lineman and are kind of
Speaker 1: a middle of the road or underachieving offensive and you
Speaker 1: can still get paid a lot of money guys without jobs.
Speaker 1: After a week on Adrian Peterson, Eddie Lazy, Jamal Charles Latavius,
Speaker 1: Murray's not in that group in terms of resume, but
Speaker 1: the guys that probably could definitely help a team g
Speaker 1: Blunt except I think we're seeing the reflection of what
Speaker 1: these teams think about the upcoming draft, because it's not
Speaker 1: considered in any way a good draft for tackles, and
Speaker 1: so they're so hard to find. If you don't have,
Speaker 1: you already know if you have that guy on your
Speaker 1: roster or not. So these guys, they're reaching potentially financially
Speaker 1: for these available veteran tackles. The flip side, the running
Speaker 1: back class looks fascinating. So why do you go pay
Speaker 1: for some guy who's thirty two years old and overpay
Speaker 1: them when you could draft someone that's on your team
Speaker 1: for the next five years. There are like this could
Speaker 1: be all this stuff out. Running backs no longer a
Speaker 1: first round type of player, which is already where I
Speaker 1: think that stuff always changes, but there could be a
Speaker 1: number of first round draft picks running backwise. This time around.
Speaker 1: It feels it's not even like oh, age thirty fall
Speaker 1: off the cliff in the running back It's like if
Speaker 1: you're twenty seven or something, you can't even get work anymore.
Speaker 1: It feels like it's just a tough position to play
Speaker 1: and make money. And I think what you said about
Speaker 1: tackles in offensive alignment so true. And I think it's
Speaker 1: partly like panic. I think teams do a good job,
Speaker 1: and I think it's a reflection of their bad coaching.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Broncos said this. They're kind of putting
Speaker 1: it out there that they thought last year was kind
Speaker 1: of about bad offensive line coaching. So they think Donald
Speaker 1: Stevenson can be fine at tackle, and we'll see if
Speaker 1: that's right or not. But there's no other reason to
Speaker 1: panic and give Kelvin Beecham that much guaranteed money into
Speaker 1: year two. Okung and Khalil got twenty five million guaranteed.
Speaker 1: That's like two That's basically the best you can now
Speaker 1: do as an NFL player is get two years, maybe
Speaker 1: a summoned to a third fully guaranteed. And they all
Speaker 1: got it despite disastrous years. Like it's it's wild. It's
Speaker 1: at a position where you normally can coach guys up,
Speaker 1: where if you have a good system, you can find
Speaker 1: despirate guys and coach them up. Here's a winner about
Speaker 1: Russell Okung's agent, also known as Russell Okung. He was
Speaker 1: laughed at in the past four wanting to be his
Speaker 1: own guy, and like he looks very capable. In fact,
Speaker 1: it kind of makes you wonder if more players will
Speaker 1: try to do the same thing down the road. Counterpoint,
Speaker 1: he got lucky. He signed a bad contract last year,
Speaker 1: and then because he signed a bad contract, he got
Speaker 1: cut loose and fell into an amazing market for mid
Speaker 1: tier offensive lineman where it worked out for him the
Speaker 1: second time around. Well, he stuck to his guns at
Speaker 1: least if he if he had packed pedaled and hired
Speaker 1: an agent or a whole team of people and then
Speaker 1: he got the money, you know, so will never try
Speaker 1: that again. It's a reminder, though, I think that luck
Speaker 1: is probably the number one factor in like if you
Speaker 1: get your money or not, like if things are Yeah,
Speaker 1: it depends on the year, it depends on the draft,
Speaker 1: it depends like what the cap spaces out there. It's
Speaker 1: like if Alshon Jeffrey, I think got unlucky. You know,
Speaker 1: I think if he had gone into different situations, he
Speaker 1: could have done better than nine point five million dollars.
Speaker 1: And that's what that's just what happened to him. He
Speaker 1: timed it well, way to go, Oh, come West, give
Speaker 1: me another winner the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I love to
Speaker 1: fit with the Sean Jackson his strengths versus what the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers needed. They didn't need a now Sean Jeffrey. They
Speaker 1: already have a big body, wide receiver who can jump
Speaker 1: ball jump ball specialists. They needed a deep threat to
Speaker 1: Sean Jackson will make Jamis Winston a better deep ball thrower.
Speaker 1: And Chris Baker on the other side of the defensive line.
Speaker 1: One of the most underrated free agents out there. I
Speaker 1: think it's time to bring back with the last named
Speaker 1: Baker the touchdown maker. Wrong position possibly, yeah, but maybe
Speaker 1: Chris Baker. Chris Baker the touchdown prevent er. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: like I mean the makers, Like, you know, he's a
Speaker 1: guy that like not only is he gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: take down the courterback, he's gonna strip the ball running
Speaker 1: in he makes touch That's true. It would be very relevant,
Speaker 1: probably at most one more time in his career. Chris Baker,
Speaker 1: the one time touchdown maker. Uh, go ahead. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, how about how about winners agents again? Just
Speaker 1: for getting John Lynch into the league. It's just like, hey,
Speaker 1: you guys want some money. Here's like the United States
Speaker 1: Bank of Lynch. Just let's overpay like different, Mark gets
Speaker 1: triple the salary. Let's go to the forty nine is
Speaker 1: to give us some cash. I would I want to say,
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard, we've mentioned them quickly, but think about what
Speaker 1: the cults were, you know in recent history, Ryan Grigson,
Speaker 1: not getting along with the head coach, Ryan Grigson, not
Speaker 1: identifying the team's biggest needs and why either hitting them
Speaker 1: on them in the draft or in free agency. Chris
Speaker 1: Ballard had an amazing opening press conference number one. I
Speaker 1: think he set the tone and they're already talking about players,
Speaker 1: saying that they're attracted to what he's had to offer,
Speaker 1: what he said he's about in the organization, and they've
Speaker 1: quickly started to address. They kept Jack Doyle. That was
Speaker 1: a good son. They could have lost that guy. You
Speaker 1: get cheered, you get John Simon. You're starting to address
Speaker 1: the issues that the cults have had for years under Griggson.
Speaker 1: Nice move, Mark, Greg You and I were both uh
Speaker 1: feed away from Ballard in his press Cotta what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts about him? I agree with Mark. I I
Speaker 1: wasn't impressed by him. He's an interesting I don't know
Speaker 1: there what's happened. There's there's there's a strange energy coming
Speaker 1: from Chris Ballards investigate. He's got a lot going on.
Speaker 1: I liked it. There was pressed, but it was there's
Speaker 1: just a lot going on. We need to dig in more. Well,
Speaker 1: you have thoughts. You have thoughts too, I think in
Speaker 1: terms of what we can say, um into a microphone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: suddenly you two are reading. There was an energy issue,
Speaker 1: whether good or bad or just you know, something in
Speaker 1: the air. Hair. Recognize his hair though, it's good hair, solid, hairy,
Speaker 1: it's no sneety no, But who is here's here's a loser? Uh,
Speaker 1: the New York Jets and the rest of the a
Speaker 1: f C East after what the Patriots have done, and
Speaker 1: the Jets especially because they went all out during this
Speaker 1: donta High Tower visit. Uh, put happy Birthday donta High
Speaker 1: Tower on all the screens inside the facility and made
Speaker 1: him cupcakes. I mean that they had a little tossed
Speaker 1: out on him. It's very desperate. Is of desperate team.
Speaker 1: Cupcakes aren't gonna cut it. How do you know? Maybe
Speaker 1: that's what charges everything that the cupcakes in here? Cupcakes
Speaker 1: I may really do that. Yeah, that's Uh. I was
Speaker 1: thinking of breaking news the show with that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: how many ex Patriots spending their birthday with the New
Speaker 1: York Jets. Very strange not ex Patriot yet. Well, you
Speaker 1: know he'll end up back there because the Patriots have
Speaker 1: manipulated the cap. I think Belichick loves this though. He
Speaker 1: can convince this team that we're not the super Bowl champions.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's always his goal, is convincing them we're
Speaker 1: not defending anything that's nonsense. Every year is a totally
Speaker 1: new thing, and he's gonna have a very new, different
Speaker 1: sort of team. It's gonna be an easy sell winner
Speaker 1: Patriots fans always and forever. Because I had under Losers.
Speaker 1: You you you stuck to the a f C. East.
Speaker 1: I put the rest of the NFL in our NFL
Speaker 1: network kid that we did today. The season's over. Everybody
Speaker 1: go home, Patriots. I listen. I've been saying it for
Speaker 1: a year, to cancel the Patriots hashtag say football. It
Speaker 1: has never been more dire And if there, if there
Speaker 1: was one year to be relegated from the NFL, as
Speaker 1: the Jets are this year, I am totally fine with
Speaker 1: not even like having flirtations. In my mind, about having
Speaker 1: a good season. Because the season's over. The Patriots gonna
Speaker 1: be back in the super Bowl next year, and there's
Speaker 1: almost absolute certainty they win another super Bowl. How exciting
Speaker 1: for the entirely absolute certain what you're doing. We see
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Quarterback just reached his prime. I think
Speaker 1: you could be right. Yeah, I mean Tom Brady will
Speaker 1: never get old. I mean, so that's the only chance
Speaker 1: in the NFL has And now that he's cheated father time,
Speaker 1: there's nothing left. But I like how you threw cheated him.
Speaker 1: Can't wait to get overly excited about some week five
Speaker 1: Bears win over the Lions. Uh, you know, I like,
Speaker 1: here's a winner, Carson Wentz. Uh. We talked all year about, oh,
Speaker 1: this guy's getting banged in a big spot. To these
Speaker 1: wide receivers. They they're terrible. I mean, they just they suck,
Speaker 1: these wide receivers, with the exception of Jordan Matthews. But
Speaker 1: then alshon Jeffrey Wes. I I know you don't view
Speaker 1: him as a prototypical number one, but I think he
Speaker 1: has that that that top level ability tory. And he's
Speaker 1: better than Nelson Aglor. He's certainly better than Nelson al
Speaker 1: Tori Smith. I think he is a prime candidate for
Speaker 1: a bounce back season. Uh if if Carson Wentz developed, so,
Speaker 1: then you've got Jordan Matthews back in the slot and
Speaker 1: they could they could do some damage all of a sudden.
Speaker 1: I really like that wide receiver corps and that changed
Speaker 1: very quickly. Free agency will do that for you. Winner
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, who could have been a Brown Mark, Well,
Speaker 1: we might have Jimmy Jean a month. If you're a
Speaker 1: Browns fans, so and I'll have nothing, I'm giving them
Speaker 1: taking that corner, Mark, I'm coming. I'd be happy for
Speaker 1: you to not made over the course of three or
Speaker 1: four months. The Browns have been suffering for twenty plus years.
Speaker 1: At this point, Jets have had a great time. Jets
Speaker 1: have been to two AFC title games since we worked here.
Speaker 1: What a long time ago? That was actually one all right,
Speaker 1: then one year before we worked here, Okay, go ahead,
Speaker 1: and another one. I was gonna give the Bears a loser.
Speaker 1: Any team that gives Marcus Wheat in the same contract
Speaker 1: as Brandon Marshall is a loser. Like, what a weird contract.
Speaker 1: They gave the den Sims a ton of money. The Bears,
Speaker 1: I think wanted to spend money and they got caught.
Speaker 1: They didn't get stuff on Gilmore like they expected. I
Speaker 1: think that Glennon I have no I like the Mike
Speaker 1: Glennon contract. I'm I like Mike Glennon, so I'm fine
Speaker 1: with that. But the rest of the announced, he's a starter.
Speaker 1: Just so everyone's clear, he is our starter Week one.
Speaker 1: The the rest of it, though, the Dion Sims and
Speaker 1: Marcus Wheaton, And one of one of the things I've
Speaker 1: learned the older I got is that it's a little
Speaker 1: bit you're a little bit disappointed to find out that
Speaker 1: sometimes corporations just earmark money to be spent and that's
Speaker 1: how people get paid. We got money to spend and
Speaker 1: somebody's getting it. Dion Sims, Marcus never us. It's never
Speaker 1: us what our corporations spending money on us. That there
Speaker 1: could be more of that. Um, I have a I
Speaker 1: had Malcolm Butler here, we kind of touched on that,
Speaker 1: but he he can't be happy right now after they
Speaker 1: they're now paying another quarterback on the roster like a quarterback,
Speaker 1: and I don't. I can't. I can't hit this any harder. Uh,
Speaker 1: But we've already talked about what it needs to be said,
Speaker 1: the ultimate loser. I think of this entire free agency process,
Speaker 1: even though he's not technically a free agent yet, is
Speaker 1: gonna be brock Oswiler. The fact that not only uh
Speaker 1: did he get sent away in a trade. Uh, and
Speaker 1: then now is on the Browns, which I was obviously
Speaker 1: we know is quarterback purgatory or hell, depending how you
Speaker 1: look at it. And he might not even stay there.
Speaker 1: And on top of it, West, as you alluded to
Speaker 1: the fact that this report now came out, that's like, oh,
Speaker 1: he might be a bad dude to have in your
Speaker 1: locker room too, that borderline. Maybe quit on his team
Speaker 1: last year. Uh. Nothing good came out of brock Oswaller's life.
Speaker 1: I opened his personal life. Things are going well, well,
Speaker 1: he's an an incredibly rich individual, but that's not all
Speaker 1: that life comes down to. Enhance the money untall. He's
Speaker 1: got some positive thing is working. But in terms of
Speaker 1: the first week Tall and Rich got most of the
Speaker 1: box has checked. Most of those are, like Bill O'Brien said,
Speaker 1: he checks every box. That's anybody got something else, like
Speaker 1: like the g ms and corporations. We don't have to
Speaker 1: force it. The rest of mine secret. I'm waiting this
Speaker 1: whole segment for Greg to start trashing the Redskins. Somebody
Speaker 1: trashing Well, we've done that every episode essentially. What I mean,
Speaker 1: I like to thrill prior move at least, But yeah,
Speaker 1: we've done that. They they've They're an embarrassment right now.
Speaker 1: They know that, all right. I don't think they know that.
Speaker 1: They probably they're not even fighting back at at at
Speaker 1: people calling them these sort of names right now. I
Speaker 1: think they're just trying to get past it. I've heard
Speaker 1: multiple locals in Washington, d C. Judge this last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks as the low point of the of the
Speaker 1: Engil Snyder Wow. And there's competition for that and I
Speaker 1: and on the football side, I mean, Terrell McClean and
Speaker 1: Stacy McGee getting huge money was curious too. It was
Speaker 1: kind of weird. I guess I was a little surprised
Speaker 1: that they stuck with Scott McLuhan's free agency board. I
Speaker 1: read that in several places that they stayed true to
Speaker 1: his board. That seems dirt. It's probably just that is
Speaker 1: input from not just Scott mcluen, but other people too.
Speaker 1: And then what do you reorganize in the course of
Speaker 1: three or four hours with with bullets flying, It's it's
Speaker 1: hard to do. I forgot I did have one more winner,
Speaker 1: but winner NFL Network producers, because the Tony Romo thing
Speaker 1: is just still hanging out there. We can hammer, ohway
Speaker 1: on all the Romo. It's just sitting there losing the world.
Speaker 1: There you go, winners and losers of the first week
Speaker 1: of free agency. That's it for today's show. We'll be
Speaker 1: back on Wednesday. Three shows this week, so tune in
Speaker 1: while the show on Wednesday and another show on Friday.
Speaker 1: Um and I'm I'm gonna tease it here and it
Speaker 1: maybe this week, it maybe next week, but pretty soon.
Speaker 1: Back on the Around the NFL podcast, one of the
Speaker 1: most popular fans segments ever done on the show makes
Speaker 1: its return the very near future. I know what it is,
Speaker 1: a little bit of a tease. What's keep it where
Speaker 1: it is? I won't say a word in the shadows.
Speaker 1: Do you know what it was? I have a feeling.
Speaker 1: Mark and I both believe it's the same thing. And
Speaker 1: we both know, Okay, great, we're gonna bring Greg Hardy back.
Speaker 1: Greg Hardy's sitting in In fact, the full time member,
Speaker 1: a new hero, Greg No, all right, that's it. So
Speaker 1: thanks to everybody for listening. This is Dan Hands signing
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Speaker 1: Listeners until Wednesday,