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Speaker 1: City of my not. Welcome back to another edition to
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis,
Speaker 1: and I am joined by a room filled with some heroes.
Speaker 1: Chris Westling to my left, Greg Rose withal to my ride,
Speaker 1: who's Itzy good. It's a troubling what's up poise? That's
Speaker 1: like season seven. We gotta mix it up, start just
Speaker 1: adding wacky voices by seasons. If we're still doing this
Speaker 1: for a seventh season, I believe we're about to enter
Speaker 1: our fifth, the fourth season together fifth, the two thousand
Speaker 1: seventeen season, which it will be let's not say about
Speaker 1: too we got six months or so, but yeah, that
Speaker 1: would be a fifth um. If we're still doing this
Speaker 1: entering a seventh season, that's when we UH introduce a
Speaker 1: young precocious child that's adorable, and there will be a
Speaker 1: video podcast and he'll be brought in uh to to
Speaker 1: reign in a new generation. You don't want to be
Speaker 1: listening to our podcast at that. Let me just keep
Speaker 1: it clear. Everything falls off after about five years or so,
Speaker 1: whether you're talking UH TV shows or you know, almost
Speaker 1: any form of entertainment. I don't think our podcast will
Speaker 1: be any different marriages marriages seven your podcast. H yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you know. So we are still in the
Speaker 1: golden age. So let's all enjoy it now before we
Speaker 1: have to introduce the seventeen year old boy named Tito
Speaker 1: Loans or Cult Sessler bringing Cult bringing Mark Sessler. By
Speaker 1: the way, we might have to because Mark came down
Speaker 1: with an illness this morning, not with us. Um will
Speaker 1: he be back? I don't know he'll be back. This
Speaker 1: is a big week. I would you know. I hope
Speaker 1: he feels I hope he's feeling better to be to
Speaker 1: the assuntant. For you to assume he'll be back almost
Speaker 1: makes it seem to me that you're saying that he's
Speaker 1: really not that sick. Where I'm taking just called Mark,
Speaker 1: I'm a linger if if if Mark called in sick
Speaker 1: with a mystery bug, I am not going to assume
Speaker 1: he'll be back anytime. So well, tomorrow is the first
Speaker 1: day of the league legal tampering period. It's one of
Speaker 1: our busiest days of the year. We're gonna need Mark
Speaker 1: Cesslor on that desk. Oh Man, I just want to
Speaker 1: hear you say that he doesn't like to be thought
Speaker 1: to be chained to a desk. No, he's He's a
Speaker 1: very important, valuable member of our team. We're gonna need him.
Speaker 1: Oh I mean is he he's not. I think even
Speaker 1: known Mark to be gone from the office too long.
Speaker 1: If if something brings him down, he's usually back back
Speaker 1: early the next day. That's all. Today's Around the NFL podcast,
Speaker 1: sponsoredive of course by Mr Flames Economics class in the Hague, Netherlands.
Speaker 1: Big show today, Big show. As as we just said,
Speaker 1: the legal tamper tampering period for free agency, which is
Speaker 1: so silly. What are we doing here? Why don't we
Speaker 1: just start free age and see tomorrow this legal temperary,
Speaker 1: what are we even doing? I have no answer for
Speaker 1: legal temperary. It should not be, but we repeat it.
Speaker 1: It's not that let's do something about this. Well, it's
Speaker 1: a writer driven term to make fun of the NFL, right,
Speaker 1: but it's totally accurate because the negotiations can begin. Free
Speaker 1: agency doesn't officially begin until Thursday at one pm Pacific,
Speaker 1: but you're allowed to negotiate in a window that begins
Speaker 1: tomorrow to sign free agents. But like in vague terms,
Speaker 1: supposedly you can't have a number of agreements or come on, guys,
Speaker 1: come back to us the winking period football cognizent. So anyway,
Speaker 1: with that coming up, we will uh as we do
Speaker 1: every year. Again, we're right in the right, in the
Speaker 1: good part, right in the right in the guts of
Speaker 1: that golden period. So if you know our podcast, you
Speaker 1: know we're gonna do some free agency sandwich props. So
Speaker 1: get ready and do with that uh miso phony umpire
Speaker 1: where we make predictions for free agency. Uh, we do
Speaker 1: it every year and that will come up a little later.
Speaker 1: Also led Zeerlen zero line, zero line, zero line of
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com and uh, you just saw him all
Speaker 1: over NFL network. Um with the Combine coverage. We had
Speaker 1: him on briefly at the end of Thursday show, but
Speaker 1: we're a little bit short on time and we didn't
Speaker 1: really get to talk to him at the length that
Speaker 1: we were happy with. Greg is not fair to say. Well, Plus,
Speaker 1: it was before all of the workouts at the NFL
Speaker 1: Scouting Combine took place. And since we're not exactly draft Nicks,
Speaker 1: he can jump in give us the the info to
Speaker 1: free agency week. Yeah, so we'll get Lance on the horn. Uh.
Speaker 1: To wrap up the combine week and uh, we'll hit
Speaker 1: some of the news that came out around the league
Speaker 1: since the last time we spoke to you on Thursday.
Speaker 1: So that's it. That's today's show. Not a bad show.
Speaker 1: I like the show. Let's do the show grade. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's bring the pre show, bring it back, bring it back. God,
Speaker 1: I love so many things about the show. Lance is fun.
Speaker 1: Always have a good time talking to Lance. He we
Speaker 1: go to me if if I were doing a it
Speaker 1: was like a last meal type thing, but last podcast
Speaker 1: it would absolutely have sandwich props when we're doing that.
Speaker 1: Can't beat that. And the news are some really juicy stuff. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way around. This is a solid
Speaker 1: B minus the show. It's the pre pre show grade.
Speaker 1: Let's do some news new money. Do you know the
Speaker 1: definition of evil? Because it comes in a flowing main
Speaker 1: That was him, that was move the sticks. Who it's
Speaker 1: entered fatal attraction territory. Um, how much he thinks about
Speaker 1: this podcast, it's all he thinks about and West there's
Speaker 1: some whispers, Oh it's a bit. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a bit. I think he opens up our ratings book
Speaker 1: and he cannot believe what he sees. He says, Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so successful. I'm an NFL network all the time.
Speaker 1: I get to wear a suit with sneakers. I'm cool,
Speaker 1: cool dad. How How are how is their podcast so
Speaker 1: much more successful? I think? And it drives him possibly
Speaker 1: insane in my mind. It's a bit on par with
Speaker 1: the Bob cost this bit that the three of you,
Speaker 1: including Mark, have been going for four years and I
Speaker 1: just don't understand it is surprised he moved the sticks
Speaker 1: and Dania Jerremite, who did an awesome job on the
Speaker 1: scouting combine the last playing both sides of the fence
Speaker 1: way and sixty six pounds. He hails from Martha's Vineyard.
Speaker 1: He is networks gross and tallow broken up. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: that gives me about thirty pounds too much, and uh
Speaker 1: not from Martha's Vineyard. You know, Dan has been propagating
Speaker 1: this myth forever. I had nothing to do in Western
Speaker 1: Massachusetts far this figured what was its supposed to be
Speaker 1: an NFL network drop? Okay, who was it? By the way,
Speaker 1: that one came from p d B. I like that,
Speaker 1: but we're starting to get away from the core conceit
Speaker 1: of what this is about. That I mean, that one
Speaker 1: was we're starting to float a little bit. Let's rein
Speaker 1: it in. Maybe we have to in house produce a
Speaker 1: couple of new ones said, just to get people back
Speaker 1: to what it what it really is about. All right,
Speaker 1: let's do some news and we start with the Washington Redskins.
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I think we touched on this
Speaker 1: a little bit, gentlemen, UH last week on the show
Speaker 1: that there there seems to be a lot of dysfunction
Speaker 1: in Washington right now, and we're trying to make sense
Speaker 1: what's going on with Scott mcgluwen, the general manager, uh,
Speaker 1: and all the all the drama around Kirk Cousins, who
Speaker 1: it seems like they haven't handled that negotiation well. Um,
Speaker 1: so we're trying to figure out what's happening in Washington.
Speaker 1: And then the Redskins what do they do? They announce
Speaker 1: at the combine that Jake Gruden has signed a two
Speaker 1: year extension with the team. Uh. They officially announced that
Speaker 1: signing on Monday. Gruden had two years left on the
Speaker 1: five year deal when he was hired in January two
Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen. According to rap Sheet, the extension was
Speaker 1: struck late Saturday at Prime forty seven Steakhouse, Greg, where
Speaker 1: we spent some time last week, Uh, which is an
Speaker 1: amazing It's amazing because I did we actually saw Gruden
Speaker 1: there on Wednesday night too, So this this came together quickly. Uh.
Speaker 1: And but Greg, does this feel like they're trying to
Speaker 1: send a smoke screen out so the rest of the
Speaker 1: public about what's really going on in Washington? It is wild.
Speaker 1: I think Gruden deserves it, so there's no problem with it.
Speaker 1: It's amazing that Jay Gruden is the first coach of
Speaker 1: the Snyder era in the last twenty years to put
Speaker 1: up back to back winning seasons. That includes Joe Gibbs
Speaker 1: by the way, who some people on our network said
Speaker 1: it was the greatest coach of all time. He couldn't
Speaker 1: do that, isn't. He also the first coach of the
Speaker 1: Snyder era to get an extension, right, which is which
Speaker 1: is outrageous. And so that's that's all fine. But the
Speaker 1: fact that it happened at a point where the Redskins
Speaker 1: are almost it's almost like politics a little you know,
Speaker 1: a little Washington. It's almost like they're trying to throw
Speaker 1: people off the scent of what's going on here. Mike
Speaker 1: Jones who's a good beat reporter for the Washington Post,
Speaker 1: was on the radio on Monday and he said mcglowen
Speaker 1: is watching the Combine at home, watching film at home,
Speaker 1: and like trying to do his work at home, and
Speaker 1: is essentially persona non grata right now, and he believes
Speaker 1: Mike Jones believes that he will no longer bead with
Speaker 1: the club after the NFL Draft. That's a quick turn
Speaker 1: from that being a great hire of a guy that
Speaker 1: needed a second chance all of a sudden, now you
Speaker 1: hear the rumors that he's having some troubles off the
Speaker 1: field again, and now he's gonna be out of the
Speaker 1: building entirely. Potentially over the past decade, Scott McLuhan is
Speaker 1: on the shortlist of people you would want in your
Speaker 1: draft room or at the combine in the months leading
Speaker 1: up to the draft, because nobody's rafted better than Scott mccluen.
Speaker 1: And Tony Corner has had a good line about this
Speaker 1: about his absence at the Combine. It's like the father
Speaker 1: of the bride not being at the wedding. That's how
Speaker 1: big Scott mcluhen is in the draft process. So what
Speaker 1: does that tell you? It tells you what, Greg said
Speaker 1: that they're likelyheaded for a divorce, and I think the
Speaker 1: but what's really going on behind the scenes for him
Speaker 1: to be not involved, we have this ace in the
Speaker 1: whole and not have at Indianapolis. Him and Bruce Allen,
Speaker 1: who you know as the guy who runs the team
Speaker 1: essentially is above mcgluwen on the on the depth chart.
Speaker 1: They've been at odds that people believe Alan. You know
Speaker 1: the Washington Post report he's overruled mcgluen on a few things.
Speaker 1: They don't see eyed eye. They haven't let mcgloullan talk
Speaker 1: to the press in since last spring, just to the
Speaker 1: long time, and it's just the Redskins of old. If
Speaker 1: you're a Redskins fan, you're thinking we had finally kind
Speaker 1: of get this thing turned around. And now Deshan Jackson's
Speaker 1: expected to leave, Pierre Garson's expected to leave. We don't
Speaker 1: know about the future of Cousins, and who knows. Well,
Speaker 1: that's the other thing going on with the timing of this.
Speaker 1: I was talking to Mark last week and I said,
Speaker 1: if you're Kirk Cousins, why would you resign with the
Speaker 1: Redskins knowing the curse Cousins or that Jake Ruden might
Speaker 1: not be there, Why wouldn't you go to San Francisco
Speaker 1: where you know Kyle Shanahan has a six year contract,
Speaker 1: so that gives some stability, but it also give stability
Speaker 1: for free agents in the next couple of weeks. Do
Speaker 1: you want to go to Redskins if you don't know
Speaker 1: what Jake Gruden's future is going to be, Well, you
Speaker 1: just signed him to a contract. You can always fire
Speaker 1: the guy. Obviously after a year. It's not like Dan Snyder.
Speaker 1: Couldn't you know, deal with eating a contract. But the
Speaker 1: whole the whole thing's a mess for a team that
Speaker 1: that should be feeling it should be feeling good about themselves.
Speaker 1: I don't know, want some games. Let's move on. An offense,
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Let's move on. Let's talk about Brandon Cooks,
Speaker 1: wide receiver of the Saints. Maybe not for much longer,
Speaker 1: as as everyone knows. He's been now floated as a
Speaker 1: trade asset for the Saints, and we heard reports late
Speaker 1: last week that the Patriots returned away. Uh. They had
Speaker 1: a report that they had offered a thirty second overall
Speaker 1: pick for Cooks that didn't work out. Now there's rumors
Speaker 1: that the Titans are in the mix, or perhaps the
Speaker 1: front rudder to to land Brandon Cooks. I mean, what
Speaker 1: is West? What is Brandon Cooks worth to you? Is
Speaker 1: this guy worth a a first round pick? Uh? In
Speaker 1: in uh? In your opinion? Brandon Cooks is not a
Speaker 1: true number one receiver. In my opinion, he's a really
Speaker 1: good deep threat. He's good. He's not gonna he's not
Speaker 1: gonna beat double teams. I don't think he makes his
Speaker 1: living beating slow cornerbacks because he's runs a four to
Speaker 1: five or four three forty. So he beats guys like
Speaker 1: Sean Smith and has two hundred yards against the Raiders.
Speaker 1: But he's not a number one receiver who's gonna move
Speaker 1: the chains consistently, be a red zone weapon and do
Speaker 1: all that. You can't anchor your passing game around him.
Speaker 1: And he needs a new contract if you trade for him.
Speaker 1: So I would not give up a first round pick
Speaker 1: myself for him. I would give up a second round pick. Well,
Speaker 1: the the Patriots report which came him the New Orleans
Speaker 1: Times picking and also said the Patriots were, you know,
Speaker 1: the Saints would be sending back a pick in that trade,
Speaker 1: so they were willing to give up number thirty two.
Speaker 1: But we don't know what that pick going back was.
Speaker 1: It might have been just the third round picks. And
Speaker 1: then you're only moving up around and half. It sounds
Speaker 1: like the Titans, at least according one reporter in first
Speaker 1: to try to get him. And this is guy who
Speaker 1: put up eleven hundred yards back to back years. It's
Speaker 1: a guy that that Bill Belichick loved when they played
Speaker 1: against each other in the off season. Uh. In terms
Speaker 1: of training camp, you're putting up eleven hundred yards with
Speaker 1: Drew Brees and Sean Payton. You're not putting up eleven
Speaker 1: hundred yards with Carson Wentz. You're putting up about eight
Speaker 1: hundred yards with the curve on that. Yeah, but as
Speaker 1: long as you don't think he's the number one, he's
Speaker 1: like the only guy. I think the interest in him
Speaker 1: around the league makes sense because he's gonna be a
Speaker 1: good starter. I Mean, the thing that fascinates me the
Speaker 1: most about this is is the little, uh little side action,
Speaker 1: a little social media talk about it, talk about it. Well,
Speaker 1: some people think where that you kind of gave me
Speaker 1: like a weird I didn't know if you wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about it. I mean, this, So, Michael Thomas, some
Speaker 1: people think there's you know, maybe maybe Brandon Cooks doesn't
Speaker 1: fit in there. You know, this isn't a secret. He
Speaker 1: wasn't happy last year. He complained about it publicly. Right
Speaker 1: in terms of not getting the ball, there was some
Speaker 1: talk about get him getting traded last year, and Mike Thomas,
Speaker 1: the Saints, you know, rookie receiver from a year ago,
Speaker 1: tweeted out over the weekend the jealousy will cause people
Speaker 1: to part ways, huh and then and a lot of
Speaker 1: people read into that, including Brandon Cooks, who just like
Speaker 1: minutes later, literally six minutes later, tweets out Trigger fingers
Speaker 1: turned to Twitter fingers. I'm not even sure what what
Speaker 1: are these kids talking about? I love it. Mike Thomas
Speaker 1: then backs off is just like, no, I'm just quoting
Speaker 1: a rap line. Wait for you guys to read into it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're quoting a rap line that that significant to you
Speaker 1: on some level exactly, that relates to your situation in
Speaker 1: life right now, Mike. You know people, you know people.
Speaker 1: This is one of the big issues with Twitter is
Speaker 1: that people they tweet things, and I think everyone has
Speaker 1: had their own issues in this room at some point
Speaker 1: you tweet something that you don't quite factor in that
Speaker 1: everyone that that follows you is going to actually see it,
Speaker 1: so it might come back on you for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: Mikey wasn't thinking. Mikey might have had a couple of
Speaker 1: drinks in him. Who has he left it up there?
Speaker 1: What time was it that? That's five in the after
Speaker 1: that's happy hour. That's my theory. I love I don't know.
Speaker 1: I love it. And then it somehow turned in on Monday.
Speaker 1: And this is getting too deep to Keenan Lewis, former
Speaker 1: Saints player, doing some Facebook live where he just where
Speaker 1: he buries Willie Snead. He was talking about it. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Let's go what is going on? I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on? Guys, get it together. Um, speaking
Speaker 1: of wide receivers. Uh, the Jets continued to tear it down.
Speaker 1: This happened after our show on Thursday. Brendan Marshall was
Speaker 1: sent packing upon his request. Is what we're hearing. Uh?
Speaker 1: He is yet to be as we know in many
Speaker 1: NFL seasons, he's yet to even play a playoff game.
Speaker 1: And the Jets aren't sniffing a playoff spot right now.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Sale, Yeah, the Jets, they're tearing it down,
Speaker 1: and Brandon Marshall the latest evidence that it's happening, and West,
Speaker 1: I'll set you up on this. You you. Todd Bowles
Speaker 1: spoke to the media from Indianapolis, uh and some of
Speaker 1: the comments he had about the direction of the franchise
Speaker 1: got on your gridiron, get off my gridiron. Todd Bulls
Speaker 1: just both faced lying to his fan base a three
Speaker 1: year old or Steve comes four year old. As I
Speaker 1: said in the article, Todd Bulls should be borrowing this, Toddler.
Speaker 1: How can you sit there in front of people and
Speaker 1: say you're not rebuilding and re emphasizing several times we're
Speaker 1: trying to win when you're joined the exact opposite. You
Speaker 1: are tearing your team down. It's going to be a
Speaker 1: pain for groelling rebuilding project. Say you're scamming for Sam
Speaker 1: as as Damn would say, Sam Donald or full for
Speaker 1: Donald whatever. But you this, you are not trying to win. Wes,
Speaker 1: what is he supposed to say? I'm just gonna play
Speaker 1: Devil's advocate here? What is the head coach? Look it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Look, we are rebuilding. These are the this
Speaker 1: is the life in the NFL. We have to rebuild.
Speaker 1: That's that's how the NFL works under his salary cap.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a tough year to stay with us.
Speaker 1: We're building something you can be proud of in the future,
Speaker 1: not we're trying to win in two thousand seventeen when
Speaker 1: you're obviously not trying to win. Now. This is I
Speaker 1: got you, I got your you're coming from that. That
Speaker 1: feels like something if you want that message being sent
Speaker 1: to your fans, perhaps it's your GM or your owner.
Speaker 1: The coaches, I feel like that the R word is
Speaker 1: something they don't like to say. And here's here's where
Speaker 1: Todd Bowls is banged. And he's not gonna say rebuilding
Speaker 1: because he knows he's in a bad spot right now
Speaker 1: because they hired him and then tried to play a
Speaker 1: little patchwork and try to build a contender and that,
Speaker 1: as we all know, didn't work out. So now two
Speaker 1: years into his regime, going into his third year, now
Speaker 1: they're starting a rebuild. What are the chances Todd bowl
Speaker 1: survives this even if they do it the right way,
Speaker 1: which knowing the Jets, Uh, there's a good chance they
Speaker 1: probably won't. But if it, if they really do tear
Speaker 1: this down and build slowly. What are the chances that
Speaker 1: he's around three years from now to see any of
Speaker 1: the fruits he's he's all of a sudden spot. The
Speaker 1: way he's handling this is not going to help keep
Speaker 1: him around. This is what weak franchises do. Do not
Speaker 1: pass on my back and tell me it's raining. Okay,
Speaker 1: one more counterpoint from from the GM. I would I kind,
Speaker 1: I hear you, but what most of these moves are
Speaker 1: cutting bad players who shouldn't be on the team. Brandon
Speaker 1: Marshall would be really the one exception I can think
Speaker 1: of where that's a move that you say, hey, you're
Speaker 1: not trying your best to win in two thousand seventeen,
Speaker 1: like I've been cutting Darrell Reeva's and Nick Mangles is
Speaker 1: just team removed. Smart teams do has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with rebuild. If you have somebody ready to play behind them, sure,
Speaker 1: but you're going with two fists of an offensive line
Speaker 1: and no secondary. Don't tell me you're trying to win.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Be honest with your fan base.
Speaker 1: Let's see what they're doing free agency. I hope they don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, if they spend aggressively and now they're well
Speaker 1: under the cap. Uh, then they really are trying to
Speaker 1: trying to win this year. But I wouldn't want them
Speaker 1: to do that. Uh, you know, of course they're trying
Speaker 1: to win. I mean the players on the team, they're
Speaker 1: they're trying to rebuild, right, But of course he's just
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. He's going to do his best to
Speaker 1: win games. He's also not the one. This is not true.
Speaker 1: They're not trying to win. On a scale of trying
Speaker 1: to win, I just mean todd balls, I don't think
Speaker 1: he's that involved with on a scale of priorities, where
Speaker 1: is winning coming in this year? It's very low on
Speaker 1: the list of getting your salary cap right, getting rid
Speaker 1: of your old players. Winning is not high on their
Speaker 1: list this year. I mean, it's just not that's part
Speaker 1: of the process to build a winner. So why not
Speaker 1: explain that. Well maybe he could have been more of it,
Speaker 1: but all right, as a jetsman, I didn't feel lie
Speaker 1: to I I kind of know the rules of the
Speaker 1: game that coaches are gonna talk a certain way and
Speaker 1: you just gotta read read through it. I do want
Speaker 1: to hear mccagnan, he's he is the key guy to me,
Speaker 1: because I also don't think Todd Bowles is making these
Speaker 1: decisions at all. I'm not even saying he's making them.
Speaker 1: But you're the You're the mouthpiece of the organization. You're
Speaker 1: the one who's talking to the to the fans. Treat
Speaker 1: the fans like adults. Let's move on and talk about uh.
Speaker 1: The San Francisco forty Niners another team that's rebuilding, and
Speaker 1: they had made the decision to cut veteran wide receiver
Speaker 1: Tory Smith. This coming from a new UH NFL networker
Speaker 1: insider on the scene, Steve Smith sr Uh. He reported Monday,
Speaker 1: sighting sources, Steve all plugged in. Let's get to see
Speaker 1: that some of our NFL network insiders are are breaking
Speaker 1: some news. Why what do you are you making some
Speaker 1: type of comment about myself? Well, yeah, not he I
Speaker 1: mean he, I mean, I'm around the NFL and it's funny.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, it's been a minute since I got
Speaker 1: some more breaking news. I you promised this another suited
Speaker 1: you had something. I actually had something this morning and
Speaker 1: Mike mccagnen um, I had a source at the Indianapolis
Speaker 1: Airport sitting next to mccagnet and an associate at the
Speaker 1: hotel at the airport bar and mccagnon, according to my source,
Speaker 1: pulled out a club soda out of his backpack to
Speaker 1: drink at the bar, while the associate order to drink
Speaker 1: from the bartender. So there's some breaking news macagnet saving
Speaker 1: money being cost effective at a time. Whether that's exactly
Speaker 1: where the Jets should be there, you go, you challenge
Speaker 1: me stretching. That's almost as big as my David Price
Speaker 1: Eats at the Airport Indianapolis, Cadoba exclusive that I had
Speaker 1: on Friday. That's pretty good one too. It's pretty good
Speaker 1: one too. Uh So Tor name Tori Smith, who the
Speaker 1: forty Niners signed to a saucy free agent deal a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, will be let go by the
Speaker 1: forty Niners. Uh. This comes after Smith had signed a
Speaker 1: five year, forty million dollar contract with twenty two million
Speaker 1: and guarantees UH in twenty fifteen. The Niners safe close
Speaker 1: to five million in cap space by cutting UH Smith
Speaker 1: and UH greg this. This was a a player that
Speaker 1: in Baltimore wasn't exactly the most well rounded wide receiver,
Speaker 1: but he did his job very well with Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: taking tops off defenses making plays. We just never saw
Speaker 1: that in San Francisco for a variety of reasons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: number one being their offense was got awful. He had
Speaker 1: two D sixty seven yeards. I'd have to go kind
Speaker 1: of watch a little more closely. How why he struggled
Speaker 1: that badly. He did lead the league in yards per
Speaker 1: catch just a year ago two thousand fifteen. So that
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a guy who's lost all of his speed.
Speaker 1: He's twenty eight years those turn I mean, he's not,
Speaker 1: like you said, not well rounded, but a lot of
Speaker 1: teams could use and we put him into our top
Speaker 1: top one oh one. I think right around number forty.
Speaker 1: You could see him returning to Baltimore in theory, but
Speaker 1: they have Mike Wallace, who they seem pretty happy with.
Speaker 1: Here's a tweet from Tori Smith that came out after
Speaker 1: the news. Don't be surprised when I'm back on track
Speaker 1: next year. I wouldn't be surprised West, would you. No,
Speaker 1: he's definitely needed greener pastures you have one of. Tory
Speaker 1: Smith is one of the least efficient catch percentage receivers
Speaker 1: in the league, catching passes from two of the least
Speaker 1: efficient quarterbacks in the league and Colin kaeper Kaepernick and
Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert. It was not a recipe for success. He
Speaker 1: was a bit of a one dimensional deep threat. I
Speaker 1: remember there was one season, maybe two thousand thirteen where
Speaker 1: they went to him earlier in the year and used
Speaker 1: him as a number one in Baltimore and he had
Speaker 1: a good month and then disappeared for the rest of
Speaker 1: the season. So I think the book on him is
Speaker 1: he's a bit like Mike Wallace, who they already have.
Speaker 1: Are Brandon Marshall and Tory Smith in the same general
Speaker 1: area on the Scientists top one oh one. I believe
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall should be at least one tier, if not
Speaker 1: several tiers higher. He's not. Really he's thirty three, and
Speaker 1: we put Tory Smith what forty one or something. Of
Speaker 1: all the wide receivers available on the market, there is
Speaker 1: only one who's a number one receiver, and it's Brandon Marshall.
Speaker 1: Alshon Jeffrey is not He's not a number one receiver.
Speaker 1: If he's not a number one receiver to me, Marshall
Speaker 1: is not at this stage of his Marshall has played
Speaker 1: that role before. If you'll remember all Sean Jeffrey's best
Speaker 1: year was the year that that Brandon Marshall was in
Speaker 1: Chicago drawing double teams. Brandon Marshall's at this point had
Speaker 1: so many surgeries and his thirty two years old, about
Speaker 1: to be thirty. You know he, I know, he he
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be the fastest guy. But to me,
Speaker 1: he's the definition of a number two possession quality receiver.
Speaker 1: But it's just this Tory Smith moves adds depth to what,
Speaker 1: you know, something I wrote about on on Friday for
Speaker 1: a piece of different like trends in this market. I
Speaker 1: mean there's wide receivers, any type of wide receiver you want,
Speaker 1: you can get it. I mean you got Alshon and
Speaker 1: Terrell Prior, who are kind of the really high ceiling
Speaker 1: boom or bust. You know, you got deep threats now
Speaker 1: with Tori Smith, DeShawn Jackson, Kenny Stills. You got Brandon
Speaker 1: Marshall and Garson were kind of like these veteran guys
Speaker 1: you can trust. I mean, you've got kind of head
Speaker 1: cases on a second chance, or not head cases, but
Speaker 1: guys who've had some trouble. Michael Floyd Kendall. Right, you know,
Speaker 1: well we'll throw into that mix, he said some he's
Speaker 1: been a little up and down. Uh, you got you
Speaker 1: got a little bit of everything. If you need a
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Like your phone started ringing and you got flustered,
Speaker 1: you made a you made repeated what you were saying,
Speaker 1: just to get get your equilibrium back there, like just
Speaker 1: to I honestly just wanted to cover up the sound
Speaker 1: of the phone ring. Uh. Let's move on more wide
Speaker 1: receiver talk. Terrell Pryor was not hit with the franchise
Speaker 1: tag by the Browns, which makes you think there's a
Speaker 1: good chance or at least, you know, let's say, everything
Speaker 1: in life is kind of but there's a there's a
Speaker 1: good chance that Troll Prior is playing at another UH
Speaker 1: city other than Cleveland in ten and there is no
Speaker 1: shortage of suitors, including according to the Cleveland Plane Dealer
Speaker 1: that reports that five teams are interested in Prior group
Speaker 1: UH that includes the Steelers, the Giants, the forty Niners,
Speaker 1: the Titans, and the Eagles. Not surprising, Wes right, Not
Speaker 1: surprising that he's drawing interests. No, he's fully expecting to
Speaker 1: draw interests. What surprising is that he's making it to
Speaker 1: the market for a team that is a hundred two
Speaker 1: million dollars in cap space he gown. I mean way
Speaker 1: more than fifty fifty. I would say basically of every
Speaker 1: free agent at this point, you know we're taping this
Speaker 1: right before. If you can get if you get to
Speaker 1: this point, you're usually gone. Not not a d but
Speaker 1: a guy like Prior, who Sashi Brown said, you know,
Speaker 1: he's a priority to keep, but we won't panic if
Speaker 1: he leaves. That was a little a sign that and
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of a red flag for Prior
Speaker 1: that a team that desperate for young talent is so
Speaker 1: willing that they don't they don't think he's worth the money.
Speaker 1: It's a little surprising. Uh yeah. And there heard some
Speaker 1: whispers that maybe they were a little apprehensive about handing
Speaker 1: over a big, guaranteed deal, which made an even more
Speaker 1: sense to me that you would hit him with the franchise.
Speaker 1: That's what I had. Another year with him, get to
Speaker 1: know him a little bit more, and then do more
Speaker 1: business if you choose to do so. But yeah, I
Speaker 1: wonder if that sends a message to any of the
Speaker 1: other teams and what we're not hearing that they're hearing.
Speaker 1: Maybe he won't get as much money as we think,
Speaker 1: because maybe there's some bad bus. Certainly there are a
Speaker 1: lot of players that were given this guy, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: throwing some sky shaver, a skyscraper shade at this guy
Speaker 1: all through the season. We don't know what's going out
Speaker 1: for a prior. Maybe it will affect his market. Would
Speaker 1: you expect him to be I would expect him to
Speaker 1: be a little bit more amenable to staying in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: considering Hugh Jackson's the one who turned his career around. Well,
Speaker 1: if they're getting beaten by significant amount of money, what's
Speaker 1: he gonna do? I mean, if the Eagles wanted more?
Speaker 1: For instance, he had a great game against the Eagles,
Speaker 1: who's kind of talked talked him up at various points.
Speaker 1: The Titans seemed to be in the forty, seemed to
Speaker 1: be in all these receivers. People look at him and
Speaker 1: I think they think that's a that could be a
Speaker 1: number one receiver. And maybe the Browns. Browns, don't I
Speaker 1: feel bad though, he should be a Brown Listen if
Speaker 1: if if he go, we'll get let's stick a pin
Speaker 1: on it, because he's gonna come up a little later
Speaker 1: in today's show. Uh, let's move on to middling QB talk. Alright,
Speaker 1: last item of the news today, A lot of middling qbs.
Speaker 1: You know, some people could say mediocre qbs. Other people
Speaker 1: could say, you know, marginal qbs. I say kind of
Speaker 1: crappy qubs. I call him qbs who will get you fired?
Speaker 1: Qbs that will get you fired. I'm just going middling
Speaker 1: because trying to be nice and respectful of these men.
Speaker 1: I mean, imagine if you were listening to a podcast
Speaker 1: reviewing other podcasts and they were like, all right, let's
Speaker 1: get to the mid lean podcast host section. I think
Speaker 1: if I don't think you would find that, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think you would feel like that was a
Speaker 1: soft landing. No, but it's the price you pay for
Speaker 1: life in the public eye. You know that better than anyone.
Speaker 1: All your time in front of the camera on basic table, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: was that you shreddy as my brother Dean, he used
Speaker 1: to love the Eddie van Halen style. All right, let's
Speaker 1: start with Mike Glennon, who continues to the boggle the
Speaker 1: mind uh in terms of his value uh for a
Speaker 1: lot of people. And there's a report out there, um
Speaker 1: from Yahoo UH that multiple NFL sources believe that Glennon
Speaker 1: could fetch as much as fifteen million per year. This
Speaker 1: is uh, Mike Glennon we're talking about here. Also a
Speaker 1: report that the Bucks had pushed hard to keep Mike
Speaker 1: Glennon in house and they were willing to make him
Speaker 1: the highest paid backup quarterback in football, which would put
Speaker 1: put him in the eight million range. But obviously, if
Speaker 1: you're Mike Glennon, you have a chance to make double
Speaker 1: that or close to it, You're gonna get out of town.
Speaker 1: West You you we talked about it last week. You
Speaker 1: wrote about the shifting quarterback market. Mike Glennon fourteen to
Speaker 1: fifteen million a year, what's happening in this world? And
Speaker 1: that's that's where the quarterback markets at. And as Greg
Speaker 1: has pointed out, that would be the lowest page starting
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL. It was not on his rookie contract,
Speaker 1: So that's that's where it is. My point would be,
Speaker 1: why even get rid of Jay Cutler if the best
Speaker 1: you can do is Mike Glenning, You're just getting John
Speaker 1: Fox fired. I don't see the Mike Glennon appeal. The
Speaker 1: Buccaneers were the were the in the same place two
Speaker 1: years ago as the Bears are now, and they decided
Speaker 1: Mike Glennon wasn't good enough, so they were going to
Speaker 1: get Jameis Winston. They're projecting, I mean, obviously there they don't.
Speaker 1: They see Jake Cutler. First of all, he's just worn
Speaker 1: out as welcome, but they see him as a finished product,
Speaker 1: and there's no way. And I'd like to see how
Speaker 1: this deal shakes out before I kill it or before
Speaker 1: we kill it. In terms of the money. To me,
Speaker 1: I don't it doesn't work. Get me worked up that
Speaker 1: you're paying him thirteen or fourteen versus ten. It's basically
Speaker 1: is he just gonna be your starter or not. They're projecting.
Speaker 1: They're seeing a guy who only played eighteen starts. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're like making final conclusions about a guy who's played
Speaker 1: eighteen starts in his first two seasons. You haven't seen
Speaker 1: him since Jared Goss played sixteen starts or whatever it is,
Speaker 1: ten starts. I've seen this. I've seen people project braining right,
Speaker 1: and I've seen people project has the same skill set
Speaker 1: as those guys. The differences. I think if you're Ryan
Speaker 1: Pace who was in his division, you saw him play,
Speaker 1: maybe you know you've done your work on him. He
Speaker 1: thinks that he saw more during that rookie and sophomore
Speaker 1: year than just projecting he thought he saw. He thinks
Speaker 1: he sees a good quarterback. He saw his two quarterback
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer and Matt Barkley moved the offense better last
Speaker 1: year than than Mike Glennon did in Tampa Bay Um
Speaker 1: speaking of Chicago Bears, who are thought to be Um
Speaker 1: one of the favorites to land Glennon, they're also hedging
Speaker 1: their bets, I guess. And they got Brian Hoyer on
Speaker 1: the phone, who is in house, and they want him back.
Speaker 1: He's going to be a free agent. Uh So they
Speaker 1: are in a situation, Greg Wor it seems like the
Speaker 1: opening day starter, and you know, who knows how this
Speaker 1: stuff plays out, But there's a kind of a good
Speaker 1: chance the Bears have either Hoyer or Glennon behind center.
Speaker 1: And is that gonna is that get Is that gonna
Speaker 1: get you excited? No? Ali ban Pury downstairs, a resident
Speaker 1: Bears fan, not excited about the QB situation in Chicago
Speaker 1: right now. Well, it's not an exciting team. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I this this team is in a terrible spot.
Speaker 1: I think Glennon is going to be their quarter It
Speaker 1: really just sounds like Glennon. I don't even know if
Speaker 1: I totally it doesn't. At least your buddy, you know,
Speaker 1: miniche Meta. Dan doesn't believe they're even really in on Glennon,
Speaker 1: that they're kind of being used, you know, to prop
Speaker 1: up he he likes Tyrode to the Jets, which should
Speaker 1: be if Tyrod would probably be cheaper right in the
Speaker 1: range now he would not be cheaper. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think if he's a veteran out on the market, I
Speaker 1: think Tyrod would do Yeah. I mean the weird thing
Speaker 1: is that fourteen and fifteen, we'll see what he gets.
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't it's like we're making this
Speaker 1: based off like agents throwing out numbers like it might
Speaker 1: not be. We should trust them though, right the Bears
Speaker 1: are under more pressure than any team to get I think,
Speaker 1: to get this right this offseason because then because otherwise
Speaker 1: Pace and Fox get fired. Right. But the only answer
Speaker 1: is go over pay for a quarterback who's good, not
Speaker 1: over pay for mediocrity, over pay and draft picks for
Speaker 1: Garoppolo or draft somebody at number three. Overall, you're just
Speaker 1: spinning your Wheels if you're going to get Mike glennon.
Speaker 1: Another middling quarterback is Colt McCoy, who is currently the
Speaker 1: backup with Washington, and a good backup. That's type of
Speaker 1: guy you'd like to have as a number two. But
Speaker 1: according to m m qbis Albert Brier, the Redskins, they
Speaker 1: think that if the decision is made internally, let's move
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins in a trade, let's say to San Francisco
Speaker 1: or where wherever that Colte McCoy could step in and
Speaker 1: um handle this offense and and steer the ship in
Speaker 1: an effective way. Uh, that doesn't sound true, West. I
Speaker 1: believe the exact quote was we can still win with
Speaker 1: Courte McCoy, And my answer would be sure, two or
Speaker 1: three games out of Oh, come on, McCoy. Pull. McCoy
Speaker 1: is a tiny, tiny quarterback who gets hurt every time
Speaker 1: he plays and can't last. He doesn't have a strong
Speaker 1: enough arm. First of all, he's like, uh, he's like
Speaker 1: Johnny Manzel without the drinking problem. Yeah, he looked, he looked.
Speaker 1: He looked much better than Johnny Manzel in two thousand
Speaker 1: fourteen when when he had a chance to play. He's
Speaker 1: looked pretty good in the preseason. I guess what that's
Speaker 1: done in Washington is make them believe that really there's
Speaker 1: not much difference between him and Cousins, that that that
Speaker 1: Gruden is, that this system is built for these types
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks, and that it's not a huge difference. He
Speaker 1: had eight point three yards per attempt for Washington. I
Speaker 1: don't I'm with you. I think this is I don't
Speaker 1: know if ludicrous is the right word, but I think
Speaker 1: they're trying to sell something that maybe they don't even believe.
Speaker 1: All these organizations trying to sell bad quarterbacks are bad organizations.
Speaker 1: And finally, Chase Daniel he he finishes the quadrant of middlers. UH.
Speaker 1: He is UH currently the highest paid backup in football
Speaker 1: seven million dollars with the Eagles. UH he is on
Speaker 1: the market, or at least as drawing trade interest, according
Speaker 1: to a report from rap sheet UH last week, UH
Speaker 1: and UH New Jersey Advanced Media says the Jets are interested.
Speaker 1: That to me, from the Jets standpoint, is a much
Speaker 1: more sensible fit. UH. If you could bring him in
Speaker 1: at seven million as your starter, you're saving money. You're
Speaker 1: not going nuts on a fifteen million per year. Mike
Speaker 1: Glennon deal and you you're doing work. Uh in other phases,
Speaker 1: try to get your franchise competitor of again, hold the
Speaker 1: fourth guy? There was one, right, But Glennon, I think
Speaker 1: you know we can argue. We don't need to argue
Speaker 1: about Mike Glenn I think you could see an upside
Speaker 1: with him that you wouldn't necessarily see what Daniel. I
Speaker 1: think Daniel could be a fine starter. But this is
Speaker 1: this is a red flag to me. This is the
Speaker 1: Eagles saying, whoops, why did we give this guy all
Speaker 1: this money? I mean, that's the only reason this is
Speaker 1: out there. That just the fact this is out there
Speaker 1: tells me we want to cut Chase Daniel most likely
Speaker 1: if he didn't if we didn't give him guaranteed money.
Speaker 1: He is making guaranteed money five million dollars this year,
Speaker 1: and he was a pain in the ass. After they played,
Speaker 1: Carson wentz over him and they were like, why are
Speaker 1: we dealing with this with Chase Daniel? All right, there
Speaker 1: you go, that's what's happening in the news. Let's not
Speaker 1: move right into it on the line right now? Uh?
Speaker 1: He did. He posted on Twitter what looked like a
Speaker 1: hidden camera shot, uh, with move the sticks. To me,
Speaker 1: it seems like lands zerline. Are you there, Lance, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm here, guys. How are you doing? You know how
Speaker 1: you doing? Buddy? And good thanks again for joining something
Speaker 1: around the NFL podcast, it seems to me. And and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry by the way that we didn't get a
Speaker 1: chance to get dinner together in Houston. Dude, that was
Speaker 1: that was part of the I had to get in
Speaker 1: with That's part of the thing. I had to get
Speaker 1: in with them, you know what I mean. I had
Speaker 1: to sell him that I was on team Daniel. I
Speaker 1: had that. I had the camera set up the whole
Speaker 1: time underneath my winter coat because I had to have
Speaker 1: a winter coat when it's fifty. People have to check
Speaker 1: out your Twitter account to know what we're talking ahead, Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: well basically my Twitter account is at Lanti's Airlines. Z
Speaker 1: I E R L E I N was on a
Speaker 1: podcast with you guys previously this this past week, and
Speaker 1: I mentioned that Daniel had some you know, I knew
Speaker 1: there were some issues. He told me that books on
Speaker 1: tape as a nice alternative to me listening to your podcast,
Speaker 1: and and uh so I decided to record him, um,
Speaker 1: just to see if I could get it on tape,
Speaker 1: and I, luckily I was able to get it on
Speaker 1: tape with him, uh taking shots. I'm telling you, I
Speaker 1: don't know the devil in a literally called me the
Speaker 1: devil literally with with Greg Rosenthal, who I tried to
Speaker 1: stick up for you, Greg, but he basically just said
Speaker 1: you patted yourself on the back all the time, and
Speaker 1: and he disregarded west Is also the studio with us
Speaker 1: right now. Altogether, I took it as he was keeping
Speaker 1: my name off his lips. Yeah, I mean I would
Speaker 1: consider it a good thing. He said. Sessler's like he's
Speaker 1: an alright guy or something like that, which, in the
Speaker 1: context of what he had to say, I think that
Speaker 1: was a big check. Sometimes I wonder if Cessler could
Speaker 1: be covertly a mole for Jeremiah the way the way
Speaker 1: Jeremiah speaks positively, Cessler, I can tell you this, it
Speaker 1: felt it felt strange. It did feels strange, all right,
Speaker 1: So we can agree on that. Definitely strange. Lands Airline,
Speaker 1: who was just all over NFL network. He is one
Speaker 1: of our top draft analysts. I'm gonna say it, he's
Speaker 1: the best draft analysts in the building. Amazing, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and it's not just that I'm lean out
Speaker 1: for you and trying to, you know, get you the
Speaker 1: dirt on DJ either. No, not at all, not at all.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you could read that he has his bock
Speaker 1: drafts out and his writings on NFL dot com, you
Speaker 1: scene on TV. He's also on the radio in Houston.
Speaker 1: But so we wanted to catch up with you now
Speaker 1: on the other side of the combine, uh Lands, And
Speaker 1: and I guess where do we want to start because
Speaker 1: one place we just brought up move the sticks. He
Speaker 1: was bowled over by this defensive back class. If you're
Speaker 1: a team, if you're a needy team in terms of
Speaker 1: the secondary, are you pinching yourself after what you watched
Speaker 1: over the last few days. Yeah, I think so. It's
Speaker 1: it's unique in the sense that it's it's not only
Speaker 1: is it athletic and fast, but there's incredible size and
Speaker 1: linked in this draft class. And that's a I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's a direct response to the size that's
Speaker 1: in the league. I just think it happens to be
Speaker 1: a bunch of big guys. It used to be big players.
Speaker 1: If you were big in athletic you went to wide
Speaker 1: receiver in high school. That's where it used to be.
Speaker 1: And I think one more teams are saying, you know what,
Speaker 1: let's take big and athletic and let's let's start working
Speaker 1: on that on the defensive side, because these seven on
Speaker 1: seven have created these mega offenses in high school, and
Speaker 1: of course it's leaked into the college world clearly, as
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things. I don't think
Speaker 1: it has anything to do with the NFL and big,
Speaker 1: big wide receivers in the NFL. I think it's a
Speaker 1: correlation of what's happened in high schools and then subsequently colleges,
Speaker 1: and I think I think the pros are gonna benefit
Speaker 1: because there are a ton of six ft two corners
Speaker 1: relatively speaking, like sixth eight in the combine, and I'd
Speaker 1: say three fourth of them ran really fast today too.
Speaker 1: Just highly unusual to see guys who are over six
Speaker 1: to running sub fourt five. It's just you just don't
Speaker 1: see it much. So I think there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of excitement. How many get drafted in the first round. Okay,
Speaker 1: so right, just just cornerbacks in general, Okay, I would
Speaker 1: say there could be. I would say there could be
Speaker 1: as many as four, and there could be as many
Speaker 1: as four safeties, So eight dbs um possible to go
Speaker 1: out of the first thirty two picks. That would that
Speaker 1: would be rather wild. And I look at my team,
Speaker 1: uh Lance and your latest mock draft, which can fund
Speaker 1: and NFL dot com. You have Leonard Fournette, the l
Speaker 1: s U running back going to the Jets at six.
Speaker 1: But I would not be surprised at all if they
Speaker 1: went and got one of these dbs A T and
Speaker 1: team like the Jets, and they're not. They're far from
Speaker 1: alone that really want to beef up the back end
Speaker 1: of their defense. No, and I think you're right in Sydney,
Speaker 1: jones Um. You know if Sydney, it depends on what
Speaker 1: your what's your taste is. I kind of had a feeling.
Speaker 1: I haven't had tease table and any either of my
Speaker 1: I think I had him in my first mock draft.
Speaker 1: I don't think I had him in my second one.
Speaker 1: I mean, correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe I've got
Speaker 1: him in there, but I don't think I put him
Speaker 1: in version two. And that's because I was anticipating him
Speaker 1: running kind of a slower forty based on something scouts
Speaker 1: were telling me, Um, I do think though Kevin King,
Speaker 1: for example, really helped himself and he's going to move
Speaker 1: into the second round now. Fabian Moreau from u C.
Speaker 1: L a. Is going to move into the second round now.
Speaker 1: And you look at the Jets, and if Latin Moore
Speaker 1: is off the board too, then that could be a
Speaker 1: landing spot for Kevin King. Um, I'm not Kevin King,
Speaker 1: but Rother Sidney Jones at number six to the Jets.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I would, Dan, I would, I would agree
Speaker 1: with you. That could definitely be a spot for corner
Speaker 1: because here's the thing. You can't say, well, it's a
Speaker 1: it's a deep secondary draft. There's a ton of cornerbacks
Speaker 1: and safeties and we can just wait now. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's gonna be the case at all. I think
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a run on defensive backs and it's
Speaker 1: gonna push all of the good ones into the first
Speaker 1: three rounds. Do you think the quarterbacks change their order
Speaker 1: at all in this week? Like, was there of the
Speaker 1: of the four quarterbacks you know thought to you know,
Speaker 1: possibly be first round picks. You think one helped themselves
Speaker 1: and and any of them hurt themselves at least compared
Speaker 1: to the other this week. You know, it's so hard
Speaker 1: to say because it depends on who you talk to.
Speaker 1: Everyone kind of saw the workout differently. It seems like
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a big change personally. Now we're
Speaker 1: also assuming that there was a standard idea of who
Speaker 1: one through four is, and I don't think that's the
Speaker 1: case at all. I think that was all over the
Speaker 1: place as it were. So you know, I think what
Speaker 1: you're talking about right now is did any of the
Speaker 1: teams kind of change their number two and number three
Speaker 1: and shift them around? To be honest, I still think
Speaker 1: Mr Trobinsky is going to be the first quarterback off
Speaker 1: the board. I think John Watson you wanted to be
Speaker 1: called Mitchell second? Is that what's that he wants to
Speaker 1: be called? Yeah? Yeah, that's like Jeremiah likes to go
Speaker 1: by Daniel and it's like, hey, bro, I'm a Daniel too,
Speaker 1: but I keep it real. I am who I am?
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Well that's and that's why I roll with
Speaker 1: you guys. But um yeah, it's Mitchell Trapisky. I think
Speaker 1: Mitchell goes first and of a red flag to throw
Speaker 1: that out there the day before the combine to add thee.
Speaker 1: If that's what's on your mind right when you saw
Speaker 1: up to the combine, that's that's the type of draft
Speaker 1: analysts analysis you get from the Around the NFL podcast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like it feels And he said it's because
Speaker 1: his mom wanted him to go by Mitchell, And I'm thinking, well,
Speaker 1: you know, are you gonna be coachable? Maur Is mom
Speaker 1: going to tell you? What? WHOA interesting? I can't think
Speaker 1: of anything less relevant to playing quarterback in the NFL
Speaker 1: than combine drills after this weekend? Do you do you
Speaker 1: think any of these quarterbacks is going in the first
Speaker 1: three picks to one of the teams that desperately needs
Speaker 1: a quarterback. No, okay, no, And you know I have
Speaker 1: been the last two moth drafts. But after watching all
Speaker 1: these guys on display back to back to back, you
Speaker 1: take a quarterback in the top ten with all this
Speaker 1: defensive talent, I mean, good luck? Good luck? What is
Speaker 1: even when you talk about O. J. Howard, who's gonna
Speaker 1: be kind of a special tied end, It's just, man,
Speaker 1: you're really you're really gambling on quarterbacks if you take
Speaker 1: them that high? What is the the se a lane
Speaker 1: of John Ross? You know the receiver. By now everyone
Speaker 1: listening probably knows. He said the record with the four
Speaker 1: two two forty. And you know, I don't know a
Speaker 1: lot about John Ross, but the things I liked hearing
Speaker 1: about him was it he wasn't just usually the fastest guys,
Speaker 1: the guys who make big names as the fastest guy
Speaker 1: in the combine are not particularly exciting players. They're kind
Speaker 1: of just track one speed guys. But he he sounds
Speaker 1: like he is a legitimate prospect and receiver before he
Speaker 1: did any of this. Yeah, he was. He's a real guy.
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's a He's a guy like Will Fuller.
Speaker 1: And if he can beat you deep, well cool. Well.
Speaker 1: First of all, he has better hands a Wolf Fuller.
Speaker 1: But the second thing is when you have guys who
Speaker 1: are that fast, it puts cornerbacks on their heels so
Speaker 1: quickly that the underneath stuff is just wide, wide open.
Speaker 1: That's a big benefit. He can get a six yard
Speaker 1: hitch anytime, you know, six yard will stop route anytime
Speaker 1: he wants it, because unless teams starts to press cover,
Speaker 1: and that is something he's going to have to deal
Speaker 1: with on the next level. Because Alabama bothered him a
Speaker 1: little bit in the playoffs with some press coverage, but
Speaker 1: he is a real wide receiver who can give you problems.
Speaker 1: He's a little bit slight, and he does have some
Speaker 1: medical issues in his background which he's gonna have to
Speaker 1: have surgery right now. As a matter of fact, he's
Speaker 1: decided to have it after running a sports you too.
Speaker 1: But you know it's it's similar to de Sean Jackson,
Speaker 1: it really is. You know, he's not gonna be a
Speaker 1: high volume guy for from a fantasy standpoint if you're wondering,
Speaker 1: but he is going to be somebody who's probably gonna
Speaker 1: go for about nineteen plus yards per catch and who
Speaker 1: felt way too far in the draft that Sean Jackson
Speaker 1: was a swinging the miss by by GMS. Well, and
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If you are when you
Speaker 1: have this guy on your team, like once again, from
Speaker 1: a fantasy standpoint, when he goes off, you're just gonna
Speaker 1: bury somebody. But when he's on your regular Dan Hansas
Speaker 1: New York Jets, that's my favorite team football team, I
Speaker 1: think there could be some frustration because I do think
Speaker 1: that he's gonna be kind of a hit or miss
Speaker 1: week to week, feast or famine type of player based
Speaker 1: on how teams are probably gonna use them. All Right,
Speaker 1: one more west ahead. We've mentioned fun guys in every
Speaker 1: position so far. John Ross for nette O J Howard.
Speaker 1: What are the chances that Christian McCaffrey is the most
Speaker 1: fun player to watch on offense in this entire draft class?
Speaker 1: It's you know, there's a chance. I gotta tell you something.
Speaker 1: I watched him in college. We all a lot of
Speaker 1: college football fans. Did you knew what you're getting? He
Speaker 1: was a little banged up this year. He wasn't really
Speaker 1: the same player statistically, and then you watch him in
Speaker 1: these drills and he just killed it. And I know
Speaker 1: this is where few the people who just say underwear Olympics,
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. But yeah, but but but you know
Speaker 1: what he's changed when you start comparing him to other
Speaker 1: running backs and you say, look at his change of direction,
Speaker 1: look at the way look how quick he is, look
Speaker 1: at how he catches the football. These are real things
Speaker 1: that happened on a football field. You know, how quickly
Speaker 1: you can change directions when somebody's diving in at your legs,
Speaker 1: how quickly you can avoid penetration into the backfield and
Speaker 1: continue your run on how you get out of the
Speaker 1: backfield and catch the ball. This is real world of stuff,
Speaker 1: and we're able to see him next to Dalvin Cook
Speaker 1: and next to you know, some comparable size, speed type guys.
Speaker 1: And I thought he really really helped himself a lot.
Speaker 1: And I didn't see him as a first round back before,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure I would take him in the
Speaker 1: first round, but I think he has got a great
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Speaker 1: coverage of the draft. This is this is Z time.
Speaker 1: Thank you, alright a a friend of the show. Lance
Speaker 1: and especially the Chips are down now in the draft
Speaker 1: analysts war uh and and we have Lances an Alty
Speaker 1: at least it seems that way. You always gotta keep
Speaker 1: your peepers open, Greg, but it seems like Lances an
Speaker 1: Ally of the Around the NFL podcast. This is where
Speaker 1: you know it'd be fun if the podcast was recorded
Speaker 1: because I would love everyone at home to see Dan
Speaker 1: literally prying his eyes wide open and holding them open
Speaker 1: while he's saying, to keep those peepers wide Do we
Speaker 1: need fake Do we need allies in a fake war?
Speaker 1: I mean you think it's fake, but you gotta read again,
Speaker 1: just like with your say, oh, don't lie to meet
Speaker 1: Todd bowls. No, no, no, closer. We was all right,
Speaker 1: all right, now we got Lance off the phone. Now
Speaker 1: is the time we have to get one of the
Speaker 1: great heroes of the Round the NFL podcast on the phone, because, um,
Speaker 1: with our sandwich props, go get my lunch, uh, you
Speaker 1: human monster. We are going to make predictions for the
Speaker 1: free agency period. The legal tampering period begins uh in
Speaker 1: less than twenty four hours. And with Mark not here,
Speaker 1: we're we were improvising a little bit. Number one, We're
Speaker 1: gonna have Mark. We reached out to him. He was
Speaker 1: able to get out of his deathbed and put together
Speaker 1: a list of some of his own uh sandwich props. Um.
Speaker 1: And also we said, who else can we get involved
Speaker 1: with this? So he picked up the bat phone and
Speaker 1: we called up a man that resides in a haunted
Speaker 1: mansion in New Jersey. I think you know exactly who
Speaker 1: we're talking about, or are you kidding me? It's Connor
Speaker 1: or a man's band got him borgage, drinks the brown
Speaker 1: stuff that rends up his poliage and ex beating Manton
Speaker 1: my not State Ballets and Sydney in the backing blobs
Speaker 1: superple snubs. So it's Connor or Fando today. He got
Speaker 1: some mellow snubs. So he's cutter Landow today. Who are
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Gonna catchy tune? It's it's even better
Speaker 1: now because it just eats away Gregg's inside. Well, what
Speaker 1: a relief to get through our mandated two bits where
Speaker 1: Dan sings per show Out of the way, Sidney? Did
Speaker 1: I demand that you play that today? I don't like
Speaker 1: kitching sides. That's a yes, that's a yes. What I
Speaker 1: asked for was this? Hey, Connor? You there? Sorry, Connor, Connor,
Speaker 1: some internal squabbling. I'm sorry that the kids have to
Speaker 1: see it sometimes, you know. Yeah, you go talk shop though.
Speaker 1: How you doing, buddy, I'm doing well, it's uh, it's
Speaker 1: it feels weird not doing this in Indianapolis, the happiest
Speaker 1: place on earth I had. The last interaction I had
Speaker 1: with Connor was very sad and and in fact because
Speaker 1: uh Connor, uh and I had a date planned for
Speaker 1: the last night or the last morning. Um, we were
Speaker 1: gonna go to one of the Chase Connor knows all
Speaker 1: the breakfast joints and all the lunch joints and all
Speaker 1: the dinner joints and all the cigar joints in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to go to what was the name
Speaker 1: of the place? Yeah, a cafe paa. Yeah. And I
Speaker 1: got this text at n thirteen, Am, Danny, this is disappointing,
Speaker 1: but I got a bail bodies rebelling in a serious way.
Speaker 1: Tried to make it work, but it's not happening. Uh,
Speaker 1: why was your body rebel? Yeah? What do you want?
Speaker 1: Let's are you okay? A lot of illness around the
Speaker 1: around the NFL podcast. Oh, everything's fun. I just drank
Speaker 1: for like three nights in a row and then uh,
Speaker 1: like everything was just like stopped eating and doing everything
Speaker 1: like that, just stop it for one day. So I
Speaker 1: had to listen, all right, you had And I don't
Speaker 1: know if we could always edit this out of the show,
Speaker 1: but when we went to st Elmo, the same steakhouse
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis are Last Night Together, you revealed that during
Speaker 1: a candid conversation with your doctor, he suggested if you
Speaker 1: were going to can tinue is to drink as much
Speaker 1: as you do to maybe move over to the wine
Speaker 1: und stuff. You just said, you know, antioxidants might be
Speaker 1: good for you at this stage in your life. So
Speaker 1: there you go, all right, Connor, So this is a
Speaker 1: big it's a big stage for you on the podcast
Speaker 1: because never before have you been involved with a full
Speaker 1: round of sandwich props, which, uh, if you're new to
Speaker 1: listening to the show, you should know that. But before
Speaker 1: a free agency, we all make predictions. Uh that's just
Speaker 1: the fourth annual, the fourth annual. We're still in that
Speaker 1: golden era where we make predictions and then each of
Speaker 1: us has the opportunity to challenge that person. Uh say no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's wrong. In fact, I will put a sandwich on it,
Speaker 1: a high octane sandwich. Uh, in fact that you are wrong.
Speaker 1: And then it's all kept and all tracked by the
Speaker 1: great Nick Fortier of Go get my Lunch dot Org. Yes,
Speaker 1: thank you. Uh. So we're gonna go around the horn
Speaker 1: and La sid you are serving as the conduit to
Speaker 1: Mr Sessler. Is that Correctam? He's giving me very specific instruction.
Speaker 1: So we're of one line. I am channeling the spirit
Speaker 1: of Cessler. Alright, good for you and good luck, I
Speaker 1: should say. All right, So the first we'll start. We're
Speaker 1: gonna start with two that you know, communal Okay, we
Speaker 1: always have some communal um props, and we'll start with
Speaker 1: this one. Last year, well, what was the last year?
Speaker 1: What where will Blank land? Who was the big name
Speaker 1: lest years and two years ago? It was in Dominicans.
Speaker 1: Last year we did that's exactly. So this year we're
Speaker 1: gonna stay in the running back zone. And here is
Speaker 1: the first prop. And whoever gets it right gets sandwiches
Speaker 1: from everyone else. So this is a big score if
Speaker 1: you can get it. Uh, if you're the only one
Speaker 1: to say that the team. But where does Adrian Peterson land?
Speaker 1: And let's start with Connor or are a simple answer? Connor?
Speaker 1: Where do you see Peterson landing? I see him heading
Speaker 1: for warmer waters down in Tampa Bay. Uh. Two? Oh,
Speaker 1: so it looks like a paranormal activity going on at
Speaker 1: the Hunted mansion. Are you's still there? I'm here, I'm
Speaker 1: ready to go. Baby. Okay, we so you're saying he's
Speaker 1: going to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers West. What do you got?
Speaker 1: I have the Oakland Raiders. Ah, very good. I also
Speaker 1: have the Oakland Raiders. Uh. And I thought I was
Speaker 1: gonna get you on that West because they were only
Speaker 1: kind of in the middle of your landing spots. Piece.
Speaker 1: I have adjusted my thinking since then. Yes, um, I
Speaker 1: I thought, and we talked about this on the podcast
Speaker 1: last week, that it all kind of lined up with
Speaker 1: the Raiders philosophy on veterans and Peterson looking for that
Speaker 1: one last spot where he could be the star on
Speaker 1: the Contender and he loves their offensive to the Raiders
Speaker 1: make a lot of sense. And what about you, Greg,
Speaker 1: I really thought I was gonna get the Bucks, but
Speaker 1: I don't like I don't like going on like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to split any sandwich is So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with the Vikings just staying home. That was my
Speaker 1: other one. I mean, yeah, it's it would be no
Speaker 1: you know, if Connor got there first. Credit to him.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't call that an onion hanger, but it's probably sound. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is a big onion, giant sweet Spanish onions are good
Speaker 1: and a red Zeppelin is a big red onion. It's
Speaker 1: all true, old man. All right, the next one, Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, con do it? Yeah, Mark Spirit of Sessler says, uh,
Speaker 1: staying in Okay, you got locked in either way. Greg, Sorry,
Speaker 1: buddy came back at me in a big spot. So
Speaker 1: now you're almost Yeah, you probably would have rather gone
Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay. Now, peek behind the curtain. Mark texted
Speaker 1: me and said, Raiders a little on the fences. He
Speaker 1: told Sydney, Minnesota, well, peek behind this curtain. Uh, spired
Speaker 1: sessor did not know that it would have to answer
Speaker 1: these two questions on this pot. So that was straight
Speaker 1: out of my brain. Oh, it's gone wild. I think
Speaker 1: we should make a ruin. He did tell me the Raiders,
Speaker 1: I think we should go with the rain yeah, and
Speaker 1: also said that's a bit of a lot of view. Wow,
Speaker 1: you know, I adore you, Sydney. I was just trying
Speaker 1: to keep the train rolling smoothly. I appreciate it. If
Speaker 1: this comes up again, just be like, Okay, he didn't
Speaker 1: have anything. Just this comes up in your year end review,
Speaker 1: your I do you like that? You just gave yourself
Speaker 1: a love reveal. She had to drop it. On her. Hey,
Speaker 1: she's a pro. Next up, this is the next communal question.
Speaker 1: Who gets the most guaranteed money? Uh? In free agency?
Speaker 1: And you know, and we talked about this downstairs. Guaranteed
Speaker 1: uh fully fully guaranteed, mostly guaranteed some blah blah blah. No,
Speaker 1: just guaranteed. That kind of leaves a little body knows
Speaker 1: what danger. So whatever is the general of you parantees
Speaker 1: will say good luck, but we'll cross that bridge the
Speaker 1: way it's reported anyway, Connor, who do you believe gets
Speaker 1: the most guaranteed money? Speicety Texans corner A J. Boyer
Speaker 1: the most guaranteed money? I mean, I think he's going
Speaker 1: to get a huge payday, but the most guaranteed money.
Speaker 1: I think there's not a logical candidate here. I mean
Speaker 1: Connor has been out on buoy A Corner for a while.
Speaker 1: It's been writing about him. I really struggled with this
Speaker 1: one this year, and I landed in the same place
Speaker 1: as Connor or right a joy, look at you guys.
Speaker 1: Feels good to be on team Westa. I feel right,
Speaker 1: this is it the first time it might be I
Speaker 1: was always very scared of less having a dissenting opinion
Speaker 1: of mine. So I feel the same way about you, Connor.
Speaker 1: This is a great team work, a total love fest.
Speaker 1: There might be new kissing cousins on the Round the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast, Get Well Soon, Mark Sessler. I will go
Speaker 1: with um and I'm not sure. I'll probably be wrong
Speaker 1: in this, but I went with the logic that, Uh,
Speaker 1: if it's a Patriot, a team wants to be associated
Speaker 1: with Patriots greatness. You want a game change your guy
Speaker 1: that can make plays, game changing plays in fact, Uh,
Speaker 1: donta high tower? Uh is my choice. I think he
Speaker 1: will get made huge money to become the centerpiece of
Speaker 1: some teams defense. Whether he's worth that as another uh discussion.
Speaker 1: But I throw a high tower out there. He'll get
Speaker 1: paid in a big way. Wow, it could happen. It
Speaker 1: shows how bad crappy all over here. I don't strongly
Speaker 1: about it. So no, I I honestly think it could.
Speaker 1: It shows how crazy this classes. There's no logical answer. Uh.
Speaker 1: Kevin Zeitler's adoption, Mike, I I threw this out to
Speaker 1: to Ian. Are you doing this thing where you mentioned
Speaker 1: like seven names? No, No, I'm not. That's when Greg
Speaker 1: and mits he cheats by getting no no. No. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking his advice. I don't like his answer,
Speaker 1: he thought, Mike Glennan, which seems insane, which seems wild guarantees,
Speaker 1: but he said, it sounds like no one is is
Speaker 1: fully getting just like a crazy deal. So I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of biting off my other one, but let's
Speaker 1: go Stephen Gilmore as number I say, Gilmore gets more
Speaker 1: than Buoyer. He's number one. Uh new money. Do we
Speaker 1: have one from Mark for this? Mark passes on this one? No,
Speaker 1: I have an answer from Mark on this. You're not
Speaker 1: allowed to pass. I have an answer from Mark, he
Speaker 1: texted me. Jimmy Garoppolo after a sign and trade gets
Speaker 1: the most guaranteed money. Okay, do we count that he's
Speaker 1: not a free agent. But I don't know. You guys
Speaker 1: that a lot of things you have to get right
Speaker 1: from Mark to collect on this As a it doesn't
Speaker 1: really work because I like then you could say Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins too. You could get an even bigger one. But
Speaker 1: because he's putting himself out there, I mean, this is
Speaker 1: an onion hanger. Ultimately, he needs a few things to
Speaker 1: happen to be right. I think he wants to get
Speaker 1: big onion plan because not only does he need that
Speaker 1: trade to happen, he needs, for instance, you know, Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins not to have to place a deadline. Tony Romo,
Speaker 1: who I didn't even think about. It's gotta be by
Speaker 1: the like the end of March. Garoppolo has to be traded, right, Oh,
Speaker 1: Tony Romo would have been good sneaky answer. No, no,
Speaker 1: Alshon Jeffrey answer, Now, that was I only stayed away
Speaker 1: because I thought, you guys, all right, let's move on now,
Speaker 1: and we'll go around now with our individual um propositions.
Speaker 1: And again let's start with Connor or now do you
Speaker 1: want all three of mine? Or do I go one
Speaker 1: by one, one by one, one by one, one by one?
Speaker 1: All right? My first one is that Mike Glennon, Okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead, classic um, Mike Glennon will not go to
Speaker 1: a team where he's uh entrenched as the day one starter. Okay.
Speaker 1: So it's similar to last year we had a similar
Speaker 1: prop that r G three would would not sign with
Speaker 1: the team that had an established starter. So you believe
Speaker 1: he will go to a team where he has a
Speaker 1: real opportunity to start or will be acknowledged he's compete.
Speaker 1: He's not he's not a true starter, so he will
Speaker 1: be competing. Yeah, alright, At some point the coach will
Speaker 1: come out and say, Mike Glennon has to compete for
Speaker 1: the starting job. Correct, but it but it has to
Speaker 1: be not a like, it can't be Mike Glennon versus
Speaker 1: I don't know, David fails or whatever. And they're like, well,
Speaker 1: that's an open competition. Everyone's gonna earn it, like if
Speaker 1: it's Glennon or Hoyer, Okay, I'll take you up on that.
Speaker 1: I will take you up on that. So just to
Speaker 1: be clear, So all right, say one more time, just
Speaker 1: one more time. So Mike Glennon will go to a
Speaker 1: team where at best he has to compete for the
Speaker 1: starting job. So there will be some right there to
Speaker 1: the place where he goes Connor and I remain simpatico
Speaker 1: on all things. I am not taking him up on
Speaker 1: this one. Uh yeah, I agree. That's that's that's probably
Speaker 1: how it plays out. I don't imagine. Yeah really yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of people would be very wrong about this
Speaker 1: bears thing. Then, so well, they could draft somebody at
Speaker 1: number three overall still or in the second round, and
Speaker 1: then you have to compete with the rookie. Um, it's
Speaker 1: only now that I'm realizing that Mark's in a tough
Speaker 1: spot because the way that you make sandwiches and stay
Speaker 1: in the plus category is you take people up on props.
Speaker 1: But if he's not there to take anybody up, I
Speaker 1: have a very very detailed list of what he will
Speaker 1: and will not take. Alright, so he takes this one,
Speaker 1: take this one under Wait, I'm just out of curiosity.
Speaker 1: How does it's just making this up to? What does
Speaker 1: it say? Like? What are you reading that? Lets you
Speaker 1: know that he would take this right? Ready for this? Uh,
Speaker 1: you can vote yes for me every time by proxy.
Speaker 1: I will accept every bet, going all in, no matter
Speaker 1: what the bet is, and take them up on it.
Speaker 1: So those are my very specific instruction. Do you are
Speaker 1: you going to go with your gut instinct on anything?
Speaker 1: It sounds like she just has to say yes every time.
Speaker 1: I tried going with my gut instinct the first time
Speaker 1: and Mark fired. So just so we know, Mark will
Speaker 1: take take up a sandwich prop on every single it
Speaker 1: would probably work out for him. Let's face it, that
Speaker 1: might inform my thinking. Okay, we couldn't manipulate the situation. Potentially,
Speaker 1: All right, West, you're up. The Saints do not get
Speaker 1: a standalone first round pick for Brandon Cooks. In other words,
Speaker 1: they would have to give something back in the trade
Speaker 1: if they're getting a first round pick, or they get
Speaker 1: a second round or lower, so will be like a
Speaker 1: one for one swap. It won't be Brandon Cooks for
Speaker 1: say the Titans number eight team pick. Well, the reports
Speaker 1: are at that they already turned down to one for
Speaker 1: one swap that involved the thirty second pick. Was not
Speaker 1: one for one, Oh, it wasn't would they would be
Speaker 1: sending one back. I think all the reports are are
Speaker 1: kind of picks for picks. So yeah, I'm not taking that.
Speaker 1: That seems that seems certainly less than fifty percent chance
Speaker 1: then that would happen. Well, I can restate it his
Speaker 1: his value will not be a first round pick. It
Speaker 1: will be less than a first round pick. No matter
Speaker 1: what else is sent back, there won't be a first
Speaker 1: round pick involved. No, I'm saying it won't be at
Speaker 1: the standard of a first round pick. It will be
Speaker 1: less than that, which means if cook goes, then something
Speaker 1: from the Saints is going back to the other teams. Which, yeah,
Speaker 1: so if if someone sent a first to this for
Speaker 1: cooks in a fifth, you know you would lose the
Speaker 1: wager and so would be kind easy to take your way.
Speaker 1: If someone sent the first and a fifth to the Saints,
Speaker 1: then you win. I'm not gonna take it. What about you, Connor,
Speaker 1: At the risk of disrupting my newfound relationship with Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: I also will not take it. Oh well, that just
Speaker 1: means we're in agreement. Yeah, West knows how to play
Speaker 1: the game. You just throw out, you know, Lily livered ones. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then that is that is an anti onion hanger there,
Speaker 1: but right, I am not Lily living in this game.
Speaker 1: That is an outrageous all right. Uh, let's move on
Speaker 1: now I does Mark take it? Mark takes everything? Mark,
Speaker 1: Mark will take it. Yes, this is fun. Here's mine. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna uh. I got Tony Romo going to the
Speaker 1: Broncos m I'll give you the field. Wow, I'll take
Speaker 1: the field all right? West got reeled them in for one,
Speaker 1: thanks Wes. Who else? Conner? What do you think give
Speaker 1: me the give me the Broncos baby, So that means
Speaker 1: you don't take the wager. You're with me. He's going
Speaker 1: to the Broncos. Well, this this puts me in a
Speaker 1: tough spot. You know, I'm not I'm not a religious guy.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not. I don't believe in that many things
Speaker 1: but for the theology. But I I believe in taking
Speaker 1: the field just as a principle when I'm going through life,
Speaker 1: take take the field, get past the emotions. So even
Speaker 1: though I think the Broncos are the most likely one,
Speaker 1: I'll take you up on that. Obviously, I'm not throwing
Speaker 1: it out there unless I feel very strongly about Roman
Speaker 1: or the Broncos, but both in other realms of props.
Speaker 1: We don't bet around here. Uh and this show with sandwiches,
Speaker 1: the field has been very plentiful, bountiful, a lot of
Speaker 1: harvest in the field. How say you, Mark? Take it? Uh? Okay, Greg,
Speaker 1: you're up. Well this is kind of I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's complicated. But the Bears we'll spend the most
Speaker 1: money in free agency, so you guys can have the
Speaker 1: field and the Bears will be this year's version of
Speaker 1: the Giants and spend the most amount of money. I'm
Speaker 1: taking the field at an onion hanging. I'm not saving
Speaker 1: him because I don't know what else I'm doing. We um,
Speaker 1: what was that by the way, that choo? That was
Speaker 1: the pickle? That was the pickle? Is it time? Wait?
Speaker 1: Is that the pickle? That that is the pickle? But
Speaker 1: the bananas behind the curtain? You know what? I think
Speaker 1: it's time to punish the miso phones out there at
Speaker 1: some point in the show and let them know. I
Speaker 1: will let you know listeners that it's coming at some
Speaker 1: point in the next fifteen to twenty minutes. What is
Speaker 1: the me so funny thing? You know? For new listeners
Speaker 1: that go back and listen to the show, have time
Speaker 1: to get into it. You're disturbed by sounds? Where are we? Where?
Speaker 1: Where were we? I got thrown up by the pickle?
Speaker 1: Spend the most money, Yeah, it's a it's a good one.
Speaker 1: I wonder if um because we kind of all whipped
Speaker 1: on Tony Romo most guaranteed money. I'm gonna take you
Speaker 1: on that the field has been good to us, plentiful,
Speaker 1: great harvest um. And I'm gonna even take a step
Speaker 1: further in my brain and say, the team that signs
Speaker 1: Romo gives them all that money, it's gonna make some
Speaker 1: other editions. And the way we go so Dan's taking it.
Speaker 1: I'm taking it. Connor, give me the field, baby, I'm
Speaker 1: taking it. Surprise Greg that you went with a that's
Speaker 1: we just talked about how you love the field, said,
Speaker 1: Mark takes it. All right, we all take it. That
Speaker 1: was good. I like that one. Great. That was a
Speaker 1: good onion all right. Next up, Connor, your next prop.
Speaker 1: How exciting. Darrell Rivas will sign a multi year contract
Speaker 1: in free agency. Ah, that's an onion hanger as well.
Speaker 1: That's excellent. Uh. Now for people that don't know Mark
Speaker 1: has sandwich props, Okay, we'll do. We'll get Mark next,
Speaker 1: We'll get Mark. Thank you. I'm sorry. Um. Dreau Rievas
Speaker 1: has that six million dollar um figure tied to the Jets,
Speaker 1: which means, uh, he does not have. He will make
Speaker 1: at least six million dollars in the NFL this year
Speaker 1: if he so chooses, because the Jets owe him that much.
Speaker 1: But if he signs a multi year deal, that would
Speaker 1: probably make sense that he would get more than six
Speaker 1: million guaranteed. But is anyone gonna give him a multi
Speaker 1: year deal? I have him going home to Pittsburgh or
Speaker 1: signing again with the Patriots. Those are my guesses and
Speaker 1: I am once again a complete lockstep with the great Connor.
Speaker 1: It's official, we got new kissing cousins. I think it's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those deals like he signed with
Speaker 1: the Patriots, where it could be that second year is
Speaker 1: just avoidable, soununding that recounting the pony second how to
Speaker 1: now be so phony second year? If it's a two
Speaker 1: year deal, it's a two year deal. That's why it's
Speaker 1: a it's a clever one. I guess it's not the
Speaker 1: slam Duncan. I thought it was. Greg. You've spent the
Speaker 1: last three weeks. I'm on the corner that he's gonna
Speaker 1: not play because no teams will want him. So I
Speaker 1: am taking Connor up. I believe Darrelle reeves his career
Speaker 1: is not over. And uh but you know what, I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna probably sign a one year deal all
Speaker 1: prove a deal is going to be his market. And
Speaker 1: he's a very smart, savvy businessman. He might think to himself,
Speaker 1: I'm going all in this offseason. I'm signing a one
Speaker 1: year deal, and then when I restake my claim as
Speaker 1: a strong corner in this league, I get another multi
Speaker 1: year deal next year. Oh, is he gonna work out
Speaker 1: this off. Yes, he's gonna he's gonna be serious about football.
Speaker 1: So I do not take you up on him, because
Speaker 1: I think he'll be back in the league, but only
Speaker 1: on a one year deal. Wait, you do take him
Speaker 1: up he said multi year. I don't think he signed
Speaker 1: a multi year deal. Oh yeah, I gonna take you. Know,
Speaker 1: this game confuses me. So if Greg and Danner in Mark,
Speaker 1: Mark takes it all right. I love this version of
Speaker 1: Mark Mark. I love is this our new podcast Sydney
Speaker 1: just speaking for Mark? All right, now, let's hear Mark's
Speaker 1: first prop. Okay, this is a big one. There will
Speaker 1: be no free agency period. I'm just kidding. That's not
Speaker 1: really There is a joke, so I thought it was
Speaker 1: funny money flying tonight. This is the real one. Terl
Speaker 1: Pryor has played his last game for the Cleveland Browns,
Speaker 1: who will be lamb basted by our podcast crew for
Speaker 1: losing a multi team bidding war for the freaky wide
Speaker 1: receiver they could have just franchised. Well, we just talked
Speaker 1: about that. I'm in complete agreement. Once you get to
Speaker 1: this point, he's gone, so I don't think there's much
Speaker 1: chance they're going to keep him. I'm not taking him
Speaker 1: up on that. Yeah, I think he's uh. I think
Speaker 1: he's played his last game with the Browns, and the
Speaker 1: Browns will be lambastard on this podcast if it happens, West,
Speaker 1: I am gonna go against the grain and say the
Speaker 1: Browns have a lot of money. He's invested in Hugh Jackson.
Speaker 1: He's gonna end up back in Cleveland. Okay, I'm invested
Speaker 1: in West Yawn. Hey, just say, you know, Connor West,
Speaker 1: I believe is in third place all time in the standings,
Speaker 1: so too. That's well, yeah, I'm just letting him know.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not familiar with the history of the game.
Speaker 1: I was in first place for the first few years
Speaker 1: of this game. Well it's you know, times have changed,
Speaker 1: was I just want Connor to know. All right, don't
Speaker 1: try don't try to come between me and Connor. I
Speaker 1: think for timing reasons, we only have time for one
Speaker 1: more each. By the way, uh so choose wisely here
Speaker 1: onion hanger. All right, West, let it rip my onion hanger.
Speaker 1: Calais Campbell will sign with the Denver Broncos. I don't
Speaker 1: Maybe you try these onions you'll like him, the real
Speaker 1: sweet onions. I love because yeah, there there was a
Speaker 1: report my cliffs, so it doesn't come out of nowhere,
Speaker 1: you know. Interested in Campbell, it'd be tough to maybe
Speaker 1: get Tony Romo, and it's kind of like a plan plany.
Speaker 1: It's tricky that the timing of Tony Romo makes the
Speaker 1: whole Romo sweepstakes complicated because he could take a while
Speaker 1: and team's gotta do what they're gonna do. I will
Speaker 1: take you up on that, but I don't feel great
Speaker 1: about it. Can't you see? That would just be a
Speaker 1: Broncos type of move. Wouldn't surprise me if West gets
Speaker 1: me on this one. But I'll take you he will
Speaker 1: not sign with the Broncos because I think they will.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a reason they had to let go
Speaker 1: Malik Jackson last year. They they had money tied up. Uh.
Speaker 1: And if they give Romo a big deal, which I
Speaker 1: really am, I'm pounding the table. If that's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: they won't have enough money for Glans so Connor, I'm
Speaker 1: taking the field as well. So your love affair with
Speaker 1: West only goes so far unrequ Perhaps coincidentally, immediately after
Speaker 1: I let you know what the standings were, honestly, still
Speaker 1: don't know how this works. I'm just going or the host. Um,
Speaker 1: And how about Mark Sessler, Marker, he's in a great
Speaker 1: spot here, he really is, because he's either gonna he's
Speaker 1: either gonna do better than ever and it's just a
Speaker 1: great story, or it's like there's no responsibility, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, it didn't work out, but it was fun.
Speaker 1: It was a great idea. Right do you think he's
Speaker 1: really not sick just figuring out this is the best
Speaker 1: way to play the game. All right, now, Mark made
Speaker 1: a This makes it easy for me. I have three.
Speaker 1: I'll eliminate my trell prior because I had and it
Speaker 1: was a little ununique because I had him signing a
Speaker 1: multi year deal with an a f C North team
Speaker 1: other than the Browns, but it is in the movie.
Speaker 1: I kind of con see him going to the Steelers
Speaker 1: and Ravens. But I'll move off that. And Uh, this
Speaker 1: one's a little more simple and it's not that exciting,
Speaker 1: but it's ununied because you almost always lose this prop
Speaker 1: almost always. Um, I have Brandon Marshall, uh staying in
Speaker 1: New York and going to the Giants as a free agent. Uh,
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to leave New York. He he he
Speaker 1: loves the market. He has a job in New York
Speaker 1: with an HBO or showtime. Uh. It's a fit for
Speaker 1: the Giants. Uh. He wants to be playing with an
Speaker 1: established quarterback and get to the playoffs and and the
Speaker 1: Giants make a lot of sense. Uh for Brandon Marshall.
Speaker 1: Marshall of the Giants, nobody else, who's got me? I'll
Speaker 1: take that he's watched the Eli Manning play. That's not
Speaker 1: gonna stop him in the super Bowl talking about Ryan
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick like he was Joe Namath. I mean, Eli looked
Speaker 1: great to him. That's a tough one. What do you say, Connor?
Speaker 1: I think the current edition of Joe Namath could throw
Speaker 1: further than Eli did in two things. Yeah, Brandon, Brandon
Speaker 1: Marshall's not going to the Giant. WHOA Do you have
Speaker 1: any former beat writer um pop there that you you've
Speaker 1: heard from people in the know. No, my head space
Speaker 1: is completely empty right now. From the Hip from the Hip,
Speaker 1: Straight from the Hip is my favorite. That should be
Speaker 1: your album title. I think the logic is there. I
Speaker 1: really don't think he's gonna want to leave, But can
Speaker 1: they really he would have to take a big pay cut.
Speaker 1: I will take you up on that and say he
Speaker 1: goes elsewhere. I think he's he'll take he'll yeah my haircut.
Speaker 1: Because this guy is desperate to play a playoff game.
Speaker 1: It's it's an embarrassment for him. I think that he's
Speaker 1: never been in the playoffs and the Giants are locked.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's good for his TV career. But maybe
Speaker 1: you could go to Baltimore and still make it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he think I used to picking up scraps in an offense.
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepard and Odell Beckham already there and New and
Speaker 1: New England, and he's been tied to New England a
Speaker 1: little bit. I've heard some report and I got some
Speaker 1: tweets like, oh how about this. I don't care. It's
Speaker 1: not like Brandon Marshall and I had a love a
Speaker 1: love affair. But I don't think that would be the
Speaker 1: good fit for him. I think the Giants make a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. We'll see what happens, all right, Greg,
Speaker 1: I already did my onion hanger. Well, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: back to something because because I know I can reel
Speaker 1: you guys in, and I believe it. This was on
Speaker 1: my list, Stephan gilmour gets more than a J Boyer
Speaker 1: guaranteed money just straight up cornerback on. Yeah, well, I
Speaker 1: was surprised. I didn't have an answer for the guaranteed
Speaker 1: money things. I just threw them in there. Hmm. I
Speaker 1: don't like this. It's got better energy. It's got a
Speaker 1: bad energy around it, bad mojo. Yeah, it's got Why
Speaker 1: are you double double dipping on Stephon gilmour d was
Speaker 1: on my list, It's on my little list. What's this
Speaker 1: upset with you? Yeah? This is your last I promise you.
Speaker 1: I have no I have no going out that he's
Speaker 1: playing the game going out on extraneous extraneous How is
Speaker 1: it extraneous because you've already said it all? Um, you
Speaker 1: know we talked, we talked about this last week, that
Speaker 1: Gilmore was a prime guy to potentially get overpaid because
Speaker 1: of the name brand value. And yes, I think he'll
Speaker 1: get more guaranteed money than a J. I guess I'm
Speaker 1: partly just not buying into that Booyer is gonna get
Speaker 1: top of and and money. If I could do it again,
Speaker 1: maybe I would have thrown in Jeffrey for the first answer,
Speaker 1: just to not step on this particular one west, but
Speaker 1: who cares? So I agree with you. You said gilmore
Speaker 1: more than yes, I'll take you on that one since
Speaker 1: I already said, okay, how about Connor? It nice? Like
Speaker 1: it about Mark Sessler. Mark Sesslor's gonna take it. It
Speaker 1: was really funny if you just went around the room
Speaker 1: three times with the safest ones ever, make that Mark
Speaker 1: takes it. It's like the Browns will continue to play
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Mark takes um all right, and finally will
Speaker 1: end it with Sydney Um the final sandwich prop um
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler via satellite, the satellite of Sydney. Any flurry
Speaker 1: of high octing trade action, at least first round picks
Speaker 1: will change hands between the start of free agency and
Speaker 1: the draft before the draft starts, so this one will
Speaker 1: not be decided till late April. Can you run that
Speaker 1: back because we're gonna do like a recap before that.
Speaker 1: Does he have something else? Does he have another question?
Speaker 1: More immediate? He does, but it's a little similar. Do
Speaker 1: you want to hear the other one? Just? Is it
Speaker 1: something that will know by next week or something possibly?
Speaker 1: What do you guys want to do? We just want
Speaker 1: to roll this one, or let's hear it, all right?
Speaker 1: What else you got? Okay? Uh? The following players will
Speaker 1: change teams but stay in their current divisions, all right,
Speaker 1: I like this one better all of them, all of them.
Speaker 1: There's three of them. I'll take it. Carrel Prior, Kevin Zeitler, Zeitler,
Speaker 1: Zeitler Zeitler, and Dante High Tower. All three, all three
Speaker 1: will change teams. But that's an Bury, the lead there
Speaker 1: said prior to Zeitler High Tower. This one was his
Speaker 1: Onion Hanger third, the one that I read first in
Speaker 1: capital letters, says onion Hanger. I was just you know
Speaker 1: this one fo, Yeah, this one's this one is more
Speaker 1: suitable for how we play the game, though. All right,
Speaker 1: let's roll with it. I'll take it. I mean it's
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty straightforward to me. It's very hard to
Speaker 1: get one player right where the division land. You're asking
Speaker 1: for three players to change teams but stay in their division.
Speaker 1: It's virtually impossible to get this right. So I'll take
Speaker 1: I'll take it. I am taking it with Gusto. With Gusto, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm taking this. Connor, I agree with Mark. Let's do it, baby,
Speaker 1: Well that was that. Actually, you did your buddy a
Speaker 1: solid because that saves Mark a loss in the standing. So, um, Connor,
Speaker 1: you have a very vague idea how the game works,
Speaker 1: but you were you were a great um A trooper
Speaker 1: and we loved having you on our latest edition of
Speaker 1: Go Get Lunch you something or other and and why
Speaker 1: not just for you miss phones out there? Yeah, don't
Speaker 1: you cross mean that over the line? Yeah, I mean yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to have mes ponia to
Speaker 1: consider that distasteful and it's not enjoyable. And if you
Speaker 1: come at me again last, what do you get next?
Speaker 1: They don't want it? So what Literally one person tweets
Speaker 1: at me, upset about the banana. We go def co
Speaker 1: on Orange next week. All right, glad we settled that, Connor,
Speaker 1: thank you, no problem, fellas, take it easy. I love Connor.
Speaker 1: Or Uh, we'll see how Connor does in his first
Speaker 1: voyage of Go Get My Lunch and that that does
Speaker 1: a supersized edition to you around the NFL podcast wraps up.
Speaker 1: We are back, like we said, and we promised. We're
Speaker 1: back on Wednesday. Uh, three shows this week and three
Speaker 1: shows for the foreseeable future. Put it that way, so
Speaker 1: get excited. Little different taping schedule though, this week. Very good.
Speaker 1: We'll be doing a show Wednesday. We will tape a
Speaker 1: show Friday morning uh and get it up there uh
Speaker 1: Friday midday Pacific time or a little bit after. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna make sure we get as much uh knowledge
Speaker 1: of how free Agency shakes out. As we said, it
Speaker 1: starts officially uh four pm Eastern on Thursday, so we'll
Speaker 1: make sure our Friday show will be up to the
Speaker 1: minute in terms of covering everything it happens on Thursday.
Speaker 1: That's how we roll. Be a fun week. Let's roll
Speaker 1: out of here. This is Dan hands is signing off
Speaker 1: for the Mailman, the Boss, the Sizzler and Absentia Connor
Speaker 1: Or and of course Land Zeerling and so Wednesday