Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is binge watching Scorpion this weekend.
Speaker 1: We welcome back to another edition of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Kansas, and I am
Speaker 1: joined by a room feld with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris
Speaker 1: Westling and Greg Rosatal. What's up boys? Hey? Dan? Uh?
Speaker 1: That reminds me I did promise back in January or
Speaker 1: December that I would binge watch Scorpion and I cannot
Speaker 1: lie to the audience or not keep a promise. The
Speaker 1: CBS perfect the audience, West I mean Greg, everyone knows
Speaker 1: what scorpias. It is one of the top rated hour
Speaker 1: long dramas and the only place where you could have
Speaker 1: a commercial like this. What's harder than preventing a nuclear disaster?
Speaker 1: Conventing a nuclear disaster? Thank you for coming with your mother,
Speaker 1: So I will. I have to find it? Is it streaming?
Speaker 1: Let me let's look at this. How have you held
Speaker 1: yourself back from I'm completing every admission between the end
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl? Now, how uh you guys, you know,
Speaker 1: talk amongst yourselves until I find out a Scorpion is streaming?
Speaker 1: The whole show has stopped for this B minus looks
Speaker 1: like a CBS program h B Plus probably maybe probably.
Speaker 1: It looks like season one is on Amazon dot Com.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look into it because it's time. I made
Speaker 1: my promise. I will be watching Scorpion. Uh for all
Speaker 1: it's glory. Um, hey doing guys, and we're just picking
Speaker 1: up the pieces from what just happened. I don't know what.
Speaker 1: I once tried to explain the whole Scorpion bit to
Speaker 1: my to my wife. Good luck with that, k Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a little hard to really get into. Uh.
Speaker 1: We had lunch today with the gold Standard. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, behind the glasses this make you a little
Speaker 1: nervous or upset it all? Just even hear me make
Speaker 1: that statement. Listen. He came in and he was just
Speaker 1: the friendliest dude I've ever met. So true the new
Speaker 1: money and gold Standard would get along gold standard for
Speaker 1: the of the people. I'm not sure our former great
Speaker 1: producer out there, Yeah, a great producer and a great
Speaker 1: man who's uh is doing it in the world, has
Speaker 1: spent some time in England. Now he's back in the US.
Speaker 1: So we had a nice lunch with a gold standard.
Speaker 1: Always good to see him. This is the Thursday edition
Speaker 1: of The Round. The NFL podcast, sponsored as always by
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Speaker 1: show today, gentlemen, we are going to talk QB carousel.
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler wrote a banger because you know, I don't
Speaker 1: know if anybody's noticed. The last few shows we you know,
Speaker 1: talked a little bitbout west Is, some of his West's stuff,
Speaker 1: talk some of Greg stuff, and you know Mark, Mark
Speaker 1: was over there probably thinking to himself, when do I
Speaker 1: get my stuff talked about on the podcast today? My friend,
Speaker 1: Today we'll talk about your banger. And the true shame
Speaker 1: is it's not even that original, uh of a departure
Speaker 1: from what we talked about on the last show when
Speaker 1: we talked about where Romo would land up. I just expend,
Speaker 1: just took it out to other quarterbacks. Beat it's February
Speaker 1: twenty something. Of your of your This one involves Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins and some other guys the good. So we'll go
Speaker 1: through the carousel. Also, we will be opening up the
Speaker 1: mail bag. We love to open up the mail bag
Speaker 1: because that allows us to connect with our listeners all
Speaker 1: over Memories firm. Yes, it does less of former US
Speaker 1: postal worker and that might come up. That's that's that's
Speaker 1: called the ts in the business. He worked for the U. S. Mails.
Speaker 1: That's what they used to That's a strip club associated
Speaker 1: with called the U. S. Mails. Back in the old day,
Speaker 1: nobody at the Covington, Kentucky Post Office called it the U. S. Mails.
Speaker 1: My father who were like subgrade chipping dales. The U.
Speaker 1: S Mails. That is what nobody wants to see a
Speaker 1: mailman naked. Just don't google that whatever you do. Not
Speaker 1: where I was going there, but no circumstances. Uh. And also,
Speaker 1: of course we'll go through what's going on in the news,
Speaker 1: and before we do that, we will formally say hello
Speaker 1: to the verset lady over there on the NFL podcast.
Speaker 1: She is new money. Hey guys, what's up? Oh? Not much,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just chilling back here having a great time.
Speaker 1: You played the Sleeping Beauty drop, and um, listen, I didn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't familiar to me. I still want to. I
Speaker 1: want to play like a more famous Disney jingle when
Speaker 1: we introduced last said, but we need to get a
Speaker 1: shadowy league figure on our side about this. But I'm
Speaker 1: not sure which one to approach. I think I know
Speaker 1: who the person is so we're gonna work on that
Speaker 1: because I think you need a more recognizable Disney jingle
Speaker 1: when we introduce you, all right, you deserve it, all right, gentlemen.
Speaker 1: So that's todays show. Let's do some news while are
Speaker 1: you smiling? Because I love football, sir. Let's start in
Speaker 1: Minnesota where Teddy Bridgewater uh suffered that catastrophic knee injury
Speaker 1: uh last summer, one of the strangest injuries in all
Speaker 1: my years following football. UM. He planted his leg in
Speaker 1: a in a practice and the knee just went a
Speaker 1: major injury and the the hope at the time was
Speaker 1: that he'd be ready for this upcoming season after missing
Speaker 1: the twenty sixteen season, which of course led to the
Speaker 1: Vikings trading for Sam Bradford. But it still sounds like
Speaker 1: he is far from out of the woods Teddy Bridgewater.
Speaker 1: On Thursday, General manager Rick Spielman declined to say with
Speaker 1: certainty that Bridgewater will ever play again. According to USA
Speaker 1: Today's Tom Placero, Spielman said everybody's hoping. The GM added
Speaker 1: the Bridgewater still not doing any football activities. UH. Twenty
Speaker 1: four years old. He dislocated the knee and tours a
Speaker 1: c l in a practice last September. Um a sad story,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, and you hope you see him again. But
Speaker 1: uh as star as the Vikings are concerned again, the
Speaker 1: trade for Sam Bradford is looking even better now because
Speaker 1: there's a very good chance he's going to be your
Speaker 1: quarterback in two thousands seventeen as well. It seems. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when the trade for Bradford went down, I remember being
Speaker 1: in the office that day and it was a weekend
Speaker 1: day and there were not a lot of people around,
Speaker 1: and my initial thought was, well, this probably the Mike
Speaker 1: zimmer A. You don't have a lot of years to
Speaker 1: prove that you're the guy for the job, and you
Speaker 1: and you have a good team here, and we thought
Speaker 1: that Vikings team coming off a playoff appearance, could go
Speaker 1: right back again. That it was a move that said
Speaker 1: we're not giving up on the season. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: the best quarterback available. It's not the best quarterback in
Speaker 1: the league, but it's Sam Bradford. But now it does
Speaker 1: look like a truly smart employ on their part because
Speaker 1: they maybe they knew at that point, maybe not three
Speaker 1: they do. They must have known that there's no reason
Speaker 1: to believe that Teddy Bridgewater is gonna come back a
Speaker 1: late season obviously, but maybe even not for the beginning
Speaker 1: of next season. And now it looks like we don't
Speaker 1: know what the future. Well, I think they just don't
Speaker 1: have any idea, and I think they knew when the
Speaker 1: injury happened that they could be a multi year process
Speaker 1: and we just don't know. Mike Florio, um my old
Speaker 1: boss at PFD, who's usually pretty tied in with the
Speaker 1: vicant he said, even the speculation saying likely not likely,
Speaker 1: is almost off base because it's not like Teddy Bridgewater's
Speaker 1: doctors know where he's gonna be at. He's still relatively
Speaker 1: early in this process, which says which says a lot.
Speaker 1: You don't have football injuries like this where six seven
Speaker 1: months after it you're still early in the process. When
Speaker 1: it happened, it was described as a torn a c L,
Speaker 1: dislocated knee and other structural damage. The way it was described,
Speaker 1: I thought immediately, this is probably worse than Marcus Lattimore,
Speaker 1: worse than Willis mcgahey, And immediately people were saying he
Speaker 1: might not ever play football again. And on top of it,
Speaker 1: so much changes with any football team over two seasons
Speaker 1: that if he gets healthy, there's no guarantee that when
Speaker 1: he comes back he's the starter for this team on
Speaker 1: any level. Well, right, I mean Sam Bradford could either
Speaker 1: be great this year and lead them to the playoffs,
Speaker 1: or they could be six and ten and have a
Speaker 1: different person picking players. A lot of people think this
Speaker 1: is kind of a Boomer bust, do or die year
Speaker 1: for Rick Spielman, their general manager has been there for
Speaker 1: a long time. Moving on to other quarterback talk in
Speaker 1: the NFC North, soon to be former NFC North quarterback
Speaker 1: j Cutler UH is currently UH Chicago Bear, but there
Speaker 1: is the strong belief that he will either be traded
Speaker 1: or released in the coming weeks, and NFL media insider
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport reported on Wednesday's edition of NFL Total Access
Speaker 1: on NFL Network that Cutler is still considering whether even
Speaker 1: wants to play or retire and just walk away age
Speaker 1: thirty four. Of course, Chris Wessling, who wrote the piece
Speaker 1: up on NFL dot com, uh, this seems like a
Speaker 1: very transparent move by Cutler to torpedo whatever trade value
Speaker 1: he has, which can't be much, and get into free
Speaker 1: agency where he could maybe pick his own team. Is
Speaker 1: that how you're reading it as well. I that never
Speaker 1: occurred to me, honestly. This happened on Total Access yesterday,
Speaker 1: a little peek behind the curtain. Credit to Dan Helly,
Speaker 1: who immediately stopped Ian Rappaport and said, you're burying the
Speaker 1: lead because this was way down on the list of
Speaker 1: items about Jay Cutler that Ian Rappaport had. And I
Speaker 1: texted Ian because I the way he brought it up.
Speaker 1: I thought Ian didn't want it to be written about.
Speaker 1: It was kind of a minor thing. But he said,
Speaker 1: this is just the fact of reality in the NFL
Speaker 1: now and the modern NFL, where these guys make that
Speaker 1: much money. You get to your mid thirties and you're
Speaker 1: taking everything is year to year. You're evaluating whether your
Speaker 1: situation is what you want. If you're Jay Cutler and
Speaker 1: you get very little guaranteed money, you have to compete
Speaker 1: for a starting job in a team that's going nowhere,
Speaker 1: is that going to keep you from retirement when you've
Speaker 1: already made a hundred million dollars. I don't know, like,
Speaker 1: what's his motivation? I think the real story maybe we're
Speaker 1: burying the lead a little bit. Here is uh the
Speaker 1: headline on the end Around today and owed to Jay Cutler.
Speaker 1: And what I'm really seeing as the big story is
Speaker 1: Dan hansis starting to convince himself that maybe Jay Cutler
Speaker 1: is a good option for the Jets. Here's the start
Speaker 1: of his third paragraph from Dan, I've always strangely admired
Speaker 1: Cutler's brand of give let's just call it djah. He
Speaker 1: never seemed particularly interest you're you're getting. I kind of
Speaker 1: like j Cler. I'm not saying that he and this
Speaker 1: is kind of like the West Greg beat, because you
Speaker 1: guys always fight about Jay Cutler, but I've always found
Speaker 1: it to be an entertaining character. Uh Chac. Back in
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve, I wrote it. I looked it up
Speaker 1: when I was writing that column, which you should check
Speaker 1: out at NFL dot com slash end Around um that
Speaker 1: I wrote that he was the NFL's greatest villain because
Speaker 1: there was a time where he could actually really play
Speaker 1: and he you know, his attitude and the way he
Speaker 1: kind of would, you know, mess with Mike Tyson on
Speaker 1: the sideline and just not care about anything and still perform.
Speaker 1: I don't think he can really perform. And it's very
Speaker 1: important to note that he's coming off a torn laboram
Speaker 1: and his arm is his best characteristics. So if you
Speaker 1: if he doesn't have a strong arm. I don't want
Speaker 1: anything to do with Jay Cutler, But in a rebuilding
Speaker 1: year for the Jets where they really just need somebody
Speaker 1: to play quarterback, if I can have a year a
Speaker 1: year of fun with Jay Cutler where he makes some
Speaker 1: plays or is a total disaster and the Jets are
Speaker 1: behind the steams doing the right things to build for
Speaker 1: the future, I need somebody to play. Do it what
Speaker 1: I'd rather have? Jay Cutler or Josh McCown or Brian Hoyer.
Speaker 1: Give me Cutler. Let's have some fun here, and you
Speaker 1: you may get your wish because it sounds like the
Speaker 1: of all the teams out. So the Jets are the one. Hey,
Speaker 1: they they desperately need something at quarterback. They have interest
Speaker 1: and if you have the right attitude, if you're looking
Speaker 1: at Jake Cutler and you're trying to tell your friends
Speaker 1: and neighbors, hey, this guy is gonna push the Jets
Speaker 1: over the top, lookout in England, Patriots, that is going
Speaker 1: to be a disastrous, uh open Cutler situation. I think
Speaker 1: they're more open than they were with Ryan Fitzpatrick, and
Speaker 1: I would think he's an upgrade over Ryan Fitzpatrick. Frankly,
Speaker 1: I think the Jets are really the only team that
Speaker 1: makes sense because he has burned so many bridges, not
Speaker 1: just of teammates, but with coach, former coaches, and the
Speaker 1: new Jets quarterbacks coaches Jeremy Bates, who had him in
Speaker 1: Denver and Chicago as quarterbacks coach, and by all the
Speaker 1: couns to two of him get along great. And Bates
Speaker 1: is a big Cutler fan. I think there's a couple
Speaker 1: of places. It all depends. You know, we'll talk to
Speaker 1: Carousel later, but just specifically for Cutler. You know, Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan if if he if he can't find what he
Speaker 1: wants in free agency or something, could he go with
Speaker 1: Cutler in a rookie His dad draft is dad's drafted
Speaker 1: free agent? Carousel, Well, it's the Cutler part. I don't
Speaker 1: want to step on Mark. Let's wait. Don't you think
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is trying to institute a culture in San Francisco?
Speaker 1: The last guy you want instituting the culture is Jake
Speaker 1: You you made fun of me for throwing out the
Speaker 1: possibility just that Folds would would have a chance. I'm
Speaker 1: not stumping for West did and I I that's you
Speaker 1: framing the question. I really did. My point is I
Speaker 1: really think will put the energy out there that Folds
Speaker 1: could be a started quarterback. I really think Cutler will
Speaker 1: be starting. So one of the one of these these
Speaker 1: carousel spots is gonna stop and Cutlers again. Josh McCown,
Speaker 1: we wrote about this on a t N today, told
Speaker 1: um a reporter recently that four or five teams, according him,
Speaker 1: so many teams are John blay Down that he so
Speaker 1: many teams according he can't even keep counting. Well, j
Speaker 1: Cutler is going to have a market as well. There
Speaker 1: is one big difference between McCown and Cutler, and it
Speaker 1: is how they are viewed within the within their own
Speaker 1: locker room. I think McCown has been a pristine teammate.
Speaker 1: He may be done on the field very soon, but
Speaker 1: people want my count around for more than just his
Speaker 1: playing ability. Cutler is going to have to probably convince
Speaker 1: teams other than the Jets that he still wants to
Speaker 1: play football. There's have to convince the Jets to the
Speaker 1: Jets may say, listen, we don't need a little bit
Speaker 1: of credit. Jets can say, well, have that conversation later.
Speaker 1: Do you want me on your corner because of the Jets,
Speaker 1: don't even would want to play. I'll probably He's also
Speaker 1: five years younger and and has started a hunter in
Speaker 1: thirty games at if he if he thinks that Jay Cutler,
Speaker 1: what do you say? I don't want him into whatever?
Speaker 1: You love Cutler, You've always loved I've always held out
Speaker 1: hope he could turn it around at this point. You
Speaker 1: know it's looking pretty dim early thirties. Why not? Now
Speaker 1: we need Bruce arians to save him next year? Moving
Speaker 1: on a little bit of tackle talk. Tackle talk, Russell
Speaker 1: Okung is not going to be on the Denver Broncos
Speaker 1: next season. The team declined to pick up his option. Uh.
Speaker 1: That initial deal that he um framed himself with the
Speaker 1: Broncos because he was his own agent, UH, turned out
Speaker 1: to be essentially a one year, five million dollar deal
Speaker 1: with an option for a four year, forty eight million
Speaker 1: dollar agreement. This is the case against being your own agent,
Speaker 1: by the way, because nobody would really agree to that,
Speaker 1: uh if you had a functional agent on your side. Uh. So,
Speaker 1: now Russell Kong is going to be on the marketing
Speaker 1: and Greg what are your thoughts on this and where
Speaker 1: does he fit in into the big old top ninety
Speaker 1: don't we us finished our top ninety nine free agents? Oh, Kung,
Speaker 1: We're not sure about because we gotta add him to
Speaker 1: the mix. But he'll be in there in the middle.
Speaker 1: The tackle group is terrible. I could see him returning
Speaker 1: to Seattle. He'd be in my top five tackles available.
Speaker 1: I mean, he played last two years healthy enough, not
Speaker 1: particularly well, but he's a starting left tackle in the NFL,
Speaker 1: which means he'll get paid by someone. I don't get this.
Speaker 1: It seems to me like writers are in bed with
Speaker 1: agents when everybody's waiting to pounce on Russell Okung. He's
Speaker 1: not the first player to be cut after one year,
Speaker 1: whether he signed his own contractor an agent helped him.
Speaker 1: This happens to players all the time. But you can
Speaker 1: use at his age, you can usually probably get some
Speaker 1: guarantees into the second year he made, and he wasn't
Speaker 1: at the top of his game. He was signed to
Speaker 1: be the starting left tackle the defending Super Bowl champion,
Speaker 1: and he made eight million dollars on one year. That's
Speaker 1: not good money. Good eight million dollars for what the
Speaker 1: leverage he had going into free agency, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't think he signed a good deal. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he had a ton of leverage. He was
Speaker 1: an injury prone guy, and that Denver line is so
Speaker 1: depleted at this point I would I'd put a sandwich
Speaker 1: right now that they draft at least three offensive linemen
Speaker 1: because the what's out there in free agency. There's good
Speaker 1: guards out there, but if you're looking for tackles, it's
Speaker 1: not a great free agency class. Three or more. How
Speaker 1: many draft picks there I might take up on this,
Speaker 1: let's take me up. I mean, you know what, You've
Speaker 1: been betting sandwiches all season. Nobody's paid up, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna just keep betting them. I don't care. At this point.
Speaker 1: You actually make a good point because the game loses
Speaker 1: all value if we're not paying off the sandwich. So
Speaker 1: I think it doesn't pay up. It begins now we
Speaker 1: have to start, and that's bad news for you. Maybe
Speaker 1: you should have brought it up, Mark, because you lose
Speaker 1: the most out. Who picked over two picked Super Bowl
Speaker 1: going into overtime? Was it you? Was it West or Greg?
Speaker 1: Was it new money? And I certainly wasn't new money
Speaker 1: wasn't even there. The West was undefeated in his UH
Speaker 1: Super Bowl predictions on our Thursday podcast before the Big Game.
Speaker 1: Other offensive tackle news, Jason Peters will stay with the
Speaker 1: Eagles in seventeen UH Ian Rappaport reported Thursday that despite
Speaker 1: speculation Eagles could move on, he'll be back with the team.
Speaker 1: He set to make nine and a half base salary,
Speaker 1: and his workout bonuses bumped that number too close to
Speaker 1: eleven million dollars. UH thirty five years old. I used
Speaker 1: to be, you know, in any conversation of the top
Speaker 1: blindside guys in the league. But time and injuries have
Speaker 1: taken a toll, but not enough for the Eagles to
Speaker 1: divorce themselves. It's it's just a quick show of what
Speaker 1: Mark just said. There aren't tackles available on in free agency.
Speaker 1: It's supposed to be a bad tackle class in the
Speaker 1: draft according to Daniel Jeremiah and move the sticks. So
Speaker 1: this is like they asked Jason Peters to take a
Speaker 1: pay gun, he was like no, and then they just
Speaker 1: kept him. So that the nice job. By the way,
Speaker 1: just one thing. DJ moved the sticks. Heard about some
Speaker 1: shade being thrown our way on your show. You're punching up,
Speaker 1: punching up at the big leagues, and what context? What
Speaker 1: was the shade it's called this a toaster podcast. I
Speaker 1: think was the exact words. Pretty funny, you're coming out,
Speaker 1: you're coming out the big chairs. Just you know, pipe
Speaker 1: down a little bit. I would just say, if you're
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Wait, was that me or was that the announcer?
Speaker 1: I have no idea that. Let me let me go
Speaker 1: full Frances, Hey, Danny, why don't you go get the
Speaker 1: ratings book and and and tell us what you think
Speaker 1: about the toaster show. Alright, go ahead. I don't even
Speaker 1: remember what my point and I think it's this. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got Carson Wentz and we can say that Jason
Speaker 1: Peters is declining. He was still if you would care
Speaker 1: about what PFF says. I think it was the eighth
Speaker 1: rated tackle last year. And you can't go replace that
Speaker 1: position necessary if you let him go. It's the wrong
Speaker 1: time to suddenly have a major issue at left tackle.
Speaker 1: Anything else, guys, that's it for tackle talk. Finally, triplet triplet,
Speaker 1: triplet triplet. The offseason pool party continues. One of the
Speaker 1: more popular hopes of the off season, player X making
Speaker 1: strides and rehab program. Uh. This time we have Eddie
Speaker 1: Lacey who posted video on his Twitter feed, Uh, running
Speaker 1: in a pool at the University of Alabama is alma mater. Uh.
Speaker 1: That is one of the great tropes. This is about
Speaker 1: a month after we saw David Johnson recovering from a
Speaker 1: knee injury jump out of a pool. Uh. Eddie Lacy
Speaker 1: recovering from ankle surgery that wiped out his twenties sixteen
Speaker 1: season after about six or seven games. So Eddie Lacy
Speaker 1: on his way back and also um back on the
Speaker 1: fitness on a fitness kick. And you know, conditioning has
Speaker 1: been an issue with Lacey. Last year it was P
Speaker 1: ninety X with Tony Horton, which Mark I know you
Speaker 1: followed very closely. Yeah, but Lacy apparently has dropped Norton
Speaker 1: in favor of a man or woman Autumn Calabresi. It
Speaker 1: is a woman are named or Autumn by the way,
Speaker 1: a like, why would Autumn have to be a woman's name?
Speaker 1: That's my guy seems certainly like are we overdo for
Speaker 1: a man named That's a different conversation. Maybe, So there
Speaker 1: you go. Autumn Calibra. Well, by the way, they well
Speaker 1: they all work for the same company, so's I don't
Speaker 1: think it's dropping Tony Horton, but they're all with the
Speaker 1: Beach Body group. Conrore that she does a program called
Speaker 1: twenty one Day Fixed and Conroor did it before he
Speaker 1: had his wedding, which was last year at some point,
Speaker 1: and shed like, I think it's something like twenty pounds
Speaker 1: and I'm doing it currently and it is autumn. Calibras
Speaker 1: is a great teacher. I can see why Eddie Lacey.
Speaker 1: I understand he's the butt of jokes because it's oh
Speaker 1: football player wants to work out and get better in
Speaker 1: the off season, that wants let's start taking the guy
Speaker 1: to town. But I mean, I think he's trying. I
Speaker 1: like that even you even know the the sub corporate
Speaker 1: group that is part of Barry Plugged in Calibration. It's true.
Speaker 1: We we've heard a lot about this program. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think you've talked about the program as much as
Speaker 1: you've done the Barry into it. Listen, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I think Connor and I are were on this.
Speaker 1: We're on this track and we're not going to give up.
Speaker 1: How twelve days are you ready to hit the beach?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't typically hit the beach in general,
Speaker 1: but I mean, why not. I'll be I will be soon,
Speaker 1: all right, talk to me in nine days. Let's track.
Speaker 1: Can you do a pod shirtless at the end of
Speaker 1: the twenty one day That would help absolutely no one
Speaker 1: in this room or outside. If you've a beach body,
Speaker 1: is that the name of the program is that? The
Speaker 1: name isn't the beach body is? And that's the like
Speaker 1: the corporate that's the corporate name. Yes, I don't think
Speaker 1: I'm twelve days. I'm not nine days away from what
Speaker 1: they're claiming. You could get to quite a bit away
Speaker 1: from that. You look good, They're real good. Thanks Greg.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the news, all right. So it's
Speaker 1: time everybody to hop aboard. It's a little run stee.
Speaker 1: Watch out for the tetanus the QB carousel. Alright. So
Speaker 1: Mark Sesler wrote a banger um and, as Mark puts
Speaker 1: it in the lead of his post, offs, off seasons
Speaker 1: are shaped by quarterback movement, and this season will be
Speaker 1: a very interesting off season because there are so many uh,
Speaker 1: you know, name brands. I'll call them. They're not necessarily stars,
Speaker 1: but names that are recognizable players like Tony Romo, Kirk Cousin,
Speaker 1: ty Rod Taylor, Jimmy Garoppolo, those type of names. So
Speaker 1: what the Carousel aims to do, Mark Sesler is what
Speaker 1: well I wrote it as. If you get off the carousel,
Speaker 1: then you're you can't go to three different teams. If
Speaker 1: you get off the carousel and you land in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: we're not going to project someone else to San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Is a domino game, a little bit of a domino
Speaker 1: type thing, but there's some also some bizarre non attached
Speaker 1: dominoes at the bottom, So that didn't quite fit. So
Speaker 1: I went with carousel. Did you did you ever think
Speaker 1: maybe instead of carousel, go with the QB domino effect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like again that some of the some of the
Speaker 1: characters at the end are not attached to anything of me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: It's like it would have been like if you have
Speaker 1: the dominotiest, it wouldn't have been knocked down. So a
Speaker 1: thought about it went against it. All right, very good.
Speaker 1: So Mark's pace breaks it into subdivisions, uh, and the
Speaker 1: first division is Headliners and Kirk Cousins. I think West
Speaker 1: might be on the same page as me, and this
Speaker 1: I still struggle to imagine Kirk Cousins being anywhere but Washington,
Speaker 1: But there continues to be people who believe he will
Speaker 1: be playing elsewhere, and Mark, you're one of them, because
Speaker 1: when Kirk Cousins steps off that carousel, it will be
Speaker 1: in Santa Clara, California, the home of the forty Niners. WHOA, yeah,
Speaker 1: I do. I just think that the kind of the
Speaker 1: heat around this is growing, and I think we'll know.
Speaker 1: You know, initially this was supposed to come out next
Speaker 1: week during the Combine, and I thought, we gotta get
Speaker 1: this thing up sooner because it's going to be completely
Speaker 1: this will be completely irrelevant by then, as the whispers
Speaker 1: and things start picking up, and I think a lot
Speaker 1: could happen at the Combine and around whether if the
Speaker 1: forty Niners are serious about Cousins. Will know a lot
Speaker 1: more a week from now than we do today. What
Speaker 1: kind of heat are we talking about? What are we
Speaker 1: hearing they look to trade for him, that the Redskins
Speaker 1: would franchise him, and then they can organize a trade.
Speaker 1: And it's not just us, it's you know that you're
Speaker 1: not gonna like this at all, But Daniel Jeremiah that's
Speaker 1: that's where this all started, Jeremiah, And he's not coming
Speaker 1: up out of a thin area. He's talking to people
Speaker 1: and he's hearing this well. He said he would not
Speaker 1: be shocked if the Redskins and forty Niners did a trade,
Speaker 1: and he's he thinks there's a better than fifty percent
Speaker 1: chance Cousins isn't a Redskin in two thousand seventeen. I
Speaker 1: think logically that seems right. He's saying this year, there's
Speaker 1: a better than fifty percent chance. That's that seems aggressive
Speaker 1: because I don't think the Red we talked about it
Speaker 1: the last show. I don't think the Redskins coach Jake
Speaker 1: Gruden wants to get rid of him. And I don't
Speaker 1: think necessarily Bruce Allen is going to be confident enough
Speaker 1: to put his job on the line to get rid
Speaker 1: of Kirk Cousins and replace him with what exactly. I
Speaker 1: don't know. You better have an answer. It better be
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. You know, it better not be j Cutler.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean it It's tough to get
Speaker 1: rid of a guy, and I don't see them wanting
Speaker 1: to help Kyle Shanahan out. But maybe the forty Niners
Speaker 1: truly would give up a godfather offer. That's what this is.
Speaker 1: All this is to me, this is all just leverage
Speaker 1: trying to build up his trade value. I can't see
Speaker 1: a team like the forty Niners with so many needs
Speaker 1: trading the number two pick for Kirk Cousins. I just
Speaker 1: they have too many needs. I don't see them. I
Speaker 1: could see Kyle Shanahan being patient and understanding that the
Speaker 1: Redskins can't tag Kirk Cousins again. Next year it would
Speaker 1: be thirty four million. He's Kirk Cousins would be free
Speaker 1: to go wherever he wanted to go in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eighteen. I could just see Kyle Shanahan approaching this
Speaker 1: with a lot of patients. As he said last week.
Speaker 1: All I would ask is, if you're Kyle Shanahan and
Speaker 1: you can get Kirk Cousins a quarterback that you know
Speaker 1: well for the number two pick. I know that sounds
Speaker 1: crazy at this time of year. What is a greater
Speaker 1: need than quarterback? I think I would look to Kyle
Speaker 1: Shannon's history. He has the quarterbacks who have reached their
Speaker 1: ceilings under Kyle Shanahan are Matt Shop in Houston, Brian
Speaker 1: Hoyer in Cleveland, r G three in Washington, Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, whoever he plays at quarterback is going to
Speaker 1: reach his ceiling. In my opinion, I don't think he
Speaker 1: needs to give up the number to pick for Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: He loves us, don't all accounts right, but he also
Speaker 1: loves a lot of quarterbacks. What a great quarterback coach.
Speaker 1: There is a lot out there that Kirk Cousins wants
Speaker 1: nothing to do with the Redskins, doesn't want to be
Speaker 1: in Washington, and and the Redskins I think have totally
Speaker 1: botched this. If they if the coach loves him so much,
Speaker 1: and the coach wants him around for long term, then
Speaker 1: they couldn't have handled this anymore with with any lesson
Speaker 1: they could have signed him to a deal last year
Speaker 1: that would have saved the money ultimately if they, if
Speaker 1: they had had the foresight to do it speaks to
Speaker 1: some dysfunction in the Redskins organization. Number one, I think
Speaker 1: that's true, But I I don't if if Shanahan truly
Speaker 1: loved Cousins and they could get it done for the
Speaker 1: number to pick, why not? I mean, look at the
Speaker 1: number two picks over the last X amount of years.
Speaker 1: How many of them are worth more than a franchise quarterback?
Speaker 1: Almost none of them. I mean, you have a fifty
Speaker 1: percent chance whether that guy's even gonna be a great starter.
Speaker 1: But you don't even believe Kirk Cousins is that good.
Speaker 1: I don't, But I don't think Klan does either. I
Speaker 1: don't think Kyle. I don't think Kyle Shanahan thinks that
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousin. He tried to choose like a top six
Speaker 1: NFL quarter tried to trade form in Cleveland for a
Speaker 1: fourth round pick, not the number two that was. That
Speaker 1: was a different time, and Kirk Cousins was seen and
Speaker 1: I hear you, But I don't think that Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: is seen by even the Shanahan's who love him as
Speaker 1: one of the top ten talents at the position in
Speaker 1: the NFL. And I wonder where all this is coming from.
Speaker 1: I want this to happen because if Cousins goes, then
Speaker 1: it all gets a little crazy, because then Washington is
Speaker 1: in the mix, and it's like Washington. If it doesn't go,
Speaker 1: the entire article needs just to be deleted because it
Speaker 1: all falls down from here. Speaking of Washington and this function.
Speaker 1: Does anybody find a little weird that a team employee,
Speaker 1: essentially on the team owned radio station, came out and
Speaker 1: throughout the accusation or possibility that their GM is drinking
Speaker 1: against Scott mccluhan, who is UM had issues in the past,
Speaker 1: that a team employee is saying that, and then the
Speaker 1: Redskins declined comment on the whole situation. That's you want
Speaker 1: to talk to this function? What is going on behind
Speaker 1: the scenes in d C. No one's heard from Scott
Speaker 1: mcleuin in weeks and weeks and weeks, but I think
Speaker 1: that's an incredible accusation just to throw out there. Jerry
Speaker 1: Brewer wrote this column that I sent to you guys
Speaker 1: about what's going on behind the scenes in Washington, and
Speaker 1: it just seems like the same old story that there's
Speaker 1: always this back by this fighting going on, and right
Speaker 1: now it seems to be a little bit of a
Speaker 1: power struggle between Bruce Allen and mcluhen and Jay Gruden
Speaker 1: and Cousins is wrapped up in all this and who knows.
Speaker 1: I would just say read the article, it's very very interesting. UM.
Speaker 1: Moving on, Mark, now you have Jimmy Garoppolo uh, stepping
Speaker 1: off the carousel, as it were, and joining the Browns.
Speaker 1: And we've talked about that, but I'm just curious. How disappointed,
Speaker 1: on a one to ten Factory of Sadness scale would
Speaker 1: you be if the Browns came out of this off
Speaker 1: off season without Garoppolo. Do you think he's a must
Speaker 1: have here? I don't think he's a must have. I
Speaker 1: think that if the if the if Hugh Jackson would
Speaker 1: want him that much and they don't get him, that's
Speaker 1: very disappointing. If if they are content to go somewhere
Speaker 1: else without mortgaging you know, a big part of their draft,
Speaker 1: and that includes getting a quarterback, and that would remove
Speaker 1: essentially r G three from the picture. I'd be all right,
Speaker 1: But that personally as a let's work under the assumption
Speaker 1: that Hugh Jackson likes I think he does pounding the table. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe he is. Maybe I'd like him. One to ten.
Speaker 1: How disappointed will you be if he's not the Browns
Speaker 1: quarterback Week one? I like, I'm at this point, I
Speaker 1: really truly, I keep saying this. I don't feel much anymore.
Speaker 1: So Okay, one to ten, where would you be? Six? Okay,
Speaker 1: I think you'd be eight. I think my main takeaway
Speaker 1: from this article, from this entire exercise, is that Mark
Speaker 1: wants Jimmy Garoppolo on the Brown Sure, sure I do,
Speaker 1: but that's that's that's not necessarily I think that's harder
Speaker 1: to pull off than people realize. I think I think
Speaker 1: the Bears are in love with Jimmy Garoppolo. I think
Speaker 1: the Browns are probably in love with Jimmy Garoppolo. And
Speaker 1: I think Kyle Shanahan would love to get his hands
Speaker 1: on Jimmy Garoppolo. So I think those are the three teams,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have a lot of competition. But the
Speaker 1: Browns make as much sense as any I think the
Speaker 1: Browns makes so much sense, and and I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people and we'll see how it really shapes up,
Speaker 1: but I think the Browns really whiffed on Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: and this would be a good way to kind of
Speaker 1: bury that sin. If you can pull off a trade
Speaker 1: that doesn't, you know, destroy your future, which I don't
Speaker 1: think it would because they have so much depth in
Speaker 1: the in this draft class in terms of um ability
Speaker 1: to trade awade picks and still be okay, uh go
Speaker 1: and get him take a shot. If you like them,
Speaker 1: go and get them. Don't let another guy get away, right,
Speaker 1: I mean first round picks. I'm almost at the point,
Speaker 1: I think for first round picks. I know, the contracts great,
Speaker 1: but it almost gets a little overrated. Before you know
Speaker 1: who the player is. Then you find out who the
Speaker 1: players you watch him for, you know, and it's it's
Speaker 1: it's some turns into Cam Irving half the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a defensive tackle, it's a it's a tight end
Speaker 1: that never materializes. I mean, I would rather go with
Speaker 1: the known product at quarterback, not every other place. Well,
Speaker 1: and the one thing that I'm not buying is, you know,
Speaker 1: there's the reports the Patriots have to be bowled over
Speaker 1: and they're happy to keep Garoppolo. They and I and
Speaker 1: I get that on some level, but if two or
Speaker 1: three teams are really in on him, there's no there's
Speaker 1: never gonna be a better time. And I think, and
Speaker 1: I think he gets traded. I would be surprised if
Speaker 1: he doesn't get traded. All Right, you have Tony Romo
Speaker 1: going to the Bears, and uh, again, a lot of
Speaker 1: logic there. Bears are looking to move on an upgrade
Speaker 1: from Jay Cutler. But you know the Bears. I guess
Speaker 1: the counter to this um West would be that the
Speaker 1: Bears our team that's kind of a few years away,
Speaker 1: and Tony Romo is one hit away from his career
Speaker 1: being over. Maybe I don't agree with the match on
Speaker 1: that on those grounds that they're not contenders. I could
Speaker 1: much more easily see Tony Romo in Chicago than Tony
Speaker 1: Romo and Buffalo. But isn't a kind of the same thing.
Speaker 1: I think the Bears are in better shape than than
Speaker 1: the rest of the football world thinks they're in, especially
Speaker 1: if they keep Alshan Jeffrey. I think they've got a nucleus.
Speaker 1: They've got a young second year running back who was
Speaker 1: second in the league in rushing. Their offensive line performed
Speaker 1: better than just about any team connected to Tony Romo
Speaker 1: on his landing Spots list. They really protected Matt Barkley
Speaker 1: well down to stretch last year, and I think they've
Speaker 1: gotten intriguing front seven on defense. But they've won. They
Speaker 1: won three games. It should be pointing out I'm talking
Speaker 1: about but Tony roll on the roster, which is better
Speaker 1: than the Bill's roster. I think right that's from a
Speaker 1: smart analyst perspective, is like Tony Romo really diving through
Speaker 1: and figuring out the total differences between like and think
Speaker 1: seeing all that in his mind that the Bears have
Speaker 1: that much potential when they're I mean, who who should
Speaker 1: be more invested in? When in And here's the thing
Speaker 1: that no one knows anything like Oh we know is
Speaker 1: that they haven't had a winning team in many years.
Speaker 1: We know he's got a connection to their general manager.
Speaker 1: We know that that he played college in that area,
Speaker 1: so that might appeal to him. How many years does
Speaker 1: Tony Romo have left zero to two? Is that? Are
Speaker 1: the Bears the team to go there? When your windows
Speaker 1: that small? That's I think to me, that's what it
Speaker 1: comes down to. I think the Bears can compete next
Speaker 1: year with a quarterback there is there is a lot
Speaker 1: of connections with Tony Romo there played football with the
Speaker 1: GM you know there. If they don't bring back us
Speaker 1: on Jeffrey, you know, if you're a quarterback, I would
Speaker 1: think that your weapons would be you know, one of
Speaker 1: the things you're certainly concerned about. They might have the
Speaker 1: very worst wide receiver group in the entire NFL. What
Speaker 1: about it, Jeffrey Ken Cameron meth two that works both ways.
Speaker 1: If you do keep Elshan, Jeffrey and Kevin White is
Speaker 1: who they thought they were drafting. Finally, they would be
Speaker 1: a much better wide receiving corps than people think. Karen
Speaker 1: Meredith played pretty well down the stretch. Mark, Is there
Speaker 1: anything anybody else in this list that you would like
Speaker 1: to talk about before we move on? Well? Go through
Speaker 1: them all? We got okay, Greg, go ahead, take over,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Oh. I agree with Josh McCowen to
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I think locked that in. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that was almost gonna happen last year. He's from Texas,
Speaker 1: he probably is thinking post career. He's definitely a family
Speaker 1: guy that's gonna move back to Texas. And I think
Speaker 1: he would fit with Dak Prescott. And they're probably gonna
Speaker 1: keep Kellen More too. I think that's a fit. I
Speaker 1: know he's I know Dan you mentioned he's got a
Speaker 1: multiple teams coming after him, but that might can't even
Speaker 1: a perfect backup, but durability issues and all that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that you know they have a young starting quarterback in
Speaker 1: place that makes sense. Brian Hoyer to the Patriots is
Speaker 1: I feel like Hoyer, in my opinion, probably thinks to himself,
Speaker 1: I can go somewhere and compete for starting job, because
Speaker 1: that's what it always seems to happen with Brian Hoyer,
Speaker 1: which is not happy in UH with New England, especially
Speaker 1: if they trade Garoppolo and they like they like Jake.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I think Horrier can go somewhere
Speaker 1: where you can compete a slice off that Jake Brisky.
Speaker 1: You have Tyrod staying with with the Bills. It's it's
Speaker 1: all fascinating, and you have the Redskins rebuilding from scratch
Speaker 1: because if the Redskins really did get in the mix,
Speaker 1: like the Redskins could very well be in the mix,
Speaker 1: the Buffalo, the Bills could very well be in the mix.
Speaker 1: Tyrode could very well be out there. There's so many
Speaker 1: X factors to this, like are are hit on Friday's
Speaker 1: addition of Up to the Minute Live, which everyone should
Speaker 1: watch four o'clock Eastern, one o'clock Pacific. West gets after
Speaker 1: me and really goes after me personally just for just
Speaker 1: for believing that Tony Romo could go to the Bill.
Speaker 1: So he doesn't have that many options. In West's defense,
Speaker 1: at one point, you also go, what do you know, well,
Speaker 1: you could watch all of that on NFL Network on Friday.
Speaker 1: I Greg is one of my most trusted voices in
Speaker 1: the wilderness. But we have reached a point in our
Speaker 1: relationship where we just are never going to agree on quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: What's that's just like, I have no more faith in
Speaker 1: your quarterback. Wait a minute, I can't deal with the
Speaker 1: Nick Foles and Mike Lennon I don't like, and the
Speaker 1: Tony Romo is willing to go to Buffalo stuff, I'm
Speaker 1: not hap I can agree on. This has nothing to
Speaker 1: do with the valuation you're trying to We're trying to
Speaker 1: get inside of Tony Romo's head. Can we at least
Speaker 1: agree that we have no idea what really matters to
Speaker 1: Romo and we have I'm not gonna agree with that.
Speaker 1: We have some information, it's it's totally uncertain. We have
Speaker 1: some information that indicates, you know, maybe some of the
Speaker 1: teams wouldn't be out there, and there's some logic that
Speaker 1: they just would be desperate. You're asking me to bypass
Speaker 1: common sense and say that Tony Romo, with only a
Speaker 1: year or two left in his career, is gonna want
Speaker 1: to go try to topple Tom Brady with a much
Speaker 1: worse roster. It's some money. No, I don't believe that
Speaker 1: if he goes to Buffalo, Wes, what will you give Greg?
Speaker 1: What will you do for or even if he shows
Speaker 1: it pants, I've already done that. I'll think, Um, will
Speaker 1: you eat Greg's pants? No, I don't know where Greg's
Speaker 1: pants have been on his but I'll buy him lunch
Speaker 1: for a week straight though. I like that. Wait, is
Speaker 1: this like the other food bets where they actually no
Speaker 1: one actually does anything with it? Or you? I mean
Speaker 1: the odds end of actually going to Buffalo, even for
Speaker 1: an optimal like I'm saying it's possible, would be pretty
Speaker 1: like a one in four chance or something. It's not
Speaker 1: like it would be particularly like. Yeah, so I'm saying
Speaker 1: very highest level. Alright, insummation comments made Greg to West?
Speaker 1: What do you know? West to Greg? I have no
Speaker 1: more faith your quarterback evaluation. Wow, it got personal quickly,
Speaker 1: and it's uncomfortable. I feel bad. You know, it's not
Speaker 1: just Sydney back there. There are multiple technicians working on
Speaker 1: the show, and it's I feel bad for them. All right.
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Speaker 1: all your articles there, it's all true, Well, most of
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Speaker 1: this happened. This guy got cut sitting in your chair.
Speaker 1: You write it whenever I set market typically when I
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Speaker 1: the mailbag slightly kickoffident enjoyed that I'm gonna you having nightmare.
Speaker 1: We can get that again before the show is all right.
Speaker 1: So this, of course, all these questions come from actual
Speaker 1: listeners of the Around the NFL podcast, And where do
Speaker 1: we want to start? Here's a good one, uh this
Speaker 1: from this one from uh Alajo Riguez Enriquez at p
Speaker 1: R I O n S who asks, what team besides
Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins will make the biggest free agency splash.
Speaker 1: It's a good question because everyone's Dolphins are where everyone's going. Oh,
Speaker 1: look out for the Dolphins. We've been saying the same thing.
Speaker 1: But what about another team? And I'll throw to you,
Speaker 1: Chris Wesley. Let me look at some salary cap numbers here,
Speaker 1: damn everyone's got I feel like there are ten to
Speaker 1: fifteen teams who have more than they could possibly spend
Speaker 1: almost the entire league, Like like a big forty Niners
Speaker 1: make a big splash. They have about eighty million in
Speaker 1: cap space, second only to the Browns, and they need
Speaker 1: warm bodies at multiple starting positions on that team. I
Speaker 1: think it's easier to get players to go to San
Speaker 1: Francisco right now with the you know, Kyle Shanahan is
Speaker 1: an attraction. Garson is an obvious one who when he played,
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahon's offense is based on the X receiver, a
Speaker 1: dominant X receiver, and I don't know if Pierre Garson
Speaker 1: is that guy right now, but he was one of
Speaker 1: the most efficient receivers in the NFL down a stretch
Speaker 1: last year he played. He led the NFL and catches
Speaker 1: as Kyle Shanhan's ex receiver with the Redskins. He's also
Speaker 1: had Julio Jones and Andre Johnson at that spot, so
Speaker 1: I would say maybe they start with him. I think
Speaker 1: the Jaguars, even though they've tried this over and over,
Speaker 1: I think it's their mode. I think they like to
Speaker 1: be active in free agency. They have the same GM
Speaker 1: and they've got to some degree a new regime. I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna want to get some new blood in there,
Speaker 1: and they've got money to spend. Throw in their Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: There might be a Buccaneers sleep a sleepy one. They
Speaker 1: they've got sixty million under the cap, and you know
Speaker 1: they're gonna go hard after DeShawn Jackson. People, Yeah, people
Speaker 1: think they'd go for Alson, and I don't think that's
Speaker 1: possible because then he's too much like Mike Evans, and
Speaker 1: you would have to be deciding almost not to pay
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, because then a year from now you would
Speaker 1: literally have the two highest paid receivers in the league
Speaker 1: on one team. Which took excellent point. Great, it makes
Speaker 1: up for your Mike Lennon love. Sad we're back in
Speaker 1: this territory. Well, you just trumped it with a sad, well,
Speaker 1: sad sad. Anyway, next up Heinz Bowman at Haines Christian
Speaker 1: Rights and I'm gonna tweak this just a little bit
Speaker 1: to make it a little more thought provoking offense. Hines
Speaker 1: none taken, I'm sure. He asks, He asks, would you
Speaker 1: rather have Jimmy? Know the the guts of the question
Speaker 1: are excellent, but you know, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 1: Would you rather have Jimmy G for ten years or
Speaker 1: Tommy B Tom Brady, Tom Brady that we saw this
Speaker 1: past season for three tom Brady? No question? Who is
Speaker 1: I want to win Super Bowls, championship banners fly forever?
Speaker 1: Who is you like? Who? What? What team? What entity?
Speaker 1: The Patriots? Yeah? If I play if I'm GM of
Speaker 1: any of the thirty two teams and my answer is
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. Okay, I'm gonna win a super Bowl. Let
Speaker 1: me knock it down to uh Hines's question, would you
Speaker 1: rather have Jimmy G for ten years? You edited his
Speaker 1: question joining us on the show, Greg or Tommy B.
Speaker 1: For one? I'm still taking Tom Brady. I would take
Speaker 1: Jimmy G for tens if i'm if i'm if I'm
Speaker 1: a bad football team and I get Tom Brady for one,
Speaker 1: that's truly swinging for the fences. I appreciate that, But
Speaker 1: you'd have Jimmy G for ten in this weird scenario.
Speaker 1: If you're a Patriots fan, I'm taking Tom Brady for one. Well,
Speaker 1: that I get because you would why disrupt anything that's happen.
Speaker 1: You never want him to. I know Tom Brady's an
Speaker 1: m v P can and I hope Jimmy Garoppolo can
Speaker 1: be a top twenty quarterback, but there's a chance he's
Speaker 1: not even a top quarter If you're if you're if
Speaker 1: you're a bottom barrel team and you're saying you have
Speaker 1: Tom Brady for one season verse a quarterback that's been
Speaker 1: very widely praised by people to work with them for ten,
Speaker 1: I will go with ten. Greg, You've started to get
Speaker 1: into soccer sort of. Yes, I am. I have chosen
Speaker 1: a team. I'm a west Ham fan. Yes, big big
Speaker 1: news breaking news of Nat Comb's podcast headquarters. Yeah. Not
Speaker 1: Nat Combs from Talk Sport two. I do a show
Speaker 1: with him. He presented me with the west Ham jersey
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl. You were there and I decided
Speaker 1: Hammers forever after your fandom can be bought. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: always kind of wanted one team to to root for.
Speaker 1: So Oliver Gray at Ali Underscored nine asked this question
Speaker 1: and I will throw it to you, Greg, because you
Speaker 1: did hang pretty well in a soccer related conversation with
Speaker 1: gold Center at lunch. Uh is it Leicester City? Leicester
Speaker 1: City Uh sacked? That is a terminology overseas for fired
Speaker 1: Uh their coach, UH Claudio Rani. Should they have stuck
Speaker 1: with Claudio Rani? Are or were they right to sack him?
Speaker 1: And and those that aren't fans of the Premier League?
Speaker 1: This was the Premier League. Uh, Leicester City was a
Speaker 1: huge underdog champion. I believe in the season and now
Speaker 1: that okay, they're close to relegation this season, so they
Speaker 1: sacked old Claudio. Your thoughts, Greg, Well, I'm no expert,
Speaker 1: that's for sure, but it seems outrageous. It'd be like
Speaker 1: if the Browns won the Super Bowl and fired Hugh
Speaker 1: Jackson in the middle, literally the middle of the next season.
Speaker 1: That's insane. I'm with you. I don't what do I know?
Speaker 1: Talking to gold Standard about it and what he explained
Speaker 1: and what Greg also weighed in, like, well, no, Greg's
Speaker 1: a big fan, but like, uh, I mean it seems ridiculous,
Speaker 1: Like he sounds like he gave that fandom an incredible
Speaker 1: shocking gift out of nowhere and this is what you
Speaker 1: turn around. Yeah, we didn't watch many matches this year
Speaker 1: last year, uh for el C, but I'm sure he
Speaker 1: played a big role in then winning the title. Yes,
Speaker 1: way a premature Sackings, I agree. Here's a question for
Speaker 1: Mark is the most natural person asked This question from
Speaker 1: James Somerville at mash Cheese. If any, if any of
Speaker 1: you were a Jedi, what color would your lightsaber be?
Speaker 1: Big Star Wars friend Mark Seiler, what color? And why blue? Then? Why?
Speaker 1: I like blue? It's a good answer. Next question Eric
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Speaker 1: all right, Chris Westling that he's will throw it to you.
Speaker 1: A former US Postal worker, give us a good old
Speaker 1: mail man story. I start my first day at the Covington,
Speaker 1: Kentucky Post Office. I believe I'm either twenty or twenty
Speaker 1: one years old, and I am paired with a six
Speaker 1: ft three, two seventy pound man named Ben Callaway, who
Speaker 1: informs me immediately he used to play with the San
Speaker 1: Diego Chargers, or was at least in their training camp
Speaker 1: one year, I believe, in the early eighties. And he's
Speaker 1: taking me through the housing projects of Jacob Price. And
Speaker 1: we go and we have lunch, and it's a very
Speaker 1: nice lunch at like the VFW, with some nice old men,
Speaker 1: white bread and bologney sandwich. The real action comes about
Speaker 1: two o'clock that afternoon. We're going through the mail route
Speaker 1: and we see a woman get hit in the face
Speaker 1: with a brick. Oh no, like a middle aged woman
Speaker 1: is hit in the face with a brick. A man
Speaker 1: a drug deal go wrong, and we see this younger
Speaker 1: white guy take off running and Ben, the guy who's training,
Speaker 1: he says, oh, yeah, that's his mom who just got
Speaker 1: hit in the head with a brick. That's a drug
Speaker 1: deal gone wrong. That was my first day on the
Speaker 1: job at the at the post Welcome to the route. Yes,
Speaker 1: So how did this citizens arrest? What do you think
Speaker 1: I was gonna go running after him? That? That's what
Speaker 1: mail mean. By the way, let's hear that again. And
Speaker 1: that was story time with the mailman. Nicely done. That
Speaker 1: was better than my story. Uh, next up, Tom, That
Speaker 1: sounds like a terrible, harrowing tale. West. I almost think
Speaker 1: there's probably maybe you can go into therapy and talk
Speaker 1: about it and get some things out. There are much
Speaker 1: worse experiences at the post office that I need therapy from.
Speaker 1: Moving on, Tom dow at Tom underscore score Tom eighty four.
Speaker 1: This is an interesting one. What would be your death road? Dinner?
Speaker 1: Love it? Greg? You know I have similar sensibilities when
Speaker 1: it comes to the Yeah, what would be your death road?
Speaker 1: I know Dan and I whenever we're ordering, we always
Speaker 1: get the same thing. It's kind of cute. And and
Speaker 1: I might go to what we had today at lunch
Speaker 1: at least in that vein. I think I might have
Speaker 1: to go fried chicken for my last my last meal,
Speaker 1: fried chicken and a like a biscuit, solid potatoes, and
Speaker 1: I would think about like a nice steak for sure,
Speaker 1: But I don't know. Right now, I'm thinking I'm feeling
Speaker 1: some fried. I'm thinking like a little like, um, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get a little sentimental because I'm going to be
Speaker 1: fried in an electric chair hours later. I'm guessing that's
Speaker 1: how this works. I'm gonna have my mom was getting
Speaker 1: your meat bolls. Nobody made spaghetti meat bolls like my mama.
Speaker 1: Give me that a little cooked meal. Yeah makes sense.
Speaker 1: You obviously would have made her proud if you're in
Speaker 1: this place, and yeah, assuming she would even agree to
Speaker 1: do it. I was on death row. Perhaps you would
Speaker 1: have cut off ties with me. But if I still
Speaker 1: have a sound relationship with my mom, her spaghetti and
Speaker 1: meatballs West my friend Alex Montoino from Cincinnati. His mom
Speaker 1: was a fresh off the boat Italian who made the
Speaker 1: most selectable morsel of food I've ever put in my mouth,
Speaker 1: her homemade lasagna, which she made the noodles from scratch.
Speaker 1: She made everything from scratch. He put a fork on
Speaker 1: top of lasagna. The fork just sinks all the way
Speaker 1: to the plate. It was that soft and light I
Speaker 1: want that lasagna. There you go, and Mark Sessler was
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated by Because you don't you're not a huge
Speaker 1: food fan, and the society is telling you the last
Speaker 1: great thing you get his food. Marco just be like, man,
Speaker 1: I'm okay. Well I would be like, yeah, I'm okay,
Speaker 1: because I don't. I don't get the whole thing that
Speaker 1: if you're about to be destroyed that I need to
Speaker 1: eat a huge meal. I would already probably have gone
Speaker 1: on because I would obviously be innocent and falsely accused.
Speaker 1: I would be on a long like use or water
Speaker 1: fast to begin with. I would refuse to eat. I
Speaker 1: would not eat anything in total protest of the judge
Speaker 1: that the entire judicial system botched this case. They botched it.
Speaker 1: So you let's say you did it. Let's say you
Speaker 1: snapped and and you did it. Then what which I
Speaker 1: still don't think I would say if we're I'm not,
Speaker 1: I would not eat. I would most likely if I
Speaker 1: be on death row of our group. I mean I
Speaker 1: would ridiculous, Greg. By the way, that is ridiculous, Greig. Secondly,
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. If I had done whatever
Speaker 1: they thought I had done, I would definitely be pretending
Speaker 1: that I hadn't done it and still protesting. I'm not
Speaker 1: going to suddenly change my tune. I will refuse to
Speaker 1: believe I did it. There you go, Which current This
Speaker 1: is from Bronco Fanatic at Bronco Underscore Fanatic. Which current
Speaker 1: or former NFL player would you most want to switch
Speaker 1: lives with? For me, this is easy as long as
Speaker 1: you get to time travel. I would like to be
Speaker 1: Joe Namath early in nineteen seventies, Upper East Side in Manhattan,
Speaker 1: living the life. That would be my choice. I don't know.
Speaker 1: The first name that came to mind is Bobby Lane
Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties. He treated the football season like
Speaker 1: I treat softball season, just an excuse to get together
Speaker 1: with your buddies and drink beer. Okay, can it be
Speaker 1: a coach? Which Kurt or former NFL player? But if you,
Speaker 1: if you want to, you most want I never liked
Speaker 1: these things. It's like, who would want to switch a
Speaker 1: life with someone? I would much rather be a coach.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would pick a how about
Speaker 1: be belly chick and see how that is fantastic? Old
Speaker 1: man congret. I don't think he's miserable. I think he's
Speaker 1: I mean thinking that he's on a boat right now.
Speaker 1: He's just wanting rings. There you go, sounds great. I'll
Speaker 1: be Malcolm Butler right before he makes that interception. Can I, oh,
Speaker 1: now the Patriots lose Gregg Rose and dropped it? Can't
Speaker 1: just ran for the out there get an ambulance? This
Speaker 1: from Lily Jacqui Jack with at Lily ja Qui. Uh,
Speaker 1: if all of your wives slash paramours had a podcast together,
Speaker 1: what would they talk about? I don't think we'd need
Speaker 1: that to happen that This is basically a pitch that
Speaker 1: John Gonzales Uh, Colleen Wolf hashtag or slash Connie Fox's
Speaker 1: husband has proposed to do I essentially a Wives of
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast reality show where he's he's
Speaker 1: sort of the centerpiece here, but it's kind of like
Speaker 1: how we're never around during the season and they're just
Speaker 1: drinking champagne and getting into different dramas. Okay, my wife
Speaker 1: would want to know who's raising our infant son two
Speaker 1: year old during these parties. I think it would be
Speaker 1: I would love to hear it. I wonder what roles
Speaker 1: they'd play. I'd don't particularly think that simone, my wife
Speaker 1: would want to be on a podcast, but maybe she would,
Speaker 1: maybe she would warm up to it if it's you know,
Speaker 1: Emily and Emika on the rest of the group. Emily
Speaker 1: definitely wouldn't be There wouldn't be a lot of football
Speaker 1: being the discuss I don't think that would be the
Speaker 1: expectation would be. Yeah'd be different. Emmacho definitely would not
Speaker 1: want to. Anthony tried to get her to come on
Speaker 1: to uh the Rosenthal and jessely Nick Vanity project, but
Speaker 1: no one even remembers that. But he did. People, people
Speaker 1: came up, people came out but the Super Bowl looking
Speaker 1: for it, and I had to tell him no. The
Speaker 1: shadowy league figures at the NFL shortsightedly shot shot it
Speaker 1: down and yet another one of their lack of foresight decisions.
Speaker 1: I think the paramour would love to be I think
Speaker 1: she would too. I think she'd be good on it too.
Speaker 1: I think she would. I think she'd be great on it.
Speaker 1: Why do you think she'd only be good? All right? Question?
Speaker 1: Does John get to me on this podcast? Oh? Heah,
Speaker 1: he's got He's got a larger design on the whole
Speaker 1: thing where it would sun you know, become much bigger
Speaker 1: than anything we're involved. There is something funny about that
Speaker 1: that it's him and they would love him to the
Speaker 1: wives agree to having John on the podcast. Why not?
Speaker 1: Why does he get the why don't they potentially and
Speaker 1: we don't need you here? In a sense though, he
Speaker 1: would be the the match to Connie Fox. So it
Speaker 1: makes sense. Oh that's well, then you're opening it up
Speaker 1: to the whole universe. Then what do you mean is
Speaker 1: then you got Lindsay Rhodses Hunt. Sure he could come on,
Speaker 1: but I mean that's like they would all appear as
Speaker 1: as they naturally appear, which is in some cases periodically,
Speaker 1: in some cases regularly Kevin Patra's fiance. We had Troy
Speaker 1: Aikman on here, It's not true Tony Roman here could
Speaker 1: be his wife. Now, okay, that makes sense, so very interesting. Okay,
Speaker 1: Dan and Dan, you'd have to hate on this show
Speaker 1: because the ratings would be would be good and you'd
Speaker 1: have to start it would be get very ugly. I
Speaker 1: would support it. If my wife was at coreback, she
Speaker 1: could cast it. And will Gregg pick his NFC South
Speaker 1: team of the season, that's a question. Hey, By the way,
Speaker 1: I said, the NFC South is gonna be the most
Speaker 1: exciting vision. It got pretty exciting. You're right, got pretty exciting. Well,
Speaker 1: every year, I'm a year off because I had the
Speaker 1: Falcons winning two years ago. I think this year I
Speaker 1: had the Saints. So I don't know who am I
Speaker 1: gonna blow. Maybe I'll go with the Bucks your Heart
Speaker 1: to New Orleans. Yeah, I don't know. Get out of
Speaker 1: the seven and nine. Yeah, I mean at some point
Speaker 1: they need to improve. Uh. Finally from Mark Ferresse at
Speaker 1: m J. Farreresse favorite movies, TV shows, books seen read
Speaker 1: from two thousand sixteen, and we could move into early
Speaker 1: months of two thousand seventeen. Anybody favorite movie, TV music, books,
Speaker 1: anything that's jumped out at you recently or in the
Speaker 1: last year. Oh Planet Earth too? Oh? Is that I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to that. I ordered it on demand. It's
Speaker 1: worth every penny, you know. I love nature, love nature shows.
Speaker 1: David Attenborough is a he's a real hero in Britain,
Speaker 1: deservedly the narrator. It's and it's beautifully shot and that
Speaker 1: knew what is it? H four technology or four K technology?
Speaker 1: What do you you? You gotta have a movie that
Speaker 1: you that you want to stump for I loved Manchester
Speaker 1: by the Sea. Yeah, that would probably my favorite movie
Speaker 1: that I've seen the last year or so. I loved
Speaker 1: this a little older, but I love both all all
Speaker 1: things O J related from last year, both the documentary,
Speaker 1: but from ESPN and UH the f X show that
Speaker 1: the show was actually much better than the documentary really
Speaker 1: well only because I followed that. I bold enough to
Speaker 1: have followed that day to day. And the documentary was
Speaker 1: very well done. But the f X show gave me
Speaker 1: stuff that I didn't perceive or detect. I tried to
Speaker 1: watch the f f X Show and I just couldn't
Speaker 1: get over the actors who were chosen to play the
Speaker 1: characters just didn't do it for me. It was fast Travolta.
Speaker 1: I thought the acting Gooding Jror looks nothing like O J. Simpson.
Speaker 1: That was that was a little problematic, But it's funny
Speaker 1: if you if you, if you despise O J. Simpson,
Speaker 1: which you have every right to, UH, don't not watch
Speaker 1: that because of O J. Simpson, Because Cuba Gooding Junior
Speaker 1: does not have a huge role in the show compared
Speaker 1: to the Lawyer and and all the other UH players
Speaker 1: tied into that real life soap opera, I'd have to
Speaker 1: throw in. Uh. The Elena Ferrante to me is one
Speaker 1: of the greatest writers that I've read in my lifetime,
Speaker 1: and I banged through her Neapolitan novels, read a couple
Speaker 1: of the others. That was one of those. Are some
Speaker 1: of the best books I read in two thousands sixte
Speaker 1: and I just read the new Michael Lewis, who I
Speaker 1: think everyone in this room would like. It's it sort
Speaker 1: of applies to what we do, and it's kind of
Speaker 1: like a weird prequel almost to Moneyball in a weird way.
Speaker 1: Very good. I will throw this in. I am watching
Speaker 1: The Young Pope on HBO. Your Way in It is.
Speaker 1: I feel like every once in a while you wish
Speaker 1: you could you find a show or a movie you
Speaker 1: wish you were attached to on some level in the
Speaker 1: production and understood how they made it. I think it
Speaker 1: is one of the best shows ever seen. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's for everyone either, but it is absolutely it is.
Speaker 1: The acting is incredible, the cinematography in it is unbelievable,
Speaker 1: and it it can Every single episode has two or
Speaker 1: three super jarring bizarre moments that I love, and I
Speaker 1: cannot stop watching it. They it lost me. I watched
Speaker 1: first episode, but I I based on what you're saying,
Speaker 1: I want to give it another shot, um because it
Speaker 1: was it was really weird and a little bit kind
Speaker 1: of My wife instantly was kind of out, and then
Speaker 1: I try to stick with it, but it's definitely different,
Speaker 1: So I wanna. I'm gonna I'm gonna go back in
Speaker 1: on Mark's recommendation, uh music. I like the radio Head
Speaker 1: album a lot last year Sturgill Simpson for me Simpson,
Speaker 1: I think it might have come out in two thousand
Speaker 1: and fifteen. But I really liked tam of Paul's last album. Yes,
Speaker 1: that was very good. Been playing a lot of It's
Speaker 1: Raining men in the jukebox that dive bars, and I
Speaker 1: think that songs come. What does that mean though? What?
Speaker 1: Let's the thing behind that a little bit? Why do
Speaker 1: you like? I think it's just that it's It's Why
Speaker 1: did that song get buried? When they talk about the classics,
Speaker 1: no one mentions it. Why the thing's right? It's raining
Speaker 1: with two ladies Angela Olson, It's great. The Chance. The
Speaker 1: Chance Christmas album was way better than you could have
Speaker 1: ever imagined. The Weather Girls sing it's raining, then that's appropriate.
Speaker 1: New run the Jewels. Wait, Paul Shaffer wrote it. There
Speaker 1: you go. See it's just Shaver did right. It's raining men. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, there you go. Let's let's close up the
Speaker 1: mail bag. Very strange, worst than the pickle drop. Um.
Speaker 1: We will be back U. Let's see, we'll be back
Speaker 1: on Monday, combine week next week. Uh So we will
Speaker 1: have a show Monday, and then we will do a
Speaker 1: show that combines the powers remotely from Indianapolis with uh
Speaker 1: West and Gray and Mark from the studio here in Culver.
Speaker 1: Uh So, get ready for that. So two more shows
Speaker 1: next week and then after that, I think we'll be
Speaker 1: going to three shows a week leading up to and
Speaker 1: through free agency. So keep your eye out for more
Speaker 1: around the NFL content, podcast content all spring. Thank you
Speaker 1: for everyone, uh for listening to We continue to get great,
Speaker 1: great kind of download numbers, which tells us that the
Speaker 1: audience is staying with us through the offseason, which we
Speaker 1: certainly appreciate. You guys are awesome. Uh And that's it.
Speaker 1: This is Dan Hanzas signing off for the Quiet Storm,
Speaker 1: The mail Man, the Old Boss, and New Money behind
Speaker 1: the Glass until Monday, m Welcome back to another edition
Speaker 1: to Be Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansers,
Speaker 1: and I am Julie. You're You're not even hut. It's
Speaker 1: it's for February. Let's start that