Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast has plenty of cap room
Speaker 1: to work with. Welcome back to another edition to the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Kansas and
Speaker 1: I am joined by room Feld heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey? Dan? All right?
Speaker 1: Tuesday show long layoff that that literally is the longest
Speaker 1: between shows we'll have all year. I would suspect solid
Speaker 1: five night, five days. Thank you, Thank you to everyone
Speaker 1: that you know came back. Maybe we lost thousands of
Speaker 1: listeners they unsubscribed, said these guys, they don't bring the
Speaker 1: stuff on the regular anymore. I'm moving on. Well right,
Speaker 1: so yeah, well thanks for and for the people that
Speaker 1: are here for soldiering through it. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: it was it was tough. Yeah, it was tough. But
Speaker 1: you know now we're all back together and we're all
Speaker 1: wearing nice dress shirts because we were once again the
Speaker 1: taping for up to the Minute. Uh, the NFL network
Speaker 1: program that you could watch will be on twice this week,
Speaker 1: So set your DVR. Set that DVR twice this week,
Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday. The shirt that I wore I at
Speaker 1: six am just pulled out of a dryer and could
Speaker 1: not have been more wrinkled and thankfully just you know,
Speaker 1: flattened itself out during the day. That's what you gotta
Speaker 1: do with the wrinkled shirt. Just take it through the day.
Speaker 1: By the way, Greg, you are really starting to cross
Speaker 1: over now. Uh you actually showed up on the scroll
Speaker 1: over at the mother Ship in Bristol, espn off one
Speaker 1: of one of your writings at NFL dot com. They
Speaker 1: do refer to you though in the scroll in this
Speaker 1: pro wasn't a scroll Yeah, like the bottom graphic. He
Speaker 1: wants to clarify, Yeah, to clarify, he you referred to
Speaker 1: as NFL dot COM's Greg Rosenthal. And I'm sure, uh
Speaker 1: that was a hit to both your ego and a
Speaker 1: contract violation had it happened at NFL s in a
Speaker 1: film that woke So he was like, someone sent this in.
Speaker 1: I don't understand really what they're what they're saying. Uh
Speaker 1: should we use I said absolutely, I have no idea
Speaker 1: what they're saying either. But I heard Greggy Giggy Rosenthal
Speaker 1: in there and uh green light and everybody sending your
Speaker 1: submissions for NFL Networks. Greg Rosenthal, Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 1: I consider not even showing up for this podcast today
Speaker 1: because once you know, Stephen A. Smith uses your column
Speaker 1: as a jumping off point for meaningless debate, somehow more
Speaker 1: meaningless than my dart throwing, which was that column. You know,
Speaker 1: picking fits for the right team. Yeah, there's nowhere to
Speaker 1: go in the day, there's nowhere to go in your career.
Speaker 1: But down you did it. Greg. I think it comes
Speaker 1: as no surprise that that the mother ship would pick
Speaker 1: that article, of all articles as a jumping off point.
Speaker 1: That's just fitting. Uh that that drop came from Jamie
Speaker 1: Andrew in Glasgow. Hit him up at the underscore magic
Speaker 1: torch if you want to, you know, figure out what's
Speaker 1: sing in those last three words. So you got a
Speaker 1: plug out of it and you got on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Jamie flying high, not higher than Greg though, Dan Well,
Speaker 1: and I'm not really flying I you know, you seem
Speaker 1: almost resentful about the amount of love Jamie's getting right now.
Speaker 1: I think it's a threat. I wouldn't say that I
Speaker 1: was one that that requested people send in submission. So
Speaker 1: this is totally right. Did the leg work to get
Speaker 1: it on the show. Yeah, and now Greg is trying
Speaker 1: to turn it into some type of narrative can't let
Speaker 1: it happen behind the glass today. By the way, besides
Speaker 1: the great First Lady is Kevin Danger, Hansas, brother of
Speaker 1: the old Zuser, in in California for the week. He's
Speaker 1: done heroic work. Uh. We have um eaten omelets together.
Speaker 1: We drank a lot of too ela and UM. This
Speaker 1: morning is as recently as this morning. We're listening to
Speaker 1: a lot of Madonna deep cuts and drinking more so
Speaker 1: the brothers. Do you do some weird stuff? You just
Speaker 1: go down different roads, playing laser tag with the children,
Speaker 1: played some laser tag over the weekend with the kids
Speaker 1: in the backyard of handsas manner. I knew you guys
Speaker 1: were up to something when I was getting late night
Speaker 1: screen grabs of various songs you were listening to with
Speaker 1: no context or messaging, just the shot of the songs
Speaker 1: that I he and Danger are. They're up to no good.
Speaker 1: I like it, lion high So Kevin Danger behind the
Speaker 1: glass Alright, Today's show good Ones, sponsored of course by
Speaker 1: Mr Flame and his economics class in the Hague, Netherlands.
Speaker 1: A lot of news to get to, including um some
Speaker 1: rough news from New York jets Land. As I continue
Speaker 1: to make that charge toward Mark Sessler's corner as most
Speaker 1: tortured things of all the narratives. This, this is not
Speaker 1: and thought out well by you, Dan, This plan of
Speaker 1: attack against Mark's corner. Well, sometimes even if you know
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose the war, it's just fun to get
Speaker 1: into a few battles. Well, this one is beyond the
Speaker 1: It depends how you define the because if you were
Speaker 1: defining it, which which raster would you rather have? Chris
Speaker 1: Wesley and which raster would you rather have? I am
Speaker 1: on Mark's side on this. I refuse to entertain this
Speaker 1: notion that Dan is suffering more than Mark in his fandom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Greg, Well, let's talk about it when Jimmy
Speaker 1: garoppolo and then we'll talk Josh Gordon, the triplets in
Speaker 1: the League West, like a true politician, didn't answer the
Speaker 1: question because he knows he would take the Browns. It's
Speaker 1: it's not about what's happening. This instant about the journey
Speaker 1: of what's happened. Don't even come at me with anyone.
Speaker 1: I'm looking down the road. When you have a quarterback
Speaker 1: in a nine one season and I'm sitting on two
Speaker 1: and fourteen with Bryce Petty and Christian. I would gladly
Speaker 1: him the corner realistic. I don't want to be on
Speaker 1: the corner. I think I want to be on the corner.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It sounds like you want something, um narrative.
Speaker 1: We'll talk. We'll talk some news, including yes, a prominent
Speaker 1: New York jet having trouble with the law. We will also, Greg,
Speaker 1: you're referring to the column that you wrote connecting players, uh,
Speaker 1: two teams and free agency. So we're gonna go around
Speaker 1: the horn and all, uh pick one player and one
Speaker 1: team and recklessly, recklessly comment and speculate on why that
Speaker 1: could be a good match and free agency, which is
Speaker 1: coming up. Greg, When is free agency? March nine is
Speaker 1: when the new league year starts, but they can start
Speaker 1: tampering a little bit that two days before that. There
Speaker 1: you go, and we can talk a little Tony Romo,
Speaker 1: which we you know, everybody loves to talk Romo to
Speaker 1: to kill time on the on the major networks during
Speaker 1: this time of year. But we're gonna do it today.
Speaker 1: Put in a nuanced smart way, no pie in the
Speaker 1: sky analysis. We're not looking for the cheap clicks, if
Speaker 1: you will, This is really where Tony Romo will end up,
Speaker 1: Uh what what makes sense? It makes the cupcake and
Speaker 1: a brownie. I'm calling it a crownie. I think the
Speaker 1: listeners will be the judge of whether it's smart and nuances. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you, by the way for the the cupcakes at
Speaker 1: hands this manner, West and I were we're there on
Speaker 1: our birthday. That's a shout aired birthday. Yeah, I'll shout
Speaker 1: out to the women of the house. Get the credit
Speaker 1: for that, because they found out it was both of
Speaker 1: your birthdays and nothing had been prepared, and they're like,
Speaker 1: well you can't do that. So you got cupcakes and
Speaker 1: the way we go, Wow, I'm delicious. This is totally
Speaker 1: how I figured it went. I did not think that
Speaker 1: Dan decided to whip up some cupcakes for Greg and I.
Speaker 1: I thought, okay, Emily heard that it was our birthday,
Speaker 1: and because she's a nice she's a nice woman, she said,
Speaker 1: let's get these guys a little attention on their birthday.
Speaker 1: I like the fact that you have multiple women at
Speaker 1: your house. As far as I knew, you had two
Speaker 1: sons and a wife. So this is news to everyone
Speaker 1: in the room. All right, so that is today. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll just leave that there. That is what's going on today.
Speaker 1: And before we get going, we gotta say hi, yes
Speaker 1: officially to say hello to the first lady around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast New Money. You guys, I got a new
Speaker 1: theme song. So we wanted to use when You Wish
Speaker 1: upon a Star, which is an iconic Disney song, but
Speaker 1: the SLF's shadowy League figures, Uh, don't let us use
Speaker 1: any music that is copyright now, there's no wiggle room.
Speaker 1: So Sydney, what did you do? How did you? How
Speaker 1: did you improvise? You? So this is actually a song
Speaker 1: from a Russian ballet which they use in the movie
Speaker 1: and wrote lyrics to these to this song which is
Speaker 1: now public dom what movie Sleeping Beauty? Yes, nice workaround, right,
Speaker 1: it's all public domain. It's in our music libraries. So
Speaker 1: deal with a shadowy league figures away from the show
Speaker 1: and that's that. You cannot do that forever, all right, said,
Speaker 1: let's do some news now, didn't we That was the
Speaker 1: one that Gregg privately prepared with you. And it sounded
Speaker 1: like a car crash, the one didn't we want to
Speaker 1: have the one that sounded like an actual jet crashing?
Speaker 1: Oh does that exist? Does that sound from a vehicle angle.
Speaker 1: That would make more sense unless the jet landed safely
Speaker 1: and then got into a car accident. I remember that
Speaker 1: being the drop, the one that Sydney just played, and
Speaker 1: then you having the same criticism last time. Alright, we're
Speaker 1: just repeating ourselves. Yeah, all right. We'll start, of course
Speaker 1: with the New York Jets and cornerback Darrell Reevas, one
Speaker 1: of the most decorated greatest players in franchise history, is
Speaker 1: coming off a terrible season and now he has his
Speaker 1: low point off the field in his NFL career. Uh revs.
Speaker 1: The Aready one turned himself into authorities on Friday day
Speaker 1: after he was charged with four felonies and a misdemeanor
Speaker 1: not at own stemming from his alleged involvement in a
Speaker 1: physical altercation in Pittsburgh on February twelve. Uh this is
Speaker 1: if you're following this case along, that's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a strange case because apparently he was approached outside
Speaker 1: a bar late at night by someone who was was,
Speaker 1: you know, using their camera phone to get some video
Speaker 1: reevs Brown Reeves allegedly through the phone, and then at
Speaker 1: some point it turned into a scuffle with reev Us
Speaker 1: and maybe someone else and two guys ending up out cold,
Speaker 1: knocked out, lights out. It's like West outside hucka Poo's
Speaker 1: in two thousand seven, lights out. I wouldn't I wouldn't
Speaker 1: go that far. Uh. And of course so the police.
Speaker 1: Only Reevers has been charged, but of course his side
Speaker 1: is saying he had nothing to do with knocking these
Speaker 1: two gentlemen out. But it complicates the situation here for
Speaker 1: the Jets, who are already uh in a place where
Speaker 1: they weren't sure if they wanted to bring Revis back
Speaker 1: if they can cut him and eat a six million
Speaker 1: dollar cap charge uh this year or rework his contract
Speaker 1: which is way, way, way bloated compared to now his
Speaker 1: ability as a player. But now, to me, Greg Rosenthal,
Speaker 1: it feels like if the Jets were kind of, you know,
Speaker 1: hanging on and which way to go, this might be,
Speaker 1: you know, it's time to a clean break from Mr
Speaker 1: Rivas and we might even save six million dollars out
Speaker 1: of it. And that's the next part of the story.
Speaker 1: It's a sad way for Revis's career with the Jets
Speaker 1: to end, but I think it was ending anyways, even
Speaker 1: though that they have to pay him guaranteed money. They
Speaker 1: can save UH seven plus million dollars in cap room
Speaker 1: by cutting him, so I don't think he had virtually
Speaker 1: any chance to return to the team anyways. If anything,
Speaker 1: this makes it more complicated that you know, the court
Speaker 1: dates not until March fifteen, but I don't think they
Speaker 1: need to worry about it. I expect him to be
Speaker 1: an ex Jet sooner than later. If you would have
Speaker 1: told me or any other Jets fan, let's say five
Speaker 1: years ago, that in five years Drew Rivers will win
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, but it will be with the Patriots,
Speaker 1: and he will be arrested on multiple felony charges. Charges
Speaker 1: and he's never had any trouble with the law uh
Speaker 1: in his time with the Jets, so you never kind
Speaker 1: of would connect him to something like this. And again,
Speaker 1: we don't know if he actually had a real role
Speaker 1: in this or he just got caught in the wrong
Speaker 1: place at the wrong time. We don't know, but the
Speaker 1: fact that those two things have happened and it is
Speaker 1: it's like a classic Jets thing. They brought him back
Speaker 1: and they and they paid, uh, they paid out the
Speaker 1: nose to do it, and it's been nothing but aggravation
Speaker 1: for the most part, and I believe they should get
Speaker 1: out now because West Ultimately, the Jets are in a rebuild.
Speaker 1: So you even if you restructured his salary and made
Speaker 1: him his safety and all that stuff, the Jets aren't
Speaker 1: gonna win a Super Bowl the next couple of years,
Speaker 1: and he's at an age now where he'll be out
Speaker 1: of football most likely within a couple of years. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't make any sense. I don't think I agree
Speaker 1: with you totally. I don't think there's anything about Revus
Speaker 1: and the Jets that makes sense as a team right now.
Speaker 1: He was scapegoaded last year. Well, he he played poorly
Speaker 1: enough that a lot of the problems got blamed on him.
Speaker 1: But the Jets have the least amount of salary cap
Speaker 1: room in the NFL right now. It's a mess. They
Speaker 1: are in full blown rebuild, and to jettison a guy
Speaker 1: like Revis makes a lot of sense. Well. And also
Speaker 1: I don't know if he was scapegoaded, and I wouldn't
Speaker 1: say that entirely because the way that he conducted himself
Speaker 1: in terms of his comments to the press was exactly
Speaker 1: the opposite of what the Jets were hoping to bring
Speaker 1: back In the whole Aura era. The whole idea of
Speaker 1: Revis crumbled. I think last season and you've got it,
Speaker 1: you've got a highs with this guy. The past year
Speaker 1: has been completely out of character with who he was
Speaker 1: from two thousand seven until he left over the first
Speaker 1: time two thousand twelve, and even last year when he
Speaker 1: had a decent too good season but maybe a little disappointing.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, he didn't handle himself well with the press,
Speaker 1: he didn't play well. And now this happens. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just hard to make sense of. Well, you're one
Speaker 1: of the greatest players of your era and you're played
Speaker 1: declines and you're in the spotlight of New York. You
Speaker 1: might not react to it too well. You know, at
Speaker 1: this this signing never made sense to me other than
Speaker 1: for sentimental reasons. And I you know, you called me
Speaker 1: probably a stinky Davis at the time of the signing
Speaker 1: for saying that, because because you were big on it,
Speaker 1: Jets fans are big on it. Bring them back. We're
Speaker 1: getting them back from the Patriots. And and when this
Speaker 1: happens and you make moves where you pay a guy
Speaker 1: quarterback money at twenty nine years old, for sentimental reasons,
Speaker 1: you're hoping, maybe we get one or two good years.
Speaker 1: They ended up getting one, they got a second disaster year,
Speaker 1: and now they're gonna eat money for you. Here's the
Speaker 1: one by one counter to that. It did not work out.
Speaker 1: But at one point last year they were ten and
Speaker 1: five and they had beaten the But that's not the goal,
Speaker 1: would not be. They were they were one of the
Speaker 1: hottest teams in the league with Rivas on the team
Speaker 1: they were going for. They were trying to rebuild and
Speaker 1: and make a push at the same time, which didn't
Speaker 1: work out. But they were in position with Rivas to
Speaker 1: make a run potentially, and then it it crumbled. But
Speaker 1: now you're now you're a team where the coach and
Speaker 1: the GM are one of the offseason candidates to be
Speaker 1: out of there by week eight if things don't go
Speaker 1: very well. So they have to handle this situation in
Speaker 1: a pristine manner from here on out. Yes, does Rivas
Speaker 1: need one or two more years to make the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame or do you think he's already not at
Speaker 1: the level he's playing right now. I'm surprised. I think
Speaker 1: he already punched his ticket. I think I think he's in.
Speaker 1: You I have given up on predicting how Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame voters will vote. But he was the best defense
Speaker 1: I think, probably the best cornerback I've seen outside. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: it be better Sanders in his prime? Wouldn't it be
Speaker 1: better to get out now? If? If you really in
Speaker 1: your If he believes that his plays declined, which he
Speaker 1: he mentioned in so many words to some degree last year,
Speaker 1: then to have two more fading scene forget a four
Speaker 1: first team All pros. That's more than this entire class
Speaker 1: of Hall of Famers, this recent one had, except for
Speaker 1: Kenny Easily and all his colleagues, him is the best
Speaker 1: of generation. So I think that, like Dion, Sanders was
Speaker 1: thirty seven years old with the Ravens UH, and nobody
Speaker 1: thinks about that. You think about the glorious Let's move
Speaker 1: on the Jacksonville Jaguars UH and Miami Dolphins doing business
Speaker 1: together UH on this week? First, UH, Julius Thomas, the
Speaker 1: tight end the Jacks signed to a huge deal two
Speaker 1: years ago, did not work out at all, So they
Speaker 1: move um Thomas to the Dolphins in exchange for a
Speaker 1: seventh round pick. Someone will have to make sense and
Speaker 1: make sense of this to me, because it was confusing
Speaker 1: to me, and in a separate deal the Dolphins or
Speaker 1: excuse me, the ja Jaguars send Brandon Albert, another big
Speaker 1: free agent sign signing from a couple of years ago
Speaker 1: who hasn't quite worked out. Um, excuse me, The Dolphins
Speaker 1: send Brandon Albert, another free agent signing that hasn't quite
Speaker 1: worked out, to the Jaguars in exchange for a seventh
Speaker 1: round pick. Let's start their west. Well, why didn't they
Speaker 1: just make this a single trade? Why aren't theyking a
Speaker 1: complicated for the old douser. I'm guessing just because of
Speaker 1: contracts and what what would have to work on that level.
Speaker 1: But I don't know why they did that to you, Dan,
Speaker 1: what what are thoughts about this trade? Mark Julius Thomas
Speaker 1: to me, uh, look nothing like physically, look nothing like
Speaker 1: the guy that that was dominant in Denver for a
Speaker 1: couple of years. He looks he looks slow and old,
Speaker 1: which uh doesn't translate to me to being a game changer.
Speaker 1: But maybe it turns back the clock a little bit.
Speaker 1: When he signed with the Jaguars for a lot of money,
Speaker 1: he definitely was on our radar and those old shows
Speaker 1: about picking potentially perilous free agent deals, and he was
Speaker 1: he for the money and for what he was coming
Speaker 1: out of that offense in Denver to go to Jacksonville
Speaker 1: with what the lack of they had there. It didn't
Speaker 1: It was a disaster, But I I like the idea
Speaker 1: of pairing him again with Adam Gaze. Adam Gaze knows
Speaker 1: a what kind of practice player he was under Adam
Speaker 1: Gays in Denver and what his potential is and how
Speaker 1: he can be used in Adam Gates's offense. So I
Speaker 1: like the landing spot there better than him signing with
Speaker 1: some other team with a team that has no idea
Speaker 1: what he'd be like in the building. So it's a
Speaker 1: chance to revive your career. I don't think we know
Speaker 1: who he is right now. When he got to Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: the Beat writers spent that whole offseason and summer before
Speaker 1: he ruptured attendant in his finger saying he was the
Speaker 1: best player on the field and all their practices. And
Speaker 1: then he came back from the hand injury in October
Speaker 1: and he had no chemistry with Blake Bortles whatsoever, and
Speaker 1: he looked overweight, so that ruined his first year in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: His second year, he has multiple injuries and ends with
Speaker 1: a fractured tailbone and is even worse in that year.
Speaker 1: So it's all. It's been injuries and no chemistry with Blake.
Speaker 1: Durability is a skill. That's the reason why some people
Speaker 1: were worried about him as a free agent. He wasn't
Speaker 1: very good in his last year in Denver, which he
Speaker 1: was also hurt uh for so he hasn't really been
Speaker 1: healthy much as career. He has never played more than
Speaker 1: fourteen games. That was his one breakout year. He played fourteen.
Speaker 1: That was two thousand thirteen when the Broncos broke all
Speaker 1: those records, and the two years before that he missed
Speaker 1: due to ankle injuries too. That said for one year,
Speaker 1: and I would say this is true on both sides
Speaker 1: of the deal. You're not paying the signing bonus, you're
Speaker 1: not paying tons of guaranteed money. Why not like Brandon Albert,
Speaker 1: you know, I would not group him with Julius Thomas
Speaker 1: as a bad free agent signing. He was a great
Speaker 1: free agent signing. He gave two years of top level
Speaker 1: left tackle play or at least one year uh and
Speaker 1: then an okay year and then last year he was hurt.
Speaker 1: He played through an injury, wasn't great. They have to
Speaker 1: pay him eight million dollars, you know, so what they
Speaker 1: got sixty million in cap room. They don't have to
Speaker 1: pay him anything. It's worth it's worth a shot. They're
Speaker 1: flipping like low, low level draft picks. You look at
Speaker 1: who's picked in the seventh round in the NFL draft.
Speaker 1: I would take a chance on Julius Thomas in Adam
Speaker 1: Gaze's scheme over whatever you're gonna get in the seventh
Speaker 1: But it is a reminder that the Miami is in
Speaker 1: this cycle, like who who is Julius Thomas replacing Jordan Cameron?
Speaker 1: There was another let's take a shot on a guy
Speaker 1: the other team doesn't really want in the middle of
Speaker 1: the scare for different reasons, you know, but just taking
Speaker 1: a gamble on a free agent that one didn't pan
Speaker 1: Outlet's replace him with another. Some other Dolphins news to
Speaker 1: hit news from Bowl teams. Actually, the Dolphins signed Cameron
Speaker 1: Wake to a two year contract. So Wake, who came
Speaker 1: to the NFL uh later in his career as getting
Speaker 1: another contract now because he continues to play at a
Speaker 1: really high level. He had eleven and a half sacks,
Speaker 1: in the twenty sixteen season and has eighty one and
Speaker 1: a half in his eight year career. And I could
Speaker 1: tell you these a little math. It's just over ten
Speaker 1: secs per season. Well done, and like that Cameron Wake,
Speaker 1: it's amazing what he did coming off of a ruptured achilles.
Speaker 1: He was phenomenal list year, playing as well as ever.
Speaker 1: He he's astounding that he that age hasn't mowed him
Speaker 1: down yet. Well, this was, you know, and we talked
Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about it on our hit on up
Speaker 1: to the minute on Thursday about the Dolphins spending that
Speaker 1: you know one of the reports this week Ian Rapports said,
Speaker 1: you know, get ready for them to spend a lot.
Speaker 1: This was the deal that told me, okay, they're clearing
Speaker 1: the decks because this is an accounting move. This is
Speaker 1: just pushing money into the future to lower Cameron Wakes number,
Speaker 1: give him a little extra guarantee in two thousand and eighteen,
Speaker 1: reward him and like, hey, let's clear some money so
Speaker 1: we can go spend it again. They did it last
Speaker 1: year too, He got an extended last year. With all
Speaker 1: due respect to rap Sheet, it would be news if
Speaker 1: the Dolphins were not preparing to make a big splashing. Uh.
Speaker 1: Speaking of clearing the decks and also age mowing people down,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are saying goodbye to Mario Williams on Thursday.
Speaker 1: The team released the veteran defensive end on Thursday, also
Speaker 1: parting ways with defensive tackle Earl Mitchell. Uh. The the
Speaker 1: release of Williams not a big surprise. Thirty two years old,
Speaker 1: just a sac and a half last year, not far
Speaker 1: from the guy he was in his Texans in Buffalo
Speaker 1: heyday and one last No. The Jaguars also in uh
Speaker 1: offseason remake mode. They cut ties with defensive lineman Jared Drick,
Speaker 1: who signed a five year, forty two and a half
Speaker 1: million dollar contract with Jacksonville in twenty fifteen. So uh,
Speaker 1: the twenty nine year old will go elsewhere. Jacksonville says
Speaker 1: goodbye to Jared Mario an Reevis. Mario Williams and Revis
Speaker 1: will have to decide did they want to keep playing
Speaker 1: football for like a seven hunderent pay decrease or whatever
Speaker 1: the number is, you know, FO, because that's what they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to do. They might just decide, Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I know that Mario Williams is one hundred percent plugged in.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you are familiar with Jared odricks
Speaker 1: Instagram account, but he did not look too disturbed when
Speaker 1: he received the news of his release. He had a yeah,
Speaker 1: he had an Instagram of him essentially celebrating on the beach.
Speaker 1: He he had the phone, he was pointing at it
Speaker 1: with a smile, and he's in like a bathing suit
Speaker 1: on some exotic beach in the middle of the Pacific.
Speaker 1: Is that kind of like I'm a happy guy, This
Speaker 1: isn't gonna bother me, or like I'm happy to get
Speaker 1: out of Jacksonville. I think it was more like I've
Speaker 1: got no care in the world. Football season's over, We'll
Speaker 1: address this time. I've made millions in guaranteed money. Is
Speaker 1: that how you anticipate your NFL media career ending an
Speaker 1: Instagram photo you on the beach a hard body from
Speaker 1: the Tom Brady diet and pointing to your uh instant.
Speaker 1: I mean, in this case, they would they would call.
Speaker 1: They wouldn't call me, They wouldn't even do the courtesy
Speaker 1: of that I could have gotten if it wasn't so
Speaker 1: rainy this weekend could have gotten some hot you know,
Speaker 1: Cessler bod picks with your family. Well, unlike Greg's Facebook
Speaker 1: page from a couple of years ago, I don't post
Speaker 1: shirtless photos of myself on Facebook. I have never posted this. Well,
Speaker 1: they got out there somehow. What Greg got banged on
Speaker 1: social media a couple of years back, I believe was
Speaker 1: your father in law posted beach shots of you like
Speaker 1: paparazzi like beach shots. Once I was made aware of it,
Speaker 1: I immediately deleted. Well, that's my point, I I stay.
Speaker 1: I pre positioned myself for that not to happen. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's move to the Bay Area where Kyle Shanahan, of course,
Speaker 1: uh now the head coach of the forty Niners, and
Speaker 1: he you know, there's a lot of people tying Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: Of course there worked together um in d C that perhaps, uh,
Speaker 1: that this would be a perfect match. Uh if the
Speaker 1: if the Niners wanted to make a hard run, if
Speaker 1: Cousins became available. But that's kind of pie in the
Speaker 1: sky stuff. And Kyle Shanahan uh confirmed that in a
Speaker 1: interview with CSN Bay Area. You're not trying to commit
Speaker 1: everything to one year, Shanahan explained, Yes, you want to
Speaker 1: win right away. That's the goal of everybody. But you
Speaker 1: don't want to do that at the expense of hurting
Speaker 1: your future. You don't want to gamble. You want to
Speaker 1: be aggressive in everything, but you gotta do what's right.
Speaker 1: You have to build your team the right way. And
Speaker 1: that's what I mean by being patient. Chris Wesling, you
Speaker 1: wrote the piece and around the NFL, he's got the big,
Speaker 1: juicy contract, he has the ability to stay patient. Right well,
Speaker 1: I think he understands they're not a veteran quarterback away
Speaker 1: from contending. This is one of the worst rosters in
Speaker 1: the NFL, and like you said, he's got six years.
Speaker 1: That's a wide berth to institute a rebuilding project. And
Speaker 1: we've seen NFL insiders have been circling kirk Cousins like
Speaker 1: sharks with chum being thrown from the boat, waiting for
Speaker 1: something to happen with this guy. And maybe kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: has he's not gonna sign, he's not gonna negotiate his
Speaker 1: long term deal until after they placed the franchise tag
Speaker 1: on him. That's what he's come out and said. So
Speaker 1: he's gonna get forty four million over two years, forty
Speaker 1: three million over two years, there's only twenty three players
Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL who have ever made
Speaker 1: one million in a career. Kirk Cousins is a chance
Speaker 1: to be part of that group. Oh it's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: barring an injury, because they'll make that money this year.
Speaker 1: He'll get it next year, whether it's from San Francisco
Speaker 1: or or someone else. Kyle Shanahan, you know, I think
Speaker 1: the forty Niners are one of the prime teams though,
Speaker 1: And I'm not breaking any news here. To watch out
Speaker 1: for for Jimmy Garoppolo. I thought you gonna say to
Speaker 1: watch out for Kirk Cousins and two maybe, but I
Speaker 1: didn't even call for this, but it happened. Holy hell yeah,
Speaker 1: that that drips worth it just to watch Mark's faces. Guy,
Speaker 1: I hit a home run at the Super Bowl, got
Speaker 1: the big scoop. You can do it too, Here's all
Speaker 1: I'd say. I think you said if you're calling yourself
Speaker 1: some sort of Woodward and Bernstein. Those guys went piece
Speaker 1: by piece with the case until it ultimately was cracked.
Speaker 1: This this, this this Jersey case has gone on and
Speaker 1: on and now new avenues. You gotta keep breaking the news.
Speaker 1: You've got to keep breaking the story closely if you're
Speaker 1: reading the end around, I'm all over it now? Am
Speaker 1: I going to continue to break every avenue? I mean,
Speaker 1: if we're going to continue to play, that that would
Speaker 1: be appropriate. I have breaking news coming, it's coming. I
Speaker 1: think that you would owe that, you would owe the
Speaker 1: podcast listeners more breaking news to continue with that sound drop.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that drop is gonna hang around
Speaker 1: just because of how much it angers you. Well, it's
Speaker 1: it's I just think that there's a juxtaposition and logic
Speaker 1: in playing when you know at this point where three
Speaker 1: weeks removed from that news being broken, Well, that's what
Speaker 1: we're heading toward. I think with this drop. I am
Speaker 1: more annoyed a little bit with this. There is all
Speaker 1: this patience around Kyle Shanahan all of a sudden, and
Speaker 1: it's like this, this is really nice, but this is
Speaker 1: this honeymoon is going to come crashing to an end.
Speaker 1: I feel like, in a way, I'm not saying I'm
Speaker 1: not saying he won't be successful, but I can think
Speaker 1: of a team a year ago that was saying we
Speaker 1: might get a quarterback. We might not. There are a
Speaker 1: terrible team and we might pass on a quarterback at
Speaker 1: number two and treated completely differently. I mean, I understand
Speaker 1: that Kyle Shanahan is the bell of the ball right now,
Speaker 1: what do you mean treated differently? The Browns could not
Speaker 1: have been more more positively reviewed. I just think he's
Speaker 1: sort of saying everything, you want to be aggressive, you
Speaker 1: don't want to commit, you want to commit. It's like
Speaker 1: we get it call. It's like what you're saying a
Speaker 1: little bit is I don't know if we're going to
Speaker 1: get our quarterback, and I have to pr that angle
Speaker 1: because that might be what happens. We might not get Cousins,
Speaker 1: we might not get Jimmy Garoppolo, we might not want
Speaker 1: to draft in one at number two, and we might
Speaker 1: go into the season with nothing at quarterback. Everyone be
Speaker 1: prepared for that, right the differences Kyle shanahanan has yet
Speaker 1: to even get a chance at free agency or the
Speaker 1: dray The Browns went through the draft and decided they
Speaker 1: didn't want Carson Wentz. Yeah, I mean that's that's a
Speaker 1: big difference. Before we just crowned Kyle Shanahan with everything
Speaker 1: in the NFL, I want to just see it happened.
Speaker 1: I think Niners fans want to see it happen too.
Speaker 1: I think Mark's fired about a t N media insider
Speaker 1: and Kyle Shanahan just got the blowtorch because of That
Speaker 1: might be true, but I believe what I just said.
Speaker 1: I do think that is that is a media group
Speaker 1: up there like that. The reporters in San Francisco are
Speaker 1: exhausted with what that team has done. This is a
Speaker 1: nice fresh start, but the honeymoon is not gonna last long.
Speaker 1: If there's suddenly one and nine and they're telling us
Speaker 1: about how patients and it doesn't work in any city
Speaker 1: that was that That could be another role for you,
Speaker 1: Sessler take insider Dan hands is. He he breaks through
Speaker 1: and tells you what was really going on behind that
Speaker 1: was really going on? Is what I said. If I
Speaker 1: can't break more news, I'll have to transition into Sessler
Speaker 1: takings Uh Finally Tripolet, Tropolet, tropolet triplett. It's that time
Speaker 1: of year, folks were starting to head into the point
Speaker 1: of the NFL calendar where everything is hunky dorry at
Speaker 1: all thirty two teams, nothing possibly could go wrong, and
Speaker 1: everything and every move that was made is working like gangbusters.
Speaker 1: Moves like the decision by Jim ursa Uh to hire Uh,
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard is the team's GM to replace the late
Speaker 1: well he's I mean die, Yeah, that's Ryan Grigson. That
Speaker 1: would be breaking news. Yeah, the former GM of the Cults,
Speaker 1: Ryan Grigson. And a big problem, of course in the
Speaker 1: dynamic between Grigson, UH and Pagano was that they didn't
Speaker 1: get along. And that was very public fodder. It was
Speaker 1: a soap opera. But Ursay tweeted on Sunday that GM,
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard and Chuck Pogano our quote clicking on all cylinders,
Speaker 1: every cylinder, click click, click, And when you're clicking it all,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know about cars. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of a big time car guy. Get under that hood
Speaker 1: and I, you know, plug those spark plugs and then
Speaker 1: I twist the engine nugs and I use the rent
Speaker 1: to use the wrench to make the motor fastener, and uh,
Speaker 1: when those cylinders are all going together top performance. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I think I'm probably three or four in car
Speaker 1: guy category in this room. I'd put a man a guy.
Speaker 1: We're also we're missing a car guy in this room.
Speaker 1: I mean, but are we We're also missing a directional guy? No,
Speaker 1: we are the worst if we go to a league
Speaker 1: event and we have to navigate in the city when
Speaker 1: Greg is the one leading away, which means that there's
Speaker 1: at least two wrong turns. And that's not a shot
Speaker 1: at you. You're the best of the group. You're the best.
Speaker 1: I just don't mind. We've never been wrong every time,
Speaker 1: patra I just I'll just be like, all right, I'll
Speaker 1: be the one Patrick show some actual promise in the
Speaker 1: Patrick and that could that could work. Let's make sure
Speaker 1: we get Patrick at every league going forward, just to
Speaker 1: make sure we can get from point A to point
Speaker 1: bay anyway. So, yeah, everything is going beautifully in Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: and the the owner of the Colts want you to
Speaker 1: know that. All right, that's what's happening in the news.
Speaker 1: That's the first of west. That's the first of many
Speaker 1: tropes to come, you know. That's the troupe filled off season. Um, alright, sorry,
Speaker 1: we'll be writing an article on each one of those.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I will not. Greg gained great fame earlier
Speaker 1: today with a pc road on NFL dot com about
Speaker 1: free agency and I like the way you put it
Speaker 1: in your headline, Greg, a fun Player edition. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: like this just the right amount of looseness for for
Speaker 1: my column here. Don't take me too seriously here, guys,
Speaker 1: we're just having fun. Hey, there's an extra week now
Speaker 1: before the combine. We gotta we gotta write some stuff.
Speaker 1: Let's have a little fun play match Maker, just frolicking
Speaker 1: in the park. I was having a little fun here.
Speaker 1: And that's the one that gets nationally broadcast all the
Speaker 1: like the hard work, research post driven post you've written
Speaker 1: in the past five years here at NFL Media, that's
Speaker 1: the one that goes national. Go figure. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to complain, you know when I know I learned a
Speaker 1: lot of people watch first take that was a surprise,
Speaker 1: or at least have it on with the sound off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: block them, Block those people from your life. That's true. Alright,
Speaker 1: So let's go around the room here. Greg wrote a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of them, and if you can check out
Speaker 1: on NFL dot com. Uh and I'm sure he'll be
Speaker 1: sharing one of them that are on the list. That
Speaker 1: is on the list. Uh, So why don't we start
Speaker 1: with you, Greg? Okay, thing's up a little bit. Uh
Speaker 1: if you would care to share a fun Player edition
Speaker 1: from either of the a f C or the NFC
Speaker 1: anything that makes your you know, your engine, nuggs really rotate.
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of the rights. That's car
Speaker 1: talk an engine, trying to think of the right spot
Speaker 1: for Jason Pierre Paul. You know, I tried to a
Speaker 1: sign out you know, both of these big name free agents.
Speaker 1: Who really needs a pass every everyone needs a pass rusher.
Speaker 1: There's no pass rushers available, But there was one coach
Speaker 1: recently saying a pass rusher is a must this offseason,
Speaker 1: Sean Payton. There is one coach in GM who now
Speaker 1: feel a little uncomfortable because the seven and nine bull
Speaker 1: crown has gone from Los Angeles and it's in New
Speaker 1: Orleans seven and nine three straight years. That that that
Speaker 1: um I already forgot his name. Jeff Fisher was the
Speaker 1: guy that got destroyed for that, and you know, after
Speaker 1: the hard knocks thing, Uh, it made sense, But it
Speaker 1: was truly Sean Payton, who should be the guy that
Speaker 1: gets that seven and nine b three straight years? This
Speaker 1: is this feels really like a do or die. They
Speaker 1: have to win, and this is a team that is
Speaker 1: not afraid to act a little desperate in free agency
Speaker 1: any season. I mean, they're the ones who signed Jared's birds,
Speaker 1: Bird Bird, They'll they'll bring guys. They've had a lot
Speaker 1: of misfires over the last few years. This year they
Speaker 1: actually have some cap room for once. They got thirty
Speaker 1: million dollars in cap room. They need the defense event
Speaker 1: and you could just see him spending a little too much.
Speaker 1: But Pierre Pau is a good player. I wouldn't knock
Speaker 1: him for it. They really need it badly. Also, I
Speaker 1: like the I like the name Pierre Paul. This is
Speaker 1: where the fund comes in, the name Pierre Paul in
Speaker 1: New Orleans. It just sort of can they possibly pull
Speaker 1: it off when their general manager spends of his time
Speaker 1: running the Pelicans that angle, you guy, you've been pushing for.
Speaker 1: Maybe it does play a role in the fact that
Speaker 1: they can't get an NBA team and an NFL team.
Speaker 1: How that goes for you? You know, he just they
Speaker 1: just brought in Boogie Cousins to the Pelic a knowledge
Speaker 1: for Mickey Lewis. Now you get Jason Pierre NBA media
Speaker 1: inside er, Greg Rose NBA NFL media inside or Greg
Speaker 1: That was a complete, uh steal by the Pelicans to
Speaker 1: get Cousins from Sacramento. Mark. So maybe that's probably when
Speaker 1: Lewis was focusing on the Saints. They ought to melt
Speaker 1: that one Lombardi trophy. They have fashion it into a
Speaker 1: shopping cart and kick it back and forth between them
Speaker 1: and the Miami Dolphins to decide who wins. The offseason
Speaker 1: change every year because neither of them are competing with
Speaker 1: the way they approach free agency. Jared's bird is hurt
Speaker 1: right now. Wow, It's just it's just corled Saints. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't feel bad, too bad for them. Saints fans
Speaker 1: are enjoying this Falcon's loss like their team won the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I think that says something about your fan base.
Speaker 1: When you get all your pleasure from the pain of
Speaker 1: another friend, it shows your vindictive and it's and it's
Speaker 1: a great rivalry. I've always said, so, um, I will
Speaker 1: now throw a player out there. And actually, Greg, I
Speaker 1: did not see this before making this connection, but you
Speaker 1: and I are on the same page. It's Eddie Lacey
Speaker 1: h the Green Bay Packers. Now I know the Packers
Speaker 1: partner ways with James Starks and it it potentially clears
Speaker 1: the path for a reunion in Green Bay with Eddie Lacey.
Speaker 1: But he's also because of his injuries and some of
Speaker 1: the conditioning issues, and uh, his value is a little
Speaker 1: depressed right now, So I don't think you need to
Speaker 1: like go create. You could over pay him a little
Speaker 1: bit without breaking the bank and get him out of
Speaker 1: Green Bay because like if I feel like Ted Thompson
Speaker 1: is gonna fight too hard uh to keep Eddie Lacey
Speaker 1: in my opinion, So now I think about where would
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey be a fit? And I've talked about this. Uh,
Speaker 1: it happened in two thousand seven with Randy Moss, it
Speaker 1: happened with h Chris Hogan last year. I can name
Speaker 1: a hundred other times where and many It don't have
Speaker 1: to be a Jets fan. You can be an a
Speaker 1: f C fan, uh where the Patriots make one move
Speaker 1: every offseason and you think to yourself, fun, that's a
Speaker 1: perfect fit. And there's no way that guy is not
Speaker 1: going to be great. And I think Eddie Lacey on
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots next year makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 1: And Legarrett Blunt had I think eighteen touchdowns last year,
Speaker 1: which is excellent. But does does anybody really scared of
Speaker 1: le Garrett Blunt? He's he's somebody after game playing around
Speaker 1: Like I could see them getting younger. Getting Lacey was
Speaker 1: a more dynamic version of Blunt. Uh, and he plugs
Speaker 1: he plugs in right there, and he also has double
Speaker 1: digit touchdowns, only he does it in a way that
Speaker 1: makes their offense much better, whereas Blunt is kind of
Speaker 1: a between the tackles. Grinder hate the idea of it,
Speaker 1: but I could see it happen. It's not fun to me, Greg,
Speaker 1: I think it sounds fun. And he'd be the same
Speaker 1: age as la Garrett Blunt was when he first arrived.
Speaker 1: And Greg, do you think that they are going to
Speaker 1: they'll prioritize on any level bringing Blunt back or is
Speaker 1: he gone? He says he wants to go back to
Speaker 1: New England, But no, it depends what you mean by prioritize.
Speaker 1: I think they'll offer enough. They'll they'll have a number
Speaker 1: for him. It would probably be like two years, five
Speaker 1: million dollars total, which is not much. And if he
Speaker 1: wants to go somewhere else, they'll because Lacy gives you
Speaker 1: the same thing, and he's younger, they'll wait it out.
Speaker 1: I don't anticipate, well, I don't anticipate that they would
Speaker 1: make running back their first priority. So if Blunt wants
Speaker 1: to sign a contract in the first day or two,
Speaker 1: then it would be elsewhere. This is like the Facebook
Speaker 1: movie Dan thinks of millions dollars cool? A billion dollars
Speaker 1: is cool. You want to get the other fan bases
Speaker 1: in the FC all hacked off dropping f bombs. Forget
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacey. Patriots are signing Adrian Peterson. WOA a fun
Speaker 1: free agent fit top. I feel like Eddie Laces would
Speaker 1: scare me more than Adrian Peterson in two thousand seven.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Eddie Lacey was even fatter into last
Speaker 1: year than he was the year before. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know why Eddie Lacey would scare anybody right now,
Speaker 1: but Adrian Peterson. Here's what the Patriots do when the
Speaker 1: rest of the league zigs, they zagg and Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: has said one of the reasons they always draft late
Speaker 1: in the first round. So what they have to do
Speaker 1: is become an outlier. And we've heard for the last
Speaker 1: three weeks that no general manager's gonna pay Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: this offseason, and I don't think they will. I think
Speaker 1: the Patriots can get him from on a one year,
Speaker 1: five million dollar deal or something like that, and We've
Speaker 1: seen this act before that would lead to an f
Speaker 1: as well. Corey Dillon rush for seventeen hundred yards almost
Speaker 1: when New England basically parachuted him out of Cincinnati behind
Speaker 1: in an awful Bengals organization installed him as their lead back.
Speaker 1: And I know James White and Dean Lewis are gonna
Speaker 1: play on passing downs, but la Garrett Blunt rushed three
Speaker 1: hundred times and had eight teen touchdowns in a regular season.
Speaker 1: The Patriots don't want Tom Brady throwing as much now
Speaker 1: as he did three or four years ago, where he
Speaker 1: carried the offense. They ran the ball almost fifty percent
Speaker 1: of the time last year. And if you're Peterson, what
Speaker 1: a way to go out because there aren't that many
Speaker 1: more years. And I know that does not make Dan happy,
Speaker 1: but it's the Patriots can pay less for players because
Speaker 1: of what the other side of it is Peterson and Lacy.
Speaker 1: I guess to a lesser excent makes sense to me
Speaker 1: because the Patriots. What Belichick does well as he focuses
Speaker 1: on what you can do. He's not worried about what
Speaker 1: Peterson can't do. He's not gonna act, He's not worried
Speaker 1: about the passing downs for Peterson, he's not worried about
Speaker 1: how he's gonna go out like they've got people for that.
Speaker 1: The same thing with Blunt. Once a limited player, he
Speaker 1: does what he does well, touchdowns. How many Competerson scores? Right?
Speaker 1: Lacy and Peterson, you know even more are kind of
Speaker 1: like that. They're not a complete players, but they wouldn't
Speaker 1: need to be in My counter to this is that
Speaker 1: the Patriots are smart. Obviously there's a reason why it's
Speaker 1: not just Tom Brady and Bill Belichick the way they've
Speaker 1: been built the team. Uh. And I have a feeling
Speaker 1: that Peterson is gonna get overpaid by someone in this offseason,
Speaker 1: someone that will buy that has a lot of money
Speaker 1: to spend and will buy into this idea that he's
Speaker 1: still Adrian Peterson. And I don't think the Patriots are
Speaker 1: gonna overpay to get Adrian Peterson in the building at
Speaker 1: age thirty two. And I think that's why he'll end ups.
Speaker 1: I would even put a sandwich on that. My I agree.
Speaker 1: My whole idea is based on the fact that the
Speaker 1: rest of the league, the other thirty one teams, do
Speaker 1: not want to pay Adrian who is gonna pay I
Speaker 1: could see the Bucks have been the one team and
Speaker 1: if he mentioned the Bucks, it's partly because he mentioned them.
Speaker 1: And actually, if you go back to the Giants to
Speaker 1: he he did mention the Giants too. If you go
Speaker 1: back and watch a video where Peterson is talking with
Speaker 1: his age during his big standoff with the Vikings two
Speaker 1: years ago, his agent is wearing a Buccaneers hat, which
Speaker 1: it seemed like a very like transparent move, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we can get some money from them, and I think
Speaker 1: he fits their offense. Well, I just think he fits
Speaker 1: with their cutter with like one of those beat writers
Speaker 1: in Tampa Bay said recently they did not expect Doug
Speaker 1: Martin to be cut mhm. Finally, Mark Sessler, give us
Speaker 1: some fun. All right, Well, so it's all New England
Speaker 1: gets better by adding Adrian Peterson or Eddie Lacy or
Speaker 1: both and seven other players, and they go, right, how
Speaker 1: about this. We talked about the New York Jets, the
Speaker 1: team that everyone just presumes will just sit in the basement,
Speaker 1: and you and we acknowledge they might be in a
Speaker 1: little bit of a rebuild. Why not make this season
Speaker 1: totally bizarre and strange for the Jets fans. You got
Speaker 1: you cut Reeves, you cut some other junk players on
Speaker 1: that team. You got some money to spend. You go out.
Speaker 1: None of these guys are gonna break the bank, at
Speaker 1: least most of them. Here's what you do. You sign
Speaker 1: Kenny Britt, Kenny Stills, Ken dill Wright, and and you
Speaker 1: sign Brandon Myers, Brandon Marshall. You bring him back, whatever
Speaker 1: sort is the under contract, bring him back, you keep
Speaker 1: him on the roster. You get Brandon Lafel, you get
Speaker 1: Brandon Tate, and you take Brandon bold And away from
Speaker 1: the Patriots he's a free agent. And then you just
Speaker 1: line up your offense with Kenny's all over the field
Speaker 1: and Brandon's all over the field, and the Patriots in
Speaker 1: Week one, or like, I got Kenny, which Kenny? That Kenny,
Speaker 1: there's three Kenny's. No one knows what's going on. There's
Speaker 1: I got Brandon. He's in the backfield, but there's four
Speaker 1: other Brandon spreading in the formation. And the Jets have
Speaker 1: it's the k brand kids offense. You just send defenses
Speaker 1: into total hyper confusion, and you score at least two
Speaker 1: extra touchdowns a game by keeping the defense in absolute
Speaker 1: they're commistified. I've cost you that much money, it's it's
Speaker 1: stupid and insane, but it would be potentially fun. And
Speaker 1: there's Jets fans are not gonna have a lot of
Speaker 1: fun next year unless we signed every Brandon and every
Speaker 1: Ken in the snaps left for Eric Decker and Quincy
Speaker 1: at noon wat. But but if they changed their name
Speaker 1: Kenny Decker that was surprised to see Brandon so so heavily.
Speaker 1: I'll agree to this on one condition. That week one
Speaker 1: halftime ring of Honor Ken O'Brien, Oh, let you go
Speaker 1: see with with Kenny Albert announcing the game. All right,
Speaker 1: that was fun. I had fun there. Ring of Honor
Speaker 1: Ken O'Brien would be, you know, the most desperate desperate
Speaker 1: moves since they gave Shane Graham a one day contract
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati on Tuesday, which was the most most desperate
Speaker 1: moves since the Jaguars gave Paul Spicer a one day
Speaker 1: That's the one day contract Hall of Fame Paul Spicer.
Speaker 1: Was that the one where they had the marching band
Speaker 1: in the in the room was now, wait are you
Speaker 1: thinking of Jordan Gross? You got in trouble with Panthers
Speaker 1: fans on that one. That was a gross up. All right, Finally,
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit, UH, little Tony Romo talk.
Speaker 1: I mixed a cupcake and a brownie. I'm calling it
Speaker 1: a crownie. Uh. Tony Romo UH is most likely going
Speaker 1: to be a free agent, in case you haven't heard,
Speaker 1: but he could also be traded. So Chris Westling took
Speaker 1: all the information. He added his fingertips, and he looked
Speaker 1: back into the history of the NFL and also looked
Speaker 1: into the future. He went in all directions the time
Speaker 1: space continuum. Uh. To bring us a piece as I
Speaker 1: look forward in my papers headline ranking the potential landing
Speaker 1: spots for Tony Romo and west Uh, you brought up
Speaker 1: a I thought a really solid comparison. Not that it's
Speaker 1: it's exactly apples to apples, But after Brett Farve and
Speaker 1: the Packers had their breakup and bred far and the
Speaker 1: Packers and Tony Romo and the Cowboys both are completely
Speaker 1: synonymous with each other. And Uh, it was not easy
Speaker 1: to get Brett Farve out of Green Bay, but they
Speaker 1: did it, but it was a messy ending to the
Speaker 1: end of his tenure. And maybe that happens with Romo too.
Speaker 1: There are some similarities they're about the same age. People
Speaker 1: forget that. If Brett Farve had not torn his biceps
Speaker 1: and played through that injury at the end of the
Speaker 1: year and basically sabotaged the Jets season, they were a
Speaker 1: legitimate threat for the Super Bowl that year eight and three.
Speaker 1: After beating the Patriots without Tom Brady out for the
Speaker 1: season with an a C. L called my dad after
Speaker 1: the game. I said, Dad, this is it. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do it. And then he had that secret biceps injury
Speaker 1: that which he played through, and he played terribly through it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you give him credit for that,
Speaker 1: but I thought it was a little selfish. They weren't
Speaker 1: gonna It's not like Kellen Clemens was going to take them.
Speaker 1: It's up to them to benjam It's not his fault
Speaker 1: he wants to keep playing. Brett, Yeah, Brett Farve, he
Speaker 1: was a team first guy all the way in his career.
Speaker 1: The comparison I made it was because there was a
Speaker 1: lot of back channel maneuvering. Brett Farve wanted to go
Speaker 1: the Vikings. The Packers wouldn't let him, so he said,
Speaker 1: I want to go to the Lions. They're not going
Speaker 1: to compete with you atop the a f C or
Speaker 1: NFC North Packers wouldn't let him go there. It was
Speaker 1: either the Jets of the Bucks. Farv wanted to go
Speaker 1: to the Bucks. Packers said no, we like the Jets
Speaker 1: package better. Bus Cook far As agent called Mike Tannenbaum,
Speaker 1: who was the Jets general manager at the time. It's like,
Speaker 1: you're making a big mistake. This wasn't smart at all.
Speaker 1: Far's not coming to New York. And to Tannonbob's credit,
Speaker 1: he went through with it anyway and and forced the
Speaker 1: trade to happen. I'm not saying the relationship between Romo
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys are that contentious, but if you're looking
Speaker 1: for a reason why a trade would happen instead of
Speaker 1: a release, all of these last minute surprises or back
Speaker 1: channel maneuvering between agents and teams, who knows what could
Speaker 1: happen between now and March nine. The I agree, and
Speaker 1: yet I don't see the team that's gotta like it.
Speaker 1: Basically would be all the teams sort of have to
Speaker 1: call the Cowboys bluff and just wait for them to
Speaker 1: release him. And I don't see the team that's gonna
Speaker 1: jump off of that be Like, actually, we will give you.
Speaker 1: That would be the comparison that no one saw the
Speaker 1: Jets as team that was going for far. They had
Speaker 1: Pennington at the time. The Chiefs are the team. To me,
Speaker 1: I think that makes the most sense to just come
Speaker 1: out of nowhere as a surprise. But you know, you
Speaker 1: gotta make sure you close that deal and you get
Speaker 1: rid of Alexman. It's a whole at the whole thing.
Speaker 1: So looking at West's list, you have, let's start there
Speaker 1: at number three, right in the middle of this here
Speaker 1: you have the Chiefs as so would this be that
Speaker 1: would make them the third most likely destination? Is that
Speaker 1: the way to look at this um were the Chiefs
Speaker 1: who have Alex Smith in the building. Everything we're hearing
Speaker 1: West about the Chiefs is that they're they're comfortable with
Speaker 1: Alex Smith. They still think he's the guy. But still
Speaker 1: this is a special situation. Something isn't adding up, and
Speaker 1: it's maybe it's Andy Reid's history of bold face line
Speaker 1: when it comes to cool quarterbacks to go in front
Speaker 1: of press conference and say McNab's my guy, and then
Speaker 1: go with vic Or to say Cobbs my guy, and
Speaker 1: go with vic Or to say this and then trade guys.
Speaker 1: Andy Reid has lied consistently about his quarterback situation lies
Speaker 1: and he has come out and said, there is no
Speaker 1: question Alex Smith is my starting quarterback. He has double
Speaker 1: and John Dorsey has come out and said Alex Smith
Speaker 1: is our starter. But every single NFL insider is lining
Speaker 1: up to put Romo in the Chiefs as a marriage
Speaker 1: that could happen. And I think most of it probably
Speaker 1: is coming from Romo's list that is circulating that the Texans, Broncos,
Speaker 1: and Chiefs and the Cardinals were on his list. Those
Speaker 1: four teams have always been on his list, according to
Speaker 1: the insiders. I just don't see the Chiefs as a
Speaker 1: serious can You're gonna four years into Andy Reid's offense,
Speaker 1: Alex Smith has I think Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: the only quarterbacks with more wins since two thousand eleven.
Speaker 1: No matter if if Smith's ceiling is limited or not,
Speaker 1: you're gonna risk alienating him or cutting him all together
Speaker 1: to bringing a guy who's one hit from retirement. I
Speaker 1: just don't see that. Addie Nup, you said the right
Speaker 1: word risk. Of all the teams on this list, it's
Speaker 1: the Chiefs that would take a tremendous risk by doing this,
Speaker 1: and then of course Alex Smith gets dispatched somewhere else
Speaker 1: and three weeks into the season you're potentially out with it.
Speaker 1: We can't predict injuries, but Romo has done this time
Speaker 1: and time again, and it would look awful for that
Speaker 1: organization to get to get rid of Smith. Have Romo
Speaker 1: come in and get hurt in August or some practice
Speaker 1: and suddenly you've gotten nothing. That's I mean, you can
Speaker 1: say that for any team that brings in Romo, but
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have the lodge of not the Bears, right,
Speaker 1: but they were right, they wouldn't have I'm saying Romo
Speaker 1: is a massive injury risk for anything. That's risk getting
Speaker 1: rid of a guy who's giving you the best record
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Since Week seven of two thousand fifteen,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have the best record in the NFL with
Speaker 1: Alex Smith as their quarterback. Right, But we're playing both
Speaker 1: sides of the fence a little because we always knock
Speaker 1: them for not having to say defense. We're saying, in
Speaker 1: this situation, Romo is too big of a risk. I
Speaker 1: like the idea of trying to upgrade on Alex Smith,
Speaker 1: but a guy who's one hit away from retirement, isn't
Speaker 1: the upgrade? All right, Let's move to number two on
Speaker 1: West's list, and this is this is the team you've
Speaker 1: heard Romo connected to the most, and really going back
Speaker 1: to last year when Dak Prescott was locked in as
Speaker 1: the starter, the Denver Broncos, because we know that they
Speaker 1: have history with this type of situation, an older quarterback
Speaker 1: uh and Peyton Manning in the case of season being
Speaker 1: a part of a loaded defense team with a loaded
Speaker 1: defense and taking him to the Promised Land. This one
Speaker 1: checks a lot of boxes. Mark, Why wouldn't it happen?
Speaker 1: I think because it doesn't have to with Denver. You've
Speaker 1: people that watch Trevor Simeon versus just the name Trevor Simeon,
Speaker 1: like his game and see there's a reason to stick
Speaker 1: around there with him. And you've got Paxton Lynch, who's
Speaker 1: the first round quarterback waiting in the wings. You don't
Speaker 1: have to chase Romo or a veteran in general, the
Speaker 1: way that they semi courted Colin Kaepernick last year when
Speaker 1: there was literally nothing at the position. Well, here's my
Speaker 1: counter to that is that you know Romo, if he's healthy,
Speaker 1: would be a huge lift to that offense, where Simeon
Speaker 1: a guy that showed some promise, and Lynch, who's a
Speaker 1: total mystery at this point. Every team has Super Bowl
Speaker 1: windows that are only so so large. They have a
Speaker 1: big window right now to go into. I think it
Speaker 1: makes sense. It's just that's why it wouldn't happen, because
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to. But yeah, if you want to
Speaker 1: plug Romo into that, what that's still it would still
Speaker 1: have on defense, and it's also and it's also a
Speaker 1: different offense, so it's Trevor Simmeon in a different offense.
Speaker 1: It's Paxton Lynch learning the new offense. You know, I
Speaker 1: don't know if Tony Romo, if they think he's a
Speaker 1: great fit for that or not. I think it makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. They would be number one on
Speaker 1: my list partly because they don't need him, because they
Speaker 1: don't have to do it quickly that they can wait
Speaker 1: this thing out. It might take a little bit of time.
Speaker 1: And they don't have a lot of money at quarterback.
Speaker 1: And that's the difference between them in Houston, which you
Speaker 1: have number one. They just don't you know, they're not
Speaker 1: already paiding paying the quarterback it's nice for them that
Speaker 1: they're fine as they are and they could easily fit
Speaker 1: Romo in there. I think if they needed to, and
Speaker 1: if it dragged on for a while, whether it's a
Speaker 1: trade or release and everything, we know he wants to
Speaker 1: go there. I think everyone's trying to figure out why
Speaker 1: John Elway isn't gung ho about Tony Romo. And I
Speaker 1: think John Elway watched his offensive line last year. That's
Speaker 1: a recipe for disaster putting Tony Romo behind that offensive line.
Speaker 1: And I honestly think John Elway he likes not having
Speaker 1: to pay a quarterback. He's built his roster now where
Speaker 1: he pays his defense instead of his quarterback. Is a
Speaker 1: good point because Tony Romo, I don't know he was
Speaker 1: ready to pay Brock sixteen million. I think you pay
Speaker 1: him if you get a guy Tony Romo cannot stay
Speaker 1: healthy behind the best offensive line in the league, and
Speaker 1: then you would put him in what maybe at bottom ten,
Speaker 1: bottom fifteen, bottom five offensive line last year, see to
Speaker 1: see what happens. And you know, I think the Houston Texans, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have them at number one here Wes and and
Speaker 1: they they if you want to make the analogy with
Speaker 1: UM with the Brett Farve situation there in the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 1: Because Jared Jones does not want Tony Romo to stay
Speaker 1: in Texas and go to another that's a little overplayed.
Speaker 1: See I don't I think have Brock or Tony Romo
Speaker 1: in Houston and then in the NFC. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't. That's the one one organization in the one
Speaker 1: owner where I wonder if that's true. I mean, I
Speaker 1: he doesn't want them sitting in there. He doesn't want
Speaker 1: to go to the NFC East or a team that's
Speaker 1: truly competitor. I get that aren't even like Dallas's competition.
Speaker 1: It would be as far as Texas fandom would be
Speaker 1: inside of Texas if Romo suddenly went that's a huge
Speaker 1: story super Bowl Tony Romo and there Tony Romo. Oh.
Speaker 1: I think Jerry Jones behind really likes Tony Romo, and
Speaker 1: I really think he doesn't want him in the NFC.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the Houston thing, but it's
Speaker 1: also when you hear these reports like it would be
Speaker 1: a quick commute and it'd be great for Tony, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's great for Tony Romo. Tony Romo ifn't necessarily choosing
Speaker 1: his destination. We know this is coming from Tony Romo.
Speaker 1: Does Bob McNair, who just gave is literally paying brock
Speaker 1: Oswellerer sixteen million dollars in cash this year no matter what,
Speaker 1: is he trusting the decision makers who just convinced you know,
Speaker 1: we're part of that decision to bring an Osweller. Okay,
Speaker 1: go pay another fifteen or sixteen people are acting like
Speaker 1: fitting that all under the cap is easy, Okay, making
Speaker 1: a sentence. I think you can. I think Tony Romo
Speaker 1: has made enough money where he's reached the point in
Speaker 1: his life where he's only playing for I've i've I
Speaker 1: think you can get him to accept eight or nine
Speaker 1: million or what there's been talking from from you know,
Speaker 1: the insiders and whatnot, that he wants a raise, he
Speaker 1: wants more money. I don't think he's taken a dot.
Speaker 1: I don't think Romo, if this is your last couple
Speaker 1: of chances to make money, and that's I mean, you
Speaker 1: have to have a priority. What is your priority, winning
Speaker 1: a championship or make money? I think if it's make money,
Speaker 1: then then you can't take the position that you don't
Speaker 1: want to play for the Bears or Bills or rebuilding
Speaker 1: team that is probably think you could do both. He
Speaker 1: probably thinks he can make money and pick a contender
Speaker 1: or get to it. And maybe we have no idea.
Speaker 1: We're obviously just guessing. I don't know how Bob McNair
Speaker 1: and Rick Smith, but especially Bob McNair feels about that.
Speaker 1: It's just an extraordinary example that you can't find really
Speaker 1: another that ever happening in NFL history, that they're paying
Speaker 1: two guys at the exact same position top level money.
Speaker 1: I don't expect him to pay Romo top level money.
Speaker 1: He's not. He's making if he's starting, he's making fifteen
Speaker 1: million games. Even if he doesn't change his salary. He's
Speaker 1: one of the lowest page starting quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And also, you haven't seen this in history because the
Speaker 1: NFL salary cap has never been one hundred sixty eight
Speaker 1: million dollars. They they're a little tighter to the cap
Speaker 1: than That's one advantaged Denver and I guess you know
Speaker 1: Buffalo and other teams have is the Texans are a
Speaker 1: little tighter to the cap even even despite you know,
Speaker 1: even if you ignore that Oswalders getting on that. By
Speaker 1: the way, Dan, it was only about eighty two days
Speaker 1: ago that Greg released his Tony Romo's post Cowboys landing spots.
Speaker 1: Now West has one in the books that means that
Speaker 1: this drags you and I. You and I will be
Speaker 1: next lone of us will be right in the next
Speaker 1: version of this. It's gonna be happy happening, and it is.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Tony Romo, Mark, you said all the things
Speaker 1: you're excited about to cover this offseason, and you you
Speaker 1: pointed out that Tony Romo you were not excited. I
Speaker 1: think was the wording that was written. So this segment
Speaker 1: has probably been pretty tough on you know. I think
Speaker 1: this was handled with class um and I think I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what else. If if he goes to a
Speaker 1: team that makes a boring team exciting, that's good for everyone.
Speaker 1: I don't want it to be this. There's ways it
Speaker 1: could be very tedious. The way they covered Tony Romo
Speaker 1: breathlessly from the sideline during every Cowboys game last season,
Speaker 1: that's what come over that. I'm over that as well.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, and uh West. You could check out West's
Speaker 1: uh piece at NFL dot com slash Westling you want
Speaker 1: to see the whole list. Is there anything else you
Speaker 1: wanted to add West that we haven't touched on before
Speaker 1: we go? Despite Greg's efforts to the contrary, I'm kind
Speaker 1: of love that. I love that qualifier. Go. I'm kind
Speaker 1: of excited about the state of quarterback play in the NFL.
Speaker 1: You know, Greg's trying to get Nick Foles and Mike
Speaker 1: Glennon jobs. I'm trying to get Tony Romo and Jimmy
Speaker 1: Garoppolo job after they didn't really add on a limb
Speaker 1: of course they're having on the point is hate mark.
Speaker 1: You take those two and then you throw in Jake
Speaker 1: Cutler is one of the top thirty quarterbacks in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Three guys who didn't start last year. You throw them
Speaker 1: onto new teams. Maybe we'll see he's twenty five. In
Speaker 1: your piece, he dropped five spots. Yeah, I can't. I
Speaker 1: can't stomach him in the top five spots. Since what's today?
Speaker 1: Today's the twenty one? You wrote this on the tent
Speaker 1: he dropped. Where will it be a month from now?
Speaker 1: Tyrode to Tyrode could be changed. I mean, you're not
Speaker 1: adding him to the mix, but I think he could
Speaker 1: be changing I still think the Bills have a d
Speaker 1: have a better chance than people think. For Romo would
Speaker 1: be their chances at zero point zero, then the Jets
Speaker 1: are truly in the nether world. So you think only
Speaker 1: three teams even have a chance because you think Romo
Speaker 1: is going anywhere whether you're not a contender, and I
Speaker 1: don't think the Bills are close to being a content.
Speaker 1: I hate the idea of watching Tony Romo on a cold,
Speaker 1: uh early October day in western New York, lying on
Speaker 1: the turf writhing for a two and six Bills team.
Speaker 1: It's I just you know, yeah, you're Tony Romo. You've
Speaker 1: got I think Tony Romo has been his like number
Speaker 1: one move. You got one or two years left in
Speaker 1: the NFL, and you're gonna purposely go to the Patriots division.
Speaker 1: My my, my thought is we don't. There's many different
Speaker 1: possibilities here. I don't you think one of them is
Speaker 1: that Tony Romo doesn't really have many options that he
Speaker 1: has to choose between bad options because I think the
Speaker 1: retirement is a much preferable I think that a trump card.
Speaker 1: Um do you you never go full Rex, which is
Speaker 1: you have the choice to get out of Tom Brady's division,
Speaker 1: and you stay in that, you don't go, you don't go. Alright,
Speaker 1: before we go, let's check behind the glass and check
Speaker 1: in with Kevin Danger hands Us. And we've been speculating
Speaker 1: where will Tony Romo end up? But now Kevin hands
Speaker 1: Us behind the glass will give us the definitive answer
Speaker 1: where Romo play football? If at all? In let's get
Speaker 1: a little uh timpani drum, Tony Romo we'll play for
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. That is a shocker, that makes that
Speaker 1: is fascinating. Wow, how about that? Talk about the US
Speaker 1: over the danger. You're sure of this with great confidence.
Speaker 1: I can say everyone's gonna think you actually talk like that.
Speaker 1: That's fine. No, I can say with confidence that Tony
Speaker 1: Romo will play for Cincinnati Bengals. I'm looking for to
Speaker 1: put a sandwich on that. I want to put a
Speaker 1: sandwich on that. I'm looking like to live in a
Speaker 1: world where there are no repercussions. I'm looking forward to,
Speaker 1: uh the Romo Dalton Bengals Brown's matchup this year. That
Speaker 1: would be good. Oh Dalton starting for the Brown. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: of course he was gonna burn all trickle down effects. Absolutely, Wow,
Speaker 1: there you go. That was quite a bold prediction that
Speaker 1: actually would be fascinating and makes sense. And if he
Speaker 1: gets it right, none of us in this room ever
Speaker 1: right a Landing Spots column ever again, we just sent
Speaker 1: it right to danger. No, we just set up a
Speaker 1: studio in Kevin's Brooklyn apartment and he does the show
Speaker 1: from that one. I loved that Mark has found logic
Speaker 1: in dangerous prediction. Why not talk about a team that
Speaker 1: needs they could they could say we got Tony Romo.
Speaker 1: It puts this Bengals team that's always on the fringe
Speaker 1: right over the time about and Andy Dalton is such
Speaker 1: a nice guy, he won't pout about it. I say,
Speaker 1: you keep him there as your backup. Romo's that. Let's
Speaker 1: say Romo stays healthy, you're flying. You're flying to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl in Minneapolis. And if he, if he doesn't
Speaker 1: stay healthy, you got older. They got the glowing ginger
Speaker 1: man coming off the bench. And still you'll lose a
Speaker 1: playoff game in January, but you still have a nice season.
Speaker 1: So we're talking ourselves into this. Kevin had with a
Speaker 1: lot of let's not point out that, you know, Tony
Speaker 1: Room has barely been able to stay on the field
Speaker 1: for two straight years. Dalton has been a quarterback lands
Speaker 1: somewhere that no one predicted around here. They do have
Speaker 1: a lot of cap room and they have an owner
Speaker 1: has been known to do some unusual things. Danger had
Speaker 1: a premonition and we'll see if it will see if
Speaker 1: it plays out. All right, that's UH Tuesday Show. We'll
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