Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is searching for Tom Brady's jersey.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Jnsis and I am joined by
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and
Speaker 1: Greg Rosato. What's up, boys? Hey Dan back in Culver
Speaker 1: City from Houston altogether as a group our first show
Speaker 1: since the Super Bowl fifty one uh super podcast, which
Speaker 1: by the way, is the number one downloaded podcast in
Speaker 1: the history of NFL media. So thank you to everyone
Speaker 1: who said, hey, I want an informed hot take on
Speaker 1: one of the greatest games in Super Bowl history. Let
Speaker 1: me go to some fu Saucy White. How many downloads?
Speaker 1: I don't like to say the number, it's just a lot.
Speaker 1: Is informed hot take an oxy moron? Uh No, Actually,
Speaker 1: I think you can have a hot take that's logical.
Speaker 1: And this is my opinion, this is the most downloaded
Speaker 1: by far. This is like, this is like a three
Speaker 1: lead except you know, we're not blowing this like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's never coming back super Bowl like the Mash Series finale. Rights. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean the numbers were so jarring that my first
Speaker 1: thought was technical glitch, that it's not accurate. The number
Speaker 1: is seven million down, which we are so so proud. Uh.
Speaker 1: And you know I took a couple of days off
Speaker 1: after the super Bowl, and I spent half of one
Speaker 1: of my off days fielding media requests after I broke
Speaker 1: the story on Tom Brady's jersey. Uh, that is how
Speaker 1: that is the tenor of the off season. You're that
Speaker 1: you're beginning, which is essentially Dan promoting Dan Walt Wall
Speaker 1: cut to ten thirty. This morning, guys, I gotta go
Speaker 1: upstairs and tape something. Uh. Oh is that how I talk?
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I did ask for permission
Speaker 1: that I would this morning? What happened this morning? I
Speaker 1: don't have any idea what you're referring to. Whoa what
Speaker 1: are you referring to? That felt like a slight, But
Speaker 1: this morning you said I have to go and do
Speaker 1: something for the poet. Well, but mine was not just
Speaker 1: It wasn't just a giant, one minute long SoundBite about Mark.
Speaker 1: It included it's another human being other than just myself.
Speaker 1: Is Sydney with a test to see Mark likes the
Speaker 1: shield his ego, but we all it's all there. Well,
Speaker 1: you can frame it however you'd like, speaking of Mark
Speaker 1: and his ego, he wrote a banger that we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about today. UM and I like this idea,
Speaker 1: this conceit Mark and I you know every word I enjoyed.
Speaker 1: H it is the UM storylines will be tracking and
Speaker 1: we're excited to track this offseason other than Tony Romo.
Speaker 1: Obviously that will be the dominant storyline in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways, but that is something else, including a bonus
Speaker 1: section of ten storylines I refuse to report on covious
Speaker 1: follow up question here is, Mark, is there any offseason
Speaker 1: storyline that you could possibly be excited to monitor? The
Speaker 1: word excited was a tad strong, But you know you've
Speaker 1: got a role with the the assignment as it's giving.
Speaker 1: I see it in your copy. I'm excited it is
Speaker 1: I guess it is this. It is in It is
Speaker 1: relative to Tony Romo, excited relative to Hi to do
Speaker 1: four thousand? What's not in the copy? Yes, it is?
Speaker 1: Read it in a world all right, here's the copy
Speaker 1: in a world beyond Romo. Here's what I'm excited to
Speaker 1: track this. So I think it just as you're excited,
Speaker 1: that sounds like it's in the copy. We uh we
Speaker 1: we We liked the topic so much we did a
Speaker 1: segment about it on Friday. It's gonna be on Friday's
Speaker 1: up to the Minute, and I think that's gonna be
Speaker 1: weekly that they give us a few minutes here, so
Speaker 1: people should watch up to the Minute live four o'clock.
Speaker 1: He Stern, nice plug, excellent, Greg, NFL networks, Greg Rosenthal
Speaker 1: in fact coverage Greg Rosenthal, Well, isn't up to the
Speaker 1: minute on NFL network. This is where you get this
Speaker 1: little bit from right And then you're about you guys
Speaker 1: are we're all going to be on this? So I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, does that you know? Well, you all need
Speaker 1: your own Well, hold on, let's turn it around. Do
Speaker 1: you feel a little annoyed that we're now joining you
Speaker 1: on NFL Network? I think, honestly, I think it's nice
Speaker 1: to class up the joint. I think it's cool that
Speaker 1: there's room enough on your coat tails for three of us.
Speaker 1: Actually I looked over. I peeked into Greg's cubicle when
Speaker 1: the news broke we'll be doing this. He was just
Speaker 1: grinding his teeth. He was so angry. All right, so
Speaker 1: we'll be talking about those offseason storylines to track. We
Speaker 1: are going to um settle up our sandwich props. I
Speaker 1: don't remember that whose voice was that? That was a professional.
Speaker 1: I went searching through the archives. That was a good one.
Speaker 1: We're gonna settle that up. I'm actually thrown off by that. Uh.
Speaker 1: The you know, all season we were tracking the best
Speaker 1: radio and television calls of the season. We now we
Speaker 1: have whittled that down. It was originally gonna be a
Speaker 1: top ten, and some of them didn't pass the smell
Speaker 1: test when we revisited them, you know, outside of the moment,
Speaker 1: to say the least, and we settled on a top
Speaker 1: five calls. But I'm feeling really good about the top
Speaker 1: five calls, the good calls. They were thoroughly vetted. But
Speaker 1: I would say most of the room is very excited
Speaker 1: about this segment. I turned to Greg. He's just nodding
Speaker 1: his head. Very good for podcasts. Well, I thought, yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to go to the whole
Speaker 1: bit of you know, west. That wasn't the most especially
Speaker 1: number five, But we'll get to that. Uh, and we'll
Speaker 1: touch on the sound effects on the Patriots win over
Speaker 1: the Falcons and Super Bowl fifty one. Chris Wesling wrote
Speaker 1: a Banker there. But before we do any of that,
Speaker 1: let's start with the news. And to do that, we
Speaker 1: checked behind the Glass with New Money. Uh so good
Speaker 1: to see her again, the first lady of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. How are you Money? Good? Hey guys,
Speaker 1: missed you missed? You too? Missed my board? How did
Speaker 1: do everything? Post? Last week? Was terrible? Wearing a cool
Speaker 1: Around the NFL shirt? Right? Sorry? Yeah, I got some swag. Yeah,
Speaker 1: big things happened while we were gone. Big thanks for
Speaker 1: staying up till about two pm, if not later three pm,
Speaker 1: three am in the am. That happened on the night
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl show. I mean, you know, that's
Speaker 1: how you get sacrifice, That's how you get up a
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore. But I mean that's all. I mean. It wasn't.
Speaker 1: It wasn't. I'm sure. Why are you about to Why
Speaker 1: are you about to marginalize what I know? I'm not.
Speaker 1: All I'm gonna say is I will never forget Mark
Speaker 1: Sessler showing up at the airport still in his suit
Speaker 1: from the night before at seven in the morning or whatnot? After? Well,
Speaker 1: you just left my hotel room. Well that's I wish
Speaker 1: I had. Do you guys? Drink you were there, PEPSI
Speaker 1: all right, let's do some news Francisco. That's fun to say.
Speaker 1: Let's start in San Francisco where a new brain trust
Speaker 1: is in place. Kyle Shanahan, who was most recently seen
Speaker 1: UM blowing the Super Bowl with the rest of the
Speaker 1: Atlanta and UH, listen, just let's keep it real around here.
Speaker 1: John Lynch, to the new general manager, who was UH
Speaker 1: an analyst for Fox a couple of months ago or
Speaker 1: last week, actually saw him at media Night doing some
Speaker 1: media stuff. Now he's at GM. That's interesting. So the
Speaker 1: two men were on a daist together discussing the new
Speaker 1: direction of the San Francisco forty Niners. Jed York was
Speaker 1: also on hand, the team owner UH. He was quoted saying,
Speaker 1: I believe in these guys. We aren't where we want
Speaker 1: to be where a two team to win team right now,
Speaker 1: and we need to make sure these guys have everything
Speaker 1: they need to get up and running. And I believe
Speaker 1: in these guys, and I believe they're going to be
Speaker 1: here a lot longer than that. Well, you better be right,
Speaker 1: because six year contracts are not that up common and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: One of the questions that came from the Bay Area Press,
Speaker 1: which is not happy with the forty Niners regime, was
Speaker 1: about Kyle Shannon, who was the offensive coordinator of the Falcons, who,
Speaker 1: as I said, we're not able to close out the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And there was a report out there after
Speaker 1: the game that Kyle Shanahan admitted that he thought he
Speaker 1: blew the Super Bowl. Uh, And he was asked about
Speaker 1: that in his opening presser with the Niners. You know,
Speaker 1: when you're the coordinator of an offense or you're the
Speaker 1: head coach of a team, UM, you're responsible for what
Speaker 1: happens out there. And I did believe we had a
Speaker 1: very good chance to win that game, especially at the end,
Speaker 1: and we didn't get it done. UM. In terms of
Speaker 1: when you use the words I blew it, I don't
Speaker 1: look at it that way. I believe miss an opportunity,
Speaker 1: and you know, we didn't get it done. I'll go
Speaker 1: back through every play through that for for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life. Thoughts, gentlemen on the beginning of a
Speaker 1: new era in San Francisco. I thought he came across
Speaker 1: in the press conference like he did with the media
Speaker 1: on throughout the week, which is very fourth right and impressive.
Speaker 1: And he in another answer to that question, he was
Speaker 1: very forthright, saying, look, I'm gonna relive. I'll relive every
Speaker 1: single one of those plays, uh, the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: Of course, I think there's things that we could have
Speaker 1: done differently. I would think that about any loss. But
Speaker 1: he also said I didn't coach any differently in that
Speaker 1: game than I did the rest of the year. That's
Speaker 1: how we got there. I don't think we coached scared.
Speaker 1: I don't think we played scared. You know, I'm paraphrasing
Speaker 1: a little bit here, and I think that's true. In
Speaker 1: the you wrote about it in in your Get off
Speaker 1: My Good Iron article this week, West that Shanahan, the
Speaker 1: blame that he's gotten to me has been outsized for
Speaker 1: his place in that in that collapse. I loved hearing
Speaker 1: that response from him today that that's the way he's
Speaker 1: always coached, that's the way he's going to continue to coach.
Speaker 1: And just because a bunch of couch jockeys who never
Speaker 1: watched the Falcons once all year tuned into us the game.
Speaker 1: You didn't watch the Falcons all year, You slept on
Speaker 1: the Falcons ah year, and now you want to criticize
Speaker 1: him for a couple of plays in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That's how he coaches. It's also why he's the best
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in the NFL and perhaps the best offensive
Speaker 1: mind in the NFL. Well, if anything, it is practice
Speaker 1: for what's to come, because you know, when you're the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator and you don't face the press for more
Speaker 1: than about a half an hour a week tops, your
Speaker 1: head coach to flex and has to handle all that,
Speaker 1: and your players do too. It was an easy season
Speaker 1: for media wise, for for for Shanahan. But now you're
Speaker 1: with San Francisco, it is it is. They have got
Speaker 1: a long rebuilding job. It's not gonna happen as quick
Speaker 1: as it did when you roll in. You have Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan is your quarterback, and Julio Jones, a wide receiver,
Speaker 1: will find out who he is. He said he hoped
Speaker 1: that he would have he had he hoped he had
Speaker 1: six Julio Jones on this team, but that's not the case.
Speaker 1: A lot of work to do and the team that
Speaker 1: he left, Atlanta Falcons, a major shake up there because
Speaker 1: of course they have to replace Kyle Shanahan, and they
Speaker 1: do that naming Steve Sarkasian the new offensive coordinator. Sarksian
Speaker 1: who had a tumultuous era at USC is the head coach,
Speaker 1: undermined by some personal problems, later moved on to Alabama.
Speaker 1: Was briefly their play caller in their BCS title game
Speaker 1: while they got rid of the BCS. I think it
Speaker 1: was the College Football Playoff title game loss uh To
Speaker 1: They lost to Clemson. The Clemson they got the Tigers
Speaker 1: seth Ryan's team. Um, he is now the new offensive coordinators.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know Clemson as the team.
Speaker 1: Rex changed his truck from Bills to Clemson Colors. Look
Speaker 1: we're around the NFL podcast You so Sarkas and takes
Speaker 1: over as the o C of the Falcons and showing
Speaker 1: you what a savage business the NFL is. Richard Smith
Speaker 1: um is no longer the defensive coordinator to the Falcon.
Speaker 1: So you go from three late in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: people saying, what a genius scheme you you you planned up?
Speaker 1: Maybe you you're you got head coach written all over you.
Speaker 1: Now you're out. Defensive coordinator Richard Smith is being replaced
Speaker 1: with defensive line oh was being replaced, while defensive line
Speaker 1: coach Brian Cox is being let go by the team.
Speaker 1: A team source informed of the moves. Told rap Sheet
Speaker 1: on Wednesday, Smith could stay on in the Falcons and
Speaker 1: an advisory role greg, but it is the end of
Speaker 1: his tenure as the d C. And that's just wild
Speaker 1: to think how savage the NFL can be. You gotta
Speaker 1: think they were gonna make these moves regardless, which is weird.
Speaker 1: But talk about moving fast. I mean, when when Robert
Speaker 1: Alford's running down the field for that pick six, it's
Speaker 1: Brian Cox who's holding back Dan Quinn and then they
Speaker 1: end up kind of embracing and jumping up and down
Speaker 1: and in a you know, the day later, he's without
Speaker 1: a job. I mean, I think the on the offensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball, which is we're probably more concerned
Speaker 1: with what's gonna happen to last year's offense that, by
Speaker 1: all indication in instead of trying to bring in Chip
Speaker 1: Kelly and have him do something that's not akin to
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly. Sarkisian I talked to Chase Goodbread from seven
Speaker 1: on Our Sight and he basically said, you're gonna see
Speaker 1: an offense that's similar because they Sarkisian maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit more into the running game, but loves running back screens.
Speaker 1: He's aggressive with certain past concepts that are similar to
Speaker 1: Shanahan's and they said today it's gonna be a similar offense.
Speaker 1: We're not going to depart from what we did. That's
Speaker 1: the best news for Falcons fans. You don't want to
Speaker 1: try to change what happened. The talent is there, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna keep his own running scheme. That's good. They're
Speaker 1: gonna just to what the talent is. Right. But he's
Speaker 1: he's never coached in the NFL. It's an extreme I mean,
Speaker 1: he did, I believe for he was a quarterback coach
Speaker 1: of the Raiders in two thousand four. If he was
Speaker 1: a player, he would have major red flags. He basically, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you have sympathy for a man that struggled
Speaker 1: with addiction, but he almost kind of you know, helped
Speaker 1: ruin his career on some level because of that. And
Speaker 1: he just was at Alabama for a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: and left the job because he didn't get along with
Speaker 1: his boss. So to me, it's it's a very risky higher.
Speaker 1: There's no reason to believe that this is this is
Speaker 1: gonna work out. Smoothie reminds me of Bobby Petrino. May
Speaker 1: be it's a bridge higher because you're so late in
Speaker 1: the year that you don't get the guy you want.
Speaker 1: But also they, you know, Peak, Harold dan Quinn and
Speaker 1: Sarkasian are all friends and that's how this business. Let's
Speaker 1: move on and talk about the Arizona Cardinals that getting
Speaker 1: the band back together one last ride out of Carson
Speaker 1: Palmer confirmed Thursday that he would return for a fifteen
Speaker 1: NFL season. UH. He's now thirty seven years old. He
Speaker 1: told the team's official website that he wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure that he was physically ready for another uh NFL season.
Speaker 1: This comes a week after Larry Fitzgerald informed the public
Speaker 1: that he would come back for another season. So that
Speaker 1: both of key players in Arizona's offense are back and
Speaker 1: Chris Westling. Uh. Do you believe that this is amazing
Speaker 1: news for the Cardinals who view themselves as a contender?
Speaker 1: But are they really? They are a contender and if
Speaker 1: not for a few breaks, would have been in the
Speaker 1: playoffs this year. Who knows what happens once you can
Speaker 1: get in the playoffs. Carson Palmer played the best ball
Speaker 1: of the season in December. At the end of the year,
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald was one of the best slot receivers in
Speaker 1: the league. That is excellent news. They have some decisions
Speaker 1: on defense, especially with three key free agents Chandler Jones,
Speaker 1: clay As Campbell, and Tony Jefferson. So this is a
Speaker 1: team that believes it's in a super Bowl window. They
Speaker 1: just have to make some really good decisions this offseason.
Speaker 1: They're in that window. This is great news. And I
Speaker 1: think you could you could win a super Bowl with
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer if he played like he played he If
Speaker 1: you want to get people on Twitter, Upset mentioned that
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer played well the last half of the season
Speaker 1: because everyone's like, no, you ruined my fantasy team. I got.
Speaker 1: I got a million responses, same people who right away, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know I and really enjoyed all or nothing
Speaker 1: last year with Cardinals getting to know that team better
Speaker 1: they had. They had a rough year last year, so
Speaker 1: I think it makes sense you put them. See if
Speaker 1: the old band can still play the guitar mark I
Speaker 1: like that. That was well done. Moving on, the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame voted in their two thousand seventeen class the
Speaker 1: whole bands playing the guitar. It's a very strange, very
Speaker 1: guitar oriented. Uh, no bass player, Uh, no drummer, no singer.
Speaker 1: Just all. I mean, let's keep going with this. What's
Speaker 1: the next chapter in this bit? Can we keep? Is
Speaker 1: there another angle we can come from? Potentially? All right, Marco,
Speaker 1: let's talk some Hall of Fame, you know, comedy umbudsman.
Speaker 1: You're a right, I mean, Mark wants to get out
Speaker 1: of here. He's already looking at the cloud at all,
Speaker 1: not at all. Let's keep the listener engaged. Ladanian Tomlinson,
Speaker 1: the headliner of the two thousand seventeen Pro Football Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame class revealed Saturday at NFL Honors, which Greg
Speaker 1: gets goose bumps just thinking about being at that event
Speaker 1: for another year. Uh. The other uh inductees Kurt Warner, Terrell,
Speaker 1: Davis Kenny Easily, Jason Taylor, Morton Anderson, and Cowboys owner
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones notably snubbed your boy, Greg Terrell owens he's
Speaker 1: my boy. I mean, I'm not the one who wrote
Speaker 1: a banger about him. This West West fields stronger than like.
Speaker 1: I think he should have been a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 1: I think they have questionable decisions every year. Some good players. Wait,
Speaker 1: it's just as outrageous to me that Tory Holt is
Speaker 1: not in the finalists, even as t O didn't make it,
Speaker 1: So they're they're punishing to him. From what we've heard
Speaker 1: from for ex coaches and teammates, basically burying Teo behind
Speaker 1: the scenes that they've been ranning almost like talking to
Speaker 1: his ex you know, players and team teammates and coaches
Speaker 1: that they've been anti companied. That is some petty stuff.
Speaker 1: If that's what's actually happening, is the definition of petty.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. And Tory Holt fine, he had a good career.
Speaker 1: He's not a guy where with the eye test. You know,
Speaker 1: Terrell Owens is a Hall of Famer, you know, right
Speaker 1: off the bet he's one of the best players in
Speaker 1: the history of football. Tory hole is a borderline Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer. He was really good. He was never the
Speaker 1: best receiver in the NFL like t O was. This
Speaker 1: is ridicul this and they want to talk about how
Speaker 1: teams couldn't wait to get rid of him. This isn't
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall where they were like, oh, maybe we can
Speaker 1: salvage a third round pick for him. Teams were lining
Speaker 1: up to get t O as much as they were
Speaker 1: running up to get rid of them. That is ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I don't like that at all. I'm with you, and
Speaker 1: let's not act like t O would be the first
Speaker 1: person that got into the Hall of Fame with some
Speaker 1: personality issues along the way as a player. I mean,
Speaker 1: let Charles Haley deserved to be in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: no questions asked, and had to wait a long time
Speaker 1: because of this kind of stuff. You have Andre Reid
Speaker 1: and the Hall of Fame. Good player, not a better
Speaker 1: player than Terrell Owens. You've already blown it. You got
Speaker 1: to get him in there, and it's just a farce
Speaker 1: and a joke that carries on for another year and
Speaker 1: and might carry on further than that based on the
Speaker 1: fact they didn't make the final ten. I mean the
Speaker 1: surprising thing. And when people complain about the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 1: you always want to say, well, who are you taking
Speaker 1: out of this class? This year probably wouldn't have been
Speaker 1: that tough you take out Morton Anderson. Um. I think
Speaker 1: it was a year where there weren't as many locks,
Speaker 1: and it felt like year it's like, let's get in
Speaker 1: some of these guys, because if you start looking at
Speaker 1: the next few years, it starts being loaded. I think
Speaker 1: Terrell Davis and Kurt Warner were two guys that have
Speaker 1: kind of been waiting. They're very well liked and in
Speaker 1: sometimes with these years in the Hall of fame's like,
Speaker 1: let's put these guys in now before it's too late.
Speaker 1: And all due respect to Morton Anderson, who played his
Speaker 1: position very well for many, many years, but he is
Speaker 1: not a more vital, important, charismatic, productive player than Terrell
Speaker 1: Owens was for the long career that he Well, I
Speaker 1: don't get's fair to put those I see what you're saying,
Speaker 1: but like if you're gonna put if kickers are going
Speaker 1: to get in, and I think they should Morton Anderson,
Speaker 1: it's easy to forget about these guys. Morton Anderson played
Speaker 1: for like my entire life up until I was in
Speaker 1: college almost, so that's to me, that's not I'd rather
Speaker 1: that's like Kurt Warner getting in because he defined the
Speaker 1: NFL for a couple of those years. He won two
Speaker 1: m v p s, whereas Morton Anderson was like a
Speaker 1: B plus kicker B plus for that just played for
Speaker 1: twenty five years. He was better than B plus if
Speaker 1: you think about the reason Halls of fame exist, you
Speaker 1: cannot tell the story. Just like in baseball, you don't
Speaker 1: have the home run King or the hit King and
Speaker 1: your Hall of Fame. You cannot tell the story of
Speaker 1: baseball without either of those guys. You can you can
Speaker 1: tell the story of football without Morton Anderson. You can't
Speaker 1: tell the story football without Tarall Lewins. Moving on, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: good talk there. Guys really enjoyed that Jason Taylor and
Speaker 1: Kenny knew we needed to get past the Hall of Fame. Second,
Speaker 1: Jason Taylor and Kenny Easily are just like, what do
Speaker 1: we gotta do to get a little attention? Mark and
Speaker 1: I both tell you Mark and I both love the
Speaker 1: Kenny Easily pick when we were watching in the eighties
Speaker 1: was a better player than Ronny Lot. He shouldn't have had,
Speaker 1: Like he's almost a comparable player to maybe not quite
Speaker 1: a little six or seven years, but that he was
Speaker 1: a first team All Pro four or five times. It's
Speaker 1: crazy yet to wait. It's like the safety version of GAYL. Sayers.
Speaker 1: It's a big win. And this this will bring it
Speaker 1: around to Eastball. Dan. I know you love them. You
Speaker 1: know I am the defender of the hard ball. It's a.
Speaker 1: It's a year for great brilliant primes over the compilers.
Speaker 1: We don't need the cilers. That's right. Roll Davis is in.
Speaker 1: I get it, partner, and easy brilliance is always better
Speaker 1: than that. Let's a little oh this is fun, well
Speaker 1: not for the men involved with this the release round up.
Speaker 1: I'll start with the Green Bay Packers, who part part
Speaker 1: ways with both running back James Starks and cornerback Sam
Speaker 1: Shields West any surprise there, not one bit. James Starks
Speaker 1: is nearing the end, maybe maybe if his legs come back,
Speaker 1: but Sam Shields had concussion issues the entire season, he
Speaker 1: might not ever play again. Maybe this clears the way
Speaker 1: for Eddie Lacy returning to Well McCarthy wants him back.
Speaker 1: We'll see if ted Toms they need some cornerbacks there.
Speaker 1: They're still recovering from that playoff last and the sick
Speaker 1: burn from Jordan's peel at the NFL Honors Award against
Speaker 1: the Packers the secondary who will ever forget it? By
Speaker 1: the way, what wasn't all time best host of the
Speaker 1: old NFL Honors, Not that there's been that many, Get
Speaker 1: off Al Baldwin's subjective. It wasn't even close. Wasn't even
Speaker 1: close anyway? What was the sick burn? If I could
Speaker 1: remember it exactly here, here is the sick burn. The
Speaker 1: playoffs got really great ratings this year. They really did.
Speaker 1: For instance, the NFC Championship was watched by forties six
Speaker 1: million people and the Packers secondary. All right, now let's
Speaker 1: react as if we had heard it. Glorious. Wow to
Speaker 1: quote Mark Sessler, excellent showmanship. You weren't wrong, Greg, You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. All right, Josh McCown released by
Speaker 1: the Browns. Uh, it didn't work out for Josh was
Speaker 1: always hurt and uh then here comes the predictable bit. Uh,
Speaker 1: there's the quarterback of the Jets. Good one. I hope not,
Speaker 1: because he's always hurt and he's not that good and
Speaker 1: he's old. Well, if there is going to be, as
Speaker 1: we mentioned on our NFL Network segment of potential bidding
Speaker 1: war for Jimmy Garoppolo, I think there'll be a little
Speaker 1: bit of a bidding war in coaching staffs to get
Speaker 1: Josh McCown. Is it's a quarterback coach. While you laugh,
Speaker 1: but uh, it is someone that has been talked about
Speaker 1: by multiple guys out there as a coach in the making.
Speaker 1: He was a coach as a coach. He wants to play.
Speaker 1: That's why he's leaving Cleveland. Well, he'll he'll play for there.
Speaker 1: But but if he can't get a job or if
Speaker 1: he doesn't like that and he is going to be
Speaker 1: a valued coach, good coach in the NFL. I got
Speaker 1: a plan the Browns franchise McCown like that and then
Speaker 1: trade him for a first round pick. I mean, that
Speaker 1: would be great if that's how you went. Franchise a
Speaker 1: guy you've just released. Well, no, you you take that back,
Speaker 1: you pull it off the wire. Franchise him, make him
Speaker 1: a top five paid quarterback. Because what you franchise somebody?
Speaker 1: You can trade him, right you could? I mean you
Speaker 1: tag and you know, Dan, this is not for your
Speaker 1: front office. Uh, you know, potential work speaking of it,
Speaker 1: you know annual bit. Uh, you know you've got your
Speaker 1: gradual decline of Tom Brady. Eventually you'll be right about
Speaker 1: inverse of that bit though, is Chris Wesley's Ash mccount
Speaker 1: will eventually be good again. Bit. And that's I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's gonna end up being true. There are
Speaker 1: two things going in opposite directions. But both creating uh
Speaker 1: moving ONSH McCown still a better quarterback than some quarterbacks
Speaker 1: who start in the end of the player. I'm sorry
Speaker 1: you missed the Blake Bortles and brock Osweller seasons this year. Uh.
Speaker 1: Justin Gilbert another former Brown. Uh he has been let
Speaker 1: go by the Pittsburgh Steelers a short, uneventful stay there.
Speaker 1: And is this another former Brown Quell Jackson? Um he
Speaker 1: is no longer with the Cults. Uh. They were. They
Speaker 1: cut the linebacker after he signed for a nice amount
Speaker 1: of money. I believe in two thousand fourteen, now thirty
Speaker 1: three years old. One thing Joe Thomas I thought had
Speaker 1: the best way to sum up Justin Gilbert's career in
Speaker 1: Cleveland and Pittsburgh, he tweeted. And Joe Thomas, by the way,
Speaker 1: not holding back on Twitter or in general with his comments.
Speaker 1: I like his honest. He said, if you don't like football,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how talented you are, your star will
Speaker 1: burn out quick. And Justin Gilbert was so poorly scouted
Speaker 1: by the Browns that they never actually met in person
Speaker 1: to find out where his passion level was. And that's
Speaker 1: why that team is picking first in the draft right
Speaker 1: now there you go. And finally in the news um
Speaker 1: in Transfer of power, news Bob Costas being replaced by
Speaker 1: Mike Tariko, my boy as NBC's Olympics host. Uh. That
Speaker 1: ends a Costas tenure. Mark pay special attention. Uh that
Speaker 1: spends way back to ninety two as the Olympics guy,
Speaker 1: but into the eighties with NBC. And here is a
Speaker 1: statement from Costas, who's handled this pretty well. I believe
Speaker 1: it has been both a privilege and an incredible personal
Speaker 1: and professional experience to have been part of NBC's Olympic
Speaker 1: coverage all these years. I'm especially appreciative of all the
Speaker 1: talented and dedicated people I worked for and with on
Speaker 1: those broadcasts. Class act Mark as he steps to the
Speaker 1: shadows forever. Well, he has no bigger fan than Mike Tarko. Well,
Speaker 1: well no, but but I think the thing is that
Speaker 1: here he reminds me a little bit of at the
Speaker 1: end of Al Davis's career, when when everyone went click
Speaker 1: baity and like, look how terrible Al Davis looks and
Speaker 1: what a joke he is, and his actual the substance
Speaker 1: of his career completely forgotten unless you were of a
Speaker 1: certain age, and he remembered the bulk of his work.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you why, because everyone all the time
Speaker 1: he's he's an easy target, and I get it. But
Speaker 1: Bob Costas was one of the youngest people ever hired
Speaker 1: to announce Major League Baseball. He blew it out of
Speaker 1: the park. He did a great job. He was one
Speaker 1: of the better broadcasters of all time. I don't think
Speaker 1: I grew up watching him. And I know the four
Speaker 1: of us like to three of us out of the
Speaker 1: flour like a joke about it. West doesn't. West thinks
Speaker 1: it's idiotic, but well, West is mystified by it, understandably.
Speaker 1: I I honestly think that guys like Costas, guys like
Speaker 1: Al Michael, some of these guys that are at the
Speaker 1: end of their career, a lot of people in sports
Speaker 1: media journalism would not be here if it were not
Speaker 1: the prime of their careers and what we and in
Speaker 1: how they made you love sports more. Bob Costas I
Speaker 1: grew up, I loved football more because of what he
Speaker 1: did on NFL, NFL Live back on NBC and the
Speaker 1: whole crew of them. So to me, yes, maybe I
Speaker 1: overvalue him now his late work, but I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: sitting here if it weren't for a collection of those guys, Marv, Albert,
Speaker 1: the rest of them. They're all in cahoots. They love
Speaker 1: each other because they know that they are good at
Speaker 1: what they do. I love the analogy because Bob Costas
Speaker 1: is a luminary in the broadcasting business, just like Al
Speaker 1: Davis is one of the greatest figures in NFL history.
Speaker 1: Now I'm picturing Bob Costas drafting JaMarcus Russell and Rolando
Speaker 1: mclayan and then Marry and Lane Kiffin in a press conference.
Speaker 1: Do you I'm gonna I'm gonna write the blog post
Speaker 1: about Mark's speech and it will say Cessler Colan Costas.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is Greg gregg Is. This is classic.
Speaker 1: This is classic, like minor league post millennial nonsense from
Speaker 1: Greg who basically has never ever appreciated Costs because he
Speaker 1: he didn't you know what good? Did it? Good for you? Greg?
Speaker 1: NFL Networks, Greg Rosenthal telling us how broadcasts this like
Speaker 1: a like a late period Al Davis. That's that's the
Speaker 1: head you. I I feel sorry for you, Greg that
Speaker 1: you cannot appreciate what Bob cost Is brought to the
Speaker 1: world of sports. Well, he's not leaving, he said he's
Speaker 1: taking out a time. This is the right time. Well,
Speaker 1: Tom Brokaw, who's on television about once every eighty days,
Speaker 1: right now, it is the right time. And and NBC
Speaker 1: had enough foresight to bring in what is the best
Speaker 1: broadcaster of today. They're going from best to best. This
Speaker 1: is this is Manning to Luck, this is Montana to
Speaker 1: Steve Young. Do you do you still think that slice
Speaker 1: me off a piece of that, Jake Bristy? Do you
Speaker 1: still think that somebody is a bigger bobcast to spend
Speaker 1: thing you though? After that? I I appreciate him. I
Speaker 1: I it's maybe it's because I'm a little bit older
Speaker 1: than than some of you guys, Like I don't I
Speaker 1: understand the I love costas well. I've never detected that
Speaker 1: on any level from you. But well that's breaking news.
Speaker 1: Now he's breaking some news that I mean, I just
Speaker 1: feel that it's just utterly on the on the inside.
Speaker 1: Um no, I not his not late period Costs right
Speaker 1: on the soapbox talking about gun control during Sunday night football, right,
Speaker 1: you know that stuff. And that's why that stuffs from
Speaker 1: like we have to move on. But that stuff is
Speaker 1: was was fine in the nine eighties and early nineties,
Speaker 1: and and what happened with him, And it's going to
Speaker 1: happen to all four of us at some point too.
Speaker 1: If it's not already happening, is you're not moving on
Speaker 1: with the time, You're you're stuck at a certain period.
Speaker 1: Those soapbox things don't fly with of the audience now
Speaker 1: they did back in well exactly, things move on without
Speaker 1: you if you don't adapt all right, less you wrote
Speaker 1: a banger. What's about the uh NFL network in conjunction
Speaker 1: with NFL films their sound effects, they wire up players
Speaker 1: for many games during the season, but none there are
Speaker 1: no more wires, the most wires, I should say. Come
Speaker 1: on that final Sunday in February and you had some
Speaker 1: takeaways from the sound effects edition of Super Bowl. I
Speaker 1: must confess that when David Eally put this assignment on
Speaker 1: my desk, I thought, I've never even seen the show
Speaker 1: sound Effects. I'm not trying to watch it. I guess
Speaker 1: I'll just go through the motions and write something. And
Speaker 1: you know, somebody must have said something interesting. I'll write
Speaker 1: that up. And then I kept a notebook throughout the program,
Speaker 1: and it was a masterpiece. Theater of of Football broadcast
Speaker 1: from NFL Films. I guess who who does this production?
Speaker 1: And it was the anatomy of an epic comeback. Just
Speaker 1: watching Julian ed Edelman is the star of the show,
Speaker 1: chatting throughout the game. But you get to hear from
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and there are several sound bites in here
Speaker 1: that they might give you the chills a little bit.
Speaker 1: Let's here some of them was queue it up their
Speaker 1: new money. We go through multiple channels to get things
Speaker 1: done here. Let's both scorn and when this thing baby
Speaker 1: for your mom? For your mom, bro? Who's that? That
Speaker 1: was Julian Edelman right after the Patriots win the coin tossing,
Speaker 1: turns to Tom Brady and says, for your mom, bro,
Speaker 1: I get it. I mean the mom thing. I love
Speaker 1: my mom. We all love our moms. Uh. But you
Speaker 1: know it wasn't like if he would have thrown an interception,
Speaker 1: which he very nearly did. By the way, Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: what do it mean that he let his mom down? Now? Well,
Speaker 1: I'm reigning on the frade a little bit. Let's hears
Speaker 1: something else that else West. Let me set these up
Speaker 1: that that's what that's what I was ting you're you're
Speaker 1: a pro and I totally fum still have time. Let's
Speaker 1: let's we could get this up. You down three, but
Speaker 1: you gotta come back in you Mark set it up.
Speaker 1: Here we go three. Let's hear from Tom Brady trying
Speaker 1: to rally the troops after it's the three, let's not
Speaker 1: let's that's like don for harder, tough for everything. We go.
Speaker 1: H that was good. That was good. That reminds me
Speaker 1: a lot. I'm trying to think of. It's one NFL
Speaker 1: Films clip they use all the time. I actually said
Speaker 1: it to you in the Super Bowl press box at
Speaker 1: what one time. They always use it for Brady. We gonna,
Speaker 1: we gonna lay down, we gotta fight like that. That's
Speaker 1: the Tom Brady clip that they always used. Now they
Speaker 1: can always And yeah, I saw that this morning. Actually
Speaker 1: he's stalking up and down the sideline. His teammates are
Speaker 1: sitting down, and I would think that makes a big
Speaker 1: difference when you have the king number one guy in
Speaker 1: your team. Uh A call to arms like that? What
Speaker 1: else we got, Wes? That was good. That was when
Speaker 1: the number one guy in our team, David really had
Speaker 1: me start to write an article that went a thousand
Speaker 1: words in and was never seen by another human being.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna catch on, but Kevin
Speaker 1: Patrick challenged me on my use of ankle catch for
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman's catch, so I've come up with incredileman. Okay
Speaker 1: is the name of the catch. But here's what's cool.
Speaker 1: When he as he's trying to pull it off of
Speaker 1: Robert Alford's ankle, they catch him on Mike going I
Speaker 1: caught it. I caught it while he's still in the
Speaker 1: motion of catching it. Let's hear it said. It's him
Speaker 1: and Brian Pool looking at opposing scoreboard screens, and Brian
Speaker 1: pulled the falcon cornerback. It's like, no way, no way,
Speaker 1: and he's like, no, I swear to God, I caught it.
Speaker 1: I liked it. Made me think higher of Dante high Tower,
Speaker 1: not that I didn't think high of him, but that
Speaker 1: he was really like the vocal sort of leader of
Speaker 1: that defense. And and at one point when I think
Speaker 1: it was twenty to night, and he was just like,
Speaker 1: no more, no more mistakes, no more my bads, Like
Speaker 1: we have to be perfect now, there's no there's no
Speaker 1: more margin of error at all. And that was basically
Speaker 1: the point where he gets the sack fumble. I like
Speaker 1: dot to hide tower. By the way, was that setting
Speaker 1: up your last one? No? I still set up um.
Speaker 1: He did not go to the raid because he said
Speaker 1: he's had enough of cold and wind and rain and sleet,
Speaker 1: which I get. It would be a terrible male man,
Speaker 1: by the way, and he's not going to the White House. Uh,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if that team is going to
Speaker 1: the way I was. He want some sandwiches, um, but
Speaker 1: either go to the White House for Obama either a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, so there's no political tie to that.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't want to go. He already did it
Speaker 1: with Alabama. And you have one more west right. Jackie
Speaker 1: Slater Hall of Famer and Matthew Slater's father, passionately testifying
Speaker 1: on Tom Brady's greatness. I got the best quarterback. I
Speaker 1: wish I'd talked like that. I know it's no like
Speaker 1: bar nine like a politics bring back bar none. Let's
Speaker 1: start using it all the time. I want to talk better.
Speaker 1: The best line in that whole episode, though, was most
Speaker 1: Anu was one of the guys miked up, so you
Speaker 1: see a lot of him and he's feeling his oats
Speaker 1: in the second quarter, after Robert Alford's pick six, they
Speaker 1: go up twenty one in and he says, they ain't
Speaker 1: never met nothing like this, and he's talking to Taylor
Speaker 1: Gabriel who has a nervous look in his eye, and
Speaker 1: he goes, it's Tom Brady though, oh yeah, and he
Speaker 1: goes he goes, We're gonna put forty up on them,
Speaker 1: and he and Gabriel just like we got to. Hey,
Speaker 1: if that didn't hook you in, um, here's the good
Speaker 1: news if you if you if you're upset that you
Speaker 1: missed it, this will be played seven millions this this
Speaker 1: show every year. The hour long sound effects after the
Speaker 1: super really is one of the best things NFL Films
Speaker 1: does every year. It's always awesome. And the in the
Speaker 1: saddest uh, The one that stuck with me the most
Speaker 1: from that entire show was after Jake Matthews hold after
Speaker 1: that play. You know, matt Ryan thinks he got them
Speaker 1: into field goal range again and he just goes, he goes,
Speaker 1: what the guys, He's like, did you hold? And he
Speaker 1: asked lavitre that and Lavitri is like night and and
Speaker 1: Matthews is just kind of a foot away from him
Speaker 1: not saying anything, and it was tough rewatching this game.
Speaker 1: I felt for Jake Matthews, for people that killed Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 1: I think Jake Matthews a couple of holding calls, a
Speaker 1: lot of pressures if you're if you're looking for there's
Speaker 1: a million different people that that struggled when they when
Speaker 1: they collapse. But to me, Jake Matthews, especially in that
Speaker 1: offensive line, is going to be living with that for
Speaker 1: the rest of his I'll have an end around column
Speaker 1: tomorrow about the different things that the Falcons if they
Speaker 1: just would have pulled off one of them probably would
Speaker 1: have won the Super Bowl. And Matthews sadly as a
Speaker 1: starring role because he had two holding calls, one after
Speaker 1: the onside kick after the first Patriots touched down, and
Speaker 1: then of course the killer a couple of plays after
Speaker 1: Julio is big catch in the fourth quarter. Because I
Speaker 1: love our listeners so much, look at you. I've included
Speaker 1: links to all these videos too, so if you don't
Speaker 1: get a chance to watch it on NFL network, pull
Speaker 1: out my article NFL dot Com slash Westling the sound
Speaker 1: effects article. The links are all in there to the videos.
Speaker 1: If you want to see the beautiful work West, well done.
Speaker 1: Uh so there you go, sound effects. Check it out,
Speaker 1: airing over and over this offseason on NFL Network. Now,
Speaker 1: this is the gift that keeps on punishing you. Well, Dan,
Speaker 1: you know you were out yesterday. You that was not
Speaker 1: an accident, but right, good day to be. I think
Speaker 1: it was a eight or nine times in a row
Speaker 1: with these various million football lives with the Patriots. What's
Speaker 1: it called the America's came over and over one super
Speaker 1: Bowl then fool Network. Yeah that I steered clear of
Speaker 1: that channel in my direct TV at home as well.
Speaker 1: All right, let's settle up by the way. Uh some
Speaker 1: sandwich props from Super Bowl fifty one, our annual preview show.
Speaker 1: We we do some props and um so let's go
Speaker 1: through them sandwich props. Oh my god, people really hate
Speaker 1: that drop. No, you know what happened was that is
Speaker 1: the new sandwich drop. And I'll tell you why because
Speaker 1: I got several tweets from people saying I had a
Speaker 1: turn off the podcast because the apple chomp? Do we
Speaker 1: still have that one? That was it? No? This is different, Greg,
Speaker 1: trust me, I'm the one. So this is a punishment
Speaker 1: to those of you that are so weak will that
Speaker 1: you couldn't handle the last job. This one's even more gross.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the end game is here, but
Speaker 1: that was hideous. Till you something that's a pickle being eaten.
Speaker 1: If you cross me, If I get one more tweet
Speaker 1: from somebody saying they can't handle that drop, what are
Speaker 1: we gonna do? Said something about a banana, the banana
Speaker 1: chewing drop. You don't want anything close to the banana drop.
Speaker 1: You really don't. After that, it's someone chewing on someone's
Speaker 1: human femur. I mean, where are we going with this?
Speaker 1: Don't I'm just saying, tough up. You have you pay
Speaker 1: literally nothing for this podcast. Millennials are a generation that
Speaker 1: lacks toughness, dand and maybe and you know who you
Speaker 1: are if you're listening right now and you came at
Speaker 1: me on Twitter about having to turn off the podcast,
Speaker 1: I don't know who you are, but you know who
Speaker 1: you are. All right, here we go. We'll start with
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. Mark, you finished four and five for the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, which is about where everybody else finished. None
Speaker 1: of us got anything right. Yeah, uh, here's the first one.
Speaker 1: There will be no Super Bowl fifty one winner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we all not. That did go to overtime, So there
Speaker 1: was a moment where there was you know, and of
Speaker 1: course leading up to the game, some of the uh,
Speaker 1: the unrest, social unrest around this country. It seems like
Speaker 1: you had a shot at this. A lot of people
Speaker 1: thought there was a shot, and in the end there
Speaker 1: was no shot. Okay, so that cost you three Uh
Speaker 1: your next one, Lady Gaga will do something during the
Speaker 1: halftime show that will immediately qualify as legitimate breaking news
Speaker 1: beyond the sports world. Uh and uh, this is a
Speaker 1: fun person to ask us West. We had decided that
Speaker 1: you would be the independent arbitrator on this. Did Lady
Speaker 1: Gaga do anything that really have the entire world talking? No?
Speaker 1: I mean she jumped she like she jumped off a roof,
Speaker 1: but didn't really jump off a roof. She did some
Speaker 1: spider monkey crawl. I don't you know what if she
Speaker 1: would have actually breaking news, if she would have jumped
Speaker 1: off the roof qualified No. I think something would have
Speaker 1: had to have gone wrong with jumping off the roof
Speaker 1: for it to go breaking. And that's what I just
Speaker 1: thought that you were like hinting at Gaga suffering some
Speaker 1: type of mortal injury. It's more like I feel every
Speaker 1: time I do one of these, it's like, oh, that
Speaker 1: wasn't ununique enough. So it's like I'm now just resorting
Speaker 1: to like natural disaster and like massive issues, so very strange. Uh.
Speaker 1: And here it was your big winner and it was
Speaker 1: a big one. Uh, super Bowl fifty one will go
Speaker 1: into overtime, and we discussed that, and uh, it is
Speaker 1: the finally um super Bowl that do on the first
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So you want sandwiches off both Dan and Gregg.
Speaker 1: Moving on to Greg Rosenthal, who came in under five
Speaker 1: hundred three and four. Greg, that will hurt you in
Speaker 1: the standings. Well that that's a good tease for later.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to go over all the overall standings after
Speaker 1: this is okay, Dean Lewis, will you and Bob Costas
Speaker 1: and go over how about that? Dean Lewis will finish
Speaker 1: with over one yards from scrimmage right church, wrong, pew.
Speaker 1: You know where did he finish? He had about seven
Speaker 1: yards or something like that. I mean James James White,
Speaker 1: who has a very similar role obviously basically, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the receiving back ends up getting jobbed for the m
Speaker 1: v P award. I don't know about getting jobbed. That's
Speaker 1: that's Tom Bernie or in that sucker. Let me just
Speaker 1: get I'm just saying he had. He had the most
Speaker 1: catches in Super Bowl history. He had a hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty yards, He had a game winning touchdown, He had
Speaker 1: a pretty epics just for Dean Lewis. Had twenty seven
Speaker 1: yards rushing and two yards receiving, and he got injured
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of twenty nine yards. Okay, Uh,
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan will throw for over three fifty yards. The
Speaker 1: only threw the ball twenty three times and that's what
Speaker 1: costs you, uh, seventeen completions for two four yards, which
Speaker 1: is pretty interesting. Greg, if you would have won the
Speaker 1: if the Falcons would have won that coin toss and
Speaker 1: they marched down the field, maybe you get that three fifty.
Speaker 1: You'll have to settle for a fifth Lombardi Trophy. It's
Speaker 1: not exactly like second prize to have your team when
Speaker 1: the suits I would have been that would have been tough.
Speaker 1: But I do think West for not jumping in on
Speaker 1: either one of those, so that helped me. I don't
Speaker 1: think he had a choice. Yeah. Finally, I forgot that
Speaker 1: and that was that was a bit. Finally, finally, Dan hanzs,
Speaker 1: that's me. Uh. NFL media insider Dan hands Is should say,
Speaker 1: was that a chimp in the background? At one point
Speaker 1: ask us she put it together a dolphin? A t
Speaker 1: n media insider that even the title doesn't make anything
Speaker 1: around the NFL media. None of that makes sense. Four
Speaker 1: and three, Um, the Falcons will score an opening drive touchdown,
Speaker 1: Greg and Mark took me up on that, and that
Speaker 1: didn't work out. I believe they went six and out. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then the Super Bowl fifty one winner will not
Speaker 1: have an official White House visit. And it's funny, I
Speaker 1: don't even remember this, even though it was a week ago. Greg,
Speaker 1: you did not take me on that. No, I I
Speaker 1: don't think they will, and I think it's looking good
Speaker 1: for you and I that we were right there. I
Speaker 1: would have that. I just think that with so many
Speaker 1: players not wanting to go, if half the team, if
Speaker 1: you get it to the point where it's at least
Speaker 1: half the team doesn't want to go, that's still an
Speaker 1: official visit. No, no, no, I'm saying that they'll pull out.
Speaker 1: But but but you would say, though, let's say Brady
Speaker 1: Belichick and nineteen players go that we are going to
Speaker 1: be on the joint Chiefs of Steps soon. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: congratulations on that. By the way, big win. Hey look
Speaker 1: if they yeah, they could improve things. Here comes, here
Speaker 1: comes more tweets. I haven't heard enough sandwich bites. By
Speaker 1: the way, punished, due punish. I love it. Keep keep
Speaker 1: politicscel podcast man, have fun with your new podcast. Uh
Speaker 1: that's it. So where are the standing exact? Greg and
Speaker 1: now three or four years into the race? Uh? Westling
Speaker 1: seventy five and six seventy six? Right? No, West got
Speaker 1: one right because West took Mark on the super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Will have a winner? So okay, well that Steven Stephen,
Speaker 1: this is the all time winner. This this does count
Speaker 1: counts counting the Super Bowl? Uh, Mark, I guess would
Speaker 1: be bringing up the rear of the four of us
Speaker 1: at sixty two and sixty eight. Yeah. I've had quite
Speaker 1: a comeback, but I was just awful out of it.
Speaker 1: Shows with the less wins and losses, you just don't
Speaker 1: jump in as much you're back. It reflects the early
Speaker 1: stage my play. Not to say that, I I mean,
Speaker 1: I got a whole host of things completely wrong. So
Speaker 1: I'm not getting any better. Dan doing well eighty two
Speaker 1: and seventy two, That's what I'm talking about, baby, and
Speaker 1: I am at eighty nine and seventy five. All right,
Speaker 1: So I picked up a little ground on you, but
Speaker 1: you're still the first place. And this game ends the
Speaker 1: moment of us, the moment one of us uh quits
Speaker 1: gets terminated where the podcast mysteriously disappears when someone on
Speaker 1: the third floor listens to literally one episode. So whenever
Speaker 1: that happens in the show, uh either is no longer
Speaker 1: the four of Us or we're canceled out right um uh.
Speaker 1: Which I'm not saying. This is not me hinting that
Speaker 1: something's going on, saying if that were to happen, that's
Speaker 1: when the game ends. If people are looking for how
Speaker 1: do what is the end game here? Right? And then
Speaker 1: Nick Fortier, who runs this wonderful sister site, is out
Speaker 1: of an unpaid job. Oh I thought you were gonna
Speaker 1: say he takes one of our chairs after we had
Speaker 1: let go. Actually I came in the gold standard Go
Speaker 1: get my Lunch dot org. By the way, I think
Speaker 1: a football podcast might be beneath the gold standards. Sydney,
Speaker 1: by the way, is oh and four all time, so
Speaker 1: you either jump off the ziggyanza. Alright, moving on, we
Speaker 1: gotta keep moving, guys, a lot to get to the
Speaker 1: supersized edition of the Around the NFL podcast post super
Speaker 1: Bowl edition, the top five calls of the season. Oh
Speaker 1: I love this. We we took it seriously as if
Speaker 1: you're a listener of the podcast, uh, and you listened
Speaker 1: all season long, you know that when we would play
Speaker 1: different radio calls on our Sunday podcasts and our Tuesday
Speaker 1: podcast for the primetime games, we would uh mark them
Speaker 1: off or Sydney I should say, would mark them off
Speaker 1: when we let her know we liked to call out
Speaker 1: of those markos that came to a nice group a
Speaker 1: dozen calls, and then the four of us got together
Speaker 1: in a pre prod meeting I call it pre prod
Speaker 1: pre prod, and we whittled that twelve down to five.
Speaker 1: And here now got the paper in my hand. This
Speaker 1: is the list. If you are in the business, uh,
Speaker 1: in the play by play business or the color man business,
Speaker 1: this is the piece of paper you want to be
Speaker 1: on come February, because that means that you are doing something,
Speaker 1: You're standing out from all of your peers. They don't
Speaker 1: even know this podcast exists, well they will. We had
Speaker 1: seven million people listen, eight million people since we started this.
Speaker 1: Another villion just joyed listen to the show on Sunday,
Speaker 1: So you don't know Zoli. Zoli might have been listening.
Speaker 1: Old Shirtless mentioned you have to be a radio man.
Speaker 1: You're not. You're not gonna be on a television show
Speaker 1: and get it on this. You're not. Every once in
Speaker 1: a while we would, but Zoli is bombed. Al Right,
Speaker 1: here we go. Number five. The call is from Mike
Speaker 1: Keith of w g f X. The play call was
Speaker 1: the game winning field goal by Ryan suck Up in
Speaker 1: Kansas City to keep Tennessee's playoff hopes alive. Uh and
Speaker 1: uh send the Chiefs to an unlikely loss. Frankly to
Speaker 1: snap snap said kick on the way God, Ryan suck
Speaker 1: Up hass given the Titans a nineteen to seventeen when
Speaker 1: harrow Head, Oh my goodness, eight and six has never better.
Speaker 1: And I don't think Ryan suck Up has never felt better.
Speaker 1: Um West, Now, this this was a major source of
Speaker 1: consternation in the pre prod meeting. You didn't think this
Speaker 1: belonged in the top five well as it generally who
Speaker 1: would have thought that in the year two thousand seventeen,
Speaker 1: radio calls wouldn't be that compelling. That was my general sentiment,
Speaker 1: And the second sentiment was really tough to get on
Speaker 1: this list when that makes it Wait a second. I
Speaker 1: loved how he was like God in facts and he
Speaker 1: can we clip off when he goes God in fact.
Speaker 1: Let's I just want to hear that part one more time. God.
Speaker 1: So that was number five. Any note to beat out
Speaker 1: by hairrit beat out the Kansas City, the uh play
Speaker 1: by play guy noting that someone had found the sweet
Speaker 1: Nectar of the end, and Bob Costas announcing the Preakness
Speaker 1: and costUS the Preakness. So best moment no better than
Speaker 1: being Mr Irrelevant back in the NFL. And some of
Speaker 1: these are sad and and and hindsight because the next week, uh,
Speaker 1: the Titans played like crap and then Marcus Mariota broke
Speaker 1: his leg. Uh, But these teams in the moment, special
Speaker 1: moments for the teams number four, specially in seven, never
Speaker 1: felt so bad. The next next week, number four, the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns make the list. And you know the only
Speaker 1: way the Browns are making a list like this is
Speaker 1: uh if UH something really bad happened to them, or
Speaker 1: there are one victory of the season and that's what
Speaker 1: we're talking about. Jimmy Donovan of w k r K,
Speaker 1: God bless him. This was his call when the field
Speaker 1: goal was missed by who missed the field goal? Mark
Speaker 1: Little Brown's trivia the Chargers field goal kicker Nick Novak,
Speaker 1: Josh Lando Oh John lamb Lambabo goes wide right, ensuring
Speaker 1: on Christmas Eve of all days, that the Browns would
Speaker 1: not go winless in two thousand, sixteen nine seconds and
Speaker 1: the clock is running. It's down to seven seconds. They
Speaker 1: set it down at the thirty five. It's down to
Speaker 1: four three to one. They got it off. The kick
Speaker 1: on the way hand up r and the kick is
Speaker 1: up and it is good. Good on it for five
Speaker 1: yard feel gon no good at the absolute list chick
Speaker 1: of o'clock and it's all at fourteen no more. On
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve. The Browns are a winner. People. Here it
Speaker 1: is the here's the aplos. People will be surprised to
Speaker 1: know this. And Mark, tell me if I'm wrong, that
Speaker 1: was the angriest I ever saw you in the newsroom
Speaker 1: when that happened, which people will be surprised by Yeah,
Speaker 1: they like the celebration around your team. No, I don't
Speaker 1: even remember for what all the nuances were, but it's
Speaker 1: it's not a pleasant place to watch Browns games in general,
Speaker 1: especially this season, because that became part of the newsroom culture,
Speaker 1: was the Browns the windless season and how close they
Speaker 1: came to it. So there was like a fun, kind
Speaker 1: of cathartic celebration in the newsroom. But for you, Mark Well,
Speaker 1: I also and it was kind of still kind of sad.
Speaker 1: I don't claim that it was, you know. I mean,
Speaker 1: every day I'll say this about at least one or
Speaker 1: two my reactions, they're they're a mess. And that was
Speaker 1: not a That was a messy reaction. That reminds me
Speaker 1: of what you said during the Super Bowl, which is
Speaker 1: that if the Browns did make it to the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: You're actually gonna have switched places with Simone. You'll sit
Speaker 1: in the crowd and Simone will cover the game. Simon
Speaker 1: is my wife. She will be forced into writing articles
Speaker 1: during the Super Bowl while I enjoy it and set
Speaker 1: things on fire. I'm just gonna set myself on fire
Speaker 1: if things I am not working. If the Jets make
Speaker 1: this thank you I'm going to the game, right, but
Speaker 1: I am not working. Not like you have an option
Speaker 1: you don't have. Oh, I'll have it. Well, it's not
Speaker 1: to happen either. Yeah, it's fantasy. That's why it was
Speaker 1: a weird. Yeah. Number three the New England Patriots. They
Speaker 1: deserve to crack this list. And you would think the
Speaker 1: play call that we played on Sunday night of the
Speaker 1: Patriots winning the game and overtime would get it. But no,
Speaker 1: Bob Soci and our boy Scott Uh totally comfortable with
Speaker 1: public community Zolac with the call on Danny Amandol's two
Speaker 1: point conversion late in the fourth quarter to tie the
Speaker 1: game fifty seven seconds to go at two for the
Speaker 1: Tide trips to the left, Brandy under shut it. Tom
Speaker 1: takes the staff quick throw to Amadola screen luck the
Speaker 1: flag is he reaches across the gold link for a score.
Speaker 1: There is a penity marker on the play side. That's
Speaker 1: it's some damn suns for everybody. It didn't. So what
Speaker 1: are you gonna look at that? Beetle? I can't believe it.
Speaker 1: Someone that's familiar with that market can let us know
Speaker 1: who Beatle is. What are you looking at? Beetle's my
Speaker 1: favorite line. Yeah, we gotta we gotta fighting. If if
Speaker 1: someone you know follows Scott Zoe or knows the answer
Speaker 1: to this, almost get the information you almost not want
Speaker 1: to know too. And just who he's taunting there. That
Speaker 1: makes the list because of unhinged Homerism. It's not because
Speaker 1: it's the cleanest call. It's just you can't believe that
Speaker 1: anyone in a booth is behaving this. Zola proved himself
Speaker 1: to be the number one homer in the NFL this
Speaker 1: season without a doubt, so this was a little nod
Speaker 1: to him, giving him the bronze medal. I will say
Speaker 1: it is interesting that's coming out of New England. Um,
Speaker 1: because I know in New York, at least in Mark
Speaker 1: you'll you know this, Uh, they're very Um there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of Homer's not because that's for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: that market has always been more along the lines of
Speaker 1: playing it down down the middle, even if there is
Speaker 1: a slight leaning one way or because one team either.
Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. Because there's Mets, Yankees,
Speaker 1: there's Jets, Giants that affect. I think New York is
Speaker 1: legitimately like it is the launching pad to National or
Speaker 1: National Careers Boston TV wise, it's not that way, but
Speaker 1: you might guess, I mean partly because like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of non Yankees and Mets fans they're listening, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, like are less provincial of the city.
Speaker 1: But but every call we're listening to has a tinge
Speaker 1: of Homeroism in New York. You're right, does not moving
Speaker 1: on number two and this this is gonna surprise people
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people when they heard
Speaker 1: this call, and it came very early in the season
Speaker 1: Week one, in fact, said oh, the race is over,
Speaker 1: and you know we thought it was over two people
Speaker 1: were saying that the streets talking give it to Kevin
Speaker 1: Harlan because in a game a wipe out of a
Speaker 1: game where the forty Niners um embarrassed the forty Niners
Speaker 1: and a shutout win on the late Monday night game
Speaker 1: in Week one, Harlan set the country on fire the
Speaker 1: next morning on social media with his call of an
Speaker 1: idiot fan who would run onto the field. Hey, somebody's
Speaker 1: running on the field. So I'm goroofball in a hat
Speaker 1: and a red shirt. He takes off the shirt he's
Speaker 1: running down the middle. By the fifty he's at he's
Speaker 1: bear chested, bar in his chest. He runs the opposite way.
Speaker 1: He runs with fifty, he runs forty. The guy is drunk,
Speaker 1: but there he goes the funny. They're changing him. They're
Speaker 1: not gonna get him waving his arms, bear chested. Somebody
Speaker 1: stopped the hot line. That was the most exciting thing
Speaker 1: to happen tonight. I always like because he'd give it's
Speaker 1: a professional calau of a fan on the field. But
Speaker 1: then he's like, to the fifty, to the forty, this
Speaker 1: guy is drunk. To always love that he loves. He's
Speaker 1: an example of someone thing just absolutely loves what he does.
Speaker 1: Like he he turned that into something so special. It's
Speaker 1: like very few people have that kind of fun with it.
Speaker 1: And and it's a reminder. And since I'll never get
Speaker 1: a chance to really talk about Jeff Fisher's head coaching
Speaker 1: career maybe ever again, it's a reminder. How did the
Speaker 1: Rams lose? Lose? The only two games of the season
Speaker 1: that the forty niners won were against the Rams, and
Speaker 1: they did Their offense didn't get two hundred yards in
Speaker 1: either one of those games. That's almost impossible horrendous, horrendous,
Speaker 1: and check out Kevin Harlan. He'll be all over march men.
Speaker 1: So that guy's got a good career and he deserves it.
Speaker 1: But the man who takes the cake, and I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what, he's the one man in the list probably
Speaker 1: doesn't want to be on the list, but we love him.
Speaker 1: We say this with peace and love. Uh. That Bob
Speaker 1: Lamey w f n I in Indianapolis earned the number
Speaker 1: one spot of our calls of the year with this
Speaker 1: gorgeous gem in Week three against the Chargers. The Colts win.
Speaker 1: It is finally over randalls for everybody, probably Amy people
Speaker 1: drops an F bomb live on air. It's like every
Speaker 1: Sunday night football game in this room. Lamy, I'm glad
Speaker 1: you didn't lose his job over that, because people have
Speaker 1: lost their job for less. All Right, Finally, this is
Speaker 1: what you came here for. Mark Sessler road a banger,
Speaker 1: what we're looking forward to this offseason besides Tony Romo,
Speaker 1: um blather. Yeah. So Mark came up on a nice
Speaker 1: list here. I think it goes about about ten twelve deep, uh,
Speaker 1: with a bonus section entitled Ultra Tedious Storylines. I refuse
Speaker 1: to entertain. We'll get into what I say. It almost
Speaker 1: felt like the whole thing was a preamble to set
Speaker 1: up that that just getting to water. All right, So
Speaker 1: let's go down the list and uh, and we'll decide
Speaker 1: whether Mark's on point or completely just writing it this ass, Well,
Speaker 1: that's very possible. First one. And by the way, why
Speaker 1: beyond Romo? Why why did why? The conceit at the
Speaker 1: top explained to us, I'm already completely exhausted with the
Speaker 1: handling of Tony Romo. At one point, he's going to
Speaker 1: be traded. That's one article. Let's keep it at one.
Speaker 1: Why do we need to have four thousand think pieces
Speaker 1: and lists and other landing spot bits. I mean, we
Speaker 1: get it. I think you're right, You're absolutely right. Alright,
Speaker 1: So no Romo talk. But you know what one of
Speaker 1: the storylines we talked about this one, Shanahan's fix it
Speaker 1: up or by the bay? How does Kyle take that
Speaker 1: to win team and turn it into a respectable bunch.
Speaker 1: You're you're excited according to your copy. I do think
Speaker 1: it's exciting. New coaches actually are one of my most
Speaker 1: I think it makes the off season and just treasured.
Speaker 1: I think if you find out who they are, but
Speaker 1: real quick because we all think, I think Kyle Shanahan's
Speaker 1: riding in, I get the super Bowl thing, but as
Speaker 1: this sort of wonder boy based on his entire lineage
Speaker 1: and career and everything else. And this is a very
Speaker 1: tough job to turn this team around quickly. And this
Speaker 1: is a pretty exhausted, h angry press core that covers
Speaker 1: the Niners that don't have six years of patients in them.
Speaker 1: So it will be an interesting dynamic. Although I think
Speaker 1: they're kind of impressed that Ed York pulled off, even
Speaker 1: though John Lynch is in a strange higher in a
Speaker 1: lot of minds, I think you're kind of like, Wow,
Speaker 1: Jed York got John Lynch and Kyleshannon. That's actually that's
Speaker 1: pretty good there their roster, though, I mean they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to. They're starting from scratch. It's especially if Jeremy
Speaker 1: Curley sneaks out of the building eighty million under the cap.
Speaker 1: And I was looking at the free agent list this year.
Speaker 1: It is the weakest free agents I've ever seen because
Speaker 1: the salary cap keeps going up in by a decent
Speaker 1: amount every year, so teams are signing their good young players.
Speaker 1: This is a bad year to have a lot of
Speaker 1: money under the camp as such a lover of coordinators, though,
Speaker 1: what do you think about the decision that Kyleshannion is
Speaker 1: not even gonna have an offensive coordinatu? I think Connor
Speaker 1: or wrote a great piece about first year head coaches
Speaker 1: when they go through all this and then they sit
Speaker 1: in their chair and they think, I don't know what
Speaker 1: I'm doing, like adding a lot of extra responsibility onto
Speaker 1: your plate when you haven't been a head coach. For
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan, who's gonna find out there's all these other
Speaker 1: things he has to do. By the way, he comes
Speaker 1: from father Mike Shanahan that probably told him everything, so
Speaker 1: more experienced. And on the next up, what becomes of
Speaker 1: Jimmy g I like this one. In fact, yes, our
Speaker 1: NFL network hit that you could watch on Friday on
Speaker 1: up to the minute. This is the subject Garoppolo, Uh,
Speaker 1: the backup quarterback of the Patriots. The Pats have a
Speaker 1: position here is one year left on his deal where
Speaker 1: they can make a play trade Garoppolo with Tom Brady
Speaker 1: obviously still playing so well and the Patriots defending champions. Now, Uh,
Speaker 1: the question becomes Mark and I'll start with you, Uh,
Speaker 1: where does he end up? Where is he comes September?
Speaker 1: Is he in Cleveland? Mark it? Cleveland's gonna have to
Speaker 1: give up a lot because it sounds like there's at
Speaker 1: least three teams that are very serious about making a
Speaker 1: run for him. Which three teams forty Niners, Bears, and
Speaker 1: Brown's top three teams in the draft. So there isn't
Speaker 1: a team sitting at twenty that has no I mean,
Speaker 1: they all have great position to outbid each other. Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan one of the reasons he left the Browns because
Speaker 1: they just guarded his analysis on that quarterback class. He
Speaker 1: had Derek Carr and Jimmy Garoppolo rated above Johnny Manziel
Speaker 1: and Teddy Bridgewater. They didn't pay attention to him. He left.
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan now in San Francisco. We've seen reports that
Speaker 1: the Browns are already planning to trade for Garoppolo. We've
Speaker 1: seen reports that the Bears have made him their number
Speaker 1: one off season priority. And Thomas Dimitroff, who had Channahan
Speaker 1: for two years and had his ear, said it best,
Speaker 1: until you find a quarterback, the search for him consumes
Speaker 1: you there will be a windfall of draft picks in
Speaker 1: New England. I think I think he's gonna bring more
Speaker 1: than a first rounder, and once the bidding gets wild,
Speaker 1: I think it could go out of control. He is
Speaker 1: the most attractive guy on the market in terms of
Speaker 1: you know, Tony Romo or Cutler or Tyrod Taylor could
Speaker 1: be in the mix. I don't know a first I
Speaker 1: feel like if the brown said today will give you
Speaker 1: the number, what is it, twelve or four twelve pick
Speaker 1: for the draft, I don't I don't know. If the
Speaker 1: pages have weighed around, I think they would just be like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's do it. Well, here's here's a offered mark.
Speaker 1: You tell me if you do it. If you're the GM,
Speaker 1: not not the first overall pick, but the Browns number
Speaker 1: twelve pick, which they obtained from the Eagles, of course,
Speaker 1: and a third rounder next year for Jimmy g and
Speaker 1: a fifth rounder in two thousand eighteen, I would do
Speaker 1: it in a second, and I'll tell you why, because
Speaker 1: if it works, then it doesn't matter what the cost was.
Speaker 1: If it doesn't work, it's no different than going into
Speaker 1: the season with r G three. They've got a ton
Speaker 1: of draft picks to Brown's key are the Browns a pick.
Speaker 1: Are you gonna Are you gonna keep fifteen rookies? Again?
Speaker 1: You can't you. I like their idea, but like at
Speaker 1: one point, you have to go for the quarterback, and
Speaker 1: and Jimmy G has been well trained there there by
Speaker 1: all indications it's not brock Oswaller Part two. And you
Speaker 1: gotta swing for the fences. You cannot go into the
Speaker 1: season with nobody. I guess my My point was that
Speaker 1: it's just because they have X amount of roster space,
Speaker 1: it's still there's a lot of risk involved to give
Speaker 1: up a number twelve pick. I think it's worth it
Speaker 1: right one. Daniel Jeremiah, his latest mock has the Browns
Speaker 1: taking a tight end at number twelve. So do you
Speaker 1: want not who wouldn't even be your number one, your
Speaker 1: number one tight end? Or do you want to go
Speaker 1: for the quarterback? I give up the twelve pick for
Speaker 1: Jimmy G plus a third or whatever in a second.
Speaker 1: These rebuilding teams at the top of the draft, the Browns,
Speaker 1: the forty Niners, the Bears. They don't want Tony Romo,
Speaker 1: they don't want Jake Cutler, they don't want Tyrod Taylor.
Speaker 1: If the Browns offer that the Patriots are gonna shop
Speaker 1: it to the forty Niners and Bears and say beat it.
Speaker 1: Keep in keep an eye on the Saints. I really
Speaker 1: think the Saints one of the teams that are really
Speaker 1: high on Garoppolo going into the draft, uh Sean pay
Speaker 1: in the Eastern Illinois connection. They've been looking pretty hard
Speaker 1: at trying to find their next quarterback. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's an buy it for a minute. You're gonna trade
Speaker 1: a first rounder when your defense sucks every year and
Speaker 1: on one hit point on the Patriots side, is there
Speaker 1: any thought in that building that we could have a
Speaker 1: Montana to Steve Young transfer of power? Why would we
Speaker 1: give that up? If if we think that highly about
Speaker 1: Jimmy g now that the good problem to have here
Speaker 1: is that Brady doesn't look close to the end of
Speaker 1: the line, but he is going to be forty. I
Speaker 1: think that's interesting too, because they are so well set
Speaker 1: up for another decade with with a backup they believe in.
Speaker 1: But Brady obviously isn't close to the end yet, but
Speaker 1: he is forty, so the end could come quickly. They
Speaker 1: traded Richard Seymour, they traded Drew bledso for obvious reasons
Speaker 1: they've traded all sorts of guys. When value is there,
Speaker 1: it's never gonna be this high, every right. I think
Speaker 1: they would have thought about offering Jimmy Garoppolo a weird
Speaker 1: sort of contract where it was the bases were low
Speaker 1: for a few years and then it spiked up with
Speaker 1: an option. If Tom Brady wasn't this good this year,
Speaker 1: if he was just if he had that gradual decline
Speaker 1: where he was like the eighth best quard, but he wasn't,
Speaker 1: he was too good for them to do right. The
Speaker 1: cost of keeping Garoppolo instead of trading him is messing
Speaker 1: up your salary cap by paying too high end quarterback
Speaker 1: moving on another quarterback that Oh this is really well
Speaker 1: put Mark the Courting of Cousins. I don't even remember
Speaker 1: writing that, but apparently I did. Uh. Yes, so, Mark,
Speaker 1: you don't expect Kirk Cousins planet for anyone but the Redskins.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, West, it seems like they're
Speaker 1: things are not things are a little choppy in DC
Speaker 1: about the quarterback position. Doesn't surprise you that this is
Speaker 1: something that's even something we need to be tracking like this? Yes,
Speaker 1: I love that Mark put that quote in there because
Speaker 1: I think this is one of the most overblown storylines
Speaker 1: of the off season. He's going to be the quarterback
Speaker 1: for the Redskins, and the GMS quote is telling I
Speaker 1: don't think it's as complicated as everyone wants to make it.
Speaker 1: And we'll get together with his agent, will come up
Speaker 1: with an agreement. That's what's gonna happen. He's gonna play
Speaker 1: for the Redskins. It'll probably be on the check though,
Speaker 1: right They said that last year too. Bruce Allen said, well,
Speaker 1: we're very confident we're gonna get a contract. He didn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't. So this idea that other teams want Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins to the Redskins will just say, oh, take him.
Speaker 1: That's fine. Well, and someone reminds me of the rules
Speaker 1: of this, because I I feel a little uncomfortable about
Speaker 1: this idea, because if you franchise a guy the first time,
Speaker 1: I think it's the average of the top five salaries
Speaker 1: of the position, and if you do it a second time,
Speaker 1: it's something even more extreme, isn't it. It's a bump,
Speaker 1: I believe, which would make Kirk cut. And if anyone
Speaker 1: wants to come, they have to give up a lot
Speaker 1: traffic wise it to first. I believe if you don't
Speaker 1: make them the exclusive I think they would just make
Speaker 1: him even the exclusive tag where you can't even give him.
Speaker 1: And if that happens, if he makes million. You know
Speaker 1: who's doing really well for himself, Kurt Cousins, who will
Speaker 1: have essentially signed a two year, forty five million dollar right,
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins, It's good to be a quarterback
Speaker 1: Cleveland's offseason strategy. Uh. Next up on Mark's list. Uh,
Speaker 1: and we talked about that with Jimmy g Um. But
Speaker 1: what else? What else more? I think that's I think
Speaker 1: that's the that's really the big part of it. Are
Speaker 1: you going to use the picks to get a quarterback
Speaker 1: or you're going to try to continue to build around
Speaker 1: a non quarterback? Um. Next up on the list, Adrian
Speaker 1: Peterson on the move. That's a question Mark. He's turning
Speaker 1: thirty two next month. Uh was hurt and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: really we didn't get to see much of him at
Speaker 1: all last year. Uh. Where would this guy end up? Greg?
Speaker 1: In your mind? If he hit the open market, and
Speaker 1: what do you have a healthy market to choose from?
Speaker 1: I mean, he'll have suitors. He's not gonna make a
Speaker 1: ton of money because he's an aging running back. I
Speaker 1: mean he he'll I mean it depends what you count
Speaker 1: a ton of money. I'd take six or seven million dollars,
Speaker 1: you know, in a one year contractor for twelve. Give
Speaker 1: it to me, baby. Uh, the Giants make a lot
Speaker 1: of sense to me. That just pops off my head.
Speaker 1: He's a fascinating player because I think we don't know
Speaker 1: how what percentage he is of what he was a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. I think he can still play,
Speaker 1: but the NFL has moved to an era where his
Speaker 1: skill set doesn't fit most offenses. He's a net negative
Speaker 1: in the passing game. Right now, look at the look
Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl, I mean, look at the Patriots
Speaker 1: and exactly right. And finally, then you could read all
Speaker 1: of marks piece on NFL dot com slash Sessler. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's the plug that you would ask for privately, Mark
Speaker 1: before the show. Well, that just it just throws you
Speaker 1: to a rather jumbled an author page. So anyway, here's
Speaker 1: the bonus. Mark. I would love for you to read
Speaker 1: this list in full, ultra tedious storylines I refuse to entertain.
Speaker 1: Let's hear it, Mark alright. Number one Blake portals a quote.
Speaker 1: Newman and Jacksonville were all tired of that. Number two
Speaker 1: Browns haven't lost faith in r G three, Give Me
Speaker 1: a Break. Number three Roethlisberger is still toying with retirement.
Speaker 1: Give me a Break, Part two. Number four Dom Caper's
Speaker 1: building and quotes Tougher Packers Defense. Number five, Hackenburg ready
Speaker 1: to make the leap in Floram Park. Number six, Bill
Speaker 1: O'Brien colan, we can rock with Brock. Number seven Well,
Speaker 1: number seven, Tom Brady colon Cantaloupe terrible for human digestive system.
Speaker 1: Number eight, E J. Manual In quotes Peyton like in
Speaker 1: Bill's minicamp forget about It. Number nine Brandon Marshall colon
Speaker 1: Josh McCown will take That's to promise land. Number ten
Speaker 1: Nadamic and sue Patriots vulnerable after free agent exodus, never
Speaker 1: not writing about any of that. This is definitely the
Speaker 1: everything was building to that paragraph. That's why you wrote this.
Speaker 1: And I'm very entertaining. Mark, good stuff. Everybody that's today's show.
Speaker 1: There is at a track that list, and see if
Speaker 1: Mark writes anything on any of them. I'm I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to seeing the off season articles, he writes about
Speaker 1: the Chargers. Comfy confines, he's very, very, very excited. I
Speaker 1: really want to go there late June when we're looking
Speaker 1: for you. How are you it's gonna happen in the
Speaker 1: off season at the conn. I will feign sickness. Oh,
Speaker 1: I just realized, well, Mark will be not at his desk. Way,
Speaker 1: where's Mark. He's on the phone with the operations officer
Speaker 1: of the Chargers. And you're doing a long form on
Speaker 1: this new soccer arena. I can see. I can see
Speaker 1: it now, whatever it takes. Alright, good stuff, all right?
Speaker 1: And people who are curious, what is our off season
Speaker 1: taping schedule? All right? In what are we doing next week? Guys,
Speaker 1: what do we want to do next week? We're gonna
Speaker 1: do two or three shows. That's the conversation we want
Speaker 1: to have. We're gonna do it right now, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday.
Speaker 1: That's typically what we did in the off season in
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Speaker 1: This is Dan Hanses signing off for a quiet storm,
Speaker 1: the mail Man, the Old Boss, and new Money behind
Speaker 1: the Glass until Monday. Mark Sussler of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast Here it's a bit of a post show
Speaker 1: breaking news scenario. We learned recently that internationally acclaimed economist
Speaker 1: Hands Rosling passed away this week and sad news, of course,
Speaker 1: the world warns and we have on the line our
Speaker 1: economic expert Mr F. High school economics teacher in the Hague,
Speaker 1: the Netherlands. Mr F. Are you there, I'm here, Hi, Mark.
Speaker 1: Obviously sad news. Can you maybe talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about the reaction among your fellow economists, uh, and maybe
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about who Hans Rosling was and
Speaker 1: why he was important. Sure. I think the reaction was shocked.
Speaker 1: He was pretty young, sixty eight, and he had a
Speaker 1: short illness, so I think there was surprise from the
Speaker 1: people I talked to about it because we hadn't known
Speaker 1: how ill he was. And I think his importances is
Speaker 1: it's hard to quantify for me, because I really appreciated
Speaker 1: what he did. The most important thing for me from
Speaker 1: his work was he was able to change people's opinions
Speaker 1: about what was happening in the world by using facts
Speaker 1: and figures and data statistics that he compiled to make
Speaker 1: you really rethink um your opinions about development and the
Speaker 1: poor and um and how the world was. And he
Speaker 1: was extremely practical. He worked in human health in Africa
Speaker 1: for years, and just a couple of years ago he
Speaker 1: went to Liberia to work to help fight the Bola
Speaker 1: outbreak that happened there. I mean he really put in
Speaker 1: practice his his his knowledge of economics and statistics, and
Speaker 1: that was of great health, of great help in public
Speaker 1: health as well as in economic Where was he where
Speaker 1: was he living at this period? So he's been in
Speaker 1: Sweden teaching at the car lot um UM sorry um
Speaker 1: the institute there, the main university, Karlinska Institute in Stockholm, Sweden,
Speaker 1: the capital for probably boy, it's probably been like eight
Speaker 1: years he's been there. And before that he was in
Speaker 1: public health in in uh in Sub Saharan Africa. And
Speaker 1: have you ever had a chance to meet him? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was fortunate enough to meet him at an education conference,
Speaker 1: the e C I S Conference in Lisbon, Portugal, about
Speaker 1: five six years ago, I think it was, and he
Speaker 1: gave a presentation that I've already been teaching now for
Speaker 1: twenty years at the time fifteen years is probably the
Speaker 1: best presentation I've ever seen in terms of use of
Speaker 1: visual information and sharing ideas and getting complex concepts across
Speaker 1: to every person there. It was fantastic. And in speaking
Speaker 1: of teaching, you have you know your own in the
Speaker 1: front row, really had in the front row myself and
Speaker 1: another economist sat in the front row, and then we
Speaker 1: got our picture taken with him. It was kind of
Speaker 1: a hero another fanboy moment. Well, I was talking to
Speaker 1: you guy, Yeah, I was gonna say that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that you'd had that kind of contact
Speaker 1: with him, that he was very important. I mean to
Speaker 1: your students, you teach high school students, do they find
Speaker 1: him inspiring? Was he someone that was he able to
Speaker 1: reach them in the on this topic of economics worldwide? Well?
Speaker 1: They they always thought that his presentations were better than mine.
Speaker 1: You know, he's just a great speaker. So when you
Speaker 1: watched his his interviews, you could really tell his both
Speaker 1: his understanding and his joy of the subject. And he
Speaker 1: was both funny and knowledgeable, and he really was able
Speaker 1: to share information. And my students have always enjoyed his presentations.
Speaker 1: And actually we talked about his death, and we will
Speaker 1: be watching a video for the introduction to development economics
Speaker 1: with my seniors in next week. So yeah, he's still
Speaker 1: you know, it's a great loss. Yeah, I'm here with
Speaker 1: Mr Eff and we're talking about the passing of hands Rosling,
Speaker 1: a very well known economists worldwide, died at a young
Speaker 1: age too very sad news one. I mean, it is
Speaker 1: an NFL show and we've probably thrown our listeners for
Speaker 1: quite a loop at this point. Uh, would you compare him?
Speaker 1: Is there any NFL figure that you could compare Rosling too?
Speaker 1: Is there is there anyone else? This is tougher because
Speaker 1: I'm not as knowledgeable, but I went to Uh, I
Speaker 1: went to Westling, and I asked Chris for a little
Speaker 1: help too. So I thought, Wade Phillips, you know, next
Speaker 1: is no guys and funny? And Chris thought maybe his
Speaker 1: dad bummed Phillips. And I also thought that really smart
Speaker 1: wineman from Baltimore. I can't from the mathematician um Herschel
Speaker 1: or something like that. Oh yeah, the guy that's on
Speaker 1: all the commercials. Yes, over mathematical guy. Yeah yeah, So
Speaker 1: I guess Hans Rosling was a really good excess and
Speaker 1: out and excess and os guy who was also funny.
Speaker 1: So whoever you got in your head for that, that's
Speaker 1: love the comparison. Final question, is there are and maybe
Speaker 1: you'd end up here someday if there is? Is there
Speaker 1: an economics Hall of Fame out there? Um? I won't
Speaker 1: end up there, but I think the Nobel Prize in economics.
Speaker 1: He's probably the top Hall of Fame honor that's been
Speaker 1: going on for almost fifty years, and there's some incredible
Speaker 1: figures in that list, and there's some other lists, probably
Speaker 1: some historical lists, but that would be one first. Sure, Well,
Speaker 1: you never know, hopefully, you know, hopefully by appearing on
Speaker 1: this podcast, it's setting the path ahead for you to
Speaker 1: get the Nobel and more. Thank you for joining us. Uh,
Speaker 1: It's always great to talk a little economic theory with you,
Speaker 1: and we'll have you on the show again to talk
Speaker 1: some football, I hope. Thanks Mark, as always, thanks so
Speaker 1: much for the pot, and congrats to Greg and all
Speaker 1: of you for a great season. Greg on the super
Speaker 1: Bowl win, but also for all of you just fantastic
Speaker 1: work as always. Yeah, it's really all about Greg and
Speaker 1: the end. So we're very excited about that dynamic. All right,
Speaker 1: we will talk with you soon. Thank you so much,