Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast has no blind spot. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to another edition to the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys, Hey? Dan? Oh? Yeah? Two
Speaker 1: sixteen over yet? Can't wait? Why is that? With the
Speaker 1: With the very notable exception of my son, Harry Harry
Speaker 1: being born, this is one of the worst years ever.
Speaker 1: And I don't even care to get into specifics, but
Speaker 1: it goes all over the map um and uh. The
Speaker 1: Jets are certainly part of that, which we'll get to
Speaker 1: a little later. It extends beyond the your football team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: eat a giant butt two thousand sixteen smellulator. That's where
Speaker 1: I'm coming. And I don't think I'm alone. Now some
Speaker 1: some you know, great people have passed away. You know
Speaker 1: the world has been a little crazy. It's been good
Speaker 1: for the old juser though, the old that's what I
Speaker 1: can end around. The end Around started this year as
Speaker 1: its own um as its own page NFL dot com
Speaker 1: slash end around. That's big grateful for the good things
Speaker 1: in life. Greg. I can't get my head. I don't know,
Speaker 1: if you're talking about world events and the passing a
Speaker 1: multiple artists, or if you're talking personally, is you're typically
Speaker 1: a cheerful person. This is quite an unexpected of negative.
Speaker 1: Hasn't had much starting to weigh on me the weight
Speaker 1: of the world. But you know what, I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: push through it. This is the forum to, you know,
Speaker 1: to break it down, especially the first couple of minutes
Speaker 1: of what is otherwise a football podcast. Yeah, it's it's true.
Speaker 1: It's true. So maybe I'll really dig deep a little
Speaker 1: later in the show. But we got a lot to
Speaker 1: get to today. UM. As two thousand and sixteen mercifully
Speaker 1: draws to a close, It's okay. UH. Around the NFL
Speaker 1: Podcast Tuesday edition, sponsored of course by miss their Flames
Speaker 1: Economics class in the Hague, the Netherlands, and today's show,
Speaker 1: we will break down the Monday night massacre at the Meadowlands. UM,
Speaker 1: we will preview what a great slate of primetime games.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm just gonna spend positive great primetime games
Speaker 1: in week fourteen in the NFL schedule, starting with Thursday
Speaker 1: night Oakland at Kansas City, NFC West. UH lead on
Speaker 1: the line. We have not heard from our friend Connor
Speaker 1: or so we're gonna play one of our favorite exercises.
Speaker 1: D Connor, in a drunken state, told me a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago that he really had something to get
Speaker 1: off his chest was unable to do it last week's
Speaker 1: scheduled conflict. So um that drunken Thanksgiving night text. Now
Speaker 1: we're gonna find out what that's all about. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that too. See he's getting better.
Speaker 1: And finally we will play game called Hey, do you
Speaker 1: want to be in my shoes? No, thank you, I
Speaker 1: would rather be in some others there said both of
Speaker 1: the that little you know many play one act play
Speaker 1: was part of the title. Is what you're saying. It's
Speaker 1: not just the Dan part is Mark's party. That's the
Speaker 1: name of the segment. Get up to speed Mark. Greg's
Speaker 1: a little bit behind because he stepped out of our
Speaker 1: planning meeting today to go film a live hit on
Speaker 1: NFL network. I was just trying to clarify the bit
Speaker 1: for all the listeners NFL Networks. Greg Rosenthal had a hit,
Speaker 1: he had a he had a slink out. Now you
Speaker 1: too said wow for one site, someone other I thought myself,
Speaker 1: I thought new Money would recognize New Money. But I
Speaker 1: would normally defend Greg in this situation, but the facts
Speaker 1: are that he didn't know the name of the segment
Speaker 1: because of his star turn on NFL. Now, literally, you
Speaker 1: were not involved with this planning, but I believe that
Speaker 1: you will step up even with your You don't have
Speaker 1: a lot of time, obviously, because the meeting was much
Speaker 1: later than it ever is. You were really stretched thin
Speaker 1: this morning, in this afternoon because of your NFL network.
Speaker 1: I don't want to add to your the year that
Speaker 1: you're having, but I would say that probably what you
Speaker 1: should have done is at that point you were sort
Speaker 1: of operating a showrunner. You should have told Greg's assistant
Speaker 1: about what the show was. You know, you're right, all right,
Speaker 1: let's start with some Monday night football two thou sixteen.
Speaker 1: This is the worst. I can't wait till two thousand seventy.
Speaker 1: Must be better or else. At MetLife Stadium, the New
Speaker 1: York Jets entered three and eight, the Indianapolis Colts entered
Speaker 1: five and six, needing the game in a big way,
Speaker 1: and the Cults delivered an effort that would expect from
Speaker 1: a team that needed to win. The Jets delivered an
Speaker 1: effort from a team that looks like it's already checked
Speaker 1: out for the season. Play action again, great protection, Andrew
Speaker 1: is gonna step up and throw clock for a touchdown
Speaker 1: by Dwayne Allen two in a game, a twenty one
Speaker 1: yard pass. He's got two t D receptions seventeen on
Speaker 1: his career and four this year. And the crowd is
Speaker 1: really on the Jets. Thirteen nothing Colts and we still
Speaker 1: have seven forty five to go on the first quarter
Speaker 1: final score forty one to ten. The Colts handed to
Speaker 1: the Jets on national television, really embarrassed the franchise. Andelock
Speaker 1: ended up throwing four touchdowns of the game, no interceptions,
Speaker 1: sacked just once. Dwayne Allen had three of those four
Speaker 1: touchdown receptions. So everything the Colts um did, and let's
Speaker 1: start with the Colts, Chris Westling, everything that the Colts
Speaker 1: did on offense worked, Everything on defense worked. This was
Speaker 1: the perfect cults for Foremans, right. I don't think anyone
Speaker 1: on this podcast is going to take the position that
Speaker 1: the Colts are a good NFL team outside of the
Speaker 1: a f C South, keeping that in perspective, but they're
Speaker 1: getting better throughout the season. We have the salur taste
Speaker 1: in our mouths from September when their entire defenseeing to
Speaker 1: be banged up. I believe their four and one in
Speaker 1: their last five games with Andrew Luck as the starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: They're getting better throughout the season, and they're a much
Speaker 1: better team than the New York Jets. Yeah, let's let's
Speaker 1: start with the colt so we can talk about the
Speaker 1: Jets disaster. But Andrew Luck, even though those first two
Speaker 1: drives are what everyone's gonna remember, the receivers, especially Dayne Allen,
Speaker 1: were so wide open. The effort from the Jets and
Speaker 1: the confusion, it was just embarrassing. I would say the
Speaker 1: most embarrassing primetime game any teams had all year. Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck after that point made a lot of really impressive
Speaker 1: throws under pressure into tight windows, and it continues a trend.
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck is playing like a top three or four
Speaker 1: quarter are back right now. And I know it was
Speaker 1: the Jets, but those throws, it doesn't matter who you're
Speaker 1: making it against. I think the cult should feel really
Speaker 1: good about this. They did what they had to do,
Speaker 1: and I think they're in great position. I don't I
Speaker 1: don't like when people say, oh, well, it came against
Speaker 1: the Jets because what you did is you put up
Speaker 1: forty one points breaks barring one of the worst rules
Speaker 1: the NFL has, which you guys, Bill tweeted about last night,
Speaker 1: the fact that Jack Doyle is has that possession yanked
Speaker 1: away from the Cults. I mean that would have talked
Speaker 1: about a halftime exclamation went right before the half that
Speaker 1: touchdown that should have been I this was the Cults saying,
Speaker 1: look at the a f C South has issues, but
Speaker 1: we are here to tell you that we're not going
Speaker 1: to be ripped off the scene in the next week
Speaker 1: or two. The a f C South includes the Cults
Speaker 1: to the very end. I don't think any team and
Speaker 1: I count the Browns and I count the forty Niners
Speaker 1: would have lost the Jets in this night. So I
Speaker 1: have to keep it a little bit in perspective that
Speaker 1: the home team no showed completely. But if you if
Speaker 1: you're a Cults fan, you need you if you're feeling
Speaker 1: good right now, because they swept the Titans. They won
Speaker 1: in Lambeau t Y Hilton right now is the number
Speaker 1: two receiver in the NFL in yards and he's making
Speaker 1: deep plays. They have two good tight ends. They have
Speaker 1: moncrief back Gore's you know, gets the job done. They
Speaker 1: have a top five quarterback. I think this is a
Speaker 1: little bit of a dangerous team if you have a
Speaker 1: home game in the playoffs with this team. They have
Speaker 1: all sorts of things the Texans don't have. I just
Speaker 1: I think we're we're all kind of view that it's
Speaker 1: the Titans or the Cults that we would like to
Speaker 1: see come out of the South, not the Texans. And
Speaker 1: four it starts right at quarterback. I don't think it
Speaker 1: extends really beyond quarterback. Take the other fifty two players
Speaker 1: on the Texans over the players and the Colts, right
Speaker 1: Bob Lamy with that call? By the way, um uh said, Uh,
Speaker 1: let's now talk a little bit about the Jets, and
Speaker 1: why don't we start this time uh with the thoughts
Speaker 1: really for the last time this season, at least before
Speaker 1: we get to the free free agency from Keith hands
Speaker 1: is because the Jets don't deserve anything more from Keith
Speaker 1: has gone through enough. Let's hear from Keith. His name
Speaker 1: is Keith, his dad's dad. He'll doubt about it. He's
Speaker 1: a big Jets fan. What is he going to say
Speaker 1: about the game? Today. What is he going to sap
Speaker 1: the game today? A Monday night game is the showcase
Speaker 1: of the NFL for the week. And the Jets looked
Speaker 1: absolutely terrible. Uh one ten final. I think this game,
Speaker 1: the players, the coaches, and the organization, the owners all
Speaker 1: should be ashamed of themselves. In particular, players look like
Speaker 1: they quit. And there's nothing worse than pro football to
Speaker 1: see the tend to see that. And so it was
Speaker 1: a very uh scourging loss to see them just give
Speaker 1: up like that. That's it. Thanks that you've done to
Speaker 1: my dad? Do you be him on your New York Jets?
Speaker 1: This is um These the dark days are back in
Speaker 1: a big way for the Jets right now. And and
Speaker 1: I thought Rich to media vs Rich to Meoni, the
Speaker 1: beat right for ESPN, who has covered the team for
Speaker 1: years and years, said it well as the game was
Speaker 1: unfolding yesterday that there was the shades or there was
Speaker 1: an air of butt fumble uh at the at the
Speaker 1: meadow Lands, because it was one of those unique Jets
Speaker 1: nights where it just seems anything is possible in terms
Speaker 1: of embarrassment, in terms of how bad can get get?
Speaker 1: How bad can it get? Oh my god, it just
Speaker 1: got worse, and I thought the the the message is
Speaker 1: being sent by Jets fans that stadium was a third
Speaker 1: empty at the beginning of the game. It was half
Speaker 1: empty by halftime, and no one was there but Colts
Speaker 1: fans for the last quarter. Jets fans are done with it.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're back headed towards a rebuild, but
Speaker 1: we're we never had any moment of glory. It's not like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: we made our shot and we made our d playoff runner,
Speaker 1: we got two super Bowl we want a Super Bowl. No,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh you you kind had won ten games
Speaker 1: in a flukey way and now it's back into a
Speaker 1: deep rebuild. That's where they are right now. This is
Speaker 1: a nightmare situation and the quarterback position is at the
Speaker 1: heart of it. But there's a lot of issues right now,
Speaker 1: and even Todd Bowles, who I didn't have a big
Speaker 1: issue with, uh this season. I know it's been a
Speaker 1: bad year for a lot of people, but this game
Speaker 1: to me got me thinking, is Todd Bowles even safe
Speaker 1: because if these players quit and they go three and thirteen,
Speaker 1: watch out, well he was as potentially here. I don't
Speaker 1: think it should be, but I wouldn't rule anything out
Speaker 1: with what he Johnson based on his you know, track record.
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles was as furious as he's ever gonna be
Speaker 1: after that game, just saying how it was embarrassing to
Speaker 1: get your ass kicked. He said the words asked kicked
Speaker 1: about twenty different times. And when you're discouraging a guy
Speaker 1: who's usually so even keeled like Todd Bowles, and you're
Speaker 1: getting Keith Hansas, uh that down, and you're getting John Gruden,
Speaker 1: who loves football more than any announcer, to really hammer
Speaker 1: this team throughout the game and point out a fact
Speaker 1: that that fans don't don't want to hear. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's fair to point out that Bryce Petty, there's a
Speaker 1: reason he hasn't been on the field. He didn't look
Speaker 1: like he doesn't look like a guy that should be
Speaker 1: on the field starting NFL games. Okay, you want to
Speaker 1: see him, I get it. That's fine. He's a fourth
Speaker 1: round pick though, and Gruden point out watched the film
Speaker 1: of the first game. He's just they just don't have
Speaker 1: an option right now. Gino Smith was that option. It
Speaker 1: sounds strange, but they would have been a lot better,
Speaker 1: a lot better off with Gino Smith at least taking
Speaker 1: a look at him, because Petty the next four games.
Speaker 1: I mean, now you go to San Francisco. Not that
Speaker 1: we need to get into that, but it's like they're
Speaker 1: the worst team in the league right there. I disagree
Speaker 1: on Geno Smith. I disagree with John Gruden's statement that
Speaker 1: the Jets might bring back Gino Smith. Gino Smith is
Speaker 1: not the answer short term or the long term. And yeah,
Speaker 1: his point was just that Petty and not a guy
Speaker 1: you want playing football. That's why I think Petty should
Speaker 1: have gotten into this season two games ago, because if
Speaker 1: you're gonna take a look at him, take a look
Speaker 1: at him, and you know what, it's not gonna be pretty.
Speaker 1: And that's why the Jets might not win another game
Speaker 1: this year. But this is the position you are now
Speaker 1: in and it just there's no there's no good way
Speaker 1: to spend it there. And they have the worst quarterback situation,
Speaker 1: uh in the league to me. The Browns are right
Speaker 1: there obviously, but there's really not a lot of hope
Speaker 1: at the position right now. I mean, they're both the
Speaker 1: both of those quarterback positions are in such an abyss
Speaker 1: that it's it's not about one or two. I you
Speaker 1: know you're having a bad and you were singing during
Speaker 1: the Monday night football anthem about a better But my
Speaker 1: concern for the Jets would be this that you in
Speaker 1: the NFL cannot There is no quick fix team building
Speaker 1: and and the Tenants sixth season last year was not
Speaker 1: an utter mirage, but but a lot happened um in
Speaker 1: the right way where maybe it could have prevented some
Speaker 1: deeper team building maneuverings that that should have taken place.
Speaker 1: You need a younger roster, you need some guys to
Speaker 1: build around. You gotta give him a cagnet a chance.
Speaker 1: Charlie Castle was saying it on NFL Network and luck
Speaker 1: he was involved in this hiring so that it's worth noting.
Speaker 1: But he noted what an incredible rebuild it was two
Speaker 1: years ago, how Barren the entire roster was of anyone
Speaker 1: on the team that was valuable that the team had drafted.
Speaker 1: So you gotta give him time. I I totally agree
Speaker 1: with with more time. It's just that I think that
Speaker 1: the path out is not, Hey, let's go sign the
Speaker 1: next big guy that New Yorkers can get around and
Speaker 1: hope that it's the hope that it's well, whatever it is,
Speaker 1: especially necessarily, it's not. You're not one quarterback away. The
Speaker 1: New York Jots are are farther away than that, and you,
Speaker 1: if you want to do it right, sometimes you gotta
Speaker 1: take a step back to go forward. What do you
Speaker 1: do at quarterback? I mean, this idea that that Todd
Speaker 1: Bulls has to apologize when he sees Bryce Petty up
Speaker 1: close and personal every day and knows he's not ready
Speaker 1: to run an offense, he has to apologize for not
Speaker 1: playing him earlier is laughable. Bryce Petty isn't ready to play.
Speaker 1: Do you only get ready to play by playing? And
Speaker 1: it's not the only way you get there's actually when
Speaker 1: you're a fourth round pick. It came from a college
Speaker 1: offense nowhere close and the first team ups in practice
Speaker 1: and getting actual work in I mean, I think this
Speaker 1: is the only way to get a look at the
Speaker 1: guys to play him and get Ryan fitzpetrickta. To me,
Speaker 1: that's fine now that the season's totally lost and there's
Speaker 1: not a huge detriment, although they could put up performances
Speaker 1: like this for another four weeks, which is not gonna
Speaker 1: be There's an effort issue going on and that locker
Speaker 1: room as well, which is a really disturbing thing. It
Speaker 1: was telling you, but they they told you everything that
Speaker 1: you needed to know when they kept Gino Smith. You know,
Speaker 1: they they said, this is not a guy in Bryce
Speaker 1: Petty that we have particularly high hopes for it, and
Speaker 1: people thought he might get cut. He's a fourth round pick,
Speaker 1: which on average, you know, half of them don't make
Speaker 1: it to their third, you know, fourth season. I just
Speaker 1: gotta get a look at it. Well. One thing though, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just drafted a second round quarterback in the last draft,
Speaker 1: so I don't know how many more you guys are
Speaker 1: gonna keep drafting. I drafted and draft one last thing
Speaker 1: on the Jets stand. Sorry, but like I I feel
Speaker 1: for your data, feel for Jets fans, but I can't
Speaker 1: think of another team that gave up on a game
Speaker 1: like the Jets and last night. All season long, I've
Speaker 1: watched every Browns team and if you watch the Bears,
Speaker 1: even they are playing with more effort. That is a
Speaker 1: massive red flag for a GM and a coach. Massive
Speaker 1: red flag. If you draft a guy in the second round,
Speaker 1: don't you sort of expect that by December you can
Speaker 1: give him a shot to play in the fifth round
Speaker 1: normally asked. For whatever reason, Hackenberg kind of came in
Speaker 1: as this guy who is going to be a project.
Speaker 1: Whether that was smart or not. You know, in a
Speaker 1: draft where there was a lot of options and they
Speaker 1: made the somewhat controversial decision to keep four quarterbacks, which
Speaker 1: means he's not getting any look and work at all. Uh,
Speaker 1: except for the scout and it wasn't a good college
Speaker 1: quarter And we'll move on. But your point about Bowls
Speaker 1: is fair because that's a game. Woody Johnson is sitting
Speaker 1: there with the vice president elect of the country while
Speaker 1: the half empty crowd is booing what's left of a
Speaker 1: no team. It's the type of game that if it
Speaker 1: if it happens a few times at the vice president
Speaker 1: elect of Lease is used to that treatment at this point,
Speaker 1: but very true. Um, all right, great Monday night football game.
Speaker 1: Let's move on now. And uh, this is a segment
Speaker 1: and you could put any member of the Jets in this,
Speaker 1: but let's steer away from them now. Uh the name
Speaker 1: of this segment. Gentlemen, Hey, do you want to be
Speaker 1: in my shoes? No, thank you, I would rather be
Speaker 1: in some others. All right, Mark, get us going well,
Speaker 1: the shoes that I don't want to be in is
Speaker 1: the shoes of Blake Bortles, the Jaguars quarterback. Now that's
Speaker 1: almost potentially being too specific, because there aren't a lot
Speaker 1: of people inside that organization whose shoes I want to
Speaker 1: be in, But I think specifically, if you want to
Speaker 1: point to the most depressing aspect of what's happened to
Speaker 1: a team that had was heavily trumped up by members
Speaker 1: of this podcast, I'm pointing to myself for the past
Speaker 1: three years and really the media in general, a team
Speaker 1: people thought was just turning the corner and had a
Speaker 1: lot to do with everything we loved about Blake Bortles
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, the next big Ben Rah
Speaker 1: Rah rah. And instead we've got a player that has
Speaker 1: devolved into utter chaos on the field, and you never
Speaker 1: thought of all the team needs they might have that
Speaker 1: they might have to think about finding another quarterback this offseason.
Speaker 1: A lot of that pressure, a lot of that fault
Speaker 1: rests at the feet of Blake Bortles. I don't want
Speaker 1: to be at the feet or in the shoes He's
Speaker 1: gonna have to face some competition. Blake Bortles, I don't
Speaker 1: think they just hand them that job again. It's gonna
Speaker 1: Smith's gonna have to be a new there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a new coach. It's hard to really anticipate that it's
Speaker 1: gonna be up to that new coach. But it's hard
Speaker 1: to imagine that Blake Bortles is it's gonna coast into
Speaker 1: start him. You know, I don't think they're just gonna
Speaker 1: cast him out right. I mean that would the ultimate
Speaker 1: reversals if they cut ties with him and then move
Speaker 1: forward with what It's like Tom Coughlin pulls some sort
Speaker 1: of uh, you know, al Pacino any given Sunday move
Speaker 1: where he gets the Ji Guards job again. There's been
Speaker 1: whisperings of that, and then trades the first round pick
Speaker 1: for Eli Manning and then Blake Bortles is out the door.
Speaker 1: Put yourself in shot con shoes. You hired David Cobble
Speaker 1: and Gus Bradley, and we're very patient with them to
Speaker 1: bring about this rebuilding effort, and they sold you on
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles is the face of the franchise. Are you
Speaker 1: really going to give up on that investment in Blake
Speaker 1: Bortles or are you going to hire the best offensive
Speaker 1: coach the best quarterback grew. You can fix that delivery,
Speaker 1: or spend of off season trying to fix that delivery
Speaker 1: and hope you see two thousand fifteen Blake Bortles again
Speaker 1: next year. May maybe, but it wouldn't surprise you if
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles is the backup to Jake Cutler or Tony
Speaker 1: Romo and week one or something like that, Yes, it would. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't think Tony Romo would go to j not Romo,
Speaker 1: Cutler not a Roma because of the situation. I think
Speaker 1: Cutler would be too expensive to pair with Blake Portles.
Speaker 1: My feeling is that next August will be reading a
Speaker 1: lot of stories about how Blake bortles mechanics have been
Speaker 1: cleaned up by new offensive coordinator X or quarterback coach Y,
Speaker 1: and the Jaguars are confident he'll return to his two
Speaker 1: thousand fourteen form. That's what I said. I think he'll
Speaker 1: be this unquestioned storry going it's week one. I don't
Speaker 1: know if he'll keep the job, but that's that's how
Speaker 1: I see. I would put a sandwich on that, agreeing
Speaker 1: with you that Mark Sessler will be writing an article
Speaker 1: and at some point between May and August that Blake
Speaker 1: Portles has cleaned up his mechanics. Don't even think about that.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be putting your lap. You're gonna be right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to be in my shoes? No, thank you.
Speaker 1: I would rather be in some others west. This isn't
Speaker 1: too far away from Blake Portles. I don't want to
Speaker 1: be in Howie Roseman's shoes. WHOA how quickly things changed,
Speaker 1: swam through the muck and Meyer to come out clean.
Speaker 1: On the other side, they picked Carson Wentz, who is
Speaker 1: now going through some of the same issues Blake Bortles
Speaker 1: has with his delivery along looping wind up, the ball
Speaker 1: down at his waist. Uh. Last week's game against the Bengals,
Speaker 1: six passes bad at the line of scrimmage. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I've ever seen that before. Three intercepted, three
Speaker 1: more dropped by the Bengals. Could have been six interceptions
Speaker 1: and six six batted passes. He has regressed this week.
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson comes out and says his issues are strictly mechanics.
Speaker 1: Wentz comes out and says, no, no, it's not my mechanics.
Speaker 1: When you throw that many passes, things are gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's an issue. And I'm not saying that he's the
Speaker 1: same as Blake Bortles. I think that he he checks
Speaker 1: all of the boxes when we saw him in September.
Speaker 1: He's what you want. He's gonna be diligent in the classroom.
Speaker 1: He's committed the football. I think he checks a lot
Speaker 1: of the boxes. But then you also have a coach.
Speaker 1: I'm if you can't tell I can't get over this
Speaker 1: that he challenged a two yard can pleas and Doug
Speaker 1: Peterson that we saw in September, who looked like a
Speaker 1: bright coach. He's done some stupid things in the last month,
Speaker 1: and now Carson Wentz is on pace to shatter the
Speaker 1: Eagles single season pass attempts record as a rookie. That's
Speaker 1: not how you develop a quarterback. I think of Howie
Speaker 1: and what the team that they took over, and he's
Speaker 1: sort of in year one of making it a Howie
Speaker 1: team again. And maybe they'll win seven games, maybe they'll
Speaker 1: win six games. That's gonna be three or four games
Speaker 1: better than last year. I don't know about Wentz. I've
Speaker 1: seen enough in his rookie year that it's a lot
Speaker 1: more than a lot of really good quarterbacks. Show felt
Speaker 1: the same way about Blake Bortles after last year you
Speaker 1: were calling him your favorite quarterback to watch. Sure, but
Speaker 1: as a rookie, I think Wentz has has shown more
Speaker 1: and enough smart people, you know, within the Eagles and
Speaker 1: certainly outside, believe in this guy that that I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's a great thing to have Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a detriment. Think that's an asset. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The one real positive with Carson Wentz versus some rookies
Speaker 1: to come out and then the problem with them is
Speaker 1: you're not convinced after a couple of seasons the football
Speaker 1: is the number one priority. And that may be the
Speaker 1: case with Blake Bordles according to who you listen to.
Speaker 1: That with Wentz that's not the issue at all. But
Speaker 1: with with Bordles, we've seen the mechanics as a quarterback.
Speaker 1: If you have deep mechanical problems, it's not a guarantee
Speaker 1: that there's a way out of that. And that's a
Speaker 1: that's a that's a really concerning thing. With Greg you
Speaker 1: weren't hugely impressed with Derek Carr after his rookie season.
Speaker 1: I remember that, but it wasn't a mechanical issue. It
Speaker 1: was other stuff. Is because you didn't see you, You
Speaker 1: just didn't see. I was going to be horribly wrong,
Speaker 1: but he was. He would had one of the lowest
Speaker 1: yards per tempt in NFL history, in part I think
Speaker 1: because he was avoiding making mistakes, which is to his credit.
Speaker 1: He just kept everything simple and short. And they're throwing
Speaker 1: everything at Wentz, I think, and making it tough on him,
Speaker 1: and that's fine. They did it to Eli Manning. He
Speaker 1: was fine afterwards. If you're going to be a good quarterback,
Speaker 1: you'll be good. What. I don't want to throw too
Speaker 1: much on Eagles fans here. It's I'm probably being a
Speaker 1: little negative. I talked to Daniel Jeremiah right before this segment,
Speaker 1: and he pointed out there's as many similarities in Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz's delivery with Russell Wilson, who has a longer wind
Speaker 1: up with a quick release, as there are with Blake Bortles.
Speaker 1: I also, yeah, I don't feel bad for how either,
Speaker 1: because his favorite season is coming up. I mean, this
Speaker 1: guy is going to be active in February and March.
Speaker 1: That's what how He has been lives for some money,
Speaker 1: some trades, a little bit of everything. That's time. Mark.
Speaker 1: Would you want to be in his shoes? No, I
Speaker 1: would rather be in some others. I will talk about
Speaker 1: Rick Smith, the general manager of the Houston Texans, who
Speaker 1: is in a pickle. Well there's a common denominator here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: there always is. Um you know. I I am of
Speaker 1: the opinion, going back to statements made by ownership of
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans immediately after their embarrassing playoff stir last January,
Speaker 1: nice use of thank you, that Rick Smith was given
Speaker 1: an ultimatum, find me a quarterback or else. And Rick
Speaker 1: Smith did the best he could. And it's very hard,
Speaker 1: as many teams find out every every winter and early spring,
Speaker 1: to find a quarterback if you don't have one, especially
Speaker 1: if you can't do it through the draft, necessarily with
Speaker 1: a high, high pick to get one of the hot prospects.
Speaker 1: And Rick Smith took that um that that message sent
Speaker 1: by ownership and went and rolled the dice. I'm brock Oswidler,
Speaker 1: who by all accounts I would say right now, but
Speaker 1: anybody watches the game is as a disaster right now.
Speaker 1: They can't throw down field. He doesn't have touch. Uh,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a good release. He doesn't have good
Speaker 1: pocket presents. Uh, he does not produce. He's not a
Speaker 1: quarterback that's producing, and he's young. Not a good sign.
Speaker 1: When the owner tells everyone to leave the quarterback alone,
Speaker 1: that's like the last sign things are going. And it's
Speaker 1: also another sign that it did was the owner who
Speaker 1: was behind a lot of this in my opinion. Anyway,
Speaker 1: he's young, but he's not that young. He's twenty six
Speaker 1: right now. But the problem and why I don't want
Speaker 1: to be Rick Smith is what do you do for
Speaker 1: your Rick Smith? Because now you have uh to use
Speaker 1: a wess is Um a thirty seven million dollar boondoggle
Speaker 1: on your hands with brock Oswiler. It's really gonna limit
Speaker 1: you in terms of what you could do with resigning
Speaker 1: your own players going after another quarter you canna invest
Speaker 1: big on another quarterback when you have this monster salary
Speaker 1: as a backup. You're going to wash your hands of
Speaker 1: the season and say, you know what, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: brock Oslar one more shot with again great headlines next August. Oh,
Speaker 1: brock Oslar has figured things out this year? No, because
Speaker 1: Rick Smith, if he survives this season, which I think
Speaker 1: he will, won't survive if they have another bad season
Speaker 1: with Brock Oswell next year Catch twenty two. Don't want
Speaker 1: to be that guy. I can see this in this situation,
Speaker 1: if there could be change in Jacksonville, if there could
Speaker 1: be changed somewhere else, I could see the Texans doubling down,
Speaker 1: digging in really hard, and saying, listen, eight Bordles is
Speaker 1: essentially a rookie, just like these other quarterbacks. You only
Speaker 1: had a couple of starts coming in. We're gonna Brock
Speaker 1: cost while, We're gonna treat him like a a rookie,
Speaker 1: and we're going to you know, we're gonna build him
Speaker 1: up and we're gonna build around him, and it's gonna
Speaker 1: be an off season of flowery nonsense about Brock os
Speaker 1: Swiler and then suddenly colon September. Better have somebody. Uh well,
Speaker 1: unless you really believe in that backup quarterback in Houston,
Speaker 1: you might want to have a better option around. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna actually roll with Brock next year. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: Brock you can get rid of after two thousand seventeen
Speaker 1: in terms of his contract. Sorry, Brackets, that's true. Um,
Speaker 1: still get your money, buddy, and maybe you can draft
Speaker 1: someone another mid round pick. I mean, who knows you
Speaker 1: can start planning for that post two thousand seventeen. And
Speaker 1: if and if you're Rick Smith, though, you do have
Speaker 1: it in your mind that, oh I signed that big
Speaker 1: contract extension through twenty twenty. That money is guarantee need
Speaker 1: before this season. That was good timing by Old signing
Speaker 1: Plague Portals for thirty seven million. That's a heist. Come on,
Speaker 1: I don't feel bad for Rick Smith. The general Manner's
Speaker 1: job is to find a quarterback, and he's been trying
Speaker 1: for a lot of years to find a quarterback. All right, Hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to be that guy's shoes? No, thank you,
Speaker 1: I would rather be in some others. I was still
Speaker 1: on the fence between two guys here, but that music
Speaker 1: convinced me that Bob McAdoo, Ben McAdoo, is the right
Speaker 1: choice because that's the type of music. You can imagine.
Speaker 1: You can imagine Ben McAdoo rocking out to You can
Speaker 1: just see him in his basement like putting together his
Speaker 1: nine page laminated sheets of different plays, you know, and
Speaker 1: he's just like rock and he's like, man, it used
Speaker 1: to be so much more fun and Green Bay when
Speaker 1: I had Aaron Rodgers and everything, and it used to
Speaker 1: be fun when we were eight and three and beating
Speaker 1: on all those lousy teams. Because I don't think it's
Speaker 1: good to be the coach really of a paper tie
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, when he's in the basement, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: not good to be the coach of a paper tiger
Speaker 1: team on the edge of a cliff about to fall
Speaker 1: off as winter is coming, as West has said, because
Speaker 1: there there's there is no more, no more uncomfortable position
Speaker 1: than a free falling New York team, especially with an
Speaker 1: aging quarterback and a lot of expensive pieces and and
Speaker 1: the media so much more concerned with whatever O'Dell Betty does,
Speaker 1: and then the quarterback with a weak arm, and uh,
Speaker 1: and really I was trying to think of a guy
Speaker 1: who what shoes don't you want to be in? You
Speaker 1: don't want to be in the shoes when you're kind
Speaker 1: of at the top and things are about to get
Speaker 1: a lot worse. That's the worst because I don't think
Speaker 1: McAdoo has answers. That's the problem. I've got a lot
Speaker 1: of answers on that play script he's got with multiple
Speaker 1: pages flipped over, post it notes, hanging off eight four,
Speaker 1: let's come down here. Well, that's why I'm I'm paper
Speaker 1: Tigers correct. I'm putting almost a prediction in here because
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to be his next month is going
Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable when you lose to the Cowboys. When
Speaker 1: do you feel this is like m Johnson taking over
Speaker 1: the Dolphins at the end of Dan Reno's career, which
Speaker 1: ultimately just ended in Jimmy Johnson, you know, jumping ship.
Speaker 1: At some point, I would say, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: like bad shoes to be in and I know the
Speaker 1: Giants might have a struggle ahead, but a lot of
Speaker 1: people would love that's Todd Balls. He loved to be
Speaker 1: eighting four right now heading into the second week in December.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I like where Greg's that though, because
Speaker 1: according to Greg, which I don't think this is bad reason,
Speaker 1: Ben McAdoo has already reached the highest it's only gonna
Speaker 1: Balls can rebuild this jets and and get better. I
Speaker 1: would say this, here's what's in his what's in his corner,
Speaker 1: And it's not just the songs and tunes down in
Speaker 1: his basement and whoever he is he's talking on there.
Speaker 1: It sounds it sounds like himself, but that is an
Speaker 1: extremely patient organization that does not yank coaches. I don't
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get really fired. I also say, listen,
Speaker 1: I get I hear you with the Giants, and they're
Speaker 1: not They're not an eight and three team, and they're
Speaker 1: probably gonna get waxed maybe pre playoffs that they even
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. But they did make some improvements on defense,
Speaker 1: which was a major problem for recent Giants teams. There
Speaker 1: are a couple of young players to build around. I
Speaker 1: think the issue is if if Eli Manning's arm is
Speaker 1: actually permanently reduced from a strength and I'm not suggesting
Speaker 1: that anything's permanent, no, but if that's if that seems
Speaker 1: to be the way it is going forward, then you've
Speaker 1: got lingering issues. I know, what's your thoughts on Victor Cruz,
Speaker 1: who says, I am not complaining about my reduced role
Speaker 1: in this offense. I am not throwing up his thing.
Speaker 1: I'm a good teammate, Victor Cruz. Your thoughts? Who's Victor Cruz? Oh,
Speaker 1: he's the Mr Sassaman. What's the average like one catch
Speaker 1: a game this year? Let's treat him like an All Pro?
Speaker 1: Christopher Mark, you asked that, you know who is the
Speaker 1: other option? It was gonna be Joe Chargers fan. I
Speaker 1: would not want to be a Chargers fan for the
Speaker 1: next or the second straight year they're gonna get stuck
Speaker 1: with Is this the final game in our fifties seven
Speaker 1: year history or not. I don't even know that. The
Speaker 1: fact that the fact that that's an annual occurrence now
Speaker 1: and their team is could very well be yanked away
Speaker 1: right when they have a nice looking roster. Find me
Speaker 1: another fan base that have seven years and then had
Speaker 1: their team taken away. I don't think there is one.
Speaker 1: You know, the worst thing you can say to charge
Speaker 1: of fans like you guys will be okay, the weather
Speaker 1: is great down there, Tacos have a taco. I had
Speaker 1: to throw that in there to set up my whole book,
Speaker 1: the plan that's oh as if that's not all? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like halfway through Draft two. NFL Networks, Greg Rosenthal,
Speaker 1: that is it for um for that segment. Good segment, guys,
Speaker 1: Good segond All right, let's talk to Thursday night football preview.
Speaker 1: Uh the Oakland Raiders traveling to Kansas City and Greg,
Speaker 1: could you remind me a little bit briefly about what
Speaker 1: happened the first time these two teams played. This is
Speaker 1: where I wish I had my other early season notebook.
Speaker 1: I could just flip through and find out what I said.
Speaker 1: But let me tell you, the Chiefs defense especially dropped
Speaker 1: a bomb on the Raiders. Really the only game all
Speaker 1: season I can think of where the Raiders were dominated physically.
Speaker 1: It was a bad weather game. Spencerwear ran all over them.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs defense really pushed Oakland around. It was to
Speaker 1: ten and and I don't even know if that score
Speaker 1: shows how lack non competitive it was. If that was
Speaker 1: the only game you watched that year, you would think
Speaker 1: these are the two thousand thirteen Raiders. So it was
Speaker 1: a really impressive performance by Kansas City. Should we expect
Speaker 1: more of the same or this going to be a
Speaker 1: totally different game on Thursday in Kansas City? Well, I
Speaker 1: agree with Greg. That was one of the most impressive
Speaker 1: one side of victories of the season between two good teams.
Speaker 1: But the Raiders are different. They now have the stronger
Speaker 1: running game between the two teams, and their offense is
Speaker 1: getting better. It seems every week I think the Raiders
Speaker 1: are They're hitting their stride offensively, and I don't think
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are, although we do expect Jeremy Macklin to
Speaker 1: come back, and that is that cannot be oversold. He
Speaker 1: is a difference maker for their their offense. I think
Speaker 1: there is probably not a tougher assignment than to go
Speaker 1: play a good Chiefs team in Kansas City in prime time,
Speaker 1: that is on a in a short week. That is rough.
Speaker 1: These teams know each other well though. And yes, maybe
Speaker 1: Kansas City played the most physical game against Oakland the
Speaker 1: first time around, but I'd ask you to go watch
Speaker 1: the Bills game because Buffalo beat up Oakland. They beat
Speaker 1: up Oakland's defense, and they controlled both both lines early
Speaker 1: in that game. They were up twenty four to nine.
Speaker 1: And I found that what might be different about this
Speaker 1: Raiders team last Sunday Verse the Week five loss to
Speaker 1: the Chiefs the Weeks six loss, is that mid game
Speaker 1: Oakland picked up the pieces, found a way out of
Speaker 1: their problems, and poured it on offensively. I think this
Speaker 1: this Raiders team cannot be You can shut them down
Speaker 1: for a half, it's not gonna shut them down. Score
Speaker 1: so fast. They're almost like the Panthers last year. When
Speaker 1: they score it's like an avalanche. Victoruchi from the Buffalo
Speaker 1: Times sit and this is not the first case, this
Speaker 1: is every first time this has happened. The Rex Ryan
Speaker 1: that he looked at in quotes absolutely stunned after that loss.
Speaker 1: I don't think Rex Ryan had any idea what happened
Speaker 1: to him. How impressive was what the Raiders did down
Speaker 1: nine and then just went off. And one more thing,
Speaker 1: Kansas City has won four or five at home. They
Speaker 1: had that weird blip on the radar against Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: but otherwise they're always a good home team. The Raiders
Speaker 1: are one of only three teams in the league that
Speaker 1: are undefeated there five and oh on the road. So
Speaker 1: the Raiders not only are they getting it done in
Speaker 1: their building, uh, they they're really good on the road.
Speaker 1: They don't wilt this. This is a really good team that,
Speaker 1: like West said, I think is hitting the stride. And
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pick against him. I I will.
Speaker 1: I I think they're better team than the Chiefs, but
Speaker 1: I think playing on the road and Narrowhead and the
Speaker 1: crowd noise there and then the pass rushers that Kansas
Speaker 1: City has. Now, so you you have justin Houston, who
Speaker 1: who's as a million sacks. The last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: You have d Ford back, and you have Tom Bali,
Speaker 1: who's been making some noise now finally the last few weeks.
Speaker 1: So this is car hasn't been used to getting much
Speaker 1: pressure that they're gonna get some pressure on him, at
Speaker 1: least at home, a tough spot. Khalil Mack could win
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year and be the second best
Speaker 1: pass rusher in this game. That's a fair point. I mean,
Speaker 1: justin Houston people, I mean people two years ago, he
Speaker 1: was as good as any player not named a J.
Speaker 1: Watt in the league defensively. I I do wonder, um,
Speaker 1: I do wonder what the Chiefs like can if it
Speaker 1: is a shootout, can they win that type of game? Well,
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs if anything, I would say absolutely not.
Speaker 1: Except then then then comes the Falcons game from last week,
Speaker 1: and you have to say they use creativity, They used
Speaker 1: the weapons they had in the best way possible. Andy
Speaker 1: Reid is doing a phenomenal coaching job and the only
Speaker 1: way I think Oakland wins this. I'm gonna pick Oakland,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say this is gonna happen in a
Speaker 1: way that is not not flukey, but Oakland's won some
Speaker 1: games where you say, well, what, how did that happen?
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna happen on Thursday night in a
Speaker 1: game where the Kansas City Chiefs to dominate large portions
Speaker 1: of the game. Sounds like Karl Joseph is not going
Speaker 1: to play. That's a guy you would think would would
Speaker 1: be part of the group covering Travis Kelsey. I think
Speaker 1: they've made a point instead of this, like let's see
Speaker 1: if it's a Travis Kelsey game or not. Hey, let's
Speaker 1: just give the ball to Travis Kelsey seven times every
Speaker 1: week because he's got four yard games I think in
Speaker 1: the last five or five or six, and he he
Speaker 1: is something else after the catch, he's wild. If you're
Speaker 1: if you're Oakland and they're sitting pretty is the number
Speaker 1: one seed right now and they're being celebrated for that,
Speaker 1: you know, rightfully. But if you lose this game, you've
Speaker 1: been swept by Kansas City. You're now tied with Kansas
Speaker 1: City in the a f C West, and after that
Speaker 1: game you're the five seed. You have to go on
Speaker 1: the road to San Diego, which is a freaky team.
Speaker 1: You don't know what's gonna happen there. You host the
Speaker 1: Cults and then you go on the road to Denver
Speaker 1: in week seventeen. You it is you're setting the table
Speaker 1: for a tumble if you don't take care of business.
Speaker 1: I think the urgency will be there for Oakland, and
Speaker 1: I after seeing what car leading that that charge in
Speaker 1: the second half, that he's my new m v P favorite.
Speaker 1: I like Derek Carr. This is a huge game. I
Speaker 1: I think in the m v P race, like if
Speaker 1: he has this on a national time, stay prime time
Speaker 1: against the top, I expect him to deliver another big
Speaker 1: performance and and become the favorite. In my mind. West
Speaker 1: picked this game, sir, I'm gonna pick the home team.
Speaker 1: And the only strong feeling I have about this game
Speaker 1: is that I don't understand how anybody has a strong
Speaker 1: feeling on who's gonna win this game. Now, I'm with you, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, no matter what year it is, the Raiders
Speaker 1: and Chiefs are two teams that know each other so well.
Speaker 1: This is just your classic late season to game. But
Speaker 1: I think the reason I have a strong feeling is
Speaker 1: that it's not scientific. It's not scientific, but the Oakland.
Speaker 1: Oakland has the feel of one of those teams that
Speaker 1: just every week you think something's gonna happen to knock
Speaker 1: him off, and they find a way to win. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say it's a strong feeling based on Hey, player X,
Speaker 1: player Z gonna attack each other this way. It's just
Speaker 1: that Oakland's kind of just feeling it. Wes. You know
Speaker 1: that the Raiders have my heart. Yes, the heart wants
Speaker 1: with the heart wants, I feel strongly because I believe
Speaker 1: in this team and I love this team. Here here's
Speaker 1: my strong feeling. People are getting all excited about Jack
Speaker 1: del Rio Coach of the Year. I get it. That's fine.
Speaker 1: Give me Andy Reid, Give me the same two teams
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, and Andy Reid is
Speaker 1: gonna win that game over Jack del Rio's team. This award, right,
Speaker 1: it's the whole, the whole award Siste from top to bottom,
Speaker 1: could not be more ridiculous, widely claimed the greatest coach
Speaker 1: of all time. You know, just like Tom. We have
Speaker 1: the same conversation last week. Tom sleeps, okay without every
Speaker 1: trophy in the world, ridiculous never wins it. I don't
Speaker 1: think Bill sleeps okay. Uh, there's our Thursday Night preview.
Speaker 1: You don't think Bill sleep. I think he's right. He
Speaker 1: does not strike me as a guy who's just like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm good, Tom, I'm cool. I'm cool, like
Speaker 1: I'm just I got no worries. I'm Bill Belding. I
Speaker 1: think he worries about Yeah, Tom Brady probably has a
Speaker 1: sleep coach before before we go as we said before.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, so many things about two thousand sixteen on
Speaker 1: my radar. One thing that's not is every time this
Speaker 1: man joins us from his haunted match and that he
Speaker 1: pays a mortgage. John uh in the Hillside of New
Speaker 1: Jersey Connor or What's up Fellas, Yes Jersey Satellite here
Speaker 1: Around the NFL News writer, Um Connor, it's been it's
Speaker 1: been a bit. You sent out the bat signal on
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving night with a couple of texts that I suspected
Speaker 1: came from a saucy state of mind. Is that accurate? Um?
Speaker 1: And you said you had something you needed to tell
Speaker 1: the world about, So where where better than the stage
Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL podcast in our latest edition
Speaker 1: of Or You kidding Me? What's on your mind? What's
Speaker 1: grinding your gears? Connor? I don't know if anyone else
Speaker 1: saw this commercial on Thanksgiving where these grandparents are reading
Speaker 1: tweets from their granddaughters. It's about to come over to
Speaker 1: their house, and she's like, oh, my grandparents don't have WiFi,
Speaker 1: Like keep pounding, I can't watch my favorite Chills and
Speaker 1: like these poor people, she said, keep pounding. No, no,
Speaker 1: that's what millennials say, though, And um uh, you know,
Speaker 1: these poor old people are forced into this like awful
Speaker 1: cable package just so they're stupid granddaughter can come over
Speaker 1: and play like World of Warcraft at their house. It's
Speaker 1: absolutely infuriating. Who runs this house anyway? I pay the bills.
Speaker 1: So what you're saying, Connor, is that the children are
Speaker 1: dictating the cable package over some silly online video game.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that this old lady survived freaking Vietnam, like
Speaker 1: her husband was out there hounding the pounding the sand
Speaker 1: and killing people and trying to fight for this country.
Speaker 1: And this and this girl she cares about is like Snapchat,
Speaker 1: It's it's horrible. Just talk to your grandparents. I think
Speaker 1: he's saying that she lives through. Take difference between survived
Speaker 1: and lived through that was a quite a weird. I
Speaker 1: mean a riff there, Connor. I think you you have
Speaker 1: an issue with a millennials. And uh, isn't Connor a millennial?
Speaker 1: Well he is, but he isn't. But I think be entitlement.
Speaker 1: You don't like entitlement and grandparents who've been through real
Speaker 1: life getting pushed around by some child that can't live
Speaker 1: without technology for an hour. That's what I'm saying. Man.
Speaker 1: My grandmother used to cut the heads off chickens for
Speaker 1: a living. If I told her to go get WiFi,
Speaker 1: she hit me with a shelf. She was a chicken
Speaker 1: head cutter. Hell yeah, get over your chicken, your last over. Um,
Speaker 1: So you're Even though this happened in a commercial and
Speaker 1: our overseas listeners probably never seen it, that doesn't matter
Speaker 1: that I must have seen that no one ever heard
Speaker 1: ask a question, why can't that little kid get a phone?
Speaker 1: Why do they have to order a cable pack? The
Speaker 1: whole commercial was like absolutely pathetic and like these grandparents
Speaker 1: at the end or like I'm so happy we did
Speaker 1: this to like connected, Like you don't have to do that, man,
Speaker 1: Like you know you you you created all this stuff
Speaker 1: so that that that little malcontent can live in this planet.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm feeling this, so this is more a
Speaker 1: rap against technology. It's almost like a this like the
Speaker 1: black Mirror episode of Connor Ores Or You're kidding me
Speaker 1: and watch out for technology, because while you think it's
Speaker 1: making life better, it might be quite the opposite. I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I just hope they didn't have to
Speaker 1: spend any money because you know they needed for like,
Speaker 1: you know, old people's stuff. You know that you don't
Speaker 1: need to be spending money on on on WiFi for
Speaker 1: dumb little kids. That's ridiculous. Yeah, I'm hearing more of
Speaker 1: a rant against helicopter parents and indulging every whim of
Speaker 1: a child helicopter grandparenting. I'll tell you what, Connor, you
Speaker 1: definitely took this issue to the right group, especially the
Speaker 1: kissing cousins right up there out Greg, you haven't said
Speaker 1: anything yet. I did this to his grandparents. And he's
Speaker 1: sitting up he's back into a corner here, and I
Speaker 1: can see that. I was wondering if if anything last
Speaker 1: night at the game that you to kind of caught
Speaker 1: your ire I. I feel like that was a recipe
Speaker 1: for or you getting me at the meadow Lands. I
Speaker 1: loved it. I mean, I love. I love like you know,
Speaker 1: moments that just define like insanity. I mean that that
Speaker 1: game was was quite possibly the end of a coach's
Speaker 1: career and just like a total prime time ask kicking.
Speaker 1: What's not to love about that? That? That was great?
Speaker 1: What was the because ESPN and I wrote about this
Speaker 1: on end Around today. Um, by the second quarter, ESPN
Speaker 1: scrambling to keep people interested, was just panning around the
Speaker 1: meadowlands finding sad jets fans. Um. What was the saddest
Speaker 1: thing you saw at the game? Um? I would have
Speaker 1: to say, I mean just the fact that, like the
Speaker 1: crowd suddenly came to life when two topless, like twenty
Speaker 1: two year old boys got tackled on the terraf fact streaking.
Speaker 1: But uh, A close second to that would be Todd
Speaker 1: Bowles clearly never telling Ryan Fit's pratt trick that he
Speaker 1: had taken his last nap, and then Ryan Fitzpatrick standing
Speaker 1: right behind the curtain, next in line for the press conference,
Speaker 1: and then he just goes, oh, yeah, well I guess
Speaker 1: I guess that's it, you know, And that's how it works,
Speaker 1: you know, buddy. He uh balls did apologize today for
Speaker 1: saying he could have handled that aspect a little bit better.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, your your boy Semini. Connor said that there
Speaker 1: was an air of butt fumble at the Meadow Ends.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're covering the Jets when the
Speaker 1: butt film ball occurred four years ago. I was, I
Speaker 1: was at butt fumble, and uh, I will say that. Uh.
Speaker 1: There was a large focus on not but but asked
Speaker 1: last night, which Todd Bowle said thirteen times counted in
Speaker 1: his press conference. We sent, we sent kind of the
Speaker 1: right game. Yeah yeah, this was this was this was askate,
Speaker 1: This was this, This had all the trappings of an
Speaker 1: ask kick. I feel like we need a Christmas version
Speaker 1: of are you kidding me? Eve? For for the how
Speaker 1: about that kind of can you come back the week
Speaker 1: of Christmas and give us maybe a little um you know,
Speaker 1: you'le tide version of or you kidding me? Danny? For you?
Speaker 1: It's perfect timing. You know, people feeling the joy of
Speaker 1: the holidays, Take them down a notch, bring them back
Speaker 1: to where things really exist, because if nothing else, Connor
Speaker 1: as a man that brings society uh to its knees
Speaker 1: with reality. That's it? Or you kidding me? You're still there? Connor?
Speaker 1: I am keep bounded all right, there goes Connor or
Speaker 1: we will be back on Thursday recapping the Oakland Kansas
Speaker 1: City game right at the top of the show, one
Speaker 1: of the best games of the year game. I am
Speaker 1: absolutely certain about my pick. You're a fool for thinking
Speaker 1: that Oakland Kansas City at the top of the show,
Speaker 1: and then uh no more buys, folks. So then we
Speaker 1: will preview fifteen games on the NFL schedule for week
Speaker 1: fourteen as we head towards the end of the regular season.
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Speaker 1: at the end. Also, people are gonna know the show's
Speaker 1: on Thursday. This is Dan Handsons signing off for a
Speaker 1: quiet Storm, the mail Man, the Boss and New Money
Speaker 1: behind the Glass again till Thursday. That's where the show is.
Speaker 1: He's buried in Culver City, by the way, right underneath
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