Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast, Making America great Again. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up? Boys? Oh yeah? Election Day? It's
Speaker 1: the Election Day podcast? Is this the political podcast? This
Speaker 1: is our politics podcast. I'm gonna save that for the
Speaker 1: politics podcast. Let's save it. This is right. It feels
Speaker 1: like that if we ever were going to have one,
Speaker 1: today would be a logical day. Why do you say
Speaker 1: that the election? Well, it is a big day. That's
Speaker 1: your only factor. It's awesome. What's a big day for
Speaker 1: America too? Kevin Patrick's birthday? Fork in the Road game?
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Speaker 1: I wonder if you catch day off from lifting on
Speaker 1: his birthday? Now, you never do that. He got to
Speaker 1: start off a new year of your life by losing
Speaker 1: yourself discipline. Well, he fell love. He fell in love
Speaker 1: in his prior year. So I mean I feel like
Speaker 1: things are going in a good trajectory. This is my
Speaker 1: uh um last show. Uh until Sunday. I won't be
Speaker 1: doing the Thursday show. Because boys, I got a boy
Speaker 1: on the way tomorrow. It's going down hands part two,
Speaker 1: Hands this part two. That's what you're naming him. Uh,
Speaker 1: we have a name in mind? Did you already have
Speaker 1: a son Jack for a new listeners? So he Jack
Speaker 1: would be the part one, Part zero, Part zero. I suppose, Um,
Speaker 1: I have a name Emily, and I have a name
Speaker 1: picked out. My wife said she wants to wait until
Speaker 1: she sees the baby before she decides that is the
Speaker 1: name to go with, which, again, to me, almost all
Speaker 1: babies look exactly the same when they're born, so I
Speaker 1: don't get that. But that's a mom thing. It's a
Speaker 1: mother thing. Got her that space. At the same time,
Speaker 1: I still have a brief window of about twenty four
Speaker 1: hours or inside twenty four hours. Um, to come up
Speaker 1: with some other names. If you guys have any in
Speaker 1: this room, I think we do go ahead. Well, why
Speaker 1: don't we save it? I want to save it for
Speaker 1: a little later later. I mean, we wouldn't have suggestions.
Speaker 1: Why were the kissing cousins looking at each other? Did
Speaker 1: you guys like figure this out together? No? I didn't
Speaker 1: think that my suggestion should go first. Okay, because it's
Speaker 1: not a leaf hitter you want it, you wanted to
Speaker 1: close with yours. No, it's more of a two whole
Speaker 1: hit or move the runners along. Now, I came with
Speaker 1: a handful, and I mean, I'm assuming you're gonna pick
Speaker 1: the one you like most and Emily will just slide
Speaker 1: in and agree with whatever we come up with. I
Speaker 1: never know things, things can get crazy and if it's
Speaker 1: a now, if it's a bit like for instance, because
Speaker 1: of the election, I've heard seven oh you should name
Speaker 1: your baby Trump Hansas bits. You know I'm a little
Speaker 1: over that bit. So not no political bits didn't come
Speaker 1: with that. Wasn't a good bit to begin with. No,
Speaker 1: not a good bit didn't come with that. Alright. Today's
Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast, sponsored of course by Mr Flames.
Speaker 1: That can Momi's class in the Hague the Netherlands. Big
Speaker 1: show to get to uh to dig into today the
Speaker 1: Monday night football game between the Seahawks and Bills, one
Speaker 1: of the best of the season, if not, dare I
Speaker 1: say the best primetime game all year. So we'll break
Speaker 1: down everything in that game. We'll hit up some news,
Speaker 1: um we will also you know, we're the mid season
Speaker 1: point now, all games all teams have played at least
Speaker 1: half their schedule. So we will make some more sandwich props,
Speaker 1: two props each at the mid season point as we
Speaker 1: look ahead to the second half of the season. And
Speaker 1: then the plant tasted gross and uh hit up the
Speaker 1: TNF preview Browns versus Ravens, and of course and we can.
Speaker 1: Of course, we're not going to forget this. Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: like a true broadcaster, teased on Sunday's podcast that he
Speaker 1: had a big announcement to make on the team of
Speaker 1: a t L So that's coming. Uh. I mean, we
Speaker 1: are where we are, We'll find out what it is
Speaker 1: we'll be we'll be next what is Alright, but let's
Speaker 1: start with a little Monday night football from the link
Speaker 1: in Seattle. Uh. Just a tremendous primetime game of game.
Speaker 1: As Greg you noted in your excellent debrief column, the
Speaker 1: NFL really needed in terms of a shot in the arm. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Seattle Seahawks and Buffalo Bills played a game that
Speaker 1: went right down to the wire. Russell Wilson playing tremendous football,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham looking like the Jimmy Graham we remember to
Speaker 1: first half touchdown passes, both one handed, and then Tyrod
Speaker 1: Teller looking like he was every bit worth the investment
Speaker 1: the Bills made it in him and then some keeping
Speaker 1: Bills within striking distance late into the game, even after
Speaker 1: the Bills got jobbed at the end of the first half,
Speaker 1: which we'll get to some refereers, but this is how
Speaker 1: the game ended, with the Bills facing a fourth and
Speaker 1: goal from uh I believe the twenty yard line or
Speaker 1: they're about Taylor Aft. He's a backfield they gotta go for.
Speaker 1: Bro takes the shotgun. Staff three man rots. He's gonna
Speaker 1: fly left, he looks, he fires in the Z. HiT's incomplete.
Speaker 1: Fit's incomplete, No flats. Fritz holds, and Seattle is gonna win.
Speaker 1: Holy Catfish, What a game? What a stand by the
Speaker 1: Seattle Dune. Steve Rabel k I r O Final score
Speaker 1: thirty one, twenty five Chris Westling. Steve Rabel from k
Speaker 1: I r O. His voice sounds eerily similar to Connor
Speaker 1: Or's Kate pounding voice. Maybe he should take a job
Speaker 1: with the Panthers next year. Chris Westling, you wrote up
Speaker 1: are what we learned? What did you learn from this game?
Speaker 1: We already said it was the best primetime game of
Speaker 1: the year, and that's because it featured some of the
Speaker 1: league's best players in there and their finest moments of
Speaker 1: the season. Russell Wilson's first half was as well as
Speaker 1: he's throwing the ball all year. Jimmy Graham, I was
Speaker 1: just thinking about this as I was recalling the highlights.
Speaker 1: Had one of the best games I've ever seen a
Speaker 1: tight end half. It was phenomenal that the degree of
Speaker 1: difficulty on these catches, with Bill's defenders trying to hold
Speaker 1: his left hand the whole time. They literally I were
Speaker 1: holding his left hand in the two touchdowns, the hurdle
Speaker 1: over Stephen Gilmour to get his team fired up and
Speaker 1: show that he's back from his knee injury. It might
Speaker 1: not be Kellen Winslow in the overtime game against the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: but one of the best tight end games you'll see,
Speaker 1: and yet the Bill's defense responded in the second half
Speaker 1: the Seahawks after I believe that first drive of the
Speaker 1: second half, UH didn't get as much going on offense.
Speaker 1: We kind of thought we I was here watching it
Speaker 1: with you West, this game might end up in a blowout.
Speaker 1: But what was fun about it was Tyrod Taylor matched Wilson.
Speaker 1: I mean he had that one interception which was a miscommunication,
Speaker 1: but other than that, Tyrod had his best game of
Speaker 1: the year. And did they there? They play a fun style.
Speaker 1: I mean when he is shaking Cliff Avril, who's a
Speaker 1: great pass rusher, like it's nothing like just okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: I'll go see you over there. I'll just run right
Speaker 1: path you and whiz one right down the sideline. It's
Speaker 1: fun to watch, you guys. I watched this game and
Speaker 1: agree with you. We needed a prime time game like this,
Speaker 1: and it delivered in full in a matchup that if
Speaker 1: you looked at the season in back in week one,
Speaker 1: you would not It's an odd matchup and it's intrigued,
Speaker 1: but you would not have pinpointed this as that game.
Speaker 1: And it delivered in every possible way. And I don't
Speaker 1: typically I don't want to just pat you guys on
Speaker 1: the back all the time. But the right ups when
Speaker 1: you look at West is what we learned, and it
Speaker 1: goes now a big points deep. It's because this game
Speaker 1: had so many things happening. You mentioned Lashawn McCoy rising
Speaker 1: up as a potential m v P named Jimmy Graham
Speaker 1: and also the officiating that was buried in this thing
Speaker 1: because there were so many other things happening. But Greg,
Speaker 1: you wrote it right up on the insanity before the half,
Speaker 1: let's get into because it was the Seahawks are really
Speaker 1: going nuts on offense. The Bills were in Seattle territory
Speaker 1: and attempting to get a late field goal to cut
Speaker 1: it to one score before the half, fifty three yard
Speaker 1: attempt for Dan Carpenter. Richard Sherman blazes off size and
Speaker 1: off sides and rams into Carpenter, who gets, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: knocked to the turf, writhes around and pain for a
Speaker 1: couple of seconds. Looks like he was hamming it up
Speaker 1: uh to get a get a call, And because the
Speaker 1: sideline trainer for the Bills, it was a chain reaction.
Speaker 1: So Carpenter feigns a serious injury. The sideline trainer sees
Speaker 1: him writhing rinse on the field. Only the Bills don't
Speaker 1: have another time out, so the the officials make their
Speaker 1: first mistake by only calling an off sides and not
Speaker 1: a personal foul on Richard Sherman, which means that then
Speaker 1: they're in play. Is a penalty on the Bills for
Speaker 1: sending someone onto the field when they didn't have a
Speaker 1: time out. So the endgame is that the kicker had
Speaker 1: to leave the field for one play with three seconds
Speaker 1: and they only got five yards out of it. And
Speaker 1: to Rex's credit and his coaching staff, they have these
Speaker 1: smarts to then say, okay, let's spike the ball. Don't
Speaker 1: have smarts to bring the offense back on the field
Speaker 1: to spike the ball. Got a little dicey there with
Speaker 1: having some not yeah, but anyway, they brought They spiked
Speaker 1: the ball down to one second that allows their kicker
Speaker 1: to come back on the field. Then the refs blow
Speaker 1: to second time, as Dino Blandino would tell us, by
Speaker 1: not getting away from the ball in time and not
Speaker 1: giving them a free full game clock. Uh to get
Speaker 1: a kickoff and the Bills get flagged again Maron uh
Speaker 1: well for the first time, this time for a delay
Speaker 1: of game back to the fifty four yard mark and
Speaker 1: then he misses wide right and just an absolute mess
Speaker 1: of a situation. Do I get all that right? It
Speaker 1: was tough to write that post. I had just wondering.
Speaker 1: I had to start just numbering it to say here's
Speaker 1: what happened in order because it was very confusing what happened.
Speaker 1: But what's not confusing is that every time there's a
Speaker 1: Monday night game in Seattle, it seems like Dean Blandina
Speaker 1: is apologizing for some officials error afterwards. Last year, you
Speaker 1: remember the bat out of the end of the end
Speaker 1: zone against the Lions kJ right, that was a big mistake.
Speaker 1: And then fail Mary of course back in two thousand
Speaker 1: twelve and everything goes to Seahawks way. Everything seems to
Speaker 1: work out for the Seahawks, and the Seahawks fans were
Speaker 1: irate on Twitter that that they were trying to defend
Speaker 1: the Richard Sherman penalty. It's like, come on, I did
Speaker 1: a radio segment today and the question they asked me
Speaker 1: was whether refs are making these huge mistakes in Seattle
Speaker 1: because the out as a factor. And I laughed the
Speaker 1: guy off the air. I was like, what are you talking?
Speaker 1: This is why I was fired, this is why barry
Speaker 1: the reparation and against at number nine and nine points.
Speaker 1: I know maybe this might be annoying if you're my boss,
Speaker 1: but I can't stand these the griping the next day
Speaker 1: over the calls. Just get over a football game happened.
Speaker 1: So then Sherman has an interception early in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: starts jawing at Rex, and then Rex had this to
Speaker 1: say after the game, Well, no, he's mean mugging like
Speaker 1: he's doing and you know whatever. But you know, guys
Speaker 1: a great player. It was a ridiculous play, no question.
Speaker 1: Then he's over on the sideline basically taunting us. So
Speaker 1: I had some words. I mean, I think I said that,
Speaker 1: you know, you're too good a player to act like
Speaker 1: a like an ass, which to which Pete cal responded
Speaker 1: with this, I just wish you'd coach his own team.
Speaker 1: That's it. Just coach your own guest. Hey, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm a Rex guy kind of, but I'm on Rex's
Speaker 1: side on this. I think everything that everything he wasn't
Speaker 1: he was wronged on this night, servant. There was a
Speaker 1: dirty hit. I've killed Rex, you know, ten thousand times,
Speaker 1: but I completely vibed with his frustration, and I you listen,
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman is a provocatory. He knows what he is
Speaker 1: and he and he's certainly in that moment after what
Speaker 1: they dealt with before halftime. Rex Ryan did a great
Speaker 1: coaching job to get this team to come into Seattle
Speaker 1: and play with this kind of energy. It was a
Speaker 1: fascinating game because they were prepared, and I was one
Speaker 1: of the people that laughed at the coordinator switch earlier
Speaker 1: in the year. This offense is exciting to watch to
Speaker 1: deal with exactly some of the drives that they put
Speaker 1: together were Rex Ryan dreams, and so I give the
Speaker 1: Bills a lot of credit the same way that the
Speaker 1: Falcons went into Seattle lost a game, but it made
Speaker 1: you think almost more of the Falcons. I feel that
Speaker 1: way about the Bills to some degree. And then one
Speaker 1: last thing, I think it's a lesson that sometimes these
Speaker 1: trades that go down, you can't judge them. After one season,
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy, Jimmy Graham, We're starting to see incredible production
Speaker 1: from both guys, and maybe you gotta be a little
Speaker 1: bit more patient with some of these swaps to promising
Speaker 1: showing for the Bill's offense, certainly, but then you balance
Speaker 1: that out with the loss of Eric would whom their center,
Speaker 1: whom whom Rex Ryan said he believes is the best
Speaker 1: center in football and one of the big keys to
Speaker 1: the running game which is so successful. And I think
Speaker 1: you have to be a little concerned if you're the
Speaker 1: Seahawks in terms of their defense, I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: get it together. But there was a point in this
Speaker 1: game they had given up I think ten or eleven
Speaker 1: scoring drives out of out of fourteen. I mean that
Speaker 1: the Saints scored six straight times on them. Uh and
Speaker 1: and the Bills went up and down the field on him.
Speaker 1: Now they made the big plays in the end. And
Speaker 1: and I think it helps, you know, point out how
Speaker 1: valuable Michael Bennett is. I know Cam Chancellor has gone
Speaker 1: to They've they've played without camp Chancellor before. It's not
Speaker 1: just that they're missing Bennett, but I think Bennett's their
Speaker 1: most valuable player, and it is probably one of the
Speaker 1: five or six most valuable defensive players in the entire league.
Speaker 1: And you've seen that show up. I did forget, though,
Speaker 1: as we were talking about all the insanity, we got
Speaker 1: about my favorite quote of the year. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was a rough night for Walt Anderson, but but old
Speaker 1: Wall I mean, I'm gonna dentist by the way, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna remember what what Walt said as he
Speaker 1: was like a parent trying to, you know, heard a
Speaker 1: bunch of class class kids going to school the half
Speaker 1: is not over THERESCD. I like great days, like going
Speaker 1: to school, and then points to the glass and they
Speaker 1: had to say it again. He had to say it
Speaker 1: again because no one listened the first time. It was
Speaker 1: annoying in a way because it was, um, such a
Speaker 1: great game, and this was the big takeaway. Immediate takeaway
Speaker 1: of everyone was what a mess the end of the
Speaker 1: first half was. But the big picture was what a
Speaker 1: fun game to watch. And I like what I like
Speaker 1: West putting that down bottom in the slow in the story,
Speaker 1: because so much more happened than just that. If you,
Speaker 1: if you add someone from let's say England, asked you
Speaker 1: why doesn't the NFL have full time referees? Because they're
Speaker 1: absolutely astounded by this fact. What would your answer be,
Speaker 1: just because they never have? It seems like when you're
Speaker 1: now like a ten billion dollar year business, eleven eleven,
Speaker 1: it's time to have full time referee. I couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1: Sydney full time. While we're at it. Now we're getting
Speaker 1: in trouble. Hashtag makes Sydney full time. All right, let's
Speaker 1: move on, guys, good talk and do some news. Leave
Speaker 1: Tom Brady alone, Leave him alone. He's a great guy.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a perfect place to start, because let's start
Speaker 1: at the throne to sleeves. Oh, oh no, not this one.
Speaker 1: I say we trust the Great. Yes, today is like
Speaker 1: some day we will know. By by the time you're
Speaker 1: listening to this, you will know most likely who the
Speaker 1: next president of the United States of America will be.
Speaker 1: How great for our planet? How great? And on Tuesday
Speaker 1: before the election, um or on Monday night, I should say,
Speaker 1: republic Republican presidential nominee Donald J. Trump read aloud a
Speaker 1: note he said was from Patriots head coach Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: during a late night rally in New Hampshire. Uh. Here
Speaker 1: is what the Donald had to say. Congratulations on a
Speaker 1: tremendous campaign. You have dealt with an unbelievable slanted and
Speaker 1: negative media and have come out beautifully. I have always
Speaker 1: had tremendous respect for you, but the toughness and perseverance
Speaker 1: you have displayed over the past year is remarkable. Best
Speaker 1: wuacis for great results tomorrow, Bill Belichick. The letter led
Speaker 1: to a lot of a lot of people. Oh, this
Speaker 1: is disbelief. There's no there's no way that Belichick is
Speaker 1: sending letters. He sent letters to Mark Sessler and that
Speaker 1: was cool and NFL dot com slash Belichick letters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: everything was cool. Then it was either even endearing for
Speaker 1: the old coach but sending him to Trump terrible. But
Speaker 1: Tom Current of CSN New England reports that the letters
Speaker 1: did indeed come from the Donald. Greg, this, this must
Speaker 1: be a great hit to you personally. Why is that
Speaker 1: Tom Brady also in the tank for Trump in a
Speaker 1: big spot, has not has not declared who he voted for.
Speaker 1: He voted, but he did not well declare his wife
Speaker 1: his wife stopped? Has his wife denied it on social media?
Speaker 1: What do you Trump's press secretary? What's going on here?
Speaker 1: That's computer thoughts. Greg has a patriots face. Love the art,
Speaker 1: not the artist. You know, I'm in. I'm in on Belichick.
Speaker 1: I'm not and not giving it up because of his
Speaker 1: political leanings. Who cares, I mean, they're I don't care.
Speaker 1: Think of all the great novelists that you read that
Speaker 1: are creeps or that treated their family poorly or who knows,
Speaker 1: or think of the former presidents that were racists. They're
Speaker 1: all sorts of like things. They're druving. This makes day
Speaker 1: that Greg's only defense is to go down this road.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I appreciate Bill Belichick because of what
Speaker 1: he does in the football realm. I don't care what
Speaker 1: he thinks about anything else. Like he's a bon Jovi fan.
Speaker 1: You don't hold that against exactly. That's almost as embarrassing.
Speaker 1: Do these guys have more time than we assumed the
Speaker 1: coaches coaches? I mean he's rattling off, you know, long
Speaker 1: winded letters to presidential candidates. I I thought that when
Speaker 1: that whole suck for luck thing happened, and there was
Speaker 1: a Dolphins coach around week twelve acknowledge he had never
Speaker 1: heard of the phrase or anything, that there was this
Speaker 1: narrative creaty that they're such in such a bunker mentality,
Speaker 1: they don't even read a newspaper. But Bill Belichick very
Speaker 1: plugged in on the media coverage of Trump, the so
Speaker 1: called media bias out there. I mean a lot of
Speaker 1: hot takes from bb Mark. How about the idea that
Speaker 1: for a period of I would say, four weeks or so,
Speaker 1: you were the most famous recipient of a Trump of
Speaker 1: a Belichick letter, and now after just a four week rain,
Speaker 1: you've been wiped away from Yeah, it's a quick quickly
Speaker 1: came to a quickly came to a close. And then
Speaker 1: I saw other people tweeting about the letters they got
Speaker 1: from Belichick to everyone everywhere. It's got you. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: I even, why don't even write this thing? What a
Speaker 1: waste of my time? What a waste of time? How many?
Speaker 1: How many tweet there's just all sorts of people. Oh,
Speaker 1: he wrote me too, He wrote me as well, it's
Speaker 1: like this. I didn't even know that. When when did
Speaker 1: that pop up? That? I don't? You know me badly
Speaker 1: for you have to feel slightly less special now listen.
Speaker 1: I actually I find it interesting that I I sat
Speaker 1: on that for twenty something years, and then had I
Speaker 1: sat on for twenty years and five more weeks would
Speaker 1: have been non news. So it really well, I don't
Speaker 1: want him. I'm not associated with within it with either
Speaker 1: of these people. Good luck to these candidates. Have a
Speaker 1: theory on why Belichick likes Trump. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: a little payback for Trump single handedly sabotaging the NFL's
Speaker 1: biggest competitor of all time in the nineties, the USFL
Speaker 1: with Trump sunk from the inside. That's an interesting theory.
Speaker 1: So Bell, that's the weirdest thing I've ever heard. West
Speaker 1: get pumped up about Belichick such an NFL loyalist. How
Speaker 1: could he run a country when he can't run a
Speaker 1: football league? Maybe more immediately the whole, like Tom Brady
Speaker 1: is a great guy. Save Tom Brady could have had Smith.
Speaker 1: I mean, I should be wanting to move on past
Speaker 1: this because it's an embarrassment, but it is. It is
Speaker 1: interesting that he wanted to even put this out there,
Speaker 1: that he well, he's in New Hampshire, he's in the
Speaker 1: heart of New England. No, no, no, I mean it's
Speaker 1: interesting that Belichick he writes that letter knowing, Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: he's gonna ask if I you know, knowing it might
Speaker 1: become public. Trump said he asked for permission. He confirmed
Speaker 1: the story. So now we're believing Trump. Well, he confirmed
Speaker 1: the story to Tom Current, and I'm always trusted. I
Speaker 1: don't think Belichick is probably one of the bigger I
Speaker 1: don't give an f what anyone thinks. Guys out there,
Speaker 1: let's move on to a different embarrassment, shall we. The
Speaker 1: New York Jets are dealing with more issues Mohammed Wilkerson
Speaker 1: and Sheldon richardson their two first round stars on their
Speaker 1: defensive line. Um, we're benched in the first quarter of
Speaker 1: Sunday's lost in Miami, of course, and then uh, we
Speaker 1: learned a little more context. Both players have been repeatedly
Speaker 1: late to meetings and this from NFL Networks Mike Garafolo.
Speaker 1: It's a gaol Garafolo, Mike G. According to Mike G,
Speaker 1: Wilkerson had missed the team's walk through before a Week
Speaker 1: seven game against the Aven's and as well as a
Speaker 1: planned gathering in the defensive meeting room in which the
Speaker 1: Jets players or coaches or someone within the company had
Speaker 1: purchased a birthday cake for Wilkerson to celebrate his twenty
Speaker 1: seventh birthday. So he missed both the walkthrough and his
Speaker 1: own birthday party. And uh, only the Jets, my friends,
Speaker 1: only the Jets, the circuses in town. I like that.
Speaker 1: You said that should be on the tombstone of the
Speaker 1: Jets lost season. He can't even show up for his
Speaker 1: own birthday cake. Yeah, this, Uh Graffalos quote Garfolos quote
Speaker 1: Mr G's quote. I'm told they even had a cake
Speaker 1: ready to go for him and he didn't show up. Uh.
Speaker 1: Very big time concerns on my uh and as a
Speaker 1: Jets fans about the character of both Richardson and Wilkerson
Speaker 1: because if you follow the team closely, you know obviously
Speaker 1: that Richardson has had his troubles uh with the law,
Speaker 1: but you also know that Wilkerson is one of those
Speaker 1: guys that you will hear more than any other player.
Speaker 1: Wilkerson left the locker room without making comments things like that,
Speaker 1: which some people put more stock into it than others.
Speaker 1: I I think it's an accountability issue, especially when you're
Speaker 1: one of the biggest stars on the team, and especially
Speaker 1: after you sign a mega contract that makes you one
Speaker 1: of the highest paid defensive players in the league. Can't
Speaker 1: be pulling that. It's just it's it's not so much
Speaker 1: a circus or a charade as it is downright depressing
Speaker 1: that your kind teammates got together bought you a cake.
Speaker 1: Probably someone had to decide what was written on that case, right, well,
Speaker 1: a lot of letters for someone to have to write
Speaker 1: out at the cake shop. Probably just went mob But
Speaker 1: you're right, it could have been full named. And you
Speaker 1: don't and you don't show up where this team is
Speaker 1: floating on multiple levels, and this is one of the
Speaker 1: more uh ghastly indications of that. By the way, not
Speaker 1: on the show planned today is our stick in the fork,
Speaker 1: stick a fork in them segment. We've got too much,
Speaker 1: it's a big show, too much so to get to.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna just stick a fork in the Jets
Speaker 1: just because we just because we uh didn't all meet.
Speaker 1: Let's fork them. This is right now. I mean, considering
Speaker 1: we forked them three weeks ago? Did we forked them?
Speaker 1: You're I like it though? Greg is just dead corps,
Speaker 1: green corpse, and Greg is sticking another fork in the
Speaker 1: fourth that should have been going into the cake you
Speaker 1: want to Dan. Dan has disgusted at me, just like
Speaker 1: you know plug in on our own podcast. That's all
Speaker 1: I was. I was Mark, and I didn't know it either.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we're wrong. Yeah, we were talking. We talked about
Speaker 1: this separate none of us. I thought I thought Greg
Speaker 1: might be going somewhere along the lines that if you're
Speaker 1: gonna kill Bill Belichick and Tom Brady for voting for
Speaker 1: a certain political candidate, well we know who the Jets
Speaker 1: owners voting for. Ah, interestingly interesting, you're attacking ownership. I
Speaker 1: did not attack. I simply pointed out a very obvious
Speaker 1: fact that is Mark Sessler NFL dot com cubicle not
Speaker 1: attacking finding out facts. See, I would think Dan, you
Speaker 1: would Yeah, you put together a lot of the ideas
Speaker 1: on this show. You would see this thing. I just
Speaker 1: did as and as an opportunity, you know, because sometimes
Speaker 1: we forked teams and they end up coming back to
Speaker 1: haunt us, they come back to life. Re forking should
Speaker 1: be something, Hey, a team we were right about, let's
Speaker 1: kill him dead double Yeah you might. You could also
Speaker 1: just kind of move on from this part of the show.
Speaker 1: You you got it wrong. We kind of made a
Speaker 1: little bit of a bit out of it. But and
Speaker 1: then we can actually just move to the next portion
Speaker 1: of the Jets are forked. I never thought it first
Speaker 1: time Dan's ever wanted to move on from Jets stock. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. Let it be stated at also that I
Speaker 1: never hied from any of the Jets misery either. It
Speaker 1: is part of our show, and I'm trying to you
Speaker 1: know who. I have some people on the show that
Speaker 1: probably think that one's wearing a brown sweater his girlfriend
Speaker 1: bought him. How I have never Look, we talked about
Speaker 1: the Jets entirely too much, but I've never said that
Speaker 1: you're not willing to face the music. Yeah, thank you us,
Speaker 1: and we talked about the Jets a lot, because you know,
Speaker 1: the host of the podcast, there's a Jets fan just
Speaker 1: like the Browns this part of the show. So everybody
Speaker 1: that comes at me and says you talk about the
Speaker 1: Jets or the Browns too much or whatever, go get
Speaker 1: your own podcast and maybe you can talk about your
Speaker 1: team a little bit more. I got your back on.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. UH. Falcons general manager Thomas de Meetrof
Speaker 1: has signed a three year extension UH with the Falcons
Speaker 1: that runs through the twenty nineteen season. It now mirrors
Speaker 1: the same deal that Dan Quinn got. He also signed
Speaker 1: through the twenty nine season. That is how you do
Speaker 1: business in the NFL. De meetrov has been with the
Speaker 1: Falcons for nine years. Mark Sesler two time NFL Executive
Speaker 1: the Year. And while I won't call it Howie Roseman
Speaker 1: come back, he didn't crawl through two football fields of
Speaker 1: smelling foulness and come out clean the other side. He
Speaker 1: did make a nice little run after he seemed like
Speaker 1: he was headed towards obscurity he did. It looks good
Speaker 1: for the Falcons in a similar way that the Eagles
Speaker 1: looked good for Although Housman was Howie Roseman was hidden
Speaker 1: in a shed somewhere in deep Philadelphia, then brought back
Speaker 1: that they are these are two patient owners that they
Speaker 1: with Thomas Dimitroff. You know, I linked to a story
Speaker 1: I think writing that piece where it was just less
Speaker 1: than two seasons ago, where his role was downsized to
Speaker 1: make more powerful um opportunities for Scott Pioli, the assistant GM,
Speaker 1: and that maybe Demitt Trof was really in hot water,
Speaker 1: which was deserved, I think after a lot of really
Speaker 1: wanting season in Atlanta. But it goes to show you
Speaker 1: that if you get along with the new coach, you know,
Speaker 1: he's hired multiple coaches, and then your quarterbacks starts to
Speaker 1: play at an m v P level and the offense
Speaker 1: starts to sing. People gett also like it's okay to
Speaker 1: be in hot water when you're on hard knocks going
Speaker 1: bike riding with Lance Armstrong, That's okay. He's he's a
Speaker 1: nice presence in the NFL. It's good to have Thomas
Speaker 1: det And and dan Quinn's got the power. That's one
Speaker 1: thing that happened when he got hired. He is the
Speaker 1: final say well message to NFL media and the NFL
Speaker 1: at large. You don't fire high profile Vegans. You know what,
Speaker 1: Credit to Arthur Blank for this, because they're about to
Speaker 1: embark on their second era of success under Thomas Dimitrov.
Speaker 1: They had a five year spam when they averaged about
Speaker 1: eleven victories a season from two thousand and eight to
Speaker 1: two tho twelve to sub five hundred years last year,
Speaker 1: five hundred. This year, they're an obvious playoff tender and
Speaker 1: they have a bright future. Two losing seasons and eight
Speaker 1: with and it's gonna be nine now. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: pretty good for a franchise. That's the Falcons the biggest
Speaker 1: surprise in the NFL this year. Wow, I feel like
Speaker 1: they are no buzz. We said in August, I did
Speaker 1: that's what's gonna be a really good offense? Yeah, West
Speaker 1: said exactly that. I don't know if we thought it
Speaker 1: was going to be despite a great offensive team that
Speaker 1: was going to be dominating that division. Right now, the
Speaker 1: way they are part of the surprises how bad the
Speaker 1: rest of that division is. To me, the Cowboys being
Speaker 1: the best team in the NFC to this point is
Speaker 1: a bigger surprise. Most of us didn't even have them
Speaker 1: in the playoffs when when we knew Romo saw some things.
Speaker 1: They were good, but no one was saying they're gonna
Speaker 1: be that good of a team. Cardinals and Panthers are
Speaker 1: just as much as a surprise. Absolutely, let's move on.
Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Rams are going nowhere fast with case
Speaker 1: Keenum as their quarterback. But that doesn't mean that Jeff
Speaker 1: Fisher is ready to turn away from the quarterback uh.
Speaker 1: He announced on Tuesday that the tea or he confirmed
Speaker 1: during Monday's press conference. I should say that Keenu will
Speaker 1: remain the starting quarterback, not Jared Goff, the first overall
Speaker 1: pick against the Jets in Week ten and h rap
Speaker 1: Sheet or fill Network inside A reported earlier Monday that
Speaker 1: the Rams have no plans to make a quarterback change
Speaker 1: as long as the postseason remains a possibility. West crank
Speaker 1: up the bit machine. I think what the biggest takeaway
Speaker 1: here is that the Rams believe they still believe Case
Speaker 1: Kingdoms their best quarterback, and they they think they're in
Speaker 1: the pennant race or in the playoff race. Rap Sheet
Speaker 1: said they're not gonna change until they follo out a contention.
Speaker 1: So I think you're gonna continue to see this for
Speaker 1: a while. Well, the bit Yeah, the bit machine is
Speaker 1: that everyone that follows the NFL views them as out
Speaker 1: of contention. So Machin, Yeah, so Jeff, come on, buddy,
Speaker 1: you know, wake up. You're not going anywhere with this
Speaker 1: guy getting the kid. But they're one loss behind. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can see why in their minds there of course,
Speaker 1: they got eight games to go get to sell their
Speaker 1: one lot there literally, well, one loss, but I guess
Speaker 1: four three and one would be you don't want your
Speaker 1: team giving up at this point. You have to sell
Speaker 1: it to a locker room. They refused to paint Golf
Speaker 1: as the white horse guy. Well he's clearly not. Nobody
Speaker 1: you saw him in preseason could believe he's a white right,
Speaker 1: and they I think this is what they're trying to do.
Speaker 1: They're trying to protect him from even anyone saying, oh,
Speaker 1: here's Jared Goff to save our season, you know, I think,
Speaker 1: but I get it. I get that. I think the
Speaker 1: folly of the Jeff Fisher rams era is always believing,
Speaker 1: you know, you're a few plays away, because they're in
Speaker 1: all these games that he said it, you know, where
Speaker 1: a couple of plays away from being tenant six last year.
Speaker 1: But that's the same every year when you when you
Speaker 1: play this type of football, that's what's gonna happen for
Speaker 1: just about every team. You could say that that's true too.
Speaker 1: The question I have, because I think you look at
Speaker 1: the Rams drafting record and then their ability to develop
Speaker 1: those high draft picks that they that they've made, is
Speaker 1: is there anyone inside the building if you if I
Speaker 1: don't have a problem with Golf not being ready, if
Speaker 1: that's exactly where they sit with him, but you look
Speaker 1: around the league and there are multiple rookie quarterbacks playing
Speaker 1: at a high level, is it a developmental issue? And
Speaker 1: if not, if he really is not ready, is there
Speaker 1: anyone inside the building saying we took the wrong guy? Well,
Speaker 1: because Carson Wentz was ready in Week one, you you
Speaker 1: would hope not at this point, and I suspect not
Speaker 1: at this point. I I think they have a bigger
Speaker 1: problem though that with these home games at the Colisseum
Speaker 1: for a couple of years, and they've scored essentially no
Speaker 1: touchdowns in two of those games. I know they had
Speaker 1: a garbage time one last week. And as this just
Speaker 1: continues on and they're gonna be in the coliseum for
Speaker 1: a couple of years, it's tricky. You also kind of
Speaker 1: don't want to put golf out there, and if he's bad,
Speaker 1: then that really depressed his interest going into next year.
Speaker 1: So they're in a and they're thinking about these things.
Speaker 1: Of course, they're thinking about these things in the future
Speaker 1: of their season ticket base and you know, building up
Speaker 1: some fans here, a lot of buzz. All right, that's
Speaker 1: what's happening in the news, all right, Mark, like one
Speaker 1: of the great podcasters, cron Kite, you're Peter Jennings, Dan Rather,
Speaker 1: Katie Kuric, Bob costas anyone. Connie Chung, Connie on the
Speaker 1: day where we could have our first female president, Yes, Mark,
Speaker 1: Connie Chung also a great broadcaster. Mark teased on Sunday
Speaker 1: that he had a big announcement to make regarding the
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen team of Around the NFL, or the
Speaker 1: team of the around the NFL in general. Mark, the
Speaker 1: stage is yours. Just gonna read something that I tapped
Speaker 1: out before coming up here about this very subject. All right,
Speaker 1: we're watching the Vikings die before our eyes. I will
Speaker 1: not abandon them, As Dido sang in her somewhat annoying
Speaker 1: two thousand and three single white flag quote, I will
Speaker 1: go down with this ship. Unquote. I sang that song
Speaker 1: as well. King, Well, we would play this for you,
Speaker 1: but with a cadre of see lawyers and shadowy league
Speaker 1: types monitoring our every move, we can't play even a
Speaker 1: hint of licensed music on this show so as to
Speaker 1: assure that Mr Flames high school economics class, our sponsor,
Speaker 1: doesn't get taken to the cleaners by some massive corporate vampire. Anyways,
Speaker 1: my point is that I will not dump the Vikings.
Speaker 1: But from another angle, life is supposed to be fun.
Speaker 1: On a day where either a dangerously evil elitist or
Speaker 1: a cipher in a pants suit will take over America,
Speaker 1: we need all the fun we can get. I am
Speaker 1: proposing a solution for the first time ever two teams
Speaker 1: of a t l O. The Raiders have proven that
Speaker 1: they deserve this. Why not add the Raiders to the
Speaker 1: ride With both teams, this is our show. We can
Speaker 1: do whatever we want, except play even a note of
Speaker 1: licensed music. Per the wishes of our massively money obsessed overlords.
Speaker 1: We can't do that, but we can add the Raiders
Speaker 1: to our lives while not abandoning the Vikings. Everyone wins.
Speaker 1: Take this offer or deal with the consequences. Well that
Speaker 1: that last line was a little well because I was
Speaker 1: also sobering Listen. I refused to simply just cast off
Speaker 1: the Vikings from the very beginning. I said, this is
Speaker 1: my team. I don't care what anyone else does. Uh
Speaker 1: When it comes to the Raiders, though we're living by
Speaker 1: this rigid rule that we can only have one team,
Speaker 1: we have clearly I advocated for the Vikings harder than anyone.
Speaker 1: I might have made a massive mistake. And if so,
Speaker 1: why what are what boundaries do we have to live in?
Speaker 1: Why can't we have fun? There are no rigid rules
Speaker 1: because we're beholding that's the key. And we've even got
Speaker 1: a sponsor and Mr F and that was part of
Speaker 1: the contract that we're beholden to no one. Um I
Speaker 1: don't hate it, Mark in a way, the Raiders already
Speaker 1: are my team of a t L, even if I'm
Speaker 1: on board at the Vikings only because I get four
Speaker 1: d tweets every day now, um so I'm linked to
Speaker 1: them for the rest of the season regardless. Uh So
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of whether you know you guys
Speaker 1: wanna I like the concept. I don't know. It doesn't
Speaker 1: feel that genuine though, because are you really that excited
Speaker 1: about the Raiders the West and I that excited about
Speaker 1: the Raiders? I mean, I don't. I'm not not excited.
Speaker 1: They're they're They're on my teams that I like to watch,
Speaker 1: but they wouldn't be in my top four or five.
Speaker 1: So right, you guys, So I feel like that, why
Speaker 1: why force the second team? Because are you really that
Speaker 1: excited about the Raiders? I think what I'm trying to
Speaker 1: create here is situation down the rabbit hole. No, the
Speaker 1: Raiders are a constant sticking point. And really the problem
Speaker 1: with US Raiders is the Vikings that they got the
Speaker 1: steak on them once we name them the team of
Speaker 1: at l um and they've lost every game they've played,
Speaker 1: and the Raiders have worn played since we named the Vikings. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm no football head, you guys know that. I'm just
Speaker 1: a regular Joe. I'm just a common man, come from
Speaker 1: a common town. Uh, and in the realm of scientists.
Speaker 1: And yes, I got this one right, Let's be honest.
Speaker 1: I got in back in August. You're saying this after
Speaker 1: two weeks, this could change completely in a couple I
Speaker 1: got in on the Raiders in August. It turned out
Speaker 1: even they were exciting but not very good in the beginning,
Speaker 1: and now they're legitimately good and seven and two. I
Speaker 1: got this one right. You guys want to come on board,
Speaker 1: Come on on board. Here's the thing. You voted for
Speaker 1: the Vikings. You voted for the Vikings. It's a chance
Speaker 1: for you to correct what you did. I think too,
Speaker 1: your ability to misremember key parts of this segment at
Speaker 1: your convenience is astonishing. The week before I jumped on board,
Speaker 1: you said, I'm all for the Vikings. I'll do it,
Speaker 1: I'll do it. So that was one of the key
Speaker 1: factors that enabled me to jump on board, because I
Speaker 1: knew you were fine with it, and now you're painting
Speaker 1: this as you were. Never in the Vikings. No, I was. No,
Speaker 1: I didn't little American history on the on the day
Speaker 1: of the election. Why did Gerald Ford pardon Richard Nixon?
Speaker 1: Anybody know the answer so the country could heal. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's why I went forward with the Vikings. That was
Speaker 1: absolutely I didn't want this to go on forever. So
Speaker 1: I said, all right, I'll go with the Vikings. And
Speaker 1: then the the s hit the fan, frankly, because then
Speaker 1: the Vikings lost every week and the Raiders won every week,
Speaker 1: and it caused issues, but I was ready to move
Speaker 1: on with these flash It's week nine, we got half
Speaker 1: of the season left. I think the Vikings could still
Speaker 1: be a playoff team, could still have a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: The point of team of a t L is to
Speaker 1: pick the team that we're all excited about. Anyways, the
Speaker 1: Raiders were never getting there, maybe the Viking. Maybe some
Speaker 1: people forced themselves to feel that way about the Vikings too,
Speaker 1: But I don't feel bad that the Raiders are doing well.
Speaker 1: We're not just predicting who's gonna win a Why the
Speaker 1: man once told me people flutter in the wind on everything.
Speaker 1: There are no men anymore. That is, those are wise words.
Speaker 1: You stick with the commitment you made. That's the Minnesota Vikings.
Speaker 1: Even if they lose games. Who cares not? And we're
Speaker 1: not abandoning the Vikings. That was my thing all along,
Speaker 1: was I And I specifically said what I wanted was
Speaker 1: to support the Vikings, which I still do, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear about it from anyone else, which
Speaker 1: I have endlessly well. So point being, here is the
Speaker 1: chance for your gerald Ford healing moment. Without leading too
Speaker 1: deeply into that political maneuver. But I have muted every
Speaker 1: single person who has sent me comments about the Vikings
Speaker 1: as team of at L, and I would continue to
Speaker 1: mute them if I don't answer you. That's why I
Speaker 1: care less at this point about the Twitter side of
Speaker 1: it at all. It was annoying to me on that
Speaker 1: Monday night game. That was the one time it annoyed me.
Speaker 1: I'll I'll tell you what I could care less about that,
Speaker 1: I stated A and I'm sticking with the Vikings. This
Speaker 1: is a chance or the four of us to do
Speaker 1: what we want and not care about anyone else. That's
Speaker 1: where I'm coming. I'm I'm probably the only guy not
Speaker 1: involved in this discussion because I already do have two teams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I like I like the Chargers to me, are
Speaker 1: kind of there's too many teams. I got the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I love the Chargers this year. I'm backing on the
Speaker 1: type right exactly. I kind of like the Saints. I
Speaker 1: like the Vikings too. I'm not giving up on them
Speaker 1: all right. I agree with both Greg and Mark here.
Speaker 1: I'm going down with the ship and I'm with Greg.
Speaker 1: Those words sound familiar because I could have sworn. That
Speaker 1: came from one of Mark's texts. There are no men anymore.
Speaker 1: Be a man. Stand by the Vikings, Tammy, why not? Well,
Speaker 1: we all voted for them, so then we need to
Speaker 1: do it. I gotta do it, So let's stick with
Speaker 1: the Vikes. All right. Absolutely nothing was resolved. We could
Speaker 1: erased that segment and no one would be the less. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm glad you got it off your off your us.
Speaker 1: That was Mark's official Um, it's not how I was
Speaker 1: opening the door. No, it was all well intentioned. It
Speaker 1: was it was doomed. It was a great thing. It
Speaker 1: was an olive branch. But that's all right. It was
Speaker 1: a very well written statement. Was an olive branch that
Speaker 1: just got flamed right there. It snapped over someone else's
Speaker 1: knee and handed back to you. That's fine with me,
Speaker 1: all right? Uh oh, baby, names, what are they? We've
Speaker 1: got a I got a few weeks. Shoot, I don't
Speaker 1: have you say from the end of the show. Alright, alright,
Speaker 1: let's move on to our mid season sandwich props and um, yeah,
Speaker 1: we did a preseason sandwich props. Let's not get into
Speaker 1: those now. Let's save those for after the season. Um, However, UH,
Speaker 1: what we're gonna do now because we love sandwich props,
Speaker 1: and if you're new to the show, UH, each of
Speaker 1: us are going to now make a prediction to in fact,
Speaker 1: and then the rest of the group has a chance
Speaker 1: to either agree with that prediction or challenge UH the
Speaker 1: predictor on their prediction, and if they get it wrong
Speaker 1: or whoever ends up on the wrong side of history,
Speaker 1: UH will owe that person other person a sandwich. And
Speaker 1: if you make a sandwich prop, you could owe up
Speaker 1: to three sandwiches if every all everyone else in the
Speaker 1: room goes against your prediction. That is an onion hanger
Speaker 1: in a big spot. Some onions walla Walla is a
Speaker 1: big onion. Giant sweet Spanish onions are good, and a
Speaker 1: red Zeppelin is a big red onion. So here we go.
Speaker 1: I want some oneyon hangers, fellas Mark, get us going, baby,
Speaker 1: Here we go. The Seahawks will not win a playoff games.
Speaker 1: Who we're going into the playoffs? I will take that
Speaker 1: they will not. So that means okay, so you don't
Speaker 1: I don't know, Well, do you think it means they
Speaker 1: won't win a playoff game? I'm definitely taking are you
Speaker 1: gonna have a home game, right I always going to
Speaker 1: pick them in an early round home game where they
Speaker 1: gonna win their division. A good chance on that right now.
Speaker 1: I mean they're up, They're up a game and a
Speaker 1: half or two games. I will take the tie tip
Speaker 1: Ty ruins everything if they get it. It It almost works
Speaker 1: to Mark's advantage if the Seahawks finish well, get a bye,
Speaker 1: and then you get a tougher first round, first playoff opponent.
Speaker 1: I've napped it all out. Yeah, No, I like that.
Speaker 1: I like where you're coming from on this, but I
Speaker 1: will take you on that. I think Seattle is battle
Speaker 1: tested some issues in their defense, as we talked about
Speaker 1: earlier offense coming together, Russell Wilson getting healthier. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they at least one playoff win. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: take it. If you had said they get a playoff
Speaker 1: by too well, I didn't need to go that far.
Speaker 1: Did we all take it? We all took it. We
Speaker 1: all took it nice one way to get us go
Speaker 1: and Mark in a big spot, UH said, are we
Speaker 1: tracking these or we also have go get my lunch
Speaker 1: dot org. Nick Fortier is great site that not only
Speaker 1: has this overall standings for both the season all time
Speaker 1: and our current uh standing prop bets, but also um
Speaker 1: our soundboard Wes Tony Romo starts at least one game
Speaker 1: before the end of the playoffs. I'm just gonna do
Speaker 1: the same exact one interesting. Do you mean a playoff
Speaker 1: game or it can just be a regular any game,
Speaker 1: regular season or playoffs before the Cowboys season is over?
Speaker 1: Why does it feel like I wouldn't need him at
Speaker 1: some point? I I honestly think if I was setting
Speaker 1: odds on that that there's only a uh there's about
Speaker 1: an eight chance of that happening, and I'm not taking that.
Speaker 1: I think Dak Prescott's gonna fall on his face. I
Speaker 1: I don't think something weird could happen. You know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's football. First of all, it's a contact sports, so
Speaker 1: you could get hurt. But more than that, I don't
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys would have patients if he has a
Speaker 1: couple of bad weeks and that things happen. But if
Speaker 1: you seal up the number one spot in weeks six,
Speaker 1: team Romo. I just I'm with Greg. I I see
Speaker 1: Romo playing this season. I don't have any questions. I
Speaker 1: just feel like the NFL season has the ups and downs,
Speaker 1: and I looked at their scheduled not not facing a
Speaker 1: lot of great defenses, so that that will that could
Speaker 1: help you out. But if he just had about two
Speaker 1: bad games, I feel like they give Romo did you,
Speaker 1: um say, start or appear in a game? Start? I
Speaker 1: feel like a peer would be pretty Yeah, there's a difference. Right.
Speaker 1: If he was healthier, he would have played in that
Speaker 1: Browns game. I think even if the Cowboys have the
Speaker 1: NFC East wrapped up in week seventeen, you don't think
Speaker 1: they would send Prescott out for a quarter. Probably would
Speaker 1: or a series or something. I think they'll start Tony
Speaker 1: Romo if if I I would throw it out there,
Speaker 1: and this is my prop, but I think he'll start
Speaker 1: their playoff games when they make the playoffs. If I
Speaker 1: had the guests between him and Dak, I would get Romo. Wow.
Speaker 1: I don't see a plane out that way, really, But
Speaker 1: I just see Romo getting a start. I don't see
Speaker 1: that you go sixteen games with Dak Prescott, then you
Speaker 1: start Romo in the playoffs. Well no, I mean I
Speaker 1: mean by then he'll be the starter, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'll I think that's gonna go all the way through
Speaker 1: unless there's an injury. But there could be an injury,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to get involved with that, so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stay out of this. I'm staying off this one.
Speaker 1: Now you're making me think I should change my second one.
Speaker 1: That Tony Romo starts the playoffs. Why do you keep
Speaker 1: by making props when it's not your turn for props?
Speaker 1: But I'm not like your third prop and you're not
Speaker 1: even up yet. Think it out loud. That's what we do,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll throw it out might kind of oniony.
Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable because I feel like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: lose them both. But what the hell? You only live one.
Speaker 1: You gotta get big onions. That's true. Uh, the I
Speaker 1: will talk about the NFC North and I will declare
Speaker 1: a team that I've enjoyed all season and coming off
Speaker 1: one of their best ones. You don't want to get
Speaker 1: too recency biasy, and here I'll take it. I'm where
Speaker 1: I'm at right now, the Detroit lines. When the NFC North,
Speaker 1: I will take that one. I will too, I'll take it.
Speaker 1: Don't like the Packers too inconsistent? Who knows what happens
Speaker 1: with them? Feels like sort of a crap division, so
Speaker 1: it's not impossible. But the Vikings, I feel like they're
Speaker 1: a nine or ten win team and the Lions have
Speaker 1: a little bit of mojo where the Vikings getting five
Speaker 1: more wins. I see, I thought about throwing out again.
Speaker 1: I'm I take my chances with the Vikings win. I
Speaker 1: don't want us rooting against the Vikings, so I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want any I think the Vikings are probably a ten
Speaker 1: win team, and I won't be rooting against them for
Speaker 1: the sake of this, But I'm saying I think that
Speaker 1: they can be in the same realm lines and Vikings
Speaker 1: ten eleven wins some good mojo around the lines right now.
Speaker 1: I'm not discounting the Packers either, which not I think
Speaker 1: they're a better team than the Lions, who could easily
Speaker 1: be O and nine right now. I think the Packers
Speaker 1: and Vikings easily and nine. They have been losing every
Speaker 1: single game with a minute left in the game. I mean, Dan,
Speaker 1: you do have the Packers scoring what is it, five
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty points this season and in a previous
Speaker 1: so much bad so they're going to catch fire according
Speaker 1: to your find up on that with that type of tone. Mark.
Speaker 1: It's very hard to predict these things. It's all in fun.
Speaker 1: Uh Yeah, they've scored a hundred points, so they're on
Speaker 1: pace for three nineties six. They need to pick it up.
Speaker 1: What an idiot I am. I was the only person
Speaker 1: that the packers were gonna be. I don't think it
Speaker 1: was a serious shot at you. It was just it
Speaker 1: looks bad now, but in August it didn't look so bad.
Speaker 1: It did not. All Right, you're up. All my sandwich
Speaker 1: props look bad, especially when they're about the NFC South.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna double down and go back to the
Speaker 1: dirty dirty Well that's what I call the dirty South.
Speaker 1: I'm just making it up as I go along. The
Speaker 1: fans are gonna love it, the dirty dirty Go ahead, buddy.
Speaker 1: Uh for John, either the Saints or the Panthers will
Speaker 1: make a victorious run to the playoffs after being given
Speaker 1: up on Well, none of us gave up on the Panthers.
Speaker 1: They were one in five the people that we all
Speaker 1: gave up on the Saints because we unanimously forked him
Speaker 1: after week three. Well, I'm taking the fork back out
Speaker 1: another segment. Yeah, says the guy who says the guy
Speaker 1: who didn't have any takers on yours. It's a little
Speaker 1: I'm surprised that it's like, but if you pick one
Speaker 1: or the other, maybe, but you're those are two teams
Speaker 1: that feel like they have well, they clearly do not
Speaker 1: have a fifty fifty shot. They have a combined record
Speaker 1: of seven and nine at this point, and it's a
Speaker 1: crowded field. But I see what you're saying. I think
Speaker 1: it's probably fifty fifty one of the two. If I
Speaker 1: offered you that sandwich bet, would you take it? Of course,
Speaker 1: not because I think this is going to happen. They're better,
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I don't think I'm gonna well,
Speaker 1: I would never throw out a sandwich prop that I
Speaker 1: didn't think was gonna happen. If they faced any of
Speaker 1: the teams ahead of them in the standings for the
Speaker 1: wild card right now, I would pick the Panthers or
Speaker 1: the Saints. All right, I gotta go back to the
Speaker 1: drawing board. Well, it's that's the one flaw in this game.
Speaker 1: Maybe we has a chance to redeem them level for
Speaker 1: Greg and the standings there potentially, because if you're not
Speaker 1: hanging onion, you basically save yourself three losses most likely.
Speaker 1: It's also like the no, that's not true at all,
Speaker 1: because it's just as likely, if not more, that we're
Speaker 1: all completely wrong and none of them are going to
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, just like when I threw out that
Speaker 1: the Broncos weren't going to make the playoffs and you're like, Nope,
Speaker 1: too smart for that. None of us took it. You
Speaker 1: know they're probably gonna make it. No, there's a good
Speaker 1: chance they don't. Now, all right, they're in. Do you
Speaker 1: want an onion hanger? Yes, I would like one. I
Speaker 1: need none of your hanging. I mean, the rest of
Speaker 1: this is going to be a disgrace after what I've
Speaker 1: seen this. There will be no super Bowl fifty one winner.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous. Do you not ridiculous? What do you mean?
Speaker 1: A lot of stuff is happening to this country. So
Speaker 1: are you saying the super Bowl won't even be played?
Speaker 1: Didn't say that it will not be a winner. What's happened?
Speaker 1: What's happening? I don't need to decipher what's happening, because well,
Speaker 1: you're just handing out sandwiches. You're out in the street
Speaker 1: corner and you said, hey, would you like a ham
Speaker 1: and cheese. Would you like a meatball? Because not saying that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: now you are, because there will be a super Bowl
Speaker 1: and someone will win. We'll find out. I'll take it.
Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'm not passing down a free passing
Speaker 1: up a free sand I don't like that. It's kind
Speaker 1: of cutting out the legs of the segment a little bit.
Speaker 1: You don't care if you lose, is what you're saying.
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying this. If this, if I
Speaker 1: see what I what I perceived to be the future,
Speaker 1: and I will be correct, you will have to deal
Speaker 1: with it. Alright. Well, I think we'll all take you up.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be hearing from Dan about this around nine
Speaker 1: pm tonight on text, guaranteed. But I gotta roll with it. Well,
Speaker 1: like I'm in the delivery room, like Mark, I didn't
Speaker 1: think you took that in the right direction. That's exactly
Speaker 1: what will happen. I want to know what the catch is,
Speaker 1: h What do you mean he's basically you know the
Speaker 1: world could end. He wouldn't get any sidal interruption. Yes,
Speaker 1: there's really no way to win that. I'm on the
Speaker 1: fence here. If you swayed me this is the lowest
Speaker 1: moment for the kissing cousins. I'll take it there will
Speaker 1: be a super Bowl winner, he says, yea, all right, West,
Speaker 1: you're up onions. I think it's brilliant. That was That
Speaker 1: was an onion hanger. You try to use onions. You'll
Speaker 1: like him the real sweet onions, because I can't Elope,
Speaker 1: I got your onions right here. Patriots don't lose another game. Mhmm.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady doesn't lose a game all season. Well that's different.
Speaker 1: And he wins Mark's super Bowl. How both of them
Speaker 1: they win through the super Bowl. They win through the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. I'll take you. So they go eighteen and one,
Speaker 1: but this time it ends in a positive way. Well,
Speaker 1: you've you've got You've caught me a man asked to
Speaker 1: live by a code. West and who are you quoting?
Speaker 1: Dalton from Omar? But but I try to do as well.
Speaker 1: I don't ever pick against the team I root for,
Speaker 1: so I cannot take you up on that, and I
Speaker 1: want them to do that. They will lose a game,
Speaker 1: they'll probably win the Super Bowl. They might lose this
Speaker 1: week to the Seahawks. Yeah they could. I think they'll
Speaker 1: have a stumble like there and I don't know if
Speaker 1: I buy into this, but there is a lot of
Speaker 1: talk about their defense is not even playing well and
Speaker 1: they're catching a lot of teams at the right time,
Speaker 1: including Seattle, who won't have Michael Bennett and don't look
Speaker 1: like the same team right now. I'm so sick of
Speaker 1: this crap. Uh, there will be at least one more
Speaker 1: loss in my opinion. See yes, I'll take you in in
Speaker 1: that you could lose two sandwiches if the Patriots win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Oh woe is me? That would be
Speaker 1: the biggest, you know, the biggest issue attached with that happening.
Speaker 1: All right, This is kind of a call back to
Speaker 1: something that came up a couple of minutes ago. Two
Speaker 1: teams will make the playoffs from the a f C West,
Speaker 1: but the Broncos will not be one of them. I
Speaker 1: am not feeling good about their quarterback situation. Once again,
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon looking like a subpar player. And I don't
Speaker 1: think Paxton Lynch is on anybody's white horse, A little
Speaker 1: white A lot of white horse talk this week, uh,
Speaker 1: and I think it could cost them a spot in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Where's the white horse talk? Paxton Lynch? Would
Speaker 1: come in on the white horse, white Horse, I will
Speaker 1: take you the white Bronco. I I almost went with
Speaker 1: it one where they're not going to win a playoff game,
Speaker 1: but Greg had already had that. Um, I will take
Speaker 1: you because I think this is one aspect of the
Speaker 1: Broncos that people keep overlooking is how well they've been
Speaker 1: coached under Gary Kubiak. I think they're going to get
Speaker 1: to the postseason from there. See you is Gary Kubeck
Speaker 1: like an amazing coach. I think he's done a great job.
Speaker 1: I think he has a really good job. I will
Speaker 1: take I will take you up on that. And wait,
Speaker 1: so two teams have to make it to that basically,
Speaker 1: and the Broncos aren't one of them. Great division. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm going a little more details than I should have,
Speaker 1: but I did that more for presentation. You want to
Speaker 1: let me off the hook and just making the Broncos, well,
Speaker 1: you can see why I wouldn't be clear on it.
Speaker 1: Teams is key. I literally was just asking because the
Speaker 1: Broncos not making the place you're putting them in third
Speaker 1: place in the division. Sure, all right, yeah, I don't care. Yeah,
Speaker 1: two teams will make it, which will be could be
Speaker 1: very hard for that not to happen. This one's tough. Interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it just for gets and higgles, like
Speaker 1: who would pat who would pass them? The Chargers could,
Speaker 1: in theory the Bengals or Steelers, I guess could. I
Speaker 1: like the Broncos. I gave the Broncos a better chance
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs than the Raiders even even after
Speaker 1: that game. Right now on your QB and he's twenty four,
Speaker 1: thanks for the plug two comes out on Wednesdays. I
Speaker 1: think he's is higher than their quarterbacks were last year.
Speaker 1: But there is their defense is going to Here's what
Speaker 1: I'd say. It's at this point in the season, Like,
Speaker 1: I can see where you came up with that, But
Speaker 1: Denver and their players know how to play well in
Speaker 1: November and December, so I'm not. I can't count them
Speaker 1: out yet. Taking you on it, taking you I like
Speaker 1: the Broncos. See that's you know, that's six or six
Speaker 1: on onion takers. Greg, you need a good one, You
Speaker 1: need a real good one. You don't try to peer
Speaker 1: pressure me into just losing some sandwiches. I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: out the weakest one you've ever seen and win this
Speaker 1: whole thing. It's an experience that too real, That was
Speaker 1: too real. I'm just kidding. How about the cowbum he
Speaker 1: had a problem, he overcame it. Now he's dipping right
Speaker 1: back into dark territories. Cowboys don't win the NFC East
Speaker 1: just because you guys are pressuring me into something far No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. If you don't want to do it, I
Speaker 1: want to do it. I was thinking, what, what's something
Speaker 1: that's a a low percentage that I could see happening.
Speaker 1: That's the Cowboys not winning this division. I like it.
Speaker 1: I'll take you. Thanks for the sandwich. I'll take it
Speaker 1: so that I mean, I do believe that they will
Speaker 1: play all sixteen games, which is more than Marcus guaranteed us. Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, that's not more because I have teams
Speaker 1: playing at least eighteen interesting, So there's no I don't
Speaker 1: even want to go down that road. What did you
Speaker 1: call it a societal disruption? Not in my official sentence.
Speaker 1: We don't need to go back to that. Well, it
Speaker 1: took me on it. We'll see what how it's it's
Speaker 1: interesting now, giggle now, it's interesting. Market you're giggles in
Speaker 1: as NFL employees should. We go to the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: We have to we have to send credentials in background checks.
Speaker 1: Are you so confident in this that you're you're not
Speaker 1: even gonna send uh your information for the credentials or
Speaker 1: any Are you gonna have family members that told you
Speaker 1: nobody would win? Mhmm, that's true. It's different. Maybe we
Speaker 1: show up for the week nice week in Houston to tie.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are two ahead in the lost column. The
Speaker 1: players sit out out of protesting police violence over the
Speaker 1: Giants and Redskins three ahead of the Eagles. Only eight
Speaker 1: games to play, Folks, for all these teams, you wanted
Speaker 1: an onion hanger. No, it's a good onion hanger. I'll
Speaker 1: take you on it. I'd be really surprised if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys lose more than five games. That's a walla walla.
Speaker 1: That might be a big onion. Giants sweet Spanish onions
Speaker 1: are good, and a Red Zeppelin is a big red onion.
Speaker 1: So you're talking Cowboys collapse because if they go four
Speaker 1: and four, they go uh, eleven and five, and that
Speaker 1: I think that would be good enough to beat any
Speaker 1: team in this tone. Yeah, Cowboys colap collapse combined with
Speaker 1: another team in the East absolutely blowing up down the street.
Speaker 1: We know if they lose two games, Romo's coming in
Speaker 1: on the white horse, white Horse talk. According to Greg,
Speaker 1: two games and Deck's gone. Yeah. I I felt more
Speaker 1: confident in Romo starting their playoff game, but I like
Speaker 1: this anyways. Good sandwich props, everybody, Mark, did you have
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Speaker 1: money's worth, all right. Thursday Night Preview, the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: are oh and nine and uh. They're looking for that
Speaker 1: first win, and they now travel to Baltimore to face
Speaker 1: the Ravens, who, on the strength of their surprise victorial
Speaker 1: surprise to some over, the Steelers are now tied for
Speaker 1: first place in the a f C North Um Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to get into this game. What
Speaker 1: do you think about this one? Well? Is this another
Speaker 1: trap game? I don't know. I mean they all are
Speaker 1: with the Browns. Everybody look out for the Browns are
Speaker 1: sleeping giant. What is this narrative? Dan's really been upset
Speaker 1: lately that he thinks the Browns get too much credit,
Speaker 1: too much less game when everybody was picking then it's
Speaker 1: not about it's that Jets were one of them, and
Speaker 1: maybe that's when it really got on my radar. But
Speaker 1: it's been happening both before that game, and it is
Speaker 1: hard to hard last week in Dallas with Dallas by
Speaker 1: the way, which I could not wrap my head around,
Speaker 1: and told the story that that's that's fair and it's
Speaker 1: hard of hearts. Though it's a little bit of worry
Speaker 1: that I think if you're choosing one set of players
Speaker 1: versus another long term, you might go Browns over Jets
Speaker 1: right now. Jet's gotta try a little rebuildrat Booty included, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that to me, that has nothing to do
Speaker 1: with it. But if I had to che the roster,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe the Browns, but the Browns everything
Speaker 1: always seems to go to hell anyway. So how do
Speaker 1: we know the Browns have a good roster right now?
Speaker 1: Look crazy? You're trying to get me to go crazy
Speaker 1: about the Browns. Eat nothing more to learn about Thursday
Speaker 1: night's game. No, this is a terrible matchup for them
Speaker 1: because Brandon Williams and Timmy journ again and zach Ore
Speaker 1: Connor's cousin has been playing outstanding. And if you can't
Speaker 1: run the ball when you're the Browns, and they haven't
Speaker 1: for the last month for the most part. Uh, they
Speaker 1: were third and eight, third and nine with Cody Kesler,
Speaker 1: and you saw how that worked last week. It's not
Speaker 1: gonna work. He was a little trigger shy last week. Well,
Speaker 1: con i er why because he's been battered in every game,
Speaker 1: which brings us to the second big issue for Cleveland,
Speaker 1: which is their offensive line. It certainly doesn't help when
Speaker 1: the first round draft bus center gets kicked out of
Speaker 1: the game in the first quarter. By the way, when
Speaker 1: he has played, he's not looked like a first rounder.
Speaker 1: They Jay let Alex mac and their fill in has
Speaker 1: done not done the job, and we haven't even gotten
Speaker 1: to their defense. Well, this will be an interesting matchup
Speaker 1: a Ravens team. They had no interest in running the
Speaker 1: ball for eight weeks and then tried to run the
Speaker 1: ball in Pittsburgh and couldn't do it. Can they be
Speaker 1: Can they finally get a running attack just because they're
Speaker 1: playing the Browns? This is that this is a big
Speaker 1: weakness on weakness. I've been amazed how bad the Ravens
Speaker 1: offense has been. It's gotten worse during the season. It
Speaker 1: was better in September, and it's gotten worse and worse.
Speaker 1: You would think everyone gets healthy against this Cleveland team.
Speaker 1: They have some players going for him. Steve Smith kind
Speaker 1: of looked like his old self. Mike Wallas is playing
Speaker 1: pretty well. Their offensive line isn't bad. Terrence West we
Speaker 1: like it's like they should be better than they are.
Speaker 1: Dennis pit Us scoring two touchdowns here. I mean, Dan,
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. I think early in the
Speaker 1: season Cleveland played teams tight. That was not an illusion,
Speaker 1: and that was at a time where everyone was like
Speaker 1: Cleveland's a disaster and people were at who were watching
Speaker 1: the Browns games are saying, actually, they're hanging in these games,
Speaker 1: and they very nearly beat the Ravens the first time out.
Speaker 1: I don't see that over the last three or four
Speaker 1: weeks with Cleveland. Her defense is an absolute disaster right now.
Speaker 1: We tend to focus on offense, and their offense overall
Speaker 1: has been a little better than the Ravens offense this year,
Speaker 1: but the defense is just so bad that it kills
Speaker 1: and the Raves. The Ravens defense in Baltimore has been
Speaker 1: as good as any home defense in the league this year.
Speaker 1: They just shut down the Steelers for three quarters. And
Speaker 1: I think, if you're the Browns, all those draft picks
Speaker 1: they got, they had a few of them have to
Speaker 1: go to safety because they have the worst safety play
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Um does anybody pick the Browns of
Speaker 1: this game? No? No, at your own risk, are you? No?
Speaker 1: I'm not. And I want to make it clear because
Speaker 1: the both the Browns and the Jets and the Paths
Speaker 1: get tied to the people in the podcast studio who
Speaker 1: route for those teams. I want the Browns to get better.
Speaker 1: I want them to be a playoff team again. I
Speaker 1: want uh Mark to be happy in the Browns fans
Speaker 1: to be happy, but you know, let's start winning some
Speaker 1: games before we start giving it a long way away.
Speaker 1: And I think even people within the building said this
Speaker 1: would be the hardest year. And I don't know how
Speaker 1: you could script a tougher start to the season. If
Speaker 1: we're still in a start territory. What's their record this
Speaker 1: season at the end of the year, I'd go one
Speaker 1: and fifteen. Yeah, and that gives you the number one
Speaker 1: pick maybe, and it keeps you away from infamy. That's
Speaker 1: almost like, in a weird way, best case scenario, although
Speaker 1: they don't play right, they do not they played that
Speaker 1: would they played last year? That would be great. Well.
Speaker 1: I always thought I like checks thing where didn't didn't
Speaker 1: he have the theory that the two teams the worst
Speaker 1: team should have a first round pick playoff game, the
Speaker 1: toilet Bowl. I think he calls it. The winner of
Speaker 1: that game gets the number one pick. Wow, it's better
Speaker 1: than when the year the Buccaneers tanked on purpose and
Speaker 1: nobody cared that they did that. About the Cults, I
Speaker 1: don't think the colt I think the Colts were genuinely
Speaker 1: that they they heard his paint painter was involved. They
Speaker 1: won some games at the end of that year. They
Speaker 1: won a game at the end of the year and
Speaker 1: almost blew it. Um. All right, there you go, primetime game.
Speaker 1: Baby names. Let's hear him. Who's holding down the fort
Speaker 1: in the chair, the old big chair on Thursday, I believe, well,
Speaker 1: we will have Connie Fox, highly capable, great job, does
Speaker 1: a great job every time she's asked to, just like
Speaker 1: Connie Chung and perhaps Hillary Rodham clip and evolutionary Connie Chung. Alright,
Speaker 1: baby names, I'll throw one out. How about this. I
Speaker 1: don't tell me that there's not going to be a
Speaker 1: baby or anything weird like that after the Super Bowl prediction. No,
Speaker 1: not at all. You're gonna have a wonderful, wonderful baby
Speaker 1: and you have a in a fantastic son named Jack
Speaker 1: who we've all met and we and we loved him.
Speaker 1: So how about instead of all this riga moarrale trying
Speaker 1: to come up with a second name, you go Jack
Speaker 1: two point oh automatic Update with improved applications and usability Hansas.
Speaker 1: It's a mouthful, it's a mouthful. And also, how does
Speaker 1: Jack one point oh feel about that? Because isn't in
Speaker 1: technology parlance when at the two point oh be superior
Speaker 1: to the original model. I think any older brother or
Speaker 1: sister has to deal with the fact that humans are
Speaker 1: always evolving. So the younger brother or sister, despite all
Speaker 1: the things they lose in life out you know, the
Speaker 1: younger version is always going to be a little bit
Speaker 1: got a little bit of an edge on any older sibling.
Speaker 1: And what about for short are they just Jack one
Speaker 1: and Jack two? Just one? I don't to control you,
Speaker 1: that's up to you. And I don't like one and two.
Speaker 1: That's great, all right, I'll run that by Emily. I'll
Speaker 1: promise you that West. This is a strong Nordic name,
Speaker 1: don't I mean, I think it flows well with your
Speaker 1: last name. But you might not like it because it
Speaker 1: went out of style around the eighteen eighties. But Roscoe Handsco.
Speaker 1: You've got some you know, Roscoe Parish, the former Bill's
Speaker 1: punt returner. You know Roscoe Tanner, Roscoe Chicken and Waffle.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. There's a landmark place in l
Speaker 1: A Roscoe's Chicken and wall. You could take him to
Speaker 1: Roscoe's every birthday. Edwin R. Murrow's middle name is Edwin
Speaker 1: Roscoe Murrow, Roscoe Hansas. Okay, I think that flows well,
Speaker 1: bring it back. I think you can bring it back.
Speaker 1: You want to save that for yourself, You're bringing it
Speaker 1: back kind of guy. I don't think Roscoe Westling goes
Speaker 1: as well as Roscoe Hands is like the Josco hands.
Speaker 1: The flows into the h I think it does well
Speaker 1: on one potential blockade Emily. Again, I every all of these.
Speaker 1: I appreciate and will run by my wife. That's all
Speaker 1: I can say. I'm not feeling so confident about her. Well,
Speaker 1: it certainly has. About Mats and Marks Dystopian Future. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm actually going with a name that you guys already approved,
Speaker 1: That's true. I want to hear more of the there
Speaker 1: there sounds better? All right? Does anybody else? Mark has
Speaker 1: a few I've got that's my only one. Here's one, alright,
Speaker 1: last one? Friends, question Mark overrated sitcom that probably went out,
Speaker 1: went on three seasons too long, or maybe not question Mark.
Speaker 1: Let's discuss Hansas. Um, Okay, that's a weird one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to Yeah, that's a weird one.
Speaker 1: The others there plus, I come down there. I believe
Speaker 1: Friends to be one of the best sitcoms of the night.
Speaker 1: I know it's important. So I don't want to even
Speaker 1: open up that debate to people who will be critical
Speaker 1: of a sitcom that I quite enjoyed. I thought it
Speaker 1: would put you into place where you'd sort of be
Speaker 1: a champion of that debate from now until the end,
Speaker 1: and your son would carry on and carry it on
Speaker 1: after you. One of the few people I know that
Speaker 1: vehemently defends friends. You know, but it go that far.
Speaker 1: But well, I would play favorites at the old hands manner.
Speaker 1: I would just like Jack better than the Friends kid.
Speaker 1: You know what I just I just thought about Will
Speaker 1: and Grace Hansas. It's an option. What about a name
Speaker 1: that's bubbled up in this firm a few times, but
Speaker 1: I don't really see out there much La Gary. That
Speaker 1: is Greg, So you don't doubt yourself. It could be
Speaker 1: a winner. My brother Nick would love that La Gary Hansas.
Speaker 1: I like it, which could even shorten for the just
Speaker 1: two log and it would have been like, for instance,
Speaker 1: Jack isn't on his birth certificated Jack. It's not John
Speaker 1: or anything like that, or Jonathan. Uh, the show is
Speaker 1: still going right. This wouldn't be La Garrett. This would
Speaker 1: be La Garrett. So you started La Gary. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what that's his name. Yeah, do you have anything else? More?
Speaker 1: Time to wake up Sydney. I'll I'll send mine privately
Speaker 1: to Dan later at the rest. Um. Okay, thank you guys.
Speaker 1: I will promise. I promise you. They will all be
Speaker 1: run by. Honestly, I feel like Roscoe has got a
Speaker 1: pretty good chance if they're seeing the other one. I
Speaker 1: kept my best stuff, you know, under wraps. We'll be
Speaker 1: back on Thursday where we will recap Oh yeah, that
Speaker 1: concludes the Brown Ravens preview on Thursday night, late Thursday,
Speaker 1: where the scientists will recap that Brown's Ravens games and
Speaker 1: then possibly the Connie Chung of NFL Media Colleen Wolf
Speaker 1: will be in my place in my chair, uh, leading
Speaker 1: the show previewing all the games to come in week ten.
Speaker 1: Here we go, so hold down the fort. We wish
Speaker 1: you lucked in. Yeah, Emily, Connie Chung, Connie Fox. It
Speaker 1: actually all times to go there we can there go
Speaker 1: all right, thanks guys. Stan Hands signing off for the
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Boston I sid behind the
Speaker 1: glass Thursday. What is this Trump situation? By the way,
Speaker 1: what do you mean he's running? He's running for president.
Speaker 1: Um oh, the belitick thing you got. Everybody got their
Speaker 1: bits out. He possibly