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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hanzas and I am joined by
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What is up? Boys? Hey dann WHOA. Welcome
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Speaker 1: Netherlands stop a Sunday of football. Let me a little
Speaker 1: fun fact, guys, and I didn't even need the NFL
Speaker 1: Media Starts Group for this. If the playoffs start today,
Speaker 1: six of the twelve playoff spots come from two divisions
Speaker 1: name of mark NFC East and NFC in a f
Speaker 1: C West. That how about that? It would be unfair.
Speaker 1: I feel like if the season started today, you know
Speaker 1: teams a different amount of games. That seems, you know, pertinent.
Speaker 1: We haven't even gotten to Monday Night football this week.
Speaker 1: It would be like season, the whole season, the whole premise,
Speaker 1: little faulty. A lot of people seem that that's like
Speaker 1: kind of a well worn and this isn't a shot
Speaker 1: against you, Grant, but a well worn bit on Twitter
Speaker 1: and the like is whenever someone makes the reference if
Speaker 1: the season ended today. But it's stupid to do in
Speaker 1: the middle of the actual day, in the actual week.
Speaker 1: That's why this calmed down over. That will be the
Speaker 1: situation six of twelve. By the way, it's it speaks
Speaker 1: to the fact that what we would do is eliminate
Speaker 1: what other whatever division you're in a heap of trash
Speaker 1: NFL teams and there are that's a that's a pile
Speaker 1: and the Cowboy, and I root for two of them.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys would be considered a heavy super Bowl favorite
Speaker 1: right now? Is that okay to talk about? No, I
Speaker 1: don't think that's true either. Even is that not true?
Speaker 1: The old contra in because the Seattle Seahawks are in
Speaker 1: the NFC talking about the team off, have you talking
Speaker 1: about a mid season Greg? Are you watching the Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're great. I'm saying I would have favorite them over
Speaker 1: a heavy NFE favorite, no matter what happens the rest
Speaker 1: of the way against Seattle and that wretched, that wretched
Speaker 1: FS one show undisputed. One of the ads that's running
Speaker 1: over and over again during Sunday Football is Skip Bayless
Speaker 1: saying something like you know or or Shanton shopping like
Speaker 1: there's no way that the Cowboys are the favorite to
Speaker 1: go to the super Bowl, and then skips like over
Speaker 1: my dead body, and that's like their hook. So we're
Speaker 1: not that far off what we're doing right now. We
Speaker 1: gotta be careful just because the Cowboys are the hot team.
Speaker 1: We don't want to pander to the large audias season.
Speaker 1: I'm with you. That commercial seemed massively out of, out
Speaker 1: of out of place as they were romping over Cleveland
Speaker 1: like playing they were playing a Pop Warner team. All right,
Speaker 1: a lot of games to get to, well, not too
Speaker 1: many games, this is for the This is along with
Speaker 1: Week eight, the most teams that will be on buy. Uh.
Speaker 1: Six teams did not play this week, but still a
Speaker 1: lot of games to get to, and uh, I say,
Speaker 1: let's get to it. Let's have some fun boys. Let's
Speaker 1: do it and let's start. Oh you know, I'd like
Speaker 1: to start here. West Inner Conference match up at lambeau Field.
Speaker 1: Luck looking to throw drop back to past middle of
Speaker 1: the field. T Y Hilton's wide open up for up
Speaker 1: Green Bay and he's taken down at the twenty yard line.
Speaker 1: It's a game of twenty seven with two oh nine
Speaker 1: to play here in the fourth quarter. The clinching reception
Speaker 1: there by t Y Hilton that was Tom McCarthy of
Speaker 1: Westwood won Sports. The Colts started their day with a
Speaker 1: ninety nine yard Jordan Todd to kick off re turn
Speaker 1: sealed it with that big fourth quarter hook up from
Speaker 1: Edrew Luck to t Y Hilton. When it ended, the
Speaker 1: Colts had a thirty win and Chris Westling the Packers.
Speaker 1: Once again, we're facing questions about who and what the
Speaker 1: hell they are they were that we found out that
Speaker 1: the Colts outplayed the Packers in all three phases and
Speaker 1: looked like the better team today. The Packers last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks went with that quick short passing attack, getting
Speaker 1: all their wide receivers involved to replace the running game,
Speaker 1: and they didn't do that today. The Colts play man
Speaker 1: coverage and the Packers went with their Mike McCarthy trademark
Speaker 1: isolation routes. None of the receivers were getting open against
Speaker 1: the Colts quartet of cornerbacks scored it scored twenty six
Speaker 1: points and when push came to shove, it wasn't garbage
Speaker 1: time either. They had a chance to get back in
Speaker 1: this game. They went right down the field a couple
Speaker 1: of times in the fourth quarter. I love you know
Speaker 1: the the play that that we listened to, the play
Speaker 1: call that the Colts did not run the ball heavily
Speaker 1: in that situation that they went for that they gave
Speaker 1: the ball to their best player and Drew Luck and
Speaker 1: let him win the game. I believe that was the
Speaker 1: third and two. But the play that I was really
Speaker 1: pressed by was the previous set of downs where Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck facing a third and long, a blitzer coming off
Speaker 1: the edge straight for him. He hangs in there a
Speaker 1: little and this is where you have to have that
Speaker 1: special sense in the pocket, a little sidestep to avoid
Speaker 1: the pass rush and then drops a perfect time to
Speaker 1: Jack Doyle mark. And that was that. The Packers looked
Speaker 1: like they were coming back. They had scored twice rather
Speaker 1: easily once they did that, the Packers on the ropes
Speaker 1: and then they got finished. We're coming off the two
Speaker 1: best games we've seen Aaron Rodgers play and probably two seasons.
Speaker 1: And I know on Thursday when we talked about this game,
Speaker 1: critical of the Cults for being an incomplete team that
Speaker 1: is based around one player in too many ways. Looking
Speaker 1: at your right up, they outplayed the Green Bay in
Speaker 1: all three phases. But do you you know these teams
Speaker 1: were combined? What eight and nine? Right now? Do you
Speaker 1: buy Indianapolis is a week to week proposition? After this,
Speaker 1: I buy them as a team that can absolutely win
Speaker 1: the a f C South. They have the best player
Speaker 1: in the division and we saw that with the game
Speaker 1: on the line today. Andrew Luck was a hoss. Your
Speaker 1: latest reminder any apples out there that come after Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck because the Colts aren't great. The guy is such
Speaker 1: a stud as somebody again watched suffered through bad quarterback
Speaker 1: play for my favorite team today seeing some of the
Speaker 1: plays he makes, this guy is a monster if they
Speaker 1: ever put the right and overcame two early mistakes to Yes,
Speaker 1: the first multi interception first quarter of his career, but
Speaker 1: he bounced right back from that and led some some
Speaker 1: really impressive scoring drives and you managed, Greg that the
Speaker 1: Packers scored twenty six points. But after fifty minutes of
Speaker 1: this game, they were set up to have their worst
Speaker 1: home loss in almost ten years. And in this even
Speaker 1: though they only lose by five, it has to be
Speaker 1: up there. I mean, how many worse losses do they
Speaker 1: have in Lambeau just looking at the opponent? Because I
Speaker 1: was wrong. I thought we were getting to the point
Speaker 1: with this Colts team that they have no chance to
Speaker 1: win against the quality team on the road. Maybe the
Speaker 1: Packers are inequality. Put in there four and four the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears loss on Thanksgiving Night on Brett Fave Night
Speaker 1: last year, that was up there of season losses. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they're four and four the Packers, and this is their
Speaker 1: worst record of the halfway points. It's two thousand nine
Speaker 1: and just when you think you could trust them, they
Speaker 1: deliver the you know, stink bomb like this, So they're
Speaker 1: back where they started. I totally agree. I mean I
Speaker 1: had had Indianapolis rolled into Green Bay and right now
Speaker 1: we were talking about them losing one to ten, I
Speaker 1: would not have been that surprised. This has to be
Speaker 1: one of the most surprising results of the day. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on, gentlemen, to another NFC North team. Status
Speaker 1: protection will work out of the gun clay clock at three.
Speaker 1: Matthews got it, fact sets looks throws, He's got golden table.
Speaker 1: Next the catch. It's not the fifteen, it's not the time,
Speaker 1: and he's baking away, he said to the end zone.
Speaker 1: Packed the bags, start the playing. This game is over
Speaker 1: by the Lions, Love Danny Miller w J are facing
Speaker 1: near certain defeat. In the final minute. The Lion's got
Speaker 1: a fifty eight yard field goal from Matt Prader at
Speaker 1: the final playoff regulation before Yes, Golden Tate what you
Speaker 1: just started flipped into the end zone on a twenty
Speaker 1: yard touchdown catch and run in overtime, the first possession
Speaker 1: and overtime by either team, lifting the Lions to a
Speaker 1: six win over the Vikings in Minnesota, a terrible loss.
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. The lines committed larceny. On Sunday, still in
Speaker 1: this game, and the team of a t L suddenly
Speaker 1: camp by win. Well, we need to on Tuesday. We're
Speaker 1: gonna need to have a chat about the team of
Speaker 1: a t L because this is um that's called the
Speaker 1: teas in the industry. I'll you'll find out Tuesday. That's
Speaker 1: when you find out what it means. Look in the cameras.
Speaker 1: That gives another element of it, their element, a little tease.
Speaker 1: They're helping the audio listeners at home. This is this
Speaker 1: is a fantastic win for Detroit Um. This is what
Speaker 1: they've been all year. They come down to this last possession,
Speaker 1: and they were largely shut out in the second half
Speaker 1: of this game by what is all a good Minnesota
Speaker 1: defense until Matthew Stafford pulled off the late game heroics,
Speaker 1: making them a much more interesting and fun watch fun
Speaker 1: watchable team than than Minnesota is right now. And the
Speaker 1: Vikings have to be kicking themselves right now. This game
Speaker 1: would not have gone into overtime had Blair Walsh not
Speaker 1: a missed a field field goal be missed a critical
Speaker 1: extra point. You gotta be getting me on that. And
Speaker 1: there was a possession where Chad Greenway picks off Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford at what I believe was the eighteen yard line
Speaker 1: of the Lions and the drive ends with the Vikings
Speaker 1: punting the ball. That is something that has not happened
Speaker 1: to a team. Evan Patrick pointed this out. They started
Speaker 1: at the Vikings at the Detroit Lions eighteen yard lion
Speaker 1: farther back punting the ball. It's something that's not happened
Speaker 1: since October two thousand eleven in the quarterback in that
Speaker 1: game who had the same issue, Sam Bradford. So look,
Speaker 1: this Vikings team is crumbling inside of itself based off
Speaker 1: of this offense. The defense could not have done more
Speaker 1: to put them into a position to win once again.
Speaker 1: And you can. But the defense choked. I mean that
Speaker 1: it's twenty three seconds. The ball they have twenty three seconds.
Speaker 1: You're a defensive team at for everything that went into
Speaker 1: that game before that, right, Blair wash misses. The offense struggles,
Speaker 1: they put up a this is to go ahead with
Speaker 1: twenty three seconds left. At that point, you're a defense
Speaker 1: at that point, at that point, they choked. But how
Speaker 1: often are you going to ask how often are you
Speaker 1: gonna ask the defense to save you? But this is
Speaker 1: what that's something you do. But I hear you, I
Speaker 1: hear you. Come on, I mean Minnesota did everything they
Speaker 1: could up leave. Stafford comes on the field twenty three
Speaker 1: seconds ago at the twenty three seconds left, no time out,
Speaker 1: and we got to give Matt pray to a ton
Speaker 1: of credit, even though he wore that earring Super Bowl
Speaker 1: Media Day and blew me off, which was weird because, Bro,
Speaker 1: you're a kicker, but at the same time you bang
Speaker 1: home a fifty eight yard or which would have been
Speaker 1: good for sixty five. By the way, you gotta give
Speaker 1: the guy credit, but you cannot let that happen. He
Speaker 1: was Stafford was able to uh spiked the ball with
Speaker 1: two seconds to play. Cannot happen. Well, you give up
Speaker 1: a touchdown and overtime too, right off the bat. So
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's a complete team loss. It is
Speaker 1: a complete team loss. In the defense has been an
Speaker 1: issue for a couple of weeks. Let's not act like
Speaker 1: they're a top three defense right now. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: when your offense fails to deliver drive after drive after drive,
Speaker 1: the result will also be a defensive collapse. We see
Speaker 1: this with other teams that are that one sided. When
Speaker 1: you're personnel dictates and your organ organizational philosophy is playing
Speaker 1: close games, you can't have a kicker like this on
Speaker 1: your roster. Got to make a move and and Walas
Speaker 1: who handled it well when he missed that kick last January.
Speaker 1: Some of the reporters in Minnesota after this game said
Speaker 1: he was now melting in the gaze of the cameras. Basically,
Speaker 1: he got he got upset with the reporters. It's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: He said, you asked the same question every week. Did
Speaker 1: you make it? Why did you know? No? Why did
Speaker 1: it not go in? If I had the answer, I
Speaker 1: would tell And then he muttered some other words that
Speaker 1: weren't fit. Yes, you made a good point downstairs earlier
Speaker 1: today that once upon a time, the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 1: had a similar issue with a kicker they quite liked,
Speaker 1: and Mason Crosby, who could not find any consistency, and
Speaker 1: they hung with him, and now he's returned to being
Speaker 1: one of the better kickers in the league. That's the
Speaker 1: only way in Minnesota still has this guy employed because
Speaker 1: they think that highly of him. Have a similar situation
Speaker 1: with Roberto Aguayo. The Buccaneers are not a playoff team.
Speaker 1: The Vikings are, and they play close games. The Packers
Speaker 1: used to blow everyone out and could afford for Mason Cross.
Speaker 1: Are they a playoff team that's there in first place?
Speaker 1: I don't know that a good question. It feels like
Speaker 1: a lingering scenario that they're in first place. They are,
Speaker 1: I would say, right now, they look like the third
Speaker 1: best team in the NFC North, right. I Mean the
Speaker 1: thing I think that kills them in this one is
Speaker 1: they made the offensive clutch drive. They they made a
Speaker 1: third team play, eight yard touchdown drive to win the game,
Speaker 1: and so you felt like, okay, now, it's kind of
Speaker 1: this if if if they had an incomplete pass instead
Speaker 1: of that completion, we'd be talking about what great mojo
Speaker 1: and everything they have. But to blow it after then,
Speaker 1: also at home as well, the last bastion for them
Speaker 1: almost was they had this new home field advantage that
Speaker 1: seemed to carry them, and then a way that you know,
Speaker 1: five and oh, what's up? Well and nothing? Go ahead? Oh?
Speaker 1: Five and oh. Maybe they weren't quite a five and
Speaker 1: oh team. They caught some breaks and weren't scoring a
Speaker 1: ton of points, playing great defense five and three. Maybe
Speaker 1: that's kind of who they were. Anyway, there a nine
Speaker 1: or ten win team, we'll see. I gotta start. I
Speaker 1: gotta win a football game. Though I do want to
Speaker 1: mention that we should give Gold and Tate some credit
Speaker 1: on that last play to win a game in overtime
Speaker 1: with a somersault where you land on your opponent is
Speaker 1: the biggest like stuff in someone's face that you can
Speaker 1: possibly do. I mean, it would annoy me if you're
Speaker 1: and you and you broke tackles from Xavier rohads And
Speaker 1: and Harrison Smith. And that is a ridiculous When on
Speaker 1: the real World Road Route Challenge where seats he picked
Speaker 1: up Johnny Bananas and on his back carried him to
Speaker 1: the out of bound sector and then dropped him off.
Speaker 1: Anybody behind the glass, No, what I'm talking about is
Speaker 1: anybody following that is the e that is the exact
Speaker 1: parallel right up right by the way, say nay, hey, uh,
Speaker 1: one thing if we can take note, can we note
Speaker 1: that Dan Miller call at the end of the season.
Speaker 1: I want to do like a top ten calls of
Speaker 1: the year. Danny boy right now makes the cut. He's
Speaker 1: in there with Jesse. Uh. Let's move on and take
Speaker 1: a look at a big a f C North matchup
Speaker 1: and now joinin Barry to punt David Hester nestled at
Speaker 1: my staff right for to kick his blocked for Ravens
Speaker 1: block and it's loose and wabbling at the fourteen straight
Speaker 1: back for a score a block put touchs down Jerry
Speaker 1: Sandusky w B A L. Ben Roethlisberger returned to the
Speaker 1: Steelers line up on Sunday, but it did not have
Speaker 1: the intended effec act for a team that couldn't do
Speaker 1: anything right, including that block punt first score. You just
Speaker 1: heard the fourteen the loss to the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday. Uh,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. That's now three certified stinkers I count for
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh this season. This is a cause of major concern
Speaker 1: right absolutely, because it's not because of Roethlisberger's injury. They
Speaker 1: lost thirty four to three. When Roethlisberger was healthy, they
Speaker 1: were getting out played by Miami. When Roethlisberger was healthy,
Speaker 1: he looked healthy to meet today. I mean, I I
Speaker 1: don't know. I can't get inside how he was feeling.
Speaker 1: But he threw some dimes and some beautiful throws in
Speaker 1: the final eight minutes of garbage time, so it didn't
Speaker 1: look like a little bit and they they got a
Speaker 1: little back into this game. But before that, it was
Speaker 1: the worst performance by any team on offense in the
Speaker 1: NFL this season. I don't think it was that close.
Speaker 1: Nine in their first twelve possessions, which is usually an
Speaker 1: entire game, nine three and notes and two turnovers and
Speaker 1: then the block punt. Is that even their worst performance
Speaker 1: on the road this season. Both of the games you
Speaker 1: mentioned before they moved the ball at least Miami and Philadelphia,
Speaker 1: they all came on the road. This one came on
Speaker 1: the road. This is a problem for the Steelers. And
Speaker 1: we have this image of Big Ben riding on a
Speaker 1: white horse to save this team whenever he's injured in
Speaker 1: his career. Now, the first game back from injury, he's
Speaker 1: two and six with a seventy two passer rating. That
Speaker 1: almost speaks to and we don't know how how he's feeling,
Speaker 1: but in this race for him to be the hero
Speaker 1: guy that always comes back and beats expectations, maybe it's
Speaker 1: time from maybe to take that extra week. If if
Speaker 1: they're gonna play like but every time, well and we're
Speaker 1: used to Pittsburgh four or five years, we've been doing this.
Speaker 1: Every year, they're gonna have that game where you say
Speaker 1: that's not the Steelers, not today, And this is the
Speaker 1: third time they've done that, and it's there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a fourth and a fifth because this looks like a
Speaker 1: nine and seven eight and eight team, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: get one of those teams that wins this very average division,
Speaker 1: barring one of them rising up. The Ravens who just
Speaker 1: snapped a four game losing streak uh in the first
Speaker 1: week of November, now in first place, and they Cleveland.
Speaker 1: They play Cleveland in four days. And I wouldn't be
Speaker 1: surprised if Pittsburgh gets it going and lights it up
Speaker 1: by the end of the year, because they have these
Speaker 1: mid season lolls and then they do that, but they
Speaker 1: blow They blow their chance to get a bye with
Speaker 1: games like that. Don't you think that this low? I mean,
Speaker 1: because we talk about Big Ben riding in on the
Speaker 1: white horse, because he's done this before. Maybe it's not
Speaker 1: just post injury, but in general when he's on the field,
Speaker 1: they've been one of the most explosive offensive him in
Speaker 1: the a f C. And you trust them to get
Speaker 1: hot and maybe go to the super Bowl if that's
Speaker 1: what it leads to. This doesn't feel like that team
Speaker 1: to me. I don't trust them right now. Is it
Speaker 1: Big Ben more like a ride in on a TV
Speaker 1: without a helmet on type of guy? White More seems
Speaker 1: a little too classy. For him. Yeah, I don't see
Speaker 1: a lot of He's not riding animals like covered in mud.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously some of his buddies are trailing behind.
Speaker 1: There's beer cans on the ground. Nobody wants to talk
Speaker 1: about what's going on. Potentially, I don't know. It's we
Speaker 1: should give some credit to the Ravens defense. They were
Speaker 1: out there playing bidding them down. This is a defense defense.
Speaker 1: They're a good defense. They came out of the bye week,
Speaker 1: uh stuffing Levy on Bell. They doubled and tripled teamed
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, and he called out the rest of his team. Basically,
Speaker 1: if they're double and triple triple team and met, people
Speaker 1: gotta step up. But I think today that that person
Speaker 1: should have been Red and Roethlisberger. I mean he missed rows.
Speaker 1: I mean it was like accuracy problems more than anything. Well,
Speaker 1: Marcus Wheaton was a healthy scratch. And Darius Heyward Bay,
Speaker 1: who was having a really good year, must have had
Speaker 1: a major injury. He had a serious foot ankle injury
Speaker 1: that did not look good. Sammy Coates, if he caught
Speaker 1: a pass with four minutes left here, they were within
Speaker 1: a score. They started moving the ball the second of nothing,
Speaker 1: but he dropped it. That's what Sammy Coates does. But
Speaker 1: but the Ravens offenses not look any better. I mean,
Speaker 1: they really looked barely better than this. And there's another
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator switch that you know, sometimes these things go well.
Speaker 1: This has not going well at all for them. They
Speaker 1: have not fixed anything. The running game was a disaster
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Isn't it always at best proposition to do well?
Speaker 1: Last promotion in the spot. Last time the Ravens did it,
Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl and Jim Caldwell got a
Speaker 1: job out of it. Right, I mean to expect it
Speaker 1: to happen again. We banged on them for not running
Speaker 1: the ball, and today they came out. They they tried
Speaker 1: to run the ball the entire game, the first half,
Speaker 1: the whole thing. Terrence West kennethtics and carries for thirty
Speaker 1: four yards between the two of them. And we want
Speaker 1: to give it, we want to give credit on balanced
Speaker 1: to the Ravens for today's effort. We should not give
Speaker 1: credit to the kicker the Pittsburgh Steelers, uh Chris Boswell,
Speaker 1: who with the Steelers closed within a touchdown, they needed
Speaker 1: to recover an onside kick and score again. So things
Speaker 1: were really stacked up against them, but Chris Boswell got cute,
Speaker 1: only goes a half yard a second at tip to
Speaker 1: the kick five. Boswell further down field of flag is out.
Speaker 1: Steelers tumbled and dive on the football at the six,
Speaker 1: but it's moved as the Charlie Brownwell with only set
Speaker 1: the ball for six inches. That's Bill hill Grove of
Speaker 1: w DV Uh. This would be I didn't know what
Speaker 1: this was. I'm not a soccer fan, but when you
Speaker 1: do the move where you swing your dominant leg behind
Speaker 1: your other leg and then kick the ball in soccer,
Speaker 1: um is a rebanna rabona trying to kick it behind
Speaker 1: me like behind the back. Let him up with another
Speaker 1: name for it, Yeah, a boner. You could call it
Speaker 1: a boner as well. There that's where you went with it.
Speaker 1: I mean there are multiple other names that shouldn't be complimentary. Anyway,
Speaker 1: went six inches humiliating and I wrote in the end
Speaker 1: around uh that poor Chris Boswell should probably stay off
Speaker 1: the internet. I would say twelve years just the play
Speaker 1: it's safe anyway, Let's move one thing one more point.
Speaker 1: Chris Westley, John Harball has Mike Tomlin's number. That's four
Speaker 1: straight wins for the Ravens over the Steelers and six
Speaker 1: out of the last seven. Wow. Let's move on to
Speaker 1: the NFC Easts got to the ten to the five
Speaker 1: touchdown Giants, Bay, I'm just like that twenty six yards.
Speaker 1: O'Dell celebrates his twenty four birthday yesterday with a touchdown
Speaker 1: on Sunday against the Eagles. It's Bob Poppa right. I
Speaker 1: got Greg Poppa here said, at least you went out
Speaker 1: of your way to throw her under the bus. Well,
Speaker 1: because I'm getting a lot of Bob Popa heat on Twitter,
Speaker 1: we've been misidentifying whoever the Giants guys. Anyway, this is
Speaker 1: Bob Papa said, you're still on Rushmore. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: you do. They can't take you up. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: sand you off rush Well. It's too much work to
Speaker 1: take you off. So let's just, you know, keep her
Speaker 1: there anyway, Bob Bopa with a call Odell Beckham put
Speaker 1: his team ahead early in The Giants stayed in front
Speaker 1: for the rest of the afternoon, eventually heading home with
Speaker 1: a win over the Eagles and a game. Oh that's right,
Speaker 1: Old Danny boy, the old Zeusa locked it up. Chris Wessling.
Speaker 1: That's three in a row. Count them, Patrick, Are we
Speaker 1: up to on locks of the week? Yet win over
Speaker 1: the Eagles in a game ended with a big fourth
Speaker 1: down stop in the red zone. Chris Westling, The Eagles
Speaker 1: gave away points in this game and it cost them dearly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was a mistake filled game for the Eagles, starting
Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz. First two possessions ended in interceptions that
Speaker 1: really set the Giants up for touchdowns on both of those,
Speaker 1: so they were already down fourteen to nothing to start.
Speaker 1: And then two different situations where it was fourth in
Speaker 1: short and easy field goal range, Doug Peterson opted to
Speaker 1: go for the fourth down instead of field goals. Giants
Speaker 1: sniffed out both of them. They lost six points there.
Speaker 1: They lost another three points on a blocked field goal
Speaker 1: from Caleb Sturgis, and then with the game on the line,
Speaker 1: Connor Barwin and Jordan Hicks combined for a spectacular play.
Speaker 1: Barwin batted the ball down, Hicks intercepted it diving interception
Speaker 1: gave the ball to the Eagles in the red zone
Speaker 1: with a chance to win the game. Fourth and tang
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and Jordan Matthews couldn't get on the same
Speaker 1: page on an end zone fade, which was fitting considering
Speaker 1: the red zone troubles all day. Eagles are last place
Speaker 1: at the NFC East four and four. They've had their chances.
Speaker 1: This is this game is the story of their season really,
Speaker 1: where it feels like they kind of look like the
Speaker 1: better team in some ways in terms of their in
Speaker 1: position to score more often than the other team, and
Speaker 1: they just don't finish it out. Well. Part of this
Speaker 1: was it started with Odell Beckham's brilliance. The twenty six
Speaker 1: yards slant touchdown is not a touchdown. Definitely, No other
Speaker 1: receivers on on the Giants is taking that more than
Speaker 1: seven or eight yards, and most other receivers in the
Speaker 1: league aren't taking that for a first down. He takes
Speaker 1: it for a touchdown. Mike Wallace might be the only one.
Speaker 1: He had a ninety five yard I don't think Mike
Speaker 1: Wallace is beating the angle that Odell Beckham beat on
Speaker 1: that play. And that's why Odell Beckham is the highest
Speaker 1: UH receiving touchdowns per game rate in NFL history, right, um,
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham is a special special player. Well, he's a
Speaker 1: lot better than UH Mike Wallace, that's for sure. What
Speaker 1: are you getting at? I was just that was kind
Speaker 1: of just, you know, this Eagles team, football football head stuff.
Speaker 1: They are one in four over the last five games
Speaker 1: and now play the Falcon, Seahawks, Packers, Bengal and Redskins,
Speaker 1: and then the Ravens, Giants and Cowboys. It doesn't it
Speaker 1: doesn't really ease up for them. I this was the
Speaker 1: team after they were started out three and oh and
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz to play. He was playing early. Still think
Speaker 1: there's a lot to like about Carson Wentz, but this
Speaker 1: is an incomplete offense that is struggling with their wide
Speaker 1: receiver problem. It sounds like someone stepped up today though,
Speaker 1: a newcomer, Bryce Tregg's who treg Bomb. Yeah, nice bro.
Speaker 1: They used him apparently as their go route specialist. Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz hit him on a fifty eight yard play action
Speaker 1: pass and they tried another deep pass down the sideline
Speaker 1: after failing to trade for Tory Smith. He stepped up
Speaker 1: a bit. But they aren't getting much out of Nelson
Speaker 1: Aghilor and getting nothing out of Dorial Green Beckham Um,
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's probably a personnel issue, but mark some
Speaker 1: solace for you and what's been a tough season of
Speaker 1: course at the Browns. That Carson Wentz is not gonna
Speaker 1: have some thirteen and three glory boys season where he
Speaker 1: wins offensive rookie in there you got, I mean, you're
Speaker 1: not rooting against the kids. A little bit of it's
Speaker 1: not gonna have a special season, A little sell it
Speaker 1: is solace. I mean, I it's barely on my radar.
Speaker 1: It sounds honestly because when they're losing these games, it's
Speaker 1: I understand that Carson Wentz has made, you know, a
Speaker 1: few more mistakes in the last couple he's called he's
Speaker 1: he was turnover. He was not a turnover guy early on.
Speaker 1: That's happening. But I see it as an issue with
Speaker 1: the whole scheme, not just him. I don't think Wentz
Speaker 1: is at fault for this, but more my point that
Speaker 1: no glory. But where is if you listen, where where
Speaker 1: you are with this NFL season where my personal interests lie,
Speaker 1: There is zero solace on any front? What zero? What
Speaker 1: is your feelings about you know, Paul Perkins getting more
Speaker 1: carries this week or will you know they mix well
Speaker 1: get well tied in the mix A little less hilariy
Speaker 1: that now McAdoo making smooth. I mean you're running for
Speaker 1: two point three yards for carry. Wesley Fried the Giants
Speaker 1: ground game on Thursday. Nothing has changed on that front. Well,
Speaker 1: let me make a point about this Giant West did
Speaker 1: they scored? They passed. Eli passed for as many touchdowns
Speaker 1: today as he had in his last four games combined.
Speaker 1: Don't think that means the offense is fixed. After Sterling
Speaker 1: Shepherd's thirty two yard touchdown to open the third quarter,
Speaker 1: they have less than fifty yards the rest of the
Speaker 1: way combined. And this offense is the averaging sixty eight
Speaker 1: point three rushing yards per game, which would be the
Speaker 1: Giants worst rushing attack in seventy five years. They had
Speaker 1: seven thirty point games last season when they were a
Speaker 1: bad team. They have zero thirty point games. That people
Speaker 1: forget how bad the Giants were for how long in
Speaker 1: the in the seventies. To that is a crazy At
Speaker 1: least they're trying to change something like they didn't have
Speaker 1: Cruise in there quite as much. I think he then
Speaker 1: got injured. No, but before that he didn't start the game.
Speaker 1: He was in and out of the game. You know,
Speaker 1: they're at least trying to mix in some of the
Speaker 1: younger players. Alright, So the Giants are now five and
Speaker 1: three alone in second place in the NFC East. Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: you think they made up ground, Well, let's find out.
Speaker 1: Nailed it. Second down in six at six, pressed up
Speaker 1: deep out for the right number one, covering Whitton at
Speaker 1: the tongue and he walks it in touchdown. What he's
Speaker 1: a touchdown machine, I tell you, all right, calm down.
Speaker 1: Brad Sham of kr LD. By the way, one more
Speaker 1: point said you have here, Greg Papaya two g s
Speaker 1: at the end. I just looked it up on Google.
Speaker 1: Greg papa is one G. Well here's I thought, Greg, Yeah,
Speaker 1: to drop homage in a big good homage in a
Speaker 1: big spot. But I just want to say, Sydney, I
Speaker 1: can forward you the human resources direct email if you
Speaker 1: want to clean up some of this behavior that received
Speaker 1: receiving just strageous. I just feel like accuracies what we're
Speaker 1: looking for here. But no one would have known, only you.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's yeah, it's handwritten. Could have addressed it
Speaker 1: after the show. I felt some coaches would handle it
Speaker 1: in that way. Thank you, you know, taking outside of
Speaker 1: the public and just take her aside after the show.
Speaker 1: But you're you're more of it, Jon Gruden style. Let's
Speaker 1: burn my bridges with all my payers, you know. Recently,
Speaker 1: Chad Johnson shared a story that when the Patriots came
Speaker 1: back from their two thousand tents season, when the Jets
Speaker 1: beat the Pats at home, the first thing Bill Parcels
Speaker 1: did in theirs or Bill Belichick did in the team
Speaker 1: meeting was barry tom Brady in front of everyone. Why
Speaker 1: because he doesn't like Tom Brady. No, because he knows
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady is a franchise stud like Sydney. And
Speaker 1: sometimes when you send a message to the stud in
Speaker 1: front of the whole room. So what are the audience
Speaker 1: than people? What are you saying about Mark, Greg and
Speaker 1: I that were so bad that you have to send
Speaker 1: a message to Sydney. You guys are role players here.
Speaker 1: Sydney is an absolute stud. Here's what Bill Belichick should
Speaker 1: have said. Get out of the room. Chad Johnson, you're
Speaker 1: gonna cost us a champion. I mean yeah, talk about
Speaker 1: a guy that was, you know, not exactly the missing
Speaker 1: piece for that Patriots team. I do like whenever Chad Johnson,
Speaker 1: you always Greg have a shot about it's true, it's
Speaker 1: they had spent their five million dollars elsewhere or just
Speaker 1: not on him, they would have won the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: or maybe better gloves for West Welker. But anyway, you
Speaker 1: had Albert Haynesworth too, So let's that was Bill Belichick's
Speaker 1: bizarre year. Net we digress anyway, the Cowboys keep rolling
Speaker 1: one g and Greg Papa Dak Press got through three touchdowns,
Speaker 1: including the one you just heard well several minutes ago
Speaker 1: to Jason Witten, and Zeke Elliott continued to enhance his
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year bona fides in a thirty five
Speaker 1: ten win over the hapless Brown's in Cleveland. Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: so much for the talk of a trap game for
Speaker 1: Big d Well there. You know, it's funny that even
Speaker 1: bubbled up on the broadcast early that could this be
Speaker 1: a trap game? And I'm sure we'll hear the same
Speaker 1: thing when Cleveland plays Baltimore on Thursday night enough, because
Speaker 1: we talked about in the preview for this that Cleveland's
Speaker 1: defense and secondary is such an issue that you'd have
Speaker 1: to literally be injury beset or completely stumble over yourselves
Speaker 1: or show up potentially not sober to the game. To
Speaker 1: not pile up yardage and points against this Browns defense,
Speaker 1: and they went right at them with the number one
Speaker 1: weakness to Cleveland's dealt with all year long, and that
Speaker 1: is not the inability to deal with playmaking tight ends.
Speaker 1: Jason Witten had a hundred plus yards thirty one minutes
Speaker 1: into this game. But the game was over much sooner
Speaker 1: than that. You knew the Dallas on their first two
Speaker 1: drives right down the field clock chewing effective touchdown drives,
Speaker 1: that this thing was over. Cleveland was moving the ball
Speaker 1: to some degree on offense, it didn't matter. Their defense
Speaker 1: is an open barn door that you can roll through.
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott continue to you know, they say, oh, Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott ninety two yards, why not the heights of previous weeks.
Speaker 1: Didn't need him to. The guy was yanked midway through
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. Every little part of Dallas's offense was
Speaker 1: used in this game, and Cleveland's defense was fully exposed
Speaker 1: from minute one. This was another game with more than
Speaker 1: four yards the total offense for the Cowboys. I think
Speaker 1: the streak now is something about six weeks in that range.
Speaker 1: And they are for real. They are for real. You
Speaker 1: want to go mess with the chemistry and change the
Speaker 1: quarterback and do all that have a nice time with it.
Speaker 1: This Dallas team couldn't agree more with what Chris said.
Speaker 1: This is the team in the NFC, barring something strange
Speaker 1: that has to be dealt with. They are streaking towards
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Whoa hot hot They're that good, Zekiel,
Speaker 1: they are. But they also last week we're a very
Speaker 1: lucky couple of bounces away from losing at home to
Speaker 1: the Eagles. And that's what happens. It's NFL games against
Speaker 1: division rivals. I don't think they're an unbeatable team. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they're unbeatable, but they win games in different ways.
Speaker 1: They're not a one trick pony. They get into a
Speaker 1: tight situation that got themselves out of it today against
Speaker 1: a lesser team, they dropped a hammer right away. They
Speaker 1: deserve to be considered the favorites in the NFC. And
Speaker 1: if you think differently, you're making excuses for other teams
Speaker 1: instead of giving the Cowboys. You know, it's looking ahead,
Speaker 1: it's not it's assuming that what we've seen to this
Speaker 1: point isn't what we're gonna see. So you see the
Speaker 1: Seahawks offensive line is no problem in their lack of
Speaker 1: a I have faith in them. You know this is
Speaker 1: off topic. I have faith in them figuring things out later.
Speaker 1: And I agree. But Dallas Dallas right now, there's not
Speaker 1: the defense. How the NFL season goes, it's not like
Speaker 1: this is going to be the team we see in
Speaker 1: Week thirties. Everything is I'm let's do the week thirteen recount.
Speaker 1: Considering their lack of experience. They could continue to grow
Speaker 1: and get better throughout. Defense could get better. It's been,
Speaker 1: it's been unbelievable. Two are the most promising aspects of
Speaker 1: their team are guys in their first season. They're only
Speaker 1: going to get better and learn, So I think, uh,
Speaker 1: I think Dallas certainly arns it. I think if we
Speaker 1: see a Seattle Dallas playoff game, knowing how Seattle plays
Speaker 1: in the postseason, I think it's a very good guy.
Speaker 1: I would love to see that. Sure we're in Atlanta
Speaker 1: Dallas game. That would be fun to watch. Uh. Let's
Speaker 1: move on check in on the defending NFC champions. Newton
Speaker 1: brings him up, sets him down with a three by
Speaker 1: one set free receivers faced out to the left. The
Speaker 1: third down play, It's a throw litten ends are middle
Speaker 1: of the end zone, caught a wide open Greg Olson.
Speaker 1: It's Carolina leading six. It wasn't pretty, but the Carolina
Speaker 1: Panthers got the job job done on Sunday at the Caliseum,
Speaker 1: leaning on their defense and the offensive dysfunction of their opposition,
Speaker 1: and a thirteen ten win over the Rams Mark Settler
Speaker 1: who locked it up? That'd be Greg with two. What
Speaker 1: do you think about this West? We're starting to lock
Speaker 1: things up on the reg I mean I'd like to
Speaker 1: see sustained for more than two weeks. Lock game on
Speaker 1: fleek almost like Yeah, Greg's had some white sneakers. Put
Speaker 1: them up there for everyone to see. Greg, Oh they're
Speaker 1: so white, just like us. Um you walked into a
Speaker 1: store and purchase those for yourself. Oh yeah, I love
Speaker 1: They're fine. We got a lot of got like them.
Speaker 1: They're a little squeaky, a little they're a little kind
Speaker 1: of like somebody that works at a sanitarium. They have
Speaker 1: to wear the white shoes. They're nice, they're good, all right,
Speaker 1: what's let's break this down taking shoe criticism from Sessler
Speaker 1: over there? Give me where do I put myself out? There?
Speaker 1: Is someone that should be dishing that out, but I
Speaker 1: you know, they stand out to me mark the Rams.
Speaker 1: They got a late score to make it respect Al
Speaker 1: Michaels would have liked it, but it sounds like we
Speaker 1: were getting closer to you know, about midway through the
Speaker 1: third quarter. I got up and uh walked outside just
Speaker 1: to sit down on this little ledge outside our workplace.
Speaker 1: And I very nearly just got in my car and
Speaker 1: went home because this game was a hard watch. It
Speaker 1: really was. And I you know, listen, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't want to. I don't have a million takeaways from
Speaker 1: this game. This was a pathetic showing of football on
Speaker 1: the offensive side for both teams. I will give St.
Speaker 1: Louis some credit. They are a team that wants to
Speaker 1: score about ten points a game. Check and sorry the
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Nothing's changed from that St. Louis team to
Speaker 1: this Rams team in Los Angeles. Let's start right there.
Speaker 1: They punished Cam Newton. Aaron Donald played a fantastic game
Speaker 1: and disrupted Carolina from the start. Carolina wants to run
Speaker 1: the ball. They could not do it today. Two point
Speaker 1: four yards per carry. Jonathan Stewart never got off track.
Speaker 1: But you're playing the Rams, you put up thirteen points,
Speaker 1: and if another team with a competent offense punished Caroline
Speaker 1: in this way, we'd be talking about a two and
Speaker 1: six Panthers team that is that is done. Instead they're
Speaker 1: hanging around three and five. I'm not sure that there
Speaker 1: aren't a lot of concerns for the Carolina Panthers, but
Speaker 1: the Rams, they've got a bigger one. They want to
Speaker 1: live this lie that Case Keenum is a starting quarterback
Speaker 1: that you roll through the season with. He misses a
Speaker 1: wide open Brian Quick deep down the sideline at one point,
Speaker 1: and he missed all sorts of throws and he killed
Speaker 1: him with a turnover, an interception, a great catch by
Speaker 1: Thomas Davis in the second half. Let's heart, Let's hear
Speaker 1: what Jeff Fisher had to say last week. Of course
Speaker 1: he was uh steadfast and his support for Case Keenum
Speaker 1: a little bit more on the fence, Greg Rosenthal after
Speaker 1: Sunday's game, Case wasn't the reason that we lost this
Speaker 1: game today. You know, we just we just didn't make
Speaker 1: place in all three phases. So you know, we'll we'll
Speaker 1: circle the wagons with the coaches and look at the tape.
Speaker 1: But um, please with the way Case has fought uh
Speaker 1: and also um as I say consistently repeatedly week after week.
Speaker 1: I'm pleased with jarge progress. I mean that it doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like any type of changes imminent by but the
Speaker 1: words he chose, Greg, it's important to read through the
Speaker 1: read the tea leaves well when he said we have
Speaker 1: to go back and look at it. And he also
Speaker 1: did an interview with the team, I believe on the
Speaker 1: local station where he said, you know, we'll consider everything.
Speaker 1: Usually when they start saying we'll consider everything, it's changed times.
Speaker 1: I don't like him saying that they did that. They
Speaker 1: made mistakes in all three phases. Well, that's going to
Speaker 1: happen to every team every week. But this defense did
Speaker 1: all it could to keep this team in the game.
Speaker 1: The Panthers had two forty four yards. I didn't watch
Speaker 1: this game closely or anything, but that's great. I mean
Speaker 1: that's a tiny, tiny amount. It was a punt fest, yeah,
Speaker 1: and they got they got a bunch of yardage on
Speaker 1: a late garbage touchdown. Essentially, I would think and listen, Greg,
Speaker 1: football's business, the NFL, it's a business. Odell Beckham a
Speaker 1: great talent. Why are you telling you speaking Trump is
Speaker 1: ums right on the eve of the election. But uh,
Speaker 1: the fact that the Rams it's terrible. I can't do
Speaker 1: I can't do it. Trump I we don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about it in a couple of days, so we're cool.
Speaker 1: The fact that there's an eighty thousand people at the
Speaker 1: Colisseum chanting for Jared Goff. Ownership knows they're trying to
Speaker 1: build a fan base back in l A. I. I
Speaker 1: would be very surprised if we don't see him in
Speaker 1: the next Los Angeles game. West. I know you've been
Speaker 1: very strong about, uh, this idea that golf is not ready,
Speaker 1: so don't put him in when he's not ready. But
Speaker 1: you can't just send out a guy in Case Keenum
Speaker 1: every week. You can't do it. I'm not saying we
Speaker 1: have to trust the Rams coaching staff because when it
Speaker 1: comes to quarterbacks, they're the least trustworthy coaching staff in
Speaker 1: the league, including Jeff Fisher, who wants to play both
Speaker 1: sides of the fence and say Case isn't the reason
Speaker 1: we lost this game, although they spent all off season
Speaker 1: telling us Case Keenum went four and o down the stretch,
Speaker 1: because if Case Keenum was the reason they were winning
Speaker 1: those games. You can't play both sides of the fence.
Speaker 1: I got a text this afternoon from somebody who was
Speaker 1: at the stadium and asked me, who's who's golf? It
Speaker 1: was obviously somebody who's not a football family said, they
Speaker 1: keep yelling this guy's name the whole game. Can I
Speaker 1: say one thing before, because case keenum, we're gonna hear
Speaker 1: it from some Rams fans. He is not to blame
Speaker 1: for a pass at the goal line to Lance Kendricks
Speaker 1: right on the numbers. Kendricks just allows it to bounce
Speaker 1: off him to the ground. That's a big misplay for
Speaker 1: the Rams, but they are a They are going to
Speaker 1: give you thirteen and seventeen points a game, tops and
Speaker 1: Lance Kendricks defense and the replay it shows that did
Speaker 1: not hit him center in the eight. It was maybe
Speaker 1: a little bit like three inches to where it eight was.
Speaker 1: You gotta put it on the guy. I mean, if
Speaker 1: it's you or I, it needs to be put softly
Speaker 1: into our hands. We will not catch anything. But this
Speaker 1: guy needed to catch that. I think it's time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what if you watched the preseason, I think it was
Speaker 1: evident that Jaredkoff wasn't close to being ready to play
Speaker 1: in the NFL, but I think it's time after you
Speaker 1: start giving him first team reps, which they did during
Speaker 1: the bye week, it's time. You know what case Keenum is,
Speaker 1: see what the rookie and you're not playoff team. Let's
Speaker 1: stop pretending that we are. You're not, so now it
Speaker 1: is time. I couldn't agree more. And I think this
Speaker 1: Panthers team, they're gonna be in primetime here coming up
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think they're gonna matter in the
Speaker 1: second half. I know this isn't a pretty performance, but
Speaker 1: their eventsive line came out looking like a different defense.
Speaker 1: Last week. They did it again. You're absolutely right about
Speaker 1: it again. Today they chance the same way the Cam
Speaker 1: was punished. They punished Case Keenan. They're they're their defensive line.
Speaker 1: Since the buy has come to life, and the wild
Speaker 1: card race in the NFC couldn't be more wide open.
Speaker 1: It's like the a f C South's entire division is
Speaker 1: the wild card. It should be said on the At
Speaker 1: the same time, though, just not a lot of juice
Speaker 1: watching the Panthers right now, especially got issues, but it
Speaker 1: just seems to be something missing. If you he was
Speaker 1: Cam Newton, I think there were only two or three
Speaker 1: quarterbacks hit less than Cam Newton last year. It is
Speaker 1: the opposite right now, and they said it in the
Speaker 1: NBC pregame show before Sunday n A Football. I agree
Speaker 1: with this. He does not seem to trust his offensive
Speaker 1: line and there's a good reason for that. Right now,
Speaker 1: lest I think the friend of yours that didn't know
Speaker 1: who golf was after them through an interception and the
Speaker 1: third quarter as Fox through a break, you can hear
Speaker 1: some guy by one of the parabolic Mike's hollering t bow.
Speaker 1: T Bow could have been the person who sent me
Speaker 1: the text. Maybe let's move to the a f C
Speaker 1: East with a high end over red kicked Kenyan Drake
Speaker 1: at the far side left five yards, he brings it
Speaker 1: out a lane across the thirty right sidelock fifty half
Speaker 1: the Jet forty. He might go touchdown. Part to believe
Speaker 1: the Jets give up a kickoff returned for a touchdown
Speaker 1: with five fifteen to go on the fourth quarter, and
Speaker 1: now the Dolphins have to lead again. That's my boy.
Speaker 1: Bob was shoosing of W E. P N an absolute
Speaker 1: killer for the Jets. Just when it looked like the
Speaker 1: Jets are about to steal one in Miami. Kenyan Drake
Speaker 1: took a nick fuck kickoff to the house after a
Speaker 1: penalty offside penalty on the Jets allowed for a re
Speaker 1: kick uh to rub it in the decisive blow and
Speaker 1: three win four the Miami Dolphins um the Jets wait,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, no, no. The Jets in spite
Speaker 1: of themselves and put themselves in position to win this
Speaker 1: game when Ryan Fitzpatrick connected with Jalen Marshall on an
Speaker 1: eighteen yard touchdown with five minutes to play, Jet ste
Speaker 1: getting stops every single time in the second half. But then,
Speaker 1: in true Jet fashion, I say, I've been saying it
Speaker 1: for four years in this podcast. They they find ways
Speaker 1: to really stick it to the fan base. They're very
Speaker 1: good at that. Uh this time, with the game all
Speaker 1: but one, with one more stop to give up a
Speaker 1: kickoff for a touchdown that essentially leaves them without a
Speaker 1: pulse at the season's halfway point. And meanwhile, the Dolphins
Speaker 1: gentlemen have won three straight. Okay, so that's good, good
Speaker 1: weading for them, but you're good about themselves. But there
Speaker 1: were no playoff teams to be found in Hot Rocks Stadium.
Speaker 1: A fun, entertaining game, but not one that you're gonna
Speaker 1: send to can't put it that way. Shouldn't we give
Speaker 1: Adam Gates some credit? I mean we we suspected that
Speaker 1: he might have been a little overmatched, and Gregg has
Speaker 1: said his performances at the MIC have not been good.
Speaker 1: But he's rebuilt this team around J G I and
Speaker 1: they fit. They have fit their scheme to his strength.
Speaker 1: As Bucky Books Bucky Brooks wrote last week, last three games,
Speaker 1: he's had the most yards in a three game span
Speaker 1: since Adrian Peterson's two thousand, twelve mbps. And it's interesting
Speaker 1: because Connor Or, who wrote this up watched this game closely,
Speaker 1: called this because he had the two yard performances today
Speaker 1: a hundred and eleven yards, called this the best performance
Speaker 1: of the three I'll have to watch last week. I
Speaker 1: watched this game closely. Obviously, he had a thirty yard
Speaker 1: touchdown run uh great blocking, got around the corner and
Speaker 1: then got absolutely stuffed for the better part of three
Speaker 1: quarters and then probably got gained about forty yards in
Speaker 1: the last drive when the Jets were basically done and
Speaker 1: they were running out the clock. So this was you
Speaker 1: give him credit, maybe he's making in the opponent versus
Speaker 1: who they were against the opponent. Yeah, that was great.
Speaker 1: I will mention most teams don't even have the last
Speaker 1: week's tackle breaking performance against the Bills was the best
Speaker 1: game I've seen by a running back. Oh yea one
Speaker 1: more note he had weeks ago. We have a touchdown
Speaker 1: on a third yard run. Uh. Both all right? So
Speaker 1: j just a guy both Sheldon Richardson and Mo Wilkerson
Speaker 1: for disciplinary reasons, most likely did not play in the
Speaker 1: first quarter. So that was odd. You're going against no,
Speaker 1: not the Jet defense that's been stuffing people all season long.
Speaker 1: And West you you made the comment on Thursday show
Speaker 1: that the circus was back in town with the Jets.
Speaker 1: It's not as bad as the bad old days of
Speaker 1: t bow and the things of that nature. But stuff
Speaker 1: like this the one quarter band. Uh, we saw. That's
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be your leaders. Wilkerson, by the way,
Speaker 1: didn't speak to the media. I don't know about either
Speaker 1: of those guys. I gotta be honest in terms of
Speaker 1: what kind of what kind of locker room guys those are.
Speaker 1: I know they gave Mo a lot of money the
Speaker 1: leadership and Brandon Marshall's your best locker room guy. You
Speaker 1: got trouble. The Jets have it. It looks like to
Speaker 1: me they have a chemistry issue and uh and also
Speaker 1: a talent issue. So it's kind of a lost season.
Speaker 1: But the Dolphins they deserve credit. I think that it's
Speaker 1: still a hard team to watch on offense. I know, uh,
Speaker 1: they they have tried to change things from last year
Speaker 1: to make them a little more dynamic. But Handsome Hank,
Speaker 1: who I was in contact with all day on our
Speaker 1: instant messenger client big Dolphins fan um says it's clear
Speaker 1: to him and I saw the same thing that Gays
Speaker 1: and Tannehill that is not a match. Still, there's not
Speaker 1: a lot of trust from Gays to Tannehill, not not
Speaker 1: giving him a lot of options. Perfect example, at the
Speaker 1: end of the first half in a fourteen thirteen game,
Speaker 1: Dolphins up, Uh, he takes a sack Tannehill. So, but
Speaker 1: they have two time outs thirty seconds at their forty
Speaker 1: You know, you could still make a couple of plays
Speaker 1: get into field goal range. Gay says, no, let's get
Speaker 1: the hell out of here. They go to which I
Speaker 1: hate when coaches do that. But if it's an issue
Speaker 1: where I don't trust my offense to make plays then execute.
Speaker 1: Maybe you do take the lead into the locker room,
Speaker 1: but it just shows you something exposure and it's working.
Speaker 1: I mean a gi a g e. He is not
Speaker 1: a Fluke. I don't think. I don't. I think the
Speaker 1: size and the lateral movement that he has is rare.
Speaker 1: I mean, the power, the the the ability to move
Speaker 1: his feet at that size is incredible, And I mean
Speaker 1: I think he might be in it for good. Here
Speaker 1: those second year running backs between him and Gordon think
Speaker 1: they're going to be around a while. Then ahead, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, Kenyan Drake, the guy with the kickoff
Speaker 1: return moving up my Kenyan rankings? Really where is he now?
Speaker 1: He's third behind Kenyan Martin and Kenyan marathon runners. Yes,
Speaker 1: I had a feeling you're gonna go there was and
Speaker 1: I you did not disappoint me. Your thoughts on that
Speaker 1: bit A hey I got before we throw to Keith,
Speaker 1: I just want to say, I, although I was getting
Speaker 1: a little bit excited about the prospect of a five
Speaker 1: and five into the bye week, I picked against the
Speaker 1: Jets this week. I was never really thinking they were
Speaker 1: a good team. My dad is a true Jet fan,
Speaker 1: A true uh in the sense that no matter where
Speaker 1: they are in the standings, he's excited for the game,
Speaker 1: whether they're ten and three or three and ten, and
Speaker 1: the losses and losses hit just as hard. Let's hear
Speaker 1: Keith after a killer Jets loss. His name is Keith.
Speaker 1: He's danced, don't doubt about it. He's a big Jets fan.
Speaker 1: What is he going to say? Game to say? What
Speaker 1: is he going to Jet's Week nine? Only the Jets
Speaker 1: can blow a game like this today today it was
Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous after they came back to get ahead, and
Speaker 1: then after they re kick and then the guy returning
Speaker 1: at ninety six yards totally outrageous. Um. But Patrick is
Speaker 1: absolutely maddening in the way he's inconsistent. Quick petty in
Speaker 1: and let's move on. Uh, that's it. Thanks, he nailed.
Speaker 1: He nailed the biggest takeaway for the right there. It's time.
Speaker 1: It is absolutely time. I know Todd Bowls, there's loyalty involved,
Speaker 1: which is an overrated thing in in football, in sports
Speaker 1: in general sometimes. But Ryan fits Patrick threw a touchdown
Speaker 1: to put them ahead, and you know they probably had
Speaker 1: I would guess chance and win at that point. So
Speaker 1: you might say, oh, well, that's why we're gonna bring
Speaker 1: him back. But if that's Fitzpatrick through two more killer interception,
Speaker 1: including a dreadful, dreadful red zone pick, and you're not
Speaker 1: going anywhere. We all know that, And why not, Let's
Speaker 1: see what we got. You know, who knows. Bryce Petty
Speaker 1: might be terrible, But let's see what we got and
Speaker 1: maybe you'll catch the magic in a bottle and you
Speaker 1: know what you have going into the offseason. I'm sick
Speaker 1: of it. I'm with you, Dad. Let's move on. Board
Speaker 1: is raising the right leg, waiting for it under pressure,
Speaker 1: holds on fires at light the passes income Plaine and
Speaker 1: Chas hold the Fort steven. We will send defense the
Speaker 1: crossing pattern intended for the receiver. Brian Walters and the
Speaker 1: Chiefs plant the Kingdom flagg on fourth out on three
Speaker 1: and hold the fourth with one in the game. Little
Speaker 1: Stephen Nelson popping a big spot. It's really on message
Speaker 1: with the whole hold. The four Chiefs got it nailed
Speaker 1: at mitch Holders casey f x one oh one the Fox.
Speaker 1: The chief took advantage of an avalanche of Jaguar's mistakes
Speaker 1: and made a stop in the final minutes that you
Speaker 1: just heard to preserve a nineteen fourteen win over the
Speaker 1: putred Jacksonville Jaguars. West The Chiefs are rarely pretty, but
Speaker 1: they continue to get the job done. And can we
Speaker 1: relegate the Jags? Is that is that in play with
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. Speaking of teams that need to sit the
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, the Jaguars at the top of the list.
Speaker 1: You cannot keep going entire first halves without moving the ball,
Speaker 1: and I think that that Blake bortles mechanical issues are
Speaker 1: so severe that they're affecting his receivers to the point
Speaker 1: where you question the receiver's effort at this point. Julius
Speaker 1: Thomas Allen Robinson, I don't know if they're running out
Speaker 1: their routes at full speed. I don't think they trust
Speaker 1: the quarterback to put the ball on them, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if I blame them. Blake Bortles isn't an
Speaker 1: effort issue. You won't see a quarterback trying more on
Speaker 1: scrambles sacrificing his body. He knows he's terrible as a thrower.
Speaker 1: Right now, the Jaguars have to sit him down and
Speaker 1: fix that throwing motion because they're killing their team and
Speaker 1: I know they're attached to him the current regime, but
Speaker 1: they're not gonna fix this without setting him down. He's
Speaker 1: a mess. Get him fixed. What a terrible fix to
Speaker 1: be in as an organization, because it looked like they
Speaker 1: were they had won this when they boldly went after
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles at the top of the draft a couple
Speaker 1: of seasons ago. And now you have no other option.
Speaker 1: You can't possibly talk about drafting someone else. And that
Speaker 1: you look at this Jaguars team from week to week,
Speaker 1: there is nothing to hang your hat on. There is.
Speaker 1: They did have a ground attack today and maybe that's
Speaker 1: a promising sign for Nathan Hackett in his first game
Speaker 1: as offensive coordina. They go forever two yards the ground.
Speaker 1: Chris Ivory. Chris Ivory had his best game by far
Speaker 1: and probably averaged over ten yards per carry. He looked good.
Speaker 1: This just as a Blake Bortles issue, and he concerned
Speaker 1: about the Chiefs after this game. Four d forty nine
Speaker 1: yards for the Jaguars, two hundred thirty one for Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Granted it's Nick Foles starting Sharkandric West, but it wasn't
Speaker 1: The Chief's office got himself thrown out of the damn
Speaker 1: game for being a jackal Oh. I loved what Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey did. I thought it was hilarious and brought me
Speaker 1: much entertainment sports are supposed to do. Wait a second,
Speaker 1: you don't want a guy taking out his time the
Speaker 1: ref h. I mean that's the last boy scout west Hey.
Speaker 1: After the performance the refs have had this year, I
Speaker 1: thought it was fine, all right, good, agree to disagree.
Speaker 1: One for the player. Did it come at a how
Speaker 1: much time was left in this game when he pulled
Speaker 1: this stunt? There was plenty of time left. The Chiefs
Speaker 1: had a comfortable lead at the time. It wasn't comfortable
Speaker 1: by the end because you know, Blake Bortles starts to
Speaker 1: move the ball in the fourth West wats his playmakers
Speaker 1: acting like w W E superstars. I thought it was fun.
Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. I thought it was great. Until
Speaker 1: we get better officiating in the NFL, I'm fine with
Speaker 1: It's still bad Ford five and a half sacks the
Speaker 1: last two weeks nine on the season, and when he
Speaker 1: makes some of those offensive lineman miss he looks like
Speaker 1: a rotting back or something cutting through the hole. He's
Speaker 1: coming on. But to answer your question about their offense,
Speaker 1: Nick Foles had one really pretty throw to Albert Wilson
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. Other than that really struggled with his accuracy,
Speaker 1: and they had their worst third down performance as a
Speaker 1: team on offense in many years ten first down. This
Speaker 1: is one of those games of the Chiefs will end
Speaker 1: up being in the playoffs. There might not be a
Speaker 1: very exciting wild card race, and it's because the Chiefs
Speaker 1: just find a way to win games like this when
Speaker 1: when they no Jeremy Macklin, no Jamal Charles, no Spencer
Speaker 1: wear and for half the game no Travis Kelsey, you
Speaker 1: can't expect fools to work miracles. And you you asked Dan,
Speaker 1: I think it was on Thursday. If we if in
Speaker 1: general Andy Reid is underrated as a coach, I think
Speaker 1: he's often just forgotten in the conversation coach of his generation. Well,
Speaker 1: I'll say this, if you're if you're anyone who suffers
Speaker 1: through you know, watching a team that you just up
Speaker 1: all the Jets, that just drops games in the regular
Speaker 1: season week after week, and explicably the Chiefs one of
Speaker 1: the sixteen of eighteen in the last eighteen regular season games.
Speaker 1: That's phenomenal because this is not the most talented team
Speaker 1: even in their own division, much less the a f
Speaker 1: C Let's swing back to the a f C West
Speaker 1: Mariota back run. It's in the coverage picked off by
Speaker 1: Flowers to the far sideline, fifteen ten five Don's down
Speaker 1: San Diego. Brandon Flowers jumped the route, picked it off,
Speaker 1: took that in a thirty three yard and the Chargers
Speaker 1: have stored again. Josh lowin ki o Z. Yes, our
Speaker 1: old friend, Brandon Flowers, you want to make flowers today?
Speaker 1: Hit me again, said you want to make flowers one more?
Speaker 1: You want to make flowers today? Our old friend Brandon
Speaker 1: Flowers at the games clinching play and Melvin Gordon's comeback season.
Speaker 1: He hit a high point in the Chargers win over
Speaker 1: the Titans. The Bolts, left for dead by most after
Speaker 1: a ridiculous one and fourth start, are now four and five,
Speaker 1: still in the playoff picture, you know vaguely, but there
Speaker 1: in the mix Greg the Charges, it's the spicy redemption.
Speaker 1: It was a Melvin Gordon game to end all Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon games. Spice racks Twitter mentions, lighten it up today,
Speaker 1: because you know you said that the Flowers play was
Speaker 1: the clinching game. But this the play. But this is
Speaker 1: the Chargers. You know it's gonna wait. You're gonna wait
Speaker 1: until the last minute. And Tennessee scored to get within
Speaker 1: eight with a few minutes left, and you're thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: Tennessee's got three time outs here, Chargers might blow this
Speaker 1: third and seven. What most people would have said a
Speaker 1: give up play. Mike McCoy runs the ball with Melvin Gordon.
Speaker 1: He breaks a couple of tackles. Paris Cox has got
Speaker 1: to get chewed out by Dick lebo in the meeting
Speaker 1: rooms tomorrow on Monday for missing this tackle. Gordon catches
Speaker 1: the past the next couple of plays, runs down the sideline.
Speaker 1: I mean, he has been fantastic the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: He's the reason they're closing these games out. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Joey Boss in the mix to these two guys. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be great next year. Gordon, what neck Chargers
Speaker 1: get Keenean allenback, They're gonna be great next year. He
Speaker 1: I thought he had his best game of the year
Speaker 1: by far against Denver last week, and then this game
Speaker 1: two d what was it sixty? I mean, that's an
Speaker 1: outrageous number from scrimma people that um are maybe new
Speaker 1: to the show. Uh Chris Westling's desert consigliari. Uh spice Rack,
Speaker 1: who uh works a top of a resort in a
Speaker 1: pool zone. Uh he uh sold, he sold himself as
Speaker 1: a man that knew the draft set. Went all in
Speaker 1: on Melvin Gordon before the last year's draft, saying he
Speaker 1: was the next big thing to come into the league.
Speaker 1: And then, let's face it, Gordon laid an egg as
Speaker 1: a rookie. Maybe he wasn't right physically, but now a
Speaker 1: stud and what were you saying about the spicy who's
Speaker 1: obviously a character that you know a lot of different
Speaker 1: different opinions amongst our listenership. How did he handle uh
Speaker 1: this moment of glory today? Well, he was basically he
Speaker 1: was feeling his oats. He tweeted where's all the credit
Speaker 1: for my Melvin Gordon call? And welcomed all of the uh,
Speaker 1: all the praise, all the kudos, and then shot down
Speaker 1: anyone who had any criticism whatsoever in very uh furious fashion.
Speaker 1: Spice Racks Twitter was off the hook today. Spice Rack.
Speaker 1: If if Melvin Gordon goes over a thousand yards or
Speaker 1: scores twenty touchdowns. His suspension from the show is lifted
Speaker 1: right now barring injury. Uh, he's Gordon's gonna run for
Speaker 1: a thousand yards. It doesn't mean he'll be a you know,
Speaker 1: a show by show or a weekly contributor. He'll he'll
Speaker 1: come back on the show and we'll assess from there.
Speaker 1: But these Chargers and has a lot to do with
Speaker 1: Alvin Gordon. After this game, You've got the Dolphins, you're by,
Speaker 1: You've got the Texans, a terrible Buccaneers team, and you've
Speaker 1: got a manageable schedule from there. I everyone, every year
Speaker 1: you get one of these midseason teams that wins three
Speaker 1: or four five in a row, and there they are.
Speaker 1: The problem is the a f C wild Cards scenario.
Speaker 1: It's not just a division. The wild card picture is
Speaker 1: a cluster of teams stuck. They've got to have a
Speaker 1: massive runs. I mean, the two wild card teams right
Speaker 1: now are six and two, and there are a lot
Speaker 1: of things can change in the second half. But the
Speaker 1: Charges still have such a thin margin for are here, absolutely,
Speaker 1: but they've shown that they haven't play as they started
Speaker 1: playing better. We haven't seen them against kind of a
Speaker 1: mediocre team so it's nice to see them take care
Speaker 1: of business against a Tennessee team I thought would give
Speaker 1: them big trouble. Missing their two inside linebackers to Davis
Speaker 1: Brown and Denzel Perriman and Demrco Murray's help the fifty
Speaker 1: one yards, they did a good job shutting him down.
Speaker 1: It's two weeks in real. Corey Tumors played a good
Speaker 1: game as the stand in an inside lineback, and the
Speaker 1: secondary has been great. Casey Hayward another big interception. Flowers
Speaker 1: with the interception, Mariota had kind of hit maybe not
Speaker 1: even a season and nutshell, he looked incredible for a
Speaker 1: lot of this game. But he had three turnovers. Uh
Speaker 1: really all of them were his fault one mostly the
Speaker 1: world in turnovers return for touchdowns right. One One of
Speaker 1: them was that he looked like he tried to pitch
Speaker 1: it on a run that had no chance of going anywhere.
Speaker 1: He was just trying to do too much. He made
Speaker 1: some incredible positive plays in this game. But if they
Speaker 1: have a bright future, Yeah, about those Chargers? Do you
Speaker 1: like it? Do you think they're gonna make the playoffs? No?
Speaker 1: Probably not? Um all right, now let's move on. There's
Speaker 1: the forty Niners are on the schedule, so we got
Speaker 1: to talk about a game breeze, handing it off and
Speaker 1: look at the whole for Ingram up to the forty
Speaker 1: forty five fifty putting race, down the fire sideline, thirty down, touchdown, sage,
Speaker 1: welcome backgro that's Jim Henderson at w w L. Everyone
Speaker 1: loves to play the forty Niners On Sunday. It was
Speaker 1: the Saints Stern who scored early and often in route
Speaker 1: to win that has pulled New Orleans all the way
Speaker 1: back to five hundred after an O and three starred
Speaker 1: Greg I refuse to give any team too much credit
Speaker 1: for beating Chip Kelly's band of zombie gold diggers, but
Speaker 1: your boys, you deserve credit for keeping themselves in the
Speaker 1: picture in the big picture. Yeah, they shouldn't deserve much
Speaker 1: credit from this, but they did what they had to
Speaker 1: do and I liked uh themes continuing. Mike Thomas is
Speaker 1: their number one receiver. He made an incredible touchdown play,
Speaker 1: and Ingram and Tim high Tower are leading this new
Speaker 1: run heavy type of approach. It was a lot of
Speaker 1: high Tower early, but the two of them combined for
Speaker 1: two hundred and forty five yards on thirty about what
Speaker 1: they give up on an average bag, right, But it's
Speaker 1: nice to see the Saints just do that. Their offensive
Speaker 1: line is better, and uh, you know what's been a
Speaker 1: big key for them. They resigned Jarry Evans during the season,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of Seahawks didn't want them. It's kind
Speaker 1: of shored up their offensive line. They've they've given breeze protection,
Speaker 1: you know, a move that was laughed at when it
Speaker 1: happened when Evans signed with them. I you know, I
Speaker 1: think that we've been I've been especially critical of Sean
Speaker 1: Payton the Saints for you know, three or four weeks ago,
Speaker 1: you cook a cutter. The same team we've seen a
Speaker 1: hundred times. This is a spicy, playoff level offense. If
Speaker 1: they can get any sort of semblance on defense or
Speaker 1: just keep scoring thirty five or forty points, you never
Speaker 1: know what could happen in the trashy NFC. They could
Speaker 1: sneak into January. For a second, I try to convince myself,
Speaker 1: you know, the defense is showing some things. Kenny Vicaro
Speaker 1: is playing well. Colin Kaepernick pass is where I was
Speaker 1: going though, This is where I was going. Camera Jordan's
Speaker 1: playing well, you know, it's Delvin bros. Back. This is that.
Speaker 1: And then you look and the forty niners have like
Speaker 1: five hundred yards against us, just forget it. Anything to
Speaker 1: like from They got Shell and Rankin's back, probably not
Speaker 1: a lot to see, but little Ranco talk well, I
Speaker 1: mean he's good. That was a huge draft pick for
Speaker 1: them and that sabotage them early. This is a couple
Speaker 1: of road wins for them. They beat San Diego. They
Speaker 1: also really outplayed the Giants. You know, it hasn't really
Speaker 1: been the crazy road home split that that's something they
Speaker 1: can be positive this year. This isn't all his fault,
Speaker 1: far from it, because they forty honors have done everything
Speaker 1: in their power to take what had a chance to
Speaker 1: be a team that'll be good for years and turn
Speaker 1: them into what they are now, which is a laughing stock.
Speaker 1: And that responsibility goes up and down. Uh But remember
Speaker 1: when Chip Kelly was a thing, well, and he was
Speaker 1: a thing because if you come into the NFL was
Speaker 1: something new and that's something that's proven to work on
Speaker 1: some level, and it you get you get catch everyone
Speaker 1: off guard as he did. I'll never forget that opening
Speaker 1: primetime game against the Redskins in the first half. It does.
Speaker 1: It feels like decades ago, and there was there were
Speaker 1: a couple of fascinating articles written, you know, but for
Speaker 1: the season, how that offense has been figured out, his
Speaker 1: scheme has been figured out. And I'm sorry week to week,
Speaker 1: but this starts at the top. You know, we saw
Speaker 1: these coaches coming in and out and in and out
Speaker 1: before Jim Harbaugh ever showed up. And now we've seen it.
Speaker 1: Tom Seula is out after one year. Who knows how
Speaker 1: long Kelly's there. That that starts at the top. That's
Speaker 1: an organizational problem that goes back a long way. He's
Speaker 1: in a college. He's at a college next year. That's
Speaker 1: my prediction. Be nice to have tramp Balky's job security.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I continues after this season. Let's move on,
Speaker 1: which takes us to Sunday Night. Sunday Night, car under
Speaker 1: center turns, gives to Latavius Murray soaring for the goal
Speaker 1: one and he's in for the touchdown. Lattavius Murray going
Speaker 1: airborne over the pile, in for his third rushing touchdown
Speaker 1: of the night, and the Raiders may have just put
Speaker 1: this one away. Just there was Latavius Murray three touchdowns
Speaker 1: on the day for teen yards on the ground. Uh.
Speaker 1: He was the offense on Sunday Night for the Oakland
Speaker 1: Raiders and it was more than enough a thirty to
Speaker 1: twenty victory for the Raiders over the Broncos. And frankly,
Speaker 1: the final score does not quite indicate how much Oakland
Speaker 1: dominated this football game and the Raiders now seven and
Speaker 1: two folks all alone atop the a f C West
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Silvan Blacker, for real, I agree with you.
Speaker 1: I see what you're trying to do. What gonna get
Speaker 1: me to talk? Then you're gonna drop your little music clip.
Speaker 1: Then it happened tonight. Someone else can talk. Let's try, said,
Speaker 1: I mean, she still kind of got you though. Anybody
Speaker 1: else want to talk about the game? Mark is texting
Speaker 1: like disinterested, looking at the box, scool, upset at his dad.
Speaker 1: Does anyone else want to analyze the segment more incorrectly? Uh?
Speaker 1: Speak them analyzing incorrectly. I said this would be a
Speaker 1: battle between Raiders offensive line and Broncos defensive front seven,
Speaker 1: and I gave the edge to the Broncos. That could
Speaker 1: not have been more wrong. The Raiders offensive line dominated.
Speaker 1: They only had two sacks on David Carr and three
Speaker 1: quarterback hits and moreover two ur and twenty yards rushing
Speaker 1: in three touchdowns for Latavius Murray and the rookie duo
Speaker 1: of Jalen Richard and DeAndre Washington. What a rushing attack
Speaker 1: for the Raiders. I love Richard and we talked about
Speaker 1: it going into this game that they're a top five
Speaker 1: or six rushing team right now in terms of yards
Speaker 1: per carry. Murray not a fun runner to watch it
Speaker 1: when he's in the open field, but he's the key guy.
Speaker 1: He is the lead guy a hundred and fourteen yards.
Speaker 1: He runs hard, and this team has an identity. And
Speaker 1: the Broncos have a problem. You know, their run defense
Speaker 1: has been bad all year. It doesn't mean they're a
Speaker 1: bad defense, but they're not the defense they were a
Speaker 1: year ago. If they have a problem week after week,
Speaker 1: that's fair. Dan shaking his head some island. I don't
Speaker 1: know why. No, I mean, listen, it goes. It goes
Speaker 1: for their offense too. I don't think you're giving the
Speaker 1: Raiders enough credit though. I just I just gave him
Speaker 1: a lot of credit. And now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Denver went from you know, two weeks ago their defense
Speaker 1: is just as good as anyone, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: now their defense is a bit of a problem compared
Speaker 1: to look at the Raiders, who are now a week
Speaker 1: after Derek karthrows for five yards and four touchdowns. He
Speaker 1: does nothing today for the most parties, basically in the
Speaker 1: Gabbard zone, doesn't throw a touchdown best. But now you
Speaker 1: have the running game dropping a the Raiders made it
Speaker 1: a problem for Denver. The Raiders turned Denver's run defense
Speaker 1: into a big problem tonight. And it's another example. It's
Speaker 1: the same thing we see from Dallas week after week.
Speaker 1: When you have a dominant offensive line and they're the
Speaker 1: a f c S best offensive line right now, you
Speaker 1: can win in multiple ways on offense, and the Raiders
Speaker 1: are fully for real on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1: They were their defense was such an issue they didn't
Speaker 1: let Denver into this game right there. The defense is
Speaker 1: what's changed the most during the season. And the fact
Speaker 1: that and again this is the problem for Denver. It's
Speaker 1: no discrediting towards the Raiders. The Raiders defense has come
Speaker 1: on for the most part after the first few weeks.
Speaker 1: They've had some slip up. Cleo mac has been on fire.
Speaker 1: Karl Joseph, the rookie at safety, has been a major upgrade,
Speaker 1: and I think those are the two biggest factors. And
Speaker 1: Bruce Bruce servants been about what they expected. He had
Speaker 1: a good night. Mac certainly had had a good end
Speaker 1: to the night with the Force fumble, and the secondary
Speaker 1: has been better. John Smith wasn't even in this game,
Speaker 1: didn't matter. And you know Trevor Simmey in his box score,
Speaker 1: it looks like he had a decent game. He got
Speaker 1: a bunch of garbage yardage on a Capri bib sixty
Speaker 1: nine yard catching run touchdown late in the game. Here's
Speaker 1: the thing with Denver and if their defense is not
Speaker 1: going to be as good as next year, they need
Speaker 1: more than just a guy that to take care of
Speaker 1: the ball facilitator type of quarterback. And I have the
Speaker 1: last several weeks, a couple of weeks especially, I don't
Speaker 1: see Simeon is good enough to take this team over
Speaker 1: the top of the defense isn't gonna be playing well,
Speaker 1: and you want to be a defensive led team that
Speaker 1: destroys quarterbacks and grinds out offense by running the ball
Speaker 1: thirty three yards rushing DeVante Booker two point two yards
Speaker 1: per rush as long as rush is five yards. They
Speaker 1: miss c J. Anderson and the idea that DeVante Booker
Speaker 1: was gonna be better than c J. Anderson. I never
Speaker 1: believe that. Well, you needed both at least, I like
Speaker 1: the idea of of DeVante Booker someone they brought in
Speaker 1: as an upgrade over you know, Hillman, someone else you
Speaker 1: could add to your ground game. But him alone is
Speaker 1: a lead back. That's not happening. And he really had
Speaker 1: the one good game Simeon since he came back. But really, now,
Speaker 1: if you look at his last four or five appearances,
Speaker 1: he has one good appearance. I don't think he's the problem.
Speaker 1: I just don't think he can carry a bad running
Speaker 1: game and a bad offensive line. Now, too many things
Speaker 1: are going wrong for them to have Simeon as your quarterback.
Speaker 1: It's not a good offensive line pass protecting or run bocking.
Speaker 1: He's not going to be able to overcome that. He's
Speaker 1: eight games into his career. We shouldn't expect him to be.
Speaker 1: How about having the black hole on Prime Time Love
Speaker 1: and Life. I mean, they've been waiting a long time
Speaker 1: for a seven and two Raiders team to put a
Speaker 1: beat down on the Broncos in prime time. How about
Speaker 1: question of quick question for Greg. You have to all
Speaker 1: your earthly possessions. Don't even know what you own or
Speaker 1: how much you're worth, not all of it put up
Speaker 1: on the market. You have to answer this question who
Speaker 1: starts more games this season? Paxton Lynch or Jared Goff?
Speaker 1: Jared Goff, for sure, I would put my likety dollars
Speaker 1: worth of entire possessions up on In fact, I need
Speaker 1: some I need. And what about the four point one
Speaker 1: million that you're holding on too? I would definitely I
Speaker 1: would keep my massive fortune out of this. It's just
Speaker 1: too I mean, I need some help right now, and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm always willing to roll the dice. You guys
Speaker 1: know me. I I will put my everything I have
Speaker 1: on the line if anyone wants to hint I need it.
Speaker 1: That's what got you stuck working to day job, those
Speaker 1: initial issues that you had with that, Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: that was Greg Rose withhal one thousandth vailed gambling reference
Speaker 1: on the Around the NFL podcast. Congratulations, Greg, that's true.
Speaker 1: I had a problem. You got over it. Hints of
Speaker 1: it reoccurring, hints of it reoccurring. Uh yeah, it's good
Speaker 1: to see that. You think he got those white shoes.
Speaker 1: The Raiders are back in prime time. We're gonna see
Speaker 1: more of the Raiders because next Monday night they are
Speaker 1: and they deserve and they should be flexed into games
Speaker 1: in December. The Raiders are for real. The Raiders are
Speaker 1: right now looking like the second best team in the
Speaker 1: a f C two division leaders facing off next Monday
Speaker 1: night in Mexico City, Houston, Oakland, And I bet the
Speaker 1: Raiders fans are thinking if I was like that, I'd
Speaker 1: be thinking, why is this the year that we have
Speaker 1: to lose a home game to Mexico, Because that's a
Speaker 1: different that's a disadvantage about Like when Trump loses on
Speaker 1: Tuesday and he's like, you know, dealing with the aftermath
Speaker 1: of his ego taking a massive shot, and then he
Speaker 1: sits down on his leather couch the the late the
Speaker 1: Monday night after and he just wants to get away
Speaker 1: from it all. And he sees the NFL playing in Mexico.
Speaker 1: That's gotta it's gonna stick in his crawl a little bit.
Speaker 1: I think he's I hope I don't really listen to
Speaker 1: that portion of the podcast in a few days time
Speaker 1: as an innocent time before I started looking for freelance
Speaker 1: writing jobs so I can live in Japan. Right, Dan
Speaker 1: quickly whisked away to a prison camp. All right, Um,
Speaker 1: that is the Sunday slate. On that note of NFL action.
Speaker 1: The next time you hear from us, it will be
Speaker 1: uh Tuesday, where we will break down the Monday night
Speaker 1: football game between the Seattle Seahawks and Buffalo Bills. Yes,
Speaker 1: and then uh, you know, we'll have some fun. That's
Speaker 1: what we do. We try to have fun around here. Hey,
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Speaker 1: his phone. I'm completely detached. All right, that's it. Let's
Speaker 1: get out of here. Um yes, Stan Hansas signing off
Speaker 1: four Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Boss, and last Sid
Speaker 1: behind the Glass till Tuesday. It's an important Tuesday. This
Speaker 1: is my Trump. What is the what's like a Trump line?
Speaker 1: He's like it's terrible. He's like it's very, very bad.