Speaker 1: Ryan on the drills and that's called for he touchdown trial.
Speaker 1: We'll run into the end zone and I'm checking and
Speaker 1: boiling and full of fan was Jones and good luck
Speaker 1: trying to stop that. Ryan fires and that is calling
Speaker 1: for a touchdown by ohta's hooper Matt Ryan. Touchdown passed
Speaker 1: of the night, Matt Ryan making it look easy on
Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football forty three to eight. Atlanta Falcons take
Speaker 1: care of business in the NFC South And to me,
Speaker 1: just another week where Matt Ryan put another little, a
Speaker 1: little part of his m VP candidacy on display for
Speaker 1: everyone to watch. He was on fire today. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: made it look easy. They actually made it look easier
Speaker 1: than the final score would suggest. They blew some opportunities
Speaker 1: in the first off and including my whipping boy, Josh Perkins,
Speaker 1: a tight end for the Falcons who dropped an easy touchdown.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a perfect throw, but tight ends should make
Speaker 1: that play. You gotta focus on that. This is a
Speaker 1: perfect game for them, just about they, because this could
Speaker 1: have been easily just like that September game from two
Speaker 1: years ago when they scored fifty six points. They could
Speaker 1: have they could have flirted with sixty in this game.
Speaker 1: By the way, that's that's Chris Westley. The Mailman. Didn't
Speaker 1: even introduce him. Be so famous, he doesn't really need
Speaker 1: an introduction. But this is our Week nine preview show,
Speaker 1: of course, and we're gonna get to Dan Hansis Mark
Speaker 1: Sessler uh in just a few minutes to go through
Speaker 1: all the Week nine games. But but this team, the Falcons,
Speaker 1: they pick up twenty yards to me, easier than any
Speaker 1: team I've seen in a while. It's just like twenty
Speaker 1: yard chunks, twenty yar. He makes it look so simple,
Speaker 1: at the anticipation, the accuracy. He's just feeling it right now.
Speaker 1: And you pointed out to me an NFL research note,
Speaker 1: they were averaging more yards per play right now, the Falcons,
Speaker 1: than any team since with the Falcons two thousand rams
Speaker 1: the greatest show, I mean right the two thousand one Raigns.
Speaker 1: That's insane. Two thousand rams, greatest show on turf. That's
Speaker 1: more than the two thousand seven Patriots, more than the
Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen Broncos. This this is an explosive, dynamic offense.
Speaker 1: And they didn't even have Tevin Coleman, who had been
Speaker 1: the biggest mismatch of any running back in the league
Speaker 1: in the passing game this year. But they did have
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper, who I think it might need to stay
Speaker 1: as the starter when Jacob Tammy comes back, or either way,
Speaker 1: they have two good tight end options there. They have
Speaker 1: Taylor Gabriel who's just so fast when they use him.
Speaker 1: You know, he's too small to touch the ball ten
Speaker 1: times a game, but he's a weapon. Well, he's one
Speaker 1: of the waiver pickups of the year. And as to
Speaker 1: the credit of Kyle Shanahan and Matt Ryan that they
Speaker 1: used so many different guys and played to their strengths
Speaker 1: in a limited rule. That trio of tight ends is
Speaker 1: on pace for a thousand yards and twelve touchdowns. It's
Speaker 1: like a Tony Gonzalez season. And Julio Jones explained after
Speaker 1: the game kind of how hard this offense is to cover.
Speaker 1: He basically said, they're double covering me. They're sending all
Speaker 1: sorts of coverage at him throughout the first half, and
Speaker 1: the Falcons are going up and down the field. So
Speaker 1: the first drive of the second half, the Bucks made
Speaker 1: a little bit of an adjustment. They tried to do
Speaker 1: some other things, get creative. Basically, he had hard Graves
Speaker 1: in single coverage, so he just catches three or four
Speaker 1: passes right on. Hard Graves goes right down the field,
Speaker 1: looked like an adult playing against the kid on the touchdown,
Speaker 1: and he ends up with with a relatively quiet eight
Speaker 1: for one eleven. That's just what he does, and he'll
Speaker 1: end up with about thirty fewer receptions this year and
Speaker 1: almost the same amount of yards because he's a more
Speaker 1: efficient player and he's the engine that makes the best
Speaker 1: offense in the NFL. Go six and three now for
Speaker 1: the Falcons. I don't think this team is gonna fade.
Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be at NFC South Race.
Speaker 1: I don't think the Falcons let the Saints or Panthers
Speaker 1: get back into it. Forget the Bucks. I know they're
Speaker 1: only three and five, but they're one of the worst
Speaker 1: teams in the league. And I think you what you
Speaker 1: really saw in this game. One of the biggest differences
Speaker 1: was the pass rush. That the Falcons have a pass
Speaker 1: rush and the Bucks absolutely do not. Matt Ryan felt
Speaker 1: no pressure, but Adrian Claiborne Vic Beasley both playing pretty well. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I made a joking comment that Adrian Claiborne is a
Speaker 1: defensive player of your candidate. He's not that, and he
Speaker 1: might not make the Pro Bowl, but this is easily
Speaker 1: his best season, and he's been He's been getting in
Speaker 1: quarterbacks faces for a month now. We've we've said it here,
Speaker 1: and I think Collinsworth had a good point that you
Speaker 1: could see this defense playing a lot better by the
Speaker 1: end of the season. They were. They're not a good
Speaker 1: defense now, but you can see the parts that they have.
Speaker 1: They have some talent that I think they could come
Speaker 1: together and play. You could see maybe week fifteen playoffs,
Speaker 1: you can see them putting together four or five good
Speaker 1: weeks where they're a slightly above average defense, and that's
Speaker 1: enough for this team to maybe go to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: There's a weird dichotomy I play with them because they
Speaker 1: already have more sacks than all of last season, but
Speaker 1: they have also given up more UH passing touchdowns than
Speaker 1: all of last season. And Desmond Truffont, by far their
Speaker 1: best cornerback, left this game with a shoulder injury and
Speaker 1: never returned well quickly. We don't want to spend too
Speaker 1: much time in this game. Jamis Winston left with a
Speaker 1: knee injury late. It sounded like after the game, he
Speaker 1: was fine, That's what he told reporters, and he was
Speaker 1: walking around talking to everyone. This to me was the
Speaker 1: typical Jamis Winston performance of the year. I think if
Speaker 1: you watch the game, you saw the talent. You saw
Speaker 1: the old man, crafty, kind of crazy place. You saw
Speaker 1: him being a little reckless with his body and taking
Speaker 1: a huge hit at the goal line, and you saw
Speaker 1: just you know that he's not good enough to carry
Speaker 1: a lousy franchise. He's good, but you know it's just
Speaker 1: not good enough. He also saw Mike Evans, whom even
Speaker 1: Desmond Trufont couldn't cover. Once he left, the Falcons cornerbacks
Speaker 1: had no chance. Mike Evans is having a Pro Bowl year,
Speaker 1: borderline all pro. The one handed catch by Evans on
Speaker 1: the sideline before he took a shot was maybe the
Speaker 1: catch of the year. One handed catch, and then he
Speaker 1: just got absolutely lasted right under the chin. I mean,
Speaker 1: Winston took one under the chin and on his back
Speaker 1: on a play that he switched to his left hand.
Speaker 1: I think there, I think they are who we thought
Speaker 1: they were, Winston and Evans. It's just a bad team.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they don't surround them with good players. Back
Speaker 1: to the Falcons before we sign off. I think this
Speaker 1: team is here to stay. They're a legitimate Super Bowl
Speaker 1: contender and they're one of the top five teams to
Speaker 1: watch as far as excitement, and they they close out
Speaker 1: the season after the bye week with four of six
Speaker 1: home games. Too. You didn't say it, so I'll say
Speaker 1: I'm out of my chair getting excited. If that's so
Speaker 1: fired up about the Falcons. Uh. Fun team. Even though
Speaker 1: it wasn't that fun a game, they provided some entertainment.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we will do the same. Let's go to Dan
Speaker 1: and preview the Week nine games the Around the NFL
Speaker 1: Podcast as majority ownership in the Portland River Halls. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas and I am joined by
Speaker 1: a room Phil with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and
Speaker 1: Gregg Rose. It all what's up boys? Hey, Dan Um
Speaker 1: came up with a great new term before the show today.
Speaker 1: We all as it was kind of like a little
Speaker 1: group think when you really get like banged in a
Speaker 1: big spot. You just got WestEd, I mean specifically banged
Speaker 1: by you know, verbally by west an individual. Chris Wesley. Oh,
Speaker 1: you just got WestEd. But I think it could apply
Speaker 1: even if West isn't involved. If someone just stops you
Speaker 1: cold in a big spot, you got WestEd. Well, somebody
Speaker 1: that brought back the Dean screen. I could tell you
Speaker 1: it's not easy to bring things back or creators to
Speaker 1: be a creator. But I think this one has the legs.
Speaker 1: Where's the derivation of this? What do you mean how
Speaker 1: did it start? I don't know. We were just chatting,
Speaker 1: but I think it needs a sort of primary powder
Speaker 1: Keg moment where almost everyone involved, the whole nation would
Speaker 1: say this thing involved West and then it becomes a
Speaker 1: verb and chi Super Bowl one, Patriots up or down?
Speaker 1: You know, they're driving down the field. West runs out
Speaker 1: on the field completely nude, punches Tom Brady in the face,
Speaker 1: knocks him out of the game. Atriots lose because Jake
Speaker 1: Brisket fails and what happens? What's the the only way
Speaker 1: you can look at things afterwards? You just got worst.
Speaker 1: It's a scenario. I love it, and I think Dan,
Speaker 1: you would need to, you know, you need to tweet
Speaker 1: that out and then it just gets retweeted by We're
Speaker 1: only halfway there. Once the knockout happened. Yeah, you're definitely
Speaker 1: right about that. On the end around. Yeah, that's an
Speaker 1: end around post for sure. Uh. This is the Thursday edition,
Speaker 1: late Thursday edition of the Around the NFL podcast sponsored
Speaker 1: by Mr Flames Economic class in the in the Hague,
Speaker 1: the nether It's still there, still there, but maybe he
Speaker 1: moved his h his classroom of gentle giants, but he
Speaker 1: has not um. Congratulations to the Chicago Cubs who won
Speaker 1: the World Series in seven games. Yes, yes, the Cubs
Speaker 1: who came back from a three one deficit and uh
Speaker 1: forced the game seven and then won that game seven. Fear,
Speaker 1: why do we need that sound effects to translate what's
Speaker 1: happening here? For once? I want a shadowy league figure
Speaker 1: to tell us we can't use some sound drops. Memories
Speaker 1: you don't remember? I remember? Oh sorry, guys, best best
Speaker 1: game seven you've ever seen. It's a great one. I
Speaker 1: would put it right up there, probably given them all
Speaker 1: the history involved for baseball specifically, I would say yes,
Speaker 1: I would, And I feel better. I feel bad for
Speaker 1: all those Indians fans, including Tom Blair who works downstairs.
Speaker 1: There's a great job for us. Came to work with
Speaker 1: a stiff stiff upper lift. But him and millions of
Speaker 1: other Indians fans did that. Millions of fans, Mark, you
Speaker 1: tell us you're the Cleveland resident they've got. Well, I
Speaker 1: I've sensed all along that I've not been allowed to
Speaker 1: participate in this, uh, this baseball aspect because it's like
Speaker 1: Mark doesn't like baseball. So even though this lifelong Cleveland
Speaker 1: fan is sitting three feet from Tom Blair, all all
Speaker 1: comments will be pointed specifically at Tom Blair about your
Speaker 1: saying that I. I will say this, I roote hardcore
Speaker 1: for the city of Cleveland. There I have no other
Speaker 1: loyalty than the Cleveland Browns. And I've watched that city.
Speaker 1: I watched craiggy Low against Jordan's, I watched both Indian
Speaker 1: series that they lost in the in the nineties. I
Speaker 1: rooted hard for them because of the city. That said,
Speaker 1: it's an impossible fix to go up against the Cubs
Speaker 1: and not realize that you are going not the villain rule.
Speaker 1: It did play out a little bit on Twitter, and
Speaker 1: I watched part of this at a restaurant in l
Speaker 1: A and it was unbelievable. L A. Well, l A
Speaker 1: is just absolutely a bandwagon jumping town. In one, but
Speaker 1: the whole place was like Cubs. But I get it.
Speaker 1: Representative of the of the country, I think so too.
Speaker 1: I get it. It It was it was not an easy
Speaker 1: pr angle for for the Indians. And congratulations to Cubs fans.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of loyal Cubs fans in our
Speaker 1: office time, at least today. I honestly thought that you
Speaker 1: were just brown specific and remember at all for the Calves,
Speaker 1: but it was I mean I was with you during
Speaker 1: that actually like invested in it, and well, Audiens, because
Speaker 1: you usually have kind of I may not have telecast
Speaker 1: my feelings strong enough, you know at the multiple Calves
Speaker 1: games who went to because it meant a lot for
Speaker 1: that city to get the monkey off it's back, And
Speaker 1: now they're treated as if they are you know, sports
Speaker 1: version of the New England Patriots, where too much success
Speaker 1: for the city of Cleveland, go back, go be put
Speaker 1: back in your place. Now, to those who who say
Speaker 1: that you don't know baseball, there's twitter evidence that your
Speaker 1: sources discovered Chris Bryant when he was still in the
Speaker 1: minor leagues, and you were all over that. You reported
Speaker 1: that how they were going to handle his promotion, how
Speaker 1: you is gonna do once he got to the Cubs.
Speaker 1: I feel like Mark put his stamp on the Chris
Speaker 1: Bryant story that all sounds totally made up. No, it's
Speaker 1: out there. Well actually tweeted I send this to you
Speaker 1: last night. In the text, Dan has just gone a
Speaker 1: complete blackout of anything. Mark sessla related to this was
Speaker 1: this was a a a fortune telling tweet from two
Speaker 1: thousand and fourteen about christ Per I can't I can't
Speaker 1: let society think that Mark's in on baseball. I can't
Speaker 1: allow it. As I know it's it's what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: it's a campaign of yours to shut me out of
Speaker 1: this experience. And I've not said anything, but I have
Speaker 1: certainly noticed it. And it is a very odd stance
Speaker 1: for you to be taking, because it's a sport that
Speaker 1: you want people to embrace, and yet you're shutting close
Speaker 1: friends out of the experience. It feels slightly possessive and
Speaker 1: slightly bizarre. I mean, that's fair criticism, but is it.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna be in, I want you all the
Speaker 1: way in. Well I won't. I won't do that, all right.
Speaker 1: Today's edition of the You just heard at the top
Speaker 1: of the show. Uh, the recap from the scientists of
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons Tampa Bay Buccaneers game, which is um
Speaker 1: now in the books. But we still have a bunch
Speaker 1: of games to talk to, ten talk about, ten games
Speaker 1: to talk about, including uh, Monday Night affair. So um,
Speaker 1: so much to get to Greg, so much big show,
Speaker 1: so much football it again too, So why don't we
Speaker 1: start with the one pm games? In the first game
Speaker 1: we'll talk about here the Detroit Lions traveling to Minnesota
Speaker 1: to face the Vikings. Uh. And of course we have
Speaker 1: some news to get to off the top involving the
Speaker 1: Vikings and their offensive coordinator or Turner. Oh, you know,
Speaker 1: we all decided that this was a group thing. I
Speaker 1: don't know what that Wait, what was that? I didn't
Speaker 1: hear it? Of hell, that's come on, grow up? What's
Speaker 1: that you're saying? Who should grow up? Sydney? She made that?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think Sydney. You're a truthful person
Speaker 1: who provided the verbalization for the last part of the
Speaker 1: hell part of that? Who I want you to tell
Speaker 1: the truth? Listen, I tell the truth. I don't actually
Speaker 1: know his name, yea, she doesn't know. Let's move on,
Speaker 1: Nor of Turner, who knows who did it, nor of
Speaker 1: Turner has resigned his offensive coordinator of the Vikings, a
Speaker 1: sudden resignation, one that no one saw coming. And Greg,
Speaker 1: what what do you make What do you make of this?
Speaker 1: What are you hearing read between the tea leaves for
Speaker 1: us with this resignation, I'm not hearing anything past insider.
Speaker 1: I'm it sounded like North Turner didn't like the direction
Speaker 1: he was getting from his boss, and he respects Mike Zimmer,
Speaker 1: but he didn't want to continue to coach his offense
Speaker 1: with Zimmer apparently having some ideas, having some restrictions, wanted
Speaker 1: him to do at things a certain way. He just
Speaker 1: couldn't agree. Get out. There's another element to this too,
Speaker 1: and that this trade for Sam Bradford, and listen, I
Speaker 1: have something to talk to you about on the team
Speaker 1: of a t L next week. We'll get to it then.
Speaker 1: But there is something to be said that the deal
Speaker 1: was largely pushed for by Pat Shermer, who was at
Speaker 1: the time the quarterbacks coach and now is the play caller,
Speaker 1: and that in that I'm just saying that Shermer and Bradford,
Speaker 1: their careers have been linked for many years, and I
Speaker 1: wonder if Turner felt either that he was not. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a power issue, but there was
Speaker 1: a lot going on here besides Norv Turner just running
Speaker 1: the offense without any sort of checks and balance. There
Speaker 1: is a report on NFL netwhere people thought going into
Speaker 1: the year this was gonna be North Turner's last season
Speaker 1: in Minnesota for some of these philosophical differences. They brought
Speaker 1: in Shermer and Tony Sperrano, two former head coaches, into
Speaker 1: the staff this year, so there was something bubbling up
Speaker 1: even before. But if it was, if it were truly toxic,
Speaker 1: I mean Scott Turner, who were means the quarterbacks coaches
Speaker 1: still on the team. So it tells you that. And
Speaker 1: I do believe that there is respect between Zimmer and
Speaker 1: Norv Turner. It's not like a burned down the house
Speaker 1: type thing. I think you wanted out. Well, here's Vikings
Speaker 1: that played seven games. Uh, they have eleven touchdowns on offense,
Speaker 1: so they gotta get better. We'll see if they can
Speaker 1: against the Detroit Lions, who um aren't world beaters on
Speaker 1: defense and the and the best news for the Vikings
Speaker 1: after two straight losses, UM number one, there's still five
Speaker 1: and two, which is very good position to be in.
Speaker 1: But number two West Uh. They they their home field
Speaker 1: advantage has been excellent so far. They feel like they're
Speaker 1: in a good spot here. It's not a small factor.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people who have followed football
Speaker 1: for years believe that offensive line play, in particular struggles
Speaker 1: on the road versus at home because you can hear
Speaker 1: the snap count, you can brace for the ad dreshers
Speaker 1: coming at you, and I think this is a welcome
Speaker 1: trip home for that Vikings offensive line that has really,
Speaker 1: you know, given up so much, so much pressure on
Speaker 1: the road the last two weeks. I mean two sacks
Speaker 1: or eleven sacks for Bradford over the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: You know, they signed our Monty Bryant and he actually
Speaker 1: been playing pretty well for the Lions, and he was
Speaker 1: part of their pastors. He's out suspended Carrie Hiders. He's
Speaker 1: gotten pressure as well. But it's not it's not the Eagles,
Speaker 1: and it's not that it's it's not the worst. It's
Speaker 1: arguing the worst defense in football. I mean, I would
Speaker 1: put the Browns lower, but the Lions have been in
Speaker 1: the mix for the least effective. So if ever you
Speaker 1: were going to have a game uh to protect him, well,
Speaker 1: this would be it. Because your boy Sydney, our producer Ziggyanza.
Speaker 1: I mean, you put some sandwiches on Ziggy Onza getting
Speaker 1: a lot of sacks and uh, that's not happening. He
Speaker 1: might have less sacks than you o sandwiches. By the
Speaker 1: end of the season. He is healthy again, apparently he's playing.
Speaker 1: Does this team need to start lining up an extra
Speaker 1: tackle and going multiple two or three tight end sets
Speaker 1: to even keep this offensive load? Yes, I think you
Speaker 1: need to put a tight end out there. You need
Speaker 1: to chip block, you definitely need help for the tackle.
Speaker 1: I mean that this is obviously not a must win
Speaker 1: team game for a five and two team, but they
Speaker 1: gotta win this game. I think it is, to be honest,
Speaker 1: stopped the snowball here because there's a lot of bad
Speaker 1: vibes around the team right now, and you're in a
Speaker 1: good spot. The Lions are nice, frisky team, but they're
Speaker 1: not a great team. You gotta win this ball game.
Speaker 1: You've got the red Skinness Cardinals, Lions and Cowboys coming
Speaker 1: up next for Minnesota. Three weeks ago, we would have
Speaker 1: thought you can mow go three and one down that
Speaker 1: stretch with the team we were seeing, it's hard to
Speaker 1: pick what games they're gonna win with the wave and
Speaker 1: that they've been playing. Uh, let's move on, gentlemen, and
Speaker 1: talk about the Philadelphia Eagles and New York Giants and
Speaker 1: NFC East showdown here between two four and three teams.
Speaker 1: I think there was a general feeling that, uh, the
Speaker 1: NFC East was gonna go right down to the wire.
Speaker 1: And perhaps it's still may but right now it kind
Speaker 1: of seems this thing stamp that the Cowboys are little
Speaker 1: to a lot better than the other three teams and
Speaker 1: everyone else is close packed, closely packed together. West. Do
Speaker 1: you see that? See it that way with the Eagles
Speaker 1: and Giants. Yeah, I think they are two similar teams
Speaker 1: and and I know the Eagles roared out to a
Speaker 1: strong start, but over the last four weeks they've been
Speaker 1: outscored by their opponents, and in the last two weeks,
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is the only quarterback in the NFL not
Speaker 1: to complete a pass of fifteen or more air yards,
Speaker 1: which is the biggest problem with the Eagles offense right now.
Speaker 1: They have no downfield element. The receivers aren't very good
Speaker 1: and I know we've getting credit to the Eagles because
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz with the same players Chip Kelly had is
Speaker 1: basically getting it done and turning out a great defense.
Speaker 1: But the offense is not. And the only team with
Speaker 1: fewer big plays this year is the forty Niners. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's the chip Imbrint that he
Speaker 1: left these players in Philadelphia that can't make plays. It's
Speaker 1: funny because the Niners also having a massive issue at
Speaker 1: wide receiver, and you cannot get through an NFL season
Speaker 1: with a talent poor pass catching crew, and they if
Speaker 1: they massed to some degree early on. Jorge Matthews played
Speaker 1: very well in the early part of the year. The
Speaker 1: game plan against the Cowboys was very clear, we are
Speaker 1: not going to test the field, and the Giants secondary
Speaker 1: makes that tough. I think that I think Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: played well against Dallas. I mean, he executed what they
Speaker 1: wanted him to do. For the most part. They had
Speaker 1: four or five drops Aglare and Dorio Green Beckham. It's
Speaker 1: a it's a woeful starting combination. They had to cut
Speaker 1: Josh Huff because of his arrest this week. He wasn't
Speaker 1: a huge factor, although he'd been helping on special teams
Speaker 1: quite a bit, and they have to go against the
Speaker 1: Giant secondary, which is one of the best in the league.
Speaker 1: You're trying to find some open guys with al Golar,
Speaker 1: Dorio Green, Beckham and zach Ertz. By the way, where
Speaker 1: zach Ertz the same. I think he's said about seven
Speaker 1: or eight catches the last you know, six weeks or
Speaker 1: something like that, going up against Rogers, Cromarty and land
Speaker 1: In Collins, who's fantastic, and Generes Jenkins like good night,
Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a ten to six game. Well,
Speaker 1: on top of it, you've got a running game where
Speaker 1: the coach had to come out and clarify for Beat
Speaker 1: writers that Ryan Matthews is still the lead guy this
Speaker 1: week coming off a game where he had eight snaps.
Speaker 1: He's had three or four games over the last month
Speaker 1: where he's had been around eight or eleven snaps, and
Speaker 1: Darren Sprowls is dominating playing time. Running game is not
Speaker 1: a problem for them. They they've been running the ball
Speaker 1: pretty well. Giants haven't had over forty five yards rushing
Speaker 1: in three weeks as a team. That's hard to do
Speaker 1: as a team. They haven't topped forty five yards. What
Speaker 1: about your boy, though, Odell Beckham from week nine to
Speaker 1: the end of the year over his career, there's no
Speaker 1: better receiver in the league from week nine on. It
Speaker 1: is his time. But you need the quarterback in the
Speaker 1: play caller to get you the ball and how's his hip?
Speaker 1: Is that a real issue to track going forward? Hey,
Speaker 1: I know this, uh this game is evenly match ten six.
Speaker 1: I like the sound of that. Greg not bad, But
Speaker 1: I don't like this matchup at all for the Eagles.
Speaker 1: I think they will rule the day they let that
Speaker 1: uh Dallas game get away from him. I think it
Speaker 1: could change the complexion of their entire season. And I
Speaker 1: don't like them going on the road here where their
Speaker 1: offense isn't playing that well and they're not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to challenge downfield. And I think, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I think the Giants are eventually gonna start playing
Speaker 1: better on offense. And I see it happening here. And
Speaker 1: I'm so confident, in fact, Chris Westling, so confident at
Speaker 1: the metal ends. That's what you'll find my lock. You're
Speaker 1: gonna lock it up of the week. Lock it up, baby,
Speaker 1: seal it up, throw away the key. Well it's not
Speaker 1: a key, it's one of those turn things. Throw away
Speaker 1: the combination. Don't need to get in there, it's already
Speaker 1: locked up and really selling it. I mean you sounded
Speaker 1: stunningly like Shaggy from Scooby Doo. That was a very
Speaker 1: good seventies ref. I knew it. I got it. Eagles
Speaker 1: are done for the year. Why because you know Dan
Speaker 1: just locked it up first of all, and you do
Speaker 1: not want to be the team that's ruining the day.
Speaker 1: They're ruining the day. We ever want to ruine the day? Well,
Speaker 1: we picked this game, by the way, in our NFL
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Speaker 1: you know, back it up three hour and if you're
Speaker 1: in the UK or elsewhere overseas, your bang. I already
Speaker 1: know what our picks are for this game, and I
Speaker 1: got a hero pick on the old Eagles. Well you
Speaker 1: better hope that happens. Greg they played the Falcon, Seahawks,
Speaker 1: Packers and Bengals. After this season, you're gonna rue the day, baby.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on schedule stuff. Next up my
Speaker 1: New York Jets, who have won two in a row.
Speaker 1: You know, I I sneaky. I'm not gonna say I
Speaker 1: bought back in, but hope is still in the building
Speaker 1: that hands this manner here in Culverge do it? I know,
Speaker 1: I know I shouldn't west. I can't control myself. They're
Speaker 1: three and five, win over the Browns. Swayed you that
Speaker 1: heavily back to back wins. Listen, I am a fan
Speaker 1: that is always hopeful, optimistic fan. Like it or not,
Speaker 1: that's just who I am. I wish it wasn't that way.
Speaker 1: But I look at this schedule and I say, let's
Speaker 1: there's a gleam, gentleman, and there's also a pulse. The
Speaker 1: Jets of three and five. They go to Miami now
Speaker 1: to face the Dolphins team that's playing better. I think
Speaker 1: I rightly made sure they weren't forked because they're a
Speaker 1: little bit frisky right now, and I honestly think it's
Speaker 1: a very good chance, all kidding aside, the Dolphins win
Speaker 1: this game. In fact, I took the Dolphins for our
Speaker 1: pick up show. I do think that the Jets. I
Speaker 1: don't think the Jets are good. I'm just saying if
Speaker 1: they got this win and then they got the Rams
Speaker 1: at home five and five the bye week, not a
Speaker 1: crazy thought. But Greg, I mean, I don't see it.
Speaker 1: Are you annoyed? Are you annoyed at this point that
Speaker 1: the Dolphins down on their luck after that ugly Thursday
Speaker 1: night game. Listen to the podcast as they always do.
Speaker 1: They heard that Dan Hansus was not gonna fork them,
Speaker 1: and they thought, you know what, no one else believes
Speaker 1: in us, but old Danny boy does. Let's start running
Speaker 1: the ball with Jay Gi. Let's start playing hard. Let's
Speaker 1: do it for Dan. Now they're three and four, you
Speaker 1: turn their season around. It's a weird way to look
Speaker 1: at things, but I'll take it. I'll take at least
Speaker 1: you have, you know, one of your defensive stalwarts. Sheldon
Speaker 1: Richardson telling the media, I'm the odd man out, what
Speaker 1: know what, he's right, should say it, But I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's wrong. It's just that's trying to the mindset
Speaker 1: you're going into trying to stop a running back that's
Speaker 1: had two hundred yards back. I don't think he'll have
Speaker 1: a hundred yards I think of the Jets lose, I
Speaker 1: don't think it will be because they get shredded by
Speaker 1: j g I. As much as I like, the guy
Speaker 1: was so refreshing last year that the circus was gone
Speaker 1: when Rex left, the Todd Bowls kept everything under control,
Speaker 1: there was no drama. And this year the circus is back.
Speaker 1: You've got Ryan Fitzpatrick going off on people, the geno
Speaker 1: Smith factor. You've got Sheldon Richardson calling himself the odd
Speaker 1: man out and why are they trying to trade him anyway?
Speaker 1: Rieva's telling a reporter that he's basically washed up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the circus is back in town for the Jets. It's
Speaker 1: not a good sign. They they need to have. The
Speaker 1: circus is almost a good thing for mccagnan and Todd
Speaker 1: Bowls and everyone to distract him from the real problem
Speaker 1: is that they never develop anyone. This team doesn't have
Speaker 1: any homeground. They got Quincy Nooner, Okay, how about Williams.
Speaker 1: They have they have leather rooms, but they lose Eric
Speaker 1: Decker and it's like the most devastating thing in the world.
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick free agent Marshall free agent? Uh, who else we got?
Speaker 1: Well develop it's all and brought back on offense. You
Speaker 1: have nothing to build around your older players. You know,
Speaker 1: Nick Mangolds not in this game. Mohammed Wilkerson's probably not
Speaker 1: in this game. They're not giving them what I think.
Speaker 1: I think part of this is the it's easy to
Speaker 1: say that and I agree with you that they're built
Speaker 1: as an older team. That's that's expensive with the got
Speaker 1: some expensive parts, but you had you had the what's
Speaker 1: his name, the Iceberg or whatever, what was it called
Speaker 1: the Glacier John it sick who They came in and
Speaker 1: wanted to make good with the fans and do undo
Speaker 1: some of the harm that It's Sick created in terms
Speaker 1: of not bringing in players. You you over pay reeves
Speaker 1: to get them back in the building, and it was
Speaker 1: I thought the trade for Brandon Marshall was inexpensive and good,
Speaker 1: but a lot of other things they've done are it's
Speaker 1: it's patches with veteran play. You have to develop younger guys,
Speaker 1: but they're only they're only a year and a half
Speaker 1: into there into the team. Listen, and we say it
Speaker 1: all the time the Jets, I think things would be
Speaker 1: a lot better off if Ryan Fitzpatrick would have been
Speaker 1: like the guy who was last year. But once he
Speaker 1: reverted back to being right Fitzpatrick and then the double
Speaker 1: trouble hit of Revas going off a cliff, which nobody
Speaker 1: really saw to this extent, they were done. They've been
Speaker 1: fine in the last game and a half since they
Speaker 1: brought him back because they have a running game Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: He's been okay, but that's what he looks. That's what
Speaker 1: he was last year. Ultimately, people dropping some interceptions. They
Speaker 1: don't have Decker, but you give him a little bit
Speaker 1: of a running game, and you know, it looks pretty good.
Speaker 1: If you lose this game, do you want to see
Speaker 1: Bryce Petty dan or or do you still think there's
Speaker 1: a chance for the playo. No, they need to get
Speaker 1: to the buy five five and one or five and five.
Speaker 1: They really do, so I would love to see Bryce
Speaker 1: Petty if if they lose one of these next two games.
Speaker 1: I am sneaky excited about this game because the winner
Speaker 1: will have won three straight games and feel very good
Speaker 1: about themselves, will have come back from the dead, and
Speaker 1: I love the j G I a versus the rushed
Speaker 1: defense matchup battle because if nothing else, the Dolphins kind
Speaker 1: of said, hey, this is who we are now, and
Speaker 1: no one tries to even run against the Jets and
Speaker 1: Jay Giant. We kind of throw it off like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: he had two hundred yards back to back games. That's
Speaker 1: insane that he's gonna be the Yao ming, Well, you
Speaker 1: can also also throw against the Jets. So there's you know,
Speaker 1: there's that you're making a face about such a great
Speaker 1: game to be excited. I'm just saying the Dolphins, especially
Speaker 1: if they win, I think and feel like, hey, we're
Speaker 1: in this, We're in the mix. Uh. Yes, anybody can
Speaker 1: throw against the Jets, but Ryan Town Hills involved, so
Speaker 1: that could be negated to well, we'll find out. Moving
Speaker 1: on another a f C matchup, here's the Jacksonville Jaguars
Speaker 1: traveling to Kansas City to face the Chiefs and West.
Speaker 1: Can you provide me a little bit of insight here?
Speaker 1: Explain it to me. Why is Alex Smith? Where's Alex Smith?
Speaker 1: Is Nick Foles the new starter with the Chiefs. What's
Speaker 1: happening in Kansas City? I don't understand it. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you can. The team comes out and says
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a concussion, but he does have an
Speaker 1: head head injury, and he's not gonna play. I mean,
Speaker 1: either he's concussed or he's not. They play it. They
Speaker 1: play things safely, and they should be applauded for that.
Speaker 1: They've done this in the past, not just a MIDI
Speaker 1: has a concussion. And if you're so worried about safety, hey,
Speaker 1: hey guys, maybe after he goes through the concussion protocol
Speaker 1: in the middle of last game and maybe don't don't
Speaker 1: have him run the read option a few more times
Speaker 1: to get his head cracked. That's what That's how he
Speaker 1: got hurt. The second of this is on Alex smith
Speaker 1: slide earlier. Yeah, he blamed the practice field this week
Speaker 1: to the whole thing is weird. This this is a
Speaker 1: battle of two franchises that were rebuilt in two thousand thirteen.
Speaker 1: One of them is going north and the other one
Speaker 1: continues to go south. And I think you can also
Speaker 1: call it the Quarterback Coaching Bowl. Bake Bortles, his mechanics
Speaker 1: are a mess. For two out of three years he's
Speaker 1: been in Jacksonville. They can't fix that. Nick Foles was broken.
Speaker 1: Okin with the Rams comes to Kansas City, and plays
Speaker 1: puts up a one third or thirty passer raiding and
Speaker 1: relief against Alex Smith. You could tell he was more confident,
Speaker 1: he was smoother in the pocket, he was more accurate,
Speaker 1: and Ay Reid deserves some credit for do you feel
Speaker 1: the the fulls thing specifically is a carryover operation where
Speaker 1: we could see that from week to week. I wonder
Speaker 1: if that was a sometimes reliever they come in, a
Speaker 1: backup comes in and just lights up the sky. Because
Speaker 1: it's a fair question. I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 1: I can only tell you that he did look like
Speaker 1: he looked like the Nick Foles that we saw at
Speaker 1: times in Philadelphia under Andy Reid, not the nick Foles
Speaker 1: we saw. He gives him a vertical game, but he's
Speaker 1: not taking I'm not saying that at all. Speaking of
Speaker 1: Andy Reid a little aside here, the Chiefs one fifteen
Speaker 1: of seventeen dating back to last year. They won a
Speaker 1: playoff game last year. Is he the most underrated coach
Speaker 1: of his generation? It's well, yes, let's that's a good question,
Speaker 1: and I think he's certainly a candidate. Another way to
Speaker 1: look at it, is any other any team in the
Speaker 1: league that won fifteen out of seventeen. What how have
Speaker 1: some buzz around it. The Chiefs continue to be seen
Speaker 1: as this also ran Well, we've been talking about them
Speaker 1: a lot. We all pick them. The way I'm saying
Speaker 1: this year, they're ignored. They're just more. I think it
Speaker 1: is because I think Alex Smith, and it's this is
Speaker 1: not unfair. You look at the team the way they're built.
Speaker 1: You have to respect them. But there's also this very
Speaker 1: clear cut ceiling because he you don't get to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl often with average quarterback play, and he's not
Speaker 1: statistically he's above average, but he's Alex Smith. They they
Speaker 1: have reached the next level though, as an organization. When
Speaker 1: Nick Foles is your starter last week he comes into
Speaker 1: the game Sharkandrick West is your running back. There's no
Speaker 1: Spencer where this week. And they're huge favorites the Colts.
Speaker 1: They had plenty of time to come back in that
Speaker 1: game after Foles and West are the two leading guys,
Speaker 1: and it's like, Nope, it doesn't matter. That's the type
Speaker 1: that's Patriots Seahawks level type stuff. Doesn't matter who's in there.
Speaker 1: The system is gonna beat you, at least bad teams
Speaker 1: like this, and they're in third place five and two
Speaker 1: and they're sitting in third place. UM, let's move on,
Speaker 1: guys and talk about the Dallas Cowboys now six and
Speaker 1: one after that exciting overtime win over the Eagles in
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football. Now they travel to Cleveland. Uh. Downtrodden,
Speaker 1: heartbroken Cleveland after the Indians lost. Uh. Now they get
Speaker 1: to watch the oh and eight Browns. Uh. And on
Speaker 1: one comment I'll make Like last week, for instance, I
Speaker 1: got a hero pick on the Jets. I feel like
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot, and not just from this room,
Speaker 1: a lot of people picking the Browns week to week.
Speaker 1: And the one thing I took out of the Jets
Speaker 1: game was there's a reason the Browns lose all these
Speaker 1: games because it is one of the worst defenses you're
Speaker 1: ever gonna see. So for people that are gonna say, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a trap game, to me, it goes back
Speaker 1: to the same thing Mark, which is the Browns have
Speaker 1: no ability to close because they don't have the players
Speaker 1: and maybe they don't have the scheme. The Browns are
Speaker 1: a mess and people don't seem to look at them
Speaker 1: that way. There are a mess on one side of
Speaker 1: the ball, specifically, they're overmanned. They have too many young players.
Speaker 1: I mean one reason in that a trade for a
Speaker 1: guy like Jamie Collins, regardless of the fact that New
Speaker 1: England has shipped out Jamie Collins acting like he's one
Speaker 1: of the worst football players that ever say, but you
Speaker 1: need some older leadership and some guys that have kind
Speaker 1: of been there before. That is one of the youngest
Speaker 1: defenses and they're taking their lumps, if you want to.
Speaker 1: The reason people I think we're picking Cleveland is because
Speaker 1: the way that Hugh Jackson is coached from quarterback to quarterback,
Speaker 1: what he's dealt with in the fact that you still
Speaker 1: see serviceable quarterback performances most week to week, whether it's
Speaker 1: Cody Kessler or Josh McCown, and their ability as an
Speaker 1: offense to to go through all those variations, and the
Speaker 1: fact that you get Corey Coleman back, and the fact
Speaker 1: that the reason the Browns were dominating the Jets in
Speaker 1: the first half because Terrell Prior was absolutely unstoppable and
Speaker 1: there aren't many cornerbacks that can shut them down. All
Speaker 1: that is present so they can stay in some of
Speaker 1: the games these games. But by any way you look
Speaker 1: at it, it's not just their past defense. Their run
Speaker 1: defense is an absolute disaster right now, after starting stronger
Speaker 1: than it should have earlier in the well, right outrageous.
Speaker 1: You look at this matchup and tell me how you
Speaker 1: are going to stop Jason Witten, How you're gonna stop
Speaker 1: Cole beasl you haven't stopped slot receivers all year, or
Speaker 1: tight you're gonna have their offensive line, their offensive whatsoever.
Speaker 1: We haven't even mentioned Ezekiel elliott I. Just this game
Speaker 1: is not a trap game. This is this is a
Speaker 1: game that could be a wipeout tight material for Cleveland,
Speaker 1: where the fall the floor falls out early and the
Speaker 1: game script if there is one for the Browns, is
Speaker 1: blown up by halftime. If not the quarter Eliot's ammortal
Speaker 1: lock for a hundred and fifty total yards here. I
Speaker 1: mean everything is set up well for him to have
Speaker 1: a monster game, barring them taking him out early and
Speaker 1: putting Alf Morrison. Yes, do you have any Brown sources
Speaker 1: with any idea who's going to start at quarterback? Well?
Speaker 1: The only note I do not personally, but but people,
Speaker 1: some people that work inside the building in their media
Speaker 1: limb have talked more about it being Kessler. I think
Speaker 1: at this point with Josh McCown. It could be a
Speaker 1: Browns coach next year if he wanted. Probably, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's a bad idea to I think the
Speaker 1: Browns could be frisky if mccowm was starting, if McCom
Speaker 1: was starting, throwing to prior in Coleman against the Cowboys
Speaker 1: secondary missing Barry Church and Morris Clayborne. I think the
Speaker 1: Browns can put up some points. Kessler. I know everybody's
Speaker 1: really high on him, and he's exceeded expectations too many
Speaker 1: three and ounce for my like, down down was a
Speaker 1: big part of the problem last week too, though in
Speaker 1: the second half that's fine. But he can move the ball.
Speaker 1: But their whole offense was vertical based with him. Started
Speaker 1: two games this year. Those two games there two of
Speaker 1: their three highest yardage games. They've gone over four hundred yards.
Speaker 1: But he makes he makes those killer mistakes, and that's
Speaker 1: why you can't I wouldn't blame them for playing playing
Speaker 1: Cody Kesler. The one thing I thought about the Browns.
Speaker 1: I know there's not a lot of talent on defense,
Speaker 1: and and Ray Horton has got it done it bad.
Speaker 1: You know, he's been given a tough spot. Here are
Speaker 1: though his it's worth pointing out his finishes in points
Speaker 1: allowed for the teams that he's coached over the last
Speaker 1: five years, the last four years, three and then now
Speaker 1: so he it's been a long time since Ray Harton
Speaker 1: coached the team that wasn't one of the worst defenses
Speaker 1: in the league. It's not particularly easy, probably when they
Speaker 1: were putting the staff together to get a lot of
Speaker 1: people to sign up to be the defensive and very
Speaker 1: similar talent. They get better though, well he leaves Tennessee
Speaker 1: because Dick Lebow is there. That's not an easy place
Speaker 1: to be a defensive coordinator with the greatest defensive mind
Speaker 1: hanging over your shoulder every week. But but you're right,
Speaker 1: they they've there's been development on offense. There's been a
Speaker 1: sum with certain players on defense. But you look at Dallas,
Speaker 1: they're developing players there. The team that's drafting offensive lineman
Speaker 1: and turning it in the best offensive line in the league.
Speaker 1: They everyone counted their defense out and they've been credibly
Speaker 1: Their effort in the way they've worked week to week
Speaker 1: has been very impressive in Dallas. You know, over the
Speaker 1: past five years or so, it's always fun to put
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones near the bottom of any GM list, not
Speaker 1: now very um, but it's if you look at their
Speaker 1: roster now you're just frankly not the right way to
Speaker 1: look at it. Uh. Let's move on, guys. In a
Speaker 1: f C North the Battle whoa doctor of the Pittsburgh Steelers,
Speaker 1: who one will assume will have Ben Roethlisberger behind center,
Speaker 1: travel to Baltimore to face the Ravens. The Ravens one
Speaker 1: of the weirder seven games starts, uh that you'll have.
Speaker 1: Uh started with three straight wins, including some kind of
Speaker 1: um exciting endings for the victories, a lot of good,
Speaker 1: good spirit. And now I've lost four in a row.
Speaker 1: So they are desperate for a win. They really need this.
Speaker 1: And now they get a Steelers team mark that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll probably see big Ben. Will he be big Ben?
Speaker 1: Will he be able to finish the game if he
Speaker 1: plays some unknowns with this game for Pittsburgh. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean there were people that thought Big Ben would be
Speaker 1: out for a while, and if he's back in, it
Speaker 1: speaks to you know, how much they need him to
Speaker 1: become what they are. I mean, a hundred people being
Speaker 1: Ben sources that set up a long timeline and then
Speaker 1: he beats it. Well, I have not dealt with that
Speaker 1: type of injuries, So that's not even that that's parsing
Speaker 1: steel That's how we got to call him from the
Speaker 1: Steelers organization. That's how. That's how maximum drama for every
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger injury because it was two to three weeks
Speaker 1: when when Ian Rappaport was reporting it, and then it
Speaker 1: was five to six weeks when when other sources when
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger was reporting right, sounds back to two and three.
Speaker 1: It's similar to the way Connor or it was getting
Speaker 1: behind the Panthers because he wanted to be ahead of
Speaker 1: all the narratives about the media doubted us keep pounding.
Speaker 1: It's the same thing. Hen you know, Ben's trying, He's
Speaker 1: playing this, he's pulling the strings. Tarrell Sugs put it well,
Speaker 1: West he said, you know he's not fooling anybody with
Speaker 1: this stuff. We know we're gonna see him on son.
Speaker 1: Terrell Sucks has seen this for twelve years. Probably, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean this is Ben's move. He does it all
Speaker 1: the time. Well, Ben has missed seven games against the Ravens.
Speaker 1: He can milk an injury with the best of him,
Speaker 1: and then he can come back and put on a
Speaker 1: show with the bill, and he's going to because when
Speaker 1: was the last time we saw Leve Bell, Antonio Brown,
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger all healthy and humming together. There was only
Speaker 1: about one game there where you got to see it.
Speaker 1: Leve Bell is averaging more than a hundred in fifty
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage each and every week. That's outrageous. That's
Speaker 1: a yard type of pace. Even with Larrd Landry Jones,
Speaker 1: he gets a hundred and fifty yards. It's fantastic. And
Speaker 1: Jagi's first two hundred yard game, he wasn't even the
Speaker 1: best running back on the field because Levi on Bell's
Speaker 1: cuts were insane. In that game, he was healthy, smooth,
Speaker 1: I mean, and also Antonio Brown outside of you played
Speaker 1: well with Landry Jones in there against the Patriots. I
Speaker 1: think that was the first time he's crossed the hundred
Speaker 1: yard barrier without Big Ben on the field. I mean,
Speaker 1: you said it, you need you need your quarterback in there. Right.
Speaker 1: There's all this stuff about he's not I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's not a tough guy. Is that we're saying.
Speaker 1: But I mean, Big Ben is unbelievable. Just you know,
Speaker 1: you know it. That's the that's the hook. Care I
Speaker 1: hear we haven't tucked Ravens, which this was a team
Speaker 1: when we started talking about the season, there was like
Speaker 1: they were the big mystery team. They could go either way.
Speaker 1: We can't figure them out. And now here it is
Speaker 1: week nine and I I still feel like we can't
Speaker 1: figure them out. They haven't had any continuity. They change
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators and it doesn't really help. They've got a
Speaker 1: lot coin for them coming out of the bye though,
Speaker 1: with the offensive line finally healthy. They had their two
Speaker 1: best offensive lineman hadn't played in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: And I don't know what's going on with the running game.
Speaker 1: Watching that game before the bye, they only ran the
Speaker 1: ball to set up play action, which is not a
Speaker 1: way to run a Raven's offense. Flack Flacco had a meltdown. Well.
Speaker 1: Flacco is on pace to throw the second most past
Speaker 1: attempts of any quarterback in NFL history over the course
Speaker 1: of his season. And from everything we know about Joe Flacco,
Speaker 1: he's streaky, he can get good, he can be effective,
Speaker 1: but that's not the game plan with with with Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco speaks to your point, I mean when the idea
Speaker 1: was they were going to be a balanced offense. Right now,
Speaker 1: we don't know what kind of team they are. What
Speaker 1: they're mysterious to us because that's what seven and nine
Speaker 1: or nine and seven or eight and eight teams look
Speaker 1: like week to Every single one of their games is
Speaker 1: a one score game this year, So they that they
Speaker 1: are the middle middle team. I could see this being
Speaker 1: in the thirties. You didn't like it when it was
Speaker 1: ten to six. I could see both of the I
Speaker 1: don't think the Steelers defense very good. They're the worst
Speaker 1: pass rushing team in the NFL. Steal us have the Jets, Dolphins,
Speaker 1: and Saints up. It's not too bad. Jets already played
Speaker 1: the Steelers. I have that information, absolutely incorrect. Looked at
Speaker 1: the wrong team, all right. Moving on the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty Niners steak. We all know it. But who's worse
Speaker 1: on the road than the Saints. Well maybe forty, but
Speaker 1: that's a different discussion. The Saints travel to big bottom.
Speaker 1: You do that, so well, that's that's a thing. Uh
Speaker 1: three and four Saints team that has won three or
Speaker 1: four games after an oh and three start, and Greg
Speaker 1: I would say the Saints to me. Of all the
Speaker 1: teams that we've forked, and I think we've forked around
Speaker 1: five teams at this point, maybe six, they're the one
Speaker 1: that poses the greatest threat just because Drew Brees Absolutely
Speaker 1: I think they have a chance to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I think they probably fall short. Nine and seven type
Speaker 1: of team. But you said they played poorly on the road.
Speaker 1: That's that's mostly true. But I think they stumbled into
Speaker 1: something in Kansas City when they really outplayed the Chiefs
Speaker 1: and they changed their offense to this boring, ball control
Speaker 1: we're just gonna hold the ball forever and keep our
Speaker 1: lousy defense off the field type of game. And I
Speaker 1: thought they played it well. Again, what took so long
Speaker 1: to figure out this attack? Well, you got explosive, you
Speaker 1: got explosive, you got explosive players. You want to use it.
Speaker 1: You you're an offensive team, you want to go down
Speaker 1: the field. They limited the Seahawks to thirteen offensive points,
Speaker 1: only nine possessions. And they get Sheldon Rankin's back this week,
Speaker 1: and they might get Delvin Brow back this week. That's
Speaker 1: two defensive players. You got somethings looking up. If you're
Speaker 1: gonna be a ball control offense, I would like to
Speaker 1: have seen the mark Ingram from the last couple of seasons.
Speaker 1: They don't have that right now. When he fumbled last week,
Speaker 1: and then they Sean Payton just ran with with Tim
Speaker 1: Hi Tower, who did a good job, but what is
Speaker 1: there for them? Then ball controls five yard throws to
Speaker 1: Willie Snead and Michael Tom the Niners of a lot
Speaker 1: of one yard rusher in six con second weeks, which
Speaker 1: is kind of hard to do. So I don't know
Speaker 1: who's gonna be getting the ball, but you would think
Speaker 1: the Saints will be able to move it on the ground,
Speaker 1: whether it's high Tower or Ingram. Well on the flip side,
Speaker 1: the Saints have been ghastly against the run on defense,
Speaker 1: and it sounds like Carlos Hide might not play in
Speaker 1: this game. You know who looked good? Sounds like he's back.
Speaker 1: I think you know it looked good before the bye.
Speaker 1: Dawan Harris, who was a Green Bay Packers practice squad
Speaker 1: cast off who ruptured his knee a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: ran like a man possessed before the bye. I think
Speaker 1: he'll probably get the bulk of the workload because Chip
Speaker 1: Kelly came out and said he deserves more more touches.
Speaker 1: It's a game Saints should win to your point to
Speaker 1: four and four. Their schedule in the second half is
Speaker 1: not too bad. They're they're getting close to the Patriots.
Speaker 1: For you, Greg, your favorite team? Oh. Greg loves to
Speaker 1: see the way Chargers, I would say are number two
Speaker 1: right now. Carlos hide as a sprain day ced joint.
Speaker 1: That's that's often not a one week injury. We don't
Speaker 1: there's no guarantees gonna be back in this girl. You
Speaker 1: meet a girl and you're telling your friends and you're
Speaker 1: so excited about the relationship. You're still after all these years,
Speaker 1: still kind of in that honeymoon phase. Whenever you talk
Speaker 1: you no, I was, it's unrequited. Greg loves the Saints
Speaker 1: more than the Saints love Greg. They never put a
Speaker 1: defense worth watching out there. That's fair? Or how about
Speaker 1: this look at it, thirty seven year old man. When
Speaker 1: you think about the Saints, you think about being young,
Speaker 1: and you think about being a two lane I couldn't
Speaker 1: have attached single and going to the bars and hanging
Speaker 1: out with your boy Jesal Nick and just feeling alive
Speaker 1: for the first time in your life. That's a good theory.
Speaker 1: I didn't care about the Saints last few years. This
Speaker 1: team is a lot more fun on offense. To market,
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas is the key at market. What age did
Speaker 1: you feel the most alive right now, right this moment.
Speaker 1: I don't believe that. I think in your mid twenties
Speaker 1: there is a nice mix of I'm not I don't
Speaker 1: need to accomplish some thing necessarily. Today I can fend
Speaker 1: off the expect and I can go absolutely wild, going
Speaker 1: like perfect, I'm going to clip this off and send
Speaker 1: it to your wives. When my first child was born,
Speaker 1: that's well except that Dan nobody. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that probably was a high watermark in your life. The
Speaker 1: idea that's when you felt most free. I'd be concerned
Speaker 1: about your parenting because that's when you should say, you
Speaker 1: know what, now I'm going to embrace Well, I don't.
Speaker 1: I think that there is a part of you that
Speaker 1: feels alive when at the birth of your child. But
Speaker 1: in the context of the question that you asked, you
Speaker 1: are absolutely lying to us, and no one buys it.
Speaker 1: All right, if that's if what I'm saying is not true,
Speaker 1: you being a baseball fan, couldn't that's way like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm way over the baseball fan thing that was at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the show. I'm already listen, We've got
Speaker 1: six or seven months till baseball again. It's fantast love
Speaker 1: my kids, Yeah, I love my kids. Look, I got
Speaker 1: another one one on the way. It just sounds so genuine. Uh.
Speaker 1: And I love my wife too, And that's that's where
Speaker 1: I draw my happiness from. Clip it Off said, all right,
Speaker 1: out of the show, Um, let's move on and talk
Speaker 1: about the Carolina Panthers in Los Angeles. Rams. Uh, this
Speaker 1: game is being played at the Coliseum. The Rams haven't
Speaker 1: been there in a while. In fact that I think
Speaker 1: they've only played two games so far this season at home.
Speaker 1: This will be the third one. And the Panthers, you know,
Speaker 1: if they're gonna get going, it's gonna be right now
Speaker 1: two and five. You can't have a big win last
Speaker 1: week at Arizona and then crap the bed again. You
Speaker 1: gott I mean, you gotta, you gotta step up West.
Speaker 1: Do you think the Panthers are about we'll take flight?
Speaker 1: That would be a mixing of metaphors. But start galloping
Speaker 1: really fast, like through jungle and Panthers gallop, you know
Speaker 1: they Basically they'd be running and they jump on top
Speaker 1: of that Ram and they'd rip them to you know
Speaker 1: what Panthers do then oh yeah, pound? Are they ready
Speaker 1: to pounce? Uh? Consistently? I like this matchup, And even
Speaker 1: with the Rams, I like this matchup. Panthers. I don't
Speaker 1: know if if people know this have the best run
Speaker 1: defense in the NFL. They average only three point three
Speaker 1: yards per carry allowed, completely shut down the league's best
Speaker 1: running back last week, David Johnson. And now they get
Speaker 1: the running back with the lowest yards per carry in
Speaker 1: the NFL and Todd Gurley. I don't know how the
Speaker 1: Rams are gonna move the ball. Is case Keenum good
Speaker 1: enough to pick on this Panther since Keenum has seven
Speaker 1: interceptions over his last three games. The question for me,
Speaker 1: we are hearing more and more about Jared Goff and
Speaker 1: we're in they're acting, they're acting like we should be
Speaker 1: excited about this news. This would have been exciting in July,
Speaker 1: but we've moved on. Well, no, but he's getting more
Speaker 1: and more first team reps. It's like, hey, guys, we're
Speaker 1: really making progress with the number one pick in the draft.
Speaker 1: I have to wonder if this thing goes south early.
Speaker 1: Are we finally going to see Jared Goff on the field?
Speaker 1: I think they're waiting until they feel like they're a
Speaker 1: little lot of contention. Two games under five hundred might
Speaker 1: be that that moment, So that would mean this is
Speaker 1: his last chance. I wouldn't be surprised so that So
Speaker 1: the translation is they don't view Golf, the number one
Speaker 1: pick in the draft, as a quarterback that could possibly
Speaker 1: keep them in contention. Well, you would think they would
Speaker 1: not read Yeah, you would think they would play him
Speaker 1: if that was the case. I don't like this matchup
Speaker 1: be there for the Rams because I think this Panther
Speaker 1: I'm willing to believe this Panther's team is different. You know,
Speaker 1: they came back from the bye. You said, can they
Speaker 1: take advantage of that secondary? Maybe that defense is gonna
Speaker 1: play to their talent level the rest of the way.
Speaker 1: I know the secondary is not great overall, but it
Speaker 1: should be a good defense. They played like it last
Speaker 1: week and they got Jonathan Stewart got Having the time
Speaker 1: off for him really helped. He looks He looked like
Speaker 1: a totally new runner, making people miss running people over
Speaker 1: a lot of juice and if you can run the
Speaker 1: ball on the rams. You're gonna win. And that's that's why.
Speaker 1: What's happening? What's coming over me? Right now? Where's the
Speaker 1: lock's up? Really trying to sell it locking it up? Huh?
Speaker 1: I got locked up just like I did in Orleans
Speaker 1: Paris prison one night in two thousand, Brad got arrested
Speaker 1: when you truly felt in that jail cells that when
Speaker 1: you truly felt the most alive. No, I mean I
Speaker 1: was worried about staying on What was the charge? Um
Speaker 1: and be honest with us. Prostitution, disturbing the peace, was
Speaker 1: disturbing the piece, like you just disturbed the piece a
Speaker 1: second ago with this lock it up war cry that
Speaker 1: came out of your mouth. What were you doing to this?
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to tell us, Uh, well I've
Speaker 1: told you before. Well that doesn't This is a this
Speaker 1: is a forum. I was on the outskirts of a
Speaker 1: big altercation which I rolling up the sleeves and throwing
Speaker 1: hay make Honestly, wasn't you know involved in and uh
Speaker 1: you know they locked us up. They had to lock
Speaker 1: it up. Anybody, anybody takes exception with me and gentle neck,
Speaker 1: we're coming after y'all. Did you throw a punch? Did
Speaker 1: you land where? It wasn't punch landed on? The problem
Speaker 1: was I was carrying a guy who had been knocked
Speaker 1: out during this altercation, not caring, but we're walking. Put
Speaker 1: him over, We're walking. He was like hemingway on the battlefield.
Speaker 1: He's like a hundred. No, he's not a big guy.
Speaker 1: We're walking. His hands over my shoulder. Suddenly I hear
Speaker 1: behind me that where do you think you're going? And
Speaker 1: it's like we hadn't got everyone else left, so you
Speaker 1: were being a good samaritan and you got arrested for it.
Speaker 1: I was a friend, not so much. I like how
Speaker 1: Greg is painted this. He was in the middle of
Speaker 1: a massive bare knuckle brawl. He saw a man down,
Speaker 1: he threw him over his shoulder, like forrest gun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said I didn't. I wasn't involved at all. I'm
Speaker 1: glad Mark delved into that one. I like the Panthers
Speaker 1: again as well, and I think they're gonna go on
Speaker 1: a run here is anybody else? Uh? Has anybody picking
Speaker 1: the rams here? No? Okay, I can't do it. Battle
Speaker 1: of the eighty five Bears Mark Ron Rivera versus Jeff Fisher. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. Cam Newton's had two awesome games in a row.
Speaker 1: To might be, Oh, you're a little overboard, going to
Speaker 1: run your way overboard on that. I mean, there's only
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks getting hit. More to say, like an m
Speaker 1: v P and I watched the game and I'm like,
Speaker 1: where's this MVP he played? He made four or five
Speaker 1: throws from the pocket under pressure on third and long
Speaker 1: to keep the ball moving. He ran the ball. He
Speaker 1: did the exact same thing he did last Massive hyperbole
Speaker 1: from the boss and the over under on Tiki Tack.
Speaker 1: Personal fouls in his favor is being set at one
Speaker 1: and a half after his meeting with the commissioner, the
Speaker 1: NFL want to send a message we protect our stars.
Speaker 1: Flags are coming out for you know, if a little
Speaker 1: whip breeze goes by his left ear hole, the laundry
Speaker 1: is coming out. I hear you. I think he had
Speaker 1: a point last week, but I hear you, little bit
Speaker 1: of some makeup calls are coming. Basically, let's move on.
Speaker 1: The Indianapolis called stink their three and five. Uh. Nobody
Speaker 1: likes them, nobody like watching them. Uh. And now they
Speaker 1: travel to Green Bay to face the Packers, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know what, Mark, I know you're not the biggest
Speaker 1: Packers fan, but you're starting to see some things you
Speaker 1: like about this team, don't you, aren't you. I think
Speaker 1: there's something to like in the fact that Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: has put together two of the better games he's had
Speaker 1: over the last couple of years. Frankly, and it's I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a total miarage. They're getting different guys involved.
Speaker 1: You know. I tweeted this and someone who's like acting
Speaker 1: like these guys aren't all stars. But I like seeing
Speaker 1: the fact that young players like Trevor Davis, Geronimo Allen
Speaker 1: are in the game. Excuse me, Ronald Allison. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like you're getting some of these younger guys in there.
Speaker 1: It's not the same cast of characters. Jordy Nelson, I
Speaker 1: thought played one of his better games last week. He
Speaker 1: looked like a different player. And their backfield situation is
Speaker 1: is very strange. But there's reason to believe that Green
Speaker 1: Bay can make something of the second half of the season.
Speaker 1: And it couldn't come against the better band or defense
Speaker 1: to have it happened against in Indianapolis, right, He didn't
Speaker 1: even mention the Packers best receiver, Davante Adams, who has
Speaker 1: a chance to go twelve receptions back to back to back,
Speaker 1: which I believe may have never been done in history. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't that's I don't think he. They have better
Speaker 1: players and the guys I mentioned, But those guys, it's
Speaker 1: like it's not the same two or three people doing
Speaker 1: the same two or three things every game. There's a
Speaker 1: little bit more of a diversity to this offer. I mean,
Speaker 1: they had to start figuring out some other options. While
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson. Maybe now Jordy Nelson's getting back now to
Speaker 1: where he was, but he wasn't. Randall Cobb doesn't seem
Speaker 1: to be like the same guy who was a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. So finally, and and Devonte him stepping up,
Speaker 1: that's huge for the Colts at this point. Our team
Speaker 1: that I just can't imagine winning against the above average
Speaker 1: team on the road period, Like do we think every
Speaker 1: any given Sunday. But that's true for except for about
Speaker 1: four or five teams on the road. And I feel
Speaker 1: like the Colts are now that team. I would be
Speaker 1: stunned if they win this game. And the Packers aren't
Speaker 1: a great team. It's I just can't imagine the Colts
Speaker 1: at this point beating a good team in his career.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they beat the Titan. Philip there Set,
Speaker 1: make a play in your career. You're being outplayed by
Speaker 1: Jack Doyle and undrafted three age and you're a first
Speaker 1: round pick. When the Colts could have gotten a Blue
Speaker 1: Goose pass rusher or a Hog Molly on their offensive line,
Speaker 1: they draft Philip door Set. He drops balls, he drops punts,
Speaker 1: he doesn't make plays. That's why luck of the week woo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he just locked it up. Is that Dante Moncrief has
Speaker 1: a career game against the Packers, Donte Moncrief career game
Speaker 1: t Y Hilton has a hamstring injury. Philip doors Set,
Speaker 1: I don't know what his problem is, but he just
Speaker 1: doesn't make This is a really long way of getting
Speaker 1: to uh you what you just WestEd Phil door Set
Speaker 1: in a big spot and uh by association Ryan Grigson,
Speaker 1: who picked him, I think he WestEd the lock of
Speaker 1: the week segment by now making it an individual accomplishment.
Speaker 1: What do you mean now, I've been doing that all
Speaker 1: ye you can lock up whatever you want. I didn't
Speaker 1: know that I'm not locked up anything because it may
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with football when I get there.
Speaker 1: And as much as this offensive line gets grief for
Speaker 1: getting Andrew Luck killed, that's not all they're bad at.
Speaker 1: They lead the league since the beginning of last year,
Speaker 1: and most big plays called back because their offensive line
Speaker 1: continues to make penalties over and over. There was a
Speaker 1: huge touchdown to Dante Moncreef last week that got called
Speaker 1: back because Denzel Good is grabbing somebody by the ankle. Well,
Speaker 1: they also have no pass rush. They're counting on Robert
Speaker 1: Mathis at thirty five years old off of a serious
Speaker 1: injury to be their best pass usher. That matchup against
Speaker 1: the Packers offensive line is a joke. I mean, Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers is going to do whatever he wants, is sitting
Speaker 1: back there for five seconds every place, and only two
Speaker 1: teams in the league right now allowing a higher passer
Speaker 1: rating to opposing quarterbacks in the Colts A famous also
Speaker 1: questionable with a concussion, which would be harmful. Add that
Speaker 1: to it. Every time we talked about the Cults, you
Speaker 1: know what, we could just in week one record our
Speaker 1: thoughts on the Cults and then just replay it week
Speaker 1: to week, because it is it feels like we're just
Speaker 1: rehashing the same issue with this team. Some character named
Speaker 1: Matthias Farley played four snaps for the Colts last week
Speaker 1: at safety, and on one of those snaps, Alex Smith
Speaker 1: stared down Jeremy Macklin for the whole route and still
Speaker 1: completed an easy touchdown over this character named Matthias Farley.
Speaker 1: You just got WestEd, Matthias West did. Uh. Let's move on,
Speaker 1: gentlemen and talk about the Tennessee Titans and San Diego Chargers.
Speaker 1: Tennessee traveling to San Diego, the Titans hanging around four
Speaker 1: and four. Marcus Mariota's making some plays now the last
Speaker 1: few weeks, which has done a lot, has done wonders
Speaker 1: for their for their offense obviously, but now he's got
Speaker 1: a tough spot. The Chargers, who everyone's a fan of
Speaker 1: this team. Uh, despite their three and five record. Uh.
Speaker 1: They put up a fight up against anyone, and Greg
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa is gonna get his chance to go after
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. And that's a fun little battle. It is,
Speaker 1: and it's strength on strength in terms of the guys
Speaker 1: up front. But the Chargers injury woes are getting to
Speaker 1: a point where you think maybe it's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: They lost Denzel Pairman and Tavis Brown most likely for
Speaker 1: this game at linebacker. Going up against the best rushing attack,
Speaker 1: one of the best rushing attacks in the NFL, that's
Speaker 1: a disaster. I mean that. I think the matchup this
Speaker 1: week with the Titans, especially with the guys that are
Speaker 1: hurt at linebacker for San Diego, is trouble. I kind
Speaker 1: of like the Titans in this I get I get
Speaker 1: the Titans credit because they went in as much as
Speaker 1: any team in the league with a very specific, verbalized
Speaker 1: idea of what they wanted to be and it was
Speaker 1: not perfect out of the gate. But at this point,
Speaker 1: you've got seven straight one yard rushing games, They've scored
Speaker 1: twenty six plus points in four straight games. And that
Speaker 1: Thursday night game, why was it boring? Because they absolutely
Speaker 1: pulverized the Jaguars, They absolutely dominated Jackson well exactly, but
Speaker 1: it's it wasn't competitive because you expect, oh, well, these
Speaker 1: two teams are in the in the aisles. We were
Speaker 1: here on Thursday nights. Have I missed that he took
Speaker 1: off his clothes in a very similar thing to what
Speaker 1: happened at the super Bowl or that's going to happen,
Speaker 1: ran up and down the aisles and just was like,
Speaker 1: I was right about Marcus Mariota. None of this happened.
Speaker 1: That's a that would be a heavy HR violations. I
Speaker 1: think it would be, and it's a little disturbing. This
Speaker 1: is where Greg's mind went. Dan's mind went there first,
Speaker 1: No Greg's went there first, and no one else went
Speaker 1: there Greg Dan went with me naked punching Tom Brady. Okay,
Speaker 1: why do I have Why can't I be closed? That's
Speaker 1: a different type of news. I don't know why it's happening.
Speaker 1: It just keeps on happening in the show. By the way,
Speaker 1: my fantasy move to Tony Romo and use all of
Speaker 1: my free agent budget and drop Marcus Mariota exactly four
Speaker 1: weeks continues to pay off in speed, best red zone
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. This is a lot of regular
Speaker 1: Ryan Griggson over here. That was I got gregged out
Speaker 1: on that one. They well below five. Chargers are the
Speaker 1: best team the Titans have played in five weeks. Though, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I don't feel confident in either team. Like
Speaker 1: the belly laugh there either. Greg you know, taking joy
Speaker 1: in one of my biggest fantasy failures in personnelity. I
Speaker 1: didn't know what I didn't know what the story was,
Speaker 1: and then you as you were unfolding it, I'm thinking, wow, Wow,
Speaker 1: this is the worst possible thing that could have happened.
Speaker 1: It's pretty bad. It's so bad that I'm not even
Speaker 1: upset about it anymore. It's just kind of a funny things.
Speaker 1: It's like the moment that Mariotta went on fire. It's
Speaker 1: like there's always two thousand seventeen exactly. You just had
Speaker 1: some a certain point, just turned the page. It's okay. Uh.
Speaker 1: Travis Benjamin and Tyrone Williams are also sidelined Wednesday and Thursday.
Speaker 1: And the biggest problematic, it's the biggest Chargers backer in
Speaker 1: the national media feels bad about the Chargers chances this
Speaker 1: week next Yeah, well we'll see how it plays out
Speaker 1: next Tuesday. By the way, America goes to the polls
Speaker 1: to figure out. Yeah, they as our last preview show
Speaker 1: before you know, the takes whatever, and it's all done.
Speaker 1: No more fun that playing defense against the Gestapo. We're
Speaker 1: all working towards the right vote on that one. But um,
Speaker 1: there is another vote November eight. Well, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of it's the general election, a lot of stuff that's
Speaker 1: right on. But San Diego residents will have their opportunity
Speaker 1: to vote yes n see, which would fund a stadium
Speaker 1: that would allow them to stay in San Diego. I
Speaker 1: really hope they stay there. That would suck if they left,
Speaker 1: because there's a nice fan base there. A lot of
Speaker 1: populaces don't have the chance to say yes or no
Speaker 1: on this kind of thing. Sometimes teams just get pulled
Speaker 1: out and away from you. If they don't get this done,
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel good because it's not gonna happen. By
Speaker 1: all accounts. They gotta get a two thirds vote, and
Speaker 1: eight new Slash voters have woken up. We're not paying
Speaker 1: for stadiums, and I get it. And then we also,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, but the Chargers, their mom and pop organization, Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, let's get some ownership and they'll pony
Speaker 1: up money to build a stadium. Do we really need
Speaker 1: two teams in Los Angeles? I can confirm that we
Speaker 1: do not, And I love, I love the ownership in
Speaker 1: San Diego. Let me just stay Greg wonderful who I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm all for the little guy. But you know
Speaker 1: you're pointing out you're pointing out some fiscal tension there.
Speaker 1: That's that's fair. Let's move on. A team named after
Speaker 1: credit cards, let's move Is that true? Yes? Really, credit
Speaker 1: cards are credit card users. Baron Hilton was the original
Speaker 1: owner of the San Diego Chargers a credit card. Man.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a classic West pun for a second,
Speaker 1: but then I sniffed it out and I said, is
Speaker 1: also a student of history. Maybe this is going somewhere
Speaker 1: and it's paid off. Well, you read me so well, man,
Speaker 1: Let's move on Sunday night football. Oh we got a
Speaker 1: good one here. The Denver Broncos six and two they
Speaker 1: head to Oakland against the six and two Raiders. How
Speaker 1: about that? Um, a f C West supremacy on the
Speaker 1: line for al Chris and the war world? And uh,
Speaker 1: here we go, Chris Westling. Um, I know just by
Speaker 1: your general comments that you haven't been completely sold on
Speaker 1: the Raiders here? Uh, does that mean that you believe
Speaker 1: the Broncos are gonna be seven and two by the
Speaker 1: time they wake up Monday morning? I would put it
Speaker 1: this way. You know, you would think that Greg would
Speaker 1: call this a fork in the road game. First place
Speaker 1: on the line, one team goes by itself in first place,
Speaker 1: the other team might fall behind the Chiefs big time
Speaker 1: fork in the road game. You would think that's what
Speaker 1: it is, but it's not. You're locking it up. No,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a prove it game. I don't really
Speaker 1: think it's a fork in the road game, but a
Speaker 1: pervoc game for the Raiders. Are you legitimate? Can you
Speaker 1: beat the Super Bowl champions? And the Bullies? The end
Speaker 1: boss of the a f C West like it since
Speaker 1: John Elway has been in the chair. The Broncos defense.
Speaker 1: This is if we say that the Browns defense against
Speaker 1: the Cowboys Russian attack is the most lopsided matchup. The
Speaker 1: best matchup of the week is a Raiders offensive line
Speaker 1: that allows the fewest sacks and the fewest quarterback hits
Speaker 1: against the Broncos pass rush that leads the league in
Speaker 1: sacks and quarterback hits and in fact has nine team
Speaker 1: more quarterback hits than any other team and more quarterback
Speaker 1: road more quarterback hits at mid season than any team
Speaker 1: since two thousand. Wow, they're pretty good, dog. I give
Speaker 1: the edge to the Broncos in this matchup. For that one,
Speaker 1: there is one issue. It sounds like a key to
Speaker 1: Leave is flying to California. James Palmer from NFL Network
Speaker 1: reported this to get his back looked at. And and
Speaker 1: they're saying now that he may not play that that
Speaker 1: is that's an issue. You still got a lot of talent,
Speaker 1: but that's you. You're missing so much and it's an issue.
Speaker 1: And yet this Broncos defense is so good that to
Speaker 1: Leave wasn't there last week and you wouldn't have known it.
Speaker 1: I mean, they they gave Philip Rivers more more trouble
Speaker 1: than he's had all year. And you mentioned that they
Speaker 1: just plug up Bradley Roby a first round picking to start,
Speaker 1: and they generate turnovers and they score points on defense too,
Speaker 1: and they need to keep doing They weren't facing Derek
Speaker 1: car last week and ascended superstar who could not be
Speaker 1: playing with more confidence right now. He just threw for
Speaker 1: five yards and four touchdowns without it interception, which has
Speaker 1: rarely happened in the history of the league. I wonder, uh,
Speaker 1: if as good as the Broncos are with the confidence
Speaker 1: playing in their building in prime time, that the Raiders
Speaker 1: are gonna put some points on the board in this game.
Speaker 1: Would it be crazy. It's fair to ask. I mean,
Speaker 1: Marii Cooper Michael Crabtree, is this the best duo in
Speaker 1: the league right now? Statistically? It is? What a what
Speaker 1: a great matchup? I mean, it's it's a treat when
Speaker 1: those when the Broncos defense is going up against the
Speaker 1: Raiders offense. I wouldn't be surprised though, if the Broncos
Speaker 1: win this game on the road. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: think the Raiders are are a great team right now.
Speaker 1: I think Derek Carr is playing really well. They're not
Speaker 1: They're not a great team. I don't think they I
Speaker 1: don't think they would call themselves a great team. I
Speaker 1: think that they they're very much reflection of their coach
Speaker 1: right now. And you know, for all these teams that
Speaker 1: don't want to take bold moves at the end of games,
Speaker 1: the Raiders are here because of that personality, which is
Speaker 1: admirable and enjoyable to watch. But they do have a
Speaker 1: lot of talented young players, and I think that they're
Speaker 1: this isn't a fluke record, but they have they have flaws.
Speaker 1: I love that they're in primetime three of the next
Speaker 1: five weeks because I think they're a fun team. I
Speaker 1: feel like they haven't been a lot. No, they haven't.
Speaker 1: They haven't had meaningful primetime games later this season, and
Speaker 1: they were a junk operation before about last season. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if they run it pretty well. You
Speaker 1: would think they're running game is somewhat of a weakness.
Speaker 1: And yet they're six in the league and yards per
Speaker 1: carry between DeAndre Washington and Richard and Murray, they could
Speaker 1: run it on the Bronco. Let's pick this game with
Speaker 1: the score mark Wow, Broncos one overtime Broncos. That would
Speaker 1: be three straight overtime games. Why not? This is what
Speaker 1: the Raiders are Bronco and regulation. Broncos Regulation feeling a
Speaker 1: lot of pressure. Broncos twenty one in overtime, a walk
Speaker 1: off safety. Along this note, real quick, Sidney pointed out
Speaker 1: before the show's Site Unseen West and I to send
Speaker 1: our picks for every game for our NFL Network vehicle
Speaker 1: that we're on and Site Unseen West and I picked
Speaker 1: every single game the same way. The kissing Cousins, ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen run the same way. Raiders fans are not
Speaker 1: gonna be happy that we just went four across on
Speaker 1: the Broncos. When they have an offense that hasn't had
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty yards I think since Week three,
Speaker 1: Like they have no running game in Simeon's they haven't
Speaker 1: a lot of three D yard passer and along. I
Speaker 1: love the Raiders, you know, I I backed them for
Speaker 1: Team of a TL, but ultimately, you know it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a tough game. I think the Broncos come out
Speaker 1: on on top. We'll see how it plays out. Finally,
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, Oh yes, Monday Night Football. The Buffalo Bills,
Speaker 1: who you know, they've come down to earth a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's been a roller coaster season for wreck, who was
Speaker 1: kind of in the tank at owned two than one
Speaker 1: fourth straight, but now I've lost two in a row.
Speaker 1: Weren't very competitive against the Patriots, which maybe wasn't a
Speaker 1: very good sign, especially in their own building, and now
Speaker 1: they got to travel to Seattle. I mean, does it?
Speaker 1: Does it just be where the Bills playing like monster
Speaker 1: teams every week this season? It has not been an
Speaker 1: easy schedule for them, but they got to figure out
Speaker 1: a way to get it done. And Greg, I guess
Speaker 1: it comes down to me, what who are the Seahawks
Speaker 1: at this stage? Especially on offense. They're working some things out.
Speaker 1: I thought they would be a lot better throwing the
Speaker 1: football than they are. I mean, it's amazing that Richardson
Speaker 1: and lock It, who I thought would be a big
Speaker 1: part of their offense, I think, have combined for about
Speaker 1: three hundred yards between them. Lock It is essentially a
Speaker 1: fourth receiver for them. This is a tough matchup too.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Bills aren't a great defense. They're not
Speaker 1: a shutdown defense. But at this point, if you're a Saint,
Speaker 1: if you're a Seahawks offense, it scores thirteen points in
Speaker 1: the super Dome, it's like you can't count on scoring
Speaker 1: against anyone. Yeah. I think that their philosophy has been
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson and Tom Cable can overcome our lack of
Speaker 1: investment in the offensive line. And what they weren't planning
Speaker 1: on was they have an injured Russell Wilson playing all
Speaker 1: year and he's not the same quarterback when he can't
Speaker 1: move because his best asset is his elusiveness. That's completely
Speaker 1: taken off the board when he plays now. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: nineteen quarterbacks in the league have more ground yardage than
Speaker 1: Wilson right now, and it's absolutely translated game to game
Speaker 1: his escapability in past seasons. You know, they say he
Speaker 1: doesn't have a touchdown in in three straight games. A
Speaker 1: lot of that has to do with where drives are
Speaker 1: ending and where they're finishing with Russell Wilson, because he
Speaker 1: used to create these opportunities and get into the red
Speaker 1: zone with his incredible, you know ability on his feet,
Speaker 1: and they don't have that this season. It's they're limited,
Speaker 1: but I certainly do not give up on this offense
Speaker 1: yet because we've seen them redefined themselves. This to me
Speaker 1: is the most interesting, one of the most interesting and
Speaker 1: games of the entire week because Buffalo has won me
Speaker 1: back over in terms of being a team that, yeah,
Speaker 1: throw any of these any no matter what their schedule is,
Speaker 1: they seem to come in every week they come into play.
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy is healthy. It sounds like this week the
Speaker 1: way they managed that was obviously a disaster. But if
Speaker 1: McCoy can be what he was a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: then this game is absolutely competitive. You would think it's
Speaker 1: a defense first type of game. I mean, I can't
Speaker 1: see either one of these teams. Tyrod Taylor in their
Speaker 1: passing game is very limited I mean that's not so
Speaker 1: to try to go against Seattle. Even without Michael Bennett,
Speaker 1: who they who they missed, and Camp Chancellor who they
Speaker 1: definitely miss they still got players Stephan Bobby Wagner is
Speaker 1: playing as well as he ever has. Earl Thomas looks
Speaker 1: like two. Cliff Aver is on fire. Cliff Favor of
Speaker 1: the last two weeks is you know, the best defensive
Speaker 1: player in the league. Building a whole neighborhoods in Haiti
Speaker 1: or the line should have resigned Cliff Avor. It's in
Speaker 1: a while about wrote about six articles about that kJ
Speaker 1: Right is always the forgotten man, and he has made
Speaker 1: a couple of plays where he stopped to tackle just
Speaker 1: sort of first down where they might be two and
Speaker 1: four if not for some kJ Right plays. I know
Speaker 1: that we don't like looking back over the years. It's
Speaker 1: certain compiled records, but I do think it's notable that
Speaker 1: under Pete Carroll against some good competition they are nine
Speaker 1: and one in primetime games, that that he prepares them
Speaker 1: well for that, and you can't Rex Ryan has had
Speaker 1: some real up and down fairs on on on Monday
Speaker 1: night and Sunday Night football, so that is advantage Seahawks.
Speaker 1: I like to look back over compiled records for you well,
Speaker 1: and when you do it, it's relevant. In some cases
Speaker 1: we would say don't go there. Um. I just want
Speaker 1: to say that that that is not unanimous, and I
Speaker 1: thought it was important to let the public know. People
Speaker 1: like it, some people don't. When the Bills using the
Speaker 1: Royal we there in a big spot, that's all. When
Speaker 1: the Bills lose this game, I hope they don't make
Speaker 1: excuses and refused to give credit like they did last
Speaker 1: week when Ronk kicked them up and down the field
Speaker 1: and they said he was a byproduct of Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: which is one of the most ridiculous sentiments I've ever
Speaker 1: heard of football player. Set yeah, own up. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the same franchise that when Rex Ryan loses
Speaker 1: the Dion Lewis, he tries to diminish Lewis as a
Speaker 1: player instead of giving credit. Right, especially cherished son of
Speaker 1: Buffalo Rob Gronkowski, who had gone home to stick it
Speaker 1: in the Bill's eyes stick in the year Buffalo. Is
Speaker 1: he a psychopath? He rabs a little crazy all right.
Speaker 1: By the way, a reminder, we do have a presence
Speaker 1: on a new NFL network program. It's called NFL Pick Him,
Speaker 1: and you could catch it three times on Saturday in
Speaker 1: early Sunday morning eight thirty am. These are all Eastern
Speaker 1: times twelve thirty pm. And then again you get a little,
Speaker 1: a little tipsy, get a little banged up, and then
Speaker 1: you come home with the couch or uh in your
Speaker 1: bed with your lady or your gentlemen, and then you
Speaker 1: watch the one thirty am show. I mean, would this
Speaker 1: be a show that if you watch this, if you
Speaker 1: watched all three episodes, which would be exactly the same,
Speaker 1: that you would you know, like a good movie, you'd
Speaker 1: see new elements, new things, new plot twists when you're
Speaker 1: in Yeah, it's like the eternal sunshine of the spotless Mind,
Speaker 1: but a television show. When you're in bed at one
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning on a Saturday, you definitely want
Speaker 1: some Dave damage check in your life. And thirty Pacific though,
Speaker 1: that's a nice time spot. And you know I'll be
Speaker 1: checking it out as I get into bed. And for
Speaker 1: you people overseas, listen, you got WestEd. You have banged
Speaker 1: in a big spot here. You know what the I think.
Speaker 1: If you got NFL game Pass, you can watch NFL
Speaker 1: network live on it. You can figure out, you know,
Speaker 1: you'd have to do some or some some math with
Speaker 1: your time zone or reorganize your entire family plan if
Speaker 1: you live overseas, move them over somewhere in the States,
Speaker 1: pick up your life at that point, just simply to
Speaker 1: get this show, which may not even exist another for now.
Speaker 1: Get your VCR out of the addict, have somebody hook
Speaker 1: it up for you over in the States, recorded overnight
Speaker 1: it overseas back to you. Send the VCR tape, Send
Speaker 1: the tape. Make sure you have a VCR. People still
Speaker 1: have VCRs and that instead of throwing them away. One
Speaker 1: note down down in Australian those parts of the world,
Speaker 1: they use a different type of VCR tape actually, so
Speaker 1: you need to get them every ounterpart to buy all
Speaker 1: the equipment, which seems seamless. I would say, go on
Speaker 1: the internet for all that stuff. Where also, we might
Speaker 1: be working on some type of periscope situation as well
Speaker 1: with the show. Just putting that out nothing settled yet,
Speaker 1: but we're we want to make sure we get all
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Speaker 1: it for Thursday nights edition of the Round the NFL podcast.
Speaker 1: The next time you hear from us, it will be
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