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Speaker 1: Rob grand Cat Skin. Welcome back to another edition to
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis,
Speaker 1: and I am joined by a room filled with heroes,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Roseatal. What's up boys,
Speaker 1: Hey Dan? Wow? Well, it's so great to have a
Speaker 1: nice slate of games on this Sunday. The NFL rightly too,
Speaker 1: is taking a lot of heat, and the first month
Speaker 1: and a half two months of the season, uh, and
Speaker 1: last Sunday was maybe the NADER in turn a lot
Speaker 1: of ways for the games. But this week, especially a
Speaker 1: couple of games in particular, we got back to some
Speaker 1: competitive pig Skin and I like it. Stepping up their game.
Speaker 1: Football is with World Series is competition. Yeah, the end
Speaker 1: of the early games was thrilling, and then I liked
Speaker 1: that at the in the afternoon. Just two games, but
Speaker 1: they're both outstanding matchups. They both come down to the end.
Speaker 1: Good day for football, Good day for football. A lot
Speaker 1: of games. Mark looks like he disagrees. Mark, Okay, I am.
Speaker 1: I am still gathering my thoughts. After a pre pod
Speaker 1: conversation where Greg acknowledges and we talk about Greg maybe
Speaker 1: having no childhood, which I would defend the opposite way
Speaker 1: that he must have been a child at some point.
Speaker 1: Has never heard of the Hardy Boys. I don't know
Speaker 1: what they dress like. I just know there's something that exists.
Speaker 1: I never I never read Unbelievable Peel Back the Curtain.
Speaker 1: This is because at the Halloween party last night, Mark
Speaker 1: came dressed as the Hardy Boys, which is what he's
Speaker 1: dressed as right now. I wore this last night to
Speaker 1: a Halloween party because I don't have it went well.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna get into it. Greg does
Speaker 1: not know who the Hardy Boys are. I don't understand
Speaker 1: what this show is about or what the cast of
Speaker 1: this show is about at this point. But I don't
Speaker 1: know what is the Hardy Boys thing with you. Did
Speaker 1: your dad write the books or something? I don't understand
Speaker 1: why you're so upset about it. I don't even go there, Dan,
Speaker 1: dad did write the He did not write the books.
Speaker 1: I just think that there is a major major block
Speaker 1: missing from Greg's early life experiences to have no idea
Speaker 1: what this historic. Dan has not read them, that's fine,
Speaker 1: but he's heard of them. Yeah, him well now you
Speaker 1: are back. No, they dressed like two thousand tens businessmen.
Speaker 1: That's strange. But even they didn't even give him modern
Speaker 1: tens the decade. All right, let's stock football, all right,
Speaker 1: we can work through this hardy boys situation. Mark go ahead, alright, alright, Gregg,
Speaker 1: you're on your own on this one. I don't know
Speaker 1: what happens. More of a Matt Christopher guy. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: here we go. So we got a lot of games,
Speaker 1: get to not as many as usual as we said.
Speaker 1: It is the uh UM six bye week teams on
Speaker 1: by this week. But still we're gonna talk about eleven games.
Speaker 1: And why don't we start, guys with what was the
Speaker 1: game of the day. I think a lot of people agree.
Speaker 1: And it happened in the Georgia Dome between two uh
Speaker 1: NFC giants. Is that's shaping up this season? Uh and
Speaker 1: it had a scintillating ending under a minute to go
Speaker 1: Green Bay, Brian to snap, Matt looks end zone, cat
Speaker 1: Sanu touch down at Ladda. Any questions about the guts
Speaker 1: and number two Now he gave him too much time
Speaker 1: and he found Sanu. Sanu has been the mismatch in
Speaker 1: the middle of the field all day, big time catch
Speaker 1: from Mohammed Sanou West Durham and Dave Archer of w
Speaker 1: z g C. Matt Ryan's eleven yard scoring hook up
Speaker 1: with most saw captain eleven place seventy five yard drive
Speaker 1: in Atlanta's final possession. The difference in the falcons thirty
Speaker 1: three to thirty two win over the Green Bay Packers
Speaker 1: at the Georgia Dome. What's that sounds? Somebody locked it up?
Speaker 1: Who was it? It's me Rosie Rockland up nice Chris
Speaker 1: Westling and Rogers was at his best on Sunday. But
Speaker 1: it was not enough. Was it was not enough? Rogers
Speaker 1: locked it up? Oh it was. I thought it was
Speaker 1: his best all around performance in September of two thousand fifteen,
Speaker 1: when people forget that he started out so strong last
Speaker 1: year before he fell apart at the end of the season.
Speaker 1: He was on point with his passes. He was electric
Speaker 1: with his legs in the pocket, uh creating space to
Speaker 1: get throws off. And he's doing it with receivers like
Speaker 1: Trevor Davis, Jeff Janis, uh Ronimo Allison, guys not a
Speaker 1: real person. Guys who weren't a part of this offense
Speaker 1: and two of those guys the rookies first career passes
Speaker 1: in Green Bay that was today, and I think it
Speaker 1: says something that he was able to accomplish that with
Speaker 1: guys like Randall cob Out, Eddie Lazy, James Starks, Jared Cook,
Speaker 1: Tie Montgomery, and the offense is better. Is it crazy
Speaker 1: to think that maybe they could use a little fresh
Speaker 1: blood to to work in some of these guys. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying you got a bench Jordy Nelson, Randall cop
Speaker 1: I'm saying get some of these young guys into the
Speaker 1: mix a little more in certain packages. Well, I think
Speaker 1: Trevor Davis and Jeff Janis are probably the two fastest
Speaker 1: players in their offense, and maybe that does help when
Speaker 1: you have speed on the outside green Bay's offen I
Speaker 1: mean the guys in the rushing attack, Aaron Ripkowski, who
Speaker 1: Don Jackson, Nile Davis, Aaron Rodgers was also the leading
Speaker 1: rushier in this game. So he did it all. Greg.
Speaker 1: But Atlanta Falcons, even though they lost the prior two weeks,
Speaker 1: you had said on last week's show that it didn't
Speaker 1: change how you felt about him. Then they deliver a
Speaker 1: performance like this that against screams to you that this
Speaker 1: team is going to be relevant in January. They are
Speaker 1: among the most consistent teams in the NFL. Now that
Speaker 1: that's good and bad. They have consistently given up a
Speaker 1: lot of points. They're not a good defense, and that's
Speaker 1: gonna hurt them if that doesn't change. But to win
Speaker 1: this game and a come from behind fashion right at
Speaker 1: the end, after the heartbreak of that Seahawks game, which
Speaker 1: I think they deserve, to win that heartbreak of the
Speaker 1: Chargers game last week, this would have would have been
Speaker 1: a tough one to swallow. And so to get a
Speaker 1: big win at home against another NFC contender, I think
Speaker 1: that's huge. I think it keeps them there obviously the
Speaker 1: NFC South favorite. What did you see, Mark, Well, this
Speaker 1: is a team last year that when they got out
Speaker 1: to the six and oh start, I think it was
Speaker 1: fair if you were watching them a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: after that. Is this team for real? There seemed to
Speaker 1: be a lot about it that was smoking mirrors. It's
Speaker 1: the complete opposite. It's the complete opposite this season to
Speaker 1: go back home after two straight losses, two losses, the
Speaker 1: loss of Seattle. As Greg mentioned, I think that the
Speaker 1: last four weeks against Carolina, Denver, and Seattle, and the
Speaker 1: Chargers proved to you that this team is built to
Speaker 1: go the distance despite their weaknesses. They're gonna be around
Speaker 1: to the end of the season through the class of
Speaker 1: the division. And I don't care who's on the field
Speaker 1: for Green Bay. This is a huge win that before
Speaker 1: the season, no one would have given to Atlanta the
Speaker 1: difference this year. Last year it was all Julio Jones
Speaker 1: and that's all they had this year. In a game
Speaker 1: where Tevin Coleman sits out and Julio Jones was hobbled
Speaker 1: in the second quarter he twisted his ankle. Only have
Speaker 1: one target in the second half, Mohammed Sanu five catches
Speaker 1: for fifty yards and a touchdown on the game winning drive.
Speaker 1: Taylor Gabriel up and up. Taylor Gabriel with a beautiful
Speaker 1: long TD with a brilliant Matt Ryan pass and Austin
Speaker 1: Hooper their tight end. I believe only had six catches
Speaker 1: coming into this game and have five on the afternoon.
Speaker 1: They have so many different directions for Matt Ryan to
Speaker 1: go with the ball. This is most news best game.
Speaker 1: Ten targets, nine catches, eighty four yards that touchdown and
Speaker 1: like Wes said, when the Chips are down to Julio
Speaker 1: Jones only targeted five times, obviously, wasn't right that they
Speaker 1: could still win the game. And I think you have
Speaker 1: to look at coaching most A new scores the game
Speaker 1: winning touchdown on a play where they essentially move inside,
Speaker 1: they kind of expect a zone defense, They switch it up,
Speaker 1: they get him matched up on Jake Ryan, who's not
Speaker 1: going to be able to cover him, And to me,
Speaker 1: that's Kyle Shanahan, that's Matt Ryan getting him in a
Speaker 1: position to win the game. Whereas I don't know if
Speaker 1: the Packers offense would would be able to do that.
Speaker 1: They would be expecting their guys to just make some plays.
Speaker 1: Was there that we've talked about Atlanta getting more pass
Speaker 1: rush week after week and it looks like they had
Speaker 1: three sacks today. Does that actually tell the tale of
Speaker 1: what happened? Aaron Rodgers had a lot of time to
Speaker 1: work as always, and he a lot of the man coverage.
Speaker 1: The Falcons want to be his own team, but they
Speaker 1: switched up to some man and in those situations, Rogers
Speaker 1: took off for a lot of big rushes. He had
Speaker 1: a career high sixty rushing yards today. If you want
Speaker 1: to strain hard enough. The two bright spot spots on
Speaker 1: the Falcons defense at pass rush, Adrian Clayborne and Vic
Speaker 1: Beasley combined for ten sacks over the last four games.
Speaker 1: But they're still giving up twenty six or more points
Speaker 1: in seven or eight games this year. And that last
Speaker 1: minute drive at least they got some pressure on Rogers
Speaker 1: when when the Chips were down. Let's check in with
Speaker 1: another matchup between big time NFC squads. Third down and
Speaker 1: goal from the one from out of the wing eye
Speaker 1: hand off. Stewarts two tackles and then he booke another tackle.
Speaker 1: That's just a little bust throwing right there. Uh that
Speaker 1: call is Mike Nixon and Eugene Robinson of w BT.
Speaker 1: The Panthers lew the doors off the Cardinals early in
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game last January. Sunday's rematch was more
Speaker 1: the same. Jonathan Stewart had two touchdowns on the ground,
Speaker 1: Arizona was unable to dig out of a huge first
Speaker 1: half hole a thirty to twenty Panthers win in Charlotte. Oh,
Speaker 1: we're locking it up again. The old Juser locks one up.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, it's all turning around with a lock of
Speaker 1: the league. He locked it up. I locked it up. Greg. Yes,
Speaker 1: the stats don't show it, but Cam played like an
Speaker 1: m v P in this one. I thought he was
Speaker 1: sensational in the first half of the game. Don't love
Speaker 1: how they sat on the lead. But he finishes with
Speaker 1: two twelve yards, no passing touchdowns, forty three yards rushing.
Speaker 1: But the quality of some of these throws was similar
Speaker 1: really to the play he had against New Orleans right
Speaker 1: before the bye, when I thought he played fantastic, and
Speaker 1: having Jonathan Stewart back, they really made a point to
Speaker 1: run Cam Newton, to do the zone read, to have
Speaker 1: their multifaceted running game, and it all worked. They look
Speaker 1: they loaded up a twenty four to nothing start and
Speaker 1: the Cardinals really couldn't do anything on offense until until
Speaker 1: the game felt like it was over. Is it actually
Speaker 1: a game that was I asked you one point, you
Speaker 1: know what's going on in this thing? Because you're over
Speaker 1: there covering and I'm looking at the early score when
Speaker 1: they're you know, piling up points. Did it resemble the
Speaker 1: NFC Championship game? Because I would say that how could it?
Speaker 1: Because this Cardinals team is so different than that team.
Speaker 1: It did for a half because an early turnover, which
Speaker 1: is similar I believe to the NFC Championship, came on
Speaker 1: this and this one was a shaky call. They called
Speaker 1: it a fumble on Carson Palmer, probably should have been
Speaker 1: an incomplete pass. But the thing that was similar is
Speaker 1: that the Panthers defense dominated up front, which they also
Speaker 1: did in the ANC Championship. They sent blitz after blitz
Speaker 1: after after Palmer they couldn't handle. Even when they weren't
Speaker 1: blitzing him, they were hitting him. I mean, he could
Speaker 1: not get a throw off for about five or six drives.
Speaker 1: Now they solve some things, but by then it's twenty
Speaker 1: four to nothing. I never really felt like this game
Speaker 1: was in doubt, although again the Panthers sat on it
Speaker 1: a little a little bit too much in the second half.
Speaker 1: Arizona's offensive line as a problem problem. There's the swagger
Speaker 1: just seems gone from this team, though, it's almost like
Speaker 1: they're starting from scratch now. Any any of the good
Speaker 1: will that was built up over the last year or
Speaker 1: two with this team. They are back to ground square one,
Speaker 1: and they got to figure out how to put this
Speaker 1: thing together before it's too late. Well, we talked about
Speaker 1: this on Thursday, that the entire NFC West has offensive
Speaker 1: line issues, and you want to talk about swagger disappearing,
Speaker 1: and and your ability to make big plays and to
Speaker 1: run the ball consistently disappearing. When your offensive line is
Speaker 1: breaking down, everyone starts to look two or three notches
Speaker 1: below where they were last year when everything went right
Speaker 1: for Arizona. Well, and I don't think there's anything wrong
Speaker 1: with Carson Palmer's arm. His arms looks as strong as
Speaker 1: ever to me, but he looks slower. He's not moving
Speaker 1: as well. And that's what happens with old quarterback. But
Speaker 1: they have most old quarterbacks except for, you know, for
Speaker 1: the guy who's not on a decline, not yet, Tom
Speaker 1: Brady yet, five year long prediction stands in the narrative
Speaker 1: they've they've had some they've had some common traits every game.
Speaker 1: They're not a good vertical team. The Cardinals, they're one
Speaker 1: of the worst. They didn't have a play over twenty
Speaker 1: yards in this game. And it's the first time I
Speaker 1: thought a team went out of their way. They're just saying,
Speaker 1: we're not gonna let David Johnson beat us, and they
Speaker 1: just loaded up to stop the run. They couldn't make
Speaker 1: them pay, and Carolina showed a little more confidence in
Speaker 1: their defense. And they're back end. Maybe don't wait for
Speaker 1: UH them to get pressure up front. They just sent
Speaker 1: blitz is like crety, very creative. Or it's the first
Speaker 1: team that's focused on David Johnson and being able to
Speaker 1: accomplish that's fair. UH. And we should talk about the
Speaker 1: reigning VP Cam Newton, who came out UH to the
Speaker 1: podium dressed in a ridiculous manner, but then had some
Speaker 1: very serious things to say about what he feels is
Speaker 1: just a lack of protection UH toward him and he
Speaker 1: needs the officials to be more accountable on that end.
Speaker 1: At times, I don't even feel safe and enough is enough?
Speaker 1: You know. I plan on talking to commission a good
Speaker 1: deal about this UM, but it's not fun and I
Speaker 1: don't know what I have to do. I just can't
Speaker 1: keep accepting, oh, we missed that one, or apologize for
Speaker 1: for doing that, or or or or what did I
Speaker 1: see it? That's horse crap when you're constantly seeing flags
Speaker 1: not being thrown and to see other quarterbacks getting it
Speaker 1: lesser hits, less less lesser physical hits than than it's
Speaker 1: taking the fun for me out, just being honest with that.
Speaker 1: What did you see Greg in this game? Well, he's
Speaker 1: a dent right on the play that he's really upset about,
Speaker 1: which is he's a play in the pocket where Klais
Speaker 1: Campbell goes low at him pretty well after he throws
Speaker 1: the ball. It was an inexcusable miss. I think they'll
Speaker 1: admit to Cam Newton there was no there was no
Speaker 1: debating whether it was a terrible no call, and it
Speaker 1: is the type of play it looked like he might
Speaker 1: have been seriously injured. Cam seems bionic, so he was fine,
Speaker 1: So I get him feeling like he's at the breaking
Speaker 1: point after that. You should have a buffer the why
Speaker 1: doesn't have to Why does he have to go to
Speaker 1: the podium and make this plea? He's correct in what
Speaker 1: he said, but I mean, you know, someone else on
Speaker 1: the team should be able to mount this for him.
Speaker 1: Tony Dude have the same comment on the pregame show
Speaker 1: for NBC Today that this should be something that comes
Speaker 1: from coming from his teammates, from the front office, from
Speaker 1: the coach. Well, instead Cam has to say it himself
Speaker 1: and then people use it against them. It puts him
Speaker 1: in a tough spot. Ron Rivera did say it after
Speaker 1: the season opener. He compared to treatment to Shack and
Speaker 1: and I think it's fine for Cam to be a
Speaker 1: squeaky wheel here. Get the grease, go get those calls,
Speaker 1: because it's not fair that they wrap him differently than
Speaker 1: they wrap other quarterbacks. Uh. Let's move on and take
Speaker 1: a look at the other team that played in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year, the Rivers from They gone back
Speaker 1: to pass short dump off over the meddal Andy. It's
Speaker 1: deflected and picked off, picked off by Denver running down
Speaker 1: the left sideline, untouched to the ends. Bradley Roby fifty
Speaker 1: one yards on the return. Robie off the deflection, pick
Speaker 1: this one off just past midfield and takes it all
Speaker 1: the way to the house. Dave Logan ko A. Bradley
Speaker 1: Roby's forty nine yard pick six in the second quarter
Speaker 1: gave the Broncos a lead they never relinquish. The final.
Speaker 1: The final uh A nine victory for the defending Super
Speaker 1: Bowl champs, Mark Sessler. The Broncos once again leaned on
Speaker 1: They're tried and true formula, smothering defense and just enough
Speaker 1: offense to get the job done. Yeah, this game had
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything, especially from uh Denver's defense.
Speaker 1: So three interceptions at one point of Rivers. I mean
Speaker 1: they they absolutely did everything they could there Part two,
Speaker 1: you know, get into Rivers head and and and you
Speaker 1: know get unseat this Chargers offense. And the Charges still
Speaker 1: found a way as they have done in every game
Speaker 1: to make this say, last possession game, driving right down
Speaker 1: to the end with a chance to to tie the
Speaker 1: game potentially. But four sacks and thirteen hits on Rivers
Speaker 1: Denver Denver's offense, though, I think that you want to
Speaker 1: look at a team that has issues potentially. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying that C. J. Anderson is a top five type
Speaker 1: running back, but you felt his absence in this game,
Speaker 1: and the ground game really was not respected. I mean
Speaker 1: Davante Booker, he came on late in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: but had about twenty eight yards going you know, through
Speaker 1: three quarters of play. And if you're Denver and you
Speaker 1: can't run the ball and you have to force Trevor
Speaker 1: Simeon to throw the ball and get you out of jams.
Speaker 1: At one point they went, you know, multiple drives, tons
Speaker 1: of punts and not making any points out of it.
Speaker 1: And San Diego's defense which I think has a lot
Speaker 1: of exciting factors to it. Joey Bosa on that young
Speaker 1: linebacking crew made it hard on Denver. I don't think
Speaker 1: the score is completely indicative of of of what really
Speaker 1: went on here because both offenses struggled. It was a
Speaker 1: fun game, you said it. It had a little bit
Speaker 1: of everything. Sloppy at times in terms of a lot
Speaker 1: of turnovers, especially inside the red zone. I mean, the
Speaker 1: Broncos could feel like we should have blown them out
Speaker 1: because they fumbled twice when they were going in for scores.
Speaker 1: But then again the Chargers. One of they lost a
Speaker 1: pick six on a drop. They had another play where
Speaker 1: a receiver was a miscommunication with our old friend Griff
Speaker 1: Whalen Connor's buddy, and uh, the Chargers still get down
Speaker 1: inside the five at the end of the game and
Speaker 1: they couldn't get they couldn't get it done. They get
Speaker 1: the ball back to it's it's yet another week where
Speaker 1: we see the charge. There was a play here where
Speaker 1: Devonte Booker after a eight en turnover by the Chargers
Speaker 1: deep in their own territory, where DeVonta Booker was racing
Speaker 1: towards the end zone and was reaching out for the
Speaker 1: pylon to score and he lost the ball and it
Speaker 1: went back to San Diego. I think that changed this game.
Speaker 1: Had they punched that in, they would have been up
Speaker 1: and it would have been over at this point right
Speaker 1: and late in the second half. The Chargers have a
Speaker 1: knack of when it looks like they're out of it
Speaker 1: at that point, they go ninety eight yards, including three
Speaker 1: third and longs on that drive, including some places where
Speaker 1: Rivers gets just nailed. And they've had a knack of
Speaker 1: doing that. It's a tough thing to do in Denver.
Speaker 1: I saw the game a little bit differently in in
Speaker 1: the sense that I thought the Chargers were lucky, uh
Speaker 1: to be as close as they were at the end.
Speaker 1: I think a couple of things like that fumble, which
Speaker 1: you give Sanyo credit for, of course, but some certain
Speaker 1: plays that went down in this game where I feel
Speaker 1: like the Broncos. You play these two teams play in
Speaker 1: Denver ten times. I think the Broncos win eight times.
Speaker 1: I think they are a much better team all around.
Speaker 1: I'm a little gained them. Yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker 1: I just I thought that that San Diego wasn't quite
Speaker 1: in Denver's class, despite of being a one score game
Speaker 1: in the end. Trevor Simeon spooks me a little bit,
Speaker 1: especially when I think about the A F c UH
Speaker 1: and what maybe it's really Denver and Pittsburgh that it's
Speaker 1: down to them who's going to even have a chance
Speaker 1: to beat the Patriots. And I don't know if Trevor
Speaker 1: Simeon's gonna make enough plays. I didn't see a lot.
Speaker 1: I think that's the concern coming out of this. If
Speaker 1: Booker can't be a workhorse type back, because it's the
Speaker 1: opposite of Philip Rivers, where you strip everything away from
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and he's still in these games. That's maybe
Speaker 1: where Greg is coming from to the charge, is still
Speaker 1: found a way despite being the lesser team in this
Speaker 1: to still hang around. I don't think that's the mold
Speaker 1: with Trevor simeon On offense. He they they were five
Speaker 1: or fifteen and third down. You know, you just saw
Speaker 1: plays left on the field. And if they can't run
Speaker 1: the ball in a Gary Kubiak offense, they're going to
Speaker 1: rely on not just turnovers but pick sixes from the defense.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to do exactly what they did last year.
Speaker 1: Spice Rack Alert Melvin Gordon on for about rushing yards.
Speaker 1: He's running. Look at that, you look great. He's running
Speaker 1: so hard. He's a good receiver out of the backfield.
Speaker 1: He's running people over. The one thing that I think
Speaker 1: the Broncos can hold their hatn't. They're hitting big plays,
Speaker 1: you know, three four plays over thirty yards to Marius
Speaker 1: Thomas made an unbelievable catch. Sanders made an unbelievable catch.
Speaker 1: Like they have talent and they're letting Simeon go out
Speaker 1: there and put it. I mean the passing game. There
Speaker 1: were little moments where they needed a throw from him,
Speaker 1: like out of their own end zone, and he would
Speaker 1: connect on some tough throws. Let's check in on the
Speaker 1: throne of ease shot cup step Formadlock pretty steps up,
Speaker 1: Bros down the right side for Chrome makes the cuts
Speaker 1: to the tunny rock to the time, rock to the
Speaker 1: record book touched six Bob Sochi Yes, w bz in
Speaker 1: five the sports hud too much, Gronk, too much, Brady.
Speaker 1: The Patriots avenge a shutout loss earlier in the season
Speaker 1: by stopping the Buffalo Bills a forty one blowout. Uh West.
Speaker 1: The Patriots once again have run away with the ABC East.
Speaker 1: Even Rex, Uh, can you know, conceded as much after
Speaker 1: the game, and Tom Brady and this Pat's offense, they
Speaker 1: just look unstoppable. Rex said during the week, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I've ever seen Brady better, and then after
Speaker 1: the game he said, I don't think I've ever seen
Speaker 1: him hotter. Uh, And that's that's the deal. Brady is
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the inner NFL this year, and
Speaker 1: I think by a pretty wide margin. He's still on
Speaker 1: top of his game. His pocket movement is good. He's
Speaker 1: going down field more than he did the last couple
Speaker 1: of years. Rob Gronk, they just toy with teams until
Speaker 1: they unleashed Gronk, who is right now enjoying the best
Speaker 1: month of his career production wise, averaging eighteen yards per game.
Speaker 1: You look up and he's just it's thirty yard gain
Speaker 1: after thirty yard gain after thirty yard game. We're talking
Speaker 1: downstairs before we came up that It's almost like, if
Speaker 1: you if the Patriots wanted to, they could target Gronk
Speaker 1: twenty times and he could just be the most productive
Speaker 1: player in the history of the tight end position by
Speaker 1: a long shot. If he's not already that guy now.
Speaker 1: But it's almost like a quiet agreement between the teams
Speaker 1: and the Patriots that we will not rat you out
Speaker 1: as long as you just keep the targets to about
Speaker 1: seven or eight a game. I think, you know, I
Speaker 1: I see what, Dan. We saw the same exact thing
Speaker 1: against the Steelers last week. When it's something when the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh went in for a score that kept them close
Speaker 1: late in the game, and then as if they finally
Speaker 1: decided to say, you know what, let's teach Pittsburgh a lesson.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Legarrett Blunt and Robert Kowski just marched
Speaker 1: down the field and like four or five plays and
Speaker 1: score with these It was like an adult playing a child.
Speaker 1: And you know what, we can mask all this is
Speaker 1: what we want. But we're gonna go through a procession
Speaker 1: of other games that are utterly meaningless because this team
Speaker 1: is going straight to the super Bowl and what was
Speaker 1: your tweet alert? Three more days until the Patriots win
Speaker 1: the give me a break, because we're talking about, oh,
Speaker 1: can the Broncos hanging it? Well, they're gonna need to
Speaker 1: do a lot more to hang with this offense. The
Speaker 1: way they're moving. Listen, I don't think anybody's disagreeing with you.
Speaker 1: The Patriots, even Gregg Gregg doesn't want admit it, so
Speaker 1: he doesn't want of the reverse Jinx thing. But they
Speaker 1: are by They're the seven. They have never been a
Speaker 1: bigger favorite to come out of the APC them right now.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think it's great hash Jack canceled the
Speaker 1: Patriots hashtag say football, But that's just where we are
Speaker 1: right now. Do you guys want to hear what Gronk
Speaker 1: had to say about touchdown sixty nine? Sure, let's hear it.
Speaker 1: Maybe give a shout out to my mom too, because
Speaker 1: the first thing yesterday we should we sat down. I
Speaker 1: saw her. She came to my hotel. What everyone who
Speaker 1: shot down? She goes, Rob, I'm so proud of you
Speaker 1: when you score your sixty nine touchdown. So I was like,
Speaker 1: I gotta give her a shot out now for sure
Speaker 1: for letting me know. That's about his verbos. As you'll
Speaker 1: see or hear, Rob, I love that little giggle. He's
Speaker 1: like he's a little boy. He's a little boy, a
Speaker 1: little unstoppable boy. So yeah, just again, um, one thing
Speaker 1: I will say, the slight regression is coming. I don't know,
Speaker 1: it couldn't be going worse for you right now, except
Speaker 1: couldn't accept the l It couldn't. It could not be
Speaker 1: going worse. But again, everyone's geniuses in the moment and
Speaker 1: then everything can change two months from now. So just
Speaker 1: hanging there. The other part, the one thing I didn't
Speaker 1: take into account, and I will say this, I acknowledge
Speaker 1: this much. I didn't realize the a f C and
Speaker 1: really the NFL is gonna be so watered down this year,
Speaker 1: which is definitely playing playing in. Brady's stats are inflated
Speaker 1: by a water down in it. What kind of conspiracy
Speaker 1: are spinning here? A terrible, a terrible conference is He's
Speaker 1: got a passer rating of one thirty three point nine.
Speaker 1: His rates stats are better than his two thousand seven.
Speaker 1: I know, but I'm saying the competition is just not
Speaker 1: there and it's playing into his dominance. I could not
Speaker 1: disagree more. Okay, well that's fine, but I'm telling you
Speaker 1: that's what's going It's not the truth. I mean, I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I totally see the f C is watered down, but
Speaker 1: they could be could be. I have great teams and
Speaker 1: they have seen and Tom Brady, the Patriots and Mo
Speaker 1: right through all of them. Many A teams this year,
Speaker 1: but Tom Brady doesn't Bills are who he's playing. The
Speaker 1: Bills were a good defense, I don't think the Bills
Speaker 1: can talk about being one of the best. They shot
Speaker 1: down Jacob I. I don't think they can talk about
Speaker 1: being one of the better defenses in the league after
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. I'm I'm more concerned that the
Speaker 1: picked on today right the way they gave up that
Speaker 1: lead to Miami and then you know, just getting drugged
Speaker 1: like this. You're not in a top level. You just
Speaker 1: got stamped for two hundred yards rushing last week by
Speaker 1: a running back that was essentially made an active week
Speaker 1: to week a month ago, and now you've been destroyed
Speaker 1: by New England the second time in a row. They
Speaker 1: need to come McCoy healthy. They're not. They're in it
Speaker 1: there they need to. They're probably happy roughly with where
Speaker 1: they are four and fourth and some things to build.
Speaker 1: Next week they go to Seattle. Yeah, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is an eight or nine one team. I mean, and
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's enough to keep Rex Ryan employed,
Speaker 1: but that seems to be where they're heading. But the
Speaker 1: Patriots are seven and one, and if everything holds through
Speaker 1: this regular season season. There's no doubt in my mind
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady should be the m v P here
Speaker 1: because they say the same Patriots team got shut out,
Speaker 1: uh sixteen nothing when Brady didn't play, and then Brady
Speaker 1: comes on and they throw up. I just think, you know,
Speaker 1: second year in a row they've stamped the Bills with
Speaker 1: forty plus points. I mean, come on, I just think
Speaker 1: it's worth noting the NFL season is long. He has
Speaker 1: played four games in two thousand seven. They had a
Speaker 1: ridiculous run. The first ten or eleven games. They were
Speaker 1: absolutely a different team the last seven or eight. Last year,
Speaker 1: at this time, we would have thought it was preposterous.
Speaker 1: Everyone thought the Broncos were a total joke, that there's
Speaker 1: no way they're going to take out the picture. It
Speaker 1: happens like we don't joke, But we didn't think that
Speaker 1: they were gonna be If he simmers down, they'll find
Speaker 1: other ways to put up thirty points again. That's what
Speaker 1: they do well. Last year was they were unstoppable. They
Speaker 1: were averaging about thirty eight points a game through ten weeks,
Speaker 1: and then they had an unreal string of injuries that
Speaker 1: involved their offensive line, their wide receiver corps, their backfield,
Speaker 1: every area was injured and that hasn't happened yet this year.
Speaker 1: But now you're getting point it could happen. You're getting
Speaker 1: Dion Lewis back. It's the opposite this year. They've been
Speaker 1: very James White long season. That's all I'm saying. James
Speaker 1: White dropped a wide open touchdown in this game, too,
Speaker 1: would have been number five for Brady In this game,
Speaker 1: there was a um uh for an object thrown onto
Speaker 1: the field in this game. I don't know how much
Speaker 1: more we can say about it. A foreign object thrown
Speaker 1: onto the field almost hit um Kevin Hope. It was
Speaker 1: a pink fallas Yeah, something like that person throwing and
Speaker 1: maybe why do they don't need anymore? Apparently this is
Speaker 1: that it was a buffalo, correct, right, it was the
Speaker 1: Chris I just threw it at Chris Hogan, like if
Speaker 1: you're gonna leave, we're gonna throw uh Chris Hogan revenge. Wait?
Speaker 1: How many how many yards did that have to be
Speaker 1: chucked to get on the field. It appeared to well,
Speaker 1: if you watch the replay, it didn't come straight down
Speaker 1: from the stands. It appeared to bounce and come almost
Speaker 1: laterally into the future. At no point this season have
Speaker 1: has Mark West and I huddle the round a computer
Speaker 1: and watched a football play in slow motion. But the
Speaker 1: second this happened, we were around there like it was
Speaker 1: there a Prouder film. It was the best throw by
Speaker 1: the Bills all day. All right, one, Let I want
Speaker 1: to double back to the previous game. We should have
Speaker 1: touched on a. Wade Phillips, son of Bum got run
Speaker 1: over on the sideline, uh in the Denver game today
Speaker 1: and was actually carted off the field taken to the hospital.
Speaker 1: Gary Kubiak said, up to the game while the tests
Speaker 1: everything checked out, and uh, they anticipate him rejoining the
Speaker 1: team shortly. Great news, because we love the son of Bum.
Speaker 1: Here at the Round the NFL Podcast, Let's move on
Speaker 1: to a inter conference matchup Outer showing Gwitz they're gonna
Speaker 1: bring to Vante David Card throws cat Seth Roberts. Fine
Speaker 1: text writers, I walk off from Seth Roberts to win
Speaker 1: the game. I see you a Little debby Greg Papa
Speaker 1: kg MZ. Black Jack del Rio strikes again. With time
Speaker 1: running out in overtime and the Raiders facing a fourth
Speaker 1: and fourth from near near midfield. Jack del Rio put
Speaker 1: the ball in the hands of his young star quarterback,
Speaker 1: and Derek Carr did not disappoint, connecting with Seth Roberts
Speaker 1: and a walk off touchdown, securing a thirty to four win.
Speaker 1: A thriller. Greg Rosenthal, the Red Raiders said an NFL
Speaker 1: record with twenty three penalties and still won the game
Speaker 1: their five and oh on the road? Are you a
Speaker 1: believer in the Silver and Black, baby, I'm a believer
Speaker 1: that they can make the playoffs. I'm not a believer
Speaker 1: that they're one of the best six or seven teams
Speaker 1: in the league. Oh, but they're exciting, aren't they? Greg?
Speaker 1: They are? This is Al Davis if he if he's
Speaker 1: watching this somewhere, he could He couldn't be happier to
Speaker 1: set an NFL record in penalties in the same game.
Speaker 1: You throw for five and thirteen yard thirteen years you
Speaker 1: pushed the ball down the field. This is the most
Speaker 1: old school Raiders win possible. Do you do you believe
Speaker 1: that they're uh late game magic is predictive or do
Speaker 1: you believe it's mostly been luck? Is it repeatable? I
Speaker 1: think it can carry you through one season. Yes, that
Speaker 1: you have some mojo that you feel that that you're
Speaker 1: able to win these games late. I don't think it
Speaker 1: means you're a great team. The Bucks are not good.
Speaker 1: The Bucks were dominated in this game for the last
Speaker 1: three quarters. The Raiders should have won this game before.
Speaker 1: I know. I love that they lost to a team
Speaker 1: that right that that this game should have been over
Speaker 1: in terms of the Raiders winning it much longer before
Speaker 1: it was. I mean luck. But they're also taking risks
Speaker 1: when other teams do not, so I I factored that
Speaker 1: in and it well, that's exactly right. It comes from
Speaker 1: their coach deciding. You know, the league, the league's coaches
Speaker 1: are incredibly conservative. When you go play a video game
Speaker 1: or something, you you could say with your front we
Speaker 1: don't even punt all game. There's no punts. We're gonna
Speaker 1: do whatever comes up. The league's coaches couldn't be anymore
Speaker 1: the opposite. It's so it's an absolute huge standout story
Speaker 1: when one guy decides to go against the grain. It
Speaker 1: shouldn't be, but it is. At that point in the
Speaker 1: game there, like I said, near at midfield at that point, uh,
Speaker 1: facing fourth and four, enough time maybe to get a
Speaker 1: three and out, getting the ball back and take one
Speaker 1: more shot. At it, I would guess I would just
Speaker 1: throw it out there. Twenty twenty to twenty three of
Speaker 1: the NFL coaches would punt that ball or made to
Speaker 1: give Janikowski a shot at a sixty yard or even
Speaker 1: even if Janikowski had missed two from fifty and regulation
Speaker 1: many of the twenty three coaches, that's an interesting I
Speaker 1: think fewer. I think this call was almost as gutsy
Speaker 1: as going for two to win it, because if you
Speaker 1: don't get that fourth and four, Bucks are gonna blow down.
Speaker 1: They were confident that they could stop the Bucks, but
Speaker 1: the balls at midfield and you have a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes to get go twenty yards and try to set
Speaker 1: up a game, win a field, go So that that
Speaker 1: was a really gutsy call, and he has loved it.
Speaker 1: He has a great sense of his team because he
Speaker 1: did punt earlier in that overtime uh and it was
Speaker 1: the absolute right decision. He pinned the Bucks back. They
Speaker 1: got a three and out when they could have gone
Speaker 1: for it and at that point and he just pushes
Speaker 1: all the right buttons. Yeah. Khalil Mack. Pro Football Focus
Speaker 1: had him with two sacks, three hits and ten total
Speaker 1: hurries in this game. I think we said this in
Speaker 1: the off season, but who's got a better young trio
Speaker 1: for a nucleus than Derek Carrmari Cooper and Khalil Mack
Speaker 1: Greg Maybe we spoke a little too soon taking shots
Speaker 1: to Kalil macbeing in the Sunday Night Chat. It's more
Speaker 1: that he's just not a name name brand going into
Speaker 1: the game. Yeah before the Sunday Night game, the Oh
Speaker 1: Sunday Night song. Everybody knows pro at two different positions, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think heading into the season, he's certainly
Speaker 1: who you'd put on the SNF promo. But then their
Speaker 1: defense has been you know, suspected best. I like it
Speaker 1: when teams kind of fall to their level. The Bucks
Speaker 1: didn't deserve to win this game. They did score fourteen
Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter. They deserve a little credit
Speaker 1: for making a comeback, but they were out gained. This
Speaker 1: is why five to one fifty after they took a
Speaker 1: tendant to nothing lead. Is this Bucks team any better
Speaker 1: than they were under Lovey Smith. I understand they have injuries,
Speaker 1: but I mean similar This is an unwatchable team on
Speaker 1: many levels. A lot of pressure guys on your vikings
Speaker 1: to deliver on Monday night. Well, actually, Dan, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is why I could care less. Someone tweeted this
Speaker 1: and me and I just wrote back yawn, because Dan's
Speaker 1: tendency to just create controversy. Dan, you voted for the Vikings,
Speaker 1: so it's on you if you aren't happy with what
Speaker 1: you did. It's not on us. We don't need to
Speaker 1: prove anything to you or anyone else. And they are there,
Speaker 1: Roberto Guyo, this is an extra point here. This thing
Speaker 1: is probably over in regulation, Kings money. It's it's interesting
Speaker 1: that you voted for them and within ten minutes you're
Speaker 1: an absolute turncoat versus being a team player on the
Speaker 1: decision we made. It's revealing. It's it's interesting to see
Speaker 1: you see. Our podcast is like the w W E
Speaker 1: and you're just the marionette, you know, pulling the puppet strings.
Speaker 1: I will not apologize for some fun on the show. Guys.
Speaker 1: Dan is the Vince McMahon of our podcast. Uh, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, the Vikings, you know, deliver because the Raiders
Speaker 1: are saying we deserved it. Guys, Well, let's have the
Speaker 1: Vikings play the Jaguars and Buccaneers back to back and
Speaker 1: see how that goes, all right, let's say we're down Mark,
Speaker 1: it's just the al buddy. All right, let's move on
Speaker 1: fourth and two from the ten yard live. Here's Wilson
Speaker 1: throwing the faith and when it's going to be caught
Speaker 1: but out of the engine, Curse couldn't bring it in.
Speaker 1: Put two feet down and the Saints have won this game.
Speaker 1: It wasn't pretty, but the Saints defense gotta stop when
Speaker 1: it counted. Most On Sunday, Russell Wilson's final past sale
Speaker 1: just out of bounds and the Saints hung out for
Speaker 1: a twenty five to twenty win at the Superdome. Greg. Hey, Greg,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of twittering going on during and
Speaker 1: after this game about the officiating. How big a role
Speaker 1: did it play in there? That was big? The Seahawks
Speaker 1: had some calls going against him. I don't think it
Speaker 1: was warranted. The fifty tweets I got just mentioning something
Speaker 1: good that the Saints did in this game. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are there were a million plays the Seahawks could
Speaker 1: have made to win the game that they didn't make,
Speaker 1: So that that had nothing to do with the officials, right,
Speaker 1: tell us more? I think, uh Saints offense, what happened
Speaker 1: to mark Ingram. Mark Ingram got benched early in the game.
Speaker 1: He's not playing well. Tim Hi Tower runs hard. I
Speaker 1: think the Saints have made a really smart move the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. They're trying to limit possessions. They're
Speaker 1: trying to have long drives, short passes, run the ball.
Speaker 1: Each team only had nine possessions. Here kept the Saints
Speaker 1: defense off the field. They were very efficient. They scored
Speaker 1: six straight possessions. I know it's only twenty five points,
Speaker 1: but they play a different sort of arena league style
Speaker 1: type of game. It's like, you gotta limit the possessions.
Speaker 1: You gotta score every time the ball you have the ball.
Speaker 1: They did that six straight times, and they deserve to
Speaker 1: win this game. It seems like Thomas Sneydon cooks like
Speaker 1: last week, all got involved again. They did, and Richard
Speaker 1: Sherman had a big penalty in a big spot and
Speaker 1: Seahawks fans are honking about that, and that was an
Speaker 1: after fans honking. I was an absolutely deserved penalty on Sherman.
Speaker 1: When they finally showed a better replay a couple of
Speaker 1: minutes later, uh, it was a you know, the Saints team,
Speaker 1: I feel like they're not out of I feel like
Speaker 1: they're not out of it. Look at you, Greg, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but let's see that you're getting sucked in because again,
Speaker 1: in their building, they can hang with almost any team
Speaker 1: and they will probably win at least half the games
Speaker 1: at home, and maybe it will go five and three,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna go too and six or worse outside
Speaker 1: their building. I just do the math. That's that's the
Speaker 1: way this team is. It's a bad defense, but I
Speaker 1: think the offense is so good that they have a chance.
Speaker 1: They played against Kansas City last week and I thought
Speaker 1: they outplayed him for the most part. That's a tough place.
Speaker 1: They looked like an absolute playoff offense against Kansas City.
Speaker 1: I mean, but are we concerned about Seattle's offense officially
Speaker 1: at this point or is it No? They'll be fine.
Speaker 1: You know, we're entering week nine and you know you
Speaker 1: you you score six points against Arizona, you put up
Speaker 1: twenty against one of the worst defenses in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I would say as of mid season it's a concern,
Speaker 1: but we still think they're the heavy favorites to win
Speaker 1: at division and by the time the playoffs roll around,
Speaker 1: you would expect Russell Wilson to have some of his
Speaker 1: mobility back. Yeah, that that hurt him today. They weren't.
Speaker 1: They haven't been able to really establish Christen Michael now
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. I think he's running fine,
Speaker 1: but the running game just isn't working. It's not a
Speaker 1: great sign when Tanner McAvoy is hitting your biggest pass play.
Speaker 1: What about c J. Pro Sie. He must have hit
Speaker 1: a pretty good game. He he caught that pass from
Speaker 1: Tander McAvoy who threw him a forty five yard er.
Speaker 1: I mean that's great, But like, for instance, Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: last play of the game, Jermaine curse some people you know,
Speaker 1: questioning that play call. He's got him right there, one
Speaker 1: on one coverage against b W Webb. Give him a
Speaker 1: chance to make a play, not a great throw if
Speaker 1: they if he makes that throw, they win the game.
Speaker 1: And we're talking about the go Go Saint. I mean,
Speaker 1: connor Or talked about Procise as a mixture between Levy
Speaker 1: on Bell and Percy Harvin, a combination poor man's Harvin
Speaker 1: and Bell. That is interesting. Um. By the way, the
Speaker 1: call Jim Henderson w w L that's a great JAP
Speaker 1: freeze out ole Hendo in a big spot. Um, all right,
Speaker 1: let's move on, and you want to go to London
Speaker 1: one last time? Guys, Oh yeah, let's go to London
Speaker 1: one last time. This will be a thirty four yard
Speaker 1: field goal attempt to win it for the Redskins. Good snap,
Speaker 1: good hold, kicks on its way and over and it
Speaker 1: is no good Why to the left and we will
Speaker 1: continue with two oh nine to play here and over time.
Speaker 1: That was Tom McCarthy and some random fat guy w
Speaker 1: t e m espn uh lur own. Dustin Hopkins missed
Speaker 1: a thirty four yard field goal attempt and you just
Speaker 1: heard with less than three minutes to play in overtime,
Speaker 1: and that would be the closest either side got to
Speaker 1: breaking the deadlock in the final period. When time ran out,
Speaker 1: the Redskins and Bengals had played to a twenty seven
Speaker 1: twenty seven tie. At I was gonna say historic Wembley Stadium,
Speaker 1: but just a little bit of inside onto England, a
Speaker 1: place I've never been. They tore down the old Wembley.
Speaker 1: This is new Wembley Stadium, is it? So it's not historic?
Speaker 1: It's not historic, historic name same place, but yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like met MetLife was built in a parking lot across
Speaker 1: from Giant Stadium. Wasn't that No one's calling it his story?
Speaker 1: Maybe Yankee Stadium. That would have been a good historic metal.
Speaker 1: It is the second tie in as many weeks in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Go figure and Greg Dustin Hopkins. Yes he
Speaker 1: blew it, but he wasn't the only kicker wearing the
Speaker 1: gold horns in London, No, your boy the News, former
Speaker 1: second round pick Mike Newton, former second round pick still
Speaker 1: in the league, missed the field goal, missed an extra point,
Speaker 1: Both kickers, you know, both teams can feel like it
Speaker 1: was their kickers fault, but I think the fact that
Speaker 1: the Redskins moved the ball so well and Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: shut me up, Uh yeah, out playing Dandy Dalton by
Speaker 1: a significant amount. This was not a good time for
Speaker 1: Dalton to have what I think was his worst game
Speaker 1: of the season, a lot worse than than the stats show.
Speaker 1: And Cousins has been playing a lot better the last
Speaker 1: month after after a bad first month of the season.
Speaker 1: Big breakout season for Jamison Crowder in the slot there too.
Speaker 1: Every game he makes one or two killer plays and
Speaker 1: it's been going on all season. It's wild to think
Speaker 1: that this team with the Shan Jackson and Pierre Garson
Speaker 1: is really built now around Crowder Vernon Davis. And now
Speaker 1: that Jordan reads back, Jordan read, they're winning games with
Speaker 1: Crowder Davis and Chris Thompson and and I fault John J.
Speaker 1: Gruden here for setting up that kick. Okay, take us
Speaker 1: through a Greg. You were fired up about this when
Speaker 1: had happened. Second and four you got Robert Kelly, fat
Speaker 1: Rob as his friends call him. His team calls him
Speaker 1: Fat Rob, great nickname. Love it does he feel about that?
Speaker 1: He likes it. I think it goes all the way
Speaker 1: back to remember when the Texans kicker kicker was Fat Randy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Fat Rob's terrific. It reminds me also of Black Rob
Speaker 1: who had the classic like Woe great tune. We're allowed
Speaker 1: to reference artists anymore. So Second and four in overtime,
Speaker 1: Kelly is steamroll in this Bengals defense. They've been on
Speaker 1: the field the whole overtime, the end of regulation because
Speaker 1: Dalton couldn't move the ball at the end. And what
Speaker 1: do they do. They just have Kirk Cousins on second
Speaker 1: down go backwards into the side to set up a
Speaker 1: third down field goal. Why not try to score a touchdown?
Speaker 1: Why not run the ball a couple of times? I
Speaker 1: think they would have won the game. Remember, you play
Speaker 1: to win the game. Well, it's funny when you're funny
Speaker 1: that West brings up Herm Edwards because the famous and
Speaker 1: Jets lore two thousand four playoff game at Hines Field, Herm,
Speaker 1: instead trying to get the ball closer uh in overtime,
Speaker 1: settled for a Doug Brian forty six yard field goal
Speaker 1: which hit the goddamn crossbar. Uh and the Jets eventually
Speaker 1: lost that game. But here's the thing. That was a
Speaker 1: forty six yard in a hind seal. This is thirty
Speaker 1: four yarder. But what is the problem. You gotta put
Speaker 1: that through the upright, all right? What is more like
Speaker 1: your big boy Probert Kelly knowing the situation and fumbling
Speaker 1: the ball right there, or you missing that field goal?
Speaker 1: I think it's a lot higher that you're missing the
Speaker 1: field goal. And who do you want to leave the
Speaker 1: game up to? How about your offensive line that's getting
Speaker 1: it going. At the end of the game, they were
Speaker 1: moving the ball. Seeing as this is an international game,
Speaker 1: do you guys, uh want to hear something that happened
Speaker 1: after the game with a German sideline reporter caught up
Speaker 1: to uh, Dustin Hopkins. This was interesting, Dustin Hopkins, What
Speaker 1: went wrong by the kick? First of all, I'm just
Speaker 1: discussed that that happens for my guys. Take us happened
Speaker 1: in Redskins B B R flak saw Dustin Dustin Hopkins
Speaker 1: get uh, you know, taken to the side by this
Speaker 1: German sideline reporter and raced let's listen to it one
Speaker 1: more time now that you have a little context, raced
Speaker 1: over to Dustin Hopkins, shut down the interview, pushed the
Speaker 1: German reporter, and then the reporter just threw it back
Speaker 1: to the studio and in a stunned moment, the studio
Speaker 1: cracked up. The good composure there from the reporter pretty good,
Speaker 1: Dustin Hopkins. First of all, I'm just discussed that happens
Speaker 1: for my guys kind of interviews. I really recommend checking
Speaker 1: out the clip because the studio show looks like a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. A total plays on Dan's Twitter account.
Speaker 1: He sent it out if you wanted to look. In fact,
Speaker 1: I I did an end around post on an NFL
Speaker 1: dot com slash end around and uh, and their show,
Speaker 1: whatever that show is, immediately followed me and thanked me.
Speaker 1: Apparently that's like a fun kind of I don't know
Speaker 1: what it is. Apparently Germany has a television show about
Speaker 1: the NFL. That might have been the show that showed
Speaker 1: my tweets last week that somehow our listeners from Germany
Speaker 1: said some show in Germany was showing my tweets from
Speaker 1: the Jeff Fisher game. I'm a big fan of Germany. Right,
Speaker 1: gott an else any other content you two would like
Speaker 1: to out set up and backslap yourselves about. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen anybody that over eager on a football field since
Speaker 1: Jeff Triplett was racing to flag somebody for celebrating. Uh,
Speaker 1: yeah it's fair and yeah, so the Redskins pr guy
Speaker 1: was pissed. Also pissed Josh Norman, who's a T eight.
Speaker 1: I gotta know, I just gotta know who's official a
Speaker 1: T A. He sucked. I'm just gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be straight for he was terrible. I feel
Speaker 1: like he should be recommended. I feel like somebody plays there.
Speaker 1: It was going on out there. It was just I mean,
Speaker 1: it was terrible. This is how I'm feeling and how
Speaker 1: the team feels right now. So speaking on their behalf
Speaker 1: and need to be watched and recommended, they repommend us.
Speaker 1: So how come what's what's what's the recommended for them? Oh,
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna get reprimanded. And you know, I mean Josh
Speaker 1: Norman Gregg. What was that about five penalties in this
Speaker 1: game by Josh Norman? He wasn't happy arab dropped interceptions? Right?
Speaker 1: If a J if Andy Dalton threw the deep ball
Speaker 1: better in this game, a J. Green could have gone
Speaker 1: for about two twenty five, putting it overtime. If a J.
Speaker 1: Green comes down with a pass, they're they're they're cooking.
Speaker 1: But he couldn't the best receiver in the NFL. This Ye,
Speaker 1: why do we the ref the ref numbers? I mean,
Speaker 1: talk about something that has zero holding ability? Does anyone
Speaker 1: remember any ref by the number they wore? Did these
Speaker 1: guys have like the ref jerseys at home in a frame?
Speaker 1: Hey look at me nine one like kim me he's
Speaker 1: a best seller. Uh, let's move on, guys. More Inner
Speaker 1: conference action. Oss Wylder takes a low snap, He handles
Speaker 1: pocket holes, he throws, and he finds a why don't
Speaker 1: tuckling target c J. For Dorley's talk thought of his
Speaker 1: backside at the base of the t and Texans for
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and furiously spikes the ball as the Texans
Speaker 1: get the first score of the game. Six nothing twelve
Speaker 1: have a second quarter. Yes, The Houston Texans bounced back
Speaker 1: from an ugly primetime performance in Denver, getting two touchdown
Speaker 1: passes from brock Osweather or maybe one. I'm gonna check
Speaker 1: my work on the fly right now, guys, it was
Speaker 1: single touchdown, single touchdown past that one, the one you
Speaker 1: heard to c J. Fedora Witz in a win over
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions. Mark Sessler, Houston is a flawed team.
Speaker 1: We have a lock of the week that didn't go well.
Speaker 1: Who had this one? Well, Sunday has been an absolute
Speaker 1: horror show, So it must be me, was it? Mark? Yes? Okay?
Speaker 1: Mark alright outside the lock of the week problem. Houston
Speaker 1: the flawed team, obviously, but they righted the ship against
Speaker 1: the frisky Lions group. Yeah, you know, and they took advantage.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. This is a stop gap
Speaker 1: win for a Texans team. That's their home fans who
Speaker 1: have seen nothing but five and oh at home might
Speaker 1: think differently, and that's nice for the ownership to have
Speaker 1: five wins in your home stadium. But you said it, Dan,
Speaker 1: this game is full of flaws. But what did not
Speaker 1: happen in this game, which we've seen with the Lions
Speaker 1: which has made the Lions exciting, is that final attempted
Speaker 1: to come back by Detroit fell flat. Matthew Stafford was
Speaker 1: not on his game. Today's second half drives after a
Speaker 1: field goal to start the second half, punt punt, punt,
Speaker 1: miss field goal and the game ends on downs in
Speaker 1: Houston territory. They couldn't get it done. And I think
Speaker 1: you know Houston Texans defense A J. Boyer another great game,
Speaker 1: played well last week, did a good job today along
Speaker 1: from alongside Jackson in the secondary, and they shut down Detroit.
Speaker 1: Where Detroit made plays despite their faults week after week
Speaker 1: in the past. Did not happen on Sunday. How did
Speaker 1: the Texans offense look two hundred and neither team top
Speaker 1: three hundred yards, which is a rarity in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Two hundred and sixty nine yards against uh what Football
Speaker 1: Outsiders had as the worst defense in the NFL, the
Speaker 1: Detroit line, I I would say that they did not
Speaker 1: take advantage of the match up the way that you know,
Speaker 1: going in fantasy wise and otherwise, as you might think.
Speaker 1: You don't have a single receiver top forty four yards.
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins had to make some you know, acrobatic catches
Speaker 1: to even get to forty four yards. Will Fuller went
Speaker 1: out early with an injury. That takes away part of
Speaker 1: your offense. You know. With with Detroit, you also sorry
Speaker 1: with Houston. They get They ended up with a hundred
Speaker 1: and five yards on the game, but early rushing, but
Speaker 1: early on they could not get the ground game going
Speaker 1: and brock oswoiler continues to make the same head scratching,
Speaker 1: baffling throws that he did all season. Don't let this
Speaker 1: game fool you or to win. They they have a
Speaker 1: major issue at quarterback, as Dan wrote about in end
Speaker 1: Around last week Around the NFL backslash end Around beautiful.
Speaker 1: I loved it. My Friday column, Mark nailed at their
Speaker 1: Oswaller baby steps though six point four yards per temph
Speaker 1: on Sunday doubled his yards per at tempt from his
Speaker 1: previous game. That's progress, baby, I don't know A J.
Speaker 1: Boyer is not the only breakout player on the Texans,
Speaker 1: C J. Fedora with very productive the last five weeks,
Speaker 1: one of the I would say the most productive tight
Speaker 1: ends not named Robert Rob Gronkowski. About that, Greg, you
Speaker 1: like that? Well? They needed I like a little Fedora.
Speaker 1: Its bomb, you know what I'm talking about. He was
Speaker 1: compared to grunt coming out of Iowa two. I don't
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about, Dan, you know what you
Speaker 1: like him? Do you think he's a member of the
Speaker 1: tribe is I don't know. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: know anything about its background, but uh, you know the tribe.
Speaker 1: You know, if it's a tribe member, I'm sure you'd
Speaker 1: be happy about that. Sure, I mean, I have that
Speaker 1: I always try to get I want to see because
Speaker 1: I have a lot of Jewish friends and like that.
Speaker 1: They're excited, usually about the pro athlete that's Jewish succeeding.
Speaker 1: But I can't really get you in this boat. It
Speaker 1: seems I was a big Mike Rosenthal fan, former right
Speaker 1: tackle of the Minnesota Vikings. Great player, who is the
Speaker 1: greatest Jewish American athlete in professional sports history? To you
Speaker 1: in your lifetime, Greg Hank Greenberg, gotta be up there
Speaker 1: Sandy Kofax, certainly in your life has to be in
Speaker 1: the mix. Gabe kapler Um, Right, anything else from this game,
Speaker 1: I mean it's another team. You let's get excited about
Speaker 1: a five and three team in the a f C.
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to continue to beat this drum
Speaker 1: week after week. But I mean massively flawed. Give them
Speaker 1: a little bit of credit their five and oh at home. Well,
Speaker 1: I mentioned that, and that's what I said. The owner
Speaker 1: will loves that dynamics the home that if you're if
Speaker 1: you're a Houston fan and you're actually watching the rest
Speaker 1: of the games around the league, you're very concerned. If
Speaker 1: you're just gonna go buy your ticket in Sidney, Houston,
Speaker 1: watch him go five and oh, you're having a nice
Speaker 1: time so far. I mean, this team, this division is
Speaker 1: getting one playoff team. They're five and three. They've been
Speaker 1: outscored thirty points and they're five and three. I think
Speaker 1: that comes back actually to a good organization, too good
Speaker 1: coaching that there, even when they're bad, they just find
Speaker 1: a way that they're they're okay at least. I feel
Speaker 1: like the South is God, but just a little bit
Speaker 1: speaking of but it's the butt Bowl profits Patrick looks left,
Speaker 1: now looks over the middle, fires a bullet half the
Speaker 1: ten yard line, breaking at tackle in none one, he's
Speaker 1: at the five. Great just for the call on Hey said,
Speaker 1: that's a Jet touchdown. What a catch and run by
Speaker 1: Quincy and Nunua. And the Jets opened the third quarter
Speaker 1: with exactly what they had to have a touchdown drive
Speaker 1: and they're a point after away from pulling within six.
Speaker 1: That is, Bob was shoosing of w E p N
Speaker 1: ninety eight point seven ESPN Jets Radio. Quincy and Noon
Speaker 1: kicked off a big comeback for the Jets, who rallied
Speaker 1: back from a double digit halftime deficit and kept their
Speaker 1: faint playoff hopes alive with a thirty win over yes,
Speaker 1: the still winless Cleveland Browns now oh and eight. Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: the Browns are fairly dominant in the first half here.
Speaker 1: They had a seven lead before everything flipped. What happened here, well,
Speaker 1: I think Cleveland at their best is a team that
Speaker 1: has learned to play for about thirty minutes and thirty
Speaker 1: minutes well, and then you don't have the players or
Speaker 1: the star power to really hang with the team, even
Speaker 1: like the Jets that once Ryan Fitzpatrick, who threw for
Speaker 1: thirty yards in the first half, and they the defense
Speaker 1: absolutely clamped down on New York's past and game, and
Speaker 1: it was concerning. Had they had someone that you want
Speaker 1: to replace Fitzpatrick with, maybe you do it. He looked
Speaker 1: that bad. But in the second half of noon, Whall
Speaker 1: especially who I think is one of the young players
Speaker 1: in New York on offense, one of the few that
Speaker 1: you can say you can build around. It's an overpriced
Speaker 1: aging roster. He's a young guy that you can latch onto.
Speaker 1: Played very well. And it's another week where Cleveland Secondary
Speaker 1: got utterly fried. When it mattered, New York made plays
Speaker 1: in the second half and dominated the final thirty minutes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Jets scored touchdowns in their first three possessions of
Speaker 1: the second half, taking the lead and never letting go.
Speaker 1: The Rounds had uh a touchdown of a few seconds
Speaker 1: to go that al Michaels would have loved it. After
Speaker 1: the point conversion to cover. Well, you're supposed to hint
Speaker 1: at it, well, and that's why I'm not al Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm here with the exactly. Well, you know, it's tough
Speaker 1: to be out. Nobody can be. But anyway, so yeah,
Speaker 1: the Jets, they really uh they got it done here.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and what's been a tough season for New
Speaker 1: York Uh Quincy and Nona, Leonard Williams and when he
Speaker 1: was healthy, Darren Lee. Those are the three positives for
Speaker 1: me and Uh, I think West, I think we should
Speaker 1: check in my old man on that oak absolutely stood.
Speaker 1: His name is Keith, don't doubt about it. He's a
Speaker 1: big Jets fan. What is he gonna about the team today?
Speaker 1: What is he gone? Let's say the game today, jests,
Speaker 1: wee gate jests came out of the gates terribly sleepwalking
Speaker 1: once again. I'm now playing terrible on defense and offense.
Speaker 1: Down seven and a half second half? What did it play? Great?
Speaker 1: Offensively and defensively. They saught it to look like the
Speaker 1: team that we thought they were gonna be. Uh sorry, Mark,
Speaker 1: one of us had to go, all right, thanks by
Speaker 1: my old man Dad. One of us had to go.
Speaker 1: One of those Keith hands has has these turns of
Speaker 1: phrase that I don't really hear from any other person. Uh,
Speaker 1: and he could be a sitcom uh star with some
Speaker 1: of us starts. So one of us had to go, Mark,
Speaker 1: it was you. Yeah, I mean it's was I not
Speaker 1: already gone? Well, how describe your your level of gone
Speaker 1: after this? After this game, I I have not listened.
Speaker 1: I don't. I think people hear too much about the
Speaker 1: Browns on this show. I I am not attached to
Speaker 1: the result week tweek because I think went into this
Speaker 1: season having to not be You knew it was going
Speaker 1: to be an ugly season. It is ponderous when your
Speaker 1: favorite team gets lashed week after week. You know, if
Speaker 1: you're a normal person and you just work a different job,
Speaker 1: you turn off the television and you want you take
Speaker 1: a six walk, you know, blocked block walk up to
Speaker 1: the dive bar and you say goodbye to all this.
Speaker 1: But if you're here, you have to sit and stew
Speaker 1: in your own juices and everyone's commentary for the next
Speaker 1: nine hours as you have to be excited about the
Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers playing the Broncos. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: an absurd set up. It's a tough spot all right now.
Speaker 1: I mean, and again, this is a sandwich between the
Speaker 1: Cals winning the title and the Indians, who by the
Speaker 1: end of tonight could be World Series champions. The Browns
Speaker 1: halfway to own sixteen, and you look at the schedule
Speaker 1: home to Dallas, at Baltimore, home to Pittsburgh, home to
Speaker 1: New York. You know, everything is up in the air.
Speaker 1: I think there was a site that said that the
Speaker 1: Jets game was their best chance to win. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're O in eight, the the the NFL so
Speaker 1: watered down that it wouldn't be surprising to get a
Speaker 1: winner two at some point. But you can't look at
Speaker 1: the schedule and say that's the win. You're O and eight. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think Josh McCown should be the quarterback or
Speaker 1: should they go with Kessler? I'd rather see. Well, I
Speaker 1: they're very different. They the game plan with McCown is
Speaker 1: to throw the ball deep, and he can do that,
Speaker 1: and I think that might be better once Corey Coleman
Speaker 1: cuts back and they're actually gonna try to win some
Speaker 1: of these games they can, and then Kessler deserves more
Speaker 1: starts and I'm sure he'll get them there. We probably
Speaker 1: haven't even seen the final two or three starting quarterbacks
Speaker 1: that at this point or sitting on a couch somewhere
Speaker 1: in America. They've had seven different players play quarterbacks. Just
Speaker 1: the fact that Josh McCown got through this game is
Speaker 1: a quality thing, but it was crazy. This was I mean,
Speaker 1: Jets were getting fried in this game and the game
Speaker 1: just turned on a dime and Cleveland could not move
Speaker 1: the ball on offense. But there was one turning point, uh, Mark,
Speaker 1: I thought Tarrell Prior, right after the Jets took the lead,
Speaker 1: beat Reeves, who had another tough game. Although it's tough
Speaker 1: for anybody to cover Tarrell Prior, uh and Josh McCown
Speaker 1: missed him on a deep route. It could be a
Speaker 1: different game if he hit step. Yeah, one final thing
Speaker 1: and I feel like, you know, we get we get it.
Speaker 1: With Darrelle Revis, it's been it's been pounded on week
Speaker 1: after week, but he learned today what a lot of
Speaker 1: cornerbacks have that Terrell Prior is still learning certain nuances
Speaker 1: of the position, still as the occasional drop, but when
Speaker 1: he's on, he's dominant and no one can touch him.
Speaker 1: And Reeves was absolutely victimized by him over the first
Speaker 1: two quarters and it was kind of depressing watching Vas
Speaker 1: having to give him, blanket him and give him, you know,
Speaker 1: room to Terrell Prior room to get the catch initially,
Speaker 1: just to try to shut him down because he can't
Speaker 1: compete one on one with him. I likened Rievs to
Speaker 1: late period Andre the Giant matches or to see a legend.
Speaker 1: And the comments that he had uh this past week
Speaker 1: really bothered me, where he told Newsday Kimberly Martin that
Speaker 1: his body was breaking down and hey, listen, I'm thirty one.
Speaker 1: What can I do? I don't know how Terrence Newman
Speaker 1: does it. You're supposed to be a leader, dude. You're
Speaker 1: not supposed to be like making excuses for your terrible season.
Speaker 1: And it sounded like to me that a guy that
Speaker 1: was one ft out the door got his what last
Speaker 1: big contract and is now gonna let this mediocrity wash
Speaker 1: wants to restructure his contract every single season, he's incredible, pride,
Speaker 1: slash something else, and he's not handling it well. That guy.
Speaker 1: I love Rebus, but what he's what he's done this season,
Speaker 1: both on his plays and these comments. I mean, at
Speaker 1: this point, I'd be surprised if he's on the Jets
Speaker 1: next year. I think guaranteed they gave him. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got thirty seven million coming to him one way or
Speaker 1: the other. And I don't know, you know, those comments
Speaker 1: made me think, I don't know if the lights still on.
Speaker 1: Passion wise, we'll see. Let's move on one. You're to
Speaker 1: your point on prior. He's going to be the highest
Speaker 1: paid player on the Browns next year, isn't he. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because they're gonna have the franchise dagon or pay him
Speaker 1: ten million dollars. They will. And the other thing is
Speaker 1: they're they're obviously getting rid of anyone else who's high
Speaker 1: priced and over the age of twenty. Is uh, Joe
Speaker 1: Thomas on the team on Wednesday? I think he is, strangely,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like, you know, the reports today that
Speaker 1: Joe Hayden could be shopped, and Greg suggested in a
Speaker 1: piece last week that he winds up with the Saints.
Speaker 1: That wouldn't be the weirdest thing. Alright, Let's move on another.
Speaker 1: A f C matchup full steps up from the pocket,
Speaker 1: fires it for the endown touch five, hanging on touchdown City,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey finds the end zone has Nick Foles puts
Speaker 1: it right on the money into the hands of the
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl tight end. Travis Kelsey settled down. You don't
Speaker 1: like that, you know, like the excitement just settled down.
Speaker 1: We're almost done. Mark nick Foles stepped in for an
Speaker 1: injured Alex Smith on Sunday and played like an all pro.
Speaker 1: Let him have his fun mark two touchdown. He already
Speaker 1: had it, throwing two touchdowns, including that one to Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey you just heard while posting a passerating north of
Speaker 1: one thirty five is the Chiefs rolled to a thirty
Speaker 1: fourteen win over the suspect Colts. The call there, Mitch
Speaker 1: Holness of Casey f X Chris Wessling. The Chiefs always
Speaker 1: seemed to take care of business when they should. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this on a day when Alex Smith was concussed and
Speaker 1: Spencer Ware got knocked out of the game and they
Speaker 1: still dominated. Andrew Luck had a poor game. He wasn't
Speaker 1: protected well, sax sick time six times, lost a fumble
Speaker 1: through a bad interception, and I think give Greg Rosenthal
Speaker 1: credit here, Oh Rosie, Tyreek Hill played like a superstars
Speaker 1: were debating, Well, you were telling me, you know, slow
Speaker 1: down on the Tyreek Hill as the first exciting rookie
Speaker 1: to watch, and I would take Ezekiel Elliott over here.
Speaker 1: And you were saying that he hasn't been featured as
Speaker 1: a vertical guy. Is a shorter guy, but today is
Speaker 1: a vertical guy. He maybe he's legit. Alex Smith said
Speaker 1: he wanted to go downfield to Tyreek Hill. I think
Speaker 1: it's weird to go downfield to a five ft seven guy,
Speaker 1: or however toll he is. But he's got some ability.
Speaker 1: The NFL is different now. I don't think he could
Speaker 1: survive twenty years ago. But he's one of those space
Speaker 1: players that you that you talk about on and his
Speaker 1: movement is like a young Darren Spoilser, someone even a
Speaker 1: little different than that. His movements just insane. Wes, you
Speaker 1: once did one of your top ten's top ten satellite backs,
Speaker 1: didn't you. I believe I did. Yes, you sure did, Buddy.
Speaker 1: I think I just wanted to write about Dion Lewis
Speaker 1: that week. Yeah, who could be on the horizon. I've
Speaker 1: got some bad news for you, Dan, You you've been
Speaker 1: drumming up this okay pathway to five and five for
Speaker 1: the Jets, right yeah, okay, you got your win against
Speaker 1: the Browns. You got a couple of winnable matchups coming up.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe they get there. We got a situation here
Speaker 1: in the a f C South, a f C West
Speaker 1: right now, we got three teams six and two two
Speaker 1: six and two or five and two. We got some
Speaker 1: good teams in the a f C West. No, it's
Speaker 1: a problem. Might not be, you know, get into five
Speaker 1: and five, might still have you a couple of games
Speaker 1: back in the what's that? What is that? A here?
Speaker 1: That's the Jets pulse right now, there's a pulse. I
Speaker 1: know they are. They are far out of the mix.
Speaker 1: I'm saying this. I'm saying this. A f C West
Speaker 1: is a situation right now. These teams are good six
Speaker 1: and two Raiders, six and two Broncos, and this Chief's
Speaker 1: team who's won three straight. It's a good team. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not an exciting and the Chiefs have the tiebreaker
Speaker 1: on the Jets. It's not good. I need the Chiefs
Speaker 1: to totally collapse. This game, to me is a match
Speaker 1: and have to win nine games. Yeah, I mean there's
Speaker 1: the other side to this. This this game to me
Speaker 1: as a matchup Chiefs colts of two gms and coaching
Speaker 1: coaches that were hired around the same time, and one
Speaker 1: GM and coach John Dorsey and Andy Reid are far superior.
Speaker 1: Well said. And you know, I I get Andrew luck
Speaker 1: is the best player in the a f C South,
Speaker 1: but I would put my chips in with either a
Speaker 1: Texas team that's much better coach with Bill O'Brien or
Speaker 1: a Titans team that actually seems to be jelling to
Speaker 1: some degree where there Andrew look again, sacks six times.
Speaker 1: It's he's on the run every game, he's taking a beating,
Speaker 1: and you're asking one guy to be an entire football team.
Speaker 1: You know how Mark, the Packers annoy you. They're one
Speaker 1: of those teams that bother you. That's how I feel
Speaker 1: about the Colts. I can't stand him and watch them.
Speaker 1: I don't care about them. They're just a team wasting
Speaker 1: generational talented quarterback because they don't have their stuff together.
Speaker 1: They're not a true player in their conference. There they
Speaker 1: might limp to another a f C South title, or
Speaker 1: they might collapse and go seven and nine or six
Speaker 1: or ten. Either way, to me, this is not an
Speaker 1: interesting team and they gotta figure some stuff out. No,
Speaker 1: that's fair, Dog said, Well, let's move on, which takes
Speaker 1: us to Sunday Night Football. Sunday Night, a Sunday night
Speaker 1: game in which the Dallas cow Boys had a ten
Speaker 1: point deficit staring back at them in the fourth quarter
Speaker 1: against the Philadelphia Eagles, Dak Prescott not playing well. Twitter
Speaker 1: starting to buzz about Tony Romeo on the sideline. But
Speaker 1: guess what, Dac wasn't done yet. Neither were the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They reel off ten points in the final period unanswered
Speaker 1: uh to tie the game. A Dez Bryant touchdown catch
Speaker 1: the big play took him to overtime first possession. Cowboys
Speaker 1: go down the field, convert on fourth and one in
Speaker 1: a major onions moment, get down to the goal line,
Speaker 1: and then this happens. Elliott in the backfield. Prescott throws
Speaker 1: flide open Jason Witton to win the game. Friendly fire
Speaker 1: got the Philadelphia go They collide on Jason Witton wide
Speaker 1: open for the game winner. The game winner to Jason Witten.
Speaker 1: Final score, Oh, a huge Cowboys win. Mark Sessler, you
Speaker 1: watched it all, the third straight overtime game on Sunday
Speaker 1: Night Football, and the star was the Cowboys. Yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: once again, who was that? That was grotesque? Not fitting
Speaker 1: for the game we just saw. I I love what
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are all about and the way they climbed
Speaker 1: back into this game and Ezekiel Elliott and the way
Speaker 1: this team is built. This is the class of the
Speaker 1: NFC East, and you know the whole game, you're watching
Speaker 1: Twitter heat up with these clowns saying Dak Prescott one
Speaker 1: bad game, you're out of there. How about this. I
Speaker 1: love the way Jason Garrett believes in his players, and
Speaker 1: you're gonna stick with Dak Prescott. You don't bench him
Speaker 1: right now? This team has built a certain way and
Speaker 1: you keep riding it. We gotta fired up Sessler yelling,
Speaker 1: don't bury Dak. What's absurd? He said, He's a phenomenal
Speaker 1: rookie season, unlike something we've seen in a long time,
Speaker 1: and in one shaky stretch to quarters, has a lot
Speaker 1: to do against the phenomenal Eagles defense, and people want
Speaker 1: to bury the guy. It's ridiculous. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was a very situation. And I think though knowing
Speaker 1: that who the Cowboys are, knowing who their owner is,
Speaker 1: knowing Tony Romo being involved, and knowing the media, it
Speaker 1: was going to be a long week this week. Uh,
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys I think are influenced a little bit
Speaker 1: by the media as well sometimes. And I think if
Speaker 1: he would have struggled and his passer rating was hovering
Speaker 1: around fifty or so, midway through the fourth quarter. If
Speaker 1: they went down at home with Romo ready to come back,
Speaker 1: who knows what happens. He has a throw in the
Speaker 1: red zone as they're going in to tie the game
Speaker 1: that the Eagles have a chance to intercept and they
Speaker 1: drop it, And you're right, how like narratives and seasons
Speaker 1: can change on plays like that if they intercept that
Speaker 1: past the story is that kind of came up small
Speaker 1: in the big moment, and I'm so glad it didn't
Speaker 1: happen that way because this was a great gut check moment.
Speaker 1: We kind of saw what this Cowboys team was all about,
Speaker 1: especially in overtime going for it on fourth down. That's
Speaker 1: why Jay Gruden, you should keep running the ball when
Speaker 1: you're trying to win the game in overtime because you
Speaker 1: can go win it. Forget the field goal kickers. But
Speaker 1: what kind of onions were those hung by Jason Garrett
Speaker 1: going for that? It was especially continuing you got Dan bad?
Speaker 1: What kind of onion? What Brandon Giant sweet Spanish onions
Speaker 1: are good? And a red Zeppelin is a big red onion.
Speaker 1: I'll go to the Zeppelin's on that one. You passed
Speaker 1: out a forty eight yard field goal to go win
Speaker 1: the ball game. Lock it up? Said, oh, oh, we
Speaker 1: locked it up. West, I did lock up this three
Speaker 1: and one locks of the week this week. That is
Speaker 1: by far the best. And I like that that Dac
Speaker 1: won this game on I mean, wasn't that a m
Speaker 1: Tony Romo play if you ever saw one? The reverse
Speaker 1: spin kind of running backwards, looks like the past archer's
Speaker 1: gonna get him. And then oh what, magically there's just
Speaker 1: Dason Witten sitting in there adjacent went all the North
Speaker 1: Texas housewives. I got the vapors Jason Witt and wins
Speaker 1: the game, my hero. This was the thing with you
Speaker 1: during the while we were watching this. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't even enjoy doing the show anymore. And there's a
Speaker 1: lot to do with Sydney, and there's a lot to
Speaker 1: do with Greg and Dan and West. It's an absurd
Speaker 1: Why am I here at nine eleven at night. I
Speaker 1: could be at my house enjoying real life, but I'm
Speaker 1: here to get interrupted every five minutes by our producer. Wow,
Speaker 1: don't apologize now, that means nothing, Sorry said, We're all
Speaker 1: getting it today. It's your turn. It just felt incomplete,
Speaker 1: you know, there was a hole. I'll show you incomplete
Speaker 1: now we got HR online one. All right. Back to
Speaker 1: the game, all right, the Eagles. Tough loss with the Eagles, though,
Speaker 1: because you are um endpoints on the road, you have
Speaker 1: the game in your hands. Would have been tied for
Speaker 1: the division, league, would have had a chance to be
Speaker 1: a top that division tied, and the the NFC East
Speaker 1: wide open as we know. But instead you put the
Speaker 1: Cowboys in the driver's seat. It hurts on a lot
Speaker 1: of different levels. Weird weird sequence I think by the
Speaker 1: Eagles in the fourth quarter, they are in position for
Speaker 1: a field goal. They do the play where they have
Speaker 1: the receiver throw the throw it down the field. That
Speaker 1: doesn't work. Then you throw it backwards on a I
Speaker 1: think that was supposed to be a screen pass. Six
Speaker 1: yard loss that puts them out of field goal range.
Speaker 1: Although they could have tried the field goal if they
Speaker 1: wanted to there and they punted away. That that sequence
Speaker 1: really killed him and Wentz had you know, Wentz had
Speaker 1: his chances late in the game. He ends up four
Speaker 1: point seven yards per tend. He was fine, but their
Speaker 1: offense is not good enough. I have a question about
Speaker 1: their approach. Sorry, Dan, Like the you have thirty two
Speaker 1: completions for Wentz at four point seven yards per attempt.
Speaker 1: They do do they either not trust him in this
Speaker 1: game to throw the ball down field based on who
Speaker 1: they have in personnel, or was it simply this is
Speaker 1: how we're going to pick apart Dallas. It was effective
Speaker 1: for a large part of the game, but in the
Speaker 1: end there's no big play. I think their trade talks
Speaker 1: for Tory Smith tell us a lot about who they
Speaker 1: have going downfield right now, and they're not happy with it.
Speaker 1: Like the way you think it was perfect, it was working.
Speaker 1: They were out working for what they wanted and the
Speaker 1: defense basically blew it. And if they just execute there,
Speaker 1: even if they play conservative, run it a couple of times.
Speaker 1: But referring to that sequence you talked about, you're probably
Speaker 1: lining up for about a forty five forty six yard
Speaker 1: field goal. If you don't get much out of the
Speaker 1: two runs, you burn the clock a little bit more
Speaker 1: and you make that kick that puts them up two
Speaker 1: scores again and the game's probably over. So you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta execute, especially against a good team. And the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are a good team, folks. They're a tough team
Speaker 1: and they get that the tone center is a rookie.
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott is one of the physically toughest running backs
Speaker 1: of this era. And look at what they overcame. They
Speaker 1: overcame a seventy three yard holding penalty late the game
Speaker 1: and never came a ten point swing going into halftime.
Speaker 1: When Dad through that interception, the Eagles came back with
Speaker 1: a field goal. That's not easy to overcome. Well, and
Speaker 1: people that want, you know, Dad to get deep six
Speaker 1: at some point here. You've got the Browns next week,
Speaker 1: so it's not happening. Then they could be Cleveland by
Speaker 1: thirty points. It does get interesting. You've got the Steelers, Ravens, Redskins,
Speaker 1: and Vikings the month after that. That will tell us
Speaker 1: a lot about this Cowboys team. But I don't see
Speaker 1: them as anything other than the class of a division.
Speaker 1: I also don't think there's too many people out there
Speaker 1: at this point, People like me that have Tony Roman
Speaker 1: on their fantasy team, maybe, but most people, I think
Speaker 1: see what's going on here, which is this is Dak's
Speaker 1: team and it just got reinforced on a night where
Speaker 1: it seemed like would be the well, except when things
Speaker 1: got tough tonight, it was interesting to see all these
Speaker 1: people come out of the wood work would work with
Speaker 1: a completely opposite sec. It's gonna keep happening too. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just the way it is. Because Romo is a
Speaker 1: great quarterback. Because he's one of the best quarterbacks of
Speaker 1: the last ten years. It's not like it's some chump.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's no. I said, I thought it would
Speaker 1: be fun to see him go on a big playoffroun.
Speaker 1: This is a fork in the road game. Though you
Speaker 1: look at the NFC West standings, in the road the
Speaker 1: other team has. The other teams in the division now
Speaker 1: all have three losses. Redskins have three losses and a
Speaker 1: tie would have been a tie if the Eagles just
Speaker 1: finished this thing out. I mean, this really gives them
Speaker 1: a nice list. This is new to the glossary fork
Speaker 1: in the road game? Did the Falcons have a fork
Speaker 1: in the road game? Those at a wounded dog a
Speaker 1: lot of times it's a division game. It was a
Speaker 1: fork in the road game. Sure not to be confused
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Speaker 1: Hague the Netherlands. He might have some of his suits,
Speaker 1: might be coming after me for not saying at the
Speaker 1: top of the show, sorry, miss he doesn't have suits.
Speaker 1: That's what we love about him. That's true, that's true.
Speaker 1: All right, that's it, Greg, before we go, you've had
Speaker 1: a little more time to reflect on this, your favorite
Speaker 1: Jewish American UH sports star of all time, all time
Speaker 1: in my lifetime. Well, I'm gonna go right to Foxborough, Massachusetts,
Speaker 1: where Julian Edelman is slaying him on the field and
Speaker 1: some of the ladies off the field. Whatever. Player that
Speaker 1: he's lighting that menorah once a year, eight nights. He's
Speaker 1: a two tool player. There you go. I don't know
Speaker 1: what that means, but he can throw it too. That's
Speaker 1: three tools. Alright. I'm glad we got to the bottom
Speaker 1: of that. Julian Edelman is setting me up with that.
Speaker 1: You got it? All right, that's it. We'll be back
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, talk about the Monday Night game and whatever
Speaker 1: else we want. It's our show. Dan Hands is signing
Speaker 1: off for the Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Boss, and
Speaker 1: La sid behind the Glass till Tuesday. M everybody's gonna die.
Speaker 1: That's the truth about human tie. There there's your there's
Speaker 1: your East. Eat right there. Yeah, Happy East for everybody.