Speaker 1: The ball comes out of the hands of Rogers. Minutes
Speaker 1: we're covered in it in zone litter. Floyd just pass
Speaker 1: it is for the touchdown. De Fronte Adams, It's Adams
Speaker 1: again for the touchdown. Flips it. It's all It is
Speaker 1: a touchdown. Yes, the velvet tones of Jim Nance and
Speaker 1: the CBS NFL network simulcast. Yes. The Green Bay Packers
Speaker 1: got it together just in time on Thursday Night, scoring
Speaker 1: uh consecutive touchdown drives, three straight touchdown drives in the
Speaker 1: second half after a sack strip fumble put the Bears
Speaker 1: ahead temporarily early in the third quarter. In the end
Speaker 1: a twenty six to ten victory four the Packers who
Speaker 1: moved to four and to Dan Hans is here alongside
Speaker 1: Chris Westling West. It looked pretty grim when Leonard Floyd
Speaker 1: recovered that ball in the end zone. Either blue Birds
Speaker 1: are back out at lambeau Field. But Aaron Rodgers and
Speaker 1: the Packers they put things back together and save some
Speaker 1: face tonight. Packers always score on the opening drive of
Speaker 1: the game because they have the benefit of scripted plays,
Speaker 1: which allows Aaron Rodgers to be more decisive and get
Speaker 1: rid of the ball faster. Then they lapsed into sandlot
Speaker 1: ball after that. And that's what. It shouldn't take nearly
Speaker 1: three quarters for Aaron Rodgers to find his rhythm against
Speaker 1: an undermanned, frankly not so good Bears defense, and that's
Speaker 1: what happened tonight. I think optimists will say they fixed
Speaker 1: their problems in the second half. I don't think they did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was almost a gimme. The game was already you know,
Speaker 1: stacked in the Packers favor, the fact that they were
Speaker 1: a superior team, uh, the fact that they were at home,
Speaker 1: the fact that it's Thursday night where the home team
Speaker 1: usually thrives. And then Brian Hoyer gets his left arms
Speaker 1: snapped on by a Clay Matthew his helmet shot, and
Speaker 1: enter Matt Barkley, who was just dreadful in this game,
Speaker 1: six of fifteen for eighty one yards and to two interceptions.
Speaker 1: So the Bears essentially had no chance in this game
Speaker 1: when you look at it. So if anybody you know,
Speaker 1: we're not handing out lollipops around here for the Packers effort,
Speaker 1: but you do at least give them credit for looking
Speaker 1: like some semblance of an offense that is tough to handle,
Speaker 1: because they did score touchdowns, like I said, in three
Speaker 1: straight UH possessions in the second half to put the
Speaker 1: game away. Rogers, UH, Davante Adams and Time on Contgomery
Speaker 1: UH and UH Randall cop those were the three guys
Speaker 1: that he relied on. At one point, I tweeted, UH,
Speaker 1: you know when they were in the red zone, this
Speaker 1: is where they really missed Jordy Nelson And honestly, West,
Speaker 1: it feels like Jordy Nelson must not be even close
Speaker 1: to the same guy anymore for him to not blow
Speaker 1: up in this game. I don't think he is the
Speaker 1: same guy. He certainly doesn't have Rogers trust. There were
Speaker 1: at least two times when Nelson broke open and Rodgers
Speaker 1: didn't see him. But the the stats are gonna be misleading.
Speaker 1: In this game, that trio of Packers receivers joined the
Speaker 1: ninety Patriots as the only trio ever to have ten
Speaker 1: receptions a piece in a game. And that's because Time,
Speaker 1: Montgomery and Randall Cob were used as as basically surrogates
Speaker 1: for the running game short passes within five to six
Speaker 1: yards of the line of scrimmage. Davante Adams was the
Speaker 1: only one getting open consistently beyond eight or nine yards,
Speaker 1: and I don't know if that's something that can they
Speaker 1: can do going forward. Next week is a potential shootout
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. So you figured without Eddie Lacy, without James Starks,
Speaker 1: they're gonna do the same method of attack and in
Speaker 1: that in that game, very weird, weird performance by their
Speaker 1: offense because and Aaron Rodgers was very frustrated um early
Speaker 1: on in this game. Uh you know, he threw third
Speaker 1: He had thirty nine completions in this game, which was
Speaker 1: a franchise record, but it took until his fifty five
Speaker 1: pass of the game to go over three hundred yards,
Speaker 1: which really again puts into respective how this is not
Speaker 1: was in the gabber zone. He was in the gabbered
Speaker 1: n for the game, which is outrageous. Um. But that's
Speaker 1: just what the Packers are right now. They are not
Speaker 1: an explosive team to watch. And they left some plays
Speaker 1: on the Randall cop left two touchdowns on the field
Speaker 1: in the first half, which speaks to again and I
Speaker 1: think Cobbs and Night it was good defense. We should
Speaker 1: say that, but I don't know. I want to say
Speaker 1: a lot of receivers make that play, but I think
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb of two years ago makes those plays at
Speaker 1: least one of them to let, to let two of
Speaker 1: those opportunities, so instead of four teen, you get six
Speaker 1: off that. That's the kind of stuff that has been
Speaker 1: haunting the Packers. But you know, we can't kill the Packers.
Speaker 1: They took care of business in this game. And uh,
Speaker 1: their their backfield is something to watch here. I thought
Speaker 1: Ti Montgomery was still weird to watch a number eighty
Speaker 1: eight getting the ball stuck in his gut on draw
Speaker 1: plays and things of that nature. But we might see
Speaker 1: a lot more of that because Montgomery did a nice job.
Speaker 1: Rookie Don Jackson, who they promoted from the practice squad,
Speaker 1: he he left just two carries and then left with
Speaker 1: the left hand injury. We don't know what's going on
Speaker 1: with him. So they're running game. We don't know what
Speaker 1: to expect from Green Bay's running attack. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers uh and this passing game that's gonna have
Speaker 1: to lead them. Let's see if they're up to the
Speaker 1: task against better uh opposition. They serve notice about six
Speaker 1: years ago that they had a scorched earth policy against
Speaker 1: defensive backfields in Atlanta in the playoffs when they just exploded.
Speaker 1: Maybe they can recapture that next week in Atlanta. I
Speaker 1: don't I doubt it, but we'll see. We'll see. In
Speaker 1: one last note, nineteen penalties for one and sixty four
Speaker 1: yards in this game. Another little ugly subplot of primetime football.
Speaker 1: Clean it up, guys. All right, that's the Thursday night
Speaker 1: football game. Now, what's what we're gonna do here? Uh?
Speaker 1: You and I are going to throw to you and
Speaker 1: I and Connie Fox and let's do it. We'll preview
Speaker 1: all the games in week number seven. Let's do it.
Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast does want to make flowers today?
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the FL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I am joined by
Speaker 1: a room filled with some heroes, Connie Fox, Colleen Wolf,
Speaker 1: and Christopher Westling. What's up people? Hey Dan? An abbreviated
Speaker 1: sort of group today it is Greg as we know,
Speaker 1: who will join us later. Is in beautiful London town.
Speaker 1: And uh, I was thinking maybe the national anthem if
Speaker 1: you hadn't said thank you? Just so, I'm doing a
Speaker 1: TV hit on NFL Network with Steve Weisch. They kind
Speaker 1: of looked like a crime fighting duo from a pilot
Speaker 1: that was never picked up Buddy Cops kind of. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did one with us on NFL. Now he was
Speaker 1: standing in front of Big Ben. He was in a
Speaker 1: black overcode. No where do you get that? I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's weird. I have to talk to talk to him
Speaker 1: about his microphone placement too high on his face. We'll
Speaker 1: talk to that. We'll talk about that a lot of
Speaker 1: get to Mark not with us today. Uh, he will
Speaker 1: be uh hopefully back with us on Sunday, so that
Speaker 1: leaves the triplets. I don't know if we've ever done
Speaker 1: Annie Zeus show before. This is a little, a little different.
Speaker 1: It's been a fun night. Yeah. Today started, by the way,
Speaker 1: with me turning the corner into like the Valet parking
Speaker 1: lot area, and there's Connie Fox getting out of her
Speaker 1: car and I was ninety eight percent sure it was.
Speaker 1: Colleen says like, oh, this is funny. So on my
Speaker 1: car radio, on my serious there was a cold Play
Speaker 1: song playing, Uh, you know the one that goes he
Speaker 1: blasts it. I start turning it up louder and just
Speaker 1: to see how Colin reacts, and she won't react to it,
Speaker 1: and I turn it up louder until the point where
Speaker 1: it's like filling up the entire NFL that we're parking lot,
Speaker 1: and she never turns around. And then I was thinking
Speaker 1: about this actually after we spoke about it, because you
Speaker 1: said you didn't want to turn around because you thought
Speaker 1: that might be some one trying to get your attention
Speaker 1: by being cool. No. No, I meant like I didn't
Speaker 1: know if somebody was doing that for real, And then
Speaker 1: I just didn't really I wasn't sure I wanted to
Speaker 1: talk to that person. I was gonna say, like, that's
Speaker 1: kind of like you're from Philly, Um, I'm from New York.
Speaker 1: Spent time at the Jersey Shore. That was kind of
Speaker 1: a move, like people would like rip their music and
Speaker 1: pull up totally the ladies. And maybe Colleen is a
Speaker 1: woman that you lived by the Jersey Shore. I'm sure
Speaker 1: that was done to you many times, and maybe that
Speaker 1: was you shutting it out. Maybe that was like a
Speaker 1: callback of my subconscious But also I just want to
Speaker 1: add that Dan comes gets out of his car with
Speaker 1: a green solo cup, no shoes on, and like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing blaring cold Play? A little bit eccentric
Speaker 1: entrance today? Yeah? Better moved by. You just have to
Speaker 1: turn around, don't even acknowledge, just hope it goes in
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Speaker 1: of this company did reach out to me yesterday. Uh
Speaker 1: in a completely perplexed state. What is who is this?
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Speaker 1: far Today. You heard at the top of the show,
Speaker 1: well you heard me and you heard Chris Westling as
Speaker 1: we broke down the Thursday night recap Bears at Packers,
Speaker 1: filling in for Greg of course. Uh So now we
Speaker 1: have a lot of other games to get to. In fact,
Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys and Carolina Panthers on by, that
Speaker 1: leaves dirty teams uh too already played. So that means
Speaker 1: there are four team games to talk about, nicely done
Speaker 1: the same thing every week. So I at this point
Speaker 1: I should not even have to be thinking about it.
Speaker 1: So why don't we get into it, folks? And uh,
Speaker 1: why don't we start We'll do you know, usually to
Speaker 1: go in time order and the London game, which by
Speaker 1: the way, it takes place at twicken Numb Stadium. No, no, Ham,
Speaker 1: think it's Ham. People that aren't plugged in twick it
Speaker 1: twicken what just call it Twickers for short, like they
Speaker 1: do in London. Twickers Twickers going to the Twicks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. Okay. Anyway, usually do the games and in
Speaker 1: order of when they're played. But we're gonna push it
Speaker 1: back a little bit. So let's start with the one
Speaker 1: pm games here in America UM, the Home of the Brave,
Speaker 1: in the Land of the Free UM. And we'll start
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf with all the Saints who are heading to
Speaker 1: Kansas City, uh to face the can't Well they're facing
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs, and which makes sense. Uh, the
Speaker 1: Saints are a team they cannot stop anybody. I mean
Speaker 1: we know that, but the Chiefs, no one is going
Speaker 1: to confuse them with a dynamic as a dynamic team.
Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts about this game? And where
Speaker 1: does Jamal Charles fit into this offense? In case alright.
Speaker 1: So sure the Chiefs. You might look at them and
Speaker 1: think they're not a dynamic team, but I think that
Speaker 1: they'll be able to run the ball well in this
Speaker 1: game because they're playing the Saints. So Jonathan Stewart did
Speaker 1: it last week. I think Spencer Ware and Charles Jamal
Speaker 1: Charles are much more effective than Stewart, so I think
Speaker 1: they'll be able to do well on the ground there. Plus,
Speaker 1: the Saints are not good against tight ends, so they
Speaker 1: haven't been all year. I think that Travis Kelsey could
Speaker 1: have a big day there, um because their linebackers have
Speaker 1: just struggled so much. They I don't know what's going
Speaker 1: on with them, um all. On the other side of things,
Speaker 1: you have Drew Brees that I feel like the Kansas
Speaker 1: City defense it's just not nearly as dominant as it
Speaker 1: used to be, especially with Justin Houston out. And then
Speaker 1: you know you have mark Ingram who could actually do
Speaker 1: well on the ground if Alan Bailey is out. So
Speaker 1: you have a lot of differences here with Justin Houston.
Speaker 1: He could have come off the pop this week if
Speaker 1: he was ready, but I don't think he's ready. That's right, right, Levin.
Speaker 1: They're eligible, Yeah, I don't know if we're gonna see
Speaker 1: Justin Houston, and even if we did, it's not like
Speaker 1: he was gonna have a large role immediately on the
Speaker 1: side of defense, right, And so when you just have
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters there in that secondary, I think that the
Speaker 1: Saints have way too many options just for Marcus Peters
Speaker 1: to sort of defend um. I think they really miss
Speaker 1: Seawan Smith at this point. So the secondary has sort
Speaker 1: of been a little spotty. But I like the Chiefs
Speaker 1: in this game. Yeah, the Saints have averaged almost ten
Speaker 1: more points at home than on the road over the
Speaker 1: last three years. That's a problem. And when you mentioned
Speaker 1: in their defense, it's not just that they have trouble
Speaker 1: covering and they can't stop the run. When they do cover,
Speaker 1: all you have to do is do what Cam Newton
Speaker 1: did last week. Throw it up for clip grabs and
Speaker 1: near their goal line, you get past interference calls and
Speaker 1: then have Jonathan Stewart running in that was that was
Speaker 1: their offense last week. The Panther's offense was just get
Speaker 1: past interference calls on the Saints uh sub optimal cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: It's it's the same old story with the Saints. They
Speaker 1: are second in total offense in the league, second and
Speaker 1: scoring first and passing uh. And yet here we are,
Speaker 1: we're thirty first, and total defense we're last, and scoring
Speaker 1: thirty first and passing defense. They're fatally flawed team. And
Speaker 1: that's why I like the Chiefs in this game, who
Speaker 1: are three and two. By the way, I liked I
Speaker 1: like them at home. I always liked them at home.
Speaker 1: But against the A team with this much um uh,
Speaker 1: this many flaws on the defensive side of the ball,
Speaker 1: I just don't see the Saints winning many road games
Speaker 1: all season. No, they're not built to do that. They
Speaker 1: play basketball when they're at home, and they can't play
Speaker 1: that stile outdoors. Yeah, I agreed with Marks Rant. I
Speaker 1: think it was last week about the Saints and how
Speaker 1: they're they're boring to watch. I mean, they're putting up points,
Speaker 1: but it's the same thing every single year with them,
Speaker 1: and it's like, at what point do you finally actually
Speaker 1: get a defense that can play and defend a team.
Speaker 1: It's like when everybody loves Raymond hit like it's eighth
Speaker 1: season and there are people that still liked watching Everybody
Speaker 1: loves Raymond, But who are those people? Are they Yeah,
Speaker 1: everybody else is kind of like, all right, we've seen
Speaker 1: this everything. So the show wasn't even good after the
Speaker 1: third or fourth season. Let's just move on. The Saints
Speaker 1: are the everybody loves Raymond in the NFL. I knew
Speaker 1: some girls who thought that Ray Romano was hot. No,
Speaker 1: who thought that the mom on that show was hilarious,
Speaker 1: And they were just they were the biggest fan of
Speaker 1: the mom. And I was just like, you can't watch
Speaker 1: that show. Stop Patricia Heaton. I believe that. No. I
Speaker 1: meant raised mom, But Patricia Patricia Heaton was just a pure,
Speaker 1: wanton evil. I've never seen the program myself. Oh she was,
Speaker 1: she did. She spent the whole show yelling at Ray
Speaker 1: It was awful. Yes, you get still worked up about
Speaker 1: Everybody Loves Well, you know, you know my theory on
Speaker 1: nineties television shows. They exist, All sitcoms from nine exist
Speaker 1: only to pound the idea into females heads that all
Speaker 1: men are cavemen and you must be the stronger one
Speaker 1: in the relationship. That's a strong opinion. All right, let's
Speaker 1: move on. Love on West gets fired up on random stuff,
Speaker 1: comes go back and watch them all. Every man is
Speaker 1: an idiot. Who can't do anything right. Um, let's move on.
Speaker 1: I like that. I've heard you say the theory before correct.
Speaker 1: I will watch closely next time I watch at nineties sitcom, uh,
Speaker 1: to see for myself if that's true. Let's move on
Speaker 1: a a f C South matchup, the a f C South,
Speaker 1: which Kylie and I don't know if you're aware is
Speaker 1: but uh, this one is a cults at Titans, and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what West. I'm smart and a little bit.
Speaker 1: Nobody cares about anybody's fantasy teams. But I did drop
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota to pick up Tony Romo three weeks ago,
Speaker 1: stup all my budget, and I said, oh, this is
Speaker 1: a beautiful move. It's gonna work out. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: the biggest bang fest ever because not only is Marcus
Speaker 1: Mariota Mariota again, Tony Romo and gonna play Daddy's in
Speaker 1: trouble West Mariota back. Okay, you would think so by
Speaker 1: the passer ratings and the touchdowns. He missed a lot
Speaker 1: of throws last week, a lot of easy throws. They
Speaker 1: would have helped his receivers get run, get yards after
Speaker 1: the catch, and he hits some big throws. Both of
Speaker 1: them were diving catches by Kendall Wright and Richard Matthews.
Speaker 1: I don't think Mariota is back. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: comfortable yet in this offense. The results are a little
Speaker 1: bit better, but he's also playing some stinking dog teams.
Speaker 1: Is kendall Right back? Kendall Right is back, and he
Speaker 1: is their best receiver. And you know, on the Cult
Speaker 1: side of the ball there, you could go through a
Speaker 1: whole season and I'll find too many losses that were
Speaker 1: as stomach punch bad had as Sunday nights a game,
Speaker 1: the game was over against a Houston Texans team where
Speaker 1: they showed no signs of life their entire home fan
Speaker 1: base that poured out of that building. Fourteen point lead
Speaker 1: for the Cults of five minutes ago, and they don't
Speaker 1: find a way. Uh, we might be talking about a
Speaker 1: little bit of a hot butt situation. Uh in Indianapolis
Speaker 1: right now. They gotta win some games. And if if
Speaker 1: they go into Tennessee and fall to two and five,
Speaker 1: I can't with this drop. This drop is so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: Every time I hear it when I'm not here, it
Speaker 1: makes me so skittish. I can't I can't listen. That's
Speaker 1: Chaz Paganos, but it's a fake whimper. That's it is
Speaker 1: what it is, that's life in the NFL West. Just
Speaker 1: Chuck Pogano in trouble. If they can't find a way
Speaker 1: to win this game. He should be GM should be
Speaker 1: in trouble. Everybody should be in trouble except the quarterback
Speaker 1: in the running back. Yeah, they're not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to run the ball like they did last week Frank Gore,
Speaker 1: he went off. But I feel like the Titans have
Speaker 1: been able to to do well against the run they have.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be another fifty five games or so before
Speaker 1: they have a yard rusher. This analysis isn't really hard.
Speaker 1: The Titans have back to back games of six sacks
Speaker 1: and the Colts Andrew Luck has been sacked twenty three times,
Speaker 1: the most of any quarterback in the NFL. Seems like
Speaker 1: it might be a problem for the Colts offensive line
Speaker 1: in this game. And one last thing before we get
Speaker 1: out of this game, because you know, like I said,
Speaker 1: this is abut game. But um de Marco Murray explained
Speaker 1: this to me. Wes, Yes, the Cowboys drove him into
Speaker 1: the ground two years ago. And he didn't look like
Speaker 1: the same guy last year. Played an entire season. Uh
Speaker 1: looks slow. Couldn't get to the whole, couldn't get around
Speaker 1: the corner. And now all of a sudden he's back
Speaker 1: to uh, the two thousand fourteen version, and he's two
Speaker 1: years older. But what am I missing here? How did
Speaker 1: this happen? Several things going on here. By the end
Speaker 1: of the two thousand and fourteen season, in which he
Speaker 1: was Offensive Player of the Year, you could see his
Speaker 1: legs were gone. The Cowboys that used him up. You
Speaker 1: can't carry the ball, You can't touch the ball five
Speaker 1: hundred times in the season, and he touched the ball
Speaker 1: four ninety seven times. So you see this a lot
Speaker 1: with guys who have four hundred touches in a season.
Speaker 1: They're terrible the next year because their legs are gone
Speaker 1: and they're injured for a good port portion of year,
Speaker 1: and then they bounced back to a certain degree the
Speaker 1: next year. Maybe not all the way back. And also
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly's offense wasn't suitable for him. Maybe they should
Speaker 1: keep Derrick Henry a little bit more involved, just to
Speaker 1: keep ms absolutely remember how excited everyone was about that
Speaker 1: one to punch and then Murray looks so good and
Speaker 1: almost it made him made Henry irrelevant. But maybe that's
Speaker 1: maybe they'll do it this week because Lamar Miller he
Speaker 1: went off last week, he did well against them, So
Speaker 1: maybe this is the week that they get both DeMarco
Speaker 1: and Derrick Henry involved again. Anybody can run on the
Speaker 1: cool exactly. Let's move on and we'll talk about what
Speaker 1: might be one of the games of the week, if
Speaker 1: not the game of the week at least in the NFC.
Speaker 1: The Minnesota Vikings five and oh. Coming off their bye week,
Speaker 1: they head to Philadelphia to face the Eagles. And the Eagles,
Speaker 1: who were three and oh are now three and two
Speaker 1: and uh s uh? What in your mind has separated
Speaker 1: the Eagles of the first three weeks from the Eagles
Speaker 1: that that have lost their last two games? What has changed?
Speaker 1: The offensive line? Big V is a problem. Big V
Speaker 1: by Tie playing right tackle in place of suspended Lane Johnson,
Speaker 1: got worked over by Ryan Carrigan last week. Carrigan had
Speaker 1: three sex in the first half alone. Did you see
Speaker 1: his jersey after the first player the game? It looked
Speaker 1: like it went through a shredder. Carson Wentz, I thought
Speaker 1: you're talking at large V. L Large Large V was
Speaker 1: an issue. And Jason Kelsey, the center, has had a
Speaker 1: pretty bad year. He's been good in the past. Jason
Speaker 1: Peters isn't really himself anymore as all pro self. When
Speaker 1: everybody was healthy and playing well, you could hide Kelsey.
Speaker 1: Peters could play just well enough, but you had Lane
Speaker 1: Johnson and both guards playing at a really high level.
Speaker 1: Now you've got two or three problem areas on that line,
Speaker 1: and that is a recipe for disaster. You make the
Speaker 1: Redskins look like a ferocious pass rushing team. Now you've
Speaker 1: got the Vikings coming in. This is a This is
Speaker 1: the kind of matchup that can lose a game. Then
Speaker 1: I'm worried about Carson Wentz in this game. Just with
Speaker 1: you have Daniel Hunter, who's going to be going after
Speaker 1: big V Large V. Giant byes. And then like you said,
Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey, I mean, he's gonna have Lindval Joseph coming
Speaker 1: at him. Limbal Joseph can bench press Kelsey, lift him
Speaker 1: up over his head and just throw him. I mean,
Speaker 1: Kelsey is the lightest center in the league, and Limball
Speaker 1: Joseph is the best nose tackle in the league. It's
Speaker 1: a bad match. Well here, you know, colleg what what from?
Speaker 1: You're from vi Philly and you've been through a lot
Speaker 1: of tough times with the Eagles, and tell tell me
Speaker 1: what I've been through in my life, through a lot
Speaker 1: of highs under Andy Reid and a lot of lows.
Speaker 1: And you subscribe to the notion that what must what
Speaker 1: goes up, must come down. So you're thinking now that
Speaker 1: Eagles are gonna tank? Just everything started so well. But
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't think the Eagles are gonna
Speaker 1: take I would like ever to hear everyone's game pick
Speaker 1: on this one, but my pick here is the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: I think Vikings. Really, I think the Vikings are due
Speaker 1: for a loss. I respect the Vikings. I really like
Speaker 1: what they've seen. After all, they are the team of
Speaker 1: a t L team team graphic. Is this like a
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford thing that you have going on here? Listen?
Speaker 1: Do I trust Sam Bradford? Not totally. Do I trust
Speaker 1: him on the road, not entirely. This is on the road,
Speaker 1: but he's used to playing in this but he played
Speaker 1: absolutely at a mediocre level when he was in this building.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think the Vikings are gonna get
Speaker 1: picked off. And I think the Eagles are a legitimately
Speaker 1: good team and at home coming off two losses. I
Speaker 1: like the spot for Philly here. The one thing I
Speaker 1: will agree with you about is Sam Bradford. He knows
Speaker 1: the defense's weakness is probably better than anybody, so he
Speaker 1: knows that he's going to be able to exploit the
Speaker 1: heck out of that secondary plus say hell, you could
Speaker 1: say hell, I don't know, can I A? All right,
Speaker 1: He's gonna exploit the hell out of them even but
Speaker 1: this is this is going all over the place. But
Speaker 1: you have isn't stuff on Digg is gonna be back
Speaker 1: to in this game? Should for? The theology podcast was
Speaker 1: all right, and we saw de Shawan Jackson and Pierre
Speaker 1: Garson what they did last week against the Eagles. So look,
Speaker 1: I think that Sam Bradford and Steffon Diggs will probably
Speaker 1: do the same. But I mean, I'm picking the Vikings
Speaker 1: in this game. I think the slide is real. I
Speaker 1: think the Eagles are really and this matchup is terrible
Speaker 1: for them. I like the Vikings convincingly. Okay, well I'll
Speaker 1: show you guys. Is this your your lock? No? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not locking it up, you asked me, if I'm
Speaker 1: locking it up. I am not locking it up. Let's
Speaker 1: move on and we'll talk about a f C North
Speaker 1: battle between the Cleveland Browns oh and six wouldn't it
Speaker 1: be fitting, by the way, and not a fitting in
Speaker 1: a great way and not one that would but they
Speaker 1: get their first win? No, well, that would be somewhat
Speaker 1: fitting too, But wouldn't it be so Brown's If the
Speaker 1: Calves win the NBA title and then the Indians, who
Speaker 1: are now in the World Series, win Baseball's World Championship,
Speaker 1: and then the Browns drop an oh and sixteen, that
Speaker 1: would probably be though rock bottom, you would think, finally
Speaker 1: rock bottom. A long way to go. If if there
Speaker 1: was a year that they were going to do it,
Speaker 1: it would definitely be this year. In that very sismically,
Speaker 1: We're going to truly find out if God hates the
Speaker 1: Browns if that were to happen. But a long way
Speaker 1: to go for both and save it for theology. The
Speaker 1: u S. You roll in here with your handsome Henley
Speaker 1: shirt today and you and your breast cancer wearing his
Speaker 1: pin centered on your shirt, and you're talking about God
Speaker 1: and Hell and the things that you don't believe in
Speaker 1: will believe in this. The Cleveland Browns transition are better
Speaker 1: than an O and six team on some level. They're
Speaker 1: competitive and Cincinnati they haven't been the Bengals this year,
Speaker 1: not the Bengals of last year. Anyway, No, still waiting
Speaker 1: for Tyler Effort to be back. He said today that
Speaker 1: he's ready. He participated in eleven and eleven on eleventh today. Um,
Speaker 1: but he really hasn't obviously been himself because first it
Speaker 1: was the ankle, then it was the back. But today
Speaker 1: he said that his ankle it feels great. So now
Speaker 1: he's just sort of waiting on the back. And it
Speaker 1: was pouring today at practice and he was able to cut,
Speaker 1: he was able to plant that foot. Um, so he's
Speaker 1: sort of nursing him his way back. It's obviously not
Speaker 1: his decision whether or not he'll be on the field,
Speaker 1: So if he is on the field on Sunday, he'll
Speaker 1: probably be limited, I would think. Um, but this is
Speaker 1: a good matchup for a j Green because Joe Hayden
Speaker 1: he missed practice again today, so I think it would
Speaker 1: probably be him against like Tracy Howard. Is that who
Speaker 1: is there? So I don't know somebody, somebody who I'm
Speaker 1: not sure and that says a lot. So you have
Speaker 1: a j Green against him. And look, the Browns did
Speaker 1: a good job with DeMarco, so Jeremy Hill he's not.
Speaker 1: They probably won't run the ball well, so it's going
Speaker 1: to be all in the air. Brown's held DeMarco Murray
Speaker 1: down in large part because Danny Shelton, the first round
Speaker 1: pick last year, is finally playing great, uh, dominating the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. He looks like another nucleus player for them.
Speaker 1: So I think they're O and six. But they're playing
Speaker 1: everyone tough and you're finding building blocks. Christian kirk'sy at
Speaker 1: middle linebacker orright inside linebacker, Danny Shelton, Corey Coleman, who
Speaker 1: should be back in the next week or two, and
Speaker 1: Terrell Prior, who is just jumping over defensive backs to
Speaker 1: catch the balls. I think the Browns things are starting
Speaker 1: to look up, even if it's not showing in the
Speaker 1: box score. Cody Kessler looks like he's gonna stay in
Speaker 1: the starting lineup even when Josh McCown is ready to return,
Speaker 1: which is the right decision here, I think, UH. One
Speaker 1: thing to keep an eye and troll Prior such an
Speaker 1: important part of this offense. He has a hamstring issue,
Speaker 1: has not practiced yet as of Thursday, so we'll see
Speaker 1: if he practices and if he does how much on Friday,
Speaker 1: so we don't know how much. If they don't have prior.
Speaker 1: That's a major hitter there, offense, especially when pieces like go, hey,
Speaker 1: well your bill all says, and Gaby I talked to you.
Speaker 1: I figure you go, you go for sixty cashes and
Speaker 1: yaws and seven twitchdowns. Let's say you disappear. What are
Speaker 1: your big guys? He's gonna be around all Sunday. He's
Speaker 1: looking at a mirror by the way, talking to himself.
Speaker 1: There his production lives and dies with Josh McCown. He's
Speaker 1: a McCown favorite, the mccount favorite. H And also this
Speaker 1: is Hugh Jackson's first game. Uh jacks game, revenge game.
Speaker 1: We're really hazy on revenge games here. It's not our thing. Also,
Speaker 1: James White was able to run well, so maybe Duke
Speaker 1: Johnson will be able to do a good job since
Speaker 1: um Carlos Dansby is sort of struggling right now. He's
Speaker 1: struggling more in past coverage, struggling mightily in pass coverage.
Speaker 1: Perfect did two against the Patriots. There there might be
Speaker 1: something to the Hugh Jackson revenge game angle, because word
Speaker 1: around the campfire in Cincinnati was that he and Marvin
Speaker 1: Lewis had a succession plan in place, that Marvin would
Speaker 1: coach another a year or two he would take over
Speaker 1: and Mike Brown mixed it. Whoa succession plans do not.
Speaker 1: I'm staring at my shirt. It's a nice shirt. Succession
Speaker 1: plans do not always. Do you want me to get
Speaker 1: out of here? You should? I leave you two alone.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the last shirt comment was. I
Speaker 1: wasn't even looking at it. I was looking at West.
Speaker 1: Succession plans don't always work out. Because once upon a time,
Speaker 1: I will remind everyone in the world that Bill Belichick
Speaker 1: was supposed to uh replace Bill Bell Bill Parcels. That
Speaker 1: didn't work out for the Jets. Whatever, Let's move on.
Speaker 1: The guy resigns on like a cocktail napkin show some class.
Speaker 1: That was one of the most bizarre things we've ever
Speaker 1: seen in the NFL. I would love to do that
Speaker 1: resign on a cop to Yeah, um okay, Now, as
Speaker 1: we said, Greg Rosenthal UH is in London, a hero,
Speaker 1: one of the boys. One of the American boys going
Speaker 1: overseas saying it's a fight for our country or fight
Speaker 1: for the NFL. Cover the NFL. And now we bring
Speaker 1: him live from London via the phone, Mr Rosatal, What
Speaker 1: is happening? Hey, Rosie? Was my second time today talking
Speaker 1: to Connor by the way, I mean you can call me,
Speaker 1: you know, Connor Colleen. It's late at night here Dan
Speaker 1: your barnage accent. I used to think this is kind
Speaker 1: of a silly, silly thing that he does, not very accurate.
Speaker 1: It's all anyone talks like around here. It's basic chimillions,
Speaker 1: Gary barnage is around it, Greg. I appreciate that, and
Speaker 1: it's funny. Do you hear your theme song by the way,
Speaker 1: I hear its vaguely. I hear it lightly, yes, like um,
Speaker 1: there's a tambourine involved. I just did a barnage right
Speaker 1: before you came on, so it's fitting what I'm coming
Speaker 1: seeing here. And I mean it was like it was
Speaker 1: like being back out in the streets listening to what's
Speaker 1: going on in London. Gregs we did, uh, I did
Speaker 1: a hit outside of big Ben in Parliament. We've been
Speaker 1: I've been going up to the rams practice there staying
Speaker 1: at a strangely at like a five star luxury resort
Speaker 1: which is very quaint in the English countryside, with fireplaces
Speaker 1: and everything it is. It's a it's a strange place
Speaker 1: to see like three hundred pound men in like sweatpants
Speaker 1: ducking through doorways because they don't fit them at all.
Speaker 1: But but it's a it's a lovely locale. Can we
Speaker 1: throw up if anyone's watching this on YouTube? Can we
Speaker 1: throw up that board again? I just want Greg you
Speaker 1: to know how you're being described watching this show. Uh
Speaker 1: hash These are different bullet points around the NFL hero
Speaker 1: former boss rules from his throne of ease, and a
Speaker 1: lifelong contrarian. What do you think about that? Well, my
Speaker 1: first instinct was to disagree with the lifelong, but you've
Speaker 1: painted me into a corner here. Um, yeah, you're in
Speaker 1: a tough spot there. So what's you've been uh what
Speaker 1: you've been covering the Rams exclusively or both sides of this? Well,
Speaker 1: the giants will get here tomorrow Friday, uh as as
Speaker 1: we're taping this. So I've been up at the Rams,
Speaker 1: got there just in time to catch the end of
Speaker 1: them talking on Wednesday, and then was up up there
Speaker 1: at practice in uh in lovely, I don't know where
Speaker 1: it is, Twickenham Stadium stadium TWI, yeah, don't say twicken hand.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of a lot of podcasts fans though
Speaker 1: in the media. I have to say, other other guys
Speaker 1: who have their own podcast through all vaguely disappointed it's
Speaker 1: me here instead of Connor and Mark. But up, they're
Speaker 1: doing doing what they can. Um. Have you managed to
Speaker 1: stumble upon any secret Jeff Fisher meetings where he's going
Speaker 1: over his plan to go seven and nine this year? No?
Speaker 1: But um, but along those lines, you know, Steve wei
Speaker 1: Shall just say reported just now on NFL Network that
Speaker 1: that you know, you never know if they'll make a
Speaker 1: change to Jared Goff during this bye week. So depending
Speaker 1: on how case Keenum plays in this game, if he
Speaker 1: doesn't play too well, uh, it sounds like they're gonna
Speaker 1: Goff more practice reps regardless. And that's that they're getting
Speaker 1: a little closer to itching towards putting him in a lineup.
Speaker 1: And to me, that's that might be a recipe for
Speaker 1: seven nights, that might be a recipe for six and
Speaker 1: ten or five and a one. But you know what,
Speaker 1: I think even if it does mean I'm taking a
Speaker 1: step back, that would be a positive. I've I've that's
Speaker 1: been my opinion that they need to get this guy
Speaker 1: in the lineup when they think the time is right.
Speaker 1: They shouldn't hold on with the hope that they go
Speaker 1: nine and snaps having been sneak in the playoffs. I agree.
Speaker 1: And the way that Giants defense is playing lately, and
Speaker 1: the way you know, I know the Rams are coming
Speaker 1: off a good offensive game, but that was against the
Speaker 1: bang up Lions team. It would not surprise me at
Speaker 1: all for Kate Keenum to look a lot worse this week.
Speaker 1: And if and if that's the case, I do kind
Speaker 1: of think we might see goff coming out of there.
Speaker 1: By Greg, we've been reluctant to give this coaching staff
Speaker 1: much credit. Do you think Rob Boris deserves some credit
Speaker 1: for how relatively well case Keenum has played and Kenny
Speaker 1: Britt having a career year, Kenny Britt playing like somebody
Speaker 1: lit a fire under his butt too. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's fair that they've maximized what they have. And then
Speaker 1: you know the thing everyone has given Todd Gurley a past.
Speaker 1: Dan's kind of hit this note a little bit lately,
Speaker 1: like is it is it summon Todd Gurley and and
Speaker 1: watching that last game against the Lions, he had some holes.
Speaker 1: I mean he had some holes. I think it's if
Speaker 1: some of the best running backs in the league got
Speaker 1: the amount of holes that he did in the first half,
Speaker 1: they would have ripped off some bigger games, Like he's
Speaker 1: getting the five, six, seven, but he's not. I don't
Speaker 1: know what it is, but he's not making the big
Speaker 1: the big plays. I did not see what I did
Speaker 1: not see these holes you're referring to coaches film. Baby,
Speaker 1: I'm diving deep into the Rams Greig, what's going on
Speaker 1: with the defense? And m Robert Quinn. I know he's back,
Speaker 1: but they have a couple of guys that are really
Speaker 1: banged up. Yeah, they're gonna be without Tremaine Johnson, Uh,
Speaker 1: their cornerback. I think the feeling with the Rams is
Speaker 1: that their defense isn't really that bad, but their cornerbacks
Speaker 1: are terrible. Like they're putting I think they're quietly putting
Speaker 1: the blame on on that position, especially without Tremine Johnson. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: they're playing the Giants with Genora's Jenkins was on their
Speaker 1: team last year and Fisher said that he's playing better
Speaker 1: than any cornerback in the league. So I think I
Speaker 1: think they were regret letting Genora's Jenkins go. And I
Speaker 1: don't think Johnson is going to be back. He was
Speaker 1: limp around in a boot today. But yes, they do
Speaker 1: get They do get Robert Quinnbeck, which is nothing else
Speaker 1: should help Aaron Donald to who they were talking about,
Speaker 1: is now getting triple teamed sometimes on place Greg. So
Speaker 1: before we let you go here, you have to tell us, um,
Speaker 1: what are you doing out there? Like are you First
Speaker 1: of all, we want to know when you're meeting all
Speaker 1: the fans at the at the pub, you're gonna drink
Speaker 1: I'm thinking like seventy five pints and there's cobble stones.
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful when you're walking home where there
Speaker 1: a couple of months, Yeah, where's where's the big meet up?
Speaker 1: And beware of the cobble stone. Don't get cobble stoned. Alright, alright,
Speaker 1: yeah stone is more my style. But I don't know
Speaker 1: when we're going to meet up. I don't know I've been.
Speaker 1: There will be no meet up everybody. I just want
Speaker 1: you another. I am going to make it happen. Are
Speaker 1: trying to get through. I've only been here for a
Speaker 1: little over twenty four hours, and half of that has
Speaker 1: been spent in in cars and cat like the practice
Speaker 1: facilities two hours away in traffic. Uh. Then there was
Speaker 1: a lot of going around. Today. I'm going to some availabilities. Tomorrow,
Speaker 1: I'm writing some stuff. So it's it's a grand time.
Speaker 1: But Saturday, I think Saturday would be today if this happens,
Speaker 1: which it won't. If it does, I owe you an apology.
Speaker 1: In fact, I'll buy you a sandwich. Well, you know
Speaker 1: how I hate losing. You know that, So I might
Speaker 1: just hold it just to get that sand you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it was, it was on the
Speaker 1: border line. You also know that I'm not much of
Speaker 1: a planner. So no, it's not just that I think
Speaker 1: your anti social. You're not like a bar guy or
Speaker 1: a guy that likes to booze a lot. I'm saying, Uh,
Speaker 1: the planning of it, everything that goes along with it,
Speaker 1: I just I can't see coming together. That's just my prediction.
Speaker 1: That's all. This is like a challenge a little bit.
Speaker 1: The power of the Around the NFL podcast is such
Speaker 1: I think you could just send a tweet out. It's
Speaker 1: like a bat signal and just the hands. Fans are
Speaker 1: gonna come flocking from all over the There's a lot
Speaker 1: of rosy fans to Greg, so just be careful, look
Speaker 1: out for stalkers. Uh, be safe where the cobble stone?
Speaker 1: And Uh? Should we check in with you on Sunday?
Speaker 1: I don't know what the time situation is going to be.
Speaker 1: Is that not a realistic thing? Okay, so let's talk
Speaker 1: again on Sunday. I look forward to it, all right,
Speaker 1: by Greg? Let's play him out? Where did you find
Speaker 1: this music? They send our boys overseas and we want
Speaker 1: him back. We want um always back too, But we
Speaker 1: send the right ones offseas and they send a lead.
Speaker 1: I like, Greg, which war was this? World War two?
Speaker 1: W W two? The Great War? World War one? The
Speaker 1: song was over there over there? Remember that? I don't
Speaker 1: remember it. We all one more note about this game,
Speaker 1: because it's becoming a story around the league. Josh Brown,
Speaker 1: the Giants kicker, who of course, has suspended one game
Speaker 1: for domestic violence. UH situation some more came to light recently, uh,
Speaker 1: as recently as today Thursday, which has now led to
Speaker 1: the Giants decision to not have Brown travel uh to London.
Speaker 1: So I think um, Josh Brown's career with the Giants,
Speaker 1: um at the very least could be endanger now because
Speaker 1: of his domestic violence past. That more and more is
Speaker 1: coming to light. Not a good situation for the Giants,
Speaker 1: and maybe when they could have handled this situation better,
Speaker 1: I'd like to see them get in front of this,
Speaker 1: not behind it next time exactly. Let us move on
Speaker 1: and talk about another NFC East team, the Washington Redskins
Speaker 1: back here in the States. They traveled to Detroit to
Speaker 1: face the Lions, and Uh, I don't know, West, I
Speaker 1: feel like I've been on this train a little sooner
Speaker 1: than other people. That the lines are a kind of
Speaker 1: fun team. That they're not a great team, but the
Speaker 1: team if you watch their games, and they're gonna play
Speaker 1: some entertaining games, and we know Maddie Stafford is gonna
Speaker 1: be throwing the ball around and Couter is gonna be
Speaker 1: doing his Couter stuff. I'm in on this line team.
Speaker 1: They're fun to watch this year, they are fun to watch.
Speaker 1: Stafford played a brilliant game last week. According to Pro
Speaker 1: Football Focus. His accuracy rate, which factors in spiked balls,
Speaker 1: UH throwaways, was ninety three point one percent, which is
Speaker 1: about as eh as you're going to see. He was
Speaker 1: on point, and their offense is a little bit different
Speaker 1: this year. They throw mostly within ten yards and get
Speaker 1: everybody going after the catch. He did have one really
Speaker 1: nice throw on a on a free play when it
Speaker 1: was a defensive off side and hit Golden Tape for
Speaker 1: a big play Golden Tate. And I don't know why
Speaker 1: he hasn't been good all year because he looks spectacular.
Speaker 1: He looked just like the guy that had ninety nine catches.
Speaker 1: I don't know where he's been. He was right back
Speaker 1: to his old ways celebrating and being golden. Uh. If
Speaker 1: he If he's back now and your pair him with
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones, their offense is even gonna be bigger and
Speaker 1: a Quan Bolden. Also, by the way, uh it's Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 1: We cannot refer to him as Matt Stafford. That was
Speaker 1: a note that uh NFL network received. Really, yeah, I
Speaker 1: called him Maddie. Is that allowed? No? I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think it's got to be Matthew. That's why can't
Speaker 1: I call Matt Stafford. I think it's you know what,
Speaker 1: I think it is Matt Stafford kind of sounds like
Speaker 1: a frat boy from Alabama. Wasn't that what he is?
Speaker 1: Oh he's from Dallas, from Dallas and Matthew more refined.
Speaker 1: I think that's what he's going for. Sense, we have
Speaker 1: to take this seriously, Like we can't call Adam Jones
Speaker 1: pac Man, we have to call Michael Vick, Mike Vick.
Speaker 1: I mean, can't we just not pay attention to this?
Speaker 1: We could do whatever we want. And by the way,
Speaker 1: and this is one of the stranger subplots of the
Speaker 1: whole season. Uh, just like the Bills have turned it around,
Speaker 1: the Redskins are now four too. So before you know,
Speaker 1: as much as I'm saying, I think the Lions are
Speaker 1: fun and and all this stuff, and they're not an
Speaker 1: easy beat at home, we cannot discount the Redskins call
Speaker 1: in because they're winning every single week now. Not to
Speaker 1: mention Matt Jones. Look, he's been running well and he'll
Speaker 1: probably probably have another good game with Helodi Noda out.
Speaker 1: I would expect that. Plus, like the Lions don't really
Speaker 1: have a good pass rush, So Kirk Cousins, whatever you
Speaker 1: think of him, he'll probably have time to throw. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Deshaun Jackson has not practiced this week. Jordan Reed tried
Speaker 1: to practice limited Wednesday and then was held out on
Speaker 1: Thursday again, so it could be his weapons could be
Speaker 1: a little to diminished. Kirk Cousins, maybe he'll throw another
Speaker 1: touchdown to Vernon Davis, who will not fake shoot a
Speaker 1: free throw this time. Becose you can't fake shoot a
Speaker 1: free throw, but you can mimic the Incredible Hulk, which
Speaker 1: Ryan Kerrigan did three times. How arbitrary and capricious rule
Speaker 1: to follow this week? I don't know, West. Before we
Speaker 1: move on, are you ready for this? Is You're Henley
Speaker 1: ready for this? I don't know. I don't think my
Speaker 1: hens ready for this. Jelly Joe Barry revenge game really
Speaker 1: pulled that one. Let's move on another one PM game,
Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders, team of a t L runner up
Speaker 1: at the Jacksonville Jaguars. Um listen, nobody cares about my
Speaker 1: fantasy team, but in my two quarterback league, not only
Speaker 1: did I drop Marcus Mariotta and pick up Tony Romo,
Speaker 1: what else did you do my other starters? Blake Bortles.
Speaker 1: What a nightmare season? And you know why because I
Speaker 1: got sucked into our own podcast and said Flake Portals
Speaker 1: and Marcus mariottal taking me to the Promised Land. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Flake Portals has been terrible. But here we go West
Speaker 1: at home against the Raiders defense. They can't stop anybody.
Speaker 1: If ever, Jack's bill is gonna get their offense going,
Speaker 1: how about this week? I don't see it, damn. And
Speaker 1: I'll tell you you know, I think the world of
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal's quarterback index were almost always in lockstep. In
Speaker 1: his first paragraph, he writes he includes Blake Bortles among
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks who had their best game of the season
Speaker 1: last week, and I gotta tell you I thought he
Speaker 1: was awful. They didn't move the ball for three quarters.
Speaker 1: They finally come back and score seventeen points in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, with Blake Bortles relying almost wholly on defensive
Speaker 1: penalties to move the ball. It wasn't his passing, which
Speaker 1: he still has a major hitch in his delivery. His
Speaker 1: kicks his back leg out like a baseball pitcher. It
Speaker 1: takes him forever to wind up. Sydney, get the Jaguars
Speaker 1: on the phone. I want Wesley speaking with their offensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: Who's I I want West to fix this mechanical flaw.
Speaker 1: Can you do it for us? Said? You know, I'm
Speaker 1: my best Okay, Well, this is why he's getting so
Speaker 1: many balls batted down at the line of scrimmage. Is
Speaker 1: why he's throwing Alan Hearns into double coverage and taking
Speaker 1: big hits over the middle because it takes him three
Speaker 1: seconds to wind up and throw the ball. But Oakland's
Speaker 1: Oakland secondary, they've sort of struggled though. Seawan Smith. He
Speaker 1: does look so much better than he did at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the year. But yeah, they don't look good.
Speaker 1: And I have Alan Hearn's which I'm ready to drop
Speaker 1: because he's not doing anything. Nothing's working on Jackson's offense. Well,
Speaker 1: here's here's a telling stat. Alan Robinson led the NFL
Speaker 1: last year in plays of twenty or more yards. This year,
Speaker 1: he's not in the top fifty in plays of Lake
Speaker 1: Bordo is a sinking this offense. Something's got to give here,
Speaker 1: Jacksonville or nothing, or this is just gonna be a
Speaker 1: terrible game because this is the number twenty nine ranked
Speaker 1: offense and Jacksonville in the last ranked defense in Oakland.
Speaker 1: So you know, Oakland though, at four and two, uh,
Speaker 1: if they can like I've said, and one of the
Speaker 1: reasons I pushed them hard as the team of a
Speaker 1: t L is that as bad as the defense has been,
Speaker 1: they've been able to steal some games. So once you
Speaker 1: give yourself a little cushion, if you can figure some
Speaker 1: things out on defense and go from being thirty one
Speaker 1: to say twenty or so, and your offense stays your offense,
Speaker 1: you're an eleven win team in my mind. But they
Speaker 1: gotta start turning the corner a little bit here. It's
Speaker 1: getting late early. Yeah, the Raiders offensive line has looked really,
Speaker 1: really good, so Derek Carr will be able to throw.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Jags pass rage really really struggles. So
Speaker 1: I think I don't know. I've heard about their defense.
Speaker 1: What happened to Saxon? What happened to it? What about
Speaker 1: that does that beach house? We're told it's in Miami
Speaker 1: on the beach, but it's not even on the beach,
Speaker 1: And I was in Miami with one new beach from
Speaker 1: the goddamn it. Don't you lie to me. One one great,
Speaker 1: one bright spot for this defense, Jalen Ramsey. He takes
Speaker 1: it as a personal insult when you complete a pass
Speaker 1: on him, which is a sign of yeah, great quarterback,
Speaker 1: right corner and he is a great cornerback already. All right,
Speaker 1: so let's let's move on now. Hell, let's pick that
Speaker 1: game Oakland Jack's I got the offense just because as
Speaker 1: I needed to have, and Jacksonville's offense is no, I
Speaker 1: can't do it. I think Oakland and Blackjack del Rio
Speaker 1: will pull another one out of the rabbit out of
Speaker 1: the hat. Close win, two to three point win for
Speaker 1: the Raiders. I won't be picking the Jaguars again the
Speaker 1: rest of the year until Blake Bortles fixes that delivered
Speaker 1: Raiders five and two. Raiders Mark it in? Are you
Speaker 1: locking it? No, it's not my lock. It's not my lock. Oh,
Speaker 1: Mark wasn't here today. I should say he's locking in. Uh,
Speaker 1: Bengals lose to Browns. He's been talking about it all week,
Speaker 1: the brown He's picking the Browns again. He has said
Speaker 1: that the Bengals are gonna lose this game. He's locking
Speaker 1: that up. He didn't give me permission to say that,
Speaker 1: but I'm saying anyway, Mark, Mark thinks it's a lock. Alright.
Speaker 1: I respect it because you know what, and I forgot
Speaker 1: mine now, bad job. But I forgot your lock, I
Speaker 1: forgot my lock. I'm locking up. I know I am locked.
Speaker 1: I got caught up with Greg in London. I'm locking
Speaker 1: up the Giants. Uh MPs in London. Lock that up?
Speaker 1: Miss placed locks of the week. I've gotten four straight
Speaker 1: locks of the week wrong. But it's all changing. Uh,
Speaker 1: starting quite a great segment. Four straight locks of the
Speaker 1: week wrong, that's part of the sauce. Yeah, exactly. Let's
Speaker 1: move on talk about it. A f C East matchup
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, who have won four straight games. Um
Speaker 1: ever since they got beat on Thursday night by the Jets.
Speaker 1: They have turned their season around, unbeatable since and look
Speaker 1: damn good. And now they travel to Miami, damn good.
Speaker 1: And I'm believing damny neither West. Save it for the
Speaker 1: expletive podcast. Um oh you're saying damn ing damn that's
Speaker 1: theology as well. Okay, I got you anyway, Colleen. Dolphins
Speaker 1: they beat the Steelers last week and credit a nice job.
Speaker 1: Nobody thought you were gonna do that. Uh. Can they
Speaker 1: go on? And this is the reason why. And everybody
Speaker 1: thought I was crazy on Tuesday show. I was not
Speaker 1: going to fork the Dolphins yet I think they have
Speaker 1: a little run in them to make people think, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe they're not so bad. And I kind of think
Speaker 1: that run continues right now against the Bill. What do
Speaker 1: you think about this game? Okay, well, I think that
Speaker 1: you're onto something there because sure, the Dolphins um won
Speaker 1: the game in part because Ben Roethlisberger was hurt, But
Speaker 1: this was the first game all year that the Dolphins
Speaker 1: had their their entire offensive line intact. So you had
Speaker 1: Laramie Tunsil, Brandon Albert, and Mike Pouncey all there. They
Speaker 1: all had missed time at some point during the year,
Speaker 1: so that's a huge reason why j j. I was
Speaker 1: able to run. He ran for over two hundred yards.
Speaker 1: Everybody knows that by now, But in this matchup, Marcel
Speaker 1: Darius I was not aware than it's not going to
Speaker 1: play and I mean, I would think that J J I.
Speaker 1: E Is going to be able to take advantage of
Speaker 1: that matchup. Also, um, I mean, I just I feel
Speaker 1: like on the other side of things that you have
Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn. Anthony Lynn, I feel like is this year's
Speaker 1: Jim Bob Cooterer Because everybody is sort of like, oh,
Speaker 1: once Anthony Lynn came in here, everything turned around. And
Speaker 1: so it's like they want I even did like the
Speaker 1: hands in it, but it's so true. They've been running
Speaker 1: the ball well, and Lashawn McCoy looks like a completely
Speaker 1: different player in this system with whatever they're doing well
Speaker 1: they're running the ball, that's a different thing. Three touchdowns
Speaker 1: in that game last week. Here's the problem. Leshan McCoy
Speaker 1: on Wednesday suffered a hamstring injury practice and the way
Speaker 1: it was explained, not a serious hamstring injury, but also
Speaker 1: not a precautionary removing from practice one like more in
Speaker 1: the moderate range. He's right now expected as a game
Speaker 1: time call, and that's terrible news for Buffalo because this
Speaker 1: guy had hit a groove now and he is the
Speaker 1: centerpiece west of this offense. There's no doubt, right. I
Speaker 1: think what point you have to ask at what point
Speaker 1: do the injury start to mount for the Bills, because
Speaker 1: it sounds like it's trending towards McCoy not playing. Robert
Speaker 1: Woods hasn't practice, Sammy Watkins is out. Those are their
Speaker 1: three best weapons on offense. I don't know it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a tougher game than people think. They've
Speaker 1: outscored opponents fifty three over the last four games, which
Speaker 1: is flat out domination. But they're gonna be severely undermanned
Speaker 1: in Miami. Yeah, Tyrod Taylor is going to be under
Speaker 1: a ton of pressure too, so he's gonna have to
Speaker 1: get a lot of yards scrambling. You know what else?
Speaker 1: This is? Oh no, what revenge game? Wounded duck game?
Speaker 1: Not a wounded duck game. It isn't the guy who
Speaker 1: used to be the head coach and I can't remember
Speaker 1: his name, No colle, no Doug Marone. He's the coach
Speaker 1: of Jacksonville. Just pipe down, Colleen, Just relaxes. This is
Speaker 1: the guys, the Mario Williams revenge game. He's got revenge agendas.
Speaker 1: This is one of them. Can he get revenge from
Speaker 1: the bench. I don't know. I thought he'd be cut
Speaker 1: this week, but he's still there. I thought you thought
Speaker 1: you made that your locking the way I locked that up.
Speaker 1: I don't lock it up. No, I didn't lick it up.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Uh. The Baltimore Ravens. Everything
Speaker 1: was great. They were three and three and out. What
Speaker 1: goes up must come down? Three and three now now
Speaker 1: three game losing streak. They lost at the meadow Lands
Speaker 1: last Sunday to the Giants, and they stay at the
Speaker 1: meadow Lands this week to face the Jets at one
Speaker 1: in five. It's all over for the Jets. And Ryan
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick something that we were not aware of last time
Speaker 1: we were with you. He was in fact bench fits
Speaker 1: Magic fits Magic is no more. Uh. They're putting Gino
Speaker 1: Smith in the lineup, and Colleen, is that going to
Speaker 1: change anything? Uh? For the Jets on offense in your
Speaker 1: it's not. I'm sorry, I couldn't make the worse. I mean,
Speaker 1: well they yes, yeah, I think so, I mean the turnovers. Well,
Speaker 1: the problem is the Ravens are also super injured, so
Speaker 1: they so many guys that are banged up. So it
Speaker 1: won't be the same team that Gino Smith is facing.
Speaker 1: Um Terrell Suggs is out, Elvis Dumerville won't play. C J.
Speaker 1: Moseley is banged up, Jimmy se Steve Smith. Yeah, Marshall
Speaker 1: Yonda won't play. But like, the team is so different.
Speaker 1: But in terms of the Jets, I guess it could
Speaker 1: get worse with Gino. According to our Reacharch department, thirty
Speaker 1: quarterbacks have thrown eight hundred passes since uh, two thirteen.
Speaker 1: I believe in Gino Smith ranks last in every major category. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean that's the thing that has always surprised me
Speaker 1: about our colleague Greg Rosenthal, who has always thought that
Speaker 1: Gino was the guy ready to turn the corner. And
Speaker 1: I think, what happens, and some people do. And by
Speaker 1: the way, Jets Twitter come back to me. Everyone every
Speaker 1: six months or so, Jets Twitter comes after me because
Speaker 1: that's the our fan base. We're just so sad and
Speaker 1: miserable that sometimes we just consume, consume our own brute
Speaker 1: out of anger and sadness. And it was my time
Speaker 1: yesterday because I had I had the onion the state
Speaker 1: uh that I wasn't huge on the idea of giving
Speaker 1: Geno the Smith, uh, the starting job during a time
Speaker 1: where he's been, you know, running his mouth to reporters
Speaker 1: and and showing up Ryan Fitzpatrick on the sideline by
Speaker 1: acting like a goober. I didn't love the decision to
Speaker 1: give Gino this job, and I got killed for it. Whatever.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing who has a strong opinion like that.
Speaker 1: It's that's my other point. Jets fans don't come after
Speaker 1: me ever. But number ten two, number two let's spin forward.
Speaker 1: As a fan base, we thought we had to win.
Speaker 1: Now team we don't win, So now we gotta figure
Speaker 1: out what's next. And that does not mean Ryan Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: and it doesn't mean Geno Smith. How long before we
Speaker 1: can get Bryce Petty into a game and get a
Speaker 1: look at this kid? That's my The only thing I'm
Speaker 1: taking from the season now is when can I see
Speaker 1: Bryce Petty or maybe Hackenburg? That's what are you saying?
Speaker 1: Jets fans like you guys should all come together and
Speaker 1: together you will be better and that will never happening
Speaker 1: each other apart. I would love that to happen. West.
Speaker 1: You say it's pathetic, but that's what a team has
Speaker 1: to do. I'd say it's pathetic because there's no reason
Speaker 1: to think that Bryce Petty is some kind of answer.
Speaker 1: But we don't know. Nobody thought that Dak Prescott was
Speaker 1: the answer this year before he started. Not a comparison
Speaker 1: you can even make, because Bryce Petty has embarrassed himself
Speaker 1: in the preseason and Dak Prescott has played really well.
Speaker 1: You're thinking of Christian Hackenberg now I'm I'm thinking of
Speaker 1: Bryce Petty. Bryce Petty looked good in the preseason. What
Speaker 1: about the year before he well that was that was
Speaker 1: his Hackenburg red shirt year coming out of that Bailor system.
Speaker 1: He made some really nice plays in the preseason. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying Bryce Petty is the answer, but it's a
Speaker 1: waste of time right now. With Gino Smith, who's not
Speaker 1: gonna be on this team next year, that's all the
Speaker 1: Jets fans have right now. Did you hear his voicemail? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I'm checking on him. He's not doing great.
Speaker 1: This is potential to be the worst game of the week.
Speaker 1: It's a It's two teams that are middle hasn't practiced
Speaker 1: yet this week, and their passing game was broken for
Speaker 1: a large stretch of the game against the Giants. They
Speaker 1: couldn't move the ball. Why don't we move on then
Speaker 1: talk about, well, this game is not much better, but
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay bucking two and three. We don't even
Speaker 1: have Greg here to pump up the buck, so this
Speaker 1: is not much And Kaepernick, Yeah, they're traveling to San Francisco,
Speaker 1: UH to face Colin Kaepernick and the forty Niners, who
Speaker 1: have lost five straight after their annual will Look, they're
Speaker 1: not that bad. Week one performance in front of Chris
Speaker 1: Berman in the world. Um, that's a big ballabat on.
Speaker 1: But now Wes, the Niners are running Colin Kaepernick back
Speaker 1: out there, and I know it's kind of a um
Speaker 1: happy story for a lot of people because Kaepernick is
Speaker 1: his politics and the decision he's made. And you could
Speaker 1: definitely get behind him for how he's comported himself the
Speaker 1: last few months. But as a player, did you see
Speaker 1: anything as a player to to get excited about in
Speaker 1: his first start of the year. Uh, maybe his scrambling ability.
Speaker 1: This is another one I'm gonna have to disagree with
Speaker 1: Greg on. He tried to paint this picture that Kaepernick
Speaker 1: was some upgrade on Gabbett or not entirely bad, and
Speaker 1: every there's a there was a basically a hit piece
Speaker 1: on Kaepernick came out from Bleacher to Bleacher Report with
Speaker 1: undisclosed Bills players saying he's done. He'll never be a
Speaker 1: good quarterback again. That was the reaction from the team
Speaker 1: that beat him. I saw a quarterback who miss more
Speaker 1: throws than any quarterback in the league last week. Even
Speaker 1: his touchdown throw is pretty large. He missed so many
Speaker 1: throws and I like the stance he's taken. I think
Speaker 1: it's something American needs to discuss. But on the field, no,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's the answer for them. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean when you watch this team, it's really hard to
Speaker 1: pick out bright spots with in general. Um, I think
Speaker 1: the Bucks too. They just placed Vincent Jackson on injured reserve.
Speaker 1: Not like he was a huge thing or anything, but
Speaker 1: it's just like it's tough to really pull anything out
Speaker 1: of this game. That's that's great Cameron Braid, maybe Adam humphreyes,
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, but yeah, um yeah, I don't think this
Speaker 1: needs too much more discussion this game. But I will
Speaker 1: tell you was because I know you love when I
Speaker 1: start digging through the week seven research notes. This game
Speaker 1: needs it. Isn't this Greg's music? Okay? The Buccaneers have
Speaker 1: never won on a Week seven road game. Oh in fifteen,
Speaker 1: lock it up. It is what it is, doesn't anything.
Speaker 1: I'm saying it's in the research packet. I believe it's
Speaker 1: in there. It just doesn't mean anything. I'm just say,
Speaker 1: what if it was a Week eight road game? I
Speaker 1: guess you want my guests. They've been moderately more successful
Speaker 1: historically in Week eight exceven. That's a definition of a
Speaker 1: meaningless stat Hey, take it up with the media research department.
Speaker 1: Bro Doug Martin will be back in this game. I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about this game anywhere. Okay, fine, Fine,
Speaker 1: it was like Navarro Bowman, he's out. Fine, let's move on. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's go San Diego Superchargers. Oh, by the way, you know,
Speaker 1: I try. I was thinking about maybe we should work
Speaker 1: these guys, and everybody in this room is like, no,
Speaker 1: the Chargers. They're going to the Super bull Man. So
Speaker 1: we didn't even come close to forking the Charges, should we?
Speaker 1: Because yeah, because they're so good at losing like close games.
Speaker 1: Now they go to Atlanta to face the Falcons team
Speaker 1: that now four and two. Uh so they had their
Speaker 1: four game winning streak snapped, and in my opinion, in
Speaker 1: a bogus manner in Seattle, I think they I think, yes, West,
Speaker 1: You're right, they We don't know if they would have
Speaker 1: Atlanta would have finished off that drive in the last
Speaker 1: minute of that game. I like to think they would have.
Speaker 1: I think they would have moved in and hit that kick,
Speaker 1: and they should be five and one right now. So
Speaker 1: I'm not even a Falcons fan, and I'm still mad
Speaker 1: about how that game played out. So my point being,
Speaker 1: Falcons are still looking good in my mind, even despite
Speaker 1: coming off a loss, and I fully expect Colleen the
Speaker 1: Falcons to lay the wood on the charge. Yeah you
Speaker 1: disagree with me, I disagree, Okay, Okay, let's hear I
Speaker 1: disagree so much. What my lock of the week? I'm
Speaker 1: up Chargers. It is locked. It's locked in, it's loaded.
Speaker 1: Because what we do is we put things in the
Speaker 1: vault and we said we're gonna lock them up, and
Speaker 1: then we go out and get sandwiches or have a
Speaker 1: couple of bruise and we never lock it up. And
Speaker 1: that's why we keep losing these games. It will be
Speaker 1: locked up. I'm explain yourself. You gotta explain it. Just locks.
Speaker 1: I know, I'm you know, I'm getting crazy here. Uh.
Speaker 1: Nobody is a bigger fan of the Falcons than me
Speaker 1: right now watching that offense. This the team you're picking against.
Speaker 1: Nobody's Yes, that's why it's a conflicting. But I just
Speaker 1: feel like everybody is so high right now on the
Speaker 1: Falcons that this game and everybody wants to say, oh
Speaker 1: San Diego, like they've only lost a couple of games.
Speaker 1: They lost you know that they kept losing. Finally they
Speaker 1: went Finally they won. Right now starts everything. I got
Speaker 1: Joey Bosa in there, who really helps improve the defense.
Speaker 1: The offensive line is getting healthier and healthier. The Falcons
Speaker 1: really don't have a pass rush. Vic Beasley. He was
Speaker 1: great against the Broncos, but I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: that didn't even really count in that game. The Falcons look,
Speaker 1: their linebackers have a really hard time covering tight ends.
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry he came in here. He's really impressive. This
Speaker 1: rookie season for him has been awesome. So you have
Speaker 1: I mean, Greg Olsen struggled against them or did well
Speaker 1: against them. Jimmy Graham did well against them. Plus Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon is going to have a really good chance of
Speaker 1: getting going here. Yeah, maybe even like three and a
Speaker 1: half yards to carry. Listen, I'm just saying this is
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Locking in That wasn't bad. That was
Speaker 1: a pretty good explanation. I really do think. Okay, I felt,
Speaker 1: and I disagree, but Okay, the Falcon spent two weeks
Speaker 1: on the West Coast. They're tired, all right, battling two
Speaker 1: very alright, alright, alright, alright, this has shoot up potential.
Speaker 1: I follow somewhere between both of you, guys. Dan's not
Speaker 1: giving the Charges enough respect for being an offense can
Speaker 1: move the ball on anyone. Okay, they moved the ball
Speaker 1: every week, But you're mentioning a lot of these matchups.
Speaker 1: Jason Vrett's out for the year. He's gonna cover Julio Jones,
Speaker 1: who's gonna cover Mohammed Sanu, Who's gonna cover Taylor Gabriel.
Speaker 1: Not to mention the guys coming out of the backfield,
Speaker 1: Devonte Freeman and Tevin Coleman, who were the best complementary
Speaker 1: backfield in the league. I just think the Falcons have
Speaker 1: way too many weapons for the Chargers, even though Joey
Speaker 1: Bosa to me, I know Dan has been huge on him.
Speaker 1: He's a difference making kind of talent. I just think
Speaker 1: the Falcons have too many weapons. PSA and Ingraham will
Speaker 1: be able to get a lot of pressure on Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan if offensive line is really good. Is this to me?
Speaker 1: Has playing at home a hundred and seventy five yards
Speaker 1: and two touch ons for Julio Jones written all over it.
Speaker 1: One of those game plan wrecking type performances that sends
Speaker 1: a team scattered. The Charger secondary is little dicey. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think these are the two highest scoring teams in
Speaker 1: the league. Yeah, it will be Uh, it'll be a
Speaker 1: fun game to watch if you like shootouts. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Who's your picking the game? Was Falcons? You're taking the Falcs?
Speaker 1: Like it moving because I'm the biggest fan not calling.
Speaker 1: Nobody likes the Falkins more than me. Uh. Let's move
Speaker 1: on to the throne of ease, and I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what you wanna talk about. Throne of ease. Just so
Speaker 1: happens that Big Ben goes out of the lineup right
Speaker 1: before the big showdown against the Pats, So there will
Speaker 1: be no Ben Roethlisberger at Hines Field on Sunday, and
Speaker 1: maybe not for several more weeks beyond that. The initial
Speaker 1: report which he can miss his few as uh just
Speaker 1: one game, but now it's looking like a more standard
Speaker 1: type timetable for anybody that gets their knee cut open.
Speaker 1: But here we are now, Landry Jones first, Bill Belichick's
Speaker 1: defense and West I don't like the sound of that.
Speaker 1: Are you ready for a hot take on it? Needed?
Speaker 1: The Steelers should be thankful that Big Ben's not playing
Speaker 1: in this game. If he only misses is a game
Speaker 1: or two, they can look back and have plausible deniability
Speaker 1: about the fact that the Patriots were gonna whip them
Speaker 1: up and down the field. What because they can't get
Speaker 1: after the quarterback, they have no pass rush. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: is gonna sit back there and pick this defense apart.
Speaker 1: And I think that the Patriots would have won by
Speaker 1: two touchdowns no matter if Big Ben was playing. Wait
Speaker 1: a second, let's see that's a hot take. That's spicy.
Speaker 1: I just said it was hot to see you and
Speaker 1: Skips Skip Bayliss sitting up on the dais together. Because
Speaker 1: what makes you think anybody's stopping Tom Brady. I am
Speaker 1: not defending that. I think you are probably absolutely right
Speaker 1: that the Patriots can drop a forty burger here potentially,
Speaker 1: But when the Steelers are right, nobody can stop them either.
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying we were kind of robbed of
Speaker 1: the potential really fun offense versus offense battle. I think
Speaker 1: you're underselling the Patriots defense among the top five I
Speaker 1: believe in scoring defense in the NFL. Are number two.
Speaker 1: There you go, So I think, yeah, you're you're really
Speaker 1: underselling what they've done this year. I just think the
Speaker 1: Patriots are the better team by quite a it in
Speaker 1: this matchup, and I don't think the Steelers have the
Speaker 1: defense to contain to even hope to contain Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and Grin and Martella's Ben and Needlman and James White.
Speaker 1: I will say this was and you know I hate
Speaker 1: to say so. Once they meeted to get in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: the Steelers can say, hey, we didn't have Big Ben
Speaker 1: that game. We can feel good. It's a pretty saucy
Speaker 1: take I like to take. I like to take because
Speaker 1: you can get the stamp of approval. As much as
Speaker 1: I as much as I hate to admit it, it
Speaker 1: does feel like it's a chess checker situation with the
Speaker 1: Patriots and the rest of the a f c UH
Speaker 1: is as good as the Steelers can be when everything
Speaker 1: is clicking. The Pats are just a well rounded team.
Speaker 1: Until you know Tom, the gradual decline starts, which could
Speaker 1: be any week now, just watch out stand stand by
Speaker 1: my preseason statement that they won't lose a game with
Speaker 1: Tom Brady in the lineup this year, through the playoffs
Speaker 1: as well, all the way, they will not lose a game.
Speaker 1: Where do you come down on this one. Uh, Connie, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, without big Ben, that offense is gonna
Speaker 1: have trouble. The onus is on Levy on Bell to
Speaker 1: really run the ball or just be more involved. He wasn't.
Speaker 1: He didn't run the ball um as many times as
Speaker 1: I thought he would last week when um when Big
Speaker 1: Ben went down. I think I think with big Ben
Speaker 1: under center, they like to use him more as a receiver.
Speaker 1: Now they're going to have to use him as a runner.
Speaker 1: They yeah, they have to. I think they only ran
Speaker 1: him like ten times last week. I had to look
Speaker 1: it up. But it's a totally different offense with Landry
Speaker 1: Jones and it. Yeah, and we saw what it is
Speaker 1: last year and we're very experienced watching this team with
Speaker 1: Larry Jones. Landry Jones and they should get Larry Joes.
Speaker 1: Somebody get Larry on. There was a power for it
Speaker 1: in the NBA in the seventies and eighties named Larry Jones.
Speaker 1: I think his nickname was Mr Mean. One last now
Speaker 1: that was Larry Smith. Alright, disregard everything I said. Okay,
Speaker 1: one last thing before we move on West. It's a
Speaker 1: La Garry Blunt revenge game. It is, so he's gonna
Speaker 1: get revenge for the Steelers letting him go, and then
Speaker 1: he went and picked up a ring in New England. Yeah,
Speaker 1: something like that. All right, let's move on Sunday night football.
Speaker 1: You know, we've had some bad games on in primetime
Speaker 1: this year, but you can uh sleep well heading towards
Speaker 1: Sunday knowing that we have a nice NFC West battle there. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll get to it, all right. We set it up
Speaker 1: for us before you chop it down. The Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 1: four and one, Uh, coming off, Yes, that controversial win
Speaker 1: over the Falcons, and they're building now. They travel to
Speaker 1: Glendale University of Phoenix Stadium to face the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: and uh West, we talked about this earlier today. Uh.
Speaker 1: Even though the Cardinals beat up on the Jets, there's
Speaker 1: still not a lot to get truly pumped up about
Speaker 1: about their offense or really where they're at right now,
Speaker 1: right not knowing that, but it might be a bad
Speaker 1: game to watch. Parson Palmer has a hamstring injury and
Speaker 1: hasn't practiced yet this week, So yeah, that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a bad game at Drew Stanton starts. But I think
Speaker 1: this is a team that has has to be a
Speaker 1: David Johnson Larry Fitzgerald offense. We talked about this coming
Speaker 1: out of the Monday Night game, that they can't protect
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer. They can't they can't really do anything against
Speaker 1: blitz Is this year because Palmer is not moving well
Speaker 1: in the pocket and he's not gonna be moving well
Speaker 1: with a hamstring injury. So this is gonna have to
Speaker 1: be David Johnson. And we saw what happened in weeks seventeen,
Speaker 1: even though the Cardinals weren't really trying as hard as
Speaker 1: they would in a meaningless game last year, Seahawks absolutely
Speaker 1: shut David Johnson down. This is this, and this is
Speaker 1: also comes from our research notes, which ties into what
Speaker 1: you're saying. Seahawks have no fear of going to Arizona either.
Speaker 1: They've won the last three straight games between these teams
Speaker 1: combined score one oh five to thirty four. Seattle always
Speaker 1: travels well, but especially in Arizona. They don't go there
Speaker 1: and get intimidated by the scene. Seattle is the better team,
Speaker 1: I think. But Russell Wilson, he still doesn't really look healthy,
Speaker 1: he's not running as well. He's past pretty about that
Speaker 1: past much though for Arizona being an equalizer with a
Speaker 1: golden and Jones coming off the edges. I like that
Speaker 1: bookend pass rushers, something they lacked last year definitely, and
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. He'll be able to get the ball to
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham. I think that um Doug Baldwin will probably
Speaker 1: be taken out of it by Patrick Peterson, but I
Speaker 1: mean they'll I don't know if it will. It might
Speaker 1: be a good game. I'm hoping so trying to talk
Speaker 1: myself into it a little bit, even though last Sunday
Speaker 1: Night was a poor Mark Last Sunday Oh yeah, Mark
Speaker 1: a Mark. Mark was catatonic when that game went to overtime. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know that wouldn't I wouldn't say that was a
Speaker 1: great game. We're overdue. I'm also I'm kind of appealing
Speaker 1: to the football gods. You know what. I'm even going
Speaker 1: next level West, stand down. Dear Jesus, please, I am
Speaker 1: so bored of watching these bad games on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Al Chris and Michelle Tafoya tell him or give us
Speaker 1: a great game on Sunday night. That's all I ask.
Speaker 1: I Love Jesus, Dear Buddha, oh Wes, please follow suit. Buddha.
Speaker 1: Is that where we're coming from now? I mean, we
Speaker 1: have to save it, but yeah, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: we have to save it, but you can do it. Dan, fine,
Speaker 1: your religions, all right, but mine's not. Yeah, imagine no,
Speaker 1: all right, let's pick this game Seattle at Arizona, Colleague
Speaker 1: Um taking Seattle's Seattle Christian Kristen Michael's National breakout game.
Speaker 1: You think it's happened on the National Radar out plays
Speaker 1: David Johnson in this game. Who I could totally see
Speaker 1: that happening. I love that you kind of I will
Speaker 1: lock it up. You're locking it up, locking it up.
Speaker 1: Kristen Michael out produces David Johnson in this game. I
Speaker 1: will say this, Wes and Kristin Michael has had some
Speaker 1: nice moments this season. For the for the Awakening, for
Speaker 1: Seawoke to truly be sup thing that you predicted properly,
Speaker 1: we need a big time game here. I let the
Speaker 1: record stand. I predicted this properly. I'm talking we want
Speaker 1: him to run for thirteen fourteen under yards. In fact,
Speaker 1: I predicted both running backs in this game properly, and
Speaker 1: Terence West so stick it is as he lived up
Speaker 1: to all this shout out of a cannon when you
Speaker 1: watch him run, Okay, he's averaging what almost five yards
Speaker 1: per carry and the rest of their running backs are
Speaker 1: averaging under two yards per carry. That puts it in perspective.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I wouldn't say it statistically. Is blowing
Speaker 1: the league away at this point. His game films blowing
Speaker 1: the league away. Okay, all right, the eye and the
Speaker 1: Sky doesn't lie, Dan, Trust your eyes next August. When
Speaker 1: you see a running back running like Kristin Michael, trust
Speaker 1: your eyes. All right. Well, I I stand by. I
Speaker 1: need a hundred and fifty yards out of him. If
Speaker 1: you're gonna talk him up like this, I want to
Speaker 1: see a dynamic performance. All the I and the Sky stuff.
Speaker 1: Give me the numbers on the paper. The world revolves
Speaker 1: around Dan Hanson is expect as. All right, last game,
Speaker 1: little Monday night football, and uh, here we go. Yeah
Speaker 1: it is the brock Oswalder well or the John Elway
Speaker 1: revenge games. Somebody's definitely a revenge game. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: brock Oswalder, who was groomed to take over for Peyton Manning.
Speaker 1: Uh opted to take more money to go to Houston
Speaker 1: and is now the the Texans starting quarterback. And but
Speaker 1: you know what ball teams are foreign to so you think,
Speaker 1: oh that everybody things worked out for everybody. I don't know.
Speaker 1: We're gon. We still have to see, um, Colleen, if
Speaker 1: Brock Oswalder is the guy, and this will be a
Speaker 1: big referendum against the best defense in football or the
Speaker 1: a f C against his old team with all the
Speaker 1: motivation in the world, Brock's gotta do something here. I
Speaker 1: don't think Brock is gonna look like the guy in
Speaker 1: this game. This is gonna be tough for him. The
Speaker 1: Broncos they have Gary Kubiak back, he's getting He's well
Speaker 1: rested now he's trying to get more sleep. And look,
Speaker 1: you have Gary Kubiack and Wade Phillips who know him
Speaker 1: really well. They know his tendencies. This defense is going
Speaker 1: to be able to exploit him. Plus Trevor Simeon. He
Speaker 1: has another week to get better. Um, he didn't look
Speaker 1: one percent healthy last week. And like, I just feel
Speaker 1: like the Texans aren't the team that they were stocked
Speaker 1: and loaded to be in the off season. They don't
Speaker 1: look like it right now. Their defense isn't as dominant
Speaker 1: as they was as they were J. J. Watt that
Speaker 1: injury really hurt them. And I just don't think Lamar Miller.
Speaker 1: I mean, he did well against the Colts last week,
Speaker 1: but the Broncos that's a totally different story. Yes, it
Speaker 1: will not be that easy against Denver, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Three Revenge is all on Denver side in this game.
Speaker 1: How is brock Oswarre gonna need revenge after that he
Speaker 1: was gifted thirty seven million just because he played for
Speaker 1: the Broncos. The defense can't be happy that he left
Speaker 1: him high and dry and basically thought he was too
Speaker 1: good for them. I think is it a thank you game?
Speaker 1: I don't think thanks I don't think we have thank
Speaker 1: you games? Do we in the National Football League? Never better?
Speaker 1: How about this worst case scenario? By the way, Brock
Speaker 1: is bottoming out playing the way he did for three
Speaker 1: and a half quarters last Sunday night, and we here
Speaker 1: we we look over to the pan, over to the
Speaker 1: sideline and there he is putting on the helmet and
Speaker 1: get loose Tom Savage baby again? One more is one
Speaker 1: of my favorite drops. West Well, Tom Savage started game
Speaker 1: this year not injury related, No question in my mind?
Speaker 1: Whoa is that a lock. I don't know, Like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know, there's got to be like a step
Speaker 1: below a lock. I just brock us while it does
Speaker 1: nothing for me, I don't think he's the answer. He's
Speaker 1: got some mettmburger DNA and let's see that. That's uh.
Speaker 1: Will Fuller is dealing with the hamstring issues, so he's
Speaker 1: I feel like he's not as fast either as he was.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the fact that this is being played in
Speaker 1: Denver two is not a G eight situation for Brock.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was in Houston. You can talk yourself into
Speaker 1: it a little bit, but you get the feeling not
Speaker 1: only is a guy that's been a scattershot player, but
Speaker 1: also on the road, crowd going nuts, noise of fact,
Speaker 1: A lot of this is not shaping up well for
Speaker 1: the Texans here. Yeah, the Texas Rundy wasn't able to
Speaker 1: stop Frank Gore, so c J. Anderson he should be
Speaker 1: able to run. So he hasn't been doing much either
Speaker 1: since No, but maybe this is the game that he does. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're talking about more Davante Booker this week. Again. Interesting
Speaker 1: all right, I think we all have Denver in the
Speaker 1: Monday night. Yes, Okay, So there you go. That is
Speaker 1: our uh preview of all the Sunday games and the
Speaker 1: Monday night uh affair. The next time you hear from us,
Speaker 1: we will be breaking down all the games that we
Speaker 1: just previewed. That's how the wheel operates. Colleen. Thank you?
Speaker 1: What goes up? I don't know? Does that work? Not? Really?
Speaker 1: You are a hero both real and uh figurative. Sure
Speaker 1: sure about that? Mixed signals. You're getting mixed signals signals.
Speaker 1: When I turned the corner and I'm I'm ripping Chris
Speaker 1: Martin shoes, I got iced tea in my cup there. Well,
Speaker 1: everybody was asking you what's in the solo cup? Dan?
Speaker 1: I thought it was lean. I do like the idea
Speaker 1: of like eight thirty in the morning, pouring some whiskey
Speaker 1: into a solo cup and driving to work blasting cold Play.
Speaker 1: It all makes sense. That sounds like it sounds like
Speaker 1: a guy that is panicking about the child number two arriving.
Speaker 1: All right, that's it until Sunday night. Uh. This is
Speaker 1: Dan Hansons signing off for Connie Fox, the Mailman, uh,
Speaker 1: Gregg Rosenthal from London, and of course the wonderful La
Speaker 1: Seed behind the glass. Thanks everybody, behind the bus till Sunday. Yeah,
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