Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is trapped underneath the Geno Coaster. Well,
Speaker 1: welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and
Speaker 1: Greg Rose Ithal. What's up boys? Hey Dan? This is
Speaker 1: our last opportunity to spend quality time with Greg Rosenthal
Speaker 1: for the next a few days, Greg, who will be
Speaker 1: getting on an airplane shortly and heading toward the United Kingdom,
Speaker 1: specifically London, England as he provides street coverage of the
Speaker 1: international series. That's right, I like that. All my music
Speaker 1: is very Royal, the Throne of these this song, you
Speaker 1: know you're getting comfortable in your own skin as sort
Speaker 1: of an elitist. Actually you known from Royal Also come
Speaker 1: and ride the train by the Quad City DJs. I
Speaker 1: like that one. Yeah, We're I'm going to uh not where.
Speaker 1: Don't say we're We're not going anywhere. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: right here, thank you, third floor. Let's unpacked us. Are
Speaker 1: there any hard feelings between you and Greg because he's
Speaker 1: going to London and you're not between Greg and I
Speaker 1: absolutely not. You know, I don't like to go anywhere.
Speaker 1: Number one. Number two, My wife is eight and a
Speaker 1: half months pregnant, so this wasn't really even in the
Speaker 1: cards for me, uh this year, to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: unless we would have all gone to the first International
Speaker 1: Series game a couple of weeks back. So absolutely no
Speaker 1: bad blood. Mark and Greg is a little different because
Speaker 1: I think my vibe on the situation West is that
Speaker 1: Mark thought after last year's trip that he had established
Speaker 1: himself as kind of the go to around the NFL
Speaker 1: guy for London correspondent, you know, for this to be
Speaker 1: like taken out from under his feet, I don't see
Speaker 1: it entirely that way. Connor was with me too, and
Speaker 1: I guess it's a message to Connor and I that
Speaker 1: we had not produced, we didn't produce well enough. They're
Speaker 1: gonna send someone different, and I and I get that.
Speaker 1: That's how it works. If you don't get the job done,
Speaker 1: you don't go the next time. That's how life works.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you're taking it well. I have. I have
Speaker 1: felt guilty about it, like it only I felt very
Speaker 1: guilty being able to go. I got to live up
Speaker 1: to you know, Connor and what Marks. This is the
Speaker 1: first head this is the first I've even heard that
Speaker 1: Greg was going to and even mentioned it to us. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's a wonderful event. I got to go.
Speaker 1: So I feel, if anything, you've got to keep going
Speaker 1: down the list so that everyone has a chance. And Greg,
Speaker 1: now is a good opportunity for you to let everyone
Speaker 1: in London know which tavern you'll be at to meet
Speaker 1: all the fans. Rams Giants are the two teams plane.
Speaker 1: I don't know any tavern, Twickenham Stadium, Twickenham Stadium. I'm
Speaker 1: getting off the plane. I'm going to the plane. Now,
Speaker 1: get off the plane, go right, go right to RAMS
Speaker 1: practice on Wednesday. I'm gonna be writing a lot RAMS Giants.
Speaker 1: I don't really know what taverns, but we'll we'll we'll
Speaker 1: set something up and I figure it out. We'll say
Speaker 1: you are you're cutting it a little bit close. It's
Speaker 1: two fifteen. You actually castigated uh Sydney behind the glass
Speaker 1: before we started sid Can we add that at the
Speaker 1: end of the show, just so one could hear what
Speaker 1: Greg sounds like when he's shouting down Chris Berman. Uh
Speaker 1: two people helping out the show. Yeah, anyway, let's get
Speaker 1: this show going because Gregg does have a flight to
Speaker 1: make a flight by the way. One last note, Henry Hodson,
Speaker 1: the Handsome Hank will also be on Handsome Hank, though
Speaker 1: will be in business class. Greg and coach Greg your thoughts. Look,
Speaker 1: you rise to the top of the company like Henry
Speaker 1: Henry does. I got I got no problems with that.
Speaker 1: Be careful of one thing I got on. I'm excited
Speaker 1: because I get to He told me if I get
Speaker 1: to the airport early enough, which is not gonna happen now, Sorry,
Speaker 1: you're not getting an airport early thanks to Sydney h Head.
Speaker 1: Henry said, let me know because he's hanging out in
Speaker 1: the like cool person's lounge ahead of time, and I
Speaker 1: can That's what I call it. That's gonna fizzle up quick.
Speaker 1: I had a male model or the cool person's lounges.
Speaker 1: He's pretty cool. Just kidding, Henry, I'm not absolutely I
Speaker 1: am not telling this story. Hit me up on d
Speaker 1: M or email me at Mars dot Sessler at NFL
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Speaker 1: v Netherlands. Today's show chock full of NFL content. Monday
Speaker 1: night football recap between the Arizona Cardinals and New York Jets.
Speaker 1: We're gonna hit up the news, see what's going on
Speaker 1: around the league. We will reconvene the fork Committee. The
Speaker 1: get the Danish. We had the coffee, uh, the locks
Speaker 1: of the bagels, English muffins, English muffins in honor of
Speaker 1: Greg's trip that we're not going on um and we
Speaker 1: talked about which teams are gonna be forked, which means
Speaker 1: they have no chance of making the playoffs. We've already
Speaker 1: done five and we're gonna probably add to that list
Speaker 1: would be my guests. So we're gonna have a fork
Speaker 1: Committee convention and then uh, the Thursday night football preview Chicago.
Speaker 1: Beart is back in primetime. Everybody get excited. But let's start,
Speaker 1: folks with some Monday night football talk. Yes from University
Speaker 1: of Phoenix Stadium in Glendale. The Arizona Cardinals needed to
Speaker 1: get right, and luckily they had the New York Jets
Speaker 1: coming to town. The New York Jets team that from
Speaker 1: the start looked overmatched against the Cardinals, especially on the
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. Um. Let's get a listen
Speaker 1: here at just one of the many highlights for the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals on Monday night. Second down, They're gonna run
Speaker 1: it left side, David Johnson across the forty five. Great
Speaker 1: poop of the right at the fifth he cuts back
Speaker 1: to the left of the forty. He's listen to the thirty.
Speaker 1: He's at the twenty ten. The street ends. The Cardinals
Speaker 1: finally score the first quarter. It's a David Johnson fifty
Speaker 1: eight yard touchdown run. David Johnson, baby a hop, a
Speaker 1: skimpy john and then hit the Jets. What great patience
Speaker 1: by David Johnson on that. Yeah, We're happy for you Jets. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that. David Johnson scored on runs of fifty
Speaker 1: eight too and two yards, and I must add he
Speaker 1: was not touched, literally not touched by Jets defender on
Speaker 1: any of those runs. Final score twenty to three. A
Speaker 1: game in which Ryan Fitzpatrick was pulled halfway through the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter in favor of Geno Smith and uh and
Speaker 1: I will say, even as a Ryan Fitzpatrick's supporter, it
Speaker 1: was perhaps overdue within in this game with the Jets
Speaker 1: now one in five UH and the Cardinals are three
Speaker 1: and three, and this was a nice, get healthy win
Speaker 1: and we'll see if they're able to build on this.
Speaker 1: But the Jets now one in five UH. For all
Speaker 1: intents and purposes done uh cooked, Which made me think,
Speaker 1: Greg Uh. And I know you are big Geno Smith fan.
Speaker 1: We all know that that with the season essentially on
Speaker 1: the line, they should have maybe got Gino in the
Speaker 1: game sooner here to see if it could spark an
Speaker 1: offense that was going nowhere in the first half. I
Speaker 1: would have loved to seen that. I thought you saw
Speaker 1: some quick throws, you know, at a Genou right away,
Speaker 1: and then some mistakes at g I'm not gonna you
Speaker 1: can't take too much away from that drive. But I
Speaker 1: don't think it would have mattered because they have no
Speaker 1: run game, they have no real pass protection, they're stuck
Speaker 1: in third and longs. That Cardinals defense and their past
Speaker 1: starch has become a real strength of that team, and
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have mattered if Geno Smith and Ryan Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: are in that game. I don't think they're gonna be
Speaker 1: that competitive the way it looked last night. If this
Speaker 1: is the Chris of the Jet season. It's also the
Speaker 1: game that made me realize that Cardinals are never going
Speaker 1: to recapture what they had last season. They have to
Speaker 1: play a different style, and I think Greg mentioned this
Speaker 1: in his fantastic debriefing article that he does on the
Speaker 1: debrief they're They're two best offensive players are David Johnson
Speaker 1: and Larry Fitzgerald. And they can't run that deep passing
Speaker 1: game because the offensive line can't protect Carson Palmer long
Speaker 1: enough and frankly, Palmer isn't moving in the pocket nearly
Speaker 1: as well as he did last year, So that deep
Speaker 1: passing game is gone. It's just David Johnson and Larry
Speaker 1: Fitzgerald is this offense, and it can be complimented by
Speaker 1: a much better defense this year. I think that gets
Speaker 1: after the passer a little bit better than they did
Speaker 1: last year. This is a weird takeaway, but towards the
Speaker 1: end of the game, I just was watching Bruce Arians
Speaker 1: last night and something just seems a little off with Arians.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that he's obviously had some health
Speaker 1: issues going into the year, but the whole Cardinals team
Speaker 1: just You're right, it's not able to recapture the magic
Speaker 1: from last year. That's said, there's a lot more if
Speaker 1: you're a Cardinals fan then the other NFC title contender
Speaker 1: from last year, which was the Panthers. There are a
Speaker 1: completely different operation in this game for them. They needed
Speaker 1: it and they got it decisively. Well they I think
Speaker 1: they had a different outlook going against Todd Bowls. Maybe
Speaker 1: that was part of him being a little weird. He
Speaker 1: talked about after the game he didn't really enjoy joy
Speaker 1: it too much because he was playing his close friend
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles. They also knew that the Jets were really
Speaker 1: going to try to take away the deep pass, and
Speaker 1: you this team looked like the Chiefs. I mean, you
Speaker 1: do not see the Cardinals go eleven plays, fourteen plays,
Speaker 1: sixteen play, touchdown drive. You never saw that last year.
Speaker 1: But it worked. And you know what good coaches adapt,
Speaker 1: They can win a lot of games. I think with
Speaker 1: the best running back in the league and in a
Speaker 1: decent past one of them him and Bell Right, what
Speaker 1: I like to do during the game is text you
Speaker 1: know Greg and Dan and West and just asked, wait,
Speaker 1: is David Johnson a good player? Like just to be
Speaker 1: a year and a half behind the curve on this
Speaker 1: because he looked amazing last night, and we praised the
Speaker 1: pay a Treat's all the time for finding out who
Speaker 1: they are on offense around mid October and starting to
Speaker 1: pick up from there. Well, maybe the Cardinals do that
Speaker 1: as well. They thought they could do what they did
Speaker 1: last year. No, you have to shift, and they've got
Speaker 1: the running game and the running back to do it.
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at the Arizona Cardinals upcoming schedule
Speaker 1: now three and three and if this is um where
Speaker 1: they're still trying to figure it out to be five
Speaker 1: hundred through weeks six there, Okay, let's see what happens
Speaker 1: at home on Sunday night against Seattle. That will be
Speaker 1: a great litmus test for them. Uh, then at Carolina,
Speaker 1: which we don't even know what that game is anymore,
Speaker 1: but that's a pretty tough one to punch potentially. Then
Speaker 1: there bye week and they come home with a cupcake
Speaker 1: against the forty niners and then travel to Minnesota then
Speaker 1: to Atlanta back to back weeks. So this is gonna
Speaker 1: be uh as a test if this is not the
Speaker 1: same team West and they are not. And maybe this
Speaker 1: was a bit of a mirrage because the Jets are
Speaker 1: such a mess Uh, the Cardinals are still in a
Speaker 1: lot of trouble if they don't pick up their play.
Speaker 1: We shall see, and we should check in with my
Speaker 1: old man and my dad, the guy who taught me
Speaker 1: so much about the world and uh also made me
Speaker 1: a Jet span. Let's check in with dad. Uh see
Speaker 1: what he had to say about this game. Now, his
Speaker 1: name is Key, He's Danda, non't doubt about it. He's
Speaker 1: a big Jets fan. What is he going to say?
Speaker 1: Bill game today? What is he going to bullpen? Game today?
Speaker 1: Jets game six? Five point feeding by the hours around
Speaker 1: of the Cardinals. H the Jets looked like a team
Speaker 1: that didn't want to play and uh, the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: just demolished them. Um, not much to say about this game.
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick his last days of glatitude, or at least appearance. Uh,
Speaker 1: growing off the field is sort of concerning to me.
Speaker 1: But maybe that's just as low key attitude. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's the end. Um my dad. Uh yeah, I hate
Speaker 1: to hear my dad like that. But the Ryan Fitzpatrick's situation,
Speaker 1: let me just wrap before we move on here. Uh,
Speaker 1: my dad is out unfits now. At least he's deeply
Speaker 1: frustrated by the demeanor on the field as everything crumbles.
Speaker 1: And I will say this, I think if if the
Speaker 1: Jets now going nowhere feel like they should be going
Speaker 1: in a different direction, I can't get into the way
Speaker 1: of that. But at the same time, anybody and now
Speaker 1: the people that love to have fun at the Jets
Speaker 1: expense on Twitter, we're having a ball last night. But
Speaker 1: the thing with Fits was before Week seventeen, fourth quarter
Speaker 1: last year, thirty one touchdowns, twelve interceptions, passer rating over
Speaker 1: ninety almost four thousand yards. That guy was a special
Speaker 1: guy in the franchise's history for one season. So I
Speaker 1: have no regrets that he came back and they they
Speaker 1: let that contract situation play out, and they actually made
Speaker 1: the right move I thought still by bringing him back.
Speaker 1: But at this point it seems like the magic is
Speaker 1: gone and I can't. I can't fight And even if
Speaker 1: they put in Geno Smith now, if they feel like
Speaker 1: they need to put somebody else in there, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: fight it. They're not gonna go into next week. But uh,
Speaker 1: it tells you a lot about Geno Smith, who was
Speaker 1: being a goober on the sideline. Again, I number one,
Speaker 1: I would much rather see Bryce Petty than Geno Smith.
Speaker 1: I would love to listen to Greg. I know you're
Speaker 1: a fan of Geno Smith, but part of the issue
Speaker 1: you make a change because it's ball protection and Geno
Speaker 1: Smith is a turnover machine and that's what he's always
Speaker 1: been and I think that he's not part of this
Speaker 1: franchise after this season. Secondly, it's very hard to see
Speaker 1: your dad if you're a son. Very hard to see
Speaker 1: a parent, but especially a father struggle and that that
Speaker 1: was hard to listen to. Dad's okay. I mean, we're
Speaker 1: used to this. So he woke up in the morning,
Speaker 1: he went on with his life. But that was one
Speaker 1: of the draining loss in a very disappointing season for
Speaker 1: the Jets. I can't remember, honestly another season where I
Speaker 1: was this disappointed in how the team came out. I
Speaker 1: thought they these the first six games, that if they
Speaker 1: could get to three and three, you they'd be okay.
Speaker 1: One in five was the worst case scenario that I
Speaker 1: never thought could have happened. And this is where were
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of hope long term because a
Speaker 1: lot of the key guys are older guys, right, you know,
Speaker 1: even Marsh Marshall's their best offensive player right now. You
Speaker 1: know he's he's getting up there in years. You're throwing
Speaker 1: the ball the peak and Anderson and the running game
Speaker 1: needs to be remodeled, and the gutt on fumes right
Speaker 1: Nick Mangold Harris, they were almost built to make a
Speaker 1: run like right now, but without the most essential Chris.
Speaker 1: He's not having a good year, by the way, Uh,
Speaker 1: he probably won't be back there next year. So yeah,
Speaker 1: the linebacker Wilkerson on the way, he signed a long
Speaker 1: term deal. You're thinking of Sheldon Richardson. I didn't actually
Speaker 1: look bad yesterday. But anyway, let's let's move on depressing
Speaker 1: situation with the Jets. But plenty of other things to
Speaker 1: talk about, guys, so let's get to it and talk
Speaker 1: a little news. I'm done with the tablets about just
Speaker 1: can't take it anymore. Um. That's Bill Belichick, who, uh,
Speaker 1: in his press conference on Tuesday, took issue with some
Speaker 1: of the sideline equipment. Let's start, folks, when talk about
Speaker 1: the big Ben injury. Ben Roethlisberger, UH is going to
Speaker 1: miss some time at least one week after that knee
Speaker 1: injury he suffered on Sunday turned out to be a
Speaker 1: situation that required surgery. This all came down right as
Speaker 1: we were finishing our podcast on Sunday, so our first
Speaker 1: chance to talk about it. West but a torn meniscus
Speaker 1: and his left knee. He won't play against the Steelers.
Speaker 1: We're talking about the throne of ease, moron, But West? Uh? Big?
Speaker 1: Ben out to the Steelers? Are they one of the
Speaker 1: teams at the top of the list that go from
Speaker 1: stud team to complete also ran as soon as the
Speaker 1: quarterback gets hurt. I think the distance between Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: and Landy Landry Jones is the widest margin between starter
Speaker 1: and backup in the NFL. And this the Steelers have
Speaker 1: had salary cap problems which have prevented them from upgrading
Speaker 1: at backup quarterback for the past what half decade, knowing
Speaker 1: they have one of the most injury prone starters in
Speaker 1: the league, and they've rolled out Bruce greg Kowski and
Speaker 1: Landry Jones, two of the worst backups. And Landry Jones
Speaker 1: every time I watch him, I remember tweeting in the preseason, God,
Speaker 1: I hope I never get assigned another Steelers preseason again
Speaker 1: again ever, because I can't watch Landry Jones. But well,
Speaker 1: and we killed We killed Jerry Jones and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: for last season having a bunch of junk behind Tony Romo,
Speaker 1: who was known to be brittle. And the Steelers deserve
Speaker 1: the same criticism because you're right, this has been an
Speaker 1: issue that's popped up for them, whether it was a
Speaker 1: suspension for Ben Roethlisberger or whether it was you know,
Speaker 1: multiple injuries. You're gonna have to put someone in there
Speaker 1: every season for a game or two, and the a
Speaker 1: f C North comes down to a game or two. Right,
Speaker 1: they do this every year. They miss stars, whether it's
Speaker 1: Levy and Bell. You know, Westling pointed out this happens
Speaker 1: to them, and they all so blow games like a
Speaker 1: game in Miami that the other teams like the Patriots
Speaker 1: or the Broncos that you're potentially fighting for seeding with,
Speaker 1: are gonna win those types of games. And now the
Speaker 1: Steelers are looking at a game where they're certainly, you know,
Speaker 1: heavy underdogs at home with Landry Jones. Now they're four
Speaker 1: and three. They're gonna come out of that by you know,
Speaker 1: the Ravens gotta be thinking we could be four and
Speaker 1: three with a matchup against the Steelers were right there.
Speaker 1: The Bengals, who have been really lost this season, totally
Speaker 1: frontloaded schedule, their schedule gets much easier. They got the
Speaker 1: Browns this week. They're three and four. They're thinking we
Speaker 1: could be tied for first place at the midway point.
Speaker 1: Brown still totally alive because of what's happening in Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: as well. I'm not gonna go there. This injury could
Speaker 1: keep West of Us alive for another year. That's really
Speaker 1: what the pantom line of the whole season really is,
Speaker 1: sort of centered around this one day West drinking celebrations.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it doesn't have to involve drinking. It seems
Speaker 1: to last year. It did not. I covered the game
Speaker 1: last year. That's true. I drank that day though, so
Speaker 1: someone did. Thank you. Moving on, gentlemen, uh, The NFL
Speaker 1: will review Vante's perfix hit on Martellis Bennett, the Patriots
Speaker 1: tight end took a cheap shot from behind um in
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati New England tilt this past weekend of The
Speaker 1: review will follow the standard procedure, but rap Sheet reports
Speaker 1: that we should be expecting a big, big fine, but
Speaker 1: not necessarily suspension for perfect too, of course, was suspended
Speaker 1: the first three games of this season's for his behavior
Speaker 1: U last year West, I know you feel passionate. There's
Speaker 1: now more to the story. Mike Reece of ESPN Boston.
Speaker 1: He he founds tape or my guess is somebody leaked
Speaker 1: to him tape of Vante Perfeck apparently stomping on the
Speaker 1: Garrett Blunt while Blunt was on the ground. Blunt gets
Speaker 1: up and starts pushing Vontes. Bengals say, look, the referees
Speaker 1: didn't see it, any kind of stomping going on. But
Speaker 1: this is part of the course, and I don't think
Speaker 1: a player who is the benefit of the doubt. They
Speaker 1: are now talking about the Blunt incident and that could
Speaker 1: lead to a suspension. But this is a guy who
Speaker 1: before the whistle is a headhunter and after the whistle
Speaker 1: turns into a heel from professional wrestling, starts working on
Speaker 1: different body parts all the time. So this is this
Speaker 1: is his mL. He had so so many problems on
Speaker 1: the Up to the Minute show hosted by Andrew Siciliano
Speaker 1: and Fridays by Patrick Clayban. Everyone should watch this one
Speaker 1: pm Pacific, four pm Eastern every day from our news room.
Speaker 1: He had so many out of his mean it was
Speaker 1: you know, oh God forbid, we uh we promote a
Speaker 1: little NFL network? Why not? Vante's perfect? He had so
Speaker 1: many behavior problems that they have to have two boards
Speaker 1: of it. You couldn't fit all of all of his
Speaker 1: fines on one board. I like bad boys once in
Speaker 1: a while in my sport. Right on, there's a well,
Speaker 1: there's a drop we need to save for the future.
Speaker 1: I know, cut it off right at I like bad boys.
Speaker 1: I don't like him in an FC are though, I like.
Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from, Mark, but when you're
Speaker 1: diving at the back of a guy's knees, you're messing
Speaker 1: with his like well from that you know, from that angle, yes,
Speaker 1: seem perfect. Bad boys to own me a little bit bad.
Speaker 1: I want them to have a little a hint of badness.
Speaker 1: I would like if he played this up a little
Speaker 1: bit more and embraced the heal character, whereas right now
Speaker 1: he's just out to hurt people. Yeah, and doesn't the
Speaker 1: team need to do something You would think so, But no,
Speaker 1: the apologies just keep spilling out of Cincinnati from the
Speaker 1: owner right on down. I like this pump pump off West.
Speaker 1: It does because they've enabled this guy since he came
Speaker 1: into the league. We're talking about a guy who had
Speaker 1: twenty two flagrant penalties in thirty seven games at Arizona State,
Speaker 1: contributed to a slide all the way out of the
Speaker 1: draft when people thought he was a first or second
Speaker 1: round talent because you couldn't keep under control. And the
Speaker 1: Bengals just make excuses for him all the time. I
Speaker 1: think certain things of the Bengals in West is that
Speaker 1: deep in his mind he wants things to justify his
Speaker 1: reason for leaving the team, even though he likes a
Speaker 1: lot of things about the team in the last the
Speaker 1: last five six years. So when something like this happens, like, okay,
Speaker 1: could not be more erroneous in this situation, and there
Speaker 1: is no player in the league like Vontes perfect, He's
Speaker 1: just allowed to be a renegade in the Bengals do
Speaker 1: nothing about it. There was a there was a wonderful
Speaker 1: week a couple of years ago where West was back
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati and filed like a heat seeking report on
Speaker 1: the Bengals with a Cincinnati date line, and I thought,
Speaker 1: we need to get this guy back home taking his team,
Speaker 1: rubbing them over the coals every day. I liked the tension,
Speaker 1: rubbing the well, raking them or rubbed them. I don't care.
Speaker 1: Do what you want to do a little central. It's
Speaker 1: like something that happens. Maybe maybe there's a healing process
Speaker 1: here them some hot coals. Get over here with those
Speaker 1: hot coals, rubbed them on me. It's different than Ray
Speaker 1: come over in the car. All right, m Budsman. Moving on,
Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys have the best kind of problem. Uh.
Speaker 1: Two quarterbacks that a lot of teams would die to have,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, the dynamic young rookie, and Tony Romo, the
Speaker 1: old veteran coming back from a back injury. Uh. Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: who previously had been steadfast in his assertion that Tony
Speaker 1: Romo will be back in the lineup, it seems like
Speaker 1: more and more the organization is backing off that as
Speaker 1: a definite situation. Here's what he had to say about
Speaker 1: the situation, uh, this week for someone that many years
Speaker 1: has been in um after game situations where he didn't
Speaker 1: know what we were gonna do at quarterback and as
Speaker 1: um late as probably a training camp, not know where
Speaker 1: we were going at quarterback after Romo got hurt, and
Speaker 1: to be sitting here with Dak playing a test level
Speaker 1: and Tony getting better and better and better. Um it is, uh,
Speaker 1: I have to pinch myself, pinching himself. He doesn't have
Speaker 1: to make a decision. Right. They can sit back, relax,
Speaker 1: kick back in their offices, wait two weeks while they're
Speaker 1: on by and enjoy the whole football world talking about
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott and they'll just wait until
Speaker 1: they need Tony Romo. Well, this is setting up, you know,
Speaker 1: slope playing it. You know what. However, they want to
Speaker 1: publicly justify it. We want to get him back his
Speaker 1: strength is and back this or that. They have been
Speaker 1: out front saying no, there's no question the second he's ready.
Speaker 1: Now they're starting I don't even think now they're not
Speaker 1: even hiding that. They're saying, look, we're in this great situation.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna let things play out how they're gonna
Speaker 1: play out, and we don't need Tony Romo now, so
Speaker 1: we're not gonna do anything about it. And I don't
Speaker 1: nor they're not just hiding it. Stephen Jones weeks and
Speaker 1: weeks ago at the beginning of the year, after the
Speaker 1: promising preseason by Dak Prescott stated openly that you know,
Speaker 1: it's possible that this could be a Bledsoe Brady type situation.
Speaker 1: So I think that they couldn't be more delighted. Outside
Speaker 1: of New England. Everyone in the league would love to
Speaker 1: have this situation. And if you're Jerry Jones, you finally
Speaker 1: think you have a chance to win one more title
Speaker 1: before the whole thing wraps. I do wonder what do
Speaker 1: you mean the whole thing wraps? Because Jerry Jones is
Speaker 1: not going to be running the cow Bays at this
Speaker 1: level for another two or three decades. They just pried
Speaker 1: their they pried their Super Bowl way open, the window
Speaker 1: way open with this draft big time maybe MO. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I am and finally justified being on national television
Speaker 1: twelve times a year. Let's take this. Don't you think
Speaker 1: they have one of the best nuclei in the league?
Speaker 1: Now I do? And you take that offensive line is
Speaker 1: Equel Elliott and Dak Prescott and Dez Bryant. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: got a better nuke. It's a great lesson that these
Speaker 1: teams that continue to draft poorly and sabotage their fan
Speaker 1: base in their franchise for years on end. If you
Speaker 1: draft well like the Cowboys have, suddenly you're here. By
Speaker 1: the way, it is not a nuclei. It's a flock
Speaker 1: of nucleus. Moving on, Morgan news for the New York Jets,
Speaker 1: Eric Decker, who we knew had been moved to I
Speaker 1: R with a shoulder injury, a torn rotator cup. Uh.
Speaker 1: That surgery will will come, but first he has to
Speaker 1: recover from a hip operation that he underwent on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: The time table is a little murky here. The recovery
Speaker 1: time for the hip surgery is six months. Uh, and
Speaker 1: they were gonna They're gonna wait until he gets off
Speaker 1: crutches from the hip surgery, and at that time he'll
Speaker 1: have the shoulder surgery, which will slideline him for eight months. Now. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're hoping he's ready for the start of next season,
Speaker 1: like the Doomsday Brigade. Uh over A p FT filed
Speaker 1: a post today that that his entire twenty seventeen season
Speaker 1: is in jeopardy. I don't know about that, but we
Speaker 1: will see. But either way, Eric Decker and any football
Speaker 1: player and hip surgery not a good thing. So the
Speaker 1: hits keep on coming. The greatest hits FETs for the
Speaker 1: Jets in Oh and Oh, by the way, Dennis Bird
Speaker 1: died in a car accident on Saturday. The most inspirational
Speaker 1: Jet of all time See you Later, two thousand sixteen.
Speaker 1: Don't let the door hitch on your ace. Doomsday Brigade
Speaker 1: should be the name of the the season any video
Speaker 1: for the Jets this year. It was actually the third
Speaker 1: album by Delaware. We didn't really talk about Decker much
Speaker 1: in the review of Monday Night Football. I know if
Speaker 1: that was intentional, I didn't get a note on that.
Speaker 1: But his loss in this offense brings them closer to
Speaker 1: where they were two seasons ago, when they had Decker
Speaker 1: and no Marshall and they were this wide receiver crew
Speaker 1: that simply couldn't move the ball. A lot of the
Speaker 1: reason you mentioned fits his stats from last year in
Speaker 1: his production had to do with that tandem. That duo
Speaker 1: of wide receivers are very effective. Hopefully he gets back,
Speaker 1: because yes, when Decker and and Marshall were clicking last season,
Speaker 1: it was the best one to combination in the meadow
Speaker 1: lends for the Jetson's Crabet and key shan Uh. Let's
Speaker 1: move on. It is the one year anniversary, folks of
Speaker 1: the perhaps the worst play call in NFL history. Let's
Speaker 1: listen to it. Oh yeah, now we've got about a
Speaker 1: fourth down and three. You got Griff Whalen ready to
Speaker 1: take the snap. He'll snap, but actually Colt Anderson is
Speaker 1: behind him. What in the world flag is down? There
Speaker 1: is absolutely no way possible that they should have snapped
Speaker 1: that ball and tried to sneak it. There were three, four,
Speaker 1: five guys around two players. That was insane. Uh. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to point that out. One year ago Today's
Speaker 1: Sunday Night Football and one theory and I wrote this
Speaker 1: up on the old end around NFL dot Com slash
Speaker 1: end around probably the two worst plays in uh, the
Speaker 1: NFL in this millennium where Millennia I was flock of Millennia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: uh is okay? The Griff Alan Colt Anderson fake punt
Speaker 1: and of course the butt fumble. Both happened in primetime,
Speaker 1: Both happened with Alan Chris at the mic, and both
Speaker 1: happened with the Patriots as the opponent. Do you think
Speaker 1: playing under the lights against the Patriots in Big Bad
Speaker 1: Bill causes teams to do funny things? Just a little theory,
Speaker 1: it's good connecting the dots. I think there might be
Speaker 1: something to that paranoia strikes deep anything your mind. It
Speaker 1: will create. Uh that's what's happening in the news. All right,
Speaker 1: let's uh convene the for kevity. All right, this is
Speaker 1: where we stand. Final boarding call for flight eight seventy
Speaker 1: seven to London. This is your final boarding call, all right,
Speaker 1: So here we go. We have five teams have been
Speaker 1: forked already. The New Orleans Saints, the Jacksonville Jaguars both
Speaker 1: two and three, both have two straight since we forked.
Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears and San Francisco forty nine is both
Speaker 1: one and five h and the Cleveland Browns oh and six.
Speaker 1: I'm looking at this list, Greg, The Jags are the
Speaker 1: only one that gives me pause, just because their division
Speaker 1: is so But but what about the Saints. I know
Speaker 1: you like the Saints. Do you think there's any chance.
Speaker 1: I think there's a chance. It's a small chance. I
Speaker 1: give the Jaguars a better chance. I think any team
Speaker 1: that's second in the league in points, you know they
Speaker 1: have something good about them. They know how to score,
Speaker 1: they have a good a great passing it. You know
Speaker 1: that could they scrape out nine wins and sneak into
Speaker 1: the playoffs as possible. It helps that the league is
Speaker 1: more watered down and in some cases unwatchable than ever.
Speaker 1: I gotta, by the way NFC is, I think gotta
Speaker 1: be tougher in the end to get into the playoffs
Speaker 1: in the a f C. But that's just that's just
Speaker 1: a guess right now. Thank you for bringing that up, Mark,
Speaker 1: because we give where I have been a little hard
Speaker 1: on Will McDonough for replacing Mike Tarico. Sean McDonald Sean
Speaker 1: mcdonnah excuse that his son, by the way, it is
Speaker 1: U Sean mcdonalugh. But he did, uh stick it to
Speaker 1: the the NFL a little bit in the Monday night
Speaker 1: telecast by the officiating which was atrocious in that Jets
Speaker 1: um Cardinals game yesterday. Maybe that's playing into the ratings
Speaker 1: dip as well. Uh So, good job sewn because he
Speaker 1: might have gotten a phone call for that, he might
Speaker 1: have He lost. He lost his job by all accounts
Speaker 1: as the play by play guy on the Red Sox
Speaker 1: for being quite critical of the team and when new
Speaker 1: ownership came in, they kicked him out the door. And
Speaker 1: some reports out there the NFL is gonna do some
Speaker 1: games in China. Let's let's focus on what's going on
Speaker 1: inside a little period of isolationism right now for the NFL.
Speaker 1: How about that you wouldn't want to I would look
Speaker 1: the period of isolation. Just let's figure out who who's
Speaker 1: the Trump supporter here? You're a doctrine. You're throwing us
Speaker 1: as the Trump supporters the other night. This is sounding
Speaker 1: rather familiar. What are you gonna build a wall? You
Speaker 1: can only play football on the inside. Listen, my little
Speaker 1: boy toy quarterback is not the one voting for Trump,
Speaker 1: but I will I will say you don't know who
Speaker 1: he's voting for. He's publicly supported Its magnifico. That's disc anyway.
Speaker 1: My point being, don't go to China. Make the games better?
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. So your peace scale greg
Speaker 1: on those five of teams, one being your pants are
Speaker 1: totally dry, Uh no need to change any of your underpants. Uh. Ten,
Speaker 1: got to find a place to change all your under
Speaker 1: pants and also your pants. Well what would would twenty
Speaker 1: be like a flood? And that's allowing three teams you
Speaker 1: you forked to get into the playoffs because that's what
Speaker 1: happened last year. That's pooping yourself on your wedding day
Speaker 1: at the altar. Uh, I would say my scale would
Speaker 1: be a three. Okay, now, Dan, one question, changing all
Speaker 1: your underpants? What is the person in multiple and I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know. They've had some problems with incontinence, so
Speaker 1: they wear multiple pairs of It's like the anti Mark Sessler.
Speaker 1: You know, alright enough, next segment, Mark famously the only
Speaker 1: thing separating us from Mark's junk. I don't slice the denim.
Speaker 1: By the way, most a lot of people that live
Speaker 1: in California which absolutely subscribe to uh my dress Svens.
Speaker 1: Have you taken a survey? No? I don't take surveys
Speaker 1: on this, nor did I expected to pop up on
Speaker 1: a podcast that broadcast to like different nations. All right,
Speaker 1: here we go. So those five teams are out. I
Speaker 1: will now, gentlemen, uh, let you know that there are
Speaker 1: twelve teams in the league with a losing record right now,
Speaker 1: and and so the in the Jags, Saints, Brown's Bears,
Speaker 1: and four nineties or five of them. So there's seven
Speaker 1: teams right now with a losing record. So let's just
Speaker 1: go through those teams and then if you guys want
Speaker 1: to nominate any of the teams. At five hundred Arizona,
Speaker 1: Baltimore Detroit l A, New York Giants, and Tennessee feel free.
Speaker 1: But I'm just gonna focus on the teams of the
Speaker 1: losing record right now, and we might as well UH
Speaker 1: start UH with the defending NFC champion, a team that
Speaker 1: went UH on seventeen and two last year, but right
Speaker 1: now they're one in five, one of two, one in
Speaker 1: five teams we'll talk about here the Carolina Panthers. Are
Speaker 1: we ready to say so along to a defending NFC champion?
Speaker 1: We've never done that before this soon. I have too
Speaker 1: much respect for them, and they've been one of the
Speaker 1: streakiest teams in the NFL over the past two years.
Speaker 1: They are the three time defending division champions and in
Speaker 1: the division and never had back to back winners. I
Speaker 1: have too much respect and had a similar start in
Speaker 1: one of those division championships where you only won uh
Speaker 1: seven games to to win the division title. And I
Speaker 1: know we all like the Falcons, but you can't tell
Speaker 1: the future, and you never know, nine wins, eight wins
Speaker 1: might win this division for all we know. Things change fast,
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't want to fork. I. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I think I want to see one more week from
Speaker 1: Atlanta and at one more ugly loss for Carolina if
Speaker 1: they if Carolina stumbles one more time, you gone all
Speaker 1: that does? That feels relatively safe? We want to be daring.
Speaker 1: We should fork them right now, but none of us
Speaker 1: want to do it. I'm not ready to fork them either.
Speaker 1: I do believe they have a run in them, but
Speaker 1: I also probably would have wagered my firstborn that they
Speaker 1: would not lose five of six to start the season.
Speaker 1: So who knows what happens with this team? Didn't just
Speaker 1: go around wagering yeah, Jack checks, like not really, come on, bro,
Speaker 1: no one even brought it up, and you just threw
Speaker 1: me out. Really, you're right, to be honest, We're not.
Speaker 1: We don't live in a society. Would you just stamble
Speaker 1: your children? I would discuss it with my wife, like,
Speaker 1: why would you get if you were right? Though? And
Speaker 1: this that's what I'm saying. What if it was one
Speaker 1: billion dollars and you were completely certain? Can't completely certain
Speaker 1: that you could. I've never been a father, but I
Speaker 1: would think that you can't put a price on your son.
Speaker 1: I could agree with you on that, right. You know what,
Speaker 1: everybody get off your high horses. Oh it's a high
Speaker 1: horse to say, oh, you're right, let's be common men
Speaker 1: and sell our children over a Carolina Panthers football wager.
Speaker 1: All right, here we go. So their scheduled, by the way,
Speaker 1: is not too tough. The next four games before they
Speaker 1: have a double banger at Oakland, at Seattle home to Cardinals,
Speaker 1: at Rams home to Chiefs, home to Saints. So the
Speaker 1: rare double banger, yeah, they can do some They can
Speaker 1: do some damage potentially and get up to five near it.
Speaker 1: So let's keep Carolina safe. Next up as my New
Speaker 1: York Jets one in five. The schedule is much much
Speaker 1: more manageable. But that was the thing that I said
Speaker 1: before the season started a couple of times, since it
Speaker 1: was these six games, they needed to win at least
Speaker 1: half of them. Get out of the three and three
Speaker 1: anything worse, you were in trouble. If you go one
Speaker 1: and five, you're done. They got a lot of problems
Speaker 1: with Jets. We don't see them making any type of
Speaker 1: miracle run do we We're not stop you. They have
Speaker 1: the worst point differentially in the NFL, and Gino Smith
Speaker 1: has entered the conversation they're done. Yeah. That that was
Speaker 1: one where football outsiders had them thirty first two weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and I thought, Wow, that that's really surprising that they've thought.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not like they're doing any thinking, it's
Speaker 1: all it's all just data in terms of their drives
Speaker 1: and everything. I think their defense has been even worse
Speaker 1: than it's been talked about. I mean, I know, the secondaries,
Speaker 1: it's been one of the worst defenses in the league.
Speaker 1: I think the if pure numbers, something's got skewed in
Speaker 1: that Kansas City game with the six picks eight turnovers.
Speaker 1: But yeah, no doubt about. They can't score points and
Speaker 1: they can't fend very well. There's so many problems the
Speaker 1: Jets are forked. I could see him win in six
Speaker 1: or seven games. That's that's the problem. Well, doesn't mean
Speaker 1: gonna make the playoffs. They do that too often. I
Speaker 1: kind of would rather than just tank and then we
Speaker 1: get a great draft pics. So a lot of Jets
Speaker 1: fans in that last night on Twitter. They always end up,
Speaker 1: you know, winning six to eight and you're out of
Speaker 1: that top three spot. Which well Gino's were three or
Speaker 1: four wins on his own. So for the yeah, for
Speaker 1: which team, Greg, please, that guy is a goober by
Speaker 1: the way throw, you know, throwing his hat on the sideline,
Speaker 1: shouting loudly. You know everything you know is about Geno.
Speaker 1: This isn't isn't. No, it's not at all. But he's
Speaker 1: never seen it. No, that that was greg doesn't believe
Speaker 1: in the effect. Gregor's a double agent who would love
Speaker 1: the Jets to continue this Geno Smith romance. I mean
Speaker 1: it was Dan even admit it was time last night,
Speaker 1: but that sideline act was honestly the most annoying thing
Speaker 1: Gino Smith's ever done. I believe that's a very high bar,
Speaker 1: all right. Next up the Sandy Ago Superchargers at two
Speaker 1: and four. Obviously, this is a team that could be
Speaker 1: five and one. Gentleman, uh and yet they are two
Speaker 1: and four. This can be a quick conversation. There's no
Speaker 1: freaking way this is one of the best teams in
Speaker 1: the league. On in no forking them. They have led
Speaker 1: and they're not really they might win the division. I
Speaker 1: think they have an outside chance to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: One of these teams were discussing is gonna do something
Speaker 1: really weird? Right? They the craziest that they have led
Speaker 1: their games by an average of six points at any
Speaker 1: point in the game that's second in the league. I mean,
Speaker 1: most of their stats are with top five to six
Speaker 1: types of teams. Obviously, you got to learn how to
Speaker 1: finish out games and their next two weeks or at
Speaker 1: Atlanta at Denver. So you know they're gonna it's gonna
Speaker 1: be hard for them to split those. They gotta get
Speaker 1: something down a little bit. They gotta they gotta split those.
Speaker 1: I know that they should have won those games, but
Speaker 1: that's what teams do that aren't great teams. They blow
Speaker 1: game after game and now you've got to killer road matchups. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll say, well, I feel like we'll be talking about
Speaker 1: the charges again in a few weeks, but we'll say
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong. Next up the Miami Dolphins, another two
Speaker 1: and four team. We were just saying less than a
Speaker 1: week ago they were the worst team in the NFL.
Speaker 1: They beat the Steelers in a game. You gotta give
Speaker 1: him credit for it, but Big Ben gets hurt West
Speaker 1: the does a change your your thoughts on them at all?
Speaker 1: After that went over the Steelers to keep them alive.
Speaker 1: Now these are stinking dogs. M for the only reason
Speaker 1: they still exist on this podcast is because you were
Speaker 1: trying to stick it to Hank and you refused to
Speaker 1: fork them. You want to You wanted to watch them
Speaker 1: dangle for a few weeks. I was having a little
Speaker 1: fun with that. I wasn't quite prepared to fork him
Speaker 1: now at that point. But if I look at this,
Speaker 1: they really dominated that game, even before Roethlisberg got hurt.
Speaker 1: In terms of their offensive line, I think they found
Speaker 1: a good running back in a giant Ryan Tannehill, for
Speaker 1: all the problems he's had, is throwing the best deep
Speaker 1: ball of his career. That's usually the one thing that's good.
Speaker 1: But they just last for Shot Jones for the year West.
Speaker 1: I know you said that's their best player since to
Speaker 1: start strong safety in the NFL. I'm ready to fork
Speaker 1: them anyways, I am not ready to fork them. I
Speaker 1: think I gotta I gotta. I think they gotta run
Speaker 1: in them that will get them to five. This is
Speaker 1: getting to be I don't know if it's a bit,
Speaker 1: but I really like it's I'm not ready yet. I
Speaker 1: think they I don't want them to get back to
Speaker 1: five and then be like, why did we do that? Well?
Speaker 1: I don't even believe this, but I honestly do think
Speaker 1: they're hosting the Bills this weekend, so that there and
Speaker 1: then they have a bye that could that could? You know?
Speaker 1: For a couple of bad Miami teams usually have one
Speaker 1: run and uh you know, then they usually crash back
Speaker 1: down to earth again. But I'm just not ready yet.
Speaker 1: I want to make sure they're dead before I say
Speaker 1: they're dead. And not just my opinion. That is annoying
Speaker 1: because I want them out of my life and you
Speaker 1: have the power to keep them in my life. Not really,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about him either way. Um, I'm not
Speaker 1: being promotional with this. So you saved the Dolphins. I
Speaker 1: guess I saved the Dolphins. How about that again? Listening
Speaker 1: hack twice? You saved the Dolphins? Uh? Was I alone
Speaker 1: last time? Really? That's weird? Alright. The Indianapolis Cults also
Speaker 1: two and four, coming off just a dreadful loss uh
Speaker 1: at Houston. But at the same time, once again a
Speaker 1: butt division the a F C. Sell And and the
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the division by far. Yeah, and the
Speaker 1: first place team is led by brock Oswidler. Fair enough, Mark,
Speaker 1: It's very boring, but yes, I'll keep them around, all right.
Speaker 1: Next up, a team near and dear to Chris Westling
Speaker 1: start even sometimes private moments of crisis in terms of
Speaker 1: faith and faith abandoned. The Cincinnati Bengals two and four.
Speaker 1: No evidence at the same Bengals of last year, especially
Speaker 1: with all those missing pieces on offense. Uh and yet West,
Speaker 1: you still think there's a chance they can get a
Speaker 1: little hot and make a run, right. Yeah, They've got
Speaker 1: some issues the offensive line for one, the running game
Speaker 1: for two, and their linebackers, which are terrible in past coverage.
Speaker 1: That's the third issue. But the Steelers don't have a
Speaker 1: quarterback right now. The Ravens are three and three, and
Speaker 1: the Steelers and Ravens play each other. The Bengals have
Speaker 1: a chance to make up some ground in the next
Speaker 1: few weeks. Yeah, I look at the next three weeks,
Speaker 1: Brown's home loss, Redskins home game, and then a bye week.
Speaker 1: So it's not hard to imagine us entering week ten
Speaker 1: and there four and four. What will we say when
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson executes a big old w on Marvin Lewis
Speaker 1: a lot of Brown's wins this year. I have to say, I,
Speaker 1: you know, I will be right probably once I'd be happy.
Speaker 1: I want the Browns and the Jets to win some games.
Speaker 1: It's lighter in here on a Sunday. But we just
Speaker 1: talked about the fact that the the a s C.
Speaker 1: North is open for business for three or four teams,
Speaker 1: So to fork the Bengals would be a tad contradictory
Speaker 1: to what we just said twenty twenty minutes ago. I
Speaker 1: am emotionally disconnected from this Jet season. So you're not
Speaker 1: gonna me dark like weeks seventeen last year. It just
Speaker 1: won't happen. I'm I'm I I get it. Way to
Speaker 1: protect yourself, Dan, thank you. The last team we'll talk
Speaker 1: about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers two and three. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know Greg's boys, but really don't seem to be going
Speaker 1: anywhere this season anyway. But Greg, your thoughts on the
Speaker 1: Bucks at two and three, well, they've been a lot
Speaker 1: worse than I ever would have imagined. Uh, they're lucky
Speaker 1: to be two and three. They easily could be one
Speaker 1: and four. Um, and I think teams can change though
Speaker 1: in the season. That's why we always get these wrong
Speaker 1: that you know we keep I listened to our podcast
Speaker 1: the other night, and you know we have these thoughts
Speaker 1: of like this is what this team is for this year,
Speaker 1: and we and we just know from experience, So many
Speaker 1: of these teams are gonna have such different stories in
Speaker 1: six weeks. They're gonna they're gonna have totally different narratives.
Speaker 1: Do I think the Bucks, who I believed in before
Speaker 1: the season, could turn around. Absolutely, We're not forking this team.
Speaker 1: I went fork the Bucks with Gusto. This is a bad,
Speaker 1: bad football team, and I agree they they're gonna have
Speaker 1: to totally change. I agree they can change. They can
Speaker 1: get a lot worse the rest of the season. They've
Speaker 1: got injury problems. For come with Gusta. The Bucks are terrible.
Speaker 1: They are worse than they were under Lovey Smith right now,
Speaker 1: and listen, you don't have Doug Martin, you don't have sins.
Speaker 1: I get all that, but I mean what we're talking
Speaker 1: about this is a playoff team. That's the exercise. They
Speaker 1: are not a player. I think I think that I
Speaker 1: think Winston can be a playoff type of quarterback. I
Speaker 1: think the injuries that they've had some of the a
Speaker 1: lot of those guys are coming back. I mean they
Speaker 1: have been and I are on two write not not
Speaker 1: all of them, but some of them are coming back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just you need a whole lot to happen in
Speaker 1: the end, and then here's nine of them becoming even
Speaker 1: an average. Here's this bigger thing there two and three
Speaker 1: as bad as they've been there two and three. I
Speaker 1: think the Titans after four weeks were the worst team
Speaker 1: in the in the league for those four weeks, but
Speaker 1: they had some things that were okay. They've started building up.
Speaker 1: They had snuck out one of those wins. Then the
Speaker 1: schedule gets easy. Suddenly they're three and three and things
Speaker 1: are looking pretty good. I think that can happen for
Speaker 1: the box. I mean for your sake, because this is
Speaker 1: the team that you have about fourteen sandwiches riding wins,
Speaker 1: and let's keep him around. I'll keep him around for
Speaker 1: another week. I don't have a problem with it. That's
Speaker 1: not up to you anyways, it's gotta be unanimous. Well, wow,
Speaker 1: he's you were trying to mark, honestly, and what happens
Speaker 1: to get snapped? That's true, I got sydneyed. Greg. Please
Speaker 1: report to the gate for final boarding. This will be
Speaker 1: your final boarding call, right, you really should go, by
Speaker 1: the way, we were urging you to leave you alright,
Speaker 1: So as soon as you leave the studio, we're forking
Speaker 1: the bucks. Here we go, so we just we have
Speaker 1: forked one team today, the New York Jets, which gives
Speaker 1: us six teams forked in all and uh, I might
Speaker 1: as well since i'm here, Greg, you're making me uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go either. Go Greg, We're to get to
Speaker 1: the airport twelve minutes before the airplane leaves. But you're
Speaker 1: flying to a different country. Get there. It wouldn't be
Speaker 1: sad about it. Let's play Greg off. All right, guys,
Speaker 1: have fun. Thank you, thank yourself, Thank you. I hope
Speaker 1: you're not really mad at anymore. I'm not. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go anywhere right now, staying right here in
Speaker 1: California until he gets a couple of drinks and it's
Speaker 1: gonna come off my fault. I'm gonna try. I'm gonna try.
Speaker 1: I do feel a responsibility to do. Uh do a
Speaker 1: really good job. I know you feel that too. There
Speaker 1: are narratives being constructed. Don't worry, You're fine, fly off.
Speaker 1: Have fun. It's giving me the I'm not at all.
Speaker 1: Have fun. Have fun. Right, I'll see you, guys. You
Speaker 1: might as well do a little Jets eulogy. Here and
Speaker 1: here lies the New York Jets, a win now team
Speaker 1: that had no idea how to win now. They are
Speaker 1: survived by Browning, Nagle, Louis Aguiar, Chad Gascadden, Leon Washington,
Speaker 1: Me and my dad, Come Flowers and Jeff Cumberland and
Speaker 1: little Flowers. Please provide my two sons, both born and unborn,
Speaker 1: with a chance. You read into that however you want.
Speaker 1: Just give him a chance, a chance that I didn't have.
Speaker 1: Whether that's the Jets becoming a team that you could
Speaker 1: be proud to root for at some point, maybe they
Speaker 1: get their Belicheck, or maybe they do become fans of
Speaker 1: another franchise. I can't I can't fight them too if
Speaker 1: they don't want to root for the Jets. What what
Speaker 1: are the Jets given me? Yeah? I mean just to
Speaker 1: point out, you just put your dad on blast for
Speaker 1: the one lone parenting mistake he made, which was having
Speaker 1: you be a Jets fan. So are you looking to
Speaker 1: continue that on another generation? You know what, I don't
Speaker 1: even blame my old man because it was nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: and the Jets were still you know, about ten eleven
Speaker 1: years or moved from Namoth. He didn't know how bad
Speaker 1: the next thirty five years would be I now know
Speaker 1: what's going on here. There's something very dark. There's a
Speaker 1: funk around my favorite team, and I you know, if
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Speaker 1: Mark accidentally sent higher the rant of a madman, uh
Speaker 1: to the entire newsroom where you meant to send it
Speaker 1: to yourself. Was it just to print it out? Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the way that uh the word is set up
Speaker 1: on my Mac is that you seemingly you cannot print
Speaker 1: something unless you send it to someone first comes out
Speaker 1: with sixteen. It's a little odd and you know we've
Speaker 1: all done this. Uh, you sent something wide and you
Speaker 1: you realize it was a disastrous move, and you just
Speaker 1: I felt like a flush of hot nerves and blood
Speaker 1: rushed through me as like multiple like executive figures came
Speaker 1: out of their office like Cessler. What's that? I imagine
Speaker 1: like Aaron cost really jumping onto a look and reading
Speaker 1: the rantings of a Uni bomber Mark's manifesto. It's a
Speaker 1: wild thing to be sent wide as well. It's it's
Speaker 1: concerning um all right, let's oh, you know what I
Speaker 1: want to do? Speaking of the Panthers, who we did
Speaker 1: not fork, why don't we The guy hasn't had a
Speaker 1: lot of good news, so why don't we call up
Speaker 1: David Eale? Are downstairs? N Yeah, are downstairs desk editor
Speaker 1: and let him know that his favorite team, the Panthers,
Speaker 1: not for it. I bet that would meet. That would
Speaker 1: help him out. I would make him happy. I fact
Speaker 1: that would brighten his day. Said, can we do that? Hey, Mike,
Speaker 1: I speak with David Eally? Please? Uh one second? Who's
Speaker 1: mask coin? This is the Around the NFL Podcast. Jordy
Speaker 1: Nelson Rogers going all the way to a little bit
Speaker 1: on the nose, full stretch and is fist David Eally?
Speaker 1: What's up? Dan? Hands? Is the Around the NFL Podcast? Hey,
Speaker 1: how's it going? How are you doing? Buddy? I'm doing
Speaker 1: all right. Yeah, I bet. I just I got some
Speaker 1: good news for you to share up your day. We
Speaker 1: just had a meeting of the fork committee, and the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, despite being one in five and on some
Speaker 1: level you could argue a laughing stock this season, have
Speaker 1: not been forked. We did not fork. The Panthers still
Speaker 1: alive in the mind of our team. We thought that
Speaker 1: might brighten your day. Is the biggest Panthers fan we know. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's good to hear. I personally have kind of mentally
Speaker 1: forked them so so, but I'm glad that in the
Speaker 1: minds of you guys that they're still hope. Um. I
Speaker 1: did have a question for you, uh, you know, because
Speaker 1: I know you had a lot of excitement around this
Speaker 1: team entering the season and uh, coming off of course
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl birth, and was just curious how this
Speaker 1: in terms of a shock h the team kind of
Speaker 1: coming out of the gate and falling out its face
Speaker 1: in terms of shock value to you, how that's stacked
Speaker 1: up with the sudden end of your college relationship with
Speaker 1: your ex girlfriend, because I know that one really knocked
Speaker 1: you on your butt for a while. That's a good question. Um. Uh,
Speaker 1: let me, let me give that a little bit of
Speaker 1: thought for a second. I'd say that, um, what was
Speaker 1: her name? By the way, Um, anyway, what was her name?
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into that. Uh, So I
Speaker 1: would say that she heard more of a surprise. You
Speaker 1: could see you could kind of see the relationship criming
Speaker 1: to a halt. Yeah. Back back then and this was this,
Speaker 1: I was much more optimistic about the Panthers than I
Speaker 1: was for that the long term as of that relationship.
Speaker 1: This season feels like you trying to probably you did
Speaker 1: multiple times, trying to get back together with her, and
Speaker 1: it's equally, you know, a messy disaster on some level. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, Mark all all ends our choppy. So I'm
Speaker 1: I don't want to go it's coming from my boss,
Speaker 1: So I'm a little concerned that word. But how's that going?
Speaker 1: By the way, as the has the dynamic, it was
Speaker 1: a little choppy to use the word, uh in the beginning,
Speaker 1: Westling Sessler Eely dynamic in uh late October, well all starry,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, we once we once we got over
Speaker 1: Mark's issues with early morning shifts, then they started to
Speaker 1: go a little bit better. But I remember, well, I'm
Speaker 1: not quite sure what that means. But I was going
Speaker 1: to let you know that I know that you've been on.
Speaker 1: You know, we've been on. I am with Dave during
Speaker 1: the show. We have to be in communication with our
Speaker 1: boss and he um, he's a little peaked at us
Speaker 1: because two or three news items came up that we
Speaker 1: have refused to write because we're up here. But I
Speaker 1: want to let you know that West and I are
Speaker 1: going directly to uh a tavern up the street to
Speaker 1: watch the baseball playoffs after this podcast ends. Just want
Speaker 1: to let you know. Deal. That sounds great, That sounds
Speaker 1: like a responsible thing to do. This is a Dodgerstown, West,
Speaker 1: where are you at? I think that things did start
Speaker 1: out a little bit rocky, but Dave has been uh,
Speaker 1: he's been very fair. He's been totally receptive, receptive to suggestions,
Speaker 1: and he's he's been great a rainmaker. All right, good,
Speaker 1: I have one more surprise to you day before I
Speaker 1: let you get back to work. A day of surprises
Speaker 1: for you. Uh Connor or are you on the line?
Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody? Connor Connor Or is our of course,
Speaker 1: our New Jersey correspondent and also a thorn in the
Speaker 1: side of David really one of the all time Panthers haters. Connor,
Speaker 1: Welcome to the Round the NFL podcast. Okay, pound everybody, Connor,
Speaker 1: how's your David so far? How did you catch any fish?
Speaker 1: The Connor? Was that fishing today? I don't know if
Speaker 1: you knew that down? Yeah, I don't know that I
Speaker 1: didn't catch any but it was it was beautiful, it
Speaker 1: was it was fantastic. What's everybody up to? What are
Speaker 1: we doing? Well? I just thought I thought maybe you
Speaker 1: would have a couple of pot shots at Italy, But
Speaker 1: it seems like you guys are in an okay place. No. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, It's funny because I thought I've been
Speaker 1: looking forward to this moment for like a year, and
Speaker 1: now that it's finally here, it's like, you know, like
Speaker 1: like Steve Jobs, I'm onto the next thing. I've already
Speaker 1: figured it out, you know, I'm waiting for everybody. I'm
Speaker 1: waiting for everybody shot to know what the iPhone is.
Speaker 1: I'm already onto the next I'm already predicted the downfall
Speaker 1: the Raiders in two years. They're the Viking. Interesting, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm onto it. You know, so you've already laid waste
Speaker 1: to the Panthers and the key Pound Nation and there's
Speaker 1: just more to more to handle in your life. Well
Speaker 1: you know, yeah. But at the same time, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, the proper amount of credit would be would
Speaker 1: be good. I think like last year during the Super
Speaker 1: Boy I said this was gonna happen. Uh, this year
Speaker 1: on I said it a bunch of times, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't like profiting off of the misfortune
Speaker 1: of others. But you know, hey, one at five and
Speaker 1: this guy was screaming it all along from New Jersey
Speaker 1: who was listening. There you go, Eily, any final thoughts
Speaker 1: on that. I mean, the Connors attempt to take their
Speaker 1: high road here is laughable. I mean, his way of
Speaker 1: moving on and saying that he's moving past the Panthers
Speaker 1: is just a low key way of saying that they're
Speaker 1: beneath him in my opinion. So, um, this is all
Speaker 1: going to be filed into next week schedule of Connors.
Speaker 1: You know. Oh got bad? Alright, Eally, get off the
Speaker 1: phone before your employees hate you even more. My god,
Speaker 1: all Connor, can you stay on the line with us
Speaker 1: for a minute or two? Yeah, yeah, that's cool. What's
Speaker 1: what's up? What's going on? What's up? We have a
Speaker 1: couple of things I want to talk about with you,
Speaker 1: like right off the top, West, do you wanna see
Speaker 1: this one up? Some news with your Madden franchise coming
Speaker 1: to life. Yeah, that Nile Mile is moving from Portland
Speaker 1: to Green Bay. Nile Davis has been traded to the Packers.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about that? Nile Davis? Just so
Speaker 1: people listening, Uh, Connor's Madden team which was used to
Speaker 1: be anchored by Griff Whalen, who ironically or coincidentally, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure which one. Uh, this is the one year anniversary,
Speaker 1: of course of Griff Griff Whalen's lowest moment. Uh, Nile
Speaker 1: Davis became the second franchise player with your Madden franchise. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's certainly a proud moment for me. Uh. And just
Speaker 1: the fact that I keep picking the most random apt
Speaker 1: players from like Madden two thousand twelve and that they're
Speaker 1: still having some tangential impact on the NFL is really
Speaker 1: not only a credit to me, but well, yeah, like
Speaker 1: mostly a credit to me. What about like now that
Speaker 1: you're married and you've got the mortgage and you've got
Speaker 1: all those things going on, are you still playing You're
Speaker 1: Mad in two thousand twelve console. Well, first of all,
Speaker 1: big up to eight s boards for sending around the
Speaker 1: NFL A trial copy of the New High I do
Speaker 1: not have a PS four. I played it at my
Speaker 1: custom cousin, Justin's house. Unbelievable. Uh, but that being said,
Speaker 1: never going to give up. Uh, marriage, you know, kids,
Speaker 1: whatever is down the corner. You know, the hogs, they're
Speaker 1: always they're they're gonna keep going. We're gonna keep going forever.
Speaker 1: Connor had mentioned to me that while I get to
Speaker 1: keep going thing with Matt and that you, you know,
Speaker 1: I it sounds like you do give an ample amount
Speaker 1: of time to your wife and future children, but at
Speaker 1: the same time that you've delved deep into PC online
Speaker 1: adventure games of some sort, which sounds like a much
Speaker 1: bigger wormhold than playing a few games of Madden. Well,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, you know, once you figure out, like,
Speaker 1: for example, you predict something like the Panthers, and then
Speaker 1: you sort of unlock your mental capacity. I thought, why
Speaker 1: am I just focusing on the NFL. Why can't I
Speaker 1: play Age of Empires and rule the world? And so,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's kind of the next step
Speaker 1: for me mentally. That felt right, so kind of almost
Speaker 1: expanding your ambitions a little bit. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: think you know, like, you know, guys that I talked
Speaker 1: to listen to a lot of Ted talks. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know it's me. You know, the Kanye West is running
Speaker 1: for presidents, so you know, this is uh kind of
Speaker 1: what what smart people do with their free times. You know,
Speaker 1: I hear you on that, um all right before we go, uh,
Speaker 1: and the Connor would love to have you sit in
Speaker 1: on this as well. We're gonna talk about the Thursday
Speaker 1: night football game between the Chicago Bears and Green Bay Packers.
Speaker 1: And I guess i'd be curious, Connor, your thoughts on
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, who is really because it has been coming
Speaker 1: a major storyline in this season. Now, why is the
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the world? Not that anymore? What is
Speaker 1: your theory on this? Now? Can we let's stop this
Speaker 1: because you know what's gonna happen is we're all gonna
Speaker 1: say this stuff and then like nine weeks later, when
Speaker 1: he passes for like thirteen thousand yards over nine weeks,
Speaker 1: he's gonna do that thing where it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: but you didn't believe. No, well, you know what, you're awesome,
Speaker 1: and I don't think so it's it's gonna be fine
Speaker 1: the world, the sky isn't falling, and everything's everything. So
Speaker 1: you're saying a seventeen game sample isn't enough to shake
Speaker 1: your confidence in this guy becoming Aaron Rodgers again. No, No,
Speaker 1: he's uh, he's electrifying. Uh. If he ever wanted to
Speaker 1: play for the Hogs, I got some cap issue, but uh,
Speaker 1: he would, he would be one of my first pick. Love,
Speaker 1: great guy, great guy. What do you guys think about
Speaker 1: this game? And Mark, I know you're not very excited
Speaker 1: about the prospect of another Chicago priante. I don't know
Speaker 1: what they what the what was the strategy here? You know, Hey,
Speaker 1: we've got we've got thirty two teams to work with.
Speaker 1: We've got to squeeze a couple of these want to
Speaker 1: be clubs into prime time. We get that. Everyone is
Speaker 1: you know, we're copathetic with that. But it is the
Speaker 1: middle of October and we're about to be treated if
Speaker 1: that's the word you want to use to the Bears
Speaker 1: for the third time at night. Now, I have a
Speaker 1: much better things to do with my evenings than to
Speaker 1: watch this team. I will find something better. Maybe I'll
Speaker 1: start to play Age of Empire, if that's what it's called.
Speaker 1: I would rather watch a very uncomfortable, squeamish Dean Blandina
Speaker 1: attempt to justify the catch rule on an endless loop
Speaker 1: for hours and hours, and spend any time previewing a
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears game. And I think this is the last
Speaker 1: Bears unless they decided to start just flexing them in
Speaker 1: lexing it out. Yes, we I think, um, I think,
Speaker 1: I certainly think the Packers will get healthy in this game.
Speaker 1: Bears are one in five. The Packers. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: they could use a confidence booster here, and maybe Chicago
Speaker 1: gives it to him. Uh, but make sure on our
Speaker 1: next the next time you hear from us, we will
Speaker 1: be recapping that game. Actually be West and I because
Speaker 1: Greg is in London recapping a Thursday night game. And
Speaker 1: then we'll recap or preview all of the week seven
Speaker 1: games to come. Connor, and it just it keeps coming
Speaker 1: the week after week after week. Buddy, you gotta keep pounded, daddy,
Speaker 1: you gotta keep pounded. Um. All right, that's it. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's it for today's show. Uh, Like I said, we'll
Speaker 1: be back late Thursday night. But until then, Uh, this
Speaker 1: is Dan Hansas signing off for a quiet storm, the Mailman,
Speaker 1: the Boss, dave Ealely, the new Boss, Connor or you
Speaker 1: kidding me? And lasts in behind the glass down Thursday
Speaker 1: all right, said let's go, oh, Greg, I think I
Speaker 1: fixed it all right good just like two seconds. Just
Speaker 1: for the record, that's Greg. That's yeah, that was you know,
Speaker 1: it's not a reflection. We have a relationship where we
Speaker 1: can be honest. That's what you think, do you