Speaker 1: Second goal, it is caught. It's Henry with a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Time for Simeon. Now they're after him and it's Pulpsa
Speaker 1: who brings it down from behind me. It's caught for
Speaker 1: the touchdown by Finny Fowler and puts it on the
Speaker 1: ground in a hurry, and it has recovered. Michael Brown goes,
Speaker 1: my goodness, Chamor with the recovery. Simeon heaves it and
Speaker 1: it is knocked down and the game is over and
Speaker 1: the Churchers have held on this time for a much
Speaker 1: needed victory. What a victory for the San Diego super
Speaker 1: Chargers on Thursday Night football. I'm Greg Rosenthal alongside Chris Westling.
Speaker 1: We've had some stinkers on Thursday nights, but not this one.
Speaker 1: This one was intriguing to me. Your takeaways, west Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, the la raviol magnifico, that you are
Speaker 1: a grizzled old Patriots fan who doesn't get so wound
Speaker 1: up about them anymore. You are, first and foremost this
Speaker 1: year a Chargers fan. They put a bounce in your
Speaker 1: step and you were rooting for them every second of
Speaker 1: this game, which was a dominant performance there. It is
Speaker 1: a dominant performance that should have never been close. But
Speaker 1: Mike McCoy and Ken Wiz and Hunt continue this mind
Speaker 1: numbing insistence on taking the air of the ball and
Speaker 1: sitting on their leads. It's crazy. And I should have mentioned,
Speaker 1: of course, this is our Week six preview show, So
Speaker 1: after we honk about this game for a few minutes,
Speaker 1: we're gonna send it over to Dan Hansis Mark Sessler
Speaker 1: and we'll preview all the Week six six games. But
Speaker 1: you're right, I'm actually I'm really glad all of America
Speaker 1: got to watch this game because I've been I've been
Speaker 1: dialed in on the Chargers this year. I am really
Speaker 1: enjoying them. I think they're a really good team, and
Speaker 1: every week I feel like they're kind of proving me right.
Speaker 1: And they're fun to watch. And the end of these
Speaker 1: games have just been crazy, and each one has been different.
Speaker 1: People say they could be six, and they should be
Speaker 1: four and two. Let's just be realistic. And there's really
Speaker 1: two games that were outrageous how they blew it. But
Speaker 1: they're a fun team. There's a lot of good players
Speaker 1: on this team. Rivers is playing really well. Uh that
Speaker 1: the defense, the rookie class, Hunter, Henry Tyrolle Williams didn't
Speaker 1: have a big game tonight, but he's playing well. And
Speaker 1: you also saw the insanity and I'm I'm at a
Speaker 1: step removed. I'm not a real long time Chargers fan,
Speaker 1: so i can deal with all the crazy endings, but
Speaker 1: it's it's insane how it happens week after week. And
Speaker 1: everyone from this game will remember the image of Mike
Speaker 1: McCoy with his head in his hands with fifteen seconds left.
Speaker 1: They were leading by eight points at the time and
Speaker 1: the Broncos had the ball at the fifty. And I
Speaker 1: know the situation that got to that point was crazy,
Speaker 1: but you don't want to see your head coach with
Speaker 1: his head in his hands leading by eight with fifteen
Speaker 1: seconds ago. Ian Rappaport reported this afternoon Thursday afternoon basically
Speaker 1: that Mike McCoy was in a win or else mandate. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that he could have been fired as soon as right
Speaker 1: ay if the Charges blew another close game or if
Speaker 1: they lost an ugly blowout fashion. So that was why
Speaker 1: we saw that kind of pressure on Mike McCoy. He
Speaker 1: showed it. He showed it all night. Was very emotional
Speaker 1: on that was especially like you could see the weight
Speaker 1: of this season on him right there. He might look
Speaker 1: back later in this season and view Russell o'coon's holding
Speaker 1: penalty on c. J. Anderson's touchdown run as what saved
Speaker 1: his job, because that was the key moment in the game.
Speaker 1: C H. C J. Anderson made a brilliant cut to
Speaker 1: get into the end zone for a twenty yard touched
Speaker 1: and that would have made it to seventeen with plenty
Speaker 1: of time left. Was still four and a half minutes left,
Speaker 1: and Russell o'cuon got called for the penalty on that play.
Speaker 1: Two plays. The next two plays g Tavis Brown, who
Speaker 1: I know you've been talking up as a as a
Speaker 1: good looking rookie, sax Trevor Simeon to make it second
Speaker 1: and thirty. Then he forces a fumble onto Mary's tom
Speaker 1: and that's the game. I mean, the Broncos made it
Speaker 1: a little interesting, but that was the game I thought
Speaker 1: it was, and it shouldn't have been so interesting. They
Speaker 1: gotta let Philips throw the ball. This is that was
Speaker 1: the reason why they were leading the game in the
Speaker 1: first place. They have one of the best quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the league. Trust him to throw the ball on first down.
Speaker 1: They tried to sit on it in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't take away the fact that they dominated
Speaker 1: the first half, really the first three quarters, that their
Speaker 1: defense is showing a lot. They have a good front seven,
Speaker 1: the back end is is banged up, and Trevor Simeon
Speaker 1: was not the type of guy that could take advantage
Speaker 1: of that, and that's a concern for Denver long term.
Speaker 1: And the offense did what they did a couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, two drives to start this game totally seventeen minutes,
Speaker 1: twenty nine plays. They took the air out of the ball,
Speaker 1: put ten points on the board quickly. Philip rivers just
Speaker 1: making good decisions, pinpoint throws, and that's the Charges at
Speaker 1: their best. And that's why I don't think they're out
Speaker 1: of it. I know they're two and four, but to me,
Speaker 1: you know, are they a worst team than the Broncos
Speaker 1: right now? To me, they're similar, They're in the same boat.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're out of it all. And Joey
Speaker 1: Bosa is a game changer. He could be It's early yet,
Speaker 1: but he could be a franchise defensive player. He I
Speaker 1: think he's that goody. They look promising. And then on
Speaker 1: the other side, Denver. Their offense has been broken for
Speaker 1: two straight games. They had two first downs at halftime.
Speaker 1: By late in the third quarter, three first downs, and
Speaker 1: they had gone fifteen minutes without one. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: what you'll want to watch for a lot of these
Speaker 1: first time quarterbacks that are playing well is, okay, what
Speaker 1: happens when they defense has start adjusting to them. And
Speaker 1: I think we'll see that with Simeon somewhat. You know,
Speaker 1: I know he missed a week. The running game for
Speaker 1: Denver has not The offensive line is the major issue here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the running game has not played well for a while.
Speaker 1: They turned Vic Beasley into the defensive player of the
Speaker 1: Week and Joey Bosonto the defensive Rookie of the year,
Speaker 1: and maybe the Raiders can keep winning games at the
Speaker 1: very end. But I believe that you learned teams over
Speaker 1: sixty minutes, and the Charges about scored teams by eighteen
Speaker 1: points this year. That's actually a bigger scoring differential than
Speaker 1: the Raiders, who are plus five. The Chargers are plus
Speaker 1: fifty seven in the first half. That's a that's a
Speaker 1: statu you would expect to see out of a five
Speaker 1: and one or six an oh team. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: think that's really the bigger clue to what the roster
Speaker 1: is that they're talented enough to have a ten point
Speaker 1: lead on average at halftime, but the coaching is killing
Speaker 1: them in the second half. Yeah, the coaching. The coaching
Speaker 1: is a problem. I mean, that was a bad look
Speaker 1: the rookie class. I mean we've gone through and kind
Speaker 1: of mentioned a Hunter Henry at tight end as has
Speaker 1: emerged certainly as their best tight end and definitely a
Speaker 1: big weapon in the passing and it makes this division fun.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching the Chargers moving forward. I
Speaker 1: think the Broncoes, you know, most weeks, their defense is
Speaker 1: gonna keep them in or have them winning games. So
Speaker 1: it's not like they're dying here. But therefore and two
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be fun in the a f C West. Yes,
Speaker 1: it is all right. Let's send it over to Dan
Speaker 1: and let's preview the week six games. Do it. The
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Kansas. Then I am joy by
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up boys? Hey, Dan, I don't know
Speaker 1: what to do. After West says that what what comes next?
Speaker 1: I don't know either. Sometimes you just and then you
Speaker 1: gotta think of something to say. It's too much. For
Speaker 1: four years in we still having cracked this nut. Has
Speaker 1: he been saying hey damn the whole time? Yes, since
Speaker 1: like the first episode, I gotta I gotta tweet from
Speaker 1: some Jabrone the other day that's like, hey, would you
Speaker 1: mind giving a time marker? Uh? When you start talking
Speaker 1: about football? That way I could fast forward and I
Speaker 1: wrote back on bro, are you serious? And then he
Speaker 1: wrote back some then like no offense, man, but you
Speaker 1: know Simmons does it, so you should do it too,
Speaker 1: And I said, stick it up your ace. It sounds
Speaker 1: like that was that sent from directly from Greg h.
Speaker 1: That is Greg. Greg's one of the things he hates
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Speaker 1: football related This is such a tired, tired plus you
Speaker 1: know me well enough Mark to know I would never
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Speaker 1: There you go, so deal with that reality. What you
Speaker 1: heard at the top of the show, of course, was
Speaker 1: the beginning of week six, the Thursday night affair between
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos and San Diego Chargers. The scientists took
Speaker 1: you through that, but we still have a lot games
Speaker 1: to get through. Two teams on by this week. Those
Speaker 1: teams are Greg Well, you gotta put me on the spot.
Speaker 1: I think it's the Buccaneers and the Vikings. So the
Speaker 1: Vikings will be the team of around the NFL. The Vikings,
Speaker 1: I certainly hope that works out, but they are the
Speaker 1: team of a t L and uh, they are five
Speaker 1: and oh, and they will be five and oh for
Speaker 1: another week. Um, so that leaves us with thirty teams,
Speaker 1: fifteen games, one game played Thursday fourteen to talk about.
Speaker 1: Do you want to start talking about games? Let's do it.
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Speaker 1: you start, get off my timeline, come back to us, Jabron.
Speaker 1: He definitely, he definitely messaged the wrong Uh. It was
Speaker 1: the wrong party to even suggest a tweak to the
Speaker 1: podcast too. Let's start an Orchard Park. Oh, much to
Speaker 1: the chagrin of young ish Mark Sessler, the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: are flying high at three game winning streak and with
Speaker 1: the schedule that had looking juicy, all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the Bills are alive and well in the a f
Speaker 1: C playoff picture. This week, they have what looks on
Speaker 1: paper to be a gimme against the San Francisco forty Niners. However, um,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, there is a little nugget in this game
Speaker 1: that makes it more compelling. Maybe doesn't make the Niners
Speaker 1: more competitive, but more compelling. Colin Kaepernick will start for
Speaker 1: San Francisco. I'm just crazy enough to request this as
Speaker 1: the game I'm covering on Sunday, gonna lock it up. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lock it up, but I I want
Speaker 1: to watch it. I'm intrigued. You know, Colin Kaepernick, he
Speaker 1: started a Super Bowl. He was a very exciting player
Speaker 1: to watch. I think Chip Kelly and his offense has
Speaker 1: been able to get receivers open the last few weeks,
Speaker 1: and if he had a quarterback that could find those
Speaker 1: receivers this quarter, this team could get some yardage. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be tough, though. This week. They're playing one of
Speaker 1: the best defensive front seven's in the league, even though
Speaker 1: they're not healthy and they're not getting Marcel Darius back
Speaker 1: this week. The return of Kyle Williams to peak form.
Speaker 1: Not a guy people talk about a lot, but one
Speaker 1: of the great Bills of the last fifteen years is
Speaker 1: playing fantastic. Adolphus Washington next to him, This defense is
Speaker 1: playing too well. Tough to see the forty Niners coming
Speaker 1: out of here being too competitive. When it comes to
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal and Colin Kaepernick, the phrase absence makes the
Speaker 1: heart grow fonder applies because you used to drill him
Speaker 1: for throwing balls into the stands, for getting concussing bystanders
Speaker 1: on the sidelines for being one of the worst passers
Speaker 1: in the modern NFL, and now you're hoping he can
Speaker 1: reignite this passing off I'm intrigued in an offense without Jim,
Speaker 1: Tom Seul and Jee Chris. We talked about it, but
Speaker 1: I'm intrigued to see him in a new offense. I
Speaker 1: think it's a fair point that we've, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: just grown utterly exhausted by the tricks and treats of
Speaker 1: Blaine Gabbert that it's time to get Colin Kaepernick in there.
Speaker 1: Why not? See if you're the Niners, what do you
Speaker 1: do at this point other than continue to look at
Speaker 1: different quarterbacks, maybe even the rookie quarterback. If neither one
Speaker 1: of these guys wash out, Christian Ponder might might get
Speaker 1: a shot. At at some point that bores me. I
Speaker 1: I don't assume that the Bills are gonna just run
Speaker 1: rough shot over them, because they don't really have a
Speaker 1: passing game. And if you don't have a passing game,
Speaker 1: you can't just assume you're gonna win any given week,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, they're they're one of the worst
Speaker 1: passing teams in the NFL. They're one of the better
Speaker 1: running teams. I mean they have the best running quarterback
Speaker 1: or one of the best, and Lashan McCoy. Who wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me if Lishan McCoy ends up leading the league
Speaker 1: and rushing where that ends ends up being himbursses Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 1: that trade looks perfect for them now after what the
Speaker 1: way he played last week, and if you look at
Speaker 1: the way that Ezekiel Elliott blasted San Francisco's defense a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, this could be a good matchup
Speaker 1: for is and and uh Kigo Alonso doing well uh
Speaker 1: down in Miami do so it's working out for everyone.
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy's last three games fifty four carries um, averaging
Speaker 1: six point one yards per tote, averaging a hundred and
Speaker 1: ten yards per game in almost a hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage with three touchdowns. So all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: he's back to being the old Lashawan McCoy, which we
Speaker 1: frankly have never seen in Buffalo. So you put him
Speaker 1: into the picture at peak form, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills will look a lot more dangerous. That's
Speaker 1: who they thought they were getting. I've already changed the
Speaker 1: Bill's record to four and two on the research packet
Speaker 1: smart this game is a gimme, and we all owe
Speaker 1: Rex an apology. The way he's coached the lext three weeks,
Speaker 1: the fact that he has gotten the Rando, Alexander and
Speaker 1: Zach Brown to be members of the best linebacking corps
Speaker 1: in football, what he's done to Zach Brown's career after
Speaker 1: washing out in Tennessee. He's the best inside livebacker in
Speaker 1: football this year. He's doing ah luke Keikley impression. I
Speaker 1: guess kind of what have been watched. I don't believe
Speaker 1: I should have to apologize. I believe I said, can't
Speaker 1: you see Rex taking this beat up team? You don't
Speaker 1: have to apologize, Mark, and I do. I actually I
Speaker 1: don't need to apologize because a lot of what I
Speaker 1: felt annoyed by about Rex was actually off the field,
Speaker 1: that I found him to be an utter buffoon. Well,
Speaker 1: not a lot of problems with him on the field too,
Speaker 1: I do, but you know what, now I'll cry. I
Speaker 1: also credit him when he does what he's done over
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. I don't need to backspin
Speaker 1: and tell you I love all the rexisms that the
Speaker 1: mic I don't, and they're not. They're not doing anything
Speaker 1: too fancy. They're not you're not seeing that Rex crazy defend.
Speaker 1: They're getting pressure with their front guys. Maybe every team
Speaker 1: should fire their offensive coordinator. He couldn't get pressure with
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz's guys last year, but now he's got his
Speaker 1: own guys. Let's move on and look at a By
Speaker 1: the way, Lasan McCoy revenge game. Didn't even think of that,
Speaker 1: just had to jam that in. Lisan McCoy taking revenge
Speaker 1: on Chip Killy said this week he's cool with Chip.
Speaker 1: Kelly's also still everyone you know Lashan McCoy is still
Speaker 1: not a likable dude, despite him returning to prominence. Fair uh,
Speaker 1: not an easy gotta root for. Let's move on to
Speaker 1: Lishan McCoy's old team and NFC matchup here between the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles and Washington Redskins. The Redskins were left for
Speaker 1: dead not so long ago, now three and two. The Eagles,
Speaker 1: of course three and one. Uh Carson Wentz came down
Speaker 1: to earth a little bit um last week, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: what did you see in the first maybe chink in
Speaker 1: the armor for Carson Wentz. Did he played poorly in
Speaker 1: your mind? Left? I didn't see a chink in the armor.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people watching red Zone or
Speaker 1: watching highlights saw that last minute interception. But Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: played a nearly perfect game app to that point. And
Speaker 1: that's not all this is. This is not just a
Speaker 1: quarterback and everyone else around him. If you want to
Speaker 1: talk about our continual discussion around coordinator of the year,
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartz needs to be in that conversation because Detroit
Speaker 1: came out hot on offense, put up three touchdowns early,
Speaker 1: and then Schwartz at halftime, and we've seen him do
Speaker 1: this in other games, adjusted the defense very well at
Speaker 1: half and shut them down in the second half for
Speaker 1: the most part. And this is a bad matchup for
Speaker 1: the Redskins in my book, outside of you know, the
Speaker 1: air game in Washington and Jamison Crowder looks like a
Speaker 1: future star. I think that this is a good matchup
Speaker 1: for Phillis defense to shut it down, give good ball
Speaker 1: possession to Wentz in the offense, and they're gonna walk
Speaker 1: away with this one. I mean, they win that game
Speaker 1: if Ryan Matthews doesn't fumble the ball heard Swartz. Swart's
Speaker 1: got some grief in the Philly papers, and it's like
Speaker 1: that game. That game is over if Ryan Matthews doesn't
Speaker 1: fumble the ball in the fourth quarter. This is where
Speaker 1: we're gonna really start to learn now about Carson Wentz
Speaker 1: if he if he's truly now already a you know,
Speaker 1: upper echelon quarterback this early into his career. Their next
Speaker 1: three opponents of Philadelphia combined twelve and three. So you
Speaker 1: got a tough game. This is an easy matchup to me,
Speaker 1: like easy on the road. I think defensively, yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they're a bottom ten defense for sure. It's not
Speaker 1: a good matchup for They don't present anything that that
Speaker 1: gets you scared at all. What what is there about this?
Speaker 1: I think the Redskins have a good offensive coach and
Speaker 1: some pretty good skill position talent, and otherwise there's not
Speaker 1: a lot Like I think Jay Gruden coaches up Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins pretty well, that Kirk Cousins is playing terrible and
Speaker 1: they're still producing because the offense is good. Well, the
Speaker 1: Eagles have an issue. To date, They've had a dominant
Speaker 1: offensive line and one of the best right tackles in football.
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson, he's gone, and into his place comes big
Speaker 1: v vy Tie, the guy who's never played before, and
Speaker 1: they might have to keep guys in to help him
Speaker 1: chip block. It's not gonna be the same offensive line.
Speaker 1: That could be a major issue. Jason Peter's kind of
Speaker 1: struggling too. I mean that's he's the guy with a
Speaker 1: great reputation, great career, probably been the weak spot of
Speaker 1: that offensive line. So then if you have you have
Speaker 1: two question marks to tackle well Wentz at least Wentz
Speaker 1: has been pretty good at at scene pressure and escaping
Speaker 1: from it to some degrees, taking a lot of big
Speaker 1: hits too. Um before Greg, you cut me off. Yes,
Speaker 1: the Redskins shouldn't even show up to this game according
Speaker 1: to Greg, but after this game, uh week seven verse
Speaker 1: Vikings Week eight at Cowboys or nine and one those
Speaker 1: next two weeks, so important game here up for Philadelphia
Speaker 1: to keep the momentum because it gets tougher. One final note,
Speaker 1: with Jordan Read dealing with another concussion, doesn't we don't know,
Speaker 1: but it doesn't sound like he's gonna play. That's a
Speaker 1: huge loss. That is kirk Cousins security blanket right there.
Speaker 1: He's maybe the key to that whole passing attack. Jordan read,
Speaker 1: They're they're not going to be the same and uh,
Speaker 1: I like what they did using Carson Wentz on some
Speaker 1: design runs last week. Maybe mixing up that run game.
Speaker 1: That's a good running game. It's better without Ryan Matthews.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm gonna make it my lock of
Speaker 1: the week. Lock it up, you're locking it up. I'm
Speaker 1: locking it up. You locked it up. Good for you, Greg,
Speaker 1: I almost forgot to lock it up on your loathing
Speaker 1: of the Redskins knows no bounds. If you I think
Speaker 1: the Eagles are a better team. If you're watching on YouTube,
Speaker 1: you know a little graphic behind the glass. I like
Speaker 1: that an actual vault. It's funny how we get out
Speaker 1: of that vault though, with these locks. Are we locking
Speaker 1: it when we're done with it or actudentally leaving the door?
Speaker 1: Ajar when we leave the studios just has that spinning
Speaker 1: wheel on the door, just wide open spinning wheels had
Speaker 1: a technical term. No, let's move on alright. The Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns the only team left in the NFL without a
Speaker 1: win oh and five now, they traveled to Nashville to
Speaker 1: face the Titans, who gotta win. Last week, Marcus Mariota
Speaker 1: did some things that four touchdowns. De Marca Murray continues
Speaker 1: his resurgence. Looks like one of the best running backs
Speaker 1: in football right now. But Mark Cessler, you got Cody
Speaker 1: Kessler back under center. We hope he makes up through
Speaker 1: all four quarters. Is this the week? Uh? Your dry
Speaker 1: foods stretch ends raw food stretch, And I don't think
Speaker 1: it is the week it's dry foods. Don't think week
Speaker 1: cereal and kids it is dry right? Uh? No, I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's it's largely fruit based and it's it's
Speaker 1: not dry. Actually, No, what are you eating? What have
Speaker 1: you eaten today? Fus vegetables to two large juices I
Speaker 1: had today so far went to the huddle in the
Speaker 1: alt bar. Was an epic disaster visually, so I couldn't
Speaker 1: do it. But into this game, yes, people, um, people
Speaker 1: talk about, oh, this is the game Cleveland can win
Speaker 1: on their schedule because it gets very rough from here
Speaker 1: on out. I don't think it's a good matchup for
Speaker 1: them at all. Joe Thomas is gonna play, but he's
Speaker 1: been He's not practiced all week because of a knee injury.
Speaker 1: Your left guard Joel Batonio, who is probably the best
Speaker 1: offensive lineman you have outside of Joe Thomas, is out.
Speaker 1: Camervan is back, and he's a total wild card. And
Speaker 1: we saw what Tennessee did to Miami's offensive line last week.
Speaker 1: It was one guy after the next destroying Ryan Tannehill.
Speaker 1: I don't like this matchup for the Cleveland Browns, by
Speaker 1: the way, even when Batonio was in there, one quarterback
Speaker 1: after the next in Cleveland has been getting hit hard,
Speaker 1: and so it's not a good It's not a good
Speaker 1: matchup at all. And I think they can run on
Speaker 1: Cleveland as well. I almost throw out the Titans victory
Speaker 1: of the Dolphins last week because Miami is a hot,
Speaker 1: garbage mess right now. They are not even real, a
Speaker 1: real NFL team in my mind. The offensive line was
Speaker 1: a joke that they sent Billy Turner out to play
Speaker 1: left tackle and then cut him a day later. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins are a mess. Ladies and gentlemen out of gays.
Speaker 1: The Titans played well. This was the team we thought
Speaker 1: we were going to see in the preseason. The running
Speaker 1: attack was unbelievable. The offensive line has been fantastic this year,
Speaker 1: and their defense. Brian rack Bo, Derek Morgan, and Darell
Speaker 1: Casey are stars, but they don't have much beyond that.
Speaker 1: But that might not enough take care of Cleveland because
Speaker 1: I mean, I think, listen, it's it's good that they
Speaker 1: have Kessler back, and you know he's I don't know
Speaker 1: what his long term future is, but Kessler, as we've
Speaker 1: talked about, has been manageable at quarterback. But I just
Speaker 1: I don't think this is a good match. Bo is
Speaker 1: gonna throw some stuff at him. I mean, I think
Speaker 1: dick Lebo being there a little longer now and being
Speaker 1: in charge, they're starting to get real creative with what
Speaker 1: they're doing. Iraqbo as he as he mentions playing well
Speaker 1: and I don't know s. I mean, I know they
Speaker 1: were playing the Dolphins, but they have a great running game.
Speaker 1: They have one of the best three or four running
Speaker 1: backs in the league right now with de Marco Murray.
Speaker 1: They have an offensive line, they have a pretty good
Speaker 1: front seven in an Okay, they still got a chance
Speaker 1: to win the a f C South. I'm kind of
Speaker 1: coming along to thinking like what team in the a
Speaker 1: f C South has more positive things about him than
Speaker 1: the Titans. Not many, none of them. None of them
Speaker 1: if Mariotta plays better, they got a real chance. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna win ten games, but they got
Speaker 1: a real chance. They're gonna get eight or nine. Backup
Speaker 1: the Mike Malarkey trade and Mario played better. He did
Speaker 1: play better, and he's now only the second quarterback in
Speaker 1: NFL history with four four touchdown games in his first
Speaker 1: seventeen story. Well, and he had some flash. He's running
Speaker 1: the ball. I mean they need to run him more.
Speaker 1: They he knew when to run, he knew when to slide.
Speaker 1: They had some called runs. He he was a big
Speaker 1: factor in the running game. Use it. I think you
Speaker 1: see eight plus catches for Delaney Walker in this game.
Speaker 1: Cleveland's been one of the worst defenses in the league
Speaker 1: dealing with tight ends, and that's not just robbed Fronkowski.
Speaker 1: Um Tennessee will probably score some points in this game.
Speaker 1: The Browns the only team in the league to give
Speaker 1: up at least twenty five points in all four games
Speaker 1: or five games on their schedule so far. Moving you
Speaker 1: called him games Ter Conference showdown between the Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 1: and New York Giants, a rematch of Super Bowl Number West.
Speaker 1: It was the year two thousand, just the college or Mark,
Speaker 1: I will say Super Bowl twenty Greg, Oh, that's correct,
Speaker 1: Mark Both thirty. It's the tall, red headed comedian with
Speaker 1: his own talk show. I don't know why carrots top No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I mean Conan O'Brien. We need the Conan O'Brien trop
Speaker 1: I don't know why I couldn't think of his name
Speaker 1: was on the edge. O'Brien unknown, Kathy Griffin or Andy Dalton. Alright,
Speaker 1: so the Ravens are Howard to New York and this
Speaker 1: is a tale of two teams that are struggling right now,
Speaker 1: because the Ravens are now three and two after starting
Speaker 1: the season with three wins in a row. And then
Speaker 1: you got the Giants who look great. It looked like
Speaker 1: their defense, all the money they put into it was
Speaker 1: um was paying off when they're two and o start.
Speaker 1: And then you had the three wide receivers with Eli Manning.
Speaker 1: But everything has kind of gone to hell for the
Speaker 1: Giants in the last three week, a three game losing streak.
Speaker 1: Uh So, now the Giants are in a position where
Speaker 1: they gotta they gotta win this game at home against Baltimore.
Speaker 1: And here's a stat before I throw it to you, Greg,
Speaker 1: and this really speaks to the I saw a lot
Speaker 1: of crap this week, people trying to figure out what's
Speaker 1: wrong with the Giants offense, and there there was some
Speaker 1: talk about is Eli getting old. It's like Eli is
Speaker 1: thirty four, thirty five years old. I trust that he
Speaker 1: has a couple of good years left in him still,
Speaker 1: so I don't think that has anything to do with it.
Speaker 1: But this stat was interesting to me. Uh this from
Speaker 1: Tom Rock of Newsday. Longest Giant reception in the past
Speaker 1: two weeks. With these talented wide receiver sixteen yards, they
Speaker 1: gotta figure something moucreg how to move the ball down
Speaker 1: field well, and that's their offense though they're trying to
Speaker 1: play hurry up. They're trying to play dink and dunk,
Speaker 1: curry up. There the fat second fastest team in the
Speaker 1: league in terms of pace behind the forty niners, and
Speaker 1: in they're not going on long drives, they're not pushing
Speaker 1: the ball. And why is it crazy to think that
Speaker 1: Eli Manning would start declining a little bit? I mean,
Speaker 1: because not every quarterback evidence. I don't know, because there's well,
Speaker 1: the last three weeks he hasn't played well. He's been
Speaker 1: very frenetic, like he's not comfortable, Like he's not like
Speaker 1: he's not confident in either the protection or the receivers,
Speaker 1: or he's not on the same page. He's not comfortable.
Speaker 1: I just think it's a weird thing to jump to
Speaker 1: because they're a three week FLA. I agree with that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm saying I would like the guy who
Speaker 1: created the narrative that Tom Brady is in a decline
Speaker 1: thirty nine and guys thirty nine and one nine and
Speaker 1: playing better as well as he ever has for the
Speaker 1: past couple Well that was also before the season. Wait,
Speaker 1: he's not basing it off of last week. They're not playing,
Speaker 1: they're not playing confidently. They're not attacking the Packers when
Speaker 1: they're missing two cornerbacks, you know what I mean. They're
Speaker 1: just it's like they're hoping to win with a bunch
Speaker 1: of singles and that other team won't make mistakes and
Speaker 1: they're the ones making miss Isn't it a lot easier
Speaker 1: to play defense against them when they have no running
Speaker 1: game whatsoever? Their very one dimensional It's like they used
Speaker 1: three four wide receiver sets on like nine of their plays,
Speaker 1: which I that that's good with your hurry up and stuff.
Speaker 1: But there. But I mean, teams are gonna not take
Speaker 1: you seriously. He hasn't been on the same page with
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepard. H Sometimes Victor Cruz is on the outside.
Speaker 1: We'll see. He didn't really, you know, he didn't have
Speaker 1: any targets last week. Two targets. What are you making
Speaker 1: a face of that? It was Super Bowl thirty five.
Speaker 1: I was surprised it was so low. I think that
Speaker 1: makes Cowboys odd. You know, we can we can take
Speaker 1: this off line. But that's even during the segment. I
Speaker 1: was wondering if I was wrong about this. This is
Speaker 1: a tough matchup too for the Giants, because I think
Speaker 1: that the Ravens defense is good and it's getting better
Speaker 1: every week. And I think the safety combo of Eric
Speaker 1: Weddow and Ladarius Webb, who used to be a cornerback,
Speaker 1: is really good. I mean, they They've got a lot
Speaker 1: of different things going on with that one thing with
Speaker 1: the Ravens. I get that they made a switch with
Speaker 1: their play call, and there were reasons for that, but
Speaker 1: I saw Flacco miss some throws in that last game too.
Speaker 1: It's not it's not just the play calling. They marched
Speaker 1: down the field and the opening drive. They don't really
Speaker 1: score them any more points. But I wonder if Flacco.
Speaker 1: I know he's healthy, but is he fully comfortable at
Speaker 1: this point in the season coming off of the knee.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think Flacco's always miss throws. He's
Speaker 1: one of the streakiest quarterbacks in the league. You'll see
Speaker 1: him make twenty throws in a row. But this is
Speaker 1: this is an offensive line that has major issues. Ronnie
Speaker 1: Stanley looks like he's returned to practice and has a
Speaker 1: chance to play. But Marshall Yonda, the best guard of
Speaker 1: the past half decade, has a shoulder injury and probably
Speaker 1: won't play this weekend. Maybe the Giants pass rush finally
Speaker 1: gets healthy and no. Steve Smith almost definitely looks like
Speaker 1: he's gonna be out. Let's see some shots to Breshad
Speaker 1: Pairman when they when you see and when you see Payraman,
Speaker 1: it kind of seems like he's gonna be He's gonna
Speaker 1: be good. Well, we're not gonna miss both those guys
Speaker 1: last week. When's the last time the Ravens had an
Speaker 1: impact receiver of Breshad Peyraman's length? Six to never Michael Jackson,
Speaker 1: Michael Dyson, and yeah, you have to because along with
Speaker 1: they're inability to draft a quarterback. For years, they had
Speaker 1: a terrible job getting wide receivers. So you do have
Speaker 1: to go back that far. I used to like when
Speaker 1: um a Prime Time when Michael Jackson would get referenced
Speaker 1: and then Boomer would throw to Tom Jackson, who would
Speaker 1: go he It's a great bit. It's an enduring bit
Speaker 1: that was back when that show was like a legend.
Speaker 1: Was essential back then by the way to get the giants,
Speaker 1: I don't know, hyped up or loosened up, I don't
Speaker 1: know what it was. Ben McAdoo played the scene and
Speaker 1: Step Brothers where John c Riley and Will Farrell choose
Speaker 1: to take the shortcut instead of the long way home,
Speaker 1: end up end up getting beat up by a bunch
Speaker 1: of children, and then Will Farrell has to lick the
Speaker 1: white poop on the on the playground grass. If you
Speaker 1: don't come over here and lick that white dog, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna plow into your nose with my fist. And I can't,
Speaker 1: for the life of me figure out what the message
Speaker 1: was to the team, if it wasn't just a relaxation thing.
Speaker 1: I read this Stevenson's no shortcut. No, I think the
Speaker 1: end of that story is if it was just to
Speaker 1: loosen the guys UPO. Yeah, did you see Stepbrothers? No,
Speaker 1: you haven't, right, I haven't yeah, if if yeah, if
Speaker 1: you listen to the quotes, the players didn't quite know
Speaker 1: what to make of it either. Were were they the
Speaker 1: ones looking at the poop? Were they the bullies? Because
Speaker 1: then at the end of the movie Will fell beat.
Speaker 1: I don't think they were the white poop. Well, let's
Speaker 1: revisit this question. I asked you a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: macative goober or not a goober? Scooping out a little
Speaker 1: bit lately, said goober out. Very confusing game preview. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's uh clip this one off for YouTube. Let's move
Speaker 1: on and talk about the defending NFC champions In um there,
Speaker 1: I say, a Wounded Dog game. Should we do the drop?
Speaker 1: I thought, I think it's been don't don't know that
Speaker 1: has been. Peter has sent the letter. It wasn't a formal,
Speaker 1: you know, cease and desist, but it was said, let's
Speaker 1: try to find into new Do you have the Wounded
Speaker 1: Dog drop? I don't know. I'm not saying we should
Speaker 1: play it. Yeah, yeah, maybe we should work on one
Speaker 1: that's a little more Chris Westling feelings friendly or sid
Speaker 1: friendly for that matter. I don't would. I mean, she's
Speaker 1: a huge fan of it. She greenlighted it and cut
Speaker 1: it herself. You know, she's avoiding issues or just one
Speaker 1: that she made. Let's look for something. Let's let's loop
Speaker 1: in West on the process. Thank you. It probably will
Speaker 1: not involve a wounded animal of any type. Anyway. The
Speaker 1: Panthers a one in four after a dreadful Monday night
Speaker 1: loss to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and now they travel
Speaker 1: to the Superdome to face the Saint who stink. We
Speaker 1: know that they're one in three holes all over the place. Uh.
Speaker 1: And Cam Newton is practicing again. I think he's at
Speaker 1: a concussion protocol. He is still technically in it as
Speaker 1: we tape this, but it's looking good. He's coming on out.
Speaker 1: It would be my prediction. And uh, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: The Panthers are not going one in five here. West
Speaker 1: I just can't see it, right. I know they're not
Speaker 1: the same team as last year. And you gotta it's
Speaker 1: not about the name, it's about the game. But I
Speaker 1: just can't see it. I agree with you, and Cam
Speaker 1: Newton upgraded the full practice. Jonathan Stewart says he's ready
Speaker 1: to go after missing the last three weeks. The offense
Speaker 1: is getting the elements back. You'd like to see them
Speaker 1: get Kelvin Benjamin rolling like Greg Olsen has been. But
Speaker 1: this Panthers team has averaged thirty six points per game
Speaker 1: the last three times they faced the Saints, and have
Speaker 1: gone over forty points three of the last four times
Speaker 1: they've painted. They've gone to get the Saints. This should
Speaker 1: be the highest scoring game of the week. I would
Speaker 1: have to imagine the Saints score nine more points per
Speaker 1: game at home than the new on the road in
Speaker 1: the since two thousand thirteen. So I think this is
Speaker 1: your shootout game of the week. If you have fantasy
Speaker 1: players involved, start them all. Start. Here's my question. Is
Speaker 1: this that Panthers team that's done that this that same
Speaker 1: time you're getting guys back, You're getting guys back. I
Speaker 1: think they can still move the ball. This is what
Speaker 1: confused me about them, because remember after that tough week
Speaker 1: was lost in Week two, they lit up everybody and
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin was going nuts. So I thought they were
Speaker 1: kind of back to normal. I think they get you
Speaker 1: say it's gonna be the shootout of the week. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what I think it's gonna be. Lock it up,
Speaker 1: because this is gonna be my yeah, maybe flock of
Speaker 1: the week. Lock it up, Spin it up, don't let
Speaker 1: this one out. What trauma you know? I mean for
Speaker 1: the listener trying to grasp what's happening here, Good luck
Speaker 1: to you. The Panthers have what's so confusing? For some reason,
Speaker 1: Dan and suddenly turned into like a w f A.
Speaker 1: And now, well, now that we have this new graphic
Speaker 1: on YouTube with the actual vault and makes everything a
Speaker 1: little bit more official, takes things up and Notch and
Speaker 1: dare I say, I'm more serious about it now because
Speaker 1: I actually see the vault. I don't want to let
Speaker 1: the vault down. I think you've got a good lock
Speaker 1: of the week, but I think people still want to
Speaker 1: view this. Panther's team is, oh yeah, this is a
Speaker 1: super Bowl defense plane. At that level, they'll come around,
Speaker 1: but it was it was not until last Sunday or
Speaker 1: last Monday that they gave up under twenty points. They've
Speaker 1: been flamed for seven and twenty one points. This is
Speaker 1: not the Panthers of last year, at least not right
Speaker 1: now campas New Orleans. That's true, and they should score
Speaker 1: a lot of points, but the Saints are a different
Speaker 1: team at home. Brandon Cooks Drew Brees. Their numbers in
Speaker 1: terms of the home road splits are just outrageous if
Speaker 1: you look at like the Football Outsiders numbers in terms
Speaker 1: of how these teams have been this year, Saints are
Speaker 1: twenty first, best team in the league. Panthers are twenty three.
Speaker 1: To me, that is about how they played. Because for
Speaker 1: as bad as the Saints have been that they are,
Speaker 1: four of their five games have come down to last
Speaker 1: two minutes. They have a very good offense. At least
Speaker 1: they have something to go by. And you'd hate to
Speaker 1: be a Panthers fan or or Ron Rivera and be
Speaker 1: in the super or a Ron Rivera fan. There's some
Speaker 1: out there. Four minutes left to go and this is
Speaker 1: the shootout and you're feeling like, gosh, our season could
Speaker 1: be over in Week six because we'll have a couple
Speaker 1: of you know, division losses here and be one in five.
Speaker 1: Last year's Saints defense was the worst rank defense in
Speaker 1: the history of Pro Football Outsiders metrics this year, they're
Speaker 1: allowing more points in yards per game than last year's historical,
Speaker 1: historically awful defense. They're bad, They're so bad. And then
Speaker 1: stick with the running game either they can't really get
Speaker 1: mark ingram going. They're missing that too. Let's move on
Speaker 1: to a real scorcher of the game in Chicago matchup
Speaker 1: between the one of three Jacksonville Jaguars and one and
Speaker 1: four Chicago Bears. Um seems like Chris wesling a good
Speaker 1: spot for Brian Hoyer to put up some more numbers
Speaker 1: and establish himself as the number one quarterback in Chicago
Speaker 1: with j Coulor getting back. But Jacksonvill's defense actually isn't
Speaker 1: that bad, right, so it could be a challenge. It's
Speaker 1: not terrible, But we're not talking about You're not facing
Speaker 1: the Seahawks of the Broncos here. You're facing Jacksonville. So
Speaker 1: maybe they're a little upgraded from last year. But you know,
Speaker 1: a Colts team missing several players still scored twenty seven
Speaker 1: points or twenty eight points on on the Jaguars, so
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that. And Brian Hoyer, we think Blake
Speaker 1: Bortles still has a bright future, but Brian Hoyner is
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in this game right now. I'm so
Speaker 1: all right, but the way Blake Bortles is playing, Brian
Speaker 1: Hoyer has three hundred yards and two tds and each
Speaker 1: of his three starts this year. Jake Cutler did that
Speaker 1: three times in his last twenties starts. Brian hoy is
Speaker 1: an upgrade. I'm Jake Cutler, deal with it. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's true. I think also had to think that. I
Speaker 1: think Bortos has potential to be better this year than
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer. I'll say that he has potential be but
Speaker 1: he certainly isn't right now. And Blake Bortos has four
Speaker 1: first quarter tds and thirty three career starts. Hoyer has
Speaker 1: four in his last seven games. Hoyer is a better
Speaker 1: quarterback right now than Blake Bortles, who once again has
Speaker 1: major fundamental issues with his delage. I think it allows
Speaker 1: the Bears to get going earlier than some people thought
Speaker 1: on exiting Cutler out of the organization, and you've got
Speaker 1: a better playing quarter back in there. But it's they
Speaker 1: should have done this. I had to contract made it
Speaker 1: hard that should have done this before long time ago.
Speaker 1: They're finally doing it, and Hoyer can put people. People
Speaker 1: are gonna be calling for Jake Cutler. That's not a
Speaker 1: kind of quarterback. He is well anyone ever. And it
Speaker 1: seems weird, but I think Kevin White's injury didn't hurt
Speaker 1: them because they get Cameron Merritt out there. He looks
Speaker 1: pretty good. Suddenly have two physical guys on the outside.
Speaker 1: You got lucky having injuries, get Jordan Howard into the lineup.
Speaker 1: I kind of think this is a really tough matchup, though.
Speaker 1: I I see the Jaguars defense is improving each and
Speaker 1: every week. And yeah, the Colts scored points, but they
Speaker 1: were dominated as much as any offensive team was dominated
Speaker 1: all season for three quarters. That game would have been
Speaker 1: over by that point if the Jaguars offense could just
Speaker 1: sustain the ball. I think this defense is getting a
Speaker 1: little better each week. They're coming off of by and
Speaker 1: they can start winning games on their own against mediocre offenses,
Speaker 1: and this is one of them. This is your chance
Speaker 1: because after that you gotta take down the Bears. You've
Speaker 1: got Oakland and the Titans, after that, the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: the Texans. These are games that if you're the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: you want to save your season, and probably some jobs
Speaker 1: there too. You gotta take something this the meat of
Speaker 1: the schedule has got to go your way. And here's
Speaker 1: the staff for those that are plugged in on Blake
Speaker 1: Bortle's being a garbage time Hall of Famer. The Jaguars
Speaker 1: are twelve and well when Bordles passes for over two
Speaker 1: nine yards, including oh and two this season. So any
Speaker 1: game where he's really lighting it up in his career,
Speaker 1: they've never won a game. Well that's been linked to
Speaker 1: what has been an awful defense that puts them in
Speaker 1: seventeen point holes right away. And it's not that I know,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, but it's it's like, it's not his
Speaker 1: fault that he's producing when they're down, but you're right,
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be hit pass heavy. It's his fault.
Speaker 1: You know, it's been his fault this season because his
Speaker 1: defense hasn't been bad. It's been a it's been average
Speaker 1: or a little better than average. All right, let's move on, guys,
Speaker 1: and let me just say one thing. I know the
Speaker 1: Bears are bad, but the Jaguars should not be favored
Speaker 1: over any team in the NFL until they prove that
Speaker 1: they are that team. The Bears are the better football
Speaker 1: team in this game? All right? I think the Bears
Speaker 1: are favorite, so they the people in the desert agree
Speaker 1: with you, mystery Desert folks. On to the home team
Speaker 1: of our current hometown, the Los Angeles market, the Rams.
Speaker 1: Three and two right in a three game winning streak.
Speaker 1: They traveled now to Detroit to face the Lions, and, um,
Speaker 1: you know, mark, is Todd Gurley ever gonna break out
Speaker 1: the season? Is he gonna have that game that we've
Speaker 1: been waiting while Ezekiel Elliott now steals all the headlines
Speaker 1: as this young dynamic back. There was a time not
Speaker 1: long ago where Gurley was that guy. What's going on here?
Speaker 1: Is it all on Todd Gurley? Is it not on
Speaker 1: not on him at all? Is it a share situation?
Speaker 1: I think it has a lot to do with the
Speaker 1: offense that he's in, and maybe almost all to do
Speaker 1: with that. I mean, they are a case Keenum led
Speaker 1: team that has tried to fool opponents or go to
Speaker 1: opponents into thinking that they can be a Kenny britt
Speaker 1: led pass offense. And there's just not that kind of
Speaker 1: star receiver that's gonna attract top defensive backs and take
Speaker 1: defenses away and open up spots for girly people are
Speaker 1: taking Gurley out of the game. That's still going to
Speaker 1: be the game plan. Case KEENUMU was their game manager
Speaker 1: last year and they told us this bill of goods
Speaker 1: about how we trust case Keenum over what was it
Speaker 1: five starts he threw one pick. He already has five
Speaker 1: picks over five starts this year. He has made some
Speaker 1: bad mistakes. He's lost a fumble, and I see bad
Speaker 1: decision making in the offensive line. Todd Gurley bears zero
Speaker 1: percent of the blame. I agree with struggles. He got
Speaker 1: a few creases last week and looked downright dynamic. He
Speaker 1: if he had any line. Next week's top ten articles
Speaker 1: gonna be top ten trapped players. Todd Gurley like that.
Speaker 1: DoD Gurley will be number one on the list with
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck right behind what's in a closet, trapped by
Speaker 1: surrounding talent that is holding him down. I would love
Speaker 1: to see Todd Gurley behind Dallas's offensive line. He might
Speaker 1: be a two thousand yard good r Kelly, Rethan and
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Speaker 1: which are every week they come out, they're excellent. You
Speaker 1: have my favorite name of the list was this week.
Speaker 1: What was it again? Well, they called it late Bloomers.
Speaker 1: I wonder to call it prodigal Sons, are reborn misfits,
Speaker 1: reborn misfits that could be our band? Aree that reborn
Speaker 1: of misfits? What was the one they came up with,
Speaker 1: late Bloomers. I'm gonna read that. It's a little bland right,
Speaker 1: reborn misfits. It makes me think of like they're disfigured animals.
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Speaker 1: got Kenny Britt's a surprise name on that list. He's
Speaker 1: on pace to finally be a RAMS receiver that goes
Speaker 1: over a thousand yards and their their talent isn't great
Speaker 1: on offense. But I think it's very telling that this
Speaker 1: week we're reading articles about Todd Gurley staying late before
Speaker 1: and after practice working on the passing game, because it
Speaker 1: took them three or four weeks to be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley is a good player. Maybe we shouldn't only
Speaker 1: run him in between the guards center combination. Maybe let's
Speaker 1: use him as a receiver where he's awesome. By the way,
Speaker 1: and they've done that the last couple of weeks and
Speaker 1: it's worked. It's like, why did that take a month?
Speaker 1: On a similar note, why did it take a month
Speaker 1: to put Tavon Austin back in the backfield again like
Speaker 1: they did last year and he had a lot of success.
Speaker 1: They did that last week and he looked good against
Speaker 1: the Can I answer the question. Jeff Fish is the
Speaker 1: head coach and the offensive coordinator is like a future
Speaker 1: tight ends coach in this CFL. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: get I think they're gonna get rampaged in this game.
Speaker 1: Detroit for Philadelphia got another lock, but I think this
Speaker 1: is a This is a bad matchup for the Rams,
Speaker 1: and I know that a mirab Dula is not in
Speaker 1: the lineup, but Detroit in the first half against Philly
Speaker 1: there was a lot going on. And the question is
Speaker 1: if Theo Riddick is not playing, that's a big part
Speaker 1: of the offense um that they don't have it. It
Speaker 1: sounds like he'll play. Eric Ebron might be out. Nawthew
Speaker 1: staffords playing great. He is top ten quarterback this year.
Speaker 1: But if he doesn't have Ebron and Rick Hello, he
Speaker 1: nod is out. They're missing a lot of players this
Speaker 1: Lions team. I think this Rams offense, this is just
Speaker 1: a total kind of mirage. I don't this is that
Speaker 1: it's gonna come back to Han this whole operation, and
Speaker 1: maybe not against the Lions defense though before Yeah, if
Speaker 1: put it this way, if the lines defense struggles in
Speaker 1: this game, you know how bad they are. Here some
Speaker 1: just basic rankings for the l A offense last and
Speaker 1: total tied for last, and scoring, rushing and passing to
Speaker 1: in the eighth. In the red zone percentage, yikes, that
Speaker 1: is gnarly to offensive line is holding that team hostage.
Speaker 1: And they put so much into the offensive line. That's way,
Speaker 1: that's the problem. Let's move on. Let's talk about a
Speaker 1: game between the Pittsburgh Steelers and Miami Dolphins, two teams
Speaker 1: going in opposite directions. The Steelers have put that ugly
Speaker 1: Eagles lost behind them with a couple of fairly dominant
Speaker 1: efforts um against the Bengals and Jets and the Dolphins
Speaker 1: is West alluded to, they stink. They stink. And I
Speaker 1: know Handsome hank Is always give me a hard time.
Speaker 1: Oh you're too hard on the Dolphins, you know, take
Speaker 1: it easy on him. You know I was down on
Speaker 1: him the summer and I'm even more down on him
Speaker 1: now because they they seem like to me West and
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong. One of the most lost
Speaker 1: franchises out there right now. They're a mess. They're a
Speaker 1: hot mess, and the effort level is what bothered me,
Speaker 1: not just with the players, the coaching staff sticking Billy
Speaker 1: Turner at left tackle. I know they were desperate. I
Speaker 1: know the Brandon Albert lost twelve pounds because he was sick,
Speaker 1: Laron a Tonsil was out because he slipped in the shower.
Speaker 1: So they stick Philly Turner out there at a position
Speaker 1: he's never played and asked him to block Brian i
Speaker 1: Rackpo coming off the edge when the Titans know the
Speaker 1: Dolphins have to pass because it's the fourth quarter in
Speaker 1: they're down, and they let him out there for two
Speaker 1: straight plays with the rack post sacking him. He had
Speaker 1: zero chance of stopping a rack Po and it wasn't
Speaker 1: ntil a drive later, Like, maybe we should offer a
Speaker 1: little chip block for this guy. He needs it. The
Speaker 1: loss to the Bengals and then the loss to the
Speaker 1: Titans is the worst two games stretched by any team
Speaker 1: this season. They're the worst team in the league. I
Speaker 1: don't They're not playing together. They're not a team. It's
Speaker 1: a hardly controversial statement because they would be the only
Speaker 1: winless team in the league if Cody Parkey had hit
Speaker 1: a field goal. I mean, this has not been competitive.
Speaker 1: This has been worse than any five games stretch in
Speaker 1: the Joe Philbin era. That doesn't mean, it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: that Adam Gates can't turn it around. But right now
Speaker 1: they're worse than they ever were under And here's to
Speaker 1: the effort issues potentially, and this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: stunner to every and Mario Williams being questioned. The defensive
Speaker 1: coordinator Vance Joseph told the ESPN this week he's got
Speaker 1: to play harder, he's got to play better. Obviously he's
Speaker 1: being allowed to rush the pastor but the games we've
Speaker 1: been and it's been more run for his past second game.
Speaker 1: So for us to be a great Russian team, we
Speaker 1: have to earn the right if they want to rushmore,
Speaker 1: stop to run more consistently. Mario Williams not playing hard,
Speaker 1: that's a syentiom of a larger problem. This is a
Speaker 1: mercenary team and it has been for a while. You
Speaker 1: you go out and you buy players, good teams, they
Speaker 1: develop and one of the benefits of developing players is
Speaker 1: the natural camaraderie. And you close these guys, you want
Speaker 1: to win for each other because you're a team. The
Speaker 1: Dolphins on the team their mercenary. Those those guys that
Speaker 1: got cut this week that were starting on the offensive
Speaker 1: way and they were drafted two gms ago to buy
Speaker 1: different GM two different gms to like a coach three
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators ago that it's a mess. And then you
Speaker 1: got the Steelers coming in. I mean, good luck, this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a Levi on Bell game. You would
Speaker 1: think if there ever was one catching balls out of
Speaker 1: the backfield, you got going up and down the field
Speaker 1: like over under two hundred yards from scrimmage for Levell.
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Speaker 1: Let's move on and talk about the Cincinnati ben Gals
Speaker 1: two and three. That doesn't get any easier now. You
Speaker 1: want to talk about a team that needed to, you know,
Speaker 1: do a little better in the early portion of their schedule. UH.
Speaker 1: Two wins in their first five games, and now they
Speaker 1: got to go to New England in what is Tom
Speaker 1: Brady's homecoming um, his first game UH since the end
Speaker 1: of the suspension in Gillette Stadium, where he is almost
Speaker 1: unbeatable if you look at the stats. I'm now forgetting
Speaker 1: what it was, but it was something insane. Where what
Speaker 1: is home record it has been? Uh? I think you
Speaker 1: told me forty and six and something that something insane
Speaker 1: like that. So now, uh, Cincinnati, they looked really ineffective
Speaker 1: against Dallas loss. Greg do they stand a chance against
Speaker 1: all this firepower in New England? I respect the Bengals
Speaker 1: enough over the last five years to say that they
Speaker 1: stand a chance that that it wouldn't that they have
Speaker 1: a modicum of hope to go in there. But there's
Speaker 1: nothing that they've shown on the field this year to
Speaker 1: make you think that they'd be competitive in this game
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. And there's nothing that we saw
Speaker 1: out of the Patriots really for this whole season, except
Speaker 1: for one one bad game that would say they'd let
Speaker 1: him in there. I mean, this is a Bengals offense
Speaker 1: that allowed four sacks to the Cowboys, that allowed the
Speaker 1: Cowboys pass rush to get all over Andy Dalton. L
Speaker 1: McLain was in the can't run the ball at all?
Speaker 1: I mean, when was the last time they ran the ball?
Speaker 1: It's about Week eight or nine last year when Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton was still healthy because they didn't run the ball
Speaker 1: at all. Down the stret Hill and Bernard are both
Speaker 1: under four yards per carry. It's just not the it's
Speaker 1: not the same group. The right tackle, Cedric who they
Speaker 1: drafted in the first round a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: has been a liability. He's been a downgrade from Andre Smith,
Speaker 1: which is pretty telling. I think they showed no identity
Speaker 1: on offense against Dallas. Cincinnati under Hugh Jackson when he
Speaker 1: was running the show there and even before that. They
Speaker 1: want to run the ball and they did a good
Speaker 1: job of it, and you've seen that translate where Hugh's
Speaker 1: gone next in Cleveland. But it's not the case in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: They had no rhythm. They couldn't get the running game
Speaker 1: going in the entire first half. Dallas ate them up.
Speaker 1: You look at this schedule that they played. They nipped
Speaker 1: a Jets team, they got decisively beaten by the Steelers,
Speaker 1: the Broncos, and the Cowboys there there. The Broncos game
Speaker 1: was close until about eight nine minutes left, but otherwise
Speaker 1: they're getting you know, they're getting decisively beaten. As you said,
Speaker 1: it's not like a Bengals team that's had bad luck
Speaker 1: or anything. I got a message over all the people
Speaker 1: who look at Tom Brady's appe the Cleveland Browns last
Speaker 1: week and say, oh yeah, anybody can do that against
Speaker 1: the brand, here's a message for you. Tom Brady has
Speaker 1: father time in the corner of the ring beating teeth
Speaker 1: round and father is on the ropes Tom Brady. Every
Speaker 1: year you watch this guy, he gets more nimble, his
Speaker 1: arm gets stronger, strong, gets better. Whatever program that goofy
Speaker 1: guy's got him working on with the with the rubber bands, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's the diet, it's the non weight training.
Speaker 1: Yet he doesn't look like Brady Quinn, looking like a
Speaker 1: WDF wrestler. He's got he He doesn't lift weights, he
Speaker 1: eats a perfect diet. Come on, get on the train.
Speaker 1: Dan Peyton has all these trees. His arm falls apart.
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's never had elbower shoulder problems. His arms strong,
Speaker 1: his legs are strong. He is the best thirty nine
Speaker 1: year old quarterback in NFL history. Dan hands, I decide
Speaker 1: to side with science, which typically works out. Thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean that he won't play. That he could
Speaker 1: have a good year. You guys, get in your church
Speaker 1: pews and you pray that the beautiful Tom Brady never
Speaker 1: gets old. Just had I will just hang out with
Speaker 1: a scientist, the true scientists. Scientists got their nose in
Speaker 1: the books, not watching the game film. Well, here's here's
Speaker 1: one problem already. Yeah, I'm gonna go nuts about him
Speaker 1: shredding the Cleveland Browns. It's not it's not it's the
Speaker 1: traits he showed. Wait until there's a pass rush come
Speaker 1: at him and and all of a sudden he can't
Speaker 1: move like he used to. He's getting old. And you
Speaker 1: know what, he ain't gonna fall off a cliff because
Speaker 1: you want to bury me when he has a passer
Speaker 1: rating that's still around one hundred. Hashtag slight regression off
Speaker 1: the cliff next year. Those are the words of a
Speaker 1: scared little boy. You are scared of and you should
Speaker 1: be scared this week the Bengals. If you think about
Speaker 1: the Bengals, what are the Bengals bad? It's that linebacker
Speaker 1: group perfect and they're just playing off. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: tough to match up with these tight ends and the
Speaker 1: Edelman and the running backs all over the middle of
Speaker 1: the field messing up. By the way, you would be
Speaker 1: the guys that were burning women at the stakes during
Speaker 1: the same one, which I am with the educated saying,
Speaker 1: why is that you're the intellect? And this absolutely I'm
Speaker 1: looking at you guys thinking myself, tisk tisc, Why aren't
Speaker 1: you how I always think? Yes? How is you going
Speaker 1: from the guy who got a thirty nine on a
Speaker 1: state man David matth test and it was okay to
Speaker 1: bring up a B minus two. Now you're on the
Speaker 1: side of intellect because I am who I am. He's
Speaker 1: a feminist too. How about I'm not trying to present
Speaker 1: myself as something I'm not. I'm just me. You guys
Speaker 1: can have your little head in the clouds about Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: all right, getting tired with science, it's getting tired. How
Speaker 1: about this. Let's focus on the defense which shut down
Speaker 1: the number game last week and they did nothing against
Speaker 1: New England. You want to talk about Tom Brady the
Speaker 1: whole time. That's fine. New England's defense down Cincinnati and
Speaker 1: take him out of this game. It's like, this is
Speaker 1: a complete team and they're going to the super Bowl
Speaker 1: and we're trying to make for the Bengals and saying
Speaker 1: that tom Brady's done not a nonsense. He said, he's done.
Speaker 1: Dan's having a nightmare back name my flashback, you know,
Speaker 1: hoping that he's not back at the super Bowl watching
Speaker 1: all three of us kind of harry it out, water
Speaker 1: up and down the host the lowest moment in the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast. It was so fun. I do
Speaker 1: find it interesting that Chris Wesley and Donald Trump share
Speaker 1: joined viewpoints on the deflate gate controversy. I don't even
Speaker 1: Donald Trump has a viewpoint on that. Yes he does.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you guys are also carrying the water for
Speaker 1: the Trump supporter. I wonder. I feel like I'm on
Speaker 1: the right side of history with a lot of this
Speaker 1: stuff we're talking about. You seem secure about. Let's move on,
Speaker 1: you guys get you know, go to your Trump rallies.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about? No AMC West showdown time,
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. The Kansas City Chiefs two and
Speaker 1: two traveling to Oakland to face the Rates who are
Speaker 1: four and one, the Raiders who keep on finding ways
Speaker 1: to win. Um. Andy Reid, of course, well known uh
Speaker 1: for his team's uh succeeding after the bye week, which
Speaker 1: I think means something. Uh. So, now we have a
Speaker 1: Chancellor Andy to coach up his team for two weeks
Speaker 1: to take on the Raiders. What do we think about
Speaker 1: this one? Greg, I think it's gonna tell us a
Speaker 1: lot about this A F C. West. I want to
Speaker 1: see this Chiefs offense start showing some progress because before
Speaker 1: the bye they weren't showing it. I mean they're throwing
Speaker 1: the ball forty times a game there in catchup mode.
Speaker 1: There's not a lot to be excited about. Whereas you
Speaker 1: look at your Oakland Raiders and there's a lot to
Speaker 1: be excited about. I mean Derek Carr every week. He's
Speaker 1: a tough guy to to pin down what is What
Speaker 1: is Derek Carr? Because people comparing to Brett Farvan, I
Speaker 1: think he's not Brett. He's not like Brett Farve at all.
Speaker 1: If anything, he'd rank high on the list of quarterbacks
Speaker 1: you'd expect to check the ball down on third and
Speaker 1: fifteen and let his punter go out on the field.
Speaker 1: He's not Damn yeah, he's not taken too many chances.
Speaker 1: It's a nice mix of a guy who knows when
Speaker 1: to be aggressive, when to be safe. You know what
Speaker 1: I love about black Jack del Rio. He's got that religion,
Speaker 1: he's got the epiphany touchdowns, not field goals. Touchdowns not
Speaker 1: field goals. You don't win games with field goals in
Speaker 1: the NFL in the twenty one century. And black Jack
Speaker 1: del Rio this isn't new. If you remember when he
Speaker 1: was with the Jaguars, people thought he was a conservative coach.
Speaker 1: He went for and made fourth downs better than anyone
Speaker 1: because he had the best short yardage weapon in the league.
Speaker 1: NFL now's Maurice Jones drew, he's been doing this for
Speaker 1: a long time. So m j D. Was he that
Speaker 1: NFL now version of MJD traveled back in time. He
Speaker 1: was a little more spelt back then. Okay, so that
Speaker 1: that era got you. I think the Raiders deserve credit
Speaker 1: for all offseason talking about the running back issue is
Speaker 1: something that needed to be addressed. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that they've found, you know, a fleet of all stars,
Speaker 1: but look at DeAndre Washington and Jalen Richard and I
Speaker 1: think that they've got a diverse backfield now along with
Speaker 1: Latavia's Murray, and they can do more on the ground,
Speaker 1: and they're a very balanced offense. They're hard to take down.
Speaker 1: You look at their schedule coming up after after what's
Speaker 1: coming up they have, They have a chance to make
Speaker 1: some make some dough here. Do you like their offense
Speaker 1: better with DeAndre Washington and Jalen Richard on the field
Speaker 1: and Latavia's Murray not anywhere? Yes, I do, because I
Speaker 1: think they the two of them are harder for defenses
Speaker 1: to deal with than just Latavius. I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out who I can come. I love
Speaker 1: Jalen Richard, love his movements just incredible, and those guys
Speaker 1: are being used together. It's not ones ahead of the other.
Speaker 1: I don't know who to compared. DeAndre wasatched, dude. They're
Speaker 1: fun to watch, though, I mean, it's like a poor
Speaker 1: man's a mir Abdula little could I would think he
Speaker 1: could be a little more physical, But yeah, I'll be
Speaker 1: I'll be interested to see how much Jamal Charles we've
Speaker 1: seen in this game, and if the Chargers or if
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are gonna have some issues working him back
Speaker 1: into their offense. Well, he says, he says he's a
Speaker 1: and his speed has never left, so it sounds like
Speaker 1: he's confident that he's the same player he was. I mean,
Speaker 1: it'd be great. I mean, this is a tough division,
Speaker 1: but this is a big game for the Chiefs. If
Speaker 1: you're if you're two and three and you're potentially looking
Speaker 1: up at the you're looking up at the Raiders are
Speaker 1: now gonna be five and one with some good wins.
Speaker 1: Who knows what the Broncos, you know, they gotta start,
Speaker 1: they gotta start looking a little bit and they're like
Speaker 1: the Chiefs team we expected. Yeah, and the Raiders after
Speaker 1: this have the Jaguars and then the Buccaneers, then they
Speaker 1: faced the Broncos. That could be a fascinating game. Three
Speaker 1: weeks from now, let's one. I'll go Oakland. I don't
Speaker 1: see what not to like here. I think that they listen.
Speaker 1: We we came very close to making them team of
Speaker 1: a t L for the for good reasons, and those
Speaker 1: don't go away because we didn't pick them. They're they're
Speaker 1: in this. They believe in themselves. We talked about team building.
Speaker 1: Why the Dolphins aren't that way? Why the why the
Speaker 1: Raiders are? I think they really believe in themselves and
Speaker 1: this this this will meet out and win. I think
Speaker 1: these two teams are much closer than their records will suggest.
Speaker 1: I'm picking the Chiefs because Andy Reid one of the
Speaker 1: best coaches of the Century is the bye week Master.
Speaker 1: He comes out of bye weeks and beats the crap
Speaker 1: out of Yeah. I am gonna pick the Raiders at
Speaker 1: a loyalty to them right now. But I really think
Speaker 1: this is a dangerous game and I would not be
Speaker 1: surprised in the least of the Chiefs. Yeah, I I
Speaker 1: agree with that. I think the way the Raiders have
Speaker 1: been vulnerable. I've been to the big passes. There are
Speaker 1: boomer bust offense. I don't know if the chief Chiefs
Speaker 1: aren't really the team to pull that off. If this
Speaker 1: were in Kansas City, I would wonder if it'd be
Speaker 1: Chiefs all the way around. But it's in Oakland, all right,
Speaker 1: Let's move on in uh an NFC big NFC game,
Speaker 1: A showdown here? Fox Games, So what are you gonna get?
Speaker 1: You can get you Joe Buck. You're gonna get your
Speaker 1: Troy Aikman. Although you know what Joe Buck MLB playoffs.
Speaker 1: It's confusing. Is he gonna be close? Maybe not downstairs?
Speaker 1: You can have Aaron Andrews who knows how to ask
Speaker 1: the right questions. What uh? The Falcons are four and
Speaker 1: one just went to Denver and beat the Broncos. The
Speaker 1: defending champions. Uh really the game. If you weren't kind
Speaker 1: of in on him before that, now a lot of
Speaker 1: people are. And now here is uh Dare I say
Speaker 1: an even bigger test, or at least right in that
Speaker 1: same ballpark, a trip to the Link to face the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks three and one coming off of bye. And
Speaker 1: you know, Russell Wilson. Last time we saw him, he
Speaker 1: was absolutely shredding Terrible Jets secondary. Um, I don't think
Speaker 1: we'll have that much of an easy time in this game.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, West, if he could do
Speaker 1: that when he was all banged up two weeks later,
Speaker 1: he's he's gonna be Russell Wilson. Still you think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is an intriguing matchup, the battle that the dan
Speaker 1: Quinn revenge game, his return to Seattle. But you've got
Speaker 1: I look at like the intriguing part is the other
Speaker 1: way around. The Falcons offense. They have beaten in consecutive
Speaker 1: weeks both Super Bowl teams from last year. Now they
Speaker 1: have a chance to beat the Super Bowl team from
Speaker 1: the year before, and you can look at it like
Speaker 1: this too. They could become the first team that the
Speaker 1: NFL researching department knows about that beat the previous years
Speaker 1: leader and takeaways the Panthers, total defense the Broncos and
Speaker 1: scoring defense the Seahawks in three consecutive weeks, which would
Speaker 1: be astonishing. It isn't It is an incredible matchup. I mean,
Speaker 1: this this Seahawks defense, It's like, we know it's good,
Speaker 1: but I don't think people, I don't know if we
Speaker 1: quite appreciate that it's probably the best defense of our
Speaker 1: lifetime in terms of over a four year strand. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's no team that's ever led the league in scoring
Speaker 1: defense four straight years or not since the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 1: And it's the same group of guys year after year.
Speaker 1: They're so tough to run against, which makes this such
Speaker 1: a fascinating matchup When it's the Falcons, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this. Well, it's the same personnel, right,
Speaker 1: You've got guys you hear about Richard Sherman and Earl
Speaker 1: Thomas and Michael Bennett. Bobby Wagner is having a great year. kJ. Right,
Speaker 1: you talk about the Falcons running backs picking on the
Speaker 1: Broncos linebackers K J. Wright, one of the best coverage
Speaker 1: linebackers in the NFL. They probably match up a lot
Speaker 1: better than the Broncos do. To me this the Broncos
Speaker 1: are gray, They're great defense. You can't take anything away
Speaker 1: from how dominant they were. The Panthers certainly would realize
Speaker 1: to me that the Seahawks are always gonna be the
Speaker 1: best until proven other, especially the way they've come out,
Speaker 1: and they're always adding new little wrinkles like Frank Clark
Speaker 1: being very good on third down. Deshan Chad's playing well
Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, I mean it's in Seattle, and that's
Speaker 1: a huge issue I think for the Falcons. But I
Speaker 1: give dan Quinn high marks also on defense because this
Speaker 1: is not an uber talented defense, not the way Seattle is.
Speaker 1: They have been extremely shorthanded at linebacker and you look
Speaker 1: at last week, looked at it next gen stats. They
Speaker 1: played with one or two linebackers on sixty one out
Speaker 1: of sixty three plays. That's hard to do and they
Speaker 1: what I think they we well, that's why they had
Speaker 1: to do it, which I'm saying he did a good
Speaker 1: job of effectively getting around that. They put pressure on Denver,
Speaker 1: took advantage of what that right tackle hole in Denver,
Speaker 1: and I think that was the one of the first
Speaker 1: game this season where the Broncos offense had zero identity.
Speaker 1: They stripped the Broncos of any sense of identity. So
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see. Gonna be a different story
Speaker 1: again Russell and but he inherited a terrible defense. And
Speaker 1: you look at you look at down at Gus Bradley
Speaker 1: and Jacksonville. Dan Quinn is getting there more quickly than
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. There are playoff team and no no team
Speaker 1: in history with the Falcon with an offense this good
Speaker 1: through five weeks has ever missed the playoff. But they
Speaker 1: could lose this game thirty one to four teams that
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised and it wouldn't take away from what
Speaker 1: they've done. You know, you go on the road too
Speaker 1: straight weeks. So the Broncos and the Seahawks like how
Speaker 1: dominants Matt Ryan been. He is first in passing yards
Speaker 1: per game, first in yards for a temp ten point
Speaker 1: four more own twelve touchdowns, second in the league, and
Speaker 1: a passer raading of one one point six. Uh So
Speaker 1: Ryan is shredding every opponent out there. Can I see
Speaker 1: one thing because I think it's one reason that Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: this is part of it that line has been such
Speaker 1: an issue in Atlanta for years and years. Alex Mack,
Speaker 1: who thrived in Cleveland, is one of the toughest centers has.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes these free agent signings they don't carry over.
Speaker 1: This was one of the best. People are saying it
Speaker 1: all over the place, and it makes sense if you
Speaker 1: watch it. Alex Mack, play after play is taking care
Speaker 1: of business, and it is multiple plays a game where
Speaker 1: he gives Matt Ryan in the pocket that one extra
Speaker 1: half second to get the pass off and that helps
Speaker 1: that offensive ton Let's pick this game mark Seattle again.
Speaker 1: The Falcons are for real, but Seattle is too good
Speaker 1: at home. I'm taking the Seahawks. I think the Falcons
Speaker 1: of the story of the NFL after this game, I
Speaker 1: think they win again. I do think the Seahawks will
Speaker 1: will win a relatively comfortable game. What a zeuser with,
Speaker 1: What a comfortable matchup? What a great coaching matchup. Carol
Speaker 1: and Shanahan might be the two. What do you think
Speaker 1: by comfortable? Because I think this type of I'm in
Speaker 1: on the Seahawks just being I think the Falcons are
Speaker 1: scoring more than fourteen points even against the great defense.
Speaker 1: Let's move on and talk about another great late game,
Speaker 1: this one between the Dallas Cowboys four and one heading
Speaker 1: to Green Bay to face the three and one Packers.
Speaker 1: The Packers um a nice win over the Giants where
Speaker 1: they look clearly like the better team and that matchup
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys are back to the two thousand fourteen
Speaker 1: Cowboys where they run the ball uh in a dominant fashion,
Speaker 1: they chew up the clock UH, their quarterback makes plays
Speaker 1: when he has to, and they they are doing it
Speaker 1: again this year and that's why they're four and one
Speaker 1: right now. However, Mark Sessler, can the Cowboys hang with
Speaker 1: a real team on the road? What do you think?
Speaker 1: I would like this better if it were in Dallas.
Speaker 1: But the matchup is the run game and the offensive
Speaker 1: line that you just mentioned against a run defense that
Speaker 1: has not given up more than fifty yards to any
Speaker 1: team this year. Here's the deal though, green Bay. Green
Speaker 1: Bay's run defense shows the signs of being completely legit.
Speaker 1: But they played the Jags, the Vikings with missing Adrian
Speaker 1: Peterson for a big part of that game, the Lions
Speaker 1: who have nobody, and the Giants, so that's not four
Speaker 1: premier run defenses this They will be tested this week
Speaker 1: out and that's not the only thing that Dallas does well.
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott has gotten better every week. We've talked about
Speaker 1: that every show that we've had featuring the Cowboys. This
Speaker 1: is a lot of times they'll say, oh, Cowboys, Green
Speaker 1: Bay game of the week. Of course it is, doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what the records are, have a nice time with yourselves.
Speaker 1: You're gonna we're gonna force you to watch it. But
Speaker 1: this time around, this game is exciting. I mean this,
Speaker 1: this is well no, because you know what, I have
Speaker 1: been down on the Cowboys for a long time because
Speaker 1: they could go three and thirteen and get eighteen Sunday
Speaker 1: night football games, and I don't like that dynamic. That
Speaker 1: does not feel right, That does not feel fair to
Speaker 1: me at all. This one deserves to be where it
Speaker 1: is in the late afternoon spot. Great Matchup's how fun
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are to watch. Everybody spends the whole week
Speaker 1: talking about the quarterback situation, which may not even matter
Speaker 1: for another month or whatever. But when I look at
Speaker 1: this team, this it's gonna sound like hyperbole, but in
Speaker 1: the twenty one century, to watch an offense that could
Speaker 1: have six future Hall of Famers on if you asked
Speaker 1: thirty two g ms in the league to pick the
Speaker 1: best tacker, tackle, garden center, or the one they would
Speaker 1: win on a team. I think they're taking Tirn Smith,
Speaker 1: Zack Martin, and Travis Frederick from the Cowboys. Des Bryant
Speaker 1: needs to stay healthy. He's got a chance for the
Speaker 1: whole of fame. I know it's early. Ezekiel Elliott special,
Speaker 1: There's no weakness in his game whatsoever. It's early for
Speaker 1: the lineman two in terms of Hall of Fame. Not
Speaker 1: that they want to have a chance, but these guys
Speaker 1: are These guys are all all Pro talents, and if
Speaker 1: you're an all Pro talent, you've got a chance at
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame someday. Jason Witten's Jason Witten's going.
Speaker 1: So there's six comes back. Romo's I get it, Donovan
Speaker 1: McNabb category right now. I would put Romo in. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm interested. I'm loving this game. I'm I'm annoyed
Speaker 1: that the two best games of the week are both
Speaker 1: for five. They should flex one early, make that move
Speaker 1: so you got one great one early one. Oh. By
Speaker 1: the way, Cool Beasley is a top five slot receiver
Speaker 1: this year too. I want to see more. Though, what
Speaker 1: I was trying was I was gonna say, I want
Speaker 1: to see more out of this Packers team. I'm not
Speaker 1: excited about this pack team. I'm kind of watching and
Speaker 1: it's the same stuff. And Aaron Rodgers is great and
Speaker 1: now he's getting great protection. So that's not an excuse.
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, let's show me something a little more.
Speaker 1: I've seen this movie before. I'm excited about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Here's a major, a major problem for the Packers on
Speaker 1: Sunday in terms of having a balance attack. Eddie Lacy
Speaker 1: has an ankle injury and we're starting to hear some
Speaker 1: not so great things about his availability. James Stark Starks,
Speaker 1: his backup, has a knee injury here at his knee
Speaker 1: this week. So if they're out those two guys, and
Speaker 1: those guys are significantly limited once again, you're putting Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers in a tough spot. And he's not automatic anymore
Speaker 1: last a year and a half or so. Well, he's
Speaker 1: not part of the solution right now as far as
Speaker 1: how to fix this offense. He's part of the problem.
Speaker 1: His footwork remains spotty. He likes to throw without setting
Speaker 1: his feet, which means it's not a surprise when he's
Speaker 1: last in the NFL and completion percentage. Well, you made
Speaker 1: a you made a a big move on your own
Speaker 1: personal QB index this week. I don't know if people
Speaker 1: saw Dan, if you saw Chris Twitter account, he said,
Speaker 1: for the first time in the years, for the first
Speaker 1: time in years, Aaron Rodgers would not be the quarterback
Speaker 1: Chris Wesleyan wanted for the next two to three years.
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger's now that ever since that Super Bowl run
Speaker 1: in two thousand two eleven, I thought Aaron Rodgers was
Speaker 1: the best player in the NFL and the guy want
Speaker 1: to build around for the next couple of years. I
Speaker 1: would take Big Ben over Aaron Rodgers right now. Fair enough.
Speaker 1: H Let's move on, guys and talk about the Indianapolis
Speaker 1: cults heading to Houston UH to take on the Texans,
Speaker 1: and the Texans could not hang last week against the Vikings,
Speaker 1: overwhelmed atteen loss the Colts, they flirted with disaster. Greg
Speaker 1: you said before last week's game that that could be
Speaker 1: the biggest game and the or attorney point for the
Speaker 1: Pagano UH, Griggs and ra if they couldn't find a
Speaker 1: way to win they just barely did find they do
Speaker 1: they seem to do so. But uh, here's Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: now facing the Texans without J. J. Watt. But the
Speaker 1: problem here, Greg is that it's seems like it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter who Andrew Luck plays. He's getting tossed around like
Speaker 1: a rag doll. Yeah, they can't protect him, and and
Speaker 1: the Texans have enough good pass rushers to get after
Speaker 1: teams well. Jendeveon Clowney's coming off his best game of
Speaker 1: the season by far, was mostly in the running game,
Speaker 1: but he looks good. Whitney Merciless. It's still a good
Speaker 1: Texans defense, not a great one. Uh. But the the
Speaker 1: biggest weak spot in this game is not the Colts defense.
Speaker 1: You would think Colts defense Texans offense. You know, going
Speaker 1: into the here, you would think Houston has the edge.
Speaker 1: I give the edge of the Colts defense right now.
Speaker 1: That's how bad brock os Wiler and this Houston offense
Speaker 1: is playing. And on the other side of Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: is playing really well. Yeah, And there's no way I
Speaker 1: am taking a brock offs water let offense against and
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck led offense in Houston. That I know that,
Speaker 1: I know it's in Houston. But there's no way I'm
Speaker 1: picking brockofs Water to beat Andrew Luck. Right now, we're
Speaker 1: looking at the board. This is the third worst defense
Speaker 1: in the league and tied for the second to worst
Speaker 1: offense in terms of yard and so, all things being equal,
Speaker 1: I would agree with you West, but I I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go with Houston in this game because I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna get something, a little freaky, little wolf fuller action,
Speaker 1: something just to put them over the edge. The Cults are.
Speaker 1: It is not Andrew Luck's fault on any level, but
Speaker 1: I I feel like this it gets time get tired
Speaker 1: of talking about the Cults because it's every week. I
Speaker 1: don't like the way they're put together. I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna press a button that says that every week
Speaker 1: they're not fun for me to watch. I don't enjoy
Speaker 1: the way that they approach games, and Houston to me,
Speaker 1: is the better coach team. Bill O'Brien's had some problems
Speaker 1: this year. That last game was a disaster against the Vikings,
Speaker 1: but they ran into a buzz saw. That's a good
Speaker 1: team they played. They got ripped by the Patriots. That's
Speaker 1: another great team that could be your Super Bowl preview
Speaker 1: right there. The Cults are not one of those teams.
Speaker 1: And I'm tired of hearing from the top on down
Speaker 1: that the Cults are breadth away from the playoffs. Give
Speaker 1: me a break, well, because that's what inside the building.
Speaker 1: They seem to still think that they are that. But
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means division exactly. I don't
Speaker 1: know what winning the a f C South meaning yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Luck meaning always makes it, watch it.
Speaker 1: T Y. Hilton's off to having a really nice season.
Speaker 1: I mean he's putting up numbers. Luck I think has
Speaker 1: consciously dialed it back. If you watch him, I think
Speaker 1: he's really trying to take that step towards being a
Speaker 1: little more like the Brady Manning types and not take
Speaker 1: so many. He's more careful. He's more careful, and it's working.
Speaker 1: That's why you can say he's doing everything that he
Speaker 1: can do, because he's still making some great plays, but
Speaker 1: he's not taking You see plenty of quarterbacks say they're
Speaker 1: going to do that and then instinctively they don't and
Speaker 1: they're out of the lineup by week four. It's good
Speaker 1: if Luck can actually make that adjustment. He's always had
Speaker 1: the kind of ball placement on throws on the run
Speaker 1: where you just say, you shake your head and say,
Speaker 1: how many people can do that? But he mix a
Speaker 1: lot of errand throws and he's not doing as much
Speaker 1: of that this year. When one thing out of Vosswealer
Speaker 1: I don't like is when he misses throws or things
Speaker 1: go bad, and you know, I hate to be the
Speaker 1: body language, but he does. He does this sort of
Speaker 1: like I can't believe it, you know, and he like
Speaker 1: goes over to the sideline kind of don't that's a
Speaker 1: drop from now and at the end of time we
Speaker 1: need that. Greg's whole body went. He's like the opposite
Speaker 1: of Case Keaton. Case Keating might be the best quarterback
Speaker 1: in the league, but man, he's like going crazy. He's
Speaker 1: like excited like a kid every time they do something.
Speaker 1: I think there's probably inside of Oswiler's mind a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure. I mean, you were the premier free agent
Speaker 1: signing and you're watching invited that pressure. Yes he did,
Speaker 1: and you know what, He's going home to a house
Speaker 1: with twenty seven rooms, so it can't be that bad.
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna say, to quote Liberaci, he's laughing all
Speaker 1: the way to the beast. He is, but there are
Speaker 1: like five or six rookies that have played in spot
Speaker 1: time or started this year that looked better than him already.
Speaker 1: Trevor Simeon looks better already. John Elway looks a lot
Speaker 1: better already. I mean, what else do you need. Let's
Speaker 1: move on to Monday Night football. The New York Jets
Speaker 1: one in four, the season in tatters, going down in flames,
Speaker 1: nothing to be excited about. Travel to Arizona to face
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. A Cardinals team that did not have uh,
Speaker 1: their quarterback Carson Palm last week in a win. Now
Speaker 1: they get Carson Palmer back, who is uh he is
Speaker 1: out of the concussion protocol correct right, so he will
Speaker 1: be back in action. We want to see how he
Speaker 1: looks now. Great matchup for the entire Cardinals passing attack
Speaker 1: because the Jets have one of the worst secondaries and
Speaker 1: football's it's turned out, and we still don't know if
Speaker 1: Jerrold Rievers is playing this week as of as of
Speaker 1: this taping, and because it's a very good chance, well
Speaker 1: they will be without him again. And one thing I
Speaker 1: want to say with this, the one thing that Jets
Speaker 1: have to hold on to defensively is they still stop
Speaker 1: the run very well. But what Pittsburgh did last week
Speaker 1: is a blueprint that I'm sure Bruce Arians and the
Speaker 1: Cardinals will follows, Like, Okay, if we can't get a
Speaker 1: running game going well, we'll do is just check it
Speaker 1: down and throw a bunch of screen passes and find
Speaker 1: different ways to get the ball in the hands of
Speaker 1: David Johnson. So don't be surprised, fantasy heads out there,
Speaker 1: if you're running back, if you have David Johnson has
Speaker 1: between eighty and a hundred yards receiving in this game,
Speaker 1: because they're gonna once the ball gets to these running backs.
Speaker 1: The jetsice don't have the personnel to stop these guys
Speaker 1: before they pick up five to twenty yards. Don't be surprised.
Speaker 1: Also if this is the week that John Brown and
Speaker 1: Michael Floyd joined Larry Fitzgerald and make this the top
Speaker 1: wide receiver trio again, because like you said, the Jets
Speaker 1: give up, they hemorrhage big plays in the secondary. That's
Speaker 1: John Brown's forte getting deep and Michael Floyd is a
Speaker 1: big play receiver when he's right. He hasn't been right
Speaker 1: this year, whether it's mentally or physically or whatever. He
Speaker 1: hasn't been right. Forty eight dropbacks for Roethlisberger, one QB
Speaker 1: hit by the Jets last week, So that that's a
Speaker 1: problem that the Cardinals have not been able to deal
Speaker 1: with pressure. I think this is a game where you
Speaker 1: see Todd Bowls, who has been a little cautious this
Speaker 1: year because his secondary is bad. Maybe just throw a
Speaker 1: little caution to the win and just come after this Cardinals.
Speaker 1: You've you've been saying this week, you think this is
Speaker 1: a buzz saw, you know, type of matchup having to
Speaker 1: go there on midnight I said last week, was this
Speaker 1: one not necessarily? I mean, I gotta see it. I
Speaker 1: gotta see it out of the Cardinals before I think
Speaker 1: there anything but an average team. They have, they opsolute
Speaker 1: at least should be better, but they want to. They
Speaker 1: gotta show it. They haven't put it all together. They've
Speaker 1: put signs, they've got who's got a better bookend a
Speaker 1: rushing tandem right now than Marcus Golden and Chandler Jones.
Speaker 1: Their secondary has the pieces, they haven't done it yet.
Speaker 1: And then on offense, I think the pieces are there too.
Speaker 1: You just gotta get Carson Palmer healthy and everybody on
Speaker 1: the same page. And I think I do think this
Speaker 1: is a bit of a sleeping giant. The pieces are
Speaker 1: there for the Cardinals. It might be if they ever
Speaker 1: lost this game, they are I would wonder what happens
Speaker 1: to them. I think it might be over because you've
Speaker 1: got Seattle next week. If you're the Cardinals, you gotta
Speaker 1: go to Carolina. Not a great team, but that's that's
Speaker 1: a tough matchup for the Cardinals the way in their
Speaker 1: current state. Then after the bye two weeks later, you've
Speaker 1: got the Vikings. You've got a rough stretch. This is cool.
Speaker 1: We're gonna find out what the Cardinals are. And on
Speaker 1: the Jet side, the loss of Eric Decker. He got
Speaker 1: set to I R. He's having shoulder surgery and he's
Speaker 1: probably done for the year. We all knew would be
Speaker 1: a big loss if he was gone, but it really
Speaker 1: is magnified when you're actually in the middle of watching
Speaker 1: these games and the Jets get to the red zone
Speaker 1: and Brandon Marshall is a stud down the red zoe,
Speaker 1: but they have no one else to go to. And Decker,
Speaker 1: that was his specialty. He was a lock for them
Speaker 1: last year for you know, seventy five in a touch
Speaker 1: almost every week, and they simply don't have the bodies.
Speaker 1: I know when people got excited about Quincy and non
Speaker 1: Noir earlier in the season, as did I, but he
Speaker 1: has not been able to pick up the slack and
Speaker 1: they don't have much behind him. So a huge loss
Speaker 1: of Eric Decker. I mean, this is just a bad
Speaker 1: situation for the Jets. I think it will be competitive though.
Speaker 1: I just got a feeling this game goes into the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter and it's a tight game. But I can't
Speaker 1: say that I see the Jets coming out of here.
Speaker 1: There are people out there now picking on the way
Speaker 1: the Jets have been put together and built that they're old,
Speaker 1: that they've got this defensive line, the statue of defensive linement,
Speaker 1: but outside of it, they're an aging team with a
Speaker 1: lot of stop gap type players. And if you look
Speaker 1: at it, it's not a crazy thing to say, or
Speaker 1: does it concern you that maybe the whole GM group
Speaker 1: on down it's gonna have to take a step back
Speaker 1: and rebuild this team big time. You got old players
Speaker 1: in this. I think it comes down to this. For me,
Speaker 1: is the Reevas situation with him get I think that
Speaker 1: affected the entire team, the mindset of the team, the
Speaker 1: snagger of the team, and most importantly from a personnel standpoint,
Speaker 1: you thought you had a guy who's still even if
Speaker 1: he wasn't number one, he was like top ten and
Speaker 1: you could that guy don't have to worry about once
Speaker 1: he became a liability and now he got hurt. Everything
Speaker 1: hit the fan, and I don't think they've recovered from
Speaker 1: that as a team. I think that's been a big
Speaker 1: reason why their secondary has been so bad because him
Speaker 1: all of a sudden becoming mortal. I don't think Todd
Speaker 1: Bowles was prepared for space wasn't prepared for that. That
Speaker 1: was a stunning setback for the franchise. We heard Gary
Speaker 1: Kubiak talk about getting DeVante book or more in because
Speaker 1: he has fresh legs. That Forte has got the opposite
Speaker 1: of fresh legs right now. Yeah, he shouldn't have. He's
Speaker 1: a lot like Gore, who's they're like my two favorite
Speaker 1: guys from like fort Is playing through injuries because they're
Speaker 1: good as role players, but they don't have the juice,
Speaker 1: they don't have the burst right now. More involved in
Speaker 1: the whole way. He's a good guy out of the backfield,
Speaker 1: he's become their receiving act. But they should have more
Speaker 1: of it, not an even load, but maybe you know,
Speaker 1: all right, that's it. We will be back on Sunday.
Speaker 1: That's the next time you'll hear from us. All the
Speaker 1: games that we just talked about. We will recap uh
Speaker 1: and we're gonna do it with a touch of mirth.
Speaker 1: I like when we do that. Hey, so jabrone over
Speaker 1: on the Twitter bomb. Listen to me. Listen to me
Speaker 1: going after this guy. It's a little a little too
Speaker 1: much at this point, personally, a little petty, but I
Speaker 1: like it. It's gonna be some berth, but there's also
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of football goodness. Let's get out
Speaker 1: of here. This is Dan Hanses signing off four The
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Boss and Lassid behind the
Speaker 1: glass and a great John behind the Glass by the
Speaker 1: whole crew, you guys, a great Until Sunday. Remember that
Speaker 1: show V We're like the lady has a baby and
Speaker 1: then it's an alien baby, and like that's it's the
Speaker 1: end of the season and it's like such a nice moment. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she picks up the baby and the doctor and everyone's like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's a cute baby. And then like just seconds before
Speaker 1: the season like the credits hit, like this huge lizard
Speaker 1: tongue shoots out of the baby and licks the mom
Speaker 1: in the face. She's like, yeah, we're ready.