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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Colleen Wolf and I'm joined by room
Speaker 1: filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Wesling, and Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: It's up, boys. This is so weird that Dan's not here,
Speaker 1: not doing this. It's gonna everybody. Dan is off. So
Speaker 1: I'm sitting in. It's it's great to have you back.
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate it happens on a day. You know, Dan
Speaker 1: can't be here, but this happens once a year. Actually,
Speaker 1: he's got a great Handsas family reunion and we're going
Speaker 1: to be hearing from them a little later. So and
Speaker 1: we're happy he can be with this family, and we're
Speaker 1: happy you can be here. And it's possible that the
Speaker 1: whole hands His family has gathered around to watch the
Speaker 1: sun periscope as we speak. So, you know, West, keep
Speaker 1: your negative comments to yourself, so we'll say hello to them. Wes.
Speaker 1: I like your shirt, Oh yeah, thank you. I've gotta
Speaker 1: support Tabby Island and Hucka Poos after they survived the hurricane.
Speaker 1: Uh and it looks like a hurricane hit the island
Speaker 1: it's there's a lot of damage, but you know, you
Speaker 1: have to hand it to the mayor who got everyone prepared,
Speaker 1: had fought for like the sandary nourishment and got the
Speaker 1: beaches like after her after Hurricane Katrina. He really fought
Speaker 1: to get ty be ready for it. My former roommate
Speaker 1: Jason Beltraman Tybee survived. Huckapoos was the place to be
Speaker 1: on Saturday, free pizza for all the people who stayed
Speaker 1: on the island. Wow, that's great. And Mark your parents were, Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: my my parents lived just up the coast and they
Speaker 1: evacuated last Tuesday. I think thinking it would just be
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of day or two away and
Speaker 1: you know, in the middle of Georgian in a hotel.
Speaker 1: They have not been back since you can't get on
Speaker 1: Hilton Head Island at the point where they live. And uh,
Speaker 1: they brought about two days worth of clothing. So it's
Speaker 1: been slightly chaotic, but hopefully back to normal enough. I'm
Speaker 1: glad they're okay. We're thinking about everybody who's been affected
Speaker 1: by Hurricane Matthew and um hopefully maybe football helps in
Speaker 1: times like this when you're going through it. So this
Speaker 1: is the good thing. Your parents aren't Browns fans. Yes, well,
Speaker 1: they're wise enough not to have ever gone down that road.
Speaker 1: So I'm sorry. This is gonna be rough. All right.
Speaker 1: It is the Sunday edition of the Around the NFL Podcast,
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Speaker 1: We got you, all right. So let's start with the
Speaker 1: game that everybody has been talking about basically since the
Speaker 1: season began. Tom Brady, he's back and he returned, throwing
Speaker 1: for four hundred yards three touchdowns, three three of them
Speaker 1: to Martellis Bennett no less, as the Patriots beat the
Speaker 1: Browns thirty three to thirteen in Cleveland. So Rosie Brady
Speaker 1: said that there was plenty of rust. Did you see it? No?
Speaker 1: I did not see a lot of rust. This looked
Speaker 1: like mid season form Tom Brady. Right off the bat.
Speaker 1: You go down the field, score touchdown, score touchdown on
Speaker 1: your first three uh drives. Basically perfect for the first
Speaker 1: half until they got stuffed on the goal line and
Speaker 1: Mark made a smart move over the week weekend really
Speaker 1: decided he didn't want to cover this game because he
Speaker 1: thought it wasn't gonna go well for the Browns and
Speaker 1: it would have been a tough one to watch for
Speaker 1: Browns fans, and I think it's got to get a
Speaker 1: lot of other teams in the a f C thinking
Speaker 1: how do we match up with this team? That was
Speaker 1: my takeaway, not so much Brady, but the return of
Speaker 1: the Gronk. Because when you got Gronk and martellis bet
Speaker 1: it out there as your base package, Chris Hogan making
Speaker 1: noise on the outside, how do you match up with
Speaker 1: those guys? You don't? And they didn't today. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: mean there was a lot of rust on the field
Speaker 1: and it was in a team wearing rust colored shirts,
Speaker 1: pants and sucks. I mean, they look completely unprepared from
Speaker 1: the first minute because I was I was watching this
Speaker 1: on a side screen and Cleveland's you know, they have
Speaker 1: a lot of Achilles heels, but one of their primary
Speaker 1: ones is their secondary. And you could tell within five
Speaker 1: minutes of this game opening that a Tom Brady was
Speaker 1: absolutely scorching hot and on fire and ready to roll
Speaker 1: and be Cleveland secondary was still somewhere up in Brie
Speaker 1: on the practice field. Well, they don't have a path
Speaker 1: as rush and they don't have a secondary. It's a
Speaker 1: bad it's a bad defense combination. That's that's done well
Speaker 1: so far. But to me, watching the first drive of
Speaker 1: the game, it's not so much Brady's back, it's Gronk
Speaker 1: is back, because that seemed like a bigger question mark
Speaker 1: to me. He is running over defenders, you know, frolicking
Speaker 1: through the open field, kind of like he does in
Speaker 1: his his best times. He's making great physical catches. He's
Speaker 1: blocking well, uh he did that on a one of
Speaker 1: the touchdowns for Lagarrett Blunt, And to me, that makes
Speaker 1: all the difference in the world. Having Gronk back, he's
Speaker 1: having fun. He looks like he's having fun, unlike Odell.
Speaker 1: Can't wait a month. Maybe they'll get Dion Lewis back,
Speaker 1: and then what our defense is gonna do? Yeah, yet
Speaker 1: another element to this. I think they could have average
Speaker 1: game if that happens. Yeah. It was a reminder because
Speaker 1: after a while I've gotten used to watching Jacobey bricept
Speaker 1: for you know, two and a half games, like, Wow,
Speaker 1: this team, it's not the same team that Brady left.
Speaker 1: The team that Brady left was not as explosive. They
Speaker 1: eight struggled to push the ball down the field last year. Today,
Speaker 1: I think he was four of six or five of
Speaker 1: seven on throws that went over twenty yards in the air,
Speaker 1: So that's two Gronk, that's to Hogan who had some
Speaker 1: deep plays down the field, and Bennett with the three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: It Benett didn't even do that much. He was so
Speaker 1: wide open because I think the attention is going elsewhere.
Speaker 1: It almost seemed like New England took their foot off
Speaker 1: the gas, you know, you know, midway through this game.
Speaker 1: But they could and they didn't have to go all out.
Speaker 1: But we're finally seeing you know, when they had Cronk
Speaker 1: and Aaron Hernandez back in the day before Aaron Hernandez
Speaker 1: did a rather bad thing. Um, the idea of a
Speaker 1: two tight end under you know that just I'm underselling it.
Speaker 1: But they have that two tight end situation now that
Speaker 1: is an impossible matchup for defense. Is this is what
Speaker 1: Belichicks wanted for years. And the difference is these two
Speaker 1: tight ends you both really have to respect as blockers,
Speaker 1: so you don't know if they're going out on a
Speaker 1: route on any given down. And I think that just
Speaker 1: makes it so tough for the defense to figure out
Speaker 1: who to cover. Day ends. A whole regression thing for
Speaker 1: Tom Brady not starting out very well, Tom Brady today
Speaker 1: joined Warren Moon is the only quarterback ever aged thirty
Speaker 1: nine or older with three touchdowns and yards in a game. Well,
Speaker 1: he he was playing the Browns and he was protected well,
Speaker 1: and that that's all fine, But the Browns are an
Speaker 1: NFL team, and he had one of the best games
Speaker 1: I've seen from any quarterback this year. According to you,
Speaker 1: that's fair to say. But also, Tom Brady, I'm saying,
Speaker 1: according to you, the Browns look like an n team
Speaker 1: right now. They have a ways to go. In my book, Well,
Speaker 1: I feel bad for the Browns. Cody Kesler went through
Speaker 1: quarterbacks Cody Kessler, Charlie Whitehurst, and then they had to
Speaker 1: put Terrell Prior in there. Well, they're not. It's the opposite.
Speaker 1: They're not protecting their quarterback the same way. No, and
Speaker 1: Kessler's injury, uh came on a play where they blitzed
Speaker 1: Dante Hie Tower, who made some big plays early in
Speaker 1: the game. He didn't recognize he throws it backwards for
Speaker 1: a safety. It was a disastrous play. And I think
Speaker 1: Kessler's played well in the first few weeks. So it's
Speaker 1: disappointed because the minute Charlie Whitehurst entered the game, it
Speaker 1: was kind of like, Okay, you can't run any sort
Speaker 1: of offense. Kesser had a touchdown drive that to make
Speaker 1: the game seven seven at one point. But I think
Speaker 1: they're they're kind of cooked in terms of watching them
Speaker 1: as a real NFL team if Whitehurst is starting. Malcolm
Speaker 1: Brown had a great game today too. He had two sacks.
Speaker 1: I think in that game, Yeah, I think, what did
Speaker 1: you see out of Malcolm Brown? Gregg Well? He he
Speaker 1: played well against the run. They they decided to try
Speaker 1: to stop Isaiah crow Well. He had two sacks. Crowell
Speaker 1: and Duke Johnson entered this game as the leading you
Speaker 1: know rushers in the league in terms of yards per carry,
Speaker 1: and they combined for seven teen rushes for twenty three yards.
Speaker 1: So they needed it. That the Patriots defense has been
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say up and down, but they got good
Speaker 1: performances out of Brown and high Tower today. Though. One
Speaker 1: of the most interesting tweets I saw today was from
Speaker 1: NFL Networks Courtney Fallon, who said she had a Brown
Speaker 1: source who told her that Terrell Prior is the only
Speaker 1: untouchable player on the roster and that's who they're building around.
Speaker 1: They'll trade all pros like Joe Thomas, but they trade
Speaker 1: Drell Prior. Well, they were willing to trade Thomas last year,
Speaker 1: and I think that they didn't want to do that
Speaker 1: going into this year without an acceptable back up to him.
Speaker 1: But he's been on the market for the right price
Speaker 1: for a long time. And if you're gonna, if you're
Speaker 1: willing to part with Joe Thomas, well they've talked about
Speaker 1: other all pro what other Who else are we talking
Speaker 1: about here? Joe Joe Hayden in theory, So yeah, you're
Speaker 1: willing to trade anyone, probably about your rookie class. It's
Speaker 1: not that much of a shock to me that Terrell
Speaker 1: Prior has no from Prior from Prior. From the prior angle, yes,
Speaker 1: but that's the rest of the roster. That's the only
Speaker 1: angle I found interesting that Darrell Prior is gone from
Speaker 1: a guy that nobody in the league wanted to a
Speaker 1: guy Hugh Jackson brought in personally and made a centerpiece
Speaker 1: of the row. Well, he was here last year, he
Speaker 1: was in Cleveland last year, to be honest, but Hill,
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson knows him and he's developed him. How how's
Speaker 1: week five now of the all raw foods diet until
Speaker 1: the Browns win a game. How are you feeling, Mark?
Speaker 1: And now that you look well five and Kessler's hurt? Now,
Speaker 1: how are you? I feel okay, which is, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty because this is going to go on deep
Speaker 1: into the winner potentially. So wow, it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: long winter. Yes it is. But we're right here with you.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on. Here's your raw foods diet
Speaker 1: taking you to weird places mentally, because sometimes when you
Speaker 1: change your diet or you know, most religious gurus go
Speaker 1: through some weird phase where they're deprived of food for
Speaker 1: a while. Well, I'm not a religious guru, so let's
Speaker 1: start there. Um, But no, I feel fine. I mean
Speaker 1: I've dabbled in this in the past, so well I
Speaker 1: thought maybe it would send you down the religious guru route.
Speaker 1: No it will not, Okay, thank you for asking. Okay,
Speaker 1: well that's settled. How about Cincinnati and Dallas Ezekiel Elliott Fever.
Speaker 1: It's spreading the Cowboys rookie running background for one four
Speaker 1: yards and two touchdowns. That's an eight point nine yards
Speaker 1: per carry average in fourteen win over the Bengals to
Speaker 1: move to four and one. So Mark, there's two rookies
Speaker 1: here that look electric still absolutely I mean Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: and rookie quarterback Dak Prescott have been today. I think
Speaker 1: was an absolutely sensational perform by both. And minutes into
Speaker 1: the game, first drive for the Cowboys, they marched right
Speaker 1: down the field, rip about five plus minutes off the
Speaker 1: clock and Elliott has forty two yards in an excellent
Speaker 1: touchdown run and you knew right there that the tone
Speaker 1: was set. Finishes with a hundred and thirty four yards
Speaker 1: on the day. And it's the same thing we talked
Speaker 1: about last week. Elliott gets stronger as the game goes on.
Speaker 1: He's much more decisive than he was in Week one,
Speaker 1: and he's running behind one of the best lines in football,
Speaker 1: if not the best line, and it showed they got it.
Speaker 1: This was the worst Bengals game we've seen in years.
Speaker 1: I did not expect it to come out this I
Speaker 1: did not see it coming this way either, but they
Speaker 1: got They got down early and there was no way
Speaker 1: for them to get back in. The Bengals are missing,
Speaker 1: you know, the players they let go in free agency.
Speaker 1: And with this second half run, when Ezekiel Elliott blasted
Speaker 1: for this touchdown, this was the end of this game,
Speaker 1: play at Sydney Center. Set Elliott come all right, fifty
Speaker 1: yard line, prove he's going and down seeked Elliott locked
Speaker 1: all of ang That is our friend Brad Sham at
Speaker 1: kr LD and Dallas and Big d And you know,
Speaker 1: here's the thing with Elliott and the Cowboys. They right
Speaker 1: now lead the league and drives of five plus minutes,
Speaker 1: and they lead the league and drives of ten plus plays.
Speaker 1: So there's nothing flukey happening here. Like the Cowboys team
Speaker 1: that West that you talked about in the off season
Speaker 1: where they wanted to be like they were in two
Speaker 1: thousand fourteen. It took a little bit of time for
Speaker 1: that to develop, but it is happening and it came
Speaker 1: into full bloom today. We got West out of his
Speaker 1: seat three or four times to come watch a sequel Elliott. Look,
Speaker 1: he's on pace for seven hundred and fifty rushing yards,
Speaker 1: which is the second most of all time, better than
Speaker 1: Earl Campbell, better than Adrian Peterson as a rookie. This
Speaker 1: is rare, rare territory that he's going through. They they
Speaker 1: dictate at the start of each and every game. It's
Speaker 1: crazy that they've been able to do that five straight
Speaker 1: weeks with rookies at quarterback and running back, that they
Speaker 1: in the first twenty minutes of every game, the first
Speaker 1: twenty minutes of game time, they say, this is what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do, and they do it and and it.
Speaker 1: And I know that Tony Roma discussion is seems crazy,
Speaker 1: but every game like this, but the way that Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott is playing, at least they can just wait and
Speaker 1: see and like and be careful about bringing Roma back
Speaker 1: because Dak Prescott is playing at a level you just
Speaker 1: don't see rookies playing well. He's He's a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty plus passes without a pick. He did have his
Speaker 1: first turnover of the whole year today with a lost fumble.
Speaker 1: But really, honestly, the fact that this game does not
Speaker 1: do service in terms of explaining how poor the Bengals,
Speaker 1: you know, dealt with this early lead, the early deficits
Speaker 1: they fell into, They had no way out and Green
Speaker 1: was shut down absolutely. Green was essentially erased. Had one
Speaker 1: catch for nine yards in the first half. Mo Claiborne
Speaker 1: had a couple penalties in this game, but he is
Speaker 1: playing the best football of his entire career. That secondary
Speaker 1: wanted this more than the Bengals offense wanted it. Wrote
Speaker 1: about Mo claiborne last week about guys coming from Patel
Speaker 1: attendant tears, he and Jimmy Graham and Victor Cruze. But
Speaker 1: mot claiborne has the lowest completion percentage against of any
Speaker 1: quarter cornerback in the NFL. I guess it goes to
Speaker 1: show that some of these cornerbacks that are drafted high
Speaker 1: that we expect to shine right away. I mean, he
Speaker 1: went through a lot of off field stuff and on
Speaker 1: field stuff, and it took a long long time, right
Speaker 1: four or five years of it. They're getting in now.
Speaker 1: It's not with the timeline they thought. But this I
Speaker 1: mean the Bengals. The Bengals listen. They have to go
Speaker 1: play New England next. They are two and three, and
Speaker 1: I this is not a team that looks to me
Speaker 1: to have any of the chemistry of last year. And
Speaker 1: you've lost Marvin Jones, you've lost most a new you've
Speaker 1: lost Hugh Jackson calling plays. At some point these losses
Speaker 1: start to add up. Yeah, and it's got to be
Speaker 1: tough for Andy Dalton right now trying to make this
Speaker 1: work and thinking that he was going to be able
Speaker 1: to do that coming into this year and just not
Speaker 1: having those guys. They're not having Hugh there. It's so
Speaker 1: it's just really affecting them. And it's really sad kind
Speaker 1: of because last year I feel like that was their
Speaker 1: window to go far. Yeah. Yeah, I think Wesselman um
Speaker 1: West of Us could be in jeopardy this year. West
Speaker 1: the best of course for new listeners. Your annual holiday
Speaker 1: where you celebrate the Bengals first round defeat and well,
Speaker 1: it is an annual thing where the Bengals lose on
Speaker 1: the first weekend of the playoffs. That's true. It's a
Speaker 1: great holiday. Well, maybe we can replace it with something else,
Speaker 1: like maybe you can put your hoop earring back in.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I forgot about before the show even started.
Speaker 1: The biggest breaking news of the day not not injury related,
Speaker 1: no upsets, It was that West once had an earring
Speaker 1: a hoop area Hooper had an earring from about three
Speaker 1: to nine seven. I went to an interview at a
Speaker 1: law firm in Cincinnati, and the lady hired me and said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hire you, but let me give you some advice.
Speaker 1: Never ever wear that earring to an interview. Probably the
Speaker 1: best advice that you've ever received as a human. It
Speaker 1: was good. I wasn't much different person at that point
Speaker 1: in my life one, but they never really close up,
Speaker 1: so you could still still have a little hole area.
Speaker 1: I just can't even about Wesley, and of all people,
Speaker 1: who is not one too, I don't know, put on
Speaker 1: airs or be too you know, concerned about like, you know,
Speaker 1: looking cool or whatever. Just rocking the hoop area, and
Speaker 1: I love it. I was rocking a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: back then. This is a whole new West's. It's almost
Speaker 1: as in my Malman days, with my backwards hat and
Speaker 1: the earring and the and the Mike Tyson boots and
Speaker 1: shirt sleeves rolled up too much. We're gonna get some
Speaker 1: photoshop work from a couple of listeners. That all right,
Speaker 1: Let's move on to Denver and Atlanta. The high flying
Speaker 1: Falcons went into Denver to face the toughest defense they've
Speaker 1: seen thus far, and handed the Broncos their first loss
Speaker 1: of the year. West, is it time to buy the
Speaker 1: Falcons for real? Oh? I think it was time to
Speaker 1: buy the Falcons before this game. But if you needed
Speaker 1: convincing that they would beat a good defense, Finally they
Speaker 1: just beat the best defense in the NFL, and they
Speaker 1: did it by using Tevin Coleman in DeVante Freeman in
Speaker 1: space with miss mismatches against Broncos inside linebackers. And let's
Speaker 1: listen to West Durham of w z g C the game.
Speaker 1: On this one, Ryan Field three to the left, tight
Speaker 1: end and receiver to the right that takes a snap.
Speaker 1: Denver brings four. Ryan gonna cut it in the middle
Speaker 1: of the field. There is Coleman in the end zone,
Speaker 1: touched down at Lada. I'm a number two, stepped up
Speaker 1: and just slung that Jesse in there. Jesse, I like
Speaker 1: that in there. We don't pre listen to these, so
Speaker 1: that was a surprise to us. Jesse. Yeah, Ryan was
Speaker 1: throwing the Jesse around to his running backs. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have to start using it that way. Tevin Coleman is
Speaker 1: too fast for linebackers. You cannot cover him. And last
Speaker 1: year when you took Julio Jones out of the game,
Speaker 1: the whole offense sputtered. This year a different story. They
Speaker 1: have the best complimentary backfield in the NFL right now,
Speaker 1: over a thousand yards from scrimmage between the two of
Speaker 1: them this year already in five games. Freeman, it's you know,
Speaker 1: one of the the best, if not the best running
Speaker 1: backs in the league. I think on early downs he's
Speaker 1: been so good this year. And then to have told
Speaker 1: Tevin Coleman this is the second game like this where
Speaker 1: Coleman makes all of his bones as a receiver. If
Speaker 1: if you think about everyone talked about what they've added
Speaker 1: weapons and now they're spreading the ball around. I mean,
Speaker 1: the biggest weapon they added, Mohammed Sanu is on pace
Speaker 1: for about five hundred yards. They have really taken some
Speaker 1: guys other people didn't want, and they've taken the guys
Speaker 1: that are there mostly and made them an explosive offense
Speaker 1: even in Denver. Well, I think they go hand in
Speaker 1: hand that the new acquisition and picking up Taylor Gabriel
Speaker 1: and Aldrick Robinson and Austin Hooper. You can't concentrate on
Speaker 1: Tevin Corey. You have to use a linebacker on him.
Speaker 1: You can't use the safety or a cornerback because they
Speaker 1: have all these other weapons. Julio Jones after the game
Speaker 1: said he was doubled the whole game, and he said
Speaker 1: he's fine with that because that means guys are going
Speaker 1: to get their numbers. I'm still going to have those
Speaker 1: games where he explodes too, no matter what. Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: missed two downfield throws to him when Julio was open,
Speaker 1: and Chris Harris was kind of tugging on his jersey
Speaker 1: most of the game too. Yeah, they can use him
Speaker 1: now as a decoy because they have all these other guys.
Speaker 1: But I think two year two in Kyle Shannahan's system,
Speaker 1: we are kind of seeing them gel a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Plus with all of the new weapons, It's just it
Speaker 1: works so well for them. On the defensive side of things,
Speaker 1: Vic Beasley, that was a tie Sombrello issue for the Broncos. Ye,
Speaker 1: they're starting right tackle Donald Stephen Stevenson was out. Sombrelo,
Speaker 1: who may or may not have been injured and trying
Speaker 1: to fight through an injury. Looked like he went to
Speaker 1: crawl inside of his helmet in the third quarter when
Speaker 1: Beasley beat him for the third time and two of
Speaker 1: those were forced fumbles, and then they pulled Simbrello saim
Speaker 1: Michael Scofield out and it was the same result. Another
Speaker 1: stack for I mean, do you feel like obviously Atlanta
Speaker 1: and what we've seen four and one totally fine, reasonable
Speaker 1: record for them. They are one of the most exciting
Speaker 1: offenses you know of any team in one we've seen
Speaker 1: in a while. But they did face Paxton Lynch, who
Speaker 1: had sounded like talking to the game he was not
Speaker 1: This was the guy was not ready for action today.
Speaker 1: Every thing we had seen out of him in the
Speaker 1: preseason suggested that his physical tools might be able to
Speaker 1: overcome whatever he was missing fundamentally. Uh, today was a
Speaker 1: pretty dispiriting game for anybody who wanted him to um
Speaker 1: unseen Trevor Simeon at some point this season. He was
Speaker 1: inaccurate early, it was high and then what I think
Speaker 1: the most disturbing part was that with Vick Beasley crash
Speaker 1: in that pocket, he you started to see him see
Speaker 1: he was seeing ghosts in the pocket. He was taking
Speaker 1: off a little too early to run, and I think
Speaker 1: that was a little disturbing. But this is Trevor Simeon's offense. Well.
Speaker 1: I read something about Simeon's injury and he said after
Speaker 1: the game he felt like he was pretty close to plane.
Speaker 1: There was some thought in Denver they have a Thursday
Speaker 1: night game in San Diego, maybe if Simeon's gonna play
Speaker 1: one of those games, certainly you would wait for the
Speaker 1: second one. Maybe let's see how Paxton Lynch does. Let's
Speaker 1: not push the issue and we have Simeon there. We
Speaker 1: don't want him starting twice in five days. I would
Speaker 1: not be surprised if he's back starting in San Diego.
Speaker 1: As they tried to bounce back on Thursday night, the
Speaker 1: Broncos had much higher expectations for Paxiston Lynch against a
Speaker 1: bad Atlanta Falcons defense, and before the game, Gary Kubiak
Speaker 1: told their broadcast crew, We're gonna have the full playbook.
Speaker 1: We're gonna We're not gonna throw anything out of our offense.
Speaker 1: We're gonna run our offense with Paxton Lynch, and it
Speaker 1: just didn't work out well. It seems like they also
Speaker 1: had higher hopes going into the game for c. J.
Speaker 1: Anderson and DeVante Booker, and it seems like they had
Speaker 1: a very equal workload. I wonder if things are changing
Speaker 1: in that backfield a little bit. They wanted to run
Speaker 1: the ball. That was their goal to establish the run
Speaker 1: because they had struggled in the previous two games. They
Speaker 1: got behind so early that they kind of had to
Speaker 1: abandon in the running game. But they wanted to get
Speaker 1: Davante Booker more involved. Kubiak told the broadcast crew that
Speaker 1: they thought he had fresh legs and could inject life
Speaker 1: into the running games. So you might see a little
Speaker 1: bit more of him on Thursday night. Yeah, and Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: I guess he's still in the MVP discussion. Well, we
Speaker 1: don't need a weekly update, do we. It's week This
Speaker 1: is the week five on Matt Ryan and the m
Speaker 1: v P people are asking for this. Everybody wants to know. Yes,
Speaker 1: for everybody on periscope, that's for you, all right. If
Speaker 1: not for his last past attempt of the game, he
Speaker 1: would have been the first quarterback with a rating on
Speaker 1: that Broncos defense in thirty games. It's been it's been
Speaker 1: When was the last time they last what it was
Speaker 1: against the Bengals late last season. I mean this has
Speaker 1: been on. It's been a while since anyone's made any
Speaker 1: noise against this defense. Kyle Shanahan out Shanahan, Gary Kubiak,
Speaker 1: I was really surprised. Assistant Coach of the Year Kyl
Speaker 1: Shanahan still some candidates A little too early for me
Speaker 1: to decide. We saw what the Falcons did early last year.
Speaker 1: I want to see him do it all season long.
Speaker 1: But yes, he's gotta be up there marion Elli for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Yes, how about Mike? Who is Mike Shanahan
Speaker 1: rooting for in this game? You know he lives in
Speaker 1: Denver's got the ties there, Couby. I would imagine his
Speaker 1: son would think that the person that is his family,
Speaker 1: his child. I mean, as my mom always says, he
Speaker 1: can't trust anybody, not in your own mother. So maybe not,
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not afect. Mike Shanahan seems super trustworthy to me.
Speaker 1: I like that you share the same information with us
Speaker 1: that you do with your therapists. Yes, well this is
Speaker 1: basically a therapy session for me, so thank you guys.
Speaker 1: Let's move on to Pittsburgh and the Jets. Of Steelers
Speaker 1: carried over their dominant performance from last week to crush
Speaker 1: the Jets in a thirty one to thirteen route at
Speaker 1: Hines Field. Sammy Coates had a career high six catches
Speaker 1: for one thirty nine yards two scores to help send
Speaker 1: the Jets to one and four. So usually Dan has
Speaker 1: his dad call and leave him a voicemail about his
Speaker 1: analysis of the game, but since Dan is not here, uh,
Speaker 1: Dan's dad called me and left the voicemail. Yeah, me
Speaker 1: and Keith, we kind of we've been talking a little bit. Um.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to pick his brain about Dan and
Speaker 1: you know, learn a little bit more about where Dan
Speaker 1: came from. So so now have expected direction. Yes, the
Speaker 1: analysis of Keith Kansas on the Jets. His name is Keith.
Speaker 1: His dad's dad Bill. Doubt about it. He's a big
Speaker 1: Jets fan. What is he going to say? Will happen
Speaker 1: game today? What is he going to will happen game today?
Speaker 1: Week five? Another terrible defensive effort by the Jets defense.
Speaker 1: The front four put absolutely no pressure on Big Ben
Speaker 1: and he torched the Jet defense where the backfield once
Speaker 1: again mysteriously when he was not covering anybody that were
Speaker 1: wide open. Big play I thought in the game, which
Speaker 1: is still a mystery to me, is the seven thirty
Speaker 1: two left and fourth and one bulls sized the punt?
Speaker 1: I have to question that is then the Jets aren't
Speaker 1: bad enough to be embarrassing, not good enough to be interesting.
Speaker 1: It just exists to you. Next year you're gonna go
Speaker 1: get through a little worried about Dan. Yeah, it's Keith.
Speaker 1: I think that their um, their tone appropriately sums up
Speaker 1: you know the game that I was watching out of
Speaker 1: the corner of my eye as well, and they nailed it.
Speaker 1: That that punt. That decision to go for the punt
Speaker 1: there was certainly maddening to Jets fans and and just
Speaker 1: as much so was the fact that New York has
Speaker 1: to so overcompensate for it's you know, tendency to get
Speaker 1: burnt deep, that big pockets of space were open underneath
Speaker 1: and Big Ben. You know, when you give that to
Speaker 1: Big Ben, we know what's gonna happen. He used Levy
Speaker 1: on Belly, used other receivers just to kind of you know,
Speaker 1: throw short, some shorter and intermediate passes that picked up
Speaker 1: big real estate. And when that wasn't happening, Sammy Coates,
Speaker 1: who had some bad drops in this game, also had
Speaker 1: some huge plays, including a big touchdown out of the
Speaker 1: gate that you know, the Jets were in this thing
Speaker 1: and it got away from them towards the end because
Speaker 1: I think they just couldn't hang. This is not the
Speaker 1: Jets offensive last season. The loss of Eric Decker stings well.
Speaker 1: They've had no shows in three straight second halfs where
Speaker 1: they've just been blown out of the water. And they
Speaker 1: basically haven't scored on offense, and you have a defensive
Speaker 1: coach who wants to coach to a defense that's better
Speaker 1: in his head, I think than it really is on paper.
Speaker 1: I mean, they punted. It wasn't just that one punt
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. They punted five different times on
Speaker 1: fourth and short during this game. Now, some of those
Speaker 1: are situations where it would be very surprising if you
Speaker 1: go for it, But it's just they don't have confidence
Speaker 1: I don't think in their offensive line, um, you know,
Speaker 1: or their offense in general to go for it in
Speaker 1: those situations. The Jets defense is the bizarro Broncos. They
Speaker 1: have allowed a one passer radying in every game this year. Well,
Speaker 1: note that they did as advertised, you know, they clamped
Speaker 1: down on the run to some degree, but that short
Speaker 1: passing game was the run. I mean, Levi on Bell
Speaker 1: had nine catches for eighty eight yards. It was just
Speaker 1: easy to kind of figure out how to move the
Speaker 1: ball on New York as the game went on with Sammy,
Speaker 1: coach said after the game that his drops were he
Speaker 1: had his hand was numb because cut in cut. He
Speaker 1: was wearing big gloves, so he was able to have
Speaker 1: this monster day because that the Steelers deep threat opposite
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown with Levi on Bell underneath has to be
Speaker 1: one of the cushiest jobs in the world, as Martavis
Speaker 1: Brant found out last year with Big Ben throwing accurate
Speaker 1: downfield strikes all the time. But those guys have those
Speaker 1: two guys have special speed. I mean Sammy Coats when
Speaker 1: he is flying up the sideline, maybe he's a one
Speaker 1: trick pony like Tory Smith used to, but who cares.
Speaker 1: That's what they need is one trick to be when
Speaker 1: he when he flew past Marcus Peters for instance, last week,
Speaker 1: it's like bam. I mean, he makes Peters look slow
Speaker 1: and Peters affect the same thing. They even get big
Speaker 1: plays out of Darius Hey. We're big. Yes, that's one
Speaker 1: of the most surprising things about it. It's a cushy
Speaker 1: job being the deep threat to the Steelers. Connor or
Speaker 1: Uh in the rankings, he said that the Steelers are
Speaker 1: the best team in the league after this performance doesn't
Speaker 1: move them at all for you guys, sure, I mean
Speaker 1: they're right in there. They were. I think that they
Speaker 1: were like my third or four team to begin with
Speaker 1: that there, I don't think they are better football team
Speaker 1: than the New England Patriots because we'll still see that
Speaker 1: um implode occasionally, but peaks Steelers when they're playing as
Speaker 1: well as they can. We've I've we've all rid said
Speaker 1: this thing over and over. If the Steelers got hot
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, they could beat anyone. They nearly beat
Speaker 1: Denver last year without Antonio Brown. Connor thinks they have
Speaker 1: a higher ceiling than the Patriots because of their star power.
Speaker 1: I would argue the other way. The Patriots have a harder,
Speaker 1: higher ceiling because of their own star power. But they're
Speaker 1: They're right there, and the Stea and the Seahawks are
Speaker 1: right there for me too so far this season. But
Speaker 1: why about the Broncos with Simeon and and I think
Speaker 1: the Broncos are right there too. I think the Steeler
Speaker 1: we'll see. I want to see the Steelers shut down
Speaker 1: a good offense that Eagles game. Maybe it was just
Speaker 1: an anomaly, but they don't have a great pass rush
Speaker 1: this year. But they certainly have clamped down the last
Speaker 1: two weeks and have some things working for them. They're
Speaker 1: a little healthier now. Their best defensive player get a
Speaker 1: hamstring injury. Cameron Heyward and Ryan Shays has been battling
Speaker 1: a knee injury too, so those injuries could be huge
Speaker 1: for them. Yeah, it's brutal though for the Jets when
Speaker 1: you look at chan Gailey and what he had last
Speaker 1: year and all the pieces really seemed to fit together,
Speaker 1: and then all off season everybody all they wanted was
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick and now he's here and it's just not
Speaker 1: at And one of the reasons that I think, you know,
Speaker 1: Dan is also upset about the Jets is that you
Speaker 1: needed to get that win in Week one and home
Speaker 1: against the Bengals, and you needed to just knock off,
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of these other teams. Now you've
Speaker 1: lost to the Seahawks and Steelers, you have the Cardinals
Speaker 1: and Ravens next, and it doesn't really ease up at
Speaker 1: the back end of the schedule either. So I don't
Speaker 1: know how they claim you're in the Hall, and I
Speaker 1: think it's he he said, we're not that interesting. I
Speaker 1: think part of it is like you have Ryan Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: as your quarterback, Matt Forties as you're running back. You know,
Speaker 1: your stars on the defensive line. Leonard Williams is exciting,
Speaker 1: but Wilkerson and is making a huge impact this year.
Speaker 1: I think it's just like, what can we get excited about?
Speaker 1: This isn't a fun team to watch right now. This
Speaker 1: might be the end of reevs with the Jets, and
Speaker 1: we saw what they could be that Thursday night game.
Speaker 1: They that offense was so much fun to watch. The
Speaker 1: Decker is gone and we don't know when we'll see
Speaker 1: him again. Did you guys think that was one of
Speaker 1: the weirdest postgame quotes of the year? Brandon Marshall, this
Speaker 1: is the first perfect position for us. He says, it's
Speaker 1: weird because there weren't were one and four. The media
Speaker 1: will get all over us, but this is the perfect
Speaker 1: position for It's it's a weird quote, but I think
Speaker 1: that he's he's like part media person, part athlete. But
Speaker 1: athletes have to think this way. When you get down,
Speaker 1: you have to think about this is an opportunity to
Speaker 1: climb out and it's not. You're not gonna get the
Speaker 1: most realistic chat. It was almost too choreographed, like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the guy that's positive after a loss.
Speaker 1: I mean, there literally is a moment if you see
Speaker 1: the video when he says we're gonna turn this thing around.
Speaker 1: And he goes whoa, and he starts clapping and stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's like, all right, yeah. I think his teammates
Speaker 1: probably think that way too, like this is a little
Speaker 1: bit of false bravado here and this guy, that guy
Speaker 1: has worked his way out of how many locker rooms
Speaker 1: in around the league. Maybe he's trying to be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we're going to be the underdogs here and we're gonna
Speaker 1: be the comeback kids that everybody roots for. And I
Speaker 1: don't know whatever, but little scripted we'll see it sounds
Speaker 1: I am buying in. Let's move to the Eagles. The
Speaker 1: Eagles and Carson rookie Carson Wentz tried to stay perfect
Speaker 1: as they traveled to Detroit for the Jim Schwartz revenge game. Sligh, though,
Speaker 1: had other plans, forcing it too pivotal turnovers in a
Speaker 1: one point come from behind when for the Lions West.
Speaker 1: That was a crushing interception that Carson Wentz through at
Speaker 1: the end of that game, not least of which because
Speaker 1: it was a perfect throw, it was a great pin
Speaker 1: point his receiver should have made the play instead of
Speaker 1: allowing the defensive back to make the play. It was
Speaker 1: an awesome throw and Darius like deserves credit for making
Speaker 1: the play because Nelson Aghilor just let him have it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this game it When I was watching it, Carson wentz,
Speaker 1: I kept thinking the interception is going to come. It
Speaker 1: has to come at some point. So in a way,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that he threw it, and it's awful. It's
Speaker 1: sort of like a Brandon Marshall thing, like maybe this
Speaker 1: was the best thing that could have happened for them,
Speaker 1: Like it came at a really bad time. They lost
Speaker 1: the game because of it. But now he's ripped off
Speaker 1: the band aid and you know he can move on.
Speaker 1: I think, I mean it's this had This is Carson
Speaker 1: went through that pick. But he also is the reason
Speaker 1: that they've been in all these games. He's been a
Speaker 1: nearly perfect quarterback for what he was from a rookie.
Speaker 1: He was dynamite again, you know the pick aside, he
Speaker 1: was dynamite. So every time I looked up, they were dropping. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he is not high on that list. They lost in
Speaker 1: spite of him, and you we have not had a
Speaker 1: chance to talk to you about this, but this is
Speaker 1: the quarterback that in my you know, when I want
Speaker 1: to enter into a darker place. It should be Cleveland's quarterback,
Speaker 1: but he's yours, and it's an Also, that's a that's
Speaker 1: a roughed up fan base. So I'm not unhappy that
Speaker 1: happened to the Eagles of any team. But how are
Speaker 1: you got to be feeling a little bit less doom
Speaker 1: and gloom now that this, you know, big ball of
Speaker 1: sunshines come into your life to save the city of
Speaker 1: brotherly love. It's a little weird and I'm not sure
Speaker 1: I can even trust. I don't trust it. I don't
Speaker 1: trust a lot of things, but you trust any one
Speaker 1: of us. I trust you guys, you guys. I trust um.
Speaker 1: But I it's so hard to be like, Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: look he's the guy. It's hard to be a positive
Speaker 1: person probably in general, but it's definitely hard to be
Speaker 1: to buy in completely with him. But he looks really
Speaker 1: and it's it's true. And after the first two games
Speaker 1: I couldn't really buy in just because of the opponents.
Speaker 1: But after the Pittsburgh game, I was like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is this is not bad. This is pretty good. Um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's good. On the other side of things, though,
Speaker 1: Darius Slay, he had such a great game for the Lions.
Speaker 1: He basically he forced the fumble that Ryan Matthews had
Speaker 1: and then he had that game changing interception, So huge
Speaker 1: game for him. He came up big when the lines
Speaker 1: offense went in the tank. I believe they had seventeen
Speaker 1: first downs in the first hip and only two in
Speaker 1: the second half. And you could tell the Jim Bob
Speaker 1: Couter had a good game plan. He had a lot
Speaker 1: of misdirection plays that he was fulling Eagles defense. But
Speaker 1: when those plays ran out, the Eagles defense came back
Speaker 1: and had a big second half. But credit Stafford for
Speaker 1: the game winning field goal drive and Theo Riddick was
Speaker 1: huge in this game. Is receiving ability. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is why they gave Slay a huge contract. He's a
Speaker 1: veteran and he's a veteran on a defense that has
Speaker 1: lost their veteran ziggy Anza in DeAndre Levy and the
Speaker 1: Lions there two and three. That's about what they should
Speaker 1: be to me. They haven't been a terrible team this year,
Speaker 1: especially considering the bad injury luck, and it's a guy
Speaker 1: with a monster deal kind of it's great to see
Speaker 1: like stepping up and go and go win a game. Buddy,
Speaker 1: and I was really surprised how the Lions came right
Speaker 1: out and marched right down the field for that for
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it was his first three drives
Speaker 1: they scored touchdowns with Matt Stafford. So I was surprised
Speaker 1: that the Eagles defense wasn't able to hold them. More.
Speaker 1: I thought that Jim Schwortz would have a couple more
Speaker 1: tricks up a sleeve, but it turned out the sleep
Speaker 1: opposite exactly. So that's how, Yes, he's got all the
Speaker 1: tricks of his sleep. No one should be surprised though.
Speaker 1: Stafford up the old Cooter. Stafford has been Stafford very
Speaker 1: very good this year. I know he didn't have a
Speaker 1: great week last week, but he was not as bad
Speaker 1: as I expected after I watched that game. To me,
Speaker 1: he is there with the He's not in the top
Speaker 1: you know, four or five quarterbacks in the league right now,
Speaker 1: but he's right after that. And in terms of expecting
Speaker 1: him to play well every week, only took like, you know,
Speaker 1: seven plus years, but that he's now, it's happened. So back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: exciting Golden Tate too. He showed up today. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: know for thirty nine. I mean, let's not get too
Speaker 1: carried away. Well he had the game winning score. Well
Speaker 1: he didn't know he set up winning score. He had
Speaker 1: a huge catch to set it up. So look, I've
Speaker 1: been waiting for him to come out and to stop
Speaker 1: being invisible in these games. So maybe this is the
Speaker 1: start of you've been waiting for that, Like Mark has
Speaker 1: been waiting for Zach Zenner to show back up for
Speaker 1: a few years, and here he was. It seven carries
Speaker 1: for nine's on the fail he's playing. It's not exactly
Speaker 1: what I was envisioning two summers ago. A couple of passes, caught,
Speaker 1: a couple of passes. All right, let's go to San Diego.
Speaker 1: The Chargers game giveaway. It continues. It happened again. I
Speaker 1: can't believe this one this week. It wasn't just in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter though. San Diego had a four nineteen
Speaker 1: lead with four minutes left in the third quarter, and
Speaker 1: then Melvin Gordon fumbled and the Raiders converted to the points,
Speaker 1: leading to a thirty thirty one loss for the Chargers.
Speaker 1: They moved to one and four, their winless in the division.
Speaker 1: Greg The Chargers had four turnovers in this game. Once again,
Speaker 1: they are the best you could possibly be as a
Speaker 1: one in four team, but they also know how to
Speaker 1: lose in any situation. And one of the indelible moments
Speaker 1: really of this entire season for me is them dropping
Speaker 1: the whole The holder dropped the few old goal snap
Speaker 1: that would have tied the game with just a few
Speaker 1: minutes left. He can't handle it. He tries to pick
Speaker 1: it up. It's rolling away and they cut to the
Speaker 1: sideline and it's the Philip Rivers. And I'm not a
Speaker 1: professional lip reader, but plenty of other people read it
Speaker 1: the same way. And he said, we're the bad news Bears. Man.
Speaker 1: I saw him freaking out and he said that was
Speaker 1: at one of his at one of his receivers. I mean,
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers was awesome in this game, they were they
Speaker 1: had been delivered what had looked like a knockout punch.
Speaker 1: They were up nine midway through the third suddenly where
Speaker 1: they were down ten and they were driving there to
Speaker 1: try to win the game. It looked like they had
Speaker 1: really fought back, and then for that to happen is unbelievable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we were on the Couch the Couch Show, which
Speaker 1: you came on today. It was great, but we were
Speaker 1: watching this game, and when it happened in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't believe the Chargers are going
Speaker 1: to lose this game. And everybody was saying, oh, come on,
Speaker 1: there's so much time laughed, and I'm like, no, this
Speaker 1: is this is what they do now, and I feel
Speaker 1: like it's sort of effecting them mentally. I was just
Speaker 1: gonna say the same thing that it's you get to
Speaker 1: a tipping point where when you lose this many games
Speaker 1: this way, it's not a permanent identity, but it's like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, if it starts to creep in game
Speaker 1: after game, Europe almost there's got to be certain aspects
Speaker 1: of the rock expecting it to happen exactly. I mean,
Speaker 1: these are just young kids. They're human beings, and even
Speaker 1: if you're the coaching staff, it's like how it's on
Speaker 1: the coaching staff too to find ways to stop this
Speaker 1: from happening. But it's it's it's a total organizational implosion.
Speaker 1: Four out of five games. Yeah, and just like last year,
Speaker 1: I mean there haven't there weren't any key guys that
Speaker 1: went down in this game, but the injuries this season,
Speaker 1: it's the same narrative as last year with the injuries
Speaker 1: and they're out there playing without Jason Verrette and Brandon
Speaker 1: Flowers in this not to mention, you know, everyone else
Speaker 1: they've lost this year, like Keenan Allen and Philip Rivers,
Speaker 1: deserves much better than this they have. Last year, it
Speaker 1: was the offensive lineman who would go down one a game.
Speaker 1: This year, you take away and Malcolm Floyd to begin
Speaker 1: the year, Stevie Johnson, Danny Wood had Keenan Allen. He's
Speaker 1: thrown to Tyrelle Williams, Travis, Benjamin Hunter, Henry none of
Speaker 1: him was on the team last year. And they're one
Speaker 1: of four teams this year that have scored twenty points
Speaker 1: in every game. I mean they they've led with two
Speaker 1: minutes left in every game until this one, which they
Speaker 1: easily should they should have tied. It was a chip
Speaker 1: shot field goal and they had a second. The thing
Speaker 1: is the Chargers they set up these mistakes because they
Speaker 1: had a second and one before that field goal, and
Speaker 1: they didn't convert a second and one to keep the
Speaker 1: game going and try to win it. And then you
Speaker 1: kicked the field goal and it all goes wrong. I
Speaker 1: mean they did. I I cannot stand because this happens
Speaker 1: on this podcast and it happens and write ups. Hey,
Speaker 1: I know your team is like a hot mess circling
Speaker 1: towards Earth, but there is a bright spot for you
Speaker 1: to cling to in mid October as everything is burning up.
Speaker 1: But they got Joey Bosa back and he looked good today.
Speaker 1: I think, right, Yeah, you had two sacks, a couple
Speaker 1: of pressures, three tackles for losses total, a few run stops.
Speaker 1: He only played twenty seven snaps he out of eighty one,
Speaker 1: so they were bringing him in slowly. He made an
Speaker 1: incredible impact for those twenty seven snaps. If he keeps
Speaker 1: that up the pace up for those twenty seven snaps,
Speaker 1: he will be the greatest defensive player in NFL. He
Speaker 1: goes to my Odell Beckham rookie year theory, where if
Speaker 1: you skip a big bunch of work early in the year,
Speaker 1: if everyone wins in the end and all of us
Speaker 1: should probably take multiple weeks off, that would be great.
Speaker 1: I think we can get behind that. I'm with that.
Speaker 1: We'll skip July, August, you know, September and parts of
Speaker 1: October is what I'm lobbing for. Before we move on,
Speaker 1: we should give some credit to the four and one
Speaker 1: team of a t L nominee. Ok, here's what the
Speaker 1: Raiders do out They make pretty plays which should be considered.
Speaker 1: I mean, every week there's something that gets you out
Speaker 1: of your seat, and in this week, for me, it
Speaker 1: was a third down conversion by Michael Crabtree. Just the
Speaker 1: incredible show of hands. Oh yeah, that he just grabbed
Speaker 1: it right and then his pat and his feet on
Speaker 1: the sideline, and the very next play they hit a
Speaker 1: sixty four yard touchdown to Mary Cooper. They would have
Speaker 1: and that that to me is that team. You know,
Speaker 1: those two are so tough to to. That crab Tree
Speaker 1: catch won't make all the watch every touchdown from Week
Speaker 1: five highlight reels, but it was probably the best catch
Speaker 1: of the day in many ways for what it's set
Speaker 1: up to. Yeah, their defense is getting a little more
Speaker 1: fun to watch too, with Karl Joseph at safety, who's
Speaker 1: already one of the most fun safeties to watch in
Speaker 1: the Yeah, I'm glad that's finally getting together because that
Speaker 1: was brutal the first couple of weeks. Mary Cooper that touchdown,
Speaker 1: I can't believe that was his first of the year.
Speaker 1: So although Philip Rivers, you know, did average twelve yards
Speaker 1: a throw today against that secondary details, let's say, and
Speaker 1: they got some things to work details. Okay, let's move on.
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Speaker 1: how about the Ravens. They jumped out to an early lead,
Speaker 1: but they were attacked by all sorts of injuries in
Speaker 1: this game. But Chard Perriman almost got them the win,
Speaker 1: but his twenty three yard touchdown was reversed with thirty
Speaker 1: seconds left in the game, saving a six ten win
Speaker 1: for the Redskins. West, you did this game? What happened?
Speaker 1: Did Joe Flacco's offense? The Ravens blew this game in
Speaker 1: so many different ways. And I'm sure anybody who was
Speaker 1: reading my game recap and was a Redskins fan was like,
Speaker 1: why didn't you give us any credit? Because the Ravens
Speaker 1: blew the game in every way possible, and the Redskins
Speaker 1: there wasn't that much noteworthy. They tried to give it away.
Speaker 1: Even late in the game. Kirk Cousins, who had been
Speaker 1: playing pretty well in the second half, throws an interception
Speaker 1: deep in his own territory. C J. Mosley, Ravens linebacker,
Speaker 1: makes an athletic play on it, brings it all the
Speaker 1: way back just as he's reaching through for the pylon,
Speaker 1: fumbles it out the back of the end zone. And
Speaker 1: because it's a bizarre, weird NFL rule, the Redskins immediately
Speaker 1: get the ball on a touchback. The Ravens don't get
Speaker 1: the ball anywhere near the end zone. Let's let's change
Speaker 1: that rule. Let's we'll talk about this game a lot
Speaker 1: more in a minute. Let's change that rule. That's the
Speaker 1: worst rule we got the they got them to raise
Speaker 1: the uprights. Eventually, we can change that rule. Wouldn't make
Speaker 1: more sense to give the ball to the fumbling team. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 1: how do you even come up with that rule? It
Speaker 1: seems bizarre like someone came up with it seventy years
Speaker 1: ago and nobody thought about it. Since it seems like
Speaker 1: they didn't make up any rule and then that one's
Speaker 1: happened in the game and they just made that up
Speaker 1: at the time that you don't know that that seems
Speaker 1: credible to see what happened. The Ravens jumped out with
Speaker 1: an touchdown on their opening drive. They looked like they
Speaker 1: were in control of the game. Steve Smith went down
Speaker 1: with an ankle injury in the first order, and then
Speaker 1: their offensive line, which is already decimated by injuries. Marshal
Speaker 1: Yanda had to kick out the tackle and the the
Speaker 1: inside the guards were getting worked over. I don't think
Speaker 1: Mark Trustman trusted his offensive line to block for downfield throws,
Speaker 1: so the man coverage was sitting on all the short
Speaker 1: routes and the offense just win the tank the rest
Speaker 1: of the way. On the same week that Joe Flacco
Speaker 1: basically complained that they don't throw the ball deep enough.
Speaker 1: Their longest play was fifteen yards. They well guess you
Speaker 1: had the twenty three yard would have been touchdown to Pairman.
Speaker 1: But there was also another deep ball to Pairman which
Speaker 1: he just barely missed it, and that would have been
Speaker 1: good to set them up on like the two foot
Speaker 1: line right in front of the end zone. But all
Speaker 1: these plays that they could have made and didn't. They
Speaker 1: had a fake field goal that backfired on them, and
Speaker 1: the wind was a factor. It pushed Dustin Dustin Hopkins
Speaker 1: extra point off and uh In affected field goal decisions
Speaker 1: throughout right. They went for a fake field goal, which
Speaker 1: they probably the Ravens that is because Justin Tucker is
Speaker 1: the most reliable kicker in the league. They would have
Speaker 1: gone for the kick if instead of the fake, if
Speaker 1: not for the win factor. Are you concerned about the
Speaker 1: Ravens getting into games where I understand what happens today,
Speaker 1: where if they get into shootouts, do they have the
Speaker 1: kind of attack that can hang with teams in that situation?
Speaker 1: Is Steve Smith healthy? Does Mark Trustman bury his nose
Speaker 1: in the playbook and refuse to see the Terence West
Speaker 1: is really eight or nine yards of carry? Every Mark
Speaker 1: Trustman was the Ravens special issue. Then he was their
Speaker 1: worst enemy. Today. Terence West, he's going off in the
Speaker 1: first half. In the first quarter, he's got sixty yards
Speaker 1: on five carries. The second quarter, eight of the ten
Speaker 1: plays are passes. It sounds like a repeat from Mark
Speaker 1: trustman complaints when he was the coach of the Bears. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a legit valid complaint. Even in the
Speaker 1: second half that it was a close gaming, you're still
Speaker 1: ignoring Terence West while he's averaging five or six yards
Speaker 1: per carrying stead of eight or nine. It's against the
Speaker 1: Redskins defense that he probably could have run twice as
Speaker 1: hot garbage Redskins run defense, and Terence West is blowing
Speaker 1: right through it. It was bizarre for it. A little
Speaker 1: fantasy um advice here. Don't worry about Kenneth Dixon. Not
Speaker 1: gonna not gonna be an issue. I would say not
Speaker 1: for the month of October. He looked slow and he
Speaker 1: looked hesitant, and Terence West looks streamlined. Well. They said
Speaker 1: he had a huge brace on or something to Dixon.
Speaker 1: He only had three carries for minus one yards, so
Speaker 1: maybe he had the knee brace. I didn't notice it,
Speaker 1: but he did look slow and he looked hesitant. He
Speaker 1: didn't look like he trusted the knee quite yet. We
Speaker 1: should give the Redskins some credit, maybe not just for
Speaker 1: this week, but they were owing to there, you know,
Speaker 1: two and oh on the road. Now they're they've won
Speaker 1: three straight games. They've had a lot of injuries and saying,
Speaker 1: don't give him. I'm just saying I didn't expect them
Speaker 1: to be back here. A few teams that we quickly
Speaker 1: didn't feel too good about, like the Bills and the Redskins.
Speaker 1: There right back about where you'd expect him to be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. Um, in the interest of full disclosure here,
Speaker 1: I've had a lot of Red Bull since I was
Speaker 1: on the couch all day. I don't even drink red Bull. Um,
Speaker 1: are you crashing right now? No? I think I'm like, yes, so, yeah,
Speaker 1: I have no soul inside. I've kind of like just
Speaker 1: a shell of a person at this been replaced by
Speaker 1: an energy drink. Only one time in my life have
Speaker 1: I had Red Bull without alcohol in it. And it
Speaker 1: was before a softball tournament and I was so jittery
Speaker 1: at short stop that I couldn't even feel the ball.
Speaker 1: My heart now, I never drank Red Bull again after that.
Speaker 1: I don't like being not being in control of my nerves.
Speaker 1: How many times have you had it with alcohol? Give
Speaker 1: me an over under of fifty. I mean, yeager bombs
Speaker 1: were the go to drink a huck a Poo's on
Speaker 1: some Saturday night, So roughly six or seven hundred times.
Speaker 1: I mean just the smell of yeager. I never bought one.
Speaker 1: It was like someone one of the locals would buy
Speaker 1: you a drink and you kind of felt bad, so
Speaker 1: you had to drink. I'm more of a hard drugs guy,
Speaker 1: cold medicine, better drill. Yeah, me too. Okay. How about
Speaker 1: the Vikings Mark Sessler, this team, they're perfect now through
Speaker 1: five games, a thirty one thirteen beat up on the Texans. Here.
Speaker 1: What did you see in this game? That defense looks
Speaker 1: so good. Yeah, I saw a team and it reminds
Speaker 1: me a little bit of what happened in Dallas. From
Speaker 1: the very first minute, Minnesota came out and completely imposed
Speaker 1: the will on a Houston Texans team that somehow has
Speaker 1: shown no ability to play against premier competition. Again, it
Speaker 1: was an absolute flattening. Forget the final score of thirteen
Speaker 1: points for the Texans. It came in deep garbage time,
Speaker 1: two straight drives for the Vikings offense right out of
Speaker 1: the gate to eight play touchdown marches. It got started
Speaker 1: with this Las sid second Andy Leven from the Texans,
Speaker 1: thirty six Brattford passing rights. Whoa well, touchdowns, that's my boy.
Speaker 1: Paul Allen from KA fan in Minnesota, not the Seattle
Speaker 1: Seahawks owner, but a capable play by play telecaster who
Speaker 1: took it home right there. I'll tell you something else.
Speaker 1: This Adam Feeling, who I was crowing about in the office.
Speaker 1: I know people don't know he's not Randy Moss. It's like,
Speaker 1: I get it. You know what. You don't have that back,
Speaker 1: you don't have stuff. I know that. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you don't have Stefan digs and you're in it. You're
Speaker 1: in an offense that doesn't have the quarterback in the
Speaker 1: running back you went into the season. Who said anything
Speaker 1: bad about Adam? Adam, all you can ask for is
Speaker 1: a player when people are out to step in and
Speaker 1: fill the gap the best you can. Seven catches a
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty seven yards. He found a way to
Speaker 1: get into spaces between Houston secondary. Houston's defense got absolutely
Speaker 1: outmanned and outpowered. And we haven't even gotten to the
Speaker 1: best part of this game. Minnesota's defense, the super Bowl defense.
Speaker 1: We've been talking about this since the summer. They have
Speaker 1: a super Bowl level head coach and Mike Zimmer, and
Speaker 1: they took brock Osweiler the seventy two million dollar thirty
Speaker 1: seven million and guarantees quarterback and made him look like
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the league. Today, they shredded him.
Speaker 1: I would be very concerned for Texans fans who are
Speaker 1: watching brock Oswiler go out and look absolutely lost at
Speaker 1: sea while four or five rookie quarterbacks look more capable
Speaker 1: and ready for game action than than he does. In
Speaker 1: this offense. Will Fuller and DeAndre Hopkins were shut out
Speaker 1: in the first half, and anything you see in a
Speaker 1: box score that they have it happened late in the
Speaker 1: game when nothing mattered. This game was over by the second,
Speaker 1: by the third quarter. Fire in your eyes. Listen. I
Speaker 1: don't want to hear any garbage about where where are
Speaker 1: we with the Vikings. I don't care where we are
Speaker 1: as a group. This team cares where they are, and
Speaker 1: they said it from the minute that they lost Teddy Bridgewater.
Speaker 1: We're not giving up, and they haven't shown any any
Speaker 1: hint of that. I always know that it's going to
Speaker 1: be good when Sessler starts with his hands. Well, just
Speaker 1: that it is that kind of a team where it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter what happens. Someone else comes in and Phil
Speaker 1: does the job. A lot of I'd say three quarters
Speaker 1: of the league don't have that dynamic on any level.
Speaker 1: They lose someone that position is an absolute weekend issue
Speaker 1: for the rest of the season. How about Sam Bradford
Speaker 1: doing this today without Stefon Diggs and so, I mean
Speaker 1: even Cordarrel Patterson. They haven't had a running game with
Speaker 1: that tackles haven't played well. It's incredible. I mean, it
Speaker 1: gets it gets Mark excited, It gets Paul Allen so excited.
Speaker 1: He made some fake argument about people calling the Texans
Speaker 1: the best secondary in the league. Who caused the Texans
Speaker 1: that that's number one? But every game it's a different
Speaker 1: guy who's Sam Bradford is making look like a star.
Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs really is a good receiver, Adam feelings a
Speaker 1: special team. Charles Johnson last week had disappeared until he
Speaker 1: catches two deep balls. Kyle Rudolphs having the best year
Speaker 1: of his career. Sam Bradford's an upgrade on Teddy Bridge.
Speaker 1: You know, Cordarrel Patterson finally looks like too. I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm amazing time. The fact that Sam Bradford,
Speaker 1: when paired with North Turner is looks better than Teddy
Speaker 1: Bridgewater is making this offense work. Sometimes it's best not
Speaker 1: to think too deeply about And he's also just never
Speaker 1: had this kind of a team around him, because the
Speaker 1: Eagles team, no matter what they are on defense this
Speaker 1: year where mess around Sam Bradford the last two seasons.
Speaker 1: And I mean it's I'm not saying any quarterback could
Speaker 1: do this, that's not the case. But this defense sets
Speaker 1: the table up for you. Very nice people always talking
Speaker 1: about weapons. Having the best defense in the league. That's
Speaker 1: a weapon. Weapon. It's gonna get people off your back.
Speaker 1: It's gonna get you the ball back, it's gonna it's
Speaker 1: gonna make you look good on a day they had
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty yards. You can dominate because he's
Speaker 1: making the plays when it counts. And that's the opposite
Speaker 1: of Oswahler, who one in thirteen one of thirteen on
Speaker 1: first on third downs. The the Texans today, we're only
Speaker 1: five games this all. Their offense looks so dysfunctional games
Speaker 1: not involved at all. But they're worse than they were
Speaker 1: with Brian Hoyer. And it's not particularly particularly close. They've
Speaker 1: they've been disjoined it all year. There. They have a
Speaker 1: couple big plays every game and he makes some impressive throws,
Speaker 1: but they're not moving the ball. They're a team that
Speaker 1: it's a boomer bust offense. And for nine eight, nine,
Speaker 1: ten drives a game, they're going three, four, five and out.
Speaker 1: Who got paid broadcostwar and Lamar Miller? Yeah, Brock Lamar
Speaker 1: Miller has been one of the least effective starting running
Speaker 1: backs in the NFL this year. And brock Oswaller, like
Speaker 1: Greg said, not even an upgrade on Brian Hoyer. No,
Speaker 1: and he and I think that they brock Oswaller is
Speaker 1: still young enough where he doesn't have the resume and
Speaker 1: the hundreds of starts to look back on and say,
Speaker 1: I know I can dig myself out of this. They
Speaker 1: got in his head. It's not the first quarterback that
Speaker 1: Minnesota's they s Aaron Rodgers looked bad, They made everyone
Speaker 1: look bad. This isn't the first defense to get in
Speaker 1: brock Oswaller's head either. No, but this, this is not.
Speaker 1: This is the best defense right now that he will
Speaker 1: face all season. He's the best defense in the NFL?
Speaker 1: Have they me? They are? I don't care watching the
Speaker 1: stats are smart? Yeah, I think I think Listen, this
Speaker 1: could change in a couple of weeks. But Denver's Denver
Speaker 1: has shown consistency that we have not seen Minnesota do this. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, as long as Denver has for these five weeks. No,
Speaker 1: but we'll actually you know, they've won eight straight regular
Speaker 1: season games, that's the most in the league. And go ahead,
Speaker 1: go find your weaknesses, but they're not there. In my book,
Speaker 1: this is a team well and the Texans are in
Speaker 1: a similar spot where I think they need their defense
Speaker 1: to be truly dominant to be a real contender. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're going to be in the mix in the NFC South.
Speaker 1: It's a bad division. And I don't know, I have
Speaker 1: to watch this one closer. Last week, they certainly weren't
Speaker 1: a dominant looking defense, uh you know in that in
Speaker 1: that game for the Texans in their win. Clowney hasn't
Speaker 1: really shown up this year. It looks like by the
Speaker 1: box score he had a nice day today, but he's
Speaker 1: been very quiet after. You know, they at pressure on Bradford.
Speaker 1: They hit Bradford, but a lot of it just seemed,
Speaker 1: you know, when you're down early, a lot of it
Speaker 1: just came when it didn't really change the game. We're
Speaker 1: going almost a full sixteen game season on Sam Bradford. Now,
Speaker 1: since November one of last season, he's completed his passes
Speaker 1: sixteen to four touchdown to interception ratio and a one
Speaker 1: oh one point two pass A radio to talk more
Speaker 1: on Tuesday to where we going here? L A. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go to the Bills and the Rams. I think
Speaker 1: this was Dan's lock of the week. Was it that
Speaker 1: the Bills? Because he's a certified expert. I think that's right.
Speaker 1: I think Dan picked Buffalo to win this that did
Speaker 1: not happen. And Rex Ryan he now led his team
Speaker 1: to a win. Lashawn McCoy looked good and they pulled
Speaker 1: out a thirty to nineteen win over the Rams after
Speaker 1: a fake punt missfired. So let's talk about this game.
Speaker 1: I had that incorrect. I said Dan chose the Bills
Speaker 1: to win. We're saying that he chose them to lose.
Speaker 1: Is that he was? Was that he's saying? Was it
Speaker 1: was a bounce back as in backward Rex type of game.
Speaker 1: I believe his lock of the week or not. I
Speaker 1: don't get signal. It was the rain that that that
Speaker 1: the Bills would fall apart and Jeff Fisher to defend
Speaker 1: that block punt and for some context. It's just a
Speaker 1: few minutes I think four minutes left in that game,
Speaker 1: maybe even less, fourth and five deep in their own territory,
Speaker 1: and they go for the fake punt there. The problem
Speaker 1: is they've done so many fake punts over the years.
Speaker 1: The Bills were expecting it. How was that defending Jeff Fisher?
Speaker 1: I'm not defending at all. How about the fact that
Speaker 1: he said I was playing to win. How about have
Speaker 1: you played a win? Put your quarterback and Todd Gurley
Speaker 1: and your receivers on the field and try to pick
Speaker 1: up five yards. If he was playing for the win,
Speaker 1: why went it to seven point game with only five
Speaker 1: or six minutes left? Does he go for the field
Speaker 1: goals the four point game? For what to worth? But yeah, no,
Speaker 1: earlier when he went for the field goal when a
Speaker 1: touchdown would have tied it. And even if you go
Speaker 1: for the field goal, you still need a touchdown, and
Speaker 1: it forces you to make these decisions like the fake
Speaker 1: punt when you do that. Yeah, I I had problems
Speaker 1: with all of that. And yet when I watched, you know,
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of the game and all the key plays,
Speaker 1: the Bills won the battle. I mean, the Rams are
Speaker 1: missing three of their fourth starting defensive lineman, and the
Speaker 1: Bills on all of these plays where Fisher made questionable decisions,
Speaker 1: they won those plays. They they prevented them from scoring
Speaker 1: the touchdown, they forced the fourth down. You know, they
Speaker 1: made a nice play when he called the fake punt.
Speaker 1: They were the better team. Welly, good team right now.
Speaker 1: You talked about this Rams defense is being the you know,
Speaker 1: the core of their whole effort to try to get
Speaker 1: over the seven and nine hump. You just gave up
Speaker 1: a hundred and ninety three yards rushing at seven point
Speaker 1: one yards per carry. I mean, give me a break. Well,
Speaker 1: I think Greg has talked about this. Lashawn McCoy is
Speaker 1: looking good the last few weeks, and Anthony Lynn just
Speaker 1: deserves the bulk of the credit. He's He's steeped in
Speaker 1: the running game. He's not a passing game guy. He
Speaker 1: has always been a running backs coach, and they are
Speaker 1: getting it done on the ground. Well, whatever Greg Roman
Speaker 1: was doing before wasn't working. And when Lynn came in,
Speaker 1: he took all of the players and asked them what
Speaker 1: they liked to do and what plays that they felt
Speaker 1: like they were good at, and what they wanted to
Speaker 1: run and then he made a game plan based around that.
Speaker 1: It's a novel idea, as I mean, wouldn't that work
Speaker 1: in any other place? Ask her a police what they
Speaker 1: like to do and what they're good at. I think
Speaker 1: that the seed of course coaches do that. They talked
Speaker 1: to their players, especially the quarterbacks, about what what players
Speaker 1: they what plays they like the best. Makes sense, but
Speaker 1: it's not a way. It's not a bad way to
Speaker 1: start off. Your role is to actually show that you're
Speaker 1: open to their ideas and whether you use them all
Speaker 1: that's a different STORYSA McCoy is the best player on
Speaker 1: their offense, especially with Sammy Watkins hurt, and he's playing great,
Speaker 1: And the next best thing about their offense is their
Speaker 1: offensive line and it's playing better. I mean Tyrod Taylor hasn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say his play has particularly changed the last
Speaker 1: three weeks. The defense in the running game, How would
Speaker 1: that work? Say with Odell Beckham, just like you crowd
Speaker 1: towards him and he's like, throw it to me every
Speaker 1: time every time. That's how we went. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: It's it wouldn't really work that way. I mean, this
Speaker 1: Bill's defense has Lorenzo Alexander as the NFL's leading sack artist.
Speaker 1: The last time we were in the studio, we're talking
Speaker 1: about Marcus Golden as the surprising one. Now it's Lorenzo Alexander.
Speaker 1: It's another game where Preston Brown and Zach Brown. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, there wasn't there wasn't play in this game
Speaker 1: where Tyrod Taylor, second year starter, lined up behind guard
Speaker 1: as the as the ball shotgun past him for an issue,
Speaker 1: but an all time I have to it was a
Speaker 1: little bit of a low point. They dug themselves out.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've taken Rex Ryan to task a million
Speaker 1: times as of others on the show, and uh, you
Speaker 1: know this is Rex Ryan saving his job over the
Speaker 1: last three weeks. Get get used to it. They're hosting
Speaker 1: the forty niners next week and then they're going to Miami.
Speaker 1: And if your power ranking the teams, that might be
Speaker 1: the you know, two of the word three teams in
Speaker 1: the in the league. And I know the Bills aren't
Speaker 1: a guaranteed win any week, but the way they're playing,
Speaker 1: they got a real chance to be five and two
Speaker 1: and write in it well, and we're about we're about
Speaker 1: nineties six hours removed from taking contra or to town
Speaker 1: for putting the Bills up at his twelfth best team
Speaker 1: ranking in our power Poll. Maybe Connors simply wrote this
Speaker 1: rankings from December while the rest of us were in October. Well,
Speaker 1: he also ranked the forty niners really high. Never know
Speaker 1: what can happen. He's a wild card, total wild card.
Speaker 1: I know, you never know, as the Bills is a
Speaker 1: wild card. So he puts me more in the oracle.
Speaker 1: That is true. Let's move on to the Colts and
Speaker 1: the Bears. So Brian Hoyer, I mean it looks like
Speaker 1: he's a better option than Jay Cutler as well. They
Speaker 1: didn't win the game, but the Colts won three. But Hoyer,
Speaker 1: I feel like, is the better option in Chicago. He is?
Speaker 1: And yet what I don't know, what does it matter?
Speaker 1: What do you? What does it matter? They had their
Speaker 1: most yards in a game since, but they can't beat
Speaker 1: the Colts, you know, on the road. I mean, they're
Speaker 1: they're one in four. They're a team going nowhere. To me,
Speaker 1: neither one of those guys is going to be their
Speaker 1: quarterback next year. Well here's where. To me, it mattered
Speaker 1: for them to win this game, and they managed to
Speaker 1: do it. It's basically last year's Texans where if you're
Speaker 1: a Bears fan and you've been through the j Cutler
Speaker 1: experience and you're at this point just exhausted and focusing
Speaker 1: on the Cubs, then you have a team that's finally
Speaker 1: come to the conclusion that it's time to rebuild the
Speaker 1: quarterback position and Jake Cutler is no longer just going
Speaker 1: to be presumed to be the starter. I will say
Speaker 1: one thing that the weak Cutler goes out is the
Speaker 1: week that they finally got rid of the most boring
Speaker 1: backfield in sports and found a real running back. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's well, what's what's going on with this team?
Speaker 1: Where they didn't see this earlier in the year. Maybe
Speaker 1: he wasn't showing it, but I mean, you got a guy.
Speaker 1: Why is it the year of teams playing in the
Speaker 1: worst running back to start the season, only to realize
Speaker 1: a month into it, oh, hey we have somebody better.
Speaker 1: We got this guy Jordan Howard. The second straight week,
Speaker 1: he has a great game. He had a hundred and
Speaker 1: eighteen yards on the ground, forty five yards receiving at
Speaker 1: its touchdown. I mean, this guy he looked great at
Speaker 1: the combine. But now they're finally using him and we're
Speaker 1: finally seeing it on the field. Yeah, he he's a
Speaker 1: three down. I mean, he's a guy who's good in
Speaker 1: the passing game, and he's a good power back. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna make you miss or anything. On his fifty
Speaker 1: seven yard run, a lot of you know running backs
Speaker 1: would have scored a touchdown on that because he's not
Speaker 1: going to get the long speed. But he's fun to watch.
Speaker 1: He's good, and he gives them a little life watching them.
Speaker 1: But the Colts, the Colts in this game, we're the
Speaker 1: more important team to me because I think they can
Speaker 1: still matter because Andrew Luck is on their team and
Speaker 1: he played a really good game. Their offensive line gave
Speaker 1: up five sacks though to a team in the Bears
Speaker 1: that only had six all season going into this game,
Speaker 1: and the Colts got the ball back uh needing, needing points,
Speaker 1: needing a touchdown late in this game with under five
Speaker 1: minutes to go, and I started thinking this is gonna
Speaker 1: be an ugly week in Indianapolis if Luck can't pull
Speaker 1: something out. And he goes right down the field, including
Speaker 1: a long touchdown on a beautiful throat of t Y
Speaker 1: Hilton and gets the job done. What he needs to.
Speaker 1: He's been sacked twenty times and hit forty two times,
Speaker 1: and the Colts are still third in the NFL and scoring,
Speaker 1: behind the Steelers and Falcons. I think that speaks to
Speaker 1: him having a pretty good season despite everything around him
Speaker 1: being pretty poor. And it does, it doesn't. It speaks
Speaker 1: even though they're in that in the mix in the
Speaker 1: FC South. I mean it's hard for them to win games,
Speaker 1: you know. They They've had to have last second touchdown
Speaker 1: drives just to win to home games against Chargers and
Speaker 1: the Bears. It's just it's tough. He's playing uphill every week.
Speaker 1: I mean, this this division, you know, well we all
Speaker 1: kind of wasted some breath this offseason talking about the
Speaker 1: a f C South turning the corner, how exciting they'd be,
Speaker 1: and you know, things don't change as quickly as we
Speaker 1: want them to sometimes. This did vision still is probably
Speaker 1: gonna be won by a nine and seven team that
Speaker 1: is completely disappointing and get your airmailed out of the
Speaker 1: playoffs one weekend. I think this is the team that's
Speaker 1: gonna win it too. I think their defense is getting
Speaker 1: a modicum of health, whereas to start the year was
Speaker 1: unreal how many starters and important players were injured on
Speaker 1: that defense. And you get their cornerbacks healthy. Henry Anderson's
Speaker 1: coming back, who was their best defensive lineman last year,
Speaker 1: So you're starting to get a little bit healthier. Maybe
Speaker 1: they can keep people down to twenty three points a
Speaker 1: game instead of thirty. Healton has gone over a hundred
Speaker 1: and seventy yards last three games. Frank Gore number two
Speaker 1: nine on the all time list. Well, all all the
Speaker 1: credit to Frank Corp. But there were like four guys
Speaker 1: that were separated by like eighteen yards, so in one
Speaker 1: in the London game he shot past like three of them.
Speaker 1: He shot past another today. I mean, you know you
Speaker 1: saw it coming barring like a car crash. Veteran moved
Speaker 1: by him playing one last year just to move past
Speaker 1: all those guys does. It's a good good job him.
Speaker 1: Next up the Miami Dolphins at home. They were not
Speaker 1: a able to stop de Marco Murray and the Titans
Speaker 1: running game. Hard Rock Stadium tough place to play these days.
Speaker 1: They lost thirty to seventeen in this game. So I
Speaker 1: don't even know what to say about the Dolphins and
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill and this offense but I am encouraged by
Speaker 1: the run game in Tennessee. Yeah, I was ready to say, look,
Speaker 1: it looks like the Titans offense got healthy, but the
Speaker 1: defense got healthy in this game. I think the Dolphins
Speaker 1: only so. The Dolphins are just bad in every area
Speaker 1: on the field. There, They're tough, they're tough to watch.
Speaker 1: I know there's other options, but I think they're the
Speaker 1: most disappointing team in the league or the most dispiriting
Speaker 1: to watch, because there's just so little to feel good about.
Speaker 1: The Titans offensive line is ranked this week before this
Speaker 1: game even by Pro Football Focus as the number one
Speaker 1: offensive line in the league. The running game is working.
Speaker 1: A lot of what Mike Malarkey wanted to do is
Speaker 1: sort of is working. The passing game is not. But
Speaker 1: they got healthy in this game. They look good. Who knows,
Speaker 1: there only one game back now in a lousy division,
Speaker 1: and they have a few things coming together that at
Speaker 1: least you can feel good about. One other promising sign
Speaker 1: for the Titans offense. They they busted out some zone
Speaker 1: replays today, which have been kind of missing from their
Speaker 1: attack this year. But it's what Marcus Mariota does well.
Speaker 1: I mean, but the thing is with Tennessee because this
Speaker 1: is like the optimal spot where suddenly it's easy to
Speaker 1: feel hope about the Titans again. And they play Cleveland,
Speaker 1: they're not, and they're not Miami at least they're not.
Speaker 1: They're not. They're They've got a much better situation I
Speaker 1: think long term at quarterback right now and in other
Speaker 1: parts in place. But it just doesn't feel after what
Speaker 1: we've seen the sample size that it's sustainable when you
Speaker 1: run into real opponents, well their next four games or
Speaker 1: the Browns, Colts, Jaguars, Chargers. So they're very much alive
Speaker 1: in this division, very much. Yeah, and Adam Gate said
Speaker 1: after the game he is not benching in Tannehill for
Speaker 1: the rest of the year, so you can stop asking
Speaker 1: that question. I don't know if I've ever and he
Speaker 1: looked very agitated. This was a point I made last show.
Speaker 1: When you when you watch him on the post game,
Speaker 1: just do it. You'll see what I mean. He is.
Speaker 1: He is just being driven crazy by this Dolphins team,
Speaker 1: just like all the fans and pretty much everyone else
Speaker 1: that's worked for the Dolphins for the last fifteen years. Well,
Speaker 1: it's brutal watching them this year and when you look
Speaker 1: at the Titans offense. And you see how Mariota did today,
Speaker 1: three touchdowns. You see the way that they're running the ball.
Speaker 1: Mariota rushed for sixty yards this this game. The offense
Speaker 1: was really good and the Dolphins just can't get anything
Speaker 1: going that. Wow. Eight first downs for the Dolphins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you just don't see that in the NFL. But this
Speaker 1: is and this is the third game like that that
Speaker 1: they've been like that. Thirty six plus minutes of possession
Speaker 1: for Tennessee. This is a malarkey, you know, dreamscape. This
Speaker 1: is what he wants. Even in the games where Tannehill
Speaker 1: has moved the ball, it's not until they're out of
Speaker 1: the game. It's it's depressing. Yeah, Tannehill was sacked six times,
Speaker 1: Mariota zero. All right, and that brings us to Sunday
Speaker 1: night football. All right. We had the Packers. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: that's great. Good, I'm glad that's still happening. Uh. The
Speaker 1: Packers and the Giant, Oh cool. Every Sunday night we're
Speaker 1: treated to this sound bite. Thank you, Sydney said, We're
Speaker 1: done perfect, all right? The Packers and the Giants. So
Speaker 1: the Giants. All week long, all we heard about was
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Jr. And he's not having fun anymore and
Speaker 1: he's too emotional and blah blah blah blah blah. They
Speaker 1: go into the Packers in lambeau Field, Aaron Rodgers throws
Speaker 1: two touchdowns, two interceptions, and the Packers still end up
Speaker 1: winning the game twenty three six. We've all been watching
Speaker 1: this game extensively all night, Med and Clue did. So
Speaker 1: what really stood out to you, guys? I think Eli
Speaker 1: Manning struggling for the second straight week. Greg thought that
Speaker 1: Eli's game last week was bad. When he watched the tape,
Speaker 1: I thought it was too And then I'd say the
Speaker 1: last three weeks. He really struggled in uh st in
Speaker 1: wink three against the Saints too. Yeah, that seems like
Speaker 1: a trend yards. Yeah, I think what you said about
Speaker 1: the running game West, like when you're when you're the
Speaker 1: New York Giants and you're rushing for two point nine
Speaker 1: yards to carry, like it puts Eli Manning into a
Speaker 1: tough spot. They don't. They're just not a balanced offense
Speaker 1: at all. They've been savage by injuries. But to me,
Speaker 1: you look at teams, what what's their identity gonna be? Now?
Speaker 1: They spent a lot of money on defense. I think
Speaker 1: they're better on defense. They're they're not getting the pass
Speaker 1: rush that they expected. But to me, they're a team
Speaker 1: that's gonna be built on their passing game. They have
Speaker 1: to be a good passing game and they're not right now.
Speaker 1: And that's why they hired Bob McAdoo. Did I just
Speaker 1: call him Bob McAdoo. Ben Ben McAdoo and his offense
Speaker 1: that they wanted continuity for is really struggling. I mean
Speaker 1: it is the part of the team that's struggling right now.
Speaker 1: And McAdoo is struggling. He had a terrible challenge in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, burning one time out on a play
Speaker 1: that wasn't likely to be overturned, and then he decided
Speaker 1: not to use a challenge on the Randall Cob catch
Speaker 1: at the very end of the game that I think
Speaker 1: could have been overturned and they would have gotten the
Speaker 1: ball back for a chance to win the game. And
Speaker 1: he sat there, sat on it with a time out
Speaker 1: in his pocket. Yeah. And not to mention Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: in this game, the way that they started at the
Speaker 1: Packers and all the different personnel packages that they started
Speaker 1: the game with, it was so It was really interesting
Speaker 1: the way that they mixed it up, and then it
Speaker 1: kind of just went blah after that. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: they want to get Time Montgomery involved, and then by
Speaker 1: the end of the game it's still Adams, Nelson, Cobb
Speaker 1: for the last two quarters. Yeah, it's a little interest.
Speaker 1: I agree. These are two offenses you know, that are
Speaker 1: mirror images in terms of the coaches, and they're both
Speaker 1: struggling right now, and there's gonna be some concern, I
Speaker 1: would guess in Green Bay about you know, Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: throwing for five point eight yards for tempt not having
Speaker 1: a great night. But they're a complementary team. They've got
Speaker 1: one of the better Packers defenses that we've seen in
Speaker 1: the Mike McCarthy era. Even with some injuries at cornerback tonight,
Speaker 1: this is a team that can win games with with
Speaker 1: an okay, too good offense. Maybe it doesn't need to
Speaker 1: be unbelievable when nobody's close to them. And run defense
Speaker 1: this year, I think they average less than two yards percared. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that played out tonight. And then when you look
Speaker 1: at how New York jumped out to its fast start
Speaker 1: this season, it was you know, there was chatter that
Speaker 1: there three wide receivers might be the best trio in
Speaker 1: the league with Beckham, Cruise and Sterling Shepherd. Tonight they're
Speaker 1: held to a combined seventy yards. So it's you know,
Speaker 1: when you're shutting that down, you're the whole. There really
Speaker 1: wasn't away from New York to kind of get in
Speaker 1: to flow tonight and certainly not come back from the
Speaker 1: hole they dug two straights. The offense has been shut down.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Macadoo's issues and Odell Beckham, I don't think
Speaker 1: he has a hundred yard game this year. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: not an Odell Beckham problem. He established on film. How
Speaker 1: good he is. That's the coach on that late touchdown.
Speaker 1: You gotta get him the ball. Yeah, And this is
Speaker 1: terrible for they really needed this win, just in the division.
Speaker 1: They've lost three straight now now they're two and three,
Speaker 1: last in the division. When you have the Cowboys four
Speaker 1: and one, the Eagles three and one, Redskins even three
Speaker 1: and two, when they got a tough stretch they've got
Speaker 1: They've got the Ravens next, then the Rams. I know
Speaker 1: everyone likes to laugh at the Rams, but the Rams defense,
Speaker 1: you know, after what we saw tonight that could be
Speaker 1: a concern. Then they then a bye week than the
Speaker 1: Eagles and Bengals. I mean, that's they've got a tough
Speaker 1: month ahead. It's tough for the Giants right now. Sorry
Speaker 1: Giants fans out there, don't they always find a way
Speaker 1: to kind of like climb when they have these up
Speaker 1: and down seasons. They we think we want to write
Speaker 1: them off, and they climb their way back out and
Speaker 1: do something kind of magical and it's quite annoying or
Speaker 1: quite fascinating. Hanging around not Macado. Oh that's a good point.
Speaker 1: A lot of shared DNA though. Yeah, a lot of
Speaker 1: the conflin's like still hanging around the building, like using
Speaker 1: the bathroom. And you know, probably the team library, the
Speaker 1: team library. Yeah, I think teams are probably every nice
Speaker 1: library with every book. Yeah books, not every team bas
Speaker 1: novels as a big library. There's a bean bag chairs
Speaker 1: nice to let let him stay. I was trying to
Speaker 1: think of the book that you were reading up and
Speaker 1: I know a lot of players like to take out
Speaker 1: The Awakening by Kate Chopin That fell massively flat. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a book that I was reading on my
Speaker 1: off dayn quite enjoying it. Whatever happened to the book
Speaker 1: club that was going on here at your husband Ganza
Speaker 1: tried to start. I wasn't thrilled with the book. I think,
Speaker 1: well that was Mark's book. Yeah, my book got panned,
Speaker 1: and then I lost interest in every person involved in
Speaker 1: the grip that spasically what happened. I don't need to
Speaker 1: like enjoy a book and then have like all these
Speaker 1: text messages going back and forth. WHOA, your book really sucked?
Speaker 1: Like A didn't write it? Don't care? You care? Yeah
Speaker 1: you care. There were a lot of hot takes on
Speaker 1: that book, but spent like setting up some alternative lifestyle
Speaker 1: for Lee Harvey Oswald. I couldn't get into that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not not surprised. It's podcast has gone even more
Speaker 1: after it. We gotta get out of here, said, should
Speaker 1: we get another? All right? I was gonna do Sunday Night,
Speaker 1: but this one works too, because we really should get
Speaker 1: the hell out all right, everybody, Dan is back. You
Speaker 1: guys are back next week, and we'll see everybody on
Speaker 1: Sunday and Monday. Monday. People are looking at me like
Speaker 1: there's a problem. Well, yeah, just because I said i'll
Speaker 1: see you guys on Sunday and then Monday, but there's
Speaker 1: no podcast on Monday. Well it actually you could do
Speaker 1: this today, but now do you want to go back
Speaker 1: and redo it. Let's just redo it, yeah, the whole thing. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: just just at the end. Just or we could just
Speaker 1: include this as the at the beginning. She could be like, listen,
Speaker 1: let's try that. All. Let's just include this. Everybody's sorry,
Speaker 1: I'm tired, and that's it. Suld be so bitter. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be. I'd be in my car. The three of
Speaker 1: you can from the top, everybody, I've learned. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: just leave it. It's fine, you want to leave. This
Speaker 1: is the easter egg. You've done it plenty of time.
Speaker 1: This is fine as an easter egg. Yeah, do that
Speaker 1: so we can all leave now, okay, all right, good,
Speaker 1: fine now