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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up? Boys? Hey Dan? What is happening?
Speaker 1: We have an ordinerary Mark Sessler tonight, and I love it.
Speaker 1: I'm not happy. I'm not happy. I'm not loving it
Speaker 1: because it means Mark is genuinely upset. I don't even
Speaker 1: want to get into it. Yeah, we we have to
Speaker 1: be careful here. You gotta be care when quiet storm
Speaker 1: is raging, you gotta be careful. But the Browns let
Speaker 1: him down today, and we'll get to that a little
Speaker 1: bit later. But Marks a pro. He's gonna come. He's
Speaker 1: gonna come and deliver a big time show like he
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Speaker 1: Today's show, however, breaks down all the action in the
Speaker 1: in week four Sunday uh from the London game at
Speaker 1: Wembley Stadium all the way through Sunday night football in
Speaker 1: rainy Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania on a day where uh, yes, and
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the first game we talked about where
Speaker 1: a name that we've known very well for many years
Speaker 1: surge to the quarter pole m v p uh first ranking. Greg,
Speaker 1: don't go, don't make a face like, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Yeah, what is the reference? I'll tell you
Speaker 1: who it is. You say who it is? Ry That Ryan? Baby,
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan's leading the league in every category, even sacks
Speaker 1: total blocks. To be fair to Greg, he's the guy
Speaker 1: that for months have been has been calling the the
Speaker 1: NFC South the most exciting division football and propping up
Speaker 1: the Falcons. So how does he not know that Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan was question come back to us, Gregg, that's all
Speaker 1: plugged in. You're talking about Aaron Donald someone on those
Speaker 1: fiery Rams. We'll talk about the Fiery Rams to a
Speaker 1: lot of great football to talk about. In fact, we
Speaker 1: have so much football to talk about. Let's get right
Speaker 1: into it. And again, right now we're on periscope, people
Speaker 1: watching live. Thank you uh for plugging in. We appreciate you.
Speaker 1: I'm using hand gestures that communicate in the visual medium. Anyway,
Speaker 1: let's do some talk about football, and let's start, yes
Speaker 1: with the Atlanta Falcons. Matt Ryan greg was not aware
Speaker 1: of until just now. I'm aware of him. I'm aware of.
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons and Julio Jones became the first quarterback receiver
Speaker 1: tandem of the Super Bowl era. That's fifty years, folks,
Speaker 1: to combine for at least five hundred passing yards and
Speaker 1: three hundred receiving yards marone. And when that happens, you
Speaker 1: win football games. Atlanta Falcons blew away the Carolina Panthers
Speaker 1: forty eight to thirty three. Chris Westling, what did you
Speaker 1: see in Atlanta? Is something special cooking down there? And
Speaker 1: nobody saw it coming. Well, we said all along, this
Speaker 1: offense has been right there with any offense in the NFL,
Speaker 1: but they played three week teams to start, so they
Speaker 1: faced a Panthers defense that was ranked sixth in Football
Speaker 1: Outsiders metrics heading into this game. Julio Jones had his
Speaker 1: way with Ben A, Ben Wickery, James Bradberry, Darryl Worley,
Speaker 1: whoever they put on. Julio Jones, he had his way
Speaker 1: with him. And then Matt Ryan would Nixon, a little
Speaker 1: Austin Hooper, a little Aldrich Robinson, a little Taylor Gabriel
Speaker 1: spread the ball around, Davante Freeman, running elusive as always.
Speaker 1: Peter Gabriel had a nice run. Peter Gabriel. Yeah, the light,
Speaker 1: the heat in your eyes. Wow, very good, little Uncle
Speaker 1: Rock there. I love it. I love it. Say anything
Speaker 1: with the boombox way earlier than I expected West to
Speaker 1: sing in this program. But yes, this was a game
Speaker 1: that saw Julio Jones go nuts. In fact, let's let's
Speaker 1: get to find his final catch, the one that put
Speaker 1: him to three hundred yards. And it's so funny. It's
Speaker 1: coming after the most recent game where the big, the
Speaker 1: big narrative came out of it was the Falcons have
Speaker 1: all these weapons. Now you don't have to go to Julio.
Speaker 1: But then they go to Julio like mad and good
Speaker 1: things happen. Faking to give to Coleman. He's throwing it completely.
Speaker 1: Get to Julio Jones. Thirty five, forty fights, freight tifty
Speaker 1: del right, sellon, he goes ted five touchs out, what
Speaker 1: play seventy five? Have a roof is about to come
Speaker 1: off the Georgia Dome. Bolio Jones three hundred yards at
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons records. What does this mean? Mark Sessler? I
Speaker 1: think it means that Atlanta has to be taken seriously. Now.
Speaker 1: We there is probably people to remember what they did
Speaker 1: to open the season last year. You get out of
Speaker 1: the gate big, the offense looks unstoppable, then the wheels
Speaker 1: fall off. They still have issues on defense, there's no
Speaker 1: question about it. But you have to look at what
Speaker 1: they've done over the course of the last seven days
Speaker 1: and say, Kyle Shanahan's second year in Atlanta has made
Speaker 1: a difference. Matt Ryan is playing better than he ever
Speaker 1: has before. You've got all sorts of weapons. Even you
Speaker 1: look at Julio Jones big day, but it was just
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago against the Saints, where it
Speaker 1: was everyone else on their offense who was exploding. So
Speaker 1: it isn't a one man attack. And just look at
Speaker 1: the drive chart. Four drives over ninety yards over the Panthers,
Speaker 1: one drive of just seventy five yards one play, another
Speaker 1: five play touchdown drive that takes under ninety five seconds.
Speaker 1: This has been an explosively quick offense to watch Chris Wesley,
Speaker 1: that's play calling and it's great distributing from the quarterback
Speaker 1: who was using all of his weapons, and Matt Ryan's
Speaker 1: vision and pocket movement have been tremendous issue and West
Speaker 1: what is going on on the other side here the
Speaker 1: Carolina Pathers. Of course, when fifteen and one last year
Speaker 1: now one in three, what's wrong with the Panthers? This
Speaker 1: score is incredibly misleading. By the time the fourth quarters started,
Speaker 1: Falcons had the edge four yards twenty three to six
Speaker 1: and first downs and they're only touchdown was a pick six.
Speaker 1: Cam Newton's offense was not moving the ball. They have
Speaker 1: no rhythm in the running game. Cam Newton's lower body
Speaker 1: mechanics which tend to go in and out, and he's
Speaker 1: a streaky passer. He avoided that in the second half
Speaker 1: of last year. They have been shaky this year so far.
Speaker 1: He's been high on a lot of his passes. There's
Speaker 1: just no rhythm right now in their office. And you're
Speaker 1: you're leading receivers Fozzy Whittaker, Calvin Benjman with thirty nine
Speaker 1: yards today they had I'm telling you, they had absolutely
Speaker 1: no offense until Derrek Anderson came into this game. Well
Speaker 1: there they are now two games back the Panthers in
Speaker 1: this division and having already lost to the Falcons. This
Speaker 1: is the race here for the nc NFC South. The
Speaker 1: Falcons at three and one, the bucks Um most likely
Speaker 1: going to go to one in three Caroline, Panthers one
Speaker 1: in three in the Saints at one of three. So
Speaker 1: they're in a good position here. And it feels different
Speaker 1: this year, doesn't it. It does, And yet I do
Speaker 1: think this is a good example of how the team
Speaker 1: makes such a difference and then the quarterback gets the
Speaker 1: credit or doesn't. I don't know. I watched the first
Speaker 1: three weeks at least, I haven't studied this one closely.
Speaker 1: I don't think Matt Ryan was playing any better than
Speaker 1: he was in the previous couple of years. Really thought
Speaker 1: he's been Matt Ryan. He's been solid. The team around
Speaker 1: him is playing much much better. He's been a good
Speaker 1: He's he hasn't been going deep too much until I
Speaker 1: think he's been the best quarterback in the league. He
Speaker 1: was killing them with turnovers last year. Was all I'm
Speaker 1: saying is he is finding receivers quickly. The running game
Speaker 1: has been great. The offensive line has been been great.
Speaker 1: To me, he has been Matt Ryan all along, and
Speaker 1: they're catching up to I agree with the sentiment that
Speaker 1: his struggles were overrated the last year and we're mostly
Speaker 1: attributable to his surrounding talent. But he's playing in the
Speaker 1: position much better this year. I'll spell it out for
Speaker 1: everybody before we move on. Matt Ryan and Greg's next
Speaker 1: QB and dex. You know, number twenty three to number
Speaker 1: number three last week. That's not my point. I just
Speaker 1: think he's been He's been solid. It's been he dot
Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of deep passes today. What Greg
Speaker 1: is trying to say is that he's been in the
Speaker 1: right place with Matt Ryan all along, while the rest
Speaker 1: of us were wrong last year about him. Well, it
Speaker 1: is a wildly sketchy conceit. Let's not move the goalposts here.
Speaker 1: You were kind of off the bandwagon after last season.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of time to talk about Matt Ryan
Speaker 1: because it's one of the most exciting subplots in the league.
Speaker 1: But we gotta keep moving now and move on to
Speaker 1: our next game. We're gonna stay in the NFC and
Speaker 1: talk about the Los Angeles Rams, who were the laughing
Speaker 1: stock of the NFL when they got shut out in
Speaker 1: Week one. But no one's laughing anymore, at least not
Speaker 1: right now anyway. A game that was very close, late
Speaker 1: in the worth quarter of the Arizona Cardinals at home,
Speaker 1: nursing a three point lead case, Keenum leads his team
Speaker 1: deep into Cardinals territory and then looks Brian Quick's way
Speaker 1: in a big spot. Keenum too quick, the one we
Speaker 1: always dream about, Keenum plopping his hands, calling for the shotguns,
Speaker 1: stop flos quickly to the end zone. Quick goes up
Speaker 1: in the air, took Brian to go ahead touchdown. That
Speaker 1: was J. B. Long of ks W D ESPN with
Speaker 1: thank you with I was a little surprised. I thought
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a little bit more there said all
Speaker 1: I had. That was his whole call, and they just
Speaker 1: shut off. The Game's so economical with his words that
Speaker 1: it caught us off guard. They just cut straight to
Speaker 1: commercial after that. Let they let the crowd noise tell
Speaker 1: the story. Yes, With Carson Palmer in the locker room
Speaker 1: for a concussion evaluation, Rams linebacker Mark Barron intercepted backup
Speaker 1: quarterback Drew Stanton this coming after that touchdown to quick
Speaker 1: ceiling a seventeen thirteen win. Four the Rams over the
Speaker 1: Cardinals West. The Rams are three and one and the
Speaker 1: Cardinals are one and three. What sorry, I wasn't ready
Speaker 1: for that. The Cardinals are really slow out of gate
Speaker 1: this year. All ten of their first quarter possessions have
Speaker 1: resulted in punts. This game, I think you can say,
Speaker 1: is just as at true. What is it attributable? Short
Speaker 1: to the Rams front seven and errol. Aaron Donald best
Speaker 1: player on the field today. Eight quarterback pressures, four quarterback
Speaker 1: hits a second a half, including a high low hit
Speaker 1: that he teamed with Eugene Simms to knock Palmer out
Speaker 1: of the game. Aaron Donald is running stunts in this game,
Speaker 1: coming off the edge. Now, how did you already you
Speaker 1: account for him in the middle of the field, and
Speaker 1: now he's coming out and beating your right tackle did
Speaker 1: did that last week too, And it just continues a
Speaker 1: story with this Cardinals offense. They had so many chances
Speaker 1: to win this game in terms of possessions in the
Speaker 1: second half where they had good field position, or they
Speaker 1: or they drive past the fifth and you think, okay,
Speaker 1: it's over. They're gonna finish off the Rams here, and
Speaker 1: they didn't. So I don't want to hear anything about
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer's injury being a huge reason why they didn't
Speaker 1: win this game. By that point of the game that
Speaker 1: it should have been over. I mean that's five that's
Speaker 1: five minutes left and they had failed over and over offensively.
Speaker 1: This is supposed to be an offensively led team. They
Speaker 1: had failed to put the game away and the Rams
Speaker 1: made him pay. Yeah, I'm wondering how teams are gonna
Speaker 1: start playing the Rams offense now. Todd Gurley is averaging
Speaker 1: two point six three yards on the ground carry, and
Speaker 1: there's every time you watch the Rams play offense, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of holes that Case keenum Is is exploiting
Speaker 1: in the passing game, including this, Brian Quick made a
Speaker 1: couple of big plays against Marcus Cooper that cornerback spot
Speaker 1: opposite Patrick Peterson continues to be an issue. But I
Speaker 1: want to see if teams maybe start to give Case
Speaker 1: Keenum a little bit of respect. I liked Case Keenum
Speaker 1: in this game. He's not a great quarterback. West you
Speaker 1: had a great tweet you said he was the younger
Speaker 1: brother of Tony Romo and Ryan Fitzpatrick. In the backyard,
Speaker 1: he's he's taking these shots. He's not afraid to dive,
Speaker 1: he's getting all amped up. Not a not a talented
Speaker 1: quarterback or a super talented quarterback, but he made plays
Speaker 1: time and time again in this game. I mean, we
Speaker 1: are Look, we talked about two teams now that are
Speaker 1: combined two and six with concuss quarterbacks, and it's such
Speaker 1: a difference from just a couple of months ago in January,
Speaker 1: where we just probably would have assumed these two would
Speaker 1: race right back to the playoffs. But you look at you.
Speaker 1: We talked about the Cardinals last week going to Buffalo,
Speaker 1: and we thought they know showed but they're gonna get
Speaker 1: right back to good and I'm concerned. I think it's
Speaker 1: fair to be concerned about the Cardinals on some level.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying the season is over anything like that.
Speaker 1: Arians talked about a team that under his command is
Speaker 1: one close games and they're not doing that this season.
Speaker 1: But where's your level of concern, Chris? You talked about
Speaker 1: this as a potential team of a t L. After
Speaker 1: what you've seen today, this game reminded me more of
Speaker 1: early last season when they didn't reach their potential against
Speaker 1: teams like the Rams last year, same exact game, a
Speaker 1: game that they outgained him by a ton and then
Speaker 1: ended up losing. You could see some positive traits. They
Speaker 1: got John Brown more involved, David Johnson still I think
Speaker 1: the best running back in the league. Chris Johnson had
Speaker 1: some big plays. Uh, there are some bright spots for
Speaker 1: the offense, and it just to me the bigger concerned
Speaker 1: is Carson Palmer's concussion and whether he's available by Thursday
Speaker 1: against on the road, against a short week, which is
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, an incredibly important game for the
Speaker 1: Cardinals who are at one in three now. And you
Speaker 1: know we talked about before this game. Uh, when they
Speaker 1: said that check had rolled over and asked if they
Speaker 1: cars with trouble, then I said, let's see what happens
Speaker 1: in this game. Now they're one in three, their quarterbacks hurt,
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of good mojo around this team
Speaker 1: right now, and now they've got a short week. They're
Speaker 1: flirting with disaster here. Mark Sessler, Yeah, I mean, and
Speaker 1: we'll get onto this too. But when you go into
Speaker 1: San Francisco, I'm not saying the forty niners are a
Speaker 1: great football team, but they are a much better team
Speaker 1: at home. There, for some reason, a different team at home.
Speaker 1: And if you got Drew Stanton running the show, that
Speaker 1: we'll find out what happens to Arizona and the Rams
Speaker 1: deserve credit for making the key plays at the end
Speaker 1: of these three games. It's not like they're blowing teams out.
Speaker 1: The play that stands out to me is the third
Speaker 1: down conversion from Todd Gurley that the passes behind him
Speaker 1: on third and long. He makes a good pass behind them,
Speaker 1: he makes a couple of defenders missed, he gets the
Speaker 1: first down. Two plays later they scored the winning touchdown
Speaker 1: that was set up to to really be a tie
Speaker 1: game at that point in Gurley, who's starting to make
Speaker 1: some impact in the passing game now that they're not
Speaker 1: rushing the ball. If you're the Rams, is tonight the
Speaker 1: night to announce a fourteen year extension for Jeff fis,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do it? This was I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know honestly, because he was no one was
Speaker 1: getting more flame three weeks ago, twenty one days ago.
Speaker 1: But you've put together a pretty good three game stretcher.
Speaker 1: We gotta give Jeff Fisher a lot of credit to
Speaker 1: everybody was against the guy after that shutout loss. And
Speaker 1: I'll point out somebody on Twitter, obviously a Rams fan
Speaker 1: at super annoyed uh tweeted at me get woke. Rams
Speaker 1: are three and one and first in the division. You
Speaker 1: guys better acknowledge this on the podcast. Okay, I mean, yes,
Speaker 1: this basic knowledge, but yes him uh at super annoyed
Speaker 1: that it didn't seem that that means spirited. But yes,
Speaker 1: they're three and one and in first place at the
Speaker 1: quarter pole of the season. Well, he's right, And I
Speaker 1: don't know about the Seattle in the Arizona the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: It's not you're not knocking out a bunch of lightweights.
Speaker 1: I get it. We we haven't really given them a
Speaker 1: ton of credit or a ton of airtime. Are ready
Speaker 1: to believe that this is well, we have negative airtime,
Speaker 1: right and but this the one thing is that this
Speaker 1: defense has been together for a while. It's a young,
Speaker 1: young team, but it is not a young defense. This
Speaker 1: group has been together and their recon When do you
Speaker 1: trade Jared Goff to the forty Niners? Maybe before Thursday?
Speaker 1: Do not break out the panic button in Arizona until
Speaker 1: after Thursday's game. All right, they'll win that game. Please
Speaker 1: well Withdrew after that game with absolutely looked terrible, going absolutely,
Speaker 1: Let's move on. Guys. In the past, playing without Tony
Speaker 1: Romo Dez Bryant would mean doom for the Cowboys curtains
Speaker 1: Markton's but that was before Dak Prescott and Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: showed up. The dynamic rookies led the Cowboys to their
Speaker 1: third consecutive win seventeen conquest over the host Niners. Mark.
Speaker 1: This was not an easy one, but big he got
Speaker 1: it done. Well. It's like we just talked about, the
Speaker 1: Niners really do seem to be a different football operation
Speaker 1: at home. And this was a different game for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys because in three weeks leading up to this they've
Speaker 1: gotten out to six nothing tend nothing in seventeen nothing leads.
Speaker 1: With Dak Prescott under center, today they fell down fourteen.
Speaker 1: Nothing had to dig themselves out of a hole, and
Speaker 1: Prescott played well. He continues to show a lot of poise.
Speaker 1: But for me, Ezekiel Elliott, we've talked about him as you.
Speaker 1: You argued that he could wind up as the offensive
Speaker 1: rookie of the year for Carson Wentz. I think it's
Speaker 1: it's a fair um point by you, because Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: has gotten better and better in terms of his yardage
Speaker 1: and yard per carry every game. And today what I
Speaker 1: saw was a running back that grew stronger, ran downhill,
Speaker 1: and gained steam in the third and fourth quarter, and
Speaker 1: really led this Cowboys team to win with no Dez
Speaker 1: Bryant on the field. He was the difference. Andy's the
Speaker 1: NFL's leading rusher right now. Sure, how about you know
Speaker 1: the other more obvious rookie of the Year candidate on
Speaker 1: this same team. I think if the season ended today,
Speaker 1: would would probably get more of a than Ezekiel. How
Speaker 1: did Dak Prescott look. I think he looked good. I
Speaker 1: mean they it was a weird game. I mean he
Speaker 1: he without without Brian in there. He favored you know, Williams.
Speaker 1: He had looking at he's looking at uh, basically his
Speaker 1: tight ends. Third and fourth string receivers. They did the
Speaker 1: best they could. It was the ground game that made
Speaker 1: the difference in the second half though. But Prescott, I
Speaker 1: can't kill the guy. I mean, he's he's looked fantastic
Speaker 1: in four games. He's now gone one attempts without interception
Speaker 1: the most ever. He's he's careful with the football, and
Speaker 1: I think they've got the offense. It helps that they've
Speaker 1: got the ground game they do. You know, the defense
Speaker 1: also clamped up on on Blaine Gabbert after you know,
Speaker 1: after the first open they score touchdowns right away and
Speaker 1: then at that point they basically just shut them down.
Speaker 1: I mean they they got a perfect schedule to start
Speaker 1: this season with a rookie quarterback. Four straight teams without
Speaker 1: great pass rushes in the last two weeks, two of
Speaker 1: the worst teams in the league. But Dak Prescott, when
Speaker 1: I watched him, he seems like one of the most
Speaker 1: this is hard to evaluate when you're on the couch,
Speaker 1: but one of the smartest, like most advanced rookie quarterbacks
Speaker 1: we've seen a long time, and started in terms of
Speaker 1: changing the plays and point used the words poise, poise.
Speaker 1: I've kind of award poise for the rest of the
Speaker 1: season and I just composed along with Carson Wentz, and
Speaker 1: it's like, I think we're starting to see quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: don't roll in completely raw. They are being better trained
Speaker 1: for the NFL than any other time. I'd even say
Speaker 1: Cody Kessler looked prepared today. That's it's a rash of
Speaker 1: young rookie guys that don't look completely long credit opposite,
Speaker 1: give credit to you know, Jason Garrett. I think for
Speaker 1: coaching up this team to three and one. Wasn't a
Speaker 1: team we thought was too great. And Prescott's coming from
Speaker 1: a system in college that couldn't be more different. Their
Speaker 1: defense has issues, but more Clay Born played I think
Speaker 1: the best game he's played in two years too at
Speaker 1: a big interception and a huge hit on what would
Speaker 1: have been, you know, potentially game time drive by the Niners.
Speaker 1: We heard that Tony Romos starting to work his way back. Now,
Speaker 1: what if they're six and two, not chance. I think
Speaker 1: Romo is the quarterback no matter what. Once he's healthy,
Speaker 1: you can do so much more with him. Now if
Speaker 1: there's like a week seven and one, if there's a
Speaker 1: week he's the quarterback no matter what. If there's a
Speaker 1: week or two it. He just got back to being ready,
Speaker 1: but he's only practiced twice. Maybe they're gonna wait an
Speaker 1: extra week or two till he's really all the way
Speaker 1: back and he's gotten his conditioning back. I don't think
Speaker 1: there's any I mean, this isn't Romo playing like last
Speaker 1: year's Peyton Manning. It's it's Romo as far as we know,
Speaker 1: who's still Romo. And but the problem is that Dak
Speaker 1: Prescott is clearly the future, and so it's just kind
Speaker 1: of we've seen this and now we have to go
Speaker 1: back to Romo and hope that he can continue it.
Speaker 1: One note on the other side, the other team, I
Speaker 1: don't know how many defenders there are who are the
Speaker 1: absolute beating heart of their defense, and if you take
Speaker 1: him out, the defense falls apart. But Navarro Bowman's got
Speaker 1: to be right atop that list and the forty Niners.
Speaker 1: Mark wrote this in his recap Ezekiel Elliott. It is
Speaker 1: no coincidence that he caught fire as soon as Bowman
Speaker 1: cap Bowman left with a non contact injury that they're
Speaker 1: saying looked like an Achilles type injury as far as
Speaker 1: we know at this point, were exactly right. It caught fired.
Speaker 1: He caught fire. At that point, Elliott rap Sheet says,
Speaker 1: the fear is that the Achilles is torn. That's bre
Speaker 1: for them. I mean that could not. He's their most
Speaker 1: important player by far. I mean, this is a team
Speaker 1: that gave up eighty three points over two games before.
Speaker 1: It's one of the least talented teams in the league. Already,
Speaker 1: let's move on. In fact, let's head over to the
Speaker 1: throne of sleeves. The Buffalo Bills are alive and well.
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor played crisp turnover free football and Rex Ryan's
Speaker 1: under man defense gave Jake Brisket fits and a sixteen
Speaker 1: to nothing win over the Patriots in Foxborough. Greg, this
Speaker 1: is the first time you boys have been shut out
Speaker 1: at home since nineteen What happened here, Well, the Bills
Speaker 1: came in and they dominated in every possible way. And
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of things on Twitter about you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what happens with your third string quarterback. It's
Speaker 1: not about the third string quarterback. The Bills offense dominated
Speaker 1: the Patriots defense. The game was won in the first
Speaker 1: three Bills drives of the game twelve play drive ten,
Speaker 1: play drive twelve, played drive, just staying on the field,
Speaker 1: wearing this Patriots team down. The Patriots offense goes three
Speaker 1: and out a couple of times. You know, Brisket only
Speaker 1: through three passes in the first half, because the Bills
Speaker 1: controlled things sixteen first downs to two, rex out coach
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick for a day. I don't think that's that
Speaker 1: crazy to say. Why is that it happens? It's football.
Speaker 1: He Everything that the Bills wanted to do they did.
Speaker 1: I don't even feel bad about this as a fan
Speaker 1: because the Bills were so much better than the Patriots. Well,
Speaker 1: and because you've got Tom Brady coming at that house.
Speaker 1: Yeah right. I mean I was getting tweets like, Oh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have so much fun. Don't be such a
Speaker 1: jerk with the Patriots. I'm not gonna go nuts about
Speaker 1: this game. They're they're getting out of the four games
Speaker 1: at three and one, which is what they obviously would
Speaker 1: have signed off on that losing sixteen nothing is a
Speaker 1: little strange, the fact that they got dominated the way
Speaker 1: they were. But I wasn't totally shocked that they got
Speaker 1: They got beat here. This is a tough situation with
Speaker 1: the third string quarterback. But the more the bigger story
Speaker 1: to me because the Patriots will see what they look
Speaker 1: like next week with Tom Brady, and I don't think
Speaker 1: this was a great game for them overall, but they've
Speaker 1: shown enough this year. The bigger stories the Bills, the
Speaker 1: Bills who could not have been mocked more in this room,
Speaker 1: more given up for dead, just like the Rams are
Speaker 1: back in a great spot four weeks into the season
Speaker 1: there two and two with their playing the Rams next
Speaker 1: week and then a couple of winning book games after that,
Speaker 1: after two dominant performances against the Cardinals and the Patriots.
Speaker 1: And I know it was Brissette in there, but whatever
Speaker 1: you're you're dominating another NFL offense that that's hard to do.
Speaker 1: Slice me off that Jake brisk probably the last chance
Speaker 1: we'll ever get to use what he'll be back where
Speaker 1: he'll be winning a super Bowl. The linebacker corps of
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes, Preston Brown, Zach Brown, and Lorenzo Alexander has
Speaker 1: been the best linebacker corp in the NFL this year,
Speaker 1: and two of those guys are retreaded, Lorenzo Alexander and
Speaker 1: Zach Brown. We did Zach Brown making the leap three
Speaker 1: years ago and it never happened in Tennessee. But he's
Speaker 1: one of the fastest linebackers in the league. He was incredible.
Speaker 1: When you watch this game, he I know they lost
Speaker 1: Reggie Raglan, that was supposed to be a big loss.
Speaker 1: In the end, Zak Brown has been a great linebacker
Speaker 1: for them. Jerry Hughes is one of the best pass
Speaker 1: rushers in the league. And oh, by the way, Lashawn
Speaker 1: McCoy is still really good. He is still people forgot
Speaker 1: about him. He's still a very talented runner. The numbers
Speaker 1: don't pop off the screen today. It was a hundred
Speaker 1: and five yards from scrimmage. He made a lot of
Speaker 1: good Patriots defenders miss again and again credit to Anthony
Speaker 1: Lynn to Well, that's as people were saying on Twitter.
Speaker 1: You know, best way to motivate your in battled defense
Speaker 1: is to fire your offensive coordinating genius speaking one one question,
Speaker 1: can I I I respect to Rex Ryan. He won
Speaker 1: this game sixteen nothing. This is like something he just
Speaker 1: sits around and dreams about in the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: and it happened. But why do you need to get
Speaker 1: on the microphone and tell people that a source inside
Speaker 1: the Patriots organization told you that Prisette was going to
Speaker 1: start this game. Why why do you need to go
Speaker 1: there when you're Rex Ryan, Why can you ever just
Speaker 1: win a game? You always look it's not it's a
Speaker 1: fair question the coach. What other coach in the league
Speaker 1: does this? Oh, he's not like every other coach, and
Speaker 1: that's not part of the reasons some people like him.
Speaker 1: He's different. Well, it's also part of the reason that
Speaker 1: he's you know link things look good today, but it's
Speaker 1: it is a liability when your coach does this kind
Speaker 1: of still love Sorry, I do love it though, because
Speaker 1: here's why he did it. He did it to annoy
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. He did it to at all. You don't
Speaker 1: think Bill Belichick's got to hear that and be annoyed
Speaker 1: that Rex says someone inside the Patriots that he set
Speaker 1: this up the battle not the wark he you think
Speaker 1: he was always trying to get under belichick skin with
Speaker 1: this line. No, I mean, he's satisfying. But let's face
Speaker 1: they had a player out. It's just in they had
Speaker 1: a player out and we had our team, so you know,
Speaker 1: we expected to win. We expected to win some If
Speaker 1: if that's his white whale, someone should tell him how
Speaker 1: Moby Dick ends up. What one last thing about the Patriots.
Speaker 1: You know, I know people think Rob Gronkowski's getting back
Speaker 1: to the mix. It'd be good to see it. You know,
Speaker 1: he's on the field playing martellis end it at a
Speaker 1: hundred nine yards in this game, Gronk had one target
Speaker 1: or one catch. I'm not saying why what why? What
Speaker 1: happened there? I don't know. I mean, I'm not but
Speaker 1: down the coaches film. I assume Gronk will be Gronk conventional.
Speaker 1: You've also got to like to see it. It's it's
Speaker 1: gonna I want to. I'll be concerned about that when
Speaker 1: Brady's back in Nix and ignoring Robbins. Let's see what
Speaker 1: happens next week. Can we get your hamstring analysis? I mean,
Speaker 1: considering you have had hamstring I have, I've had I
Speaker 1: had two hamstring injuries last year. So you can see
Speaker 1: why Gronk might not be Grounk just yet. It takes time.
Speaker 1: West's hamstring exploded heading to third base. Mine exploded running
Speaker 1: to first Blase, But you know what we want to
Speaker 1: we want a championship. Yeah, but I was I was
Speaker 1: a non factor because of the hamstring. Okay, Well, there
Speaker 1: you go. So it could it could be something that awesome.
Speaker 1: You think he's super human, and maybe they should have
Speaker 1: been a little more careful not putting him on the
Speaker 1: field at this point. But they're obviously taking some precaution
Speaker 1: with him. The Pats are gonna be fine. And Mark,
Speaker 1: as you pointed out, this is not trending well for
Speaker 1: your Browns next week. I mean it wasn't anyway, but
Speaker 1: you're getting an angry Bill Belichick team that goes into
Speaker 1: Cleveland to face a talent Uh. Poor Brown's roster. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I might skip that one. Maybe Greg can cover that game.
Speaker 1: I was already assuming you were covering it. Well, assume not.
Speaker 1: Let's move on Jeremy Bergman or something burgo. Uh. Let's
Speaker 1: move on to the meadow Lands where Russell Wilson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Jets now have a chance here. The Bills losing
Speaker 1: to get within a game after four uh at the
Speaker 1: quarter pole point didn't work out. Russell Wilson through for
Speaker 1: over three yards and three touchdowns and Ryan Fitzpatrick man
Speaker 1: through three more interceptions as the Seattle Seahawks pushed the
Speaker 1: Jets to the brink in a seventeen win at the
Speaker 1: meadow Lands. And all that talk about Russell Wilson's ankle
Speaker 1: and knee. You could see when you watch, when you
Speaker 1: watch this game that it did affect him in the
Speaker 1: sense that he was not looking to scramble. He was
Speaker 1: not the same as he always was. At one point
Speaker 1: earlier in the game, Leonard will Williams flashed in front
Speaker 1: of his face. The big Cat was I gotta get
Speaker 1: the big cat back in the overnack. I remember in
Speaker 1: the nineties, everybody was there was a James big Cat Williams,
Speaker 1: there was there was a couple more big the big
Speaker 1: cat Leonard Williams. Yeah, there was a big Daddy, Big
Speaker 1: Daddy Wilkinson, right, yeah, Dann Wilkinson. Yeah, the original big
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's been bandied about. I think it's
Speaker 1: a coach's term, the probably scouting term. Probably then gets
Speaker 1: attached to players and it's a little archaic anyway. So
Speaker 1: the big Cat Lenny Williams gets up in Wilson's face
Speaker 1: and he's unable to move. He gets flattened like a pancake.
Speaker 1: But so that element game of his game was gone.
Speaker 1: But I even respected Russell Wilson more after this game
Speaker 1: because forced to be essentially a pocket passer. He shredded
Speaker 1: the New York secondary on every level, and I really,
Speaker 1: I mean he played an almost perfect game. The some
Speaker 1: of the throws he was making. Our dear departed uh
Speaker 1: a former producer TD used to say that Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: threw a sexy deep ball. Some of his touch passes
Speaker 1: in this game uncoverable. There's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 1: And what struck me and the most UH at this
Speaker 1: from this game was how much better the Seahawks were
Speaker 1: than the Jets. I thought that, In fact, my lock
Speaker 1: of the week did not work out because listen, maybe
Speaker 1: West is right now. I had too much invested in
Speaker 1: them being my team. But I really did think that Jets,
Speaker 1: coming off that Casey lost, we're gonna play well at home.
Speaker 1: And I don't even think they played horrifically. I just
Speaker 1: thought it was a better team bullying them. And maybe
Speaker 1: that goes a little bit towards all of us being
Speaker 1: on board with Seattle is the best team in the
Speaker 1: league before the season started. They looked so good in
Speaker 1: this game, and Kristen Michael again did some things. Wes C. J.
Speaker 1: Spiller Uh straight off the scrap heap had a touchdown
Speaker 1: and looked elusive and fast. So the Seahawks looked very
Speaker 1: good in this game. Russell Wilson, Uh, you have my respect,
Speaker 1: my friend. Yes. C J. Spiller's issue last year wasn't
Speaker 1: just his high end speed. It was that he didn't
Speaker 1: have dynamic cutting ability. And when I saw that first
Speaker 1: thirteen yard run that you alerted me to his cutting
Speaker 1: abilities back. You could tell it on that run. That's
Speaker 1: a great pickup for a guy who's sitting out there
Speaker 1: free for the taking. Other team saying, wait, he was
Speaker 1: just sitting on his couch last week. Could we use
Speaker 1: that Jets in fact worked him out before he signed
Speaker 1: with Seattle. Um, but you know I'm not saying on
Speaker 1: c J. Spiller Now is two thousand twelve. C J. Spiller?
Speaker 1: But he good? Now, Jimmy Yes, Jimmy Graham, are you
Speaker 1: that inspired? C J. Spiller? Just ignore me? Okay, he's
Speaker 1: not playing for the Brown so he's got Jimmy Graham.
Speaker 1: In the off season West, we talked about torn Pateller attendance.
Speaker 1: This is the year of the recovery from the torn
Speaker 1: pateller attendant. Victor Cruz looks good in New York and
Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham looks like Jimmy Graham is second straight one
Speaker 1: hundred yard gain, scary good chemistry with Russell Wilson on
Speaker 1: two touch passes. Like I alluded to earlier, he just looked, uh,
Speaker 1: really really good. And if you have actual Jimmy Graham
Speaker 1: in that offense, which we didn't even have last year.
Speaker 1: They didn't have things together before he got hurt last year,
Speaker 1: it gives a a whole another dynamic that makes them
Speaker 1: even more dangerous. That that is a game changer, and
Speaker 1: that was when I watched that game. Finally over the weekend.
Speaker 1: What really stuck out to me is their the their
Speaker 1: offense is totally different with Jimmy Graham being who he was.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was making some bizarre because last year
Speaker 1: their offense didn't take off until Jimmy Graham was hurt.
Speaker 1: And it's especially useful now because they're not really getting
Speaker 1: much out of Tyler Lockett. They're not playing him a ton,
Speaker 1: which I'm a little surprised about. But Graham is making
Speaker 1: physical catches and that that offense, it might do them
Speaker 1: a favor to have Wilson playing from the pocket for
Speaker 1: this part of the year. Can I ask you a question,
Speaker 1: and it's it's not I'm not jabbing at the Jets
Speaker 1: on any level because there are only so many quarterbacks
Speaker 1: to go around. But I feel that in general, when
Speaker 1: we see a mid tier quarterback have a big season
Speaker 1: like Fitzpatrick dad last year, the caution has to be
Speaker 1: we can't assume that's gonna happen twice based on the
Speaker 1: history of not just Fitzpatrick but players like that. We're
Speaker 1: seeing mid level quarterbacks play well right now out but
Speaker 1: those teams still need to go get a better solution
Speaker 1: at that at that position. Are you looking if it's
Speaker 1: Patrick's definitely now. Do you think he can get himself
Speaker 1: out of this? Yeah, I still think he's He's in
Speaker 1: a slump. He went through a slump last year that
Speaker 1: he came out of. Uh. It doesn't help that the
Speaker 1: schedule has been terrible, or that Eric and Eric Decker
Speaker 1: who might be out for the year now, and that
Speaker 1: I don't know where he had four touchdowns and ten
Speaker 1: interceptions in four games. He's got a one to nine
Speaker 1: ratio last two weeks. He's undeniably struggling right now, but
Speaker 1: I'm not ready to throw in the talent Ryan Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: and again, the Jets were in a weird spot in
Speaker 1: the offseason because there wasn't a great option out there,
Speaker 1: of course, of course, and you didn't want to turn
Speaker 1: to Gino Smith and the Jets. And this what drives
Speaker 1: me crazy about the Jets. They even if they wanted
Speaker 1: to say, Okay, it's not working with Ryan and you're two,
Speaker 1: let's get a young guy in there, they can't even
Speaker 1: do that, even though they have two young guys in
Speaker 1: the roster once Hurt, Bryce Petty, and the other guy
Speaker 1: is a total red shirt project. So the Jets are
Speaker 1: kind of in no man's landed quarterback, which is not
Speaker 1: surprising for a team that would actually have to walk
Speaker 1: around wearing red clothing all the time. And I know
Speaker 1: we're gonna go here and out and he's gonna say,
Speaker 1: let's put in Geno Smith. Nobody Jets. I wasn't. I
Speaker 1: wasn't saying that. I'm saying they will see what how
Speaker 1: Hackenburg's career goes. But I think in a league where
Speaker 1: a ton of rookies and first year players at quarterback
Speaker 1: are playing and playing well, then you have to take
Speaker 1: some of the blame for having a red shirt quarterback
Speaker 1: that you've taken the second round two rounds ahead of that,
Speaker 1: I or you could do I can't. I don't think
Speaker 1: you could look at it that way because he was
Speaker 1: drafted as a total project, a guy that needed to
Speaker 1: be reworked from the ground up. Well, why in the
Speaker 1: second round not to pile up? What are we talking
Speaker 1: about now? I mean, yes, that was a questionable pick
Speaker 1: because things going on with the Rams, right, you can't
Speaker 1: it's a legal I think it's not just the Jets
Speaker 1: have a lot more way to go to develop. It
Speaker 1: felt like you, you guys want me to admit that
Speaker 1: the Jets quarterbacks actually congratulations, I admitted. What do you
Speaker 1: want from that? To be fair, Dan, I don't think
Speaker 1: that we're actually picking on the Jets at all. I
Speaker 1: talked about a lot of teams in this position. There's
Speaker 1: always a group in the Jets are one of those teams,
Speaker 1: that's all. Yes, the Jets have an issue a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Let's see if Fitzpatrick comes out of it. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's gonna have a chance because the
Speaker 1: schedule gets worse. Back to back road trips Pittsburgh and
Speaker 1: Arizona and the Ravens and then the Ravens. Let's see
Speaker 1: what Keith Hands has had to say this week. The
Speaker 1: anger is starting to get through. I think with him
Speaker 1: too now. His name is Keith, He's dance dad. He'll
Speaker 1: doubt about it. He's a big Jets fan. What is
Speaker 1: he going to say? Will that the game today? What
Speaker 1: is he going to will mappen game today? Is the
Speaker 1: review of today's Jets game. The Jets were totally outplashed, outplayed,
Speaker 1: and outcoached. The Jet offense was tenative, and Fitzpatrick, although
Speaker 1: he played better this week, through three picks, including the
Speaker 1: one he telegraphed to Sherman that that was the game change.
Speaker 1: At the turn to game, Jets defense was shredded. I
Speaker 1: don't know where the Jet defensive coaches are because they
Speaker 1: must have not been watching the same game that we
Speaker 1: will watching because they made no adjustments. They were absolutely
Speaker 1: outcoached terribly. And lastly, the two consecutives uh Sion House
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, that was embarrassment to the team
Speaker 1: that they did that. I mean, come on, let's go,
Speaker 1: where are you guys? All right? So terriful games for
Speaker 1: the Jets. Thanks. I've heard that tone from my dad
Speaker 1: when I was growing up if I did something wrong,
Speaker 1: or I brought home or you got a homework report
Speaker 1: sent to him in the mail. You don't want that. No, no,
Speaker 1: that no homeworker. Did they have homework reports? Are you sure?
Speaker 1: No homework? Greag with a shaky call back on a
Speaker 1: bit there. Keith weighed in on on his entrance music. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he likes it. He's gonna be honored, right, Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: really into it. But I think we might be in
Speaker 1: the midst of a flame out Jet season, so we'll
Speaker 1: see what happened. Well, there was a darkness to that call,
Speaker 1: I mean compared to even when they lost the Week one.
Speaker 1: There was some bouncing his step. They played well against
Speaker 1: a good team. This ventured into grim territory. Is a
Speaker 1: little concerned about your dad? Yeah? Yeah, it's not easy.
Speaker 1: It's not easy being a Jet fan. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Michael Crabtree's twenty three yard touchdown reception, his third of
Speaker 1: the day from Derek Carr, put the Raiders ahead, and
Speaker 1: the defense followed with the score. Followed that score with
Speaker 1: a stop ensuring seven win over the previously undefeated Ravens.
Speaker 1: Let's hear what that game winning touchdowns sounded like. Lassid
Speaker 1: string the gun two by two, Derek Low Snap Derek
Speaker 1: looking Derek, Derek and Lobe for crop tray did he
Speaker 1: gets takedown? Touchdown? Raiders track Dad of the Game, Star
Speaker 1: touched out of the game. Greg Papa of kg m Z,
Speaker 1: The Oakland Raiders my nominee as a team of a
Speaker 1: t L are three and one with three road wins,
Speaker 1: all on the East Coast. Even Little Debbie chimes in today.
Speaker 1: So you still don't know who the team for the
Speaker 1: show should be. Oh, I know who should be? What
Speaker 1: do you think, Greg Rosenthal. Anything that gets a little
Speaker 1: Debbie back in our life rapping about the Raiders, I'm
Speaker 1: all about it. Greg poppas the official announcer of the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast. That much is for sure. I mean,
Speaker 1: they get they're so excited because they couldn't be bigger
Speaker 1: football fans and they have had nothing to cheer about
Speaker 1: for about fifteen years, and they finally got a team
Speaker 1: that can win some games on the road, three road wins.
Speaker 1: We mentioned in the preview of this game that Derek
Speaker 1: Carr is the hardest quarterback to sack right now. He's
Speaker 1: also not turning the ball over, he doesn't throw interceptions,
Speaker 1: anymore either. So I think you see that and then
Speaker 1: you see what he did today in the red zone.
Speaker 1: I believe they were three for three in the red zone.
Speaker 1: That's a good quarterback coming together. Right now, what's the game?
Speaker 1: The Ravens are gonna be kicking themselves that they lost
Speaker 1: at home. They have first downs to thirteen for the Raiders.
Speaker 1: They outgained the Raiders by a hundred and fifty. But
Speaker 1: the Raiders to this point, except for the Falcons game,
Speaker 1: have have managed to be the better team in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarters of all these games. Where now they kind
Speaker 1: of you get that, you get that feeling like we're
Speaker 1: gonna hit the plate at Crabty. That was a beautiful
Speaker 1: throw and an incredible move Michael who. I don't know
Speaker 1: who he destroyed on that route. But if you love
Speaker 1: route running on route trees, and I know Maddi Harmon
Speaker 1: of the Fantasy team, he could write probably a long
Speaker 1: form about that route that crabs you around ran for
Speaker 1: the third touchdown because it was so gorgeous. I mean,
Speaker 1: this team and West you pointed out how they were
Speaker 1: badly outgained as well in this game four twelve to
Speaker 1: two sixty one. But that's another reason why I love
Speaker 1: this team and why I really do believe that they
Speaker 1: are a great nominee for the Team of a t
Speaker 1: L because they are scrappy and they fight, and they
Speaker 1: have now two of these great comeback wins. This time
Speaker 1: he gets an undefeated team. The Raiders are an exciting
Speaker 1: team and that and that fan base is finally having
Speaker 1: something to get pumped up about. On the other side,
Speaker 1: the Ravens you mentioned they have to be kicking themselves, Greg,
Speaker 1: but they have some great takeaways from this game. Terence
Speaker 1: West should have been starting in week one. He goes
Speaker 1: over a hundred yards today, look great in the second
Speaker 1: half of this game. Steve Smith has no business to
Speaker 1: have fifty two yard touchdown at thirty seven years old
Speaker 1: coming off in Achilles making that play. It's phenomenal how
Speaker 1: well Steve Smith is playing well. And these are two
Speaker 1: players that other teams didn't want at some point, and
Speaker 1: the Ravens have done an excellent job year after year
Speaker 1: of taking other people's trash. Terrence West was left for dead.
Speaker 1: The guy should have probably been starting earlier. I think
Speaker 1: that was a respectful nod to Justin for set. But
Speaker 1: they've got a good running back who looked nothing like
Speaker 1: this at his last two stops in Tennessee and Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Kenneth Dixon is coming back to that could be a
Speaker 1: good one two point. They didn't even have foresaid active
Speaker 1: for this game and didn't deserve to be. And the
Speaker 1: and the mental toughness of the Raiders who you know,
Speaker 1: right before this drive happened. Every everyone that was a
Speaker 1: Raiders fan and I and I saw some tweets out
Speaker 1: there they were like, I can't believe the Raiders just
Speaker 1: chunked this game away so quickly. The race un the
Speaker 1: race even scored two touchdowns out of nowhere in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter in about two minutes. And and for the
Speaker 1: Raiders just to be mentally tough and then go take
Speaker 1: it anyways as impressive against a mentally tough team like
Speaker 1: the Ravens. This is a really good win for the Raiders.
Speaker 1: And the Ravens are still in good position, and this
Speaker 1: is almost maybe everything kind of averages out in the end.
Speaker 1: The Ravens stole a couple of games earlier in the season,
Speaker 1: now they got one stolen from them. Uh, but you
Speaker 1: gotta these teams, these are both potential playoff teams. Maybe
Speaker 1: one of them could fade, but they both look good
Speaker 1: to me. I watched it again. This was a good game.
Speaker 1: And the Ravens are three and one team. They're not
Speaker 1: a four no team no matter how it played out,
Speaker 1: so they're in a fair place. Let's a move on,
Speaker 1: gentlemen to London. Hi, everybody in London. We have a
Speaker 1: lot of fans in England, which is in Europe. Hashtag
Speaker 1: geography nailed it. Uh. Blake Bortles through two touchdown passes
Speaker 1: and rushed for another, and the Jaguars defense made a
Speaker 1: final fourth quarter stop to lynch a thirty to twenty
Speaker 1: seven win at Wembley Stadium. Uh. Here is the call
Speaker 1: from Bob Lammy or Lamy of w F and I
Speaker 1: hope it's Sammy versus Laney esp intense seventy Uh. The
Speaker 1: Colts broadcast calling the last effort by Andrew Luck to
Speaker 1: get this team to victory out of the gun takes usnap.
Speaker 1: He looks, he steps up, he throws up all his
Speaker 1: by Dwayne and Jacksonville wins. Poor Bob Lammy, And the
Speaker 1: main reason I even pulled him up is because he
Speaker 1: after they outlasted the Chargers last week, he dropped an
Speaker 1: accidental f bomb live on the airwaves. I wanted to
Speaker 1: see if you do it again. He didn't. A brother
Speaker 1: in arms to you. Yeah, well you know he's a professional,
Speaker 1: but yes. So the Colts now fall to one in three.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars finally get that win, and the Colts are
Speaker 1: just a mess, greg they are, and they're gonna be
Speaker 1: kicking themselves. These two teams really went back and fourth
Speaker 1: trying to blow this game in terrible game management that
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck watched his teammates drop at least six or
Speaker 1: seven passes. Anthony Costanzo was terrible at left tackle. The
Speaker 1: guys that they've paid a lot of money to are
Speaker 1: not playing well. Robert Mathis is not playing well for them.
Speaker 1: And the Jaguars, I know it was ugly, but they
Speaker 1: needed this win so badly, and they were up seventeen
Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter and Gus Bradley and this
Speaker 1: team basically had a tutorial on how to blow a
Speaker 1: game in the fourth quarter, and some of the game
Speaker 1: management stuff at the end which gave the ball back
Speaker 1: to Indianapolis was so bad. They have to be breathing
Speaker 1: a sigh of relief because they needed this and maybe
Speaker 1: they can start playing better. I don't think what's a
Speaker 1: well played game in general. Greig and I were texting
Speaker 1: it around six I got for some reason, got up
Speaker 1: at six twenty in the morning, took a quick shower
Speaker 1: to watch this. The first half of this game, very
Speaker 1: nice water temperature, cleanse my entire system. It was great.
Speaker 1: Um something for the female listeners. Not really, I don't
Speaker 1: think that's going to be doing much with anyone. Honestly,
Speaker 1: the first half of this game was one of the
Speaker 1: worst has I have ever watched. And I could only
Speaker 1: feel for the fans. That's right, I could only, you know,
Speaker 1: feel for the fans in Wembley because the television broadcast
Speaker 1: also and this is a this is a minor annoyance.
Speaker 1: Most people wouldn't care about this, but whatever CBS was
Speaker 1: doing with their sleepy announcement of this game, the sound
Speaker 1: was tempering Wembley to make it sound like people were
Speaker 1: watching golf. Wembley is an incredibly loud stating when you're
Speaker 1: there in person, it's a great place to watch a
Speaker 1: football game. This broadcast made it seem like it was
Speaker 1: a poetry reading. It was ridiculous. Well, it's a bad game.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Lendon these games are that's amazing.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because these games, you know,
Speaker 1: because of the time change. They get there on Friday.
Speaker 1: Who knows they're doing events Saturday. It was sloppy drops, penalties,
Speaker 1: not a lot of offense. Even the Jaguars score drives
Speaker 1: were penalty driven. With three minutes left in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some Colt stats. At that point
Speaker 1: in the game. They had total yards and seventy three
Speaker 1: penalty yards. At that point in the game, Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: had dropped back to pass twenty times. The Colts had
Speaker 1: gained ten yards on those twenty dropbacks. So the Jaguars
Speaker 1: were playing Gus Bradley's dream game for three quarters, kind
Speaker 1: of strangling the ball, you know, some five minute drives
Speaker 1: on offense, playing great on defense. It looked like everything
Speaker 1: they wanted to be, and then kind of everything blew
Speaker 1: up in the fourth It feels like we've been watching
Speaker 1: the same movie for four years now. The Quotes can't
Speaker 1: run the ball, Andrew Luck takes too many hits. They
Speaker 1: don't move the ball until late in the third quarter
Speaker 1: of the fourth quarter when they go no huddle up
Speaker 1: tempo and that's what they need to make their base offense. Well,
Speaker 1: here's the thing that they don't know what they are
Speaker 1: because they're so afraid that their defense is bad that
Speaker 1: I think they feel like they have to run the
Speaker 1: ball to protect Andrew Luck. And that's the thing. They
Speaker 1: have run the ball really well in the first half.
Speaker 1: They've been trying to do that for four years and
Speaker 1: they've never once protected Andrew Luck. Right, So I don't
Speaker 1: I don't think there's an answer to it. They're trying
Speaker 1: to keep their defense off the field. They've actually Gore
Speaker 1: has had two big first halfs in a row, and
Speaker 1: it's it's like, it doesn't it doesn't looks better than
Speaker 1: he did last year. Right, it doesn't really matter because
Speaker 1: they are a passing team. That's when they're they're at
Speaker 1: their best is when they're in the h Did Gus
Speaker 1: Bradley save his job? Yeah, for the rest of the season.
Speaker 1: I don't think this was a team that was gonna
Speaker 1: fire Us Bradley midseason, largely because unless you're enamored by
Speaker 1: Doug Marone, there's not a lot of people that you
Speaker 1: shift into the head coaching spot for the rest of
Speaker 1: the year. If they have the Bears and Titans in
Speaker 1: two of the next three games too. If Duyne Allen
Speaker 1: didn't drop that pass and the Colts after a game
Speaker 1: another game management mess up by Gus Bradley in the
Speaker 1: final two minutes blow US seventeen point fourth quarter lead
Speaker 1: and they go in four. I'm just saying, technically, when
Speaker 1: you bring do interim coach, there needs to be a
Speaker 1: logical person who would have to be Doug Marone. I think.
Speaker 1: I mean they had a drive that took eight seconds
Speaker 1: off the clock with about two minutes left that include
Speaker 1: did a one yard out to Mark Easley, also Tiger
Speaker 1: one thing, one thing Mark. Doug Moron does not want
Speaker 1: to move up. He doesn't want a battlefield from I
Speaker 1: think he's probably perfectly happy Dicks figures in the shadows.
Speaker 1: I'm the head coach of the Bills now. I don't
Speaker 1: want to do that. I want to be the offensive
Speaker 1: line coach of the Jacksonville Jaguars under Gus Brett, much prett,
Speaker 1: more preferable. That was probably not the first year we
Speaker 1: took it to the limits, have you though? I don't
Speaker 1: think Blake Borders threw a single pass that went over
Speaker 1: twenty yards today either, they're like coaching around Blake Borders
Speaker 1: at this which is the reverse of what he was
Speaker 1: last season. I want to hear about Jack's Ladies Beach
Speaker 1: house again, It's not in Miami. It's kind of a
Speaker 1: little outside on the beach. By the way. This pariscope thing,
Speaker 1: periscope thing does not work out in the studio. Pariscope
Speaker 1: through showers Sunday morning, that's all Mark. Would you be
Speaker 1: up for that? Definitely not, Nor do I think anyone
Speaker 1: that with with who has periscope would be up for it.
Speaker 1: All right, just spitfall in here, Moving on, find different programming.
Speaker 1: The Chicago Bears got a hundred and eleven yards on
Speaker 1: the ground from Jordan Howard, huh and what can I
Speaker 1: get a home improvement for that one? And a hundred
Speaker 1: eleven yards through the air from Eddie Royal in a
Speaker 1: seventeen fourteen win over the Detroit Lions, Mark Sessler, how
Speaker 1: did John Fox's team bring Matt Stafford back down to earth? Well,
Speaker 1: the one question we raised about the Lions last show.
Speaker 1: We've had people pepper us with tweets make the Lions
Speaker 1: the team of a t l Their offense is so exciting.
Speaker 1: It's because every couple of weeks you get this, and
Speaker 1: I think that the Bears Vic Fangio is an underrated
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator who is doing as much as he can
Speaker 1: with a banged up defensive roster and befuddled Stafford for
Speaker 1: almost the entire game until they scored a late touchdown.
Speaker 1: And on the flip side, Brian Hoyer, who is well,
Speaker 1: we know what he is, but you know what he is.
Speaker 1: He's better than Jay Cutler. Frankly, I'm not saying. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying from a skill set angle, but he did
Speaker 1: not make mistakes today and that's the opposite of Jay
Speaker 1: Cutler the better last week. He has a one oh
Speaker 1: three point three passer rating to Jay Cutler seventy point seven.
Speaker 1: And this is what It's just like, what was it
Speaker 1: three years ago when Josh McCown came in and outplayed
Speaker 1: Ja Well, It's like it's kind of a paraphrasing of
Speaker 1: the Bill Parcel saying, if you have Jay Cutler and
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer as your quarterbacks, you don't have a quarterback.
Speaker 1: You tell know, we even argue because like, neither guy
Speaker 1: is really going to take you to the fair point.
Speaker 1: The one thing we just talked about a Ravens team
Speaker 1: that self scouts well. And yes, they started Terence West
Speaker 1: this week and the Bears started Jordan Howard And why
Speaker 1: did it take so long for both teams to make
Speaker 1: that decision? But I will say this, the Ravens have
Speaker 1: a great track record that the Bears couldn't have seen that.
Speaker 1: Jordan Howard is a bigger, fiercer, better running back than
Speaker 1: the boring crew they had in front of him up
Speaker 1: till now. Then I question everything that's happening in Chicago
Speaker 1: from to the coach. No, because this big look at
Speaker 1: Bears fans. There's a bunch of good franchises out there
Speaker 1: that are crap right now, and the fans have to
Speaker 1: deal with it. Longtime fans where fathers pass it on
Speaker 1: to their sons, Jets, Bears, Brown's, other teams, and it's
Speaker 1: frustrating to watch Chicago do what they've done today. They
Speaker 1: snuck it. They I wouldn't say they snuck a win,
Speaker 1: but this is gonna happen at some point. It's leave
Speaker 1: it to the Lions to blow it. Such a disappointing
Speaker 1: start for the Lions, well, it's I listen. I can
Speaker 1: I read Kevin Patra's right up, and I could see
Speaker 1: he's a Lions fan underneath it all, And like, why
Speaker 1: is he often in a bad mood? I think I
Speaker 1: understand why Why is he lifting weights that are way
Speaker 1: beyond his body capacity? Because he's got rage. He's gotta
Speaker 1: get it out. It's like incredible hulks and he's got
Speaker 1: a right to be raged. And they bench Golden Tate
Speaker 1: for Andre Roberts for he had four targets, one catch
Speaker 1: for one yard. It's brutal that this Lions team is
Speaker 1: one in three. They should have beat the Titans and
Speaker 1: then you go to Chicago and lose this game you had,
Speaker 1: You had it all open for you to have a
Speaker 1: nice start to the season. That's bad teams do. Carrie
Speaker 1: hyderab the five sacks, one in each game so far
Speaker 1: this year, the first player since nineteen eighty three William
Speaker 1: Gay for the Lions to do that. The first woman
Speaker 1: to play in the NFL. Carrie Hider, Yeah, he's not
Speaker 1: a woman. I will I will dig in on my
Speaker 1: tape a little bit next week to di rectify thee
Speaker 1: Let us know what your findings are. Okay, well, I
Speaker 1: already know what I need to find out. That's a
Speaker 1: man moving forward. So far, so good for Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: as the Texans play caller. Brock Osweiler threw a pair
Speaker 1: of touchdown passes and Lamar Miller went over a hundred
Speaker 1: yards total in total offense and win over the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, there was no post JJ hangover in Houston
Speaker 1: on Sunday. No, there was that They controlled this game
Speaker 1: from the outset. Let the Titans back in a little
Speaker 1: bit with DeMarco Murray, but will Fuller the difference in
Speaker 1: this game? He is to me, he reminds me of
Speaker 1: a kind of a mashup of Deshan Jackson and Percy Harvin.
Speaker 1: He's a bigger DeShawn Jackson and he's got the speed.
Speaker 1: They put him on a punt return and he had
Speaker 1: the difference making touchdown right there with the game on
Speaker 1: the line hard. Marcus Mariota and Osweiler look in this
Speaker 1: game bad all the Ostwaller came out and had a
Speaker 1: really impressive opening drive. Looked better. Still looks like Brock Ostwaller,
Speaker 1: but he looked much better this week. Marcus Mariotta looks
Speaker 1: the same as he has the entire season. He threw
Speaker 1: another you know, head scratching interception thrown across his body
Speaker 1: on the run, and maybe maybe Delaney Walker should have
Speaker 1: made a better effort for it, but Mariota didn't. They
Speaker 1: tried a few a few downfield throws this time, and
Speaker 1: he hit one to Richard Matthews, but it's still a
Speaker 1: passing game where he doesn't look comfortable. I know. The
Speaker 1: Titans say they want to be this smash mouth type team,
Speaker 1: and they've done it well for for brief stretches, but
Speaker 1: they need will fuller. They need to go do what
Speaker 1: the Texans did last offseason, which is ad speed and
Speaker 1: downfield elements to their game. Because you can look pretty
Speaker 1: running a disguised running game and dress it up and
Speaker 1: drape it up in a bunch of you know, interesting
Speaker 1: pre snap movements, but bottom line teams are seen right
Speaker 1: through that at this point and you and for weeks
Speaker 1: in a row, it's the same thing with the type.
Speaker 1: The complete reversal of any preseason narrative. The Titans of
Speaker 1: the ultimate case here, because not only was Mariota looking good,
Speaker 1: you had this idea that this one two punch in
Speaker 1: the backfield Derrick Henry three attempts for nine yards. Was
Speaker 1: that game script or was that just poor usage? I
Speaker 1: think they just they see DeMarco Murray is one of
Speaker 1: the best backs in the league, and he is, and
Speaker 1: they don't want to play Derek They should be playing
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry. They should. But the running backs are not
Speaker 1: their problem. That is that's for sure. That DeMarco Murray
Speaker 1: move is a home run right now. I mean, he's playing,
Speaker 1: he's playing fantastic. It's it's their defense, it's the passing game,
Speaker 1: it's everything else the coaching. Let's move on, guys. The
Speaker 1: Washington Redskins jumped out to two score leads, survived Brown surge,
Speaker 1: then took advantage of several Cleveland miskews and a thirty
Speaker 1: one twin in where Greg Landover very good, Landover mark
Speaker 1: Washington has righted the ship after a terrible two weeks start.
Speaker 1: Are they any good? Well, I'd be concerned about the
Speaker 1: Redskins for a variety of reasons. They looked in the
Speaker 1: first couple of minutes of this when they jumped out
Speaker 1: to this fourteen nothing lead. This was in a seven
Speaker 1: minute stretch where Jordan Reid had two touchdowns, And I
Speaker 1: said to West, game over because I thought that Washington
Speaker 1: well and it it. Cleveland climbed back into this uh
Speaker 1: and killed themselves with turnovers. But the Redskins when they
Speaker 1: can fry a bad secondary, they can produce yardagein points.
Speaker 1: But Kirk Cousins, I think the Cousins in the offense,
Speaker 1: he threw a terrible pick on the next possession that
Speaker 1: allowed Cleveland, which had scored previously to tie, to get
Speaker 1: to drive down the field and tie the game fourteen fourteen.
Speaker 1: Suddenly this was a game. And if you're the Washington Redskins,
Speaker 1: and if you're their opponent, you want to find out
Speaker 1: how to beat them. You run at their soft bellied
Speaker 1: run defense. Isaiah Crowell, who was not a very good
Speaker 1: running back last year, is a completely different player in
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson's offense and was the centerpieces. They just hammered
Speaker 1: at Washington's defense over and over and I've never seen
Speaker 1: a Brown's running back have that much space to run with.
Speaker 1: That's a big issue for Washington, but they took care
Speaker 1: of business. Cleveland killed themselves with three turnovers in the
Speaker 1: second half when they had a chance to take command
Speaker 1: of this game. And they're a young team that does
Speaker 1: not know how to close. They are not. They have
Speaker 1: to learn how to close games. They have to lead
Speaker 1: going into the fourth quarter. Um, you know the Bills
Speaker 1: and Redskins are linked to me and that after Week
Speaker 1: two both were huge storylines as teams that seem to
Speaker 1: be teetering on the brink of just a complete disaster
Speaker 1: the season. Neither team has lost since. And the Redskins,
Speaker 1: you know, you can't go crazy, no lollipops for beating
Speaker 1: the Browns here, but again they have now crawled out
Speaker 1: of the Kirk Cousins, like Mark said, who played well
Speaker 1: in this game. He was a guy that was getting like,
Speaker 1: you know, talk from his own team, that was getting
Speaker 1: out into the press. So that shows a little bit
Speaker 1: of fortitude there. Uh to test it, to test what
Speaker 1: do they call it? Testicular fortitude? To quote Guerrilla mont
Speaker 1: Soon by Kirk Cousins, I mean Cousins. I I don't
Speaker 1: want to your point is taken. I don't want to
Speaker 1: say he played well. I think that his numbers look
Speaker 1: better than what he was. Um, but that said, Matt
Speaker 1: Jones carved up Cleveland in the second half. The Browns
Speaker 1: are shorthanded. They're just not a very good team on defense.
Speaker 1: When in terms of star players, they have none. I
Speaker 1: think Matt Jones is running pretty well. They they they
Speaker 1: need other players like Jamison Crowder and Matt Jones and
Speaker 1: Jordan Read and and Sua Cravens on their defense to
Speaker 1: be special because it's like, we know who Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: is gonna be. It's not like he's gonna suddenly change
Speaker 1: and be way better or way worse. He He's there.
Speaker 1: He's there. If I told you, though, that Cleveland would
Speaker 1: have held Jamison Crowder and de Shawn Jackson to have
Speaker 1: combined three catches for twenty six yards, I would have
Speaker 1: liked Cleveland's chances to hang around in this game. But
Speaker 1: it was Jordan Reid. Cleveland's one of the worst teams
Speaker 1: in the league gainst tight ends, and they used Jordan
Speaker 1: Read the right way today. This is the most frustrated
Speaker 1: I've seen you after a Brown's loss, probably in a
Speaker 1: year and a half. Yeah, I was surprised. I thought
Speaker 1: the same thing when I look at their team. Terrelle
Speaker 1: Pryor is mush musty TV Isaiah Crowell. I believe a
Speaker 1: second in the NFL, and rushing Duke Johnson is one
Speaker 1: of the best third downbacks in the league. Gary Barnage
Speaker 1: is a Pro Bowl tight end. Corey Coleman is a
Speaker 1: dynamic young receiver. I think for the first time, there's
Speaker 1: really some promising signs, at least for the offense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not like I was seething in the news room largely,
Speaker 1: and this is just an honest comment. It's a hard
Speaker 1: place to watch football when your team is going through
Speaker 1: embarrassing stretches and there's people all over the place. You three, no,
Speaker 1: not to say a word to me, but it's just general.
Speaker 1: I get it. It's just basically that the environment we're in.
Speaker 1: But if it were real life, if you were at home,
Speaker 1: you turn the TV off and go take a long walk.
Speaker 1: You got you got another six hours of raging through
Speaker 1: games and analysis where it's like your day has been spoiled.
Speaker 1: And I'm not upset at the Browns because I agree
Speaker 1: with you. Hugh Jackson has done a good job coaching,
Speaker 1: but he got he didn't get out coach today. But
Speaker 1: the turnovers when you're a team with outstar players, you
Speaker 1: have to play perfect football to beat teams on the road.
Speaker 1: You can't give up turnovers. Though you're annoyed by that,
Speaker 1: that fumball call. Well, the fumble call to Duke Johnson
Speaker 1: is very suspicious. I'm annoyed because you know, you could
Speaker 1: have Corey Coleman on the field. You could have Josh
Speaker 1: Gordon if he had his life together. It's like potential
Speaker 1: being taken away week after week. You were angry today, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm so how much? How because you know what people
Speaker 1: are like, Oh, that's a pretty good game, Like how
Speaker 1: excited am I supposed to be about being? Oh and
Speaker 1: for the last winless team in the league, if you're
Speaker 1: a fan of that, it's been too long my theory. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And also you you locked up the Browns this week.
Speaker 1: You thought this was going to happen, and I listen,
Speaker 1: all I did was right back to Redskin's fans. Good
Speaker 1: for you. I'm happy for you. You won the game. Congratulations,
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, come on, give me a break.
Speaker 1: On Twitter? Well, we haven't, am I crazy? That? Yeah?
Speaker 1: That the tweets I think is will probably put it
Speaker 1: over the top. Have we even had a show since
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon checked himself? We have not rehab And then
Speaker 1: probably what we did it happened live just broke it
Speaker 1: just as big a story that's right. That that the
Speaker 1: that the Browns plans are releasing because that is a
Speaker 1: significant chapter ending in Gordon's corell. I don't think they should.
Speaker 1: I don't like that, but but that that's our he's
Speaker 1: gonna want You wanna talk about it about Ravens and
Speaker 1: go for two thousand yards Like at the end, the
Speaker 1: Browns gave to this guy so many changes. It's just
Speaker 1: that he's gonna rat. He's gonna fold right into another organization.
Speaker 1: And that's the fear, because it's it's out. There is
Speaker 1: a real fear. He's still in the preseason, he looks
Speaker 1: unbelievably awesome, or he never plays another snap because he
Speaker 1: just can't get it together, or he and I know whatever.
Speaker 1: We've discussed the Browns enough, but I mean it's there
Speaker 1: is a fear of that. Yes, let's move on, guys.
Speaker 1: Drew Brees through two touchdown passes in the final five
Speaker 1: minutes of play, rallying the New ault In Saints to
Speaker 1: a thirty five thirty four win on Sunday against the
Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers. The Chargers who cannot close a game?
Speaker 1: You wanna talk about team that can't close? Charges blew
Speaker 1: a thirteen point lead with two killer turnovers in the
Speaker 1: second half. Mr Rosenthal, Greg Rosenthal or the Chargers the
Speaker 1: best one in three team in NFL history? Sure? Absolutely,
Speaker 1: They're the most frustrating team I think there could be
Speaker 1: in the entire league to root for right now, and
Speaker 1: there's plenty of candidates. It's from another angle, the Chargers.
Speaker 1: I was banging this drum last week, and then what
Speaker 1: do they do? They got a thirteen point lead with
Speaker 1: the ball, not just in the second half, with seven
Speaker 1: minutes to go. You got the ball, you got a
Speaker 1: thirteen point lead, and you're playing backups all across the
Speaker 1: field for the scenes. What do you do? Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: fumbles the ball? You gave up a touchdown. Okay, we're
Speaker 1: still up six. We got the ball, there's under five
Speaker 1: minutes left. The very next play, Travis Benjamin catches the
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers pass with no one around him. He just
Speaker 1: drops it like he's got money on the game or something,
Speaker 1: and that, of course not. He was. He was really
Speaker 1: distraught after he was on the he was on the
Speaker 1: bench with his head in his hands. I mean, it
Speaker 1: hurt him. In the Saints, of course, it wasn't. On
Speaker 1: the phone with his book. The Saints, of course go
Speaker 1: right in for a touchdown. Even with all that, you
Speaker 1: get the ball back to Philip Rivers, plenty of time left,
Speaker 1: a time out, only need a field goal to win.
Speaker 1: They go backwards and he winds up throwing an interception.
Speaker 1: The way they lose these games is just unreal. So
Speaker 1: we can't even pin this one on Mike McCoy's penchant
Speaker 1: for following the Mike McCarthy game plan with the lead.
Speaker 1: I've I've heard a lot of Mike McCoy like, you
Speaker 1: gotta fire him now. It's like his two players fumbled
Speaker 1: and the problem is his defense. And and John pagan
Speaker 1: has been there, I believe the whole time with McCoy
Speaker 1: has a penchant for never making a stop when he could.
Speaker 1: It's not like they had to give the Saints those
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. If you don't games Pagano, your job is
Speaker 1: on the line. Well, and you don't fire Mike McCoy
Speaker 1: when that would make Ken wizzen Hunt probably your head coach.
Speaker 1: What does that solve? I mean, now I'm saying you
Speaker 1: could put I mean, you could put together quite a
Speaker 1: painful scissor reel of the last two years for this team,
Speaker 1: Philip rivers, and some of it goes on the quarterback,
Speaker 1: of course, But in this game, you know that this
Speaker 1: team has had so many terrible losses, like the last
Speaker 1: two years, we're gonna go back to that New England
Speaker 1: playoff games for those playoff losses to the Jets. This
Speaker 1: team knows how to blow a game. My god, it's
Speaker 1: crazy because they could be four now, Greg One thing,
Speaker 1: because we saw we saw, you know, New Orleans get
Speaker 1: carved up through the air and on the ground against Atlanta,
Speaker 1: which is obviously a very good offensive team. But I'm
Speaker 1: looking at Melvin Gordon nineteen carries, thirty six yards and
Speaker 1: at one point nine average, two touchdowns. That's fine. I'm
Speaker 1: sure that came in what short yardage work whoever. But
Speaker 1: what's what happened with him today? The States defense held
Speaker 1: them to threety six yards. It's not like they kept
Speaker 1: them off the scoreboard or anything. So I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: give them too much credit for that. They did make
Speaker 1: the stop when when it mattered, the defense helped win
Speaker 1: the game. The second half they and which is thirty
Speaker 1: four points. Yeah. Well, but when you're talking about the
Speaker 1: stay its thought Monday night, they were an embarrassment in
Speaker 1: their own and now they Despairly's the stay puff marshmallow man.
Speaker 1: The bigger he gets, the heavier he gets, the more
Speaker 1: intimidating he is. And and what might be the final
Speaker 1: that's true. Bringing Nick Fairly to New Orleans has been
Speaker 1: we give him a lot of we give the Saints
Speaker 1: for an office, a lot of you know, a lot
Speaker 1: of guff around here. But it was a move of
Speaker 1: evil genius. Let's let Fairly go to all the New
Speaker 1: Orleans restaurants and suddenly he's can't block justin. That's who
Speaker 1: he was always gonna be. They just letting him in,
Speaker 1: embrace his destiny, and the way we go, that's team building,
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Let's move on, gentlemen. The Denver Broncos are
Speaker 1: four and oh and cruising a easy twenty seven seven
Speaker 1: win over Greg's boys the Bucks. With a trouble in
Speaker 1: Tampa game in which Trevor Simeon and the Broncos went
Speaker 1: down with a shoulder injury. Looked serious, but it looks
Speaker 1: like they're saying it's a day to day injury. And
Speaker 1: he could even have gone back in this game if
Speaker 1: it wasn't a laugher but Paxson Lynch stepped in. Looks
Speaker 1: like he fair pretty well and the Broncos just kind
Speaker 1: of cruise against uh greg a team in Tampa which
Speaker 1: might not be very good. They don't look good at all.
Speaker 1: And this is gonna be remembered by a keep to
Speaker 1: leave when he retires. It's probably one of the greatest
Speaker 1: moments of his football life. I mean, he's had some
Speaker 1: great ones. He won a Super Bowl, but he had
Speaker 1: two interceptions in the first twenty minutes of this game
Speaker 1: that we're both incredible interceptions where he baited Jamis Winston
Speaker 1: into making bad throw. The Broncos scored two touchdowns on
Speaker 1: short fields and a keep to leeb a guy that
Speaker 1: got drafted there had a lot of ups and downs
Speaker 1: by this with this organization. That's what happens when you
Speaker 1: give up on troubled players. Well they had in Toleive's case,
Speaker 1: they really did have no choice, I believe, with the
Speaker 1: circumstances and everything around him and everything that happened. But
Speaker 1: to go back in there and basically serve your team
Speaker 1: up the win, that's pretty sweet for him. Well, first
Speaker 1: of all, we couldn't have been more wrong about the
Speaker 1: Broncos in August. This is one of the best teams
Speaker 1: in the league, and we picked him not to make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Also, yeah, thank you, by the way, summertime
Speaker 1: hot takes. Thank you Eugeniuses for not taking me up
Speaker 1: on my Francos will not make a playoff, but I could.
Speaker 1: I said, I'm already gonna be out six sandwiches because
Speaker 1: of the bucks. Well at that at that time, at
Speaker 1: that time, we were concerned that not only Mark Sanchez
Speaker 1: would start games, but a guy named Trevor Simeon that
Speaker 1: none of us trusted, and Paxiston Lynch and people said
Speaker 1: was not ready for prime time. Instead, John Elway, perhaps
Speaker 1: the best general manager in football right now, has found
Speaker 1: not one quarterback but two. John Elway pulling the strings
Speaker 1: and Gary Kubiak. You know, John Elway made that higher,
Speaker 1: which was very surprising higher at the time. Gary Kubiak
Speaker 1: gets these guys ready to play. Let's hear about Paxton Lynch.
Speaker 1: You you were saying in the newsroom, you don't know
Speaker 1: if maybe they say Trevor simmeons sit this one out.
Speaker 1: Bregg in the newsroom called Paxston Lynch and quotes the
Speaker 1: best quarterback you've ever seen. Uh he has got a
Speaker 1: live arm that you don't see. I don't know. He
Speaker 1: might have the biggest arm in the NFL. He's certainly
Speaker 1: in the mix of just fastballs. I mean, just the
Speaker 1: ball coming out of his hands is incredible. Does he
Speaker 1: give that offense something they don't have when Simeons in there? Sure,
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be able to push the ball
Speaker 1: down the field. He looked pretty comfortable under center, which
Speaker 1: he didn't do a lot of in college. He also
Speaker 1: missed on some some throws for sure in this game.
Speaker 1: All I mean is that I don't think Gary Kubiak
Speaker 1: is gonna mind having him in the lineup. If Simeons
Speaker 1: kind of iffy, let's let's give this guy some game reps.
Speaker 1: I don't think they minded this situation at all. He
Speaker 1: comes in with a couple score lead. Uh, it's an
Speaker 1: easy situation. Let's get our first round pick in the mix. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the new model with rookie quarterbacks. Not we sit
Speaker 1: them for three years, but we sent them for a
Speaker 1: month and a half, get them practice time, get them
Speaker 1: acclimated with the NFL, and then they look ready to roll. Well.
Speaker 1: I think the one thing we have learned is that
Speaker 1: there is no one way to do it. It totally
Speaker 1: depends on what they did in college. And I understand
Speaker 1: Jared Goff, who didn't need didn't even go under the
Speaker 1: huddle and took all his plays from a que card
Speaker 1: on the sideline, is not as close to a guy
Speaker 1: like Dak Prescott or Carson Wentz. And for the Broncos,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like who cares who's at quarterback. It's
Speaker 1: they proved that last year they want a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: with some of the worst quarterback play in the league.
Speaker 1: Their defense is so good it's incredible. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: one of the best defenses we've ever seen last year
Speaker 1: and they've probably been better this year. Derek Wolfe was
Speaker 1: insane in this game. I think five QB hits was
Speaker 1: all over there. And that was the other part of
Speaker 1: the logic going into the season that the defense rarely
Speaker 1: does a historic defense go back to back like that
Speaker 1: and looks like they're they have not lost a step.
Speaker 1: So the defense is just as good, their quarterback play
Speaker 1: is better, and C. J. Anderson looks like he's the
Speaker 1: good C J. Anderson this year. Added all up, Broncos
Speaker 1: are four alright. Jamis Winston by the way too way,
Speaker 1: too many turnovers. Well, it doesn't help when you don't
Speaker 1: have Doug Martin in there. And Charles Simmons was banged
Speaker 1: up today. That's that's the like every quarterback that plays
Speaker 1: the Broncos. He was a pinata. I think he was
Speaker 1: hit thirteen times in the first twenty nine times we
Speaker 1: dropped back. Well, I think we found out that Charles
Speaker 1: Simms is a one B like we expected. He's not
Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna he's He's a robin, not a batman.
Speaker 1: He's hurt them the last two weeks. He's made bone
Speaker 1: headed plays, bouncing it a fumbled again this week. Don't
Speaker 1: saddle Charles sims up for between the tackles. You get
Speaker 1: him on the perimeter. I'm sorry. What about the Bucks?
Speaker 1: Are you feeling down? Look, I'm gonna be watching this
Speaker 1: team and and be rooting for them. They're not a
Speaker 1: team that was ever gonna win eleven games. There are
Speaker 1: never gonna be in the team of eighty. Come over
Speaker 1: to my house. I'm gonna turn the lights out, sit
Speaker 1: in my backyard and drinking. Did you feel Mark a
Speaker 1: little justified in your viewpoint on the Buccaneers in the stadium.
Speaker 1: After all the tweets you got today I did and
Speaker 1: whole by the way, two weeks in a row, you
Speaker 1: can you had to propostpone the game because of weather.
Speaker 1: Slow down, Tampa with your weather. Can we get it together?
Speaker 1: Either it's ridiculous sunlight on the field which is impossible
Speaker 1: to watch, or you're delaying the game because of thunder
Speaker 1: and light Well you want to talk about ridiculous. No,
Speaker 1: I think you guys are ranting and raving about the
Speaker 1: sunlight in Tampa. Now you're ranting and raving about the
Speaker 1: lightning and Tampa. Yeah, that's right, we're upset about you know,
Speaker 1: pick a lane. I don't. I don't care about the lightning.
Speaker 1: I have for more rain in Tampa. Yeah. I never
Speaker 1: had that big of an issue with the sun. It's
Speaker 1: just at the road uniforms and make me physically ill.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's move on, which takes us to
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football Sunday night, Yes, in front of Al
Speaker 1: Chris and the world. There to a half time just
Speaker 1: for a little bit. Did a great job tonight podcast? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bob Costas was there too. He's under contract the nominal
Speaker 1: job the Pittsburgh Steelers whooped up on the Kansas City Chiefs,
Speaker 1: and let's pull back the curtain a little bit. We're
Speaker 1: sitting here. We take the first part of the podcast,
Speaker 1: the main part of the show, where we went over
Speaker 1: all the other Sunday games. Usually we settle in as
Speaker 1: a group when we enjoy the second half of the
Speaker 1: Sunday night game, and we come back after the games
Speaker 1: over and knock it out. But it's thirty six nothing
Speaker 1: at one point, and we just decide, you know, it's
Speaker 1: a fourth quarter, let's just record this damn point. Let's
Speaker 1: not give the Chiefs the respect of waiting till the
Speaker 1: end of this game. So as we speak, it's thirty
Speaker 1: six seven with eleven minutes to play. But what else
Speaker 1: do you need to know? That the Pittsburgh Steelers dominant
Speaker 1: five touchdowns from Ben Roethlisberger. In fact, thirty six seven
Speaker 1: looks too close. How don't we figure out these teams?
Speaker 1: The Steelers, I believe it, gone thirteen straight possessions without
Speaker 1: scoring a touchdown before they went five straight possessions with
Speaker 1: a touchdown in this game. And I can't figure out
Speaker 1: who these teams are. Well, it's impossible to gauge emotion
Speaker 1: from a football team, and it's like you don't put
Speaker 1: that into the analysis before the game. But whatever, the
Speaker 1: Steelers were coming off a big physical win at home
Speaker 1: against the division rival. They really wanted to beat Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: They didn't have it the next week, and it seemed
Speaker 1: like they were woken up by that. And Mike Tomlin
Speaker 1: was talking about it all all week that this is
Speaker 1: gonna be the night that that we go back. They're
Speaker 1: the Christian, Christian Michael a football team. I mean, Dan
Speaker 1: talked about watching Alright, really Sydney, I gotta hear her again.
Speaker 1: Why don't we just play that on loop fifty times?
Speaker 1: Give the people what they want? I mean, Dan talked
Speaker 1: about the Jets no, no, I know, going up against Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you did, going up against Seattle and just
Speaker 1: saying it's it's litmus test. You're not there yet if
Speaker 1: you're the Jets. And I talked about the Chiefs before
Speaker 1: the season, over confidently as an a f C championship
Speaker 1: type team that would probably fall but get to the
Speaker 1: final four. Well nonsense, because no matter what happens from
Speaker 1: here on out, in the game like this, you find
Speaker 1: out that the Chiefs, after all their pretty words and
Speaker 1: all their off season constructions. You aren't there, well you know,
Speaker 1: and you want you waste you waste three hours of
Speaker 1: my time. Yeah, I think rough day for Mark. I
Speaker 1: same thing though. Sometimes you just throw a game out,
Speaker 1: and I think that the Chiefs got overwhelmed here they're
Speaker 1: down twenty two nothing in a blink. The Steelers last
Speaker 1: game too. Well, you're also playing in a gully washer.
Speaker 1: It's a gully washer, which is a driving rainstorm for
Speaker 1: people not from the South. Um. But no, sometimes you
Speaker 1: just throw everybody. Every team deserves a mulligan. I think
Speaker 1: the Patriots gonna get a mulligan for today. I think
Speaker 1: the I think the Jets last week I thought it
Speaker 1: was a mulligan. I think the Chiefs this week is
Speaker 1: a mulligan. I'm ready to write, all right, you're right
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. It's not the final judgment on them tonight.
Speaker 1: But I already looked at the Chiefs as a team
Speaker 1: that has refused to enter that top tier of four
Speaker 1: or five six teams. They're on the fringe, and at
Speaker 1: some point you've got to make a statement on the
Speaker 1: road against a good other team. It's not it's not
Speaker 1: a close game. They lost. They got level. It's not
Speaker 1: one game though that you need to look at for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, it's four For their offense. I thought their
Speaker 1: offense was gonna come into this year. On another level,
Speaker 1: I would say they're off has been significantly worse this
Speaker 1: year than they were a year ago. The only the
Speaker 1: only ten points offensively against the Jets until late in
Speaker 1: that game had nothing to do against the Texans, And
Speaker 1: so that they need to be an offense first team.
Speaker 1: I know that sounds weird, but they need to be
Speaker 1: better on offense. They haven't been. Let's see what happens
Speaker 1: on Jamal Charles. He did get on the field of
Speaker 1: this game. Uh one carry by the time we were
Speaker 1: midway through the fourth quarter here, So they're just we're
Speaker 1: easing them back in. I know they did they did
Speaker 1: damage without him last year, but I want to see
Speaker 1: how that goes. I think, you know, on the road
Speaker 1: Sunday night, Pittsburgh, Levy on Bell back Pittsburgh coming off
Speaker 1: an embarrassing loss, maybe on Bell big numbers, just like
Speaker 1: he always Yeah, he looked good. It just felt like
Speaker 1: a buzz saw and it reminded us. Okay, the Steelers
Speaker 1: had a bad week, but there's still the Steelers and
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. That's gonna always be a hard game, and
Speaker 1: the Chiefs just weren't up to it. That's why I
Speaker 1: saw this. So is it? It just feels like the league.
Speaker 1: This is something we were mentioning to each other that
Speaker 1: whatever happens in week three, week four has zero bearing
Speaker 1: almost on Week five outside of a couple of teams
Speaker 1: in the league that are fremely consistent. I mean, the results,
Speaker 1: the pendulum swing from one Sunday to the next is wild,
Speaker 1: completely unpredictable sport. So I never liked predicting. Like one game,
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, for a second, this this game and
Speaker 1: nothing else backed me out of thinking. Watching last week,
Speaker 1: I kind of was watching this chief team and I
Speaker 1: saw Tyreek Hill, who's really fun to watch, and then
Speaker 1: your boy Marcus Peters, who's really fun to watch. Eric
Speaker 1: Berry's come out of the gate swing and looking pretty
Speaker 1: good this year. Travis Kelsey's fun to watch. And I
Speaker 1: had this thought over the weekend, are the Chiefs actually
Speaker 1: fun to watch? And then here we go, Welcome to right,
Speaker 1: Welcome to Greg's weekend um and and poor Alan Chris.
Speaker 1: By the end of the third quarter, there they're connecting
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown to Arnold Palmer and then they're they're talking
Speaker 1: about Vince Scully. The great Dodgers announcer also announced the
Speaker 1: catch game. I mean they're emptying out their barrel for
Speaker 1: things to talk about, but such as life when when
Speaker 1: the game is uh this far out of reach, Well,
Speaker 1: this is where you make your money as a broadcaster,
Speaker 1: and I mean, you know, bad ones can't get through it.
Speaker 1: These two did a fair job and we won't need
Speaker 1: to find out if they continue to do it, because
Speaker 1: we're gonna stop watching it. With the much of the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter left, the conversation between Alan Chris was not
Speaker 1: nearly as meandering as the one in this podcast studio
Speaker 1: for the for the past hour. Uh yeah, okay, So
Speaker 1: that enough is enough. That is all of the Sunday action.
Speaker 1: There's one more game, a game I'm looking forward to,
Speaker 1: the New York Giants in Minnesota Vikings on Monday night.
Speaker 1: The next time you'll hear from us will be Tuesday,
Speaker 1: where we'll recap that game, preview the Thursday night affair
Speaker 1: between the Cardinals and Niners, and have some more fun.
Speaker 1: Uh like we always do. We have fun together. That's
Speaker 1: kind of what we do. That's one of our things.
Speaker 1: Fun together. Give us a good primetime game football gods
Speaker 1: they need with football needs it, right, Yeah, let's give
Speaker 1: the fans some some good primetime action. Hopefully it happens disappointmorrow. Um,
Speaker 1: and that's it for today's show. Yeah. Oh never mind,
Speaker 1: I think you're about to do it, I say, speaking
Speaker 1: of having fun together, yeah, I was gonna say. Um.
Speaker 1: One last note, my buddies made a movie, Flock of Dudes.
Speaker 1: You've probably seen me honking about it on Twitter, and
Speaker 1: I know the guys have also tweeted some things out.
Speaker 1: It's available on iTunes so you can check it out
Speaker 1: and also um in select theaters. So check out the
Speaker 1: Flock of Dudes on Twitter. Uh for any of the
Speaker 1: information on that. It's a good movie. Ten year drought
Speaker 1: of not going to theater to see this movie, and
Speaker 1: I was swiftly rewarded for it. Yes, it was a
Speaker 1: good movie. Eric Eric andre is in it. Just a
Speaker 1: great cast, Hannibal Burris, Jeff Ross all, all all the
Speaker 1: really good names in comedy. Clooney, isn't there for a
Speaker 1: couple of murders row comedy? Yeah? No, no, Clooney, Like
Speaker 1: we can get sued for that, but it's a funny movie.
Speaker 1: Go seeing find find words iTunes or in theaters. That's
Speaker 1: it for the Round the NFL Podcast of George. If
Speaker 1: you're just doing little podcasts, we don't need it. Maybe
Speaker 1: for us to get sued by like a massive movie star.
Speaker 1: Mr Flame's economics class takes a real billy, really big
Speaker 1: hit on that one. He's tied into this stuff, all right.
Speaker 1: That's it. This is Dan Hansis signing off for The
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, The Mailman, The Boss, and Lassid behind the
Speaker 1: Glass till Tuesday