Speaker 1: Mom Fannehill and he's got Stills, who's gonna take it
Speaker 1: seventy four yards for the touchdown. Dalton steps up away
Speaker 1: from the pressure and he goes to breed it's down
Speaker 1: there for the touchdown. There are Thursday nights where I
Speaker 1: just can't wait to talk about the football. There's too
Speaker 1: much to talk about, and we go on honking here
Speaker 1: for seven or eight minutes. I'm Greg Rosenthal with Chris Wesley,
Speaker 1: and this is not one of those nights. This is
Speaker 1: not one of those nights. Bengals win twenty two to seven.
Speaker 1: Even Jim Nance couldn't pretend that he liked this game
Speaker 1: until I just heard that highlight of the Kenny Stills
Speaker 1: touchdown bomb the last three and a half quarters of
Speaker 1: the game made me forget that the Dolphins ever held
Speaker 1: a lead in this game? Yeah, or uh really did
Speaker 1: anything positive offensively whatsoever. We're gonna talk about this Thursday
Speaker 1: night game, and then we're gonna get to the week
Speaker 1: for preview with Dan Hanss and Mark Sessler. A lot
Speaker 1: of fire on today's show was a good one, so
Speaker 1: so stick with that. But let's start with a j Green,
Speaker 1: because uh, he's the best player that played tonight and
Speaker 1: it's nice to see him lighting it up on the
Speaker 1: big stage. By the end of the third quarter, he
Speaker 1: had more yards I think a hundred and sixty six
Speaker 1: than the Dolphins entire offense had. He was beating Tony Lippett,
Speaker 1: who had taken the place of Byron Maxwell the bench
Speaker 1: Byron Maxwell and it didn't matter who they put on
Speaker 1: a J. Green. He was just having a field day.
Speaker 1: He was uncoverable. And I think Getty Dalton has played
Speaker 1: pretty well this year. Don't think he's the reason why
Speaker 1: they're one and two. I think you saw that tonight.
Speaker 1: He's been doing work. They're moving the ball pretty well.
Speaker 1: They did about what you would expected, but they've struggled
Speaker 1: in the red zone. They should have put this game
Speaker 1: away a lot earlier, but it ultimately didn't matter because
Speaker 1: their defense was just dominating. I mean the the Dolphins
Speaker 1: only had two drives out of eleven that went longer
Speaker 1: than four plays. I mean, they just could. They had
Speaker 1: five first downs. I think for the first nine drives
Speaker 1: of the game they were dysfunctionally. Reminded me of a
Speaker 1: mirror image of the Week one game, except this time
Speaker 1: Kenny still has caught his touchdown bomb, whereas the first
Speaker 1: game he missed it. But that game, by the end
Speaker 1: of the third quarter, their receivers had about ten yards
Speaker 1: on five catches. In this game at halftime, they had
Speaker 1: three completions and Kenny Still's accounted for all of their
Speaker 1: yards and really on just on one play. Adam Gaze
Speaker 1: through four weeks has made the Dolphins offense worse, does not.
Speaker 1: I expect it to get better, expected to get more exciting.
Speaker 1: This is the second game, including that Week one game,
Speaker 1: where they've been held under two and twenty five yards,
Speaker 1: which is not something you see in the NFL too
Speaker 1: often in the year two thousand and sixteen. So that's
Speaker 1: half their games. They said that, and Ryan dan Hill
Speaker 1: said after the game, this is one of the worst
Speaker 1: performances that he thinks they've had and or the worst
Speaker 1: performance they've had in a long time. And he says
Speaker 1: we're in a dark spot right now, channeling his Intercessler,
Speaker 1: They're downright dysfunctional. And some of that's on Tannehill because
Speaker 1: his shaky pocket presence came back to haunt him in
Speaker 1: a big way tonight. It's hard to separate him from
Speaker 1: the uh ineptitude surrounding him. When you see Carlos Dunlop
Speaker 1: just going right past Juan James at right tackle, you
Speaker 1: see Geno Atkins pushing your mom bush Rod and Billy
Speaker 1: Turner back into Ryan Tannehill. The Bengals defensive line dominated
Speaker 1: that matchup, and Tannehill really couldn't get out of his
Speaker 1: own way, literally on a couple of pins. Well, that's
Speaker 1: that's the thing with Tannehill. There's always reasons. It's always
Speaker 1: been a bad offensive life. But someday can he overcome
Speaker 1: those reasons. I think the rest of this season for
Speaker 1: the Dolphins is in large part about Ryan Tannehill trying
Speaker 1: to prove himself to Adam Gaze and to the Dolphins
Speaker 1: that he's the guy that of the future. And I
Speaker 1: don't think if things don't change that Adam Gaze will
Speaker 1: want him, that he'll want to draft a new quarterback
Speaker 1: or get a new quarterback because he doesn't want to
Speaker 1: put his whole career on this guy. We've seen him
Speaker 1: make some throws this this year. Yeah, the second half
Speaker 1: of the Patriots game, but you cannot have a quarterback
Speaker 1: who goes entire quarters and entire halves not moving the offense.
Speaker 1: You can't win that way. And they talked a lot
Speaker 1: about Okay, he can change the plays at the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, He's going to be able to dissect the defenses.
Speaker 1: That's not something he's known for so far. That's not
Speaker 1: going well. He's playing like a guy who's almost thinking
Speaker 1: too much. So this Dolphins defense hung in there, but
Speaker 1: ultimately this is a bad one in three team. I
Speaker 1: don't know if we really learn a ton about the
Speaker 1: Bengals other than they can dominate a bad opponent, and
Speaker 1: that's good. They got to two and two. We learned
Speaker 1: a couple of things. They miss Tyler Effort still in
Speaker 1: the red zone that I believe they got touchdowns on
Speaker 1: four of fourteen trips to the red zone, which is unacceptable.
Speaker 1: And they have not thrown a pass to a tight
Speaker 1: end in the red zone this year, so they really
Speaker 1: miss him. And then the running game has been ineffective
Speaker 1: for fifteen of sixteen quarters this year. The opening drive
Speaker 1: against the Broncos yards fifty of which came on one
Speaker 1: fifty yard run by Jeremy Hill. Those two Jeremy Hill
Speaker 1: and do you have do you have any Giovanni Bernard
Speaker 1: averaging three point four yards per carry, which you can't
Speaker 1: win that way. No, but they showed on defense that
Speaker 1: they can dominate a bad opponent and that's important. They
Speaker 1: move forward with with a two and two record. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins get to go home for four straight weeks.
Speaker 1: They don't go on the road until mid November, so
Speaker 1: that's a chance for them to get healthy. But I
Speaker 1: don't think they will if a lot more high hopes
Speaker 1: about the rest of the league being more entertaining than
Speaker 1: this game. So let's get to those good games. Let's
Speaker 1: send it over to Dan the Around the NFL Podcast
Speaker 1: rocks harder than Joe Philbin at a Genesis concert. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I'm joined by a
Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rosatal.
Speaker 1: What's up, boys, Hey, Dan? Hard to rock out when
Speaker 1: you're wearing courts, that is a tremendous money drop, And
Speaker 1: the idea of rocking out of the Genesis concert anyone
Speaker 1: is funny, But when it's Joe Filman doing it, that's
Speaker 1: the next level, especially coming from Dan today, who's dressed like, uh,
Speaker 1: like a cool dad, like a cool daddy his son
Speaker 1: at the school on his motorcycle. Let's go get some
Speaker 1: ice cream on the hog in my sidecar. Let's go,
Speaker 1: uh Bill Collins Genesis or Peter Gabriel Genesis. I don't
Speaker 1: recognize the Peter Gabriel Genesis personally interesting, Oh I go
Speaker 1: full Phil Collins. Um. This is the late Thursday edition
Speaker 1: of the Around the NFL podcast. Um A show. What
Speaker 1: you just listened to, by the way, was the recap
Speaker 1: of Thursday Night football Miami at Cincinnati, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: uh Wes and Greg did a great job with it,
Speaker 1: breaking down the first game of Week four in the
Speaker 1: Queen City. In the Queen City, so many queens at
Speaker 1: these uh, Charlotte, Buffalo, Cincinnati, so many, Cincinnati one of them.
Speaker 1: So a lot of games to get to today. Two
Speaker 1: teams on buy in Week four, the New York Giants
Speaker 1: and Philadelphia Eagles, but everybody else playing guys. And it
Speaker 1: is funny. Week four that is the quarter pole, Like
Speaker 1: we're already about to hit the quarter pole of the season,
Speaker 1: which also means and I'm almost afraid to look at them,
Speaker 1: but maybe they won't be so bad. We have to
Speaker 1: re examine our preseason power poll and then do our
Speaker 1: second round of voting. Well, we are doing that. I
Speaker 1: was told by um my new boss David Really that
Speaker 1: I will be authoring the kind of recap for that
Speaker 1: next week. How how are things going with uh you guys,
Speaker 1: the Kissing Cousins and David Eally just wonderful night. We
Speaker 1: had a big meeting with him in a few shadowy
Speaker 1: league figures yesterday morning. I thought it went well. Was
Speaker 1: it a come to Jesus meeting for really? No, it was.
Speaker 1: There weren't no religious figures involved. It was small matters.
Speaker 1: But he you know, he'll drop a hammer now and
Speaker 1: then he'll surprise you with the hammer drop. Really has
Speaker 1: been very fair minded all along. All right, that's great.
Speaker 1: I know you wanted more controversy there. This is bad
Speaker 1: for the show. Yeah, I gotta talk to Ili about that.
Speaker 1: We gotta shake things up a little bit. Uh So, Yes,
Speaker 1: a lot of games to get to and um let's
Speaker 1: do it. In fact, I do want to say before
Speaker 1: we start, I haven't done this in a while, but
Speaker 1: a lot of things clicking right now because behind the
Speaker 1: glass is La Side, who is taking taking the chair
Speaker 1: in a more full time capacity now that the irishman
Speaker 1: uh is no longer in the studio. Sadly um but
Speaker 1: said this has to be you know, a little bit
Speaker 1: exciting for you. Big chair now full, but I'm ready
Speaker 1: to get back in the swing. You know. You hear
Speaker 1: that voice though, you said only a little bitter sweet,
Speaker 1: like it's mostly sweets at that tiny little bit better,
Speaker 1: but you're you're partying in the streets. Maybe a little
Speaker 1: partying in the streets. Heard from her fellow staff back
Speaker 1: there that she's she runs a tight ship and you know,
Speaker 1: sweet on the surface, but not afraid to mix it
Speaker 1: up and give out orders and delegate. I like it.
Speaker 1: So anyway, so Sydney's back Irish, just downstairs helping out
Speaker 1: one last day before he goes on to the next step,
Speaker 1: whatever that may be. Of course, we have our our
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Speaker 1: so that's great, and a great slate of games, including
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Speaker 1: up a lot and then you ended with the B minus.
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Speaker 1: report card with B minus is on it, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna get unless you're in one of those is. This
Speaker 1: explains a lot about you. Guys are outing yourselves as
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Speaker 1: some of my other brothers came home with a B minus,
Speaker 1: it was just fine and dandy. Wow. With a bunch
Speaker 1: of geniuses in this room, I don't know how I
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Speaker 1: NFL family. Let's start with the previews, folks, and the
Speaker 1: first game we're gonna talk about the Indianapolis Colts at
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, a game that Colts team that got
Speaker 1: the big win they needed at home against the Chargers
Speaker 1: last week. And then you got the Jaguars, who we
Speaker 1: forked in our last show. So I don't even I
Speaker 1: guess it would. It would qualify as a starving dog game.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars are oh and three. History tells us they're dead.
Speaker 1: That history tells us they're dead. They're a dead dog
Speaker 1: according to you. I don't think they're necessarily dead. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know he's stuck a fork in then, but do
Speaker 1: you understand the segment we did on the last He
Speaker 1: stuck a fork in three teams last year, including the
Speaker 1: entire AFC South except for the Colt So I need
Speaker 1: to accept their dead. If you voted to for it
Speaker 1: means nothing to you that it doesn't because J. J.
Speaker 1: Watt is not coming back this season. The Texans are
Speaker 1: a flowed team. It's a flowed division. You never know
Speaker 1: what could happen. That's all you got. You undermined our
Speaker 1: segment from the other day, and that's all you got.
Speaker 1: Let me jump in and say the Jaguars quarterback is broken.
Speaker 1: He has a long hitch in his delivery. He's playing
Speaker 1: like he did as a rookie. His footwork is a mess.
Speaker 1: He's kicking his back leg out like a baseball pitcher.
Speaker 1: It's a long wind up and this is why he's struggling.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's fixable, fixable in the near future.
Speaker 1: And I think that the other quarterback, Andrew Luck was
Speaker 1: absolutely spectacular in his ball placement and pocket movement last week.
Speaker 1: Do you think that it's a coaching thing with Bortles,
Speaker 1: because I almost want to go too. Before his head
Speaker 1: was filled with a bunch of nonsense and he was
Speaker 1: kind of just on fire plane in preseason number one
Speaker 1: and just using his physical gifts, he seems something is
Speaker 1: not right, and I look at the coaching staff. He's regress.
Speaker 1: It's not just physically, it's his decision making has been bad.
Speaker 1: But this is the same problem that hounded him as
Speaker 1: a rookie. It was the book on him coming out
Speaker 1: of school that he had to tweak his delivery. He
Speaker 1: did with Jordan Palmer before his rookie year. It regressed
Speaker 1: during his rookie year, then he worked with Tom House
Speaker 1: to fix it last offseason. He fixed it last off season,
Speaker 1: and now he's regressed again. But to me, his biggest
Speaker 1: problem and his accuracy is a is a big problem,
Speaker 1: but his number one problem is reading coverages and going
Speaker 1: through his reads, and defense is taking things away from him.
Speaker 1: He he had eleven passes defense in that game. It's
Speaker 1: it's not just the reads. It's because his delivery is
Speaker 1: so long that the cornerbacks are obviously going to get
Speaker 1: to more balls and deflect them. But when the delivery
Speaker 1: takes that long, so many of them though we're linebackers
Speaker 1: underneath that he never saw he could have had five
Speaker 1: or six interceptions last week and this game. I'm looking
Speaker 1: forward to this game. I know they're not two great
Speaker 1: teams right now, but Luck and Bordles to me, are
Speaker 1: two of the biggest quarterback stories of this season. Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck's chance to reascend and show us, even though there's
Speaker 1: a bad team around him, that he's a top two
Speaker 1: or three type of quarterback and he's had two incredible games.
Speaker 1: And then Blake Bortles, I think having to stretch that
Speaker 1: we haven't seen him be this bad since early in
Speaker 1: his rookie year and making everyone wonder is he the
Speaker 1: future in Jacksonville? Those are two big stories. Clydie in
Speaker 1: this game, I got to agree I think it's a
Speaker 1: big deal that Miles jack has played sixteen snaps, uh,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, you want to see him out
Speaker 1: on the field more. But I look at Jalen Ramsey
Speaker 1: three games this season. Jalen Ramsey to me is one
Speaker 1: of the most interesting players to watch on game pass.
Speaker 1: He is fascinating and they found a star player. I
Speaker 1: think I believe Pro Football Focus has him for the
Speaker 1: stingiest cornerback in terms of yards per route run this season.
Speaker 1: Every the're back in the NFL, he's the stingiest. He's physical, man,
Speaker 1: he just like away from the player, just knocked someone
Speaker 1: on the ground, Like I kind of wanted to. I
Speaker 1: wrote an article this week about some of the worst
Speaker 1: offseason pickups and I kind of wanted to get after
Speaker 1: the Jaguars all their moves not working out. And then
Speaker 1: I looked at it and I thought about it, and
Speaker 1: you know, Chris Ivory is not working out so far.
Speaker 1: I didn't like that late last game they got very
Speaker 1: conservative and ran the ball early and Ivory is not playing.
Speaker 1: But he's only played one game. Lick Jackson's been fine,
Speaker 1: He's been Tomorrow has been fine. There you know, Dante
Speaker 1: Fowler Ramsey. They they're fine. It's portals. It's the it's portals,
Speaker 1: Robinson hearns that's what's killed. Defense was not the big
Speaker 1: problem in the Ravens game. Who is this that Bortles
Speaker 1: in year? What is the three is regressing at this
Speaker 1: level again? And what about the head coach who's got
Speaker 1: a two thirty five winning percentage in the league that
Speaker 1: there's got to be changes coming if this is what
Speaker 1: the season is going to be coming. Well, the defense
Speaker 1: hasn't been great either, and that's Gus Bradley's job. But
Speaker 1: I don't know that I can blame coaches for a
Speaker 1: mechanical issue. That's something that usually gets fixed in and
Speaker 1: off season, not during the season. One last note on
Speaker 1: this game the Colts. Obviously this game is being played
Speaker 1: in London. They are the first team ever in the
Speaker 1: International Series to not have a bye the next week.
Speaker 1: That seems like kind of a tough turnaround. I think
Speaker 1: they chose it. They did. I think they they didn't
Speaker 1: want to buy and so they requested not to have it.
Speaker 1: They wanted one later in the season. Uh, let's move on,
Speaker 1: gentlemen and talk about UH some more. A f C
Speaker 1: South action the Tennessee Titoons, a former team of a
Speaker 1: t L nominee, travel to Houston to face the Texans,
Speaker 1: and Greg as you said, Um J. J. Watt is
Speaker 1: not going to be around in this game. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna be around perhaps for the entire uh duration of
Speaker 1: this season after his back injury returned and the team
Speaker 1: obviously he's gonna probably be really safe considering how scary
Speaker 1: back injuries can be. The Houston Texans, what are they
Speaker 1: gonna do now without their man? Well there they have
Speaker 1: a high a lower ceiling and they are gonna rely
Speaker 1: on their defense to be a top ten defense without J. J. Watt.
Speaker 1: Is that possible? I think it is. Uh they have
Speaker 1: been so far this season. They really haven't had J. J. Watt.
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't play well against the Patriots overall.
Speaker 1: But you have Jedevian Clowney, you have John Simon plaining all,
Speaker 1: you have merciless, you have a good secondary. But I
Speaker 1: think with Brock Oswiler and the offense that they had
Speaker 1: the last ranked offense in the NFL by the way,
Speaker 1: according to Football Outsiders Metrics three touchdown drives so far
Speaker 1: this season, they needed that defense to be dominant to
Speaker 1: have a chance to be a real contender, and I
Speaker 1: think without what they don't have that chance. I agree.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're in the Patriots League or the
Speaker 1: Broncos League, but they can still be the class of
Speaker 1: the a f C South. That's this defense is still
Speaker 1: easily the best defense in the division. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: the biggest thing that happened for the Texans was, oh,
Speaker 1: suddenly we're gonna get put into an a f C
Speaker 1: South according to the offseason hype, where everyone's competitive. You've
Speaker 1: got four young quarterbacks devastating each other week after week.
Speaker 1: But it's not panned out. The Titans and the Jaguars
Speaker 1: are still bottom feeding this point for the most part,
Speaker 1: and the Texans are dealing with the Cults team that's
Speaker 1: very beatable. I mean, the Texans can do we did
Speaker 1: last year, go nine and seven and win the division.
Speaker 1: That and that. That's true, and that's all on paper,
Speaker 1: and I agree with it. And yet the Titans, you know,
Speaker 1: they're one couple of lucky bounces away here from tying
Speaker 1: the Texans up at two and two if they can
Speaker 1: win this game. The Titans are among the most disappointing
Speaker 1: teams in the league. So far, though, I mean Mariota
Speaker 1: is another one of those big quarterback stories. I never
Speaker 1: would have expected that. So far, I would say Mariota
Speaker 1: and Borders are two of the worst four quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: the league only through three games, but I would say
Speaker 1: that those two Gather and Keenum are probably the good.
Speaker 1: The Titans offense get figured out in two quarters and
Speaker 1: everyone's got the book on him at this point. On
Speaker 1: the on the other side, I wanna say brock Oswiler
Speaker 1: needs have a bounce back game because that wasn't all
Speaker 1: his fault what happened in New England. That was kind
Speaker 1: of a complete team breakdown, and and the fact that
Speaker 1: they were not competitive, but their offense was just depressingly bad.
Speaker 1: They couldn't even like sniff the red zone. So if
Speaker 1: I want to see a guy again, they paid him
Speaker 1: a lot of money, uh, not to be a game manager,
Speaker 1: but a guy that made that offense explosive. Their offense
Speaker 1: is gonna have to be much better now because J. J.
Speaker 1: Watt can't carry the team like he's done in the past.
Speaker 1: What are you seen on tape? Greg? They need some
Speaker 1: more underneath throws that that's one thing they don't have
Speaker 1: any intermediate game, everything's just throw a deep. You know,
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller, they could use a little more out of him.
Speaker 1: I mean it's probably the offensive line, but the offensive
Speaker 1: linea the running game is not really much better with
Speaker 1: Lamar Miller. I mean, he's getting the ball a lot,
Speaker 1: but they're not a good running They're not opening holes
Speaker 1: for Lamar Miller. The offensive line hasn't played well. Let's
Speaker 1: move on, gentlemen, and talk about the Cleveland Browns and
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins. Redskins got that much needed win at
Speaker 1: the meadow Lands in Week three to get get in
Speaker 1: the win column. The Browns, of course, have yet to
Speaker 1: win a game. They will again, uh start Cody Kessler
Speaker 1: at quarterback and a Redskins team that you would think
Speaker 1: is in good position to move to five under. But
Speaker 1: Mark Sesler, not only do you think that the Redskins
Speaker 1: are going to struggle, you think the Browns again and
Speaker 1: the wind calmed, don't you. It's my lock of the
Speaker 1: week of the week up. I'm going out out there
Speaker 1: because I already put it out on Twitter. I'm getting
Speaker 1: killed by from the Nation's Capital. I don't care. I
Speaker 1: really think that there's a chance for this I see
Speaker 1: one thing that could completely dissolve my lock of the week.
Speaker 1: Not a chance, Mark, you said it's a lock, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean happening. A lock coming from me is one
Speaker 1: and one. So it's a coin flip at this point
Speaker 1: going into the season. Yeah. So, I I think though
Speaker 1: watching the Redskins, there's a lot of things they don't
Speaker 1: do well. But you look at Cleveland, there's a chance
Speaker 1: Joe Hayd and Johana is not healthy again and we
Speaker 1: don't know what is availability will be, how much he'll play.
Speaker 1: You look at de Sean Jackson and Jamison Crowder and
Speaker 1: what they can do in that offense, that passing game,
Speaker 1: they could carve Cleveland's secondary right up, and that could be,
Speaker 1: you know, the game to get out of control real quick.
Speaker 1: On the flip side, though, watching what New York did
Speaker 1: to the Redskins, I think that you know in the
Speaker 1: way the way that Cleveland that you've got Cody Kessler,
Speaker 1: who is a very limited skill set, but he completed passes,
Speaker 1: some mid midrange passes last week. You can get real
Speaker 1: estate on this Redskins defense. You can also run on them.
Speaker 1: So I I do see a game where Cleveland's gonna
Speaker 1: have a chance to stick around and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Turnovers could decide. The Browns had four and thirty yards
Speaker 1: of total offense in Week three, pent points on the board.
Speaker 1: Terrell Prior and who we talked about earlier this week,
Speaker 1: is a guy that Hugh Jackson obviously is doing a
Speaker 1: very nice job of using him in a lot of
Speaker 1: different ways, keeping that offense unpredictable. So you're I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: Mark for you to lock this up. You like that
Speaker 1: they're playing hard, You've talked about that, and you think
Speaker 1: that their offense can do things against the middle in
Speaker 1: Washington D I think you're gonna tell you the game,
Speaker 1: you're gonna need to coax Kirk Cousins into some Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousin E type mistakes. I'm not listen. I understand when
Speaker 1: I say this. I'm not saying that logically Cleveland is
Speaker 1: going to go in and take down the Redskins. I'm
Speaker 1: just swinging for the fences. I know you were really
Speaker 1: impressed with the Browns effort last week. I saw a
Speaker 1: lot of mis tackles. Well they have that. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are they got players that weren't in the legue
Speaker 1: last year that you know that didn't happen, But I
Speaker 1: don't know if the Browns can hang with the Redskins firepower.
Speaker 1: The Redskins are one of only two teams to have
Speaker 1: three seventy five yards in every game so far. And
Speaker 1: when you watch k Y, especially the first two, they're
Speaker 1: moving the offense. And when you watch Kirk Cousins play,
Speaker 1: he's protected. He's got time to sit back and pick
Speaker 1: defenses apart, and Cleveland does not. They don't have Karl Nassa,
Speaker 1: they don't have a volunteer, they don't have a pass rust.
Speaker 1: The defense is a concern, but this is a vulnerable
Speaker 1: Redskins team that was lucky to win against the Giants.
Speaker 1: It really took turnovers in that game. They've they've been
Speaker 1: bad in the red zone. Their offensive line is is
Speaker 1: shaken up enough that they might play Trent Williams, who's
Speaker 1: an All Pro at left guard. They're missing at least
Speaker 1: two of their starters in their secondary, with Brisha Brelan
Speaker 1: expected to miss this game D'Angelo Hill halls out for
Speaker 1: the year. It's a it's a banged up Redskins team too.
Speaker 1: And I watched this Browns team and you know all
Speaker 1: this Mark Sessler optimism. I think there's a reason for it.
Speaker 1: That was the most fun Browns game I've watched it,
Speaker 1: and Cody Kesler deserves some credit. He played well and
Speaker 1: if the Patriots pulled off that performance with a rookie quarterback,
Speaker 1: people would be, you know, having a parade for the
Speaker 1: coaching job. Hugh Jackson did an incredible coaching job, playing
Speaker 1: to you know, his limitations Kessler, and he didn't make
Speaker 1: mistakes and there's a couple of times where I thought
Speaker 1: he made some smart decisions. Not a big army. The
Speaker 1: one issue is you're not going to be able to
Speaker 1: surprise them with the two quarterback situation this week. Now
Speaker 1: it's out there and you know, get the bottle. Duke
Speaker 1: Johnson some more. He did it when he went to
Speaker 1: his home in Miami and look at what he performed,
Speaker 1: got some interesting weapons. I think Terrell Pryor is a guy.
Speaker 1: Now you have to start counting on him as a
Speaker 1: nucleus player. He said he's one of the best athletes.
Speaker 1: He believes he's the best athlete on the field each week,
Speaker 1: and then watching him last week's like he I believed this.
Speaker 1: I know we want to move on, but this is
Speaker 1: a guy we mocked for how much we used to
Speaker 1: write about. He was kind of a punch line. Even
Speaker 1: as recently as three weeks ago he said all he
Speaker 1: could do was go deep. This guy is one of
Speaker 1: the most exciting players in the league right now. Give
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson the credit. He had him in Cincinnati and
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Speaker 1: and one football team travel to the Meadowlands to face
Speaker 1: the New York Jets. Uh interesting game here. The Jets
Speaker 1: obviously got embarrassed in Kansas City in week three, Ryan
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick the Fits Apocalypse, six interception game and three loss.
Speaker 1: Now they limp home at one and two, needing this
Speaker 1: win win badly. But you know who else is a
Speaker 1: limping gentleman Russell Wilson who suffered a knee injury in
Speaker 1: week three. It looks like all indications are he's gonna play,
Speaker 1: he's practicing, We're hearing all the things you you would
Speaker 1: expect to hear out of Seattle. But you have to
Speaker 1: wonder what kind of Russell Wilson we're gonna see here,
Speaker 1: And you also have to wonder how he will fare.
Speaker 1: And I'm taking nothing away from Russell Wilson, who's a
Speaker 1: tremendous quarterback, but a guy on bad legs against the
Speaker 1: Jets defensive line playing at home with a bad taste
Speaker 1: in their mouth after a terrible loss in Week three,
Speaker 1: and a Jets team that needs a game and you
Speaker 1: hear to my voice. Just like Mark's optimistic about his
Speaker 1: Star Cress Star Cross franchise, I too am optimistic. How
Speaker 1: optimistic I'm making the New York Jets my lock of
Speaker 1: the week terrible news for Cleveland and New York. And Uh,
Speaker 1: some people was like, oh, Dan, you made Cincinnati your
Speaker 1: Lock of the week, and then I rethought it after
Speaker 1: the show, So that's kind of cheating. Uh, Cincinnati's much
Speaker 1: better team than Miami. Let's let's be heavy favorite, Let's
Speaker 1: lock it up. Let's lock it up petition to change
Speaker 1: the name of this lock it Up segment to wish
Speaker 1: cast of the week might as well have it. Since
Speaker 1: we don't know it's great happen, you might as well
Speaker 1: have it. So that's fair West. I will throw it
Speaker 1: out to what I the way I explained it in
Speaker 1: my mindset, and also under the impression that I don't
Speaker 1: think the Jets are bad. That's by being one in
Speaker 1: two and looking really bad last week. That's not a
Speaker 1: crazy thought that they could win at home. I'm not
Speaker 1: a bad day that. I don't think there's a coincidence
Speaker 1: that the locks of the week so far have been
Speaker 1: the Browns and the Jets. Well, we're fans. Yeah, here's
Speaker 1: what it is. Also, it's the nature of lock though.
Speaker 1: That's fair, but west It's also the last couple of days.
Speaker 1: If this doesn't happen, if the Jets and Browns go
Speaker 1: down in two giant house fires, you're not gonna get
Speaker 1: any more Browns and Jets locks of the week. This
Speaker 1: is this is It's the end of September. Hope begins
Speaker 1: to This is such a tough game to predict, though
Speaker 1: to me, the Jets from the first three weeks were
Speaker 1: so impressive. I mean, the first two weeks, I'm almost
Speaker 1: willing to throw away that fits Apocalypse game is just
Speaker 1: a strange, strange game. But this is the ultimate test
Speaker 1: for any offense. Because I love the way the Seax
Speaker 1: defense is playing. I think it's gonna be an ugly
Speaker 1: low scoring game. This is the game more than any
Speaker 1: other that I just throw my hands up. And that's
Speaker 1: why I'm making it my unlock of the week. That
Speaker 1: is the most greg thing ever. Hey, can I just say,
Speaker 1: since you brought up throw out the game, you know
Speaker 1: a little team up the Old Coastline in the United
Speaker 1: States that a couple of years ago had a game
Speaker 1: that you just threw out. It happened to happen in
Speaker 1: Kansas City on the road those New England Patriots and
Speaker 1: what happened to the Pats team, and I went all
Speaker 1: the way after their apocalypse scenario in Kansas City. Get
Speaker 1: excited Jets, so onto Florham Park. The Jets are saying,
Speaker 1: I like that this is a good matchup because I
Speaker 1: think what Seattle is doing st right now is opening
Speaker 1: holes for Christian Michael, letting him run through it. And
Speaker 1: the Jets defense, the run defense is a strength there,
Speaker 1: So I think that's that probably advantage Jets on that one.
Speaker 1: I would think considering the Seahawks offensive line troubles and
Speaker 1: I never want to talk about the Ryan Fitzpatrick sixth
Speaker 1: interception game again, but I will say this one other aspect.
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters in a good Kansas City defense at home.
Speaker 1: Eric Decker hurt his shoulder again in that game. Brandon
Speaker 1: Marshall wasn't close. They were kind of behind the eight
Speaker 1: ball without a lot of people knowing might not play
Speaker 1: this week. That's a big big marsh I don't know.
Speaker 1: I get a nice soft matchup against Seattle's you know,
Speaker 1: kind of wayward secondary every time you look up. So
Speaker 1: he had always a new defensive star. Frank Clark is
Speaker 1: playing lights out. You just made that Frank Clark second
Speaker 1: round draft picked from last year. Deshun Shed is turning
Speaker 1: into a top cornerback. This defense is once again better
Speaker 1: this year than he did. You know, and we talk
Speaker 1: about you, your Gus Bradley. You f that system. You
Speaker 1: should know how that system operates. You go to another
Speaker 1: team and players are not developing across on both sides
Speaker 1: of the ball. In Seattle, it's one gym, one unearthed
Speaker 1: guy after the next. Am I on an island by
Speaker 1: the way with the Jets here, it's okay. I think
Speaker 1: it's a coin flip game. No, I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: so big that it's in New York. It's my unlock
Speaker 1: of the week. Oh now it makes sense moving on,
Speaker 1: uh team that had its back against the wall in
Speaker 1: Week three where the Buffalo Bills they got the big
Speaker 1: win at home against the Arizona Cardinals, and now they
Speaker 1: got an even bigger task because now they got to
Speaker 1: go up to New England to face the New England
Speaker 1: Patriots who are three and oh, I don't know if
Speaker 1: anyone has been talking about this with their um assortment
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks not named Tom Brady. All indications greg that
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is starting. It's up in the air. It's Patriots,
Speaker 1: I would guess that, but they were waiting to see
Speaker 1: how he responded after increasing his work at practice Wednesday.
Speaker 1: There's some mixed reports on how that went. And Rex
Speaker 1: Ryan is having his fun with this week. But then
Speaker 1: you just have to look at history and this doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: But I just want to point out that the Patriots
Speaker 1: have won three of the last twenty five games against
Speaker 1: the Bills by an average score of thirty one sixteen.
Speaker 1: So no team owns the Bills like the Pats. And
Speaker 1: now they get him at home and here comes Rex
Speaker 1: Ryan with his weirdo Bill Belichick obsession. Why does this
Speaker 1: happen every time? It's so weird? Can I I will
Speaker 1: throw as a certified expert. I think he might realize
Speaker 1: he might not have too many of these left. It
Speaker 1: could be the last time he ever gets to be
Speaker 1: a contemporary with Belichick talking about us. Well, they're coaching
Speaker 1: together at the same time. Okay, no matter who, no
Speaker 1: matter who plays quarterback for the Patriots, this is a
Speaker 1: Lagarry Blunt game. The Patriots are the only team in
Speaker 1: the NFL with more than one yard rusher this season.
Speaker 1: Garret Blunt's leading the NFL and rushing wild and I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna get twenty carries again in this game.
Speaker 1: Has been a great draft pick for them, Yes, a
Speaker 1: great uh. Nate Solder return healthy, looking good. The last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks has been under the radar. They're getting
Speaker 1: big time contributions from their off season pickups like Chris
Speaker 1: Long and Chris Hogan, Hogan and Martellis Bennett. You hopefully
Speaker 1: get Gronk back looking like Gronk this week. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that are trending pretty well for the page.
Speaker 1: Are you worried? You know, Greg, as a Patriots fan,
Speaker 1: does this game concern you more or less than any
Speaker 1: other game the Patriots have? Well, I don't say that
Speaker 1: that sounded very pat but I would say this that
Speaker 1: in theory, like the Bills, Rex Ryan are all fired up.
Speaker 1: This is kind of the last stand here before you
Speaker 1: know the whole the whole thing burns down in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: Potentially you're concerned, no, because it's relatively no. Because Sammy
Speaker 1: Watkins is looking unlikely to play. This has a chance
Speaker 1: to be really good, and this happened so far. This
Speaker 1: is an offense that you should be able to come here.
Speaker 1: It's limited. Here's the case for the Bills hanging in
Speaker 1: this game. West. I know you said it was more
Speaker 1: a breakdown of the Cardinals, but I'm gonna give Bills
Speaker 1: credit for taking care of business in week three. So
Speaker 1: they're coming off a game where they kicked some masks.
Speaker 1: They got a little bit of a swagger off that
Speaker 1: I think, and the Rex Ryan defense were just playing
Speaker 1: well with a lot of no names. Uh maybe Jemmy
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo at less or even Jake Brisket at less
Speaker 1: at less than they struggle against the Rex defense, I
Speaker 1: will say, I mean, yeah, that's true. Tell me if
Speaker 1: anyone saw something different. But the Bills and I get
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, you know, traveling in these coasts not a
Speaker 1: prime situation for them. They got beaten up on both
Speaker 1: Buffalo beat them up on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1: I don't think a lot of people saw that coming.
Speaker 1: So can that translate? That's the question. If if Jacoby
Speaker 1: Brissette is starting and it's it's not, that's a huge difference.
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't buy the notions. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: either one you gotta be ready for. There's a big difference.
Speaker 1: Tell the Texans that a huge different. He's a very
Speaker 1: limited player. He was a lot more limited for that game.
Speaker 1: I guess you could say that Cody Kessler was for
Speaker 1: the Browns for instance. You gotta win with defense, and
Speaker 1: in the Texans played into their hands. Garoppolos Week two
Speaker 1: game is one of the best games I've seen by
Speaker 1: a quarterback this year. Moving on, gentlemen, let's move over
Speaker 1: to the NFC where the Carolina Panthers are traveling to
Speaker 1: Atlanta and Uh, some things that should surprise you. Again,
Speaker 1: we know nothing a month after the season begins. Uh,
Speaker 1: you would never predict this. One team is two and one,
Speaker 1: one teams one and two. It's the Falcons that have
Speaker 1: the winning record. The team with the number one offense
Speaker 1: in the league in this game is also the Falcons. Uh,
Speaker 1: so you put those things together. The Carolina Panthers, if
Speaker 1: they have any designs on, um, you know, having a
Speaker 1: home game in the playoffs, if they have any designs
Speaker 1: on having a buy uh, they have to start winning
Speaker 1: football games. And the Falcons are not going to be
Speaker 1: such a big pushover Mark No. I think we I
Speaker 1: think this is the best offense, not yet. I get
Speaker 1: it's the number one offense in the NFL that in
Speaker 1: early season that can go, that can be read wrong
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, right, But this is the best
Speaker 1: offense that that Carolina has faced this season, I think.
Speaker 1: And it's it's it's on that turf in Atlanta, and
Speaker 1: you know, I think the Panthers. Here's the problem for Atlanta.
Speaker 1: The Panthers have to be very irritated after what happened
Speaker 1: last week. This is a team with a lot of pride,
Speaker 1: and you have Kelvin Benjamin that was held catchless and
Speaker 1: also prevented a touchdown with a big penalty last week
Speaker 1: as well. So I think the Panthers gonna try to
Speaker 1: get Kelvin Benjaman back involved in this game. There's not
Speaker 1: a lot of pass rush coming from Atlanta. Cam Newton
Speaker 1: should be mostly able to roam and and and and
Speaker 1: pass the ball untouched. I think this matter. This could
Speaker 1: be a big shootout, is what what it could be. Well,
Speaker 1: you we've seen the Panthers losses were against the Vikings
Speaker 1: and Broncos, who may have the two most athletic pressuring
Speaker 1: front seven's in the NFL. And now you go against
Speaker 1: the Falcons, who have the worst pass rush in the
Speaker 1: NFL perennially. But this is a Panther's offense that Mrs
Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewart, when it's not out there that is waiting
Speaker 1: for Devin Funch just to matter at all. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a it. I wouldn't say it's a limited off
Speaker 1: fence because it's got Cam Newton and it's probably the
Speaker 1: toughest run game in the league to prepare for. But
Speaker 1: if you're just but if you just have to take
Speaker 1: away Benjamin and Newton. I like Whittaker more. I like
Speaker 1: Fuzzy Whittaker more than you do. I guess I thought
Speaker 1: he's been a he's a change of pace guy. Though
Speaker 1: you don't want him running. If he stepped in and
Speaker 1: done a good job, fine, they started Cameron artist pain
Speaker 1: last week. He got more of the artist painter, artist painter.
Speaker 1: He's fine. This isn't a gimme game, though. This is
Speaker 1: a division game. The Falcons. You know, in case we
Speaker 1: forget forget about getting over last week, how about getting
Speaker 1: over last season? They ended the Panther season in this
Speaker 1: exact game, in this exact same stage, but they didn't
Speaker 1: end their season well and their undefeated season and rather
Speaker 1: missing a keyword there, it would have been weird if
Speaker 1: their season just ended there in weekif would have been
Speaker 1: fourteen one been nice, guys, We're going to have the
Speaker 1: playoffs without you. That's next year. Yeah, that's college. You're
Speaker 1: exactly right. We've gotten we've all gotten so used to
Speaker 1: how good Luke Keikle is that it's almost you just expected.
Speaker 1: But how hottie at this point he he could be
Speaker 1: in the mix for Defensive Player of the Year for
Speaker 1: through three weeks. Well, it's wide open. Unbelievable through three weeks,
Speaker 1: is right? Why nobody's it's anybody's awarded about von Miller? Please?
Speaker 1: Von Miller would have to be the favorite so far.
Speaker 1: What about Sid? You have some Sandwiches involved with a
Speaker 1: pass rusher in Detroit, don't you? I do. And he's
Speaker 1: very much on the bench with an injury right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he hasn't played, but like, what a year because J. J.
Speaker 1: Watts also hurt, so it would have been it would
Speaker 1: have been the year. Listen, he can get back on
Speaker 1: the field and get hot. Don't give up yet. But
Speaker 1: I also it's done saving up some money. It was
Speaker 1: a good sandwich bet at the time. It's crumbled, very
Speaker 1: bad position. I'm gonna say, like him, he's Ziggianta. We're
Speaker 1: talking about expected to miss another game. You know, no
Speaker 1: sacks through four weeks of the season. You're you're in
Speaker 1: trouble here. You're hurting, you definitely hurtlest Like he's Kalil
Speaker 1: mac where. Yeah, what's going on with Khalil Oh? It's
Speaker 1: the whole defense. Come on, But isn't he a superstar? Well, well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about him right now. Because the Oakland Raiders
Speaker 1: at two and one, yes one of the remaining UH
Speaker 1: team of around the NFL finalists, they now travel to Baltimore.
Speaker 1: I love this. This is what I want. I need
Speaker 1: a little more internal support, of course. I have my girl,
Speaker 1: little deb up North supporting the Raiders as the team
Speaker 1: of a t L. She reps Oakland Oaktown. That's how
Speaker 1: they say it up there. They never said that, Okay, uh,
Speaker 1: But now they go on the road to play Baltimore
Speaker 1: three and oh. Not a dominant Ravens team obviously, but
Speaker 1: I love it. I like the idea of the Raiders
Speaker 1: cementing themselves as a real team to take seriously in
Speaker 1: the team of a t L by knocking off an
Speaker 1: undefeated team in their house. Am I crazy marked to
Speaker 1: think that the Raiders can move on to three and
Speaker 1: one here? Not at all? Why would that be crazy?
Speaker 1: Teams beat teams all the time on Sunday's end of
Speaker 1: my analysis, anybody else I've I've enjoyed watching this Raiders
Speaker 1: team when I when I went back and watch that
Speaker 1: Titan game, I started thinking, you know, the Raiders aren't
Speaker 1: such a crazy idea. I mean, if we could get
Speaker 1: little Debbie to drop some hot bars, you know, from
Speaker 1: the Raiders, I'm saying I'm with it. I like this.
Speaker 1: I would like this. Uh backfield, I like DeAndre Washington.
Speaker 1: I have a nice three head, Alon Richard. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, Derek Carr has looked you talk about Blake
Speaker 1: Bortles regressing. Derek carrs starting to do all these things
Speaker 1: where all these heady comparisons they're throwing at young quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: some of them are starting to make sense With Derek Carr,
Speaker 1: especially with the footwork which you pointed out on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Watch that game. The exact play that you pointed out
Speaker 1: is a fascinating play by Derek Carr. Yeah, so elusive.
Speaker 1: And then you've got Ravens defense that has been pretty
Speaker 1: good at pressuring quarterbacks at least manure manufacturing pressure. And
Speaker 1: Timmy Joern again is having a breakout season on their
Speaker 1: defensive line. Yeah, he he looks good. And Connor or
Speaker 1: his brothers Zach or not brothers actually Greg. I still
Speaker 1: think he's an upgrade on Darryl Smith at that spot.
Speaker 1: Here's an upgrade on the counter or nobody's enough great
Speaker 1: on I mean that is definitely the second least athletic
Speaker 1: guy in the family. Connor's taken back blog post at
Speaker 1: four am on the West Coast. No, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: no hard no. What you mentioned Car. The one thing
Speaker 1: with him you kind of know what you're getting each
Speaker 1: week now. I mean, he's steady. He's not to me,
Speaker 1: the most exciting guy to watch, but he's very consistent.
Speaker 1: He's what you want out of a course. Well, and
Speaker 1: Michael Crowdtree is balling out too. I mean it's not
Speaker 1: it's not the Michael Crowdtree getting back into health. We
Speaker 1: saw it some last year. But he looked good to
Speaker 1: me last week This is what you all you need
Speaker 1: to know. You don't have to go crazy about Derek
Speaker 1: Carrs being one of the best young quarterbacks in the league.
Speaker 1: But Oakland has the number two offense in the league
Speaker 1: right now, thirty six yards a game. Now they have
Speaker 1: the number thirty two defense. That's the biggest problem. They
Speaker 1: need to get better on that side. And that's when
Speaker 1: our boy Khalil mack who was getting all the accolades
Speaker 1: last year as a guy that not only was another
Speaker 1: swing and hit for Regie mackenzie, had become an actual superstar.
Speaker 1: Maybe when some games like von Miller does. You have
Speaker 1: to remember half of his sex came in one game
Speaker 1: last year. I mean, it's a breakout season and and
Speaker 1: everybody acted like he was one of the best defensive
Speaker 1: players in the NFL. He gets pressures, he's great in
Speaker 1: the run game, but he's only getting sacks in about
Speaker 1: what one third or one fourth of his games. Little
Speaker 1: misleading the numbers last year's I think they were a
Speaker 1: little misleading. He had he was zero pass rushed as
Speaker 1: a rookie, but so it wasn't It wasn't. But he's
Speaker 1: a great player. I'm not saying he's not. He's a
Speaker 1: guy that gets pressure. It's not a crazy thing for
Speaker 1: a guy like him to go three games without a sack.
Speaker 1: Now if it continued all season, yeah, that's that's more
Speaker 1: of a concerns Steve Smith. By the way, I know
Speaker 1: he's still not running deep routes, but it looks way
Speaker 1: better than we had any right to expect at that
Speaker 1: age coming off of that injury. He looks good. He
Speaker 1: looks good. They're getting it's now a foreheaded receiver group shot.
Speaker 1: Pyraman's intriguing. Pyraman's in it's there. They're a little more
Speaker 1: juicy to watch. The ball comes out so clean. And
Speaker 1: Flacco's hands when you're watching him versus Bortles portals. Last
Speaker 1: week Flacco was putting on a clinic speaking guys that
Speaker 1: have no business being productive. Dennis pit about writing stories
Speaker 1: he thought for no reason like the right and then
Speaker 1: like the quarterbacks in this game, you mentioned that Flacco,
Speaker 1: uh and cart they're really good. I think at knowing
Speaker 1: the moment, when to go for certain places, when not
Speaker 1: to game management. Those are the things that Bordles and Mariota,
Speaker 1: for instance, have been struggling this year, Like mental errors
Speaker 1: like these guys know how to manage. Who do you
Speaker 1: got in this game? Guys, I think the Ravens go
Speaker 1: to four no. I think this Ravens team is good
Speaker 1: taking the Ravens. I trust their coaches and their veterans.
Speaker 1: I think this Raiders team as a little bit of
Speaker 1: something spicy going on. If they win this I would
Speaker 1: consider them. Because no one seems to want to consider
Speaker 1: the Vikings, I would consider you, guys taking the Raiders team.
Speaker 1: Don't take that into a different place. Consider everyone has
Speaker 1: an open mind about the Vikings. I think the Raiders
Speaker 1: of the Raiders are an intriguing team. They're gonna win
Speaker 1: this week. I think they're gonna win two. But if
Speaker 1: the Ravens with the four no our own we everyone
Speaker 1: counted them out and they're gonna be undefeated at the
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Speaker 1: Moving on? The Detroit Lions in Chicago Bears squaring off
Speaker 1: at Soldier field lines and won six straight games against
Speaker 1: the Bears. Uh, and they're trying to make it seven.
Speaker 1: The Bears have not started a season owned four since
Speaker 1: two thousand. But it's coming, Chris Wesleys, This Bears team
Speaker 1: doesn't look like a team that's about to win anytime soon. No,
Speaker 1: it doesn't. In the Lions, on the other hand, or
Speaker 1: the other team besides the Redskins that is, had yards
Speaker 1: in every game so far. This game features the battle
Speaker 1: of no rushing attacks. It's also the battle of two
Speaker 1: rookie runners thrust into the starting lineup. Jordan Howard for
Speaker 1: the Bears, who looks pretty intriguing, a big guy who
Speaker 1: can catch the ball, run between the tackles, and Dwayne
Speaker 1: Washington for the Lions, who wasn't quite as impressive, and
Speaker 1: I'm not sure the Lions can run the ball without him.
Speaker 1: You're up doing because theoretic is purely a receiver. I
Speaker 1: think they want more out of their young offensive lineman.
Speaker 1: They drafted Taylor Decker, who's their left tackle. They drafted
Speaker 1: Lake and Tomlinson in the first round. Neither one of
Speaker 1: those guys is playing particularly well right now. Matthew Stafford
Speaker 1: is overcoming it. He's he's he's I don't know, like
Speaker 1: I'm worried about writing the Matthew Stafford has taken the
Speaker 1: leap column because Finn as impressive as any quarterback in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Because it feels like once I once you
Speaker 1: write it, it's all gonna fall apart. But it's now
Speaker 1: going back twelve games or so. Here's the number since
Speaker 1: Week eight of last season when coonter by the way
Speaker 1: just between us, I like this, Cooter, good for you.
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford TV six picks since Week eight and in
Speaker 1: his last nine games twenty four touchdowns, three interceptions, now
Speaker 1: touchdowns and I and T s doesn't tell the whole story,
Speaker 1: but he seems to be back to the guy that
Speaker 1: everyone was raving about. Is the guy that would be
Speaker 1: a guy undeniably for a decade plus. All right, then
Speaker 1: let me ask you a question. I I totally think
Speaker 1: the Lions on offense, they're they're interesting to watch. What
Speaker 1: is your hope? What is anyone's hope level with this team?
Speaker 1: Why is this any different in the end this Lion
Speaker 1: season than any other? Just general question. It just feels like, well,
Speaker 1: I just look at the Lions with a much different
Speaker 1: team than it was three years ago. But if you
Speaker 1: mean that they're destined to not be a real contender,
Speaker 1: I would agree with you. Yes, that's my concern. But
Speaker 1: I don't have a defense. They with a playoff spot.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're like a Lion team walking. I
Speaker 1: think they could flirt. I don't think they have a defense.
Speaker 1: They need to get onto back levies out They're thin.
Speaker 1: They're thin, but Stafford's makes them watchable. Who's getting as
Speaker 1: signed this game on Sunday, That's my question. This is
Speaker 1: a Patrick game, it's his his Detroit, and I feel
Speaker 1: for Patrick. Loves the Lions cheers to pet Like I
Speaker 1: heard something Matthew Stafford said this week. What I want.
Speaker 1: I would like to see it one of these. It's
Speaker 1: just it's two cities that love their football and they're
Speaker 1: just getting handed. Just this. I think the lines are
Speaker 1: at least interesting the Bear team. That's the problem is
Speaker 1: any game with the Bears in it, Bears fans are
Speaker 1: falling out of love with that team. They're all on
Speaker 1: the Cubs now. I mean Eric Eric Ebron is taking
Speaker 1: another step. He looks like a real weapon as a receiver.
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones looks like a number one receiver. If they
Speaker 1: had golden tape from two years ago, they'd be in
Speaker 1: good shape. But he has eighty eight yards this season.
Speaker 1: They're using him different. He doesn't look as explosive, No,
Speaker 1: not at all. He's not as good after the catch.
Speaker 1: He's always around the line of scrimmage. He's not down field.
Speaker 1: Was there an injury that we missed? Like? What did
Speaker 1: I know, seem to be pegging him the ball right
Speaker 1: near right near where the line is and as opposed
Speaker 1: to getting him down field, which he did great last year.
Speaker 1: Can you not have two of those guys? There's a
Speaker 1: trivia question for you guys. What's Joe Lombardi doing right now? Well, Stafford?
Speaker 1: And is he the worst offensive? You know what is it?
Speaker 1: He's the quarterbacks coach for the Saints. I was gonna
Speaker 1: say John Payton probably took him back. Well, Stafford said
Speaker 1: something interesting this week. I thought we're not doing as
Speaker 1: many I just dropped back twelve steps and try to
Speaker 1: throw the balls far as I can. And it's just
Speaker 1: basically a shot at Joe lombardin Well, I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: the guy, he can take a shot or two for
Speaker 1: what he did there. Moving on, ladies and gentlemen. Ladies,
Speaker 1: I'm referring to Sydney. Thank you for clearing that up. Well,
Speaker 1: there's only one lady then, so who is the second
Speaker 1: lady in this building? There are more than just one woman.
Speaker 1: There's someone else out there. Well, you're also speaking to
Speaker 1: the listener. Yes, Indy Sarah, Indie Sarah one of our
Speaker 1: most loyal listeners. Uh, let's move on and talk about
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos three and oh great win in Week
Speaker 1: three at Cincinnati, Trevor Simeon looked great. And now they
Speaker 1: travel to Tampa to face the Bucks and Greg the
Speaker 1: word is out. It's been told to your boy, Jamis Winston.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna be thrown so much because we don't
Speaker 1: think that works well. He's throwing so much in part
Speaker 1: because their defense is lousy and he's probably the best
Speaker 1: player on their team. Gerald McCoy is playing well, but
Speaker 1: there Jamis Winston is the best they were on the
Speaker 1: Bucks other than Gerald McCoy. Yeah, why not Lavonte David,
Speaker 1: Mike Evans, Vonte David at a poor season last year, Relatively,
Speaker 1: I would take Jamis Winston over Lavonte David. My point
Speaker 1: is that I'll just say I still do enjoy the
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariana James Winston holy war between the scientists, even
Speaker 1: if it's sometimes below the radar. Well, look, I always
Speaker 1: feel it likes to point out that Mariota is now
Speaker 1: one of the worst quarterbacks in the NFL and completely
Speaker 1: glosses over all of the mistakes that Winston has made
Speaker 1: this season. I think I called this one Mark six interceptions,
Speaker 1: Greg right, but he's got eight touchdown these six in
Speaker 1: the league and passing by the way very close. Uh,
Speaker 1: a lot of garbage time stats there last, they're they
Speaker 1: are dead last in I just want to be fair, Well,
Speaker 1: I am, I am fair. Mariota's one of the worst quarterback,
Speaker 1: but Winston is the best player on the Bucks. Give
Speaker 1: me a break. There's no there's no Winston's mistakes count.
Speaker 1: Of course, the accompany taking a lot of positives no
Speaker 1: longer under the races, and he's carrying their offense. But
Speaker 1: he's playing a team that's so much better than the
Speaker 1: Bucks in every way that it's not going to be
Speaker 1: very easy to do this week, Mark, how would you
Speaker 1: like to be assigned to this game? Watching an afternoon
Speaker 1: game at Raymond James Stadium. I will pass on that
Speaker 1: whoever has the assignment, I hope they enjoyed them. Someone
Speaker 1: pointed out my my friend, uh, Shelyn Patel, who have
Speaker 1: reference on the show the Big Bucks fan in Tampa,
Speaker 1: said we should notice on the schedule a lot of
Speaker 1: the Bucks home games are late games, so you don't
Speaker 1: have to deal with the sun nearly as much. That
Speaker 1: means a lot, it does. It's a huge factor in
Speaker 1: terms of their watchability index. I'm just saying, we're coming
Speaker 1: off a game with Winston four yards, three touchdowns, one interception.
Speaker 1: He was not the problem. Mike Smith took over that
Speaker 1: defense to improve it from what from love you Smith doing?
Speaker 1: And right now they're dead last in the NFL in
Speaker 1: points a lot. They're struggling. Broncos are closing by the
Speaker 1: way really well this season. Plus thirty two point referential
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of games. Uh so that's what
Speaker 1: you expect from good teams. They turn it on at
Speaker 1: the end. Uh Denver, Listen, they look great. I mean,
Speaker 1: if they're gonna they're not gonna get that Trevor simme
Speaker 1: in every week. But and maybe their defense isn't quite
Speaker 1: as good a pocket movement to me and has to
Speaker 1: buy some extra time. But this race for the number
Speaker 1: one seed with the Patriots is going to be real.
Speaker 1: When does Gary Kubiak start getting credit as one of
Speaker 1: the better coaches? And the good question because it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're just a placeholder coach that just won the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl and has the team operating at the same level
Speaker 1: going into this season. Before he got to the Broncos,
Speaker 1: he gave Joe Flacker the best season of his career too.
Speaker 1: He's he's a good offensive mind. I mean, they they
Speaker 1: went into Cincinnati choosing to completely give up on running.
Speaker 1: Going into the game against the team that had been
Speaker 1: a terrible run defense Cincinnati, they said, Simeon, let's throw
Speaker 1: it all day long. And you know what, it worked.
Speaker 1: John Elby looks great. I mean the Simeon things working
Speaker 1: out just fine, and you still have a number one
Speaker 1: quarterback waiting in the wings. Said this after week one,
Speaker 1: and I still believe it. I'd rather have Trevor Simmey
Speaker 1: and then broke off at that price tag, absolutely any
Speaker 1: price tag. Moving on, gentlemen that had Los Angeles Rams
Speaker 1: the first place, Los Angeles Rams, who would have predicted
Speaker 1: that after that first Monday night game travel to Arizona
Speaker 1: to face the Cardinals. Cardinals got uh really whooped in
Speaker 1: Orchard Park a thirty three eighteen loss. And it makes
Speaker 1: me think, Mark that the Rams, despite their back to
Speaker 1: back wins, are heading into a buzz saw in Glendale.
Speaker 1: Well it's not the you don't you would have liked
Speaker 1: to see Arizona take care of business in the bills
Speaker 1: and maybe try to sneak up on them. Uh, but
Speaker 1: that's not gonna happen for me. The problem with the
Speaker 1: Rams and I'll give him credit for what they did
Speaker 1: last week, last two weeks, but you still have the
Speaker 1: centerpiece of your offense, Todd Gurley running at two point
Speaker 1: nine yards per carry. Good defenses know that there isn't
Speaker 1: an easier team in the league to game plan for.
Speaker 1: And what they did well last week, and they're they're
Speaker 1: having keenom throw the ball more than you think. And
Speaker 1: he actually found Tavon Austin downfield for some of the
Speaker 1: first times all season through a nice touchdown, also through
Speaker 1: an awful interception, gave up a terrible sack where he
Speaker 1: should have thrown the ball away. Case Keenen is going
Speaker 1: to be Case keen and week to week you need
Speaker 1: Gurley to free up get your yardage, and he is
Speaker 1: a hostage in that offense. Right now. Nothing's changed. It's
Speaker 1: the same story as last week. Did they score like
Speaker 1: thirty seven points? I if you go watch it, I
Speaker 1: just don't buy into how it happened. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: be a week to week thing. Again. They played an
Speaker 1: offense that we're talking about the worst. The defense in
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay that has got a lot of issues. This
Speaker 1: is a big game for the Cardinals. I know the
Speaker 1: Rams played them well in both games last year and
Speaker 1: eat him in Arizona, right beat them in Arizona. Robert
Speaker 1: Griffin is playing better, Robert Quinn is playing better this year.
Speaker 1: This defense for the Rams is really getting after quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if the Cardinals are protecting cars
Speaker 1: in Palmer all that well. Not last week. They didn't.
Speaker 1: Damnaschek ambled over um to our pod of desks today
Speaker 1: and wondered why not more people weren't making a bigger
Speaker 1: deal out of Cardinals early struggles and Carson Palmer, And
Speaker 1: I said, it feels a little early. But if the
Speaker 1: Rams go to Arizona this week and and beat up
Speaker 1: the Cardinals win a game and Palmer looks bad again,
Speaker 1: I think Arizona fans have every reason to be very
Speaker 1: scared that the magic ran out there. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: still early, but one of three would be terrible. I've
Speaker 1: been asked about Palmer so far, and I think it's
Speaker 1: too early to write him off as like a problem
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals. I don't think he's been that bad
Speaker 1: other than I don't either, and he still had a
Speaker 1: There was a drive right before halftime in week two
Speaker 1: that I thought the Carson Palmer's back like he his
Speaker 1: pocket movement was great, his toughness, he's stuck in the
Speaker 1: pocket and made throws under pressure on the move. I
Speaker 1: thought he was fine. And then to kind of have
Speaker 1: a stinker last week. I want to see what happens
Speaker 1: in this game before way in on him. I know
Speaker 1: that you that you called it a no show, and
Speaker 1: you know even the good teams that happens, But do
Speaker 1: you really feel that it's a no show. Do you
Speaker 1: feel that the real Cardinals are just gonna show up
Speaker 1: and ride from here on out? I think they know
Speaker 1: showed in Buffalo and it's not unusual for the West
Speaker 1: Coast team, but come all the way across here's where
Speaker 1: I think there. I don't know if the preseason matters
Speaker 1: that much, but they talked. You know, they didn't play
Speaker 1: much in the preseason. When they did, they kind of stunk,
Speaker 1: and they said, well, we're gonna get it solved. And
Speaker 1: it is a good article this week by Kent Summer's
Speaker 1: Bruce Arian say we know what our problems are. And
Speaker 1: he said that for five stree weeks. And there's been
Speaker 1: a malaise with this with this team in general, especially
Speaker 1: the offense, and they haven't been able to fix it yet.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean they can't. One of the Beat writers calling
Speaker 1: for Michael Floyd to be benched for Jeron Brown. Michael
Speaker 1: Floyd's been terrible for three games. John Brown is only
Speaker 1: playing less than half the snaps, which is it's just
Speaker 1: strange what's happening with their wide receiver group. Let's move on.
Speaker 1: Here's a game between the New Orleans Saints and the
Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers. Charges one and two could easily be
Speaker 1: three and oh, they just could close out a couple
Speaker 1: of games, but that's not how football works. And here's
Speaker 1: a little interesting tidbit Chris Westling. This was Drew brees
Speaker 1: first game back in San Diego since he left the team.
Speaker 1: Uh game narrative Street, I've already heard too much about
Speaker 1: this that this week. Answer the question is that the
Speaker 1: revenge game, dammit for whom Drew Brees. He wants revenge
Speaker 1: on the Chargers. Yeah, into New Orleans to win a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Of course, you know they picked Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: over Drew Brees ten years ago. Was it the right decision.
Speaker 1: You really think if the NFL kicked you to the
Speaker 1: curb and you did much better somewhere else, when you
Speaker 1: went back there for this first time, you wouldn't be
Speaker 1: peacocking around. Of course, he wants to bury bad analogy
Speaker 1: did history. Drew Brees had an awful season, terrible season,
Speaker 1: got benched. That's why. That's why they drafted Philip Rivers.
Speaker 1: They had every right to draft Philip Rivers because Drew
Speaker 1: Brees was terrible that here, and it was early and
Speaker 1: Drew Brees' career before he was established as a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1: Nobody knew obviously he was gonna be the Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: If they could do it again, would they do it
Speaker 1: knowing what they know now? If they knew what they
Speaker 1: know now, they would They would have kept Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: M Anyway, It's just a fun little thing, but it's
Speaker 1: not the biggest thing in the world. Yeah, it's sort
Speaker 1: of like a manufactured controversy. But Chris loves these narratives,
Speaker 1: and whenever we can point one his way, I say
Speaker 1: we should. I wouldn't have called it out if it's
Speaker 1: just he's playing for the first time. What happens when
Speaker 1: the Chargers offense faces the Saints defense. Will the will
Speaker 1: there be any healthy players by the end of the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to see what the Saints look like on
Speaker 1: the road after they look so horrendous at home. They
Speaker 1: their defense somehow only gave up nine points to the
Speaker 1: Giants the last time they were on the road. The
Speaker 1: Giants offense. That feels like a million years ago. I mean,
Speaker 1: it just seems like every game they have to go
Speaker 1: in the shine is off after what happened on on
Speaker 1: Monday night. But but the Chargers without Antonio Gates, Uh,
Speaker 1: they certainly have their share of problems in general. I
Speaker 1: don't know if any game is a sure game for
Speaker 1: them in that defense right now? Could the four be
Speaker 1: without Brandon Flowers in this game? What if the four
Speaker 1: of us in Sydney and we just got another Flowers,
Speaker 1: another five or six, you know, humans from around the office,
Speaker 1: just sort of people that work in cubes. Could we
Speaker 1: score a field goal or a touchdown on the Saints defense? No?
Speaker 1: Do I played quarterback? Four voters? Yeah, we'd have four
Speaker 1: quarters to play. We wouldn't get positive and have endless
Speaker 1: wouldn't come you to have endless. We could have a
Speaker 1: roster of like three hundred people because people would constantly
Speaker 1: be getting hurt obviously, you know, you know, Secretary, I
Speaker 1: think we would be stifled. I think we'd be held
Speaker 1: to about seventeen points. I see a little more in us.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't get a yard. Yeah, I honestly think we
Speaker 1: wouldn't get up. You got a yard? You shotgun that
Speaker 1: ball back? Chris Wesley throws it to someone streaking down
Speaker 1: field one yard coming shot. Did you guys watch did
Speaker 1: you guys watch Monday Night's game? We're gonna get some yarded,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, Dan, good scouting. You're gonna tear
Speaker 1: your hand string before the opening bell. Listen, We're gonna
Speaker 1: get some points, it says the group of guys who
Speaker 1: are like no one stayed healthy through it. Oh, you
Speaker 1: mean the group of champions. That's a good point. Champions, champs.
Speaker 1: And we came in third place in Trivia Night and
Speaker 1: the Going Away Irishman Yesterday. Not just any trivia. The
Speaker 1: Garage in Palms, Los Angeles the hardest trivia I've ever
Speaker 1: been apart. It's a very good trivial, most challenging as
Speaker 1: far as all the nerds in one place. Come on,
Speaker 1: Chargers and Saints fans have gotten their money's worth. There's nothing,
Speaker 1: there's no bit of information that we didn't uncover during
Speaker 1: this preview. All right, well then we should just move
Speaker 1: on then and talk about the Dallas Cowboys now two
Speaker 1: and one. But you know, more Dez drama. It's always
Speaker 1: gonna be a part of the Dez story. There's always
Speaker 1: gonna be something cooking. And this time it's about a
Speaker 1: knee injury. Uh he suffered it, uh in in the
Speaker 1: win last week. Uh skip the MRI that the team
Speaker 1: wanted him to get. When he eventually did get the
Speaker 1: knee tested, it revealed a hairline fracture, and initially the
Speaker 1: belief was that, oh, he could play through it. But
Speaker 1: now it's starting to sound like he's gonna miss time.
Speaker 1: So not only is there some kind of maybe some
Speaker 1: bad blood between the two sides over the situation, No Deaz,
Speaker 1: how much is that going to hurt the Cowboys? Mark Sessler?
Speaker 1: It doesn't help at all. But if you want to
Speaker 1: talk about a week where you had to not have
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant, and it might be multiple weeks, but if
Speaker 1: you want to start that experiment, off I would pick
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty Niners who have given up what
Speaker 1: eighty three points in two weeks after shutting down the
Speaker 1: Rams in Week one. So I realized that it's in
Speaker 1: San Francisco. Maybe that changes things a little bit. But
Speaker 1: I look up and down the Dallas roster, especially on offense,
Speaker 1: and say, there aren't many players in San Francisco that
Speaker 1: you take over. What Dallas offers Dallas is better starters
Speaker 1: all over the place, all over the field. Dak Prescott
Speaker 1: has been I think Dak Prescott has been overshadowed by
Speaker 1: what Carson Wentz has done. If the Carson Wentz were
Speaker 1: on the field and you had Sam Brad from there,
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott would be getting a million stories, a million headlines.
Speaker 1: He's been fantastic for a young quarterback. Ezekiel Elliott, I
Speaker 1: think broke out of his shell last week, played some
Speaker 1: played some excellent football on the ground, and I think
Speaker 1: this is a game that Dallas, unless they make a
Speaker 1: bunch of mistakes, there's no excuses not to win this game.
Speaker 1: He doesn't have Dez Bryant, Doc doesn't, but he does
Speaker 1: have his number one receiver, Cool Beasley. Yeah, he's not
Speaker 1: Jason Witten too. He looks to Cool Beasley when he's
Speaker 1: in trouble, not to Dez Bryant. This is a Cowboys team, though,
Speaker 1: I don't think you can underrate does being out of there.
Speaker 1: I know it's the forty Niners. And you're right. If
Speaker 1: you were drying up a schedule, what cream puffs can
Speaker 1: we play? You would take the Bears at home and
Speaker 1: then the forty Niners on the road. It's as easy
Speaker 1: as it gets. And yet that's just not how the
Speaker 1: NFL works. He's still a rookie quarterback going against the
Speaker 1: defense with with some quality veterans, with some good looking
Speaker 1: rookies on the defense line. They haven't played well, but
Speaker 1: they had one game out the one game they played
Speaker 1: at home, they played well together. Like it wouldn't surprise
Speaker 1: me at off they're winning this game sixteen to ten,
Speaker 1: and the fourth well, what concerns me is you look
Speaker 1: at Carlos Hide and the box score tells you at
Speaker 1: a hundred plus yards. It came in garbage time. He
Speaker 1: didn't do much until the game really was out of hand.
Speaker 1: In San Francisco. You know that's they've they're piling up
Speaker 1: stats when it doesn't matter, and they have the worst
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league right now. I think Gabbert's playing
Speaker 1: worse than anyone else. I mean, I think we could
Speaker 1: see Colin Kaepernick in this game. At some point I
Speaker 1: thought that was gonna happen last week. Did they have
Speaker 1: one of the worst coaches in the league. Look at
Speaker 1: what the Eagles are doing with the same defensive Personnelity
Speaker 1: Kelly had. Well he I don't think he gets as
Speaker 1: too involved in the defense. Well, you know that his
Speaker 1: offense forces the defense. That that's right. Defensive players under
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly in Philadelphia and they're up twenty one to
Speaker 1: nothing on the Rams and still running plays with twenty
Speaker 1: five seconds left on the clock. This is Chip Kelly's
Speaker 1: m out. I have a prediction. I have a sessler.
Speaker 1: I'll even say about this game. Carson Wentz is the
Speaker 1: favorite in the offensive Rookie of the Year battle. Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Eli is gonna go nuts in this game, coming off
Speaker 1: that game last week where he started to really get
Speaker 1: his swag going. It's gonna go off buck eighty three
Speaker 1: touchdowns blow went for the Cowboys and people are going nuts.
Speaker 1: That would help my sandwich prop which and Gregg has
Speaker 1: the field. I think you might have the field to
Speaker 1: I might have taken the field, I think. I think
Speaker 1: in those those are mostly just false award races. I
Speaker 1: don't put much stock in any of that, but I
Speaker 1: would say this that if you're a quarterback that has
Speaker 1: an outstanding season, good luck to anyone else. They're real awards.
Speaker 1: They are real awards, the real things that could hand
Speaker 1: it out. I don't I'm just saying some of them
Speaker 1: are at this point. If Carson Wentz stays healthy, I'd
Speaker 1: be hard for me to imagine he wouldn't win it. Well,
Speaker 1: he's got a n he's got to play well, Greg,
Speaker 1: It's only three games. Yeah, I mean we're talking if
Speaker 1: things continue a pace from here or not. Like, we've
Speaker 1: never seen a rookie quarterback the same league that gave
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford the Rookie of the Year when he had
Speaker 1: six yards per attempt. If it's because there was no competition,
Speaker 1: that you, that's because Pat Shermer was spinning magic, pure magic,
Speaker 1: dark magic. What about this Mariota vers Winston thing. I
Speaker 1: just want to see some fair play. You please not
Speaker 1: dive back into that. I will beg you not to
Speaker 1: die back into that take it offline, go get a
Speaker 1: sandwich together somewhere. Um, let's move on to the primetime
Speaker 1: games Sunday Night Football. Thank god no Bears involved this week,
Speaker 1: and we got a real good a f C game.
Speaker 1: The Kansas City Chiefs UH now two and one, coming
Speaker 1: off that win against the Jets where they turned the
Speaker 1: ball over I think eight times uh in the wind.
Speaker 1: Travel to Pittsburgh again to face the Steelers, who really
Speaker 1: got beaten in all phases UH by Carson Winson. The
Speaker 1: Eagles UH on the road. So now they return home
Speaker 1: and you would think they're gonna be angry and they're
Speaker 1: gonna be pissed off. But greg Or West I should say,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs need some respect. Let's give us some respect.
Speaker 1: They're gonna hang in this game, aren't they. Of course
Speaker 1: they're gonna hang And you know you you talk about
Speaker 1: the Drew Brees revenge game, but do not underestimate the
Speaker 1: Todd Haley revenge game. Here Like dum tim and now
Speaker 1: he's proven to be one of the best offensive coordinators
Speaker 1: in the league. I'm really looking forward to Marcus Peters,
Speaker 1: who won Defensive Player of the Week. Big Ben and
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin raved about him Wednesday, saying he's a phenomenal player,
Speaker 1: tremendous talent. He's allowed a thirty nine passer eating this year.
Speaker 1: There's this perception that Marcus Peters gives up too many plays,
Speaker 1: which is wrong, since since the bye week of his
Speaker 1: rookie season, he is in the top five and lowest
Speaker 1: completion percentage and lowest passer rating, and he has led
Speaker 1: the NFL and passes defense and interception since he stepped
Speaker 1: foot in the NFL. Marcus Peters a legitimate start, somebody
Speaker 1: who could actually take on Antonio Brown for real one
Speaker 1: on one. Let's not get too excited about I want
Speaker 1: it lest I writing. I wanted wrote an article before
Speaker 1: I left last night. You can check it out. I
Speaker 1: was gonna say talking about Marcus Peters. Marcus Peters plays
Speaker 1: in the left of the field, and he doesn't travel
Speaker 1: like Patrick Peterson. He's allowed to peek in the backfield
Speaker 1: because he's got help coming his way. Antonio Brown mostly
Speaker 1: stays on the right side of the field, so I
Speaker 1: would not like sometimes every now might they might be
Speaker 1: matched up on occasion. I want to watch out all
Speaker 1: the time. This is the year of everyone discussing the cornerback,
Speaker 1: wide receiver matchup and who's gonna play on what side
Speaker 1: of the field and who travels every single week? Well,
Speaker 1: I wanted to play against each other. Can I tell
Speaker 1: you something that can make you feel a little bit better.
Speaker 1: Marcus Peters is worth watching no matter who he's covering.
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is worth watching no matter who's covering him.
Speaker 1: Plus there's some some other dynamic players on the Steelers
Speaker 1: bell back. It doesn't get suspended by the time maybe
Speaker 1: Marcus Wheels on drop three passes or you know, Marcus
Speaker 1: Peters on Sammy coats deep down the field. They they
Speaker 1: probably won't be with Eli Rodgers this week, which which
Speaker 1: hurts which surprisingly hurts them a lot. And I guess
Speaker 1: Wheaton goes to the slot. Yeah, most likely Wheaton plays
Speaker 1: in the slot. Sammy coachs is good for one for
Speaker 1: yard reception a week because Ben ben is easily the
Speaker 1: best deep ball thrower in the NFL. Agree with that,
Speaker 1: and facing off a guy Alex Smith who doesn't go
Speaker 1: deep too much, but it's gonna be extremely hard to sack.
Speaker 1: The Steelers might have the worst pass rush of any
Speaker 1: team in the league. I think the Eagles showed it
Speaker 1: last week, Carson Wentz had all day to throw. It's
Speaker 1: I think it's a major problem for this this steel
Speaker 1: there's team for the rest of the season. They don't
Speaker 1: have any pass rush. You're not gonna get to Alex Smith.
Speaker 1: He'll he'll move the ball up and down. Their best
Speaker 1: pass rushers. Thirty eight years old football outsiders had them
Speaker 1: as the number two teams so far the Chiefs. Do
Speaker 1: we have any concerns. We love Big Ben in this room,
Speaker 1: but he's been a little sloppy with the ball. It's
Speaker 1: been a while now, his numbers aren't that great when
Speaker 1: you stretch back the last seven or eight games. Now,
Speaker 1: I have zero concerns about Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: if we're going to talk about teams like the Cardinals
Speaker 1: and you know, other quarterbacks, not worrying about the the
Speaker 1: ugly start so far, look, get back on track. I
Speaker 1: just always feel the way about Big Ben because he's
Speaker 1: done it a decade plus. Also ten and oh, following
Speaker 1: a loss for the Steelers the last ten games with
Speaker 1: Ben at quarterback that that game was weird in Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: They blew up. They didn't have the ball that much,
Speaker 1: not many possessions a couple of drives ended ugly. I
Speaker 1: don't think Roethlisberger played poorly to start. He hasn't been
Speaker 1: on fire. He's made a lot of plays, but he
Speaker 1: hasn't been playing back well. I think, like we've talked
Speaker 1: about not having more Tavis Brian in there is a
Speaker 1: dimension of their offense that got stripped away. And you
Speaker 1: didn't levy on Bell. He is an excellent pass catcher
Speaker 1: as well. We'll see what happens. All right, let's move on.
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Speaker 1: moving On Monday night, football Ladies and gentlemen, a battle
Speaker 1: between the New York Giants and Minnesota Vikings. Oh, saucy
Speaker 1: the Giants, they should be three and oh they're kicking
Speaker 1: themselves because they made every stupid mistake in the book
Speaker 1: and letting one get away against the Redskins. Uh A,
Speaker 1: now two and one, and now they travel and face
Speaker 1: the Vikings, a team of a t L finalists. And
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Mark, I know you're nervous. You
Speaker 1: you don't want the tide to turn against the Vikings,
Speaker 1: or perhaps you you have new nerves that there's already
Speaker 1: a tied against the Vikings and this isn't gonna work out.
Speaker 1: But you know what, you get to four and oh
Speaker 1: and you take it to the Giants, who we all
Speaker 1: like on both sides of the ball, you got a
Speaker 1: real good case, not even slightly nervous. Really, even if
Speaker 1: they go three and one, and then if they went
Speaker 1: three and seven, I'm still excited about my decision. Right,
Speaker 1: But we're talking about the team of a t L
Speaker 1: fascinating matchup. I mean, we've seen what the Giants have
Speaker 1: done through the air, and actually they've ran the ball well.
Speaker 1: I think losing Shane Vereen doesn't help. He's out this week, correct,
Speaker 1: he's out for the season. We don't know if for
Speaker 1: Shoan Jennings is gonna be back this week. They're using
Speaker 1: two lanes on Orleans darkwa last week. Get some Bobby
Speaker 1: Rainy out there. Bobby Rainey made a play for them.
Speaker 1: I don't feel good about this game if you're a Giants,
Speaker 1: if you're a Giants fan, I just don't see this
Speaker 1: team moving the ball enough. I know they've got good
Speaker 1: wide receivers, but I think if you look at the
Speaker 1: d fences that New York has played so far this year,
Speaker 1: it has been cupcake city. I think their offensive line
Speaker 1: in their past protection for ELI has looked better than
Speaker 1: it really is because of the matchups that they've played.
Speaker 1: They played New Orleans, Dallas, and Washington. Find three defenses
Speaker 1: that are softer than that. And now you gotta go
Speaker 1: play the Vikings. I know they've only scored three offensive
Speaker 1: touchdowns this season. I don't care. That's why it's my
Speaker 1: lock of the week. Whoa, you're locking it up. I'm
Speaker 1: locking it up that and I forgot about the lock
Speaker 1: of the week until we got to the last. This
Speaker 1: is a large It's a good way to go over
Speaker 1: the lock of a week. Absolutely. I love we isolate
Speaker 1: that absolutely for future use. Can we play that a
Speaker 1: thousand times in a row at the end of the show.
Speaker 1: Please brace yourself. I really like this Giants team. M hmm.
Speaker 1: You know I love when you give New York teams love. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like to do it because they
Speaker 1: get so much love from the population already. It's actually
Speaker 1: the media which is so effusive in praise and coverage
Speaker 1: of New York, right, but you know the Bermuda try
Speaker 1: and what do you know. Let's let's focus on the
Speaker 1: actual good team. Mark has talked about the receivers which
Speaker 1: are the most productive in the NFL, and it's no
Speaker 1: coincidence that two thousand and fourteen draft Dave Gettleman says, look,
Speaker 1: you can take all these other receivers. Odell Beckham's the
Speaker 1: only NFL route runner in the draft. They take the
Speaker 1: best NFL route runner in two fourteen. Then they take
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd, the best route runner by far in this
Speaker 1: draft class. And it's no it's no coincidence that this
Speaker 1: these guys are on fire. Immediate route that Sterling Shepherd
Speaker 1: put on Deshaun Phillips for that touchdown last week where
Speaker 1: he faked one way and went the other, just lost
Speaker 1: him right off the line of scrimmage. These guys, I
Speaker 1: think can get open on anyone. It makes you wonder
Speaker 1: why more people don't when they're scouting in the draft,
Speaker 1: value that more, the ability to play the position that
Speaker 1: way rather than just depend on the ross. I think
Speaker 1: some teams are looking for. They want big monster receivers,
Speaker 1: they want certain speed. Necessarily, you can't when you look
Speaker 1: at the draft. There's no way you can look at
Speaker 1: Corey Coleman and say, hey, I don't want his playmaking
Speaker 1: ability even if Sterling Sharps or Sterling Shepherd's a better route.
Speaker 1: Where's Lakwan Treadwell by the way, because he was he
Speaker 1: was taking for Sterling Shepherd and he's not even on
Speaker 1: the grid. He's literally an active last week, a healthy scratch,
Speaker 1: and we heard bad things about him in August about
Speaker 1: maybe this progress wasn't going too well. I mean that
Speaker 1: that seems like quite a whizzo Washington. You know what's weird.
Speaker 1: I mean, they could use la Kwan Treadwell so act
Speaker 1: that that's not true. But they are getting enough production
Speaker 1: out of their receivers. They've got a number one receiver
Speaker 1: in Stefon Diggs, Kyle Rudolph. It's three games, but he's
Speaker 1: playing like a very good starting tight end, like a
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl type of tight end, Adam Feeling. If you
Speaker 1: watch him, I mean, he looks like a pretty good
Speaker 1: rotational receiver. Maybe they could use one more. I'm just
Speaker 1: amazed by a team where Sam Bradford is managing to
Speaker 1: win some games with no offensive line and no running game.
Speaker 1: The worst running game in the in the NFL pretty
Speaker 1: much on in terms of the number. So I'd say
Speaker 1: you're down on Jerick McKinnon. Then here's a different he's
Speaker 1: a different way, different way to look at la Kwan
Speaker 1: treadwell that Mike Zimmer comes from a Bengals organization that
Speaker 1: rarely rushed rookies in and now he does the same
Speaker 1: thing in Minnesota, So give him credit for not putting
Speaker 1: players and before they're ready. Trey Wayne's playing better than
Speaker 1: expected this year because he's finally ready after sitting Lands year.
Speaker 1: I guess the biggest concern for the Vikings entering Week
Speaker 1: four is that despite being three and oh, they just
Speaker 1: have three touchdowns on offense the entire season. I didn't
Speaker 1: have to score more points? Where the points coming from?
Speaker 1: When their first round picks not giving them anything and
Speaker 1: they don't and ap has gone where the points coming from?
Speaker 1: All I would say is, and this may not be
Speaker 1: the reason, but you're starting quarterback joined the team days
Speaker 1: before the season begins and has played way better than
Speaker 1: anybody you would have expected. I mean, I got asked
Speaker 1: what happens like when Titty Bridgewater is healthy? To be honest,
Speaker 1: if we don't even know whoever be. We don't know
Speaker 1: if who'll ever be himself. Sam Bradford won't be healthy
Speaker 1: either though. The way the lines playing, I think it's
Speaker 1: been probably underplayed because they're three and o. They've been
Speaker 1: a disaster. They Mike Zimmer made a lot of noises offseason.
Speaker 1: We weren't tough on the offensive line. The rest of
Speaker 1: the team is tough. We weren't tough. So they signed
Speaker 1: Alex Boon, They've signed Andre Smith. They've both struggled. They
Speaker 1: haven't been able to run the ball. Andre Smith especially
Speaker 1: has has played really poorly. That's a problem. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know if they overcome that. The Giants would
Speaker 1: think would be able to take advantage. And yet the
Speaker 1: one if they're a weird team, because the one part
Speaker 1: that's a little disappointed with the Giants is their pass rush.
Speaker 1: They don't really have a pass rush. Yet you're a
Speaker 1: big JPP guy, he's been okay. He's been the best
Speaker 1: one rushing the passer of all the because but he
Speaker 1: hasn't been great either. I'd like to see more um
Speaker 1: on the Giants pass or the Giants offensive line has
Speaker 1: been great. Eli only hit seven times the entire season,
Speaker 1: so a lot of that's eli too. I like uh,
Speaker 1: I like the Giants in this game. I like the
Speaker 1: Giants getting too three and one and the Vikings losing
Speaker 1: their first game of the year. West, where do you
Speaker 1: come down in this? I agree with you, Mark, You're
Speaker 1: gonna go four? No Vikings. Well, I can't pick the
Speaker 1: Giants in the situation and I'm tangled up in right now,
Speaker 1: so but I do think the Vikings will win. Also,
Speaker 1: my lock of the week will be that I lock
Speaker 1: it up. I will ever pick a lock of the week. Wow,
Speaker 1: he is so against the segment. I have to admire
Speaker 1: your resilience. You really, Doug, Why why don't you want
Speaker 1: to be a part of the segment? You should answer
Speaker 1: to that. I think that our segments are fun and
Speaker 1: cool and interesting and add a lot to the show.
Speaker 1: And this adds like nothing and takes away from it all, Right,
Speaker 1: Chris West, gather the family around the fire listeners, it's
Speaker 1: just more and more fun. Have you asked the question? Like?
Speaker 1: I think it's a ridiculous answer. It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: There's none of the none of the locks that were given.
Speaker 1: We're locks like the jets is in the Browns is
Speaker 1: a wish cast. By the way, Craig just likes the
Speaker 1: vikings at home. By the way, in your mind, Josh Gordon,
Speaker 1: our lock of the week, not yours, Josh, I know,
Speaker 1: but we've never picked locks. Were like, oh, these games
Speaker 1: aren't allowed because they're too much lock. You want to
Speaker 1: let pick some games that are not a little fodder
Speaker 1: to West's argument, Josh Gordon. The Browns have announced that
Speaker 1: Josh Gordon as Uh entered inpatient rehab and will not
Speaker 1: be returning anytime soon potentially. What does that have to
Speaker 1: do with comment that I am wish casting Brown's victories completely.
Speaker 1: He's going back into rehab. Yeah, it doesn't really impact
Speaker 1: this week's game, but it impacts my That was more
Speaker 1: breaking news from Marks. Yeah that's what that was. Well,
Speaker 1: it's like eight seven people talking at the same time.
Speaker 1: How do you get it done? But like I mean,
Speaker 1: it impacts my mental health going into two days off.
Speaker 1: See you on Sunday. West. It's called being a team player.
Speaker 1: Why are you throwing up a fit on this? You
Speaker 1: should join us? Well, it's not it's not a fit.
Speaker 1: You asked me a question, so I answered it. I
Speaker 1: told the truth is what happened but I wasn't involved
Speaker 1: in the meetings where it was decided that this lock
Speaker 1: was So who's being a team player when I wasn't
Speaker 1: even involved in the discussion. Do you want to come
Speaker 1: in earlier to be involved with a meeting? Well, I
Speaker 1: think you could text me or something. Well, we haven't
Speaker 1: that we have a dial in phone device. He could
Speaker 1: dial in like while he's walking around the beach. You
Speaker 1: gotta add it to the list. We gotta make make
Speaker 1: sure everybody's happy. We're gonna work on this lock of
Speaker 1: the week with West and we will let everyone know
Speaker 1: where it goes from here. But the next time you
Speaker 1: hear from us, by the way, there's no way West
Speaker 1: does a lock of the week. Now, now that we
Speaker 1: went down this road, that's my lock of the week.
Speaker 1: West will never do a lock of the week. So
Speaker 1: you just agree with my lack of the week as
Speaker 1: your lock of the week. By lock of the week is,
Speaker 1: we will not change your mind on this. My lock
Speaker 1: has already told you I wasn't going to lock it up.
Speaker 1: My lock of the week is the lock of the
Speaker 1: week will no longer exist in a few weeks. Lock
Speaker 1: it up. Well, it's getting good now, You've underestimated me,
Speaker 1: because I'll never let it die. Lock that up. Now,
Speaker 1: these segments get good. I love it. Keep locking the week.
Speaker 1: I'll also lock up that. Greg will kill a segment
Speaker 1: every week until he leaves the NFL media. Lock it up,
Speaker 1: not the Boss anymore? Buddy? What did I have to
Speaker 1: do with it? That's it? Listen, that's it. That's it.
Speaker 1: I am stunned by the three of you. What has
Speaker 1: happened to this show? The next time do you hear
Speaker 1: from us, it will be Sunday night. Oh, come on,
Speaker 1: can we keep that? Lock it up? Get rid of it?
Speaker 1: Sunday night? We will recap all of the Sunday games,
Speaker 1: and of course that's Sunday night football game between the
Speaker 1: Chiefs and Steelers. So make sure you check that out.
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