Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast secretly sings Sugar Ray in
Speaker 1: the shower. Welcome back to another edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I
Speaker 1: am joined by a room filled with he Rose, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Roseatal. What's up boys? Hey, Dan,
Speaker 1: I am so excited for today's show. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: We have so much to get to today and um,
Speaker 1: so we can't waste too much time because we have,
Speaker 1: um the Monday Night football recap to go over of
Speaker 1: Saints Falcons at the Superdome. We have the team of
Speaker 1: a t L conversation we have to have and there
Speaker 1: is a chance, I'm not saying it's going to happen,
Speaker 1: a chance that we choose a team around the NFL
Speaker 1: UH in this show. Depending on how the conversation goes,
Speaker 1: we are going to Yes, it is that time already,
Speaker 1: after week three, we're gonna stick a fork in some
Speaker 1: teams and and say definitively, in fact, even though we
Speaker 1: are in perfect and we have failed in this in
Speaker 1: the past almost every year, in fact, uh, we will
Speaker 1: say without any question, the teams that we decide today
Speaker 1: are not making the playoffs. Seasons over, Smell you later
Speaker 1: checking and we'll do our playoff picture in our Super
Speaker 1: Bowl preview and get on with the off season. After that,
Speaker 1: we will hit up to Thursday night football preview Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins at the Cincinnati Ben Gals So and it's also
Speaker 1: a special show as as indicated by the money drop,
Speaker 1: because let's be honest, none of us are singing Sugar
Speaker 1: Ray in the shower. Only one man on this podcast
Speaker 1: would do that, are Humble producer Brandon McGinnis. Guilty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: The Irishman his final show in his latest tour of
Speaker 1: duty could be his last tour of duty. We will
Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit later, but we're gonna
Speaker 1: enjoy every second we have left with the Irishman, one
Speaker 1: of the all time greats. But before we get going
Speaker 1: and get into the Monday night football recap, we have
Speaker 1: some breaking news. One of the most popular NFL podcasts
Speaker 1: out there right now in the game to be around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast no sponsor, no sponsor at all, nothing
Speaker 1: coming in. They're leaving money out the table at this point. Yea,
Speaker 1: beholden to no one because no one wants us. So
Speaker 1: what happens? Breaking news coming in? What do you think, oh,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a podcast of your ilk Apple Verizon,
Speaker 1: Sony Cadillacs, Sony the White Whale, Dick Dicks could be well, yeah,
Speaker 1: the president, the President of the United States. Let me
Speaker 1: just say, we might have gotten a sloop big fish. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we have to we have to travel all the
Speaker 1: way to the Netherlands to find him. I want to
Speaker 1: welcome to the Around the NFL podcast. Mr the Flame,
Speaker 1: are you there? I'm here? Wow? All right, let me
Speaker 1: break this down for everyone. Uh ms, their flame is
Speaker 1: a economics teacher h from the Hague. Comma the Netherlands.
Speaker 1: Is that correct? That's correct? And uh you speak with
Speaker 1: and I don't know what's going on in the Hague.
Speaker 1: The Hage kind of sounds like a dance dance craze
Speaker 1: from the nineties sixties. To be honest with me, what
Speaker 1: what is your background? Where do you come from? I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm an American living overseas excuse me, and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: teaching it at American school in the Netherlands. I'm having
Speaker 1: a bit of a fanboy moment here. Hey, you're just like,
Speaker 1: what where can I live? That's thus something in the
Speaker 1: something because the Hague in the Netherlands has to be
Speaker 1: the only place in the world that has that going on.
Speaker 1: Al Yeah, it's a short list. I'm sure the most
Speaker 1: specific city on earth. So Mr Flame reached out to
Speaker 1: his via Twitter with a link to his website, UM
Speaker 1: Flame class dot com. Um you want to check it out?
Speaker 1: F l A I m class dot com with a pitch,
Speaker 1: an economic pitch. I think is this part of like
Speaker 1: a lesson plan for the kids? Yeah, all right, it is.
Speaker 1: And do you want to explain to the listeners your offer? Uh,
Speaker 1: And we're gonna right now, We're gonna say it's an offer.
Speaker 1: We're not accepting anything. We want to hear it from
Speaker 1: the Flame man himself. What is your offer to be
Speaker 1: around the NFL podcast to become our exclusive our exclusive sponsor. Well,
Speaker 1: You've had so many years of shows that I've listened to,
Speaker 1: and the running commentary has always been about the sandwiches
Speaker 1: that come up regularly, and I felt that I wanted
Speaker 1: to give something back, so I offered a sandwich a
Speaker 1: week for the heroes and of course rushmore Worthy producers.
Speaker 1: I assume Sydney's behind the glass there, so it's included
Speaker 1: in that city and irishman, the irishman here, well, Irish fantastic.
Speaker 1: Not no one's put them on rushmore yet. So at
Speaker 1: this point, Sydney, yes, wait a one sandwich to split
Speaker 1: between the four or five of us, or we each
Speaker 1: get one, I thought you, Oh yeah, I hope. So
Speaker 1: I just want to be clear, alright. So the offer
Speaker 1: from Mr Flame is a round of sandwiches um in
Speaker 1: exchange for there's more. Oh, there's more. Yes, we are
Speaker 1: also even though they were going to sponsor us, we
Speaker 1: are still not beholden to anyone. Oh that's very important.
Speaker 1: That's an important part of this offer, all right. So
Speaker 1: that's a critical independence. You know. The advertising can't subsume
Speaker 1: the creativity of the of the geniuses heroes. So I
Speaker 1: like the vision of us man. Yeah, and then the
Speaker 1: According to Mr Flames right up, negotiations can commence a
Speaker 1: SAP as long as Dan Hansis does not help with
Speaker 1: the exchange rate talks on sandwich values. Since he once
Speaker 1: earned a thirty eight on a state mandated mathist, I'd
Speaker 1: like to correct you, Mr Flame. It was a thirty nine.
Speaker 1: I felt a running bit should be the changing of
Speaker 1: that number given a number of years. That's been earned
Speaker 1: that that's fair. That's fair, all right? So Mr Flame,
Speaker 1: the offers out there a round of sandwiches, and all
Speaker 1: we need is one round. Uh. We are not beholden
Speaker 1: to anyone still, and I can't have anything to do
Speaker 1: with the exchange rate. I don't really know what that means,
Speaker 1: but I'm I will step aside from any math related equations.
Speaker 1: H Mark, what do we think about this? I think
Speaker 1: it's number one. You know, we we work for a
Speaker 1: company that is not, uh not light in the pockets.
Speaker 1: They got a lot of cash to throw around. They're
Speaker 1: constantly making cash, and we are the number one earner
Speaker 1: if they had a sponsor, the number one grossing, the
Speaker 1: biggest podcast in NFL, and the league just says, I
Speaker 1: couldn't care less. So you know who's coming in, Mr
Speaker 1: Flame from the Hague, the Netherlands. He's saying, enough with
Speaker 1: the nonsense, me and my economics class, We're gonna light
Speaker 1: this thing on fire. Let's get it done. He's my man,
Speaker 1: gonna like to say, I fire like we're gonna light
Speaker 1: our careers on fire. I I like that we had
Speaker 1: to reach to a deep part of another part of
Speaker 1: the world to find someone that said yes you should
Speaker 1: be sponsored. Thank you. My only concern is the Hague
Speaker 1: is known, it's actually called the International City of Peace
Speaker 1: and Justice, and it's known, you know, for its international courts,
Speaker 1: and I just wonder, like, do you have any power
Speaker 1: to put us into international courts or international crime if
Speaker 1: you're not happy with the podcast? And how the sponsors?
Speaker 1: Good question, that's a fair question. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 1: a realistic question from the boss. Uh. You know, I'd
Speaker 1: say the u c I c J probably has a
Speaker 1: lot of things on its mind and on its plate,
Speaker 1: and maybe we could keep the podcast off their docket.
Speaker 1: They're probably quite busy. They're not aware of some of
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler's outside interests when the podcast isn't well. And
Speaker 1: by the way, the league also will not send us
Speaker 1: to London, but maybe the League will send us to
Speaker 1: the Hague, onto the Hague, onto the everybody do the Hague.
Speaker 1: We think, isn't your boss, older Henry Hodson over in London.
Speaker 1: He's constantly Yeah, he's always flying around. He was in
Speaker 1: like Carlo London. All Right, we got I mean, enough
Speaker 1: is enough, we gotta we gotta move off with the show.
Speaker 1: But I will say this, Mr Flame, you made a
Speaker 1: great offer, and I think it has to be a
Speaker 1: four way vote. We all, it's gotta be ananimous everyone
Speaker 1: that believes that Mr Haymes Economics Clash should be sponsor.
Speaker 1: What did I say, Mr Flames Clash should be the sponsor? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeahs yea, alright with Gusto. Alright, alright, let's calm down,
Speaker 1: all right, Mr Flame, you got what you came for,
Speaker 1: and uh we will offline. We'll figure out the sandwiches.
Speaker 1: How you're going to get him to us, uh, and
Speaker 1: we will remain beholden to no one. You got yourself
Speaker 1: a deal, buddy. You just got the sponsorship of the
Speaker 1: number one podcast of NFL dot com from all your listeners.
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your show. It's a great show.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. Thank you, Mr Flame. Thanks Mr Flame.
Speaker 1: Not beholden to you though I like Mr Flame. There
Speaker 1: we go. We are now officially uh sponsored for the
Speaker 1: first time. Well, the sponsorship will kick off in Earnest
Speaker 1: on Thursday's show. Uh, it will become the new sponsor.
Speaker 1: Can't wait to say it. I like it. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: very excited from we've gone from the Flames, you know,
Speaker 1: the original incarnation with Mark and Dan to Mr Flame
Speaker 1: any concern about a sandwich being shipped from another land mass,
Speaker 1: I don't, ye can't you just order sandwiches online and
Speaker 1: cold haven't delivered to us? I think I think Mark's
Speaker 1: overthinking this little Oh yeah, I'm not thinking. Well, we
Speaker 1: tried in international courts. Is that that's what? Ever? Thinking?
Speaker 1: That got you? That was important? Okay? I was during negotiations. Yes,
Speaker 1: Monday Night football at the Superdome on the ten year
Speaker 1: anniversary or close to it. It It was actually Sunday of
Speaker 1: Steve Gleason's historic iconic blocked punt that uh you know,
Speaker 1: came to signify the spirit of New Orleans after Hurricane
Speaker 1: Katrina and changed the franchise. Really three years later they
Speaker 1: were champions. By the way, is the first game in
Speaker 1: the Superdome with Drew Brees and Sean Payton. I mean
Speaker 1: that's there, you go. I mean a change, a change
Speaker 1: that changed the city. And now ten years later, there
Speaker 1: again playing the Falcons on Monday Night football. No magic
Speaker 1: here in store though for the Saints this time around,
Speaker 1: who could not get a stop on defense to save
Speaker 1: their lives. I think what was it five or six
Speaker 1: touchdown drives in a row by the by by the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons in this game, a game that the Saints
Speaker 1: kind of hung around uh in until the third quarter,
Speaker 1: uh or early in the fourth quarter, when Drew Brees
Speaker 1: dropped back and got picked off his first picking over
Speaker 1: three past attempts, a pick six run back for a
Speaker 1: score that clinched the game. Final score forty thirty two.
Speaker 1: Uh the Falcons over the Saints. The Falcons now a
Speaker 1: surprise two and one and the Saints buried buried Greg
Speaker 1: Rosenthal at two. And I think, Greg, this was your
Speaker 1: lock of the week, no terrible memory, but I did
Speaker 1: lose my lock of the week. Should it surprise me though,
Speaker 1: that you anytime you don't get excited about the Saints,
Speaker 1: because you must be dying right now. Saints oh and
Speaker 1: three not not compared to Saints fans because they've seen this,
Speaker 1: you know, hardcore Saints fans. You know, I'm just kind
Speaker 1: of a deletante here. Did I root for them and whatnot?
Speaker 1: But I don't know. They were a terrible defense that
Speaker 1: needed to play good team defense this year just to
Speaker 1: approach mediocrity. And they're missing seven starters from their defense.
Speaker 1: So you take what's a bad defense and you make
Speaker 1: it worse. And it reminds me of what we talked about.
Speaker 1: They gave Sean Payton this extension. What what if they
Speaker 1: do have another season like the last couple that they have.
Speaker 1: What if they go off to another oh and three
Speaker 1: start for the third straight year and this guy signed through.
Speaker 1: It just feels like more of the same, the same
Speaker 1: problems year after year. For me to take away from
Speaker 1: this game, and you want, you want to find out
Speaker 1: what an offense can can be, Go play, Go play
Speaker 1: the Saints if you're not the New York Giants in
Speaker 1: Week two, because what we saw from the Falcons was
Speaker 1: and yes it's not great for Julio Jones fantasy owners,
Speaker 1: but this year's Falcons versus Matt Ryan throwing the ball
Speaker 1: up to Julio Jones eighteen nineteen twenty times a game,
Speaker 1: it's your only way to score points, spreading the ball
Speaker 1: all over the field. You mentioned the last night, Chris
Speaker 1: their backfield, DeVonta Freeman, Tevin Coleman of fascinating duo s
Speaker 1: new looks awesome so far. To me, I think he's
Speaker 1: a perfect compliment and an upgrade from Royanhite. Well he's
Speaker 1: been dealing with injuries, but I mean he's He's an
Speaker 1: asset to that team and they can do a lot
Speaker 1: of different things. There's a reason that Matt Ryan's numbers
Speaker 1: and absolute kind of composure looks better this season. Let's
Speaker 1: get Matt Ryan a lot of credit. He had a
Speaker 1: down year last year, and I don't think there was
Speaker 1: any real hype around him. A lot of talking, including
Speaker 1: in this room, that maybe he was what he was
Speaker 1: at this point, and I thought he he looked excellent
Speaker 1: in this game. And yes, granted, this was a terrible
Speaker 1: showing by the Saints defense. In fact, I want to
Speaker 1: point out one point in this game, third and nine
Speaker 1: at midfield. Uh. The score at this point is thirty
Speaker 1: five seventeen. The Saints have a chance to get off
Speaker 1: the field, and what happens. Matt Ryan UH does a
Speaker 1: little UH play action and Davante Freeman sneaks out of
Speaker 1: the backfield uncovered, catches the ball and rumbles about forty
Speaker 1: yards down into the inside the ten yard line. And
Speaker 1: then on two plays later, Tevin Coleman bounces outside on
Speaker 1: a run and there's literally no one on the left
Speaker 1: side of the field. It was some of the worst
Speaker 1: defense I've ever seen that you almost want them to
Speaker 1: fire Rob Ryan again. I'm with you, Dan, and I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people like football games today where
Speaker 1: the whole emphasis is, you know, high octa and scoring
Speaker 1: on both sides. This is the I'm I'm in the minority.
Speaker 1: I'm sure this is not the kind of football game.
Speaker 1: You were annoyed, you were cheesed off watching this game. Well,
Speaker 1: this is exactly what we said the Saints were going
Speaker 1: to be and they were. Well, this is I'm sure
Speaker 1: the because you're very angry talking about this game. Mark
Speaker 1: anything to do with the the debates, the presidential debates
Speaker 1: at the same time, going back and forth. At didn't
Speaker 1: watch those till after I separate my profession from you know,
Speaker 1: after there's a lot of fire, a lot of rage
Speaker 1: on text as well. Well, I was annoyed about this
Speaker 1: game on Thursday. And there's a reason I find the
Speaker 1: Saints to be a construction of Hey, we've got Drew
Speaker 1: Brees put us on national television a bunch of times,
Speaker 1: but you have an incomplete team. Okay, they're all three,
Speaker 1: they're done. What about the Falcons? Are they better than
Speaker 1: we thought? That just said I think their offenses has
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities this season. Part of it's their schedule.
Speaker 1: They played a really easy schedule and they're about to
Speaker 1: play I believe the Broncos, Seahawks, and another in Carolina
Speaker 1: in the next three weeks, so they're going to be tested.
Speaker 1: But this Matt Ryan think the idea that he was
Speaker 1: now mediocre quarterback. I never bought that. You can't extract
Speaker 1: the quarterback play from his teammates. They had Julio Jones
Speaker 1: and no win else last year. And now you've got,
Speaker 1: I think, a backfield that is in the running for
Speaker 1: the best complimentary backfield in the NFL the way Kyle
Speaker 1: Shannon is using Tavonta Freeman and Tevin Campbell, and you've
Speaker 1: got speed up wide receiver. Now Mohamed Sanoo has been injured,
Speaker 1: but you can throw in al Aldrick Robinson who runs
Speaker 1: a four three forty Taylor Gabriel used to be with
Speaker 1: the Browns, and throw those guys in for fifteen to
Speaker 1: twenty plays a game. Kyle Shannon's getting production out of these.
Speaker 1: We We've talked about on our a YouTube hit which
Speaker 1: you guys can check out or on NFL dot com
Speaker 1: about that Josh McDaniel sweepstakes. Kyle Shanahan, to me is
Speaker 1: another guy who could be a head coaching candidate because
Speaker 1: dan Quinn hasn't improved this defense at all. It's probably
Speaker 1: worse than when when Mike smith uh left. The defense
Speaker 1: is bad three straight weeks. The offense. Yes, they're playing
Speaker 1: the Raiders and the Saints. They scored what was it,
Speaker 1: how many straight touchdowns? You don't see that in the
Speaker 1: NFI Against the Raiders. They scored six out of seven
Speaker 1: drives at one point, including three touchdown drives in a
Speaker 1: row that were two minutes and forty five seconds and under.
Speaker 1: So you can say, okay, they're playing a bad defense. Well,
Speaker 1: the Giant score didn't score a touchdown against the Saints.
Speaker 1: The Titans scored ten points against the Raiders, so you
Speaker 1: have to give the Falcons some credit. They have one
Speaker 1: of the most explosive offenses right now until proven otherwise.
Speaker 1: And I want to say DeVante Freeman looked incredible in
Speaker 1: this game. And our old friend Jari's bird right now,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's been healthy in three plus years,
Speaker 1: and at a certain point you gotta take him out
Speaker 1: of the line up because he was he looked like
Speaker 1: lost a couple of plays to the point where he's
Speaker 1: falling on his ass. He had a couple of good
Speaker 1: games to start the year. But this is a team
Speaker 1: who is has an undrafted rookie Ken Crawley who is
Speaker 1: gonna be what fifth on their depth chart as their
Speaker 1: number one cornerback because they lost four players out of
Speaker 1: their secondary. It's like they don't have a choice. They
Speaker 1: can't blitz because they can't cover. They can't do anything special.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the most talent poor defense in
Speaker 1: the NFL. I think the Saints are going to come
Speaker 1: up a little later in the show, but let's move
Speaker 1: on the team great right to shine up. It's a
Speaker 1: very special higher. I like when they dig into the
Speaker 1: rich second verse of that song. We don't always hear
Speaker 1: that there's actually a bohemian rapsody version of the song.
Speaker 1: It's like nine minutes long. That gets into the back
Speaker 1: stories of all our lives. It's very explains when we
Speaker 1: were around the League versus around the NFL. That's why, yes,
Speaker 1: good point anybody asks asking questions. For about one episodes,
Speaker 1: we were the Around the League podcast, and the changeover
Speaker 1: happened right about the time Dick Banks, who composed that song, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, recorded it and we didn't want to change it.
Speaker 1: We like it. Team of at L, team of a T.
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing, all right now. Let me
Speaker 1: set the set the groundwork. He set the ground floor,
Speaker 1: set the gonauld the ground floor, build the ground floor.
Speaker 1: Here um the team of around the NFL, the team
Speaker 1: that we collectively will root for together. We had a
Speaker 1: nomination process a couple of weeks back, and through that
Speaker 1: nomination process, the following teams were up for nomination as
Speaker 1: the team of a t L Mark Sessler, the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Bengals Chris Westling, the Tennessee Titans, the Old Zeus or
Speaker 1: the Oakland Raiders uh Greg Rosen withal the Tampa Bay Bucks.
Speaker 1: Mark Um moved away from the Bengals, and I believe
Speaker 1: Mark is officially uh putting the Minnesota Vikings in as
Speaker 1: his nominee in this in this game. Are you along
Speaker 1: with us on this, Mark? Oh? Yes, that's not news. Okay, alright,
Speaker 1: So the Vikings are in, and so those are the
Speaker 1: four teams right now before we go around the horn
Speaker 1: here and I'll just some basic facts here. The Vikings
Speaker 1: are three and oh and obviously playing tremendous football, especially
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. Uh. And the
Speaker 1: other teams are one in two, Titans, two and one, Raiders,
Speaker 1: one in two, Bucks and the Bengals marks the original
Speaker 1: team or one and two. So things not looking so
Speaker 1: good right now in terms of win loss record, But
Speaker 1: that's not really Greg what it's all about. Now. The
Speaker 1: Panthers when we chose them, I believe in two thousand
Speaker 1: thirteen were I think they started the year three and
Speaker 1: three and we chose them in the middle of that.
Speaker 1: All right, So I want everyone to now have an
Speaker 1: open mind, open hearts, and we might not choose a
Speaker 1: team we're laying out there. We're not gonna force anything.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be a unanimous vote to pick a team. Uh.
Speaker 1: We might have to adjourn this to a later date
Speaker 1: if we have to. Let's see how it plays out. Mark.
Speaker 1: We're gonna start with you, Uh. Mark set the ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen again explained to us why the Vikings should
Speaker 1: be the team of a t You. It starts for
Speaker 1: me with the coach that I've been talking about all
Speaker 1: offseason into this season, Mike Zimmer, who you know what
Speaker 1: I think thirty one. Other teams can look around and say,
Speaker 1: how do we had a vacancy? We should have thought
Speaker 1: about this guy a lot sooner than we did. But
Speaker 1: you know what, I think he is who he is
Speaker 1: because he came to it late in life. Mike Zimmer
Speaker 1: has shown incredible resilience no matter what's happened to this team.
Speaker 1: Who would have thought you lose your starting quarterback, you
Speaker 1: lose the best running back on the planet, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna be three and oh and it seems with this
Speaker 1: entire locker room completely believes in themselves. I love their players,
Speaker 1: Stephon digs on offense. They've got a very stacked defense.
Speaker 1: I've been through it before. This is my team, and
Speaker 1: if anyone chooses to sign up with me, there is
Speaker 1: one caveat. You have to believe it too. I don't
Speaker 1: want if they if the Kings, because I don't care
Speaker 1: if the Vikings go six and ten, they're my team.
Speaker 1: If someone else is looking for an NFC, you know,
Speaker 1: playoff game win, I don't want to hear about it.
Speaker 1: If things don't go your way. If you sign up
Speaker 1: for it, it's because you want it. That man believes
Speaker 1: what he's saying Mark Sessler Ladies and Gentlemen has officially
Speaker 1: nominated in the Minnesota, but if hears about the rules
Speaker 1: at the end of that, I just the one any
Speaker 1: I don't want any flak in the Cube farm. The
Speaker 1: Vikings might have been a bad idea, like I just
Speaker 1: don't want to hear any lip from anyone. Well, but
Speaker 1: you were allowed to like other teams to you know,
Speaker 1: in our hearts, we know what you're saying. Mark. If
Speaker 1: we choose as a collective the Minnesota Vikings, they are
Speaker 1: our team, so there can be no backbiting. Since we're in.
Speaker 1: We're in together now, Chris Westling, we move on to um. Chris,
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans you were very high on in the preseason.
Speaker 1: You publicly broke up with them on Twitter during Sunday's
Speaker 1: Week three game. Question to you now, Wes Um, who
Speaker 1: will replace the Titans as a nominee if anyone? Such
Speaker 1: a hard question because the number one factor of all
Speaker 1: the factors that go into a team of a t
Speaker 1: L for me is always when I get home from
Speaker 1: a long Sunday of watching football, who's the team I
Speaker 1: want to turn on immediately on game pass? And there
Speaker 1: is no team there's no team that has replaced the
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen Arizona Cardinals. Wow, cleaning up two NFL teams?
Speaker 1: Clean it up? Sorry, it does this year. I want
Speaker 1: to remind the audience to to refrain from any type
Speaker 1: of reactions like that. This is an honest discussion with
Speaker 1: open minds and open hearts. Go ahead, West. So, since
Speaker 1: no one has replaced the two fifteen Arizona Cardinals, and
Speaker 1: since I believe one of the worst mistakes we ever
Speaker 1: did in this segment was jumping on a Chargers team
Speaker 1: that peaked too early, I don't think it's a good
Speaker 1: idea to chase three and O records for team of
Speaker 1: a t L. I'm gonna stay with the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: as my nomination. Interesting, Interesting, especially because the Arizona Cardinals
Speaker 1: are not playing well right now. West, that is a
Speaker 1: nomination that you believe they will turn it around. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you're still rooting for him, still rooting for him, and
Speaker 1: I think the best is yet to come. All right,
Speaker 1: that's good? I like that. Yeah. West brings back the
Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals, last year's team around the NFL. And by
Speaker 1: the way, there are no rules uh to say that
Speaker 1: you cannot come back and have a back to back
Speaker 1: team of atl not. Why not? Nowhere in the by
Speaker 1: laws is that said. Nor are there by laws well
Speaker 1: not officially, but you know, maybe maybe someone at home
Speaker 1: has created by laws. Someone will within a week. I
Speaker 1: remember West wanted to bring back the Chargers for a
Speaker 1: second season last year. We said, no, not a great idea.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna forget that. That whole thing ever happened.
Speaker 1: I think, um, the next the next team I will
Speaker 1: now go. And yes, the Oakland Raiders were my pick
Speaker 1: three weeks ago. Um, I'm going to stick with the
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders. And UM, no, now am I going to
Speaker 1: say that? I think right now they're the most thrilling
Speaker 1: team in the league. No. Is their defense problematic? We've
Speaker 1: obviously talked about that. Um, but I thought there was
Speaker 1: some progress, uh in the last week's game against Tennessee,
Speaker 1: even though they were um playing the Titans who were
Speaker 1: lost with Malarkey. But let me tell you the number
Speaker 1: one reason why I believe the Oakland Raiders should remain
Speaker 1: or be the team of around the NFL. And I
Speaker 1: didn't bring it up during the nomination process. Tell us, ever,
Speaker 1: hear of a woman by the name of Little Debbie. Hey, Debbie,
Speaker 1: you there, there's a girl, Little Debbie. Gould have you
Speaker 1: back on the show. This is a surprise. Marks blushing
Speaker 1: right now, not at all. We want to hear from
Speaker 1: you about the why should we pick the Raiders as
Speaker 1: our team this season? Well, why shouldn't the Raiders be
Speaker 1: the show's team? Who else is balling like like them?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know we're balling right now. Harders
Speaker 1: are doing good, but who cares? And honestly, the RAM sucks,
Speaker 1: so of course it should be the Raiders. A lot
Speaker 1: of true things. Now, Listen, Little Debbie is from the
Speaker 1: Bay Area. She represents she's loyal to the cause up
Speaker 1: there in Oaktown? Is that? Does that? Check out? Ohtown?
Speaker 1: Where we gonna do that? Yeah? That's cool, all right, Oaktown?
Speaker 1: And she sees the Raiders as an up and coming team.
Speaker 1: Who are we to go against Little Debbie? Well, plus,
Speaker 1: let's let's be honest being a Raiders fan, it's not
Speaker 1: even just about the team. Back back me up on this,
Speaker 1: little Debbie. I mean, what are you The Raiders culture
Speaker 1: mean to you? They're kind of the badasses of the NFL,
Speaker 1: like we are. The bad asses of the around the NFL.
Speaker 1: It's NFL media, let's come down with that one. But
Speaker 1: there is something to that. The Raiders are the bad
Speaker 1: boys of the league. You're kind of like the bad
Speaker 1: girl of hip hop a little Debbie in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways. That's part of the process as well, isn't it. Well?
Speaker 1: And I'm just like I was born in Oakland, Like
Speaker 1: like I said before, I'm true to my soil. And
Speaker 1: that's as as a girl that doesn't watch too much football. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I have to stick with the Raiders, you know,
Speaker 1: But but I feel like all Bay Area football teams
Speaker 1: are very influential and very good doing great things. Right now,
Speaker 1: let's say we go in another direction. You know, there's
Speaker 1: thirty one other teams to pick from. What is your
Speaker 1: attitude towards the four of us? If we don't get
Speaker 1: this done according to your wishes? But if we do
Speaker 1: not choose the Raiders with that change how you felt
Speaker 1: about us? Is what Mark's saying. I think, Uh, No,
Speaker 1: I love you guys anyway. Oh I love you too,
Speaker 1: Little Debbie. Hey, do you have any concerns about the
Speaker 1: Raiders defense through three weeks? No, They're like, didn't they
Speaker 1: do good. Lastly, they're doing better, right, absolutely, yeah, they're
Speaker 1: rolling on it. They've won two out of three games
Speaker 1: and their defense really did step up, held their opponent
Speaker 1: on Sunday and just ten points. So Debbie's plugged in too,
Speaker 1: so don't proten. And they're playing the Ravens next, right,
Speaker 1: take that. Even knows the schedule, she's the best a
Speaker 1: Little Debbie. I'm on top of it. You know, hey,
Speaker 1: we should know your schedule, what's going on? What's going
Speaker 1: on next with you? Got any of those uh wacky
Speaker 1: tobacco festivals coming up? Um, actually one just passed, but
Speaker 1: I'm doing another one in October, and I'll definitely let
Speaker 1: you guys know when and how that's gonna go, and
Speaker 1: you guys should come. We can maybe do a do
Speaker 1: a show from there, do an episode from there, and uh,
Speaker 1: yes you can get Little Debbie's latest album is available
Speaker 1: in iTunes and all other means of um share able music. Correct,
Speaker 1: Yeah her on Twitter to alright, so make sure you
Speaker 1: check that out. Little Debbie was a blessing to have
Speaker 1: you here. We have to get you back in the
Speaker 1: studio too, because, uh, you know, talking to a Little
Speaker 1: Debbie is always a fun thing for us. But little
Speaker 1: Debbie is one of the crew. That's next level stuff. Alright, yes,
Speaker 1: what was that little Debbie? I said, squad, We're sure
Speaker 1: al right, little Debbie, you're the best. See you later.
Speaker 1: Thank you by give it up for a little Debbie. Everybody, alright.
Speaker 1: I don't need to say anything else top that. That
Speaker 1: was compelling. That was compelling because we could ask you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to get into negotiations with her on
Speaker 1: the air. It would go through her agent. But let's
Speaker 1: be honest, we could ask her to maybe drop some bars,
Speaker 1: make a new team of at l song. Big Banks
Speaker 1: doesn't like that. Out the rain. Gregg's nomination of the
Speaker 1: Patriots will ruggle after what we've just heard. All right,
Speaker 1: so let's let's before we go to Greg uh Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: the Vikings, Chris Westling, the Cardinals and the old Juser
Speaker 1: and Little Debbie the Raiders, and now well the Bucks
Speaker 1: are the team of th ch Al. That's my team.
Speaker 1: But you guys hate the Bucks. There's no chance that
Speaker 1: they have. It's an uphill battle. I see you, guys.
Speaker 1: Let's let's call it like it is. It's it's a
Speaker 1: west thing. He doesn't like Mark. Mark doesn't I thought,
Speaker 1: But it's okay, I get it. Park has bitched about
Speaker 1: the Bucks everybody as much as I. Yes, that is
Speaker 1: absolutely true. It is I that's it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: the Texans came up for a bit. I would have
Speaker 1: stood it the way I get it. It's not logical.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I'm still going to enjoy watching Jamis
Speaker 1: Winston this year. But I don't need to be Hugh
Speaker 1: Jackson and have a positive outlook and try to lift
Speaker 1: up a team that has no chance, no offense to
Speaker 1: the Browns, none taking Greg. So I have chanced. I
Speaker 1: have changed open hearts, open minds. I'm changing my nomination
Speaker 1: and this is a long shot too. Uh. And I
Speaker 1: do worry about chasing a good record. But you said
Speaker 1: it in terms of what teams do you want to watch?
Speaker 1: I like watching the Eagles. I mean I always like
Speaker 1: watching the Eagles. I like watching Carson Wentz. That is
Speaker 1: the team I turned on first on Sunday night. So
Speaker 1: it got me thinking they are the team. And uh,
Speaker 1: I picked them to win the division every single year
Speaker 1: for no reason. Why not? The Eagles defense just excited
Speaker 1: about the Eagles. But now you have the added benefit
Speaker 1: of the most exciting young quarterback in the league. Exactly
Speaker 1: a fun a fun team. They're not going to be perfect,
Speaker 1: but a defense that flies around in a young QB.
Speaker 1: Can I ask a question to the quiet storm? Yes? Please?
Speaker 1: Is there any concerns or does the Carson Wentz issue
Speaker 1: with you as a Browns fan? Would that preclude you
Speaker 1: from getting behind the Eagles as the team of a
Speaker 1: t O. I'm gonna kind of explain this. I I
Speaker 1: don't take anything away from Carson Wentz, and I totally
Speaker 1: see what Greg's talking about because either a team that
Speaker 1: kind of came out of absolute nowhere, and it's not
Speaker 1: just Carson Wentz, it's their defense too. There's a lot
Speaker 1: to like about what's happening there. So taking nothing away
Speaker 1: from the Eagles, but I I just feel cemented and
Speaker 1: tied to my choice. It would feel kind of weird
Speaker 1: for me suddenly to be tweeting and being like, hey,
Speaker 1: look at me. I'm supporting the Eagles, this team of
Speaker 1: a t L like you know which Bengals fans already
Speaker 1: have seen me do this? Uh as I shifted to
Speaker 1: the Vikings, So I respect your move. Greg Um. I
Speaker 1: cannot support you. I expected that. I just want to
Speaker 1: throw another team out there. If I didn't have a team,
Speaker 1: I might sign up for that. So the Eagles are
Speaker 1: not an option to saying not Mark, Are they for
Speaker 1: everyone else? Does anyone else? Would anyone else rule them out?
Speaker 1: Or does anyone else like I would not rule them out,
Speaker 1: not rule out the Eagles. But if you're if you
Speaker 1: feel strong, well, I I think what I laid out
Speaker 1: initially was, is it do you want to drag me
Speaker 1: along for the ride? Or can I be maybe our
Speaker 1: our two teams of a t L would meet in
Speaker 1: the playoffs that we could have phone with that when
Speaker 1: But I want to keep the group together. So that's
Speaker 1: why they are in opposition. Not only did they play
Speaker 1: each other, I believe in week seven or eight, you
Speaker 1: know they gotta have Bradford versus Wentz. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a this is a lot of connective tissues. This
Speaker 1: is a no judgment zone. And if you really don't
Speaker 1: think you can get behind the Eagles, it's not gonna
Speaker 1: be uh, you know, dump on Mark. I will say
Speaker 1: that it's not like the Steelers or well, and it's
Speaker 1: exactly like the Big Ben Just essentially it's twelve years later.
Speaker 1: But it's get it. Had the Jets passed on Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz and I was trying to tell you to take Hey,
Speaker 1: you know the Jacksonville Jaguars took Carson Wentz. Dan, you
Speaker 1: got to get excited about this. Where would your headspace?
Speaker 1: I'd probably probably be in the same place, But I again,
Speaker 1: I'd not begrudging. The three of you can go down
Speaker 1: a nice little road of your own, and I think
Speaker 1: you might do very very well. We don't want to
Speaker 1: leave you, we leave no man behind you. Well, then
Speaker 1: I'm not going to make a decision right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we'll keep them, keep them on the docket, and
Speaker 1: you know, just to keep them there. But the docket
Speaker 1: they have an up uphill climb. All right, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make a I'm gonna make a suggestion here. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's red time to vote on these new four
Speaker 1: teams yet. I think maybe we adjourn for a week
Speaker 1: or perhaps even two before making the final decision thrown
Speaker 1: out there. I think we try let's see what happens
Speaker 1: on Sunday. I don't know. We promised that people have vote.
Speaker 1: I just gone I'm with Dan on this. I don't
Speaker 1: think we're ready yet. I mean, Mark seems like he's
Speaker 1: dead set on the Vikings, which is cool and totally understandable.
Speaker 1: He could change his mind next week. I think the
Speaker 1: Vikings might have more support than he thinks in this room. Well,
Speaker 1: there are some other stuff to get we have. West
Speaker 1: is upset with the subreddit of the Vikings. Is that
Speaker 1: a hurdle that we won't be able to clear? And again,
Speaker 1: just like I respect Mark's reasons for me against the Eagles,
Speaker 1: I respect that that is where you come down. On
Speaker 1: the Viking subreddit. They unleased some personal attacks on the
Speaker 1: three of you and Mark Mark got over that. I
Speaker 1: don't like that they attacked. I'm I like the Vikings too.
Speaker 1: I think one of their conceits was that we were
Speaker 1: behind the ball on the Vikings last season. And I
Speaker 1: don't care what their conceits are. Whatever your conceits are,
Speaker 1: you don't go personally attacking people. Got petties what West
Speaker 1: is saying, and and we'll West is right to feel
Speaker 1: that way. But let's keep things open and we okay
Speaker 1: to adjourn for one week. We can't drag it out
Speaker 1: too far. We cannot do we want to do one
Speaker 1: week or two weeks. I think we said we'd see
Speaker 1: where we are one week, because a lot can happen
Speaker 1: on Sunday. Okay, we adjourned for one week with our
Speaker 1: new teams, the Vikings, Cardinals, Raiders and Eagles. There you go. Hey,
Speaker 1: we worked through it, guys, It's a process. Anybody that's
Speaker 1: frustrated right now that thought, oh you guys suck. You
Speaker 1: should have had a team pick by now, it's important
Speaker 1: that we get this right. That's the most important thing.
Speaker 1: And I want to apologize to Bucks fans for deserting them.
Speaker 1: It was a political move for the sake of the
Speaker 1: entertainment of the show. Well, that is a that is
Speaker 1: a shot at me, basically, that's what that is. What
Speaker 1: are you talking about, Greg is saying, look at how
Speaker 1: selfless I am to rally and pick a team that
Speaker 1: I know the other the two guys on the on
Speaker 1: board with And I'll say, you know, listen, sorry to
Speaker 1: Bucks fans. I just had to do what was right
Speaker 1: for everyone. I was not remotely thinking about you, thank you,
Speaker 1: tape fly Adio. I wasn't even thinking about I don't
Speaker 1: think about you ever. Um okay, And a basic tenant
Speaker 1: of journalism happens downstairs in our newsroom. You don't have
Speaker 1: to be first, you do have to be right, and
Speaker 1: that's why we're not voting. Let's move on. I don't
Speaker 1: want to be first or right. I don't get either right,
Speaker 1: But let's move on alright, the return of our annual series,
Speaker 1: UH stick a fork in him, where we we decide,
Speaker 1: we throw down the gauntlet and make the decision which
Speaker 1: teams have no chance of making the postseason? Uh. And
Speaker 1: as the weeks go along, we will add teams to
Speaker 1: the list of the damned and um to start, UM,
Speaker 1: we want to look at teams that are And by
Speaker 1: the way, if we get any of these wrong, if
Speaker 1: we if we decide that a team is forked, forked
Speaker 1: hard and they go on to make the postseason? Is
Speaker 1: it happened twice last year with both the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: the Redskins, we will make a donation. Yeah, or was
Speaker 1: it the Texans? Did we? I think it was three teams?
Speaker 1: Good job? I don't even we did great. We will
Speaker 1: make a donation to a local charity where that team
Speaker 1: plays as we did last year. Yes, we'll do We'll
Speaker 1: say we will do it all year and then not
Speaker 1: actually do it. That's also another road. I mean, whatever happens,
Speaker 1: a donation will be made or it won't, but we
Speaker 1: will say we'll make it. There will be a donation
Speaker 1: made to just not be made by us, or it
Speaker 1: will maybe, you know, maybe we're feeling charitable come the
Speaker 1: end of the season and we have a little extra change. Listen,
Speaker 1: I got a kid, I got another on the way.
Speaker 1: I gotta pay our rent. It's not like I have
Speaker 1: a ton of money to be throwing around to charitable foundations.
Speaker 1: Does that make me a bad guy? You decide? We
Speaker 1: squandered an opportunity to throw this into the negotiations for
Speaker 1: our sponsorship. You know, you know what happened. We got flamed.
Speaker 1: We make the Netherlands paid donations to us out of here.
Speaker 1: They wanted this day longer. Get them out, get them out.
Speaker 1: Um okay, So anyway, we'll do this in a very
Speaker 1: basic method. We'll just keep it, keep it very straightforward.
Speaker 1: There are four oh and three teams in the league
Speaker 1: right now. And we learned this statistic via Sean McDonough
Speaker 1: and Jake Gruden or John Gruden on the Monday Night
Speaker 1: Football telecast last night. Since the two thousand two division realignment,
Speaker 1: which is how many seasons now, two thousand six, two
Speaker 1: fourteen seasons? Maybe this would be the fifteen last time
Speaker 1: your Raiders made the playoffs. Right in the fourteen seasons
Speaker 1: since the divisions realigned, no team that has started owing
Speaker 1: three has gone on to make the playoffs. So it
Speaker 1: is history tells us and West, as you say all
Speaker 1: the time about history, it is instructive. That's where West
Speaker 1: says when I, when I make the West, pull string dollars,
Speaker 1: sell it and make billions of dollars, that will be
Speaker 1: one of the things that said, it's about me. History
Speaker 1: is instructive. You know a bunch of great phrases. I've
Speaker 1: only said it's about me one time, and when I
Speaker 1: said it really was about me, it got taken out
Speaker 1: of context. It was iconic West. Anyway, history is instructive.
Speaker 1: So the three, the four teams here history tells us
Speaker 1: are done. So there's nothing bold if we decide to
Speaker 1: fork them. But we need to have it again. The
Speaker 1: unanimous vote the New Orleans Saints, the Jacksonville Jaguars, the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, and the Chicago Bears, all oh in three um,
Speaker 1: all in favor of forking all four teams say yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Sure a little hesitation there from you, Greg, who's giving
Speaker 1: you a little pause? Let me guess the Saints. No,
Speaker 1: the Jaguars would probably be the team because their environment
Speaker 1: that you know, the South, or the team quarterbacks broken.
Speaker 1: Does the history thing do any do anything for you?
Speaker 1: The fact that it just has never happened, but how
Speaker 1: many Yes, of course it does. That's why I said yes.
Speaker 1: But it wouldn't be surprising to me to see the
Speaker 1: Jaguars in the mix at some point in a lousy division.
Speaker 1: They're losing each game by a few points. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Saints are a good example, Like they wouldn't be
Speaker 1: in this so in three crop if they had hit
Speaker 1: a kick or if you know, they didn't lose it
Speaker 1: the last second against the Giants. Like that's just how
Speaker 1: the NFL goes. I don't think there's so much different.
Speaker 1: And then some teams that are two and one that
Speaker 1: are well, some of those teams have out. They got
Speaker 1: some teams they've lost too, but a little different in
Speaker 1: the NFC, and I think someone you know in the
Speaker 1: NFC South, I don't think the Saints are coming back
Speaker 1: by and if any of those teams made the playoffs,
Speaker 1: it would be the story of the year. Um and
Speaker 1: I do want to say, you know, if you really
Speaker 1: do have actual hesitation, because we gotta want to be
Speaker 1: careful of this. We gotta get it right. Let's not
Speaker 1: mess up any teams this year. If you want to
Speaker 1: wait one more week on the Jags, they'll win this week,
Speaker 1: I think in London. But it doesn't matter. Okay, So
Speaker 1: you're okay shocked if they won this week, I'm good. Okay. Well,
Speaker 1: so that's right off the bat. We have forked, four teams,
Speaker 1: forked hard. Get the fork out of here. Did not
Speaker 1: take long for that Jaguars hype train to be derailed. Well,
Speaker 1: it shows how much can happen in three weeks. Thank
Speaker 1: god we didn't listen to the of people on Twitter
Speaker 1: who wanted us to choose the Jags for a team
Speaker 1: of all. Right now, there's some one in two teams.
Speaker 1: In fact, there's a lot of one and two teams.
Speaker 1: They're gonna put it. I'm gonna guess in the neighborhood
Speaker 1: of about ten teams out of the third the two
Speaker 1: in the league are sitting at one and two right now.
Speaker 1: But I want to bring up four of these teams,
Speaker 1: and then if I if there's one another one that
Speaker 1: jumps out to feel free to bring it up. First.
Speaker 1: One I'll throw out is a team with some unrest
Speaker 1: in the locker room. Got a much needed win in
Speaker 1: Week three on the road, but still a lot of
Speaker 1: signs that this is a flawed team and a potentially
Speaker 1: good division. The one in two Washington Redskins are thoughts
Speaker 1: on forking the Skins too much firepower, can't for them? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I need another week. I need to see. If they
Speaker 1: ever lost to Cleveland this week, you're gone. It should
Speaker 1: that be a general rule for all of these teams. Uh,
Speaker 1: Cleveland loss and you're gone, Not any team in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think could happen. But if if, if
Speaker 1: a struggling team loses to a what people think is
Speaker 1: the top bottom one or two teams, yes you're in
Speaker 1: trouble alright, So cross keep the Redskins alive for now.
Speaker 1: How about another one and two team. They won their
Speaker 1: opener a shutout win, a dominant shutout one win, and
Speaker 1: the opener have since lost two straight. These Francisco forty
Speaker 1: Niners and Chip Kelly, We're gonna count out Chip before
Speaker 1: October strikes. I would have had no problem forking three
Speaker 1: teams before the season started, and that would have been
Speaker 1: the Bears, Browns and forty Niners. Nothing they have shown
Speaker 1: has changed my mind. Despite winning the game, I'd for
Speaker 1: them for them talent poor, Yeah, they're not They're not
Speaker 1: making the playoffs number one, and that's what this is about.
Speaker 1: And they were giving up about you know, can you
Speaker 1: please give up more points per week? After having a
Speaker 1: shout out there there, I didn't get my vote yet,
Speaker 1: but yes, I wish you did correctly predict that. I
Speaker 1: also will fork them as well. The forty Niners are
Speaker 1: done Irish no taxation without representative bizarre. The bizarre dominant
Speaker 1: defensive Monday Night performance to start the season by San
Speaker 1: Francisco is one of the strangest two years in the
Speaker 1: year in the league. I do kind of I will
Speaker 1: say both to the UH, to this group and also
Speaker 1: society at large of follows football. No, but he got
Speaker 1: sucked in by the one that happened this year though.
Speaker 1: It was the Rams showing up unprepared UH to play
Speaker 1: football in the regular sea and we took it. We
Speaker 1: sure are. We took advantage of that um. The next
Speaker 1: team I will bring up is in the a f
Speaker 1: C a f C East. They are also one of
Speaker 1: the right. Um. If he throws six more interceptions on Sunday,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. But anyway, the team I'm referring to,
Speaker 1: of course, or there's two options here, the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: are one and two. Uh. They lost a narrow decision
Speaker 1: to the Seattle Seahawks on the road in Week one,
Speaker 1: then fell behind huge to the Patriots on the road,
Speaker 1: came back and but then just fell short. And then
Speaker 1: they needed not only um uh three misses from Cody Parkey,
Speaker 1: the Cleveland kicker, but then a touchdown and overtime to
Speaker 1: defeat the Ounds at home in Week three. Their upcoming
Speaker 1: schedule at Cincinnati, home to Cincinnati, home at Cincinnati, home
Speaker 1: to Tennessee, home to Pittsburgh, home to Buffalo, Bye week.
Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins, it's tougher, one yea, not a lot tougher.
Speaker 1: They got outplayed by the Browns last week. I would
Speaker 1: I would say, I'm inclined to say even if they're
Speaker 1: in it in December, Tannehill will ruin it for them
Speaker 1: and they'll fall apart down the stretch like they always
Speaker 1: do well. Part of the reason we're doing stick a
Speaker 1: forking fork and him is their most famous fan, Handsome
Speaker 1: Hank didn't what doesn't He just so annoyed with this
Speaker 1: team that he almost wanted us to fork them, did he?
Speaker 1: He reached out to me yesterday on um our it's
Speaker 1: the messenger client that shall but shall not be named
Speaker 1: because it's run by garbage people, and was pushing hard
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins to be done because he said there
Speaker 1: was no scenario by which they could win enough games
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. Um here's the thing though, Still,
Speaker 1: you know I'm not ready to say goodbye to the
Speaker 1: Dolphins yet. I would like to wait another week. Are
Speaker 1: you doing this just to stick it to Henry? Maybe
Speaker 1: I am. I I've been told by Henry that I'm
Speaker 1: to anti Dolphins on this podcast. Well I'm gonna well
Speaker 1: he is. He is anti Dolphins. We like when the
Speaker 1: Browns and in the in the Miami played last week.
Speaker 1: We instead of putting, you know, lunch on it or
Speaker 1: a big dinner as we've done in the past. He
Speaker 1: had me write a Tim Tebow book report at one time,
Speaker 1: which I never did. I we bet a pat of
Speaker 1: butter from the huddle, because that's the stakes that kind
Speaker 1: of a game had. I'll give the Dolphins one more week.
Speaker 1: But uh my, the only reason is I look up
Speaker 1: and down the a f C and a lot of
Speaker 1: bad teams in the a f C. Does Handsome Hanks
Speaker 1: strike you as a man who pays up on his wagers? Well?
Speaker 1: I lost, so I laid up. Let me let me
Speaker 1: step in here. Remember he wrote a detailed book review
Speaker 1: back in the day and Amazon book review. What was
Speaker 1: the book again? It was Kurt Warner's uh call a wife,
Speaker 1: She wrote in a wonderful biography autobiography. Why are you
Speaker 1: making a face like that when you say it was
Speaker 1: remembering what the book is when you write about your life.
Speaker 1: Randell Warner wrote a book about football, faith and marriage.
Speaker 1: And if you want to track that down, Henry wrote
Speaker 1: what amounted to about a three hundred four hundred job.
Speaker 1: So I would say he does own up. That was
Speaker 1: back when he was owning up. Let the records show
Speaker 1: that we've seen Henry using a fork. Oh and he
Speaker 1: vowed that if the Redskins made the playoffs last year,
Speaker 1: he would never use a fork again. Okay, that's a
Speaker 1: fair point. I mean that's you're right, okay, Well, handsome
Speaker 1: hand as much follow through as our charity endeavor, we're
Speaker 1: working on that. We're working on that, all right. So
Speaker 1: the Dolphins we're gonna hold for a week. Were you
Speaker 1: ready for him? I hadn't decided. I was listening to
Speaker 1: the room. But we're gonna hold. I think it's cruel
Speaker 1: of you, Dan to let them twist in the wind
Speaker 1: for another week, Stu fun let's stay in the a
Speaker 1: f C East now and talk about the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: Um a team that, yes, with their back against the wall,
Speaker 1: they beat the Arizona Carlos, beat up on the Arizona Cardinals,
Speaker 1: uh in their building. But listen to their schedule the
Speaker 1: next two weeks already at one and two. Now they
Speaker 1: go to New England, who you know, still with either
Speaker 1: a banged up Jimmy Garoppolo or Jake Brisket. Perhaps slice
Speaker 1: me off that Jake Bristol. But here's a look at
Speaker 1: the upcoming schedule for the Bills. At New England in
Speaker 1: week four, at l A in week five, and at
Speaker 1: New England. Is gonna be a tough game, even though
Speaker 1: it might be a banged up Jimmy Garoppolo Garoppolo or
Speaker 1: a banged up Jake Brisket. Uh, you still think that
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a very tough game. Our thoughts on
Speaker 1: the Bills will start with you, Mark, Well, I know
Speaker 1: what you're gonna say, Mark, No, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: I watched them play the Cardinals today and uh, they
Speaker 1: beat them up, as you said, I mean they were
Speaker 1: they it was at home, and that Buffalo wins one
Speaker 1: game like that a season at least. But that's a
Speaker 1: game that everyone thought they were gonna go in three.
Speaker 1: I don't see them getting past the Patriots, but they
Speaker 1: could be two and three after win at the Rams.
Speaker 1: Then they have the forty niners and the Dolphins. So
Speaker 1: I'm not going to eliminate the Bills when I think
Speaker 1: they're a better football team than the Miami Dolphins right now,
Speaker 1: that's a that's a good way to look at I'm
Speaker 1: not saying they're good teams, just they're up there with
Speaker 1: where the Cardinals. No showed. That's what I attribute the
Speaker 1: Bills win to the Cardinals. No show. Wow, they but
Speaker 1: that there's a little more to don't you think you
Speaker 1: guys can take away whatever you want from the game.
Speaker 1: My takeaway was the Cardinals no show, and the Bills
Speaker 1: can beat the Patriots in New England, and I'd still
Speaker 1: vote to fork them next week. They're a bad team,
Speaker 1: They're a shallow team, and they have no offense. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna make the playoffs yet I wouldn't
Speaker 1: fork them just because I'm not in it. I'm not
Speaker 1: in a rush too, and you know, like dance around.
Speaker 1: These seasons are over after week three. Let's like play
Speaker 1: out a little team like the Bills. By the way,
Speaker 1: does it bother you that a team that you believe
Speaker 1: no showed would be a team of a t L?
Speaker 1: Do we want a no showing team to be the
Speaker 1: team we all support? Did bother me? Yes? That did
Speaker 1: bother me? Okay? Uh? The So those are the four? There?
Speaker 1: Any other one and two teams are there? I say
Speaker 1: two and one teams that you guys think should be
Speaker 1: forked after three games. Looking at the standings here, I
Speaker 1: don't see any other teams I would nominate. The Titans
Speaker 1: would certainly be the word. If I had to pick
Speaker 1: who's the worst team with one win? I would pick
Speaker 1: the Titans. You know, kind of when I was thinking
Speaker 1: about Okay, the Jaguars. What's the difference between them and
Speaker 1: some other teams? Are the Saints? To me that the
Speaker 1: Titans have been one of the worst teams in the NFL.
Speaker 1: They had a one point when which was nice, you know,
Speaker 1: a comeback again a team that was decimated. They haven't
Speaker 1: really shown me much. But I again, I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: really anxious to go crazy forking so early because this
Speaker 1: season is long. I mean that the Chiefs were oh
Speaker 1: in five last year, we've forked them. We would have
Speaker 1: never I think we've forked about Owen three. We would
Speaker 1: have never considered what they what they ended up accomplishing.
Speaker 1: I don't see the Titans doing that. But it's too
Speaker 1: early to give up on them. And you did have
Speaker 1: your bit earlier about the Jets, but I will say no,
Speaker 1: I would not if they don't. If they don't find
Speaker 1: a way to pull together three weeks, I'm just gonna say,
Speaker 1: if they fought to one in three on Sunday and
Speaker 1: then they have back to back trips to Pittsburgh and Arizona,
Speaker 1: they should be at least brought up for conversation at
Speaker 1: one and three. Not gonna be a homer on that
Speaker 1: it's no different than West's take on the Bills that
Speaker 1: the thing is they have to make the playoffs. It's
Speaker 1: not oh, they might hang around and be a very
Speaker 1: sub average team. Well, he got to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And it's fair to say no on the rest of
Speaker 1: the NFC East if you feel that. And and it's
Speaker 1: always tricky to do it anything based on the schedule.
Speaker 1: We say this in the off season, and now it's
Speaker 1: starting to come home to rouse, like, we'll see if
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are a tough out, like, if that's a
Speaker 1: tough games. So far they haven't been particularly they've been
Speaker 1: and okay to you know, the middle of the road
Speaker 1: type of team. We'll see if that's a tough aut alright,
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's it right, guys. So the final teams
Speaker 1: anybody else, even when they want to throw out, okay,
Speaker 1: the final teams now forked. Your season's over. Sorry, guys,
Speaker 1: hate to be the bear bad news. Still listen to
Speaker 1: the pod because it's really If you're a fan of
Speaker 1: the podcast, you should enjoy the banter and also just
Speaker 1: football is fun. Well, plus it's been proven we can
Speaker 1: be wrong on this many times. You could stick it
Speaker 1: to us there's been your interest highly at the same
Speaker 1: time telling you your lopes are over. I believe in
Speaker 1: three years five teams that we've forked have made the playoffs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we're not infallible. We never have been and will
Speaker 1: probably wrong again. But five teams after Week three have
Speaker 1: been forked by the group. The New Orleans Saints, the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars, Cleveland Rounds, Chicago Bars in the San Francisco
Speaker 1: Fartie Niners. Goodbye, guys. Let's talk Thursday night football. Busy show, guys,
Speaker 1: busy show. Uh. Here is a game between a team
Speaker 1: that we were not ready to fork just yet, the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins, but they have a tough one on Thursday
Speaker 1: night in Cincinnati against the Bengals. Yes, you got it
Speaker 1: to one of two teams, a double wounded animal game,
Speaker 1: and you know I say that in Jess, but I
Speaker 1: also you know you fall to one of three, you're
Speaker 1: in deep trouble. So both these teams are gonna be desperate.
Speaker 1: But West, uh, it seems like this is a nice
Speaker 1: match up here for Cincinnati, a team that needs a
Speaker 1: win against let's face it, kind of a a weak
Speaker 1: willed Miami Dolphins squad. You could say week willing for
Speaker 1: what the past decade. Yeah, I don't know what's different
Speaker 1: about there. I don't know it's different about this team
Speaker 1: because I don't know what they do well other than
Speaker 1: get the bolt to Gavan Landry or Jarvis Landry and
Speaker 1: then Dominican sum cameraon wake play well. Rashad Jones is
Speaker 1: always at the line of scrimmage making plays. Other than that,
Speaker 1: they got nothing to hang their hat on, and the
Speaker 1: Bengals should clean up in this game. The Bengals haven't
Speaker 1: shown any proclivity to being a dominant type of team
Speaker 1: this year. They were very lucky to beat the Jets,
Speaker 1: and I think they were soundly beaten by two good
Speaker 1: teams in back to back seasons. They need to show
Speaker 1: what they do well because I was really surprised to
Speaker 1: see them go so run heavy against Denver. Uh, they
Speaker 1: go so pass happy the week before. They've really haven't
Speaker 1: rushed the pass or two. Well. The defensive line is
Speaker 1: something you think of as a strength. It's been okay.
Speaker 1: They they I think, want to prove to themselves that
Speaker 1: they can be that old sort of Bengals team, and
Speaker 1: I think they should. I think it's a good spot
Speaker 1: for them, and it's fair after all the changes and
Speaker 1: losing your you know, your top two wide receivers outside
Speaker 1: of A. J. Green during the off season, that it
Speaker 1: had an impact on this passing game. Geo Bernard is
Speaker 1: their second lead in target getter and C. J. Osama
Speaker 1: is the third. I mean they need Tyler Reifford back
Speaker 1: number one in that offense. I think this is a
Speaker 1: much better team than the Dolphins. They lost to the Steelers.
Speaker 1: I realized they have not you know, they're one and two,
Speaker 1: but they lost to the Steelers in Pittsburgh, which has
Speaker 1: always been an issue for the Bengals, and they lost
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl champions that have not slowed down
Speaker 1: from what we've seen there, there's good a teams last year.
Speaker 1: So I I don't have a problem with one and
Speaker 1: two for the Bengals at this point. They're not gonna
Speaker 1: stay in a in a losing column for long. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're confident they can protect Andy Dalton about
Speaker 1: after what happened in Week one. I think that's why
Speaker 1: that's part of the reason why they avoided it against Denver.
Speaker 1: I mean, they went crazy, run heavy. It was working
Speaker 1: for the most part, but it was a limited a
Speaker 1: limited offense, and in Week two it was kind of
Speaker 1: a similar story. And if the Dolphins have one thing,
Speaker 1: it's in dominance wu Cameron Wake maybe get a good
Speaker 1: game out of Mario Williams. I think that's their hope,
Speaker 1: is that they could have a good defensive line. The
Speaker 1: leading rusher for the Dolphins right now is Ryan Tannehill.
Speaker 1: Not a balanced offense. Ryan Tannehill is not a balanced quarterback.
Speaker 1: If you will, and let me say something, I listen,
Speaker 1: I went to Cincinnati last week. Is the team that
Speaker 1: I thought would be an absolute winner and they failed me.
Speaker 1: But they will not fail me two weeks in a row.
Speaker 1: Because guys not only think the Bangals are gonna win,
Speaker 1: They're gonna be my luck of the week. Don't let
Speaker 1: me down, Striped Cats, don't. I don't think they will.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins gave up two total yards of Terrell Prior
Speaker 1: last week and let made Isaiah Crowell look like a
Speaker 1: top running back. I mean, this is happening week after
Speaker 1: week with the Dolphins. And my big issue with them
Speaker 1: is that the better teams, no matter what happens to them,
Speaker 1: you're gonna get four quarters out of them. They're not
Speaker 1: going to be a different team before and after the
Speaker 1: half every week, and the Dolphins have been a schizophrenic
Speaker 1: organization week after week. You're good one, you're good in
Speaker 1: the first time, you're bad in the first half. You
Speaker 1: and you're in garbage time, you start to light it up.
Speaker 1: Garbage time has a lot to do with it. This
Speaker 1: is that one year try out potentially for Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: and Adam Gates. I don't think that this is necessarily
Speaker 1: a long term marriage. I think they would Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: for Ryan Tannehill. I think they would maybe give Adam
Speaker 1: Gatee the opportunity to draft a new quarterback if he
Speaker 1: didn't believe in Tannehill. After they're trying to think if
Speaker 1: I would like to see chan Gailey and Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: together in the middle ends, that might be crazy enough
Speaker 1: to work. I would talk myself into it and then
Speaker 1: probably suffer for multiple years. Um alright around the horn
Speaker 1: winner and score Mark Sesler Bengals thirty one, Dolphins nineteen
Speaker 1: nice nice score, Bengals twenty six Dolphins. I will go
Speaker 1: Bengals and a stinker Thursday Night stinker Bengals, Sorry, n
Speaker 1: AFIL Network, Dolphins six. Well in this annual game that's
Speaker 1: been on Thursday Night football year after year. That's provided
Speaker 1: us so many great memory memories like Cameron Wake's walk
Speaker 1: off safety. That was a great Remember that one. I'm
Speaker 1: going to Bengal alright, across the board the Bengals. That's
Speaker 1: the Thursday Night preview and remember watch the game, yeah,
Speaker 1: go ahead, watching an NFL network. And then after the
Speaker 1: game we'll have our full Week four preview up and
Speaker 1: kicking off the show with the scientists recapping the Thursday
Speaker 1: night affair. So that's how you do it, ladies and gentlemen. Um,
Speaker 1: And that is it for another edition of the Round
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. Now this is a sad day, UM
Speaker 1: because the great Irishman um our producer, a handsome young man,
Speaker 1: a playoff m v P of our Championship City Championship
Speaker 1: Softball Club. This is our last show with Brandon who
Speaker 1: ends his his temporary employment unfortunately with NFL media. Uh, Irishman,
Speaker 1: how you feeling at this time? Getting emotional? Getting emotional
Speaker 1: up there? You know we've loved having you here the
Speaker 1: second time. I am curious how you would like the
Speaker 1: listeners because we don't know if Brandon will be back
Speaker 1: He's a talented guy, and we hope that one day
Speaker 1: the NFL rings them in in a full time capacity,
Speaker 1: but we know that could be a challenge around these parts.
Speaker 1: And he's talented enough to get a good job elsewhere.
Speaker 1: But we we hope to see you again, but we
Speaker 1: know this could be the end. If this is your
Speaker 1: last show behind the glass, how do you want us
Speaker 1: to remember you? You know, I'm gonna let a guy
Speaker 1: smarter than me tell you would I rather be feared
Speaker 1: or loved? Um easy both. I want people to be
Speaker 1: afraid of how much they love me. And now I
Speaker 1: want to I want to speak on behalf of the
Speaker 1: entire around the NFL podcast group, uh and making the
Speaker 1: official announcement that we are making an addition pick up
Speaker 1: the chisels forever because the irishman Brandon mcguinnis he's going
Speaker 1: up on Mount Rushmore. Baby, get goods and borglum on
Speaker 1: the horn. Yes you will carve that now standing up,
Speaker 1: little carve that printy into the side of a mountain
Speaker 1: to join such lo manaries as k Rich No, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: the gold standard Sydney Lassie quality quartet right there, t D.
Speaker 1: We don't have to have just four faces on that Rushmore.
Speaker 1: If you're listening, we love you, t D the Irishman
Speaker 1: on Mount Rushmore. Your comments. I appreciate it, and truly
Speaker 1: do I. I honestly truly appreciate everything you guys have
Speaker 1: done for me here all kidding aside with Rushmore and
Speaker 1: all that. Um, I didn't make four friends, and I
Speaker 1: do appreciate it. That's what I love about this. He's
Speaker 1: a sincere person. And I will say that it's hard
Speaker 1: to go months and months with someone in NFL media
Speaker 1: not have one negative interaction. It's always I've always said
Speaker 1: positive interactions with it. And he battled for this. He
Speaker 1: battled from recognition on the softball team. He battled for this.
Speaker 1: Absolutely true. He's a battler. He's a battler, the old battler,
Speaker 1: the Irishman. And if you have to drive down from
Speaker 1: Sacramento every Thursday night to play softball, please do we
Speaker 1: need you? Baby? Did everybody give him the sandwiches? By
Speaker 1: the way, that is coming from me still at a time,
Speaker 1: we've we've arranged for me to get him one tomorrow.
Speaker 1: He loves all your interactions, but you know, the sandwich
Speaker 1: makis and cousins you guys, gotta you know we've already
Speaker 1: ranged it. Okay, good and we'll get a drink with
Speaker 1: the Irishman before uh he leaves us. But thank you
Speaker 1: Irishman for all your hard work. Welcome to Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 1: What an honor. Uh we will be back. Like I
Speaker 1: said late Thursday night will be the next time you
Speaker 1: hear from us. It will be after that Thursday night
Speaker 1: football game. So thank you to everyone for listening again.
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Speaker 1: for a quiet storm, the Mailman, the Boss and yes,
Speaker 1: one last time, the all your Richmond Brandon McGinnis until
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