Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast has picked up the Chisels.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Ands and I am joined by
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and
Speaker 1: Greg rosa Thal. What's up, boys? Hey? Dan? Whoa week three?
Speaker 1: You know the season is getting good when there's a
Speaker 1: pre pod argument about who's got it worse, Browns or
Speaker 1: Jets fans. Just to get everyone flowing before the old
Speaker 1: Paris start with Craig gleaming with smiles and giggles and laughter.
Speaker 1: Fortune of It's it's good for him to see Dan
Speaker 1: and market on each other while he just sits a
Speaker 1: thousand yards above us and joining his human human fate.
Speaker 1: Have a nice time with it. If ever, if ever
Speaker 1: there was a call for a thrown at these on Greg,
Speaker 1: It's that was ridiculous, Greig, the Jets have one of
Speaker 1: the more humiliating games in the franchise's history. The Browns
Speaker 1: forgot it a way to blow another one. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying it three O with like you know, I a
Speaker 1: any quarter. Yes you are, because it has absolutely woven
Speaker 1: into the Phoebrat fabric of who you are so you
Speaker 1: are three enough, your worldview and the way that you
Speaker 1: see football is very much linked to the fact that
Speaker 1: your team has dominated Earth for since the year two thousand.
Speaker 1: Just there's some things that don't tread in this territory
Speaker 1: with us. Okay, nobody wants you there, don't go in.
Speaker 1: Mark's been waiting to infer all that remark for at
Speaker 1: least since Thursday night. Well, I'm not going to be.
Speaker 1: I don't want Dan and I to be giggled at.
Speaker 1: That to me is a bridge too far. Now. Yeah, Mark,
Speaker 1: And before we get into all the games, Mark and
Speaker 1: I had a little disagreement right before we started because
Speaker 1: the nature of the Jets loss was you know, humiliating
Speaker 1: and and it was you know, coming off the heels
Speaker 1: of such a great win that instilled hope in the franchise.
Speaker 1: And I was just saying, it's it's more painful to
Speaker 1: think you have a chance and have it taken away,
Speaker 1: whereas Marks, in a situation where seemingly there's no hope
Speaker 1: at all, mineus great win. Right, There's no it's less fun,
Speaker 1: I would say, for sure as a Browns fan, but
Speaker 1: maybe a little more painful. That's that was my take.
Speaker 1: That's all we'll get. We'll get to those games. We will,
Speaker 1: but there are more important teams, more relevant teams. Let's
Speaker 1: face it, to talk about here in week three, uh
Speaker 1: in a week where we saw a lot of uh
Speaker 1: interesting things happening at the top of the NFC, folks,
Speaker 1: which could have a very different look come January when
Speaker 1: we talk about which teams are on by who is
Speaker 1: the true superpower in the NFC. A lot of things
Speaker 1: to get excited about, folks, especially if you are in
Speaker 1: the land of yes plus one hundred lakes. So you're
Speaker 1: gonna jump on me on that one. I don't even
Speaker 1: know how many the ten thousand lakes or one thousand
Speaker 1: lakes T plus nine thousand. You were never good at math.
Speaker 1: Ten thousand lakes is wild. If you think too many lakes,
Speaker 1: you can tell you have too many lakes. I like
Speaker 1: lakes too, but it almost seems like a lie. That's all.
Speaker 1: Uh So, a lot of games to get too, folks.
Speaker 1: So why don't we die right in? Uh we will
Speaker 1: start in the a f C. Well, actually, why don't
Speaker 1: we start, folks in the Queen City In the Queen Cities,
Speaker 1: that's Charlotte. Well, that's one of the Queen City. Cincinnati's
Speaker 1: the other one. Okay, I don't know off to a
Speaker 1: Rollickings start here. Let's start in Charlotte, where the Minnesota
Speaker 1: Vikings and their defense, oh my own, their defense continues
Speaker 1: to make a statement. One week after taking down Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers making him look human, Minnesota took it to Cam
Speaker 1: Newton and the Panthers offense, the result of twenty two
Speaker 1: to ten victory for the Vikings and Greg Rosenthal the
Speaker 1: Viking There's no way around it. The Vikings are for
Speaker 1: real right, oh absolutely? And Mark Sessler, if you didn't
Speaker 1: enjoy some of the outcomes on Sundays, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: enjoying this one when you watch it on game pass
Speaker 1: because this team that you've been talking up for weeks
Speaker 1: was faced with a tend nothing deficit early Carolina doing
Speaker 1: anything that they want, and they turned the game around
Speaker 1: with a Danil Hunter sack safety of Cam Newton where
Speaker 1: he throws Michael Oriside throws Cam Newton to the ground,
Speaker 1: and that was one of eight sacks they had on
Speaker 1: the day. They hit Cam Newton twelve times. They scored
Speaker 1: twenty two straight points to finish out that game. That
Speaker 1: ends a fourteen game home winning streak for the Panthers,
Speaker 1: and they did it by I wouldn't say embarrassing the Panthers,
Speaker 1: but but just saying, hey, we're tougher than you are.
Speaker 1: You guys kind of think of yourself as a tough,
Speaker 1: physical team. We can't run the ball at all, it
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Our defense is gonna dominate you so much.
Speaker 1: And Sam Bradford, even though he had a rough first
Speaker 1: half in this game, made enough throws, came out a
Speaker 1: half dime, and was very good after half time, and
Speaker 1: they wouldn't go in away twenty two to ten. It
Speaker 1: was really remarkable. The best defensive performance I've seen from
Speaker 1: any team this season so far. So the key to
Speaker 1: beating the Panthers is to have one of the most
Speaker 1: athletic defensive fronts in the NFL, because that's how the
Speaker 1: Broncos beat them too. I think they also the Vikings.
Speaker 1: You look at that Week one win over the Titans,
Speaker 1: the adjustments that they made at halftime. It happened again.
Speaker 1: Very few teams are adjusting the way they are and
Speaker 1: and you can even say early in the game maybe
Speaker 1: they adjust because Cam Newton looked great. I thought he's
Speaker 1: looked like the best quarterback in the league again the
Speaker 1: first two games and the first quarter of this game
Speaker 1: he has thrown beautiful passes to get up to nothing.
Speaker 1: They make some adjustments, the Panthers defense only gives up
Speaker 1: thirty four yards total yards in the first half. But
Speaker 1: the Vikings have a way of staying in these games
Speaker 1: even without their offense. They had a safety, they had
Speaker 1: a punt return for a touchdown, and then once Bradford
Speaker 1: and the offense got to go in a little bit
Speaker 1: in the second half, it was all she wrote. The
Speaker 1: Sunday night win over the Packers was obviously impressive, but
Speaker 1: when you factor in their opening up their building and
Speaker 1: they have the home crown going nuts and it just
Speaker 1: a lot of things seem to be going their way, say, okay,
Speaker 1: nice win, but you go down to Charlotte, a place
Speaker 1: where the Panthers have looked absolutely unbeatable um since last year,
Speaker 1: and really give it to him. You need to now
Speaker 1: anybody that doesn't believe in the Vikings. And it's still early,
Speaker 1: of course, but without Adrian Peterson, uh with Sam Bradford
Speaker 1: and Craft, Sam Bradford and Trenched, this team looks like
Speaker 1: they're for real. Yeah. I mean we talked about the
Speaker 1: combination of Cam Newton and Kelvin Benjamin just three or
Speaker 1: four days ago. Is this unstoppable force that no team
Speaker 1: can deal with zero yards off one target for Calvin Bench,
Speaker 1: one target with a couple of minutes left in the game,
Speaker 1: and that was a miscommunication that should have been picked
Speaker 1: off that Kelvin Benjamin went the wrong way. They I
Speaker 1: think the return of Xavier Rhodes help helped. Their cornerbacks
Speaker 1: are so physical. Devin Funchis and Benjamin didn't have a
Speaker 1: catch between him. After the game, Captain Munerland said he
Speaker 1: doesn't really think Fungius is a very good player and
Speaker 1: that they focused on stopping Kelvin Benjamin. So these are
Speaker 1: some physical cornerbacks that were more physical than than the
Speaker 1: Panthers receivers in this game. And there's just so many
Speaker 1: different Vikings players, Viking defenders that can get after I mean,
Speaker 1: Everson Griffin three sacks, three tackles for loss, Anthony Barr
Speaker 1: ran down Cam Newton to help stop a drive, Harrison
Speaker 1: Smith had a big safety boots and Mike Zimmer he
Speaker 1: had Cam Newton scrambled. I mean, because they were doing
Speaker 1: their double a gap blitz where you didn't know who
Speaker 1: was gonna rush the whole second half. They had no
Speaker 1: answers for for who was who they were sending in
Speaker 1: terms of their blitzers. They beat the Packers and the
Speaker 1: Panthers and back to back weeks to a two NFC superpowers,
Speaker 1: two best quarterbacks in the league. Perhaps can we call
Speaker 1: the Vikings a superpower if they don't have a running
Speaker 1: game and can't protect Sam Bradford it's a fair question. No, Well, yes,
Speaker 1: I think I think you can. Because they're not gonna
Speaker 1: They're not a perfect team. They're gonna have to win
Speaker 1: in strange ways. They're not gonna go sixteen and know
Speaker 1: they're gonna have some weeks where they can't over formula
Speaker 1: for playing invites close games. Absolutely, so they're gonna have
Speaker 1: tough weeks. But their toughness in their defense I think
Speaker 1: still keeps him as a sus Do you think Bradford
Speaker 1: is playing just as well as anyone could have expected
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater too, Well, it depends what you were expecting
Speaker 1: from I think Teddy Bridgewater statistically is probably never gonna
Speaker 1: blow you away early in his career, but he threw
Speaker 1: fourteen touchdowns last season, Um had some interceptions to Bradford
Speaker 1: showed seems to be showing great chemist. Kyle Rudolph bigs
Speaker 1: last week a different player this year. Kyle the Rudolph
Speaker 1: was really good on the intermediate throws. Even though their
Speaker 1: offense did nothing in the first they had three fairly
Speaker 1: long scoring drives in the second half. The whole hook
Speaker 1: of the Teddy Bridgewater injury, which made it even doubly painful,
Speaker 1: was a lot of people thought he was going to
Speaker 1: become next level type of version of himself. So we'll
Speaker 1: never know now. But Bradford doesn't have to be dominant
Speaker 1: with this defense. You know, he could just be hold
Speaker 1: the four guy for twelve points today. It wasn't their offense.
Speaker 1: When you're supported by that defense, I think any quarterback
Speaker 1: would be in good shape. Panthers that one and two
Speaker 1: more losses than they had all the regular season last year,
Speaker 1: and now the Vikings have the tiebreaker and the head
Speaker 1: to head, So keep an eye on the people blame
Speaker 1: some of the Panthers. This was sticking in your cross.
Speaker 1: I've heard multiple analysts say, well, the protest this week,
Speaker 1: I think that wound up being a big distraction. That
Speaker 1: was a draining part. And you know, I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to minimize what that meant for the city. Obviously, it's
Speaker 1: it's a city police shooting your city changing event. But
Speaker 1: when you try to take that event and say what
Speaker 1: it meant for a football game, well, did it not
Speaker 1: count in the first half of that game when they
Speaker 1: were absolutely dominating. It only showed up in the second
Speaker 1: half that it's just like, all right, people back off
Speaker 1: a little, say come back to us, come back to us.
Speaker 1: You're saying more original thoughts and stop partying what other
Speaker 1: people say. Moving on, gentlemen. So we talked about one
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, uh super Bowl team from last sea. Let's
Speaker 1: talk about the other one, the Denver Broncos who listen, listen,
Speaker 1: come back to us around the NFL podcast. This room
Speaker 1: was not thinking too highly of the Broncos, especially because
Speaker 1: of their quarterback unrest. But here's Trevor Simeon now who
Speaker 1: has the Broncos at three and oh, and Trevor Simeon
Speaker 1: was asked to do things that maybe you wouldn't think
Speaker 1: someone at his level would be able to do. He
Speaker 1: was able to pass the ball downfield, make plays, and
Speaker 1: in the end, the Broncos defeated the Cincinnati Bailos twenty
Speaker 1: nine to seventeen in Cincinnati. My anti lock of the week,
Speaker 1: uh anti lock breaks lock of the Week. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'll work on that, but anyway, I thought, since and
Speaker 1: they had this game in him but West, the Broncos
Speaker 1: are doing it all. It was a back and forth game,
Speaker 1: and I think by the end of this game it
Speaker 1: hit home to me that the Broncos are better this
Speaker 1: year than they were last year because Trevor Simeon is
Speaker 1: better than Peyton Manning and broncoswa interesting. I guess that's true,
Speaker 1: and he's not. Before tonight, he was not asked to
Speaker 1: make throws. He had attempted fewer passes of twenty or
Speaker 1: more yards than any quarterback in the NFL entering this game.
Speaker 1: And then he hooks up with Manny Sanders on a
Speaker 1: forty one yard TV, drops one in the bucket for
Speaker 1: Damarius Thomas on a fifty five yard TV, had a nice,
Speaker 1: pretty throw to Jeff Hireman for twenty six yards. He
Speaker 1: was letting the ball go and I think that was
Speaker 1: that was an emphasis from the Broncos. They wanted to
Speaker 1: Marrius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders more involved in their offense,
Speaker 1: so they wouldn't be one dimensional. I think watching the
Speaker 1: first two games, that's a very fair statement that they're
Speaker 1: better than they were. And the defense, you know, all
Speaker 1: these teams, you look at the Cardinals and the Panthers
Speaker 1: don't look like the way they did at the end
Speaker 1: of last season right now. But Denver and they talked
Speaker 1: about at their defense that we're just well, it's all
Speaker 1: one big thing. There is no last season in this season,
Speaker 1: and their defense has played that way every single game
Speaker 1: and they're getting better. Quarterback played to one yard receivers
Speaker 1: and Emmanuel Sanders and da Marius Thomas. Today, Simeon can
Speaker 1: do it. Listen to these numbers. Twenty three or thirty
Speaker 1: five and twelve yards, eight point nine yards per tempt,
Speaker 1: four touchdowns, no interceptions, took only two sacks, hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty two point one passer rating, and I you know,
Speaker 1: I owe John Elway had a bit of an apology
Speaker 1: because this is the guy that they had and some
Speaker 1: of us own up to our you know, wrong statements,
Speaker 1: that's all. And I'm saying, okay, well, then you know
Speaker 1: what credit to you because you are doing that, okay,
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying, here, Dan, thank you. You guys
Speaker 1: should all work out at yourselves. Trevor Simeon. Uh, looks great.
Speaker 1: He looks like the guy that they needed. And listen,
Speaker 1: they signed Mark Sanchez to be the quarterback, so it's
Speaker 1: not like this was plan A. But he was in
Speaker 1: the system. So Elway looks like he found somebody John
Speaker 1: Elway was. It was noticed after the game that he
Speaker 1: at replied at some guy who responded to him when
Speaker 1: he took Trevor Trevor Simeon a year and a half ago,
Speaker 1: saying why did you waste this pick on Trevor Simeon?
Speaker 1: And the message didn't say anything, It was just an
Speaker 1: a at this guy, but to that one. And I
Speaker 1: love thinking about that. John Elway is potentially that petty
Speaker 1: that he's going after some guy on Twitter saying how
Speaker 1: you like me? Now? Not that petty, that competitive. I mean, wait,
Speaker 1: all of us were snipping at each other all day
Speaker 1: long about things we've done and said, so we're just
Speaker 1: as we're essentially the I just said, I love it.
Speaker 1: I love that he's sticking it to I'm just saying
Speaker 1: I see us as the equal of John Elway. What
Speaker 1: what's your concerned level of the Bengals. You you said
Speaker 1: before this game, are we sure the Bengals are that
Speaker 1: good of a team? What's your thought after it? Well,
Speaker 1: they're now five and seven in their last twelve games,
Speaker 1: so that's not really a playoff contender type of streak,
Speaker 1: but they've also played quality competition. You're losing to the Broncos,
Speaker 1: you're losing to the Steelers. I don't want to I
Speaker 1: don't want to ding them too much, but they definitely
Speaker 1: need Tyler Eiffort back in their passing the game because
Speaker 1: it's all a j green right now. But they but
Speaker 1: they haven't looked good. I think there's a way you
Speaker 1: lose these games and you think better of them. But
Speaker 1: the week one, I think they were really dominated. Lucky
Speaker 1: to get a win. Last week, Yeah, I know, I
Speaker 1: know the conditions were strange, but yeah, they were significantly
Speaker 1: outplayed by Pittsburgh. And then it's it sounds like in
Speaker 1: this game, at least in the second half, they were
Speaker 1: Maybe we shouldn't be so surprised by the way that
Speaker 1: their offense isn't as good because Marvin Jones, who is
Speaker 1: playing like a star in Detroit and most of the
Speaker 1: Nos doing things in Atlanta and Tyler Eifford, who's out
Speaker 1: with the foot injury. They're in a really bad place
Speaker 1: right now. A lot of firepower. How they they have,
Speaker 1: they're maybe they're still figuring out how how they gonna
Speaker 1: make this work. I think Iffort's the key. He's a
Speaker 1: true difference maker, one of the best red zone weapons
Speaker 1: in the entire league. Moving on, gentlemen, m there's a
Speaker 1: surprising outcome. Uh, this one matchup between two Pennsylvania teams,
Speaker 1: the Eagles who have a quarterback in Carson Wentz who
Speaker 1: beat up on two bad teams in the first two
Speaker 1: weeks in the season, and now all of a sudden
Speaker 1: he got Pittsburgh. What's gonna happen? But guess what? Carson Wentz?
Speaker 1: Uh took it to the Steelers, Gentlemen, Chris Wessling a
Speaker 1: thirty four to three wins, where Wentz look great and
Speaker 1: the Eagles defense looked outrageous. Huh, Wentz looks better every week.
Speaker 1: And after a week in which the Ben Roethlisberger comparisons
Speaker 1: were bound to happen because they were playing against each other,
Speaker 1: two guys who have both been passed over by the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns, boast six ft five to forty athletic. If
Speaker 1: people haven't seen Ben Roethlisberger, if you're young and you
Speaker 1: didn't see him in his first few first few seasons
Speaker 1: in the NFL, one of the most athletic quarterbacks of
Speaker 1: the twenty one century. Wentz is just like that. And
Speaker 1: his ability to keep his eyes down field while while
Speaker 1: there's pressure in the pocket really shone through today. Seventy
Speaker 1: three yard touchdown to Darren Sprouls when he evaded a
Speaker 1: couple of would be sackers, kept his eyes downfield and floated.
Speaker 1: Greg's favorite part of Carson went his game, a catchable
Speaker 1: feathery ball to Darren nice soft. No question that wins
Speaker 1: is you know, much more than a lot of people thought,
Speaker 1: including people right around these parts in our offices. You know,
Speaker 1: people were all over the place on Winz. But it's
Speaker 1: not just that, because this team, in the way that
Speaker 1: the defense is operating, is a whole an other side
Speaker 1: of the story. The Eagles suddenly are a looked much
Speaker 1: more like a complete team than anyone would have predicted. Well,
Speaker 1: I think Jim Schwartz is already joining the Josh McDaniels
Speaker 1: for the top two candidates for head coaching vacancies in January,
Speaker 1: and they Fletcher Cox had two more sack skin today pushed.
Speaker 1: They pushed that pocket all day long. There was no
Speaker 1: Steelers ground attack. Big Ben had rushers in his face,
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox averaging a sack of game over the last
Speaker 1: seven games, Brandon Graham playing well, Connor Barwin, Malcolm Jenkins
Speaker 1: had a great game. This is a stifling defense right now.
Speaker 1: I mean they they held the Steelers a three points
Speaker 1: that I mean with with the secondary that they have
Speaker 1: and then and I think they're getting great safety play
Speaker 1: out of Jenkins and Roddy McLeod. But with those cornerbacks
Speaker 1: that you thought that was gonna be a weakness matching
Speaker 1: up against the Steelers. Holding Pittsburgh at three points this
Speaker 1: this might be the most surprising score of the season.
Speaker 1: I know they were two and oh, but just the
Speaker 1: way that the actual score line thirty four to three.
Speaker 1: That's the biggest loss I think with Tomlins, its biggest
Speaker 1: loss in the Tomlin era. Steelers moved the ball through
Speaker 1: the air early, but this score looks lopsided because there
Speaker 1: was no garbage time stats. The Steelers just couldn't get
Speaker 1: it going in the second half. When they were down
Speaker 1: by a lot and they couldn't pad any stats. They
Speaker 1: they really missed Martavis Bryant in this game. You've got
Speaker 1: Sammy coachs is good for one forty yard play a week,
Speaker 1: but doesn't do anything else. Eli Rodgers left with a
Speaker 1: toe injury and never came back. Marcus Wheaton dropped three passes.
Speaker 1: There's no Ladarius Green, So I think it's finally coming.
Speaker 1: The Chickens are coming home to roost a little bit
Speaker 1: in the passing game, perfect time. Late. Leavy on Bell,
Speaker 1: who's coming back next week, Tomlin told the CBS crew
Speaker 1: l Bell will be starting. There's no like easing him
Speaker 1: back in behind D'Angelo Williams. Well, I mean up until
Speaker 1: this game, though D'Angelo Williams looms over the last two
Speaker 1: seasons is one of the best free agent signings by
Speaker 1: any team. You couldn't have asked we've done anymore but
Speaker 1: eight for twenty one today, and that Philly line man
Speaker 1: that Eagles fans who were in such a low place
Speaker 1: a couple of months ago, wondering everything that was going
Speaker 1: on in question, wonder if there would ever be a
Speaker 1: bright spot. You're averaging over thirty points a game right now,
Speaker 1: and you are a killing team how and you have
Speaker 1: the feel that you have a quarterback for the next
Speaker 1: X amount of years. You know it's years, Greg, I
Speaker 1: think the most surprising thing with wins is that you
Speaker 1: expect the big plays, the highlight plays, but with a
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, you also expect a ton of mistakes. And
Speaker 1: he's the first quarterback in history to throw zero interceptions
Speaker 1: in his first and how about how about the guts
Speaker 1: to go to him when he hadn't played at all
Speaker 1: in the preseason. He's coming off the broken ribs. This
Speaker 1: is the biggest wind win trade I can ever think
Speaker 1: of through three weeks in NFL history. The fact that
Speaker 1: the Vikings are sitting there with with Sam Bradford looking
Speaker 1: great at three and no, they're very happy with this credit.
Speaker 1: I think he saw this and went and led to
Speaker 1: the trade. And frankly, this is one of the best
Speaker 1: coach teams in the NFL right now. And this is
Speaker 1: not Kansas City's offense from last year. There are other
Speaker 1: elements to it. They're playing with pace. It's a different situation.
Speaker 1: The nfcas a little more interesting now. I think the
Speaker 1: Giant Giants had a rough game today. But the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: he goes there a little more, might ultimately live up
Speaker 1: to the eight primetime games this season. Definitely more fun
Speaker 1: to watch division than they were last year. And if
Speaker 1: we're handing out, you know, pats on the back, how
Speaker 1: about our friend Howie Roseman went through the mud man
Speaker 1: who crawled through a river of duty and came out
Speaker 1: clean on the other side. See I like that. You
Speaker 1: adjusted it for the periscope audience. He changed you know,
Speaker 1: no swear for you kids, no no beeps. Duty was
Speaker 1: for you soolutely all right, moving on, gentlemen. Oh next, Uh,
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers got healthy on offense. Uh four
Speaker 1: touchdowns from Aaron Rodgers um, and you know, an f
Speaker 1: you performance for the Ages in the first half on
Speaker 1: Sunday at lambeau Field. Uh four touchdown passes too to
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson. UH. Huge first half lead and then it
Speaker 1: all went away in the second half. The offense got
Speaker 1: really conservative and the Lions offense woke up to make
Speaker 1: it a game. But in the end the Packers are
Speaker 1: able to run out the clock a thirty four twenty
Speaker 1: seven win, which won't quiet everybody and won't make it
Speaker 1: make people say, oh all is well in Green Bay,
Speaker 1: But we saw enough, uh, gentlemen to think that the
Speaker 1: Packers can get this thing back on track, because they
Speaker 1: really were putting on a clinic in the first half
Speaker 1: of this game. Well, I think you have to be
Speaker 1: excited that Jordy Nelson might be Jordy Nelson again. He
Speaker 1: looked good. How much of that is a Lion's defense
Speaker 1: that has no pass rushers left in the secondary looks
Speaker 1: a little beat up too, that rema to be seen.
Speaker 1: My takeaway from this game is that Mike McCarthy learned
Speaker 1: absolutely nothing from his playoff to Baccle of a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. Continues to take to get the foot
Speaker 1: off the gas pedal and invites teams to come back
Speaker 1: on him. Yeah. I think you're absolutely right. There was
Speaker 1: no reason for this to be a game. But their
Speaker 1: offense just look completely different. Uh. And there were even
Speaker 1: some boo birds out at lambeau Field because it was
Speaker 1: in the second half. Yeah, they were absolutely unstoppable in
Speaker 1: the first half, so why would you change anything? Just
Speaker 1: keep taking it to him. Instead, they tried to take
Speaker 1: the air out of the football and it almost came
Speaker 1: back to hart him. You don't do that against Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: who's proving again and again uh this season that he's
Speaker 1: a guy that can bring teams back. Well, if there's
Speaker 1: people that are upset about Mike McCarthy, don Caper's also
Speaker 1: has his critics in Green Bay. And you've allowed Matthew
Speaker 1: Stafford to throw for three and eighty five yards today,
Speaker 1: But your first takeaway is the number one Jordy Nelson
Speaker 1: was out running a few people on a couple of
Speaker 1: his routes staying and that would not have happened over
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. That changed everything. I would say
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of you know, foe five
Speaker 1: because they couldn't do anything when the game was out
Speaker 1: of hand and was at the half, and they were
Speaker 1: missing five defensive starters. So this is a good example
Speaker 1: of a good team playing complementary football on a day
Speaker 1: where you're not going to be at your best defensively.
Speaker 1: Five defensive start that's a that's a big number. I
Speaker 1: think almost all of them played in last week's game.
Speaker 1: Detroit's missing a lot of guys to Stafford's playing like
Speaker 1: a top ten quarterback easily this season, so it doesn't
Speaker 1: surprise me that he beats up on eventually beats up
Speaker 1: on a banged up secondary. Then whoever watched this the
Speaker 1: closest Marvin Jones two and five yards? How much of
Speaker 1: that came when it mattered the most in this game?
Speaker 1: The first touchdown kind of got him going. The second
Speaker 1: touchdown came when a defender fell down in the secondary,
Speaker 1: but he was he was open all game. Uh had
Speaker 1: six for two oh five and two touchdowns, seventy three
Speaker 1: yard touchdown run. Like I said, that got them going
Speaker 1: offensively where he just took off down the sideline on
Speaker 1: eight targets, So there's no there's no question who's the
Speaker 1: number one receiver. Their golden Tate had four for forty
Speaker 1: on six targets. Marvin Jones, you know where they're using
Speaker 1: him differently. It's good when you it's good when you
Speaker 1: the August reports that you see on Rhodo World, and
Speaker 1: and you know coming from all different places. Actually, uh
Speaker 1: click and ring true and Marvin Jones the Matt Stafford
Speaker 1: there's some real chemistry there. The other the other takeaway
Speaker 1: I had from this game was on the packer side, UH,
Speaker 1: in that you know, Eddie Lacy had a very nice
Speaker 1: game seventeen for one oh three. But again there's he
Speaker 1: doesn't look fast. In fact, he got into the secondary
Speaker 1: at one point and it was almost like when a
Speaker 1: linebacker has an interception, he's almost waiting to be tackled.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's not a guy that can blow past anybody.
Speaker 1: And he's looked very strong and it takes people to
Speaker 1: a lot of people to bring him down. And he
Speaker 1: brings in another dimension to that offense. But I still
Speaker 1: don't see. And we've talked about this, Uh, the same
Speaker 1: guy that was really dominant at times in his first
Speaker 1: couple of years. Dan, are you saying that P ninety
Speaker 1: X is not the ultimate exercise regime out there? I
Speaker 1: don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Maybe he did me
Speaker 1: it did for a little bit, and then he kind
Speaker 1: of fell back on some bad habits. There's no way
Speaker 1: to really know. And I feel like he wears more
Speaker 1: and more pads every week. He's been effective this season,
Speaker 1: though I would say hasn't got rights not an asset anymore.
Speaker 1: He's not like, it's not an X factor. It's not
Speaker 1: somebody you have to prepare for like he was as
Speaker 1: a rookie and in the second year, and Mike McCarthy,
Speaker 1: we saw something in Football Outsiders where they did research
Speaker 1: showing him to be one of the worst records and
Speaker 1: close games over the past two decades. He should learn
Speaker 1: something from Vince Lombardi, who in the fifties when he
Speaker 1: was offensive coordinar the Giants learned a lesson he carried
Speaker 1: with him for the rest of his career. Never try
Speaker 1: to sit on a ball for the entire quarter. From
Speaker 1: then on, Lombardi staid, we played every game like the
Speaker 1: score was nothing to nothing. Love it. Moving on. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's let's stay in the NFC and talk about an
Speaker 1: NFC matchup. Oh yes, the exciting NFC East and the
Speaker 1: Redskins and Giants went back and forth all day at
Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium game in what the Giants kind of summoned
Speaker 1: some bad memories from last season. Uh. As they attempted,
Speaker 1: they seemed to be uh finding ways to keep the
Speaker 1: Redskins involved, keep them in the mix. And then when
Speaker 1: the Redskins jumped ahead with a late field goal, Uh,
Speaker 1: it was up to Eli Manning to lead the Giants
Speaker 1: down the field and get the victory. And this is
Speaker 1: what happened. Manning back to throw bombs the pocket and
Speaker 1: his passes intercepted as he threw it over the middle
Speaker 1: that was picked off by Suert Craven's who made a
Speaker 1: diving interception, Manning second interception of the ball game. And
Speaker 1: that's gonna do it. Just uh those Bob Papa of
Speaker 1: w f A N Just a crushing way to end
Speaker 1: the game, Mark Sessler. The Giants let one get away.
Speaker 1: Had they do it. It's almost like it was almost
Speaker 1: like someone had to win this game. It was a
Speaker 1: very wild one, a bit of a slot fest. You
Speaker 1: had six combined turnovers or six combined fumbles, three for
Speaker 1: each team, and penalties nineteen penalties for two hundred yards
Speaker 1: that kept kind of messing with both teams. It reminded me,
Speaker 1: like you said, a little bit of some of the
Speaker 1: issues the Giants ran in last into last year, and
Speaker 1: they lost this game. But I would rather be the
Speaker 1: Giants overtly for the rest of the year because the
Speaker 1: combination when you look at Beckham, Victor Cruz and rookie
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd two hundred and sixty four yards off a
Speaker 1: combined fifteen catches for that trio CRUs looked good. Again.
Speaker 1: It's really just pick your poison. And and you know
Speaker 1: this in theory, this Redskins cornerback tandem was one in
Speaker 1: the better in the league, and they you know, it
Speaker 1: was one big play after the next. Now the Redskins
Speaker 1: had their big plays in the past game to the
Speaker 1: New York. New York has themselves to blame because this
Speaker 1: was this is a win they could they could have
Speaker 1: gone a three on oh off of this and they
Speaker 1: got in their own way. Wasn't the Washington secondary decimated
Speaker 1: by injury in this game? I think d'An angel uh,
Speaker 1: I mean going into the year, they were going into
Speaker 1: the season, you looked at that cornerback due and said, oh,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be excellent to watch them take on
Speaker 1: New York. And it's not played out. Norman, you know
Speaker 1: Norman had of course, after the game, he's going to
Speaker 1: talk about we won. It was a team win. Well,
Speaker 1: you did win, but he did not win his matchup
Speaker 1: with Beckham. Beckham fried him, but show Uh Brelan left
Speaker 1: the game with an ankle injury and D'Angelo Hall believed
Speaker 1: to suffer an a c l injuring this game and
Speaker 1: Connor's right up. He said, if we were scoring the
Speaker 1: game within the game, this was no contest as far
Speaker 1: as Beckham versus Norman reminded me of last year when
Speaker 1: Gregg Cosell watched the All twenty two tape and said, physically,
Speaker 1: it wasn't even close. Josh Norman can't hang with Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham and cover Beckham is such a different, more skilled
Speaker 1: player than almost any of these quarterbacks could claimed to be.
Speaker 1: But they talked to both before the game separately to
Speaker 1: calm them down the officials, and that annoyed Beckham. And
Speaker 1: at first I was just annoyed at Beckham for being annoyed.
Speaker 1: But the more I the more I see how this
Speaker 1: game played out, there was a pier. There was a
Speaker 1: moment where where Norman picked Odell Beckham up and kind
Speaker 1: of carried him like a ballerina, as as Connor wrote
Speaker 1: in his piece, and he's right and the rest standing
Speaker 1: right there and did nothing about it. Isn't that exactly
Speaker 1: what they would have been talking about the kind of
Speaker 1: shenanigans they're trying to cut down on. Norman picked him up,
Speaker 1: carried him about four yards and then dropped him at
Speaker 1: the officials feet. No flag came out. I I have
Speaker 1: to say, though, you know, Beckham, I didn't watch this game, closely,
Speaker 1: But every time I looked up at the screen and
Speaker 1: checked in on this game, I saw Beckham, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: having thrown some type of fit. He's you know, you
Speaker 1: like to have guys that are emotional, but sometimes this guy,
Speaker 1: it seems like a little too much. Even at one point,
Speaker 1: Eli Manning had to come over and and console him
Speaker 1: or tell him to calm down. At one point he
Speaker 1: took a swing at the kicking net and then got
Speaker 1: clocked in the face by the kicking net. Kicking net. One,
Speaker 1: dude's gotta calm down just a little. And after not
Speaker 1: a little too much, it's a lot too much. And
Speaker 1: after the game, you know, there the reports of him
Speaker 1: in the locker room being more upset than than any
Speaker 1: player they've ever seen, kind of ranting and raving. And
Speaker 1: then that's not what you want out of your out
Speaker 1: of your best players. But you do have to flip
Speaker 1: it around. You have to give credit to Suell Craven's
Speaker 1: who looked incredible. Lott good last week. Yeah, in some
Speaker 1: limited action as a dime linebacker. And this the season's
Speaker 1: over if they lose this game. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: have a lot of hopes for the Redskins. Anyways, but
Speaker 1: the season's over. You're at o and three the Giants
Speaker 1: and the Eagles would be at three and oh. So
Speaker 1: that's the monster play to keep them hopes alive. I
Speaker 1: have a term for this, the wounded animal game. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: in two games. Game needed that they're dangerous team even
Speaker 1: if they're not great, and they found a way. Can
Speaker 1: I say one more quick thing. Your wounded animal analogy
Speaker 1: is said on because Gruden coached this game like a
Speaker 1: wounded animal trying to back himself out of the corner
Speaker 1: they went. They went a fake punt on fourth and
Speaker 1: twelve near midfield. Tress Way hit a thirty one yard
Speaker 1: pass that It was a big factor in this game,
Speaker 1: and Gruden over and over did some unusual things to
Speaker 1: just keep the Redskins alive. Typical NFC skiping batch the
Speaker 1: end of the first half sequence to right, Oh that
Speaker 1: was awful. Well, we've seen that from It was a
Speaker 1: Blake Bortles esque scenario where you know Kirk Cousins is in,
Speaker 1: you know it's got he's got a chance to very
Speaker 1: close tightened on New York's territory to throw a touchdown,
Speaker 1: and he just takes a sack time runs out. What's
Speaker 1: it's not good? Fitz Apocalypse in Kansas City, Ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: My boy Ryan Fitzpatrick through six interceptions, including I think
Speaker 1: four in the fourth quarter alone, one of eight turnovers
Speaker 1: by the Jets. Uh. The end result a humiliating yes
Speaker 1: I'll say it again, three loss to the Chiefs at
Speaker 1: Arrowheads Stadium, a game in which you know, I was
Speaker 1: talking it up on Thursday Night's podcast that I was
Speaker 1: excited about that I thought it was would be a
Speaker 1: close game between two similar teams, similarly matched teams. And
Speaker 1: I still think the Chiefs are not necessarily a much
Speaker 1: better team in the Jets. But this was just a
Speaker 1: game where everything went wrong. I would call up Tony Sperrano, Uh,
Speaker 1: ship them uh to Jersey and and buried the balls
Speaker 1: because if you're buried the balls, you're buried to pass quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's well. I mean, Fitzpatrick was an absolute nightmare in
Speaker 1: this game. And you gotta give the Kansas City defense
Speaker 1: a lot of credit because, uh, they really did. Uh
Speaker 1: they didn't put a lot of a ton of pressure
Speaker 1: on him in the backfield, but everyone was covered, and
Speaker 1: we're talking about it. We were just raving about the
Speaker 1: Jets wide receiver set up, as was the rest of
Speaker 1: the UH football covering country, about how Brandon Marshall, Eric
Speaker 1: Decker and Quincy and Nona uh make them a very
Speaker 1: tough team to deal with. No one was open and
Speaker 1: then Fitzpatrick does what Fitzpatrick does, which is he tries
Speaker 1: to force balls. And when you try to force balls
Speaker 1: and you don't have a good arm, Chris Westling, bad
Speaker 1: things happen. What was your impression. I don't know how
Speaker 1: closely you watch this game of Marcus Peters, who I
Speaker 1: think is becoming like one of the best defensive players
Speaker 1: in the league. Peters was everywhere, and he had two
Speaker 1: interceptions in this game and seemed to be him and
Speaker 1: Eric Berry every time. Especially. You know, the Jets had
Speaker 1: multiple opportunities to get back in this game. It was
Speaker 1: seventeen three for a long period, and the Jets had
Speaker 1: two drives that took them inside the ten yard line
Speaker 1: that ended interceptions, and Uh, I was yeah. I came
Speaker 1: away extremely obviously disappointed, but also impress by the defense
Speaker 1: of the Chiefs that which was very bend but don't break.
Speaker 1: They weren't perfect, but uh, what they did was they
Speaker 1: put pressure on Fitzpatrick, and you know, the thing about
Speaker 1: it is and the revenge of Bob Sutton, Bob Sutton
Speaker 1: revenge game narrative. But it's just, I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: classic Jets, and I've almost I don't know if I
Speaker 1: I'm taking I'm distancing myself from the loss and trying
Speaker 1: not to be so upset because I see that the
Speaker 1: Patriots Avolis obviously look like they're gonna have at least
Speaker 1: another year of absolute dominance. So why would I Why
Speaker 1: should I get so upset anyway, But maybe we'll see
Speaker 1: you know, slight regression dot com uh backslash members and
Speaker 1: keep ruling um bad shoulder might not ever heal. Not
Speaker 1: that I wanted that to happen, but you never know
Speaker 1: how he'll recover. But the reason why the Jets are
Speaker 1: such a maddening team to root for is because Ryan
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick looked like a young Joe Namath in Week two,
Speaker 1: shredding the Bills and throwing just a litany of beautiful
Speaker 1: downfield balls. And then it got to the point in
Speaker 1: this game where every ball he was throwing was up
Speaker 1: for grabs. I thought it was, uh, the most reckless
Speaker 1: QB performance you'll see all season. I mean we mentioned
Speaker 1: this every week with the Jets. But what's doubly concerning
Speaker 1: is you had to get out of this game with
Speaker 1: one of a team that's more in your tier potentially,
Speaker 1: because you've got the Seahawks, the Steelers, the Cardinals, and
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw the Ravens up there after that too.
Speaker 1: That is that is a tough month to deal with.
Speaker 1: And it's the because it's I'll just ask you because
Speaker 1: you you were for good reason. You you had hope
Speaker 1: around Fitzpatrick out after last season. But Fitzpatrick is always
Speaker 1: weak but fun exactly, but he's always We've always talked
Speaker 1: about as a one year type of proposition at quarterback.
Speaker 1: And now you're getting the second year. And what is
Speaker 1: your P level? My the PEA scale, your PA scales,
Speaker 1: that's about six point five, but it couldn't have been
Speaker 1: lower well that morning, right. What my point is is
Speaker 1: that I'm willing it's the Fitzpatrick coast there. Forget Gino coast.
Speaker 1: Every one talks about this guy is a game manager.
Speaker 1: No one is more up and down than Ryan. He
Speaker 1: is not a game manager. He is I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: for broke every game and last week he's the best
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. In this week, he's the worst.
Speaker 1: I'm willing to kind of throw this game out as
Speaker 1: a disaster, and I wouldn't be surprised if they play
Speaker 1: better next week. It just wouldn't shock me. But it
Speaker 1: doesn't make it any any any more easy to stomach.
Speaker 1: And I just want to, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: try to focus on the Chiefs a little bit. It's
Speaker 1: so easy to get hung up on the Jets for
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. But eight turnovers, but Travis Kelsey
Speaker 1: looked very much like a baby Gronk. He had one
Speaker 1: play in this game where he caught a pass underneath,
Speaker 1: he ran away from Calvin Pryor, who was a good safety,
Speaker 1: and then ran over another safety, Marcus Gilchris Uh. Impressive stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to his dating reality show. Does Kelsey
Speaker 1: my the one? I get the baby Gronk thing and
Speaker 1: you see it from here to there? But Gronk when
Speaker 1: he's on the field does a game after game after game, Kelsey,
Speaker 1: I feel like you get that, and then he disappears
Speaker 1: for a week or two, and then he does it
Speaker 1: again in a big way. There are some major differences
Speaker 1: between the two, they look a lot of like after
Speaker 1: the catch. Gronk so much better in the red zone
Speaker 1: because he's so much more physical and also a better blocker.
Speaker 1: But as we're also it's fair to call him a
Speaker 1: baby version of Grins. What I'm saying like, it's two
Speaker 1: year old, just a two years if a two year
Speaker 1: old groundfield? There you go, Okay, that's all I'm saying. No,
Speaker 1: I'm not, you know, I was just taking on the
Speaker 1: nicknamework catching Kelsey. You're gonna watch it good. Let's give
Speaker 1: them a plug. I'm sure they'll return the favorite. You
Speaker 1: know what I think? I think we have to check
Speaker 1: in with my old man, who again a fever Jets fan.
Speaker 1: He watched the Super Bowl three conquest by Joe Namath
Speaker 1: and it's been all downhill since. He's a mention if
Speaker 1: he did this assignment. Let's check in with Keith. His
Speaker 1: name is Keith. He'll doubt about it. He's a league
Speaker 1: Jets fan. Well does he go to say game to say?
Speaker 1: What does he go pull? Happen? The Fitzpatrick performance today
Speaker 1: was probably one of the worst I've ever seen the
Speaker 1: QB have uh in in Jet history. The question that
Speaker 1: I asked that I think everyone will be asking, is
Speaker 1: if I was the backup quarterback like Gino Smith, for example,
Speaker 1: when are you going to be able to get into
Speaker 1: a game? If you didn't get into this one. There
Speaker 1: was certainly opportunity that the Jets had in the second
Speaker 1: half that I think Bowls just should have pulled Fitzpatrick
Speaker 1: because obviously he did not have it and he kept
Speaker 1: forcing it in particular and the red zone where he
Speaker 1: had two picks that were just horrible. So that's the question.
Speaker 1: I think that's to be answered. Let's see what happens
Speaker 1: next week. I love it Keith talking about talking Gino
Speaker 1: in the game again. I think it Gino so bad
Speaker 1: he couldn't even get into this game well, or that
Speaker 1: this regime hates Gino so much. If he can't get
Speaker 1: into this game, he's never going to get you. Also,
Speaker 1: is the a tougher city to coaching where if you
Speaker 1: even make a coaching or a quarterback switch late on
Speaker 1: a road game in week three, you're gonna have to
Speaker 1: deal with it all week long? Is it really worth it?
Speaker 1: But I think that's how highly regarded Fitzpatrick is by
Speaker 1: their coaching space, if not the front all see, I
Speaker 1: don't think it's that crazy to think Gino Smith would start.
Speaker 1: We know what you think about Gino Smith. Excellent intro music.
Speaker 1: I like the heads a keeper. It had some funk
Speaker 1: to it. Yeah, there was a little funk to it.
Speaker 1: That was Dick Banks, of course, the immortal Dick Banks.
Speaker 1: All right, that's a keeper hanging there. Dad. We'll we'll
Speaker 1: unpack this game in a full conversation tomorrow. Moving on, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Cults. Wounded animal game, guys, Oh, wounded animal game.
Speaker 1: They needed it, they need Let's work on that for
Speaker 1: next week. Irish sound Yeah, like a fox trapped in
Speaker 1: a trap. A Tasmanian devil goes oh and two with
Speaker 1: the one on one chargers in their building, Chargers with
Speaker 1: a late lead. It was all coming down to this,
Speaker 1: and uh, what does Andrew Luck do when he needs
Speaker 1: to save the season. He looks the t Y Hilton
Speaker 1: shots gun snapped your left hash for man rush and throws.
Speaker 1: He finds Hilton, who spits out of a head acup
Speaker 1: fifty five forty funny five forty h funny top five
Speaker 1: touched up Taylor hilt Don. On second and one, he
Speaker 1: erupts for seventy two and the Colts gonna go ahead,
Speaker 1: touched down two one sevent The Colts then forced to
Speaker 1: turn over on the next possession, and there you go.
Speaker 1: A twenty six twenty to win Greg Rosenthal game they
Speaker 1: desperately needed and they got it. They did it. Really
Speaker 1: keeps their hopes alive heading to London this week. But
Speaker 1: watching this game, it didn't make me think any differently
Speaker 1: about the Colts. Didn't make me think they were a
Speaker 1: good team. If this was the only game you watch
Speaker 1: so the Chargers this year, you'd think these are two
Speaker 1: bad teams making a lot of mistakes. I mean they
Speaker 1: got the Chargers got into that position to win despite
Speaker 1: all sorts of problems. I mean, Philip Rivers had a
Speaker 1: really poor game. I would say overall, Jason Varrette, who
Speaker 1: I thought was making the leap, was picked on and
Speaker 1: he was the guy in coverage on that play, and
Speaker 1: he was really the difference in the game was luck
Speaker 1: going to Verrette in single coverage to Hilton and Dorset
Speaker 1: again and again, those guys winning off the line of
Speaker 1: scrimmage against Verrette, who was out of the lineup, out
Speaker 1: of the game just for a little bit. So maybe
Speaker 1: maybe he was hurt in the game. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it was, but either way, Andrew Luck overall played well,
Speaker 1: but he made mistakes too. It's like he he had
Speaker 1: a terrible interception, he had an unforgivable fumble that was
Speaker 1: returned for a touchdown. So there was a lot of
Speaker 1: mistakes by both of the two quarterbacks. I noticed that
Speaker 1: when every time Andrew Luck plays, Twitter has to engage
Speaker 1: in some dramatic, sweeping debate over whether he is just
Speaker 1: not a good quarterback, and then he comes back and
Speaker 1: leads a game winning drive usually when that debate is happening. Well, Greg,
Speaker 1: does this change the way that we've killed the Colts?
Speaker 1: I'll see, And for being an incomplete team on both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. I think there's some things they
Speaker 1: do that are interesting that they're gonna win games like this,
Speaker 1: But does it really change your opinion of Indianapolis on
Speaker 1: any level? Now? They ran the ball well in the
Speaker 1: first half, which was good to see, but they didn't
Speaker 1: in the second half at all. Uh. Luck had an
Speaker 1: okay game, but he made some careless, careless turnovers their defense.
Speaker 1: And I think you made fun of me for saying
Speaker 1: this last week. I think their defense is playing hard.
Speaker 1: I think they're under man but they're flying around. There
Speaker 1: are places to be made in this game, though for
Speaker 1: the Chargers that they just didn't make. I mean Philip
Speaker 1: Rivers missed a lot of open throws, including a third
Speaker 1: down to Travis Benjamin when they could have killed the clock.
Speaker 1: He just missed the throw, the game would be over.
Speaker 1: Wasn't making fun of you? I thought it was funny
Speaker 1: because that was the highest compliment you could give, that
Speaker 1: they're playing hard and earth to everyone who is a
Speaker 1: college football fan. NFL players do try hard. I mean Jack.
Speaker 1: At one point there was a second and forty because
Speaker 1: Jack Doyle had been called for holding twice. Jack. The
Speaker 1: offensive line of the Colts was a nightmare. Uh. They
Speaker 1: could not protect the Chargers rushing just four, which is
Speaker 1: why on the key play of the game, Chargers fans
Speaker 1: they're look a lot of a lot of fan bases
Speaker 1: have reasons to be miserable today and in general like
Speaker 1: they've had a tough little too happy. I think the
Speaker 1: Chargers fans are in that group that because this particular
Speaker 1: group of Chargers not to mention, the team might leave.
Speaker 1: They have led in their last fifteen games. They've led
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter ten times, They've lost seven of
Speaker 1: those ten games, and they're three and twelve in those
Speaker 1: fifteen games. Overall, they managed to find new ways to
Speaker 1: lose games each and every week. And this time it
Speaker 1: was blitzing on fourth and seven with the game on
Speaker 1: the line, but playing off coverage and Andrew Luck just
Speaker 1: picks out easy catch. I mean, that's a coaching issue
Speaker 1: that Mike McCoy, who you know, some feel like was
Speaker 1: given a lot like Mike McCarthy when it comes to
Speaker 1: late game play. Yeah, I mean that's Jack Doyle is
Speaker 1: cult is his number? Don't know? Maybe? I mean we
Speaker 1: can't get out of here with talking about Melvin Gordon.
Speaker 1: What happened two point two yards per carry? You watched
Speaker 1: to Greg? What? Or I just I thought he ran
Speaker 1: pretty well in this game. He made he could have
Speaker 1: had a long of seven two point two yards per carry.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you he ran pretty hard in this game.
Speaker 1: I don't I didn't have a huge problem with spice
Speaker 1: tracks on the floor. He would have had a couple more.
Speaker 1: He had forty three yards receiving, would have had a
Speaker 1: touchdown receiving if if Rivers didn't miss him a couple
Speaker 1: of times. Let's move on and talk about uh, the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. Another wounded double wounded animal game. It's like
Speaker 1: an animal sanctuary where you take wounded animals you find
Speaker 1: in the wild, and then you put them into this
Speaker 1: sanctuary and then you have them fight. Don't That is
Speaker 1: the exact opposite of how animal rescue operated. This is
Speaker 1: like a rogue one new thing. It's it's it's humane vision.
Speaker 1: Gott we got rid of bear baiting. Bad news, guys,
Speaker 1: Bad things happen in the world. This sanctuary finds wounded
Speaker 1: animals and they have them fight each other. Well, there
Speaker 1: was a quarterback who suffered after suggesting that as a strategy.
Speaker 1: They just suggested, Mark, it's a plot line for an
Speaker 1: Archer episode. Al Right, freezing, here we go. Are you ready? Dolphins?
Speaker 1: Brown's Browns fell behind to Miami. Looked like Miami's gonna coast.
Speaker 1: All the people, thousands and thousands of people in their
Speaker 1: knockout leagues were feeling good about their Miami pick. But
Speaker 1: guess what, the Browns were plucky. The Browns kept coming
Speaker 1: back and after Ryan's Tannehill fumble late in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: they had a chance to steal the game at hard
Speaker 1: Rock UH Cafe Stadium whatever it is. Cody Parker signed
Speaker 1: a day ago, lined up forty seven yard or to
Speaker 1: win it. Stamp is back, paulishtown parking into it and
Speaker 1: over and that kicks up. Eddie missed tag wide left.
Speaker 1: He hooked it again. We're gonna go over time and
Speaker 1: as we view it, he really missed it. I mean
Speaker 1: he wasn't closed. He really hooked it left. He's hooked
Speaker 1: him left all day. That's w K R K, Jim Donovan,
Speaker 1: Doug Deacon and uh listen, that was three misses by
Speaker 1: um Cody Parkey. And then the Miami Dolphins took care
Speaker 1: of business in the overtime given new life j Ji
Speaker 1: around the left corner for the touchdown thir final mark.
Speaker 1: Another dark day, uh for you as a Browns fan.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. I mean, you can look at
Speaker 1: this game a number of ways. I yes, it had
Speaker 1: the moment where I pounded my fist on on my
Speaker 1: work table and you guys were you know, you knew
Speaker 1: what was happening. Everyone didn't talk to me for about
Speaker 1: a half an hour. But I'm gonna I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you from another angle I think Dolphins fans this was
Speaker 1: this was Both of these teams have a lot to
Speaker 1: work on, and I want to get to Miami in
Speaker 1: a second. But with Cleveland, I'll say one thing before
Speaker 1: we get into the Dolphins. I've watched a lot of
Speaker 1: bad Browns football over the years. We all have. They
Speaker 1: are playing hard. They played hard against the Ravens. They're undermanned.
Speaker 1: So you want to pick them apart and say they're
Speaker 1: not as talented, they don't have this or that. Well
Speaker 1: that's obvious. Anyone watching the games can see that. But
Speaker 1: they fought today. Terrell Prior a hundred sixty five yards
Speaker 1: off twelve touches. They admits they mixed in Prior and
Speaker 1: Cody Kessler at quarterback. It is an undermanned group. They
Speaker 1: did the best they could. My I would say one
Speaker 1: thing about the Dolphins before we split off. Here. This team,
Speaker 1: if you watch what happened with the Patriots, and it's
Speaker 1: New England and it's the Cleveland So you couldn't have
Speaker 1: two different opponents, but super streaky, it doesn't matter what.
Speaker 1: The defense is absolutely asleep at the wheel during the
Speaker 1: first half against New England and then start to come
Speaker 1: to life. Same thing Tannehill two interceptions that really gave
Speaker 1: Cleveland a feeling that they were in this game going
Speaker 1: in a halftime. He got very hot in the third quarter,
Speaker 1: and then their final four drives let Cleveland back in
Speaker 1: the game with I think it was four punts, a fum,
Speaker 1: a strip, sack, fumble, and basically go into overtime and
Speaker 1: lead a short touchdown drive where j Ji, who has
Speaker 1: been invisible, runs in for the eleven yard game winning score.
Speaker 1: It's a if if you're Miami you have not seen
Speaker 1: the change you want to see on offense in consistency.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. If you're a Dolphins fan or you're the Dolphin,
Speaker 1: you know I'm not gonna give you a lollipop here.
Speaker 1: It's neither team could come out with a win with
Speaker 1: a lollipop. But it's just like this would have been
Speaker 1: an embarrassing loss. Had to have a game at home,
Speaker 1: the game was lost. If if if the perhaps just
Speaker 1: signed a kicker on Saturday exactly literally hadn't practiced with
Speaker 1: the team and had to do it in warm and
Speaker 1: that's the toughest signment not going to kill that Guy's
Speaker 1: a little bit like that. They should have avoided that
Speaker 1: in some way. But that's besides this. These are two
Speaker 1: bad teams. But it sounds like it might have been
Speaker 1: like a wildly fun game to watch. And it's a
Speaker 1: shame for Terrell prior that they didn't win, because I
Speaker 1: think his performance will be remembered differently than it should
Speaker 1: have been. That's something you would see, like in the
Speaker 1: nineties seventies, a guy playing quarterback, running back, wide receiver.
Speaker 1: And how much how many yards of the account for
Speaker 1: total d sixty? Well, actually, if you if you put
Speaker 1: in passing, it was it was about two hundred yards.
Speaker 1: And they you you know they I give I give
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson credit for all the critique he takes for
Speaker 1: various aspects of his you know, coaching. He is creative
Speaker 1: and he can it is to get fun even to
Speaker 1: watch on game pass, just for the quarterback thing going
Speaker 1: back and forth. But prior, if you take away that
Speaker 1: ridiculous taunting, I call it ridiculous tuns last week, this
Speaker 1: team could very easily with one made field, will be
Speaker 1: two and one. Right now, they are not a two
Speaker 1: and one team. They're much closer to a one and
Speaker 1: two or oh and three team. But I'm telling you
Speaker 1: they're the effort is there, and that's that what they were.
Speaker 1: They were so boring on game pass for years because
Speaker 1: they seemed to float from the second quarter on. Tell
Speaker 1: us more about Kessler was it sounds like he was
Speaker 1: not a liability really well. I think he. I think
Speaker 1: he started the game in a very raw place and
Speaker 1: he seemed to gain a little bit of comfort. But
Speaker 1: he's limited. There's a lot of limitations to his game.
Speaker 1: They lost the deep ball element entirely. I mean the
Speaker 1: fact that he ended up twenty one thirty three for
Speaker 1: two forty four and mentioning prior he did something with
Speaker 1: the hundred twenty receiving yards, at least thirty passing years,
Speaker 1: at least twenty rushing yards. No one's done that since
Speaker 1: Frank Gifford in the Browns get killed and and for
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways they deserve it, but they
Speaker 1: did a nice job with for all. Pro are recognizing
Speaker 1: that he could be a player, and looks like they've
Speaker 1: turned him into something that's yeah, turn him into a
Speaker 1: potential star. Moving on, led by Russell Wilson and see Woke,
Speaker 1: the Seahawks got healthy a thirty eight teen win over
Speaker 1: the forty niners at the clink. Well not quite healthy.
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson got banged up again. What's the latest, Mark, Well,
Speaker 1: there's probably developments on that even as we're doing this show,
Speaker 1: because the reports were that he was going to get
Speaker 1: an m R I tonight, not to not the typical
Speaker 1: Monday morning on his knee. It did not look good.
Speaker 1: We watched it. It looks like he got you know,
Speaker 1: he got massively rolled up on the ankle bent, the
Speaker 1: knee bent. Please tell me where spraying? So? I mean
Speaker 1: he listen, he never even left the field. It's it's
Speaker 1: important to note that it's the opposite leg. It was
Speaker 1: the right ankle sprain that he suffered early in the years.
Speaker 1: So both legs are banged up for a mobile quarterback,
Speaker 1: and it probably will affect you know, he is he
Speaker 1: is not healthy. But I will say that the bright
Speaker 1: spot coming out of this game. Everyone who wanted to
Speaker 1: doubt what of the Seattle's offense would continue to operate
Speaker 1: the way they did last year throughout the season. Forget
Speaker 1: it not last year, last weekends the Rams. They looked
Speaker 1: fine in this game. Yes it's the Niners, but a
Speaker 1: hundred yards for both Baldwin and Graham and the first
Speaker 1: half alone receiving and the woke bloke, oh boy, Kristen
Speaker 1: Michael look great. And you know what we've We've all
Speaker 1: mentioned this a little bit. Chris has been on the
Speaker 1: Michael thing for a long long time, but we wanted
Speaker 1: to see what he could do if you just got
Speaker 1: everyone out of the mix. They did that today and
Speaker 1: he was as advertised, that forty one yard touchdown. We've
Speaker 1: used the phrase shot out of a can, and that's
Speaker 1: exactly what he looked like. There was a play you
Speaker 1: and I saw, I was watching this game in the background,
Speaker 1: a one yard loss where he's join a spin and
Speaker 1: it's one of the most impressive one yard lost runs
Speaker 1: you're ever gonna see. He's just he's much more explosive
Speaker 1: than Thomas Rawls right now, Like on a scale of
Speaker 1: one to ten, Michaels at a nine point five and
Speaker 1: Rawles is at a three. Inexplosive And this game lies
Speaker 1: box score wise, because I think all of Seattle's weapons
Speaker 1: would have done much more if they hadn't they didn't
Speaker 1: take their foot off the break. But there's just you're
Speaker 1: not pushing, You're not you're not trying to go all
Speaker 1: out against the Niners seven and you've got Trevan Trevin
Speaker 1: Boykin in I mean the forty Niners defense, after starting
Speaker 1: with a shutout, managed to give up forty six points
Speaker 1: last week despite turning you know, turning the ball over
Speaker 1: three times. This time it was thirty seven h points
Speaker 1: to the Seahawks. This is the least hopeful team I
Speaker 1: think in the league, even like you said, sometimes in
Speaker 1: oh and three teams a little closer to one and
Speaker 1: two to be they're closer to the worst team in
Speaker 1: the league because the defense. The defense does not look
Speaker 1: good in Blaine Gabber can't shoot straight. But wouldn't you
Speaker 1: also say that part of that hopeless be expected is
Speaker 1: comes from a front office that's always in turmoil and
Speaker 1: it's always backbiting well and looked at the two quarterbacks
Speaker 1: they had and said that'll do Kaepernick starting by I
Speaker 1: was surprised, Kaepernick. Why not pull put Kaepernick into this
Speaker 1: game when you're getting destroyed? Credit More credit should go
Speaker 1: to Doug Baldwin's way, who's really coming one of the
Speaker 1: top ten overall wide receivers in the NFL. I'm still
Speaker 1: worried about the Seahawks. They don't have a good offensive line,
Speaker 1: and you get the feeling it's just gonna be like
Speaker 1: one of those seasons where next spring you'll see quotes
Speaker 1: from Russell Wilson saying never was healthy last year and
Speaker 1: he's still gonna Now You've got a good, a good
Speaker 1: test next week at the Jets, who have a great
Speaker 1: defensive line. We gotta see what Russell Wilson will be
Speaker 1: able to do when he's just not able to move
Speaker 1: like he likes to move and he's not going to
Speaker 1: get faster. After this latestip, I will say Boykin looked
Speaker 1: fine running the offense. Not that that's gonna sustain itself,
Speaker 1: but it's like it seems this year it doesn't matter
Speaker 1: where you draft to the guy or where he came from.
Speaker 1: He just goes in as a rookie and he does it.
Speaker 1: I mean, quarterbacks are being trained. It's not a Quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are being trained to play in the pros right away,
Speaker 1: not year five and six. Carrol said that that Russell
Speaker 1: Wilson would start next week, but that's one of those
Speaker 1: right after the game, before the m R I you
Speaker 1: never know you might end up seeing Trevin Boyken, Jared
Speaker 1: goffin the game. Look at all these guys, he's not ready.
Speaker 1: He's different. He's different. Why is he different? Because he's
Speaker 1: coming from a college offense where every play was sent
Speaker 1: him from the sideline. He's never running at the same
Speaker 1: thing you saw him playing the preseason. He wasn't it.
Speaker 1: It has nothing to do with his physical talent. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying his pree snap and post snap. He's just
Speaker 1: not ready to play, which shouldn't be so sure because
Speaker 1: everyone going out there is doing. Look at his coaching
Speaker 1: versus the coaching on other teams. That's a fair point.
Speaker 1: That's a fair point. And I do think there's what
Speaker 1: you're seeing around the league, and you see it in
Speaker 1: New England especially. I think smart coaches are going and
Speaker 1: getting mid round picks, using them on talented quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: training them how to play the position, versus signing a
Speaker 1: washed up veteran and going the alleged safe route. Go
Speaker 1: play the go play the talented young player. Why not
Speaker 1: moving on? Here's a here's a head scratcher. Rex Ryan
Speaker 1: circles the Wagons facing possible extinction. The Animal Game after
Speaker 1: ugly Owen two starred that included the missile of his oc.
Speaker 1: Ryan and the Bills whooped up on the Cardinals, a
Speaker 1: win that qualifies as the biggest starn of Week three
Speaker 1: or is it Greg? No, it was. I think we're
Speaker 1: gonna use the word stunner. It was a stunning upset.
Speaker 1: I was stunned. The Arizona Cardinals went three and out
Speaker 1: for their first five drives of the game. They threw
Speaker 1: an interception for their last four drives of the game.
Speaker 1: That is an unbelievably bad performance from an offense that
Speaker 1: hasn't looked right this year. I think even if you
Speaker 1: look closely at if you look closely at that Bucks game,
Speaker 1: you really and looked at the offense by the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: Even in that game, they didn't quite look as in
Speaker 1: sync in terms of consistently moving the ball on offense.
Speaker 1: They definitely had spurts, kind of like the Dolphins that
Speaker 1: I you gotta give it to Rex, you gotta give
Speaker 1: it to their defense to step up and dominate this game.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about Greg Roman being fired.
Speaker 1: And we knew what we were going to do on offense.
Speaker 1: And yes, they blew open some holes for Lashawn McCoy.
Speaker 1: They ran the ball pretty well. They threw for eighty
Speaker 1: nine yards on twenty five dropbacks. They couldn't throw the
Speaker 1: ball at all. It was all the Bills defense. And
Speaker 1: they deserve all the credit in the world for that
Speaker 1: because they just took this game. As a certified rexpert.
Speaker 1: I knew they were gonna win one of these two games.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna get I knew they
Speaker 1: were gonna get both. But the Cardinals Patriots, he was
Speaker 1: gonna do something to save his his butt from going
Speaker 1: oh and four into Week five. But I definitely did
Speaker 1: not see them laying the laying the bomb on the Cardinal. Here.
Speaker 1: Here's why I said that about the Card's offense. He
Speaker 1: made a face West because Malcolm Michael Floyd's not playing well,
Speaker 1: John Brown's not playing well. Partly about the players. The
Speaker 1: offensive line even is a little up, up and down.
Speaker 1: They started that game very very slow, five or six
Speaker 1: drives without doing anything, so they everything's not clicking even
Speaker 1: in a game like that, and and it showed up today. Well,
Speaker 1: I made the face because everyone wants to put Carson
Speaker 1: palmer struggles on whatever he did in the playoffs last year,
Speaker 1: and I thought he played really well against good Bucks,
Speaker 1: including a draw have late in the second quarter. That
Speaker 1: was as well as you'll see any quarterback play in
Speaker 1: a single drive. Yeah he was. He wasn't like he
Speaker 1: He hasn't been the sole problem by any means with
Speaker 1: them starting wanting to look, if they hit a field goal,
Speaker 1: they'd be two and one. But this was a deeply
Speaker 1: disappointing performance. It was a eighties six yards to seven
Speaker 1: early in the game. I mean, Carson Palmer historically has
Speaker 1: always thrown interceptions, and last year was quite a remarkable
Speaker 1: kind of peak season for him. I don't know, I
Speaker 1: don't think I'd find it surprising that the whole offense
Speaker 1: would come down a notch or two and I and
Speaker 1: after week three, I'm not ready to say that it
Speaker 1: won't get back to higher levels, but it's it's a
Speaker 1: lot to ask them to go do that two seasons
Speaker 1: in a row. Here's the concern. If you're Cardinals fan,
Speaker 1: you're a little nervous right now that last season almost
Speaker 1: everything worked, almost everything was perfect, and you couldn't get
Speaker 1: over the hump. And now you're trying to match that
Speaker 1: season where everything seemed to go right and so far
Speaker 1: some of these things that worked in your favorite and
Speaker 1: not and Carson Palmer, you know he never had a
Speaker 1: game like this during the regular season, like maybe outside
Speaker 1: of the same late in the year, but now and
Speaker 1: and the interceptions were in catchup mode. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: the game really ended uh much earlier than that. I
Speaker 1: think it was thirty two seven late in the third
Speaker 1: quarter and that was pretty much pretty much all she wrote.
Speaker 1: After a big defensive play by the Bills. But look,
Speaker 1: they've got their plan. This was Rex's dream game. Two rushes,
Speaker 1: two under an eight yards. Lashawn McCoy ran hard. They
Speaker 1: had some holes from Tyrod Taylor made big plays with
Speaker 1: his legs, especially a forty nine yard or early in
Speaker 1: the game. I mean they won a game without Sammy Watkins.
Speaker 1: Cordy Glenn and who am I forgetting was also out
Speaker 1: for this game, Ronald Darby. Those are three of the band,
Speaker 1: like half the rookie class, right, three of their very
Speaker 1: best players. And those these are guys that were even
Speaker 1: there for the Jets game, all right, are not in
Speaker 1: the game and they dominate the card. Then let me
Speaker 1: ask you a question, because I think the one thing
Speaker 1: that and I know you think I always like to
Speaker 1: pick on Rex, I'm actually not going to pick on Rex,
Speaker 1: but over his Buffalo tenure. The team has been highly undisciplined,
Speaker 1: which is on him. I don't care what the offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator is. It's been an issue with penalties on both
Speaker 1: sides of the ball after this game, because the Bills
Speaker 1: are frisky at home no matter what happens, which is
Speaker 1: which is true? Do you have any higher trust factor
Speaker 1: in the Bills turning this season around or is this
Speaker 1: a kind of game we'll look back on and say
Speaker 1: that was weird? Yeah. I don't know if I believe
Speaker 1: that they're gonna put it all together. But I thought
Speaker 1: there would be a circle the wagons game and Rex
Speaker 1: would um the promise. He's always circling the wagons. That's
Speaker 1: part of this, right. You never know if you could
Speaker 1: get this Bill's team in any given week. I don't
Speaker 1: have much that you're gonna get it weak Aftercdotically, anecdotally,
Speaker 1: you can say, oh, I knew Rex would have his
Speaker 1: team show up one of these two games. But there's
Speaker 1: gonna be stinkers along the way where you think, and
Speaker 1: you can't. You can't win without a passing game, and
Speaker 1: I think they have shown over three games they can't
Speaker 1: throw right now, and Rex is going to be one
Speaker 1: of the best defensive coordinators in the league next year,
Speaker 1: I believe because of games like this, He's got Zach Brown,
Speaker 1: Corey White, Lorenzo Alexandria, Aaron Williams, Preston Brown, core game
Speaker 1: like all these guys that are not the premier guys
Speaker 1: kind of going out there, flying around and dominating the
Speaker 1: game against the Cardinal and Rex feeling feeling good after
Speaker 1: the game. Was asked about the Patriots their next matchup,
Speaker 1: he had this to say about their quarterback situation. Look,
Speaker 1: I can say, Bannuly, I don't care who plays quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I know Brady ain't as I don't care who plays quarterback.
Speaker 1: Steve Grogan played quarterback. If Fellow checks playing quarterback, we're
Speaker 1: coming after him. Yeah, I promise you that. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: He is highly tedious. How about this strategy? Your mouth
Speaker 1: shut for once? He's so obsessed with and Beltech specifically,
Speaker 1: it's it's a little single white female. Uh. Let's let's
Speaker 1: move on, gentlemen. Uh and talk about the Oakland Raiders
Speaker 1: versus the Tennessee Titans. Yes we do. We described that
Speaker 1: as a team of a TL loser goes home match.
Speaker 1: Derek carthrough for two nine yards and a score in
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariote in the Titans offense remains stuck in mud
Speaker 1: a seventeen ten Ray, there's win over the Titoons. West
Speaker 1: is the time to make that phone call to break
Speaker 1: up with them? Yeah, pull the plug, I mean, pull
Speaker 1: the plug on the Titans. And if there's one case
Speaker 1: that you can stack against him, say, this is why
Speaker 1: they're off. They're passing attack is contested passes of eight
Speaker 1: yards or less. Those passes aren't supposed to be contested.
Speaker 1: They're supposed to be easy. That's what they throw short
Speaker 1: of the sticks and it's up for grabs, like the
Speaker 1: receivers aren't getting open. There's no creativity. Marcus Mariotte's decision
Speaker 1: making his regrets this the running game. There were signs
Speaker 1: of life. Henry and Murray both look good. But you're
Speaker 1: you're talking about a defense allowing over five yards of
Speaker 1: game and the Titans can't pass on them until they
Speaker 1: open up the offense and the two minutes drill at
Speaker 1: the end of the game. Why not? Yeah, why aren't
Speaker 1: they playing hurry up earlier? That's not their vision for
Speaker 1: what they want to do. I mean, it's a fair question,
Speaker 1: but that's not their vision. Once that I saw three
Speaker 1: catches for twenty eight yards by the Titans are eivers
Speaker 1: and wide receivers entering the fourth quarter. Well that's the
Speaker 1: Raiders against those defense. I don't know how I'm suddenly
Speaker 1: in the position of defending the Titans. Sorry, cant tonight
Speaker 1: have a terrible cough, um, but I mean, like the
Speaker 1: people on periscope got to see you hit the button? Well,
Speaker 1: I watched the periscope thing last week on these hideous
Speaker 1: interludes of me coughing that are not caught because we
Speaker 1: have a cough button for the audio version, but they're
Speaker 1: absolutely um a plague on the periscope crowd. I apologize,
Speaker 1: but honestly, this plan and what they're trying to do, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're not there yet. That I get. They're not the
Speaker 1: team of a tal right now, But I I are
Speaker 1: you throwing? Do you think the whole thing just needs
Speaker 1: to be jumped? Because why why are you saying that
Speaker 1: after three weeks? I get tweets all day. Is Marcus
Speaker 1: Mariota terrible as they regressed? Is he just not a
Speaker 1: good quarterback? I think Marcus Mariota could be an outstanding
Speaker 1: quarterback with a better offensive mind controlling his career, and
Speaker 1: I hope Josh McDaniels lands in Nashville so we can
Speaker 1: see that. To Mark's point, they should be there a No.
Speaker 1: And three team in my mind, and they've managed the
Speaker 1: schedule enough to be one and two. We'll see how
Speaker 1: this AFC South plays out, but all of the offseason
Speaker 1: excitement about this division has not panned out early. It
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me if the Titans end up getting interesting later.
Speaker 1: But there I'm just saying, we've given the Jaguars and
Speaker 1: we're all kicking ourselves for it. Maybe a long leash,
Speaker 1: and the Titans this identity and regime they're under their
Speaker 1: months into it. They're also playing with a formula where
Speaker 1: they're constantly has to play catchup when they want to
Speaker 1: run the ball, and that's all they want to do
Speaker 1: is run the ball. Do they lack you? Down field? Element?
Speaker 1: Right is so desperately do they lack it? They'd never
Speaker 1: go down The Jayson Morrow Jets wash out was their
Speaker 1: leading receivers. That's why every catch tested because defenses know
Speaker 1: that they don't have to play more than fifteen yards back.
Speaker 1: I mean, Mariotte has been a little a little lost
Speaker 1: for three games. Do the Raiders get any credit for this?
Speaker 1: I mean, they don't have a good defense. I don't
Speaker 1: want to of them credit because the Titans are in
Speaker 1: apt in passing game? How did Derek Car look? The
Speaker 1: Raiders have done a nice job managing the schedule here
Speaker 1: with two wins to gave up ten points, though, I mean,
Speaker 1: I know Tennessee has problems, but this would be qualified
Speaker 1: for the defense. A very chintzy offensive pass interference called
Speaker 1: negated the game tying touchdown from mon J Johnson, and
Speaker 1: then the next play I think it was Harry Douglass
Speaker 1: clearly got interfered with the guy held his arm down
Speaker 1: so he couldn't jump, and there was no cold whatsoever.
Speaker 1: This could easily have been a tie game or a
Speaker 1: Titans win if the play, If the referee was a
Speaker 1: little bit more fair in that end of game situation,
Speaker 1: Derek Carr deserves credit. He is incredibly elusive in the
Speaker 1: pocket and hard to sack. He's been sacked I think
Speaker 1: twice all year. He was sacked once today. There was
Speaker 1: one really cool play where he escaped pressure, ran around
Speaker 1: for a while and found Michael Crabtree and Amari Cooper.
Speaker 1: He's one of the most fun players to watch in
Speaker 1: the and I like I like crab Tree. Crab Tree
Speaker 1: has wins them a game every once in a while,
Speaker 1: and just reading some of the reports in this game,
Speaker 1: it sounds like this is one of those games. He
Speaker 1: seems like their number one red zone target too. He
Speaker 1: seems to really like crab treat in short spaces near
Speaker 1: the end. Yeah, I think he likes Crabtree on contested catches.
Speaker 1: Reminder that Tuesday, we will you know, take a look,
Speaker 1: perhaps choose the team of a t L or perhaps
Speaker 1: not choose the team. But that's all gonna come to
Speaker 1: a head this week as we try to answer to that.
Speaker 1: But we can let that drama unfold as you wish
Speaker 1: one if you wanted to see good tease, Mark, I
Speaker 1: like that one thing to look forward with the Raiders defense, uh,
Speaker 1: two rookies entered the starting lineup, Karl Joseph and Corey James.
Speaker 1: Karl Joseph as strong safety, Corey Jones Corey James a
Speaker 1: middle linebacker, and they had the two too highest tackle
Speaker 1: totals on the team. There you go, Moving on Wounded
Speaker 1: Animal game, guys, Baltimore Ravens, Well, there's a lot of them.
Speaker 1: I mean Week two is the big Why didn't we
Speaker 1: point out healthy animal game? Like the Jaguars just whimpered,
Speaker 1: do you want do you want a healthy animal? I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: give me a healthy animal. There's just the Ravens animals
Speaker 1: just dragged around the field all over the place, Dan
Speaker 1: animals on Budsman, the bunch of carcasses. The Ravens entered
Speaker 1: UH Sunday's game at Jacksonville at two and oh and
Speaker 1: Uh they needed to get by the Jaguars who are
Speaker 1: desperate at o and two and who they lean on?
Speaker 1: You know, just the guy, just a humble kicker named
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker, who hit UH four field goals, including a
Speaker 1: fifty four yarder to put the Ravens ahead. Nineteen seventeen.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars had one last chance with the maddening Blake
Speaker 1: Bortles at the controls, but their desperation drive at the
Speaker 1: end ended like this. Portals takes the snap pumps once
Speaker 1: grows down the seam and it is intercepted. Zach Or
Speaker 1: has it at the forty. He slides down and the
Speaker 1: hairs in the barn second left and the Ravens fans
Speaker 1: are Soonville the classic Baltimore phrase Hayes in the barn
Speaker 1: w Batimore, Jerry Sandusky with the call. They so not
Speaker 1: that Jerry Sandusky. So like the Ravens are now three
Speaker 1: and oh and the Jaguars cannot find a way. The
Speaker 1: Jaguars we talked were talked up, are to me dead
Speaker 1: at oh and three. I think if you look at
Speaker 1: the history, how how oh and three teams shake out,
Speaker 1: They're in deep, deep trouble now. And my big takeaway
Speaker 1: from the game another another slow start for Blake Bortles,
Speaker 1: who uh could not move the offense at all early on,
Speaker 1: did get it going a little bit in the middle
Speaker 1: portion of the game, uh two touchdowns to Allen Robinson
Speaker 1: where where Bordles looked a lot better. But at the
Speaker 1: end of the game, again you know, they were unable
Speaker 1: to take advantage of some good field position. And then
Speaker 1: after the Tucker field goal, they had an opportunity and
Speaker 1: and Bordles took a terrible, terrible sack uh that when
Speaker 1: he could have easily thrown the ball away and saved
Speaker 1: their last time out and given them a shot, he
Speaker 1: took a big sap for a big loss and lost
Speaker 1: their time out. And then the interception soon followed, So
Speaker 1: Bordles continues to be a work in progress. He's not
Speaker 1: close to a finished product at this point. At least
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have to hope. But for a team with
Speaker 1: this much greg tallon on both sides of the ball,
Speaker 1: they're owing three and looking again at irrelevance by Halloween.
Speaker 1: And they head to London this week to play the
Speaker 1: Colts and in a game that has not been kind
Speaker 1: to coaches leaving London. Wait, what are you saying. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying anything bust win or go home. I hope not.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't see the Jaguars as that type
Speaker 1: of that happening. I don't. I'm no route for guys
Speaker 1: to get fired after four weeks. I don't think it
Speaker 1: helps in particular especially all right, let's look, and this
Speaker 1: is a team that should be good on offense. I
Speaker 1: know they spent a lot of money on defense, but
Speaker 1: you kind of figured this is a young offensive team.
Speaker 1: Eighteen carries for thirty one yards between Yelled and Ivory,
Speaker 1: and then in the passing game not a single catch
Speaker 1: over twenty yards. That's supposed to be a big play offense.
Speaker 1: So that's two straight weeks where the Jaguars offense no showed.
Speaker 1: That is what stood out for me, because what we
Speaker 1: liked about Jacksonville's attack last season and also in the preseason,
Speaker 1: especially when Chris Ivory was healthy, the running game number
Speaker 1: one set up did made you have to respect the
Speaker 1: run game. And then suddenly these big plays are happening
Speaker 1: downfield with Hearns and Robinson. It's going away and Chris
Speaker 1: Ivory obviously is not. Whatever was going on with Chris Ivory?
Speaker 1: Did you look healthy Dan today? How do you come
Speaker 1: out of the game with twelve carries for fourteen yards
Speaker 1: after Cleveland, a team that everyone considers a talent moribund franchise,
Speaker 1: lashed them last week. They destroyed them on the ground. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I I would have to
Speaker 1: say I didn't watch him all that closely, but the
Speaker 1: carries that I do recall, especially his first few carries
Speaker 1: when they were trying to get him involved, you couldn't
Speaker 1: move the ball um, So yeah, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know where Ivy is that physically, we still don't even
Speaker 1: know what was wrong with him, so it's kind of
Speaker 1: a hard thing to figure and and what a job
Speaker 1: by the Ravens who haven't. Now that's what three straight
Speaker 1: weeks they've been in one score games. They've found a
Speaker 1: way to win. And know it's kind of the Ravens
Speaker 1: are feeling things when now after the game, Steve Smith
Speaker 1: goes eight for eighty seven and he's ripping Jalen Ramsey saying,
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey said he didn't respect him as a man,
Speaker 1: and Steve Steve Smith's going on social media. You know
Speaker 1: this is raven c Well, is it necessary for Steve
Speaker 1: Smith to say that either it's not just calm down?
Speaker 1: He said, Steve, I've got cleats with stronger thread than youth,
Speaker 1: that's I mean. And Ramsey likes to tout his own
Speaker 1: horn a little bit. Yes, he's throwing that against Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers too. Steve Smith can add him to Fred Smoot,
Speaker 1: who he pulled the rowboat touchdown dance on. I keep
Speaker 1: to leave ice up son Genera's Jenkins that you're no
Speaker 1: prime time dance. And now Jalen Ramsey, I've got more
Speaker 1: threat in my cleats than Mark. Yeah, I feel like
Speaker 1: you would like that respect your elders. I do respect
Speaker 1: my elders. Uh, you know I've been wanting Dan and
Speaker 1: I did do that with with you for a while. Well,
Speaker 1: it's sometimes you just recognize that it's a lost cause.
Speaker 1: Well you know, so, yeah, a bad loss for for
Speaker 1: the Jags, And uh, what can I say? The very
Speaker 1: reason I thought the Ravens would be better this year
Speaker 1: is because healthy Flacco, who makes plays almost a lead.
Speaker 1: I think you could even argue he's elite. I don't
Speaker 1: want to go down in the road right now. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: not perfect. But he also had a stretch where he
Speaker 1: had twenty one straight completions. I think the elite Flacco
Speaker 1: discussion is for other shows. Yeah, that it probably is.
Speaker 1: But he had twenty one straight completions, which was a
Speaker 1: Baltimore record, and then had number twenty two dropped one
Speaker 1: in the bucket for Mike Wallace for a touchdown that
Speaker 1: went right through his hands. So maybe the numbers are
Speaker 1: a little misleading as well. But between having Joe Flacco,
Speaker 1: a great coaching staff, and a great kicker and Justin Tucker,
Speaker 1: they're gonna win games. They're gonna win close games. Seems
Speaker 1: to win more games than any kicker in the lead. Well,
Speaker 1: and after he hit this one, he's just walking around
Speaker 1: the field like this and his arms out. I mean
Speaker 1: the guy's you know, he's loving it. If a game, though,
Speaker 1: is led by the kicking star, it's always going to
Speaker 1: be at the back end of the show. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: just the way it works. Justin Tucker is a tweet
Speaker 1: this out. He's the NFL kicker version of Erne McCracken
Speaker 1: from Kingpin. Very high on himself, doesn't care if other
Speaker 1: people don't like him because he knows he's the best. Finally,
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams break out the Rams and get
Speaker 1: that extension signed. Jeff Fisher signed the blanket extension quick
Speaker 1: Case Kingdom and Todd Gurley each had two touchdowns, and
Speaker 1: the l A Rams broke out of their season long
Speaker 1: offensive slump a thirty seven to thirty two road win
Speaker 1: over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Greg number one, what's going
Speaker 1: on with your team of a t L nominee at
Speaker 1: number two? Thirty seven points for the Rams. Huh Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm not giving him wrong team to play that song for.
Speaker 1: You're not giving up? No, I don't care. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: root for him. I think they're gonna be good in
Speaker 1: the long run. There they still they are still things
Speaker 1: that I'm excited about. But their defense was a problem.
Speaker 1: Their game management was a problem. They lost. They were
Speaker 1: the better team in this game. Four seventy yards of
Speaker 1: offense they lost. They lost eight points, two extra points
Speaker 1: and then missed two point conversions and miss field goals
Speaker 1: because Aguayo was killing them and then the key playing
Speaker 1: the game. Really, the only offense that the Rams had
Speaker 1: in the last twenty five minutes was a sack fumble
Speaker 1: that bounced up and they returned it seventy five yards
Speaker 1: with Ethan Westbrooks, a Hard Knocks favorite, probably the career.
Speaker 1: They win the game. I'm I'm rooting for Roberto Aguayo,
Speaker 1: but second round. But this is why you don't draft
Speaker 1: a kicker in the second round, because now you might
Speaker 1: have to carry an extra kicker on your roster because
Speaker 1: you can't trust the one you just invested so heavily
Speaker 1: that the missed extra point in the field goals that
Speaker 1: they were chasing that throughout the game. I also think
Speaker 1: Dirk Cotters made some very curious decisions the last week,
Speaker 1: last two weeks, and his lack of time out called
Speaker 1: at the end of this game was absolutely insane. They
Speaker 1: ended up running the clock ended with the Bucks in
Speaker 1: the red zone, still with two time outs in their pocket,
Speaker 1: and they burned twenty seconds on just a few plays
Speaker 1: before that when Charles Sims didn't go out of bound.
Speaker 1: It was it was absolutely crazy. But give do give
Speaker 1: some credit to the Rams, I mean the first place.
Speaker 1: Ms well, how about so and we talked about Girly
Speaker 1: being so ham strung in that offense with the way
Speaker 1: they were set up over the first two weeks. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at it. I see eighty five yards three point
Speaker 1: one average. I don't know, I mean, are we is
Speaker 1: there more? Hope here had a good second half, he
Speaker 1: was The average was much lower than that in the
Speaker 1: first half, and they did run the ball a little
Speaker 1: bit in the second half, ran it pretty well. This was,
Speaker 1: you know, a Bucks team without Robert Airs, without Doug Martin. Um,
Speaker 1: Girly looked better. He looked a little better. You were
Speaker 1: very uh you were sending praise towards Robert Quinn during
Speaker 1: the game. I think Robert Quinn makes this defense totally different.
Speaker 1: Because Ogiltree is playing well, He's always in the mix
Speaker 1: of getting, you know, penalties for playing too aggressively. But
Speaker 1: Robert Quinn suddenly you have not just Aaron Donald, the
Speaker 1: best defensive tackler, one of them in the league. Now
Speaker 1: you have a guy in Robert Quinn who's a defensive
Speaker 1: Player of the Year type of player, and he looks
Speaker 1: really good. The last couple of games, he made the
Speaker 1: key couple of players in this game to win it.
Speaker 1: By the way, Ethan Westbrooks is, that's his official sound
Speaker 1: drop anytime he comes up on this podcast. He is
Speaker 1: the guy from a Hard Knocks that had the tattoo
Speaker 1: on his face and that insane drill instructor defensive line
Speaker 1: coach wadded up a ball paper and threw it in
Speaker 1: his face, uh in a fit of rage at one
Speaker 1: point in the most forgettable season of Hard Knocks. Awesome
Speaker 1: human history, little trivel trivia on Ethan Westbrooks. Also the
Speaker 1: guy when draft they were like, I don't think we
Speaker 1: can keep Sam on the roster. We're gonna cut him
Speaker 1: because this guy, Ethan Westbrooks beat him out. What a
Speaker 1: rich history. I mean, you know, my one, my one thing, Greg,
Speaker 1: because I think you're conceit that their offense here and there,
Speaker 1: and you know Doug, you didn't have Doug Martin on
Speaker 1: the field today, that their offense is is interesting to watch.
Speaker 1: I'll give you that. My problem is they've given up
Speaker 1: seventy seven points in two weeks and you just went
Speaker 1: on a three minute diet tribe about massive coaching decision blunders.
Speaker 1: Those things hopefully can be overcome. Well, a lot of
Speaker 1: sandwiches time in what you call the most exciting division
Speaker 1: of football. So there's a lot to wade through here.
Speaker 1: Five yards for the Winston spoiler alert, the Buccaneers will
Speaker 1: not be the team of the never. They never had
Speaker 1: a chance. For those of you alive two weeks ago
Speaker 1: listening to this, that's still a spoiler theme of Greg
Speaker 1: tl Um. Got a lot of splintering here. Anyway, that's
Speaker 1: it for the games. We move on now to Sunday
Speaker 1: Night Football. Sunday Night. Yes you heard Carrie. That means
Speaker 1: it's time to talk about the primetime game played in
Speaker 1: front of Al Chris and the world. The Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 1: in Jerald World haven't won there since Week one of Sunday.
Speaker 1: Let's down her? Yeah? Is it me? Or is Carrie
Speaker 1: kind of like Sunday Night? You know, she doesn't sound
Speaker 1: that excited for this game. Bears were involved. I mean,
Speaker 1: how the Bears we're talking about the Bears in a
Speaker 1: primetime game for the second time in six days or
Speaker 1: five days my own come on, get it together, society. Anyway,
Speaker 1: the Bears were no match for the Dallas Cowboys, who
Speaker 1: looked like the better team, played like the better team,
Speaker 1: and in the end, the final score told us the
Speaker 1: Cowboys were the better team, thirty one to seventeen. Put
Speaker 1: it in the books. The Cowboys win, they moved to
Speaker 1: two and one. The Bears, Uh, in a wounded animal
Speaker 1: game fall to oh and three? You know that means
Speaker 1: mark oh and three? What is mean? Next week? Starving
Speaker 1: dog game? You're anti take on animals and pets in general.
Speaker 1: But I don't understand why are you reading into it
Speaker 1: like I'm against animals. It's a thing that wouldn't a
Speaker 1: wound I would rather be a starving dog than being
Speaker 1: a wounded animal. Typical Patriots fantasy. It's is it when
Speaker 1: it's it better to be oh and three? And it's
Speaker 1: the rib cage is showing. It's a very sad thing.
Speaker 1: Uh when once you become the starving dog. But right now,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the Dallas Cowboys who got a big
Speaker 1: game out of Ezekiel Elliott, who looked every bit like
Speaker 1: the running back that they drafted UH so high UH
Speaker 1: this spring. He ran the ball thirty times for a
Speaker 1: hundred and forty yards. UH didn't find the end zone,
Speaker 1: but still that is what they were looking for. Added
Speaker 1: two catches for twenty yards, so a hundred and sixty
Speaker 1: yards in offense from Elliott. Dak Prescott again look tremendous
Speaker 1: nineteen and his first career touchdown that went to Yes.
Speaker 1: A perfect night for the Dallas Cowboys. Dez Bryant, who
Speaker 1: overcame an early scare in the first quarter with a
Speaker 1: knee issue and UH had a presence in this game,
Speaker 1: including his first touch on of the season. So the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are now two and one, which puts the one
Speaker 1: game behind the Philadelphia Eagles and Chris Westling. Uh. Forget
Speaker 1: about the Bears boring the Cowboys. What do you see today?
Speaker 1: Do you like what you saw? I liked what I saw,
Speaker 1: and I like we should have had the periscope running
Speaker 1: when Ezekiel Elliott hurdled defender and caused Mark Sessler to
Speaker 1: raise his level of interest in the game by about
Speaker 1: yelling profanities at the screen in our studio, I thought
Speaker 1: it was just you know, Elliott over the first two
Speaker 1: weeks been a little up and down. The whole offense
Speaker 1: has been a little up and down, but they've had
Speaker 1: their moments. Elliott tonight, in what great contrast the Chicago's
Speaker 1: rushing game and their complete low wattage lack of exciting
Speaker 1: running backs, Elliott performed. This game was about him, and
Speaker 1: they smothered the Bears tonight, And to me, it showed
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys are good enough team that they take
Speaker 1: care of business. They beat a team that they should be,
Speaker 1: which is I don't think we should take that for granted.
Speaker 1: When it comes to this Cowboys team, who doesn't really
Speaker 1: have a defense, who has a fourth round rookie starting
Speaker 1: at quarterback each and every week, Dak Prescott looks like
Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback. In the last two games alone, there
Speaker 1: eight scoring drives, all went for over seventy two yards.
Speaker 1: So this is a team that's dictating, especially in the
Speaker 1: first quarter. He's the anti Blake Bordles, and the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are the anti Jaguars. When the game starts, they do
Speaker 1: what they want to do for a quarter and they
Speaker 1: set the tempo. And what a relief it must be
Speaker 1: for Jerry Jones, uh, for Jason Garrett, for every Cowboy
Speaker 1: fan watching that, for Tony rom wanna get hurt and
Speaker 1: then know that the season is not over, to know
Speaker 1: that you're still incapable hands with Dak Prescott, who looks
Speaker 1: so good, does not look anything like a late round
Speaker 1: uh A quarterback, a guy that that can carry this
Speaker 1: team or help carry this team all the way till
Speaker 1: Tony Robo gets back and I Tony Romo was not
Speaker 1: right or if he goes down again, they're okay. It's
Speaker 1: interesting Greg pointed out that Dak Prescott's and Carson wentz
Speaker 1: His passing stats are almost identical. Wentz has the five touchdowns,
Speaker 1: Prescott has two rushing touchdowns to go with his one
Speaker 1: or but otherwise their numbers look great. I think Cowboys
Speaker 1: fans have to be thrilled with the guy they ended
Speaker 1: up drafting when they couldn't get uh Paxton, Lynch and Conn.
Speaker 1: They got the forty nine ers next week, and that's
Speaker 1: a game that you want to win if you're the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and then suddenly you're three and one. The schedule gets
Speaker 1: a little harder after that. But when you're thinking about
Speaker 1: Prescott and Romo, it's like you want to get to
Speaker 1: five and five or six and four, and it's it's
Speaker 1: not like this offense looks not much worse than you
Speaker 1: would have expected it to be on a roma. It's
Speaker 1: a little more limited and they should have some defensive
Speaker 1: players coming back after week four two. Well, right, this
Speaker 1: was where they wanted to get to without being in
Speaker 1: sort of a disaster zone, and it's been the opposite.
Speaker 1: There's a ton of hope in Dallas. You've got what
Speaker 1: could be, you know, the makings of your new triplets
Speaker 1: that you know Cowboys fans still look back to the
Speaker 1: nineties and wonder when they'll ever win a Super Bowl again,
Speaker 1: be a regular playoff type team, and the idea that
Speaker 1: would happen last year with Romo out, it's not just
Speaker 1: you have someone to take you to Romo's return. We
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen with Romo and another
Speaker 1: enough hot takes with that, but you've got a quarterback
Speaker 1: for the long term to to continue to grow behind Romo.
Speaker 1: If you wanted to bring him back for a couple
Speaker 1: more years, your triplets or Dak Prescott, Zeel Elliott and
Speaker 1: Cool Beasley, no, I would say they're obviously, does Brian
Speaker 1: Briana play? Does Brian Well? That is one fascinating part
Speaker 1: of this offense because there continues to be a ton
Speaker 1: of players targeted and Elliott and Dees is not the
Speaker 1: guy coming out, you know, stat line wise with the
Speaker 1: numbers each week and u NFL schedule makers come back
Speaker 1: to us, I mean, they're back in primetime. The Bears
Speaker 1: are back in prime time week seven and eight. They
Speaker 1: are the worst team in the league, and they are
Speaker 1: less watchable than some of the other bad teams like
Speaker 1: say the Browns, who I think are entertaining, or even
Speaker 1: the forty Niners, who are so crazy that you can
Speaker 1: watch them. The Bears of the work. The Browns are
Speaker 1: the first team you could think of I mean about
Speaker 1: an actual, real contendation. No, I'm just saying into this
Speaker 1: I've seen among bad teams, they're even particularly unwatchable. My
Speaker 1: point is, going into the season the Bears, there was
Speaker 1: no excitement around this team anyway. I don't understand how
Speaker 1: they got there. I don't know what they were thinking
Speaker 1: back in you know, the early spring, when they're creating
Speaker 1: these schedules that Chicago made sense for America and football
Speaker 1: fans as four primetime games. Because you go back to
Speaker 1: anything under John Chicago was laying unwatchable eggs last year,
Speaker 1: So what happened between then and now that suggests them
Speaker 1: as primetimes. You would think that oppressions would be a
Speaker 1: quality you would want, and a schedule maker, yes, that
Speaker 1: they need to be. Okay, we went on on a
Speaker 1: on a low note. It's I am not watching those games.
Speaker 1: I don't know if if I'm assigned to any task,
Speaker 1: the task will not get done. Join me and walking
Speaker 1: down watching the boulevard and straight into the Pacific. I'm
Speaker 1: with you. That's it, um for all the Sunday games.
Speaker 1: We will be back on on on Tuesday, another round
Speaker 1: of podcast. Good good show guys. Everybody. Remember, um, you
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