Speaker 1: Mr Jones returnament ball and the balls on the ground
Speaker 1: beating the second three tex it home from the touchdown side.
Speaker 1: That's Collins houseo call for New England. Price you get
Speaker 1: it signed that tone home for the touchdown. Jacoby Brissette,
Speaker 1: not Jake Brisket getting it done for Bill Belichick and
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots and the throne of ease in
Speaker 1: a twenty seven to nothing Patriots victory over the Texans.
Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal. I'm here with Chris Westling. We're gonna
Speaker 1: talk about the Thursday night game before previewing all the
Speaker 1: week three games with Dan Hansis and Mark Sessler in
Speaker 1: a bit west watching this, I felt like this is
Speaker 1: one of those games I will remember as a Bill
Speaker 1: Belichick O file as one of his signature games as
Speaker 1: a coach. Absolutely, and I for all of the back
Speaker 1: padding for Bill Belichick over the past three weeks. Josh
Speaker 1: McDaniels deserves as much love, taking two disparate skill sets
Speaker 1: like Jimmy Garoppolo and Jacoby Brisett, and concocting game plans
Speaker 1: this time on three days to highlight per set strength
Speaker 1: hide his weaknesses against the defense. There was in the
Speaker 1: running for best other than the Broncos, right. I think
Speaker 1: the complexity that they came to this game with in
Speaker 1: terms of the running game was was special. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's an end around with with Martellis Bennett. There's all
Speaker 1: sorts of different variations of fly sweeps. There's some counter
Speaker 1: option stuff straight out of a Navy playbook. Uh. Someone
Speaker 1: on Twitter pointed out they lined up in a in
Speaker 1: a single T formation for a couple of stuffs and
Speaker 1: they're putting all this into the game plan on just
Speaker 1: a couple of days. And while some coaches they kind
Speaker 1: of have their system and they're gonna do their system,
Speaker 1: It's like the Patriot look at what they have and
Speaker 1: they figure out the best way to use their players.
Speaker 1: I know, it's one of your favorite canards that there
Speaker 1: are only five or six coaches in the NFL that
Speaker 1: really matter to the good and the bad, and the
Speaker 1: rest of the league is in the middle. It's fun
Speaker 1: to see coaching with a vision, a plan, and a
Speaker 1: mode of attack versus a lot of coaches that are
Speaker 1: vanilla from game to game and you know what you're
Speaker 1: gonna get, right. And when I when I think of
Speaker 1: the Patriots, I think how complimentary they are in terms
Speaker 1: of the football they play. It's like you watch the
Speaker 1: Saints or the Dolphins, like their defense will have a
Speaker 1: great game when their offense isn't very good, or vice versa.
Speaker 1: And part of the reason Belichick deserves credit here is
Speaker 1: you know, their defense comes out today and they pitched
Speaker 1: a shutout and Jacoby Brisette did great. Ultimately, he only
Speaker 1: had to throw for a hundred and something yards and
Speaker 1: they got to sit on the ball a little bit
Speaker 1: in the second half because the defense didn't give up
Speaker 1: a point. Well, the Texans fell right into the Patriots trap.
Speaker 1: They came out and the cover to daring Oswater to
Speaker 1: throw deep or basically daring them to run because they're
Speaker 1: taking the deep all away, right, And then the Texans
Speaker 1: responded with a hyper conservative game plan that included several
Speaker 1: runs on third and long where they just didn't seem
Speaker 1: to trust us while or not to throw the ball
Speaker 1: up for grabs. They gave. They had to give up
Speaker 1: third and twenty, and it was the game was over
Speaker 1: at that point. But to watch them give up and
Speaker 1: a third and eight in the first quarter, they had
Speaker 1: a third and five along the way, well, I think
Speaker 1: Osweiler was a little scrambled by what he was seeing.
Speaker 1: They're a team that usually gets crazy, and I don't
Speaker 1: think they really got crazy on defense in this game.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't willing to go down the field. Then
Speaker 1: he did try to jam one in and my boy,
Speaker 1: Jamie Collins makes a big interception. Collins. Collins has been
Speaker 1: incredible the last couple of games. Well, we both mentioned
Speaker 1: that when he came in he was a athletic and
Speaker 1: dynamic as any linebacker. You'll see he's doing backward handsprings.
Speaker 1: Now he's jacked. He's much bigger physically and tougher and
Speaker 1: cleans up the run game better. And they're and they're fast.
Speaker 1: And I don't think this means that Osweiler is a
Speaker 1: bad quarterback. You know, he does have more interceptions because
Speaker 1: six interceptions in his last four games going back to
Speaker 1: last year. He's got clearly got a long delivery and
Speaker 1: he's slowed the process in the pocket. I think those
Speaker 1: are things they're gonna stay with him. He has more
Speaker 1: interceptions this year than touchdown drives. You know, they only
Speaker 1: have three touchdowns on offense. Right they have too much talent.
Speaker 1: The offensive line has been a problem. They don't open
Speaker 1: holes for Lamar Miller and Will Fuller for his as
Speaker 1: much of a playmaker as he is, every week he
Speaker 1: drops a path he does Logan Ryan and Malcolm Butler
Speaker 1: both had great games. The Patriots are faster on defense.
Speaker 1: Chris Long has been a good pick up that that's
Speaker 1: all great, but I still take a step back, and
Speaker 1: I know, you know, look, Mark and Dan, they're sending
Speaker 1: tweets out, They're sending texts, they're sending messages on our
Speaker 1: instant messenger client which will not be named, and they're
Speaker 1: trying to make me I don't know there. It's almost
Speaker 1: like they want me to feel guilty or bad about
Speaker 1: enjoying this Patriots team. Has been a three pronged deteck
Speaker 1: from Mark Sessler in the last half an hour Twitter
Speaker 1: text and our inter office messaging client, which has these
Speaker 1: three lines writes your pretty articles about the Patriots. What
Speaker 1: a joke gonna fly on white wine? Nothing left for
Speaker 1: clowns who follows teams. Love Mark, but you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna not enjoy this um
Speaker 1: And that might sound like a Throne of East type statement,
Speaker 1: but you know it would be even more insulting on
Speaker 1: the throne of EASTA not appreciate what's going on here
Speaker 1: with Bill Belichick and this team. Not just early this
Speaker 1: early this season, this has been one of the more
Speaker 1: fun things to watch, but just in general that you're watching.
Speaker 1: You know, they were joking on NFL Network they should rename,
Speaker 1: you know, the Lombardi Trophy the Belichick Trophy. That's a joke.
Speaker 1: But as someone that loves football, and of course I'm
Speaker 1: wildly lucky it's my team. This is one of the greatest,
Speaker 1: if not the greatest coaches of all time, and he's
Speaker 1: in the middle of this run and he just keeps
Speaker 1: topping himself. And every time you think they've got a
Speaker 1: little too much against him, they do something like drop
Speaker 1: twenty seven and nothing on a two and no team.
Speaker 1: And if you can't enjoy that, then you can't enjoy football. Well,
Speaker 1: he was already regarded as the greatest coach in the
Speaker 1: twenty first century, but you have to I it occurred
Speaker 1: to me that Tom Brady suspension is the best thing
Speaker 1: to happen to Bill Belichick's legacy. There's a new round
Speaker 1: of like recognition of how great he is over the
Speaker 1: past three weeks. It also got me thinking about you know,
Speaker 1: some day Tom Brady will retire and I don't I
Speaker 1: don't know if Bill Belizick will retire then, but you
Speaker 1: know it makes you think, obviously, Tom Brady is maybe
Speaker 1: the greatest quarterback of all time. But you know you're
Speaker 1: not gonna count out Bill Belichick from doing some special
Speaker 1: things after Tom Brady has gone. Why would you now?
Speaker 1: And and I really believe you have to emphasize Josh
Speaker 1: McDaniels and Matt Patricia. This is an entire coaching staff
Speaker 1: really putting it together. And mc daniels has been brilliant.
Speaker 1: He's gone, he's that he's gonna be coaching another team
Speaker 1: next year. We're gone two because we got to talk
Speaker 1: about some Week three games other than this twenty seven
Speaker 1: to nothing shell lacking. So uh, let's send it over
Speaker 1: to Dan Hansis to the tune of my favorite song
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL Podcast Own zero square feet of
Speaker 1: Real Estate. Welcome back to another edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hanss and I
Speaker 1: am joined by a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosa. Thought what's up boys? Hey? Dan?
Speaker 1: By the way, it's true we're all renters. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: we live in l A. Will never own it. Something
Speaker 1: to be proud of. Look at this by West. We
Speaker 1: talked about his shirt on the last show, another autumnal
Speaker 1: very uh season like production by Address addresses to the seasons.
Speaker 1: That's it. Bottom line has been decided. Doesn't everyone there
Speaker 1: are no seasons here? No, I don't we wear the
Speaker 1: I'm just saying say we wear the same stuff all
Speaker 1: year round. What you do? What you just heard At
Speaker 1: the top of the show was the recap by Wes
Speaker 1: and Greg Rosenthal, the scientists of the Houston, New England game,
Speaker 1: where they got an up close look at Mr Jake Brisket,
Speaker 1: slice me off a piece of that Jake Bristy. Oh my? Uh?
Speaker 1: Can we go now? Is that? It can? Just there's
Speaker 1: that game, But there are a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1: We've already reached now week three. Isn't it funny how
Speaker 1: things just start flying once the season gets going. We
Speaker 1: have again teams sixteen games one already played. That means
Speaker 1: fifteen games. That means thirty teams to talk about. Wow, uh,
Speaker 1: so we'll go We're all the Sunday games and of
Speaker 1: course the Monday night game. Oh, my god, there's another
Speaker 1: primetime game with the Bears involved. It was a disastrous
Speaker 1: give the people what they want. It was a disastrous
Speaker 1: thought by the NFL. Is it too late to flex
Speaker 1: out of that? Can we do something as a society
Speaker 1: to stop the Bears from playing in front of Al
Speaker 1: Chris and the world. Well, from a personal angle, you
Speaker 1: could just skip it entirely. What what's forcing you to
Speaker 1: watch it? I'm thinking about quitting my job. Well, we're here.
Speaker 1: We have to take a podcast that right afterwards talking
Speaker 1: about that game, so that not all of us. Uh So, yes,
Speaker 1: a lot to get to. We're gonna go through all
Speaker 1: the games, we're gonna touch in on the Team of
Speaker 1: a t L. We're gonna talk about our locks of
Speaker 1: the week. So much stuff to get to. Uh So,
Speaker 1: why don't we dig right in, gentlemen and start with
Speaker 1: the games at one o'clock Eastern time? And the first
Speaker 1: one up? Speaking of the Team of a t L,
Speaker 1: A lot of people threw this out there as a
Speaker 1: possibility um to be kind of like a loser goes
Speaker 1: Home type match in the Team of as the Oakland
Speaker 1: Raiders heading to Nashville to face the Tennessee Titans, the Raiders, who,
Speaker 1: of course the old Zeuser had nominated, the Titans who
Speaker 1: West nominated, and as we said, um and wait, let
Speaker 1: me take just take a second here. I want to
Speaker 1: apologize to both everyone in this room and the listeners.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be the reason why the Team
Speaker 1: of a t L goes away. I want to keep
Speaker 1: this together and Mark what I want to ask of
Speaker 1: you now, You're gonna support the Vikings no matter what
Speaker 1: the season, but can we at least for the for
Speaker 1: the for the sake of unity here, can you use
Speaker 1: the Vikings as your official entrance entrance for the Team
Speaker 1: of a t L nominations so that it's just rejected
Speaker 1: by the three of you. No, I didn't, there's no
Speaker 1: there's no note. We're not going to vote until after
Speaker 1: the third week of games. And even I mean, it's
Speaker 1: received more support publicly than the Buccaneers and I'm sticking
Speaker 1: with them. Listen, in the sake of being cooperative, I
Speaker 1: will consider it, Okay, I mean okay, because I just
Speaker 1: I don't want there are a lot of people that
Speaker 1: that like the Team of at L and what what
Speaker 1: can happen even if the Vikings don't get it, Mark,
Speaker 1: they could be your team because all this and we'll
Speaker 1: get to it, all the stuff going on with the Browns.
Speaker 1: You deserve to have a secondary team this year more
Speaker 1: than anybody, but just to have some structure involved. Would
Speaker 1: you mind just subbing in for the Bengals the Vikings. Yes, again,
Speaker 1: all considered. I think one thing that's happening is that
Speaker 1: Gregg has removed so many segments from the show that
Speaker 1: I don't want another one to float away, So there
Speaker 1: is some pull there. I do care about the listeners.
Speaker 1: That's fair. Can you stop removing you You are the
Speaker 1: two trying to kill the segment last time. Now now
Speaker 1: you pointing fingers. I just said I I came to
Speaker 1: the group just now and I said, I'm sorry. I
Speaker 1: want to make sure. I want to make this park,
Speaker 1: continuing the process. Don't worry. We've got Lock of the
Speaker 1: Week all the segments can That's another thing. We'll get
Speaker 1: to that. Um, it's getting more and more difficult to
Speaker 1: deal with the personalities of the pod guests. I think
Speaker 1: we might this could be the beginning of the end,
Speaker 1: but we're gonna soldier on at least the season. And
Speaker 1: let's get back now to Oakland at Tennessee and UH
Speaker 1: to one and one. Team's two teams with problems. The
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders Mark can't stop anybody on defense, and the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans, well, they're lucky to have a win because
Speaker 1: they haven't looked very good at all. Well, maybe this
Speaker 1: is a get well game for Tennessee. You're at home,
Speaker 1: and I know, Chris that for you the Titans, you
Speaker 1: weren't too excited about him last week, but you know
Speaker 1: this is a young bloom is off the road young group.
Speaker 1: Though teams do not get formed in one or two
Speaker 1: weeks in the NFL, and I emerging you to not
Speaker 1: give up on them as your handidate for team of
Speaker 1: a t L because this coming out of Sunday, if
Speaker 1: they have a win in there, two in one, look,
Speaker 1: the Titans still have work to do, but I think
Speaker 1: this can still be a fun offense. My biggest issue
Speaker 1: with the Tennessee Titans through two games is that Mike
Speaker 1: Malarkey took all the fun out of Marcus Mariota's gy
Speaker 1: Do they miss Ken Wizzen Hunt? I know that's that
Speaker 1: that seems weird to think, but Ken Wizzen out there
Speaker 1: in a nice job with San Diego. Right now, Marcus Mariotta,
Speaker 1: let's call the Peter Princess slow to me in terms
Speaker 1: of his decision making. Now, maybe that's because he has
Speaker 1: all these new wide receivers, but he's taken a long
Speaker 1: time to decide who he's gonna throw too. And when
Speaker 1: you are taking that long and you don't go deep
Speaker 1: down the field, that's tough to overcome. Well, he went
Speaker 1: deep down the fail one time to Delaney Walker for
Speaker 1: a thirty yard touchdown. But that's not nearly enough. You're right.
Speaker 1: Also was intercepted on a deep throw. Yes, he's tried.
Speaker 1: He did finish the last game out well, nine for
Speaker 1: nine and two clutch drives to win a game. Can't
Speaker 1: they look at all? Right, how did we run our
Speaker 1: offense when we finally got going? I know, but Larkey'
Speaker 1: is not uh you know, Bill Belichick back there. But
Speaker 1: it can't be that complicated. What's been working, what's not
Speaker 1: work working? Let's move on to week three and get
Speaker 1: things going here. There's enough talent and a potentially dynamic,
Speaker 1: game changing quarterback. Let's figure this out. Guys. Here's what
Speaker 1: worked Injure. All of the Lions defensive players didn't go
Speaker 1: nine for nine. Wow, you're down on the Titan so
Speaker 1: could they don't deserve much love for that? For that game? Great,
Speaker 1: they had a good game, winning draw. Couldn't you should
Speaker 1: allow it to have a different team of do you
Speaker 1: want to pull the Titans out of conversation? I kind
Speaker 1: of like the loser goes home match, but I like
Speaker 1: the loser goes home match, and I I feel like
Speaker 1: this room is not taking the Texan seriously as team
Speaker 1: of a TV. All right, we will get to the Texans.
Speaker 1: So they're Oakland at Tennessee. A game to watch between
Speaker 1: two teams who a lot of hype going into the season.
Speaker 1: Let's see someone's gonna be one and two in a
Speaker 1: bad spot heading into week four. Moving on, gentlemen, the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings on their teams and bad spots and their
Speaker 1: teams are good spots of Vikes in a very good
Speaker 1: spot at least record wise. Now too and oh after
Speaker 1: a very impressive win over the Packers on Sunday Night football,
Speaker 1: but of course got terrible news um on Wednesday when
Speaker 1: it became official that Adrian Peterson's knee injury, which at
Speaker 1: first there was some reports and it's always annoying when
Speaker 1: injuries reported this way, it's like, oh, it's a tour
Speaker 1: in meniscus, actually good news. It's like nobody knows what
Speaker 1: they're talking about, because what actually happened was they weren't
Speaker 1: shaving the meniscus. They have to repair the thing. There's
Speaker 1: a bucket tear involved, there's an lcloved. He jacked up
Speaker 1: his knee bad. So he is out. What they say
Speaker 1: is four six months, and we know his ability to heal.
Speaker 1: But at the same time you have to think, uh, well,
Speaker 1: there's a chance we've seen the last of Adrian Peterson
Speaker 1: in and maybe with the Vikings in general. So now
Speaker 1: without Teddy Bridgewater, without Adrian Peterson, they head to Charlotte
Speaker 1: to face the Panthers one in one. They put their
Speaker 1: Week one loss behind them, got healthy and a blowout
Speaker 1: win in Week two, and now here we are Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: The Panthers, to me again, are in a very good
Speaker 1: spot here at home. I I don't know if I'll
Speaker 1: pick against them once at home this season. I haven't
Speaker 1: looked at their schedule, but I just think that they're
Speaker 1: very tough to beat, and that offense looks close to unstoppable.
Speaker 1: They do but they started the game slow against San Francisco,
Speaker 1: and this is easily their toughest matchup. Well that's not sure.
Speaker 1: They played Denver in Week one, but this is a
Speaker 1: very tough matchup in the NFC by a defense that
Speaker 1: we think is good enough to to win these types
Speaker 1: of games. So I'm not counting out the Vikings in
Speaker 1: any game that But if you're the Vikings, this lines
Speaker 1: up as a pure said tests because you're on the
Speaker 1: road against one of the best home teams around, and
Speaker 1: you want to talk about It's what we talked about
Speaker 1: on Tuesday with the Panthers, the matchup issue. When you've
Speaker 1: got Calvin Benjamin, Devin Funchius, Greg Olsen and a decent
Speaker 1: running game, no matter who's in there, it seems this
Speaker 1: is gonna test Minnesota's Mike Zimmerlet defense from start to finish.
Speaker 1: I think it's an acid test to see if they
Speaker 1: are emerging as an NFC superpower or if they're still
Speaker 1: in that might be a wild card. Might shown is
Speaker 1: a close race in their division, but maybe not. Can't
Speaker 1: hang with the best teams in the in the conference.
Speaker 1: Well it's early for them and they have some big problems.
Speaker 1: I mean They just lost not only Adrian Peterson, they
Speaker 1: lost Matt Khalil, who was not playing well, but he
Speaker 1: was still your starting left tackle. Their offensive line was
Speaker 1: terrible against Green Bay. They they won a game where
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford got knocked around where Adrian Peterson left the
Speaker 1: game and it wasn't running well anyway. So this is
Speaker 1: a team that they can't survive. They can't expect, say
Speaker 1: Bradford to be that good anticipate throws and survive a
Speaker 1: bad offensive, and that's what happened to him last year.
Speaker 1: They lost one lineman after the next Well we heard
Speaker 1: that there this is a malling group, but you know
Speaker 1: they're kind of built to mall people. Well, where's the
Speaker 1: running game right now? It hasn't been there for Peterson.
Speaker 1: Jerick McKinnon's going to start. He's maybe he's a better
Speaker 1: player on third down than Peterson. At this point, Asiata
Speaker 1: is in there, the son Ronnie Hillman. I'm not really
Speaker 1: worried about the backfield. I'm more worried about Greg Rosenthal Colon.
Speaker 1: Where's the malling Peterson? No, I'm not saying that on
Speaker 1: third downs. They They've said it with their playing calls
Speaker 1: in general. They believe McKinnon is a better player on
Speaker 1: their Adrian Peterson called McKinnon a physical freak. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have to see that happen. Xavier Rhodes might return
Speaker 1: for this game. So you mentioned matching up. There's a
Speaker 1: physical cornerback that could can maybe match up with those
Speaker 1: Panthers receivers. Mark the Vikings are maybe potentially your team
Speaker 1: of a t L entry. Do you see them coming
Speaker 1: out of this game three? Though? Well, I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: yes because I fully believe this team. It's time for
Speaker 1: angos onions why not? I mean, I'm yeah, typically wrong
Speaker 1: on every pick that I make, so it doesn't mean
Speaker 1: anything to the team, but I'll say yes, go win it. Ever,
Speaker 1: Saint Griffin getting after it, They're all getting after why not? Um, alright, guys,
Speaker 1: let's move on now. And uh, we're just talking about
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos. Earlier we mentioned them and now they
Speaker 1: are two and oh as well they had had to Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: This is, uh, to me, one of the games I
Speaker 1: like most about this week. The Broncos at the Bengals,
Speaker 1: who are one and one. A tough loss against the
Speaker 1: Steelers in a you know, a game that's always a
Speaker 1: battle and now they got Denver, so that's quite a
Speaker 1: one two punch. Chris Westling, what were your thoughts and
Speaker 1: your takeaways out of Cincinnati's performance against Pittsburgh. Two takeaways.
Speaker 1: They are five and six and their last eleven games
Speaker 1: and starting eight no list year. Are we sure there's
Speaker 1: still one of the anfc's best team. That's takeaway number one?
Speaker 1: Number two, they're off in to line didn't get as
Speaker 1: much attention as Dallas as last season, but they were
Speaker 1: as rock solid as any offensive line in the NFL.
Speaker 1: They are. They have allowed the most sacks in the
Speaker 1: league this year through two games, and they have not
Speaker 1: rushed for more than sixty yards in a game in
Speaker 1: either games, which that's only happened once in the last
Speaker 1: two years before this season. So as the offensive line
Speaker 1: and issue, and if it is, this is the defensive
Speaker 1: line to take advantage of right Derek Wolf having a
Speaker 1: big game. Uh, Shane Ray had a big game last week.
Speaker 1: This that you're right, they did not look the same
Speaker 1: if you think about that Jets game. For a Bengals
Speaker 1: offensive line to get dominated that much is not something
Speaker 1: we saw all of last This is a team that
Speaker 1: spent high draft picks on multiple lineman last year, and
Speaker 1: part of that five and six record is attached to
Speaker 1: a J. McCarron in the lineup. But it's fair to
Speaker 1: ask because every season it seems like coaches and players
Speaker 1: are pulled from the Bengals and they keep it going.
Speaker 1: At some point that's going to start to cost you,
Speaker 1: and maybe we're starting to see it now. I think
Speaker 1: you're all good points about Cincinnati. I still think they're
Speaker 1: a really good team, and I think they're gonna uh,
Speaker 1: They're gonna hold court against the Broncos. I think Denver's
Speaker 1: uh do for a loss. I think Trevor Simeon is
Speaker 1: gonna struggle big time on the road in Cincinnati, and
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be the key of the game.
Speaker 1: I'm so confident. In fact, listen up, I will make
Speaker 1: the Bengals my Week two look of the Week Banngals
Speaker 1: winning some football games on Sunday, multiple games. One. What
Speaker 1: what led you to this conclusion? I just said, I
Speaker 1: just explain it to you. I like the but I
Speaker 1: think they're better than maybe the rest of the room
Speaker 1: right now, even though they have not played too well
Speaker 1: to start the season, and I don't think Trevor Simeon
Speaker 1: is gonna play well in this spot, and that's gonna
Speaker 1: be the differences. It's Denver's first road game, and I
Speaker 1: think that's something that's notable. It's ben It's the Bengals
Speaker 1: first home game, so that you know, they went one
Speaker 1: and one and one ultimately with a tough two game
Speaker 1: road trip or whatever you want to call it to
Speaker 1: start the season, teams do play. I want to see
Speaker 1: Trevor Simmons in a game where he faces is a
Speaker 1: little more pressure that last game against Indianapolis. As West
Speaker 1: said on Sunday night, you can sort of throw it
Speaker 1: out for him. He didn't do poorly, but he barely
Speaker 1: had to do anything. He didn't face any pass rush
Speaker 1: whatsoever against Indianapolis. So this is a bigger test for
Speaker 1: the Denver offense going on the road against what should
Speaker 1: be a pretty good Bengals defense. That's my prediction. This
Speaker 1: is the Trevor Simeon comes down to Earth game. Doesn't
Speaker 1: mean they're in trouble, but you know, two and one
Speaker 1: after three weeks there, Okay, where was he before? Up
Speaker 1: in the skies? In your mind? I think in the
Speaker 1: public opinion, they they have solved their issue. They have
Speaker 1: this workman like QB and he still might be shown
Speaker 1: a lot of good things in two weeks, but I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a tough week for him and
Speaker 1: they're gonna be missing some key players. Donald Donald Stevenson,
Speaker 1: the right tackle. When he went out of that game
Speaker 1: last week, it hurt him. He's not expected to play.
Speaker 1: Virgil Green, who has kind of been a find at
Speaker 1: tight end, he's not expected to play. They're gonna have
Speaker 1: to roll out Jeff Herman. Uh. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: played a SI for then since he was drafted in
Speaker 1: the third round last year. So a tight end Beijing.
Speaker 1: Mr Herman, you have a phone call at the front desk.
Speaker 1: I believe it's Jeff Hireman. Hireman page. Mr Hireman, you
Speaker 1: have a phone call at the front desk. Move and
Speaker 1: be blamed for not knowing his name because he's injured.
Speaker 1: Has literally never played a single snap. And the Broncos defense,
Speaker 1: they're crazy how many defensive backs they played. Six of
Speaker 1: them played forty snaps last week. But if you're a
Speaker 1: p announcer and you say that you did, it's not
Speaker 1: your fault. But in that in that actual building, that
Speaker 1: P announcer. You're that's that's a public gap. You'd be
Speaker 1: you know, points taken away on you am I alone
Speaker 1: on an island here or the Cincinnati pick was curious.
Speaker 1: This was my team of ah, yelled couple you weeks
Speaker 1: ago before I found a real I would not make them,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I would take the Bengals in a
Speaker 1: in a tight one, I'm going Denver. I'll take the
Speaker 1: Bengals at home. Moving on the Detroit Lions with Jim
Speaker 1: Bob Cooter at offensive coordinator. By the way, you know
Speaker 1: your boy. We talked about it. We've talked about it
Speaker 1: and I've shared I've shared this guy with you guys privately,
Speaker 1: but also I've said it into a mike, so it's
Speaker 1: pretty public. I like this Cooter and I'm not alone
Speaker 1: for president. Because there is a meme growing out of
Speaker 1: the Detroit area in the surrounding communities, Jim Bob Cooter
Speaker 1: for President. You're seeing it on the back of vans,
Speaker 1: You're seeing on T shirts. UH Tarrell Austin, their defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: UH ended a press conference on Thursday by saying Jim
Speaker 1: Bob for president. UH. Coonter was asked about it during
Speaker 1: his press conference, um Jim Caldwell said today when asked
Speaker 1: about it, well, he definitely win the Southern States, which
Speaker 1: actually checks out. Jim Caldwell made a funny. You know,
Speaker 1: Cooter is doing something right. When he makes Caldwell funny,
Speaker 1: he would immediately become the best presidential candidate West Coast political.
Speaker 1: But actually you want to hear you know, if you
Speaker 1: want to be serious about it, the Cooter he's only
Speaker 1: thirty two years old, not even eligible to be a
Speaker 1: president until well, he needs to accrue more knowledge about
Speaker 1: our nation. Gotta be at least thirty five year old
Speaker 1: overseas listeners uh to be the president anyway. So the
Speaker 1: Lions are one in one, but they're fun one in one.
Speaker 1: Everybody's excited a Mira Abdula for the year with or
Speaker 1: on two I r with a foot injury, which sucks.
Speaker 1: We don't know if we're gonna see him again. But
Speaker 1: so they're missing that running back and as a playmaker,
Speaker 1: but they still have Matthew Stafford and a high octane
Speaker 1: passing game. They had to Green Bay Greg Rosenthal to
Speaker 1: face the Packers, who have not been themselves in the
Speaker 1: number of This is the stat of the week that
Speaker 1: everyone is saying over and over again, Aaron Rodgers, the
Speaker 1: best quarterback on the planet, or so we think, has
Speaker 1: not had a one hundred passing rating game, uh in
Speaker 1: fourteen games. I thought you were gonna try it out.
Speaker 1: The I've seen as a meme a lot of Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers versus Blaine Gabber over the last sixteen games or
Speaker 1: ten games. And there you guys are like, you know,
Speaker 1: official meme. So you know what, that's all gonna come
Speaker 1: crashing down this week because if the Packers can't get
Speaker 1: healthy at home against this lousy Lions defense who's missing
Speaker 1: a ton of players, it's never gonna happen. But the
Speaker 1: Packers players I could, but it's not an option there too.
Speaker 1: They're too easy of of a pick this week. The
Speaker 1: Lions haven't had Ziggyanza at practice. They missed him all
Speaker 1: of last week. DeAndre Levy, who knows if he's gonna
Speaker 1: play again. They've got some depth issues at linebacker. They're
Speaker 1: trotting out guys like Kyle van Noy who hasn't really
Speaker 1: played for them, Wallace Gilberry plane starter Snaps Copeland, Tavon Wilson,
Speaker 1: who was like the eighth safety for the Patriots is
Speaker 1: now a playing starter. Step This is a talent poor
Speaker 1: defense that I think they coach up pretty well with
Speaker 1: Tara Austin, But the Packers players are just so much better.
Speaker 1: They should get healthy. It's a shame for the lines
Speaker 1: because after the first week they look like a team
Speaker 1: that could be kind of frisky this year. And then,
Speaker 1: like you say, you lose As and Levy, they're two
Speaker 1: best players, and and they don't have a lot of
Speaker 1: guy you mentioned Carry Hyder, who we've we've kind of
Speaker 1: enjoyed watching an undrafted rookie who's played about as well
Speaker 1: as any defensive player in the snaps that that he's played.
Speaker 1: I think they still could be fun to watch though,
Speaker 1: because Marvin Jones and Matt I think Matthew Staffords played
Speaker 1: two really good games. I know it didn't quite show
Speaker 1: up in the in the stats last week, but I
Speaker 1: think he's looking good. That you mentioned Rogers and his numbers,
Speaker 1: and everyone's talking about this all week long, but it
Speaker 1: has a lot to do as we've talked about for
Speaker 1: over a season, with what's been around him on offense.
Speaker 1: I'm not ready with this. Aaron Rodgers is no longer
Speaker 1: He's overrated at this point. Give me a break. I mean,
Speaker 1: can I just say something because that I read a
Speaker 1: piece and on the Ringer Danny Kelly, I believe it
Speaker 1: was where he made that same point, this idea that
Speaker 1: Rogers has had his weapons stripped away, and I get it.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's not as good offense as it was in
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven when of the m v P, or
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago when he wanted again. But
Speaker 1: there's still weapons on this team. I mean, Jordy Nelson,
Speaker 1: even if not is a guy that a lot of
Speaker 1: teams would love to have. Randall Cobb is a guy
Speaker 1: a lot of teams would love to have. Uh, the
Speaker 1: Eddie Lacy, even if we don't think he's fully Eddy Lacy,
Speaker 1: there are weapons here and an offensive line that can block.
Speaker 1: I mean, we're always a little bit. I think we are.
Speaker 1: The offensive line has played great this year. I think
Speaker 1: we're letting Mike McCarthy off the hook and that that
Speaker 1: has been a popular topic in Green Bay this week.
Speaker 1: They had four straight drives last week where they didn't
Speaker 1: change the personnel once, not the formations that personnel. Everything
Speaker 1: is lining up the same. They basically run out the
Speaker 1: same exact guys for seventy plus percent of their snaps,
Speaker 1: the same exact formation, the same exact lineup. And it's
Speaker 1: like they've been running that offense for too long and
Speaker 1: you always got to evolve. And I think there's a
Speaker 1: question of whether that Mike McCarthy, so you think teams
Speaker 1: are legitimately from a strategy angle catching up or have
Speaker 1: caught up to the Packers. Well, he's averaged six point
Speaker 1: five yards per tempt for the last year, So yes,
Speaker 1: everyone's looking for an explanation. They run an is isolation
Speaker 1: route offense, which means the receivers are isolated against defensive backs,
Speaker 1: and receivers can't win those battles because they don't separate. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's move on, gentlemen. The Baltimore Ravens are two and oh.
Speaker 1: You can argue they're the worst two and o team
Speaker 1: right now. Uh. They got by the Bills at home
Speaker 1: in the Week one and then basically stole one from
Speaker 1: the Browns. Uh. You give him credit for coming back
Speaker 1: from twenty nothing, but still, h they're very lucky, lucky
Speaker 1: to be undefeated at this point and they head to Jacksonville. Mark,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what the Jaguars their seasons on the line. Here,
Speaker 1: they're in their building against the two and O team
Speaker 1: that's really uh two and oh, but not a powerhouse
Speaker 1: in this league. You better win this game. Mark the
Speaker 1: Jacks cannot fall flat for a third straight week. Well,
Speaker 1: you know, I think what we've talked about with the
Speaker 1: Jaguars all along is that this extra season that this
Speaker 1: regime got was based on the idea of it is
Speaker 1: time to you know, turn on the engine and show
Speaker 1: Caldwell has drafted very good players, players with a lot
Speaker 1: of potential. It falls on it here, That's what we're hearing.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it falls on Gus Bradley to to
Speaker 1: go out and produce a game where the coach obviously
Speaker 1: had a massively positive impact. And I don't have a
Speaker 1: problem with Baltimore winning some ugly games early in the year,
Speaker 1: but Jacksonville absolutely needs to take this thing. And it's like,
Speaker 1: even by shows some of the elements that you were
Speaker 1: last season, the offense last week totally Allen Robinson taken
Speaker 1: out of that game. What happened to the Allen Robinson
Speaker 1: that we saw even during the preseason. He's got to
Speaker 1: show up against balt Moore's defense, and if you look
Speaker 1: at what Cleveland did and I realized that was a
Speaker 1: class a ridiculous loss for the Browns. But for a
Speaker 1: period of time and even late in the game when
Speaker 1: Josh McCown was hurt, he was still picking up big
Speaker 1: chunks of real estate throwing the ball down field. That's
Speaker 1: what the Jaguars like to do. So I think this
Speaker 1: is maybe a good matchup for the Jaguars to get
Speaker 1: back on track. We've been strong, We're just playing by
Speaker 1: the rules whatever. Lady Eric Wettle has played well, Charise
Speaker 1: Wright has played really well in run support. But you're
Speaker 1: right the Browns Corey Coleman got healthy against against the
Speaker 1: Ravens defensive backs and Alan Robinson, who has not played
Speaker 1: well this year. He's also played a couple of good cornerbacks,
Speaker 1: but he's got to get healthy against Jimmy Smith. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't seem like in Week one. I thought he
Speaker 1: was particularly different than normal. But talking about the importance
Speaker 1: of this game, Dan, you know, one of their beat
Speaker 1: writers thought it, this is the biggest game of this
Speaker 1: regime's tenure, which that makes sense, but you think about it,
Speaker 1: not only not only do they need to avoid o
Speaker 1: in three. They're going to London next week, which is
Speaker 1: supposed to be one of their home games. They do
Speaker 1: it every year. Do you want to be going there again?
Speaker 1: Now it's for the fourth or fifth straight year. You're
Speaker 1: going there? Oh and three? Uh, you failed to build
Speaker 1: up any excitement. And when you talked about Gus Bradley
Speaker 1: needs to make a statement that really resonated because this
Speaker 1: is a guy. Last week they were pushed around. I
Speaker 1: mean they were dominated physically on both sides of the ball,
Speaker 1: especially on their defensive side. I mean San Diego just
Speaker 1: mauled them. The lane that Danny Woodhead it's a mall
Speaker 1: type of show. That lanes that Danny Woodhead and Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon had to run through were unbelievable. And this and
Speaker 1: they're missing players this week. I think they're missing two
Speaker 1: of their three top cornerbacks. They're missing Kelvin Beacham, They're
Speaker 1: missing Jet Jared Odrick. This is a banged up Jaguars
Speaker 1: team right now. Well, you mentioned that the general manager
Speaker 1: has done a good job of acquiring talent, and Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey looks like the real deal. Yes, But the other
Speaker 1: guy they drafted who was built as a top five
Speaker 1: talent Miles Jack has played sixteen snaps this year over
Speaker 1: two games, so he's not even really playing. And the
Speaker 1: one thing I I understand the concept of more patients
Speaker 1: with the Jaguars infuriates people at this point. But you
Speaker 1: are talking about a very young defense with a lot
Speaker 1: of first and second year players who have played together
Speaker 1: for a hundred and twenty minutes, and then there's players
Speaker 1: like Jack that have even less snaps. So it is
Speaker 1: a little bit ridiculous to ask that defense to completely mesh,
Speaker 1: but you don't want to give up thirty one point.
Speaker 1: I think what happened last week is the reverse of
Speaker 1: Week one, when we came out saying, listen, you showed
Speaker 1: up against the Packers and that was progress in its
Speaker 1: own right. Everything that happened in week one got dashed
Speaker 1: last Sunday. Here's the thing. Their offense has had two
Speaker 1: pretty lack lust their games. Blake Bordles mimed receivers last week.
Speaker 1: His his clock management and like all the intangible types
Speaker 1: of things that we talk about, Carson Wentz like, you
Speaker 1: don't see that with Blake Bortles. He makes some mental errors.
Speaker 1: Can I say the streets are talking streets talking about
Speaker 1: Blake Bords. What are the streets saying? Streets is saying,
Speaker 1: what's going on with this guy? Is this guy you
Speaker 1: know what the Jaguars think he is because he's been
Speaker 1: again they're getting blown out early in these games. The
Speaker 1: streets say he can only move the offense when it's
Speaker 1: garbage time. Like I remembering the podcast, it sounds like
Speaker 1: the streets know what their streets means. That's that's the
Speaker 1: buzz up people are at their time. Also an underrated
Speaker 1: unders also a British rapper, right underrated early two thousands
Speaker 1: British rapper. Remember you remember you? Uh you were getting
Speaker 1: crazy at the end of the first half of that
Speaker 1: Jaguars game. What the heck happened to them last week?
Speaker 1: And they didn't know what to do? That to me
Speaker 1: was borders in a nutshell right now, taking a sack
Speaker 1: when they absolutely couldn't take one, not being kind of aware,
Speaker 1: and then the coaching staff sort of just giving up
Speaker 1: on the half after that point, well and then the
Speaker 1: past with time running out, you throw a pass, you know,
Speaker 1: backwards basically instead of ramping it downfield. I think the
Speaker 1: Jaguars bounced back though that they get a win better.
Speaker 1: Moving on well, speaking of geez al right, so the
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns are own too, And a quick rundown here
Speaker 1: of what's happened to the Browns in the past fifteen days.
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz beat the Browns. R. G three heard his shoulder,
Speaker 1: went to I R. Josh McCown heard his shoulder. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's out for weeks. Carson Wentz beat the Bears, people
Speaker 1: saying he's an offensive Brookie of your favorite. Big Ben
Speaker 1: says he's surprised the Browns passed on Carson Wentz. Josh
Speaker 1: Gordon got a rest warrant issue, although that was cleared.
Speaker 1: Corey Colman broke his hand in practice, Carl Nassa broke
Speaker 1: his hand. Carl Cameron Irving was raised to the hospital
Speaker 1: with a bruise lung. And yes, the Browns blue at
Speaker 1: twenty point lead in Week two. I have exclusive mark
Speaker 1: Um footage or audio reel of an official front office
Speaker 1: official with the Browns speaking with the football gods. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is really good stuff here. It only here on
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast. Oh oh boy. It raises
Speaker 1: on this metaphysical clash between Cleveland and the people upstairs.
Speaker 1: What's going on Mark, where's your head at? I know
Speaker 1: it was a um A tough couple of days for you,
Speaker 1: and you floated away on Twitter a couple of days
Speaker 1: this week and everyone gets it. Yeah. I feel kind
Speaker 1: of just in a weird place as a human being
Speaker 1: for multiple reasons. But the Brown situation not really helping.
Speaker 1: Um I I the only thing right now that I
Speaker 1: think that Browns fans can look at. Not the only thing,
Speaker 1: but it's the Hugh Jackson. Uh, We've seen so many
Speaker 1: coaches here that he came out today and he said,
Speaker 1: if you think that I'm gonna let this make me
Speaker 1: panic and I'm gonna go crazy and set that kind
Speaker 1: of example for the for the locker room, you forget
Speaker 1: about it. He's like, I've been here before. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna get freaked out by injured players, and look at
Speaker 1: that's gonna be tested further and further. But I do
Speaker 1: think that inside the organization, I want to think that
Speaker 1: they are there's a resolve to just see see this through,
Speaker 1: that it's not just blow everything up after this season,
Speaker 1: and that's the hope. Well, he talks a good game,
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson. He does when some people don't buy into
Speaker 1: you think it might just be all talk or this
Speaker 1: is a guy drafts Cody Kessler and after the draft
Speaker 1: he says, you've got to trust me on this one.
Speaker 1: Then we watch Carson Wentz have two very impressive games
Speaker 1: and it looks like Cody Kessler isn't ready to play.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I trust Hugh Jackson. Well, we're
Speaker 1: gonna see Cody Kessler against the Dolphins on Sunday. And
Speaker 1: you talked about teams that are desperate. The Dolphins lost
Speaker 1: the heartbreaker to Seattle on the road in Week one,
Speaker 1: and then the score doesn't look that way, but they
Speaker 1: got their doors blown off by the Pats with Garoppolo
Speaker 1: uh and Jake brisket Uh. Jake brisket I said, wherever
Speaker 1: you get the chance, slice Jake Briskey. So what are
Speaker 1: you gonna do? You gotta win if you're Miami. So
Speaker 1: the Browns are in a tough spot here because whenever
Speaker 1: you're on the road in Week three against an ode
Speaker 1: and two team that's not dreadful, which I don't think
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are dreadful, it's gonna be that's a tough
Speaker 1: hill to climb. Well, one point, I would love Alex
Speaker 1: for Gola downstairs to just read audio books to me
Speaker 1: for years on an end that voice. Uh, but yeah,
Speaker 1: if you talked about we just talked about another Florida
Speaker 1: teen that had a must win scenario here in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: But if Miami ever lost a game with Code Kessler,
Speaker 1: who looked terrified during portions of the sideline. Uh, you
Speaker 1: know when they photographed him on the sideline last week?
Speaker 1: What is happening in Miami? If you can't take care
Speaker 1: of the Browns, they have to and they will. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they need to. They're gonna be without Arian Foster. Their
Speaker 1: offense needs to show something this week. You would think
Speaker 1: that their defense could mostly control Cody Kessler. Pit is
Speaker 1: going to be thrown chairs. That doesn't happen. Pit You
Speaker 1: think he's got to be an up start in the
Speaker 1: in the press box, Well, he's in the front office
Speaker 1: of the Dolphins. Who's not in the front I don't
Speaker 1: think pit Ball is really in there. It just seems
Speaker 1: like he should be. He was scout. He's too busy
Speaker 1: closing out every nationally televised like fireworks show. Very busy guy.
Speaker 1: What do the Browns are running out of reasons for hope?
Speaker 1: This season? They're mowing them down one by one. Corey
Speaker 1: Coleman to me, was reason number one and Carl Nassa
Speaker 1: was reason number two. Yeah, well, well look at you
Speaker 1: and say, I'm not again not trying to keep me.
Speaker 1: I'm not making excuses for the Browns. But for the
Speaker 1: first time in a while, it's like you drafted two
Speaker 1: good players, So that's progress. But then if they're not
Speaker 1: on the field. The unfield thing this year you're in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: it's almost not at Hey, let's look at the when
Speaker 1: the w n L. Each week, you're gonna lose a
Speaker 1: ton of games. I think Q That's why I think
Speaker 1: you is the right guy, because I think this is
Speaker 1: a different sort of situation where it's almost like a
Speaker 1: college team that you're trying to rebuild the program and
Speaker 1: that endless almost I don't know what the naive positivity
Speaker 1: is your best hope at getting you through the tough
Speaker 1: times and getting you to the next part. Means nothing
Speaker 1: if you decide that Cody Keussler is the guy you'd
Speaker 1: rather have instead of Carson Wentz. To West's point, they're
Speaker 1: under a ton of pressure, like we talked about earlier
Speaker 1: this week, because of every Brown's loss. You've also have
Speaker 1: to the other side. The coin is Carson Wentz destroying
Speaker 1: teams on national television. It does not. It's not a
Speaker 1: good optical look. All right, Let's move on, guys in
Speaker 1: NFC East matchup the Washington Redskins. Oh it to house
Speaker 1: is on fire. Um, I you know, Jake Ruden. I
Speaker 1: don't know if Jake Rudon's gonna have a job attended.
Speaker 1: I got a feeling if things go really luckily, there
Speaker 1: could be. Yeah, a little bit of a hot butt.
Speaker 1: Sit just took them from last year. I'm saying anybody
Speaker 1: could have taken any team in the NFC East from
Speaker 1: worst to first. Tell that to Tom Coughlin. I'm just
Speaker 1: saying that ownership there, that ownership there, you never know.
Speaker 1: And uh, Jake Ruden had this to say, by the way,
Speaker 1: because they're, you know, the streets talking about uh Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 1: Of course, Marry Chatty Keenan Robinson, a Giants linebacker who
Speaker 1: spent four years in Washington, said that that's what happens
Speaker 1: down there. People point fingers, and Jake Gruden said this,
Speaker 1: We're all competitors. Nobody likes to lose. So there's gonna
Speaker 1: be some grumblings. I can't make sixty three guys and
Speaker 1: twenty coaches happy very day. We're not all going to
Speaker 1: be smiling, singing happy do la or whatever the heck.
Speaker 1: That's I think he meant happy do la, happy dude
Speaker 1: that day. Zip zippity do zippity dude. It's probably where
Speaker 1: he's trying to go. It doesn't sound any they like it.
Speaker 1: I think that's what he's saying. I think you've diagnosed that.
Speaker 1: I googled what he said and there was no results.
Speaker 1: Happ be do lah happy day. Another Redskin season going
Speaker 1: down in playing well, we just talked about Hugh Jackson
Speaker 1: going to take a shot if he's married to the
Speaker 1: wrong quarterback. This is the coach and look at he
Speaker 1: made the right choice about r G three, but he
Speaker 1: couldn't have been more pro Kirk Cousins during that's That
Speaker 1: was the first, you know, move of his tenure. And
Speaker 1: now you're tied to that, and I, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure that that's looking too good at I don't know,
Speaker 1: he he kind of buried. He has his little ways
Speaker 1: of Yeah. I think this is just what the Grutens
Speaker 1: are like. They're they're gonna take shots at their own players.
Speaker 1: He did it coming out a halftime, a little bit
Speaker 1: about cousins, and that's why some players get tired of
Speaker 1: playing of it. I mean, the Grudens run through quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: They are at the meadow Lands this week against the Giants.
Speaker 1: Uh oh, and two week is always own. Two against
Speaker 1: two and a week is always interesting to me, especially
Speaker 1: in this case where I think the Giants are a
Speaker 1: lot better than than the Redskins. I think they've shown
Speaker 1: that their defense looks a lot better. But you know, cosmically,
Speaker 1: the Giants could lose the game and be okay. The
Speaker 1: Redskins got some desperation going on. I could absolutely see
Speaker 1: Washington going up there and getting their first win rather
Speaker 1: than falling to OWN three. And then both teams are
Speaker 1: kind of an okay place. I see that playing out.
Speaker 1: I have to disagree with you, which, much to West's dismay,
Speaker 1: is why I made the New York Giants my lock
Speaker 1: of the week. Whoa, and that's your concerned Giants fins. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Why you're that certain that the Redskins are gonna start
Speaker 1: owing three? Wow? I am that certain that the Giants
Speaker 1: at home with a better team and some interesting young
Speaker 1: things happening in their wide receiving corps. You know, you
Speaker 1: basically have two receivers that you didn't have last year
Speaker 1: along with Odell Beckham. Yes, they're gonna win this game.
Speaker 1: I want to see the Giants play a real defense.
Speaker 1: They haven't yet. They've probably played the two worst if
Speaker 1: you could pick the two worst pass rushing teams in
Speaker 1: the entire NFL. That's who they've played in back to
Speaker 1: back weeks. And pay elis another one in here. But
Speaker 1: that's the problem. They're not playing a real defense this year.
Speaker 1: He played this week either. Well, let's talk about the
Speaker 1: Giants defense, because I think they're for real when I
Speaker 1: watched Game re one. They fly to the ball, their
Speaker 1: physical landing. Collins is playing with authority in that back.
Speaker 1: In that back, he's controlling the line of scrimmage from
Speaker 1: the safety position. I love everything I'm seeing from the Giants.
Speaker 1: Eli Apple looks like a nice addition. DRC has sneaky
Speaker 1: been a great free agent pick up for them for
Speaker 1: a couple of years. Now. He's on a better defense.
Speaker 1: What's crazy? Jonathan Cassius bizarrely is playing fantastic. He's a
Speaker 1: defensive what's amazing and should the Giant should be excited about.
Speaker 1: They haven't even rushed the passer very well yet. I
Speaker 1: would say they've been sub average in terms of rushing
Speaker 1: the passer. But they're so tough and their secondary's been
Speaker 1: so good it hasn't matter. Jerry Reese is flying again.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say Jerry Reese was under a lot
Speaker 1: of fire and did kind of the what a lot
Speaker 1: of times is the desperation move was we throw a
Speaker 1: ton of money out and try to save your own
Speaker 1: job and get the team better at the same time.
Speaker 1: It's working so far, so that will be a fun
Speaker 1: game to track on Sunday. Boys, Let's move on the
Speaker 1: final one PM game the Arizona Cardinals, who got healthy
Speaker 1: and week two blowout victory over I forgot who they
Speaker 1: kill the Bucks? Right? Oh sorry, Greg, didn't need to
Speaker 1: bring up bad memories. You have like seventy sandwiches tied
Speaker 1: into that. You know, you got you gotta just you
Speaker 1: gotta move past. That's what the bad teams do. They
Speaker 1: let it bother them. The Bucks have moved on. We're
Speaker 1: gonna own this. He so the Cardinals now the bill
Speaker 1: schedules not easy, everybody and they see he's got a
Speaker 1: bad schedule. But now the Buffalo Bills uh and and
Speaker 1: deep trouble at owned two and just canned their offensive
Speaker 1: coordinator for some reason, now have to fight off of
Speaker 1: the Cardinals West Uh. We talked about, you know, Rex,
Speaker 1: his teams usually do better when their backs are against
Speaker 1: the wall. If there was ever a time oh and
Speaker 1: three and death, if you lose at home and they're
Speaker 1: gonna put a fight here, I don't know if they are.
Speaker 1: And I think what we're gonna see is there's a
Speaker 1: possibility we're gonna see whatever the record is for fewest
Speaker 1: pass attempts by Rex Ryan quarterback in a game might
Speaker 1: be coming up. He said that Sammy Watkins, it's still
Speaker 1: up in the air. He might not play. It sounds
Speaker 1: like he's not playing, hasn't practiced. So you're gonna have
Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson a race Robert Woods, and then you're left
Speaker 1: the throat of Greg Salis. I don't know how the
Speaker 1: Bills are gonna move the ball through the air. And
Speaker 1: they promoted a guy to offensive coordinator, Anthony Lynn, who
Speaker 1: has a pure running game background, and they keep talking
Speaker 1: that day where they fired Rome and Rex talked about
Speaker 1: I want to let Tyrod show off his skills, his
Speaker 1: skill set and his special talent. And all I thought
Speaker 1: is he wants to run the Tim Tebow offense with
Speaker 1: the Jets that he always dreamed of it well and
Speaker 1: that works so well. One reason that Rex Ryan hasn't
Speaker 1: had a winning season in about half a decade. And listen,
Speaker 1: you have the Patriots coming up after this game. You're
Speaker 1: looking at Owen four. And then if you ever went
Speaker 1: to l A and lost to the Rams and your
Speaker 1: own five, I don't want to know what that would
Speaker 1: do to Rex Ryan's tenure in Buffalo. That could be
Speaker 1: the end. I think you'll get a good effort out
Speaker 1: of this Bill's team this week. I don't doesn't mean
Speaker 1: any think how close are we know to some of
Speaker 1: the grumbling that we heard last year. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just this feels like this is a locker room that
Speaker 1: showed last year they couldn't keep it to It's like
Speaker 1: it's November that they're fired righting their coordinator and making
Speaker 1: these panic moves. Would you like the answer by the
Speaker 1: way of the fewest past attempt because it's gonna be
Speaker 1: pretty hard to beat. It wasn't it that that game
Speaker 1: two years ago when he wouldn't let Gino Smith Monday
Speaker 1: Night Football, December first, two thousand fourteen. Gino so the
Speaker 1: sixteen thirteen loss UH for a four and twelve Jet
Speaker 1: team seven of thirteen for sixty five yards and a pick.
Speaker 1: They ran the ball forty nine times or two d
Speaker 1: and seventy seven yards and law. So, I mean, that
Speaker 1: would be pretty amazing if he approached that. But I
Speaker 1: believe Danna we watched that game at a local tavern
Speaker 1: and had to order an extra pitch or two to
Speaker 1: deal with that. I was in the office, actually, I
Speaker 1: remember that one. That was a rough one to watch.
Speaker 1: I was definitely I was definitely still at a local tavern.
Speaker 1: I'm still ordered with me stored or several pictures. I
Speaker 1: don't waiting for you. You were there, all right? Anything
Speaker 1: I'll say on that game, boy, definitely not. The San
Speaker 1: Francisco forty Niners are one in one, and now they
Speaker 1: have to travel to Seattle. We are also one and one,
Speaker 1: and usually I would say, oh, this will be a
Speaker 1: wipe out, But I just haven't seen enough mark from
Speaker 1: the Seahawks to say that they're just gonna easily take
Speaker 1: care of business until I actually see them easily take
Speaker 1: care of business. I you know, maybe it's just what
Speaker 1: we've seen with Seattle year of the year. They they
Speaker 1: do start slow occasionally. And I'm not going to press
Speaker 1: the panic button on this club. This is the team
Speaker 1: that in the preseason and throughoute uh you know, the summer,
Speaker 1: talked about feeling that they had that same type of
Speaker 1: Super Bowl field that they did before. And I just
Speaker 1: think they're a very resilient team under Carol and you're
Speaker 1: getting a San Francisco team that will not be able
Speaker 1: to hang with Seattle on Sunday. Well, their defense, Seattle's
Speaker 1: defense looks like the best defense in the league. To me,
Speaker 1: I expected them to be the best fence in the
Speaker 1: league going into the season if I had to choose one.
Speaker 1: And they've given up nineteen points in two weeks and
Speaker 1: I don't have also played two pretty fair, but they're
Speaker 1: playing maybe even even worse one this week. There's no
Speaker 1: reason for me to believe that Blaine Gabbard in the
Speaker 1: Forts offense will get into double digits in terms of points.
Speaker 1: So that's why he can't be too What they need
Speaker 1: to work out is on offense. Yeah, Well, the first
Speaker 1: of all that they have to realize that Kristin Michael
Speaker 1: is running a lot better than Thomas Rawls. Right he woke,
Speaker 1: You need to feed Kristin Michael. And Pete Carroll said
Speaker 1: this week he looks like he's shot out of a
Speaker 1: can and something that we said when we saw him
Speaker 1: in the preseason. If that's the case, saddle him up
Speaker 1: right him. Don't you think that the injured the injuries
Speaker 1: in that backfield. This is probably the best thing that
Speaker 1: could happen to Michael because I just feel like he's
Speaker 1: a flow runner. You gotta give him work every quarter.
Speaker 1: You can't pull him out of line up and and
Speaker 1: give him half the carries. He's gonna thrive in this situation.
Speaker 1: Not only the best thing for Michael, but if they
Speaker 1: let him play, it will be the best thing for
Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks, and and the best thing for Thomas
Speaker 1: Ross to sit out a couple of weeks. It's not
Speaker 1: like we think Thomas Rawls is done as a quality player.
Speaker 1: I'm not ready right now. I mean he was fantastic
Speaker 1: and yeah, why why use him in a game against
Speaker 1: the forty niners? There any game really this early in
Speaker 1: the season. They're better than a man do they need
Speaker 1: to go out and trade for Joe Thomas, Well, I
Speaker 1: think it talking about like that, that is very possible.
Speaker 1: They've shown no hesitation about giving up first round draft picks.
Speaker 1: That's how been now. And they like be a solid
Speaker 1: for Joe Thomas too. Super Bowl with Gary gilliam at
Speaker 1: left tackles soul or whatever, Well, we saw that line
Speaker 1: getting massacred against the Rams last week. So that's a
Speaker 1: tough tough draw. Yes, it is. But you're gonna face
Speaker 1: teams like that if you want to get in deep.
Speaker 1: Virginia's forty niners team has played it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess the low expectations thing. But they're playing hard.
Speaker 1: And you watch the Panthers game. They were competitive in
Speaker 1: that game. They they've been playing hard for old Chip
Speaker 1: Chipper team and we two playing hard. I expect that.
Speaker 1: I expect that. That's all. When do you think the
Speaker 1: wheels start give a lollipop for playing hard? I'm saying
Speaker 1: it's not the most talented roster and they're out there
Speaker 1: or they're flying around. I would have liked to see
Speaker 1: that from the Jaguars last week. Everyone, you know, Dan
Speaker 1: not handing out lollipops. Can't give him a lollipop. They
Speaker 1: only eat specially designed smoothies. I'm in on the smoothies
Speaker 1: west Is. People might be surprised to know that every
Speaker 1: morning west walks down the street from the office, gets
Speaker 1: a purple smoothie, sucks it down, protein smoothie. It's delicious.
Speaker 1: It's glorious to be around. Moving on, the Los Angeles
Speaker 1: Rams head to Tampa Bay to face the Bucks to
Speaker 1: one and one teams, and uh, you know what am
Speaker 1: I gonna do? I get excited about this game. I'm
Speaker 1: not going to the Ramps have nine points the entire season.
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley the only thing I get excited about on
Speaker 1: the Rams can't run because his offensive line, can't make
Speaker 1: holes because they can't pass, and case Keenum still involved
Speaker 1: my ur own, get me away from that. On the
Speaker 1: Buck side, all right, there's a little bit of excitement. Greg.
Speaker 1: You got Jamis Winston, and you got some nice playmakers
Speaker 1: and some guys in d but too was exciting for you.
Speaker 1: Week two was grotesque. You're gonna have some stinkers, but
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston has too many of them. If you look
Speaker 1: at what he did last year, he had about five
Speaker 1: games where he just absolutely collapsed and gave his team
Speaker 1: no chance to win. And if you've got to take
Speaker 1: that next step, like I expect him to do, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to cut that down to about Okay, you
Speaker 1: had your one last week and that's it. And this
Speaker 1: matchup to me, is tougher than than the match up
Speaker 1: against Arizona. It's similar. It's it's not a road game,
Speaker 1: so that that helps. But this Rams front seven they're
Speaker 1: gonna get after Jamis Winston. He just has to not
Speaker 1: turn the ball over and you should be able to
Speaker 1: beat the Rams. Well. I think Mike Evans is going
Speaker 1: to find it a lot easier to operate against the
Speaker 1: Rams cornerbacks than he did against Patrick Peterson. And and
Speaker 1: that's the matchup because I think Mike Evans is in
Speaker 1: from monster year. I agree, he looks really good so far.
Speaker 1: The weirdest story of the month to me is the
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher contract extension that's floating around in the ether.
Speaker 1: Uh Is it is it too crazy to think that
Speaker 1: they were kind of crowdsource sing that checking the court
Speaker 1: of public opinions, It is certainly not too crazy. Now
Speaker 1: you know the fact that it's been in the news
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, but it has not happened yet.
Speaker 1: It just seems kind of weird they would bother me
Speaker 1: that they would need to crowdsources. Absolutely, that sort of
Speaker 1: thing happens, though with coach and GM extensions. Sometimes they
Speaker 1: don't get reported for six months or you'll hear that, Oh,
Speaker 1: John Schneider, by the way, that's the wrong example. But
Speaker 1: there was someone last year. We didn't even know about
Speaker 1: it for five months. And I bet it's done. I
Speaker 1: bet that it's agreed to. Whatever it is they're afraid
Speaker 1: to announce. I don't know why they won't announce it, Gregory.
Speaker 1: It just beat the Seattle Seahawks, all of our choice
Speaker 1: as the number one team in the late Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: they're waiting for the Ramps to score touchdown this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be good because by the end of the year,
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher will be the losing his coach in NFL history.
Speaker 1: Because Tavon Austin was just given a major contract and
Speaker 1: how many targets does that targets for sixty three yards
Speaker 1: so far, It's like they're trying to earn that money.
Speaker 1: Here's what concerned to see about the Bucks this week.
Speaker 1: You just saw what the Rams did to Seattle's ground
Speaker 1: game in the first half last week, fourteen yards, fourteen
Speaker 1: carries for fourteen yards before Michael heated up a little
Speaker 1: bit in the second half. You don't have Doug Martin,
Speaker 1: and we saw that without Doug Martin last week that
Speaker 1: Bucks offense. He is the fundamental core of that offense.
Speaker 1: And although we can talk about how they have a
Speaker 1: one two punch, that's the number two punch is not
Speaker 1: the same type of running back is Doug Martin? Right?
Speaker 1: The number two punch is a passing game guy. Right
Speaker 1: that we're hearing that Jaquiz Rodgers is gonna get a
Speaker 1: lot of work. Give me a break on Jakiss Rogers.
Speaker 1: But he couldn't even make the Bears backfield, which is
Speaker 1: one of the worst in the NFL. I didn't choose
Speaker 1: the Bucks because they're a complete roster. I chose them
Speaker 1: because they're gonna be fun to watch and they're gonna
Speaker 1: withstand some adversity like losing Doug Martin this Sunday. They
Speaker 1: made the Cardinals fun to watch last week. Thank you, Greg.
Speaker 1: I'm responsible on the San Diego Chargers. The Superchargers are
Speaker 1: one and one and they are traveling down to Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: Here we are again a despiration Oh and two team. Uh,
Speaker 1: the Colts, who absolutely have to win a game in
Speaker 1: their building, no excuse not to beat the Chargers. I'm sorry, Greg,
Speaker 1: I know you love the Charges, and I know they're
Speaker 1: playing great through two weeks despite all these injuries. But
Speaker 1: the Colts, who we all none of us picked the
Speaker 1: Colts be bad this year, right, Nobody said the Cults
Speaker 1: are gonna stink, so you gotta they're gonna be good.
Speaker 1: Not one of us picked him to win the division.
Speaker 1: I think we said they had one of the worst
Speaker 1: rosters in the NFL. But we love Andrew Luck and
Speaker 1: we think he could cover up lemishes. You gotta win
Speaker 1: this game, is what I'm saying to you and to
Speaker 1: the people and people out there in the desert and
Speaker 1: the people that think that Chargers are an underdog in
Speaker 1: this game. Give me a break. They're not an underdog.
Speaker 1: Not only that, they are my lock of the week.
Speaker 1: We put a lock on its you gottamit? The lock
Speaker 1: is this? This doesn't want to do the Lock of
Speaker 1: the week. It's fun. These two teams aren't even come
Speaker 1: back to us. Was I go I go by what
Speaker 1: I see and what I see with the Colts. One
Speaker 1: of the word talented defense is in the league. And
Speaker 1: when I see from the Chargers, they're a team that
Speaker 1: is playing very good football together. I mean, they're fun
Speaker 1: to watch. You continue to associate San Diego with the
Speaker 1: desert I heard that, now, what is going on with
Speaker 1: It's a sea based There are an ocean based team
Speaker 1: talking about desert figures. It's where Spicy lives. A little
Speaker 1: bit of a loose connection. It has to be. This
Speaker 1: is a bad matchup for the Colts. That's what I'm
Speaker 1: saying to. Chargers are significantly more talented team. You could
Speaker 1: take away Woodhead and Keenan Allen, They're still more talented
Speaker 1: and their secondary on defense is their strength. Jason Verrett,
Speaker 1: that will be fine from you. Jason Verrett en route
Speaker 1: to an All Pro season, He's made the leap to
Speaker 1: one of the best cornerbacks in the NFL. And the
Speaker 1: Colts are gonna be without Dante Moncrief. They're gonna have
Speaker 1: to lean awfully heavily on t Y Hilton and Philip
Speaker 1: Doors set their pint size wide right, and they have
Speaker 1: they have no depth After those guys and oh, by
Speaker 1: the way, Brandon Flowers playing pretty well. Casey, hey, we're
Speaker 1: with the picks last week. This is one of the
Speaker 1: best cornerback groups in the league. And Melvin Gordon, Melvin
Speaker 1: Gordon is so much better this year. And he's got
Speaker 1: some mallers in front of them blowing open holes. This
Speaker 1: is a good offensive line. If imagine if Melvin Gordon
Speaker 1: played these two games to start his career, what how
Speaker 1: do he would be talking about completely. He would be
Speaker 1: saying like, who's better, girl or Gordon? Did they make us? Well?
Speaker 1: He looks He looks fantastic to me because he can
Speaker 1: he can run over people inside and he's got the
Speaker 1: strength to go outside. You often find out what running
Speaker 1: backs are right away, unlike other positions. You can get
Speaker 1: a good read. And so it's kind of a jarring
Speaker 1: to have had him go through his first season and
Speaker 1: see what he's doing. Now. He's a big play running
Speaker 1: back and it's it's it's what they were missing in
Speaker 1: the season and what And as far as Spice Reckos,
Speaker 1: who's gonna come back on the show? If Melvin Gordon?
Speaker 1: Maybe when Gordon hits the one thousand yard marker, Danny
Speaker 1: woodheads injury was terrible, but it almost made it a
Speaker 1: lock of right. They lost Brandon all you gotta stay healthy,
Speaker 1: But you're right, like they're gonna have to figure out
Speaker 1: that they didn't really use him when they were in shotgun.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to figure that out because he's not
Speaker 1: gonna leave the field that much. One quick thing. I
Speaker 1: believe you guys are so wrong about this. By the way,
Speaker 1: Well hold on, here's what we are right about we
Speaker 1: I don't think that we've had the Cults buried as
Speaker 1: a team, but not anyone in this room thinks that
Speaker 1: they've been put together. Well they are. It is right.
Speaker 1: I got killed on Twitter for saying that the team
Speaker 1: had regressed under Ryan Griggson. That is exactly what they've done. Well.
Speaker 1: The Colts that their recipe. It wouldn't be a shock
Speaker 1: if they won, and the recipe is Andrew Luck starts
Speaker 1: playing like an m v P, which we thought he
Speaker 1: might be before last Give him some help though you
Speaker 1: got it. But last week and he admitted this. He
Speaker 1: played bad poorly last week. People want to blame it
Speaker 1: on the teammates. He missed a lot of throws early
Speaker 1: in the game that were there when he was protected,
Speaker 1: so he's got to He's gonna light it up for
Speaker 1: on this lousy rafter. Next game, we're going to Arrowhead,
Speaker 1: where my New York Jets at one in one face
Speaker 1: the Chiefs also one in one, and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about desert figures. I feel like this game
Speaker 1: is pretty close to toss up. I think the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Most people will pick the Chiefs to be the favorite
Speaker 1: here because of the home field, but I don't know.
Speaker 1: I thought Alex Smith did not look very good last week,
Speaker 1: and I think the Jets defense once the Jets. The
Speaker 1: biggest problem for the Jets so far is they've given
Speaker 1: up these big chunk plays, and I think that's correctable.
Speaker 1: I think once Vas figures out what's going on with him,
Speaker 1: he's not the same guy anymore. But they're gonna figure
Speaker 1: out how to use them the right way. They'll sort
Speaker 1: those things out. I trust Todd Bowls to do it.
Speaker 1: That's been the only problem for the Jets for me
Speaker 1: through two weeks. So I think they're gonna be competitive
Speaker 1: with just about everyone this season, including an Arrowhead in
Speaker 1: a tough environment. Jets are good team. The Chiefs last
Speaker 1: week could not overcome the fact that they turned the
Speaker 1: ball over three times. You can't do that against the
Speaker 1: Texans defense, and you certainly can't do it against the
Speaker 1: Jets because the Jets offense. You know, I was not
Speaker 1: on Ryan Fitzpatrick's bandwagon and all last season, but I
Speaker 1: think he's looked good this year. Well, he looked good
Speaker 1: on last Thursday. I'll say that the Texans are gonna
Speaker 1: make every quarterback they play at home. Yeah, Alex smit
Speaker 1: that a bad game adjects to me look like a
Speaker 1: better team than they were a year ago. I think
Speaker 1: they're two weeks they've been one of the best teams
Speaker 1: in the league, even though they lost the first game.
Speaker 1: Tough game. I think they a tough game that they
Speaker 1: dominated and should have won. But you got they looked good, Danny,
Speaker 1: don't ever say we don't say something nice about I
Speaker 1: appreciate that you guys have noticed because they had. I'm
Speaker 1: still angry that they blew that Week one game because
Speaker 1: they should be two and oh. And this is and
Speaker 1: as as I said, they have six games that are
Speaker 1: killer games to start the season. Gotta get out of
Speaker 1: it three and three and this is a winnable game.
Speaker 1: I will not be satisfied by them playing the Chiefs tight.
Speaker 1: I think their playoff team, which means, go win this game.
Speaker 1: Your boy Quincy and is good or what he's good?
Speaker 1: What is he? No one knows what he wants? Brandon
Speaker 1: Marshall at this point. Well, Brandon Marshall said this week
Speaker 1: he's got to get back on the field because if
Speaker 1: he doesn't, little Quincy will take his job. I have,
Speaker 1: I have Marshall and my fantasy team decided to pick
Speaker 1: up a noon While as almost like put him together.
Speaker 1: If one's gone the others they This is how much
Speaker 1: the Jets talked noon Up all through the preseason. A
Speaker 1: lot of times when these things happen with any team
Speaker 1: that it's not the real deal, but everyone's staying watch
Speaker 1: out for this guy. He's gonna be a difference maker.
Speaker 1: They have plays in a in an offense that includes
Speaker 1: Matt Forte, Brandon Marshall, and Eric Decker. They have a
Speaker 1: lot of plays that are built around Quincy noon While.
Speaker 1: That's how much they believe in him and his ability.
Speaker 1: And he leads the team and receiving through two weeks.
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure this Chief's defense is is that
Speaker 1: type of matchup right? Now it's it's it's not last year's.
Speaker 1: They haven't down the stretch, they haven't rushed the passer.
Speaker 1: And I don't expect Ryan Fitzpatrick to play like he
Speaker 1: did last week every week because he played like be
Speaker 1: the m v P of the league if he did.
Speaker 1: But again, the reason why Fitzpatrick could have another good
Speaker 1: season is because he's a great match with chan Gailey,
Speaker 1: and he's got weapons, he's got guys to play play with.
Speaker 1: And you throw a noon one there. This this Jets
Speaker 1: team is gonna score. You are right. They need this though,
Speaker 1: because you've got the Seahawks, the Steelers, the Cardinals, and
Speaker 1: the Ravens coming up as your next month of action.
Speaker 1: This is a big week. There's a big game for
Speaker 1: the Jets guy to watch in this game or the
Speaker 1: rest of the year. Tyreek Hill of the Chiefs, this
Speaker 1: guy might be the next great return man in the NFL.
Speaker 1: He Hall like, We'll have to get Keith Hansas on
Speaker 1: the phone too on Sunday and see what he has
Speaker 1: to say about one of the key games of the
Speaker 1: season for Gang Green. Moving on the final four PM game,
Speaker 1: UH is a good one too. Undefeated teams is this
Speaker 1: uh the one of only two two and o two
Speaker 1: and o matchups this week. H Pittsburgh at Philadelphia and
Speaker 1: here you go West. This is exciting because uh, Carson
Speaker 1: wins has all the looks right now of a quarterback
Speaker 1: who the Eagles have hit on. But now now he
Speaker 1: gets a real challenge. Not to the Steelers of the
Speaker 1: Steel Curtain anymore or anything like that, but this is
Speaker 1: a real team where he's gonna have to score some
Speaker 1: points to keep pace. Carson Wentz big challenge here. Let's
Speaker 1: see how good this guy really is. This is the
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Speaker 1: Dr Shoals Mr Flames Chemistry Class. Carson Wentz got to
Speaker 1: face the Browns and Bears, two terrible secondary, two bad teams,
Speaker 1: and now who Now they face a team that is
Speaker 1: being ranked by a lot of people number one on
Speaker 1: power rankings. To Pittsburgh Steelers who played have played pretty
Speaker 1: good defense. Uh. Kirk Cousins and Andy Dalton had posted
Speaker 1: some empty numbers against them, but they have been tough,
Speaker 1: not only shutting down ground games but forcing quarterbacks into mistakes.
Speaker 1: And they've done it without much of a pass rush.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I think they have one sacked
Speaker 1: this year as a team, and they're playing Jarvis Jones
Speaker 1: and James Harrison backing into coverage. They've got, They've got
Speaker 1: their two young rookies in the secondary, both played a
Speaker 1: lot last week andcluding their first round pick. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a conservative defense, and that's the type of thing
Speaker 1: that could could make a rookie make some mistakes. You know,
Speaker 1: just have a lot of guys in coverage and just
Speaker 1: force him to be really patient and not forced the
Speaker 1: ball in there. I love this year's Eagles team, which
Speaker 1: is the exact opposite of what we saw under Chip Kelly,
Speaker 1: generating points using making the most of their opportunities when
Speaker 1: they're getting the red zone. Two. But their defense, which
Speaker 1: I liked Eagles defense, but they have talked about not
Speaker 1: facing the test. You've played the Brown's offense before. They
Speaker 1: kind of got on track for a few minutes against
Speaker 1: the Ravens. That was a terrible game, and then last
Speaker 1: week the Bears offense just a big stink joints. So
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I mean, this is a test. You're getting
Speaker 1: Big Ben, You're getting Antonio Brown. He is gonna have
Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz is gonna have to work to keep
Speaker 1: up the pace in this game. We'll see those Eagles
Speaker 1: cornerbacks on paper don't look like they're great players. And
Speaker 1: this will be a big test for Jim Schwartz, who
Speaker 1: who has become one of the better coordinators in the
Speaker 1: league in general. Yeah, he's always he's always been able
Speaker 1: to do that. And Uh, I wish this game was
Speaker 1: the Sunday night game? Is it too late? It? Can
Speaker 1: we flex? Can we just get the flex going anytime?
Speaker 1: We want to get wild? Roger, if you're listening to
Speaker 1: the show, which I don't imagine you are, but if
Speaker 1: one of your minions are, please let Roger know that
Speaker 1: we want this to be the Sunday Night game and
Speaker 1: not the next game we're gonna talk about. Actually, you
Speaker 1: know what I want to ask? Who wins this game?
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh at Philly around the Horn? Mark Seessler going Steelers, Steelers.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Eagles. Why not home team? Uh? The
Speaker 1: NFC East pick, I'll go Eagles too. We split all right?
Speaker 1: Loves the Link. Sunday Night Football, Ladies and gentlemen, the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears at the Dallas Cowboys and yeah, the Cowboy
Speaker 1: the Bears are own two and a boring oh and
Speaker 1: two somehow I have back to back primetime games. But
Speaker 1: this is a good spot for the Cowboys, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: who uh one point loss in week one and then
Speaker 1: they eked one out in week two to get get even,
Speaker 1: and now they get a chance to get to two
Speaker 1: and one against the Chicago to team that seems like
Speaker 1: a total mess right now. It's a great spot if
Speaker 1: any any team in the league would want to play
Speaker 1: the Bears right now with with the Bears right now
Speaker 1: are a disorganized, identity free mess. And so yeah at
Speaker 1: home where Dallas, where I want to see Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 1: who essentially was benched last week for a pair of fumbles.
Speaker 1: This could be the game where Ezekiel Elliott he wants
Speaker 1: something to like about Sunday night football. We're gonna get
Speaker 1: a good shot to see him chalk of some yardage
Speaker 1: in this game. You should watch Sunday night football. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna quit my job walk down watching in Bullivard, keep
Speaker 1: walking into the ocean if I have to watch that
Speaker 1: sounds attracted to I. I can't sell this game from
Speaker 1: from a Bear's angle. How about Dak Prescott and a
Speaker 1: nash Cowboys players game. It almost I wouldn't say he's
Speaker 1: under the radar because he's the Cowboys quarterback, but a
Speaker 1: rookie fourth round quarterback looking as composed and error free
Speaker 1: and some fancy looking plays last week against the Redskins,
Speaker 1: I mean they got pretty pretty excited. How about a
Speaker 1: little fantasy nightmare for people out there regarding the cow
Speaker 1: Boys offense, a possible running back committee between Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: and Alfred Morris. That happened. It's atastic, it's realistic. If
Speaker 1: he struggles earlier, they're saying that he's rushing his runs. Essentially,
Speaker 1: he's not being patient enough that he was just kind
Speaker 1: of running in there, not waiting for the hole to develop.
Speaker 1: But for all the talk about the Cowboys offensive line,
Speaker 1: it's like they haven't had two good games in particulars.
Speaker 1: I mean, they haven't played pretty well. They start off
Speaker 1: the game well, dictating in both of these weeks, which
Speaker 1: is a good sign for a team run by rookie quarterback,
Speaker 1: and then it kind of goes away. Well, they do
Speaker 1: still have the best left tackle on football. Yeah, moving
Speaker 1: on to Monday Night football, gentlemen, they showdown on the
Speaker 1: NFC South. This used to be you know, around two
Speaker 1: thousand ten, mark like our early tenure at NFL dot com.
Speaker 1: This is one of the matchups of the season at least,
Speaker 1: and then the playoffs, some great playoff game. Now what
Speaker 1: Atlanta at New Orleans shooting about a couple of dome
Speaker 1: teams that in my world this matchup, this is Greg
Speaker 1: Rosenthal special. Take it away, Greg, Okay, alright, let me
Speaker 1: try this again. I don't I don't know where that went.
Speaker 1: But anyway, the Falcons one one, Matt Ryan, looking like
Speaker 1: he's in a full on rejuvenation season mode right now,
Speaker 1: travels to the Superdome to face the Saints. What is
Speaker 1: that a wrong statement that Matt Ryan has looked really
Speaker 1: good through two weeks. Yeah, I don't. I think he's
Speaker 1: about the same if he thought. I think he had
Speaker 1: a good game. He's a little like Eli Manning right now,
Speaker 1: where it's he's less fun to watch, but he's more effective.
Speaker 1: A lot of just dinking dunks, short passes that works.
Speaker 1: There was a bomb to Julio Jones, there was a
Speaker 1: bomb to Uh. They fought to stay in that game anyway.
Speaker 1: So Falcons at Saints NFC South again once again. Mark
Speaker 1: those owe two teams that aren't necessarily terrible at home.
Speaker 1: I like them in these types of games where they
Speaker 1: need to have it, gotta have it, and I think
Speaker 1: they will. I think the Saints take this one. Greg,
Speaker 1: you disagree, No, I don't. And this is an emotional
Speaker 1: game for the Saints. I was wondering why why is
Speaker 1: this on Monday Night Football? And I general, what had
Speaker 1: the schedule? That was a rhetorical question. He's now going
Speaker 1: to lay it. I'm gonna answer if it's the tenure
Speaker 1: anniversary of the return to the Superdome. Of course the
Speaker 1: famous Steve Gleason punt return block. So will hear a
Speaker 1: lot you two Green Day pregame duet that too as well.
Speaker 1: Everyone should see that movie Gleason, by the way, incredible
Speaker 1: when it comes out on Amazon. I think it'll be
Speaker 1: on Amazon Prime fairly soon. This Saints team has not
Speaker 1: been that bad through two weeks. I mean they're they're
Speaker 1: in that middle class of the NFL. They've lost two
Speaker 1: games by a combined four points. I thought their defense
Speaker 1: only giving up nine points to the Giant that was
Speaker 1: that was oppressive. Despite losing p J Williams, who's played
Speaker 1: well at cornerback during that game. Was a great effort.
Speaker 1: But that's all what they're gonna need. Great efforts because
Speaker 1: they're their rosters terrible. I mean, they lost their top
Speaker 1: three cornerbacks now off of what wasn't exactly a loaded defense.
Speaker 1: I thought you can put David Johnson in his own
Speaker 1: tier right now. Among running backs with Adrian Peterson injured
Speaker 1: and levy on Bell suspended, DeVante Freeman was the second
Speaker 1: most impressive running back I saw last week. Looked excellent
Speaker 1: against the Raiders. Quick, decisive, hitting the hole's hard. Uh,
Speaker 1: they need to quit jerking around. I know Tevin Coleman
Speaker 1: has strengths of his own and he's playing well, but
Speaker 1: you gotta let DeVonta Freeman feed that hot hand. This
Speaker 1: I feel like these two teams who are arrivals when
Speaker 1: they play each other, it's all. I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's a lit miss, but it kind of gives you
Speaker 1: an indication where these two seasons are going. In Atlanta
Speaker 1: would love nothing more than to get a road division win,
Speaker 1: especially after they dropped one at home against the Bucks
Speaker 1: and bury their rival Saints oh and three. This would
Speaker 1: tell you a little something about Atlanta if they can
Speaker 1: go into the into New Orleans in a tough in
Speaker 1: this tough spot, and take take this. I hate to
Speaker 1: keep sounding negative about dispatch up, but I don't trust
Speaker 1: either one of these teams. Well don't you trust both
Speaker 1: to score thirty points? Yeah? I mean yeah, that's what's
Speaker 1: text that Saints football give up thirty points, score thirty
Speaker 1: it's Falcons football too, because they absolutely cannot rush the pass. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they for the eighteenth year in a row. Right, dan
Speaker 1: Quinn hasn't turned that. You're again, please and as excited
Speaker 1: as it was about the Saints offense going into the years,
Speaker 1: about this game. This is the opposite of what I
Speaker 1: want to see on Monday Night football. What do you
Speaker 1: mean it's not the best day, it's it's this matchup
Speaker 1: helped provide, uh, one of the great moments in Monday
Speaker 1: night football history. So you're gonna you're gonna honor that
Speaker 1: in your opinion. Please give me a break. Just uh,
Speaker 1: just no more throw us the brand than coleman or
Speaker 1: Willie Kobe Fleaner and key spots. You're only as good
Speaker 1: as your worst key guys, and those two guys are
Speaker 1: killing the Saints offense. Willie Snee didn't practice on Thursday.
Speaker 1: That's something to watch and uh also this is a
Speaker 1: big week. You want something to look forward to mark
Speaker 1: big night for Sean McDonough. Shaky week two. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: anglasing that angle interests me because it is someone that
Speaker 1: is under a lot of pressure. Mike Tarriko, you know,
Speaker 1: left that gig. I think the four of us just
Speaker 1: love the guy and Sean mcdonnalh, you're on the hot suntree.
Speaker 1: I think Sean mcdonah has got He comes from all
Speaker 1: right West. Sean McDonagh comes from a broadcasting family. You
Speaker 1: know he's gonna get it done. I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: give him going to improve Sean mcdonnah two weeks and
Speaker 1: think that's silver spoon out of your mouth and called
Speaker 1: the game nice. I don't think it's a silver spoon scenario.
Speaker 1: You're underselling that family that his brothers in a football
Speaker 1: one brothers in a football front office. The other brother
Speaker 1: is a GM of the sons. That's a football fan
Speaker 1: rooting for Sean. Greg. Let me just clarify, Sean McDonagh
Speaker 1: is an accomplished broadcaster. He's been around forever I'm just
Speaker 1: saying I've noticed a difference in the quality between Mike
Speaker 1: and Sean. Jana said that about anyone. Maybe maybe you've
Speaker 1: got a poster of Tariko above your bed. It's actually
Speaker 1: a shrine in my closet. It's like, honey, we can't
Speaker 1: use this closet for anything else anymore. She's like so
Speaker 1: excited about this entire marriage, Mike Tarico broadcaster, bro get
Speaker 1: on board, Emily, all right, that's it for the to see.
Speaker 1: You call your pregnant wife, Bro, good things she does. Uh.
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