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Speaker 1: Podcast deeply respects the ambition of Trent Richardson. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My
Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by a
Speaker 1: room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Kevin Patra and Greg
Speaker 1: What's up boys? Hey Dan, good West, not bad. I'm
Speaker 1: in the West chair, so I had to on the
Speaker 1: way up the stairs. Today you can actually hear the
Speaker 1: Butterflies and Patris first time in the studio with us
Speaker 1: since it's been remodeled. Big moment your career year It's
Speaker 1: been years. Yeah, so the top one moment in my career. Wow.
Speaker 1: You don't have to you don't have to make him
Speaker 1: feel even more nervous by bringing up the butterflies. I
Speaker 1: mean he looks pretty at ease to me, no pressure, diamonds,
Speaker 1: he cares. I think his his hair beard game is strong.
Speaker 1: That button you've got, you've got a lot of chest hair,
Speaker 1: chest showing. I was told I'm not allow of button
Speaker 1: that button anymore so by who are your woman? That
Speaker 1: is correct? How's that phenomenal? Do you think you're going
Speaker 1: to take that to the house? I think I think
Speaker 1: that's on the We're on the right track right there. See.
Speaker 1: I you hit thirty and you start thinking about things. Wait,
Speaker 1: what do you mean take taking to the house? Like
Speaker 1: go all the way? You know what I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: I think I think he was all the way, not
Speaker 1: the goal, all the way. You're thinking get up to speed, Greg, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on in here. We've we've
Speaker 1: been all the way. If that's any way to see,
Speaker 1: if that's any news to wait a second, let's you know,
Speaker 1: let's close the kimonos here. Mark, you wandered a little
Speaker 1: bit through the forest before you settled down. You settled
Speaker 1: down later in your thirties, and not settled down as
Speaker 1: a person. You're still kind of out there a little bit.
Speaker 1: But in terms of getting married, got married. But once
Speaker 1: you hit thirty as a guy, especially if you're in
Speaker 1: a long term relationship, and especially if she's closing it
Speaker 1: on thirty, you know, sometimes you gotta make a power play.
Speaker 1: And that seems our Patrick's heading right now. My power
Speaker 1: play marrying someone seven years younger than me. That is
Speaker 1: a power play that I didn't control it. That is,
Speaker 1: that's just how the universe had it happened. I like
Speaker 1: a happy Patra and uh, I think he's been a
Speaker 1: happy guy the last six months whatever it's been. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would go crazy happier. I mean, I would say.
Speaker 1: Of his comments on our instant messaging client usually is
Speaker 1: something along lines of you know that guy, or he
Speaker 1: sucks this. Don't like people, don't like the concept of people. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'm generally against human beings, and we wouldn't have it
Speaker 1: any other way. We love. I don't want you to
Speaker 1: go soft. I won't do it. I don't want you
Speaker 1: to go from Jefferson airplane to starship. I don't I hope.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to go soft is not a
Speaker 1: quote that we put on Twitter. Uh. This is the
Speaker 1: Wednesday edition of the Around the NFL podcast. And yes,
Speaker 1: despite that killer West impression. Um, Chris westling off today
Speaker 1: and you know Chris westling off day. Uh, he never
Speaker 1: really gets too far from the old pigskin. Um. He
Speaker 1: was sending me Lamar Miller hype bunny tweets earlier today.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's watching some film. Um So. But West
Speaker 1: will be back on Thursday. Um So Patrick sitting in
Speaker 1: for the rest of the week. And we also have
Speaker 1: to figure out we gotta have a night out with
Speaker 1: Patra he does for what from the beat of the
Speaker 1: Picks Games last year. Oh, we will talk about that
Speaker 1: on tomorrow's show. That's exciting. Now, I'm really excited about
Speaker 1: to mar show. But this show is going to be
Speaker 1: a good one. Pre show grade. I haven't had one
Speaker 1: of these in a while, and I've been thinking a
Speaker 1: lot about the pre show grade actually, guys, because you
Speaker 1: don't want to get stale and oh the same grade
Speaker 1: all the time. Nice bit DN. No, I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: giving a pre show grade that actually is commensurate with
Speaker 1: how good I think the show will be. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna do a hard Knocks report episode two. Hard Knocks.
Speaker 1: You know I love hard knocks, Hard knocks Guy love
Speaker 1: writing about it. We're gonna continue our division preview series.
Speaker 1: A little chunky that series, in my opinion, but I
Speaker 1: enjoyed the football talk here it comes. You know. So
Speaker 1: NFC South not my favorite division. I love the NFC South.
Speaker 1: We know that you do. But yeah, you know, Dan,
Speaker 1: Dan's probably where a lot of fans are. The NFC
Speaker 1: South isn't a cultron of excitement from these people. And
Speaker 1: Patrick's here in the studio and that that that helps,
Speaker 1: that alone is bumping it up a letter grade. Some
Speaker 1: good news. So pre show grade min Okay, we'll try
Speaker 1: to meet that. I have to say, when I heard
Speaker 1: that Patrick was going to be in today, I was
Speaker 1: a little worried from what you guys have said over
Speaker 1: this time I've been here. He is wonderful, of course,
Speaker 1: but what kind of comment is that great? I can
Speaker 1: know you guys know, you know, like you said, like
Speaker 1: he's moody or what not, he has been fantastic because
Speaker 1: I don't think Patrick's moody. I just think he's he's
Speaker 1: at an arresting, um cantankerous places. I will take the
Speaker 1: five minutes that you've spent with him over the four
Speaker 1: years communicating with him that we've had he hasn't. He hasn't. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's not soft like us out here in l A.
Speaker 1: He's just a cold city boy. That's one of Greg's
Speaker 1: you know, long standing bits, is the that l A
Speaker 1: is soft in the red. No, it's not a bit.
Speaker 1: It's unlike not like Martha's vineyard, which was it's not
Speaker 1: a bit. Never lived there and it's never it's not
Speaker 1: a bit. L A. Of course it's soft. Well, what
Speaker 1: parts of l A are you hanging out? And we
Speaker 1: could put you in some parts of l A that
Speaker 1: you might have a different opinion about. That's how the
Speaker 1: city operates, not hanging out in Compton. Is that what
Speaker 1: you're trying to say? Many parts of l A? I
Speaker 1: don't know. All Right, for John, let's do some news Patrick,
Speaker 1: you're awesome. Let's start with the poor Buffalo Bills. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to think that Rex Ryan did something really devious,
Speaker 1: like maybe assassinated a world leader, something terrible in a
Speaker 1: prior life, because he keeps on stepping into some bad situations. Uh,
Speaker 1: the end of his Jets tenure is terrible, and now
Speaker 1: with the Bills, things keep on getting worse. Defensive tackle
Speaker 1: Marcel Darius has been suspended four games for yet another
Speaker 1: violation of the NFL Substance Abuse Policy. The team confirmed
Speaker 1: it in a statement. Greg they were not happy. Uh.
Speaker 1: They did not stick up for their man or defend him. Uh.
Speaker 1: Said that he put himself ahead of the team. Yikes. Uh.
Speaker 1: And Darius explained Mark Sessler UH that he missed that
Speaker 1: test and that's why he is positive. So he's not
Speaker 1: admitting that he was on anything. It's just he did
Speaker 1: not make the test. I mean, if you're the Bills,
Speaker 1: on top of everything else, it's every podcast we're telling
Speaker 1: you about a new development in Buffalo that's a disaster
Speaker 1: in the making. And with this, it's more about the
Speaker 1: fact that it was a year ago that you gave
Speaker 1: a seven year contract with sixty million guaranteed, and he
Speaker 1: opened last season with the one game suspension. He's got
Speaker 1: another one now. And you never know where these people
Speaker 1: are in the program and what's going on with these players.
Speaker 1: But this is this is another example of the Bills
Speaker 1: giving a bizarre contract to a great player a year ago,
Speaker 1: but someone that frankly is just not at this point
Speaker 1: someone you can trust and always been a little touch
Speaker 1: and go. What didn't have a good season? That's the
Speaker 1: bigger problem. You know. The suspension and not being available
Speaker 1: is obviously not what you want out of a guy
Speaker 1: making that much money. But he didn't play that well
Speaker 1: last year. He was okay, but he wasn't a guy.
Speaker 1: He wasn't that big of a difference maker. He didn't
Speaker 1: make up for what was going on around him really
Speaker 1: at all. And the Bills in these sternly worded statements,
Speaker 1: I guess it's pr that's just what it has to be.
Speaker 1: But it's kind of like at the end of the
Speaker 1: season when they released that statement that that Rex and
Speaker 1: Whaley will be back. It's all right enough with the statements.
Speaker 1: He might not have had a good year last year,
Speaker 1: but he certainly is a centerpiece of that defensive line. Oh,
Speaker 1: you have no question. And his losing him for four
Speaker 1: games just continues to streak. Uh Shack Lawson's out for
Speaker 1: how who knows how long? Reggie Raglan got hurt. Manny
Speaker 1: Lawson is gonna miss a game for suspension, Carlos Williams
Speaker 1: is suspended, I miss a team, and Polly got hurt.
Speaker 1: Like this is a defense that Rex had planned, need
Speaker 1: needs to be good again after a terrible season last year,
Speaker 1: to keep his job. Yeah, and it's just decimated right
Speaker 1: off the bat before he gets even a chance to
Speaker 1: put anybody on the field. Yeah. It was in January
Speaker 1: when Ryan was acknowledging that the Bill's defense, which is
Speaker 1: supposed to be you know, the arc he's the architect
Speaker 1: of this was thin and needed depth, and everything has
Speaker 1: gone completely south since that statement. I think Darius this
Speaker 1: is the maybe the biggest one of all those. I know,
Speaker 1: losing Ragling for the season hurts them bad, but Darius
Speaker 1: is really important to that, to that team. So even
Speaker 1: if it's just four games, it's a three man line.
Speaker 1: The rookie Adolphus Washington looks pretty good, but it's a
Speaker 1: three man line and he's anchoring, and that is a
Speaker 1: position they do not have anyone great behind him. Would
Speaker 1: it surprise you? And I know it's been a while
Speaker 1: since you know, Rex has felt like Rex. But all
Speaker 1: these different issues and all the adversity, if six weeks
Speaker 1: into the season that defense is playing well, Rex is
Speaker 1: its schemed up right, and he actually ends up looking
Speaker 1: better with playing without all these guys, and it's kind
Speaker 1: of what he needed to get a little bit of
Speaker 1: his swagger, has a chance. He has a chance to
Speaker 1: do something that no one would have expected, and it
Speaker 1: would have been great pr for Rex. I think if
Speaker 1: a much better shot of being one in five. You
Speaker 1: look at their schedule. It's not easy. I mean he's
Speaker 1: already said today he had the balls to say, this
Speaker 1: is still going to be a better defense than it
Speaker 1: was last year with all these guys missing. I agree,
Speaker 1: you agree that they're going to be a better defense
Speaker 1: with the Zach Brown, not gonna take that Brown playing
Speaker 1: big roles, Lorenzo Alexander being a big your pass rusher expectations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean until this suspension, I was still thinking I
Speaker 1: thought they had a chance. I think this is a
Speaker 1: top ten offense last year that has their players back
Speaker 1: and a chance to be a lot better on defensive.
Speaker 1: The reason I think that defens will be better because
Speaker 1: it was so bad last year. Well, there's no reason
Speaker 1: back and they can't be average. Back end will be
Speaker 1: very good, and I think what Rex as a coach
Speaker 1: is talking about. There was revolt last year. I mean
Speaker 1: it was it was everyone coming out in the press
Speaker 1: saying that Rex Ryan's scheme is too confusing, it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: They tell everyone being on the same page now from
Speaker 1: a coach angle, that's already better no matter what the
Speaker 1: results are. Here, here's the prediction I will make. They
Speaker 1: they the Bills bomb this year, Rex gets hand like
Speaker 1: they were supposed they gonna do last year, and then
Speaker 1: all these guys are healthy next year and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of talent on this on the team, and they
Speaker 1: bounced back and they're in the playoffs. And the next
Speaker 1: year with a with a new coach, and wreck just
Speaker 1: got unlucky because this team got just decimated by injury.
Speaker 1: I could see it. I could see it. Um moving on,
Speaker 1: you know, we were just talking about on this very podcast,
Speaker 1: how um terrible the depth is on the Eagles depth
Speaker 1: chart at wide receiver behind Jordan Matthews. So they did
Speaker 1: something about it. On Tuesday, the Eagles acquired former Titan
Speaker 1: second round pick Dorial green Beckham in a trade. The
Speaker 1: cost is a two thousand and twelve fifth round pick.
Speaker 1: Dennis Kelly, who's a swing guard tackle type started two
Speaker 1: games for Philly a year ago. Um, so there you
Speaker 1: go a little bit of depth at wide receiver. Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: do you think green Beckham is a guy that could
Speaker 1: help the Eagles. I think it's so telling that the
Speaker 1: Titans traded They basically took anything to get Dorial Green
Speaker 1: come out the door. That the that the d g
Speaker 1: B experiment came to the point where they felt like,
Speaker 1: this guy is one of the most physically talented guys
Speaker 1: to come into the league in the last five years,
Speaker 1: and we can't do anything with him. Will take depth
Speaker 1: on our offensive line over this, And it was the
Speaker 1: Eagles that called them up there, desperate for a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: That Eagles admit they've heard all the reports on this
Speaker 1: guy can't learn the playbook is a little bit out
Speaker 1: in space, and they're willing to take it on. It's
Speaker 1: they're not sure why not for but but I'm just
Speaker 1: saying from the Titans angle, it's all about the fact
Speaker 1: that that they completely came to an end result with
Speaker 1: d g B quickly too. Dan Helly, who's doing the
Speaker 1: Titans broadcast, said Marcus Mariotta just didn't trust d B,
Speaker 1: which is not good. But if you're the Eagles, Howie
Speaker 1: Rosemand sometimes acts a little more like a fantasy GM
Speaker 1: or like one of us, and I think that's in
Speaker 1: a good way. I don't think there's enough risk taking
Speaker 1: when there's almost no downside to a trade like this.
Speaker 1: Dennis Kelly was getting their quarterbacks killed. You know, he
Speaker 1: might not have made that team. So they basically got
Speaker 1: a guy this talented for free. See what you can
Speaker 1: do with him? Why not? Yeah, it's I mean, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be play on the outside. Your best received receiver.
Speaker 1: George Matthews is an inside guy, so he's not gonna
Speaker 1: take those snaps. So he takes a Reuben Rando who's
Speaker 1: getting killed the last week in the press, who's getting murdered.
Speaker 1: So he takes those snaps, and you have a guy
Speaker 1: with some high upside. I mean, I don't think we
Speaker 1: should expect him to put up huge numbers in the
Speaker 1: might not even start, might not even play. Well, that's
Speaker 1: the thing. I mean, it's there's all, it's all wonderful,
Speaker 1: but it's also a player that completely fizzled out in
Speaker 1: Tennessee because they couldn't trust him to even get on
Speaker 1: the field. He was falling down the depth charts. How
Speaker 1: much do you put on this on Malarkey and his staff.
Speaker 1: I mean he said today it just never clicked in
Speaker 1: with him, And well, how much how much is not
Speaker 1: clicking in late how much is on the player, and
Speaker 1: how much is on the coaching staff. Let's do what
Speaker 1: happens when you change your GM s and you change
Speaker 1: your coaches every year at different GM. Just last year,
Speaker 1: you know, took him our old friend, Dan's favorite GM
Speaker 1: in the league, Rust and Webster my favorite. You loved
Speaker 1: Rust and you thought he was electric at the combine
Speaker 1: like him. I liked him so much, like completely forgot
Speaker 1: anything about him. Is the way he looked, the way
Speaker 1: he acted, the job he did, probably a bad job.
Speaker 1: Let's move on. The Pro Football Hall of Fame announced
Speaker 1: Tuesday that Cowboys owner Jerry Jones and former NFL commissioner
Speaker 1: Paul taglia Boo were selected as contributor finalists for election
Speaker 1: for the Hall's two thousand seventeen class. Both interesting names.
Speaker 1: Taglia Boo was the commissioner from nine to two thousand
Speaker 1: and six before Roger Goodell took over. He succeeded Um
Speaker 1: an iconic person in Pete rosel Um, and I would
Speaker 1: say with taglie Boo, it's almost like he's sandwiched between
Speaker 1: two more notable guys. Goodell has been such a controversial
Speaker 1: lightning Rod type figure in the sports world, and Roselle
Speaker 1: is famous for growing the game of football. And then
Speaker 1: you have Jerry Jones, of course, who has owned the
Speaker 1: Cowboys since eighty nine. And Greg Uh. Not only has
Speaker 1: he been one of the faces of the NFL and
Speaker 1: one of the whether a hero, a villain, whatever, he
Speaker 1: is also instrumental in what's been going on behind the
Speaker 1: scenes as the NFL has be come the world's or
Speaker 1: the country's biggest sport. I think that's the only reason.
Speaker 1: He's not the only reason, but it's the main reason
Speaker 1: why he's a Hall of Fame finalist is for what
Speaker 1: he's done behind the scenes, whether it's helping to bring
Speaker 1: the Rams to l A, whether it's you know, creating
Speaker 1: new revenue streams with the way that he did sponsorships,
Speaker 1: it's boring stuff, television deals, lock out all that stuff.
Speaker 1: He's one of the guys that have been the owners
Speaker 1: that helps run the league. Plus you give him you know,
Speaker 1: you count the three titles, and Uh, I don't know
Speaker 1: these two guys. I don't think our rubber stamps to
Speaker 1: get in. Though usually if you get this far your
Speaker 1: names as a finalists, you get in. Wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: if either one of them or even both still didn't
Speaker 1: get in. Well, what would be holding Tagliaboo back? I mean,
Speaker 1: you're because he got shot down five or six times,
Speaker 1: and then what wasn't even making the finalist spot when
Speaker 1: he was when he was going up against players. So
Speaker 1: I think there's probably some case against them that, okay,
Speaker 1: just just just because you're a commissioner, you get to
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer. Well, I guess for me,
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. We and somehow we talked about
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame three three shows in a row
Speaker 1: until I was surprised that did. I thought you said
Speaker 1: we weren't doing it. Keep talking. I just I don't
Speaker 1: know if you're not gonna put a commissioner in. And
Speaker 1: Taglabou was not a There wasn't an issue with taglia Boo.
Speaker 1: He did a fine job during one of the pier
Speaker 1: growth periods in the NFL's history. I don't know why
Speaker 1: it's not getting rubbers. I think the current climate around
Speaker 1: concussions and when we're finding out what happened during that
Speaker 1: time period, I think that's one reason a lot of
Speaker 1: people would point to to say the heat. Well, then
Speaker 1: you know what they keep bringing taglia Boo in behind
Speaker 1: the scenes to solve current league issues, to sit down
Speaker 1: with people as a steady voice. So if he if
Speaker 1: you don't trust him and he's not a Hall of Famer,
Speaker 1: then stop doing that. He certainly got along with players better.
Speaker 1: There was no work stoppage. The relationship with players is
Speaker 1: probably better. He grew the game. There's four extra teams,
Speaker 1: and more than anything, he probably saved the Saints in
Speaker 1: professional football in New Orleans at a time when Tom
Speaker 1: Benson was trying to get it out of New Orleans.
Speaker 1: And I think people in New Orleans know that, and
Speaker 1: I think that's that's one major thing that's into taglia
Speaker 1: boost favor for this class. Do you think one last
Speaker 1: thing that Jerry Jones were to get in, would it
Speaker 1: be the official time for him to step away from
Speaker 1: the Cowboys in his current role, because he's been shifting
Speaker 1: towards that for a while. You wish, as GM well
Speaker 1: for Steven Jones to take off. Stephen Jones does seems
Speaker 1: like he has much more than he than he did
Speaker 1: in the past. It's it's coming. Jerry's not a young
Speaker 1: man anymore. Uh. Good conversation, guys, Finally, I know we're
Speaker 1: going to be hearing from Dan out to the show.
Speaker 1: I can fo. I don't know just at all what
Speaker 1: it was good. It was good. Finally, the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: extensive renovations on their home facility, uh, the renovations that
Speaker 1: were deemed necessary for them ever host a a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl again. They got it done. They pay big, big
Speaker 1: money to do it, and now to help I would
Speaker 1: think offset some of those costs, they have sold the
Speaker 1: naming rights to that old building once again. How many
Speaker 1: names is the building? Ad uh? Pro Player part uh
Speaker 1: Land Sharks Stadium a decent domestic lagger. By the way,
Speaker 1: that was actually a real name of that stadium, Sharks Stadium,
Speaker 1: Robbie Stadium, which is kind of how I always remember
Speaker 1: it all through the years, whenever it was something different,
Speaker 1: Oh it was Dolphins, it was Dolphins Stadium and Dolphins Stadium.
Speaker 1: I mean, come on and now and now it is
Speaker 1: hard Rock Stadium. How look out, rock and Roll is
Speaker 1: here to stay. Did you guys know that the hard
Speaker 1: Rock Cafe was still around? Well, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: if you want to talk about a time when the
Speaker 1: hard Rock Cafe was much cooler, was when Tagliaboo was
Speaker 1: the commissioner. It seems very old to me. They still
Speaker 1: have enough money to sponsor our stadium. This seems a
Speaker 1: little bit strange to me, And I was I was
Speaker 1: wondering if, um, the resident Dolphins fan in in this building,
Speaker 1: handsome Hank of course, Henry Hodson, if if he could
Speaker 1: let us know what his thoughts are on the new
Speaker 1: stadium in general. Just see where he's at as he
Speaker 1: moves into his new place within the company. Henry, are
Speaker 1: you there, Yes, I'm here. Hello Dan. Hey have you
Speaker 1: heard about hard Rocks Stadium? Oh, bring the babes and
Speaker 1: the beers and all. That's very exciting. Yeah. Um, this
Speaker 1: I think is the seventh name that Joe Robbie Stadium
Speaker 1: has had. We were just talking about. Definitely my favorite
Speaker 1: since Land Shark Stadium. See I remember that one too.
Speaker 1: So I just want to say, like, and you get
Speaker 1: on me sometimes just to pull back the curtain a
Speaker 1: little bit. Henry and his role as the director of programming, Um,
Speaker 1: you're really opening the kimono, opening the kimono a little
Speaker 1: bit here and uh, you know, getting below the tree
Speaker 1: tops and and letting people though that Henry has pulled
Speaker 1: me aside and said, I'm a little too anti Dolphins
Speaker 1: and a little bit you know, but you're a Jets fan.
Speaker 1: Old habits die hard, but sometimes the Dolphins make it
Speaker 1: too easy. And when Gloria, Stefan and Fergie sign off
Speaker 1: on hard Rocks stadium, O, no, just kind of a
Speaker 1: cheesy name, yes or no, it definitely is. And this
Speaker 1: is a great bit by you as well. I'm going
Speaker 1: to give a solid seven out of tens. Greg Is
Speaker 1: buried his face into his palm, so I don't think either. No,
Speaker 1: I like it. I feel bad for pitball, you know,
Speaker 1: like man most associated with Miami and Gloria has to
Speaker 1: find part owners and they're not hard rock, and they're
Speaker 1: calling the stadium hard rock. Henry, do you think because
Speaker 1: you're moving up the ranks, we always view you as
Speaker 1: a commissioner and waiting. Potentially if you ever reached that,
Speaker 1: would you kick out all these B list celebrities and
Speaker 1: and get some real ownership in there. I think not.
Speaker 1: That could be a good move. That could be a
Speaker 1: good move. I mean, I don't know how much day
Speaker 1: to day Serena Williams actually had them put on on.
Speaker 1: You know, some of the more important decisions around the building.
Speaker 1: But see Serena real Williams is the most accomplished athlete
Speaker 1: that's been in that building in thirty years. Oh wow,
Speaker 1: went there. That wasn't me, by the way, Henry, when
Speaker 1: I realized that was Greg, Henry, one question for you.
Speaker 1: I know, as Dan mentioned that you can every time
Speaker 1: we turn around you you seem to be flying up
Speaker 1: the corporate ladder. Do you feel do you wake up
Speaker 1: at times with us? Are you drunk with power? I'm
Speaker 1: asking do you feel just drunk with power at this point?
Speaker 1: No more than you when when Greg goes on vacation?
Speaker 1: All right, fair enough, well Greg is not my supervisor anymore,
Speaker 1: just not any longer. But why I know when David
Speaker 1: Eally goes off to wherever it is that that he goes, um,
Speaker 1: you'll you'll be there ready to take control. Henry makes
Speaker 1: a point, a good point. Once Eally goes on a vacation,
Speaker 1: will Cessler be subservient to Eally in the same way
Speaker 1: he was with Greg reporting things back to different slights
Speaker 1: towards the boss. Will that happened with Eale? Mark? Right?
Speaker 1: And has has Mark already done the work that you
Speaker 1: know he did behind the scenes to to ensure that
Speaker 1: he was the number two to Greg, you know, working
Speaker 1: his way pass you Dan and pass West. Yeah, certainly
Speaker 1: is he doing the same kind of snaky things in
Speaker 1: the background. Nice attempt, Henry. I'll remind you it's a
Speaker 1: case by case basis and Greg needed to be dealt
Speaker 1: with in a certain way and Eale in a very
Speaker 1: different way, and I'm sure you will have sniffed out
Speaker 1: the right way to do that. Well, Henry, I thank
Speaker 1: you for taking his time in between high leverage corporate meetings. Um.
Speaker 1: I will as a gift to you to celebrate hard
Speaker 1: Rock Stadium, I'll send you one of those old jackets
Speaker 1: they used to have with the leather sleeves. And I
Speaker 1: have one other thing for you. Yes, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you've heard, but I'm I'm from the United Kingdom.
Speaker 1: I picked up and Um, I've had a few tweets
Speaker 1: in the last week about your British accent, and I
Speaker 1: think there's kind of a move underway to try and
Speaker 1: stop you from doing it ever again. You know, that's
Speaker 1: always been kind of just under the radar, but now
Speaker 1: I think it's starting to hit the mainstream to really
Speaker 1: shut me down. I think it was who was it you?
Speaker 1: Because Wolford sounds sounds um like a British person or
Speaker 1: your impression of a British person. But he also doesn't
Speaker 1: sound very intelligent. Maybe maybe had a couple of shots
Speaker 1: to the head. He could have fell off his bike
Speaker 1: or something. You're right, right to be honest, Dan, I
Speaker 1: was on a plane listening to that at six am
Speaker 1: yesterday and I was trying not to laugh out loud.
Speaker 1: Sore you go. And Patrick is a very serious guy.
Speaker 1: How about that, Henry, it's just good points. I have
Speaker 1: no comeback for that. If Kevin Patrick's there and he
Speaker 1: likes it, then who am I to stand in the way? Agreed?
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Speaker 1: Very powerful man, that's what's happening in the news. Al Right.
Speaker 1: It is time four the greatest Greg Rows at all
Speaker 1: football television series in the history of the media. There's
Speaker 1: no doubt about that Hard Knocks Report episode two, and
Speaker 1: I will you know, listen, I'm I'm a big fan
Speaker 1: of the show, but I'm no shill for the show.
Speaker 1: I think it's a little slow out of the gates
Speaker 1: so far. I think, Uh, I wouldn't say that this
Speaker 1: season now through U is right now heading toward the
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame or the Mount rushmore of Hard Knocks seasons,
Speaker 1: Um a little five episodes or six five? I believe
Speaker 1: there are five episodes. Um, it's it's certainly interesting. And
Speaker 1: I guess my big picture takeaway And I wrote about
Speaker 1: this in my Hard Knocks recap, which you can check
Speaker 1: out at NFL dot com slash hard Knocks, Hard Knocks. Uh.
Speaker 1: That Jeff Fisher, especially after watching All or Nothing this
Speaker 1: summer where Bruce Arians ran to me, it was a
Speaker 1: surprisingly tight ship and he Arians was a more intense
Speaker 1: guy than I realized. Uh. Fisher to me is a
Speaker 1: it's a very kind of loose atmosphere. Uh from where
Speaker 1: I was my my vantage point on the couch, different
Speaker 1: for sure Uh than um Uh Bruce Arians, who would
Speaker 1: you know, went after guys Hard got very angry Fisher,
Speaker 1: even when he had his now infamous rant about seven
Speaker 1: and nine last week. It didn't seem as natural coming
Speaker 1: out of him. Um, and you get the vibe watching
Speaker 1: the team and Greg, I know you watched the episode,
Speaker 1: if you if you've picked up on that at all,
Speaker 1: uh as well, And I know they're it's NFL films.
Speaker 1: They're they're gonna highlight some of the lighter moments camp
Speaker 1: for entertainment value you. But it does seem pretty loose,
Speaker 1: uh at Vine. That's fair. He's a southern California guy,
Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher, so maybe that's that's Culver City where we
Speaker 1: are right now. You don't think of him as kind
Speaker 1: of a loose guy like that, lighthearted, but he seems
Speaker 1: kind of chill the more you get to to watch him.
Speaker 1: And some of his position coaches are the guys playing
Speaker 1: the bad guys. I mean, my Mike Waffle. You know
Speaker 1: he is one of the heroes. And I hope there's
Speaker 1: even more. I'll give you a break, stay say who
Speaker 1: you are. By the way, I would never dare to
Speaker 1: criticize Mike Wild can come after me and kill me
Speaker 1: because he is the best. He's the marine from Full
Speaker 1: Metal Jacket. This is an actually and you know who's
Speaker 1: the best players on their team, the best unit over
Speaker 1: the last five years, the defensive line who Mike Waffles coaching. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean he didn't give the DNA that Aaron Robert Quinn.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, I'd be afraid to let that guy down.
Speaker 1: That's true, an actual line from Mike Waffle on Tuesday. Uh.
Speaker 1: And get ready, this is gonna need some bleeping. I
Speaker 1: keep irish active with the people, knock them back. But
Speaker 1: the quarterback on the ground, go celebrate that you and
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, that must be from the preseason game
Speaker 1: and he was piste off at the Cowboys. Now he's
Speaker 1: only his own guys, that's a practice. He just dropped
Speaker 1: an fu which seemed pretty heavy. But anyway, getting back
Speaker 1: to to the general vibe of the camp, you know,
Speaker 1: when you start saying these things, it's a laid back,
Speaker 1: loose atmosphere. Kevin Patrick and then the dreaded Oh they're
Speaker 1: running a country club. I don't want to say that
Speaker 1: that's unfair. I'm not close enough to the team to
Speaker 1: say that. But when Kenny Britt and Brian Quick overturned
Speaker 1: in their golf card and almost killed themselves, uh, you
Speaker 1: would think and I was thinking, Bruce Arian, that is
Speaker 1: quite ridiculous. It was you're you're not expecting that, You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: we've seen this hard knocks seen before where guys are
Speaker 1: just like driving around and then suddenly how lucky were they?
Speaker 1: Not lucky but that the camera was there and it's
Speaker 1: just like bam, yeah, and Kenny Britt almost gets landed
Speaker 1: on him, right it did. He got very lucky and
Speaker 1: they're both kind of laughing, and during the admonishment pros process,
Speaker 1: I thought that was a little interesting too. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: thought that was weird that Britt was laughing as they
Speaker 1: as they stood him up, being like, you guys could
Speaker 1: have been here. And when this came and we were
Speaker 1: saying maybe it was a little unfair. Dion Long got
Speaker 1: cut last week for um having a girl in his
Speaker 1: dorm and he was immediately sent out the door an
Speaker 1: undrafted wide receiver. This this crashing of the moped situation
Speaker 1: came shortly after they showed Fisher saying guys be careful
Speaker 1: on these things. I don't want anybody doing any funny business.
Speaker 1: And then these guys are like racing like fast and
Speaker 1: the furious I mean I I had behind because I
Speaker 1: did not see this episode yet you read the recap
Speaker 1: though I read the recap today. Question for you. It
Speaker 1: seemed it seemed one of the briefer recaps from you,
Speaker 1: and I was wondering, was this is this series in
Speaker 1: general a little low wattage because the first I love
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks, but episode one was a hard six out
Speaker 1: of ten for me. Like it's just I felt like,
Speaker 1: from the minute they announced the l A Rams, I thought,
Speaker 1: here's the five things I know we're going to happen
Speaker 1: in episode one and one to three, four, five, they
Speaker 1: all happened. It's like, are they branching into new areas
Speaker 1: where you're learning about people that you didn't know? Did
Speaker 1: you say low watted you? Because last year was the
Speaker 1: Texans and what was I did not? Possibly? Um, well,
Speaker 1: I I was trying to be economical. I did make
Speaker 1: some cuts, but yeah, there wasn't It wasn't like the
Speaker 1: words are pouring out because there wasn't something jumping out
Speaker 1: at me so far. But I do the one if
Speaker 1: this season, If nothing else, this scene the season will
Speaker 1: give us. Uh this quote from Jeff Fisher on William Hayes,
Speaker 1: but we learned last year was the guy that didn't
Speaker 1: believe in dinosaurs, but it is now we're learning about
Speaker 1: his belief in a mystical, mythical sea creature that makes
Speaker 1: them even more strange. Will Hayes absolutely believes, and it's
Speaker 1: totally convinced that there are mermaids and they do exist. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's a matter of fact. Remember him getting really excited
Speaker 1: about the potential from moving out here because he knew
Speaker 1: that he would be closer to mermaids here on the
Speaker 1: West Coast. Cessler hates that. I'll give you no I
Speaker 1: just I think it's it just feels. Is it contrived
Speaker 1: at all? Do you think he really doesn't think William Hayes,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's contrived at all, because this has
Speaker 1: been a thing for years. He also doesn't believe in dying.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you listen to him arguing, I mean,
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback doesn't know where the sun rises the sky,
Speaker 1: thinks that mermaids are flying around. If you listen to him,
Speaker 1: his his arguments for why he believes it, Like he's like,
Speaker 1: what about the dinosaurs in the sea, They're like the
Speaker 1: meteor hit He's like, but they were underwater fire. It
Speaker 1: was like it was like that you know, crac You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know. The whole thing was insane any his
Speaker 1: his reasoning for why Mermaids could exist because scientists find
Speaker 1: new organisms in the ocean every day. But then he
Speaker 1: turns against science when it comes to the dinosaur um stuff.
Speaker 1: So that is all fun. But I love the show.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch. It doesn't matter, you know, whether the
Speaker 1: show is having an offseason or a good season. I
Speaker 1: still enjoy it. It's like pizza, but um, maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit of a slow start. Jared Goff reminds me
Speaker 1: a lot by the way his even though he's from
Speaker 1: northern California, he reminds me a lot of Mark Sanchez
Speaker 1: in the two thousand ten Hard Knocks season and Jets
Speaker 1: for his young kind of cocky, a little bit goofy,
Speaker 1: and seem demature. Still has a way to go to
Speaker 1: kind of really earn the respect of his teammates, but
Speaker 1: he's still the hot shot on the on the rock.
Speaker 1: I think we can forget how young these people are
Speaker 1: and what we were like at that same age. And
Speaker 1: it's easy to jump on Golf for what happened in
Speaker 1: the first episode at least, But I mean these like
Speaker 1: a twenty one two year old kid, and they talked
Speaker 1: about Fisher. They said there were some whispers that the
Speaker 1: Rams weren't into Wentz because WinCE was this a type personality,
Speaker 1: and that it wasn't Fisher's personality. That Fisher and Golf
Speaker 1: were much more similar types in terms of being laid back.
Speaker 1: So golf has a seven and nine personality? Is that
Speaker 1: I like it's made me like case Key no more.
Speaker 1: Though he's he's gotta you know, he's exactly kind of
Speaker 1: what you'd figure case Eno would be. But he's what
Speaker 1: you would want in a starting quarterback, welcoming in golf,
Speaker 1: and I don't know doesn't he's also the all time
Speaker 1: leader in yards, touchdowns, and completions and n c a history.
Speaker 1: Poor case Keenum doesn't this a little respect. I was
Speaker 1: surprised to see whatever or hear that, um, but I
Speaker 1: there is there are patterns. If you watch a show
Speaker 1: every summer, it seems like if you're a veteran backup quarterback,
Speaker 1: you're in a good spot to come off is pretty
Speaker 1: cool on the show. Yeah, that more A couple of
Speaker 1: years ago, Mark Brunel, in that Jet season, they kept
Speaker 1: to be the older guy that you know imparts wisdom
Speaker 1: and is a little more laid back because he knows
Speaker 1: it's not all on his shoulders and it usually comes
Speaker 1: off um well. Anyway, any other thoughts, guys on the
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks report, Well you, I enjoyed the write up
Speaker 1: you saved me. I would not know a thing that
Speaker 1: happened otherwise. I'm just glad America has gotten to meet
Speaker 1: Rob Boris, the Rams offensive coordinator. Is anyone more under
Speaker 1: the radar for for a guy who's running an entire offense,
Speaker 1: probably with no help from uh, you know, Jeff Fisher.
Speaker 1: How do you follow up for Frank Signetti? Buddy? That
Speaker 1: stuff Frank Signetti? Uh? And one last note in in
Speaker 1: praise of NFL Films, It's amazing the bottomless nature of
Speaker 1: their their vault in Mountain. Laurel Ian say I was
Speaker 1: a undrafted defensive end or maybe he's a late round pick.
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but he's the nephew of Junior say Ow.
Speaker 1: And what other UM Films entity could do what they
Speaker 1: did in this episode, which was not only they talked
Speaker 1: about how uh he looked up to his uncle, but
Speaker 1: then they cut to NFL Films archive footage of Junior
Speaker 1: say oh, watching Ian say how as a boy playing
Speaker 1: in his football league from the sidelines, It's like, wow, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was awesome. The shots of Jeff Fisher at
Speaker 1: the original RAMS training Kim. People destroyed each other training
Speaker 1: Kim in. I know the league has a long way
Speaker 1: to go and player health and safety, but for strides
Speaker 1: in that department, look no further than the difference in amps. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then they would practice all year long that way too.
Speaker 1: It was a completely different type of football player. All right,
Speaker 1: let's move on, guys. Oh, one thing before we move on,
Speaker 1: I just want to remind everyone big announcement next week,
Speaker 1: the third annual Around the NFL Fantasy Extravaganza. Kevin Rump
Speaker 1: pumped from the outside perspective of someone that's not in
Speaker 1: the studio much. How excited are you about this year's edition?
Speaker 1: Probably at least a five point five out of ten.
Speaker 1: That's that's all that's good in Patra's world. That's if
Speaker 1: you know bell curve, that's cool. It's a it's an
Speaker 1: f failure. But if when Patrick was eight, you've got
Speaker 1: a great on a you got a greade on a curve,
Speaker 1: Patrick on Christmas Eve, you would have said six point
Speaker 1: five one to how excited are you about your lady friend?
Speaker 1: That's a big question. I'm not answering that I'm actually
Speaker 1: not gonna gonna listen to the show. No, but on
Speaker 1: the off shot that why wouldn't you listen, Well, why
Speaker 1: wouldn't you answer at ten? It's obvious No, I'm just
Speaker 1: not gonna do that because then my reputations on the
Speaker 1: line as a as a hard I'm just gonna not six,
Speaker 1: and then declined to answer six and a half, declining
Speaker 1: six to answer the fantasy show coming in just below
Speaker 1: lady friends. This is like a coach that won't announce
Speaker 1: that starting quarterback. You only don't say, you know not
Speaker 1: unless you have something to hide the London game. Maybe
Speaker 1: I do, Maybe I do? All right? Interesting a little look, Greg,
Speaker 1: incredulous that it likes to give relationship advice. Division preview
Speaker 1: time number three. We've done the NFC East, We've done.
Speaker 1: Now they don't have to see South, and then the
Speaker 1: NFC Ust and then we gotta do it all again
Speaker 1: with the AFC. This time we're talking about, Yes, the
Speaker 1: South division, which has your your enthusiasm, is really going
Speaker 1: to help with the listeners. I'm sure they're just like
Speaker 1: crazy the listeners. What's wrong? We're up and down with it.
Speaker 1: I don't like when there's a lot, you know, like
Speaker 1: when you were a college kid and you were you
Speaker 1: had to write a thirty seven page term paper and
Speaker 1: you're just at the beginning of it. It just feels
Speaker 1: like this mountain that you have to climb. I'm still
Speaker 1: I'm only like ten pages into the turn paper. That's so.
Speaker 1: I like it, though. I like talking football with you, guys.
Speaker 1: We just got a long way to go. Look on
Speaker 1: great is just absolutely everything. Yeah, well, it was the
Speaker 1: fact that you feel that need to even say the words.
Speaker 1: I like talking football with you guys. Really like that,
Speaker 1: like that would be in question. Um, Henry by the way,
Speaker 1: just sent me a no, we don't use that word,
Speaker 1: and I am. Here are the stadium names in Miami
Speaker 1: through the years. Joe Robbie, Pro Player Park, Pro Player Stadium,
Speaker 1: Dolphins Stadium, Dolphin Stadium, Land Shark Stadium. Oh, this one
Speaker 1: goes under the radar sun Life. That's where they played
Speaker 1: the Super Ball. That's where is that the Saints a
Speaker 1: super Bowl? No no, oh, And it was real. They
Speaker 1: were both there. We're both right, Okay, you're right, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: everybody's right and finally Hard Rock Stadium. Okay. NFC South,
Speaker 1: who wants to start today? Mark? Do you want to
Speaker 1: start today or would you have? Mark? Will start today?
Speaker 1: In the NFC South, Greg, what are the teams in
Speaker 1: the NFC South? The Atlanta Falcons, New Orleans Saints, Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers, and the defending NFC Championship, Your Carolina Panthers,
Speaker 1: very professional, real broadcaster, uh Mark, you will get us
Speaker 1: going with the breakout star of the NFC South in
Speaker 1: the year. I'm gonna go with Devin Funches, Panthers second
Speaker 1: year wide receiver. I mean, part of it's just reading
Speaker 1: the Tea leaves one beat reporter after the next without
Speaker 1: any question, calling him the m v P of training camp.
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera said, I don't even want to say who
Speaker 1: the m VP is because I don't want to jinx him.
Speaker 1: But it's clear he's talking about Devin Funcius and has
Speaker 1: a lot to do with Kelvin Benjamin has. You know,
Speaker 1: they're bringing him along very slowly. His conditioning has not
Speaker 1: been and Funcius has played the role of number one
Speaker 1: wide receiver going up against number one cornerbacks in practice.
Speaker 1: And in game. In the game as well, caught a
Speaker 1: touchdown pass. But they just said that him and Cam
Speaker 1: Newton one long connection after the next, that he's completely
Speaker 1: become a more versatile player, totally trust where They love
Speaker 1: his offseason. And so for me, because you know, maybe
Speaker 1: Benjamin doesn't get off to the roaring start that some
Speaker 1: would expect. Funcius, who's been there all along for months
Speaker 1: and months, is installed as that guy that Cam Newton
Speaker 1: can really look to, and it speaks to me a
Speaker 1: big season. I would say ten plus touchdowns would not
Speaker 1: be out of the question at all. My concern there
Speaker 1: would be where does he fit in once Kelvin Benjamin
Speaker 1: is back. Ted Jr. Is not exactly a slot receiver.
Speaker 1: So we're we're how does the Trio twin towers on
Speaker 1: the outside that I think so that Dave got a
Speaker 1: and he has a vision and the field den Fud
Speaker 1: just looks like a tight end. So does Benjamin. Benjamin's
Speaker 1: weight thing has slipped under the radar a little bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is the guy who's had weight problems
Speaker 1: going back years and years. He's got weight conditioning problems.
Speaker 1: Now he's a key part of that team, and and
Speaker 1: I couldn't agree with you more. Mark. I think I
Speaker 1: think it's set up for Devin Funch just to be
Speaker 1: kind of a co number one with with Benjamin, that
Speaker 1: was the whole goal back back when they drafted him
Speaker 1: second round, when they reached a lot of people thought
Speaker 1: they reached when they took him that high. We'll see
Speaker 1: former tight end playing wide receiver that that was. That's
Speaker 1: an adjustment. We need to see it happen, first of all.
Speaker 1: But it makes sense with Cam Newton too, that he's
Speaker 1: the guy who's not afraid to throw it into tight windows.
Speaker 1: Not a guy who's gonna be opened by a ton,
Speaker 1: but a big guy. You can throw it up high too,
Speaker 1: and you'll catch it. Patra your breakout star. We're sticking
Speaker 1: with the Carolina Panthers. I'm going Shack Thompson. I think
Speaker 1: you know he had fifty tackles last year, played limited
Speaker 1: to start, but I think with him, Thomas Davis and
Speaker 1: Luke Keickley, that's gonna be the fast just linebacking trio.
Speaker 1: It already is the fastest linebacking is going to be
Speaker 1: even faster. I think he can cover tight ends whenever needed,
Speaker 1: and I think that's gonna give them versatility, he can
Speaker 1: rush the passer. He's gonna being a whole dimension. I
Speaker 1: think his speed is gonna be dynamic this year and
Speaker 1: gonna That's one reason I think they're not so worried
Speaker 1: about the cornerback position because I think they can he
Speaker 1: They believe that he can cover some of those gaps
Speaker 1: in their zone scheme, and he can stay on the
Speaker 1: field and cover a bigger, a slower wide receiver or
Speaker 1: a tight end in those nickel situations, so they're not
Speaker 1: worried as much about the depth at the corner. I
Speaker 1: was watching the Ravens Panthers preseason game and they talked
Speaker 1: about Jack Thompson as their defensive m v P of
Speaker 1: this of this training game. So that draft for Dave
Speaker 1: Gedelman is looking outstanding right now. And against the Ravens,
Speaker 1: they were moving him all over the field. They love
Speaker 1: to do all sorts of stuff with him, and he
Speaker 1: did it well and he's incredibly fast, And I think
Speaker 1: you're exactly right. I agree with you. If Shack Thompson
Speaker 1: takes a step up like that front of Thomas Davis,
Speaker 1: forget within ten percent of where he was last year.
Speaker 1: That's not just the you know, fastest linebacker group this year.
Speaker 1: That's one of the best linebacker groups in the last
Speaker 1: fifteen years because Luke Cakeley is the best in the league,
Speaker 1: Thomas Davis is in that range, and if Shack Thompson
Speaker 1: is a Pro Bowl typ player, that's an insane linebacker group.
Speaker 1: Good start guys, a lot of pressure on me to
Speaker 1: keep it up. I will go with a tight end
Speaker 1: in New Orleans named Kobe Fleaner, who, well, I know,
Speaker 1: Kobe Fleiner is not a very popular guy. It seems
Speaker 1: like a lot of people think he is a flawed
Speaker 1: football player. But I don't think you need to be
Speaker 1: a perfect You don't have to be Rob Gronkowski to
Speaker 1: thrive in New Orleans at the tight end position. I
Speaker 1: think Drew Brees, despite some reports of the contrary, maybe
Speaker 1: his arm strength is a little diminished, was still a
Speaker 1: monster producer last year. Benjamin Watson, who, by the way,
Speaker 1: you want to pick one person who is not gonna
Speaker 1: come close to their numbers from the year before, Ben
Speaker 1: Watson ain't sniffing eight hundred yards eight in Baltimore hundred targets,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't I think that. What
Speaker 1: I think he'll top his eight he yarders from last
Speaker 1: year in can I take your standard? Thank you? Okay, anyway, disagree,
Speaker 1: But that's not even the heart of my my uh
Speaker 1: point here. It's more the idea of I think Watson is,
Speaker 1: while a nice player and it seems like a very
Speaker 1: good guy, not the most dynamic football player. Kobe Fleaner
Speaker 1: is an offensive talent. Maybe not a great blocker, but
Speaker 1: great hands, can run like the devil, and with Drew
Speaker 1: Brees and some emergent talent around him, I think Kobe
Speaker 1: Fleaner is gonna be one thousand yard receiver and UH
Speaker 1: put him in the top ten, uh tight end conversation
Speaker 1: maybe higher. Wow, it's been a great position in New Orleans,
Speaker 1: like you said, So that's a good way to connect
Speaker 1: the dots. It's bad news for making the leap candidate
Speaker 1: Josh Hill from a year ago, who I basically spent
Speaker 1: you know, three days, ten thousand words writing about a ghost.
Speaker 1: But that was a stretch like in retrospan because everyone thought,
Speaker 1: all right, it was an eel. He was an season
Speaker 1: that slot will get those targets and produce. But I
Speaker 1: think Fleaner comes in with an actual pedigree as an
Speaker 1: offensive the problem with Fleaner, I think for this is
Speaker 1: that I think the receivers are so much better now
Speaker 1: that that's where some of those balls are gonna go.
Speaker 1: Are we concerned a great route runner in in India
Speaker 1: and those things will carry over. I don't think he's
Speaker 1: gonna just all of a sudden be great at getting open.
Speaker 1: Are concerned the Cults wanted Dwayne Allen over Koby Fleaner
Speaker 1: without looking back to think that's how they're one. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pick a more obvious, big name guys, my breakout player,
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston. If there's a quarterback in the league that
Speaker 1: I think has the best chance to improve this season dramatically,
Speaker 1: it's Jamis Winston. You line up and and I'm taking
Speaker 1: this idea from the Football Outsiders Almanac, which is a
Speaker 1: is a great work. You should check it out. If
Speaker 1: you look at his stats versus Andrew luck Stack stats
Speaker 1: as rookies, uh, they're very similar and Winston's are better.
Speaker 1: And when I think of those two quarterbacks, I think
Speaker 1: they're pretty similar. They were in similar situations. I think
Speaker 1: when Aston's far more athletic and better escaping, uh the
Speaker 1: pass rush and running a little bit, then he was
Speaker 1: given credit for UH. Certainly just like Andrew Luck. I
Speaker 1: think he sees the field and anticipation in his mind
Speaker 1: is on fire. And I love Mariota and there's no
Speaker 1: need to compare the two. But if I'm picking one
Speaker 1: quarterback I think can make that leap to a top
Speaker 1: seven eight type of quarterback in a big second year leap,
Speaker 1: I think I think it's Jamis Winston. I know Chris
Speaker 1: Wessling is a huge fan of UH. Maybe not as
Speaker 1: big a fantasy as Marcus Mariota, but he watched every
Speaker 1: snap and came away thinking that Winston has that type
Speaker 1: of ability. He's in better shape now, he lost something,
Speaker 1: maybe fat. Maybe this all translates to a leap. I
Speaker 1: think Mike Evans could be better this year, and I
Speaker 1: think that will help Jamis Winston. I mean, when you're
Speaker 1: just looking for all the traits and a quarterback that
Speaker 1: you want, whether it's intangible or tangible to me, he
Speaker 1: he is that guy, and I think he showed it
Speaker 1: even more than Winston. They're both great, but I I
Speaker 1: feel really confident when they were surprised by how much
Speaker 1: of a leader he was. When you watch Jared Goff
Speaker 1: on hard knocks and you realize how hard it is
Speaker 1: as a quarterback to command these veterans that even by
Speaker 1: a month in, they were like, this guy gets it,
Speaker 1: and the way he treated his offseason makes sense. Actually,
Speaker 1: Winston was going to be one of my my underrated
Speaker 1: under the radar stories that we'll get to later. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just think that even in this room, I mean,
Speaker 1: everyone talks about Mariota, but nobody talks. I mean, where
Speaker 1: where is the Winston's gonna be great in year two storyline? Nationally?
Speaker 1: I think the Tampa has helped really been a weird
Speaker 1: way because he is under the radar for a number
Speaker 1: one quarterback who pretty much lived up to the building
Speaker 1: right off the bat. Alright, moving on biggest concern in
Speaker 1: the NFC South Mark. I'm gonna leave a couple of
Speaker 1: things like the Saints defense sitting out there if someone
Speaker 1: else wants to talk about it. For me, I totally
Speaker 1: like shot that one down now though it's got no
Speaker 1: glory anymore. Well, I wasn't, that wasn't my goal, but
Speaker 1: that's how she defense. That's what I was planning to do.
Speaker 1: But I want to talk about the fact that you know, Dan,
Speaker 1: you've been mentioning, you've been predicting that Tom Brady fall
Speaker 1: off a cliff season. Now I'm not. Let's make sure
Speaker 1: we have this right that he's going to go into
Speaker 1: a gradual decline. Well, all right, I mean we're all
Speaker 1: gradually declining. So I thought it was a stronger prediction
Speaker 1: than that. And then my concern is the same thing
Speaker 1: with Drew Brees. I mean, they act like this guy
Speaker 1: is just gonna keep turning out these seasons over and
Speaker 1: over and over. It is a team that is not
Speaker 1: well built. I don't think overall their defense has issues
Speaker 1: and there's still a team that's got to win shootouts,
Speaker 1: and as Drew Brees, who had helped it use to
Speaker 1: some degree last year, going to be able to last.
Speaker 1: I think if that, if that doesn't happen, a you
Speaker 1: don't have a clear air apparent to him. You just
Speaker 1: latched on a Sean Payton for another X amount of years,
Speaker 1: and suddenly if Breeze is not at the all pro level,
Speaker 1: that team completely collapses upon itself. I'm not as much
Speaker 1: worried about him collapsing as much as his offensive line.
Speaker 1: In front of the interior. That offensive line, that's how
Speaker 1: quarterbacks get hurt though, But I don't get that. He's
Speaker 1: got one of, if not the best left tackles in
Speaker 1: the league. He's got a great center, He's got a
Speaker 1: first round pick playing at one of the guard spots, Andrews,
Speaker 1: it's like the other side. All right, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's more than a lot of teams have
Speaker 1: on the offensive line. And and I I am so
Speaker 1: high on on the young talent round and Michael Thomas
Speaker 1: and Brandon Cooks and the mark Ingram I think is
Speaker 1: underrated CJ. Spiller to him, I just think he has
Speaker 1: so many players, Kobe Fleaner way more weapons. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the defense might be terrible. We'll see, I will, but
Speaker 1: I just think he'll. I think he'll put up a
Speaker 1: monster year. He looked pretty good at the end of
Speaker 1: last year. Mark. I will save my counter to that
Speaker 1: for our next category. Kevin Patra break out the biggest concern.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Falcons pass rush because I
Speaker 1: think that the rest of the team, I think it
Speaker 1: could couldn't be solid. Let's assume that the rookie linebackers
Speaker 1: are as good as we think they could be. Neil
Speaker 1: on the back end of safety is as good as
Speaker 1: he could can be. The offensive line plays up to billing.
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan has one of his better seasons after a
Speaker 1: couple of mediocre ones. The pass rush, Are they going
Speaker 1: to really get to the quarterback outside of Vic Beasley?
Speaker 1: Are we expecting seventy five year old freey two come back?
Speaker 1: And it's amazing he's still playing at this He only
Speaker 1: played eight games last year. He has he played really well,
Speaker 1: but I mean he's gonna is he gonna play a
Speaker 1: whole season? And who else? Who else do they have
Speaker 1: that's gonna get to the quarter But they can try
Speaker 1: to signor again. I mean that's what they do. They
Speaker 1: go out and sign the person that should have retired
Speaker 1: three years Side Shelby, which I thought was, oh chance,
Speaker 1: we're taking look pretty good in Miami, young guy. I
Speaker 1: just don't I don't see where if the back end
Speaker 1: is so good, good linebacker, because like I said, let's
Speaker 1: assume that those but if you don't ever touch the
Speaker 1: quarterback with Cam Newton, Drew Brees, James Winston in your
Speaker 1: own division, they're gonna pick you apart. You have to
Speaker 1: get after the quarterback. And we're not even sure that
Speaker 1: the top rusher right now. Had four sacks as a rookie,
Speaker 1: so we don't know if they can get back to
Speaker 1: the quarterback. This is the team that could, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: threatened for the division if with all their other parts,
Speaker 1: But if they can't get to the quarterback, it's gonna
Speaker 1: ruin everything. Kind of piggyback with mine because I don't
Speaker 1: think they're a threat in the division, and I think
Speaker 1: it's just they have issues on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1: I'm a little worried about this Kyle Shanahan experiment or
Speaker 1: experience in Atlanta. It didn't go too smoothly last year,
Speaker 1: and there were reports that Matt Ryan struggled a little
Speaker 1: bit with Kyle Shannon. Kyle Shannon, for a guy that
Speaker 1: gets a lot of UH compliments, is bounced around a
Speaker 1: lot in this league, and they weren't that great last year.
Speaker 1: I think Matt Ryan kind of plateaued as a quarterback
Speaker 1: at his age thirty two season. We kind of know
Speaker 1: who he is at this point, and I don't think
Speaker 1: they did enough to help him in the off season.
Speaker 1: I really think Mohammed Sanu is a guy that's gonna
Speaker 1: disappoint there. Julio Jones is still a genius at his
Speaker 1: craft and is gonna have a monster season, But I
Speaker 1: don't know if they're gonna score enough points to offset
Speaker 1: issues on other side, other aspects of the team. I
Speaker 1: think this is an offense that could be a problem
Speaker 1: and it could cost Mr Shanahan another job. At the
Speaker 1: end of the year, I had written the same idea
Speaker 1: down as as a possible underrated storyline, that that this
Speaker 1: offense was the problem last year. It's weird that that
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan has such a bad year in a year
Speaker 1: that the offensive line was pretty good, the running game
Speaker 1: for the most part, was pretty good, and yet this
Speaker 1: was this team was twenty three in offense uh from
Speaker 1: Football Outsiders d v o A, which is the you know,
Speaker 1: it was a decline in which I can't quite wrap
Speaker 1: my head around it. Matt Ryan is a huge, huge
Speaker 1: part making big mistakes, so I don't know what was
Speaker 1: missing there. I think they have room to improve. But
Speaker 1: it's underrated that that that was that was just as
Speaker 1: big a problem as the defense. Because you expected the
Speaker 1: defense to be mediocre. They were last in the league
Speaker 1: the year before that. It was surprising the offense was
Speaker 1: so bad. The only the only thing I disagree with.
Speaker 1: I think Sanu will actually play well in this offense.
Speaker 1: Even in the preseason game against the Redskins, wasn't out
Speaker 1: there long, made two catches, seems an integral part of
Speaker 1: the deal. I think he's an upgrade from where Roddy
Speaker 1: White was a year. Like I guess this is my question.
Speaker 1: Anybody's really an upgrade over Roddy White in two thousand six,
Speaker 1: But then it's an upgrade for your passing game. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but what did we see from Mohammed Sanu
Speaker 1: over the greater part of what was three or four
Speaker 1: four years instance? And I think that now going with
Speaker 1: a quarterback, it was more or less it's kind of
Speaker 1: at the same level. Also with an elite wide receiver
Speaker 1: A J. Green, Julio Jones. Why are we all going
Speaker 1: to see all of a sudden see this jomb I
Speaker 1: think he was up and down in Cincinnati, But if
Speaker 1: you look at the season two seasons ago when A. J.
Speaker 1: Green was out of the line up a bunch and
Speaker 1: he was forced to go into a number one role,
Speaker 1: he had big games. He put up big numbers, and
Speaker 1: I'm not seeing as a number one receiver, but he's
Speaker 1: in the perfect place as a number two. I feel
Speaker 1: like the same thing the opposite happened in another stretch
Speaker 1: with a J. Green, where Sanu didn't do anything when
Speaker 1: he was in the league. If you go look up
Speaker 1: two fourteen, when Sanu was in there, he was he
Speaker 1: had the best games of his career when he was
Speaker 1: spotlighted as the number one guy. Well, we'll see how
Speaker 1: it plays out. Greg, Well, you guys weren't excited because
Speaker 1: it's the NFC North day and oh it's another NFC
Speaker 1: South day, and uh my underrated storyline? Is how great
Speaker 1: this division is. I know I've made this ramp before,
Speaker 1: so I'll keep it quick. But this is a division
Speaker 1: where the quarterback play. That's what we all like watching,
Speaker 1: at least what I like watching. This is your big concern, No,
Speaker 1: I thought we're an underrated story long I don't even
Speaker 1: know what's going on anymore, making it everyone else concern
Speaker 1: is that every why doesn't he just start underrated storylines?
Speaker 1: That's fair, the goa keep going, start interrupt just's I've
Speaker 1: said it all that any one of these teams could
Speaker 1: win the division. I believe that there's not a crazy
Speaker 1: difference between the top in the bottom. I think it's
Speaker 1: exciting to see what the Panthers do. Uh, that was
Speaker 1: gonna be my biggest concern. Let's let's put them all together.
Speaker 1: My concern about the Panthers like, how do they handle
Speaker 1: being a team that was fifteen and one? Things are
Speaker 1: gonna be harder this year. How do they handle a
Speaker 1: little adversity, whether it's Cam Newton or it's a team
Speaker 1: in general? They're not going fifteen and one. They have
Speaker 1: the easiest schedule on paper in the entire league last year,
Speaker 1: that's not happening again. The YODDA Division schedule is pretty
Speaker 1: tough for the NFC South. I think the whole division
Speaker 1: is gonna be better. I think it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: dog fight between all these teams. I think they'll be
Speaker 1: in the mix. How do the Panthers handle that? And
Speaker 1: that's why it's underrated? How good this division is? I
Speaker 1: think good. One right on my sheet here, emlosone is
Speaker 1: how do the Panthers handle season where everything doesn't go right?
Speaker 1: Because everything up until the Super Bowl went perfectly right
Speaker 1: for Carolina last year, and there's already been whispers in camp.
Speaker 1: Rivera said, I have to keep telling these guys that
Speaker 1: they don't just assume they're gonna get back to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. That it's something he's had to talk to
Speaker 1: a young team about. Is it's going to be the
Speaker 1: same weekly grind is and every other year minus all
Speaker 1: the good luck from last week. My counter to that
Speaker 1: is not everything went right. Super fifty went pretty wrong.
Speaker 1: But my point being there is that they still should
Speaker 1: be that driving force within the team. I don't think
Speaker 1: they'll go soft or anything like that. I think that
Speaker 1: could make that can fuel them and maybe they'll continue
Speaker 1: on the same time. Are they at the level where
Speaker 1: the Seahawks and the Patriots are at and the Cardinals
Speaker 1: maybe are trying to get to where they're one of
Speaker 1: the the teams each and every year. I think they're
Speaker 1: set up to possibly be that. That is hard to
Speaker 1: pull off. There's only a couple of teams like that there.
Speaker 1: I think just their defense is head and shoulders above
Speaker 1: everyone else in this division. I think that is what's
Speaker 1: gonna We'll get to it later when I say something,
Speaker 1: but that's that's where I think they're gonna be so
Speaker 1: much better than that Mark that was your underrated story line. Well,
Speaker 1: actually it blends perfectly into mind, say quick, because I
Speaker 1: what I put here was that Carolina has been the
Speaker 1: best drafting slash developing team in the league east of Arizona.
Speaker 1: They have and and it's it's it's functious Kelvin Benjamin,
Speaker 1: the way Cam Newton has grown with this coaching staff.
Speaker 1: They took Michael Ore and made him into a serviceable
Speaker 1: tackle for most of the season. You got k one
Speaker 1: short star at Luta Lailey. It's like they keep drafting
Speaker 1: players that produce. I didn't even gone through half the list.
Speaker 1: I mean, they have the chance to be and just
Speaker 1: as good as they were last season. Forget the record
Speaker 1: that they could be a better team if they wanted to.
Speaker 1: They're getting Benjamin back and the Panthers are legitimate. They
Speaker 1: I don't think that last year was a fluke on
Speaker 1: any level. No, I don't know. I'm not saying you do,
Speaker 1: but I think I think people are thinking, oh, you know,
Speaker 1: anyone can win this division, and it's like, I don't
Speaker 1: think so. I don't think anyone can win this division.
Speaker 1: I'm one of those people. I don't think. I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone. I don't agree with that at all. I
Speaker 1: think Carolina is gonna win this division. When you stumble
Speaker 1: by the way, when you're fifteen and one and you
Speaker 1: you come down to earth a little bit, you can
Speaker 1: still go twelve and four. I mean this tame is
Speaker 1: that as that talented, but they could not be as
Speaker 1: good as last year and still be good enough to
Speaker 1: get a number one seed. What is your underrated storyline,
Speaker 1: Kevin Patrick? I wrote two of them down. We've hit
Speaker 1: him both. My underrated storyline is, in contrast to mark
Speaker 1: your biggest concern, I think that Saint's offense could shred
Speaker 1: and I think they have the chance to kind of
Speaker 1: get back to that Saints level of recent years for
Speaker 1: the same reasons that Greg mentioned before. All these skill
Speaker 1: players suddenly around Drew Brees, and then if you look
Speaker 1: at Drew Brees and I I was with the majority
Speaker 1: opinion kind of entering last year that, okay, maybe this
Speaker 1: is kind of declined time a little bit for Drew Brees.
Speaker 1: But if you look after he came back from that
Speaker 1: shoulder injury the last three quarters of the season, he
Speaker 1: was a monster. He was just as productive as he's
Speaker 1: ever been. So you put him with this all this talent,
Speaker 1: and I think he has another couple of years in
Speaker 1: the tank of big time play. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: score a ton of points. I think they could score
Speaker 1: like over thirty points a game on average. Well, we
Speaker 1: thought we went last year at this time, we couldn't
Speaker 1: have been more excited about C. J. Spiller. And you
Speaker 1: know they're gonna be this run, heavy attack, mark Ingram
Speaker 1: and everyone else is just gonna blow teams up. And
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold on wait this time. But you know what,
Speaker 1: I think they're embracing who they really are, not this
Speaker 1: we now smashing what is it smashing dash? I mixing
Speaker 1: them up. But anyway, they're gonna air it out and
Speaker 1: they're gonna throw for a tuny yards. Breeze will go
Speaker 1: over five thousand again with forty touchdowns. I see that
Speaker 1: kind of seasondowns four bucks. They're an underrated storyline, barely
Speaker 1: get mentioned. Finally, pass Fresh could be better. Get to
Speaker 1: the playoffs, Mark, starting with you the song that best
Speaker 1: describes the state of the NFC South. I'm excited for yours. Mark.
Speaker 1: You know what this is just got to be about it.
Speaker 1: If that's coordinated, it should be. Who do you want
Speaker 1: to sex up? Why are all your songs about making
Speaker 1: love to people they're not one was called touch myself.
Speaker 1: There was no other person. All right, how about this?
Speaker 1: Because I don't agree with Greg's uh you know joan
Speaker 1: of our campaign about this is the most exciting division
Speaker 1: in football. It needs to get sexy. How about get
Speaker 1: a little sexier? How about show us and prove that
Speaker 1: you're the most exciting division. I don't buy that at all.
Speaker 1: Two of these teams playing domes, so they don't even
Speaker 1: exist to me and I outside of the Panthers, I mean,
Speaker 1: the three other teams to me just seem like a
Speaker 1: mishmash of the same thing. A bunch of seven and
Speaker 1: nine teams ready to disappoint us. What sexier sex up?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't the song be? I don't want to sex you up?
Speaker 1: I think I'm speaking to someone that they would want it, like,
Speaker 1: have that kind of relationship with I don't feel that
Speaker 1: way about the NFC South changed my opinion. It was
Speaker 1: an anti song, that's what you're saying. Yes, it was
Speaker 1: an anti theme. Kevin Patrick, your debut song the Best
Speaker 1: describes the NFC South. Come on, Swiss speech, turn this
Speaker 1: up in my headphones. That was Patrick barky flu way,
Speaker 1: No no if Patri was a rapper m I would
Speaker 1: love I Love d m X. There's there was a
Speaker 1: chance Patrick Sung would either be from Eminem or d
Speaker 1: m X. Today it was d m X all right now?
Speaker 1: Why because because there ain't no way anybody else is
Speaker 1: keeping up with the Panthers. There's no way they're just
Speaker 1: heading shoulders. That defense is going to carry the day.
Speaker 1: There's just no way. That ain't no way anybody else
Speaker 1: is gonna touch him in that division? Is that what
Speaker 1: the song is? Ain't no way? Nice? See that connects
Speaker 1: in a more linear fashion. Mark, not that yours didn't connect. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't need to take a shot because
Speaker 1: I don't. Maybe you know I was thinking about this
Speaker 1: division in a different way, from a different place. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know that's a good one, Patrick, because mine is
Speaker 1: very similar. Let's do some piggybacking. I am a God,
Speaker 1: I am God? Are we damn pressage? Are we damn manage?
Speaker 1: Is this Cam Newton? That's true? We haven't been talked
Speaker 1: about the defending MVP at all my life and a
Speaker 1: hand of God, y'all better quit playing with God. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is all about Cam Newton. Cam Newton, and he'll
Speaker 1: be the first to tell you is a god in
Speaker 1: the NFL right now. He is in his prime. As
Speaker 1: Mark said earlier, Devin Funches is ready to make the lead.
Speaker 1: Calvin Benjamin's back, Greg Olsen is still in a picture.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Stewarts still productive, productive, He can do it all.
Speaker 1: Do you know any touchdowns Cam Newton had regular season
Speaker 1: end post season last year combined passing and running it feeling,
Speaker 1: You're gonna tell us fifty touchdowns for this guy in
Speaker 1: all time, not just fantasy season, but quarterback season. And
Speaker 1: he didn't even really turn it on until the second
Speaker 1: half of the year. What happens, gentlemen, if Cam Newton
Speaker 1: picks up where he left off and does this for
Speaker 1: sixteen weeks and yes, not everything, not everything is going
Speaker 1: to go to script away did last year. Maybe, but
Speaker 1: I still think Cam Newton, when it's all said and done,
Speaker 1: is the type of special, transcendent type player that lifts
Speaker 1: a team single handedly. We're talking about the tears and
Speaker 1: the ESPN quarterback rankings, that can lift an entire team
Speaker 1: to him alone makes this team better than everybody else.
Speaker 1: That's why the Panthers will continue to rule the South.
Speaker 1: He's a god. I can't argue with that we're on.
Speaker 1: You could try what if gets hurt? He gets hit
Speaker 1: a lot. He gets six games against pretty unimposing defenses
Speaker 1: in this division. That's nice. Gods Gods don't hurt. God
Speaker 1: don't get hurt, or they don't hurt people. God's definitely
Speaker 1: hurt people. They do it all. Finally, Greg, well, you
Speaker 1: know I had to mark. It's not like this one
Speaker 1: little random choice here. That is what I got from
Speaker 1: the drought three by little way, and you have to
Speaker 1: go back to New Orleans because that's what Drew Brees
Speaker 1: is gonna have after this year. That is what he's got.
Speaker 1: He's gonna make the most crazy Tom Benson contract ever.
Speaker 1: When the Saints win this division this year and they
Speaker 1: bring it back to New or you really think that's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I do. I think they're gonna this defense
Speaker 1: they can win. Then I think talking about how bad
Speaker 1: their defense is, really I think their defense will be better.
Speaker 1: We don't need to get into a long uh spiel
Speaker 1: about it. I obviously the injuries to Sheldon Rankins and
Speaker 1: what's gone on recently not not helpful. But I think
Speaker 1: the offense is gonna be good enough. More more to
Speaker 1: the point, I think the Panther is gonna come back
Speaker 1: to Earth in ten eleven games, is gonna be right
Speaker 1: in the mix in this division. Okay, so the number
Speaker 1: to win the divisions eleven though, right, Yeah, ten eleven?
Speaker 1: I think that. Yeah, I mean what I just said,
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna score a lot of points. Is
Speaker 1: the defense gonna lead to them losing one a lot?
Speaker 1: I kind of see that happening still, But maybe their
Speaker 1: their defense is okay every third year, I think without
Speaker 1: all the Rob Bryan coverage bus where you can't even
Speaker 1: figure out what the play call is, the secondary actually
Speaker 1: looks pretty decent on paper, Delvin bro I mean, the
Speaker 1: point is that Breeze is gonna light the world on fire,
Speaker 1: like you said, and and probably they're gonna give him wait,
Speaker 1: almost too much money because they let this contract ride
Speaker 1: out at the end of his career. Well, that would
Speaker 1: be a very Mickey Loomis thing to do. Is he's
Speaker 1: attempting to run the New Orleans Pelicans at the same time.
Speaker 1: I almost out a giant contractor Drew Brees when he's
Speaker 1: about to turn I almost went with a pretty awful
Speaker 1: song by Little Wayne where he where he actually raps
Speaker 1: about Drew Brees and Marcus Colston. I think Rhys the
Speaker 1: he rhymes expensive with Tom Benson, which I like, at
Speaker 1: least it's not the album where he's playing guitar um. Alright,
Speaker 1: anybody else see a playoff more than one playoff team
Speaker 1: coming out of this division? I don't, do, you see
Speaker 1: I do? I think the Panthers the Saints. For me,
Speaker 1: it would be the Bucks and the Panthers, but I don't.
Speaker 1: I think it's just Carolina. Okay, alright, good division talk, guys. Uh.
Speaker 1: Next up, either tomorrow Thursday or early next week, we
Speaker 1: will tackle the NFC West in our final preview of
Speaker 1: the National Football Conference. That's it for today's show. Thanks
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