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Speaker 1: the vapors. Welcome back to another edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Kansas, and I
Speaker 1: am joined by a room fild Here I was Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys, Hey, welcome
Speaker 1: back to Mark a feeling. I feel fine. I just
Speaker 1: got a Now you know that's great. I didn't even
Speaker 1: listen to the beginning of the last show, but I
Speaker 1: knew that from a couple of Twitter mentions that you
Speaker 1: turned what was a very three days into me into
Speaker 1: a bit so I knew as soon as someone was sick,
Speaker 1: Dan's gonna go, oh, this will be great for the show.
Speaker 1: But now don't you think that maybe if you were
Speaker 1: going to lob something like that an accusation, that you
Speaker 1: should at least listen, not at all. But no, we
Speaker 1: we are no longer humans with lives and happiness and
Speaker 1: up and Dad's We are just players in the dan
Speaker 1: hands this drama. The bits were just part of the bit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but we're also ignoring the fact that I did have
Speaker 1: real um I was looking out for I hope Mark
Speaker 1: gets better. How many times did I say that? Like
Speaker 1: multiple times. I don't doubt that, but I what I
Speaker 1: received on you know, online, through various sources, was that
Speaker 1: you're killing my diet. You're telling me I need to
Speaker 1: change the way I operate. I mean, that's absurd. I
Speaker 1: simply question whether meat would help whatever you're doing in
Speaker 1: the situation that I was in, Like bringing me a
Speaker 1: plate of meat would have done. I don't know what
Speaker 1: sort of you know, medical person you think you are,
Speaker 1: but that would have been the last thing that I needed.
Speaker 1: Well I did at that time. I was like to
Speaker 1: get him some antibiotics and a plate of meat. I
Speaker 1: wasn't saying that, um that that was I just wondered
Speaker 1: if that maybe that would help. And I'm happy you're bad.
Speaker 1: I have I wonder things too, you do you wonder things?
Speaker 1: A lot of things. We're happy to have you back, though,
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk about the people you got
Speaker 1: to look out for? Colleen had a huge grin on
Speaker 1: her face when when the illness came up. She was
Speaker 1: looking mighty comfortable in that chair. Well, listen, I mean
Speaker 1: if this all came to a very quick end, my
Speaker 1: life would go on you. You look comfortable in your
Speaker 1: new array of clothes that you've brought from Boca Rattan.
Speaker 1: That's I came back on a lot of good outfits. Well,
Speaker 1: because Conroar was typically the person that would go to
Speaker 1: that trip with me and annual meet could not be
Speaker 1: more excited at any event about the possibility of free gear.
Speaker 1: And this was three bags last sure it was. It
Speaker 1: was three bags and fellow journalists hating anyone from the
Speaker 1: NFL because you only get it if you're from the
Speaker 1: NFL understandably looking at me like you know, I was
Speaker 1: some schill. So you have a whole new wardrobe though
Speaker 1: of work. A lot of it is stuff that I'm
Speaker 1: going to be giving away because it's things that just
Speaker 1: don't I'm not sure about didn't only fit my wardrobe
Speaker 1: type style. Really, here's a little secret. Because we're also underpaid,
Speaker 1: we're happy to wear free stuff. Let speak for yourself. Yes,
Speaker 1: we get it. You're underpaid. Where did where we have
Speaker 1: to with a siren the West, I'm underpaid, siren efforting.
Speaker 1: We have to find a perfect one for it. All right,
Speaker 1: on today's show, we are going to uh talk about
Speaker 1: uh the divisions of the NFL. Uh because there are
Speaker 1: two teams sixteen teams in each conference eight divisions eight
Speaker 1: divided by two is far? So four in each conference
Speaker 1: eight overall? Is that correct? That that is correct? Confirmed?
Speaker 1: Got a little loss in the numbers there, but I
Speaker 1: made my way out. So there used to be six divisions,
Speaker 1: remember that vaguely? Yeah, well, the two thousand two we realigned.
Speaker 1: I remember. Well. There was also the weird year where
Speaker 1: there were thirty one teams in the a f C
Speaker 1: Central I believe at the time before they became the
Speaker 1: North had six teams in it. Twelve of your games.
Speaker 1: A lot of teams. Uh So, Anyway, the division power rankings,
Speaker 1: which is a post up on around the NFL greg
Speaker 1: you put great effort into it. Speaking of efforting, you
Speaker 1: efforted on that post very well and delivered a hammer.
Speaker 1: It is a yearly column that we've done, and I
Speaker 1: guess we don't have many traditions, but we've managed traditions,
Speaker 1: but ran well one that goes back five years. We
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of traditions that have kept up
Speaker 1: since two thousand and twelve, which was the first full
Speaker 1: off season of Around the NFL, but we've randomly put
Speaker 1: out a division power rankings around this time every year,
Speaker 1: and without getting into too much before we actually talk
Speaker 1: about it in earnest, this is a year of change, potentially,
Speaker 1: at least in our opinions, a lot of big shape
Speaker 1: of the divisions. So we're gonna talk about that, and
Speaker 1: of course we're gonna do some news um before we
Speaker 1: throw it to Brandon to get into the news. Everybody's
Speaker 1: doing a great job on our subreddit. By the way,
Speaker 1: the around the NFL subreddit, which west the numbers are
Speaker 1: going through the roof. I think you had said that
Speaker 1: they had really been multiplying over at the subreddit which
Speaker 1: you were diving into. Yeah, there were like six people
Speaker 1: on there and now there's probably like seventy three. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's no, I think there's there's more than that. I
Speaker 1: didn't even though if that was a joke or not.
Speaker 1: West on Fire right now, while while we're talking, you know,
Speaker 1: are our people contributing? You got the subreddit? I think
Speaker 1: we should send it out there because a lot of
Speaker 1: podcasts do this every podcast we don't do it, and
Speaker 1: that it really helps us to leave some comments and
Speaker 1: ratings on the old iTunes. That's I want to see
Speaker 1: our little ranking and the because it's not about how
Speaker 1: many people listen to us. A lot of people listen
Speaker 1: to us, but they based it on how many comments
Speaker 1: are left. We're lagging a little bit on the comments.
Speaker 1: So you know, if you haven't left the comment there,
Speaker 1: go go leave one. Let's let's lean into the power
Speaker 1: of our listenership here, because I'm looking at that subreddit.
Speaker 1: We out now have over four people on that and
Speaker 1: it was I think in the double digits at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the week, so a lot of people are
Speaker 1: flocking there. Uh reddit dot com, slash r slash around
Speaker 1: the NFL and on iTunes. Let's see if our listenership
Speaker 1: leans into a little bit with uh, what is it
Speaker 1: likes or what is it the five star ratings? Some comments.
Speaker 1: Let's see what we can bump us up the old
Speaker 1: What happens, Just start subscribing on like fifteen different devices.
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Speaker 1: I don't mean, I mean borrow them. That's what the
Speaker 1: listener wants, you know. They eight divvy out important time
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Speaker 1: some news, Brandon, this is why you left you. It
Speaker 1: is now March, and as things stand, the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: champion Denver Broncos, they don't become defending Super Bowl champions
Speaker 1: until the season starts right right now, they're just super
Speaker 1: Bowl champions. Or is it a league new year? Uh?
Speaker 1: A new league here? So it already is defending superre
Speaker 1: the super Bowl champion. I just think they're the super
Speaker 1: Bow Bowl champion. I think you're right. Once they start
Speaker 1: playing games than they're defending. Okay, the Super Bowl champion
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos. As of March thirty, their starting quarterback is
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez. This is something that's and he doesn't have
Speaker 1: any competition. It's just him. It's just him. Uh. It's
Speaker 1: kind of a shot of Trevor Simeon. Yeah, it was intended.
Speaker 1: Doesn't the word Simeon mean monkey? Like? Yes, it is right.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I believe it. Um, so you're saying that,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I believe it doesn't help But the
Speaker 1: word simeon, that doesn't help us because not an advanced
Speaker 1: species is what you're saying. Compared to other than the
Speaker 1: derivation of him during super Bowl week and quite a
Speaker 1: nice had to ask him a question or two about
Speaker 1: something else and couldn't have been nicer. Didn't seem like
Speaker 1: an imposing athlete to me, but good for him. Did
Speaker 1: get one regular season snap, he lost the yard. I
Speaker 1: believe he probably was. It was was that Neil out
Speaker 1: But you did a good job with that. So I
Speaker 1: bring that up because it's surprising because I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people if you would have asked the football world, um,
Speaker 1: you know, three weeks ago, if you know Colin Kaepernick
Speaker 1: or some other solution would be in Denver's building by now,
Speaker 1: people would have thought something other but Mark Sanchez. But
Speaker 1: here we are and uh. On Tuesday's edition of NFL
Speaker 1: Total Access on NFL Network, Ian rapp Report reported that
Speaker 1: the Broncos um are interested in Josh McCown, who is
Speaker 1: currently a member of the Cleveland Browns, but perhaps not
Speaker 1: for long, as well as Brian Hoyer. So, Wes you
Speaker 1: wrote this piece, Um, where where is this interest in
Speaker 1: terms of serious Is it more just these are the
Speaker 1: guys they're being connected to them, or is this a
Speaker 1: real thing? Well, Dan, I would point back to you
Speaker 1: that you wrote a post a couple of days ago
Speaker 1: saying I don't remember Josh McCown is on the trade
Speaker 1: trade block and Ian said on Tuesday's show that they
Speaker 1: are Browns are certainly looking to either deal McCown or
Speaker 1: cut him. So I think that, you know, maybe teams
Speaker 1: are waiting him out to see if he gets cut.
Speaker 1: But at this point, I lead this column with McCown
Speaker 1: instead of Howyer, because to me, McCown can be an
Speaker 1: upgrade on Sanchez and Howyer cannot. I just don't see
Speaker 1: Horror Hoyer as quite as relevant as a starting quarterback
Speaker 1: as Josh McCown. You could argue that McCown coming off
Speaker 1: last season any overall that offense was awful, but McCown
Speaker 1: had a couple of games took the Broncos to overtime
Speaker 1: last season, so that coaching staff saw him in that.
Speaker 1: But McCown probably could equal, if not be better than
Speaker 1: r G three if you play him for sixteen games.
Speaker 1: I think he's way better than so I don't think
Speaker 1: it's a huge problem for Denver, but if they're looking,
Speaker 1: I think they have to draft someone too. Well, they
Speaker 1: know these guys will be out there. Those guys are
Speaker 1: they're not going anywhere, They're going to be cut or
Speaker 1: if they have to give up a seventh round pick
Speaker 1: in the drive, It's not like you have to jump
Speaker 1: up and go get him. Bryan Bryan Hoyer and Sanche's
Speaker 1: feel very duplicative. Why bother have them both? Maybe you
Speaker 1: could even maybe say the same for McCay. I know
Speaker 1: you love mc but how old is he now? He's
Speaker 1: thirty sick. You said you can't teach RG three how
Speaker 1: to avoid injuries. Josh McCown is in the Hall of
Speaker 1: Fame of of of before. He's equally as reckless as
Speaker 1: r G three. But if you if you surround him
Speaker 1: with the mar I think he enjoys it. I think
Speaker 1: he kind of likes to get in. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: think r G three's lack of instincts equals that. Are
Speaker 1: you thinking of his head first, helicopters, he's going for
Speaker 1: you're coming out me up account? Yeah. I think if
Speaker 1: you surround him with the Broncos talent, what's there on
Speaker 1: that roster? I mean, is he worse than Brock Osweiler
Speaker 1: as a starting NFL quarterback? I don't think he is. Right.
Speaker 1: It's it speaks to the situation that the that the
Speaker 1: um Bronco's find themselves in now, because now you're either
Speaker 1: choosing between if you don't get Colin Kaepernick and we're
Speaker 1: gonna talk on him, talk about him in a little bit.
Speaker 1: But if you don't have Colin Kaepernick, who is no
Speaker 1: gimme anyway like that, he would be a guy that
Speaker 1: would lead you in a positive or you're gonna choose
Speaker 1: between Mark Sanchez or Josh McCown, a thirty six year
Speaker 1: old journeyman who and I know he's been on bad teams,
Speaker 1: but is two in seventeen over his least two years
Speaker 1: as a starter, has put up some decent numbers of times,
Speaker 1: but obviously is not a great quarterback either. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's okay maybe, but they're not gonna have a good
Speaker 1: quarterback this year. And even if they draft so last
Speaker 1: year though, that's what they would say to you. At
Speaker 1: least they're trying to boy Peyton Manning. He's also he's
Speaker 1: basically a coach on the field. You're not gonna get
Speaker 1: that with Brian Hoyer. We also have a first or
Speaker 1: second round pick to be named later, and I at
Speaker 1: this point I would be shocked if they do not
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback with one of their first two picks.
Speaker 1: And I'm not a draft expert, but everyone seems to
Speaker 1: say this is a great draft for them to have
Speaker 1: a late first or second round pick, because there's you know,
Speaker 1: there's you know, maybe packs and lynches in there. They'd
Speaker 1: have to trade up, but there are five or six
Speaker 1: guys that people think are worth a second round. How
Speaker 1: many teams people ripped those guys to shreds. Right, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna be the top to your guys. And and
Speaker 1: how many times has defending Super Bowl champion went back
Speaker 1: to back with a rookie quarterback. It's just not something
Speaker 1: that happens. It's they're in a bad spot. There is
Speaker 1: a quarterback sitting out there that won ten games last year.
Speaker 1: They seem to be completely disinterested by Ryan Fitzpatrick. So
Speaker 1: it's like, I'm with you, I've been I thought you
Speaker 1: were talking about Brian Hoyer. He almost won ten games.
Speaker 1: You have me Josh McCown over both of those guys. Uh,
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that plays out. And then on
Speaker 1: the Colin Kaepernick front, rap Sheet reported Monday night that
Speaker 1: the forty Niners won't cut the quarterback. We knew this
Speaker 1: before his contract becomes fully guaranteed in April one, but
Speaker 1: rapp report also added the de Niners will not trade
Speaker 1: Kaepernick unless they are quote blown away by an offer.
Speaker 1: And you know, the Broncos are the only real suitor here,
Speaker 1: you would think unless the Jets got involved, and I
Speaker 1: don't think that's gonna happen. Uh, it's really and I
Speaker 1: think you said this, Greg earlier in the week. It's
Speaker 1: starting to look like there's a very real chance Colin
Speaker 1: Kaepernick is on the Niners, unless this is just posturing,
Speaker 1: which could be as well. I don't think it's posting
Speaker 1: by the Niners. I think Kaepernick is gonna have to
Speaker 1: come to a point where he said he looks at
Speaker 1: the situation and realizes, I'm not this isn't gonna happen
Speaker 1: for me. Can I play for this team? He clearly
Speaker 1: doesn't want to play for them. I now buy the
Speaker 1: fact that they do want him, that they've wanted him
Speaker 1: all along, but he came and hit them with this
Speaker 1: trade request, and what are you gonna do. It's like
Speaker 1: if a guy comes to and tells you he doesn't
Speaker 1: want to be your quarterback, you're You're in a tough
Speaker 1: spot at some point. And I think that point is
Speaker 1: after the draft, Kaepernick is gonna decide do I want
Speaker 1: to keep playing football? Do I want to get paid
Speaker 1: twelve million dollars this year? If he doesn't get traded,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna have many options. Yeah. I mean coaches
Speaker 1: and gms, when you ask about players that don't want
Speaker 1: to be on a team, they're the typically the move
Speaker 1: is not if it's not a money thing to not
Speaker 1: to try to get a guy that doesn't want to
Speaker 1: be in the building. Let's maybe we can get him
Speaker 1: to change his mind over the course of the next
Speaker 1: four or five months and he can be our quarterback.
Speaker 1: Everything you've heard about Kaepernick because there are leadership issues
Speaker 1: at times with him too. You don't want to mobi
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick walking around your building when you've got Chip
Speaker 1: Kelly trying to like re establish his credentials as a coach.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. It's a different position than other positions.
Speaker 1: Look at how this roster has changed just in the
Speaker 1: last two years since since Hardball left. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: unwatchable this year. They're gonna be there. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: right there with the Browns. Is the worst roster in
Speaker 1: the NFL, and then add a quarterback who doesn't even
Speaker 1: want to be there. I still think Colin Kaepernick is
Speaker 1: the Week one starter for the Broncos because it makes
Speaker 1: too much sense to me. So all this stuff that's
Speaker 1: leading up into the draft, we're just filling. We're filling
Speaker 1: the vacuum with some sort of news because we've got
Speaker 1: nothing right now. I don't mean, we shouldn't talk about it.
Speaker 1: It's legitimate news, it's and it's interesting. But the logic
Speaker 1: behind the whole situation that the forty Niners, on some level,
Speaker 1: we know they're willing to trade Colin Kaepernick. They said
Speaker 1: they will if they're blown away. On some level we
Speaker 1: know the Broncos are interested. They were willing to give
Speaker 1: up a fourth round pick. The money doesn't seem that crazy.
Speaker 1: It's just too logical not to happen. It happens on
Speaker 1: draft week absolutely, because only the Niners could have Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz or Jared goff is your starting quarterback. They're in
Speaker 1: great position to draft one of those guys. And then
Speaker 1: the whole Colin Kaepernick thing is superfluous. Um. By the way,
Speaker 1: the Niners were the luckiest five and eleven team in
Speaker 1: the league last year. They can easily they could have
Speaker 1: easily been a two and fourteen team a year ago.
Speaker 1: So if they take a step back from where they
Speaker 1: were last year, yikes. Mark, do you remember a man
Speaker 1: by the name of Tim Tebow? Yeah, rings a bell?
Speaker 1: What are your general memories of him? If you had
Speaker 1: to give somebody like a fifteen second fifteen to thirty
Speaker 1: second explainer about who. I remember that He rose to
Speaker 1: massive popularity during an era where you and I specifically
Speaker 1: were charged with writing probably six to seven Tim Tebow
Speaker 1: posts each a week, and they involved dating Kim Kardashian
Speaker 1: maybe and Katie Perry. It was a bad time for
Speaker 1: us in terms of what we were tasked with writing.
Speaker 1: Dark days. Yes, before I arrive, I don't want this.
Speaker 1: This was I was not responsible pre Rosenthal, but we
Speaker 1: chased everything attached to you. But he caught that out there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they called Manning the sheriff. I was the sheriff. Get
Speaker 1: that trash out of there. Uh when I come in? Wow,
Speaker 1: that would that would call for It's about me. You
Speaker 1: know what. My first post at NFL dot com was
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow landing spots on an airplane. You were a story. Wow,
Speaker 1: scared Dan and I both. I'll never forget that. How
Speaker 1: how things going, by the way, Greg, Now you're leaving
Speaker 1: for mother Japan tomorrow? Correct? Well, it's not my mother.
Speaker 1: I am. I'm leaving on Thursday, Uh, which is tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Flight looking forward to it. You came into the office
Speaker 1: a little later today, and I'm not gonna lie. There
Speaker 1: were some questions about whether you were on a one
Speaker 1: last vender before the flight. That is not true. Things
Speaker 1: have calmed down, making some play ends. We're getting ready
Speaker 1: to leave. But yeah, it's been fun. It's been a
Speaker 1: fun eight days of bachelorhood. What are you gonna do
Speaker 1: on that airplane? It's what's free drinks? It's international flight? Right?
Speaker 1: Are you just gonna like be a good boy and
Speaker 1: read like three books? Be a good boy? What are
Speaker 1: you like that? I want to know. You sound like
Speaker 1: a sixth grade bully. Are you gonna be like that? Well?
Speaker 1: I want to go out of the school, gonna be
Speaker 1: your big boy. Read You're in the books with your friends. Well,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Well, I'm going with a
Speaker 1: buddy with Anthony. Oh, forget it, You're you guys are
Speaker 1: gonna be chaos. Yeah, well I didn't know that. We'll
Speaker 1: have some drinks, watch some movies. I'm sure comes along.
Speaker 1: It's a long time Anthony. Justin Nick, the co host
Speaker 1: of The Rosenthal and Justin Nick Vanity Project, The Functor
Speaker 1: on Hiatus or Funky Wait you take your other podcast
Speaker 1: crew to Japan with you? Wow? What I'm I'm kind
Speaker 1: of having a hard time with What's happening here. Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm not paying for it. The NFL is that would
Speaker 1: be cool to do a show from Japan. Maybe on
Speaker 1: this flight you guys can talk about. Oh man, that
Speaker 1: was really special. But we had going. Let's we should
Speaker 1: we should bring it back, you know when I have
Speaker 1: some time. When my tours over, that was all that
Speaker 1: was all up in the air, you know on our
Speaker 1: finale it's possible it could come back. Oh you left
Speaker 1: it with a cliffhanger. Well not necessarily, but it's it's
Speaker 1: that's that's what you do in business. Yeah, well there's
Speaker 1: a season one that show. Anyway. So Tim Tebow, yes,
Speaker 1: a former NFL quarterback. You're really a famous college quarterback
Speaker 1: if you really want to take a bigger step back.
Speaker 1: Who then, uh struggled in the NFL, with the exception
Speaker 1: of one quirky little ride with the Denver Broncos in
Speaker 1: two thousand eleven. But he's still in the news occasionally
Speaker 1: because he's he's been looking for a job. The Patriots
Speaker 1: signed him and cut him, the Eagles signed him and
Speaker 1: cut him. Um, he still holds out hope. He's almost
Speaker 1: twenty nine years old now. He was interviewed at a
Speaker 1: charity event um on Wednesday or on Tuesday. Excuse me
Speaker 1: about and I want to I asked Brenda to cut
Speaker 1: this whole thing. Listen to this woman for Fox and Friends.
Speaker 1: Her name is Annsley Earhart. I mean, listen to the fawning.
Speaker 1: Just this is the Tim Tebow brings out in people
Speaker 1: about a potential future in politics. And I thought about politics.
Speaker 1: It's been hasn't a world when I'm watching everything from
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know in this time in my life.
Speaker 1: You know, anyway, you know there's a chance you can
Speaker 1: make a difference Sunday and something then that that would
Speaker 1: be intriguing. Yeah, Anley fawnny come back to us. Wait
Speaker 1: is that a reporter? Is she just like I think
Speaker 1: she's some type of correspondent for Fox Fox News. A
Speaker 1: little troubling. So you're saying the political journalism in this
Speaker 1: country not always taken to be taken too seriously. That seemed,
Speaker 1: even by the standards of you know, tabloaid journalism, to
Speaker 1: be a little wild. But uh well, Timmy had more
Speaker 1: substantive info in that interview than than some of these
Speaker 1: debates and whatnot. I mean he could fit right in. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't think I go to Tim Tebow for substantive info.
Speaker 1: That's a thing. I mean, let's be fair. Is you
Speaker 1: think Tim Tebow is a leader of you know people, well,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people look up to him.
Speaker 1: I think what he would want to do. I think
Speaker 1: politics is probably the worst route in this country right
Speaker 1: now to actually try to help people directly. Tim Tebow
Speaker 1: could do a lot better work by doing something other
Speaker 1: than trying to go into public office. I didn't would
Speaker 1: be a better rap for Timmy to go mark. I
Speaker 1: think Connrore nailed it on our slack channel this morning,
Speaker 1: or it wasn't yesterday. Well on I AM where he
Speaker 1: talked about h him being kind of like a public speaker.
Speaker 1: But he's also he's always had charities. He grew up,
Speaker 1: his family was involved in all missions and stuff. Just
Speaker 1: keep doing that. That's what he's good at. And I
Speaker 1: don't think politics is a is a dirty road for
Speaker 1: Tebow to go down. I don't think Tim Tebow knows
Speaker 1: what he doesn't know. M sounds like a politician maybe, oh,
Speaker 1: Greg paraphrasing Donald Rumsfeld. There are known knowns things that
Speaker 1: we know we know well, there are non unknowns we
Speaker 1: know there are things that we don't know, and there
Speaker 1: are unknown unknowns what we don't know that we don't know.
Speaker 1: And Tim Tebow was raised in a fundamentalist religion and
Speaker 1: then played football as a quarterback, not an area where
Speaker 1: you're asking a lot of questions. I think the answers
Speaker 1: have been provided for him in life. He hasn't had
Speaker 1: to search for them. I don't think that's what I've
Speaker 1: won in a political leader, me personally, And who are
Speaker 1: you voting for this? I'm not not at liberty to
Speaker 1: say I think I'm gonna play defense against Trump, though, Okay,
Speaker 1: I think that's a strategy that a lot of people
Speaker 1: believe it. We'll see what happens more on the politic
Speaker 1: called podcast Got Me Up later this year. Back to football,
Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals have lost some notable players to uh
Speaker 1: free agency. UH Now they're making some signings, starting with
Speaker 1: former Cleveland Browns linebacker Carlos Dansby, who, after being released
Speaker 1: by the Browns earlier this month, told Cleveland dot Com quote,
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Bengals are licking their chops right now.
Speaker 1: And he was right. They were licking their chops because
Speaker 1: Cincinnati signed the linebacker. Uh to a deal. Uh. In
Speaker 1: other news, the Bengals um lost, of course, Mohammed Sanu
Speaker 1: uh to the Falcons and Marvin Jones to the Lions
Speaker 1: their wide receivers. They signed a wide receiver on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: Brandon LaFell, the fame, the former Patriots pass catcher who
Speaker 1: did have people forgets a seventy four catch season uh
Speaker 1: two seasons ago. Last year was an injury Martin mess
Speaker 1: with a lot of drops and uh really uh, some
Speaker 1: flaws in his game became apparent. But the Bengals are
Speaker 1: going bargain hunting with Brandon LaFell. West your thoughts, well,
Speaker 1: you raised the point that he seventy four catches, nine
Speaker 1: fifty three yards and seven touchdowns for a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: team two years ago. Last year, he was never right,
Speaker 1: He had the foot injury, came back late. It just
Speaker 1: seemed like he never was in sync. And Greg has
Speaker 1: said multiple times that deep ball to Brandon LaFell was
Speaker 1: the least effective playing football last year. I think Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton to Brandon LaFell would be maybe even more, maybe
Speaker 1: even less effective. But he's a starter. These are two
Speaker 1: guys who are starting Week one at this point. I
Speaker 1: don't think LaFell will still be a starter by week one. Necessarily.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna draft multiple wide receivers, just like
Speaker 1: they did with Sanow and Jones, and see how those
Speaker 1: guys can fit in. But at this point he's their
Speaker 1: number two because it is insanely thin. They needed a
Speaker 1: veteran just to plug in there. And then you have Dansby,
Speaker 1: who I would think would be starting either over a J.
Speaker 1: Hawker certainly while perfect, suspended definitely during perfect. And I
Speaker 1: think with with Dansby is not the guy who was
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. And I mean, it's like
Speaker 1: Cleveland didn't lose much by letting him go, but he's
Speaker 1: kind of an interesting player to fit into. I think
Speaker 1: he's the oldest Bengal already oldest player on the roster.
Speaker 1: And one thing that Dansby has always been is like
Speaker 1: a great locker room guy. And it's not a bad
Speaker 1: addition on that front, I don't. It's just interesting to
Speaker 1: me that he knew weeks ago that the Bengals of
Speaker 1: all teams would be well he played. It wasn't Kevin
Speaker 1: Coyle the defensive coordinator, or he was on the defensive
Speaker 1: in Miami, was in Miami and now he's back in Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing there may have been that's usually communication. Yeah,
Speaker 1: usually it works. Uh. Twenty years ago this week, Uh,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, the Baltimore franchise left Cleveland. And what part
Speaker 1: of the deal was they could not Art Model could
Speaker 1: not take the Brown's name right, the color scheme, the
Speaker 1: uniform and the history of the team that was part
Speaker 1: of the concession that was made. That had also not originally,
Speaker 1: but it was they fought for that eventually city So
Speaker 1: when Model got to Baltimore, he had to start from scratch.
Speaker 1: Twenty years ago, on Tuesday, the Ravens were selected as
Speaker 1: the team name. Uh. It was a telephone pole. I
Speaker 1: want you to think these other names? What what could
Speaker 1: have been? Guys? Uh, the Baltimore Bulldogs. That was Art
Speaker 1: Model's favorite choice, a reference to one of the original
Speaker 1: NFL franchises, the Baltimore Americans. Another option, bring to a train,
Speaker 1: a Baltimore to Ohio train. Uh, the American, the Mustangs,
Speaker 1: which Johnny and Ius got behind, and United's Famously, when
Speaker 1: the Ravens were named, had this to say, I don't
Speaker 1: like it. I don't think it has any association with football.
Speaker 1: The Ravens was, of course a nod to Edgar Allan Poe,
Speaker 1: one of Baltimore's famed uh residents, who wrote The raven
Speaker 1: one of the most famous writers in American history. Yes,
Speaker 1: and mark your thoughts on this well. At an interesting
Speaker 1: point yesterday, I don't think I'm allowed to say what
Speaker 1: my initial point was. You can say it. I think
Speaker 1: you can just say it. I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1: I mean, for I've always heard that they basically named
Speaker 1: their franchise after a Baltimore area poet that slept with
Speaker 1: his sister. So your take your questioning the Carotter a
Speaker 1: little bit more of Listen, first of all, any naming
Speaker 1: process and this isn't this is. It's kind of a
Speaker 1: cool name, though, doesn't it work pretty well? Ravens. I
Speaker 1: think it's a great Ravens is not a but the
Speaker 1: idea that you would name yourself the Americans in an
Speaker 1: American sport with thirty two other American teams, that's a
Speaker 1: bit precious that no one else might could have been.
Speaker 1: What Martin Modell offered five million dollars to Jim Mercy
Speaker 1: for the name Cults interesting because they have been they
Speaker 1: were one of the most story franchises in NFL history,
Speaker 1: And if any one has ever seen the movie Diner
Speaker 1: knows how much the Baltimore Raven or the Baltimore Colts
Speaker 1: meant to that area. Jim Say reportedly wanted twenty five
Speaker 1: or fifty million for the name, not five million. That
Speaker 1: is West. That's your Wheelhouse nineteen eighty two Cinema. Diner
Speaker 1: is one of the great movies. Signer is a fantastic movie.
Speaker 1: That's and I wasn't saying it wasn't well down. The
Speaker 1: same guy who did the thirty for thirty on the
Speaker 1: Colts marching band, The Colts gets no more fever pitch
Speaker 1: in that movie they win. A guy is about to
Speaker 1: marry this girl, and for her to get married to him,
Speaker 1: she has she has to go through like an intricate
Speaker 1: like forty question or something quiz on the cults. And
Speaker 1: I believe she fails, or she does she pass at
Speaker 1: the very end, but I think she just barely. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's like he would not marry or if she
Speaker 1: doesn't pass. Mean, speaking of great sports related movies, you
Speaker 1: said it fever pitch. The chemistry you just can't you
Speaker 1: can't create. There's a British version with Colin Firth. No,
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. That movie was terrible, but the book about
Speaker 1: is one of the top ten sports books about time.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it in there. Pitch. The American version
Speaker 1: was based on the two thousand four Red, which was
Speaker 1: as a Yankee fan, the lowest moment was the two
Speaker 1: thousand four Alcs when they blew a three old lead.
Speaker 1: But two thousand four the movies like Fever, Pitch and
Speaker 1: the way Red Sox fans comported themselves started to make
Speaker 1: things feel a little bit better because you guys were
Speaker 1: just poisoning your own well and that, yeah, you guys
Speaker 1: being greg. It really ruined things with the multiple world
Speaker 1: series they want after that. Just about how people viewed you.
Speaker 1: It's not idea for a future podcast. Uh. If you
Speaker 1: were a commissioner of sports for a day, I would
Speaker 1: rename Baltimore the Colts and number one on the list
Speaker 1: like this, the Utah Jazz. I'm sorry you give the
Speaker 1: Jazz back to the Saints. It's or back to New Orleans.
Speaker 1: It's the most poorly named team of all time. The
Speaker 1: Lakers should be in Minnesota. What what do they Indian? Okay,
Speaker 1: I like that. What about Indian apples, Well, and they
Speaker 1: can be anything because you know their history didn't start
Speaker 1: l What about the Lakers, That's what I'm saying. The
Speaker 1: Lakers belong in Minneapolis and the Dodgers, Um, that's a
Speaker 1: good idea in l A. Yeah, they do geographical realignments.
Speaker 1: They need to do a name realign That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We should do. A Commissioner of Sports for give the
Speaker 1: jazz back to the Pelicans. So he said, give the
Speaker 1: jazz back to New Orleans. Yeah, the boss has gone
Speaker 1: next week, so this might be I mean, how you
Speaker 1: guys should do it tomorrow. If this is the best
Speaker 1: we can do for news today, think that tomorrow. Just
Speaker 1: the side of the Times. By the way, how they
Speaker 1: determined that the Ravens would be the team name a
Speaker 1: telephone poll conducted by the Baltimore Sun. Very odd. I
Speaker 1: was living in the area when that happened, and I
Speaker 1: had plans to the entire operation. That's what's happening in
Speaker 1: the news. All right, So there we go. Let's get
Speaker 1: into it. Division power rankings. Greg wrote up the piece.
Speaker 1: Does it have a vanity or all? All right? You
Speaker 1: can find it on Google if you do NFL dot
Speaker 1: Com colon and then put it in quotes two thousand
Speaker 1: six NFL division power rankings. You'll get it. That's the
Speaker 1: best NFL dot Com slash. Rosenthal, that would that's a
Speaker 1: great one too. Greg wrote a nice piece here, Greg,
Speaker 1: why don't you set it up for us exactly how
Speaker 1: this all works. We've been doing it every year. Well,
Speaker 1: the six around the NFL writers, the four in this room.
Speaker 1: And then we've got Kevin Patrick coming at you from
Speaker 1: Detroit lifting his weights. He sent in his top eight divisions.
Speaker 1: Connor Or sent in his top eight divisions. Everyone here did,
Speaker 1: and you add it all up in a complicated mathematical
Speaker 1: stew add up the numbers, and you see who's on top,
Speaker 1: who's on bottom. Some definite trends emerged this year. Four
Speaker 1: different divisions got the votes for top Division. A lot
Speaker 1: of disagreement this year. It was a tough one. I
Speaker 1: feel like it's a very balanced league right now. So
Speaker 1: this is why it's tricky, because there's for every division
Speaker 1: where you're gonna, oh, well, this is the best division
Speaker 1: in football, there's some bum team at the bottom of
Speaker 1: the standings that you have to factor in because you
Speaker 1: want to and we'll get we'll get into it. But
Speaker 1: I I tend to lean towards the divisions that were
Speaker 1: a little more balanced, even if they didn't have the
Speaker 1: best teams because there were no tomato cans. I I
Speaker 1: took that into effect, but that did not change the
Speaker 1: number one division on the rank on the on the board,
Speaker 1: which has right now, you know, one of the biggest
Speaker 1: tomato cans in the Cleveland Browns. The a f C
Speaker 1: North rises to the top. The NFC West was our
Speaker 1: top division for three straight years. Uh. A f C
Speaker 1: North I looked back, was always in the top three,
Speaker 1: top three or four, and now we put it as
Speaker 1: number one. I think it makes sense because to me,
Speaker 1: they have three teams that could make the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That's giving the Ravens a lot of credit. But I
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me if the Ravens made the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: So I think that's what helped out the a f
Speaker 1: C North. I don't know if any other divisions where
Speaker 1: the Niners have crumbled in the West, right, and so
Speaker 1: you have the Niners and the Browns kind of cancel
Speaker 1: each other out, but you would take the a f
Speaker 1: C North depth. I guess over other divisions but we
Speaker 1: all disagreed. I actually had them third. I think it
Speaker 1: was just no one had them anywhere lower than second
Speaker 1: or third, and so that that helped them out. So
Speaker 1: it just added up basically, so would eight if they
Speaker 1: were first. They got eight points. Did you do it? Like?
Speaker 1: Exactly two people voted uh, a f C North number one.
Speaker 1: Two people voted the NFC West number one. I believe
Speaker 1: it was Kevin Patrick coming at you know he had
Speaker 1: a second. I believe you and Connor where the two
Speaker 1: A f C North guys? What am I wrong? West?
Speaker 1: But uh, I mean it makes sense, and I think
Speaker 1: a big reason why they took it in this group
Speaker 1: of six is that, I well, I could speak for
Speaker 1: this room at least, that we're all we're all very
Speaker 1: high on the Ravens this year, I think, having a
Speaker 1: bounce back season, and we still think that Bengals are
Speaker 1: gonna be good and we love the Stealers. So that
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. Even if the Browns go
Speaker 1: three and thirteen, the rest of these teams, they all
Speaker 1: seem like they could be ten plus. Well, you can't
Speaker 1: ask for any division to typically have four major contenders.
Speaker 1: I mean the idea that and Greg said it with
Speaker 1: the North, it wouldn't surprise you have three of the
Speaker 1: those teams made the Super Bowl on any level. And
Speaker 1: I look at the Pittsburgh as a favorite in the ANFC.
Speaker 1: I think their defense gets better. I think the Bengals
Speaker 1: roster is right there with any team in the league.
Speaker 1: I don't really know if the Ravens will bounce back.
Speaker 1: They have had two out of the last three seasons
Speaker 1: either mediocre or just terrible, but they have legitimate quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in this division or those three teams to this was
Speaker 1: by far the hardest year to do this exercise. I thought, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think there's much separating I had then. The
Speaker 1: only thing I knew going into this what I would
Speaker 1: have the NFC East last, partly out of spite, just
Speaker 1: because of what you mentioned in the article. They get
Speaker 1: so much hype, they get so much television time, everybody
Speaker 1: thinks they're a great division, and frankly, they don't have
Speaker 1: any good teams. And I'm looking at our list last year,
Speaker 1: um the one two spot was NFC West number one
Speaker 1: in a f C North number two. So they flipped
Speaker 1: in our opinion from one March to the next. I
Speaker 1: had NFC West number one, because and so did Mark
Speaker 1: I believe. I don't know what your reasoning Mark was.
Speaker 1: Mine was basically, they have the best one to punch.
Speaker 1: I mean they have two of the top four teams
Speaker 1: and not since what West was saying that no division
Speaker 1: is kind of perfect. That just was enough. And the
Speaker 1: rams to me are they're they're underachieving, but they're a
Speaker 1: solid team. You got the turd in the punch bowl
Speaker 1: with the forty, but you have I only think there's
Speaker 1: a gross saying that it sounds like a terrible party.
Speaker 1: It's not a Greg thing. A lot of people use
Speaker 1: that and it's like an actual piece of human feces
Speaker 1: in fruit punch. He was for a long time leaning
Speaker 1: on flying the ointment. That was a big, big phrase
Speaker 1: of Greg's down the stretch and through the postseason. So
Speaker 1: he's now taken into another level, working a little blue.
Speaker 1: This is bachelor Greg on display. I'm speechless right now.
Speaker 1: The punch Bowl got any other graphic him and gently
Speaker 1: Nick just flying into Asia. Do you know what My
Speaker 1: main takeaway from this was the top eight teams in
Speaker 1: the league for me were pretty easy. Okay, then nine
Speaker 1: through twenty eight or thirty you could rank them just
Speaker 1: about anyway. And then the Browns and well you had
Speaker 1: the eight. You had the most out there, uh, number
Speaker 1: one ranking of any division. How about the h the
Speaker 1: agnostic over there picking the a f C East as
Speaker 1: the number one division, whereas Dan and I you know
Speaker 1: did not well, you know, I carry that water up
Speaker 1: and down the hill for the page. So third number
Speaker 1: one obviously on this list because their numbernber one every
Speaker 1: year for me there they're the best team in the league,
Speaker 1: and you know when they don't win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: But I think the Bills will be a little bit
Speaker 1: better this year. The Jets will be five hundred type
Speaker 1: of team, and the Dolphins are around five. They don't
Speaker 1: have any Weeks sisters there. They're yeah, they're the example
Speaker 1: of the yeah the Week's sister. Uh clause See. I
Speaker 1: think the a f C West is like the a
Speaker 1: f C East in that way. They don't have an
Speaker 1: f C West, in my mind, has two of the
Speaker 1: worst five teams in the league. What the Rams are
Speaker 1: gonna go into the a f C West. So West
Speaker 1: has four strong teams, and I think those are four
Speaker 1: good teams. I had them up high because to me,
Speaker 1: any one of those four teams could make the playoffs
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't surprise me. Maybe not go to the
Speaker 1: Superol Sanchez as its quarterback, right, but the worst team
Speaker 1: in the division has Philip Rivers as its quarterback, and
Speaker 1: you've got some other good quarterbacks and some promise there
Speaker 1: should stay. I don't know if we've said any of
Speaker 1: the actual order other than the one too, but I
Speaker 1: don't think one through four is a f C North,
Speaker 1: NFC West, a f C West number three, and then
Speaker 1: a f C East number four. So West had at
Speaker 1: number one. I'm assuming the rest of us had to
Speaker 1: have them at the middle of the pack or significantly
Speaker 1: lower for them to fall to four. These votes, uh,
Speaker 1: were very close. This was like our you know election,
Speaker 1: Your vote really counted. If one person had gone off,
Speaker 1: it would have totally changed things. These four were all
Speaker 1: pretty tightly bunched. The NFC North, which will get to fifth,
Speaker 1: was kind of off on its own, and then the
Speaker 1: three bottom divisions we all agreed about, so so I
Speaker 1: think we saw. To me it's a balanced league. The
Speaker 1: divisions are abouts and the a f C and the
Speaker 1: NFC is pretty bad. I mean, the extra size is
Speaker 1: a little bit absurd at this time of year. But
Speaker 1: I I like I like that the a f C
Speaker 1: South got out of the number eight spot, and I
Speaker 1: if I really had wanted to go rogue, I don't
Speaker 1: even remember filling in the answers for this. When was this?
Speaker 1: Is that home? You caught me in a weird time
Speaker 1: and I sent it in over we're struggling. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: you sent it back. You're actually the first person to
Speaker 1: send it back. This shouldn't surprise anyone about Sessler. He's
Speaker 1: at home, he's fighting through an illness um and he
Speaker 1: sends it back before any of these guys who are
Speaker 1: on the clock. Well, maybe put less thought into it too.
Speaker 1: But how about the a f C South. I think
Speaker 1: the a f C South is I know that this
Speaker 1: sounds like you could probably record to last summer and
Speaker 1: I said the same thing, But I think the a
Speaker 1: f C South four interesting quarterbacks in that division. That
Speaker 1: was not the case when they were an absolute joke
Speaker 1: a couple of season two years ago. They were I
Speaker 1: could see them jumping up to five or something. I
Speaker 1: think the idea they're they're not gonna go higher than
Speaker 1: seven or eight in this exercise because of what they are.
Speaker 1: But I could see it happening. Nobody believes me on
Speaker 1: this one. On this podcast a couple of weeks ago,
Speaker 1: we talked about five franchises on the Rod. Three of
Speaker 1: them are in the ANFC South and the other one
Speaker 1: has been the Usual Division. Which that's also the reason
Speaker 1: to have your guard up a little bit through because
Speaker 1: in springtime, when you start thinking teams are much better,
Speaker 1: you never you never really know, but you know they're fun.
Speaker 1: You know they're more fun to watch, you know, the Colts,
Speaker 1: the Titan even the Titans because of Mariota, you know
Speaker 1: they have some interest level. And even the Texans, who
Speaker 1: to me always board me more than the rest of
Speaker 1: the division. At least there's something different there that you
Speaker 1: can get into with. You got right though, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a division and it got come on, you
Speaker 1: gotta go do it for once. This reminds me of
Speaker 1: maybe this should be an offseason post. Now it's too
Speaker 1: late for this. The most underrated games of two thousand
Speaker 1: and fifteen season Number one Jaguars Titans the second time
Speaker 1: they played Thursday night game. The Thursday night game was
Speaker 1: a total snooze there and people missed it was like
Speaker 1: forty two to thirty nine, an insane fourth quarter where
Speaker 1: Bordles and Mariotta were just lighting it up. It was
Speaker 1: a it was a treat meant nothing treat for everyone
Speaker 1: who doesn't care about defense. Five through eight the NFC North,
Speaker 1: NFC South, a f C South at seven, and then
Speaker 1: NFC East And I yeah, I think Grant and Gregg
Speaker 1: you wrote it in the post, and here's proof that
Speaker 1: I read the post on the man um that maybe
Speaker 1: this is a little bit of revolting because we see
Speaker 1: them so much, Uh, these teams in primetime settings, and
Speaker 1: you're just sick of it. You're sick of seeing the
Speaker 1: Cowboys and Giants playing in big time Sunday night football
Speaker 1: spots with Alan Chris and Michelle with the call, and
Speaker 1: it's like, why what they do to deserve this? They
Speaker 1: get the ratings, that's why they get that spot, but
Speaker 1: they don't play great football. Uh, and there's nobody in that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it would be very surprising, yes or no
Speaker 1: if anybody in that division won more than eleven games. Correct, Well,
Speaker 1: what if you look, Dallas isn't complete, but you that
Speaker 1: last season wasn't was a complete night mirror for them.
Speaker 1: I mean, you get you get them healthy you get
Speaker 1: your quarterback in for sixteen games, I could see, Well, no,
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. How do teams get to a
Speaker 1: letter the games? It helps to be with a bad
Speaker 1: in a bad division. If the rest of the divisions
Speaker 1: beat able, you could be a team that isn't really
Speaker 1: eleven win type team, but you could win eleven or
Speaker 1: twelve games. I had them seventh over the a f
Speaker 1: C South. But I think those two divisions stand out
Speaker 1: that they don't really have anyone in those divisions that
Speaker 1: if anyone of any team in either one of those
Speaker 1: divisions made the super Bowl, you'd be surprised. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Colts maybe wouldn't totally shock you, but yeah, I'd
Speaker 1: be surprised if if the Eagles or the Giants or
Speaker 1: the Redskin somehow got it together or the Cowboys. To me,
Speaker 1: the whole doubt the Dallas thinks, I think right now,
Speaker 1: because Jerry Jones thinks it that we were one of
Speaker 1: the best five teams in the NFL two years ago.
Speaker 1: Then we didn't have Tony Romo. Now we're gonna get
Speaker 1: Tony roll back, so we can be one of the
Speaker 1: top five teams. And I look at that roster, I
Speaker 1: don't see it. What's wrong with the Ros. Their defense
Speaker 1: has holes all through it. I think their front seven,
Speaker 1: which was a last year uh, is a weakness. Now
Speaker 1: they've lost people, you know, including someone you want to
Speaker 1: lose like Greg Hardy. You've got injuries there, There's not
Speaker 1: much there. There's They got your They've got your boy
Speaker 1: making the leap guy, Tyrone Crawford. They've got DeMarcus Lawrence,
Speaker 1: who came on like Gangbusters last year at the end
Speaker 1: of the season coming off back surgery, got a high
Speaker 1: draft pick. A lot can change. Shawn Lee is one
Speaker 1: of the best linebackers in the league. I don't know.
Speaker 1: To me, like they didn't make a deal with the
Speaker 1: devil this year, don't. Wasn't it two years ago that
Speaker 1: we were saying the Cowboys had the worst defense we
Speaker 1: had ever seen in our human existence and that of
Speaker 1: my favorite podcast segments ever. But it was it was
Speaker 1: also a drumbeat throughout the offseason that the Cowboys were
Speaker 1: just it's just we you know, let's admit at this
Speaker 1: point where the four years into the show, it's March,
Speaker 1: we have no concept what's gonna happen with h no
Speaker 1: respect for the NFC South by the way, no one
Speaker 1: had them higher than six, despite I think the best
Speaker 1: quarterback lineup of any division in the in the league,
Speaker 1: and the best team in the league last year until
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. We're probably a little guilty on this
Speaker 1: podcast of concentrating too much on quarterbacks and ignoring the
Speaker 1: rest of the roster. Well not in this The Saints
Speaker 1: were legitimately junk for a couple of seasons in a row,
Speaker 1: and they're not any better right now. Buck's gotta show it.
Speaker 1: I mean, why do we think the Bucks defense isn't
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, what have they shown it? They're
Speaker 1: a good defense. Well, we're loving that they have the
Speaker 1: league m v P, the best team in the NFL
Speaker 1: until the final day of the season, and three good quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: so you know, you're hoping that you can get other
Speaker 1: other things going Tampa. Forget about Tampa for now. But
Speaker 1: New Orleans and Atlanta wouldn't shock you if they wouldn't have.
Speaker 1: New Orleans is easily the worst team in that division.
Speaker 1: I mean, one team will pick number one a year ago,
Speaker 1: and the Falcons and Saints have been bad years on
Speaker 1: for a couple of years in a row now, So
Speaker 1: it's that's how you wind up near the bottom of
Speaker 1: this list. Good chatter, guys, division power ranking, Power Rankings,
Speaker 1: NFL dot com slash Rosenthal to read the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Good thanks, Not only did you recap you know each
Speaker 1: of the divisions that he had a few more thoughts
Speaker 1: when you get into your thought bubbles. Um. I think
Speaker 1: Greg should take print this out, folded up in a
Speaker 1: nice little square and put it in his pocket and
Speaker 1: everywhere he goes in Japan, have this article on his
Speaker 1: body so he can show it to people, just to
Speaker 1: know that he right. He left with a big, gigantic
Speaker 1: punch to the gut before he departed the country, just
Speaker 1: a a bomb on our NFL dot com website. Well,
Speaker 1: the last time I was in Japan was a week
Speaker 1: after I was hired by a good old NFL and uh,
Speaker 1: the NFL Japan offices just blocks away from where my
Speaker 1: in laws live. There is an office, just a small
Speaker 1: just four people work there. Apparently they closed it down
Speaker 1: but now it's I don't know, but I might want
Speaker 1: to go work there somewhere. Right, You should check it out.
Speaker 1: Greg was in Japan. Dan and I both furiously texting
Speaker 1: each other, convinced we're gonna get fired when he comes back.
Speaker 1: I like the idea of that Greg's gonna come in
Speaker 1: restore order. It was a very uh, it was a
Speaker 1: time of very little shorty. I will say that you're
Speaker 1: telling me Um will be back on Thursday. At least
Speaker 1: three of us will. Greg will be on an airplane
Speaker 1: or going to an airport. I will be in the air.
Speaker 1: You'll be in the air on your way to Japan's.
Speaker 1: So have a good time the boss. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1: Before before you do that though, and I'm very excited
Speaker 1: because I got to send out my first ever calendar
Speaker 1: invite on our internal email system around the NFL Podcast
Speaker 1: Ideas Summit right after this guy. So bring your thinking caps,
Speaker 1: maybe do a little already. Have red bull, uh drinking
Speaker 1: your red Bull? Anything to really get your mind stimulated.
Speaker 1: A cup of coffee. Maybe. I will not provide any
Speaker 1: d Danish. I don't even that for the committee. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's for the fourth committee. Uh so that's it. Yes,
Speaker 1: And again the iTunes challenge hashtag iTunes challenges on let's
Speaker 1: see if we can manipulate the system and rise up
Speaker 1: the rankings. You know, put everybody out free to belittle
Speaker 1: us in the comments as long as you give us
Speaker 1: five stars. Yeah, that's a trade off. Will certainly take.
Speaker 1: That's it, so we'll be back on Thursday. Uh, this
Speaker 1: is Dan hands Is signing off or Quiet Storm, the Mailman,
Speaker 1: the Boss and the Irishman High in the Glass until Thursday,