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Speaker 1: Are you doing lat Seed behind the Glass? It's doing great?
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Speaker 1: get seated next to him? That is a fair question.
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Speaker 1: it at that exactly. That's where the HR stuff comes in. Um, so, hey,
Speaker 1: why don't we do some news Sydney sang Bull, who
Speaker 1: asked that one guy was oh yeah, that was awesome. Yes,
Speaker 1: not ready for that? Mike Malarkey, against all odds, has
Speaker 1: lost the interim tag and is now the Tennessee Titans
Speaker 1: head coach. Uh this after a two and seven finish
Speaker 1: after replacing Ken wizzen Hunt. He was introduced on Monday.
Speaker 1: Uh he believed. I believe he made a comment that,
Speaker 1: you know, it's time for a fresh start, but a
Speaker 1: lot of criticism guys come in Tennessee's way. We call
Speaker 1: him the tit tuons because you know, they don't necessarily
Speaker 1: deserve to be analyzed the rest of we do with
Speaker 1: the thirty one other teams because they're so boring and
Speaker 1: they always seem to make bad choices. And guess what, lindsay,
Speaker 1: this feels like a shaky choice by Tennessee. It does
Speaker 1: seem surprising that they had a list of a hundred
Speaker 1: fifty five names that they were going to take a
Speaker 1: look at and the one they ended up with was
Speaker 1: the person who already had an office down the hall.
Speaker 1: But I mean, that's how love works sometimes. So you're
Speaker 1: defending this higher I'm not. I'm just saying that, I'm
Speaker 1: not saying that you were actually openly discussed it as
Speaker 1: you were watching the press conference on Monday, just be
Speaker 1: honest about the situation. Wasn't an assignment I was itching for,
Speaker 1: but uh, it was an overly long press conference where
Speaker 1: what what got me upset was at one point Steve Underwood,
Speaker 1: I believe the president's CEO was an amazing mustache, and yeah,
Speaker 1: no he looks. He's very impressive looking from a certain
Speaker 1: point of view. But at one point, the beat writers,
Speaker 1: who I don't think this is a hard hitting group
Speaker 1: of beat writers for the most part, and down in
Speaker 1: Tennessee group hardly a group. It's not Philadelphia, but they
Speaker 1: were coming Adam saying, hold on, you keep telling us
Speaker 1: about this search and all, how thorough you were. And
Speaker 1: you just as you said, Lendsy, you came back to
Speaker 1: the guy that bottomed out as an interim coach to
Speaker 1: finish the season, how do you explain to the frustrated fans?
Speaker 1: And he was RESPONSI was, oh, I didn't even know
Speaker 1: the fans were frustrated. I don't know why they would
Speaker 1: be frustrated. It's just a complete lead, deep disconnect with
Speaker 1: a fan base at this point is getting no attention
Speaker 1: from the team making its decisions. Well, Mike Mularkey is
Speaker 1: not an inspiring head coach. At no point, even when
Speaker 1: he's a coordinator, can you really point to this is
Speaker 1: what Mike Mullarkey accomplished, This is where he was innovative.
Speaker 1: And I was really struck when they asked him about
Speaker 1: developing quarterbacks and all he talked about was Cordell Stewart
Speaker 1: and Tommy Maddox. And I'm thinking that's fifteen years ago,
Speaker 1: first of all. Second of all, No, I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess what he was saying was they maximize Cordell's abilities
Speaker 1: one year and then they switched to Tommy Maddox. But
Speaker 1: that's the thing I always look for, coach, what are
Speaker 1: you bringing to the table if nothing else. Chip Kelly,
Speaker 1: for instance, is bringing to the table a guy who
Speaker 1: had a top five scoring offense with Mark Sanchez and
Speaker 1: Nick Foles. Malarkey, he's not an inspiring public figure. He's
Speaker 1: been in the building. He's been a head coach a
Speaker 1: couple of times before. He is eighteen and thirty nine
Speaker 1: as a head coach. The most noteworthy thing he ever
Speaker 1: did as a head coach was walk away from a
Speaker 1: job in Buffalo. The second most noteworthy thing he ever
Speaker 1: did was lose in week seventeen as the coach of
Speaker 1: the Bills against the Steelers backups when with a playoff
Speaker 1: spot on the line. It was one of the all
Speaker 1: time chokes of the last twenty years. You want to
Speaker 1: talk about pain rankings and painful losses. You played against
Speaker 1: backups when you were trying to get to the playoffs
Speaker 1: and they lost. And that's basically the last time Malarkey
Speaker 1: had a halfway decent season. Let's look at the most
Speaker 1: recent sample size, and this is an pile on Mike
Speaker 1: Malarkey day, although it feels like it. It's like if
Speaker 1: you watch of those Titans games, there were business decisions
Speaker 1: all over the field. Those guys didn't look like they
Speaker 1: were playing are usually an interim coach usually doesn't keep
Speaker 1: the job. I feel like in most cases, if you
Speaker 1: looked at the numbers, and he certainly didn't look like
Speaker 1: he was gonna keep the job. The way they finished,
Speaker 1: they played uninspired football. So that made it even more
Speaker 1: stunning that it seemed like they just zeroed in. And
Speaker 1: it makes you think there's something else cooking and an
Speaker 1: unsettled ownership situation, the whole franchises in flux that they
Speaker 1: made this and he becomes the new Jim Tomsula of
Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen and then is sent to the well.
Speaker 1: There's a handful of teams that have a new GM
Speaker 1: that kept a coach around or went out and hired
Speaker 1: a very familiar face like Malarkey, and those, to me
Speaker 1: are the prime candidates for a one and done situation,
Speaker 1: because if it's not going well, that new hand picked
Speaker 1: GM is gonna want to pick the guy that he
Speaker 1: wants himself, that he knows, not the guy he inherited.
Speaker 1: Wasn't this the guy who helped back the Falcons offense
Speaker 1: with Julio Jones, Roddy White and Matt Ryan until they
Speaker 1: hired Dirk Cutter to kind of bring out what they could. Yes,
Speaker 1: I mean this is I was trying to think, what's
Speaker 1: the opposite of inspired? But fortunately the English language gives
Speaker 1: us prefixes like uninspired was taking shots at English. I
Speaker 1: think it's interesting that they just didn't wait to Why
Speaker 1: Why did they rush to hire him instead of waiting
Speaker 1: until the playoffs were done and at least going through
Speaker 1: the motions of talking to somebody like Josh McDaniels, Matt
Speaker 1: Patricia and making it look like you really have covered
Speaker 1: all your bases and McDaniels reportedly on our network was
Speaker 1: very interested in the Titans job because you have Marcus Mariotte.
Speaker 1: That's the thing is you feel bad, uh for Mariota,
Speaker 1: and you feel bad for the fan base because here's
Speaker 1: an opening press conference where you should have some hope,
Speaker 1: and instead it's Mike Malarkey really just insisting it's not
Speaker 1: the same old from last year. That was one of
Speaker 1: the codes. And you're also having questions to the ownership
Speaker 1: saying oh that in admitting that the commissioner Roger Goodell
Speaker 1: has mentioned that the league is not happy with some
Speaker 1: things about their ownership structure, which is very confusing. And
Speaker 1: there's seventy five layers of leadership, and and then you
Speaker 1: also have Ian Rappaport, and then admitting during the press
Speaker 1: conference the GM was hired essentially before he had any
Speaker 1: choice to make a choice in the head coach. The
Speaker 1: ownership had decided basically, if you're gonna get this job,
Speaker 1: you have to take Mike Malarkey as your head coach.
Speaker 1: They had organizations do not give their fan bases hope.
Speaker 1: That's the easiest to me. If you want a spot
Speaker 1: a bad organization, do you give your fans hope, and
Speaker 1: the Titans haven't for three years. The Eagles do not
Speaker 1: have a super Bowl title in their history, but there's
Speaker 1: hope in Philly, and it seems like Jeff Low he
Speaker 1: runs a ship that you can get behind a little bit.
Speaker 1: And he made the decision to hire Doug Peterson, the
Speaker 1: former Chief's offensive coordinator. He Peterson was announced uh in
Speaker 1: a press conference by the team or introduced in the
Speaker 1: press conference by the team on Tuesday, um and uh
Speaker 1: so Peterson is the guy. Of course, the Philly media
Speaker 1: greg immediately uh seized upon some of the time management
Speaker 1: issues in the playoff loss to the Pats because they
Speaker 1: can't think of Andy Reid. They they always think of
Speaker 1: read obviously in Philly. So Peterson's there, but right away,
Speaker 1: you see he's gonna have an uphill battle in that market.
Speaker 1: Right there's not gonna be a huge honeymoon period because
Speaker 1: this is a guy who's been with the organization before
Speaker 1: and it feels like a return to Andy Reid. And
Speaker 1: I did an article on the website, you know, ranking
Speaker 1: the coaching hrens when I found out that Doug Peterson
Speaker 1: was the guy. The only calls he's ever putt He's
Speaker 1: ever made as a pro in the pros is the
Speaker 1: Chiefs two minutes situations and situational football and West We've
Speaker 1: talked about on the podcast. They're one of the worst
Speaker 1: two minute UH teams in the NFL, and that knock
Speaker 1: them down spot. I decided to knock him down a
Speaker 1: spot for that five minute death march that the Chiefs
Speaker 1: had because it speaks to his philosophy. And he also
Speaker 1: told Jenny Brentis of the m m QB a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago that Alex Smith is what he looks for
Speaker 1: exactly in a quarterback in the NFL. That's what he wants.
Speaker 1: Somebody can run the West Coast offense. Didn't Can dunked
Speaker 1: the ball down the field. That doesn't really inspire the
Speaker 1: fan base. Yeah, but this is the total situation where
Speaker 1: the Eagles ownership went out and tried to get the
Speaker 1: super super like hot person to date, but they were
Speaker 1: a wild nightmare to deal with. And so it's the
Speaker 1: bounce back where you go and get the very safe, secure,
Speaker 1: probably the next door neighbor that you didn't realize till
Speaker 1: about a month ago. Oh wait, they're kind of amazing,
Speaker 1: Like I'm into that next door neighbor and Doug Peterson.
Speaker 1: Brian Billick compared it to having a midlife crisis. But ironically,
Speaker 1: you believe that Doug Peterson is immediately one of the
Speaker 1: hottest NFL coaches in terms of his looks. Sure, that's
Speaker 1: what Mark was saying. He was ranking him high. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna leave Bark hanging on this. I think Peterson
Speaker 1: immediately vaults into the top ten and maybe the top five.
Speaker 1: That hair is a problem. He looks like a backup
Speaker 1: singer for George Jones and Conway Twittery about to go
Speaker 1: into the hall. It sounds like we're being really critical
Speaker 1: of Peterson. We have no idea. There's just no way
Speaker 1: to know how Peterson is gonna be like he He
Speaker 1: seemed like he has a good command of the room
Speaker 1: and that that sort of thing. He hired Jim Schwartz
Speaker 1: as defensive coordinator, which I think is a huge get
Speaker 1: that has been He's been a good defensive coordinator and
Speaker 1: he doesn't have to. We know Doug Peterson not gonna
Speaker 1: be running a defense, so that's gonna be a big
Speaker 1: help to him to have Schworts. There a lot of
Speaker 1: talent on that defense. He spoke highly of DeMarco Murray,
Speaker 1: which was obvious. And I know he's under contract guaranteed
Speaker 1: money next year that they'll probably try to make it
Speaker 1: work again with Murray or that might be the plan
Speaker 1: as of right now. And he also spoke highly of
Speaker 1: Sam Bradford. If you're looking for clues about what their
Speaker 1: team's gonna look like, here's a direct quote. I think
Speaker 1: Sam's a quality quarterback. No, no, doug double down. Okay, dude,
Speaker 1: I think he's a top notch quarterback. Look at what
Speaker 1: he did in the last half of the season, the
Speaker 1: numbers he was able to put up. He's a quarterback
Speaker 1: that would fit perfectly into into the system. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: bring that. Did I miss Bradford having a great second half? Well,
Speaker 1: he's the guy that is. They're They're not going to,
Speaker 1: you know, burn any Bridges. That doesn't. Chase Daniel, who
Speaker 1: tweeted a very nice things about it's he knows Peterson's offense.
Speaker 1: Andy Reid brought Peterson in because he knew Read's offense
Speaker 1: figured there might be some carry over there. That makes
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Chase Daniel former making the leap candidate,
Speaker 1: it's not too late to make that leap chase. I mean,
Speaker 1: Daniel wins that every chase your destiny. If you have
Speaker 1: a week seventeen game against the Chargers, Chase Daniels. It's
Speaker 1: been proven he's unstoppable in those situations. Let's move on
Speaker 1: to the Green Bay Packers, who once again are recover
Speaker 1: after a crushing playoff loss. This time it was that
Speaker 1: instant classic in Arizona. The the loss in overtime twenty Uh.
Speaker 1: In the post mortem press conference, Uh, Mike McCarthy, Uh
Speaker 1: put Any Lacey on blast. And you know we people
Speaker 1: have been talking. Mark I remembered in the early nascent
Speaker 1: days of the Around the NFL blog. Uh, there was
Speaker 1: a post that we did where everyone on Twitter was
Speaker 1: freaking out because Eddie Lacey looked fat in his rookie
Speaker 1: camp workout. Uh So people have always talked about Lacey
Speaker 1: being maybe carrying too much weight, but this time the
Speaker 1: Packers official and namely the head coach, came out and
Speaker 1: said something. Uh, he's got a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1: His offseason last year was not good enough, good enough,
Speaker 1: and he never recovered from it. He cannot play at
Speaker 1: the weight he played at this year. Uh So, there
Speaker 1: you go. His carries were down, uh substantially this season
Speaker 1: is his production was down, did not find the end
Speaker 1: zone much, just wasn't the same player. And when you
Speaker 1: look at all the issues that plagued offense this year,
Speaker 1: and Jordy Nelson was at the top, but Lacey regressing
Speaker 1: as something no one predicted and it killed him. It
Speaker 1: was embarrassing that sixty one yard run in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: he didn't reach more than seventeen miles an hour on
Speaker 1: a on a sixty one yard run, I think he's
Speaker 1: the first player in the NFL this season to do
Speaker 1: that by next gen stats. It's embarrassing. He should have
Speaker 1: scored on that play. You're hurting your team. Feels like
Speaker 1: we saw a couple of running backs getting chased down
Speaker 1: from behind during this these playoffs. But with Lacey, I
Speaker 1: really feel like if he does not show an immediate
Speaker 1: commitment change in the off season to get his body right.
Speaker 1: That's how running backs sometimes had that big surges when
Speaker 1: they lose that weight, they get in shape. But if
Speaker 1: he doesn't, I would not be surprised to see him shopped. Well,
Speaker 1: this is it because if if he comes to campbelln
Speaker 1: Z and he is not him he's not looking good.
Speaker 1: What else do you need to know that another guy
Speaker 1: is never going to see the light? But I think
Speaker 1: he will. I think he made some comments to about
Speaker 1: the fact that sometimes when things come too easily for you,
Speaker 1: you kind of sit back and think that you can,
Speaker 1: uh like relax a little bit in terms of your preparation,
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. And I think that I think
Speaker 1: he understands that that's what happened to him this year
Speaker 1: and that's why things didn't pan out this year the
Speaker 1: way they did last year for him. So um, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Mike McCarthy is sort of stating the obvious there.
Speaker 1: I I am a little bit um displeased with the
Speaker 1: way that this has all gone down in the last
Speaker 1: few weeks, and it's become like fat shaming Eddie Lacy.
Speaker 1: It's one thing if it's analysis, but there were so
Speaker 1: many jokes making their way around Twitter about him having
Speaker 1: tweeted things about food and if you look at the date,
Speaker 1: it's like, so that one was from two thousand twelve,
Speaker 1: and that one was from two thousand thirteen. You compiled
Speaker 1: like twelve didn't you want in this room? Do that? Okay?
Speaker 1: I like what I feel I like to see these smiles.
Speaker 1: I was smiling because everybody on Twitter is an amateur comedian,
Speaker 1: but it just it was a lot, and I'm like that,
Speaker 1: you know, he's like, he's a he's a person, and
Speaker 1: he obviously has some maybe some issues with food, and
Speaker 1: don't I get it, Like it's like there is some
Speaker 1: analysis there with regards to his weight, like an offensive
Speaker 1: lineman who can't make weight, that kind of stuff. But
Speaker 1: it just it's crossed the line into being mean and
Speaker 1: like an appropriate joke at his expense. And I just
Speaker 1: so in that sense, I wish that Mike mccarthel, though
Speaker 1: he certainly didn't do anything wrong and he wasn't, you know,
Speaker 1: piling on, but I kind of wish that he had
Speaker 1: just not even acknowledged the weight and just said he
Speaker 1: needs to do some work to you know, be in
Speaker 1: shape for a new season or something. If comedy is obvious,
Speaker 1: it's not funny too, So it's bad. It's bad, well, Lacy,
Speaker 1: the weight to me is a symptom of something they're
Speaker 1: not happy with, is that he doesn't take his job
Speaker 1: as seriously and the weight is part of that. That's
Speaker 1: why he was Ben's I think there's been talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, missing meetings things like that. So it's one
Speaker 1: part of a bigger story. Back in the old days,
Speaker 1: everyone used to I mean not the old days, but
Speaker 1: I mean the NFL used to be littered with tons
Speaker 1: of players that have weight problems. That's kind of gone
Speaker 1: away in this era professional sports, where their ultra professionals
Speaker 1: and there's more money training campus to actually get in shipped.
Speaker 1: When you're making six million dollars a year, you're expected
Speaker 1: to be It's different and Wes I like obvious jokes,
Speaker 1: by the way, just me. I don't think, Hey, this
Speaker 1: guy's thirty pounds overweight, let's make fun of his Maybe
Speaker 1: not that. That's not West's humor podcast that will be
Speaker 1: coming up in the off season. He breaks down, all
Speaker 1: maybe I can get jessel Nick on that, right. I
Speaker 1: like that co hosted the Rosenthal Advantity Project, available on iTunes.
Speaker 1: Let's move on to other Packers news. Uh, Clay Matthews,
Speaker 1: who was a I believe in all pro outside linebacker
Speaker 1: once upon a time, you know it was piling up
Speaker 1: fifteen plus sack seasons. They moved him to the inside
Speaker 1: and that you know that had decidedly mixed results, and
Speaker 1: now the plan, according to McCarthy's also came out of
Speaker 1: his pressor, is that the goal is to move him
Speaker 1: back to outside linebacker in sixteen, where he is a
Speaker 1: quote great weapon and quote so destructive. Lindsay, this is
Speaker 1: a former USC product, like you your thoughts well, a
Speaker 1: fight on and b I mean you took me there.
Speaker 1: Uh So his stats are down obviously on the inside
Speaker 1: they're going to be. I think it's a strong statement
Speaker 1: to how good a football player he is that you
Speaker 1: can move him inside and that he's still effective, although
Speaker 1: statistically speaking, less so than on the outside. I think
Speaker 1: obviously he'd prefer to be on the outseat outside and
Speaker 1: rushing every single time as opposed to like ten times
Speaker 1: a game like he was this year. This is one
Speaker 1: of those cases though the fans. The fans have a
Speaker 1: certain opinion that why would you do this? This is stupid,
Speaker 1: and ultimately the coaches agreed with it that he wasn't
Speaker 1: a special player at inside linebacker, he had liabilities, and
Speaker 1: even though they only did it out of necessity in
Speaker 1: the middle of the two thousand fourteen season, it was
Speaker 1: a little weird to go back to it and really
Speaker 1: try to coach him up on it there, admitting defeat.
Speaker 1: But it makes sense. It's good to meet admit it
Speaker 1: was a mistake. You just but that was two years
Speaker 1: of his prime that you just. Yeah, it's so much
Speaker 1: easier to find an inside linebacker who's adequate than to
Speaker 1: stash your best pass rushing and lose that part of
Speaker 1: his game. I also want to see if they bring
Speaker 1: Julius Peppers back at his cost, because he himself is
Speaker 1: wayne retirement and that would affect I mean automatically, that
Speaker 1: would change their defense quite a bit. Like Neil is
Speaker 1: a free agent, I think Gian's a free agent, Perry's
Speaker 1: a free agent. They have a lot of work to do.
Speaker 1: Speaking a free agent, um, James Starks is also a
Speaker 1: free agent. Back to the Lacey think for one second.
Speaker 1: So they got some decisions to make. How much do
Speaker 1: you trust Eddie Lacy? Uh moving on to a team
Speaker 1: that is still playing the Carolina Panthers. Uh Ron Rivera
Speaker 1: said on Monday that he's banning hoverboards from the Panthers facility.
Speaker 1: He he had this to say, we don't want them
Speaker 1: running around because we don't want something crazy happening here. Uh,
Speaker 1: We're trying to limit their exposure to injury, and he
Speaker 1: said the last straw came when he caught some players
Speaker 1: quote drag racing in the hallway one time. Can you imagine, uh,
Speaker 1: drag racing with your teammate. You're having a great time
Speaker 1: and then the freaking coach turns the corner and you
Speaker 1: just got banged. Situation. Well, how about banning the hoverboard
Speaker 1: because you're an adult? What's going on here? Yeah? That
Speaker 1: or you know they explode straight up? Well, that's my
Speaker 1: favorite part of it was his quote have you seen
Speaker 1: those things on YouTube blowing up? Which up all sorts
Speaker 1: of questions in my head, like you have, like bon
Speaker 1: Rivera is sitting there like YouTube and if you Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wrote the post on the sun around the NFL,
Speaker 1: and I included something Lindsay didn't see because she ped
Speaker 1: up the ESPN version. I see next to me said
Speaker 1: my benefits. But I did include if you put hoverboard
Speaker 1: accidents in YouTube, it brings up all these exploding toys,
Speaker 1: and it also brings up Mike Tyson near killing himself
Speaker 1: falling down, you know, in a way that even Buster
Speaker 1: Douglas would be envious of how how hard Tyson went down.
Speaker 1: Uh So, yeah, nobody should use it. And by the way,
Speaker 1: let's be honest here. If you know your filmed history,
Speaker 1: hoverboards popular eyes on back to the future too. Those
Speaker 1: things float, they don't touch the ground. That's not a
Speaker 1: hover board. Yeah, therefore they yeah, yeah, it's a it's
Speaker 1: a segue without the you know, let's not act like
Speaker 1: they've gotten there technologically. It's starting to call things hoverboards
Speaker 1: when they're not. It's all advertising. Yeah, they have a book,
Speaker 1: come back to us, get there first, build it. So
Speaker 1: you're saying I should return my year end present to
Speaker 1: the group, Well, it says something that you and Ron
Speaker 1: Rivera to see the world differently. That you would let
Speaker 1: your charges ride around on a hoverboard. He would put
Speaker 1: his foot down. So that's a good thing on on
Speaker 1: your part. Greg. Now that we don't need to go
Speaker 1: to hr not yet another run you bring one of
Speaker 1: those things in here in the short circuit. The next
Speaker 1: thing you know, we've got a freaking fire here. Hey,
Speaker 1: got a freaking At least he's not a micromanager. I
Speaker 1: love Ron Rivera. He's great. He's the riverboat gambler. If
Speaker 1: you're real riverboat, you let all the guys on hoverboards
Speaker 1: and just have some fun. How great is that that
Speaker 1: match going to be for that reason, right, Ron Rivera
Speaker 1: and the whole gambling aspect, which we don't do in
Speaker 1: the NFL, Bruce Arians, It's gonna be fun. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be a good game. That's what No biscuit. I love that.
Speaker 1: That's what's happening in the NFL today. One lass a
Speaker 1: bit of news on Thursday, Lindsay, this will be news
Speaker 1: to you as well as the audience that we all
Speaker 1: went out to dinner to cheesecake Factory. Uh, compliments of
Speaker 1: Ed and Barbara Barbara Sessler. Oh yeah, it was a
Speaker 1: great time, great dinner, great parents. They're regular listen. Well,
Speaker 1: your dad admitted he's not a regular listener, But I
Speaker 1: don't blame my mom listens a lot and she referenced
Speaker 1: it to where she proved it so well. They're great people.
Speaker 1: She she's a football savant. She she winned. She used
Speaker 1: to win the football pool and the Sessler household year
Speaker 1: after year. It says a lot about my lack of
Speaker 1: abilities to she she is good. But I got I
Speaker 1: had no idea the reference all this time, even though
Speaker 1: I wrote about it during the Hard Knock season. Bang
Speaker 1: bang Chicken and shrimp is on the Cheesecake Factory menu. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I never knew that anything. It was it good? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: sponsor of the Around the NFL podcast is good. But
Speaker 1: uh yeah, Ed and Bab's great company. Well they enjoyed
Speaker 1: meeting you guys. It was hard to get a gage.
Speaker 1: I couldn't. There were a couple of times where I
Speaker 1: said something or it looked like Ed was like, what
Speaker 1: is wrong with this guy? No, no, not at all.
Speaker 1: He found you very entertaining, very entertaining. Sydney doesn't like
Speaker 1: Dan Ray. Sorry, he's gonna have to keep that out. Um,
Speaker 1: we'll get that in post. Why I And I'm just
Speaker 1: going to butt in here with my sidebar. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know where you're going with this is a cheesecake
Speaker 1: Factory related. Michael Burger, who is the television producer of
Speaker 1: Around the NFL and the Show, is texting me wildly
Speaker 1: as we're sitting up here because he's very angry that
Speaker 1: I'm back on and what really has not been inviting.
Speaker 1: Burger does great work downstairs as a producer on the
Speaker 1: network side. But and he's been on our show twice.
Speaker 1: He did a great job last he was just on
Speaker 1: he was on before the last time. It's been made
Speaker 1: clear that he's on every two and a half years
Speaker 1: and like easily two plus years part of the contract.
Speaker 1: We've fulfilled our end. He did an excellent job. Uh so, yes,
Speaker 1: thank you to the Sessler's. Let's move on and talk
Speaker 1: about Yes Peyton Brady seventeen. Oh my goodness, and this
Speaker 1: really could be It could be the last one. It
Speaker 1: should be the last one. Will be very depressing if
Speaker 1: Peyton Mann is trying to throw a football at age forty,
Speaker 1: concerning how he's done it at already eight thirty nine.
Speaker 1: So let's just savor this matchup coming up on Sunday,
Speaker 1: and um, we will ask you a question, you know,
Speaker 1: throw it out there to the group. Um, because I
Speaker 1: think there is some nuance to this. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: be an obvious one framing this as if I came
Speaker 1: up with the question, it was Greg, but I am
Speaker 1: the one asking it. Therefore Daddy gets the credit. Here
Speaker 1: we go, who would loose? Get it right? It's always
Speaker 1: been a little disturbing that Dan calls himself daddy in
Speaker 1: front of it all of us, right, stay focused on
Speaker 1: the segment. Uh, Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. For whom
Speaker 1: would a loss in the a f C Championship game
Speaker 1: on Sunday be more devastating? Lindsey buzzes in, Yes, obviously, Peyton,
Speaker 1: Obviously Peyton. Let's hear why White? Obviously? Is there anyone
Speaker 1: else who really is going to make an argument for Brady?
Speaker 1: Let me just show if hands real quick, I am
Speaker 1: and and I are both contraion. Uh. It's obvious Peyton
Speaker 1: has had less success in the playoffs. This is the
Speaker 1: knock against him going into his Hall of Fame argument,
Speaker 1: which obviously is in the Hall of Fame. But in
Speaker 1: terms of talking about the greatest quarterback of all time,
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's already solidified the fact that he is ahead
Speaker 1: of Peyton because of his success in the postseason, whereas
Speaker 1: this is when Peyton is seen to fall apart. Uh.
Speaker 1: And this year he's clearly not his best and he's
Speaker 1: you don't want to go out the way that he's
Speaker 1: going out. But and that's exactly why there's more on Brady,
Speaker 1: because the pressure is on Tom Brady because Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: knows and the world knows that Peyton Manning is not
Speaker 1: a great quarterback at this stage of his career. But
Speaker 1: the world also knows that the Broncos defense is very good,
Speaker 1: so it's there's no shame in losing to the Broncos
Speaker 1: if you're if you're Tom Brady, I disagree with that.
Speaker 1: The Peyton Manning and as his teams have beaten Brady's
Speaker 1: teams a couple of times in the conference championship, this
Speaker 1: would be what three times in a row? Now, if
Speaker 1: that happens, this is a much better Tom Brady. This
Speaker 1: is the one part of Tom Brady's career where it's
Speaker 1: obvious that he's much better than Peyton Manning. To lose
Speaker 1: to Peyton Manning and these Broncos, a team that has
Speaker 1: had Tom Brady's number, has had the Patriots number for
Speaker 1: the most parties two and six and against Denver all time,
Speaker 1: it would it would be the worst loss he could
Speaker 1: possibly have in the a f C. What are you doing? Nice? Tried?
Speaker 1: That was a spirited defense. Nobody believes it. Tom Brady
Speaker 1: is already the greatest quarterback in NFL history, and the
Speaker 1: way he's playing now, there's no reason to believe he
Speaker 1: can't have three or four or great years to put
Speaker 1: even more distance between himself and Joe Montana and Peyton Manning.
Speaker 1: He doesn't need this nearly as much as Peyton Manning,
Speaker 1: who cares so much about his legacy. Literally, I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to literally after the game, if you had a debate
Speaker 1: about which quarterback is better Tom and Tom Brady had
Speaker 1: just lost to Peyton Manning, Tom Brady would still win
Speaker 1: the argument of does of all the success that he's
Speaker 1: had in the postseason. That's the same argument Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: used to win when the Patriots were beating the Colts
Speaker 1: and no one really cared because only people liked the winners.
Speaker 1: And if Peyton Manning somehow rode off in when the sunset,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. If he's not playing that well. It
Speaker 1: is just like John Elway, and it would be a
Speaker 1: be a magical ending to his career. If he won,
Speaker 1: he's going to ride off into the Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: lose by thirty to the Cardinals or Panthers. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: you say that every week. If he wins this game,
Speaker 1: then he will beat the Steelers and beat the Pats
Speaker 1: and without its best players, another post season uh devastating
Speaker 1: loss for Peyton Manning, just more proof that he can't
Speaker 1: get it done when it matters. But that's not everybody.
Speaker 1: That's not how this works though, because he's no longer
Speaker 1: that Peyton Manning anymore. So if we all are an
Speaker 1: agree agreement that Peyton Manning is half the player that
Speaker 1: he used to be, if that, the pressure is kind
Speaker 1: of off. Because if he goes and beats Tom Brady
Speaker 1: playing at the height of his powers, man that is
Speaker 1: not only a huge jewel on on his crown as
Speaker 1: he goes into retirement, it's a killer shot to Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: who had no no business losing. Killer shot. How does
Speaker 1: it kill him? He's still gonna be the best quarterback
Speaker 1: of vote because if he does and then Briton Manning retires,
Speaker 1: he will be the guy that beat him last he
Speaker 1: beat him title games. It would be it would be
Speaker 1: a big setback for the for the Brady legacy in
Speaker 1: my mind, and for Manning it would be huge. I
Speaker 1: don't think it's a huge setback for Brady's legacy or
Speaker 1: how people view him. I'm looking at it for who
Speaker 1: would be more devastating personally to that person? And West
Speaker 1: You're like, of course he can have three or four
Speaker 1: more chance. Maybe maybe he will. He's proved us wrong. Before.
Speaker 1: But he's thirty eight years old, and you just don't
Speaker 1: know how many chances you're gonna get. This might be
Speaker 1: his last questance. You really, you really don't know. I
Speaker 1: think maybe i'm speaking as a Patriot, I'm speaking as
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan, that there's no worse loss than you
Speaker 1: can have right now than to the Peyton Manning bron
Speaker 1: I agree with the argument that, look, you don't know
Speaker 1: from year to year what's gonna happen. But the Patriots
Speaker 1: are in the Conference championship every single year. They have
Speaker 1: a really talented they have a really talented young defensive nucleus.
Speaker 1: There's no reason to believe that they're not going to
Speaker 1: get even better. Edelman, a, Mandola and Gronk aren't going anywhere.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have a better running back situation next year
Speaker 1: and a solidified offensive line. They're gonna be even better
Speaker 1: ever seen under siege to dark Territory. I never even
Speaker 1: heard of it. Bad guy number two assumption is the
Speaker 1: mother of all f ups. Don't assume that the Patriots
Speaker 1: are going to go back to the super Bowl four
Speaker 1: more times. This could be Tom Brady's last great chance,
Speaker 1: and if Peyton Manning takes him down. Yeah, it would
Speaker 1: be killer. Years ago, you should have said you can't
Speaker 1: assume the Patriots gonna win the ANFC East every year.
Speaker 1: This is it for Peyton Manning, and you can talk
Speaker 1: you can talk about Tom Brady might not get back
Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl. It was last February that we
Speaker 1: talked about, after what they achieved and winning that Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: that they don't need to do anything more, that that
Speaker 1: was the crown on top of what has been an
Speaker 1: amazing pairing between a coach and a quarterback, the best
Speaker 1: coach pairing and quarterback in the league history. So that
Speaker 1: legacy is cemented. If you're Peyton Manning and you fizzle
Speaker 1: out after this embarrassing season and you just go out
Speaker 1: quietly against the Patriots, what are you gonna do. If anything,
Speaker 1: you come back next season with Bill O'Brien's Texans and
Speaker 1: play nine games before going out with some sort of
Speaker 1: an injury. It is an embarrassing end for one of
Speaker 1: the best quarterbacks of our time. So I don't understand
Speaker 1: how we're saying that Brady, who's got another probably four
Speaker 1: years to play. It's an assumption, but we're certainly not
Speaker 1: going to assume that that Peyton Manning is going to
Speaker 1: play another four years. He's probably done after this game.
Speaker 1: So do you want to go out with a win
Speaker 1: or a loss? I I don't think it's. I am
Speaker 1: torn on what's the answer to this question, but I
Speaker 1: don't think it's it's a crazy thought to go with Manning.
Speaker 1: And it's just because Peyton Manning. Right now, you know,
Speaker 1: we talk about the Patriots playing house money. I do
Speaker 1: think we're at the point where no one's going to
Speaker 1: think differently of Peyton Manning at this point if they
Speaker 1: lose this game. If they lose this game, it'll be
Speaker 1: what's expected that already lost. He's try telling that to
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. That's like, I think he's the number one
Speaker 1: person that would disagree with the fact that he can
Speaker 1: just do whatever. There's no pressure on him. If you're
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, listen to his words after each one of
Speaker 1: these games where he knows he's not the same player,
Speaker 1: he feels completely, seems completely Tom Bradens in the height
Speaker 1: of his powers, I could say his legacy is cemented
Speaker 1: after last year. Ask him how he'll feel if he
Speaker 1: gets beat in this game. But they'll be back in
Speaker 1: the same game back five Monarly, the anti Payton argument,
Speaker 1: the only bullet in somebody making that argument's gun is
Speaker 1: that he doesn't have success in the postseason, so for
Speaker 1: him to lose another game in the postseason to that
Speaker 1: person more ammunition. That's never argument that's made against Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: so it doesn't sting quite the same way. Nice I'd
Speaker 1: like to see someone try to make that argument against
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. That would be fun, but the playoffs that
Speaker 1: he's not as good in the place. Plus, someone could
Speaker 1: make the argument after this and it would be stupid.
Speaker 1: If Peyton Manny and the Colts, I mean the Broncos
Speaker 1: win this game, would be like, well, at least Peyton Manny,
Speaker 1: he's got a winning record against Tom Brady in the playoffs.
Speaker 1: People get a little carried away with winning records, but
Speaker 1: that would be a true, true statement. Then he would
Speaker 1: head and asked him if they run on batteries. He
Speaker 1: would also have won three out of four AFC title games,
Speaker 1: so it would be pretty a big deal if he
Speaker 1: somehow did win this game. But I think obviously the
Speaker 1: Pats are the heavy favorite here. I mean, we all
Speaker 1: know that. We'll see how it plays out. Greg shrugs
Speaker 1: his shoulder. He doesn't think you there are three point favorites.
Speaker 1: Vegas knows more than Vegas knows more than us that wait,
Speaker 1: you're the same guy who who said it would be
Speaker 1: we like it was crazy when I made an argument
Speaker 1: that the Packers could beat the Cardinals. Oh that's crazy,
Speaker 1: or it's crazy to make an argument that that you
Speaker 1: that none of us even thought they'd be competitive. None
Speaker 1: of us thought the Vikings would be competitive. Our predictions
Speaker 1: are who. What we think is gonna go into the
Speaker 1: game is meaning less. Vegas knows the truth three points
Speaker 1: that they're not heavy favorites. All gonna be taking off
Speaker 1: the podcast at Greg uh So, good talk, guys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see. Here's the good thing, guys, we get to
Speaker 1: see the game play out. That is a great bonus,
Speaker 1: a solid tag. Thank you. See I could do this
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Speaker 1: all that loyalty if you could put up I don't
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Speaker 1: Let's hit it up a lot of good stuff and
Speaker 1: we'll start with m hmmm, what do we want to
Speaker 1: start with? Ah? I love this one. This is from
Speaker 1: oh a great listener of ours, Tom at Budgee is here.
Speaker 1: I think Tom has made almost every mail bag on
Speaker 1: this and that's a testament to his acumen in this
Speaker 1: uh particular field. If the Cards go on to win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, what will the heroes do to commemorate
Speaker 1: the t of around the NFL question? I mean, we
Speaker 1: have to, we need to make donations to local charities
Speaker 1: which we got to get around to um for the
Speaker 1: teams we stuck a fork in this year. But how
Speaker 1: about this, if we picked the team of a t
Speaker 1: N back in September, they win the whole damn thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that. I think at that point they give
Speaker 1: us something. I don't think it's about doing something to
Speaker 1: commemorate them. They should turn around and say, wait a minute.
Speaker 1: This group of sears way back when and now West
Speaker 1: probably deserves the most credit because he fought the hardest
Speaker 1: for the Cardinals to get in. Maybe the Cardinals need
Speaker 1: to come back to this podcast. And gifts. I don't
Speaker 1: know what form of gifts, any form like Jeff's like
Speaker 1: a moving No, a gift like presence, full confidence that
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Speaker 1: Next question from not T w not T Wagner twag
Speaker 1: eight six. If you could take an unlimited paid sabbatical
Speaker 1: to write one book of your choice, what would the
Speaker 1: subject be? Saucy will start with lindsay on this one,
Speaker 1: do you want me to come around to you? All right?
Speaker 1: Start with West because I know he's got seven books
Speaker 1: in his mind. I think at this point it would
Speaker 1: be a book about football. But ultimately, if it was
Speaker 1: later in my life, I would like to write fiction,
Speaker 1: and it would be about a lot of the philosophy
Speaker 1: that I spout on this very podcast about flawed women
Speaker 1: west philosophy. But but so would it be like meditations
Speaker 1: from like West. You know, Chris Wesley think I think
Speaker 1: west is uh. I think he's doing it. I think
Speaker 1: he's hinting at a memoir. Please dear all right, dear Jesus,
Speaker 1: Dear Jesus and heaven, if you could give me one thing,
Speaker 1: a Chris Westling memoir that if we're still doing a show,
Speaker 1: I could read passages live on air. Dear Jesus, I
Speaker 1: love you, thank you well. The only fictional memoir I
Speaker 1: know of is a fan Fans Notes by Fred Exley,
Speaker 1: and it's my favorite book. So maybe fictional memoirs the
Speaker 1: way to go, Mark. I think I would write a
Speaker 1: mystery type book with um like Nancy Nancy Drew as
Speaker 1: an adult where like having been a child, detective really
Speaker 1: waged war on her and she she's like the laughing
Speaker 1: stock of all her twenties something friends. And he remember
Speaker 1: her father was like a district attorney. I think it
Speaker 1: starts with him found dead and they're calling it a suicide,
Speaker 1: but she's got to save her father's honor with one
Speaker 1: final case that also allows her to move into womanhood
Speaker 1: that requires an incredibly large magnifying glass. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: know a lot of thought into that. I'm looking he
Speaker 1: definitely had that planned already before. You know, I have
Speaker 1: thought about that for a long time. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: not something I just I'd love to hear Mark's take
Speaker 1: on womanhood in general. So far, both the books touch
Speaker 1: on women at some point. Greg, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't think I could write a book of You'd probably
Speaker 1: have to be football related. But maybe I'll go I'll
Speaker 1: change the question and instead I'll just be starting over
Speaker 1: as a tennis blogger traveling the world. I'll start the
Speaker 1: eight the eight NFL of tennis, because it wouldn't be
Speaker 1: a good enough writer to pull off. Do you have
Speaker 1: any hot takes about the scandal right now? Tearing apart
Speaker 1: your beloved tennis? That's a pretty much I think it's
Speaker 1: pretty minor. Greg's Gregg's response to any scandal touching something
Speaker 1: he likes, the top players potentially throwing matches, but it
Speaker 1: really wasn't. It wasn't anything new. It wasn't anything new,
Speaker 1: and it was like it's at the minor minor minor
Speaker 1: leagues basis, you don't have to write a book, ba,
Speaker 1: I don't want so much work. What about a tell
Speaker 1: all about NFL network all the stuff you saw just
Speaker 1: shred everyone burn bridges stories, oral history s right. I'll
Speaker 1: do the oral history of the Patriots dynasty. You've been
Speaker 1: doing that for the last three years on this podcast.
Speaker 1: My book would be about dinosaurs next, uh, moving on?
Speaker 1: This is from Stephen Moore, Like this one at Stephen
Speaker 1: Moore nine double oh nine? How does Dan make his
Speaker 1: hair look so? Quote Hollywood from Steve and Norwich. This
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Speaker 1: pitched it to people. I was at a wedding last
Speaker 1: weekend or the weekend before, in which I told several
Speaker 1: of my cousins about it and let them try the product.
Speaker 1: Huge Redkin. Apparently Redkin is a new sponsor of the show.
Speaker 1: You don't even sell Scott Trade. That hard what I
Speaker 1: said that you can get rich off Scott Trade. That's good.
Speaker 1: Next Chris Rodriguez at good Luck Chris underscore. Will Gentle
Speaker 1: Nick ever guests appear on the show during the offsea reason?
Speaker 1: Just because does he even know that this show exists?
Speaker 1: Greg has taken Let's let's be honest, let's put all
Speaker 1: our cards on the table. Great. Greg has got great
Speaker 1: lengths to keep us from even seeing Gentle Nick. Well,
Speaker 1: why are you assuming I'm the one take? Maybe so?
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, I've you've done that show? How
Speaker 1: many of you done that? Ten or something twelve? I've
Speaker 1: still never seen the guy. I'm here every Wednesday when
Speaker 1: they take. He's met a lot of people. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think he'd love to be on the I think
Speaker 1: you'd love to come on the podcast. Maybe we could
Speaker 1: do that. Maybe that could be an offseason goal of
Speaker 1: the show. It's a very talented Lindsay and popular comedian.
Speaker 1: I'm aware Greg's best friend in the world. The Vanity Project.
Speaker 1: There you go? When is that on? Uh? It tapes
Speaker 1: on Wednesdays because of Wednesday nights. There you guess alright.
Speaker 1: This is from sports guru m UFC at simply money one.
Speaker 1: Which two people? Let's do this in a little quicker
Speaker 1: which two people are alive? Would they? Would they? Or
Speaker 1: you like to go out drinking with Mark Uh, Jack
Speaker 1: Carroll Whack and maybe Jack Kennedy. Kennedy was on my
Speaker 1: list too. Just a little awkward, Mark Cessler and Dan
Speaker 1: Hanses not awkward at all, So cute Greg. Now I
Speaker 1: feel bad because I wasn't gonna say I have no answer. Okay,
Speaker 1: I will go with Kanye West and Mike Francessa. What
Speaker 1: are you drinking? I don't know. That's why I would
Speaker 1: be so exciting. Who knows? I don't know. What does
Speaker 1: Kanye drink? I don't know. Three thousand dollars bottle of
Speaker 1: champagne probably and about two to that. Oh I don't
Speaker 1: do those. I just think that would be interesting, you know.
Speaker 1: Next up from Manly, where is the one that I
Speaker 1: am anticipating? Oh? You want to do that one? Next? Okay? Sorry,
Speaker 1: I mean all of these, like what book would you write?
Speaker 1: Let's start with like book would you read? Lets This
Speaker 1: from David Ealely downstairs, our editor, who would be the
Speaker 1: best current NFL player as a bachelor contestant, and who
Speaker 1: would be the worst? The floor is yours, Lindsay Rogue,
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, best Rob Gronkowski, Rob Gronkowski. Jacuzzi
Speaker 1: is on the rag Is brothers come in and and
Speaker 1: are like, Oh, we're going to decide which girl gets
Speaker 1: the one on one. I mean, that would be amazing television.
Speaker 1: It's hard to argue. I don't know. The only thing
Speaker 1: I would worry about is that the Patriots would clamp
Speaker 1: it and and either have them edit the show or
Speaker 1: something worse. But if he's allowed to do what he wants,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, yeah, you have to assume it. They
Speaker 1: can do this show how they want. I think Cam
Speaker 1: Newton would be a good one. It would drive people crazy,
Speaker 1: but I would like that too. Would be a lot
Speaker 1: of entertainment. And he just had a child baby with
Speaker 1: his long term girlfriend home wrecker whatever. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: I shoe chose, that's something that actually happened. Everybody, Um,
Speaker 1: I have the worst one. H Russell Wilson. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh that's such a great call. I totally agree. He
Speaker 1: would be just as bad as every other bachelor in
Speaker 1: the history of television. These are amazing women. Maybe yeah,
Speaker 1: does Tim Tebow qualify for this or since he's doing anymore?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like maybe he would be worse. But
Speaker 1: here's the thing said, and you know you're you're a
Speaker 1: good girl and an innocent girl. I don't want to
Speaker 1: really delve into deep here, but hr calling Tebow is
Speaker 1: a man that practices his faith as abstinence. Uh isn't
Speaker 1: wasn't the question who would be the worst batch? Oh? Worst?
Speaker 1: I heear you're saying best? No? I thought that we're
Speaker 1: talking about Russell Wilson. Yeah, you're right, I'm with you
Speaker 1: on that. But would Russell Wilson end every day with
Speaker 1: Go Hawks? So many brand managers would be on set? Um,
Speaker 1: you know I was, But that was good. The Grock
Speaker 1: one is good. But the winner it's Clipboard. Jesus, it's
Speaker 1: Charlie Whitehurst because he's dating Jewel. Okay, we have I mean,
Speaker 1: how I mean, how could you the hair, the hat,
Speaker 1: the style, the personality, he's already well I want to
Speaker 1: know that he has the personality. I know he's got
Speaker 1: like the like the long hair, and he's bad at
Speaker 1: his job, but like and he also he knows how
Speaker 1: to play acoustic guitar he's learning. Imagine the scene where
Speaker 1: he's playing Glysserene sitting by the fire. Chris Harrison's right there.
Speaker 1: It's like, man, that sounds great jazz, and then all
Speaker 1: the girls just swooning. How about Lashawn McCoy. He's already
Speaker 1: got practice inviting all female parties or whatever I want
Speaker 1: guest on Total Access today, so he's going to be
Speaker 1: in the building. So oh, he's a great guy. Usually
Speaker 1: it seems like I haven't really watched The Bachelor, but
Speaker 1: usually it seems like they pick like the most wooden,
Speaker 1: sort of like plain person you can pick up, so
Speaker 1: that the women who watched the show can basically project
Speaker 1: anything they want onto him. That accurate, that's fair to say. Also,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're a nice enough guy that you're
Speaker 1: going to be a good Bachelor candidate right your marriage
Speaker 1: material from a network standpoint, then you're gonna be careful
Speaker 1: not to say anything mean about anyone on television. And
Speaker 1: so there's really just nothing real about worst candidate disaster.
Speaker 1: He'd get rid of everybody good. That's true. Everyone you're
Speaker 1: rooting for at home. No Rose, it's his own team building. Come,
Speaker 1: there would be something of Riley Cooper's like, there would
Speaker 1: be something fun though about having like a middle aged
Speaker 1: guy who's clearly never going to be home and be
Speaker 1: a terrible husband, be the bachelor, Like who wants to
Speaker 1: be a coach's wife? You will never see your husband
Speaker 1: if you have kids, they will never see him. But
Speaker 1: there'd be plenty of people who would love love to
Speaker 1: be part of the life. And who knows me, I'm
Speaker 1: sure there'd be people that go on the show. Um.
Speaker 1: Next up, this is from Manly J. Panda. Uh, do
Speaker 1: you have any interest in learning how to correctly pronounce
Speaker 1: the Italian words you use? People often think that's Italian,
Speaker 1: that's just a made up phrase entirely, or are they
Speaker 1: thinking of wes cognescente cogniscentate. That sounds right, that's in
Speaker 1: English word. What was this person's name, Michael Panda? I
Speaker 1: don't know, Manly J. Panda. I believe so. The answer,
Speaker 1: I guess is no. Accurate is not what Dan's usually
Speaker 1: looking for in his impression. It's not just me. I
Speaker 1: think he was saying the whole group. Maybe it was me.
Speaker 1: Will at w B underscored two to two. Which fan
Speaker 1: base have you guys? Blocked the most on Twitter. I
Speaker 1: don't block a ton of people. This more question for
Speaker 1: Wes all time Seahawks by far because they are a
Speaker 1: sheet mentality herd who brings out their army of social
Speaker 1: media clowns to defend. You cannot mention another young quarterback
Speaker 1: without bringing up Russell Wilson because I think everything is
Speaker 1: about their team this year. Panthers by far, because of
Speaker 1: the bandwagon is fan base on Earth, and they have
Speaker 1: a really big inferiority complex and I'm tired of them.
Speaker 1: It's about me, all right. Don't take that line down,
Speaker 1: Panthers fans. You came in second overall, so try to
Speaker 1: try to catch up exactly. Good answer, Victor triumph at
Speaker 1: VT triumph, something like that, Greg. What will the salty
Speaker 1: New England fans blame when they lose against Manning in
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship for the third time? The Throne of Chaos?
Speaker 1: Oh no, listen to that lizard. Oh no, that is
Speaker 1: a lot of death and carnage. That's like a plane
Speaker 1: crash and like a shark attack happened at the same time.
Speaker 1: They won't be blaming anyone. A couple of weeks later,
Speaker 1: when Manning gets blasted. They'll feel like maybe we dodged
Speaker 1: the bullet, just like in two thousand thirteen with Circus
Speaker 1: on Uh. Next up, This is from It's a good question,
Speaker 1: Football Question Jackson Smith at Damn Sun twenty nine. Most
Speaker 1: likely team to go from first place in their division
Speaker 1: to last and out of the playoffs. Uh, quickly pulling
Speaker 1: up the final standings of the NFL season. So first
Speaker 1: out of the playoffs Patriots, Bengals, Texans, Broncos, Redskins, Vikings, Panthers,
Speaker 1: and Cardinals. Most likely to go in last place. I
Speaker 1: will it's gonna get the Kissing Cousins upset, but I'll
Speaker 1: say the Redskins. I'll say the Redskins. I will say
Speaker 1: the Texans because they may not even have any of
Speaker 1: their quarterbacks for next season on the roster and that
Speaker 1: division is an absolute nightmare. I'll give the Redskins a
Speaker 1: slight edge because the Titans are still alive in the
Speaker 1: a f C South to come into last. All right,
Speaker 1: Very true. Uh, let's see she's got that one. A
Speaker 1: couple more. Oh, here's a good question. Um, when will
Speaker 1: Chris Westling? This is from Stephen Moore. Also what about
Speaker 1: your hair? Big job? By more Today, when will West
Speaker 1: get a nice girl and settle down? From Steve Norwich, UK, West,
Speaker 1: what is going on in your love life? I had
Speaker 1: a really nice date last night. She well, this girl
Speaker 1: is delightful. First of all, we see have a podcast
Speaker 1: that you're talking about it on m okay with that
Speaker 1: she might, so she knew it had. Everything's been going great,
Speaker 1: she tells me when she meets she looks fantastic. She's
Speaker 1: wearing a black and white dress, high heeled boots, and
Speaker 1: I'm I'm dressed like I'm still living on an island
Speaker 1: of two thousand people, you know, ball cap just to
Speaker 1: break a little shirt, all right. So she tells me, well,
Speaker 1: everything's going so well. So even if we even if
Speaker 1: one of us pukes on the other, like you're you're
Speaker 1: still getting a second date out of this. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh great, wow, so you have to test
Speaker 1: her out. So she invited you to vomit on her.
Speaker 1: I didn't take it as an invitation. I didn't follow
Speaker 1: through on it. So wait, hold on. We just glossed
Speaker 1: over with Dan said, is it love? It's premature? Do
Speaker 1: you want to know what love is? I do want
Speaker 1: to know what love is it's premature for all that.
Speaker 1: But this is the she's like a dual threat date.
Speaker 1: So she looks so fantastic. We gotta test out her
Speaker 1: throwing arm because this is what you do with women.
Speaker 1: She's got like as she's got like a Kaepernick s
Speaker 1: delivery and strength and little bit like scatter date maneuver
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, you got local high school And no, no,
Speaker 1: we might have been doing I llegal activities with the
Speaker 1: throwing arm because I like to at the end of dates. Second,
Speaker 1: I got to break a few rules. I just did
Speaker 1: the Bruce Arians double takes. Well, we might have been
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta break a few rules. See if
Speaker 1: they like to have fun as much as you do.
Speaker 1: And you know, at the end of the night, you
Speaker 1: can't just abide by society's rules because you want to
Speaker 1: have you want. What does that mean? What I missed
Speaker 1: something I don't. I'm not going to have a cohort you.
Speaker 1: You broke some laws. Well, maybe maybe we can talk
Speaker 1: off air on that. I don't want but to have
Speaker 1: to go to the here one last thing, and I
Speaker 1: don't know if this is something for on air off
Speaker 1: so you know we can cut it if you want.
Speaker 1: But are you concerned about the some of the geographical
Speaker 1: issues right now for you? Uh, lindsay, I believe you're
Speaker 1: from Orange County originally, So is this woman? Uh? Is
Speaker 1: that after? Sorry? Well, I think it's it's something that
Speaker 1: can be overcome. You know, I don't know, like drive
Speaker 1: to her on this day, but I'm supposed to drive
Speaker 1: down there or make my way. If that is your
Speaker 1: biggest obstacle to hop over, you're gonna be. You're gonna
Speaker 1: figure that out. That's not a huge issue. I think
Speaker 1: it's important when you are looking for a prospect to
Speaker 1: find someone who can pull off a heist with you,
Speaker 1: and you know, she showed those qualities. I like. I
Speaker 1: like getting the update on West's love love life, but
Speaker 1: I don't like the presumption in the question as if
Speaker 1: settling down is somehow the only to her in a happy,
Speaker 1: happy answer. It's like people ask like people that don't
Speaker 1: have kids, what are you gonna have kids? It's like,
Speaker 1: maybe I don't want to have kids. Shut the f up.
Speaker 1: It's like there's a lot of different options. Greg always
Speaker 1: has to go cynical. Greg, I'm just saying I think
Speaker 1: I would I would find it annoying that's if that's presumed.
Speaker 1: I do want to have kids with the right woman,
Speaker 1: but you know that hadn't come along, and she might
Speaker 1: be it. That's what I just learned. Well, like I said,
Speaker 1: she's a dual threat day and a delight so mystery. Yeah,
Speaker 1: or she's staring at her at her phone right now
Speaker 1: playing this podcast slack job, amazed that this is all
Speaker 1: coming up, and she she'll never call you back. It
Speaker 1: can go either way. Really, you gotta take chances in life.
Speaker 1: I'd like to swing for the fences. And finally, this
Speaker 1: from Jeez, Lindsay is a professional broadcaster. Lindsey, what is
Speaker 1: this person's name? We don't read names? Your professional? Do
Speaker 1: it one? Well? Delay up Hecca at Wanda lay Oh?
Speaker 1: Now how about a hey, hey to a new NFL
Speaker 1: fan from South Africa still trying to learn the game
Speaker 1: and listening to a t N podcast is helping a
Speaker 1: great deal? Hey, hey, hey, there you go. That is
Speaker 1: let's close up the mailbag. Now it's closed. Thank god
Speaker 1: that you closed it up. But I gotta work out
Speaker 1: at the same time. It's good. Uh. What do we
Speaker 1: learned today? Lindsay Rhodes the Bachelor loves the bachelor hates
Speaker 1: fat shaming and I know that was sensitive. Lindsay High
Speaker 1: it was. We liked it. UH and as always entertaining company. UH.
Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast is here. NFL Total Access
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Speaker 1: pm Eastern time. UH and you'll be heading I assume
Speaker 1: as the face of t A to San Francisco next week.
Speaker 1: We are headed to San Francisco Monday of Super Bowl Week?
Speaker 1: Is that next two weeks from now? So make sure
Speaker 1: you check out Lindsay and of course at at Lindsay Road.
Speaker 1: I don't know where it came from. Sneaks in every
Speaker 1: once in a while ship this entire broadcast to human resources.
Speaker 1: They'll have a lot of swords through. So there we go, Francisco. HU.
Speaker 1: We will be back on Thursday. We'll we'll dig in
Speaker 1: earnest to the two matchups on Sunday, so make sure
Speaker 1: you check that out until then. This is Dan Hansis
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