Speaker 1: From the fort in a second grade handoff, and I said,
Speaker 1: ils sending to Lynch, him to the secondary. Still Lynch,
Speaker 1: and he was in the top for the touchdowns. He's
Speaker 1: looking long, he's launching it down for locks for the touchdown.
Speaker 1: Mars Shawn Lynch and Russell Wilson taken care of business
Speaker 1: in San Francisco. The Seattle Seahawks win twenty to three
Speaker 1: on Thursday Night Football and the game didn't feel that close. Um,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, I'm with Chris Wesley and we are here
Speaker 1: the Thursday Night Crew to talk about a lackluster game.
Speaker 1: And then we're gonna send it uh to Dan Hansas
Speaker 1: and the three of us are gonna talk about all
Speaker 1: the Week seven games, and we're gonna get Connor Or
Speaker 1: and Mark Sessler on the horn from London. That'll be cool.
Speaker 1: But first let's talk a little Thursday Night football. This game,
Speaker 1: we didn't expect it to be close, and it was
Speaker 1: ridiculos less lee not close. The tone was set early
Speaker 1: on the Seahawks side. Nine Marshawn Lynch runs on the
Speaker 1: opening drive alone five inside the three yard line, and
Speaker 1: then from the forty Niners side, Colin Kaepernick inauspicious start
Speaker 1: beating uh equipment guy in the head ten yards deep
Speaker 1: on the sideline, and the equipment guy, according to the
Speaker 1: Sacramento b had to get checked out by the Medical States. Well,
Speaker 1: that was one of three Kaepernick passes that sailed deep
Speaker 1: into the sideline. I mean, at one point you just
Speaker 1: yelled out like Colin Kaepernick is a danger to everyone
Speaker 1: everyone in the stadium, Like he's uh, a health advisory
Speaker 1: should be around him when he's throwing those passes. And
Speaker 1: it was almost mallet like with with the way that
Speaker 1: he just throws these fastballs, even for short passes, and
Speaker 1: just was really inaccurate and really clueless for what to
Speaker 1: do on the third and long and he had a
Speaker 1: lot of third and longs tonight, and it it just
Speaker 1: felt like the the the play was even over before
Speaker 1: it started. He either got sacked or he just dumped
Speaker 1: it off for a two yard gain on third and twelve.
Speaker 1: He got no help. Really the the right sign of
Speaker 1: the right side of San Francisco's line with Jordan Devi
Speaker 1: and Eric Pierce and you can throw in the center
Speaker 1: to Marcus Martin just got worked over by Cliff Avril
Speaker 1: and Michael Bennett and then the forty Niners wide receivers
Speaker 1: had two more catches than the forty quarter cornerbacks. It
Speaker 1: was just happened. It got very little help at all. Well,
Speaker 1: some of that's on Kaepernick and Clint Balden didn't help
Speaker 1: him by jogging through some routes. He did not look
Speaker 1: a d percent. Vernon Davis had his best, you know,
Speaker 1: game of the career. But it's I give all the
Speaker 1: credit to the Seahawks defense. I mean, Michael Bennett, who
Speaker 1: have been talking up, has been having a great season,
Speaker 1: really showed up on the statue tonight. Three tackles for lost,
Speaker 1: three and a half sex. Uh. Your boy. Cliff Avril,
Speaker 1: who's arguably been the most consistent defender on the team,
Speaker 1: had had a big night as well. Yeah, they look
Speaker 1: to me, the Seahawks like they're back. They're back to
Speaker 1: being a playoff contender. I don't really knock them too
Speaker 1: much for losing to undefeated teams the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Then again, I don't think are
Speaker 1: a measuring stick, but I thought the Seahawks were a
Speaker 1: talented playoff team before this. Well, the one difference tonight
Speaker 1: was the running game, and I think They've shown signs
Speaker 1: the last two weeks really of run blocking better, and
Speaker 1: I think Marshawn Lynch looked a little better last week,
Speaker 1: and I think he looked the best that he's looked
Speaker 1: all season tonight, a lot of juice coming off the injury.
Speaker 1: It just seems like he's all the way back from
Speaker 1: whatever he was. It was the re established your identity
Speaker 1: performance for the Seahawks. It was they have to feel good.
Speaker 1: I mean, it reminded me so much of the third
Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving Night game last year, which was nineteen to three.
Speaker 1: And that's the same Seahawks style of play. That's basically
Speaker 1: what they do even when they when they win, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna be crazy, although this could have been. I
Speaker 1: mean it was two hundred sixty nine yards to fifty
Speaker 1: nine in the first half. The only reason the score
Speaker 1: is even this close is Russell Wilson, who other wise
Speaker 1: had a very good night I would say very sharp,
Speaker 1: had two really ugly interceptions that that killed Drives. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they have a chance for a momentum they draw
Speaker 1: the Matt Castle led led Cowboys next week, and then
Speaker 1: the box Well, how do you know, I mean, you're
Speaker 1: saying Matt Castle led like that's a bad thing for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. Maybe that's maybe a certainly a great thing
Speaker 1: for the seas Maybe Matt Castle is gonna leader rejuvenation.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I don't want to spoil anything later in
Speaker 1: the show. Uh So, I guess that's it. I think
Speaker 1: we I think the forty Niners are just they are.
Speaker 1: They're the worst team in the NFC West by far.
Speaker 1: They've put it up three of the worst performances we've
Speaker 1: seen by any team all year. They are only four
Speaker 1: times all year has have teams had ten first downs
Speaker 1: are less in a game, and three of those games
Speaker 1: were by the forty Niners. When they're when they play badly,
Speaker 1: nobody looks worse. It's amazing. Not that long ago Colin Kaepernick,
Speaker 1: uh would have been taken by people like myself and
Speaker 1: and others as as the guy if you're looking long term,
Speaker 1: Kaepernick or Russell Wilson, Like who do you take? And
Speaker 1: now it's like Kaepernick, I don't even know if he's
Speaker 1: gonna be on the team next year. Yeah, that's it's
Speaker 1: telling how far he's fallen. So that's it for the Seahawks.
Speaker 1: Three over the forty Niners. Let's get it to Dan
Speaker 1: and the rest of the week seven sleep Do you
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast doesn't watch soccer? Welcome back to
Speaker 1: another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. My name
Speaker 1: is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by a room
Speaker 1: filled up some heroes. Christopher Westling to my left, Gregory
Speaker 1: Rose withalt to my right. Not Gregory, not Gregory. Hey Dan,
Speaker 1: Sorry I cut off the Hey Dan. That's all right. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I forgot about that. It's double G and that's it.
Speaker 1: That's all it says. The second G takes the place
Speaker 1: of the I feel y by the way. That's it.
Speaker 1: Unnecessarily hostile intro. We do watch soccer, and uh and
Speaker 1: to put it on the same week as the London game,
Speaker 1: you know we're we're obviously soccer the biggest sports. Seems
Speaker 1: like an unnecessary show. I love soccer. Now I'm into soccer. Well,
Speaker 1: let's come down. You don't love it. You don't watch
Speaker 1: I love watching. I loved getting into it. If I
Speaker 1: had more time, if I was younger, you know, I
Speaker 1: would really get into If you're a younger man, I
Speaker 1: played soccer. You were good. I've heard you were a
Speaker 1: good soccer player. Was I think I leved my team
Speaker 1: and goals every year I played. I'm a lefty, actually
Speaker 1: I'm both. I imagine with my feet. I imagine it
Speaker 1: was the type. You know, you're kind of hear that, ladies,
Speaker 1: you're kind of like the male version of Abby Womback,
Speaker 1: like a big bruiser, pushing people around and getting some
Speaker 1: headers near the goal. I've been told I I bear
Speaker 1: a resemblance to Wayne Rooney. M hm. Do they have
Speaker 1: enforcers in soccer? No? I mean, well they probably do.
Speaker 1: What do I know? So? This is the this is
Speaker 1: the Thursday night, early Friday edition of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast. You just heard, uh, Wes and Greg recap
Speaker 1: the Thursday night NFC West matchup between the Seattle Seahawks
Speaker 1: and San Francisco forty Niners. Uh, that is one of
Speaker 1: let's see here, four teams on BIBRAE that's correct case.
Speaker 1: So that means that means fourteen games. That means one
Speaker 1: played already, makest. So we got thirteen games to talk
Speaker 1: about today. But what about the London game? Doesn't that
Speaker 1: change things? What does that have to do with anything? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, the time difference. I thought maybe jet like
Speaker 1: I don't know, if that just changes the math, I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Listen. As I said, I once got
Speaker 1: a thirty nine on a state mandated math tests. So
Speaker 1: don't bring in the idea of time and space. I'm
Speaker 1: just unnecessary. I'm just looking forward to going across the
Speaker 1: pond for the first time ever in Around the NFL
Speaker 1: podcast history. That is good, and we will get Connor
Speaker 1: and Mark on the phone. That's that will be exciting. Uh.
Speaker 1: What else is going on today before we came up? Uh? Greg,
Speaker 1: you did a nice little spot in Around the NFL
Speaker 1: the television show. By the way, Drew Ceciliano. Uh, we'll
Speaker 1: be on the show a little later. He'll talk some
Speaker 1: football with us, which makes sense because this is a
Speaker 1: football podcast. Uh. You were on the television show today
Speaker 1: with Andrew talking about your watchability index rankings. I don't know,
Speaker 1: I have got a lot of rankings. Had that go, Greg?
Speaker 1: It was great, It's fantastic. Yeah, well let's say it. Mark,
Speaker 1: this is now the Entourage, the Vinny Chase. You know,
Speaker 1: give me him, Vinny, did you get to get the
Speaker 1: old Acklaman? It's great. I I taped the hit just
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen feet away from your guys. Desk in
Speaker 1: our newsroom, and it's it's wonderful to hear the you know,
Speaker 1: the support of you know, some of my good friends.
Speaker 1: UM at a moment when I'm you know, trying to
Speaker 1: do you know, concentrate and you know, trying to make
Speaker 1: sure I'm not nervous, it's great that you guys are
Speaker 1: so supportive right near me. I can like feel that,
Speaker 1: especially coming from Dan. Wow, I'm really happy for you
Speaker 1: that you're that you're up there. I like, I hope,
Speaker 1: I'm hope, not hoping you do poorly at all, so
Speaker 1: that you know they don't bring you back. Turtle, how's
Speaker 1: your sneakers scheme going? I think I'm every nobody wants
Speaker 1: to be Turtle Marks Turtle, that's not right. It's out
Speaker 1: of here. It was no. It was good though, Mark,
Speaker 1: greg you talked about your watchability scale where the Jets
Speaker 1: are a little too low in my opinion, but make
Speaker 1: sure you check that out. It might have been that
Speaker 1: might have been unfair. We did get one just since
Speaker 1: it was hashtag watch rankings, the number one team on
Speaker 1: his list. That's one of the worst quarterbacks in the unit.
Speaker 1: But they play fun games to watch and it's there
Speaker 1: it's interesting. I've seen what the Peyton Manny and the
Speaker 1: Broncos because every game is down to the wire and
Speaker 1: the defense is great and Wade Phillips and it's fun
Speaker 1: to watch. I like to see Peyton Manning kind of
Speaker 1: trying to figure that's a classic twenty one century Greg
Speaker 1: knows that he's doing. He's been working on the internet
Speaker 1: for a while. You get the people talking whether whether
Speaker 1: they you know, I didn't think agree. If you get
Speaker 1: people click king and tweeting and hitting that common sex show,
Speaker 1: you're doing your job. You're basically saying he's the Skip
Speaker 1: Bayliss of digital content. I'll give you a bag. You know.
Speaker 1: The proof is in the pudding. I assigned that game
Speaker 1: to myself last week because I wanted to watch some
Speaker 1: Broncos Browns. So we have, as I said, we have
Speaker 1: thirteen games to get to. So why don't we do it?
Speaker 1: Why don't we get going? And we'll start with the
Speaker 1: early games as we always do. Uh, we'll start with
Speaker 1: the No Aldens Saints, who got a really big win
Speaker 1: on third last Thursday over the Falcons, breaking the falcons
Speaker 1: um perfect start to their season. Unfortunately for the Saints,
Speaker 1: there's still only two and four, and now they travel
Speaker 1: to Indianapolis to face the cults. The cults. You know,
Speaker 1: they put up a nice fight against the Patriots. They
Speaker 1: didn't get embarrassed, which I guess makes it a victory.
Speaker 1: But then they embarrass themselves with the what w T F? Fake?
Speaker 1: Is that? What is that? What everybody named it? There
Speaker 1: were a few snap food was the one from Bill Barnwell.
Speaker 1: I liked that's not bad? Um so? Yes, so the
Speaker 1: Colts um uh fell to three and three, but that's
Speaker 1: still first place in a f C South. Greg, we'll
Speaker 1: start with you on this. When you saw from Drew
Speaker 1: Brees and company, does that give you hope, I know you,
Speaker 1: like your closet Saints fan on some level, hope that
Speaker 1: the Saints are gonna be a frisky team this year
Speaker 1: after a really bad start. Yeah, this is the key
Speaker 1: game or a key game for them. And if you
Speaker 1: look at their schedule, the next truly good pass rush
Speaker 1: they face is week thirteen, And I thought that was
Speaker 1: the key last week is they got the ball out
Speaker 1: of Drew Brees hands. If you can protect Breeze, I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna have a chance each in every week
Speaker 1: and the Colts don't have a great pass rush. The
Speaker 1: Colts have been consistently bad. I think the Saints have
Speaker 1: caught some bad breaks to be too and four, But
Speaker 1: I don't think they're a very good team. So the
Speaker 1: Saints fans I know this week because I follow you know,
Speaker 1: I'm friends with them and follow some of them. They're
Speaker 1: really excited that one of them they may can turn
Speaker 1: this season around. But it's like turn it around to
Speaker 1: what I think it's like turning around to eight and eight.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think them for what. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's turning around for anything exciting? So bad in
Speaker 1: best case area battle of two sore armed quarterbacks who
Speaker 1: would no longer go down the field. Yeah that's although
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck has six tds in his last five quarters
Speaker 1: after only throwing four in his first eleven quarters of
Speaker 1: the season. Maybe he's turning the turning a new page here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what do we see from Andrew looking against the Patriots?
Speaker 1: Did he look like a guy that's not close to himself?
Speaker 1: He looked like he got his His pocket presence, which
Speaker 1: was so notably off the first three games, was much
Speaker 1: more improved, and he made several nice plays on the
Speaker 1: run and and really took off from the pocket a
Speaker 1: few times and did well. I was more impressed with
Speaker 1: his legs and his arm. Well. In the second half,
Speaker 1: he reverted back to some of the things we saw
Speaker 1: in the first five weeks when he was healthy, which
Speaker 1: is that he was spraying passes. Ye. I mean, he
Speaker 1: just was missing throws and when they kind of adjusted
Speaker 1: a halftime, took away some of the underneath receivers. You know,
Speaker 1: if if they're this is a Colts team that should
Speaker 1: be throwing the ball down the field. You have Moncrief,
Speaker 1: you have Hilton, you have door set and they really
Speaker 1: haven't been a downfield team this year. That's that's what
Speaker 1: they should be. I don't think they're gonna be a
Speaker 1: great team if if they're dinking and duncan. I agree.
Speaker 1: We all picked the Colts, with the exception of Connor
Speaker 1: or who's you know, great renegade of picks. Connor went
Speaker 1: with the Saints, so he's riding heart of the Saints.
Speaker 1: I picked the Saints last week, got a hero out
Speaker 1: of it if we still did those but now Connor
Speaker 1: is going for it. Um, who knows. I feel like
Speaker 1: I don't know. I got a feeling now and they've
Speaker 1: we forked the Saints. Maybe it could be a little frisky. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe they gotta win this game. After the Colts put
Speaker 1: on him, you won't be the defense is the defense
Speaker 1: is so bad. I think they they can improve to
Speaker 1: what they've been in those disappointing Sean Payton hears it's
Speaker 1: like seven and nine. Okay, see you, but your boy, bro,
Speaker 1: it's pretty good stories of the year. Moving on the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. They will go without Ben Roethlisberger, most likely
Speaker 1: for another week. Uh Landry Jones, who came on in
Speaker 1: to replace an injured Mike Vick through two touchdown passes
Speaker 1: we talked about had a little bit in our last show.
Speaker 1: He looked pretty good, but got a lot of help
Speaker 1: from Martavis Bryan, So we don't know what we're gonna
Speaker 1: see from him now. They've traveled to Kansas City to
Speaker 1: face the Chiefs. What else can be said about the Chiefs.
Speaker 1: They're one in five, They're they're hard to watch. I
Speaker 1: I pitched the idea of not even covering them on
Speaker 1: around the NFL until they get a little more exciting,
Speaker 1: but that wouldn't be fair. The Chiefs fans create some
Speaker 1: complications because they play again another team, they play other teams.
Speaker 1: I get that, but you can only you could kind
Speaker 1: of you could play where you only really cover one
Speaker 1: of the teams in the game. You know. As boring
Speaker 1: as their offense is, I was really impressed by their
Speaker 1: defense against the Vikings. Alan Bailey have one of the
Speaker 1: best defensive end games you'll ever see in the in
Speaker 1: the run games ever shut down. I mean he tackled
Speaker 1: Peterson in the backfield himself more than once, probably three
Speaker 1: or four times. Marcus Peters, rookie cornerback, had a great game,
Speaker 1: and Justin Houston is always excellent. Yeah, they're not a
Speaker 1: bad defense. They've struggled to play, you know, make big
Speaker 1: plays in the key spots. Bailey has really had a
Speaker 1: good season overall, and boy J Howard, Howard's had a
Speaker 1: good season overall. It's it's not a team that's without talent,
Speaker 1: even on offense, and yet they find ways to lose games.
Speaker 1: I mean they're just in one of those ruts that
Speaker 1: that every game comes down to the fourth quarter and
Speaker 1: they find a way to lose each time. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the same Alex Smith We've really been seeing.
Speaker 1: It's not like he's that much worse now than he
Speaker 1: was a year ago, which is so surprising because after
Speaker 1: week one we thought he was gonna have his best
Speaker 1: year ever. Well that's why he can't pay attention a
Speaker 1: week one too much, Dane. Well, yeah, I mean week
Speaker 1: one is just one. It's one of seventeen weeks. Greg,
Speaker 1: That's the way I look at it. I was the
Speaker 1: middle doing something you hanged me out to try there. Uh,
Speaker 1: how about the Steelers, yeah's about the Steelers, same thing.
Speaker 1: I was more impressed with their defense, James Harrison in particular,
Speaker 1: but also uh, Mike Mitchell having a really good year
Speaker 1: at safety after he played through an injury last year
Speaker 1: and was kind of a disappointment. Um, their defense is
Speaker 1: way better than we expected. Yeah, especially in the secondary.
Speaker 1: I believe you said that on Sunday or during the
Speaker 1: week West, but that really struck me when I watched
Speaker 1: them too, that William Gay is playing really well. Um,
Speaker 1: and they're making plays in the secondary, whether it's Blake
Speaker 1: or Ross Cocrow sometimes, although he gave up some big
Speaker 1: plays and had some penalties against the Cardinals too. They
Speaker 1: I mean, they deserve credit. I know they got a
Speaker 1: little help on against the Cardinals, but to hold them,
Speaker 1: you know, in terms of some penalties and miss field
Speaker 1: goal um. But they made big plays to hold the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: And I know they were giving up a ton of
Speaker 1: yards that whole game, but it's about the scoreboard, and
Speaker 1: they only gave up thirteen points to that juggernaut of
Speaker 1: a team is an amazing feet. I don't care how
Speaker 1: they did it, how many yards they gave up. I
Speaker 1: just may I switched my pick to the Chiefs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that makes sense. I um trying not to
Speaker 1: make a pick here. Yeah, I kind of didn't. Uh,
Speaker 1: I didn't put too much thought into it, I guess initially.
Speaker 1: But you know, like like you were saying west with
Speaker 1: Landry Jones, people are getting excited, Oh he should have
Speaker 1: been playing over Michael Vick the whole time and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. We still didn't see a ton from him
Speaker 1: to think that he's able to play. And that's I don't.
Speaker 1: I know. The Chiefs are not good this season or
Speaker 1: they and now they have no Jamal Charles, which makes
Speaker 1: things worse. But that's still a tough place to win
Speaker 1: a game, and you're sending a kid in there with
Speaker 1: hardly any experience that's gonna be a tough game to win.
Speaker 1: He looked more poised than than I expected. He was
Speaker 1: under control. Um Like you know, Mike Tomlin, I believe said,
Speaker 1: he just did what he was supposed to do and
Speaker 1: didn't get offer any more praise than that. And that's
Speaker 1: that's how you grade that performance. Well, he had some
Speaker 1: ugly he had a couple of ugly throws, but he
Speaker 1: also had you know, a third and twelve, you know,
Speaker 1: nice throw into his own coverage, and he had a
Speaker 1: very good timing throw on a back shoulder one to
Speaker 1: mark Tavis Bryant. Those are NFL throws. That that was
Speaker 1: a deep out where he's throwing the ball with anticipation
Speaker 1: before the receiver does something. And he has something that
Speaker 1: Michael Vick you know, only had for a couple of
Speaker 1: quarters and that Ben Roethlisberger didn't have all season. And
Speaker 1: that's Martavis Bryant, who for one game looked like a
Speaker 1: top ten you know. That was an amazing Yeah, he
Speaker 1: had an awesome game, amazing performance because he showed you everything.
Speaker 1: He had a diving catch, he had the leaping touchdown catch,
Speaker 1: he had the yak I mean, he had the he
Speaker 1: looked tough. I mean he adds another potential, you know,
Speaker 1: not number one receiver, but a great number two receiver.
Speaker 1: Fantasy tip. I don't get fantasy tips on Twitter, but
Speaker 1: on the podcast I will. Okay, if you're not trying
Speaker 1: to steal Antonio Brown from his owner right now, you're not,
Speaker 1: You're not doing it right. And if before Big Ben
Speaker 1: gets back and then he starts averaging ten catches a
Speaker 1: game again, and if you're too stupid where you're looking
Speaker 1: to trade Antonio Brown a week before Big Ben comes back,
Speaker 1: you shouldn't be in the league anyway. But people are stupid,
Speaker 1: That's true. We got de Marco Murray for a backup
Speaker 1: tight end. You got yeah. I mean it's an upset
Speaker 1: is getting mentioned again, but you I mean you guys
Speaker 1: should be all the way for that. Not a lot
Speaker 1: of vine trap by the way, I think I could.
Speaker 1: The commissioner should have stopped that. I mean, that's like
Speaker 1: booting out of the league. I did, Patrick um just
Speaker 1: for the idea of um, you know, posterity. I did
Speaker 1: send out a full breakdown on Twitter of our front
Speaker 1: office structure. UM, so if you want to check that out,
Speaker 1: but you should know that Chris Wesling, who is a
Speaker 1: minority owner at four percent, is the chief draft consultant,
Speaker 1: day to day consigliari to the majority owner. I like
Speaker 1: being a consiglia It's a good role for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're my lieutenant, my dog in my lifeblood needs you, baby.
Speaker 1: Mark and I both took the Chiefs in that game.
Speaker 1: Moving on the Minnesota Vikings, Yes, they took care business
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs. Not a not a great performance by
Speaker 1: any stretch, and Adrian Peterson was not able to get
Speaker 1: going in that game. Now they go to Detroit to
Speaker 1: face the Lions, who finally gotta win, just barely, another
Speaker 1: grim game against the Bears, an overtime win in which
Speaker 1: at the time there were times where it didn't look
Speaker 1: like anybody was gonna win, but ultimately it was the
Speaker 1: Lions getting their first win of the season. Greg, Can
Speaker 1: you make a case why the Lions will again be
Speaker 1: frisky and get maybe win number two? Oh? Yeah, because
Speaker 1: I think the Lions remind me a lot of the
Speaker 1: Saints and that they're one in five, but there's not
Speaker 1: really that much of a difference between them and some
Speaker 1: teams that are three and three or even four and
Speaker 1: two or in the Vikings case three and two. To me,
Speaker 1: these two teams have not been that different, uh, for
Speaker 1: the most part this year. I would give the edge
Speaker 1: in this game to the Vikings defense. Overall, it's probably
Speaker 1: the one group out of the four you know groups
Speaker 1: in this game that's been consistently good. It's a good
Speaker 1: defensive line, it's good overall, and that's why I'd give
Speaker 1: the Vikings a slight edge. The Vikings have to be
Speaker 1: just absolutely thrilled with what their draft class showed. With
Speaker 1: the exception of Trey Waynes that you had, they had
Speaker 1: to watch Marcus Peters, who they bypassed for Trey Waynes.
Speaker 1: But Stefon Diggs is legitimate that guy. He's quick, he
Speaker 1: has great instincts, He's already a very good route runner
Speaker 1: as a rookie, and he's gonna keep starting for them.
Speaker 1: He's that good. Uh. Mike Wallace compared him to Antonio Brown,
Speaker 1: which is very high praise. And then Eric Kendricks, set
Speaker 1: and round linebacker, leads a team in tackles, had a sack.
Speaker 1: Danielle Hunter, the third round defensive end, is playing well.
Speaker 1: T J. Clemmings at right tackle held his own. Their
Speaker 1: rookies looked really good in that game. That that Lions
Speaker 1: Bears game we were talking about downstairs, to me was
Speaker 1: the ultimate Matthew Stafford J. Cutler game. I mean remember
Speaker 1: a couple of three or four years ago when Cutler
Speaker 1: got traded there or was playing pretty well, and people
Speaker 1: were like, Oh, the NFC North, that's quarterback division, that's
Speaker 1: the division with all the quarterbacks for the next five years.
Speaker 1: Watch out. But here we are five years later, and
Speaker 1: to me, that was the defining Stafford Cutler game because
Speaker 1: there was a lot of fantasy points. They're both better
Speaker 1: in fantasy than reality. It was a lot of points.
Speaker 1: It was just kind of like, let's just throw the
Speaker 1: ball up and let our big receivers make plays. Oh,
Speaker 1: and it's for two lousy teams in a game that
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter that it would have been fitting if
Speaker 1: it ended with no one winning. That was the best.
Speaker 1: That was the best line from your QB index this week,
Speaker 1: which is what two strong arm quarterbacks racking up fantasy
Speaker 1: points signifying nothing. Yeah, well done than ww dot and
Speaker 1: it QB ranks. It was. It was a better line
Speaker 1: than you talking about Matt Ryan's brain farts. Oh you
Speaker 1: gave agree for that. Usually give me usually, you know,
Speaker 1: point out the good vocabulary. You didn't like brain farts.
Speaker 1: I think farts is beneath you for a column brain cramps? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fair. Arabiscuit would have been good. That makes no sense.
Speaker 1: I had that would be a great editor. He'd be
Speaker 1: a good editor. In fact, you are now the editor West.
Speaker 1: When I run this outfit, everybody's gonna be in trouble,
Speaker 1: not bad. Uh. Let's see who how did we pick this? Uh?
Speaker 1: The old Zeuser and Connor or the Renegade both went
Speaker 1: with the Lions, so that will be probably a close game.
Speaker 1: Look forward to that. All Right, we've waited long enough, guys,
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's get on the phone Miss Sydney. Um.
Speaker 1: Our friends are correspondence overseas. Mark Sessler from the l
Speaker 1: A desk, Connor Or from the New Jersey Haunted mansion
Speaker 1: in London for the Bills Jaguars games. Are you there man? Hello?
Speaker 1: Uh is a dream fulfilled We've talked about onto London
Speaker 1: for years on this show and you guys are there. Wow?
Speaker 1: Tell us how it is so far? Um? I would
Speaker 1: say that, uh, there are many victories, there are many
Speaker 1: positive things, but also some wild disappointments. Wow, right off
Speaker 1: the bat, disappointments gets in. Tell well, I want to
Speaker 1: know what are the disappointments. And let me preface this
Speaker 1: by saying, it's a beautiful, wonderful place. But um, I
Speaker 1: don't understand why the sink faucets opened the wrong way.
Speaker 1: I don't understand the the the importance of and the
Speaker 1: reliance on plain bread instead of rolls. It kind of
Speaker 1: boggles my mind. I like, very specific complaints and and
Speaker 1: and then just kind of you know, you know the
Speaker 1: one I will say it that's even very patient with
Speaker 1: our bad British accents. And I do like that you're
Speaker 1: using a oh no, see you might have set the
Speaker 1: wrong guys. Wait, you're using a bad British accent in
Speaker 1: Great Britain. Well, you know what it was like we uh,
Speaker 1: the first day that we were here, there was like
Speaker 1: this enterprising reporter doing like this sub sidebar on on
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, and it became like this thing where it
Speaker 1: was like Tyrold, what was it like to escape the
Speaker 1: tyrty of Joe Flacco in Baltimore? And like, you know,
Speaker 1: it became this like rolling thing. And then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, like we were doing it in front of
Speaker 1: like Sky Sports reporters, and then we felt I felt
Speaker 1: really bad about it, but they thought it was funny.
Speaker 1: And mark your thoughts and now as you've you've let
Speaker 1: us know time and time again you did spend some
Speaker 1: time in mother England as a youth. Your thoughts on
Speaker 1: your return. I mean my sense is it's simple, this
Speaker 1: is my home and I you know, Connor and I
Speaker 1: we've been shopping for apartments because there is a high
Speaker 1: percentage chance that we don't return to the States. I
Speaker 1: understand that Connor is cynical about some niche elements about
Speaker 1: this country, but overall, I have to give London an
Speaker 1: a plus across the board. It's been I am also dealing.
Speaker 1: I was asking questions of Rex Ryan and Greg Roman
Speaker 1: today with a massive case of jet leg I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm sub human at the moment, but it's been absolutely fantastic.
Speaker 1: I've had a great time. I just got word from
Speaker 1: Shadowy League figures already sent me a bulletin. Mark, you're
Speaker 1: allowed to go to London again. Connor, You're never coming back,
Speaker 1: never going back. I'm not shocking at all. What is
Speaker 1: the all right, So let's get into the game a
Speaker 1: little bit. Guys, Um, what is the vibe in terms
Speaker 1: of the preparation. Uh, We're not gonna have Tyrod Taylor
Speaker 1: playing obviously, Uh e j Manuel gets another start? Are
Speaker 1: you guys? You're both covering one team each right? Is
Speaker 1: that how this is working? Well? I mean we are,
Speaker 1: but the Jaguars. What's very strange about any London trip
Speaker 1: is that you can, you know, teams can decide when
Speaker 1: to land and connor who's covering the Jaguars. They've not
Speaker 1: even not even here yet, so we were we really
Speaker 1: only covered the Bills And I can't think of a
Speaker 1: team in the a f CT it's more depleted by
Speaker 1: injuries right now. It's like they don't have Sammy Watkins.
Speaker 1: We found out today the Tyrod Taylor won't play. That
Speaker 1: you know, you've got a team that's completely banged up.
Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars are gonna act the box against
Speaker 1: the Shawn McCoy the entire time. And we've talked to
Speaker 1: Roman today and he basically said that he wants to
Speaker 1: run the kind of multiple offense that he had in
Speaker 1: San Francisco, but he can't even get the same players
Speaker 1: on the practice field for one week next, so it
Speaker 1: almost feels a game that tilts in favor of Jacksonville
Speaker 1: at this point. I slept in a little bit this
Speaker 1: morning and woke up to news to Percy Harvin is
Speaker 1: a wall and thinking about retiring. Is that true? Yeah? Um, so,
Speaker 1: you know, like it was a report that Ian and
Speaker 1: I worked on together. Basically, you know, he's he's thinking
Speaker 1: about retiring. I mean, he's thinking very hard about it.
Speaker 1: He's had this lingering, he had the labor and Tarren
Speaker 1: Seattle and it was hard for him to get over.
Speaker 1: He feels like it's still a painful thing and he
Speaker 1: can't get to top speed. And so at this point,
Speaker 1: you know, football has kind of become secondary and it's
Speaker 1: it's a really frustrating issue for him. So he's he's
Speaker 1: thinking about his life options. Wow. I mean when yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think that for for the Bills is that
Speaker 1: you know Madden, you know, does that drive you insane? Sure,
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you have to
Speaker 1: think about your long term viability. I guess, well, it's
Speaker 1: not shocking everywhere person it is shocking is considering retirement.
Speaker 1: But everywhere Percy Harvin goes, uh, their drama is to follow.
Speaker 1: The Jets really maybe had the best Percy Harvin era
Speaker 1: of any team so far because it was so short
Speaker 1: and nothing could happen. And Connor, as I'm speaking, I
Speaker 1: actually just got another bulletin from Shadowy League figures. You're
Speaker 1: doing intrepid reporting on Percy Harvin and sources in London
Speaker 1: about possibly retiring. You can absolutely go back. It changed
Speaker 1: but super reassuring from the Shadowy League figure. Tell them
Speaker 1: all thank you so much. A couple more things. You know,
Speaker 1: you guys are obviously or Mark, I know, you know,
Speaker 1: impressed by the British accents over there, particularly you know,
Speaker 1: maybe by the women folk. Is anyone impressed with your
Speaker 1: British your American accent? I should say, well, I mean
Speaker 1: we've essentially been dealing with tasty sports reporters up to now,
Speaker 1: so I you know, I don't have a huge takeaway
Speaker 1: on that front. But we've come fresh from a trivia
Speaker 1: contest at a fantastic British bar where I would just
Speaker 1: say I could stay here for a thousand years. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just fant I would I want to move my
Speaker 1: family over here. Never returned to America. Nice cats there,
Speaker 1: Nice cats there by bringing the family up way and
Speaker 1: I was definitely done Mark, what's the trivia questions? That
Speaker 1: is it all about? Like Fawlty Towers and the Office
Speaker 1: UK version. So what we rerecluded in, what we were
Speaker 1: included into by some of the pub regulars was that
Speaker 1: every night has a every trivia night has a theme,
Speaker 1: and so the questions kind of weaveing in terms of
Speaker 1: like categories science and history and geography. But tonight's theme
Speaker 1: was very British, very appropriated. Was everything was based around
Speaker 1: the rock band Queen sot Like everything had like related
Speaker 1: back to like the answers would be like Freddie, something
Speaker 1: for Freddie or like something related to the title of
Speaker 1: a Queen album or something. So there's uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we've just been we were totally immersing ourselve in
Speaker 1: the culture, is what I'm trying to say. I want
Speaker 1: this all the show up in the articles just to
Speaker 1: feel the vibes that are there, because you sound like
Speaker 1: you're really becoming experts, isn't. Brian May, an astro physicist.
Speaker 1: May one thing I have to say about the Bill.
Speaker 1: The Bills are practicing about an hour outside of London
Speaker 1: in a tucked away woodland It's basically just a clearing
Speaker 1: in the middle of a forest. That's like a Sessler
Speaker 1: fever dream. It is it is. Connor was there a
Speaker 1: day before I was, and he briefed me on this.
Speaker 1: But you need to see it with your own eyes
Speaker 1: to see Richie incognito dancing around like a forest clearing
Speaker 1: with a bunch of other like four pound gentlemen. I mean,
Speaker 1: it is one of the most dar things I've ever
Speaker 1: witnessed on any NFL landscape. The money was worth it
Speaker 1: just for that last sentence, Mark sending you over there.
Speaker 1: I think it's cool that two of our loyal listeners
Speaker 1: from Great Britain, a Cabby and a police officer have
Speaker 1: offered their services to Connor and Wow, I figured they
Speaker 1: might need the police officer about that. How about that?
Speaker 1: Has anyone recognized you? Number one and number two? This
Speaker 1: is to the audience listening. If anyone over in London
Speaker 1: happens to see Connor Mark, get a selfie with them
Speaker 1: and send it to at around the NFL, we will
Speaker 1: retweet it. So the first when I when I went
Speaker 1: to the first Bill's practice, Um there was a young
Speaker 1: freelance journalist Um from the Independent newspaper and he came
Speaker 1: up to me and he said, are you Connor from
Speaker 1: the NFL? And I said yeah. And the first thing
Speaker 1: he said to me was, I'm really sorry about what
Speaker 1: happened to Griff Whalen. That's awesome. It's like it was
Speaker 1: like this amazing moment. But you know, uh add on
Speaker 1: to that, I mean, uh, let's pay attention to the
Speaker 1: twitter feeds. We're going to announce where we're gonna do
Speaker 1: our meet up on Saturday after FanFest, So if anyone's listening,
Speaker 1: we're gonna If you want to party with and I
Speaker 1: all night long, this is your chance. I'm so jealous.
Speaker 1: I've never felt that we've arrived more than someone caring
Speaker 1: about Matten and Connor's fake Madden team internationally and we've
Speaker 1: made international news. That is That is it for now
Speaker 1: from our London correspondence. We will check back in with
Speaker 1: them on Sunday and see how things play, uh play
Speaker 1: out with your big game Jaguars against the Buffalo Bills. Gentlemen,
Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining us, and have fun tonight. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you. It's a sneaky, terrible game, but we're having
Speaker 1: a fantastic and you know, we missed, but we might
Speaker 1: we might have to edit all that out mark because
Speaker 1: we're gonna watch the whole world's gonna watch on yahoo
Speaker 1: dot com whatever slash stream. All right, thanks you guys.
Speaker 1: Well I think that Jeez, what time is it over
Speaker 1: there by the way right now? It's we are as
Speaker 1: we're taping this. It's past eleven in London. Okay. You
Speaker 1: know they seem to be in a good mood. Well said,
Speaker 1: are you holding that against them? That's something that well, no,
Speaker 1: thanks West, Like no one understood that you were trying
Speaker 1: to like, I wasn't happy for them, So I'm very
Speaker 1: happy for them. I'm just saying they just seem in
Speaker 1: a pretty good mood, that's all, all right. Uh And
Speaker 1: in that game, uh probably should have mentioned it, but
Speaker 1: Connor or excuse me, we all took the Bills except
Speaker 1: for Chris Wesling, who took the Jags in that game.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's the Bills are just too beat up
Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, they're starting j Manuel, Well, it surprised
Speaker 1: you guys are going with that. All right, this is
Speaker 1: such a special occasion, uh, you know, the first ever
Speaker 1: live stream game that six thirty Pacific nine thirty Eastern.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go ahead and pick it. The Jaggers are
Speaker 1: gonna win this game. Come on against E J. Manuel
Speaker 1: and this banged up there. They're overdud Stadium, and anyone
Speaker 1: he just picking where's the bag? Where's the potato? Sack?
Speaker 1: I went along with it only because he's agreen with me. Well,
Speaker 1: and because if that, yeah, if the host isn't gonna
Speaker 1: promote this game and keep us going, I gotta do
Speaker 1: it myself. You're doing a good job, a right good
Speaker 1: to hear from the boys. Uh, But we must move
Speaker 1: on as a group here in Culver City, and let's
Speaker 1: check in now on the Houston Texans and the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: And the Dolphins under the hulking interim head coach Dan
Speaker 1: Campbell look pretty damn good against the UH Titans last week,
Speaker 1: a dominant victory. And the Texans. You know, the Texans
Speaker 1: are the Texans. They're two and four lingering. But Greg,
Speaker 1: you believe, you believe it in your heart that the
Speaker 1: Texans are gonna make a run here. Well, I'm not. No,
Speaker 1: I don't believe they're gonna make a run, but I
Speaker 1: do believe they're gonna be in first place at the
Speaker 1: end of this week, we have to make a bold
Speaker 1: prediction on the website and for NFL now, and uh
Speaker 1: I thought that the Texans, at least for now, could
Speaker 1: go tell us to fork ourselves. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We stuck the fork in them after a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: and it would not surprise me at all to see
Speaker 1: them win this game. I just don't buy the whole
Speaker 1: Dolphins resurgence. I think the Colts are a very mediocre
Speaker 1: team and they could both be three and four in
Speaker 1: the head in the NFC A f C South, I
Speaker 1: couldn't agree more with There's been a lot of and West,
Speaker 1: you're big on the Dolphins. I couldn't disagree more with Greg.
Speaker 1: I'd be shocked if the Dolphins losing. Why do we
Speaker 1: think all of a sudden, all the bad stuff we
Speaker 1: were saying about the Dolphins, that it wasn't all Joe
Speaker 1: filmanhow was a poorly constructed roster? Do we really think
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, the tight ends coach, he beats
Speaker 1: a crappy Tennessee team and now you know where the
Speaker 1: quarterback gets hurt in the game, and now all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, the Dolphins are have a good roster that
Speaker 1: just needed a coach to figure it out. I don't
Speaker 1: buy it. I said it was poorly constructed because if
Speaker 1: their stars are not healthy and playing well, they can't win.
Speaker 1: But they are healthy and playing well. Cameron camera Wake
Speaker 1: dominated that game. Seeing Jeremiah Potassi try to block Cameron
Speaker 1: Wakes speed rush, I mean that was futile. And then
Speaker 1: Sue played well. Brent Grimes is back, Rashad Jones is
Speaker 1: playing Pro Bowl caliber at safety and and was really
Speaker 1: the only player who looked like he wasn't going through
Speaker 1: the motions in September. I noticed he didn't mention anything
Speaker 1: about their passing game because they still have a quarterback
Speaker 1: who in theory is one of their stars, and you're
Speaker 1: you're buying that. Tannehill, I thought he had one of
Speaker 1: the if you take away his throws to Jordan Cameron
Speaker 1: where I would I'm wondering if the coaching staff blames
Speaker 1: Cameron for both of the interceptions. I thought it was
Speaker 1: one of the best games of Tannehill's career. He even
Speaker 1: hit some deep passes. They had their most rushing yds
Speaker 1: of the season by what three minutes into the second quarter.
Speaker 1: That jumped out to me more than anything, that Lamar Miller,
Speaker 1: who was so good last season and for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't a doghouse, but was really de emphasized
Speaker 1: in that offense. Uh under fieldman. As soon as they
Speaker 1: gave Lamar Miller the ball, he that changed everything for them.
Speaker 1: But is that gonna happen on a week to week basis.
Speaker 1: I did't need to see more to see that the
Speaker 1: Dolphins aren't still a mess because I could just is
Speaker 1: easily see them blow this game. They don't play great
Speaker 1: at home, I could. I could see that. I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody's gonna want to play the Dolphins the rest
Speaker 1: of the year. People are gonna picture them as a
Speaker 1: bad team, but they're gonna best Well, they won't if
Speaker 1: they win this game. I mean, this is the get
Speaker 1: out of jail free card game. They the winner here
Speaker 1: is right in the mix. I mean, the Dolphins will
Speaker 1: be three and three, forget their slow start. They'll be
Speaker 1: in fine shape. They could be ahead of the Bills
Speaker 1: at that point. I mean three and three, it's you
Speaker 1: basically haven't even started this season. So for everything I'm
Speaker 1: saying about not really buying them, it doesn't. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter what I'm thinking, they'll be back. They're right back
Speaker 1: about where they expected to be. These are the two
Speaker 1: teams that we forked that are most likely to come
Speaker 1: back in Haunta. M hmm. That's an interesting point. That's
Speaker 1: I don't really buy the Texans. I don't buy ai
Speaker 1: of these teams. These are both at best eight win
Speaker 1: teams at best. I don't say, I'm really surprised West
Speaker 1: that you've turned uh toward the Dolphins here based on
Speaker 1: that one game. But we need to see more than that.
Speaker 1: More than that, we might even year right exactly. You
Speaker 1: thought they were a good coming into the air, so
Speaker 1: now you get a little bit of hope. And I
Speaker 1: saw what they did to the Titans. It was a
Speaker 1: very complete performance. I was impressed by them, and I
Speaker 1: I think coaching can make it. If they were a
Speaker 1: team that truly quit on Philpin and they looked like it,
Speaker 1: I think that could turn them around. You give them.
Speaker 1: It's not it didn't take a brain surgeon to make
Speaker 1: the right move. But they did make the right move,
Speaker 1: cutting film and loose when they did because they had
Speaker 1: to buy and then they had too easy, easily winnable
Speaker 1: games back to back that really could get the team
Speaker 1: back in a good positive mindset. So they take care
Speaker 1: of business here, maybe they'll get they'll get that confidence
Speaker 1: going again. They will be a team in the mix.
Speaker 1: This isn't Tony Sperano taking over a bad Raiders team
Speaker 1: with with no talent on it. This is actually a
Speaker 1: pretty talented roster at the top of him. I guess
Speaker 1: I was questioning what kind of tactician they're getting in
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell with virtually no experience, but they feel like
Speaker 1: that's going to come back to get him a little bit. Well,
Speaker 1: they have two coordinators that that are really running those
Speaker 1: sides of the ball. So Campbell's job in theory is
Speaker 1: to you know, kind of organize and rally the troops
Speaker 1: and change a couple of things. I don't think he
Speaker 1: has anything to do with the play calling on either
Speaker 1: side other than he's probably telling uh Mark's boy Bill Lazer, hey,
Speaker 1: run the football all the time, like that's that seems
Speaker 1: to be to do. Yeah, that's probably what he's doing.
Speaker 1: We have all taken the Dolphins to take care of
Speaker 1: business uh in Miami. Moving on, it is the the
Speaker 1: game with where the AFC East hanging in the balance.
Speaker 1: The New York Jets and the New England Patriots, the
Speaker 1: four and one Jets the five and oh Pats, a
Speaker 1: game that really doesn't need too much more hype, but
Speaker 1: it did get some. Greg Rosenthal early Thursday when the
Speaker 1: plucky millennials manning the Patriots Twitter feed posted eight hashtag
Speaker 1: TBT throwback Tuesday, uh image of the butt fumble, which was,
Speaker 1: you know, for the Patriot way, that seemed to be
Speaker 1: a little out of bounds and once it caught fire
Speaker 1: better a little bit, we were fine with it. But
Speaker 1: it's just like total as ch you're only hypocritical of
Speaker 1: that organization to to play in that sense. And what happens,
Speaker 1: they don't even stand by it. Once the people start
Speaker 1: talking about it, they pull down the image. But you know,
Speaker 1: this is this is the confidence, the overconfidence coming out
Speaker 1: of Foxborough. Who cares? Who cares about social media manager
Speaker 1: sending out a jokey tweet. I mean, it's not that
Speaker 1: great of a tweet, but to act like anyone is
Speaker 1: mocked outrage by the way, I forgot the message with
Speaker 1: the image. This seems relevant. Oh that's oh hey, breaking news.
Speaker 1: Social media manager has a poor sense of Humor or
Speaker 1: two Core and marphill Cabinet. You know what the real
Speaker 1: problem is all these social media goods are actually fans
Speaker 1: of the teams that they work for, so that colors
Speaker 1: their actions. This is but I will say this, and
Speaker 1: I have been getting obviously as a vocal Jets fan,
Speaker 1: I've been getting a lot of tweets from Patriots fans.
Speaker 1: It really is. It's getting just tasteful. Greg. This this
Speaker 1: any time you you questioned the Patriots or pump up
Speaker 1: the Jets a little bit, it's like, we can't wait
Speaker 1: to drop a fifty burger on you. We're gonna hang
Speaker 1: fifty points on you this week. It's like it's basically
Speaker 1: that you guys are your fan base is essentially the
Speaker 1: bullies on the block that anytime they feel like their
Speaker 1: challenge like, oh, we'll sock you good, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: we're gonna score fifty on you. Man. Well, if if anything,
Speaker 1: you know, from what I can tell this week, Jets
Speaker 1: fans are really confident. A lot of people that aren't
Speaker 1: even Jets fans think that the Jets have a very
Speaker 1: guy I don't like that to win this game. Sheldon Richardson,
Speaker 1: you know, looks good again. The whole front four. You
Speaker 1: can get pressure upfront without having to send people, and
Speaker 1: they will send people too. They've got cornerbacks that can
Speaker 1: uh certainly slow down Edelman and Amndola one on one,
Speaker 1: which is a great thing to have. It all sets
Speaker 1: up very well for the Jets, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of confidence. I think people are taking this game a
Speaker 1: lot more seriously, uh nationally and an't even in New England.
Speaker 1: Then you're giving credit for if you look at the matchup,
Speaker 1: the Jets defense, which is number one in several categories
Speaker 1: right now, really does match up well against the Pats
Speaker 1: because they do have that pass. As we've seen through
Speaker 1: the years, what's the way to get to Tom Brady?
Speaker 1: You you're get in his face on The Jets are
Speaker 1: on a big sack team, but they do put pressure
Speaker 1: on quarterbacks so they can win that battle up front.
Speaker 1: They have the cornerbacks and one major flaw for the
Speaker 1: team last year was an ability to cover the tight end. Now,
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna really cover Gronk, but the way this defense
Speaker 1: is set up, I have more confidence that they could
Speaker 1: perhaps keep Gronk from taking the game over. I think
Speaker 1: the Jets are gonna play. This is gonna be a
Speaker 1: tight game. I'm not saying they're gonna win it necessarily.
Speaker 1: I'm not overly confident that that happens. But people that
Speaker 1: think there's gonna be forty six to ten or way
Speaker 1: off base. Who knows Ryan Fitzpatrick's playing. And the Patriots
Speaker 1: win a lot of games like the Jets have one
Speaker 1: this year on turnover differential, which is impossible to predict
Speaker 1: every time, or not every time, but a lot of
Speaker 1: times in these Jets, in these Patriots games, when whenever
Speaker 1: there's sort of a national feel that I think this
Speaker 1: is a week actually you're gonna come off, that's usually
Speaker 1: when the Patriots do that's to win pretty comfortably. It's
Speaker 1: definitely true West I felt better about the jets chances
Speaker 1: before they started channeling Rex Ryan and running their mouths again.
Speaker 1: Caldon richardson guaranteeing a victory. Marcus gil Chris says, you
Speaker 1: prepare for Tom Brady the same way you prepare for
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. Well, no, see, we're becoming the monster that
Speaker 1: we hate there by not reading what Guilchrist actually pretty
Speaker 1: read the context that actually it makes it worse. And
Speaker 1: if you read the story. What he's trying to say
Speaker 1: is the only way we prepare is we don't give
Speaker 1: things special meetings or titles. We go into every game
Speaker 1: with the same mindset about how we prepare for opponents,
Speaker 1: whether it is Tom Brady or Kirk Cousins. But if
Speaker 1: you want to mix it up that way, and I
Speaker 1: read the content, it sound a lot worse. Once you
Speaker 1: read that, stays and write your story and get your clicks.
Speaker 1: West not and Sheldon Richardson. You know, let's face it,
Speaker 1: I love him as a player, but a little bit
Speaker 1: of a dufus so that doesn't surprise me. Well, I
Speaker 1: think one of you know the side of the ball
Speaker 1: that's getting ignored in this game as Jets offense versus
Speaker 1: Patriots defense. And West you know, you've been writing on
Speaker 1: Twitter and all sorts of places how impressed you are
Speaker 1: with the Patriots defense, which is playing way better than
Speaker 1: a lot of people expected this year, including myself. Jamie
Speaker 1: Collins making really another leap after he made the leap
Speaker 1: last year. Channel the Ball shared, Uh, living up to
Speaker 1: what we said in this room, which was gonna be
Speaker 1: a really good free agent addition, and he's absolutely been that.
Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler playing better than anyone could expect, especially after
Speaker 1: a bad week one. I mean since then, he's been
Speaker 1: basically lights out. Bill Belichick. Uh, this is what started
Speaker 1: me on on the watching this defense. Bill Belichick said
Speaker 1: this week that no matter who we had, and he
Speaker 1: was referring to Darrell Reeves and Brandon Browner, Malcolm Butler
Speaker 1: would still have a big role on this team because
Speaker 1: he's covering number one receivers and doing a pretty good
Speaker 1: job of it. I really liked this defense. We think
Speaker 1: of the Patriots as Belichick and Brady, but they we
Speaker 1: forget that they were the youngest team ever to win
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, and that is, you know, the Brady
Speaker 1: and Belichick. There's a lot of credit obviously for what
Speaker 1: he's done. And that's just another example we're seeing this
Speaker 1: year because what was the conversation going into the season,
Speaker 1: like their corner of their entire secondary was decimated. That
Speaker 1: was gonna be the weak point. But they just figure
Speaker 1: it out and if they can keep about if they
Speaker 1: can keep Dominic Easily healthy, I think he could be
Speaker 1: the key to them becoming an even better like Dominic Easily.
Speaker 1: When you watch him play, he's as quick as any
Speaker 1: three technique. I mean there they haven't gotten much out
Speaker 1: of easily. And now they're you know, the back to
Speaker 1: back first round picks defensive tackle Malcolm Brown, who hasn't
Speaker 1: really done a lot this year, but you're right, and
Speaker 1: then they're so athletic up front once, Yeah, they do
Speaker 1: have an athletic team. Once Dion Lewis drops one of
Speaker 1: those Allen Iverson killer crossovers and some of the Jets defenders.
Speaker 1: That's my Dan Lewis comparison. You compare Rogers to Jordan's,
Speaker 1: Dion Lewis to Allen Iverson. He looked affected by that
Speaker 1: ab injury last week. Let's see if he's himself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm looking. I'm looking at the small angles. I'm studying
Speaker 1: this one very close. Your boy Leonard Williams moving on
Speaker 1: up the Rookie of the Year watch he might be
Speaker 1: number two this week. Wow, Big Mack had a nice offseason.
Speaker 1: Huh he did? I think that Brandon Marshall trade was
Speaker 1: so underrated and they got married Marshall and who do
Speaker 1: they essentially choose Marshall over Percy Harvin? Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: a great decision. Um anyway, so I have to pick
Speaker 1: the Jets so I do seen that's gonna be the
Speaker 1: final score. Patra who continues to lead the Picks and
Speaker 1: is doing a great job. Uh, he's sixty four and
Speaker 1: twenty seven this year at Steve Patras running away from it.
Speaker 1: He's up six games. Yeah, he's got six games on you. Um,
Speaker 1: he picked the Jets as well, So let's see what
Speaker 1: happens Kevin Foxboro. Moving on, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are
Speaker 1: two and three with their rookie quarterback Jameis Winston. Now,
Speaker 1: they traveled to Washington, d C. Or just outside to
Speaker 1: face the Redskins, who were two and four, and we
Speaker 1: you know, this was a hot talking point on the
Speaker 1: previous podcast about the Redskins West sticking up for the Redskins,
Speaker 1: so we didn't stick a fork in them. So I
Speaker 1: would assume West that this is a game that the
Speaker 1: frisky Redskins, in your mind at least, are going to
Speaker 1: take care of business. Get to three and four and
Speaker 1: stay in the thick of it in the mediocre NFC East. Sure,
Speaker 1: all you have to do is beat a bad Bucks
Speaker 1: team better. I have no faith in the Bucks ever winning.
Speaker 1: What if the Bucks win, can we fork the Redskins?
Speaker 1: I love holding you to that. Yeah, it works really
Speaker 1: if the Bucks, if the Bucks beat the Redskins for
Speaker 1: the Redskins by week yeah, oh no, I know. But
Speaker 1: just from what I've heard from this side of the
Speaker 1: room this year, I'm surprised that you know, you would
Speaker 1: even consider forking a team, you know, coached by new
Speaker 1: Rockney and quarterbacks by Joe Montana. You've got Dion Sanders,
Speaker 1: you know, in this prime in the secondary. I mean,
Speaker 1: this Redskins team is just really head scratching that you
Speaker 1: don't like Kirk. I know, it's really head scratching. And
Speaker 1: you don't like Kirk Cousins more considering you're the patron
Speaker 1: saint of bad quarterbacking. You love bad quarterbacks like nobody.
Speaker 1: You know what I like. I like bad quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: make exciting place and Cousins is the opposite. He does.
Speaker 1: He's a low ceiling quarterback that doesn't even get to
Speaker 1: that low ceiling usually. I thought in Week one he
Speaker 1: did go down field, but then you take away to
Speaker 1: Sean Jackson, you take away Jordan Reed, and what are
Speaker 1: you who are you left with? I saw that he's
Speaker 1: only thrown nineteen or twenty one throws all year over
Speaker 1: twenty yards and he's completed three of those. And he's
Speaker 1: playing last week without his starting center, without his left tackle.
Speaker 1: I think once they get healthy, he'll start going down.
Speaker 1: That is totally fair. I do think their defense is overachieved.
Speaker 1: I think the running game is intriguing, even if it
Speaker 1: doesn't have the results. Might be making the leap. And
Speaker 1: they've had a lot of injuries, so they do have excuses,
Speaker 1: but they're not They're not a good team. Still. I'm
Speaker 1: starting to think that maybe it was a jinx West.
Speaker 1: It did stick in my mind when I was looking
Speaker 1: at Matt Jones being inactive before that Giants game in
Speaker 1: Week three, you said that would be his coming out,
Speaker 1: coming out moment as rookie of the year. I mean,
Speaker 1: is he playing this week? And you know, what do
Speaker 1: they need to do to get the running game going
Speaker 1: because it did not look impressive. But they need their
Speaker 1: offensive line to be healthy first of all. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Matt Jones didn't even play last week. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if he's playing this week. But Alfred Morris
Speaker 1: is also not making anyone miss. He looked great in
Speaker 1: the first week. We talked about how if you pay
Speaker 1: too much attention to week one, Alfred Morris has not
Speaker 1: looked good. Um, Jamis Winston, we haven't really talked about
Speaker 1: him much. Through five starts. He is uh completing fifty
Speaker 1: six and a half percent of his passes eleven yards,
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns, seven picks, pass rating of seventies seven points
Speaker 1: seven No. Six. I would have been awesome if that
Speaker 1: was the seven too good yards per tempt seven points,
Speaker 1: seven yards per tempt. It's been sacked eleven times. What
Speaker 1: of our what our early returns on Jamis Winston? You
Speaker 1: think it's a lot? There? Are we worried? I've rarely
Speaker 1: had so little opinion on a high level quarterback after
Speaker 1: watching four games. It's such a cop out, But I
Speaker 1: just feel like I don't have a good feel from
Speaker 1: him yet. I mean, he's shown you why he's a
Speaker 1: first round quarterback multip times. I mean he's he's shown
Speaker 1: enough to for you to know. Okay, I think he's
Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback. But then he's had a couple of
Speaker 1: just games where he was a total collapse. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: hard to get a read on him because two of
Speaker 1: his games were unmitigated disasters like disaster two games. Two
Speaker 1: games were pretty good and one game was all right
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna get a disasters from the first snap
Speaker 1: to the point where it seemed mental like things just
Speaker 1: went bad on the first snap and then he he
Speaker 1: kind of crumbled, which isn't a great sign um, but
Speaker 1: he's shown otherwise. I think he's looked pretty good and
Speaker 1: Doug Martin looks awesome. Yeah, that was That was one
Speaker 1: of those preseason hype trains where I was suspicious of,
Speaker 1: but that has proven to be. He's he's a lot
Speaker 1: better than his and his numbers are fine, but he's
Speaker 1: a lot better than his numbers show. We took the
Speaker 1: Redskins across the board to move to three and four.
Speaker 1: Moving forward to the late games, the Oakland Raiders gentlemen, Um,
Speaker 1: they are two and four and now they have a
Speaker 1: big division battle against the Diego Chargers. Um. Excusely Oaklands
Speaker 1: two and three, the Chargers are two and four. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is a Philip Rivers led Chargers team. Rivers went
Speaker 1: off sent all sorts of organizational records in his last game,
Speaker 1: throwing for over five hundred yards. Uh and uh it
Speaker 1: wasn't enough to get the win, but the Chargers are
Speaker 1: frisky team. The Raiders. What are your thoughts on the
Speaker 1: Raiders right now? Greg? My thoughts are that they have
Speaker 1: a chance to be in the mix in this bad division,
Speaker 1: and these division games are gonna be huge for these
Speaker 1: three teams. The Chiefs, who I guess are just about
Speaker 1: out of it. It's really these two teams that the
Speaker 1: Chargers and the Raiders. So I think there's an opportunity
Speaker 1: the schedules doable for this division for one of these
Speaker 1: two teams to rise up, for the Chargers to make
Speaker 1: a run. We talked about how top heavy the a
Speaker 1: f C is with only five winning teams or the
Speaker 1: Raiders to make a run, and this this is such
Speaker 1: an intriguing game. I just realized, I think I'm going
Speaker 1: to assign it to myself. I know you guys wouldn't
Speaker 1: love it anyways. It's not like the Choice A one,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of that. I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a sneaky, big game. I want to see how Derek
Speaker 1: Carr's plays in this game, and I want to see
Speaker 1: if the Raider I want I want to see which
Speaker 1: one of these teams can step up. Um I hold
Speaker 1: in my hands the two thousand, fifteen weeks seven research notes. Well,
Speaker 1: we finally know that Sydney has been learning from TV.
Speaker 1: She hasn't been paying attention at all. All right, I'll
Speaker 1: set you up again. I'm sorry if we board you,
Speaker 1: I hold in my hand the two thousand fifteen season
Speaker 1: weeks seven research notes. Get rid of that thing. It's
Speaker 1: a mons dross. And that was great, by the way,
Speaker 1: because Sydney's face when she turned around it was like
Speaker 1: haming a hama hamma. By the way, Sydney, you are
Speaker 1: doing a great job. I'm sorry my face was what
Speaker 1: can we can we just hear that again? But you
Speaker 1: have done a great job since coming aboard. I just
Speaker 1: want to make that clear, both you and the audience simultaneously.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's okay. Um. Yes, from the research guy,
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen guys fifty three catches through six games. That
Speaker 1: is the most by any wide receiver in the history
Speaker 1: of the game since nineteen sixty. He might set the
Speaker 1: NFL record for catches. I think it's easy there. He might.
Speaker 1: He's on pace in an offense where it can happen. West,
Speaker 1: I'm overdue to acknowledge that you have used the research
Speaker 1: packet much more efficiently this year. And you've used it,
Speaker 1: You've used it with some context because I was you're
Speaker 1: really setting me up because I wanted to talk about
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen. Thank you. That's grade A hosting right there.
Speaker 1: Damn everybuddy tonight be making the leap Amari Cooper is
Speaker 1: not the best game Keenan Allen. Oh, I thought you've
Speaker 1: been Michael Crabtree Crabtree and Allen is playing lights out.
Speaker 1: Those catches fourteen catches and three quarters last weekend, they
Speaker 1: were ridiculous catches. He's fun to watch. He actually he
Speaker 1: reminds me of a much better version of the guy
Speaker 1: on the other side of the field of him, Stevie Johnson,
Speaker 1: and a little bit like a younger better. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's not like keen physical. He's not pulling away from you.
Speaker 1: And he's a very he can make catches in traffic
Speaker 1: like anybody. He's not eccentric. What's the word for it,
Speaker 1: He's just so I don't know what the word for
Speaker 1: it is. He's a very unique. He's a unique receiver.
Speaker 1: There's a certain is that qua Yeah, that's true too,
Speaker 1: not what I was looking for. But that also, I
Speaker 1: don't understand how Keenan Allen had one of the best.
Speaker 1: It was offensive Rookie of the Year two years ago,
Speaker 1: and then still with Philip Rivers had a great year.
Speaker 1: Was it as good? And now is unstoppable? This is
Speaker 1: he was playing injured list year. I'm going to raise
Speaker 1: my You could read between the lines of some of
Speaker 1: the articles from the Chargers writers and the coaches in
Speaker 1: the off season that Keenan Allen might not have taken
Speaker 1: his work too seriously last year. What didn't he I
Speaker 1: think the coaches essentially have said that that they thought
Speaker 1: he came off the rookie year and he was like,
Speaker 1: all right, you know, I'm pretty good, and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: he wasn't working. Remember early in his rookie year when
Speaker 1: he said he aught about retiring to pursue music, right,
Speaker 1: So that's right there. That maybe gives you a little window.
Speaker 1: So maybe he's a young immature player and you can't
Speaker 1: you just can't survive in the NFL like that unless
Speaker 1: you're an outrageously talented Well, he must have a an
Speaker 1: epiphany during the off season because he's playing lights out well.
Speaker 1: He had how many catches and three quarters last week?
Speaker 1: Fourteen and three quarters? He would have broken the franchise
Speaker 1: record if he if he, yeah, that's Brandon Marshall. I
Speaker 1: think it's through our owns right with twenty Brandon Marshall. Well, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he has a hip injury. That's why he came out
Speaker 1: of the game. Uh. The Union Tribune and San Diego
Speaker 1: reports there is quote plenty of optimism that he will
Speaker 1: play in Week seven against the Raiders, and they could
Speaker 1: use them as for the picks in that game game gentlemen,
Speaker 1: wild card or old Renegade or picks fittingly the Renegade Raiders.
Speaker 1: The rest of us took Chargers. That's that's what you
Speaker 1: call a good hero pick. You know what. That's a
Speaker 1: toss up game, don't you guys think No, you don't
Speaker 1: think so. I'll take Philip Rivers. All right, it's the
Speaker 1: Thursday preview show, and now it is a tradition like
Speaker 1: no other. Andrew Ceciliano of NFL Network joins us, the
Speaker 1: host of Around the NFL, the television show When can
Speaker 1: I watch that? We'll teasee it it. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: at the end of the segment. It depends on how
Speaker 1: Andrew does, whether we give the correct information. You know,
Speaker 1: you're Chriss, Chris is kind of like Statler or would
Speaker 1: you be Statler or Waldorf? Both both For those who
Speaker 1: don't know the Muppets, I hear their back on TV
Speaker 1: and raunchy and racier than ever, however, they're like Statler
Speaker 1: and Waldorf. That is Chris Westling. You just need a balcony.
Speaker 1: Those two are the best characters in that show. Grumpy
Speaker 1: old man, get off my lawn. They're awesome. How are you, Andrew?
Speaker 1: I'm doing well, gentlemen and yourselves. Great question is now
Speaker 1: that um Greg has replaced the group on your television show? Yes,
Speaker 1: do you find the show better now with just Greg
Speaker 1: as opposed to all of us? Um? Honest answer, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know that have we officially replaced you? Oh?
Speaker 1: I see all because of the things that you guys
Speaker 1: used to do. I doesn't even remember that we were
Speaker 1: those that are new to the show. We were once
Speaker 1: on around the NFL as a group. I don't think
Speaker 1: it's been yanked. I think it could come back. First
Speaker 1: of all, I am not preppy to those meetings. Rosenthal
Speaker 1: probably is. Second of all, Greg has been really good
Speaker 1: the last two weeks. I mean this week good today.
Speaker 1: Last week when you got to the name calling at
Speaker 1: the finger pointing with Mike Silver. I thought that was
Speaker 1: real quality television. Real tough to win a debate against
Speaker 1: people probably up Peyton Manny. I love their second album,
Speaker 1: so you had You've effectively dodged the question. Andrew a
Speaker 1: good job. Um, I missed. Would you like me to
Speaker 1: say just tell me what I want to like me
Speaker 1: to say that we miss you. We need your unique
Speaker 1: brand of jets apology on the thank you, we need that.
Speaker 1: Thank you bring it back. Well, thank you for coming
Speaker 1: back to the podcast version of the Around the NFL brand.
Speaker 1: So why don't we get into some games? And I
Speaker 1: did feel bad after Andrew left for the Dodger game, uh,
Speaker 1: that we kind of inadvertently. It wasn't on purpose, so
Speaker 1: he kind of got stuck with some crappy games. And
Speaker 1: you asked me to predict the winner, and I said,
Speaker 1: I said the man, No, I didn't. I said the
Speaker 1: Dodgers would win, right well, the Mets are in the
Speaker 1: World Series a week later. They've made quick work of
Speaker 1: the NL. But as a olive branch, we will give
Speaker 1: you a nice little game. Oh oh game, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so what do you got into? The games will start,
Speaker 1: you know, you have your Cleveland Browns ties. You've done
Speaker 1: a lot of work with the St. Louis Rams, and
Speaker 1: guess what They're playing each other on Sunday at one
Speaker 1: pm Eastern at the Edward James almost Dome. Get excited
Speaker 1: andrew your thoughts about this game. And and first let's
Speaker 1: start before we came on the air, you mentioned you
Speaker 1: know you have a brother that goes to a lot
Speaker 1: of Browns games. It travels in fact um. And this
Speaker 1: that was a sucker punch or a gut punch loss
Speaker 1: for the Browns last week the Broncos. It was not
Speaker 1: because they were supposed to win, but because they should
Speaker 1: have one. They were handed that game so many times
Speaker 1: when you fail to capitalize on the only play bar
Speaker 1: Kibious Mingo makes all year, you can't win when you
Speaker 1: get it on the what the plus thirty nine or
Speaker 1: thirty eight whatever was in overtime and go backwards and
Speaker 1: end up on your own thirty eight. But it goes
Speaker 1: deeper than that. The Carlos Dansby pick six where he
Speaker 1: tight wrope the sideline if you had to. People may
Speaker 1: laugh and say that's how little this team has won
Speaker 1: since it came back in ninety nine. But if you
Speaker 1: had to rank the top five eight moments in the
Speaker 1: history of that stadium where it shook to the foundation,
Speaker 1: that was one of those moments where he went into
Speaker 1: the dog pound that end of the stadium and that
Speaker 1: place shook. And maybe you have a man'zelle touchdown a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago against Tennessee, or maybe it was
Speaker 1: and Eric Wright pick six when the Giants were undefeated
Speaker 1: on a Monday night coming off a Super Bowl season
Speaker 1: where he went eighty yards. Lawyers Thursday night game was good.
Speaker 1: They beat the Steelers once the Hoyer Thursday night game
Speaker 1: against Buffalo where he got hurt. That one Travis Benjamin
Speaker 1: had to return the Hoyer the Bengals was on the road.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Haslim laughed in the owner's box. That was the
Speaker 1: Bills game where Hoyer and Manuel got a hurt and
Speaker 1: it was the shot of has them going like laughing
Speaker 1: like skeleton. Josh Gordon has had some moments, but that
Speaker 1: means that place was amazing. And your brother said twenty
Speaker 1: four hours later he still was still talk about And
Speaker 1: that's similar to Mark texted me later that night or
Speaker 1: even I think it was the next day he thought
Speaker 1: that was one of the toughest loss is for the
Speaker 1: Browns in a long time because of the history with
Speaker 1: the brown but they had never Okay, so it's been
Speaker 1: twenty five years since they beat the Broncos. Twenty five years.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a Monday night and some Canadian
Speaker 1: dude had like a cup of coffee called named Jerry
Speaker 1: Corric kicked the game winning field goal to win thirty
Speaker 1: twenty nine in Denver. Now that year that they were
Speaker 1: horrible that year both and the Broncos were two, but
Speaker 1: they were coming off um, you know in an eighty
Speaker 1: nine season where the Browns lost to the Broncos for
Speaker 1: the third time in four years in the a f
Speaker 1: C Championship Game. And for people of my age on
Speaker 1: forty one, I mean those teams nine where there were
Speaker 1: one step away from the Super Bowl three out of
Speaker 1: four years. You still hate the Broncos. If if you're
Speaker 1: and then this this was there and anyway, I digress.
Speaker 1: It's so it's so Browns to the dansby pick six,
Speaker 1: which you said is a great moment. All they had
Speaker 1: to do was to kick the extra point instead of
Speaker 1: going for the two point conversion, and by the way,
Speaker 1: Mike Petton, and this is not ripped Mike Petton here.
Speaker 1: I want to make that clear. The typical Monday day
Speaker 1: after for a coach, after making that kind of decision
Speaker 1: would be what the heck were you doing? Instead? Mike
Speaker 1: Petton then goes out there Monday and has to stand
Speaker 1: on a firing line where Johnny Manzel questions for fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: speaking as the voice of the organization in essence, because
Speaker 1: no one else was talking about it and it was
Speaker 1: just a weird couple of hours there and let the
Speaker 1: passion coming out of Andrew, and Andrew's brother and Mark
Speaker 1: Sessler speak to that Browns fans deserve better. You are
Speaker 1: a factory upset, not that guy. You know. They just
Speaker 1: they deserve better. You don't like that guy whatever, he's
Speaker 1: one of you, though, Mark, he's yelled at the producer
Speaker 1: they put that on. So you have a similar to
Speaker 1: hell with that guy. You've done with that guy. I'm
Speaker 1: done with that. Never was with that guy, Like out
Speaker 1: of Cleveland. I interviewed him for the pain Rankings piece
Speaker 1: I wrote, so I feel like this is a shot
Speaker 1: at me that said this is an interesting game. This
Speaker 1: this is now turned the Rams this is now the
Speaker 1: part of their schedule where they could and should make
Speaker 1: a run. So this is kind of, at least for me,
Speaker 1: this is the window here where we find out if
Speaker 1: this Rams team can a handle success. Will be first
Speaker 1: of all, find it, have success, and then then be
Speaker 1: handle it if they get there. Can they win consecutive games?
Speaker 1: Can they get a streak going? Can they beat the
Speaker 1: teams that they, at least on paper, should realistically beat
Speaker 1: and so that that that's why this game is interesting
Speaker 1: totally and they're coming off of by the Rams are
Speaker 1: We kind of laughed a little bit when Greg you
Speaker 1: predicted that they would be the runner up in the
Speaker 1: NFC West back in early September. But Todd Gurley's emergence,
Speaker 1: all bets are offered with the Rams. Now. I really
Speaker 1: think they could be a team that's that's really frisky
Speaker 1: all through the season now as long as he stays healthy.
Speaker 1: They played at the level of their competition sometimes, but
Speaker 1: you have Girly they're actually using I don't think sometimes,
Speaker 1: I think all the time, all the time, Tavon Austin. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're actually using his skills well or well enough certainly better.
Speaker 1: It makes the offense it's watchable, and this is a matchup.
Speaker 1: I know the Brown's offensive line has been very good
Speaker 1: overall past protection uh this year, but I think they
Speaker 1: should take advantage of this matchup at home. Josh McCown,
Speaker 1: I think went back to the Josh McCown we expect
Speaker 1: to see last week, and they forced him into some mistakes.
Speaker 1: I mean, he'll play well enough and then he'll get
Speaker 1: people around him in the pocket and he'll just try
Speaker 1: to make a play and he'll throw it up for grabs.
Speaker 1: I know the Browns are playing teams very tough this season,
Speaker 1: even if their record isn't great, but it would be, yeah,
Speaker 1: a huge step backwards for the Rams. They got to
Speaker 1: start stacking some wins and really build momentum, something they've
Speaker 1: really failed to do during the Jeff Fisher era. Stadler,
Speaker 1: your thoughts, I was gonna say, you know, you said
Speaker 1: the Brown's offensive line is playing well. Shack Barrett owns him,
Speaker 1: Shack Barrett, Shack Barrott. Well, that was against made a
Speaker 1: million dollars. He looked. He looked every bit as good
Speaker 1: as DeMarcus Ware, the guy he's replacing in and in
Speaker 1: and in part time work. Even before last week, he
Speaker 1: was making a lot of plays. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: Pro Football FO because had him ranked, as you know,
Speaker 1: per play, one of the top guys in the league.
Speaker 1: But he was only getting a handful of snaps every week. Uh,
Speaker 1: they have that. I mean, I still think the Browns
Speaker 1: could win this game. Overall. I think the Browns have
Speaker 1: played well, considering it's not a very good roster. I
Speaker 1: like the way they used Duke Johnson. He we should
Speaker 1: give Travis Benjamin some love. He's playing great. Look six
Speaker 1: slants to him. They're much better at the skill positions
Speaker 1: than we would have ever x. Robert Barry Bartnage having
Speaker 1: a career season. Robert Turbin a few times he carried
Speaker 1: the ball last week, got downhill better than the other
Speaker 1: two guys had done. That was that was needed. They
Speaker 1: didn't have. Uh. I don't want to call him a
Speaker 1: workhorse power back because that's not what he is. But
Speaker 1: they didn't have a guy that could square shoulder pads
Speaker 1: and actually hit the line in short yardage. They had
Speaker 1: not seen that yet until they saw that down free
Speaker 1: biggest drive of the entire season. Trying to either tie
Speaker 1: that game or win it. It's all Robert Turban that
Speaker 1: was the offense. I thought that was really it was
Speaker 1: really interesting. And considering they moved the ball well that drive,
Speaker 1: I think get a lot more chances. This game can
Speaker 1: be summed up in one sentence. Todd Gurley against the
Speaker 1: number one thirty and against the number thirty one run day.
Speaker 1: That's it. That's the easiest way to describe this to
Speaker 1: to Andrew's point, we all took the Rams except for
Speaker 1: connor Or, who is a Browns fan, so perhaps he
Speaker 1: played into it. He's the least Browns fan Browns fan ever,
Speaker 1: he's I mean no slight to him. So you and Andrew,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go. I'll go with the home team here,
Speaker 1: I'll go with the Rams. Alright. Moving on, So the
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons last Thursday around this time they were an
Speaker 1: undefeated team. That is no longer the case. They got
Speaker 1: beat by the Saints in New Orleans, and now they
Speaker 1: get the Tennessee Titans um in Nashville this game. Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: where are we at with Marcus Mariota right now? Didn't
Speaker 1: practice again today? That scares me a little bit. He
Speaker 1: connor Or covered this game for US last week and
Speaker 1: he really kind of criticized the coaches for leaving Mariota
Speaker 1: in the game, and when I watched it on film,
Speaker 1: he was so obviously limping and you have to help
Speaker 1: him help himself because he was a sitting duck in
Speaker 1: the pocket. So that would scare me if on the
Speaker 1: Titans if he plays, and it would also scare me
Speaker 1: off Zach because he's just not a good quarterback. He's
Speaker 1: pretty good. This is his chance, and it's a good
Speaker 1: matchup for him too, because the Falcons don't have much
Speaker 1: of a pass rush. We saw it against Drew Brees
Speaker 1: and like just about any NFL quarterback, Mettenburger can do
Speaker 1: well if no one is rushing him. And Atlanta, I
Speaker 1: know it's at home or it's in Tennessee actually, so
Speaker 1: that makes it even tougher. They have not been able
Speaker 1: to get any pressure with their front seven. I think
Speaker 1: it could be a good game for Mettenburger. You're starting
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks and fantasy leagues pick them up. I can't see,
Speaker 1: and I'm not ready here to anoint the Falcons, but
Speaker 1: they had a little extra time to prepare. Um they
Speaker 1: they look even if it is Mariota, what is he
Speaker 1: third in the NFL and sacks I would be surprised.
Speaker 1: I think he has the highest secrerate and I think
Speaker 1: right I do too, And I think seven of those
Speaker 1: came Week two against the Browns in one game, So
Speaker 1: those numbers are kind of skewed. But uh, I like
Speaker 1: Atlanta here. I I just like what they're doing offensively
Speaker 1: so much. That's why I had an issue with your
Speaker 1: rankings before, Greg, with the watchable rankings. I think their
Speaker 1: offense puts them higher, and I think their offense actually
Speaker 1: wins this game. DeVonta Freeman is a lot of fun
Speaker 1: to watch. I don't like that they've turned Matt Ryan,
Speaker 1: as I told you, into a dink and dunk quarterback.
Speaker 1: I don't think the passing game is really any better
Speaker 1: under Kyle she And and and the rest of the team
Speaker 1: is better. But and it's effective, you know, moving six
Speaker 1: seven yards at a time. But when what was the
Speaker 1: last game, Atlanta came out there and just uh played
Speaker 1: good time. You know, from the first quarter of the
Speaker 1: fourth there was really not there are fourth quarter teams
Speaker 1: in Houston. Was the winning game. It didn't feel like
Speaker 1: watching Thursday's game that this was some grand upset and
Speaker 1: some team that was inferior to the Falcons had a
Speaker 1: good night. I felt like they were kind of same
Speaker 1: general talent level in terms of ability, So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't been surprised to the Falcon slump a little
Speaker 1: bit and end up being closer than five hundred than
Speaker 1: we thought. I'm a weirdo. I actually joy watching Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan call a game. Oh too, Yeah, why is that weird?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought you were gonna tell me
Speaker 1: that it was weird. It's a trust tree. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of scientists here, a lot of
Speaker 1: football nerds. You don't have to worry about that stuff. Here.
Speaker 1: We all took the Falcons. And do you agree with that, Andrew?
Speaker 1: I do. I will take the Falcons, yes, because let's
Speaker 1: go back to weeks one and weeks two here with
Speaker 1: Tennessee when everyone was exceedingly giddy about Marcus Mariota and
Speaker 1: I too, I certainly think that the guy's got a
Speaker 1: bright future. But there was a reason this team was
Speaker 1: picking second overall at two and fact team, all right,
Speaker 1: they don't exactly have talent oozing out of the pores here. Now.
Speaker 1: They've had a different different leading Russia every week until
Speaker 1: last week. When Antonio Andrews and Dexter Mcluster led the
Speaker 1: team with twenty three yards. They play the wrong guys.
Speaker 1: What you think Terrence West should be in there? Yes?
Speaker 1: I do? You really do? I do? Or Bishop Sanky.
Speaker 1: Antonio Andrews is one of the slowest running backs and
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not endorsing him and it and they
Speaker 1: play Harry Douglas who hasn't made a play his entire career.
Speaker 1: I just find it interesting that they they they trade
Speaker 1: for Terence Where have him active? I think for two
Speaker 1: weeks and and he's straight Dwayne Boone it since then,
Speaker 1: David Cobb returned to practice this week, so he might
Speaker 1: not be too I forgot about him. I honestly, legitimately
Speaker 1: did I want to. He was a buzzing guy August,
Speaker 1: so he might be a lift to them, but he
Speaker 1: won't be able to help them yet. Uh, Andrew, you've
Speaker 1: done it again. What is that You've come into the
Speaker 1: studio and you've just you've dropped knowledge bombs. Oh I
Speaker 1: thought you were gonna say, like, I took you dies
Speaker 1: down a dirt like a freight train tat down a dirt.
Speaker 1: You brought some charisma to the show and some star power.
Speaker 1: As we know, I sense big time. I sent some
Speaker 1: sarcasm and I sent a little pushback from you, Dan,
Speaker 1: because you're not on the TV, you know, some some jabs. Well, no,
Speaker 1: this is how you know. Usually, yes, I would say that,
Speaker 1: but in this case, I know that you are not
Speaker 1: directly in control of the programming of the show that
Speaker 1: you hope, which again is a jab. Yeah, which, well, no,
Speaker 1: it's not that you don't have a voice. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to dig out of this. It's not that you
Speaker 1: have a you don't have a voice in the production
Speaker 1: of the program. But you know, I don't know unless
Speaker 1: you did, are you responsible? I didn't stand bad. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get to the bottom of the suite's listen, you guys, listen.
Speaker 1: And for the record, this comes one day after I
Speaker 1: heap praise on your Jets on the Twitter. Good you did,
Speaker 1: and I retweeted that the number one. That's every time
Speaker 1: you want to retweet from Dan, just praise the Jets.
Speaker 1: That's the recipe. You know what I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: like this. You know, my favorite Jets moment of all times,
Speaker 1: Mark Gastono's fourth down roughing the passer call. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: is a f C divisional round. Bogus calls you wild
Speaker 1: card drab bogus call. That was the famous Charlie Steiner call.
Speaker 1: The Jets are going to the a f C champion
Speaker 1: chip after Freeman mcnal scored off right tackle. By the way,
Speaker 1: I believe have you seen the NFL films one hour
Speaker 1: special about that game? Have we discussed this reason we have?
Speaker 1: I think it hasn't played in years, but I haven't
Speaker 1: saved in my DVR. And there's a great So they
Speaker 1: played Charlie Steiner, now voice of the Dodgers, saying and
Speaker 1: the Chets are going to the a f C Championship game.
Speaker 1: And then they show him today. He's there, He's looking
Speaker 1: at the camera and it kind of shrugs his shoulders.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, it's great. Charlie's the best. No one's perfect.
Speaker 1: So here we go around the NFL television show Monday, Tuesday,
Speaker 1: Wednesday Friday six pm Eastern, Yes, and Thursday Thursday hour
Speaker 1: different situations. First of all, it's a longer show show.
Speaker 1: It begins at two pm Eastern, Yes, a m three
Speaker 1: hours of tom foolery and hijinks. So good stuff. Andrew
Speaker 1: does an awesome job with it, and he also does
Speaker 1: the Direct TV Red Zone show on Sunday. So busy man, Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, guy earned this page, Jeck. They wanted me to. Actually,
Speaker 1: someone in St. Louis suggested I do the Red Zone
Speaker 1: from St. Louis this week for Bronze Rams. I don't
Speaker 1: think that that is not doable. I thought about it.
Speaker 1: How would you do it? If we couldn't tweak, There's
Speaker 1: no way we could do it. But hey, oh well,
Speaker 1: dare to dream the Siciliana Bowl. That's America's partying for it. Emotional, emotional.
Speaker 1: There should be a trophy and everything for it. Did
Speaker 1: you see, by the way, I don't know, not a
Speaker 1: lot of baseball fans in this room. Perhaps so I
Speaker 1: know that's what you are. When did you see when
Speaker 1: they handed over the National League Trophy to the Mets
Speaker 1: after the game yesterday? There was a lot of taken
Speaker 1: from a haunted house or something. Have you been in
Speaker 1: that clubhouse? No? Okay, that clubhouse is the size Edwardley
Speaker 1: of this room. It is. It is a closet um.
Speaker 1: It was an interesting scene there. There are so many
Speaker 1: interesting things about that. I believe the collective age on
Speaker 1: that podium was now we're getting two inside baseball. Yeah
Speaker 1: literally A right, Andrew Cecili, I know, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Please join us next week. God willing. Okay, if you're
Speaker 1: nice town, all right, let's take it to the home stretch.
Speaker 1: And now, gentlemen, with the game. I believe you might
Speaker 1: hear Joe Buck, the bearded Joe Buck and Troy Aikman
Speaker 1: just the prediction here because it's Cowboys Giants at the
Speaker 1: Meadowlands kickoff on Fox. Uh, this is a game between
Speaker 1: a three three giant team that what's just let's let's
Speaker 1: face it, just look dreadful. Um after that initial touchdown
Speaker 1: drive against the Eagles a Monday night, so I didn't
Speaker 1: give you a great vibe about where they are as
Speaker 1: a team. That was an ugly way to end a
Speaker 1: winning streak. And then he got Dallas who was on
Speaker 1: a three game losing streak. But Greg, they turned out
Speaker 1: to Matt Castle, who will take over for Brandon Weed
Speaker 1: and probably not gonna see Dez Briant, even though I
Speaker 1: feel like Cowboys are teasing it out a little bit,
Speaker 1: maybe in a he's not playing competitive advantage move, but
Speaker 1: we will get Matt Castle you think it was the
Speaker 1: right move to go with Matt Castle right now. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it couldn't hurt I'm asking the right guy. I think
Speaker 1: Brandon Weed, and they made clear through their comments, and
Speaker 1: we've heard some things behind the scenes that he didn't
Speaker 1: really for you. It's like a mother turned to pick
Speaker 1: a favorite between two sons. Well, I don't know where
Speaker 1: you got the idea that I liked Brandon Weed, and
Speaker 1: you were of him after he came in. But I
Speaker 1: was defending was the Dallas Cowboys defense. And I couldn't
Speaker 1: have been more wrong about that because they did collapse
Speaker 1: after those first couple of weeks, but now they are back.
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence is a good pass ushure. Greg Hardy is
Speaker 1: making a big difference. You have shan Lee, you have
Speaker 1: Landa McClain. I think their defense now you throw Castle
Speaker 1: in your at least can be competitive in these games
Speaker 1: and have a better chance to win. Anytime you have
Speaker 1: a chance to just pump your fist. I do. I
Speaker 1: do that all the time. That means it's stuck out
Speaker 1: a little bit. I was just making sure West new
Speaker 1: the opinion. There's a little heat between you and West
Speaker 1: right now because West you called Greg the patron saying
Speaker 1: of bad quarterback player or something. He loves bad quarterback
Speaker 1: and Greg that rubs Greg the wrong way as a scientist.
Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, here here's the old Zuss
Speaker 1: just having a scientist on scientists crime. He's just having fun.
Speaker 1: You know, Westlakes like only seven players in the NFL history,
Speaker 1: and they've all made the Hall of Fame. It's like
Speaker 1: you can like players that aren't the best players in
Speaker 1: the league, and right and case Keenum, right, pick some
Speaker 1: weird ones. Matt Castle's fine, I've roomed for Matt Castle.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with that chance? Any chance you have to
Speaker 1: put Joe back, Joe buck and Troy Hickman on Matt
Speaker 1: Castle to cool Beasley connection, you have to do it.
Speaker 1: They probably got to that's the terrible game. Why don't
Speaker 1: anybody wants I'm not excited for it? And they probably
Speaker 1: got old Tom Brenneman on this big Bombo because Joe
Speaker 1: buck Uh is doing baseball. Tom had uh something we
Speaker 1: like to call around here, La Raville magnificence. Do we
Speaker 1: have that city magnifico? What was it last week and
Speaker 1: the Cardinals Steelers game when he thought the Steelers scored
Speaker 1: a touchdown because one of the Cardinals players had touched it.
Speaker 1: It's it's complicated, but he had no idea what the
Speaker 1: rules of the game were on a punt after the
Speaker 1: you know, punting team touches the ball first, so he
Speaker 1: thought it was a live ball. He thought it was
Speaker 1: a big play. No one corrected him for forty five seconds.
Speaker 1: It was a huge moment in the game. And he's
Speaker 1: the play by play guy about it. I really get
Speaker 1: the UFC guy back. I was offended, Like Joe Buck,
Speaker 1: primarily a baseball guy and also the son of a
Speaker 1: broadcasting legend. Okay, then don't then don't put it on
Speaker 1: the number one game. Don't don't be knocking Tom Brandon.
Speaker 1: He's a Cincinnati legend. And for those of you who
Speaker 1: do not know what the real Magnifico's great dances. That
Speaker 1: is when someone it could be in casual conversation at
Speaker 1: a party or at work, or you're watching someone on
Speaker 1: television or an analyst where they say something and immediately
Speaker 1: in your mind you note, I cannot, I can never
Speaker 1: take you seriously again. You just just revealed. It's a
Speaker 1: great reveal anyway, where worried, Oh believe it loosely translate
Speaker 1: to the magnificent H O. D. B. By the way,
Speaker 1: keep an eye on this because we knew we had
Speaker 1: the hamstring issues. Um last year they cost them four
Speaker 1: games and all the preseason, and uh. Tom Coughlin said
Speaker 1: Thursday that you know, there is a chance where they
Speaker 1: might have to go that route where he doesn't practice
Speaker 1: really ever and just plays on Sunday. So this could
Speaker 1: be something that sticks around. And they don't have their
Speaker 1: bye week till week eleven. So if Odell is gonna
Speaker 1: stay in the field, he's gonna have to gut it out.
Speaker 1: And West, I know he's your boy, but toughness. Can
Speaker 1: he be trusted to stay on the field and get
Speaker 1: this done and be a transcendent playoff? I don't question
Speaker 1: people's toughness for hamstrings, you can either you either. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're ever bad hamstring, you can't do anything alright. Um.
Speaker 1: One other thing about this game, though, a man you'd
Speaker 1: like to call Christine Kristen Michael Christine, how Boys coaches
Speaker 1: are talking about talking him up. He's gonna have a
Speaker 1: bigger rule this week. You know again, West's Boys, Cowboys
Speaker 1: are gonna win this. Yes, I do because none of
Speaker 1: these teams are going to be able to go away
Speaker 1: and hide it had it has to be a three
Speaker 1: team race, I feel like all season, and so with
Speaker 1: that in mind, the Cowboys will win. I like that
Speaker 1: we all picked the Giants except for the renegade Connor
Speaker 1: Or he must be looking at your picks. He has
Speaker 1: to be at this point. And again, none of it
Speaker 1: really matters because for all of his his picks, he's
Speaker 1: in second to last place, not not buried by any stretch.
Speaker 1: But um, you know, it all kind of works out.
Speaker 1: Nothing matters, basically, alright. Moving on, the Philadelphia Eagles got
Speaker 1: that win over the Giants on Monday night despite their
Speaker 1: quarterback playing terribly, leaving some more questions about what's going
Speaker 1: on in Philly. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: they're in three three and three and tie the top
Speaker 1: the NFC East and now they face, yes, the undefeated
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. And uh, how about what Camp said, by
Speaker 1: the way on Wednesday, Um, he pitched the idea and
Speaker 1: I don't even know if he was joking it was
Speaker 1: he said he doesn't he finds the entire media uh
Speaker 1: comical at times, and that would include us. Um for
Speaker 1: making predictions, and then even though we have the chance
Speaker 1: to back off certain things, we don't ever take ownership
Speaker 1: of wrong predictions. But we love to bury. So his
Speaker 1: plan was, you make a wrong prediction, media, you get
Speaker 1: it deducted from your pay, get a right prediction, get
Speaker 1: some more money it stop making predictions, and that'd be fine.
Speaker 1: I think predictions are overrated. We do a lot of him.
Speaker 1: I get we do, but I think you listen to
Speaker 1: literally of this show, that's not true at all. You
Speaker 1: just say it as an off handed thing. And I
Speaker 1: think the people listening to the show, if they like
Speaker 1: the show, they like it because of the interaction. They
Speaker 1: like because the analysis the information. They don't like like
Speaker 1: who cares who wins or loses, because no one in
Speaker 1: the end ever remembers that. I would love for people
Speaker 1: to track our predictions, but I don't really care about
Speaker 1: who wins the game, and that's the kind of prediction
Speaker 1: I don't really care. Get my lunch dot org right,
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. I know enough to know that
Speaker 1: we don't know anything in terms of being able to
Speaker 1: predict things. Right. If if you're great at predicting things,
Speaker 1: then over a five year stretch. Maybe you'll be good
Speaker 1: at being fifty eight percent instead of fifty two. But
Speaker 1: who's who's ever going to keep track of that? Nobody,
Speaker 1: nobody's qualified to judge. It has annoyed by Cam's comments. No,
Speaker 1: it's fun It was. It was funny. He was saying, Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't you know Someone asked if he would get
Speaker 1: into TV after his career, is like, no, I wouldn't never,
Speaker 1: I'm not into that. And then someone's like, but didn't
Speaker 1: you just sign up to do a TV show? I
Speaker 1: thought that was funny, but it was not a show
Speaker 1: as a commentator. It was a show on Nickelodeon. What
Speaker 1: are he was doing with kids? Well? This is you know,
Speaker 1: maybe him is just feeling his oats right now. He's
Speaker 1: becoming a better, more consistent passer and now he's just
Speaker 1: letting it fly because he's got that sort of confidence
Speaker 1: after that fourth quarter performance in Seattle. He knows he
Speaker 1: can conquer all. I mean, that is the difference this here,
Speaker 1: I think with Cam is he's more consistent. He's not
Speaker 1: having those stinker games or stinker halfs like he used to.
Speaker 1: What about this game? Is this a game where West
Speaker 1: where the Eagles offense, which really is hard to figure
Speaker 1: out right now. They did get their running game on
Speaker 1: track with DeMarco Murray last week, but Bradford still not
Speaker 1: playing well. As I said earlier, Uh this, they could
Speaker 1: get in a bad spot on the road in Carolina here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: these teams are pretty even personnel wise except for the quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: I think. And you could look at it like the
Speaker 1: Panthers aren't really five and oh good, there could there
Speaker 1: could be a letdown game coming off of the big
Speaker 1: win in Seattle. But then I watched their game and
Speaker 1: and I wanted to pick the Eagles, and I just
Speaker 1: can't because the Panthers defense with Luke kickleback and Kawan
Speaker 1: Short playing so great, Josh Norman playing better than any
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. I just can't pick against their defense.
Speaker 1: They're so good. And I really do like the Eagles
Speaker 1: defense too. Ron Rivera doesn't get enough credit in this
Speaker 1: room and from I had included myself on that because
Speaker 1: we picked on his love love river management at some
Speaker 1: point is clock management. But you don't think of him
Speaker 1: as one of the best coaches in the league. He
Speaker 1: doesn't get to based on results and what he's done
Speaker 1: with that team. And really just that defense. But that's
Speaker 1: for the most part what head coaches are. They're gonna
Speaker 1: specialize in one thing. He didn't have Luke Keikley for
Speaker 1: for most of this stretch. He hasn't had Charles Johnson.
Speaker 1: He's had Josh Norman and Kawan Short as the two
Speaker 1: best defensive players on a dominant defense. And that is
Speaker 1: a time where you gotta give a lot of credit
Speaker 1: to the coach. Sean mcdermot's gotta Sean McCarney. He's got
Speaker 1: a system that works, that it works every year that
Speaker 1: you can put in benwi Bernickery or whatever. I can't
Speaker 1: even say that you know what this team needs. Steve
Speaker 1: Smith's son Peyton, took the Twitter today and said Panther
Speaker 1: should trade all the receivers to Baltimore and bring back
Speaker 1: my dad. Now. Yahoo came out and shot down that report.
Speaker 1: They said they have a source that says the Ravens
Speaker 1: are more likely to try to convince Steve Smith to
Speaker 1: return for another year than to trade him. But I
Speaker 1: just feel like that would be an awesome trade because
Speaker 1: the Panthers, what they their team weakness is that the
Speaker 1: receivers lack any semblance of physicality and don't really catch
Speaker 1: the ball. Welleve Smith would be great standing in the
Speaker 1: way other than I guess, yes there is bad blood,
Speaker 1: but that's he took a blow towards to their front.
Speaker 1: But that that's big super Bowl here and they need
Speaker 1: a wide receiver and the Ravens. Listen, if Steve Smith
Speaker 1: tells the Ravens I'm not playing another year, and the
Speaker 1: Ravens are and also ran team by the time we
Speaker 1: get to November, there to me, there's no reason why
Speaker 1: you wouldn't move him if he if he wanted to
Speaker 1: be moved. But we don't even know if that's the case. Well,
Speaker 1: they got about it, what a week and a half
Speaker 1: before the trade deadline, so the Ravens would have to
Speaker 1: be waving the white flag, which might be tough for
Speaker 1: them to Why is that so early, that's always when
Speaker 1: it is. They actually moved back a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: A few years to go used to be ridiculous. I
Speaker 1: want to see this trade. I want to see Steve
Speaker 1: Smith in the playoffs one more time. Really seal up
Speaker 1: that Hall of Fame. It would be cool Steve Smith
Speaker 1: and Jonathan Stewart together playing well. I mean, I I've
Speaker 1: always loved Jonathan Stewart's been one of my favorite. He
Speaker 1: didn't look good this year until the Seattle but he's
Speaker 1: starting to look good. I think he's been better than
Speaker 1: his numbers. He's not the same guy he used to be,
Speaker 1: but he's running tough. And finally the Monday night game, uh,
Speaker 1: the aforementioned Baltimore Ravens and one in five. Uh they
Speaker 1: travel to Arizona Glendale to face the Cardinals, who are
Speaker 1: four and two and uh, you know, as we said,
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are just one and two. Since being named
Speaker 1: the Team of around the NFL, it is a a
Speaker 1: very special honor. Um. So perhaps they're pressing a little bit.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, this feels like a really
Speaker 1: nice matchup in prime time. They got an extra day
Speaker 1: to rest, rest up, and now they get a Ravens
Speaker 1: team that's been you know, there were fortunate to even
Speaker 1: have one win this season. So, um, Greg, you're you're saying,
Speaker 1: maybe you disagree, this feels like a spot where the
Speaker 1: Cardinals are gonna roll. What do you think? I agree?
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are better than most one in
Speaker 1: five teams, certainly, and they've been in really every game
Speaker 1: and I hear what you're saying, but they could by
Speaker 1: that logic there there also could be three and three
Speaker 1: or four and two because they're they're in every game
Speaker 1: at the end, and the offense has been looking better.
Speaker 1: The offensive line has been looking better. I think they
Speaker 1: have some signs of life on offense. But when you
Speaker 1: play the Cardinals, you better have a complete team, and
Speaker 1: I don't think the Ravens do. And I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna give up thirtys in this game and they're gonna lose.
Speaker 1: Cardinals play with so much energy at home and on
Speaker 1: national TV on top of it, after coming off a loss.
Speaker 1: This is a buzz soule for the Ravens. I agree
Speaker 1: they had some good things in that Steelers game that
Speaker 1: that was new even though they lost the game. I mean,
Speaker 1: Andrea Ellington's back and no one even cares or notices,
Speaker 1: but he is a nice addition, especially because he's no
Speaker 1: longer the primary carrier. He is a great, great third
Speaker 1: down back, if that's essentially what he is. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he is one of the best two minute drillbacks
Speaker 1: in the league because he can actually play wide receiver exactly,
Speaker 1: and then he they hit him downfield on a big
Speaker 1: play last week because of that. So that's a nice
Speaker 1: little addition you added to your team right there. I
Speaker 1: have a new not a new stable of boys, but
Speaker 1: one of my favorite players to watch the entire league
Speaker 1: is Honey Badger. I love watching that guy. He does
Speaker 1: everything for them. He blitzes, he stuffs to run cover corner.
Speaker 1: He's all. He's always flying around blitz is. He's great.
Speaker 1: They're really good like the Patriots, and maybe even better
Speaker 1: at it. On defensive using players in different ways. Dan
Speaker 1: Buchanan essentially is a line linebacker. I mean he was
Speaker 1: playing great run support. They have six defensive backs on
Speaker 1: the field half the time, and they just deploy him
Speaker 1: in ways that teams have a have a tough time accounting.
Speaker 1: Doesn't get enough attention that they're really the only team
Speaker 1: in the league that constantly plays six defensive back. This
Speaker 1: is getting ridiculous. By the way I'm looking at these picks.
Speaker 1: Connor Or has taken the Baltimore Ravens, and Connor it's
Speaker 1: clearly he's now he's playing up to the camera or
Speaker 1: to the microphone. He has six hero picks this week,
Speaker 1: and he took the Eagles as well. Which would have
Speaker 1: been a hero but uh, Kevin Patrick also took the
Speaker 1: Eagles in the Panthers game. So you know this is
Speaker 1: a big week for a man overseas. Make a place. CJ. Moseley,
Speaker 1: remember that he has not had had a good second season.
Speaker 1: Uh So yes, that is the preview of week seven.
Speaker 1: We will be back um on Sunday night with our
Speaker 1: world famous iconic that seems a little you call it
Speaker 1: our flagship, our flagship program, the weekly recap show, So
Speaker 1: make sure you check back in with that with us
Speaker 1: on that on Sunday night, UM. But until then, this
Speaker 1: is Dan Hanson's signing off for The mail Man, The
Speaker 1: Boss Connor and Quiet Storm in England at Sydney behind
Speaker 1: the Glass until sum Day