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Speaker 1: from Mike Mayock. Welcome back to another edition to the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and
Speaker 1: I am joined by a room filled with some heroes.
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler to my left. Gregg grows and thought of
Speaker 1: my right, what is up? Fellas? We've had some problems
Speaker 1: with some of TV's drops of late. That was a
Speaker 1: good one, Hey Dan, Yeah, that was a good Hey Dan, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a solid drop. Money tag. Uh West still
Speaker 1: on vacation. We'll be all week so of Chris Westling fans,
Speaker 1: just you know, keep soldiering through this, keep downloading and
Speaker 1: listening uh to us uh and he will be back in.
Speaker 1: By the way, we tried on Friday to track down West.
Speaker 1: We failed. We're gonna try again. Call huckapoos. It's the
Speaker 1: only place to find him. So what's your worried level
Speaker 1: on West? I'd put it high, high, too very high.
Speaker 1: What are You're a supervisor? What about you? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: more worried. I think Dan sees Okay, if West doesn't
Speaker 1: come back, maybe that means a few extra NFL now
Speaker 1: spots for me and could be worse. You know what,
Speaker 1: I'm saying it could work out. I'd be very work.
Speaker 1: That's taking a mackew Velli in NFL. Now take on this,
Speaker 1: I think of it if West didn't come back. Greg's
Speaker 1: thinking of himself, Oh, I'm the only scientist quote unquote
Speaker 1: in the studio now and putting on putting these labels
Speaker 1: on punch of lab assistance and Greg, I don't like
Speaker 1: to put labels on things, man. Uh, So yes, we'll
Speaker 1: checking on West. We have Collie and wolf Um also
Speaker 1: known as the Wolf Woman. And as I say this,
Speaker 1: I meant to ask TD to cook up some type
Speaker 1: of wolf sound effect, but maybe we'll have to wait
Speaker 1: until another time. I'm very disappointed in myself about that.
Speaker 1: But Colleen Wolf, who's actually speaking amount of on that
Speaker 1: wrapping up and now hit and she's just gonna come
Speaker 1: into the studio whenever she gets here, and she'll join
Speaker 1: us for the show, which is a good one, very
Speaker 1: solid one. I was, uh, I enjoyed our last show
Speaker 1: where we we broke up quality STU Fantasia. That actually
Speaker 1: got me to listen to it again at night. That's
Speaker 1: a rarity for me. So that that will come back.
Speaker 1: But this is a you know, as we're in the
Speaker 1: slower portion of the NFL calendar. We're gonna continue to
Speaker 1: roll out of new segments. We're out another one today, um,
Speaker 1: based on the upcoming draft and uh, you know, so
Speaker 1: you get excited for that. A lot of exciting content, Greg,
Speaker 1: anything that can get foreign languages into the mix, like
Speaker 1: qualities to Fantasia. Thank you the German one too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the German Twitter follower that corrected me on something I said, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't remember any of it, the German version, yes,
Speaker 1: if the title. Um. And you know, speaking of of
Speaker 1: new different things coming up later this week. Only two
Speaker 1: shows this week, by the way, because we have you know,
Speaker 1: west On vacation and you know, a lot of things cooking, uh,
Speaker 1: a little bit of all the news. We're gonna do
Speaker 1: two shows this week, and but we're gonna make a
Speaker 1: special one. Our next show will go up probably on Thursday,
Speaker 1: and it will be produced by the gold Standard but
Speaker 1: also Greg And this was Greg's idea, directed by the
Speaker 1: gold Stender. What does that mean, Greg, Well, he's gonna
Speaker 1: come up with a variety of mental uh, competitions and
Speaker 1: what not for us to go through, like a gold
Speaker 1: Standard to cathalon let him stretch his legs a little
Speaker 1: bit before he goes he's gonna leave us soon. And yes,
Speaker 1: he actually approached He approached me about an hour before
Speaker 1: the pod started and gave me a couple of the
Speaker 1: just give a general sketch of what he's thinking about,
Speaker 1: and it's going to be bonkers, very emailed. One idea
Speaker 1: which we won't say, which I loved last time I played.
Speaker 1: It was around a campfire with a variety of young
Speaker 1: men and women. And yeah, and don't let uh and
Speaker 1: don't let his aw shucks nature fool you. This is
Speaker 1: another shot across the bow of TV, behind the glass.
Speaker 1: What is going on? Guys? I mean, I'm just gonna say,
Speaker 1: I feel kind of sulty that I wasn't asked to
Speaker 1: direct the show. You can do it too, is my guy?
Speaker 1: Is my boy? So I have food for now. You
Speaker 1: know it's gonna make it happen. We should do a
Speaker 1: t D Thursday. Yeah, well that's what I said to
Speaker 1: t D before. You know, gold every show is your
Speaker 1: is t show. It feels a little stale. I mean
Speaker 1: we've just given the assignment to gold Standard. Now we
Speaker 1: should have one for t V. Well, it's a little
Speaker 1: a little bit like you thought a little bit as
Speaker 1: a motivating ploy, maybe a little message behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: but from management. I don't know. I guess I guess
Speaker 1: that's what it is. But you know you said, go
Speaker 1: stand is my boy, and uh, I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: that show should be a fun one, alright. Good. So, yes,
Speaker 1: we will talk about the upcoming draft game that has
Speaker 1: no name, but it's uh, you know, we're gonna each
Speaker 1: throw out a couple of teams that cannot afford to
Speaker 1: pass on selecting this either a player or a position.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get into that. We're also going to uh
Speaker 1: really have no name. It does not have a name.
Speaker 1: Do you have an idea for a name? Well, that's
Speaker 1: the name? Okay, what the game that has no name? Exactly?
Speaker 1: All right? Cool? I like it. Well, how's that for directing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was good. Let's c plus uh. And then we
Speaker 1: also something I wrote on Sunday, I looked at the
Speaker 1: rest of the remaining free agents and made a all
Speaker 1: free agency team. Uh, kind of a sad group, but
Speaker 1: also somewhat intriguing. So we'll go through that and and
Speaker 1: take a look at that roster and maybe talk about
Speaker 1: some of the players but before any of that, not
Speaker 1: a ton of news out there, but there is some
Speaker 1: stuff to talk about, So TV, it's this news. I
Speaker 1: demand a tryer by come back. They just running back,
Speaker 1: just running them back. Now, well there's a story there.
Speaker 1: But you know, way we were just talking about, were
Speaker 1: subtly motivating. You pushing some buttons, and that's how you
Speaker 1: give a story. There's a back story to it. First
Speaker 1: of all, that might be one of the games on
Speaker 1: the next show, you know, since you guys I hate is. Secondly,
Speaker 1: is that my initial job was so Colleen Wolf, but
Speaker 1: she's not here yet. Okay, all right, well then what
Speaker 1: is the one you drop him here? That again? I
Speaker 1: demand a tryer by coming out last day? Obviously winter
Speaker 1: is coming, you know, I like five days away from
Speaker 1: game with their own season five from me. Guys, get excited,
Speaker 1: get excited? All right? Good? Who else should be excited?
Speaker 1: I'll tell you should be excited. Denarius More should be
Speaker 1: excited because he's got a job, because he's leading our news.
Speaker 1: He leading the news. And Narius More has signed a
Speaker 1: one year deal with the Bengals. I don't know how
Speaker 1: he led the news. Actually didn't think about it. There
Speaker 1: could have been someone else that led it, but it's
Speaker 1: too late now. The twenty year old receiver spent his
Speaker 1: first four seasons with Oakland. UH kind of flamed out
Speaker 1: last year and lost his his job. Now joins the
Speaker 1: Bengals in a you know, reserve role. Potentially can move
Speaker 1: up that chart, though, because Marvin Jones, of course, is
Speaker 1: coming off a year where he missed the entire season
Speaker 1: with injuries. Mohamed Sannoo sneaky terrible year last year, So
Speaker 1: maybe the Bengals don't have the depth at wide receiver
Speaker 1: and we thought they did well. Denarius More sneaky, terrible career.
Speaker 1: He is someone we I randomly came across UH position
Speaker 1: rankings we did two years ago and I don't remember
Speaker 1: who wrote it, but then Arius More was shockingly high.
Speaker 1: So there was a time when we saw him as
Speaker 1: a guy who could be a number one type of
Speaker 1: top thirty or forty NFL wide receiver. There were and
Speaker 1: if you look at his numbers, he did have some
Speaker 1: seasons where he you know, I was approaching eight yards.
Speaker 1: He had seven touchdowns in two thousand twelve. So there
Speaker 1: was a time and Hugh Jackson that was when he
Speaker 1: was being coached by Hugh Jackson, who's now reunited with Soup.
Speaker 1: You want to get excited about Denarius more, go ahead,
Speaker 1: camp body, good luck. I'm excited about what's going on
Speaker 1: in this room right right as we're just starting the
Speaker 1: first news craps any missed the Denarius Moore hit. Her.
Speaker 1: Her name is Colleen Wolf, the Wolf Woman, wolf Woman
Speaker 1: who we I failed to get a drop for you
Speaker 1: for this Way to Go, but next time you're on,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you will have one. But welcome to the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast. Wolf. This is great, it's up gang. Alright, guys,
Speaker 1: we're just getting started here. My favorite I was not
Speaker 1: responsible for that, but that is that is the wolf
Speaker 1: that we know from the NFL now hits where we've
Speaker 1: all gotten to know each other inside the draft room.
Speaker 1: That's where. That's from a new show with DJ and
Speaker 1: I watched that on Friday, oh TD plugging a show
Speaker 1: involving Daniel Jeremiah. Wow. Alright, alright, here we go. So Colleen,
Speaker 1: you welcome to the show. This is the second time
Speaker 1: you've been on the show. I believe the first time
Speaker 1: was during the combine. Mark and I were not in
Speaker 1: the room. You're here with with Greg, A big step.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like when they hope when you host
Speaker 1: SNL a second time. It's a big kind of you.
Speaker 1: Now you've got a chance. You're just gonna you could
Speaker 1: be in the five timers club the stage. That's no different, alright,
Speaker 1: So welcome Colleen, let's get a right to it. Um.
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson is to meet with the NFL about his reinstatement.
Speaker 1: NFL Media inside Ian Rappaport reported that Peterson will meet
Speaker 1: with the NFL on Tuesday to discuss his future. The
Speaker 1: meeting is ahead of schedule for Peterson, who was supposed
Speaker 1: to be eligible for reinstatement on April. Um, Greg, we'll
Speaker 1: start with you on this. Does this all seem two parts?
Speaker 1: I'll start with you on this, Greg, Does this all
Speaker 1: seem headed toward a reinstatement where he's back on the
Speaker 1: books and going to be part of the team or
Speaker 1: is this gonna get a little messier before it gets
Speaker 1: cleaned up. No. I think he's served his time and
Speaker 1: it's going to just be one of those rubber stamp
Speaker 1: put him back in whenever they have the year suspension
Speaker 1: where it's a year but it could be more. It's
Speaker 1: always just a year, yea. And then then I'll ask
Speaker 1: Colleen and Mark this week one Colin you first, will
Speaker 1: he be in a Vikings uniform? I think so. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he'll be happy about it, but I
Speaker 1: think he will be. Unfortunately for the Cardinals and other
Speaker 1: teams that he would look really good on their on
Speaker 1: their roster. I think he'll be playing for the Vikings, Mark.
Speaker 1: I mean, the timing is tight if they if Minnesota
Speaker 1: doesn't have a complete resolution on Peterson, they almost have
Speaker 1: to go draft someone. I like Jerem McKinnon, but Matt
Speaker 1: Asiata is your only other option there, so I think
Speaker 1: he's sticking around. We have a resolution. I think they
Speaker 1: will know his status in terms of by got to
Speaker 1: know if he is going to agree to play for
Speaker 1: them too and not pull some wild hold out. If
Speaker 1: if I were there, might look at it like he's
Speaker 1: probably gone after this year or next at the very latest. Anyways,
Speaker 1: So they're gonna have to draft someone to be ready
Speaker 1: either way. Well, they just did that with Jerick McKinney.
Speaker 1: But do you trust him? He's one another one? Uh?
Speaker 1: Moving on, So you know we've heard West isn't here
Speaker 1: to talk about Odell Beckham his boy. But we've heard
Speaker 1: a lot right now. West thinks he's a Hall of
Speaker 1: Fan talent, Hall of Fame guy, future Hall of Famer um.
Speaker 1: Then the hype isn't building a building that's you know,
Speaker 1: only April, just wait until September. Michael Strahan, former Giants
Speaker 1: great Um, came out and said on the Players Tribute,
Speaker 1: I think that's the Derk Jeter website. Is that what
Speaker 1: that is? They write their own thing? Yeah? Uh. He
Speaker 1: said that Odell Beckham Jr. Is quote the greatest athlete
Speaker 1: on earth right now. And I can't help and Mark,
Speaker 1: you wrote this piece. I cannot help but think we're
Speaker 1: starting to edge into dangerous territory where we're just gonna
Speaker 1: jinx this guy because we're putting him, putting them on
Speaker 1: the pedestal. It's too soon about him on this pedestal.
Speaker 1: You also put him on the pedestal next to Lebron James.
Speaker 1: He strayhand couldn't even answer the question. He had to
Speaker 1: put two players there, not one, So let's I wanted
Speaker 1: to call him out on that, but it was Saturday.
Speaker 1: I was extremely tired. I just wanted to get the
Speaker 1: post done. Let's get it up. Get the metrics. Greg
Speaker 1: is here, right, Greg would approve of that method. But listen,
Speaker 1: I mean, well, all right, you want to go down
Speaker 1: that road, keep going. I'm gonna get here. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's excited, but give him that. Who cares. It's just
Speaker 1: one guy's opinion. He's very excited about this guy, and
Speaker 1: he's a very awesome player to watch. So yeah, and
Speaker 1: then the NFC East is, uh, you know, not the
Speaker 1: Eagles fan coming out in college. So who do you
Speaker 1: guys go with their greatest athlete on Earth? Could we
Speaker 1: stick to the NFL at least? Well, I don't know,
Speaker 1: probably say some Olympian that jumps, like right, what about
Speaker 1: these guys that jumped out from building to building, unnamed
Speaker 1: unpro athletes on YouTube. These guys like like leap from
Speaker 1: like building top to buildings. Couldn't do that throwing Mark's
Speaker 1: boy Novak Djokovic right now. I mean, that's not going
Speaker 1: to be a popular answer, but he was unbelievable athlete.
Speaker 1: He's the best. He's never one tennis player in the world.
Speaker 1: I always think that the people that can swim from
Speaker 1: like one continent to another or something like that, that
Speaker 1: they kind of get my right, a human feet right,
Speaker 1: So we'll go with Odell beck But couldn't any couldn't
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham or Lebron James or a million other people
Speaker 1: do that if that's just what they set their lives to.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things. Not many people really want
Speaker 1: to swim across the ocean. So if you're really you
Speaker 1: focused on that, you're gonna get it done well. Ends
Speaker 1: point is, have we pushed him too far away? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I agree, and I you know, I love West, but
Speaker 1: I've said it to West. West has pushed him too far.
Speaker 1: He named him a Hall of Famer already. And but
Speaker 1: West isn't alone. You know, there's a lot of people
Speaker 1: they're doing so Michael Strange on that corner, I mean
Speaker 1: even before after one game or so. Of course he
Speaker 1: was early on the corner. He called him a Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame, hall of famer after after one week, after
Speaker 1: one week of playing, he was basically the West article
Speaker 1: the greatest players in the league, and he called him
Speaker 1: equivalent of Michael Jordan. And downstairs in the news room,
Speaker 1: this was the night of the Cowboys game against the Giants.
Speaker 1: He was being laughed at by people I won't name
Speaker 1: who just said, you're out of control. He's not Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 1: Two minutes later, that catch happens. He just stood up
Speaker 1: and walked out of the room, as you should moment.
Speaker 1: But and I respect West as a football mind, but
Speaker 1: I'm still not putting him on the level of Michael Jordan's.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I think that to West is to speak
Speaker 1: for West. And I understand where he's coming from. When
Speaker 1: Dan Marino was a rookie or Randy Moss was a rookie,
Speaker 1: you knew how good those guys were. And he's putting
Speaker 1: Nodell Beckham in that class. And we've seen all these
Speaker 1: other cool things. He's dunking, he's doing all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 1: But that catch in and of itself just made everybody
Speaker 1: lose your mind to not see anything else. If you
Speaker 1: just isolated his rookie year, then I think you can
Speaker 1: make the case he's had. He had as great a
Speaker 1: rookie year as any guy we've seen in twenty Have
Speaker 1: you ever had a first year on the job where
Speaker 1: everyone is just like this guy. He files reports faster
Speaker 1: than anyone I've ever seen. Book him in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame. People are talking about Colleen's first year at
Speaker 1: NFL now transcendent talent, real quick. I would say this
Speaker 1: though about ODV, please do he as a fan of
Speaker 1: soccer and basketball, which a more individual sports. Beckham is
Speaker 1: the one guy's coming to the scene. It's not a
Speaker 1: quarterback that you just have to keep that eye out for.
Speaker 1: Every week after week he makes plays. The guy is
Speaker 1: specially no doubt, no question, gimme Dez Bryant. Moving forward
Speaker 1: to Shaun Galtzon has been traded another huge flop to
Speaker 1: the Bucks, who gave out big money to get Golts
Speaker 1: in a few years back. He's been traded now to
Speaker 1: the Redskins. The steal went down Friday. Uh. The deal
Speaker 1: cost Washington a sixth round pick um and it saves
Speaker 1: the Bucks four million and salary cap space. Per team source,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a salary dump trade. It's it's about
Speaker 1: as far as the value can drop from signing to
Speaker 1: getting moved without any major injury. Well, he's thirty two
Speaker 1: year old safety. Well maybe that's the problem. I guess
Speaker 1: I thought he was older than he really is. I
Speaker 1: mean he he is a part of that entire Buccaneers crop.
Speaker 1: When Shiano came in and now it's lovely Smith. It's
Speaker 1: like they're still cleaning up mistakes from the previous regime.
Speaker 1: I'm confused, though, because didn't the Bucks say that if
Speaker 1: they didn't find anybody that they could trade with, that
Speaker 1: they were going to drop him, Like, weren't they ready
Speaker 1: to move on regardless? So why didn't the Redskins just
Speaker 1: sort of wait for that to happen. That's a fair question.
Speaker 1: They gave a little more patient Yeah, they gave virtually nothing.
Speaker 1: My guess is the Bucks just waited him out and
Speaker 1: moved down from the sixth to the seventh. He knows
Speaker 1: Scott mcclowen knows Goldson when he was at in San
Speaker 1: Francisco for a cup of cof It's the same. It's
Speaker 1: a similar situation when the Jets traded to get Ryan
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick and gave a sixth round pick. They probably could
Speaker 1: have waited after him get released and then, but they
Speaker 1: didn't want to take the chance. You need to get
Speaker 1: the Amish rifle in the building when you have an opportunity,
Speaker 1: and that's what Big Mac did. I like that Levy
Speaker 1: Smith is just like cleaning out, just like you know,
Speaker 1: just like Chip Kelly here He's like, you don't fit
Speaker 1: my system. And Love is also cleaning out a lot
Speaker 1: of the guys that they brought in last year when
Speaker 1: he was there, so he's like just saying I made
Speaker 1: a mistake. Golton isn't one of those guys. But that
Speaker 1: team has been a disaster alright. So we know we
Speaker 1: talked about the Reggie Bush hype trainer. I talked about
Speaker 1: it a lot. Another one, another hype train, and maybe
Speaker 1: it's the evolutionary hype train. Is now the Percy Harvin
Speaker 1: hype train. Every year we talked about or hear about
Speaker 1: how this is gonna be the year where he really
Speaker 1: he comes into his own. Now he's in Buffalo with
Speaker 1: the Bills and uh, Percy, you know, at the beginning
Speaker 1: of workouts talk to reporters and had this to say,
Speaker 1: the world has yet to see me really explode like
Speaker 1: I'm about to. I mean that could be good or bad.
Speaker 1: By the way, is that on the field, in the
Speaker 1: locker room, on the streets. I don't know, That's what
Speaker 1: I mean. Uh And uh, so Percy thinks this is
Speaker 1: the year. I guess he did have one big, big
Speaker 1: season in Minnesota with Brett Farve, but now this will
Speaker 1: be the year that he quote explodes. Uh, Colleen Wolf,
Speaker 1: do you see it happening this year without really a
Speaker 1: quarter Yeah, great quarterback in place, but obviously a great talent.
Speaker 1: If he stays healthy, it's not crazy. It could have
Speaker 1: a big year in that offense. I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: it's not impossible, but the quarterback position is where it
Speaker 1: all starts. I love Buffalo. I've said that before in
Speaker 1: segments with Rosie, but I think that but you look
Speaker 1: at they just they need a quarterback to who. They
Speaker 1: don't need somebody who's going to be amazing at the position.
Speaker 1: They just need so buddy who can manage the game.
Speaker 1: And then if they can get that, if they can
Speaker 1: manage that, then I think Percy could do well, that's
Speaker 1: Matt Castle, baby, he can do it. Percy Harvin, though,
Speaker 1: teams have been trying to figure out a good role
Speaker 1: for him his whole career and they haven't really been
Speaker 1: able to. He's not really a wide receiver. Well, Roman's
Speaker 1: not a bad guy to take a shot at that
Speaker 1: number one. But it's April and there was a lifting
Speaker 1: session in Buffalo, so like fourteen, Bills players talked about
Speaker 1: their team as if they're heading straight for the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan, who has learned nothing at all, cannot constrain
Speaker 1: himself already talking about winning big games. Ridiculous. Stop talking.
Speaker 1: You just don't like Stop talking, you just don't like
Speaker 1: writing April posts about optimistics. It's ridiculous, is what it is.
Speaker 1: It's what you can't walk around in April saying we're
Speaker 1: going to explode, We're gonna win big games. This is
Speaker 1: a team that's done nothing for a decade plus, go
Speaker 1: do it? Isn't that the point? Though? Like they're trying
Speaker 1: to establish that this is a new start for Buffalo
Speaker 1: and there's something to get excited about. There never do
Speaker 1: it on the field? How about that? Does happen before
Speaker 1: I got in here? No, everything was fine, But once
Speaker 1: you get Rex. Shirts open, a little hint of chest there.
Speaker 1: This is the different look from Mark Mark on his
Speaker 1: off day coming in And by the way, big up
Speaker 1: star Mark for coming in on his off day to
Speaker 1: do the show. But he comes in shirt open, looked
Speaker 1: like a cast member of like Evening Shade. It looks great.
Speaker 1: I don't have to be anywhere before after this? So
Speaker 1: who am I dressing for? Where do you go next?
Speaker 1: After this, I have no idea the streets. It's a
Speaker 1: great place to be, alright, that's what's happening. Can you
Speaker 1: move my car parked that on this I don't operate
Speaker 1: um alright, So so I don't know if you guys,
Speaker 1: uh we're checking out NFL dot com on Easter Sunday.
Speaker 1: But I did write something about the free agency group
Speaker 1: that's left, and there's not a lot of big time
Speaker 1: pieces and free agency left. However, there is enough to
Speaker 1: make like a decent raw that I found out, not
Speaker 1: a great one. But you know, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a playoff team by any stretch. But I don't think
Speaker 1: it's an O and sixteen team. It's a little old.
Speaker 1: It's a little You compared the free agent market to
Speaker 1: a barren bodega in New York, and used to bodega,
Speaker 1: by the way, not a word I was, you know,
Speaker 1: familiar with until I lived in New York. For that
Speaker 1: those were they. And you know, I probably shouldn't have
Speaker 1: limited to New York now that I think about, because
Speaker 1: there used to be one, uh down the street for
Speaker 1: where I live now here in l A. That clearly
Speaker 1: something was amiss because you would go in it was
Speaker 1: next to the gas station. It was a part of
Speaker 1: the gas station, and the shells would be all empty.
Speaker 1: It would just be dust collected on whatever was there.
Speaker 1: And then one day I just went up to the cashier.
Speaker 1: I was like, you guys are closing or something, right,
Speaker 1: and she's like, don't tell anyone. Yes, it was kind
Speaker 1: of anyway. So I used the bodega as an analogy
Speaker 1: because at this point, maybe you shouldn't trust any of
Speaker 1: the guys in this market, but you might just end
Speaker 1: up buying it anyway because you're desperate. And uh. I
Speaker 1: put together the following team. I got Mike Vick and quarterback,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, shake you off the bat, but
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Running backs? I like, I'm
Speaker 1: out of Bradshaw and Stephen Ridley, you know, injury prone,
Speaker 1: but you know, sneaky good potentially. I like my wide
Speaker 1: receiver group Michael Crabtree, Greg Jennings and Wes Welker. Uh
Speaker 1: tight end Jermaine Greshian, who cares. And then I wish
Speaker 1: you would look at everybody right now to what am
Speaker 1: I missing. I'm just I'm watching Greg's face and it's
Speaker 1: just you're like, You're like I like this wide receiver
Speaker 1: group with Wes Welker and Greg Jennings. You though, I
Speaker 1: think temper the am I like doing backflips about my team.
Speaker 1: I'm not you could easily market this team to the
Speaker 1: average football fan from five years ago. Yeah whatever, Greg,
Speaker 1: you know I'm trying my best team. I'm just I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be excited about you know, Welker and Jennings kind
Speaker 1: of right next to each other. We're having to worry
Speaker 1: about this A good team. I don't know. I got
Speaker 1: my lines, got Jake Long on it, the left tackle? Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Chris Meyers, I'm gonna a nice career, and
Speaker 1: Houston gonna slide him over to guard. Let's see how
Speaker 1: he does there. Feels a little desperate. Joe Barksdale, the
Speaker 1: youngest guy in my roster six. You know, you know
Speaker 1: it's not a bad offense. Your thoughts general. What you
Speaker 1: just said, He's one of the most insanely idiotic things
Speaker 1: I've ever heard. How many games does Michael Vick last for?
Speaker 1: What's your backup option? I well, I wrote that I'm
Speaker 1: gonna offer Kyle Orton a steak dinner, all right, now,
Speaker 1: that's how many games does this team win. Let's give
Speaker 1: them like a year of practice and games together, so
Speaker 1: not too long. That's too long because they're getting older.
Speaker 1: Well you know what I mean, Like it's almost unfair
Speaker 1: just making a whole new team. But you know, well,
Speaker 1: should I go through the defense too before we decide
Speaker 1: on the team's fate or do you want to talk
Speaker 1: about the offense? A lot to talk about on offense here,
Speaker 1: lots unpacked gohead mark your thoughts. Well, I think it's
Speaker 1: it is you know has pointed out with the vic
Speaker 1: scenario by Colleen. I mean, what happens to this team
Speaker 1: come mid October when a mod Bradshaw has his forty
Speaker 1: four toe injury, Michael Vick is out, West Welker has
Speaker 1: had another head injury, and the rest Jake Long you know,
Speaker 1: has leg injury four six. I don't know. That's a
Speaker 1: bad team. And fine, the old line isn't that bad?
Speaker 1: I would say that's it's not bad. The strongest part
Speaker 1: of the team is the old line. That's better or
Speaker 1: equal to some NFL teams out there. Crabtree's the guy
Speaker 1: I'm looking at here, and you know you mentioned the bodega.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of old material, empty shells. But you
Speaker 1: know he was the one that got discounted because they
Speaker 1: spelled something wrong on the cover of the box or
Speaker 1: something like that. But it's still looking good inside. I
Speaker 1: think there's a tasty crab tree to be had for
Speaker 1: some team out there. A little tasty crab I like that.
Speaker 1: That's Stephen Ridley yard rusher two years ago. Come back
Speaker 1: from a c L injury. Not what it used to be.
Speaker 1: You can come back from a c L s. He
Speaker 1: could be a guy who does some things. Probably the
Speaker 1: next guy in this list that gets signed by a
Speaker 1: real team. Yeah, PR Thomas, like Stephen Riley has a pickup.
Speaker 1: I think that's another good one. Um, what about depth.
Speaker 1: I don't see a whole lot of second third stringers
Speaker 1: at all in this Well. See, that's why you guys
Speaker 1: got to read this. Because I am hiring Mike west Off.
Speaker 1: He's going to fill out my special teams and my reserves.
Speaker 1: But most it's just I can go on his boat
Speaker 1: with him and just talk Shot west call him I randomly,
Speaker 1: when I was watching that Derek Carr stuff last week,
Speaker 1: I saw that the Broncos Raiders last week and the
Speaker 1: last catch potent I mean of the last week of
Speaker 1: the season. The last catch of Westwalker's career potentially was
Speaker 1: a thirty six yard catch and run. Maybe he's not
Speaker 1: he's coming back, Maybe he's not quite as that. Would
Speaker 1: you take these three white outs of the top three
Speaker 1: whiteouts on the Browns right now? Reminded me of Mark.
Speaker 1: I saw the shot in the Browns in the in
Speaker 1: the crawl underneath the roster. I'm being serious. Would you
Speaker 1: rather have this team or the Browns overall? West? I mean, Mark,
Speaker 1: I would take the Browns. I mean, well, no, I
Speaker 1: you know, I picked up this thing yesterday. I looked
Speaker 1: at I said, number one, Wait, good job by Dan
Speaker 1: to go out of his way to create new content
Speaker 1: on our website. But number two, I kind of like
Speaker 1: this team. They got a lot of hard I'm watching.
Speaker 1: Let's check out the defense. Here we go, Thanks Mark,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Uh we got a little a little
Speaker 1: long in the tooth at corner with Ike Taylor and
Speaker 1: Charles Tillman. Get Stevie Brown and Bernard Pollard safeties. Bernard
Speaker 1: Pollard now starting for every team and fake ones. Uh,
Speaker 1: Lance Briggs, Brandon Spikes. I like that signing by me.
Speaker 1: Joe May's Sean Phillips not as excited about that, Dwight Freeney,
Speaker 1: Red Bryant in the middle, there a little Barry Cofield
Speaker 1: and Matthias Kiwanuka and then my special team is Jay Feely,
Speaker 1: good guy, nice Tweeter and Matt McBriar, who's Australian. You're
Speaker 1: keeping this open because you're not sure about I'm not
Speaker 1: sure about three four or four three and just getting
Speaker 1: really smart moved by you. Thank you, thanks a lot.
Speaker 1: I think when none of your team is under thirty,
Speaker 1: it's good to keep. Who's the oldest guy you have
Speaker 1: on your team? That would be uh, probably Feely at
Speaker 1: thirty eight, sixteen and twenty four guys or thirty year older.
Speaker 1: So but that tells you a lot about this free
Speaker 1: agency market. Like if you're if you're a young, cheap guy,
Speaker 1: you probably get a job. If you're half decent. If
Speaker 1: you're an older guy, that's really good, you'll stay in
Speaker 1: the league. But if you're starting to get older and
Speaker 1: you're not like a stud, you're ending up on my
Speaker 1: fake team, and that's not good. This defense gives up
Speaker 1: about four next season. Can you imagine Aaron Rodgers coming
Speaker 1: to town to face tailor and Charles Tillman. I actually
Speaker 1: laughed out a lot out loud when I read read Bryant.
Speaker 1: It's a solid locker room. You're gonna need it. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be somebision, You'll notice because Greg, when we talk
Speaker 1: about the Greg Rosster, I think someone on Twitter put
Speaker 1: it well that yours is your team would be called
Speaker 1: forties and felonies, Like you have a lot of low
Speaker 1: character guys. This is a good locker room except for
Speaker 1: crab Tree. Yeah, we read Bryant, uh former around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast guest great large man and large there who
Speaker 1: coach You have to get to find the oldest GM possible,
Speaker 1: you know, to pivot in the right direction, and the
Speaker 1: oldest possible coach. Uh I was the Bills guy that
Speaker 1: left him. Can he can be your GM? Colleen is thinking,
Speaker 1: I wish we could waste time like this. This is great.
Speaker 1: I love By the way, what's the final record of
Speaker 1: this team? I said five and eleven. I was probably
Speaker 1: just being I think they go six and ten and
Speaker 1: they get out to a two and two starting people
Speaker 1: are on fire and then the ship just catch us
Speaker 1: on fire and sing. I think I think they're two unfortunately.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's tough. You know. I'm trying not
Speaker 1: to take it personally, but I seem to be struggling
Speaker 1: with it. There's no you put together the best team possible,
Speaker 1: but I would take the Jaguars over this team, wouldn't you?
Speaker 1: So this is I do something similar. If I can't sleep,
Speaker 1: I will draft teams in my head and then each other.
Speaker 1: You have a sleeping problem the other time that may
Speaker 1: not be the only problem, but that's right, Yeah, coming
Speaker 1: up with nicknames. Last time, you tell me you wake
Speaker 1: up at four thirty to research every day or read
Speaker 1: just read the headlines. Take me through this process that
Speaker 1: you're laying it. But do you actually put pen to
Speaker 1: paper or anything. No, no, no, I just do it
Speaker 1: in my head. And also, like this, I don't really
Speaker 1: know if I'm running a four three or three E
Speaker 1: four in my dreams, so I sort of keep it open,
Speaker 1: like it's like the best team ever, or there's restrictions
Speaker 1: like it can't be certain it's one. I can pick
Speaker 1: one player from each team, but I can't have more
Speaker 1: than one on a team. This sounds like a future
Speaker 1: segment we're looking to come up with. Are you thinking
Speaker 1: about this. You go ahead. You know the best artists,
Speaker 1: they don't write, They lay straight from straight from the
Speaker 1: dome worre to jay Z. Yeah, now that's jay Z.
Speaker 1: So it's hard to tell by the way. I noticed
Speaker 1: that TD's flow got a little smoother once Colleen got
Speaker 1: Dave's in here. He would have been checked out. It
Speaker 1: was like Barry White esque. There, I love it. Are
Speaker 1: you thinking about this on your Saturday strolls? I was
Speaker 1: driving with my family to go get some dinner on Saturday.
Speaker 1: I saw Kellena mosing down the street. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I've been pretty sentary, like I been going through
Speaker 1: the and like looking at team needs. But then I
Speaker 1: needed to actually move around, So yeah, I went for
Speaker 1: a little bit of a walk. It was like an exercise.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like it was Wait, did you see Greg
Speaker 1: and his family going by in an automobile. No, he
Speaker 1: saw me. I don't know. He didn't say hi. Well,
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna honk. I didn't really realize that's I
Speaker 1: was equal usually you. I wasn't gonna honk when somebody
Speaker 1: drives and like murdered out rolls Royce Phantom, you see it.
Speaker 1: You're right I don't know how I missed it. It's odd,
Speaker 1: all right, So that's my fake team that no one
Speaker 1: cares about. But we talked about it anyway, what you
Speaker 1: can do? Put him in l A. There we go,
Speaker 1: all right, Before we get to our our next topic
Speaker 1: where we talk about some draft needs and some ideas
Speaker 1: we have, let's let's try again to get in touch
Speaker 1: with Chris Westling, who has now been in Tybee fort
Speaker 1: four or five days. I go by hours versus is
Speaker 1: because where we'res in now, uh, in Tybee Island, that's
Speaker 1: a lot of time, a lot of time at Huckaboo,
Speaker 1: So we always look to west at Huckaboos. Uh, that's
Speaker 1: typically where he is. I like that you trusted marks
Speaker 1: completely fabricated hours total, that took it at face value.
Speaker 1: I trust him. Sounds right. I also am counting the
Speaker 1: day that he was checked out in the office, so
Speaker 1: it's actually correct. Alright. So let's get let's get huck
Speaker 1: a Poos on the line and uh, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Let's hope he picks up. Hey doing is Chris Westling
Speaker 1: at the establishment? Chris Westling? Is he at your establishment
Speaker 1: right now? By any chance? Okay, do you know has
Speaker 1: he been at the bar recently? Do you know? Okay, great, okay,
Speaker 1: well I'll try again to find him. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: This is distressing. Well, it only makes me more worried. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have no beat on the guy. That was the
Speaker 1: only local we know of that he inhabits alright, like
Speaker 1: I just said, not today, like he he was there
Speaker 1: yesterday and before. It's a little bit of cat and
Speaker 1: cat and mouse right now, because when we tried on
Speaker 1: on Friday, he was garage drinking. In his words, Um,
Speaker 1: maybe he's in the garage again, Greg, alright, just I
Speaker 1: think he's trying to dig us. Maybe we're in his
Speaker 1: u search for lady Westling that were in like his
Speaker 1: prospects looking good. Maybe that sort of change his style
Speaker 1: is his search and his garage. WHOA, I don't know. Maybe,
Speaker 1: well maybe it is. Well what about the idea of well,
Speaker 1: you're saying there's a chance he's cutting back on how
Speaker 1: come boo time? What do you think garage shrinking? Tells
Speaker 1: me there's no clock on the wall, so it could
Speaker 1: have started or ended at anytime. So we're thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: it's uh, it's just almost five o'clock. Where west is it?
Speaker 1: Could be truly in his head one thirty eight in
Speaker 1: the morning. He maybe he's been locked away for hours.
Speaker 1: What he's doing at the how his website First of all,
Speaker 1: they spell huw was three different ways on the home page.
Speaker 1: And then there is a link that says map to
Speaker 1: the Pooh, which is, you know, just the Google Maps helpful,
Speaker 1: but you know map to the Pooh it is. That's
Speaker 1: the nickname the Pooh. It is one of the long
Speaker 1: term goals of this podcast, in addition to of course
Speaker 1: having a show with us all together in London onto
Speaker 1: London's hashtag sunder postcards to Roger Goodell Park Avenue in
Speaker 1: New York. But another goal is to have a show
Speaker 1: at Hucka Poos on Tybee. I don't know how that
Speaker 1: would ever happen, but it's just a goal that's out there. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: we are shooting for the stars with the trajectory of
Speaker 1: the show. What about the Whaler? That that's our that's
Speaker 1: our groups Hucka Poos much more than Na del Rey.
Speaker 1: Is that the area Benett? Yeah, uh, that's a good place.
Speaker 1: We've hung out with Colleen there before. All right, So
Speaker 1: finally let's talk about the draft Colleen, you know, doing
Speaker 1: all those now hits, you're talking about every team, every
Speaker 1: covering every angle. So I assume that you would be
Speaker 1: a good fit for this game because you know what
Speaker 1: teams are lacking, what they what they have enough of
Speaker 1: and all that. So that's what this game is about,
Speaker 1: just the game without a name according to TV and UH,
Speaker 1: basically the it's it's a simple game or a simple exercise. Uh,
Speaker 1: you're gonna insert a team name, would be crazy not
Speaker 1: to draft a And then you insert a position or
Speaker 1: if you like, you want to take him a little deeper,
Speaker 1: get a little Buggy Brooks and throwing the actual player
Speaker 1: that you you're excited about on the college level. Um,
Speaker 1: and you explain why that team would be crazy, uh
Speaker 1: not to bring in a player at that position. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I will start and uh, as a Jets man,
Speaker 1: I will start with the Jets, and I will say
Speaker 1: the Jets would be crazy, quiet on your throne of these, sir,
Speaker 1: the Jets would be crazy not to draft a quarterback.
Speaker 1: And I will tell you why. There's a reason behind this.
Speaker 1: Uh this this team spent a lot of money. Okay,
Speaker 1: this offseason they brought in Durrell Reeves. They made these moves. Um,
Speaker 1: they think they're gonna be a lot better. I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna be competitive to I think they're gonna return
Speaker 1: to playoff contention this year. And what's gonna happen If
Speaker 1: you return to playoff contention? You win seven to ten
Speaker 1: games with your quarterback that you're not in love with.
Speaker 1: You kind of make it work, and then what do
Speaker 1: you get out of it? You get out of like
Speaker 1: an eighteenth round, eighteenth overall pick. You're and again you're
Speaker 1: not in the mix at the top of the draft.
Speaker 1: There at the top of the draft right now after
Speaker 1: awful season, they have a quarterback. If they like Mariota,
Speaker 1: they gotta do what it takes. And I know people like, oh,
Speaker 1: don't go crazy, get crazy and go get that quarterback
Speaker 1: with this roster that you you like a certain parts
Speaker 1: of it, and go crazy to go to town, get
Speaker 1: Mariota and go for it. This team hasn't had a
Speaker 1: quarterback to build around since Joe Nameth. It's time give
Speaker 1: it a shot. They'd be crazy enough to give it
Speaker 1: to get Mariota, Yes, but then you may have to
Speaker 1: almost maneuver up. It sounds like ten Abe's in play
Speaker 1: for that or willing to. Kind of my point, it's
Speaker 1: like a lot of I've heard and a lot of
Speaker 1: people that I respect that right about the Jets said
Speaker 1: the Jets are no way they're gonna do that. They're
Speaker 1: not gonna move up and compromise the draft class or
Speaker 1: a future draft class. And my opinion is, why not
Speaker 1: if you like the guy enough and you have a
Speaker 1: really big chip at number six overall, be aggressive. They'd
Speaker 1: be crazy not to. Yeah, I mean, even if the
Speaker 1: Titans aren't serious about it, Kenn wasn't hunt smart enough
Speaker 1: to make it seem like they are so they can
Speaker 1: get something more out of teams like the Jets. Would
Speaker 1: you want your sneaky team the Eagles to make a
Speaker 1: move for Mariota. I think they have to give up
Speaker 1: a lot more than the Jets would. Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: And they've already given up so much, and and he's
Speaker 1: already Chip Kelly's already gone and imploded the roster as
Speaker 1: it is. But the secondary, in my opinion, still needs
Speaker 1: a lot of work. There's a lot more things that
Speaker 1: they need to do before they need a quarterback. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that I believe in Sam Bradford. I've
Speaker 1: seen what Mark Sanchez can do. Um, he looked good
Speaker 1: in Chip Kelly system, but the more he played, the
Speaker 1: worst he got. So the jury is definitely still out
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. But there's a lot more things
Speaker 1: that they need. I mean, you look at safety and
Speaker 1: they have Malcolm Jenkins, but next to him they have
Speaker 1: Earl Wolf who no relation. I should like him just
Speaker 1: because of that last name. But they made some moves
Speaker 1: in that sound effect. Oh that was good. Great, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Byron Maxwell. They brought him in. I'm gonna keep going
Speaker 1: Walter Thurman. I mean, he's coming in off what an
Speaker 1: a c L So you don't really know that. Thank god.
Speaker 1: They cut the ties with Carry Williams and Bradley Fletcher.
Speaker 1: They had to, but I mean, this was one of
Speaker 1: the worst secondaries in the league. They have to address it,
Speaker 1: all right. Mcgagnan seems like a guy who would be
Speaker 1: aggressive and good do it well, So you're you're really
Speaker 1: saying Mariota because you don't want them to force it
Speaker 1: at the top of the second round, just to do it.
Speaker 1: If they can't get marioda God, it would be great
Speaker 1: because it's you know, some people in this building Bucky Brooks.
Speaker 1: I think in his latest mock has married going a fifty,
Speaker 1: so maybe, you know, maybe they don't have to do
Speaker 1: anything I just said at six and grab him. That
Speaker 1: would obviously be great. Usually fate doesn't smile kindly on
Speaker 1: the Jets, so I don't imagine they would get that lucky,
Speaker 1: but who knows. I think he fits what Chan Gailey
Speaker 1: has done in the past. He's a little more of
Speaker 1: a spread and short passing. Then again, that's also why
Speaker 1: Gino Smith's gonna have the Comeback Player of the Year
Speaker 1: award this year. I'm the only one Smith fan Wagon
Speaker 1: Sandwich and no, I'm not gonna I don't really believe
Speaker 1: in that. But I think I think Gina Smith will
Speaker 1: be good. I do, uh, we shall see. And by
Speaker 1: the way, if Gino Smith is good, the Jets are
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. And if you think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be good, I think he was good. Here's the That's
Speaker 1: the thing. If you watch just December, Geno Smith had
Speaker 1: a better month, played better than Teddy Bridgewater or Derek
Speaker 1: Carr or any of those guys. No one wants to
Speaker 1: give him any credit because name is Gino Smith. He
Speaker 1: played he played pretty well. You should have got in
Speaker 1: here earlier when you guys were doing the bath salts
Speaker 1: going on in it. From speaking of which I need
Speaker 1: to go to a meeting I want to take bath
Speaker 1: salts to before I go there. Ridiculous, I have to
Speaker 1: go to the corporate nonsense in the middle of a
Speaker 1: podcast synergy. I can't wait to hear the negative reaction
Speaker 1: to this little comment. I just know, I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: being quiet because I know that will not go unpunished. Well,
Speaker 1: I also know you know the podcast is in great
Speaker 1: hands today with Colleen. We got an actual off day
Speaker 1: Dan spitting fire. So you guys, alright, Greg, alright, by guys,
Speaker 1: all right, Greg, thank you for being professional. I agree
Speaker 1: with anything that upper management has decided or Greg or
Speaker 1: any of us. It seems they're they're accurate the way
Speaker 1: I look at it, And this is just me. There's
Speaker 1: a reason why they got those offices of so you
Speaker 1: basically do have us told who you're told? All right,
Speaker 1: So let's continue with the game. Now. That was mine.
Speaker 1: The Jets to be crazy if they do not draft
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotta. Colleen twitch By the way, I really liked
Speaker 1: um Charles Davis and his mock draft, he had Mariotta
Speaker 1: going to the Rams a number ten. We've seen Mariotta
Speaker 1: goes so many different places. But I like the Rams
Speaker 1: only because that would mean Nick Foles and Marcus Mariotta
Speaker 1: would be together, which would really I'm sure ruffle Chip
Speaker 1: Kelly's feathers. I think that's all I'm gonna go there,
Speaker 1: all right, So I'm gonna say the Chiefs would be
Speaker 1: crazy not to draft a wide receiver. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to say the stat that everybody knows and everybody wants
Speaker 1: to vomit every time they hear it. Well, Greg's not here.
Speaker 1: You could say, go ahead in case people didn't know,
Speaker 1: all right, in case you didn't hear a wide receiver
Speaker 1: didn't score a touchdown last season for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Greg actually, Greg actually, I think he said he was
Speaker 1: going to fire one of us if we put it
Speaker 1: in a post. Again. This is when Greg was in
Speaker 1: a bad mood one morning. I believe this is what
Speaker 1: we're doing to set me up. And I said that
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to throw that out there. And plus
Speaker 1: he doesn't have firing power over all, right, that's true,
Speaker 1: but yeah, go on, Yeah, So so that's obviously a
Speaker 1: major knee. Now, I'm not sure how much of that
Speaker 1: had to do with Alex Smith and how much had
Speaker 1: to do with the fact that they really didn't have
Speaker 1: a number one wide receiver there. Dwayne bow now gone.
Speaker 1: They got Jeremy Macklin. Who knows how much macklin stats
Speaker 1: were inflated because of Chip Kelly system, but he did
Speaker 1: play well. That was his first year as the feature
Speaker 1: number one wide receiver anywhere really, and he did well.
Speaker 1: He's back with Andy Reid now. But after Jeremy Macklin,
Speaker 1: then you have Jason Evan, another old older player, but
Speaker 1: he's also has been with Andy Reid before. Then you
Speaker 1: have guy It really falls off. After that, you have d'
Speaker 1: Anthony Thomas, who I keep calling d' anthony Hopkins for
Speaker 1: some reason, and are now segments that we keep having
Speaker 1: to stop it, but it right that time. Frankie Hammond Jr. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Junior Hemingway. I mean, these are guys called Frankie Hammond Junior,
Speaker 1: Freddie Prince Jr. No, that's never happened, but maybe it
Speaker 1: will now. So yeah, I think that that's definitely something
Speaker 1: that they have to address now. Andy has isn't known
Speaker 1: as a guy who likes to draft a wide receiver early,
Speaker 1: especially first round. I think he's only taken two wide
Speaker 1: receivers ever in the first round. But I think obviously
Speaker 1: with the need, maybe they'll make an exception. I mean, also,
Speaker 1: you're looking at last year they completely ignored that for
Speaker 1: the most part, and this year it's two of the
Speaker 1: better wide receiver draft classes. You may not get that
Speaker 1: for another five six years. So you want to be
Speaker 1: the team that says, no, we have Alex Smith at
Speaker 1: quarterback and we're not going to draft any wide receivers
Speaker 1: and continue to win with a nineteen thirties type offensive roster.
Speaker 1: Good luck to that. I don't know. I mean, it
Speaker 1: seems like they're almost they're they're so they're so hell
Speaker 1: bent on not bringing in new wide receiving talent. They
Speaker 1: did this last year and they then later said, you know,
Speaker 1: we might have made we might have misjudged that. Like
Speaker 1: every Chiefs fan was looking at that roster saying, what's happening?
Speaker 1: The Chiefs feel like one of those teams to me,
Speaker 1: And I bet if you sat down and like went
Speaker 1: through all thirty two you could come up with eight.
Speaker 1: To you know six to eight teams to be up
Speaker 1: to ten that are kind of in NFL purgatory right now,
Speaker 1: where it's hard to get excited about him. They're not
Speaker 1: going to be awful, probably, but they're not going to
Speaker 1: be a Super Bowl contender. They just kind of exist,
Speaker 1: and I guess that's one of the hardest things for
Speaker 1: a fan to get excited about. But to Colleen's point,
Speaker 1: you bring in another good wide receiver draft they're saying
Speaker 1: bringing a stud wide receiver. You put him next to Macklin.
Speaker 1: Alex Smith can make some play, you can help. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're their offensive line needs help too, But that's another
Speaker 1: that's a whole another story. Yes, the Quiet Storm your turn.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look at two teams with with quarterbacks getting
Speaker 1: very old, and that is the Chargers with Philip Rivers
Speaker 1: and the Saints with Drew Brees. In both cases, you're
Speaker 1: not gonna get in one of the number two and
Speaker 1: I don't think that matters. I don't think these number
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks are the same. They wouldn't be judged that
Speaker 1: way another year's You've got to keep drafting quarterbacks at
Speaker 1: this point and develop people because Philip Rivers could flat
Speaker 1: out retire after this season. If he's even on the
Speaker 1: Chargers of the season, which he was, you think that
Speaker 1: could happen. Well, and listen, weird draft day, weird stuff
Speaker 1: can lead up leading to the draft. Weird things can happen.
Speaker 1: It is possible that he's not on the roster, but
Speaker 1: he made. It's very possibly he's not on a two
Speaker 1: seasons from now, and then you've got true brees who
Speaker 1: let's not act like he's twenty eight years old and
Speaker 1: has five years left. You got one of the best
Speaker 1: quarterback guru types and Sean Payton. Draft guys, groom m.
Speaker 1: Don't do it to look, don't get stuck with someone.
Speaker 1: Don't get stuck where you have to draft someone next year.
Speaker 1: Just keep getting guys. So what are you saying draft
Speaker 1: quarterbacks like second, I find the Chargers if you if
Speaker 1: you want to go, get like Bryce Petty or one
Speaker 1: of these guys. It's the next tier. Go do it
Speaker 1: higher than someone. Think the same way the Patriots did
Speaker 1: with Grappolo last year. Go out and do it before
Speaker 1: people expect, and get someone of note, not some seventh
Speaker 1: round guy who's working at Shop right three years from now.
Speaker 1: I worked at Shop right that was my first job.
Speaker 1: And uh, I was let go for money, disappearing from
Speaker 1: the till, but it wasn't anything in a minute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I I never stole a dime from shop. Right, were
Speaker 1: you a bagger or did you? I was working, I
Speaker 1: was working the cash year. I was, uh, you know
Speaker 1: a money guy, Okay, yeah, and then you check out
Speaker 1: guy that move. But I just again, as I said
Speaker 1: on the show many times before, I'm very bad at math.
Speaker 1: So I probably every once in while I was giving
Speaker 1: away the wrong change. I got banged on at two
Speaker 1: times and one day I came into work and punched
Speaker 1: the clock in it didn't take my info. They're like,
Speaker 1: now we'll let you go. I understand that because I'm
Speaker 1: the same way. And I worked at a water ice place,
Speaker 1: and water ice it's like Italian ice, but it's water ice,
Speaker 1: and you know people also call it water ice, but
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't go that way. Um yeah, but
Speaker 1: I'm very bad at math, and when you'd have to
Speaker 1: do the change part, I would start sweating like it
Speaker 1: was awful. Doesn't it tell you? Like I worked, I
Speaker 1: worked at this store that had an older cash register
Speaker 1: out of like, we're not gonna do anything new, And
Speaker 1: I had to count in my head the change that
Speaker 1: wasn't but didn't yours. By the time you're working these jobs,
Speaker 1: haven't I still had one of the older ones. You
Speaker 1: have to realize not only are we not good at math,
Speaker 1: most people are not good at math. Yes on the
Speaker 1: spot with like an angry person staring at you. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go around the horn one more time here.
Speaker 1: So you brought up Drew Brees, Mark and UM, you
Speaker 1: know what, They're not gonna trade Drew Brees. And here's
Speaker 1: my thing on that. If you're not going to trade them,
Speaker 1: if you're not going to make a blockbuster deal and
Speaker 1: move him and try to get a ton of draft
Speaker 1: picks back, which we've talked about on the show, that
Speaker 1: might not be the worst idea for a team whose
Speaker 1: super Bowl window might have closed. Well, the Saints then
Speaker 1: would be crazy not to draft a playmaker at wide
Speaker 1: receiver or a tight end. Uh too. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: keep Drew Brees and the age thirty six season, what
Speaker 1: does he have two years left or whatever? Maybe being
Speaker 1: a top quarterback, give him the talent and you you know,
Speaker 1: you send Kenny Stills out of town Send Jimmy Graham
Speaker 1: out of town. You beef up your your running attacks,
Speaker 1: so that's gonna be more of a focus of the offense.
Speaker 1: But you still have Drew Brees and you're still paying
Speaker 1: them godlike amounts of money, uh to be your star
Speaker 1: player in the face of your franchise. They'd be crazy
Speaker 1: not to address their maker dearth uh in their passing offense.
Speaker 1: And I'm sticking to it. Yeah, I think Brandon Cooks
Speaker 1: will have a huge role next year. And you can
Speaker 1: see that you're very set on this. But yeah, they
Speaker 1: got Colston to cross from. There's Nicktoon, guys that just
Speaker 1: like Brandon Cooks. I mean we talked a lot about
Speaker 1: him coming into the last year. That's a nice young
Speaker 1: player and Nicktoon has done some things. I mean, Colston
Speaker 1: is Colston, but they it's clear they need somebody. But
Speaker 1: Benjamin Watson is the top of their death charted tight
Speaker 1: end right now. They need maybe an outside speeder speedser
Speaker 1: I think they got worked a little bit more this year,
Speaker 1: but that's what I mean. They're good. That's a big
Speaker 1: part of their offense this year. It's clear. West rode
Speaker 1: a great piece about that um last month that they're
Speaker 1: clearly gearing up to be a more balanced team. But
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you gotta pass the ball,
Speaker 1: and you have one of the best passers of his generation.
Speaker 1: Give him the weapons too. I know their defense needs
Speaker 1: to work as well. But to me, when you're paying
Speaker 1: Drew Brees that much money, you got to give him.
Speaker 1: Stuff about a little West Welker action in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: Fool bring him in for a low level allery. I
Speaker 1: don't trust West. I mean, I trust him on my
Speaker 1: fake team, but I wouldn't if I was paying Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: if I was paying my quarterback like thirty seven million dollars, saying,
Speaker 1: pay him like thirty eight dollars a week. And by
Speaker 1: the way, Drew Brees, did we talked about I think
Speaker 1: we talked about this. I had no idea Jimmy Graham
Speaker 1: would be traded that guy should go out to politics,
Speaker 1: because to say that with a straight face, you're saying,
Speaker 1: because the money that he's being paid, gotta get rid
Speaker 1: of these other hy he's plugged in. I'm saying he's
Speaker 1: plugged into the organism. I wanted to believe him too.
Speaker 1: I wanted to be like, oh my gosh, you're blindsided
Speaker 1: by this Tetoto wearing the Graham jersey. The guy is
Speaker 1: basically essentially part of the front office as far as
Speaker 1: I'm concerned, he's gonna pretend like they never ran by
Speaker 1: Jimmy Gray, Jimmy Graham trade by him. Now, I'm not
Speaker 1: believing you, Bubba Bubba Clinton. Alright, that's mine, Colleen, all Right,
Speaker 1: the Giants. I'm going to stick in the NFC East
Speaker 1: for now. The Giants would be crazy not to draft
Speaker 1: a safety, so they bust Entrell role. He's now with
Speaker 1: the Bears. When you look at their projected starting roster
Speaker 1: right now, they don't even have anybody listed at free safety.
Speaker 1: There's nobody there. And then you look at who else
Speaker 1: is there, Cooper Taylor and that Burr Hay. Oh well,
Speaker 1: ber Hey checks out very well on film. He was
Speaker 1: my camp counselor. And so this is a dire situation.
Speaker 1: They were really bad and run support it. It's just
Speaker 1: that is an area that they really need to address,
Speaker 1: and that should be I mean, they need to safeties,
Speaker 1: not just one that should be their top priority. I
Speaker 1: like that. I think yeah, I think they definitely they
Speaker 1: had they brought that Spags as their defensive coordinator. I
Speaker 1: think that could give him a shot in the arm.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they need the tools. They're on defense too.
Speaker 1: I like the Giants, by the way, as a team
Speaker 1: as a fan, just I like them as a under
Speaker 1: the ray r NFC each champion this year. Really, Yes,
Speaker 1: Is this all because of Odell Beckham? No, see, quite
Speaker 1: the opposite, because I'm the one that's ever like everybody
Speaker 1: pump the brakes a little bit. Don't know Adell Beckham,
Speaker 1: but I don't know the way the NDFCY East is.
Speaker 1: I think this will be a Giant's here. Things could change,
Speaker 1: but just throwing it out there, but they gotta make
Speaker 1: smart moves. That would be a smart move built rebuilding
Speaker 1: that back end. All right, well let's go. Let's tell
Speaker 1: you have nothing else to say about the Giants. I
Speaker 1: loved it. That was great. I agree, And I think
Speaker 1: if you're if you're at this point in the it's
Speaker 1: April and you don't have even a known quantity on
Speaker 1: the roster you have, you have to draft. Collie's point
Speaker 1: was so solid nothing else needs to be. Well, sometimes
Speaker 1: that happens. Everyone in the room just says, nailed it.
Speaker 1: I'm not lying. Run Thanks all right, your tar Michael
Speaker 1: last one Baltimore Ravens. You know, the owner comes out
Speaker 1: and says, not worried about wide receiver. We don't need
Speaker 1: a draft. One doesn't matter. Sorry, across from Steve Smith,
Speaker 1: who is aging. By the way, Uh you have margin,
Speaker 1: Well you have Marlon Brown, that's your starter, and then
Speaker 1: you have Michael Companero and Kamar Aiken. And the owner says,
Speaker 1: no love our young guys. Well that's fine, but like
Speaker 1: we're looking at a group that if Joe Flacco ever
Speaker 1: went down, you know who your quarterback is. That's shop
Speaker 1: and this team is going three and thirteen, but you
Speaker 1: better go get a wide receiver. Joe Flacco indestructible though
Speaker 1: never missed it down, so I guess that will never happen.
Speaker 1: But if it does, you are sitting on a time bomb.
Speaker 1: That's that's rough. Those receivers they need and you know
Speaker 1: they lost. They don't even know what's happening at tight ends.
Speaker 1: So they're both needs. But you can't just not throw
Speaker 1: the ball in Baltimore. You've got you've got to figure
Speaker 1: it out, So you gotta get some wide receivers. I
Speaker 1: like that TDS distracting me. I'm sorry, probably again because
Speaker 1: Colleen's here. I think white, I'm glass stick even mildly
Speaker 1: professional at some point, do you have any enda right now?
Speaker 1: Special guess it's like, oh, it don't make me work,
Speaker 1: let's gets I think this is it right here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just makes me feel better. Let's way. Um yeah,
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens are And by the way, the
Speaker 1: Ravens are going to be going deep in the playoffs
Speaker 1: again as well. Well, you've made two predictions and one
Speaker 1: of them is going to go massively off track, I
Speaker 1: promise you. All right, So those are are our draft
Speaker 1: you know, demands. Really, there weren't even suggestions there. Basically,
Speaker 1: if you don't do this, you're awful and we're done
Speaker 1: with you. We're done with you as an organization. Um.
Speaker 1: And that is uh, that is it for the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL podcast. Greg. I hope everything's going well in
Speaker 1: that meeting. I hope what he said before he went
Speaker 1: to the meeting, which is clearly out of frustration. Any
Speaker 1: shadowy league figure that was listening to Greg, uh there,
Speaker 1: do not you know, don't hold it against them who
Speaker 1: you know, they got called into a meeting in the
Speaker 1: middle of podcas is tough. Yeah. I mean, you could
Speaker 1: hold it against him, but you have to look at
Speaker 1: everything else he's done too. It's this was a bad
Speaker 1: moment for Greg and management sees that, but also hold
Speaker 1: into account the good things he's done. He's doing a
Speaker 1: lot and you can see he's really putting in the
Speaker 1: effort in a lot of different places. I'd see. It's
Speaker 1: all right to use this if your management say this
Speaker 1: was a bad moment for Greg, and we can we
Speaker 1: can put that in the file too. Alright. So we
Speaker 1: will be back on Thursday, our second and final show
Speaker 1: of the week. It will be Zach Goldman in the
Speaker 1: director chair, much to TV's chagrin, and Zach will put
Speaker 1: us through a gauntlet of challenges from I understand. So
Speaker 1: make sure you listen to that show. Colleen. It was
Speaker 1: so great having you here. Thanks. We will have you
Speaker 1: back on again if you'll have us, all right, cool deal, Alright,
Speaker 1: this is it. Dan Hads is signing off for Quiet, Storm,
Speaker 1: The Wolf Woman and TV Behind the Glass.