Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast is a solid third round
Speaker 1: draft pick. Welcome back to another edition of The Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I
Speaker 1: am joined by our room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling and Greg ros It's all what's up boys? Hey? Dan?
Speaker 1: All right back, I'm back. Thank you for holding it
Speaker 1: down while I I recovered in my abode. Are you Yeah?
Speaker 1: I am. People were worried. I'm a lot better, um,
Speaker 1: but it was it was a a little touch and go there.
Speaker 1: And I listened to the show. I always listen. I
Speaker 1: loved it. I think you guys did a great job. Minus.
Speaker 1: Well that's higher than the last show we did. You said,
Speaker 1: you said C plus, But on that one, I thought
Speaker 1: it was really good. It was really good. Now a
Speaker 1: goal of hours because we've greg we talked about this
Speaker 1: on text. We've been you know, we've been having our
Speaker 1: hour shows. There's a lot to cover. We're gonna try
Speaker 1: to knock it down, get back into our zone, our
Speaker 1: forty five minutes zone in the show. But that doesn't mean, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: that it's not gonna be action packed, right Mark, Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: hold on, I mean, did you notice us trying to
Speaker 1: stick up for you when TD was just taken shot
Speaker 1: after shot at you. Well, yeah, I didn't notice that,
Speaker 1: and uh, I would be going back at t D.
Speaker 1: We got once again gold standard Thursdays behind the glass.
Speaker 1: I gotta love those. Yeah. I apparently I was unaware
Speaker 1: of the schism between t D and I, and I
Speaker 1: will speak with him privately about it. Apparently I give
Speaker 1: him too much, too much grief. But then you notice
Speaker 1: after he said that, um, Greg botched the news queue,
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden TD saw, oh, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: you're not giving enough credit. Your best move was just
Speaker 1: to lead Greg to his thing as as the filling host,
Speaker 1: and suddenly he wanted Dan back. I thought Greg did
Speaker 1: a fun job, though Mark always playing both sides of
Speaker 1: the thing. Everyone did great. By the way, Mark, like
Speaker 1: TD was to Mark, I'm glad that you're in some
Speaker 1: good spirits. This, of course is your least that Dan
Speaker 1: has a little plan uh for the show. And I
Speaker 1: just look over at it and in parentheses it says
Speaker 1: Greg vulner Ball you know it's really good about that too.
Speaker 1: Right before, right before TV started the show, I saw
Speaker 1: that I wrote that I was like trying to Jock
Speaker 1: my memory what this was the reference to. I think
Speaker 1: we just covered it. I don't know, but I don't
Speaker 1: think it's come up yet. If I remember what this
Speaker 1: is for, then well, how is it that that had
Speaker 1: them been it? Right? It's not, it's not. But anyway, Mark,
Speaker 1: this is the toughest day of the year for you
Speaker 1: as a man who who likes silence in the newsroom.
Speaker 1: It's the first day of March madness, and uh it
Speaker 1: makes you sad. I know, well, I mean, I I
Speaker 1: thought I handled it. Did you hear one complaint for
Speaker 1: me today? No? I just I feel like you're just
Speaker 1: kind of and it's other people love it, and I
Speaker 1: think it's a celebration in the newsroom that I was
Speaker 1: not a part of. It's reached the point where it's
Speaker 1: like a Browns game on a Sunday, where people know
Speaker 1: that you have certain feelings about it and then they
Speaker 1: want to talk to you. And I feel like it's
Speaker 1: reached the point where you don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: So the quiet storm is in action. By the way,
Speaker 1: I grew up watching this every year and loving it.
Speaker 1: I just I have two kids. I have to parcel
Speaker 1: out my time. N C. A. B. Ball does not
Speaker 1: get into my life at this point. It's called B ball.
Speaker 1: Well that's what I keep seeing. Oh I'm I'm with
Speaker 1: you on this one. Uh, it's great. It's one of
Speaker 1: the best things about working in sports that you have
Speaker 1: these TVs on your desk and you get to watch
Speaker 1: and also be getting paid for it. I am no issues,
Speaker 1: but I'm not a big basketball fan. Northeastern went down today,
Speaker 1: but they put up a good battle gold Standard. I
Speaker 1: really enjoyed it. Yeah. So anyway, so we got a
Speaker 1: really big show today. By the way, what when West's
Speaker 1: toaster need to get this out? It's happening a week
Speaker 1: from today next Thursday. Um, I would think it's possible
Speaker 1: the gold Standard will be behind the glass for it,
Speaker 1: since we have these gold Standard Thursdays. So um, you know,
Speaker 1: I would say, if you want to be um, you know,
Speaker 1: in the mix to potentially be on the show, this
Speaker 1: is your last chance. Then you got probably got the
Speaker 1: next few days is to reach out to APT producer TD,
Speaker 1: explain why you want to be on the show. Get
Speaker 1: witty about it, because I'm sure there are a lot
Speaker 1: of people now that want in. But that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you can't jump start so next Thursday, West the toaster.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's time for you to go back to
Speaker 1: work and reclaim your your invincibility, well putting it back
Speaker 1: on the line. Uh, you know, I don't need to
Speaker 1: take any pot shots from former champion Greg Resent all
Speaker 1: over this. Look, you haven't won. When was the last
Speaker 1: time he won in one of these toasters? Your oh
Speaker 1: and one over the last seven months or something was
Speaker 1: because when you had the title belt, you would not
Speaker 1: accept your top challenger. This is similar to when Tyson
Speaker 1: went to jail and he just went away for a while.
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. Nothing happened with West that would
Speaker 1: have led to him being incarcerated. But you've been gone
Speaker 1: gone a while, and people are now wondering, is he
Speaker 1: gonna be the same guy after this period of an
Speaker 1: activity as that. It's fair to ask it. I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm better now, sure, but so does Trent Richardson.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. I'm really excited. All right, gold standard,
Speaker 1: Why don't we do some news, Sarah, let's do it? Okay? Okay,
Speaker 1: by the way, not be minus is like a B
Speaker 1: B hard B. That's good. That's like I loved it.
Speaker 1: And Mark I noticed you must have really liked it,
Speaker 1: because you had. You went all over social media on it.
Speaker 1: You went on your Facebook, you went on your Twitter page,
Speaker 1: you got it out there. I took it as a
Speaker 1: shot against me. You fighting waves is unbelievable to me.
Speaker 1: It's just simply whenever whenever you see me getting active anywhere,
Speaker 1: I've had an hour of free time. I took it
Speaker 1: as a perceived slide A thousand times I put our
Speaker 1: group for a cross show on the Also on these
Speaker 1: social media platforms, you say it wasn't a shot under
Speaker 1: the radar at me. Oh my gosh, yes, or no,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. It's confusing to all of us to hear that. Listen,
Speaker 1: this is what my brain damaged. No I I I
Speaker 1: understand that now. But you did come in today to
Speaker 1: the uh Dan wasn't there at the time, but you
Speaker 1: did come in and say you listen to the show,
Speaker 1: which is rare for you, and that you really like.
Speaker 1: I listened to them. I listened to quite a few
Speaker 1: of them. That's another myth that I I've never listened
Speaker 1: to a show. I just don't find the need to
Speaker 1: because I was just on it. Yes, got you all right,
Speaker 1: here we go, let's move forward as a group together
Speaker 1: as one. We're one, but we're not the same. The
Speaker 1: Vikings tell Adrian Peterson they will not cut him. Let's
Speaker 1: start right there, the Minnesota Vikings running back, Greg, you
Speaker 1: wrote a good think piece on Peterson. I read it.
Speaker 1: I actually did read it, and I really liked it.
Speaker 1: It was it was something we wrote on the cpage
Speaker 1: c P, which is the main page on our NFL
Speaker 1: dot com home site. A lot of eyeballs on it.
Speaker 1: You said, it makes sense that he's gonna end up
Speaker 1: in Minnesota. Everything pointed that way. Now that now we're
Speaker 1: hearing that the Vikings will not cut him, according to
Speaker 1: NFL Media inside of Ian Rappaport, who heard this from
Speaker 1: Peterson's agent Ben Dagra Dogra, Uh so you even wrote it,
Speaker 1: You wrote it, Greg, not a surprise. Well, that wasn't
Speaker 1: a surprise. And one of my points for making a
Speaker 1: case why Peterson will go back to the Vikings was
Speaker 1: releasing him is not an option. So now we know
Speaker 1: that that's confirmed. The next step, if Peterson really wanted
Speaker 1: to get out, would be to ask for a trade
Speaker 1: or asked to be released. But the Vikings are making
Speaker 1: it clear they're ready to pay him twelve point seven
Speaker 1: five million dollars. I don't think there's any team out
Speaker 1: there that's going to be willing to pay him that
Speaker 1: much money, So he knows the most money's in Minnesota.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any teams out there that
Speaker 1: want to give up a great pick for him. Maybe Arizona.
Speaker 1: That's about it. He's talking to the Vikings. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be back with Minnesota. I don't think so. I still
Speaker 1: think he's going somewhere else, And it looks like Arizona
Speaker 1: from multiple national reporters. It looks like the magic number
Speaker 1: is twenty five million guaranteed over three years, So it
Speaker 1: would take a team willing to give him that on
Speaker 1: a rewritten contract. And Charles Robinson of Yahoo says, if
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson does go on the block, the Cardinals will
Speaker 1: offer a high draft pick, right, but a high draft
Speaker 1: pick is a second round pick, so they're gonna be
Speaker 1: ready to give up a second round pick at least
Speaker 1: and twenty five million guaranteed. I still don't know if
Speaker 1: the Vikings will say yes, no, we don't know that.
Speaker 1: And for all this, you know there's a sense among
Speaker 1: NFL media insiders all of that ilk that when you
Speaker 1: include a high draft pick and a high salary, trades
Speaker 1: can't happen. That was the reason why Sam Bradford trade
Speaker 1: was not supposed to happen. That's a good point, but
Speaker 1: these teams get desperate, especially with Adrian Peterson, where he's
Speaker 1: the best running back of his generation, and he's the
Speaker 1: kind of talent who will get the fan base excited,
Speaker 1: get ownership excited, get the GM and coach excited. I
Speaker 1: could see that happening, and you you're you have Carson
Speaker 1: Palmer for what one or two more years? Right, and
Speaker 1: so not that there's a window that closes when he
Speaker 1: leaves that they find someone else. But if they don't,
Speaker 1: you're sitting pretty in a in an NFC West that
Speaker 1: is strong. But the Niners have fallen off, Cliff, why
Speaker 1: not go for I thought that I agree with all that,
Speaker 1: but I thought the money was a problem for Arizona
Speaker 1: was reportedly if he restructure, I don't think they would
Speaker 1: take it as it is now right, and maybe he'd
Speaker 1: be willing to take a little less money to get
Speaker 1: out of Minnesota. Well he's you know, reports are still
Speaker 1: trickling out that no matter what happened with him meeting UH,
Speaker 1: the GM and the coach at his house, that he's
Speaker 1: not on he's not happy there and doesn't want to
Speaker 1: play for the Well, just talking though, says a lot.
Speaker 1: And just the fact that he hasn't asked to be released,
Speaker 1: he hasn't asked to be traded. That the clock keeps
Speaker 1: sticking and every day that goes by, he's more likely
Speaker 1: to stay because Minnesota wants him. They want to win.
Speaker 1: They're moving into a stadium next year. They'd love to
Speaker 1: do it with the best player and franchise history. I
Speaker 1: think they've gotten over whatever happened off the field. They
Speaker 1: want to win, and they own his rights. And so
Speaker 1: unless he really wants to be a guy that holds
Speaker 1: out all off season, I don't think he's going anywhere
Speaker 1: moving forward. The Cleveland Browns have added another wide receiver
Speaker 1: to their group of as Duyne Bow, the former chief
Speaker 1: swide out who once upon a time led the NFL
Speaker 1: with fifteen touchdown catches back in two thousand and ten.
Speaker 1: Uh he had been in a state of regression for
Speaker 1: years with the Chiefs, didn't even have a touch on
Speaker 1: this past year. However, Uh he seems to be an
Speaker 1: upgrade for a group that needs it, Mark, after Josh
Speaker 1: Gordon's suspension. So now you have a Dwayne Bow Brian
Speaker 1: Heartline wide receiver set up on the outside. Your thoughts, Mark, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he one of the problems with
Speaker 1: Bow after Matt Castle fell off a cliff was he's
Speaker 1: never really had strong quarterback play or a strong you
Speaker 1: know quarterback. They can throw the ball and make the
Speaker 1: use of his gifts, which are depleted at this point,
Speaker 1: and that doesn't get any better in Cleveland. So it's
Speaker 1: hard to get overly excited about it. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think it's better than what they would have had to
Speaker 1: put out there, which would be Travis Benjamin. But Cleveland
Speaker 1: has to make drafting a wide receiver and a difference,
Speaker 1: making one a priority that if they got if they
Speaker 1: hit on a rookie wide receiver, and then you look
Speaker 1: at the other guys they added, they've improved that group.
Speaker 1: But as it stands, Uh, not overly excited about Cleveland's
Speaker 1: white outs. Bow and Heartline. Mind for two touchdowns last
Speaker 1: year on sixty targets well throwing Hawk throwing Hawkins, and
Speaker 1: it's four for three wide receivers. So and Taylor, Taylor Gabriel.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's not going to be among the
Speaker 1: best wide receiver corps in the NFL. Well, that is fair,
Speaker 1: that's an understate. West suddenly is soft pedaling Brown. I mean,
Speaker 1: give you a break. If these guys came out of
Speaker 1: college right now, they the Browns would have just signed
Speaker 1: the first two starting wide receivers in the league with
Speaker 1: a four ninety. I mean, that is a slow group.
Speaker 1: And and that's that always worries me. Teams that are
Speaker 1: just slow. And you sounds obvious. Well, and you removed
Speaker 1: Jordan Cameron from the mix, so there you know. They
Speaker 1: don't have a tight end. Who's their tight end? Not
Speaker 1: a single person? What is the Browns numb? Now that
Speaker 1: we're past free agency for the most part. And and
Speaker 1: Greg you tweeted that you think you thought this Dwayne Boston,
Speaker 1: it kind of ended free agency. It's it's over for
Speaker 1: you know, any type of mid to high A little
Speaker 1: bit of a joke, but yeah, it's it was hilarious
Speaker 1: but also factual. I thought, Mark, in your opinion, the
Speaker 1: Browns what should be their number one Draft day target?
Speaker 1: You gotta go. They have a number twelve and a
Speaker 1: number nineteen, I go wide receiver. There's there. You know,
Speaker 1: we don't know that much about these drafts BB guys,
Speaker 1: but there's three of them. If one of them slips
Speaker 1: to twelve, you go get him, and then you go
Speaker 1: defensive tackle with the second one maybe offensive line. I
Speaker 1: gotta go rewatch Bow maybe a little bit. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if he's at totally at the end of the
Speaker 1: line or what. Because he could be a good signing.
Speaker 1: I don't think Heartline was a good signing for the
Speaker 1: money whatever. He was fine, but bo Is, you can't
Speaker 1: not get a worthy starting wide receiver. He was the
Speaker 1: best guy, or at least the most reliable guy out there.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to get Kenny Stills for a
Speaker 1: third round pick. I'm not saying for a third round pick,
Speaker 1: but they have to give up for him. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is an underwhelming sign bet. I don't know if
Speaker 1: we have the numbers for Bow yet, but we do
Speaker 1: know that it couldn't have been a huge deal at
Speaker 1: this stage of the game. So I like the signing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I like this. I like the Browns. I
Speaker 1: think about a good week after it was a little
Speaker 1: shake you that first week, the second week I think
Speaker 1: has been we'll find out if it's good, alright. I
Speaker 1: feel like Dwayne bow has been moving like a tight
Speaker 1: end for two years and that's not good for a
Speaker 1: number one mode receiver. Maybe he can be their tight
Speaker 1: end again they don't have one alright. Moving forward, another
Speaker 1: team that's been very active but all through the period,
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. It looks like, in fact it is
Speaker 1: Charles Clay will be their new tight end. The Miami
Speaker 1: Dolins will not match. The Bills is five year, thirty
Speaker 1: eight million dollar offer sheet for the tight end, according
Speaker 1: to rap Sheet that according to a team source. Uh
Speaker 1: this comes after the Dolphins had signed Jordan Cameron, as
Speaker 1: we just spoke of last week. I guess that made
Speaker 1: Clay on some level expendable, and the Bills built, as
Speaker 1: we heard, we're hearing for days, they built an offer
Speaker 1: that frontload of a contract that even if the Dolins
Speaker 1: wanted Clay, it was gone. So in my opinion, when
Speaker 1: the moment they put that transition tag on Clay, it
Speaker 1: didn't seem like they need They necessarily were going to
Speaker 1: be destroyed if Clay was out the door. The Dolphins,
Speaker 1: right it was. It was a strange move. That transition
Speaker 1: to made even stranger by the signing of Jordan Cameron.
Speaker 1: At that point, they must have just figured Clay is gone.
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Cameron and roll the dice for his
Speaker 1: contract than the contract the Bills gave Clay. Clay's one
Speaker 1: of the most overpaid players in the NFL right now.
Speaker 1: It's a crazy deal. I mean, he's gonna make more
Speaker 1: than Jimmy Graham and Gronk the next two years a
Speaker 1: bit more if he stays there five years. The last
Speaker 1: three years won't be bad. So they're counting on him
Speaker 1: having a good NFL career and not getting hurt a
Speaker 1: guy who was injured for most of last year. Mhm, Dan,
Speaker 1: what about you? You look at the Bills and the Jets,
Speaker 1: both very active in different ways. Which team got closer
Speaker 1: to the Patriots? I think they're both, like you know,
Speaker 1: probably eight to nine win teams, and maybe if a
Speaker 1: couple of things go right, either of them can sneak
Speaker 1: to tent. I would need the Patriots to come down.
Speaker 1: Let's not pretend they're starting off at the same point.
Speaker 1: The Bills had a great defense, The Jets had Rex
Speaker 1: Ryan as their coach and their defense was terrible and
Speaker 1: they were pretty bade. The Jets rebuilt the spot that
Speaker 1: made their defense bad. The defense is gonna be I
Speaker 1: I'll put a sandwich on it with you. By the way,
Speaker 1: that Jets will have a top ten defense this year.
Speaker 1: If you want to take me on that points per
Speaker 1: game or yard and I don't really do you whatever
Speaker 1: you want to use as the I don't know if
Speaker 1: I want to do that. I thought you were gonna
Speaker 1: go Jets versus Bills that I would take. I would
Speaker 1: take the Bills over. It's pretty pathetic that Ryan Fitzpatrick's
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in this whole group between the two teams,
Speaker 1: and Dino Smith has the highest upside. Gino Smith is
Speaker 1: gonna be getting all the reps and O t as
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick is coming off a broken leg. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think Gina Smith is the starter there. But we
Speaker 1: have an offseason to talk about. By the way, the Bills,
Speaker 1: the Bills only barely listen to most of that the bill.
Speaker 1: By the way, the Bills a lot of work, obviously
Speaker 1: they did. Now let's take a look at this. They
Speaker 1: traded for Lashawn McCoy obviously, and then gave him that
Speaker 1: huge contract Castle, they got Charles Clay, Jerome Felton, big
Speaker 1: time fullback signing, Percy Harvin, Greg's boy boy Tyrod Taylor
Speaker 1: re signed Jerry Hughes, uh Gyris wind Gyris Ween Marcus easily.
Speaker 1: So I mean they've been active. Let's see if it
Speaker 1: makes a difference. Brendon Spike Slow isn't a job. He's not.
Speaker 1: He was on NFL Network this week. I had the Bills,
Speaker 1: by the way as my winner of free agency. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be a post going up on Friday on the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL page wh each chose that was written
Speaker 1: before the Bow signing. Big went on all right, Moving
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars, speaking of um slights perceived slights. I
Speaker 1: heard your little Bernard Pierce dig on me on yesterday's show, Greg.
Speaker 1: Once upon a time I had Bernard Pierce like the
Speaker 1: middle of the pack as a guy on the rise
Speaker 1: after a great playoff run with the Ravens. He kind
Speaker 1: of went downhill after that. Then he gets a d
Speaker 1: u I cut by the Ravens picked up quickly the
Speaker 1: Jaguars have claimed the running back. He's now on the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: A couple of days after that du I arrest. The
Speaker 1: best part of this to me is that he sent
Speaker 1: out a tweets God works in mysterious ways with a
Speaker 1: prey emoji, So God gave Bernard Pierce a d U.
Speaker 1: I I think alcohol works in mysterious ways. Also, I
Speaker 1: think he was praying about going to Jacksonville after being
Speaker 1: part of being part of the Ravens organization. Who would
Speaker 1: want to stay with the Ravens to go to the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: I agree, this guy's crazy. I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: none of us can really make heads their tails of this. Uh.
Speaker 1: I just I'm sorry that Mark's boy Toby Gerhart keeps
Speaker 1: falling further and further. Well, I listen, he's not my
Speaker 1: boy at this point. But I don't think that Bernard
Speaker 1: Pierce is a huge threat to anyone in that running
Speaker 1: back room. Bernard pierced the last two seasons is averaging
Speaker 1: what three point to seven yards per carry. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's been an absolute disappointment since that's Super Bowl. He
Speaker 1: just whipped that at the top of your head because
Speaker 1: I just wrote the post about thirty minutes. It's pretty good.
Speaker 1: It's called recall Baby. This is a kind of flyer
Speaker 1: teams like the Jaguars should take. They wanted a running
Speaker 1: back and right agency they didn't get one. Bernard has
Speaker 1: one year of good film as a power back, then
Speaker 1: he got injured and never responded after he got injured.
Speaker 1: He I remember he buckled his knee in a preseason
Speaker 1: game and was never the same an. I liked Dennard
Speaker 1: Robinson too as not as guy. I kind of like
Speaker 1: Storm Johnson when they gave it the ball to him
Speaker 1: too well. Gus Bradley gushed over Robinson at the Combine
Speaker 1: and Heat when they asked about Gearhart not so much.
Speaker 1: Is Toby potentially a guy that could be a surprise release,
Speaker 1: could be rap Sheet has said that they planned to
Speaker 1: move him into an h back role to play some
Speaker 1: tight end and some lead blocker in addition to running back.
Speaker 1: But getting paid a lot to do that. Well, maybe
Speaker 1: not too this million or so, and that's what's happening.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I said it, Yeah, light news
Speaker 1: day a nice change of pace after a bunch of
Speaker 1: shows where we had a ton of news. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I even did, like a full rundown of
Speaker 1: the news of the show that I did. I let's
Speaker 1: tell him now, all right, well, we just did the news,
Speaker 1: so that was that. We're also going to play a game,
Speaker 1: one of our favorite games. It is called What's More Likely?
Speaker 1: And then after that we're gonna hit the mail bag,
Speaker 1: because there's going to be a around the NFL mail
Speaker 1: Bag on NFL dot com Friday morning. It goes up.
Speaker 1: But you guys said so many great questions, and a
Speaker 1: lot of them, frankly, more than half end up being
Speaker 1: related to the podcast, which is fine. I like it
Speaker 1: because then I get to sift through all those and
Speaker 1: then bring them to the room full of heroes and
Speaker 1: we'll go through those. So we're gonna hit up the
Speaker 1: mail bag, and you know this is alright. I find
Speaker 1: this is a good way to connect with the audience. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean this sounds like a show based on what
Speaker 1: you just described that I'm gonna hit all media social
Speaker 1: media platforms with tonight, and it's just to make you
Speaker 1: feel better about where you stand. You eased my mind.
Speaker 1: Put it that way. You gotta hit he's been getting active. Well,
Speaker 1: I don't want I don't want to waste anyone's time.
Speaker 1: Was on a three years ago and Greg's like, are
Speaker 1: you on? I said no, When I realized I was.
Speaker 1: I put like fifteen pictures up and then I got
Speaker 1: back on this week and through a few mo we're
Speaker 1: out there, by the way, speaking of our listeners. Uh,
Speaker 1: you thought of what made me vulnerable? No, I'm still
Speaker 1: this really like you're around the NFL takeover plan like that,
Speaker 1: I stumbled, Greg is vulnerable. I wouldn't. I would never
Speaker 1: want Your job is always safe from me trying to
Speaker 1: go after because I just don't want to do the schedule. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it. Uh No, and um, it has to be
Speaker 1: related to the patriots, right, I don't know. Being sorry,
Speaker 1: I interrupted. We're going to figure it out, but um,
Speaker 1: shout out to the listeners. We gotta tweet one of
Speaker 1: us are sent to the group because it came up,
Speaker 1: I believe on the show from Wednesday about where the
Speaker 1: listeners are from, and we gotta you know, you guys
Speaker 1: talked about our our highest downloaded show, and then the
Speaker 1: listeners are from all over the globe. And then someone
Speaker 1: tweeted Greg. They said, let's hear more about where your
Speaker 1: your listeners are from. Yeah, number of you tweeted, by
Speaker 1: the way, and I've got some infol First, let's give
Speaker 1: the top six because there's some problem. You asked his
Speaker 1: number one in the UK big supporters go America, and
Speaker 1: go England, and then Canada, Australia and then here a
Speaker 1: little surprising Denmark and Sweden next on the list, Mikhail Haig.
Speaker 1: You wanted to know he made a joke. He bet
Speaker 1: there's only about about four downloads from Sweden. But no, no no, no,
Speaker 1: when I o contrair about fift hundred in one episode,
Speaker 1: when I made the spreadsheet for the A T A
Speaker 1: listener map the Scandinavia, we're big in Scandinavia, all of
Speaker 1: those countries. Rodrigo Cardan, yes, card Dane, yes, hope, I
Speaker 1: probably messed that up where I'm sorry. He's from Chile
Speaker 1: and he wanted to know how many Chileans listen? Was
Speaker 1: he the only one? And uh again, not given enough
Speaker 1: of your Chilean credit here forty seven ranked number forty
Speaker 1: of the countries that listened to us. Forty seven Chileans
Speaker 1: out there listening to us? What about Greg? What about
Speaker 1: the countries that actually have just one listener? And I
Speaker 1: love that there are about twenty six of them. So
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can go through a mom.
Speaker 1: But I'll list a few here. Congo San Marino, thanks
Speaker 1: to the dude in Sri Lanka or the lady Ghana. St.
Speaker 1: Kitts and Nevis, which apparently is one thing to uh
Speaker 1: this one. I've never heard of Bonair Ststusius and Sabba.
Speaker 1: Do you know what that is? Gold standards? That's from St.
Speaker 1: Kitts and Nevis. That was a live feed, Uh, Montenegro, Tunisia,
Speaker 1: Nigeria and Christian NIC's a big fan, and Nigeria and Belize.
Speaker 1: So if you're the one person listening for many of
Speaker 1: those countries, thank you and keep it up and tell
Speaker 1: a friend make it double your output. How about the
Speaker 1: billionaire in the Infinity Pool and Belize? Listen to whatever
Speaker 1: bro I once you had to write a massive encyclopedia
Speaker 1: entry on kits and new evis. Really I worked for
Speaker 1: an encyclopedia company. Really, yes I did. I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1: Was it actually correct? This is a rare Sessler one
Speaker 1: where I don't know if he's lying or not. I
Speaker 1: know absolutely true. Something about you how to put the
Speaker 1: security metal in the binders so people want to steal dictionaries.
Speaker 1: So that was a different job. So many jobs, so
Speaker 1: many so much, Miles. I want to see your resume.
Speaker 1: That would be awesome. I'll produce it all right, Here
Speaker 1: we go, So now let's play the game What's more likely? Yeah? Sorry,
Speaker 1: I was just getting really stuck on that same kids
Speaker 1: and Nevis Wikipedia dot. Uh nothing, I mean no, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm still learning. I'll come back give us one nug
Speaker 1: by the end of the show. Here we go why
Speaker 1: from Culver City, California. It's America's favorite game show. More o, Yes,
Speaker 1: lots more likely. A game where we present two options
Speaker 1: and the room has to decide. Yeah, what's more likely?
Speaker 1: So I have a few here, and I know each
Speaker 1: of you gentlemen produced a couple of maybe one or two.
Speaker 1: So we'll just kind of go around the room. But
Speaker 1: I'll start. I'll throw out the first few just to
Speaker 1: get us cooking here, and uh start with you know,
Speaker 1: kind of an easy one or maybe not? What more?
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson has twelve yards receiving or Frank Gore has
Speaker 1: twelve yards rushing. Two veterans, both with the cults. A
Speaker 1: lot of people think this is a perfect spot for
Speaker 1: both of them. Who has a big year? Both could
Speaker 1: do it, but I think it's Andre Johnson. I think
Speaker 1: he has more left in the tank than Gore. He's
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. Gore's a running back. I think running
Speaker 1: backs have a harder problem aging in the NFL. And
Speaker 1: I liked what I saw of Andre Johnson when I
Speaker 1: watched it. I went back and watched his tape the
Speaker 1: other night. Well, for the sake of argument, I'll go
Speaker 1: Gore because I think that they brought him in to
Speaker 1: be by far, their lead back. They're going to use
Speaker 1: them all over the place. He fits well in the offense.
Speaker 1: And you know, Andre Johnson is in twenty three three
Speaker 1: years old either, So yeah, twelve hundred yards for receivers
Speaker 1: a lot. The logical answer says a j but the
Speaker 1: heart says the inconvenient truth. Frank Are, he probably needs
Speaker 1: whateva carry's in a nice per carry average to get there.
Speaker 1: I think he can do it on that team. What
Speaker 1: more likely Jets quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick makes at least eight
Speaker 1: starts or Texans quarterback Brian Hoyer makes at least eight starts.
Speaker 1: Two guys that were being told or in a camp battle,
Speaker 1: two guys where when you break down the contracts, it
Speaker 1: wouldn't be crazy if they if they ended up as
Speaker 1: the starters. Who's more likely to start half their team's games? Two?
Speaker 1: Very good? Uh, what's more likely? Questions so far? I'm
Speaker 1: back very even. I'm back baby because this is a
Speaker 1: tough one. Gully hurt, but now it's better with Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: For the Chain Gailey connection, I feel like Gaily imported
Speaker 1: him just to start well. And O'Brien is a connection
Speaker 1: to Hoyer but also to Ryan Mallett, and I gotta
Speaker 1: believe they just the way they talked about Ryan Mallett,
Speaker 1: forget the Hoyer contract aside. They seemed to love him
Speaker 1: so much a month ago, and then then what they
Speaker 1: did with Hoyer confuses me. I'm going Fitzpatrick. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go Hoyer just because the Geno smith bandwagon. That's really
Speaker 1: my corner. That's that's where you want to That's that's
Speaker 1: kind of my thing right now, is is sticking up
Speaker 1: for Gino Smiths. I'm gonna stick with it that he'll
Speaker 1: have a nice season. I think it actually strangely works
Speaker 1: to Gino's favor that this will not be a sham
Speaker 1: competition this time around. He's gotta beat out Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 1: Not like the vic thing from last year. Let's see
Speaker 1: if it maybe motivates him because he's got something and
Speaker 1: thank he shows a two to three times a year.
Speaker 1: That's not enough. That's more likely the Patriots get knocked
Speaker 1: off their a FC East throne, or the forty Niners
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I'll go the forty nine Nears make
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I talked about this a little bit on
Speaker 1: the last show, that everyone just assuming they're gonna win
Speaker 1: three or four games. But they're still the guts of
Speaker 1: a fairly talented team. And as much as it's fun
Speaker 1: to make fun of them, you could see Colin Kaepernick,
Speaker 1: I'm scraping out nine or ten wins or something and
Speaker 1: getting there. Plus, I don't want to think about a
Speaker 1: world where I'm getting grief from a Jets fan winning
Speaker 1: the division. He said, AFC East throne, not a FC
Speaker 1: throne division. Yeah, I gotta go with the forty Niners here.
Speaker 1: The Patriots don't lose that division. I go one. Oh
Speaker 1: you're gonna answer answer? H no texting? What's the questions
Speaker 1: the question? This is a special repeat it just for
Speaker 1: Mark Sesler. The Patriots get knocked off their a FC
Speaker 1: East throne or the forty Niners market playoffs. Mark has
Speaker 1: tuned out as that time Ian Rappaport was on the show.
Speaker 1: New England will absolutely win the division, so anything else
Speaker 1: is less likely. I'm going more likely the Patriots. When
Speaker 1: the vision that was kind of more like a cold
Speaker 1: check with the group. I I got a few male
Speaker 1: bag tweets about why we were so down on the Niners.
Speaker 1: But apparently as down as we are in the Niners
Speaker 1: were more down on I think it should be non
Speaker 1: Patriots amzs thing. You should be self evident while we're
Speaker 1: down on the forty Niners. O forty Niners fans, Mark,
Speaker 1: you obviously have one ready. Well, see I did it.
Speaker 1: I didn't, so I was scrambling to come up with
Speaker 1: an all right, So it's a week sixteen, and what's
Speaker 1: more likely e J. Manuel is the Bills starter or
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel is the brown starter. It would be bad
Speaker 1: news if Johnny Manziel is not starting by that point
Speaker 1: of the season for the Browns. I would think the
Speaker 1: Bills are out on EJ. Manual. The Browns still, I
Speaker 1: would think have some investment even though they're definitely I
Speaker 1: would think have a lot of trepidation about Johnny football,
Speaker 1: but I would think it's got to be Manzell starting.
Speaker 1: I think it's Manziel. I think the Browns have to
Speaker 1: find out what they have in Manziel. The Bills are
Speaker 1: that that ship's already floated when they benched him for
Speaker 1: Kyle Orton. This is a very complicated I mean week sixteen,
Speaker 1: so that's late. Mark likes the long term. By then
Speaker 1: they might have may might have found out what they had.
Speaker 1: And Johnny Man's that you said they gotta find out.
Speaker 1: I think maybe by then they might have found out
Speaker 1: and then he's no longer starting. Based on what he
Speaker 1: said on I said it's week sixteen. In weeks sixteen,
Speaker 1: I'll give it to you, j Manuel. I hate to
Speaker 1: think of what you know. Basically, Matt Castle. I guess
Speaker 1: in this scenario, Matt Castle led them UH to a
Speaker 1: ten and four record. They're just gonna rest their starters
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. That's highly that is out there, West.
Speaker 1: Do you have one for us? What's oh what more
Speaker 1: likely by May one Adrian Peterson is playing for a
Speaker 1: different team, or I have gone on five dates? By
Speaker 1: what date? First? Wasn't fair because you can wait a second,
Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna I wasn't gonna bring your private life
Speaker 1: into the show. But since you and at it, it's
Speaker 1: important that everyone knows that West has something's cooking right now,
Speaker 1: apparently right you need to let us know that there's
Speaker 1: some couple of irons in the fire. Irons in the fire.
Speaker 1: So you're this is like, it's a loaded question on
Speaker 1: but I I maintain that I've never been on a
Speaker 1: date in my life, so this is this would be breaking, right,
Speaker 1: But you also have inside information. It's it's about you.
Speaker 1: It's really this is really a prism for talking to
Speaker 1: like what are different girls? So what's the ladies situation?
Speaker 1: And that's for me to know. I don't even know
Speaker 1: what the lady situation is. Well, i'm gonna say you
Speaker 1: making that five five dates because I don't think you
Speaker 1: bring this up with a little bit spring in your step.
Speaker 1: There's a there. I won't say anything other than I
Speaker 1: think West is a little um you know, it's a
Speaker 1: little flutter to his heart right now, and he thinks
Speaker 1: he's gonna be on us several dates. And I also
Speaker 1: have always long disagreed with your notion that you've never
Speaker 1: been on a date. Uh, if you hung out with
Speaker 1: a lady this past weekend, which I don't know if
Speaker 1: it happened or not, that's a date, buddy. Even if
Speaker 1: it's not a tuxedo and roses at the local s
Speaker 1: car Go factory, it's a I'm going west because I
Speaker 1: mean otherwise, it's like, we gotta show some faith in you.
Speaker 1: I think you can pull this off. I mean, are
Speaker 1: you gonna try his poker face? He's definitely, he's got
Speaker 1: some cooking. But I want, I want a commitment. Are
Speaker 1: you gonna try to go on dates? Absolutely? Alright, alright,
Speaker 1: then I'm gonna go on your side here. What more likely?
Speaker 1: Greg vulnerable? I don't know. Okay, I still don't know
Speaker 1: what it is, all right? Uh? Dan, Now let's say
Speaker 1: Mark gets a tat No, no, let me think about
Speaker 1: all right, Mark gets his wife pregnant once again, and
Speaker 1: at the end of the season has a new baby
Speaker 1: that he names Bow or Dan gets his wife pregnant
Speaker 1: and names his kid Crow after Antonio CARMARTI. So they're
Speaker 1: Dwayne Bower, Antonio Comarty of such good season. Your name
Speaker 1: your prodigy? W e s bo w E. I hope
Speaker 1: that was clear. I can only scrash tag bower cry.
Speaker 1: Get all these speak to myself that my wife, sweet Emily,
Speaker 1: would absolutely, and I'm not joking, leave me and fly
Speaker 1: back to Texas if I ever tried to force her
Speaker 1: hand with the name crow and she saw the Hard
Speaker 1: Knocks season where you couldn't name his kids, Well, Darrell
Speaker 1: might have been a better option, I guess, But I
Speaker 1: was trying to think of a player more on the
Speaker 1: level of bow. I'm trying to say, no way it
Speaker 1: happens in Mark already has several kids named after NFL players. Well,
Speaker 1: I named a child Colton after Colt McCoy, which was
Speaker 1: ill fated potentially. Uh but listen, what about Luc McCown
Speaker 1: resigned today? Officially, I'm gonna bet on myself here. Why not?
Speaker 1: I like that, I know my powers like that. You should,
Speaker 1: I'm telling you you should. Uh? What more likely Trent
Speaker 1: Richardson averages four yards per rush in Oakland this year?
Speaker 1: Or Ted Williams wins the American League bat poor t
Speaker 1: rich All T rich needs is one kerry for four
Speaker 1: yards and then shut it down for the season. Wait,
Speaker 1: are we the first people to ever call him t
Speaker 1: rich By the way, I'll tell you what the rich
Speaker 1: he believes in himself. Yeah, does that mean anything? What
Speaker 1: more likely? All right, Charles Clay chucky as uh more
Speaker 1: than eight touchdowns or Jordan Cameron has more than eight touchdowns.
Speaker 1: The people are thinking, I'm gonna go Jordan Cameron. I
Speaker 1: just think that they number one. They've shipped out all
Speaker 1: the wide receivers they have, and they've got a quarterback
Speaker 1: much more than the Buffalo Bills do eight touchdowns. I
Speaker 1: mean heat in Cleveland two seasons ago. That's who he was,
Speaker 1: So you gotta hope he can get We've not seen
Speaker 1: that from Charles Clay in Buffalo with E. J. Manuel
Speaker 1: or Matt Castle at the Helm. I'm going Jordan's Cameron
Speaker 1: as well. I think he's the closest thing we've seen
Speaker 1: to Tony Gunzalez. He can post up in the end zone,
Speaker 1: highly athletic, boxes people out. Charles Clay. I mean, first
Speaker 1: of all, you need a quarterback who's gonna throw eight touchdowns.
Speaker 1: So I'm not believing that, And I am following the
Speaker 1: law of God hates the Browns, which means Jordan Camer
Speaker 1: will sustain no head injuries this year and we'll go
Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl and have eight to ten touchdowns.
Speaker 1: But more likely Chip Kelly flames out this season with
Speaker 1: the Eagles and either quits or resigns, or Sean Payton
Speaker 1: flames out with the Saints neither quits or resigns, Dolori
Speaker 1: gets fired. Excuse me for each one. I'll goes Sean
Speaker 1: Payton just because of the craziness around that franchise. I
Speaker 1: don't know if he would have to resign or what
Speaker 1: would happen. Unsettled ownership stuff always causes issues. Yes, for Trump,
Speaker 1: the first one Chipim Kelly, Sean Payton who flames out
Speaker 1: neither get quits or gets fired. I agree with the
Speaker 1: Sean Payton sentiment. Kelly is an interesting one to put up, though,
Speaker 1: because I could see Kelly if things didn't go his way, Specifically,
Speaker 1: the kid could bounce to go back to college he needs.
Speaker 1: He's got that in his teacherch Where's Sean Payton gonna go? Necessarily,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Peyton, though, just because that organization seems
Speaker 1: to be in flux. The Cowboys will go five and
Speaker 1: eleven and Jason Garrott exactly what more likely? I got
Speaker 1: one more? Jason Garrett goes down as the next Tom Landry.
Speaker 1: This is a call back to uh Tony Romo, who
Speaker 1: was on Kimmel yesterday and was talking about a conversation
Speaker 1: he had while drunk on the party Bush jarred bus
Speaker 1: and made a off handed reference to Jason Garrett being
Speaker 1: the next Tom Landry or Reggie Mackenzie goes down as
Speaker 1: the next Ozzy Newsome. Who's more likely to be fondly
Speaker 1: remembered by football historians, Jason Garrett or Reggie Mackenzie. What.
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett has had some success, now you want to division,
Speaker 1: Reggie Mackenzie has only shown that he can tear down
Speaker 1: a roster the one. Here's the thing, Reggie Mackenzie, this
Speaker 1: is a team that's sucked for so long that if
Speaker 1: he found the quarterback last year, and if they draft
Speaker 1: another draft or two that works and they get good,
Speaker 1: suddenly everyone forgets all the crap that happened before. But
Speaker 1: I'm going Garrett because I think that the Cowboys have
Speaker 1: put all two sides of the fence, because I mean Mackenzie,
Speaker 1: like it's so easy just to dismiss him entirely and
Speaker 1: bury him, but like he might have found a quarterback
Speaker 1: and then things start to roll Garrett. They've put twenty
Speaker 1: years of work into this guy for Makeman's back up
Speaker 1: through all the times he was coming up. You know,
Speaker 1: they have endless years as an assistant. I'm going Garrett.
Speaker 1: I think they already feel like he is someone that
Speaker 1: they want around for a long time. I'm going to Mackenzie.
Speaker 1: All this. Mackenzie shots that West has been taken. Garrett
Speaker 1: already had chantship five or six years. I feel like
Speaker 1: we know who he has a coach. Maybe Mackenzie's gonna
Speaker 1: turn it all around. He had a great draft class
Speaker 1: last year. Khalil Mack, Derek Carr, they're got They're coming
Speaker 1: for you West. Yeah, I don't. I'm forgive me if
Speaker 1: I don't have Derek Carr in my Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: yet like everyone else does. All right, anybody have any
Speaker 1: other ones? That's what was more likely today. That's how
Speaker 1: you get out of segment. Guys. That's good. See, that's
Speaker 1: how you need me in this chair. That's how vulnerable
Speaker 1: I think you're listening to some of the some of
Speaker 1: the sea. Your Segway game was tight, Oh man, I'm serious.
Speaker 1: The Segway game was great. Never one of my strongest suits,
Speaker 1: but you forget about it all right, now, let's hit it.
Speaker 1: It's time. We haven't done this in a while, so
Speaker 1: but this is one of our favorite things to do
Speaker 1: because we adore all of our listeners. Let's hit the mailbag.
Speaker 1: Hit the song. Zack just kidding, just wanted to keep
Speaker 1: you on your toes. There is no song for the mailbag.
Speaker 1: We just we just actually was waiting for us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: me too, I got this one. We're gonna get sued
Speaker 1: by every every artist, like dance artist that had one
Speaker 1: hit in the nineties and is now eating uh, you know,
Speaker 1: stovetop dressing every day. We're gonna get sued by all
Speaker 1: of them when they find out what's going on in there.
Speaker 1: We need to get the congo line going. Next time
Speaker 1: that some one comes on, I'll give you guys that
Speaker 1: know who came up with that song. Come on, ride
Speaker 1: the train, be very impressive. Keenan Ivory Waynes Dirty South,
Speaker 1: the Quad City djsh like Rock City Isola. I guess
Speaker 1: I don't know that you know. Now you're past me. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, let's do the mail bag. Let's hit it up.
Speaker 1: We'll get through as many as we can before we
Speaker 1: get out of here. Uh. Let's see where do we
Speaker 1: want to start? This from Nicholas Lanigan, who asks which
Speaker 1: city would be around the NFL boys like to set
Speaker 1: up an expansion podcast in excluding Tybee Island, West. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is very specifically stated, where would you set it up?
Speaker 1: I'll go first. I love I don't know why. I
Speaker 1: pop to my head, Austin, Texas. Big fan of Austin, Texas.
Speaker 1: My wife's from the area. I think it'd be fun
Speaker 1: to be set up in Austin. Go to Austin city limits.
Speaker 1: A lot of good beersicks were part of it. Or
Speaker 1: it's like we would go somewhere. No, no, we would.
Speaker 1: The way I thought of it is like, kind of
Speaker 1: where were if we were taping in a satellite office
Speaker 1: somewhere on New Orleans. That's the easy answer, it's the
Speaker 1: right answer to I'd go, um, London, England, and I
Speaker 1: was playing to the audience, and I like it. Well,
Speaker 1: we're already we have a campaign underway. This would make
Speaker 1: it more logical to get us over there. Three great answers.
Speaker 1: I've often said, if I could pick anywhere I had
Speaker 1: to move in the United States, and it wasn't l
Speaker 1: A or Tybee Island, Austin and New Orleans would be too.
Speaker 1: Maybe one and two on my list. How about St
Speaker 1: Kitts and Nava Nevis? Well, what's not to like about that?
Speaker 1: This from Tom Marshall When and this is for you, Greg, Really,
Speaker 1: when will we know if the a t NFL team
Speaker 1: is coming to London? On to London hashtag send all
Speaker 1: your mail to Roger Goodell three Park Avenue has nothing
Speaker 1: better to do than sort through the postcard just keep
Speaker 1: sending them and send us the tweets of the postcards
Speaker 1: they go out like this. Um, I would love to know,
Speaker 1: but I'm afraid we'll know sooner than later. But you
Speaker 1: might not like the answer. Well, that means we're not
Speaker 1: working hard enough. That well, that means if it right now,
Speaker 1: it's it's looking less uh than definite. That means the bosses,
Speaker 1: I would think the boss I means he's gotta step
Speaker 1: up some wheels and need to step it up. It'd
Speaker 1: be tough to imagine the whole group going, but let's
Speaker 1: step it up and get a couple of people. That
Speaker 1: would cause a total Yeah, that would be issues. We're
Speaker 1: gonna send two or three people and someone else sits
Speaker 1: back And I'm staying back. Moving on this, this is
Speaker 1: from Stephen at duran Hoe. I mostly picked us because
Speaker 1: he has Strangely, his wallpaper is a bunch of photos
Speaker 1: of the doctor that killed Michael Jackson and then splashed
Speaker 1: across the photo it says legend. So this guy nodded
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson fan. It's kind of strange. Weird. Uh would
Speaker 1: Greg mind? If I wanted to start a Delaware tribute
Speaker 1: band in the UK? It would be Chorus. Delaware is
Speaker 1: Greg's goth punk band, emo band from the late nineties
Speaker 1: that he founded and has buried all the tapes. How
Speaker 1: would one start a tribute band? They would have to
Speaker 1: know what your music was. That a lot of tweets
Speaker 1: about that too. People are asking can we get some
Speaker 1: files they're out there again, because we've gotten pictures in
Speaker 1: the past. I dropped the ball on that. If you
Speaker 1: are out there and you're listening right now, and you
Speaker 1: have audio of Delaware, specifically songs where Greg was the
Speaker 1: lead vocalist, please get them to us. We will send
Speaker 1: you some NFL merchandise. Moving on, This is from uh
Speaker 1: t JR Teletales eight dre that's Andre Johnson going to
Speaker 1: the colts was like a punch right to the Texans.
Speaker 1: Texans fans collective, what move had that same effect on you?
Speaker 1: A move in your football fandom life that hurt moved?
Speaker 1: How about Cleveland moving to Baltimore? Right that I wouldn't
Speaker 1: I would make sense to me. It did. Um this
Speaker 1: sounds weird, But the only real painful one I can
Speaker 1: think of the Patriots was when Robert Edwards blew out
Speaker 1: his knee at that get that throwing music up. But whatever,
Speaker 1: he was the rookie of the year and then his
Speaker 1: career was over. That's something that immediately after the season,
Speaker 1: that was Don Rogers dying. Wait a second, I can
Speaker 1: and he can't buy nothing new? What new England narrative?
Speaker 1: Because imagine, imagine you had the Rookie of the year,
Speaker 1: and then in February, right after the Rookie of the Year,
Speaker 1: his career was over and it was a gruesome injury
Speaker 1: playing beach flag football, which they discontinued, not surprisingly the
Speaker 1: inspiration for the Dossier of Despair. The Bengals cut Lee
Speaker 1: Johnson the day after he went and criticized everything wrong
Speaker 1: with the franchise. He listed everything wrong, and it was like,
Speaker 1: all right, I got a pun of representing my exact viewpoint.
Speaker 1: They cut him the next day and I never rooted
Speaker 1: for him, and it did say what move? So Edwards
Speaker 1: really doesn't qualify. We're gonna think of this. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say my all time genital shot, I would
Speaker 1: say is when Vinny Testam already popped as Achilles. But
Speaker 1: the move it's strange because the Jets so obviously haven't
Speaker 1: had a lot of success in my lifetime. But Keyshawn
Speaker 1: Johnson when he was traded to the Bucks, that really
Speaker 1: bothered me a lot um because I was younger and
Speaker 1: the team meant a lot to me, the team and
Speaker 1: then they shipped them off and it was just like
Speaker 1: it was a reminder of how sports work, and it hurt.
Speaker 1: You haven't you don't have anything. You just went tons
Speaker 1: of super bog question great job, t moving forward? Oh
Speaker 1: this is a big one, t D excuse me, a
Speaker 1: gold standard. Uh So I'm gonna need your help with it.
Speaker 1: This was from Connor O. Leary at Old Leary C
Speaker 1: five hashtag Elimination Chamber, Gyrs, Birds, sound drop, j iruse
Speaker 1: bired I ruse and just to clarify, he's giving us
Speaker 1: two options and one would have to be I guess,
Speaker 1: eliminated from the show or Brandon flowers sound drop? You
Speaker 1: want to make flowers that have only one could could
Speaker 1: be eliminated forever? Well, these are like our children. This
Speaker 1: one's easy for me. Cash. I would get rid of eliminated. No, no,
Speaker 1: I would get rid of flowers. I would get rid
Speaker 1: of flowers. I haven't even watched True Detective bus Bird.
Speaker 1: It feels like that's that's like a historical part of
Speaker 1: the show somehow True Detective in my top two or
Speaker 1: three shows ever. Um, but not because of that sound drop.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go flowers. You're out all right? Good answers, guys.
Speaker 1: This one from Tom big time listener Budgie is here.
Speaker 1: Would any of the scientists, So, um, you know this
Speaker 1: is West and Greg and you know Mark, you hang
Speaker 1: out with me above the fray. But you know what,
Speaker 1: I know you want to go down there every once
Speaker 1: in a while. I have no sometime. If you do,
Speaker 1: that's fine, And I'm okay upstairs. So this goes to
Speaker 1: you one in the room. But the old Zeuser as
Speaker 1: they call me, would any of the scientists ever aspire
Speaker 1: to work in a front office in a GM type role.
Speaker 1: Interesting question from budget is here. Absolutely yes, I would
Speaker 1: same here in a second. Now. I mean I guess
Speaker 1: in some fantasy world, but no, not in a real
Speaker 1: world that situation. I like, I like my job. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no one's asking me, but no, I would not. I
Speaker 1: would rather be on the outside. Baby, Greg's not the
Speaker 1: real scientist here. I think I could build a winner.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're starting over from scratch, but I'm
Speaker 1: talking about where I am in my life with two
Speaker 1: children stuff, starting that whole process. Yeah, I'll see in
Speaker 1: fifteen years when you get to that point when you're well,
Speaker 1: I'm just stationed them. You don't have to go scouting
Speaker 1: on the road for fifteen years. I'd love to do
Speaker 1: that too. You basically had a it's it's you. Would
Speaker 1: you love traveling? Uh? You? It's basically a five year march.
Speaker 1: Let's say to GM that would be fun. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't like all a scorn that I would get
Speaker 1: from all the football people in the build. You know
Speaker 1: you got you never played. We'd cut an interesting figures
Speaker 1: at GM because there's zero football background in our history
Speaker 1: on the field. Nothing. Uh, moving forward? All right, West,
Speaker 1: this is when you wanted to make sure we added
Speaker 1: because it's something you wanted to address. This is from
Speaker 1: Stu at Lanky Streak of where is Wes's map of
Speaker 1: the world with all of your listeners from last offseason
Speaker 1: now before West answer is just a quick reminder way
Speaker 1: back in the day, West said, you know, we have
Speaker 1: so many listeners around the world. I'm gonna get a
Speaker 1: map and then put pins where all the listeners are
Speaker 1: and through the year over the past year, so people
Speaker 1: wanting to see this map doesn't exist physically, but it
Speaker 1: does exist, right, Wes does exist. Greg actually bought a
Speaker 1: map for us, or he bought the corkboard, and then
Speaker 1: when they redesigned the studio, we couldn't put it up. So, uh,
Speaker 1: gentleman by the name of Ralph Graham was nice enough
Speaker 1: to make an online I'm mapped through Google and I
Speaker 1: input all of the names that were given to me,
Speaker 1: all of the countries around the world, and we had
Speaker 1: I don't know, probably upwards of a thousand names on
Speaker 1: this map. I've tweeted it out six or seven times.
Speaker 1: I can tweet it out again, but uh, we might
Speaker 1: need a and on a place, you know, like a
Speaker 1: home for it online somewhere sounds like people need to
Speaker 1: do a better job of following your Twitter feed. That's
Speaker 1: basically what I'm getting, speaking of things to get off
Speaker 1: our chest. Another question that I get all the time
Speaker 1: on the mail bag, and I want to address it now.
Speaker 1: This some George Mason, the Grievous Angel. That's a Grand
Speaker 1: Parsons song. He's a boy. Okay, it's probably a big
Speaker 1: GP fan. Uh of the around the NFL crew if
Speaker 1: they're the Beatles of NFL podcast? Whose Ringo? That's not
Speaker 1: a fair That's not by the way, this is what
Speaker 1: you're asking. When you do that, you're saying, address publicly
Speaker 1: who's the worst member of the podcasts? First of all,
Speaker 1: none of us are the worst. That we're all equally awesome,
Speaker 1: number one, So stop trying to cause dissension. Aren't you
Speaker 1: a fan of the podcast? You know who's Ringo? Grievous Angel?
Speaker 1: But you know, in his defense, he thinks it's fun,
Speaker 1: you know, gonna cause issues. But now that I'm reading
Speaker 1: it more closely, ring a ringos alive? You know, the
Speaker 1: saying half de Detles are not alive. I wouldn't mind
Speaker 1: being ring I'd rather be a ringo. Right now, I'm
Speaker 1: sure his wonderful. That's still rather yes, I am sure
Speaker 1: his life's wonderful. He's ringo star, Greg? Is this slipping
Speaker 1: very comfortably into the Beatles? There's your answer. Greg's ringo starts. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is another one for west This from Chris Moriarty
Speaker 1: at Ginger Moriarty and that usually means Garrett top. Can
Speaker 1: Chris Westling email me his Bangles dossier for quote research purposes?
Speaker 1: Sincerely a Redskins fan. I guess the streamline this. How
Speaker 1: would one go about starting at dossier or getting that
Speaker 1: ball rolling on quitting it? This? Uh? I'm trying not
Speaker 1: to sound too contankerous here, but this, this has really
Speaker 1: touched a nerve ever since I brought up the dossier.
Speaker 1: All these fans of their teams think that they can
Speaker 1: just quit their teams and it would be so easy.
Speaker 1: I compiled this dossier because rooting for the Bengals in
Speaker 1: the ninety was much in the ninety was much worse
Speaker 1: than anything any fans are going through now, and I
Speaker 1: could point out things that have happened even since the
Speaker 1: nineties that are worse. The Bengals turned down the entire
Speaker 1: draft of the New Orleans Saints plus two more first
Speaker 1: round picks and the second round pick so they could
Speaker 1: draft Achille Smith. They instituted something called a loyalty clause,
Speaker 1: which sounds orwelly and like a team would institute a
Speaker 1: loyalty clause. Because we're off. The Tryers didn't want to
Speaker 1: play for them anymore. Corey Dillon said he'd rather Flip
Speaker 1: Burgners didn't play for the Bengals. This stuff doesn't happen
Speaker 1: to any team now. I don't want to hear from
Speaker 1: Eagles fans saying Redskins fans, All right, you're like knee
Speaker 1: high to a June Bob. This Bengals wouldn't exist if
Speaker 1: Art Modell hadn't fired Paul Brown. Yeah, so how would
Speaker 1: they go about it? Was? Well, I think you should
Speaker 1: be a little a lot more patient, would be my
Speaker 1: It would be my first thing. And then if you've
Speaker 1: reached the point where you've had it with the owner
Speaker 1: or something else, start compiling your you know, I don't know.
Speaker 1: You can start by printing out the crisp color signs
Speaker 1: for thirty two million dollars news articles and see how
Speaker 1: that looks in a year or two. All right, let's see,
Speaker 1: I'll do one more one more, Greg, what's your favorite
Speaker 1: type of cheese from James Beauty? That's how you go
Speaker 1: That's how you go out That this is more just
Speaker 1: setting up for the last one. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't have a favorite cheddar okay, uh West, Just so
Speaker 1: you know, Grant Everett wants you to know that Tybee
Speaker 1: quote Island is barely even an island, more like a
Speaker 1: glorified peninsula. Peninsula. I wish Westling wasn't a liar. Ever,
Speaker 1: that doesn't confront me not playing the sound drop on principle,
Speaker 1: there are this one also. I know this one's up
Speaker 1: there with your mom's an astronaut um. We all know
Speaker 1: about the breakup songs list that West has, But what
Speaker 1: about what does Chris listen to when he's in a relationship.
Speaker 1: I know this. I actually overheard. If you if you're
Speaker 1: plugged in, there's something cooking with West right now. And
Speaker 1: I heard this in his iPod the other tack. No,
Speaker 1: that song is terrible. Bolton, what is this that when
Speaker 1: West had a car he was also playing this in
Speaker 1: his tape deck? So I can confirm an assault on
Speaker 1: my character. Michael Bolton has my least favorite song of
Speaker 1: all time. He redid when a Man Loves a Woman
Speaker 1: a wonderful song by Percy Sledge, and he killed it.
Speaker 1: That isn't awful. And finally, finally, finally, finally, Uh, this
Speaker 1: from Danny Thompson at Dan Tello underscores seven always sneaking
Speaker 1: and people throwing those underscores like you Mark Sesler underscore NFL. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know. No. Underscores are confusing. I think you
Speaker 1: probably lose a lot of potential followers. But he isn't
Speaker 1: agree with the Oh you don't, You're just Mark sessl NFL.
Speaker 1: I don't like that this one, Danny Thomas, would you
Speaker 1: rather your team was a suit was won a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl and then stunk for fifteen years, or it was
Speaker 1: fun to watch for fifteen years but never won a
Speaker 1: Lombardi Trophy. And this this cause I brought it up downstairs.
Speaker 1: Uh in the newsroom caused a lot of debate. Uh,
Speaker 1: West will start with you. Well, I you know I
Speaker 1: saw too many oh and eight seasons with the Bengals.
Speaker 1: I mean, and I don't think there's anything worth that
Speaker 1: misery To me, it was enough to dump the team
Speaker 1: when you go through enough of that, and I've been
Speaker 1: through enough Cincinnati Red seasons that end in June to
Speaker 1: know that I don't want my baseball season to ever
Speaker 1: end in June um and I'm lucky enough to have
Speaker 1: seen the Reds win a World Series, so I feel
Speaker 1: like it's something where I got enough happiness in my
Speaker 1: own life. I don't need the team to provide it
Speaker 1: for me, but I do need them to entertain me
Speaker 1: through a full season of the sport. So I'm taking
Speaker 1: the keep be good for fifteen years, keep me interested. Mark. Honestly,
Speaker 1: at this point in my journey with the Browns, if
Speaker 1: they want a Super Bowl, I probably would just be like,
Speaker 1: thank you, this has been fun. It's over now. I
Speaker 1: don't care what you do for the next fifteen years.
Speaker 1: I don't need a bunch of get close entertainment episodes.
Speaker 1: Get it, get it done, and let's call it a day. Greg,
Speaker 1: I think you'd take the title. I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: best thing you can do as a fan. I'd why
Speaker 1: is everyone out there if not for a title? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just and it doesn't matter what's happened before. You
Speaker 1: just want that one great season. And it kind of
Speaker 1: depends who you are, too, because while I definitely see
Speaker 1: West's point, he makes a good one. When I brought
Speaker 1: this up the Daniel Jeremiah downstairs um who apparently has
Speaker 1: a podcast. Uh he's and he's a Padres baseball fan,
Speaker 1: and in a minute he went in a second he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, give me the World Series. I'll be
Speaker 1: bad for fifteen years. And I feel the same way.
Speaker 1: And as a Jets fan, um, as someone that was
Speaker 1: born the year Ronald Reagan was elected and my team
Speaker 1: has never even been to a Super Bowl. Loon one one,
Speaker 1: give me a win. I dealt with misery. But we
Speaker 1: should find the hardcore Bucks fans out there because that's
Speaker 1: pretty much the organization that was terrible forever they've won one,
Speaker 1: and now they're terrible. They've been more or less terrible
Speaker 1: since they won one. I'd much rather being Eagles fan
Speaker 1: for the past fifteen years in a Bucks fan. It's
Speaker 1: interesting and I'm a fair point. I'm with Greg and
Speaker 1: the point that that's what being a fan is about,
Speaker 1: is that climb that climbed to finally be the champion.
Speaker 1: I know you don't get a ring, and it's not
Speaker 1: your that's being players about. I think as a fan,
Speaker 1: that's what being a fans about two is being finally
Speaker 1: getting to the top of the mountain and knowing how
Speaker 1: that fifteen years we're all you know, none of us
Speaker 1: are twelve years old here. I mean you take us
Speaker 1: fifteen years from now and you say half and have
Speaker 1: a nice fifteen years, you have some fun seasons. When
Speaker 1: are they going to win a title in my Lifetime's
Speaker 1: here's the answer. I like, will be good ever year
Speaker 1: for fifteen years part of the question, and then in
Speaker 1: the sixteen year will win it? Well, that's that's that's
Speaker 1: part of it. Well, we're good every year. We've got
Speaker 1: a great chance to win it. In the sixteen years,
Speaker 1: we're always there. Fun to watch. H And before we
Speaker 1: go one month, BacT On our favorite nation in the world.
Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, Saint Kitts and Nivas. Apart from Carnival,
Speaker 1: the island of Nevis has its own unique festival, Culturama.
Speaker 1: Looks like we're going there Cultorama, we should bring cult Cessler.
Speaker 1: They're celebrated on the weekend of Emancipation Day. It began
Speaker 1: nineteen four when some islanders feared that their native folk,
Speaker 1: art and customs were being lost, so they started Culturama
Speaker 1: to reconnect people with their traditional culture. In addition to
Speaker 1: arts and crafts, the five day long celebration includes dances, music, drama,
Speaker 1: and religious sacrifices. Parties, boat rides, swimsuit contests, and street
Speaker 1: jams have all become a lot going on there at
Speaker 1: one time of the year that I don't know. Let
Speaker 1: me look that up. I think we can put there
Speaker 1: from St. Kitts and Navas better listen to this episode,
Speaker 1: right there was just somebody who was on vacation. Do
Speaker 1: you think that any Do you think that the St.
Speaker 1: Kitts resident listen to our show ever walked through culta
Speaker 1: rama while listening to our podcast? They have to. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be next. It's gonna be out the door. You
Speaker 1: can't be that big, right, all right? So we will
Speaker 1: thank you very much for that gold standard. I always
Speaker 1: love gold Standard Thursdays. We will be back on Monday
Speaker 1: with another week of shows, so thank you very much
Speaker 1: for listening. Before we head out, Greg is going to
Speaker 1: name the rest of the one person uh countries that
Speaker 1: listen to our show. This is Dan hans As signing
Speaker 1: off for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, The Boss and t
Speaker 1: Day behind the Glass until Monday. Let it rip. Greg,
Speaker 1: thank you to our listener in Cape Verde, the Falkland Islands.
Speaker 1: How Zambia, my brother once went there. Go for Senegal,
Speaker 1: say Belarus, St. Vincent and the Grenadine, Joey Watts, Ethiopia, Myanmar,
Speaker 1: I know someone from Mine Maar, the Republic of Moldovia, Bangladesh, Angola.
Speaker 1: Thank you, especially Palestinian Territory, Tajikstan and Madagascar. Also gold
Speaker 1: standard behind the glass, not TV, that's all right,