Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast, Lost the locker room and
Speaker 1: can't find you. Welcome back to another edition of the
Speaker 1: Around the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and
Speaker 1: I'm joined by room filled with heroes. Mark Sessler, Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What's up boys? Hey Dan, We're back in here. Mark.
Speaker 1: I'm actually disappointed that you're not wearing your oversized sports jacket.
Speaker 1: I was hoping it would become your thing, like you
Speaker 1: would start dressing like paul A pound Stone or something. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's where I'm trying to West for outdated references. No
Speaker 1: one knows Paula Poundstone in two thousand fifteen. Oh, I
Speaker 1: feel like my Twitter feed will say otherwise. Mr Rosenthal
Speaker 1: references are great, by the way, So they're great. West.
Speaker 1: So this is We're back in the studio one day later,
Speaker 1: because that is what we have to do. Uh, Free
Speaker 1: agency week. Even though things are starting to slow down
Speaker 1: a little bit, it's calming down. There's still plenty of
Speaker 1: things to talk about, obviously, but we're not uh in
Speaker 1: the frenzy. Where are with Greg? We added the frenzy
Speaker 1: at this point. Now we're in the slow trot right now.
Speaker 1: But today it's busy. Still, more news will happen over
Speaker 1: the next four days than really happens for all of May, June,
Speaker 1: and July. So we've got a lot of people out there.
Speaker 1: Unless you're Dan, you're Whenever Dan is in on a weekend,
Speaker 1: there's always a wild string of arrests. Usually a felonious
Speaker 1: incident goes down that leads to trouble. I am looking
Speaker 1: forward to Sunday basically, west a lot of incidents when
Speaker 1: you're when you're on. Because Mark and I are off,
Speaker 1: I know it's almost suspicious now that I think of it.
Speaker 1: Um So, yeah, So we have a lot to get
Speaker 1: to today on AH, I think this is gonna be
Speaker 1: a really good show. Gonna be a great show. Actually, Uh,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about uh the moves that we've loved
Speaker 1: so far. We're gonna go around the table at least once.
Speaker 1: Give us a move you love, then we're gonna do
Speaker 1: a move you hated, and we'll talk about why we
Speaker 1: feel that way. We'll also we're also going to uh
Speaker 1: check in on our go get my lunch a dirt bag.
Speaker 1: I don't like that one. Go get my lunch Slee's bucket, brown,
Speaker 1: Go get my lunch clown. It's got a nice ring
Speaker 1: to Yeah, we're gonna check in on those are problem
Speaker 1: Go get my lunch mark. Oh anything that I think
Speaker 1: it's again Greg creating environment. Yes, going to create a
Speaker 1: letter to HR. So I was really excited. You struggled
Speaker 1: with the game was really what I went through. Um,
Speaker 1: I went through all of them. Uh we got about
Speaker 1: sixties seventy percent already decided and something that will be
Speaker 1: interesting to check in on now that a free agency
Speaker 1: is three days old. But before we do any of that,
Speaker 1: we're gonna check behind the glass and uh, this is
Speaker 1: a new thing. Now late in the week, our final podcast,
Speaker 1: our old friend, our current friend, and our future friend,
Speaker 1: the gold Standard? What's up about it? Not too much?
Speaker 1: How you doing? How are you doing? Just great? I
Speaker 1: have to say, I gotta just put it out there
Speaker 1: so everybody knows. I walk into the studio and immediately
Speaker 1: there's gold Standard on on the board. He's he has
Speaker 1: some new drops that he took care of. He's doing
Speaker 1: some organization on the hard drive. And you wonder if
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a shot across the bow of
Speaker 1: TV who maybe getting a little too comfortable now under
Speaker 1: his glorious stewardship. He's done a fantastic job. And I'm
Speaker 1: just here, you know, for general maintenance, doing my thing,
Speaker 1: keeping the ship afloat. But he's doing I don't you know.
Speaker 1: We all know gold Standard away from the podcast to
Speaker 1: one of the nicest people at NFL Media, and you
Speaker 1: know that's that is who he is. But in this
Speaker 1: particular case, there is it was a he was really
Speaker 1: trying to outshine t D. Verbally. I think it's like
Speaker 1: a lot of pro athletes, that answer might be politically correct,
Speaker 1: but it hides the fissures that are below the surface.
Speaker 1: It's like Tom Brady when he stepped in for Drew Bledsoe,
Speaker 1: saying all the right things, but just trying to take over.
Speaker 1: There are some parallels. Most most parallels when it comes
Speaker 1: to gold Standard connect to Golden Tate as we know
Speaker 1: who he has active sandwich wager over. But the Tom Brady, uh,
Speaker 1: but that is t D. Drew Bledsoe. I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he'll be in Buffalo working on a The Buffalo Times
Speaker 1: podcast two years from now. That's a shot. All right,
Speaker 1: Let's do some news, t D. Now, let's do some news.
Speaker 1: Gold Standard, beautiful the great teddbas the million dollar Man,
Speaker 1: makes sense, perfect sense during free agency weeks. So let's
Speaker 1: talk some money, and let's start with DeMarco Murray, the
Speaker 1: number one running back on the market at least you
Speaker 1: know until if or when and if Adrian Peterson shows up.
Speaker 1: But DeMarco Murray, the reigning rushing champion, is now a
Speaker 1: member of the Philadelphia Eagles. He signed a five year
Speaker 1: deal where the touch over forty million, more than twenty
Speaker 1: million guaranteed. We're hearing according to uh Ian Rappaport, NFL
Speaker 1: media insider, So de Marco Murray going to the Eagles.
Speaker 1: But that's only half the story here, because in a
Speaker 1: kind of like a weird day where we're trying to
Speaker 1: figure out what's going on with the Eagles. Ryan Matthews
Speaker 1: we thought had a deal, and we talked about this
Speaker 1: on yesterday's show, and then it looks like Murray gets
Speaker 1: the deals and Matthews is out. But then Matthews, before
Speaker 1: we came up today, signs a three year deal at
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. So Murray the Eagles. Excuse me, if the Eagles.
Speaker 1: So Murray and Matthews both on the Eagles. Thoughts, greg
Speaker 1: I wonder if the Eagles just felt like they owed
Speaker 1: it to Ryan Matthews after they already agreed to a contract,
Speaker 1: you know that, like whether it was too late because Mark,
Speaker 1: you talked about it downstairs, you didn't This was probably
Speaker 1: wasn't their plan all along. The Murray Matthews combo, I
Speaker 1: don't think you. I mean, I don't think you planning
Speaker 1: your offseason and say this is how we're going to
Speaker 1: attack it. But maybe Chip Kelly feels like you can
Speaker 1: have both. I don't have a problem with that. So
Speaker 1: I'm saying that you think that they did it at
Speaker 1: almost that of a as a favor to Matthews, not
Speaker 1: to hurt him, not a favor, but they agreed to
Speaker 1: a contract with him. They're not going to back out now.
Speaker 1: I thought it looked like Matthews was going to back out,
Speaker 1: and that that that the possibility of him going to
Speaker 1: Oakland or somewhere else was really coming from his camp.
Speaker 1: That was the sense that I got. It sounds like
Speaker 1: maybe in between they surveyed what market was still out
Speaker 1: there for him, and the deal they had with Philadelphia
Speaker 1: was probably the best deal. And he said, I don't
Speaker 1: mind sharing the ball with you know, de Marco Murray.
Speaker 1: He's a great player. This is a great team. I
Speaker 1: just want to contribute. And ultimately, he's not getting really
Speaker 1: any more money than Shane Veren's getting, and he's getting
Speaker 1: high quality backup money and he's probably the best backup
Speaker 1: in the league. I loved the Matthews signing yesterday or
Speaker 1: Wednesday or Tuesday when it first was agreed to, I
Speaker 1: thought it was great. They got an extreme bargain, one
Speaker 1: of the best early down running backs in the NFL.
Speaker 1: And then I don't know how to feel about de
Speaker 1: Marco Murray. It looks like I thought that they were
Speaker 1: bringing him in because he was such a bargain and
Speaker 1: he came out a discount rate, but it doesn't look
Speaker 1: like he did not twenty I'm that was the one
Speaker 1: really stunning thing here was the money for DeMarco Murray. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean that's especially in this market as we know,
Speaker 1: to get over twenty million, and to me, it's just like,
Speaker 1: all right, this is good for DeMarco Murray's career. After
Speaker 1: four under touch season, you would think that he's not
Speaker 1: gonna have to be used in that way again in
Speaker 1: this offense. I will I will throw it uh to
Speaker 1: you guys with this question, if you're the Eagles, would
Speaker 1: you rather have Lashawn McCoy or the DeMarco Murray, Ryan
Speaker 1: Matthews combo? What's it better? Are they better off now
Speaker 1: than they were a week ago? Yes, they decided by
Speaker 1: the end of last year that they didn't like McCoy
Speaker 1: on the field and all those How about would Chris
Speaker 1: Wesley and rather have? I would much rather him McCoy
Speaker 1: and Matthews didn't, or I would rather him Murray and
Speaker 1: Matthews did McCoy I would too, And I'm surprised it
Speaker 1: seems like Eagles fans don't feel that's way because to me,
Speaker 1: de Marco Murray you can say he's an injury risk,
Speaker 1: but he's a top five to seven running back in
Speaker 1: the NFL, So the difference between him and McCoy is
Speaker 1: not great if it is at all. And then you
Speaker 1: get Matthews and you really get Alonso too. So I
Speaker 1: think it's those three guys or Lashawn McCoy in the
Speaker 1: volume with when you know with which they run the ball.
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with over the course of
Speaker 1: a long season, two guys. It's not gonna split fifty fifty.
Speaker 1: We know that, and I don't know. They must have
Speaker 1: talked to both running backs behind the scenes and said,
Speaker 1: here's what we might do with it. I don't think
Speaker 1: they even know. And by the way sprawls in the mix,
Speaker 1: that to one thing, and we talked about this yesterday.
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly continues to bring in guys that have some
Speaker 1: injury history, and Ryan Matthews is basically best known for
Speaker 1: not being able to stay healthy. So you think if
Speaker 1: you have two which is it's not even true. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a running back. Running backs get hurt. Hold on,
Speaker 1: hold on, hold. There's a lot of people throwing around
Speaker 1: the phrase injury risk when they really mean recency bias.
Speaker 1: Leshawn McCoy two years ago, nobody knew if he'd play
Speaker 1: another down to football because he was still three months
Speaker 1: later experiencing experiencing concussion symptoms. To me, still that's a
Speaker 1: much bigger injury. But he has anything Ryan Matthews had.
Speaker 1: That that's true. It's a fair point out in McCoy.
Speaker 1: But the reality is McCoy's hasn't missed almost any games
Speaker 1: in his entire career. But if your Matthews has throughout
Speaker 1: his career, he missed four as a rookie, he missed four.
Speaker 1: Maybe he missed for him. Well, it's like Jeremiah says,
Speaker 1: her players or Herd players, they stay hurt. That's that's
Speaker 1: what they do in their career, don't. I mean there's
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of examples where they don't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just, well, you're right West, But I
Speaker 1: think it just emphasizes the fact that having two over
Speaker 1: one in that kind of offense. That's why I like
Speaker 1: having the two of them and not just leaning on
Speaker 1: one guy. And then he's gone in week three. That
Speaker 1: that's a fair point. And he we've heard that they
Speaker 1: want to have a three headed monster. To me, Murray's
Speaker 1: a three down back. I mean, that's why you get
Speaker 1: him is because he's the most complete guy and that's
Speaker 1: why he's getting all the money. But it does make
Speaker 1: you feel like Kelly doesn't exactly have a plan and
Speaker 1: he's still the fantasy owner kind of like the first
Speaker 1: day waivers open after the season starts, or you know,
Speaker 1: before the season, and he just says like picking up
Speaker 1: everyone he can and then dropping and then changing his
Speaker 1: mine is like Okay, I'll go with damnit running back
Speaker 1: and then wide receivers typically doesn't work out. The fantasy
Speaker 1: owner that overthinks things. But I don't know, it's like,
Speaker 1: this is the weird move to me. I don't know
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of money now invested in the
Speaker 1: running back position for for the Eagles, and and I
Speaker 1: don't know. It's like, who are you trying to prove?
Speaker 1: What are you trying to prove into? Who? Chip? And
Speaker 1: maybe it all works out and they're gonna be great
Speaker 1: this year, But I don't know. I just don't. I
Speaker 1: don't believe in these moves either, not both of them. Anyway,
Speaker 1: one or the other would have been fine to me.
Speaker 1: I think he's getting himself into money problems potentially. I
Speaker 1: like both of these backs in that offense. You know,
Speaker 1: we heard so much about the North South thing. In
Speaker 1: my opinion, two of the top five North South runners
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But the head scratching part is they
Speaker 1: both operate better when they're getting twenty carries a game
Speaker 1: like we saw that with especially with the Matthew new
Speaker 1: years ago. Well, maybe one of you know, one of
Speaker 1: them gets hurt. It's essentially maybe Matthews is an insurance
Speaker 1: policy and a and a very good one. And a
Speaker 1: team that is run first, or maybe they're gonna be
Speaker 1: run first. Everyone thinks that Chip Kelly is the passing guy,
Speaker 1: but at Oregon and we've seen in phil Adelphia, he's
Speaker 1: just as much about the running game. You call him
Speaker 1: insurance policy. Don't be surprised if Matthew's outproduces DeMarco Murray.
Speaker 1: With what we saw the last two months of the season,
Speaker 1: de Marco Murray was not the same back that he
Speaker 1: was the first three months of the season. And I
Speaker 1: think that's that has to be part of the reason
Speaker 1: why the Cowboys didn't show any aggressive So what do
Speaker 1: the Cowboys did they go to the draft. That's the
Speaker 1: weird Jan Peterson in their back pocket, don't they? I
Speaker 1: don't know. That's the weird thing about the Chip Kelly
Speaker 1: as a GM. You know, is it the best value
Speaker 1: to spend all this if another if the Raiders did this,
Speaker 1: we would make fun of him. That's the reality that
Speaker 1: they're spending this much money when the draft, when the
Speaker 1: draft is this deep at running back. Uh. So we
Speaker 1: talked about two running backs that got paid and now
Speaker 1: running back that just got cut. Trent Richardson was waved
Speaker 1: by Wow, say you get a millennial in here behind
Speaker 1: the glass, and you never know what's gonna happen. Trent
Speaker 1: Richardson waved by the Indianapolis Colts capping. I would say
Speaker 1: one of them in terms of personnel lows in the
Speaker 1: Colts history. Uh first round pick that gave up a
Speaker 1: year and a half ago or so to get Trent
Speaker 1: Trent Richardson, and Richardson was a stiff. He could not move,
Speaker 1: he condnot gain yardage. Good staff that we heard downstairs
Speaker 1: that he has the second lowest yards per carry average.
Speaker 1: Is this from us? It was from ESPN Twitter, second
Speaker 1: lowest yards per carry average of any running back in
Speaker 1: the NFL ever since nineteen seventies. So could not had
Speaker 1: no explosion of no burst, never was what they want
Speaker 1: him to be. And now he's out the door. One
Speaker 1: of the biggest draft busts of all time or trade
Speaker 1: bust of all time, and could go down as the
Speaker 1: last ever trade for a first round pick for a
Speaker 1: running back. I mean, who's gonna give up a first
Speaker 1: round pick for a running back anymore? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe Adrian Peterson and goes down as uh Man I
Speaker 1: was talking the other week about Michael Lombardi's charm life.
Speaker 1: This was the Lombardi trade, right, I'm not mixing it up,
Speaker 1: and it was him in Banner and they were openly
Speaker 1: fried from all angles. We were even can sentering this trade. Actually,
Speaker 1: this is a good reminder of how stupid we all
Speaker 1: are that when this trade came out, it was mostly
Speaker 1: people thinking it was a great trade for the Colts.
Speaker 1: You say that though, and I do remember on this podcast.
Speaker 1: We were split. We thought that the Browns made a
Speaker 1: good deal, that it was a fair deal for the round.
Speaker 1: We were split. I read an article saying Ryan Griggs
Speaker 1: and pulled off a high right, so they were half
Speaker 1: of the that was wrong. But but we were split.
Speaker 1: And in in defense of everyone that defended or fried,
Speaker 1: uh defended the move by the Browns or excuse me,
Speaker 1: got okay, it's been a long week and a defensive
Speaker 1: anyone that said Trent Richardson was gonna be a stud
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis, he wasn't that bad as a rookie with
Speaker 1: the Browns. He had looked fresh. He never looked like that.
Speaker 1: He ran over some people. They even made a new
Speaker 1: rule because he is crown of a helmet, destroyed someone
Speaker 1: that one time, so he didn't look too bad. It
Speaker 1: was only really after he got to the Colts where
Speaker 1: he looked totally sluggish. So at the time he didn't
Speaker 1: the guy he became wasn't who he was at the
Speaker 1: time of the trade. And Dan and I have a
Speaker 1: major sandwich bet on this because you claim that he
Speaker 1: will never position. I've never qualified the word, Dan says,
Speaker 1: Trent Richardson will never play another snap in the NFL
Speaker 1: and season I went in the regular season. Well not
Speaker 1: in the playoffs of course. All right, well, now I
Speaker 1: am taking that he will because hey, he's only twenty
Speaker 1: three years old. I had the date room. He's twenty
Speaker 1: four years old, just a year over twenty three. Dan,
Speaker 1: and you know, when you get picked up two years
Speaker 1: from now, maybe he has a big comeback story and
Speaker 1: gets in a week. Well, one thing you're missing is that, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got the pedigree in the background for some team
Speaker 1: to say we're going to fix this. I'm gonna tick.
Speaker 1: Can I jump in on this? No, this is personal.
Speaker 1: Feels like you're backing out here. Either you believe in
Speaker 1: Richardson or you don't or whatever. I'm talking to the
Speaker 1: person that I did the prop bet with it, Would
Speaker 1: you please let me do it? When when Mark and
Speaker 1: I were downstairs and I was laying out what I
Speaker 1: thought would happen, this is how I know I'm going
Speaker 1: to be the victor. Because I know you're plugged in
Speaker 1: on Richardson from his Brown's days and all that. I said,
Speaker 1: this is how I see his career going. He's going
Speaker 1: to he got cut. He's gonna get cut in training
Speaker 1: camp by some team that took a look at him.
Speaker 1: He's gonna sign with the CFL and then kind of
Speaker 1: flame out after a couple of years. You said, no,
Speaker 1: he'll never go to the CFL because he doesn't like
Speaker 1: football enough. Well, then how's he going to get back
Speaker 1: into the NFL. I to see you that some team's
Speaker 1: gonna think we can make something out of a guy.
Speaker 1: If one thing, he's twenty nine, get in shape about
Speaker 1: his age. If you look at every every player that
Speaker 1: had a carry last season, there are probably twenty guys
Speaker 1: on there that none of us outside of West and
Speaker 1: Greg so you and me have ever heard of. There
Speaker 1: there is some GM out there that is still thinking
Speaker 1: about his evaluation that he made of Richardson coming out
Speaker 1: of car Exactly these guys always get chances, and it
Speaker 1: can be a third running back that gets two or
Speaker 1: three carries at some point. I'm going with Mark Kajana.
Speaker 1: Carter was the worst player, not worse. There was an
Speaker 1: injury problem, but he kept getting chances Washington, New Orleans
Speaker 1: late in his grad People just let these guys who
Speaker 1: get taken high in the draft get chances after chance.
Speaker 1: It's uh, Ritchie Inconnito got back in the league. And
Speaker 1: you want to stand by the way because I picked
Speaker 1: my spots. And when we get to the prediction, uh,
Speaker 1: sandwich props. You'll see that I'm on a roll, so
Speaker 1: I might be right about this too. You'll see you are.
Speaker 1: You are cleaning up, moving on. The Jets are finalizing
Speaker 1: a deal for a reunion with Antonio Crimarti, the thirty
Speaker 1: year thirty year old cornerback, is close to a deal,
Speaker 1: reports Albert Breer. Uh, this will reunite drell Us and
Speaker 1: Cromarty in the Jets secondary. They played together from two
Speaker 1: thousand ten to two thousand twelve. We know the Jets
Speaker 1: also signed Buster Screen screwing screens up screen. Uh, so
Speaker 1: it looks like they have a brand new secondary. I
Speaker 1: like this move. Don't love this one as much as
Speaker 1: Revs obviously, and again this makes him a lot better
Speaker 1: in the short term, their corner, their secondary is gonna
Speaker 1: be so much better. And Cromarty had success with Todd
Speaker 1: Bowls last year and now he's playing with Bowls again.
Speaker 1: West you think it was a bad signing. Now the
Speaker 1: Jets just cracked me up. They're hilarious. They couldn't pay
Speaker 1: Cromarty three million last year because they wanted a wall
Speaker 1: Dmitri Patterson on their roster. Don't paint the whole Jets
Speaker 1: that was he was done. I think it's funny like
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan would kill with this team. He would he
Speaker 1: would be doing awesome with this team, and they couldn't
Speaker 1: give him Cromarty last year. They couldn't give him Revers Well,
Speaker 1: but you know what it might not have been. You
Speaker 1: should have signed Cremarti last year, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: you should sign him this year. You want Caremarty that's
Speaker 1: hungry coming off a disastrous season on a contract he
Speaker 1: doesn't like. You don't want Caremarty here, who has been
Speaker 1: wildly up and down in his career, in his in
Speaker 1: his thirties, getting that final payday like that's not the
Speaker 1: guy that I'm really looking forward to. Well, who would
Speaker 1: you rather have Crimarty or what's on the market. I'd
Speaker 1: rather draft someone and not signed big, bad contracts bringing
Speaker 1: back Why are we going back and forth? Sometimes it
Speaker 1: matters the money, and sometimes it doesn't. What happened to
Speaker 1: how the salary caps getting bigger and bigger, and this
Speaker 1: and this stuff doesn't matter anymore. I don't think Cromarty
Speaker 1: is a good signing, regardless for big time money. It
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it doesn't mean money doesn't matter. It means
Speaker 1: we have to recalibrate a little bit of our expert
Speaker 1: Cremarti in the New England secondary right now depends on
Speaker 1: what the contract to us. We should let the listeners
Speaker 1: behind the curtain here a little bit. The scientist heat
Speaker 1: in the newsroom has been replaced by a FC East heat.
Speaker 1: Yes and I just look at each other a couple
Speaker 1: of times a day. You know. It's always a great
Speaker 1: idea in the NFL, bring back a team that was
Speaker 1: moderately successful three or four years ago, but pay them
Speaker 1: way more money. Somebody's no listen. I'm I'm being honest.
Speaker 1: I don't think this was a home run signing. But
Speaker 1: it makes them better again. They're they've got better. They're
Speaker 1: better in their secondary now. So I think I'm on
Speaker 1: board of it. It's just they're just you know, they're
Speaker 1: making moves, they're doing it. I like it, and I'm excited.
Speaker 1: The book that we've referenced roughly times on this podcast,
Speaker 1: I just love reading the mixed reaction to everything that
Speaker 1: Antonio Cromarti represented as an on field player and off
Speaker 1: field nuisance and the mixture of all of it that
Speaker 1: I wonder if you know, Bulls made it work with
Speaker 1: him last year, that's a big part of this. You're
Speaker 1: not throwing Cremarti on a guy that's never worked with him.
Speaker 1: If they can make it work. Grievous and Cremarti together,
Speaker 1: they studied a ton of film. Rievus was a good
Speaker 1: influence on him. Maybe d Mailner isn't a total disaster.
Speaker 1: Buster screen is serviceable? You really you fixed the secondary?
Speaker 1: So about you're paying him like a really good well,
Speaker 1: I think he's more than service will whenever you whenever
Speaker 1: you say something nice about them, people go crazy. And
Speaker 1: I realized he's got to work on the penalties. But
Speaker 1: you all they wanted was the new front office to
Speaker 1: go in and fix this defense. They've done it. And
Speaker 1: the screen was their number two corner last year, right
Speaker 1: for the Browns. Yeah, so they're asking, they're he's gonna
Speaker 1: be the Jets nickel corner, the third corner, So you're
Speaker 1: giving him so I don't know, we'll see the only
Speaker 1: thing with the Jets that would worry me if I
Speaker 1: was you is every time you know, you couldn't have
Speaker 1: been more opted. Like the Jets nation was very positive
Speaker 1: about the team a year ago, weren't they kind of
Speaker 1: coming off that eight and eight season and it falls
Speaker 1: apart going into the eight and eighteen and everyone thought, oh,
Speaker 1: this is the worst team in the league. Like we
Speaker 1: all like, it's the worst Jets thing ever. And then
Speaker 1: they kind of saved it. They were could march champions.
Speaker 1: The fan base, honestly, the fan base was confident before
Speaker 1: free agency last year, coming off that season with Rex
Speaker 1: back after it's it's it put the stink out there
Speaker 1: almost immediately. Jetsons are very unhappy about what he did
Speaker 1: in the in the secondary, and uh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's all over though, It's it's gone. It's a new
Speaker 1: era eight. It's not a new era at all, maybe
Speaker 1: a game better uh, the New England Patriots. Speaking of which,
Speaker 1: and the Jets former wide receiver Percy Harvin. Uh A
Speaker 1: former Jets wide reesciter Percy Harvin now a free agent
Speaker 1: after being cut the Patriots, according to Chris Wesling, wrote
Speaker 1: a great piece breaking down where he thinks Percy Harvin
Speaker 1: winds up a list, the great list of five teams,
Speaker 1: and gets into it on each of them he puts
Speaker 1: puts at the top of the Pats. Which which you
Speaker 1: think west that Harvin makes sense? On the Patriots, well,
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick has always been a huge fan of Percy Harvin,
Speaker 1: to the point where Brad Children's used to go around
Speaker 1: gloating that he drafted Percy Harvin one spot before Belichick
Speaker 1: because the Patriots really wanted Harvin um and so I
Speaker 1: think that makes the most sense. Ian Rappaport has said
Speaker 1: that Patriots have a very good chance to get him.
Speaker 1: Of course, he visited Buffalo first, so we'll see what
Speaker 1: happens from there. Where is Brad He is at a
Speaker 1: right aid instant photo booth working is the second oh
Speaker 1: Man night shift? Wasn't he like a still telling that
Speaker 1: special Projects coordinator as he's done with his special project.
Speaker 1: Yet I was like Lincoln Logs, didn't he become like
Speaker 1: spread game coordinator or like Wildcat he became saying that
Speaker 1: he had nothing to do with what he's special projects coordinate?
Speaker 1: What was chud when he first got hired after Browns?
Speaker 1: Didn't he have a ridiculous title too? Yeah? Something a
Speaker 1: mint of male. Excuse me, we've been working a lot
Speaker 1: this week. This is outrageous. I like that. Percy Harvard,
Speaker 1: by the way, kind of leaks to um ESPN is
Speaker 1: just seeing Anderson that he's grown tired of being a
Speaker 1: gadget guy. He wants to be used more as a
Speaker 1: traditional wide receiver, and he wants to play with a
Speaker 1: more experienced quarterback. And like, this is a guy with
Speaker 1: not a lot of self awareness in terms of like
Speaker 1: his market value, you know what I mean? Right now,
Speaker 1: after everything that's gone on the last few years, I
Speaker 1: don't know what Look what happened the one time he
Speaker 1: played with the Hall of Fame quarterback Brett Farve, he
Speaker 1: was the best slut receiver in the NFL. Somebody in
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is not like the worst player. Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: not known for being one of the best passers in
Speaker 1: the NFL. Were you going for administrative assistant? Yes, I
Speaker 1: was admin assistant three like I just high pad, I
Speaker 1: just got this one. His his title was special assistant
Speaker 1: to head coach. That doesn't sound that there's a lot
Speaker 1: of those not too bad. But how do you think
Speaker 1: that makes all the other assistants feels not so special?
Speaker 1: Or Williams? I don't think they were envious in the mix.
Speaker 1: By the way, Brandon Gibson is not going to cut it.
Speaker 1: By the way, your boy Danny Amundol is coming back,
Speaker 1: so that would seem to indicate West floating across the
Speaker 1: news room. He boy the stable. This just started because
Speaker 1: Gregg's been trying to cut him for a year and
Speaker 1: a half. Well, he took a pay cut to stay,
Speaker 1: so he smartly realized. All I've pointed out is that
Speaker 1: he his value would be the same as Edelman's if
Speaker 1: if he did not get hurt in the first game
Speaker 1: he played with the Patriots, he uh was largely responsible
Speaker 1: for at Ravens when I don't know have large responsible.
Speaker 1: He was a big part of it, So give him credit.
Speaker 1: Moving on such sick with the Pats Brandon Browner, now
Speaker 1: former Patriot, they let him walk. He is now a
Speaker 1: member of the Saints. The Saints reach a deal with
Speaker 1: Brandon Browner, uh three years and roughly eighteen million dollars.
Speaker 1: I don't know this one. This one's a bit of
Speaker 1: a head scratcher to me. The Patriots could have brought
Speaker 1: him back for less than two million dollars correct. I
Speaker 1: think it was five for the Patriots, but they but
Speaker 1: the Saints are paying him more than that, and they
Speaker 1: gave him ten million guaranteed I read, which I am surprised.
Speaker 1: But the cornerback market has been crazy. Really outlines how
Speaker 1: much team's value cornerbacks plus the big cornerbacks. That's what
Speaker 1: everybody wants now, and this he's is He's probably the
Speaker 1: biggest cornerback in football. Right, Let's talk about big cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: One of Mark's favorite phrases offseason hype bunnies. Saints drafted
Speaker 1: guy in the second round. I've ever heard that before.
Speaker 1: Hype bunnies season. Hype Bunnies. That's a Jim Reinicken are
Speaker 1: one of our editors downstair. As we've talked about, HiPE
Speaker 1: Bunnies typically draft able guys, though The Saints drafted guy
Speaker 1: named Stanley John Baptiste last year, supposed to be the
Speaker 1: Brandon Browner of the st six three to twenty second
Speaker 1: round they drafted. He plays like eight snaps all years.
Speaker 1: They just throwing the towel on him, and then all right,
Speaker 1: we we wanted Brandon Browner, We'll just go get him.
Speaker 1: Let's get the Brandon Browner, Brandon Browners instead of some
Speaker 1: guy with a Haitian name again the Saints. I feel
Speaker 1: like you're floating into the Abysses rap. She tweeted out.
Speaker 1: If the Saints do sign Brandon Browner, and it could be,
Speaker 1: it could very well happen. It happened Sean Payton gets
Speaker 1: his locker room enforcer. Browner will take ownership. But I
Speaker 1: don't even said yes because two championship teams have wanted
Speaker 1: him gone in the last two years. Right Page is
Speaker 1: gonna wait to get rid of him. Clearly can't wait
Speaker 1: till Brandon Browner puts a choke code on the first
Speaker 1: guy to step out of line in that locker Rood
Speaker 1: Saint toasting C J. Spiller too, That would be fun.
Speaker 1: They we would take a sandwich proposition. The Brandon Browner
Speaker 1: is back in the free agent market next season. No, no,
Speaker 1: I bet I do on that. He leads the league
Speaker 1: in don'lties. How's your vapors? Mark? It is hot in here.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening Mark fanning himself. We should
Speaker 1: get on one of those. Uh, the Asian fans like
Speaker 1: the elegant ones. I just enjoyed the fresh I got
Speaker 1: the vapors. I don't watching outrage this week. I got
Speaker 1: some of those fans. I can bring some in. Oh,
Speaker 1: that's right, Greg connected to Asian culture? Who his wife?
Speaker 1: I like that, just all of Asia the same culture
Speaker 1: to Dan Well, Japanese culture. For hr level comments coming
Speaker 1: through this mic here, I don't understand what was wrong
Speaker 1: with what I just said. Wait a gold standard. You're
Speaker 1: a cultured man, you travel the world to watch soccer. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know what was wrong with what I said? I know,
Speaker 1: I think you did find it just kind of like
Speaker 1: someone that like if they were you can't say Oriental,
Speaker 1: you can say Asian. If they were having like let's say,
Speaker 1: a swimming podcast in Japan and they just you know,
Speaker 1: referred to North American culture, it would make about the
Speaker 1: same amount of sense, wouldn't I wouldn't take I'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: that guy's probab by the way they're swimming podcast, It's
Speaker 1: a broad net geographically that we are entirely reasonable people.
Speaker 1: We don't take offense to stuff that's fair. I think
Speaker 1: brought it up. I think you'd do better with like
Speaker 1: a southern Spanish fan, like, alright, some money, it's get
Speaker 1: some equipment. We got to talk to a shadowy league
Speaker 1: figure about getting you a fainting couch. Why why why
Speaker 1: do you get so affected by the heat. Did some
Speaker 1: people I guess are just born that way, just top blooded?
Speaker 1: I don't know, Greg, why didn't you keep making comments
Speaker 1: about my person? Like just file and said right on
Speaker 1: down the human resources moving forward, Let's move forward. Because
Speaker 1: things got a little testy, the Saints have traded Ben Grubs,
Speaker 1: their guard to the Chiefs in exchange for a two
Speaker 1: thousand fifteen it's harping to read with Mark Alrightning put
Speaker 1: it down. We're fine. I'm sorry, it's just a little
Speaker 1: bit distracting my trade grubs the Kansas City for a
Speaker 1: two thousand fifteen fifth round pick. Grubs as on the
Speaker 1: books are six point five million and salary nine point
Speaker 1: six million. In the cap West. I hate when when
Speaker 1: your scientists stuff gets blown up. Because you sounded really
Speaker 1: smart yesterday and he said they wanted to build stronger
Speaker 1: up the middle. But I guess there's still trying to
Speaker 1: trim money. At the end of the day. This trade
Speaker 1: is as boring as the Chiefs are as a team.
Speaker 1: It's just another reminder of what we're saying about the
Speaker 1: Saints though. It's that they don't seem to have a
Speaker 1: coherent plan. They signed up the huge money three years ago,
Speaker 1: and now they were talking about cutting him all offseason,
Speaker 1: and now we hear several reports today that basically every
Speaker 1: player in the Saints roster outside of Ingram Breeze and
Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks is being shopped around the league. So this
Speaker 1: isn't entirely it looks like they're blowing it up. There
Speaker 1: are whispers by the way, some Drew Brees whisper. Are
Speaker 1: they all coming from Mark's death? Rom I've I've heard heard.
Speaker 1: Just keep your falling in your haughty nature, Just keep
Speaker 1: staying above the fray. Greg, You know what you're going
Speaker 1: down will not be on the right. It's your bid
Speaker 1: at this point. Every year a Hall of Fame quarterback
Speaker 1: must be traded or die or something. Next year, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Aaron Rodgers moves to join like a volleyball
Speaker 1: I really think. Also, there's a lot of evidence with
Speaker 1: the Saints in general, forget Breeze, they are just letting
Speaker 1: pieces go. It's a fire sale. I don't know what
Speaker 1: they're doing is reportedly on the mark. Let me let
Speaker 1: me just throw, let me just throw something out there.
Speaker 1: I'm always welcome no matter the context. Uh. If Drew
Speaker 1: Brees were to become of album, I'm just curious. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask the scientists. Uh, Mark, you can jump in
Speaker 1: as well. Thank you. Um, what a pleasure. What would
Speaker 1: it cost a team to get Drew Brees thirty six
Speaker 1: years old, maybe on the decline, but still a Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame passer with You would imagine a couple of
Speaker 1: years of the tank if the Saints decided we are
Speaker 1: shopping him aggressively or we are willing to we're not
Speaker 1: desperate to get rid of them. At the same time,
Speaker 1: they've made an internal decision they would like to trade.
Speaker 1: Here's where you start is a franchise quarterback. Because there's
Speaker 1: no way they would trade him without getting a top
Speaker 1: ten to twelve quarterback or a rookie quarterback, so Geno
Speaker 1: Smith and a third So you know, if if there
Speaker 1: was some team that was willing to give up their
Speaker 1: younger quarterback that they liked, or Marcus Mariota or something
Speaker 1: like that, that's the only that that would be the
Speaker 1: starting I don't think they would trade him unless they
Speaker 1: had another quarterback in the building. Like rap Sheet reported
Speaker 1: last year surprisingly during the season that the Saints would
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback this year, right, So maybe I don't
Speaker 1: know if they If they draft a second or third
Speaker 1: rounder this year and that guy looks promising in a
Speaker 1: year or two, how about Tampa Bay number one overall
Speaker 1: with an extra number one pick and one of the
Speaker 1: best players you can pick on the roster. Either the
Speaker 1: Bucks aren't ready to go yeah, but love he's Smith
Speaker 1: would much rather, I think, work with a total known
Speaker 1: quality quality under center than to start over with some
Speaker 1: young I don't think Sean Payton is thinking long term.
Speaker 1: I feel like he's year to year right right now.
Speaker 1: It's a weird situation ownership. I just can't see them
Speaker 1: rebuilding if they got back a great quarterback like Mario.
Speaker 1: If they thought Mariota was great. That's a little different.
Speaker 1: How about Drew Brees? And I'm being serious though, Drew
Speaker 1: Brees and a five for Andy Dalton. Two number one's
Speaker 1: in a conditional two that could become a one? Are
Speaker 1: you saying who says? If I'm the Saint, I say no,
Speaker 1: You're getting a quarterback that's an established guy that can
Speaker 1: be not good enough. I think. I think franchise quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are untradeable. And if I don't have a franchise quarterback,
Speaker 1: I'm willing to give up three first round picks to
Speaker 1: have a franchise quarter What about a thirty six year
Speaker 1: old franchise quarterback when the coach and GM may not
Speaker 1: even be there year two? If you were it, Dan
Speaker 1: asked this in the news room. If you're the Jets
Speaker 1: and you feel like the rest of your roster can
Speaker 1: can Pete? I would have no problem that. You know,
Speaker 1: he's not thirty nine, he's thirty six. And we've seen
Speaker 1: what Brady and Manning have done from thirty six to
Speaker 1: thirty eight, and you well, you also can't underestimate that
Speaker 1: Drew Brees is the Jim Brown of Cleveland. I mean,
Speaker 1: he brought them a Super Bowl. He is the greatest
Speaker 1: athlete that city has ever had by far, So to
Speaker 1: give him up, to trade him away would be the
Speaker 1: biggest Like Stones, people would hate it, people would stop
Speaker 1: doing season take it. So you better have people coming back.
Speaker 1: But why not trade him when he has value? What
Speaker 1: if it's a year from now, we're like, you know what,
Speaker 1: Breeze fell off a cliff last year and here's no
Speaker 1: trade value. I just said West is the GM. He's
Speaker 1: trade him because you already think their windows closed. First,
Speaker 1: I'm not trading them. I don't trade franchise quarter You
Speaker 1: just said they're super Bowl window closed. You could It's
Speaker 1: the NFL. It could be opened up. If you have
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback, the window can open up again. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 1: I got you to Franchise quarterbacks are are off the table.
Speaker 1: Cannot trade them. Well, but Belichick has done that a
Speaker 1: couple of times. They had something in place. But I
Speaker 1: mean I think that, you know, thinking out the outside,
Speaker 1: then what he traded bled so once he realized Brady
Speaker 1: was better, I and I. The difference here is they
Speaker 1: don't have that. But if you could go get the
Speaker 1: number one pick and you get you get someone like
Speaker 1: a Jamis Winston. I just think he's not twenty eight
Speaker 1: years old. He's thirty six and still playing at a
Speaker 1: high level. And by the way, Mark, I do view
Speaker 1: you as a football head. But within the constraints of
Speaker 1: the show, we refer to West and Greg. I just
Speaker 1: want to I can talk about it. It would not
Speaker 1: offend me if Mark was referred to as a scientist.
Speaker 1: I understand. I don't want to be a scientist, I understand,
Speaker 1: but I don't want to be a pirate. Moving on,
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens have agreed to a deal to keep
Speaker 1: Justin for set in the building. Birtbury reports the deal
Speaker 1: is worth about nine million over three years. This is
Speaker 1: a nice little story for said this journeyman twenty nine
Speaker 1: years old, all of a sudden shows up out of
Speaker 1: nowhere and steps into the void left by Ray Rice
Speaker 1: almost thirteen hundred yards on two seven carries and eight
Speaker 1: touchdowns last year. So they bring him back, everybody wins, right, Well,
Speaker 1: they don't bring him back to Gary Kubiak's zone blocking scheme,
Speaker 1: which was responsible keep out of without Gary Kubia right.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a great world when guys like you know,
Speaker 1: Justin Forcett get rewarded. Trent Richardson, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: not so much. I do have to add this. I
Speaker 1: know it doesn't have anything to do with or set,
Speaker 1: but this is a quote from Trent Richardson today. Uh,
Speaker 1: me and the GM didn't see eye to eye. My
Speaker 1: next step, I'll be the starter. Indianapolis didn't fit me.
Speaker 1: He is, he is the king that's gonna hurt his chances.
Speaker 1: He's like he needs to not talk. Not even just
Speaker 1: lacking self awareness, that's straight delusion. He's been saying. He's
Speaker 1: been dropping delusional nuggets, by the way for a good
Speaker 1: six months now, and he was proven wrong on every
Speaker 1: single which is sad because when he started as a
Speaker 1: rookie he was the opposite. And when he when he
Speaker 1: was traded, the one thing not to get that's what
Speaker 1: his head obviously. Well I don't about that, but I
Speaker 1: think that he he wasn't this guy who's been you know,
Speaker 1: defamed on Twitter on social media for three years now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, there makes me think there's more going on
Speaker 1: behind the scenes if he's changed his personality when he
Speaker 1: got traded a couple of veterans, you know that there
Speaker 1: was reports that said, listen, we won't miss him in Cleveland. Right, Hey, Wes,
Speaker 1: do you want to talk about some intrall role your boy?
Speaker 1: He's headed to Chicago. Is enough talking for everyone. After
Speaker 1: a five year run with the New York Giants, he
Speaker 1: signs a three year contract worth eleven point to five million,
Speaker 1: with five million and guaranteed money to the Bears. He
Speaker 1: was a nice player in that Giant secondary, made some play,
Speaker 1: was a playmaker. It was an important guy for a
Speaker 1: while there. It was time for him to move on
Speaker 1: now as that the Bears. Another Bears move. I don't
Speaker 1: get it's excited about this one. I thought that was
Speaker 1: that excited about intral role either. But Eddie Royal also
Speaker 1: going to the Bears. Reaches an agreement. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: it's been a long time since that break at rookie
Speaker 1: Year in two thousand and eight. But Eddie Royal in
Speaker 1: Chicago now catching some passes. Somebody's got to do it.
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall's not there anymore. With San Jeffrey felt that
Speaker 1: big hole you were talking about the slot in Chicago.
Speaker 1: They knew it was a big plugged in scientists greatest
Speaker 1: of all football heads. So the Bears now have Eddie
Speaker 1: Royal and natural role thoughts. It's a lot better idea
Speaker 1: than reuniting Chris Conte and Major right in Tampa Bay.
Speaker 1: That's true. CONTI leaves Chicago, they got rolled in golds
Speaker 1: and leaves Tampa that the Chicago probably got the best
Speaker 1: end of that little exchange. Yeah. I think that the
Speaker 1: Bears have been trying to find safeties ever since Mike
Speaker 1: Brown was a study. This contract by Eddie Royal it
Speaker 1: could go in my stinker contract conversation, but since we're
Speaker 1: doing it now, I'll just say it. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: a crazy contract that Eddie Royal is getting more than
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year and ten million dollars guaranteed
Speaker 1: two fifteen. I actually almost assuming that the reports of
Speaker 1: the money are wrong because it seems outrageous. I don't
Speaker 1: pretty get them. Oh yeah, that should be my thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: isn't that the craziest contract? That the two craziest contracts
Speaker 1: I've seen a Kerry Williams getting seven million for this
Speaker 1: year and then Eddie Royal getting ten million guaranteed. Alright,
Speaker 1: just so we're all clear, the rules of the Speed
Speaker 1: Round are to be it's quick and concisest, even if
Speaker 1: you're you know, a football head scientist that feels like
Speaker 1: he has a message during the actual speed round. Gotta
Speaker 1: be quick and then maybe elaborate after the speed round.
Speaker 1: I got a couple of messages on Twitter from people
Speaker 1: saying that, uh, Dan Hansas should never cut me off?
Speaker 1: Really your brothers or something. A couple of girls. All right,
Speaker 1: well let's we're gonna we're gonna investigate that area. Girls
Speaker 1: call out Dan hanss for cutting off Chris Wesley. Listen,
Speaker 1: one day when West has his own show, you can
Speaker 1: go on. That will never happen. But right now we're
Speaker 1: all the group and in the speed round, we just
Speaker 1: gotta be fast. I don't want my own show. All right,
Speaker 1: Here we go, let's do this. Here we go. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll start in Atlanta Falcon's Land. Former Bucks pass rusher
Speaker 1: Adrian Claiborne, also pass rusher O'Brien Scofield, West your thoughts
Speaker 1: well Scofield comes over from Seattle. Quinn brings him back
Speaker 1: with him, and then Claiborne has been a first round bus.
Speaker 1: That doesn't excite me at all. Tampa Bay Buccaneers more
Speaker 1: work they're doing on their defensive end. Henry Melton joins
Speaker 1: them a deal that will be worth up to five
Speaker 1: million marks. Excuse me, Greg's boy favorite player. I do
Speaker 1: feel like the Cowboys. I mean the Bucks signing Cowboys
Speaker 1: leftovers is not the best strategy. Rex Ryan has announced
Speaker 1: the Bills have signed quarterback Tyrod Taylor or Mark Saslo
Speaker 1: get excited. I mean, if you're looking for a way
Speaker 1: as a new coach, enfranchise to sell tickets. Bingo. The
Speaker 1: Raiders have signed former Eagles safety Nate Allen. Will that
Speaker 1: make a difference, West, Come on, Raiders stopping This guy
Speaker 1: was burnt all the time, and so they signed him
Speaker 1: this year so they can cut him. They got a
Speaker 1: back off the Raiders. Raheem the Dream More agrees to
Speaker 1: a three or twelve million dollar deal with the Texans.
Speaker 1: That's a nice recovery like that, nice little bargain. I
Speaker 1: don't know where Raheem the Dream came from. I don't
Speaker 1: know anything anything else. Oh. C J. Spiller is visiting
Speaker 1: the New Orleans Saints, Mark Selin. I don't know why
Speaker 1: any player would go to the Saints right now, but
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for the Jets to swoop in and get
Speaker 1: c J. Spillers. They don't seem interesting, seem to have
Speaker 1: no interest West Stevie Johnson has been released by the
Speaker 1: Four Diners. Anything left. I don't know why I took
Speaker 1: him a week to do it. The guy was making
Speaker 1: six million dollars and they would only play him ten
Speaker 1: snaps a game. I have a note here that reading
Speaker 1: two cards, Greg, Wow, Corey ready one of my favorite
Speaker 1: veteran defense alignment and cut it. That was speedy. That
Speaker 1: was great. Tell all your your minion of women, your
Speaker 1: manson uh female following. I'm not It's not personal. It's
Speaker 1: just the speed. Round comes with an element of speed,
Speaker 1: that's all. I think. Some people like it. When I
Speaker 1: have messages for State nerds, we do love it. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm still not getting through on this. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to though. We went fast that time. That was great. No,
Speaker 1: I just made my overall point on that. I love
Speaker 1: hearing the scientist pontificate. I love it. Let's cannappy, shackled
Speaker 1: by normal rules. Occasionally I get riled up, not all
Speaker 1: the time. All right, two more things before we go.
Speaker 1: Let's start with moves that we loved and moves that
Speaker 1: we hated, and so we'll do one each. If you
Speaker 1: have more. If you feel inclined, you what you need
Speaker 1: to get a second one out there. That's fine. It's
Speaker 1: our podcast. We can do whatever we want. So first up,
Speaker 1: let's go around the room, Greg, Greg, Well, that's the thing, right,
Speaker 1: it's about picking the one beyond all the other. Here's
Speaker 1: one way around that. I'm gonna smash a lot of
Speaker 1: the Colts ones together. I just like what they've done.
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson and Trent Cole especially. I just like these veterans,
Speaker 1: not over the hill, good enough, mid range money Like
Speaker 1: I love that damn quick. But do you love it? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I love it Andre Johnson. I love that was one
Speaker 1: of mine too, and and I just wanted to add
Speaker 1: Andrew Johnson reminds me a little bit of Steve Smith
Speaker 1: last year. He's gonna have a chip on the show,
Speaker 1: right and I think even better. And I think he's
Speaker 1: a better player. I think he's a better player right now.
Speaker 1: I love that move. I love Andre john you know,
Speaker 1: I do think there is the chip on the shoulder factor.
Speaker 1: By the way, I also had Andre Johnson, and so
Speaker 1: even though he showed signs of decline, Yeah, he's a
Speaker 1: pumped up guy. He's ready to do some destruction and
Speaker 1: he's playing with maybe the two m v P. So
Speaker 1: I love that move, Mark. I like Seattle getting Jimmy Graham,
Speaker 1: And I know that sounds like an overt positive for
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, but it's it's it's a move that puts
Speaker 1: them over the top of the NFC again. And it
Speaker 1: started with New Orleans that just wants to get rid
Speaker 1: of everything and get Max Unger. They wind up giving
Speaker 1: away Jimmy. A nice job by John Schneider. You know
Speaker 1: what it used to be Seattle in San Francisco that's
Speaker 1: gone by the wayside. The rest of the NFC camp
Speaker 1: keep up with this team. Seattle's going back to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. UFA UFA hot take. I also love the
Speaker 1: Darrell Rivas move, but I don't feel like I needed
Speaker 1: to be stated. Do you have anything else? By the
Speaker 1: one you have you love? I heard that eight and
Speaker 1: eight Browns going four and twelve, so and they would
Speaker 1: be a huge improvement for the Jets. All right, do
Speaker 1: you have another one that you love? You don't love anymore?
Speaker 1: I love Jaba shared to the Patriots. I love Randall
Speaker 1: Cobb in this wide receiver, in this ride wide receiver
Speaker 1: market that was great. You should have made more. I
Speaker 1: love the common sense of it. It never made sense
Speaker 1: for him to leave Green Bay and never made sense
Speaker 1: for the Packers to move on without him. I think
Speaker 1: he got banged by this theory that grew and grew
Speaker 1: and grew that that he could not possibly be paid
Speaker 1: more than Jordy Nelson or else the world would spend
Speaker 1: off its access. Should have got more money than ten
Speaker 1: million whatever. But still great job by the Packers. Moves
Speaker 1: we hated, moves we hated. And you know, we don't
Speaker 1: always like to skew negative. That's not lie. It was
Speaker 1: not that's a lie. We do love it. Greg I
Speaker 1: already mentioned Eddie Royal, So we'll stick at the wide
Speaker 1: receiver position. Jeremy Macklin's had one one thousand yards season
Speaker 1: his entire career. He has now paid like a top
Speaker 1: four wide receiver in the NFL. That didn't make any
Speaker 1: sense to me, Okay, I am uh and West you
Speaker 1: put it well yesterday about it's too soon to really
Speaker 1: say whether Chip Kelly is doing anything wrong or right.
Speaker 1: But I just I'm not a big fan of what
Speaker 1: he's been doing right up to the running back situation.
Speaker 1: Signed both those guys. I feel like he's making some
Speaker 1: young GM mistakes right now that come back to get him.
Speaker 1: So I didn't like the Spiller addition, and with DeMarco Murrays,
Speaker 1: oh move. I hated Bears picking up Cutler's option and
Speaker 1: not cutting him. I would have cut him. I would
Speaker 1: have eaten the fifteen point five million, and I would
Speaker 1: have moved on and give him my fans some hope.
Speaker 1: A team not giving their fan much hope is is
Speaker 1: the Browns. A team like Seattle goes out and gets
Speaker 1: what it wants. The Jets. I give them credit for
Speaker 1: chasing down and Philly needs. You can't do it all
Speaker 1: in free agency, but you have three ways to do
Speaker 1: it trades, free agency, in the draft, and the Browns
Speaker 1: have stayed utterly silent on two of those three options.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it's over, but from where they
Speaker 1: are at this point, they got a lot of hose
Speaker 1: to fill. Four and twelve sounds about right because they've
Speaker 1: got no quarterback. I was gonna say my other move
Speaker 1: that I hated. I hated the Josh McCown signing six
Speaker 1: point to five million guaranteed for a journeyman that's coming
Speaker 1: off a real crappy year. I just didn't get that
Speaker 1: they're just making the same mistakes over and over again.
Speaker 1: Well this kind of sound like I'm biased. But my
Speaker 1: last one I hated is the trio of Jets moves
Speaker 1: that felt like two emotions. Fifty million guaranteed for a
Speaker 1: thirty one year old inside linebacker because he didn't want
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan to get him, and then Chromarty and Screen
Speaker 1: just seemed a little a little crazy. Alright, anything else
Speaker 1: West writers spinning their wheels doing the same thing to
Speaker 1: do every year the whole pastle of their guys they said,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna cut them next year like you always do.
Speaker 1: It makes no sense overpay for mediocrity. Go the first
Speaker 1: tens of the ten games of the year with winning
Speaker 1: a game, and then cut all the guys you signed
Speaker 1: the year before. Way to go, McKenzie. You deserve an extension.
Speaker 1: I got one more for Greg. How about the Patriots
Speaker 1: when you got Tom Brady for maybe two more seasons.
Speaker 1: You're the one that said, how about go out there
Speaker 1: and go for it and they let the cornerback go. No,
Speaker 1: that's a it's a huge loss. But I'm give me
Speaker 1: a break with the Patriots. Fancy and I can't believe
Speaker 1: we're not spending free agency. They signed the third highest
Speaker 1: paid player in free agency, Devin mccordy. He's like one
Speaker 1: of the richest Patriots of all time. You know, the
Speaker 1: reva's good job by the Jets. They spend more money. Um. Also,
Speaker 1: that wasn't one of my bad times. I hated Drew
Speaker 1: Brees dressing up his child and Jimmy Graham jersey and
Speaker 1: having sulking on on Twitter. Off of that, it was
Speaker 1: something about it basically running that franchise with Sean Payne.
Speaker 1: You could have made it happen if you really wanted
Speaker 1: your child not to be on the carpet. Dad talk
Speaker 1: scorching back. All right, finally it's fun. There's more. Finally, last,
Speaker 1: but not least marking that way to get out of No,
Speaker 1: that's not true. I just I'm looking at my sheet
Speaker 1: of paper and it's a playing at this point. Um.
Speaker 1: Surprised me by the way all the Raiders hate other
Speaker 1: people think we hate the Raiders. I do. In this case,
Speaker 1: I kind of like what they've done. I think it's okay.
Speaker 1: I give them much more benefited doubt this year than
Speaker 1: what they did last year. Overall, I don't think it's
Speaker 1: too bad. I kind of like we're moving on. It's fine.
Speaker 1: I just want to tell the Raiders positions involved in this.
Speaker 1: There's no way they're winning more than six. We should
Speaker 1: set West up with one of these manson women that
Speaker 1: are following him. I'm not sure classify them as that.
Speaker 1: They're just simply females on Twitter. That totally different. Mr
Speaker 1: Westling No, and I've gotta lock my doors tonight. It's
Speaker 1: not like that at all, But you don't want to
Speaker 1: Dan Terry Melcher, Kansas. All right, So the last thing
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna check in on our go get
Speaker 1: my lunch turd propositions because we got some coverage. So
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go down the list here as as
Speaker 1: we know. Actually I didn't bring it up, but the
Speaker 1: rievas to the Jets actually nailed me on five sandwiches.
Speaker 1: I got five sandwiches off that excuse me, four sandwiches,
Speaker 1: including including Z drizzle. You know, feeling this is gonna
Speaker 1: be like a five minute hands anyone. No, No, not
Speaker 1: at all. That is how you win the game, though
Speaker 1: you're gonna be up big time because of that one.
Speaker 1: I love anybody behind the glass the and sorry Gold
Speaker 1: Center and anybody behind the glass is gonna get killed
Speaker 1: in this game. Um, let's see the minnows stepping into
Speaker 1: a shark tank. Let's see im one of my I'm
Speaker 1: just going down the list, I said to Marco, Murray's
Speaker 1: gonna sign with the Colts West End Mark sandwiches for
Speaker 1: you from me. Congratulations there, thank you? Uh? Mark or
Speaker 1: z Drizzle had raided Raiders signed Randall cop and Julius Thomas.
Speaker 1: So z Drizzle just losing necessarily this tweet from the
Speaker 1: go get my launch account. Does e Drizzle Colan jumps
Speaker 1: into the Around the NFL podcast loses five sandwiches leaves. Uh,
Speaker 1: c J. I had c J. Spiller signs with the
Speaker 1: Eagles West Gregor Mark All took me up on that.
Speaker 1: So I'm in trouble there. Uh, West Falcons either signed
Speaker 1: a rackpo or Morgan. You might not get that, Greg,
Speaker 1: and I don't think you're getting that. He didn't he
Speaker 1: keep They've signed about four different defenders and three pass
Speaker 1: freshers or so. Uh they're terrible. I said Maxwell would
Speaker 1: get more guaranteed money than Cobb West. You took me
Speaker 1: up on that. So I got you there. West. You
Speaker 1: said you said Jason Worlds would sign with the Eagles.
Speaker 1: How would you know? Greg, You're the only one that
Speaker 1: took him up on it though, So that worked out. West.
Speaker 1: You said that either Pernell McFee or Frank Gore would
Speaker 1: sign with the Colts. So they go, Greg and Dan
Speaker 1: oh sandwiches. I was getting killed for being conservative. I've
Speaker 1: wisely stated if I had just taken Yeah, well, if
Speaker 1: you had taken that other one, I had a feeling
Speaker 1: he was West. West said the Brandon Marshall will end
Speaker 1: up with cults. Dan Mark and Gregg all clean up there?
Speaker 1: Where will Sue Land the Dolphins? Greg and West both
Speaker 1: get sandwiches there. We threw out the first to sign
Speaker 1: because it got so wanked out because of the pre signing,
Speaker 1: the tamp, the legal tampering period, most guaranteed money outside
Speaker 1: of Sue. Where are we at on that? We're going
Speaker 1: to be mccordy, So none of us will because none
Speaker 1: of us had. I had Maxwell, which was the highest
Speaker 1: of our guesses. A little. But this is what you'll get.
Speaker 1: You'll get me a whole sandwich. Because you said Reeves
Speaker 1: and mccordy would sign with the Pats. I bang you
Speaker 1: on that. And then the only ones we have four
Speaker 1: more left in that are hanging out there. Uh, well, Mark,
Speaker 1: you said C. J. Spiller will not sign with the Jets.
Speaker 1: That look is good only I'm sorry West, You're getting
Speaker 1: killed here. Uh. And then he could still sign with them.
Speaker 1: You got to buy a sandwich. These are the four
Speaker 1: that are hanging out there. Adrian Peterson does not play
Speaker 1: for the Vikings. West has three sandwiches on the line there.
Speaker 1: We're all taking that um gold standard, golden, golden Tate
Speaker 1: will catch at least a hundred packs, is mark? Josh
Speaker 1: McCown does not start week one? That I don't know.
Speaker 1: We read beforehand that it could be anything. I didn't
Speaker 1: think they were going to do that. I didn't think
Speaker 1: you were gonna make the sue guaranteed money. One. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler, this is Greg's j Cutler will not be
Speaker 1: a member of the Bars after the draft. That's not
Speaker 1: looking good only Dan And you know I said, did
Speaker 1: a real onion hanger. Wes by the way, did not
Speaker 1: take that one. And finally the wait, why didn't you
Speaker 1: take that? I said, if I was on in the
Speaker 1: bear would be on my team. Yeah, that was at one,
Speaker 1: and finally I had the Sioux gets more guaranteed money
Speaker 1: than all the running backs on our top one on
Speaker 1: one list. It's looking pretty good. I have, um, it's
Speaker 1: looking pretty good for me. Yeah. For for Greg, I
Speaker 1: have the Charlie Day, always sunny in Philadelphia, Chicken scratch,
Speaker 1: Charlie writing that Greg writes, and we have a lot
Speaker 1: of the running backs involved. The big one, of course,
Speaker 1: was Murray Matthews got seven and a half, Gore got eight,
Speaker 1: and it looks like I'm gonna get the sixties. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be close, but it looks like you're gonna get that.
Speaker 1: But you were the only one that took that. So
Speaker 1: that's it. That's where we're at with the sandwiches. I
Speaker 1: like it pretty good. You're in a You're in a
Speaker 1: good place this time. Mark. I think Mark and I
Speaker 1: will be close to even I might be a little down.
Speaker 1: West is gonna be given Dan a lot of sandwiches.
Speaker 1: Give me a break. I'm giving Dan just as many
Speaker 1: as I am. And gold Stander is gonna be all right.
Speaker 1: That's it for Thursday days edition of the Around the
Speaker 1: NFL podcast. We will be back on Monday, back on Monday.
Speaker 1: Back on Monday with another show, so uh maybe uh,
Speaker 1: some the secondary market will be cleared up by then,
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe we'll have some Adrian Peterson news. It's
Speaker 1: all happening people, so we would be back on Monday.
Speaker 1: Thank you, of course for listening. This is Dana Hanss
Speaker 1: signing off for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, the Boss and
Speaker 1: the Gold Standards behind the Glass. Bye,