Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast likes this kind of party.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition to the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis and I am joined by
Speaker 1: room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and
Speaker 1: Greg Rosifa. What's up, boys? Oh? Right back in here again.
Speaker 1: I feel like we were just sitting here energy minutes ago.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of absolutely and I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: the only thing I want to tell you I'm excited about.
Speaker 1: T D does a great job for us behind the glass.
Speaker 1: But it's always good to have an old friend stopped
Speaker 1: by working behind the glass today. The gold Standard? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: hey body, how we doing? You forgot to play your
Speaker 1: entrance music? Do you have entance music? Don't think for
Speaker 1: a long time you should get some? Yeah, yeah, well
Speaker 1: it's spring training right now. I would say play some
Speaker 1: daft punk, but west West would not be on board.
Speaker 1: Song couldn't be any come on, annoying. Takes it back
Speaker 1: to Lansdowne Street in Boston, the old clubs. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: how you doing, gold Standard? What are you been up to?
Speaker 1: Pretty good? Not too much working on some projects around
Speaker 1: the office, watching a lot of football for what kind
Speaker 1: of football. Now this football congratulations in the Major League soccer.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Boyd's the work stoppage, Yeah it was.
Speaker 1: It was getting real sweaty there. Uh so it's great
Speaker 1: to have gold Cender here. And apparently us t D
Speaker 1: walks out the door he was observing the first couple
Speaker 1: of seconds. Uh, gold Stender is gonna be in here
Speaker 1: at the once a week probably going forward to think
Speaker 1: you'll be our Friday guy. That's fun, gold Standard Fridays
Speaker 1: Seductions says at gold Standard Friday's alright, so big show.
Speaker 1: I'm excited today. I'm not. Typically I'm not excited about
Speaker 1: the show at all. I dread it. I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: for it to be over. That's not true. I love this,
Speaker 1: but this show specifically because we're bringing it back by
Speaker 1: popular demand, by popular demand, we're bringing back go get
Speaker 1: my lunch. Jerk. I used to drop a B word there,
Speaker 1: but that's a little disrespectful. That's a family show. Shift
Speaker 1: at the jerk Going forward, Greg, your thoughts as a
Speaker 1: management figure, I like it. I wonder if we can
Speaker 1: come up with another word other than jerk. But I
Speaker 1: like the change. I think it's been enough. It's an upgrade.
Speaker 1: Go about go get my lunch? What about that? What
Speaker 1: about go get my lunch? Please? Go get my lunch? Please? Hobout,
Speaker 1: how about go get my lunch? Guy? None of these
Speaker 1: names is as good as the original. That's true. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll work on that. I like that you're giving gold
Speaker 1: standard extra beeping work. They're right off the back. Well
Speaker 1: you know him. I know he's capable, So we're gonna
Speaker 1: play that. And then for those that aren't aware of
Speaker 1: what go get my lunch blank is. It's a proposition
Speaker 1: aim where we we lay out predictions and then uh,
Speaker 1: you know, you challenge the rest of the group and
Speaker 1: if you get it right, they owe you sandwiches, high
Speaker 1: octane sandwiches. That is contraptions and if not, uh, it
Speaker 1: goes the other way. And Mark, this is Mark's least
Speaker 1: favorite game, which we'll get into a little later. Why
Speaker 1: you don't like it? Mark, But it's an interesting take
Speaker 1: from the Sizzler. Well, I'm just being real. It's like
Speaker 1: the Well, we'll get into it, but multiple reasons why
Speaker 1: I find it, you know, less joyful than the three
Speaker 1: of you. I said, you are cackling with enthusiasm enthusiasm
Speaker 1: this morning as you were drawing up your proposition, do
Speaker 1: you have a few yet? High octane? He was giggling
Speaker 1: to himself like a schoolboy. I was like, Wow, by
Speaker 1: the way, I'd like to think that I can prove
Speaker 1: my performance. Part of the reason I don't link the
Speaker 1: game fair enough. Although we came out even, we came
Speaker 1: out even, yeah, while you were down a few, but
Speaker 1: you had already made up something. Yeah. In the end,
Speaker 1: it's it's funny how it worked out. We're all we're
Speaker 1: all square here, and yet t D O three three
Speaker 1: to haven't received that one, and he's gotten the heck
Speaker 1: out of here beyond the mid level commitment um with sandwiches.
Speaker 1: So we'll close the show by talking some sandwiches, making
Speaker 1: some propositions about free agency. That will be the focus
Speaker 1: of the propositions. We will also have a guest in
Speaker 1: the studio, which we don't usually have guests, but when
Speaker 1: when the talent bookers at NFL Media come with someone
Speaker 1: that intrigues us, we say bring him on in. Brandon
Speaker 1: Brandon Flowers, you want to make Flowers gonna be in
Speaker 1: the studio, So we're gonna sit and talk with him.
Speaker 1: He's gonna be a free agent on Tuesday. We'll see
Speaker 1: if he ends up back with the Chargers or if
Speaker 1: he's gonna be somewhere else in a not a great
Speaker 1: cornerback market. So you would think Mr Flowers gonna make
Speaker 1: some money. We might even have to ask him about
Speaker 1: that drop. I hope he doesn't know the origin of that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't even know how he'd react to it if
Speaker 1: if people are aware of what it is. But uh
Speaker 1: so we're gonna talk to Brendon Flowers. But before any
Speaker 1: of that, we are going to swing it back to
Speaker 1: the gold standard because it's time to do some new news,
Speaker 1: can we Fella, let's do it, Dan. I know you've
Speaker 1: got some nig news here, but I'm gonna come in
Speaker 1: for some legitimate breaking news. That happened one minute ago.
Speaker 1: Maurice Jones Drew has announced his retirement. WHOA, that's big news.
Speaker 1: Yeah news, No that I mean, I think that's this
Speaker 1: was the rushing champion what two thousand twelve, three or
Speaker 1: four years ago, two thousand eleven, and under his current
Speaker 1: coach messes up his foot. Uh dreaded Liz Frank. Liz Frank,
Speaker 1: what a harlot she is? He ends up with the
Speaker 1: Raiders and and it seemed like he had nothing left
Speaker 1: in the tank. It was clear he wasn't coming back there.
Speaker 1: So he ends his career and I don't think I
Speaker 1: think he's probably about thirty one years old. Uh, not
Speaker 1: a surprise though, right, was not a surprise at all
Speaker 1: because of what you said that he it was clear
Speaker 1: that he was at the end of the road last year,
Speaker 1: but got off to a Hall of Fame start early
Speaker 1: in his career and was one of my favorite players
Speaker 1: in the NFL for a good three or four years.
Speaker 1: Is to me, the best fourth down advantage in the NFL.
Speaker 1: Early in his career, Jack del Rio, not who you
Speaker 1: would consider an aggressive coach, started going for fourth downs
Speaker 1: at a higher rate than any coach in the league
Speaker 1: because Maurice Jones Drew could not be tackled in short
Speaker 1: yard of situation. We asked del Rio at the combine,
Speaker 1: are you gonna bring this guy back? Because it was
Speaker 1: a nice story potentially, and he said, well, he said
Speaker 1: he sat down with with with with with mg D
Speaker 1: and said, are you still explosive? Are you the guy
Speaker 1: we've had last year or not? They must have come
Speaker 1: to the conclusion that they were not going to bring
Speaker 1: it back. He was expensive to two point two yards
Speaker 1: per carry last year. He's only twenty nine years old.
Speaker 1: He was in the league at twenty one. But I
Speaker 1: do remember those early years where it was him and
Speaker 1: Fred Taylor together. He was so dynamic. That was a
Speaker 1: fun tandem to watch because Fred Taylor was sneaky, one
Speaker 1: of the most fun running backs in the league to watch.
Speaker 1: And Jones Drew was always that guy you always wanted
Speaker 1: to see, Well, what could he do if he was
Speaker 1: the man? Because he was getting seven, eight, nine hundred
Speaker 1: yards and then catching the ball for five hundred yards
Speaker 1: bouncing off, and then once he did get the chance,
Speaker 1: he ends up getting a couple of d yard season,
Speaker 1: then leads the league one year. Reminder now that get
Speaker 1: on athletes, especially football players, that that hold out and
Speaker 1: want more money. He held out for after his rushing
Speaker 1: title season. He held out for a long time trying
Speaker 1: to get a new deal. Didn't happen. And then what happens.
Speaker 1: Part of the reason you get is because he was
Speaker 1: approaching like age twenty eight or whatever. At the point
Speaker 1: he hurts his foot, he gets cut. He signs a
Speaker 1: deal with the Raiders, is gonna get cut. Again our
Speaker 1: retires never got his money. Now it makes sense he
Speaker 1: was trying to use the leverage he had. It still
Speaker 1: didn't work, but I get it. He did get the
Speaker 1: good running back money on his second deal while while
Speaker 1: it was still around in the NFL. So you know,
Speaker 1: he's always been big into fantasy football, big into that broadcasting.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling he'll be probably on our network.
Speaker 1: I would assume he'll be in the fantasy football business. Also,
Speaker 1: one of the great nicknames of his era, Pocket Hercules
Speaker 1: Mark dismissive the nickname. I'm fine with it, all right,
Speaker 1: So goodbye, goodbye, mj D. It was a nice show,
Speaker 1: all right. Next up, let's pull back the curtain a
Speaker 1: little bit. We originally had a nice discussion between the
Speaker 1: four of us about Brandon marshall um being shot by
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears, but before we posted the podcast today Friday,
Speaker 1: it turned out that Brandon Marshall got traded to the
Speaker 1: Jets deals in play. So Greg's not with us right now. So, uh,
Speaker 1: the three of us are going to talk about it.
Speaker 1: And uh, I can tell you that when I got
Speaker 1: this news a text from a friend of mine in
Speaker 1: New York while I was at the d m V,
Speaker 1: which was pleasant. Wow, what a what a way to
Speaker 1: pass the time of the hour and twenty minutes. I
Speaker 1: was stuck in that infernal hell hole getting to tweet
Speaker 1: with Jet fans that are excited to getting obviously nervous
Speaker 1: tweets from Greg Rosenthal. Mark you were, you seem to
Speaker 1: be thinking it was a really good trade for the Jets.
Speaker 1: We're hearing what a fifth round? Fifth round or according
Speaker 1: to uh Albert for Brandon Marshall, who yes, thirty one
Speaker 1: years old, Yes, a little banged up, but to me huge,
Speaker 1: uh still a big time playmaker. Put him next to
Speaker 1: Eric Decker to me, the best one to combination since
Speaker 1: Keishan and Carbett for the Jets. And you know, Percy Harvin,
Speaker 1: that to me, the writings on the wall, I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's definitely gonna happen, that he's gonna be
Speaker 1: let go. Now the cut him and they get to
Speaker 1: keep their fourth round pick and they're paying less money.
Speaker 1: They trade one head case for another, but this one's better.
Speaker 1: I'm happy. The thing that we said yesterday in the
Speaker 1: segment that got wiped off the board, you know, within
Speaker 1: with our update here is that why not take a chance.
Speaker 1: We knew at the time it would be a mid
Speaker 1: round pick if bad teams, if they want to stop
Speaker 1: being bad teams start swinging for the fences, add talent.
Speaker 1: The Jets got the better side of this trade in
Speaker 1: my opinion, no doubt. It puts Decker number one. I
Speaker 1: never like Decker is a number one option. It puts
Speaker 1: him better into a place where he fits in that offense.
Speaker 1: Is a number two complimentary receiver. I think it will
Speaker 1: be the better two cornerback on different teams. Absolutely. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've got an exciting if they ever kept Harvan because
Speaker 1: Jan Gilly is one of the few guys I think
Speaker 1: they could do something special with Harvin. That is an
Speaker 1: interesting offense for the first time and how long a
Speaker 1: long time I just wrote a post minutes ago. Rap
Speaker 1: Sheet has a report that the trade does not directly
Speaker 1: affect Percy Harvin because he's such a unique player sort
Speaker 1: of a running back wide receiver hybrid. It's not like
Speaker 1: he's similar in talent to Brandon Marshall Eric Decker. But
Speaker 1: it's gonna come down to money, and the Jets have
Speaker 1: already asked him to take a pay cut. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna do it, and you've already paid Jeremy Curley last October.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine him paying all for so Harvan is
Speaker 1: gonna be gone, I would have I think even if
Speaker 1: Harvin's gone, this is a very interesting offense. To mean,
Speaker 1: the quarterback position is still a huge concern obviously, and
Speaker 1: I I'm all for them going for it, getting getting
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariotta and seeing where we can go with this.
Speaker 1: Have Geno Smith there as his backup slash guy that
Speaker 1: keeps the seat warm. Uh. But I think if you
Speaker 1: have the Decker, you now have uh, Jason Marrow. You
Speaker 1: now if they go get C. J. Spiller and you
Speaker 1: pair him with Chris Ivery, I think this is pretty
Speaker 1: good with Brandon Marshall in the mix. This is the
Speaker 1: first time in West we were talking about this earlier
Speaker 1: in the week with chan Gilly running the offense. Uh.
Speaker 1: This is the first time in years, potentially since maybe
Speaker 1: Chad Pennington's uh uh one big time year, or before
Speaker 1: Brett Farve hurt his bicep, that the Jets might have
Speaker 1: an exciting offense. I'm not even no, I don't know
Speaker 1: how to deal with it. I'm getting dizzy right now.
Speaker 1: I part of our discussion on Thursday that got wiped out.
Speaker 1: I said, of all the wide receivers available, Brandon Marshall
Speaker 1: is the one with the best chance of going fifteen
Speaker 1: hundred yards twelve tds in two thousand fifteen. I don't
Speaker 1: feel that way with the Jets just because they have
Speaker 1: a question mark at quarterback, but they're surrounding talent looks like.
Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got Marshall Decker, that's a great one,
Speaker 1: to Curly is a good lot. If you bring in
Speaker 1: Spiller and pair him with Ivory, that's a dynamic one too.
Speaker 1: You got Jayson Marrow, who is a promising young tight end.
Speaker 1: All you need is a quarterback and that's a big
Speaker 1: hurdle to find that is. But I mean you have
Speaker 1: to give if you're the Jets fan base that's gone
Speaker 1: through at this point, a lot of boring offense for
Speaker 1: years at this you know, good good defense and a stagnant,
Speaker 1: hard to watch attack. I like the new front office
Speaker 1: because they said the Big Mac they said they'd be
Speaker 1: aggressive in the combine, but what does that mean? You
Speaker 1: never you have to do that with action, and they
Speaker 1: were right here. You know, as a Browns fan, for instance,
Speaker 1: I wanted them to go make a move like this.
Speaker 1: It's the Jets that did. And I think when you're
Speaker 1: bold like this, it pays off. If this is if
Speaker 1: they keep some of this talent in attic I like Spiller,
Speaker 1: one of the most interesting skill position groups in the
Speaker 1: a f C. East. Can't believe we're even having that conversation.
Speaker 1: Let's look at the other side of it. The Bears now,
Speaker 1: uh they now? Are they still have Alshan Jeffrey there?
Speaker 1: Uh West you left at me earlier in the week
Speaker 1: about Randall Cobb. Now, this wasn't my prediction that Brandon
Speaker 1: Marshall would be out of the picture, but now they
Speaker 1: seem to have probably a need a wide receiver. Um
Speaker 1: So where do the Bears go from here? And getting
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick. If you're a Bears fan, you've
Speaker 1: gotta be pretty disappointed considering who Marshall is. Well, I
Speaker 1: think they need to pour their deep their resources into defense.
Speaker 1: That's been the Bears problem for a couple of years now.
Speaker 1: They've hit a historically and have to run defenses. So
Speaker 1: I would I wouldn't put wide receiver really high on
Speaker 1: the list. They probably need to extend Jeffrey is what
Speaker 1: they need to do. It is a good draft for
Speaker 1: wide receivers, a deep one, maybe not not like last year's,
Speaker 1: but they don't have to reach for that up top.
Speaker 1: But it's funny because even a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 1: we were talking about them as a fantasy football type offense,
Speaker 1: and bottom line, you remove Marshall, it's not the same.
Speaker 1: They've got a huge decision coming on Jay Cutler Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Ten million of his sixteen million for two thousand sixteen
Speaker 1: is due on that day. It becomes guaranteed. So essentially
Speaker 1: if they if they pick up that ten million, they're
Speaker 1: committing two years to a quarterback who was benched for
Speaker 1: Jimmy Clauson by the previous regime. I don't I don't
Speaker 1: think that's a I don't think that's a rubber stamp.
Speaker 1: I think they could decide to cut him. I want
Speaker 1: to see if later in the show someone might lose
Speaker 1: some sandwiches on a correct good call mark a little
Speaker 1: a little spoiler alert before when we when you guys
Speaker 1: get to the portion of the program listeners when we
Speaker 1: make our sandwich propositions, West might have been in on
Speaker 1: a Brandon Marshall scenario that they or may not have
Speaker 1: worked out, so stay tuned for that. That's it. We're
Speaker 1: gonna now head back bring bring Greg back into the mix.
Speaker 1: I I will leave now. I came in Friday specifically
Speaker 1: to talk about this and West can you get your
Speaker 1: cornhole boards out of my trunk? Can we take care
Speaker 1: of that? Need those for Phila daias uh Daia Graw
Speaker 1: on Friday night. I like the dance commitment to this
Speaker 1: podcast is that at the moment, while he's been up here,
Speaker 1: his car is illegally parked downstairs and it's being swarmed
Speaker 1: by security. Oh my god, anything can be happening. That
Speaker 1: Homeland Security is probably surrounding my car right now. Good
Speaker 1: job by you. All right, the Patriots will not be
Speaker 1: picking up Vince Wilfork's option for two thousand fifteen, and
Speaker 1: he will be released. Wilfork took too, I guess it
Speaker 1: was his Twitter page and posted along essentially a love
Speaker 1: note to the Patriots family in the New England fan base,
Speaker 1: uh explaining that he was a great run and he
Speaker 1: loved it there and listen the big man, Greg, you know,
Speaker 1: on your throne of ease. It's hard sometimes as a
Speaker 1: Jets fan, I hear a lot of things about the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I don't like, always loved Big Vince as a player
Speaker 1: and as a personality. You have to say goodbye because
Speaker 1: time marches on, Gregor, That's the thing. You gotta realize,
Speaker 1: time games marching. Well, I'm glad rooting for a team
Speaker 1: that recognizes that, that doesn't hold on too hard to sentiment.
Speaker 1: And I like that. I think this year was the
Speaker 1: sentiment year. If Vince Wilfork had any other name, he
Speaker 1: wouldn't even been back on the team this year. And
Speaker 1: it seemed like Robert Kraft stepped into the mix, which
Speaker 1: you don't see too often. And then you know what,
Speaker 1: he gets a second super Bowl title. Lot of it.
Speaker 1: It's it's kind of a happy ending. And who knows
Speaker 1: he might even return to the team by the sound
Speaker 1: of it, for a left that is fair. He's no
Speaker 1: team in the league does a better job of emotional
Speaker 1: releasing the players. That meant a lot. At one point
Speaker 1: we called it here on the podcast a month ago.
Speaker 1: You did, and I would you know, you'd rather have
Speaker 1: that than a team that's chasing down stars from three
Speaker 1: years ago. He uh. He also noted in his little
Speaker 1: right up he's had one major injury said he has
Speaker 1: lots of guests still left in the tank. He's thirty three. Wes,
Speaker 1: you watch a ton of tape. That's how you got
Speaker 1: named the scientist. Uh, did you see a lot of
Speaker 1: guests in that tanker? Is Vince Wilford kind of near
Speaker 1: the end at this point, I have to confess I
Speaker 1: did not watch Vince. I don't watch the Hawk. Mollies
Speaker 1: is closely. This is awkward, but I think the consensus
Speaker 1: is he's not who he used to be, but he's
Speaker 1: still played almost every down. He played more than any
Speaker 1: Patriots defensive lineman last year. He can still help a team.
Speaker 1: He can start in in the NFL and he could
Speaker 1: at least be a six hundred snap run stuff for type.
Speaker 1: He he was a solid. He just wasn't like a
Speaker 1: nine million dollar a year player, but he was solid
Speaker 1: for them. I identify with Vince Wilford. How's that? My
Speaker 1: One of my favorite videos is that video of him.
Speaker 1: It's about to bring that off where he's booging, He's
Speaker 1: got that bouncing his stuff, he's smoking ribs. Go to
Speaker 1: Google catches him like out there, unbeknownst to him, she's
Speaker 1: videotaping him and he just he's bogging out there with
Speaker 1: his ribs. He's smoking. Wilford and I am the anti
Speaker 1: Ted Johnson because I am a huge Vince Wilfork and
Speaker 1: I think Bianca Wolfwork fan there. They're the They're the
Speaker 1: macho man and Miss Elizabeth the NFL as far as
Speaker 1: I'm concerned. Check out their Instagram feed. If you type
Speaker 1: in Vince Wilfork and like dancing, it will bring up
Speaker 1: the greatest video ever Vince Wolford. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm big on her sending that out without letting him know. No,
Speaker 1: it makes you do that's charming, big man. All right,
Speaker 1: well then I'm gonna start to adeo tape the three
Speaker 1: of you from a corner and send it out from
Speaker 1: my account. She really is like, We've done that to you.
Speaker 1: Actually marks several times at their nights out. We have
Speaker 1: some videos day. I'll miss Bianca as a Patriots fan.
Speaker 1: I mean, what other NFL wife right now is as
Speaker 1: front and center and lovable and just kind of part
Speaker 1: eric that his wife. All right, easy, let's move that
Speaker 1: was awkward. Yeah. Uh, doesn't you have her own show
Speaker 1: or something? I don't know. By the way, it's not
Speaker 1: where you were coming the only you know great uh
Speaker 1: note that he sent out Greg can't get off the topic.
Speaker 1: We gotta stay. Everything's terrific, you know, throw it by
Speaker 1: an editor. No apostrophes here, that's not how he got you.
Speaker 1: Multiple super brandom words are capitalized. Just hey, hey, buddy,
Speaker 1: take a look at that. I would love you to
Speaker 1: say that to Vince Wilforck. By the way, does he
Speaker 1: hate apostrophes like? I don't know. There's not like it ends.
Speaker 1: It just ends with no punctuation exactly. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It seems fun to me. Moving on stepping on your
Speaker 1: Oh no, you didn't step on anything the Vince wolfor No.
Speaker 1: That was perfect because we're on the same page on that.
Speaker 1: This is really a kinder, gentler podcast. After last show,
Speaker 1: I felt like we were all at each other's throat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this isn't a lot better so far. It's a really
Speaker 1: good show so far. Darnell died Darnell talcket Uh. He
Speaker 1: is defecting to an NFC US rival, says the Great
Speaker 1: Kevin Patra and is right up on around the NFL.
Speaker 1: His agent announced me a Twitter that the former Cardinals
Speaker 1: defensive lineman has joined The Niners rap Sheet reports the
Speaker 1: deal is worth two years and seven and a half million,
Speaker 1: with four million and year one and two million guaranteed
Speaker 1: doct Of course, coming off that A C. L. Taire
Speaker 1: knocked him out all of last season. Uh, he's thirty three.
Speaker 1: He thinks he's gonna be the comeback player of the year.
Speaker 1: Will he be? I wouldn't bank on it. He's gonna
Speaker 1: be thirty four next season. I wouldn't bank on somebody
Speaker 1: at that age playing defensive line to be comeback player
Speaker 1: of the Year. You gotta be a starter, and you
Speaker 1: would think he would be a starter, probably replacing Justin
Speaker 1: Smith if Justin Smith retires. But he's not a guy
Speaker 1: you would expect to be out there every down. I
Speaker 1: just think he went there he heard the Jim tom
Speaker 1: Seula free agency pitch and he could not He could
Speaker 1: not tear himself away silas one for one, I like
Speaker 1: the NFC West very incestuous. They'd sign all their own
Speaker 1: players to go from one team to the next. It
Speaker 1: was just the Seahawks and the Niners doing that ar
Speaker 1: to year. But the Cardinals are in the mix now.
Speaker 1: The Rams haven't figured out how to make that happen.
Speaker 1: They're a little bit slow, But I I wonder if
Speaker 1: someone like Michael Crabtree winds up with the Seahawks or
Speaker 1: something like that, that we might not be see the
Speaker 1: end of this. I like that Docket always talk trash
Speaker 1: about the other NFC West teams, especially the forty Niners
Speaker 1: and the c X And now he joins it's a
Speaker 1: little you always have the wrestling analogies. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like that. It's like, Okay, now I'm going to join
Speaker 1: the rival and get back at my team talk and talk.
Speaker 1: It's like the honky tonk Man twitter account. I don't
Speaker 1: think he'd appreciate that. Who's the ultimate warrior in that case?
Speaker 1: Now we're going a little deep on the wrestling of
Speaker 1: the late eighties and early nineties. Uh yeah, so that's
Speaker 1: going on with him. And finally, gentleman, a little Peyton
Speaker 1: Manning talk. He passed that physical with the Broncos and
Speaker 1: uh and with it, mark You're you're great sandwich prop
Speaker 1: proposition that goes down the tubes. He will be back
Speaker 1: in two thousand and fifteen. Of course, he took that
Speaker 1: pay cut, and let's give a let's give the boss
Speaker 1: low credit. The old Greg Rosenthal. He had a suspicion
Speaker 1: that there would be incentives in the steel to get
Speaker 1: the lost four million back. However, what I found interesting
Speaker 1: about the incentives that has nothing to do with Peyton
Speaker 1: throwing fifty touchdowns or setting some type of league record.
Speaker 1: It's tied to the super Bowl. They get to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl, he gets two million. They win the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: he gets the four million back. In full, Greg, your thoughts.
Speaker 1: John Elway is nothing if not clear with his objectives.
Speaker 1: It's like John Fox, you don't win a super Bowl,
Speaker 1: you're fired. Anyone that doesn't win a super Bowl you're fired.
Speaker 1: Like we we want you to take a pay cup.
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. The only thing you can do. Win a
Speaker 1: super Bowl. You get four million dollars. It's a little
Speaker 1: it's almost like a sneaky dig. It's like, oh you
Speaker 1: want all that money, well, here go get it from me.
Speaker 1: I think there is a dig. I still think this
Speaker 1: whole situation is strange. That you had to make him
Speaker 1: take a pay cup. Something still feels weird to me.
Speaker 1: I realized I lost the sandwiches. I liked it. It
Speaker 1: came this far. It's March and yesterday we still didn't
Speaker 1: know what was gonna happen. But still to your point,
Speaker 1: you know, it was everyone else was just laughing at
Speaker 1: the concept of this that oh, by mid January, he'll
Speaker 1: just be rolling into another year. Instead, it was a
Speaker 1: total debacle back then. Yeah, now it's fine, because everything's
Speaker 1: fine in March. I like Mark's version of history. Yeah, well, no,
Speaker 1: I damn a check. They may not even make the
Speaker 1: playoffs next year. I just don't see this guarantee that
Speaker 1: they're gonna roll in thirteen and three. Yeah, I think that.
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna I could see him potentially
Speaker 1: having a final Brett Farve type year. I could see
Speaker 1: him struggling, and well, then they will not make the
Speaker 1: play I think they're one of the favorites to win
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl again. But I do like how you
Speaker 1: twist this history, because what the history I remember is
Speaker 1: right after Peyton Manning went down in flames in the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and then maybe the next show even after that, you
Speaker 1: were basically throwing a ticker tape parade for itself that
Speaker 1: you got the pixing right little early. Alright, No, I said,
Speaker 1: I always said I got it half right. But it
Speaker 1: is just the scoffing that went on when I made
Speaker 1: this pick in August, you know, the nose up in
Speaker 1: the air from all three of you, utter scoff and
Speaker 1: then it went to the brink. All right, that's a
Speaker 1: good way to look at it. That's like the Jets
Speaker 1: losing by a field goal to the Patriots twice, Steel
Speaker 1: too lost that it is what it is, right all right?
Speaker 1: So let's uh, why don't we before we get to
Speaker 1: Brandon Flowers, who should be coming in any minute. I
Speaker 1: just wanted to um run something by U West. You
Speaker 1: did not like daft punk as a as a potential
Speaker 1: celebration song. Uh, not my kind of And I get
Speaker 1: that I like that song, but you know, I feel
Speaker 1: like we should all be on the same page. One
Speaker 1: of our listeners and uh follower on Twitter, Peter Squires
Speaker 1: at Peter Underscore Squires. Uh, he chimed in with an
Speaker 1: idea that I thought was great, So, uh, gold standard.
Speaker 1: Let's let's pitch this one to the group as and remember,
Speaker 1: first of all, let's play what we've been using, which
Speaker 1: is being retired alright cool in the gang? Alright, I
Speaker 1: got retired in It's over for cool, tired for thirty
Speaker 1: five years. Okay, So here is Peter Squires this idea
Speaker 1: which I I'm over the moon about. This is how
Speaker 1: we do it? Says how we do it? The great
Speaker 1: Mantell Jordan's this is how we do It's that's top five,
Speaker 1: one of the great party jams of the mid nineties. Greg,
Speaker 1: you seem to be on the phone. Yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I'm on board. I like it. I don't think we
Speaker 1: have to have just one, so I'm good with that
Speaker 1: rotation seem the only one unsure maybe I know. I
Speaker 1: feel like I went to seventy five high school dances
Speaker 1: where that was like the thing, and you know, I'm
Speaker 1: a little over it, but it's it works. We are
Speaker 1: missing one of the top ten songs in the history
Speaker 1: of music. What gold standard can you find? That's not
Speaker 1: how it works? Back there, it looks like minutes for
Speaker 1: Dan to get this on the board. By the way,
Speaker 1: can you find Rob Base and DJ Eazy? All right,
Speaker 1: well that's a request for another show. Let's make because
Speaker 1: that can promise. I mean, that might be the great.
Speaker 1: I like seeing it's in West's mind to see how
Speaker 1: he thinks the show works. I can just pull it
Speaker 1: up and someone has it hooked into the main friends.
Speaker 1: It's almost like, yeah, but yeah, let's uh, we'll put
Speaker 1: that in. We'll listen to it. Yeah, Well, everyone comes
Speaker 1: up with a new one every show. A couple other
Speaker 1: ones I had, by the way, tell me what you
Speaker 1: think about this one? Sorry, very celebratory. That's more of
Speaker 1: a threat now, all right, all right? And then I
Speaker 1: had one more. This one. This is obviously not celebration,
Speaker 1: but I thought we could use it a lot for
Speaker 1: Mark and I. I think you could use the previous
Speaker 1: Mark you well, if you know, if we have enough
Speaker 1: trink that was inappropriate coming from you. It's for Mark
Speaker 1: and I for the Jets and Browns this season. I
Speaker 1: thought this might work. Yeah, that could work. I would
Speaker 1: thinking of out you know, round Halloween time. We've probably
Speaker 1: lost multiple thousands of listeners over the last fifteen seconds,
Speaker 1: but why not just a little fast forward to get
Speaker 1: through that, you know, noise grading? All right? So uh
Speaker 1: all right, thanks Mark for your input on the show.
Speaker 1: Uh so, yeah, those are some options, and I'm happy
Speaker 1: that Montell Jordan is one of them. That's good. I
Speaker 1: like it. Td uh excuse me, gold standard behind the
Speaker 1: glass work. I can see the resemblance so yeah, by
Speaker 1: the way, Zach Dressler behind the glass, I went and
Speaker 1: got a drink with him and Damna Shack. Zach Dressler's
Speaker 1: last days. Three drizzles this week. I'm gonna miss you, buddy,
Speaker 1: phenomenal guy. Phenomenal guy, Drizzles, A legend, z Drizzle. You're
Speaker 1: gonna come back to the NFL media group. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: if you guys greet me the way you just greet
Speaker 1: a gold Steam when you guys gold Steam Jewish guys
Speaker 1: that work here, are you allowed to say that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Are you in the tribe? Come on, you have to
Speaker 1: be in the tribe to be able to drop that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I'm I'm like a rigid I'm an
Speaker 1: o G. My dad's an no G of the tribe,
Speaker 1: born in Israel. That's the real deal. All right, So Zdrizl,
Speaker 1: we will. We're all gonna give you big tidy man
Speaker 1: hugs after the show to see you off. All right,
Speaker 1: Enough of this, though, Let's get Brandon Flowers in here.
Speaker 1: I see him coming in the door right now. Uh,
Speaker 1: the great cornerback for the Chargers heading towards free agency.
Speaker 1: Let's talk to him, all right. We have a very
Speaker 1: special guest in the studio. He is a He's a
Speaker 1: Charger's cornerback. Maybe maybe not for long. We'll find out
Speaker 1: in about a week or so. He is the great
Speaker 1: Brandon Flowers. Welcome to the Around the NFL Podcast. Brandon,
Speaker 1: those thanks to have him. It's been a long day
Speaker 1: for you already. You were we were talking before the
Speaker 1: show five am. Wake up. You got in at one
Speaker 1: thirty or something. But you just love talking with us
Speaker 1: so much. You had to get right. I had I'm
Speaker 1: youthed to account of I just had my first little girl,
Speaker 1: so she sleep two holes out of the day anyway,
Speaker 1: So I'm right with you. I just had my second kid,
Speaker 1: so it's been a rough couple of months. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So Brandon, this is obviously a big time in your life.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, you have a baby girl. That's good.
Speaker 1: You're entering free agency where it's starting on Tuesday. Where's
Speaker 1: your mind at right now as you approach the start
Speaker 1: of free agency? Is is there a lot of trepidation?
Speaker 1: Are you're looking forward to? Where are you at? I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to it because in my mind, I mean,
Speaker 1: you only hit free agency once if you love you twice,
Speaker 1: and I'm in a good place because the team that
Speaker 1: I love in the San Diego Charge if we're not
Speaker 1: trying to negotiate a deal right now, so I would
Speaker 1: love to go back to San Diego. That would be
Speaker 1: my first choice, of course, But if it doesn't happen,
Speaker 1: it wouldn't be bad to go to the market and
Speaker 1: go to a team that also wants you to come
Speaker 1: in and you know, help the team try to win
Speaker 1: a ring. So it's it's a win win from me
Speaker 1: right now. I feel. Do you kind of feel like
Speaker 1: with the deal you signed last year with them, you're
Speaker 1: almost betting on yourself and hoping to get back out
Speaker 1: into the free agent market a year later, and if
Speaker 1: you did, like, how do you think that worked out
Speaker 1: for you? I think I think it worked out good.
Speaker 1: You know, it had been better. If we had a
Speaker 1: playoff run and went from it will work even better.
Speaker 1: But putting myself in that position to go to San Diego,
Speaker 1: I knew what kind of team they had and I
Speaker 1: felt they're the best fit for me and my personality
Speaker 1: and everything like that. And I loved it from the
Speaker 1: time I stepped foot in San Diego until now, like
Speaker 1: I love every single moment of it. So you can't
Speaker 1: have any regrets if you loved everything about it, all right.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not somebody that likes to make things weird.
Speaker 1: That's not true. I do like to it's weird. And
Speaker 1: I just want to point out that NFL dot Com
Speaker 1: we come up with a top a hundred and one
Speaker 1: free agents list every year, and when I say we,
Speaker 1: I don't really mean we. I mean Greg Rosen thought
Speaker 1: of my right, Chris Westling to my left. You're at
Speaker 1: number twenty one, which is a nice spot out at
Speaker 1: one on one. It's a good spot. But free agents,
Speaker 1: if you think about it, okay, okay, all right, but
Speaker 1: I just want to say that it does not put
Speaker 1: you as the number one cornerback in the market. Brian
Speaker 1: Byron Maxwell from Seattle was listed at number nine. Can
Speaker 1: you please tell these chumps why they're wrong? Let's uh,
Speaker 1: you know, First off, let me say I like Byron
Speaker 1: that that's like my little brother were trained together every
Speaker 1: so I never want to say anything bad by Byron.
Speaker 1: He's a great range of corner that can go out
Speaker 1: and play ball. But myself, you know, um, I've been
Speaker 1: playing in this league seven years now and I had
Speaker 1: six great years and one good year. You know, so
Speaker 1: the film is there. I think it's on tape that
Speaker 1: I can play outside. I can play slot whever you
Speaker 1: need me. I can go back to safe wherever you
Speaker 1: need me. I can back the safety I can I
Speaker 1: can do. I love Yeah. Some some deeper back coaches
Speaker 1: don't like the fact that I love to hit all
Speaker 1: the time because they tell me they don't want me
Speaker 1: to get too banged up. But I'm utility. Whatever you
Speaker 1: need me to play, I can play, and I feel
Speaker 1: like I can play at a high level. So I
Speaker 1: can do. I can do a lot of stuff and
Speaker 1: bring a lot to a defense. I think it was
Speaker 1: really Westling that I don't know I had. I had
Speaker 1: you number one overall appreciate. No one ever asks me
Speaker 1: this stuff. You were actually on the NFL a m
Speaker 1: when you were up zombie style at in the mid
Speaker 1: all the morning, early in the morning, you said that
Speaker 1: the cornerback is just as important as the quarterback. And
Speaker 1: I like that, hot take. Let's hear why you think that,
Speaker 1: Because if you don't have a cornerback in this league,
Speaker 1: no matter how great your pass question, the ball is
Speaker 1: getting out in three seconds. I don't care if you
Speaker 1: have justin Houston, Tom bal Lee, Donican, Sue, whoever you
Speaker 1: have on the deal line, they can't get there. It's
Speaker 1: just impossible getting that fast. So you gotta have someone
Speaker 1: that will hold up, you know, and um, they're just
Speaker 1: a value. You don't want to go into zones anymore
Speaker 1: because quarterbacks are so smart and officer coordinators are so
Speaker 1: smart and beating the zone you can every zone has
Speaker 1: a zone beata. So the best way to beat these
Speaker 1: top teams just getting their face mino mino match a
Speaker 1: man and man. So the more corners in the top
Speaker 1: corners you have at that position, uh, that's gonna win
Speaker 1: your ball games in this league. Now, well, the last
Speaker 1: two Super Bowl champions Aid Durrell Revs And Richard Sherman,
Speaker 1: and they had a lot of that bumping around. Do
Speaker 1: you think like quarterbacks are getting rid of the ball
Speaker 1: faster than when you came in the league, Like that's
Speaker 1: been a trend going around. It's Uh, I want to
Speaker 1: say they're getting rid of it fast. I think it's
Speaker 1: because you play the guy who gets rid of it
Speaker 1: the fastest. Peyton Manny a couple of times. I mean
Speaker 1: even his deep balls. Like I was saying, earlier, like
Speaker 1: two steps and it's gone, you know. So if you
Speaker 1: get beat off the line, there's it. But it's just
Speaker 1: it's strategic, you know. I think Aaron Rodgers and guys
Speaker 1: they like to hold onto the ball a little bit,
Speaker 1: let the route developed, and if it's not there, they
Speaker 1: can still fit in the tight windows or run. So
Speaker 1: I did. I think it depends on what quarterback you're
Speaker 1: playing to how comfortable they fill in the pocket. Brandon,
Speaker 1: are you a television fan? I am television? Did you
Speaker 1: buy any chance I had to ask you about this?
Speaker 1: Did you watch a True Detective on HBO? I haven't. Okay,
Speaker 1: first of all, you should watch it, binge watch that
Speaker 1: you have some time after you make your multimillion dollars
Speaker 1: signing in. Life is good with your baby girl and everything.
Speaker 1: But just to let you in on a little inside
Speaker 1: running joke within the Around the NFL podcast. Every time,
Speaker 1: and I mean every time your name comes up on
Speaker 1: the show, which is you know what, every every couple
Speaker 1: of weeks or every month or so. Were the official
Speaker 1: team of the Around the NFL podcast, they were, So
Speaker 1: your name came up a lot. This is what we
Speaker 1: play every time it comes up. You want to make
Speaker 1: flowers that. So, now, without any context, you have no
Speaker 1: idea what that means. I have no doubt. But when
Speaker 1: you do watch You Detective and you get to the
Speaker 1: season finale of that show and you find out what
Speaker 1: that drop is attached to, just think, think of us
Speaker 1: status and I cannot believe that you're associating with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta make shot. Look at I hope I can
Speaker 1: go straight to the West as an HBO go password
Speaker 1: there we go. Alright, so let you go. If you
Speaker 1: don't go to the Chargers, do you have any feel
Speaker 1: of some teams that might be a little interested in you? Nahum, Artstown.
Speaker 1: I guess uh that that's what the team's Uh. That's
Speaker 1: when I started visiting, and we'll see where it goes
Speaker 1: from there. But yeah, just right now, I'm saying I'm
Speaker 1: going back to San Diego. I just a live football
Speaker 1: if it's not San Diego, like wherever I go. Of course,
Speaker 1: I like to be compensated for what I do. But
Speaker 1: I love football, so it doesn't matter what team I'll
Speaker 1: go to. It sounds like somebody wants to stay with
Speaker 1: the child I know. It sounds like that's going back
Speaker 1: to San Diego and here's the other good news. After uh,
Speaker 1: Brandon reups with the Chargers, and after he catches up
Speaker 1: on two Detective, and after the Chargers moved to l A.
Speaker 1: That's I'll come here and we'll watch season two of
Speaker 1: two Detective together. We'll be glorious. All right. That's it.
Speaker 1: Brandon Flowers, thank you very much for joining us. I
Speaker 1: know you're gonna continue your way through the NFL Network
Speaker 1: car wash today on your way to our flagship program,
Speaker 1: Total Access, but thank you for stopping by around the
Speaker 1: NFL Podcast. I'm definitely enjoying its. Flowers and there goes
Speaker 1: Brandon Flowers. Mark you you sat that out, You're on
Speaker 1: the other side of the glass. Your thoughts, Well, we
Speaker 1: have a studio here that's only set up with four
Speaker 1: mix and so someone's got to take one for the team.
Speaker 1: I sitting out there, I thought number one a lot
Speaker 1: of good information generated by three hard hitting journals. Um,
Speaker 1: I thought it sounds like and we said, it sounds
Speaker 1: like he's coming back to the Chargers, but he wants to.
Speaker 1: I mean, the Charger should bring it back. He was
Speaker 1: really good for them much it was signing. It was great.
Speaker 1: It tons of cap room. Do it? Get her done?
Speaker 1: All right, it's time. It's time to talk about Go
Speaker 1: get my lunch, idiot. It's another option, go get my lunch, clown.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, So we're gonna free agency edition. We haven't
Speaker 1: done this in a while. When's the last time we
Speaker 1: did it? It was it before the playoffs? Who knows?
Speaker 1: I think it was before the marches on and on
Speaker 1: nothing ever stops. Uh yeah, but we did it last year.
Speaker 1: Thing free agents. So we'll each take turns, will make
Speaker 1: a prediction. Everyone, including the Great gold Standard, can jump
Speaker 1: in and and take the sandwich proposition, a high octane sandwich.
Speaker 1: And and Mark, just real quick, you you wish it
Speaker 1: could be something other than sandwich. Is you're not a
Speaker 1: big food fan. I don't sit around, uh you know,
Speaker 1: salivating of the idea of some something of food item.
Speaker 1: And it's like the whole contest is centered around something
Speaker 1: I don't really care about. I can buy you a
Speaker 1: book for the same price as a sandwich. I like that.
Speaker 1: Go get my book. I choose your own adventure paperback
Speaker 1: or something. Go get my Amazon purchased book Octain Hard
Speaker 1: Boiled Detective Story. I've never met a person that has
Speaker 1: such a distaste for food as you Greg has the
Speaker 1: calls mark of food atarian. It's just a lack of interest.
Speaker 1: How about this if in this game, this could be
Speaker 1: just the private thing, or anyone else can jump in
Speaker 1: if you want to trade in your your sandwich, which
Speaker 1: will set it about six to eight dollars for a
Speaker 1: tasty beverage at a local hoole. Uh Now I feel
Speaker 1: more galvanized to participate. I like it. Um all right,
Speaker 1: here we go. So we're gonna go one at a time.
Speaker 1: I guess I'll start it. I'll throw Oh, we'll start
Speaker 1: with the overall ones where it's just more like a group,
Speaker 1: and then we'll get specifical go one at a time.
Speaker 1: And again, gold Sander, you can get it on this
Speaker 1: even ze drizzle if you want to get in on this,
Speaker 1: because I really hope you are back here in a
Speaker 1: few months so and we would love your sandwiches too.
Speaker 1: We always take advantage of whoever is behind the glass.
Speaker 1: They're always suckers. They get killed, especially when they're just
Speaker 1: wrapping up their work responsibilities for a while, especially when
Speaker 1: they're very little money, especially when they're questionably informed about
Speaker 1: the sport al. Right, first one here we go, just
Speaker 1: like last year. The first signing. So it's one pm
Speaker 1: Eastern time Tuesday, correct, is when the free agency period
Speaker 1: signing period begins one pm Pacific, So excuse me, four
Speaker 1: pm Eastern Tuesday is when you can officially be signed
Speaker 1: to a contract. I I imagine how this game works,
Speaker 1: the football game. I mean a lot of this stuff
Speaker 1: is taken care of before and they're just bang announced.
Speaker 1: The question is what is the first Who is the
Speaker 1: first signing that gets announced by one of the Either
Speaker 1: it's a team, does that to be a team announcement
Speaker 1: or can you first one by an insider or someone
Speaker 1: we deemed to be a old reporter that we can
Speaker 1: count on and trust. The first name to come across
Speaker 1: our tweet deck, we'll go around the horn. We'll start
Speaker 1: with Mark Sessler going Julius Thomas m hmm. Do you
Speaker 1: have a prediction on a team Raiders? But we don't
Speaker 1: have to, then you don't have Just for the heck
Speaker 1: of it, I'll go Raiders, Okay, Julius Thomas West kind
Speaker 1: of out of left field here, same team pot roast
Speaker 1: to the Raider like that, did you nail this last
Speaker 1: year too? No? I have Brandon Albert. Last year you
Speaker 1: had a big Arthur Jones. Uh, I nail where Jon
Speaker 1: was gonna go. Pot Rose has been whispered to them
Speaker 1: for that makes sense. Okay, I will go with Tory Smith.
Speaker 1: He somebody will be locked in on him. I'll have
Speaker 1: something worked out. Tory Smith first off the board and
Speaker 1: I'll save the team. Okay, very good? All right? Next
Speaker 1: the next overall prop most guaranteed money outside Dominican su
Speaker 1: Who's gonna get a lot as we know, possibly the
Speaker 1: most ever guaranteed money? Uh? For a defensive player? Who
Speaker 1: will get the most guaranteed money? Mark going Jerry Hughes.
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes defensive n West. This is a tough one. Donation,
Speaker 1: This is a tough one. I'm going off the board again.
Speaker 1: I'm going to mike you potty. Wow, that kind of
Speaker 1: that makes sense. It's this was a great uh, because
Speaker 1: really you could have come up with ten pretty good
Speaker 1: options other than here's why did you just kill mine
Speaker 1: right before you got the Hughes. Here's why West is
Speaker 1: smart too? Not a great market for interior alignement. So
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna They're gonna could be a feeding frenzy.
Speaker 1: You know what. Thank you for giving me that much credit.
Speaker 1: I didn't put that much thought into it. And five
Speaker 1: names listed and like that one, I will go with
Speaker 1: the off forementioned Julius Thomas, who's gonna get a big
Speaker 1: fat contract by some foolish team like the Jaguars that
Speaker 1: will pay him to be a superstar, but he won't be.
Speaker 1: I feel great about this one Byron Maxwell. I think
Speaker 1: that's I think he's got a good chance. And then uh,
Speaker 1: finally and uh and gold Center, you want to jump
Speaker 1: in on ene of this? Just us no final one? Yeah,
Speaker 1: warm up the water first. Uh. And finally, even before
Speaker 1: we get into our individual propositions. Uh. And Dominicans sue,
Speaker 1: where will he? Land Mark Sessler? This is tough. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go Lions, Nice West, I'm gonna go Dolphins. I think, um,
Speaker 1: he wants to be in a place where you can
Speaker 1: build his brand. And Stephen Ross, the Dolphin's owner, has
Speaker 1: been dying for superstars and name brand athletes there in Miami,
Speaker 1: so he's taking his time automatically dislike athletes that make
Speaker 1: decisions based on building their brands. And let's talk about this,
Speaker 1: but that's where you go to build your brand. Miam. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I will, I will go with the Oakland Raiders. Uh,
Speaker 1: I was gonna I would have picked this rather or not.
Speaker 1: Michael Silver's report came out today, But now I'm even
Speaker 1: feeling a little more confident. Michael Silver says, they potentially
Speaker 1: have a visit set up. They're gonna throw a lot
Speaker 1: of money ad them. They need, they need to help,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna get a lot from the Raiders. Be
Speaker 1: sad if Sue went from the lines to the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Who kind of career? I can use Oakland's leverage. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go Miami as well. West really put it well.
Speaker 1: I can just imagine, and he was my pick for
Speaker 1: the four oh one sign. I can just imagine like
Speaker 1: a picture of like Mike Tannenbaum with his arm around
Speaker 1: Sue in Miami. Big money Wow, even if the Hicks
Speaker 1: there doesn't even get with a big power play in
Speaker 1: a spot. Sorry, you're out, friend of the show, Mike Tannenbaum. Alright,
Speaker 1: that's good, All right, let's go. Let's start. Now, let's
Speaker 1: go with our individual ones. And so basically how that
Speaker 1: last section worked. Now, if we hit any on any
Speaker 1: of those individually, everyone owes that person a sandwich except
Speaker 1: for the Dolphins prediction there. I guess Mark and I
Speaker 1: would both divvy up sandwiches. Yeah, okay, so now we'll
Speaker 1: start half a sandwich. Yeah we could do that too.
Speaker 1: You know, you can always fudge the numbers. Here we go.
Speaker 1: We'll start now with our individual ones. I'll get going
Speaker 1: with this one. I've been uh sneaky confident that this
Speaker 1: could happen, uh for a while now, so I'll throw
Speaker 1: it out here in this spot. Darrell Revus released by
Speaker 1: the pet Of course I'll take it. Of course I'm
Speaker 1: going and take that. Who all right, So West, you're
Speaker 1: taking it. Maybe i'll jump in with the next. By
Speaker 1: the way, take track your own, uh, your own props here.
Speaker 1: We have our friend on Twitter, um check your own
Speaker 1: that can help us out. But we should have our
Speaker 1: own bookmaking. So West, well, I'll jump in because I
Speaker 1: have a revous related one. You might as well just
Speaker 1: get it out of hang on, hang on, everyone's everyone's
Speaker 1: keeping taking I'll take I'm taking it. Okay, I'm not
Speaker 1: participating yet. I'm gonna wait to drop the ball on
Speaker 1: you guys. You haven't paying attention. Mark has been paying attention.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm typing all this. I've got it all
Speaker 1: figures his previous mistakes. You're too cautious. Mark famously the
Speaker 1: worst at this game. But this could be changing. It
Speaker 1: could be out thinking himself. Now, I'll take alright now,
Speaker 1: I'm really hoping ever see you again. Okay, that's that's nice.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a Revs one, so i'll go next.
Speaker 1: Mine was going to be that the Patriots keep Throll
Speaker 1: Revs and Devin mccordy, a'll stay in the fold. I'll
Speaker 1: take that. I'll take that. They would have they would
Speaker 1: have franchised one of them. They're going to keep them both.
Speaker 1: They can't refranchise Revis. Well, I was gonna do mccordy
Speaker 1: back to the patch, so I'm not taking this one.
Speaker 1: I had that as one of mine as well, so
Speaker 1: I'm not touching that. So you but that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: they're both. Do you think they'll both? Look, I don't
Speaker 1: think he's going to the Jets, So talking about the
Speaker 1: throne of the if he gets if Reeves gets to
Speaker 1: the open market, he's going to the Jets, and I
Speaker 1: don't think that's happen. There's some different opinions. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm very happy. I'm gonna get a sandwich and revs
Speaker 1: lest they just block their mccordyn, get a sandwich and
Speaker 1: ree Essentially, I'm getting two sandwiches from you now and
Speaker 1: Durrell reevs, or you'll go hungry and not have a cornerback.
Speaker 1: Dan has had a good instinct for this game. The
Speaker 1: longer the shot, the better He's done the end of
Speaker 1: Manzel Cowboys one he had Inconnito coming back into the
Speaker 1: leagal Oh, don't forget about our boy came right, and
Speaker 1: yet somehow I still ended up as the as the
Speaker 1: on the plus SI, you're in the past, you're all right.
Speaker 1: Who's up? Who's up? Mark? All right? I will go
Speaker 1: with one. Brian Hoyer inks a contract with a new
Speaker 1: team before Jake Locker. Yeah, I don't care. I don't
Speaker 1: want to. I don't care. Yeah, that's a weird one.
Speaker 1: It's a weird one. Marks after a tough starter. Well,
Speaker 1: that's all right, Bryan Hoyer in a contry, because there's
Speaker 1: no way to like. That doesn't mean one is better
Speaker 1: than the other, or it's hard to that's like a
Speaker 1: straight gas. That's tough. I don't that's fine because I
Speaker 1: think they're both equally in demand. I guess, so it's
Speaker 1: I'm saying they're not. Why who do you think they'll
Speaker 1: send first? I wanted a former addiction and give me
Speaker 1: a little juice, you know. But Greg finally acknowledges his
Speaker 1: past issues. I'm not even gonna take it, though, because
Speaker 1: because of the same reason, it just seems who cares. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't see how you would have any knowledge that
Speaker 1: could tell you ahead of time. Yeah, that's how how
Speaker 1: to vote on this one. And if you had said
Speaker 1: Hoyer more guaranteed money or more money, that would be
Speaker 1: a different type of thing. All right, well, thank you, gentlemen.
Speaker 1: This game couldn't be any more pleasurable or fun to
Speaker 1: play with. You people, you people, You're up. Christopher Adrian
Speaker 1: Peterson does not play for the Vikings. I'll take that.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a close. I'll take that because my
Speaker 1: my next one was gonna be Adrian Peterson stays with
Speaker 1: the Vikings, might as well just jump in against. I'll
Speaker 1: take that to you have a lot of similar similar
Speaker 1: ideas here. I don't know. Just when I saw Peterson
Speaker 1: at his home answering the door in the strange outfit
Speaker 1: of a white undershirt with stress pants. You had your
Speaker 1: theory on though, What was your theory? Well, he was
Speaker 1: getting ready. He must have been getting ready and and
Speaker 1: Zimmer and he's like, oh, no, Spielman's here and he
Speaker 1: just had to put something on quickly. There is like
Speaker 1: what he really you had another theory? You had enough.
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't say my theory. He releases his statement,
Speaker 1: doesn't say anything about how much he, you know, likes
Speaker 1: the vikings and things are fine now. He just hugged
Speaker 1: the general manager. Yeah, and then stuck him into back
Speaker 1: and said, I'm going to the cowboys. Well, by the way,
Speaker 1: what could Adrian Peterstond have possibly talked about for four
Speaker 1: hours with them? Well, it might have taken that long.
Speaker 1: I think it was an airing of grievances. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: like festivals, all right. I will go and put myself
Speaker 1: out on a limit a lit about this one. But
Speaker 1: it's about having fun. That's what this is all about.
Speaker 1: DeMarco Murray signs with the cults. I'll take that. I
Speaker 1: also will take that. This is truly a problem for
Speaker 1: me because my my whole theory on this game, as
Speaker 1: you take everything basically bet you always take the field.
Speaker 1: But on NFL dot com right now, we have our
Speaker 1: best of free agency on the site, and my fit
Speaker 1: was de Marco Murray to the Colts. I didn't see that,
Speaker 1: but I'm feeling quite the conundrum. I guess I'm gonna
Speaker 1: have to pass. It feels go against my own best fit.
Speaker 1: It would be great, that is, unlike you, all right,
Speaker 1: West and Mark, all right, I'll go with the c J.
Speaker 1: Spiller will not wind up with the Jets. I'll take that.
Speaker 1: You think he's going to the Jets. I think he's
Speaker 1: going to the Jets. I don't think he's going to
Speaker 1: the Jets. Am I giving Mark too much credit? That
Speaker 1: he's made these ones that come up, so that will
Speaker 1: never take them and he'll just sort of stay out
Speaker 1: of the game. Might have been a strategy. I actually
Speaker 1: have C. J. Spiller's signs with the Jets as one
Speaker 1: of my jets. I don't think he'll be with the Jets,
Speaker 1: so that we don't have a deal, then, okay, I
Speaker 1: got one. OHO's he drizzle all right? The Raiders yet
Speaker 1: Cobb and Julian Julius, Thomas Evan Cover, Randall, Randall, Cobb
Speaker 1: and Julius Thomas. I'll take you on that I've got
Speaker 1: I've go taking you to. Yeah, we're all taking. I
Speaker 1: will love people from the other side of the glass
Speaker 1: getting what happened? Did you eat? Gold Standard? Where? Why
Speaker 1: are you insulting my weight? You are right the gold
Speaker 1: Standard hate me? You know what, I'm just gonna go
Speaker 1: back to edding the podcast not gold Standard. So we
Speaker 1: all took that. We're all taking. You gotta have quick. Yes, dude,
Speaker 1: that was a record that gets rid of my proposition
Speaker 1: that Cobb and the Packers will beat the deadline. I
Speaker 1: will throw one out there just because it kind of
Speaker 1: ties in with Sean McCoy and c J. Spiller swap places.
Speaker 1: I think that c J. Spill is gonna end up
Speaker 1: in Philly. Oh, I'm all over that. He just got
Speaker 1: rid of a guy who dances too much. He's not
Speaker 1: gonna take someone who bounces everything to the outside. I
Speaker 1: could see him going there. But well, they the Eagles
Speaker 1: actually talked to the Bills about trading for Spiller way
Speaker 1: back when. But that was when Howie Roseman media c J.
Speaker 1: Spiller go to Oregon. Is that could at me in
Speaker 1: a bad spot. I will take that one, okay, Mark Mark,
Speaker 1: Are you taking nick them off? Spiller to Eagles. Yes,
Speaker 1: I'll take it all right, thank you for the same
Speaker 1: because the sandwiches. All right, who wants jumping? I'm looking
Speaker 1: for it in marks? Everyone one, we none of us
Speaker 1: take all right? Everyone, save your best you've got tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying we're doing one more, but I'm saying
Speaker 1: save your best one. Okay, I'm throwing one out the
Speaker 1: Falcons signed either Brian A. Rack Po or Derek Morgan.
Speaker 1: That's interesting, the Falcons. I hate to throw it back
Speaker 1: at you, but I'm not sure I'm interested enough. Well,
Speaker 1: I think this one you could do some studying on
Speaker 1: and figure it out, but I'm not quite prepared at
Speaker 1: this moment. I don't want to make any bet based
Speaker 1: on Brian Rackpo. We're just any scenario, just sandwich dock,
Speaker 1: little sandwich stock dunking sandwiches. Are you just You're just
Speaker 1: kind of This is kind of like your Arthur Jones
Speaker 1: one this year. Now, I've got a few of these
Speaker 1: west Is trying to mail manus right now. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take you. I'll take it to I'll take
Speaker 1: it to again. This is the thing people the more
Speaker 1: bets you take, or excuse me, the more propositions you take.
Speaker 1: More sandwich does he get that's what the history of
Speaker 1: the game is. I shouldn't have given that strategy away.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, a super sleuth there, let's do two more each.
Speaker 1: Murry you mentioned earlier, I'm gonna say de Marco Murray
Speaker 1: gets less guaranteed money than Pernell McPhee and I chose
Speaker 1: those two because you know, I agree with a lot
Speaker 1: of people, know McPhee, and I think you're right. I
Speaker 1: got news where you nobody's taking this one. But Greg,
Speaker 1: you killed me for a boring Ye that was excited. Yeah,
Speaker 1: way to go out on a limb. But how about this.
Speaker 1: People just like their cars skinting off the road as
Speaker 1: the words came out of your mouth. And we're talking,
Speaker 1: let's talk more guaranteed money. Byron Maxwell gets more guaranteed
Speaker 1: money than Randall com Well. I said he was going
Speaker 1: to get the most. You're I'm inside your head right now.
Speaker 1: I'm walking around stretching and put my feet up on
Speaker 1: your white couch thinking I'm not a y'all couch. I've
Speaker 1: already made more bets than all of the times we've
Speaker 1: done this combined. But here, I'll take this proposition to
Speaker 1: keep saying it, you will take it. Yeah, I'll take
Speaker 1: Cob over Maxwell and guaranteed. All we had to do
Speaker 1: was change the sandwich to uh liquid. You know, I'm Jennings.
Speaker 1: On the sixth day, I'll throw out, Oh no way,
Speaker 1: you said save the best one. I don't really all right,
Speaker 1: I got one left. Personally, I've got a couple left.
Speaker 1: This is my Authur Jones one, Jason Worlds signs with
Speaker 1: the Eagles. Now that one has been whispered a little bit,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting this one out. If he just he said
Speaker 1: it's his Arthur Jones, I'm not gonna go against it.
Speaker 1: That means he's very confimdated. Now I'm just playing this.
Speaker 1: I'm a little intimidated too, because this one has been
Speaker 1: whispered Worlds one Westwood and pitched. If he was really
Speaker 1: confident in it, and I'm not as confident as I
Speaker 1: was in Arthur Jones last year. This is an act too.
Speaker 1: Now he's said he was pulling back last year. I
Speaker 1: was really confident about Arthur. In fact, I have another
Speaker 1: Arthur Jones one. I feel like I need to just
Speaker 1: take this. It's almost like you know, he's the first
Speaker 1: day in jail. You gotta beat up that next steps guy.
Speaker 1: I don't want to just mentally give in to you
Speaker 1: by so I'm just gonna take it. Oh you just
Speaker 1: fell for it, Unna keep jack of who's taking these
Speaker 1: forty Niners? Will sign Jerome Simpson wide receiver. Alright, uh confession.
Speaker 1: They popped up on tweet deck like ten minutes ago.
Speaker 1: I started, all right, let's do uh West. You had
Speaker 1: two more, do one more and then we'll do our
Speaker 1: last one each. Al Right, here is the real Arthur
Speaker 1: Jones one. I'm not gonna do that. Either either Pernell
Speaker 1: McFee or Frank Gore will sign with the Colts. It's
Speaker 1: got involved the Colts to be the Arthur Jones. Well,
Speaker 1: I think McPhee makes a ton of sense for the
Speaker 1: same reasons that Jones did that you gave on last
Speaker 1: year's podcast, the ties with Pagano, etcetera, etcetera. So staying
Speaker 1: away from the West, Sorry, I'm gonna take take it West.
Speaker 1: Although look and now I Google I probably shouldn't. This
Speaker 1: is almost cheating, But of course there's a cult. Parnell
Speaker 1: McPhee post on Rhoda World. They're very very interesting. I'll
Speaker 1: take it anyways, because I don't I don't think you're
Speaker 1: gonna have the magic follow Rhodo World. Okay, I'll go.
Speaker 1: I'll go with Greg on this. I'm gonna get Greg's boat,
Speaker 1: all right, all right, guys, so let's do one more
Speaker 1: now each and I see the gold standers starting to
Speaker 1: he's grinned. Now. I think he's he's ready to throw
Speaker 1: it out there. But actually, let's do that. Let's throw
Speaker 1: it to gold standard. Let's hear he he Last year
Speaker 1: he predicted wrongly that Golden Tate would sign with the Titans,
Speaker 1: if I if I'm correct, I don't so you thought
Speaker 1: he was going to leave the NFL entirely. It's the
Speaker 1: pride of Hendersonville, Tennessee. This was, But why would you
Speaker 1: sign with the CFL team? I don't understand. I would
Speaker 1: throw the heat thing out, but it's a little he
Speaker 1: got that wrong. And you know, but in keeping with
Speaker 1: that theme, you gentlemen in probably seven actually very shortly,
Speaker 1: will probably receive four lovely sandwiches for this golden tape bet.
Speaker 1: But now that we're all you did, we're all good.
Speaker 1: I'm saying it'll happen again, because there's no way I'm
Speaker 1: correct on this. But Golden Tate last year finished with catches.
Speaker 1: I'm predicting that Golden Tate will amass a century of receptions.
Speaker 1: I will take that too. I'm all over the for all.
Speaker 1: Were supposed to be a free agency sand That's okay,
Speaker 1: it's now extended the right by then you're working who
Speaker 1: knows where? For me? These are golden it's it's and
Speaker 1: I feel really good about this. Eric Ebron. You think
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a bigger role, Calvin Johnson, he stays healthy.
Speaker 1: You have a bigger role in the offense you think
Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take it together, all right. I hope
Speaker 1: you enjoy the sandwiches. I like your confidence, all right.
Speaker 1: Last one and this one. I sat downstairs for the
Speaker 1: for one kind of really you know, hanging your onions
Speaker 1: out to dry. It's gross, but do that really get
Speaker 1: gutsy throwing out there? And we'll start with Mark because
Speaker 1: I'm curious where Sessler's at because he was grinning at
Speaker 1: that computer desk. Well, that could have been about anything,
Speaker 1: but listen this you said it could be related to
Speaker 1: free agency number one. So Cleveland went out and signed
Speaker 1: a free agent quarterback in Josh McCown. My bet is
Speaker 1: that with Johnny Manzel not a bet tucked away. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna keep saying it to Annoy tucked away and you know,
Speaker 1: promises in Malibu wherever he is right now, Josh McCown
Speaker 1: does not start Week one, So once again, this is
Speaker 1: sort of more of a seasonal that. Yeah, we talked
Speaker 1: about even downstairs. It could be free agent. I'll take it. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: They gave him a lot of money to be a
Speaker 1: bridge guy to manz Oh is not ready, not even
Speaker 1: living at his house right now. I have so little
Speaker 1: faith in Josh McCown that you have both fallen into
Speaker 1: my trap. I think the Browns fell into the trap.
Speaker 1: I'll take it to just by principle, Okay, I love it. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna have their quarterback one an old
Speaker 1: buddy of Josh McCown, Jay Cutler, will not be a
Speaker 1: member of the Chicago Bears. Mm hmm. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the end date is this. I'll give you well,
Speaker 1: they've got to cut him before that reality is it's
Speaker 1: off off by the time he's practicing. You say he won't,
Speaker 1: I think he will be I think they have and
Speaker 1: it's the draft. Really, I think that staff one will
Speaker 1: be one more staff to get sucked into saying we
Speaker 1: could fix j Cutler. And I think this is supposed
Speaker 1: to be the one. You know a little. It's respect
Speaker 1: it and I will take you up on it. Okay, No,
Speaker 1: I'm not taking it. If I was running the Bears
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't quarterback from me. Mark. I will take
Speaker 1: it because there's so little else out there, all right.
Speaker 1: That's why I think they can find someone for him.
Speaker 1: Maybe the Jets Christopher Westling, please know. Oh well, this
Speaker 1: is a hanging onions, one little hang them onions. We
Speaker 1: can get this sponsored by Vidalia. Let's see. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go back to the Colts again. They've been good to
Speaker 1: me in this game. That's where Brandon Marshall ends up.
Speaker 1: I'll take that. I'll take it. I'll take that too,
Speaker 1: all right. That wasn't very onion z. But it's not.
Speaker 1: It's not like creative. But it is a long shot,
Speaker 1: all right. And finally, this, I mean, this is onions.
Speaker 1: I didn't even really do the math. I just kind
Speaker 1: of threw it out there and maybe if it takes
Speaker 1: out I'll be happy. You should take it. Dominquin Sue
Speaker 1: gets more guaranteed money than all of the running backs
Speaker 1: in our top one on one list combined. So that
Speaker 1: is eleven guys. De Marco, Murray, mark Ingram, Ryan, Matthews,
Speaker 1: Ryan's art. It's kind of a fun Spiller. Spiller's first
Speaker 1: name on Blank House D excuse me, Ran Frank or
Speaker 1: it stands for Chech Jerry, Carl Spiller, Frank Gore, uh
Speaker 1: Shane Vereen for set, Reggie Bush, Ridley Halloo, Thomas, Pierre Thomas,
Speaker 1: all eleven. Add them up. They will have less guaranteed
Speaker 1: money and and Dominican Sue will get from well, I
Speaker 1: think the Raiders, but could be anybody. Could be upwards
Speaker 1: of sixty million from what I understood. It hurts my brain.
Speaker 1: That's how you do it. That's how you play this game.
Speaker 1: You play to wean the game. I think it's I'm
Speaker 1: so non math oriented that I'm like, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not willing to take this. I need to go down
Speaker 1: and work on it on paper. Listen, this is an
Speaker 1: onions hanger, but it's probably in some to some degree. Matthews,
Speaker 1: this is great radio, by the way. Yeah, it's cut
Speaker 1: this tramatic standard. Hello gets like negative guaranteed money. Well,
Speaker 1: really your first year is guaranteed. So it's like if
Speaker 1: Hello signs a one year, three million dollar contract, that's
Speaker 1: you know, three, So really you gotta think what's the average.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna take it. I think Sue
Speaker 1: will talk. Sue's gonna get more than sixty probably, right,
Speaker 1: that's what you're saying. I don't know, but I've read
Speaker 1: that somewhere it could he could top that. Yeah, I've
Speaker 1: got these running backs tabulated right, upper forties, low fifties.
Speaker 1: I think Murray maybe gets ten, very rudimentary for guaranteed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've got Murray at ten and Spiller slightly blow ten.
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good about this because if you've got your
Speaker 1: onions hanger and nobody takes it, and then you hopefully
Speaker 1: you'll clean up on other people's anything, that's that's how
Speaker 1: you win this game. Maybe well above strategy on you,
Speaker 1: But then maybe you weren't really hanging. They weren't really
Speaker 1: Oh come on, that's a good hanger right there. I
Speaker 1: just said one guy would make more than eleven others.
Speaker 1: We all agree with you. I think we agree it
Speaker 1: was a good It was a good one, though, he's saying.
Speaker 1: In his addition, he says sixty to fifty or something,
Speaker 1: and that's it could be anywhere. It's very close. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have no idea. It's all rudimentary now, and now
Speaker 1: you've just inspired me to just take it good him,
Speaker 1: I don't care it's good. I still want I don't
Speaker 1: like this self satisfied air. That's still happy. It was
Speaker 1: the best of one. I'm happy about it, alright. That's it.
Speaker 1: Those are the propositions. Are who's our friend on Twitter,
Speaker 1: by the way, who tracks all these things work? We
Speaker 1: got to send him something. He should tell us how
Speaker 1: it's pronounced four tier or four tier? Nick, you shoot
Speaker 1: us a tweet or d m a your favorite team.
Speaker 1: You gotta get you something. You do so much work
Speaker 1: for us. Uh, you're a great man, gold Center. Don't
Speaker 1: worry about that. We'll have TD do it all right.
Speaker 1: So that's it for go get my lunch, moron. Uh.
Speaker 1: We will be back on Monday, is that correct? Uh?
Speaker 1: That is the eve of free agency. So make sure
Speaker 1: you gotta make sure you tune in for that one
Speaker 1: because there's gonna be some stuff cooking over the weekend,
Speaker 1: a lot percolating before everything goes down on Tuesday, so
Speaker 1: we'll be there Monday, and then we'll have a show
Speaker 1: that wraps up the first day of free agency on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and then we'll be back at the end of the
Speaker 1: week and that will interest closer to win West's Toaster also,
Speaker 1: which is coming back, so keep keep on sending in
Speaker 1: submissions for that. This is Dan Hansas signing off for
Speaker 1: Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Boss, the gold standing behind
Speaker 1: the glass, and one last time, Z Drizzle, We love
Speaker 1: you buddy. Until next week.