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Speaker 1: Hawks stands. Welcome back to another edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansus, and I
Speaker 1: am joined by a room filled with heroes teaming with
Speaker 1: heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling and Greg Rosata. What's up, boys,
Speaker 1: I know what is that? Teaming? Teaming? I mean, we're
Speaker 1: all together. You haven't had many of these. I'm excited
Speaker 1: for this show, Mark talk. We've had hundreds of the
Speaker 1: Mark took some heat on Twitter a couple of days
Speaker 1: ago for not being in. Somebody said that you were
Speaker 1: the Johnny Carson of the show, and I thought that
Speaker 1: was a little I think it's misunderstood that if we're
Speaker 1: not here on a Monday, it's because we're on vacation.
Speaker 1: It's actually because we work on Saturday, the weekends and whatnot. No,
Speaker 1: I'm excited and I've been looking towards This show in
Speaker 1: particular is the one that Mark is going to lead
Speaker 1: the way. He's had a key to this whole podcast.
Speaker 1: We're talking about leadership skills. To your time, Mark, alright,
Speaker 1: let's do it. I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where that's coming from all right by
Speaker 1: I'm excited about Mark today. There is a salty Sessler
Speaker 1: in the air, and you never know what happens, and
Speaker 1: and t D I would say, keep on your toes.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, when that happens, everything's up in the air.
Speaker 1: Here we got we got a big show today, big
Speaker 1: big show. We were gonna get Bucky Brooks back in
Speaker 1: here because as we get closer and closer to the draft,
Speaker 1: you want to talk to a guy that's plugged in
Speaker 1: and who's more plugged in the Bucky Brooks are big
Speaker 1: time college football analysts and he knows a lot about
Speaker 1: the pros too. He played in the NFL, so we'll
Speaker 1: get him in here to talk. We're gonna go through
Speaker 1: Greg who's you know, Shepherd's this group. He retired into
Speaker 1: a meeting with several shadowy league figures and came up
Speaker 1: with an entire UH free Agent Superlatives UH breakdown for
Speaker 1: us to go through day by day where we're breaking
Speaker 1: down all different elements of free agency and the post
Speaker 1: that we put up on Wednesday the best fits in
Speaker 1: free agency and also the best under the radar fits.
Speaker 1: So we have that up on the website and by meeting.
Speaker 1: You mean I basically copied and pasted what we did
Speaker 1: last year. Let's do this. A good musician never never
Speaker 1: reveals the secrets. Uh. And then of course what we
Speaker 1: always do, we we do the news, so we check
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Speaker 1: going on? Guys? Are we doing? We're doing good? Good?
Speaker 1: You know? Yeah, but I'm fine. Let's do it. Let's
Speaker 1: set that is all right, let's do it. I want
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Speaker 1: to know your audience, and your audience in this case
Speaker 1: is not of listeners case, it's us. We don't know
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Speaker 1: it's up to you, guys keep the world updated on
Speaker 1: the NFL world, and it's up to us keep you
Speaker 1: guys up culture. Yeah, trust me, I know what's going
Speaker 1: on pop culture. But you don't force feed us the
Speaker 1: superhero because who could Who would hear about this this
Speaker 1: big indie movie, The Avengers without you promoting it? By
Speaker 1: the way, the latest because there's been too many of them. Well,
Speaker 1: it's been two trailers and this is the third one.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize our podcast audience is eight year old.
Speaker 1: Well they are, according to wes you know, just saying.
Speaker 1: But by the way, man, I do like that one.
Speaker 1: Let's let's start be better to come up. Let's start
Speaker 1: with Lashawn McCoy. The big news that broke on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy out of Philly traded to the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 1: for Kiko Alonso, the linebacker. One of the biggest, you know,
Speaker 1: player for players swaps we've seen in and years, perhaps
Speaker 1: a decade, going back to Mark I think you pointed
Speaker 1: it out on Twitter. It was exactly ten years to
Speaker 1: the day prior that there was the big Clinton portist
Speaker 1: for Champ Bailey trade. So now Lashawn McCoy headed up
Speaker 1: to Orchard Park, Kiko Alonso to Philly. Start with Chris
Speaker 1: Wesling who won this trade? I I think both teams won,
Speaker 1: but I really I know the Eagles caught more flak
Speaker 1: for it, and I see this from their point of view,
Speaker 1: and to me, Chip Kelly is sort of in a
Speaker 1: situation where Bill Belichick was when he came to New England.
Speaker 1: He's going to institute his system, he's gonna make unpopular moves.
Speaker 1: But twelve million dollars against the cap for a running
Speaker 1: back who declined across the board last year, and to me,
Speaker 1: I mean he averaged. Greg had this stat earlier in
Speaker 1: the day. Of the nine team players with two fifty touches,
Speaker 1: he had the lowest per touch average in the NFL
Speaker 1: four point three yard for touch Darren Sproules average seven
Speaker 1: point four behind the same offensive line. He just wasn't
Speaker 1: as productive as he needed to be to be drawing
Speaker 1: twelve million dollars against a cat. I don't think any
Speaker 1: running back is. I think that's part of it is
Speaker 1: that that they must have asked. There must have been
Speaker 1: some conversation behind the scenes where they said, listen, you're talented,
Speaker 1: we want to keep you around, but not at that
Speaker 1: price tag. And they balked, and NFL Media's Michael Silver
Speaker 1: says that they called up the bills and the conversation
Speaker 1: was twenty minutes long. That's how great is that. That's
Speaker 1: how it should be. That's terrific. It's like, we like
Speaker 1: Kiko Alonso and they're like, really, we could get McCoy. Hey,
Speaker 1: rex you like lost. Yeah, yeah, let's do it like
Speaker 1: that was pretty much it. You know, one thing I
Speaker 1: think is a little unfair. I know McCoy wasn't as
Speaker 1: good last year, but he's still I think he's gonna
Speaker 1: be as his age twenty seven season coming up. Uh
Speaker 1: do Isn't It seemed a little premature to say that
Speaker 1: he's in decline and sometimes players don't always have uh
Speaker 1: they can't top each year prior, and he was the
Speaker 1: best running back in the lead two years running before
Speaker 1: this best season, which was still total yard uh season.
Speaker 1: He wasn't a bad running back and behind a line
Speaker 1: that used eleven lineman last year, they were not what
Speaker 1: they were the year before. That was a factor. That
Speaker 1: was a factor, and that's why I think it is
Speaker 1: a win win. I don't think that's so crazy. We
Speaker 1: don't have to have a hot take. I think Philly
Speaker 1: has the safer side. It's hard to see this going
Speaker 1: too poorly for them because I think Chip Kelly believes
Speaker 1: he can plug in another running back into his system
Speaker 1: and have it work. And I kind of believe it too.
Speaker 1: I mean, he got rid of the Sean Jackson. He's
Speaker 1: creating yards. It's a deep running back crop in the
Speaker 1: draft and free agency. I think that'll be fine, But
Speaker 1: it wouldn't shock me if Lashawn McCoy continues what has
Speaker 1: so far been on track for a Hall of Fame
Speaker 1: consideration type of career. We don't. We don't think of
Speaker 1: McCoy like that, and he's gonna have to keep going
Speaker 1: in this trajectory. All I'm saying is, if you look
Speaker 1: at his six first years in the league, he's been
Speaker 1: one of the twenty five, let's say, best players at
Speaker 1: any position. And so if you're gonna be and take
Speaker 1: a risk with the guy, It's not like his salaries
Speaker 1: that crazy. It's eight million dollars a year. Both the
Speaker 1: Eagles and the Bills have plenty of cap rooms, so
Speaker 1: they could fit that in, and it's it's not crazy
Speaker 1: to imagine McCoy having two really good seasons with them.
Speaker 1: I think this trade is about resource allocation. You know
Speaker 1: you have a competitive advantage allocation corporate Chip Kelly's offensive
Speaker 1: system gives them a competitive advantage, So why not allocate
Speaker 1: your resources to defense, sir? They know need they need
Speaker 1: to overhaul the secondary. You put Keiko Alonso along with
Speaker 1: Michael Kendricks. You have possibly the Leak's fastest inside linebacker duo,
Speaker 1: and you've got a good defensive line, so you build
Speaker 1: up a better defense and put all your money on
Speaker 1: that side of the ball. And we know that he
Speaker 1: values We've heard this over and over the last spring
Speaker 1: for hours. It's quarterbacks and offensive lineman is what he
Speaker 1: puts his That's where he wants his money if anything.
Speaker 1: And it is interesting though from a from an angle
Speaker 1: of is he under pressure like Belichick was to some
Speaker 1: degree even in that first Super Bowl season in New England,
Speaker 1: they got off to a bad start and people wanted
Speaker 1: the chick's head. And if it happens in Philly in
Speaker 1: two back to back seasons where you've left to Sean
Speaker 1: Jackson and Lashawn McCoy walk out the door, if you
Speaker 1: get off to an ugly start, people in that city
Speaker 1: are crazy. But they would no matter what in Philly.
Speaker 1: That's why I love Chip Kelly. He doesn't care, he
Speaker 1: doesn't care about taking the criticism. He he just does it.
Speaker 1: He has a strong vision and a singular philosophy, and
Speaker 1: that's why I think he's similar to Belichi that But
Speaker 1: the one thing is, and I've talked about this about
Speaker 1: him being the genius and and no one can outthink
Speaker 1: the great Chip Kelly. Uh but let's just let me
Speaker 1: because calm down a little bit. He hasn't shown anything
Speaker 1: in the NFL beyond a couple of decent seasons. So
Speaker 1: if I'm an Eagles fan, I'm not getting I'm not
Speaker 1: completely all in a Chip Kelly definitely making the right
Speaker 1: decisions here. He's hanging his onions here a little bit,
Speaker 1: and I respect that, and I think Greg it's part
Speaker 1: of the reason why you like what he's doing here,
Speaker 1: because he he doesn't care what other people think. But also,
Speaker 1: this is pretty risky. You're giving away the best deep
Speaker 1: threat in the league arguably last year, and now you're
Speaker 1: getting rid of one of the best running backs of
Speaker 1: his generation in this year. He took over a bad team.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they had talent, but they weren't
Speaker 1: a winning team. And he's won ten games with him,
Speaker 1: so I think you have to give them credit. He
Speaker 1: turned Nick Foles and Mark Sanchez and anyone that can
Speaker 1: turn quarterbacks that are mediocre into very useful quarterbacks. I
Speaker 1: think that's a legit skill. We have seen it. Not
Speaker 1: to worry, he's got Riley Cooper locked up for five
Speaker 1: million a year bottom line, though it is risky also
Speaker 1: to go into a season paying or running back twelve
Speaker 1: million a year. If they went to him and tried
Speaker 1: to say, let's do something here and he wouldn't do it,
Speaker 1: they almost had no other move than to move than
Speaker 1: well that was the LEAs summer trade him. I I
Speaker 1: don't agree with that. If they if McCoy had a
Speaker 1: good year and he ran the way that Chip Kelly
Speaker 1: wants his running backs to do it, which is a
Speaker 1: little more north south. I think it was a lot
Speaker 1: about McCoy not really having a great season, not being
Speaker 1: great along the goal, and I think you'd pay him.
Speaker 1: It was eight was something going on because he Bruce
Speaker 1: arians on nfl Am said, oh we we knew that
Speaker 1: this was there was something going on here. I think block, yeah,
Speaker 1: they were looking to trade him, But I think it
Speaker 1: was more about how McCoy played than it even was
Speaker 1: about the salary, because eight million dollars is not that crazy.
Speaker 1: They have fifty million dollars now in cap room. If
Speaker 1: he was if he was one of the best two
Speaker 1: or three running back in the league, thought he was lost.
Speaker 1: Everything ties back to money and I think this ties
Speaker 1: back to money in a large way. What about Kiko Alonso,
Speaker 1: by the way, do we want to talk about him
Speaker 1: at all? Yeah? Yeah, I just want to say real quick,
Speaker 1: it goes beyond what both of you guys said money
Speaker 1: and how he played, because Ladanyan Thomason and Ian Rappaport
Speaker 1: both said Lashawn McCoy and Chip Kelly the relationship was
Speaker 1: strained by the end of the year. They just weren't
Speaker 1: getting along. McCoy didn't like Kelly's practice schedule and thought
Speaker 1: his legs weren't good enough shape on game day. I
Speaker 1: mean with Alonso, Kelly's getting a guy that he's coached
Speaker 1: before that's shown he can be great at the NFL level.
Speaker 1: And West mentioned that Kendricks and Alonso is going to
Speaker 1: be the identity of that defense, those two guys in
Speaker 1: the middle flying around. I mean, that could be pretty fun.
Speaker 1: The thing I'd worry about if I'm an Eagles fan
Speaker 1: is man Chip Kelly has a lot of power like
Speaker 1: he We know he's a good coach, but I don't
Speaker 1: know that he's a good GM. They spent a lot
Speaker 1: of the last couple of weeks cutting guys that Chip
Speaker 1: Kelly signed. Not just that Howie Roseman signed James Casey.
Speaker 1: Not big time sign is carry williams uh Todd Harriman's
Speaker 1: was was that Howie Roseman Bradley Fletcher they had no
Speaker 1: interest in. Let's see Tip Kelly's wildly aggressive. I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna spend like crazy and they're gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Cut more of their own players, Reggie
Speaker 1: Mackenzie or Chip Kelly. But a battle from Buffalo's side though,
Speaker 1: it's easy to see why they got rid of Alonso.
Speaker 1: They have linebackers coming out of their ears, and they
Speaker 1: want David Harris in free agency. So you've got Preston
Speaker 1: Brown and Nigel Bradham, who both played like above average
Speaker 1: starters last year, and if they moved to a three four,
Speaker 1: those two guys would be ticketed for the inside, not
Speaker 1: the outside. And then David Harris is also an inside linebacker.
Speaker 1: And let's give credit to Connor Or, our New Jersey
Speaker 1: based correspondent, who was on this very podcast two days
Speaker 1: ago and said that Rex Ryan has the ability to
Speaker 1: get gms to act, maybe not impulsively, but to make big,
Speaker 1: splashy moves. And that's exactly what happened I mean they
Speaker 1: haunted soul. Well they don't have a quarterback. What was
Speaker 1: that the shot that is going to be especially funny
Speaker 1: in three years they play that like when they introduced
Speaker 1: the Matt Castle trade. Well, we're gonna get to Castle
Speaker 1: in a second. When you don't when you don't have
Speaker 1: a quarterback, you have to make everything else as amazing
Speaker 1: as it can be. And on paper, at least this
Speaker 1: Bill's team with Rex Ryan and all that defensive talent
Speaker 1: and now adding McCoy to a skill position group that
Speaker 1: was already pretty fun. I mean, that is a fun
Speaker 1: looking team in Buffalo. Before before Greg gets too excited
Speaker 1: about the Bills, so let's talk about the quarterback trade
Speaker 1: was agreed to only gonna make me Mark on Wednesday. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, there was no secret the Bills have been
Speaker 1: looking to upgrade the position, or at least find an
Speaker 1: alternative to E. J. Manuel. They try to get Josh McCown,
Speaker 1: but you know, the Browns wanted him too bad. Mark.
Speaker 1: The Browns wanted to get mccount in their building, so
Speaker 1: they signed him. Talk about it team that always swings
Speaker 1: for the fences. So the Bills instead they would hit
Speaker 1: the trade market and they land Matt Castle from the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings uh in exchange for some deep deep draft
Speaker 1: picks and next year and this year and the Vikings
Speaker 1: now are excuse me, the Bills now have what we
Speaker 1: assume is their starting quarterback for the season. Matt Castle
Speaker 1: will be the guy. Mark you're shaking your head. Why well,
Speaker 1: part of me a little bit is like, wait, you
Speaker 1: you are the This almost feels like when the Browns
Speaker 1: drafted Manzel. Then the Josh Gordon news hit like twenty
Speaker 1: four hours later. It's like, you have made the trade
Speaker 1: that has the NFL talking, and you're exciting. We were
Speaker 1: talking about Rex Ryan Lashawn McCoy and then bang, hey,
Speaker 1: guess what your quarterback is Matt Castle. So all of
Speaker 1: Buffalo suddenly back in a major midwinter de Prest disagrees.
Speaker 1: You know, Tweeto Domond, tweet o d over here, Weston
Speaker 1: Sessler are on NFL now just killing this year. How
Speaker 1: could they do this? Of course t D yeah, d
Speaker 1: D bounce. They gave up nothing in the trade, so
Speaker 1: it's basically a free agent pick up. It only cares
Speaker 1: about the soundbites. That's all he's They're paying him the
Speaker 1: same amount of money or less that Chad Henny and
Speaker 1: Matt Moore and plenty of backups have made over the
Speaker 1: last few years. And it's my advantage. And obviously you
Speaker 1: disagree that the difference. I would take Castle over McCown
Speaker 1: and Hoyer and even Jake Locker in their situation. I
Speaker 1: think Castle is a better option than those guys. But
Speaker 1: to my larger point, what is the difference between all
Speaker 1: those guys. They had to sign someone, They had to
Speaker 1: pick up a veteran. So if you're you know, saying,
Speaker 1: oh Man Sanchez, that was the way that they were
Speaker 1: really going to get it done. It's like we were
Speaker 1: killing every one of these quarterbacks and all you're saying
Speaker 1: is he's He's the best of a bunch of You
Speaker 1: have to do something. You have to pick up someone,
Speaker 1: so I can't kill him. Kyle and Buffalo, You're gonna
Speaker 1: love Kyle Orton light Because Matt Castle was benched for
Speaker 1: Brady Quinn two years ago. The Chiefs decided at the
Speaker 1: end of the year they would rather watch that was
Speaker 1: a different situation. They were losing. They wanted to see
Speaker 1: what Quinn could do. Give him his first chance. Ever,
Speaker 1: Castle was not work, which tells you what what they
Speaker 1: thought of Matt Castle, who One of my favorite quotes
Speaker 1: and collusion low crossers, WENK Martindale, the old Broncos defensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: said Matt Castle couldn't hit black beauty in a field
Speaker 1: of white mice. I still don't get that. Well, if
Speaker 1: he can't spot black beauty in the field of white mice,
Speaker 1: how is he gonna find an open receiver so he can't? Oh,
Speaker 1: he sees it. I thought it was more like an
Speaker 1: accuracy thing. I think that's included in it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's about reading the field. It's hard to keep up
Speaker 1: in a good quarterback heard Wink Martindale. Yeah, what a
Speaker 1: what a vanguard of quarterback evaluation telling that guy is
Speaker 1: where is he at right now? I'm just I don't
Speaker 1: know why I'm taking chat a lot of shots the
Speaker 1: tweedledee tweels Greg. Let's open the floor up for an
Speaker 1: apology right now that I I officially apologize, I guess
Speaker 1: I was not offended, but I was preemptively attacking you
Speaker 1: guys because I knew you you both hate Matt Castle
Speaker 1: with an behind the scenes at the I've already been
Speaker 1: arguing for hours about that at the News desk before
Speaker 1: while right while Mark and West are doing their NFL
Speaker 1: Now hit, and I was with Greg and I wrote
Speaker 1: up the post. Greg even said like, you know, because
Speaker 1: he was happy. He thought it was a good deal
Speaker 1: for the Bills. And he's like, oh, I know West
Speaker 1: is gonna come back, and you know bury this sure enough,
Speaker 1: the first thing West gets back, he's something just taking
Speaker 1: down Matt Castle. So this was all in the stars.
Speaker 1: Gregg has this image of the Bills. There's a fascinating
Speaker 1: fun team to watch. You can't pay me to watch
Speaker 1: Matt Castle play quarterback. They're gonna be boring to watch.
Speaker 1: Here his reality. He was five and four with a
Speaker 1: lousy Vikings team a couple of years ago, and he
Speaker 1: had a couple of good a couple of really good starts,
Speaker 1: one with I think forty points against the Eagles, four
Speaker 1: hundred yards against the Steelers. He's good enough to play
Speaker 1: six or eight decent games. I think he's slightly better
Speaker 1: than the other. Yeah, I mean, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: But we knew that there was there was no one
Speaker 1: out there. Go trade for Mike Glann and go trade
Speaker 1: for Kirk Cousins. Let's talk about a slightly better quarterback.
Speaker 1: His name is paid Manning. He's gonna be on the
Speaker 1: Denver Broncos, most likely. ESPN's Chris Mortenson reports that Manning
Speaker 1: has agreed to take a four million dollar pay cut,
Speaker 1: reducing his salary from nineteen million UH in two thousand
Speaker 1: fifteen to fifteen million, which, uh, Greg will start with you.
Speaker 1: You were initially under the belief that there's no way
Speaker 1: that Peyton Manning would take a pay cut. This isn't confirmed,
Speaker 1: this is a report, but it looks like he might
Speaker 1: have been. Perhaps that will clear the way for some
Speaker 1: signings for the Broncos and they could shake and Baker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm eating Crow on that one. More power to
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning that he would do this. I expect when
Speaker 1: we see the details that he'll be able to make
Speaker 1: the money back in incentives. There's some sort of bonuses, pac.
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I'll have to have a great season
Speaker 1: or off to play stay healthy for sixteen. We'll see.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying we don't know the details, but more
Speaker 1: power to him. It helps out the Bronco. It's not
Speaker 1: like it's it's a bad move, and it makes sense
Speaker 1: all along, and it was always unfair to me, by
Speaker 1: the way, just as an a side that when Tom
Speaker 1: Brady signed those deals that were you know, tricky how
Speaker 1: you actually can figure out what how much he was making,
Speaker 1: and Peyton Manning was painted as this selfish guy. You know,
Speaker 1: he's just getting paid. He's trying to get the paid
Speaker 1: mostly ken. Hopefully now people give the guy respect for
Speaker 1: taking a pay cut, did actually take less money than
Speaker 1: a lot of quarterbacks. We're supposed to respect him now
Speaker 1: because he did something in response to everyone criticizing him.
Speaker 1: But that's that's the way. And I think Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: tom Brady's contract is greg you were saying in the
Speaker 1: in the cafeteria today. He ended up getting plenty of
Speaker 1: money with his deal too. It's not like he was
Speaker 1: still a competitive advantage for the Patriots, whereas Mannings was
Speaker 1: not a competitive Bradys was just a little misleading and
Speaker 1: that he did take more short term money. It's like
Speaker 1: he got a raise on the the initial years on
Speaker 1: the contract that was there, but then he tacked on
Speaker 1: years where he was a total bargain. And any quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in general are underpaid. So I don't think you can
Speaker 1: paint paint what Peyton Manning did for Indianapolis and what
Speaker 1: he's done for Denver. He's not made enough money, right,
Speaker 1: So I not to mention killing him on that front,
Speaker 1: not to mention that Papa Ginos or Papa John's commercial
Speaker 1: he'll make up that four million and uh two creepy commercials.
Speaker 1: To me, it's like, all right, what are your priorities?
Speaker 1: You're thirty nine years old, You're only playing to win
Speaker 1: a super Bowl. You've made more money than any player
Speaker 1: in NFL history. What are your priorities? Do you want
Speaker 1: to win a super Bowl? Do you want to give
Speaker 1: your team the best chance to win a super Bowl?
Speaker 1: Then take a pick, cup Dan. You made an interesting
Speaker 1: point though that you thought the Broncos have had Manny
Speaker 1: over a barrel, really that they sort of had the
Speaker 1: leverage in this situation, which was interesting that that implies
Speaker 1: that they were ready to cut him. I think they were.
Speaker 1: They knew that. How that's really interesting. I just want
Speaker 1: to know more about I don't think that they were
Speaker 1: prepared to cut him, but I think that they knew
Speaker 1: that what could he really do? They were gonna back
Speaker 1: him in the corner. It's like, listen, take a pay
Speaker 1: cut man, and then his options then were to ask
Speaker 1: for his release and start fresh at age thirty nine somewhere,
Speaker 1: or uh not just take the money and force them
Speaker 1: to pay him. Then you look like a selfish guy.
Speaker 1: I mean that. I think they were in a good
Speaker 1: spot and Manny had no choice but to copulate. I
Speaker 1: think John Elway is one of the most headst wrong individuals.
Speaker 1: You had no problem moving on from Tim Tebow copulating.
Speaker 1: Copulating would have been a weird movie. You did well,
Speaker 1: I have the real story, that's you're you have a
Speaker 1: great point though, on Elway. On Elway well, the copulation
Speaker 1: we had to at least sorry, I thought maybe I
Speaker 1: should note that. I just think it's I I do
Speaker 1: think that the Broncos if it came to an ugly,
Speaker 1: you know, head to head thing, they would have moved
Speaker 1: on from from potentially and like it's absolutely that they
Speaker 1: would have just let him dictate the scenario at all.
Speaker 1: If John Elway was the kind of want to stare
Speaker 1: down like that and he was ready to move, I mean,
Speaker 1: he really is the man I don't know he got
Speaker 1: he got Peyton Manning to go there. He's made a
Speaker 1: lot of gutsy moves, but but making one of the
Speaker 1: greatest quarterbacks of all time take a pay cut and
Speaker 1: having sort of a game of chicken where they're almost
Speaker 1: threatening to cut him at and they don't resign Julius Thomas.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a little peeved about that, right. They
Speaker 1: have a lot of guys who do who else do
Speaker 1: they have Ortlanta Franklin they want to give to Marius
Speaker 1: Thomas contract, Raheem More, Terence Knight, And there's about five
Speaker 1: or six Broncos in our top one list, which, by
Speaker 1: the way, we've now put into a fancy new look
Speaker 1: on NFL dot com and you can go to NFL
Speaker 1: dot com slash free agents. Let's check that out and populated. Uh,
Speaker 1: moving forward, this is the news. They came down Tuesday
Speaker 1: evening Andre Johnson or Monday evening, Andre Johnson has been
Speaker 1: granted permission to seek a trade from the Texans. The
Speaker 1: Texans approached Johnson said, You're not gonna have the same
Speaker 1: role in this offense anymore. You might catch forty balls
Speaker 1: instead of eighty next year. Andrew Johnson said, what trade
Speaker 1: me or cut me? And uh, from what we're hearing, greg,
Speaker 1: trade is probably not gonna happen. So Andre Johnson is
Speaker 1: gonna end up hitting free agency finally after I feel
Speaker 1: like we've been writing uh, Andrew Johnson's landing spot post
Speaker 1: for two years. Mark did right when last year and
Speaker 1: it holds up very well if you read it right now.
Speaker 1: All the teams you put on the landing spots market
Speaker 1: pretty much all apply. Yeah, that's what we're Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: talking about this morning, Like for for two, two or
Speaker 1: three years, Andrew Johnson was talking about how he wasn't
Speaker 1: happy here here and there, and now finally this is
Speaker 1: the end of this partnership after twelve years or whatever.
Speaker 1: What's what? What's the last I don't know. I'm just
Speaker 1: laughing for no reason. All right, that's good. That's good.
Speaker 1: That's a good podcast. Uh So, Greg Mr funny Bone
Speaker 1: explained to us where Andre Johnson fits in the NFL
Speaker 1: landscape in two thousand fifteen. I think he'll get a
Speaker 1: and this is sad to say because it's Brian, I
Speaker 1: mean it's under your I think he'll get like a
Speaker 1: Brian heartline. He'll he'll be right around the heart line
Speaker 1: in terms of in terms of contract, which is like
Speaker 1: what six seven million dollars a year. I think he'll
Speaker 1: get more than Steve Smith got last year. For sure,
Speaker 1: I think teams will look at him as a solid
Speaker 1: legit starter. I mean there's a million teams that would
Speaker 1: want him, right, I think only certain teams really though,
Speaker 1: would he? Would he ever entertain going to It's got
Speaker 1: to be a Seattle Seahawks, potentially Greg's team, the Patriots,
Speaker 1: who Dan hates whenever he's mentioned in a free agent
Speaker 1: but reality that's always seemed to come up up. It's
Speaker 1: because when we talk about big names that are at
Speaker 1: the end of their career that want to win a
Speaker 1: sup Bowl ring, there's a short list of teams. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna take a risk and go to the Bears.
Speaker 1: Here's one that kind of I think it's interesting. Dan's
Speaker 1: favorite team, the San Diego Super Chart. Their borderline contender,
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is a great quarterback. They don't have a
Speaker 1: number one receiver. Really, I think that might make sense
Speaker 1: good they have some mark You have a thought on this,
Speaker 1: don't you know? On the Seahawks. Oh, we just mentioned
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. I was too busy looking up the charges roster.
Speaker 1: Can you play anymore? Though? I mean there are numbers
Speaker 1: beyond just the statistics that per target. He was one
Speaker 1: of the least effective receivers. He was targeted almost constantly
Speaker 1: in the red zone whenever Houston got down there. One touchdowns, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's never had ten touch ons and season, um, you know.
Speaker 1: So it's just one of those things where be careful though.
Speaker 1: If you signed Andre Johnson, I think you're getting two
Speaker 1: thousand eight Andre Johnsons, You're not. I I think they'll
Speaker 1: be careful of evaluating him when you know Ryan Mall
Speaker 1: and Ryan Fitzpatrick and Tom Savage are throwing him the ball.
Speaker 1: That kind of like Steve Smith. But I think he
Speaker 1: has a little more juice left. And Steve Smith was
Speaker 1: a really good pick up for the Ravens. Overall, I
Speaker 1: think Johnson has a little more juice left than Smith
Speaker 1: did a year even just two years ago and it
Speaker 1: was short lived, but him in case Keenum looked good
Speaker 1: on some of those deeps. I mean, they found a
Speaker 1: way to get him more involved when the right quest
Speaker 1: was in there. No, I I agree with Mark and Greg.
Speaker 1: You have to think about the quarterbacks. And it was
Speaker 1: his first year in Bill O'Brien system. Maybe Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: just didn't want to emphasize can he succeed though away
Speaker 1: from case Keenum, that's a good question. I think you
Speaker 1: could ask that about a lot of wide receivers. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Troy Paula Malu. NFL media insider Ian
Speaker 1: Rappaport reported Wednesday that the organization the Pittsburgh Steelers believe
Speaker 1: the celebrated safety has played his last game him uh
Speaker 1: for the Steelers. According to two team sources, UH, the
Speaker 1: defender is not in the Pittsburgh's plans for two thousand
Speaker 1: and fifteen. The only question is how the exit will
Speaker 1: play out. Will he retire, will he be forced to
Speaker 1: release him? And if that happens, will Troy Palmo trying
Speaker 1: to continue his career? West is Troy Palmo, Troy Polamalu shot?
Speaker 1: I think he is, and I think, um, we saw
Speaker 1: that in the Ravens playoff game when he was watching
Speaker 1: from the sidelines as Will Allen, a journeyman took his
Speaker 1: spot on the field, and you know, and I think
Speaker 1: he's just a liability and coverage now and it's not
Speaker 1: his fault. He played with abandon his entire career and
Speaker 1: his body's failing him. I don't like that the Steelers
Speaker 1: want him to retire. I get where they're coming from.
Speaker 1: They want to put a nice bow on this and
Speaker 1: make it nice and neat, and he'll retire as a Steeler.
Speaker 1: But you know, if he still wants to play, what
Speaker 1: about Dick Lebo down in Tennessee taking him a Nike
Speaker 1: tailor and having them come in and teach that defense.
Speaker 1: What is it with the Steelers always like trying to
Speaker 1: force people to retire by the way, you know, they
Speaker 1: tried to work with Bruce Area. They tried to do
Speaker 1: it with Bruce Arians and then were we read we
Speaker 1: read today Ed Bouchette was they're very hopeful that Paula
Speaker 1: Mally will retire so they don't have to release him.
Speaker 1: But they have as many salary cap problems as any
Speaker 1: team in the league, and the deadline to get under
Speaker 1: it is Monday, so it seems like he's going to
Speaker 1: be released in the meantime. Ian Ian our NFL media insider,
Speaker 1: I referred to him that is earlier, so on second match, okay,
Speaker 1: just call me interrap Well I hadn't mentioned it though,
Speaker 1: So okay, I feel like I don't want to give
Speaker 1: him his due. There is an answer to the question.
Speaker 1: He he he thinks that Paula Mally will retire if
Speaker 1: the Steelers cut him. Basically, there's an answer to the
Speaker 1: question you asked, why are the Steelers always trying to
Speaker 1: do this. They're not some mega conglomerate corporation running the team.
Speaker 1: It's a family run team and they consider this kind
Speaker 1: of stuff valuable that his legacy would be only with
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers. I'm not saying it's right or wrong,
Speaker 1: but that's why they That's good some dry cleaning operation
Speaker 1: on the corner. I mean, how much money are they
Speaker 1: making by now? They've has to be figuring it out.
Speaker 1: They definitely put a lot of stock and in there
Speaker 1: that this has only ever been in the Rooney family
Speaker 1: and it's a family run and I think the players
Speaker 1: know that. Don't you think they have points on Kate
Speaker 1: Morrow's acting career that that's probably dollars coming in. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. And Um, finally, Randall Cobb and
Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers, this is I mean, this is crazy. Mark,
Speaker 1: is this really gonna happen? That Cobb and the Packers
Speaker 1: are not going to get a deal done? Uh. Cobb's
Speaker 1: agent Jimmy Sexton has rejected the Packers offer of a
Speaker 1: five year deal worth eight million between eight and nine
Speaker 1: million annually, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. Getting closer
Speaker 1: to free agency where a lot of teams are gonna
Speaker 1: be very interested in Randall Cobb. Are they're gonna botch this.
Speaker 1: They gotta stay together. I don't know if it's a
Speaker 1: botch because it may not be the way that they operate.
Speaker 1: They I think they just handed a giant contract to
Speaker 1: Jordy Nelson, who they don't want to have Cobb's contract,
Speaker 1: you know, supersed that by a big amount. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of money to pour into a position group. And
Speaker 1: if Cobb, you know, he's about to hit the free
Speaker 1: agent market and someone wants to go crazy and now
Speaker 1: bid him. And I think Cobb knows the teams like Oakland,
Speaker 1: Jacksonville or what he could potentially break the bank for him,
Speaker 1: that he's not going to agree to UH Town friendly
Speaker 1: green Bay friendly deal. I hope common sense prevails here.
Speaker 1: They need each other. The Packers have watched uh They've
Speaker 1: had the rate of attrition at wide receiver of the
Speaker 1: last three years, where they've watched Donald Driver, James Jones,
Speaker 1: Greg Jennings and Jamichael Finley walk out the door and
Speaker 1: Davante Adams, Jeff Janis, Jared Aberdaris, and Richard Rogers walk in?
Speaker 1: Who was after Janice? Richard Rogers, Jared Aberdaris, Jeff Janis.
Speaker 1: That's the first Jared Aberdaris mentioned in the party. These
Speaker 1: are the guys who were replacing legends. And if you
Speaker 1: lose Cob on top of that, to me, your wide
Speaker 1: receivers go from a strength to a liability. Well, let's
Speaker 1: back off calling James Jones and Jamichael Finley legends here,
Speaker 1: I mean legends is Reggie mckenzieh helped guys. He may
Speaker 1: be the one to go after Cob. Well, if you're
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb, great, you you signed a contract for two
Speaker 1: or three million more per year. You end up on
Speaker 1: a team going nowhere with a quarterback who won't be
Speaker 1: nearly as good as Aaron Rodgers, and you're the youngest
Speaker 1: free agent on the market in another four or five years.
Speaker 1: If you stay with Rogers, you've got a chance for
Speaker 1: another mega contract. If you go to Jacksonville or Oakland,
Speaker 1: who knows what's gonna happen to your market value. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be tough with for guys like Ted Thompson who
Speaker 1: don't usually spend free agency and they want to be
Speaker 1: fiscally responsible. Because I think just new pay scales are
Speaker 1: going to be set this year. You have to forget
Speaker 1: what you think Randall Cobb is worth. He's gonna make
Speaker 1: twelve million dollars. And if you really think Randall cops
Speaker 1: that important to your team, I mean, the Packers are
Speaker 1: forty million dollars under the cast. And it's like the
Speaker 1: post that Dan wrote over the weekend on Vincent Jackson
Speaker 1: where they didn't go for a pay cull with him,
Speaker 1: that that kind of jacked up the wide receiver market
Speaker 1: right there by the way. Just uh circling back to
Speaker 1: the Payton man if the rap sheet NFL Media Insider
Speaker 1: Ian rap report also now reporting that it's a four
Speaker 1: million dollar paycut, and it is not clear at this
Speaker 1: time Greg if there are any incentives to make up
Speaker 1: that lost money. So it'll be interesting to see how
Speaker 1: that shakes out. And I guess no one's crying for
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's bank account or anything. Yes, and that's what's happening. Hey, TD,
Speaker 1: is Bucky Brooks rolled in yet he's on his way? Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: right there he is by the way. All right, so
Speaker 1: we have a couple of minutes. By the way, you said,
Speaker 1: this is a big podcast for Mark, Greg, where do
Speaker 1: you stand. I think Mark has been doing an incredible
Speaker 1: job at everything so too, I don't think so he's
Speaker 1: you don't think you're doing well. You're asking him a lot.
Speaker 1: You said you want him to carry this show. I
Speaker 1: wrote that down. I don't know. Mark says he doesn't
Speaker 1: know where it was coming from, and I don't either.
Speaker 1: I just it's good to be random, keep keep people
Speaker 1: on their toes. I also threatened to stab you at
Speaker 1: the Plastic Fork earlier at the London at the huddle
Speaker 1: today thinking and I could give you a ticket to HR.
Speaker 1: So the record, I want to keep that on the
Speaker 1: down low. Well, while we wait for Bucky, why don't
Speaker 1: we just move on to our next segment, And we
Speaker 1: talked about Greg's big time free agency rollout um session
Speaker 1: that is all over the website right now. Uh. Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about the biggest team needs in free agency
Speaker 1: and we'll break this down into two categories, just the
Speaker 1: biggest overall needs and we all each of us for
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL group wrote one that jumped out
Speaker 1: to us. Uh, and then also one the need that's
Speaker 1: under the radar, so maybe nothing. You know, when they
Speaker 1: say under the radar, Greg, I mean you know, and
Speaker 1: I'm not right on the surface obvious, not obscure necessarily,
Speaker 1: just under the radar. So we'll go through those. So
Speaker 1: why don't we start, gentlemen, Chris Westling, you are the scientists.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw it to you to get going here.
Speaker 1: You actually, because you do, you have to you here, Wes, No,
Speaker 1: you have just have one, all right? So your biggest
Speaker 1: need that you see right now for a team Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers offensive line, which was the worst in the
Speaker 1: NFL last year, and they're set to release Anthony Collins
Speaker 1: if they can't find a taker for him. Per NFL
Speaker 1: media insider Ian Rappaport, that will well, as he should.
Speaker 1: That will leave the blind side wide open for the
Speaker 1: number one overall draft pick at quarterback if it's Jameis Winston.
Speaker 1: So you've got no left tackle, you don't have a
Speaker 1: right guard, and you had the worst offensive line in
Speaker 1: the NFL last year. You can't put a quarterback behind
Speaker 1: that offensive line. And unfortunately, there are no great left
Speaker 1: tackles in free agency this year. So what are they
Speaker 1: gonna do? Uh, maybe try to shoehorn Brian Bulaga in there.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Orlando Franklin, Doug Free those are not
Speaker 1: attractive options. That's quite a major need. Mark Sessler. I
Speaker 1: look to Cleveland in the wide receiver position and I
Speaker 1: think it's it's It puts a lot of pre sure
Speaker 1: on Ray Farmer, the general manager, because last year he
Speaker 1: went into the pre jaft process squawking about how teams
Speaker 1: like the Seattle Seahawks don't need to draft wide receivers high,
Speaker 1: and that he held it that same philosophy. And then Cleveland,
Speaker 1: you know, with the first round that they had decided
Speaker 1: to pass up the greatest wide receiver draft in many
Speaker 1: many years. I didn't even think about that. So there's
Speaker 1: another good draft, but there's also a good crop of
Speaker 1: wide receivers. So you know, outside of the concept of
Speaker 1: growing your own talent, they need to they need to
Speaker 1: get better at this position right away. And it's uninspiring
Speaker 1: for Browns fans that out of the gate to talking
Speaker 1: to Brian Heartline that if he's going to be a
Speaker 1: starter in Cleveland, that's that's as hard as selling Matt
Speaker 1: Castle to the Buffalo Bills. You've got to do more
Speaker 1: than that, and they've got to they have two number
Speaker 1: one picks. Again, one of those has to be a
Speaker 1: wide receiver. Heartline is okay as a rotation E player
Speaker 1: as long as it all depends on the contract. If
Speaker 1: he's their third or s and the quarterback going to
Speaker 1: get to work up. Your goal is not to make
Speaker 1: plays Brian Heartline, as you're I mean, what is their
Speaker 1: first round by the way, twelve twelve, So you might
Speaker 1: be able to get one of those three. You know,
Speaker 1: DJ really loves DeVante Parker. He's been linked to them
Speaker 1: multiple mock draft Parker. I like that Brian heartlinees um
Speaker 1: splits the season where some of the worst split you'll
Speaker 1: ever see from a wide receiver I think was sixteen
Speaker 1: games West. Can you help me with those sixteen games?
Speaker 1: I think less than five hundred yards yards he has averaged.
Speaker 1: He's played six years, He's averaged two touchdowns per year
Speaker 1: as an NFL starter. That's not getting it done. It's
Speaker 1: not a good fit for that offense. I take back
Speaker 1: what I said. You don't want to sign Brian Hartland,
Speaker 1: not just because of everything you said here, but because
Speaker 1: how much. If you're going to spend money in free agency,
Speaker 1: this is a good year to get someone that's a
Speaker 1: legit player. Don't aim for the middle because you're not
Speaker 1: gonna sign heartline and the top of they have like
Speaker 1: sixty million exactly, this is the year to do it.
Speaker 1: They could draft someone, get someone, got Howkins in the middle,
Speaker 1: and then you're good. Let me throw out one need
Speaker 1: The Chargers need running back. Uh. Philip Rivers through the
Speaker 1: wall a lot last year and he got hit a
Speaker 1: lot last year. And he's still a very effective quarterback
Speaker 1: at great quarterback, but you need to give him some help.
Speaker 1: And Ryan Matthews, you know, he had the one really
Speaker 1: good year, but he's always hurt. He's a free agent now.
Speaker 1: I think gotta let him go out the door and
Speaker 1: go get a running back that you could put behind
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers that you can count on. And as we know,
Speaker 1: this is a nice little year for some running backs
Speaker 1: in the fold. I I liked the idea and I
Speaker 1: made a point of it in our write up that
Speaker 1: I thought the Cowboys did a really nice job protecting
Speaker 1: Romo another thirty Southern quarterback with de Marco Murray, Marco Murray.
Speaker 1: But maybe he goes to San Diego and he becomes
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers security blanket. That's my I think there's been
Speaker 1: some worry from the DeMarco Murray camp. Maybe maybe what
Speaker 1: this market's gonna look like for him, that he's such
Speaker 1: a star, but are they really gonna be able to
Speaker 1: get him a star like contract? But then you think
Speaker 1: about the teams that could be out there looking for
Speaker 1: a starting running back San Diego, Indian Polus, maybe even Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna want to spend a
Speaker 1: lot of money Arizona. I mean, these are teams that
Speaker 1: could really use a between the tackles guy that would
Speaker 1: be a great fit. I'd love to see the Chargers,
Speaker 1: who we didn't really enjoy as the team of around
Speaker 1: the NFL. I didn't. I'd still like them to bounce
Speaker 1: back and kind of be that next you know, they'll
Speaker 1: live up to it a year later, kind of like
Speaker 1: are making the leap. Guys are always good. Two years later,
Speaker 1: maybe they'll be more fun. They were most attractive two
Speaker 1: seasons ago down the stretch when they were running the
Speaker 1: ball forty times a game down people's throats, they knocked
Speaker 1: off the Broncos in prime time by doing that, that's
Speaker 1: when Matthews was excellent. They've got to get someone back
Speaker 1: in the right. Dan, by the way, I love, I
Speaker 1: would like to sign Ryan Matthews. Would I would like
Speaker 1: the Patriots to sign him. Well, I'm sure you'll get him.
Speaker 1: Get rid of La Garret, get rid of La Garrett Blunt.
Speaker 1: You know that was nice. Get Ryan Matthews in there.
Speaker 1: Then bring Blunt back in next December again exactly. I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, it's just like you're just gonna get everybody
Speaker 1: you want and then they're all gonna revert back to
Speaker 1: their greatest form. You guys, act, it's not the people
Speaker 1: have rivus on the brain. They It's not like they've
Speaker 1: signed many. Climb right back up to your throne of
Speaker 1: ease as the as the minstrels play. I do know
Speaker 1: that fed directly into the the harp is strum gently.
Speaker 1: I do know that we are living on a throne
Speaker 1: of ease. When I was texting with another Patriots fan
Speaker 1: today and we were talking about how we kind of
Speaker 1: enjoy Rex and Buffalo kind of loading up like this
Speaker 1: because it makes it more fun. You guys should all
Speaker 1: be in jail. It does make it all fun. Is great,
Speaker 1: have nothing to worry about. They just traded for mac Castle.
Speaker 1: You should be sent to Australia like the British one.
Speaker 1: This is why Greg loves the Castle signing. Yeah, just
Speaker 1: simply removes an a FCS contender, all right under the
Speaker 1: radar needs So I don't know, I don't get to
Speaker 1: throw any need out there. You just you just went
Speaker 1: Ryan Matthews. I thought you used yours up with your
Speaker 1: Matthew seeds. But go ahead, Oh it's okay. I was
Speaker 1: gonna just do the most obvious, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: like Brown's receiver Chiefs receiver, kind of overly obvious. I
Speaker 1: actually had a contest at the desk the other day
Speaker 1: if anyone could name who had the second most amount
Speaker 1: of snaps that wide receiver for the Chiefs last year.
Speaker 1: Chris Westling got the right answer. Stunner. Already forget the
Speaker 1: answer because it was so junior. Hemingway two hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty snaps was second on the team, and two hundred
Speaker 1: and sixty yards by Albert Wilson was second on the team.
Speaker 1: And you're probably gonna cut the guy who was number
Speaker 1: one on the team Dwayne Bow So that's pretty Greg
Speaker 1: was really surprised that West knew that. But then he's
Speaker 1: forgetting that West as a toaster legend t D. Everything
Speaker 1: going good over on that front at Producer TV hashtag
Speaker 1: w WT we need three to four hardcore contesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: how's Bucky doing? By the way, is he gonna make it? Okay?
Speaker 1: So it might be too late. A lot of podcasts
Speaker 1: on him. He's like the podcast for Agent right now.
Speaker 1: This is this is kind of like his rock star move.
Speaker 1: And you know it's where twenty one minutes past as
Speaker 1: a scheduled arrival times the way to get him decide,
Speaker 1: Bucky know that we just passed ten million podcasts with
Speaker 1: this episode. I mean, is that the type of podcast
Speaker 1: you want to let him know when he gets here?
Speaker 1: Under the radar needs and I don't know if I
Speaker 1: discussed this earlier, Greg, you have you have, you have
Speaker 1: your obvious needs, and then you have your other types
Speaker 1: of needs that are way under the service, right under
Speaker 1: that radar. You went way under the rate waiter with yours.
Speaker 1: I went pretty far into the raid. But let's start
Speaker 1: took it. You took it, alright? I like, I'm just
Speaker 1: looking at the Chicago Bears every since Earl Bennett left
Speaker 1: down the Chicago Wait, why are you laughing at me?
Speaker 1: You don't like Mark Marcus Wilson. I guess look at
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears who have two tall wide receivers but
Speaker 1: somehow still have a limited offense. And I guess you
Speaker 1: could say Jay color stinks, but a lot of people
Speaker 1: seem to think Jay Cutler is a good guy. How
Speaker 1: about you get somebody, a slot guy that could go
Speaker 1: underneath and really open that offense wide open. And if
Speaker 1: you get one guy that makes everything connected dots, that
Speaker 1: offense can go from the middle of the pack unit
Speaker 1: to top three. In my opinion with Matt Forte, they're
Speaker 1: also if if this new coaching staff can finally tam
Speaker 1: j Cutler. Although I'm not necessarily holding my breath on
Speaker 1: that little Randall Cobb you steal that you want a
Speaker 1: short receiver under the radar. I mean, listen when when
Speaker 1: you're I'm getting bullied by dorky scientists football scientists that
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it's crazy because Marshall
Speaker 1: be out of there. You put Marcus Wilson in as
Speaker 1: a starter, and you need a slot guy. Um, so
Speaker 1: screw you guys. Who's next? Well, I'll try to not
Speaker 1: getting ripped to shreds uh. Well, I feel like everything's
Speaker 1: not under the radar because all we do all day
Speaker 1: long as just read this nonsense from every team. But
Speaker 1: I'm going Oakland pass rushers, you know, and actually it's
Speaker 1: kind of a burning need. You've got Khalil mac in
Speaker 1: your front seven, who was outstanding last season. But Reggie
Speaker 1: mc henzie, we talked about this earlier on the show,
Speaker 1: already in the process of getting rid of the free
Speaker 1: agent bounty he picked up last year because there were
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of whiffs. One of them,
Speaker 1: Lamar Wood Lee. He's out of the building, justin Tuck,
Speaker 1: the two of them. You know, all this offseason nonsense
Speaker 1: about how they've brought these veterans in and this defense
Speaker 1: is gonna be edgy. Twenty two sacks a franchise low
Speaker 1: last season. You gotta get some young guys to rush
Speaker 1: the passer. But I'm gonna say, Mark, I'm not I
Speaker 1: will never laugh at your thing, because I think that's rude.
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't call this under the radar. I feel
Speaker 1: like Dan, I'm the only room that did not dig
Speaker 1: my claws into you as your football analysis was unleashed
Speaker 1: two minutes ago. And your move is to turn around
Speaker 1: sacks sacks don't move, is to turn around and be
Speaker 1: that guy. Well, it's difference between taking criticism and being
Speaker 1: laughed at. That's all I'm saying. I'm just saying obvious
Speaker 1: need for them, not under the radar. You failed. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that a lot of people are talking about the Raiders,
Speaker 1: but that's probably just in general. I guess alright, I'm
Speaker 1: just hitting out now. Mark don't don't know it's it's evident,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling, whatever you say is wrong, but go ahead. Well,
Speaker 1: I think it's evident that the Titans need a quarterback,
Speaker 1: but their fans are under the delusion that Zach Mettenberger
Speaker 1: is the answer, and they are joined by several high
Speaker 1: octane football analysts who believe Mettenberger is some kind of
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, even though he couldn't finish his last year
Speaker 1: at l s U, couldn't finish his rookie season, and
Speaker 1: frankly couldn't move the offense when he was under center.
Speaker 1: If they, like Marcus Mariota, would be foolish to pass
Speaker 1: on him. Quarterback is a major need for the Titans
Speaker 1: at the combine, though it's sure sound like it was
Speaker 1: in Hunt at coach and also Rust and Webster, who
Speaker 1: is Mr or Excitement by the way at GM they
Speaker 1: both paid. It sound like a they really really do
Speaker 1: just want a quarterback at number two, that it was
Speaker 1: an opportunity that might not come again, or be they're
Speaker 1: openly inviting teams to think that so they'll come up
Speaker 1: and trade with them. I think it's that second part
Speaker 1: which is weird, because Zach Mettenberger is their starter. They'll
Speaker 1: they're probably I'm looking at who's gonna sign Ark Sanchez?
Speaker 1: By the way, I don't think there's many options out there.
Speaker 1: Titans are kind of the rough riders, the one team
Speaker 1: that still need a one B starter option, right, they do,
Speaker 1: but that's how they see it at least one. All right, Greg, Finally,
Speaker 1: well we get closed with a bang. You know, but
Speaker 1: Baltimore might have won two Super Bowls in three years
Speaker 1: if they had a better secondary. You got uh Anthony
Speaker 1: Levine and Rashaan Melvin playing big time snaps in a
Speaker 1: game where they outplayed the Super Bowl champion Patriots. Uh
Speaker 1: Darius web might have to be cut because he's paid
Speaker 1: a lot of money. Jimmy Smith's coming off a thing.
Speaker 1: They have no safety, So get some coming off, get
Speaker 1: some defensive acts. What he's coming off a thing like that?
Speaker 1: The line was under the radar? Not under the radar? No,
Speaker 1: that was cool. I thought Greg's was great coming off
Speaker 1: a thing. What is it torn achilles? I was trying
Speaker 1: to remember Cliss Frank surgery. That's it. Those were the
Speaker 1: under the radar. Wow, what the tension in the room. Not.
Speaker 1: I don't like to do laughed at exactly. I thought
Speaker 1: that was rude. I apologize for laughing at you, Dan,
Speaker 1: I didn't drop a tweedlede and tweedle dumb today. I
Speaker 1: don't apologize for not laughing at you. I don't know
Speaker 1: why you went after me Mark on this. I wasn't
Speaker 1: really like I'm the one that didn't go after I know,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't attacking you when I just just saying
Speaker 1: that maybe that wasn't under the radar. I stopped listening
Speaker 1: like ten seconds. I stand by everything I said. I
Speaker 1: demand what's going on? Bucky Brooks. By the way, that's
Speaker 1: a better heat dropped than the actual heat. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll we'll make that same Bucky is taping NFO now
Speaker 1: right now, so he said, and um, we're taping here.
Speaker 1: It's a guys like Howard here. Well, we'll figure out
Speaker 1: when we have Bucky on next alright, apologize, apologies to
Speaker 1: the listeners who were expecting Bucky. Maybe we'll get him
Speaker 1: in later this week, maybe down the line. Let's be honest.
Speaker 1: We just filled up a whole show anyways. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: it was awesome. Oh and and let's and save your
Speaker 1: tweets about us arguing with each other. We all like
Speaker 1: each other very much. It's a little fun, you know,
Speaker 1: having a little fun. I like, you know, a little
Speaker 1: creative tension. That's how you get the best work out
Speaker 1: of people. All right, let's see what's up. What's coming
Speaker 1: up this week? We got another show on. Well, it's
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna post Friday morning, so it to be
Speaker 1: a little earlier, and we'll have one on Friday. I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna have us You're on to mix Flowers
Speaker 1: today and we'll say no more than that. What about
Speaker 1: Thursday on Friday show? Great would be if we had
Speaker 1: that actress on. Is that Matt McConaughey coming on the shore.
Speaker 1: Just tease it like that? Right? Alright, alright, wow on Friday,
Speaker 1: why don't we do some sandwich propositions agency? Okay, I
Speaker 1: like it, bat little free agency previ. T D can't
Speaker 1: do any worse than the gold standard did at this
Speaker 1: one last or right t D currently Calvin Calvin Johnson
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns. That's a good point, t D. Tomorrow, I
Speaker 1: think is your time to pay up sooner? Man has
Speaker 1: no integrity. Uh all right, so yes we will play
Speaker 1: the Sandward will go get my lunch um curse word
Speaker 1: when we come back on Friday. Thank you for listening.
Speaker 1: This is uh Dan Hans signing off. Yes you got
Speaker 1: another drop for US celebrations. Song Entry Tristen Tristan from
Speaker 1: Australia is great. And here's here's here's a good one
Speaker 1: right here, little early period daft punk. Yeah like it.
Speaker 1: I like that. Chris looks like he's having a seizure.
Speaker 1: I have no opinion on that song. I don't like
Speaker 1: this one. I liked it. I think that we're a
Speaker 1: little too clubby. It's a bit of a low grade recording.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing, why can't we why can't we have
Speaker 1: a song that we like, like a song that actually
Speaker 1: kind of gets you fired up, then have to have
Speaker 1: the word celebrating it. Why can't it be like a
Speaker 1: cool song instead of these old kind of corny songs
Speaker 1: like Return of the Mac You love that one? That
Speaker 1: can we can mix that in the right, I mean
Speaker 1: we there, We gotta find the common ground. Basically, I
Speaker 1: think Farahn taramnch no no. I like that funk? Do
Speaker 1: you guys don't like that funk? It was too clubby?
Speaker 1: That was a jam though. That was great. I think
Speaker 1: that's one of the great greatest dance songs ever. But
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna force the legislation. If people don't want it,
Speaker 1: it's fine. We'll find a better one. Really have a
Speaker 1: genre called dance songs in my life, all right, So
Speaker 1: we'll figure it all out. Yes, we'll be back on Friday.
Speaker 1: This is Dan hands As signing off for Quiet Storm,
Speaker 1: the Mailman, the Boss, t d behind the class and
Speaker 1: z is I could see it back there dead pause,
Speaker 1: It's so Friday, Stop the dance all