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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis, and I am joined by
Speaker 1: a room filled with some heroes. Chris Westling to my left,
Speaker 1: Gregg Rose, the thought of my ride. What's up boys?
Speaker 1: All Right? Mark Sessler in the wilderness on this Monday.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's actually literal or figurative, but
Speaker 1: probably both. He is out there solving uh unsolved crimes
Speaker 1: or they guess they've been solved at the Manson murders
Speaker 1: or whatnot. He's obsessed at them, right, he's Mark has
Speaker 1: gone down to Manson wormhole. Uh, we'll leave it at that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost since the less we explain, you
Speaker 1: just leave it open and Mark wants to get into
Speaker 1: it more we can. But that's probably where he's right
Speaker 1: now doing some investigating. I was just told before we
Speaker 1: came in today. Big show. By the way, this is
Speaker 1: our big ramp up week to free agency. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have Bucky Brooks a little later in the week bring
Speaker 1: to Bring Back, Go Get My Lunch Jerk game to
Speaker 1: make some predictions on free agency. And today we're gonna
Speaker 1: get into the news and the franchise tags a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff to get to. But as I was coming
Speaker 1: in the door, t d our great producer, uh, the
Speaker 1: great Prince of Georgia I call him. Uh he not
Speaker 1: until now, but I like it. Uh. He made me
Speaker 1: aware that this week our show goes over ten million downloads.
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Speaker 1: these guys and you know in studio here West, give
Speaker 1: me something. Would we read me a comment? There's a
Speaker 1: top ten list that I liked on here, top ten
Speaker 1: reasons too that I like around the league. Here we go,
Speaker 1: who's it? Bye? You gotta give him a shout either
Speaker 1: real James Earl Jones. All right, you know who you are. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a celebrity listener. You have to read this in
Speaker 1: the voice of James Earl Jones. Oh, like Darth Vader forgets,
Speaker 1: doesn't do impression. James Earl Jones played Darth Vader. We
Speaker 1: got it, We got we got it. Oh you want
Speaker 1: me to read a little couple? Yeah? Why not? Mark
Speaker 1: Sessler a k a. The Quiet Storm roots for the
Speaker 1: Browns who play in a factory of sadness. Occasionally Mark
Speaker 1: finds sullis in the wilderness. What about one for West
Speaker 1: Number four? Chris Wesley and a k a. The Scientist
Speaker 1: a k a. The Mailman was once a Bengals fan,
Speaker 1: but now claims no allegiance. He is the most knowledgeable,
Speaker 1: but also the most hyperbolic. That's the most ridiculous sentence
Speaker 1: I've ever read something like Greg on that list. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, let's see Greg Rosenthal a k a. The
Speaker 1: Boss once played in the underground emo rock band Delaware.
Speaker 1: He is the boss of this crew of misfits. He
Speaker 1: roots for the Patriots from his throne of ease. I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess what all am I on there? I like, wait,
Speaker 1: I was wait? No, Greg got his I want to
Speaker 1: hear it. Dan Hans this is the host, a Jets
Speaker 1: fan and has the best hair of the group. Occasionally
Speaker 1: he steers the conversation towards him. Seriously, these comments are
Speaker 1: awesome nine out of ten. Couldn't be more complimentary, But
Speaker 1: it's always the ones that are negative that Yeah, grow
Speaker 1: up one star. I mean that the NFL enterprise has
Speaker 1: so much control over their brand, but zero control over
Speaker 1: these children attempting to act like I'll just stop after that.
Speaker 1: Good job. But there was one bearing me too write
Speaker 1: yeah one, some Ravens fans called you the podcast was
Speaker 1: great except for Dan Hans is a douche. I disagree
Speaker 1: with that anyway. So everyone, even the people that send
Speaker 1: negative comments hed as guys hind us. Uh so, thank
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Speaker 1: And also all the people that are are trying to
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Speaker 1: New York. A lot are getting through, so I think
Speaker 1: we might be making some progress on that front. It's
Speaker 1: all up to Greg to get it done though. Honestly,
Speaker 1: do you think Roger has come across any of those hoping, Well,
Speaker 1: we haven't heard. Uh so yeah, so that everything's good.
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Speaker 1: be doing the show. Hopefully we'll get another ten million,
Speaker 1: maybe billion downloads. Who cares, we'll do it all. Let's
Speaker 1: get into football now and uh uh t d we're
Speaker 1: gonna we have a lot of stuff to get to
Speaker 1: from uh the franchise tag. The deadline was today Monday
Speaker 1: at one pm Eastern, and that is gonna be, um
Speaker 1: what we're gonna be talking about to start, because this
Speaker 1: has a lot of ramifications as they head to toward
Speaker 1: free agency, which is now just over a week a
Speaker 1: week away. So TV, let's sue some news. They're schemers,
Speaker 1: schemers trying to control their little worlds? Is that the Joker?
Speaker 1: Joker and and and Zach z Drizzle who's uh for
Speaker 1: those who don't know, his last week for this season
Speaker 1: is this week and uh last last episode. He gets
Speaker 1: talking a lot of scheming and playbooks and then he
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we should have that drop from the joke,
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know what's Zach? You're right for you,
Speaker 1: You're right, z Drizzle. We're gonna miss you, budd. You
Speaker 1: gotta get fact alright, So here we go. Here are
Speaker 1: teams that are scheming to keep some of their star players.
Speaker 1: Here the player. There were six players tagged ahead of
Speaker 1: Monday's deadline, justin Houston. Should we go one by one
Speaker 1: or should I just name them off? All right? Justin
Speaker 1: Houston by the Chiefs to Mary's Thomas and the Broncos,
Speaker 1: des Brian and the Cowboys JPP, Jason Pierre Paul the Giants,
Speaker 1: Stephen Gastowski of the Patriots. That was interesting, and Charles
Speaker 1: Clay of the Dolphins got the transition tag, which was
Speaker 1: also interesting. So why don't we start with a lot
Speaker 1: a lot of notable names that did not get tagged
Speaker 1: that maybe we thought we're gonna happen. But we'll get
Speaker 1: to the tag players first, and we'll start with Greg.
Speaker 1: The biggest surprise for you on this list of six,
Speaker 1: I think it has to be Guskowski getting it over
Speaker 1: Devin mccordy, who I've talked up many times as the
Speaker 1: ultimate Patriot, the guy that they're gonna want to keep
Speaker 1: over Darrell Reevus. And now the Patriots are in a
Speaker 1: situation where you could see mccordy and Vous hit free agency.
Speaker 1: I gotta think that they have some level of confidence
Speaker 1: that they're going to be able to get a deal
Speaker 1: done with one of those two guys. If you're gonna
Speaker 1: put the franchise tag on Guskovski, how is that the
Speaker 1: biggest surprise? When people were saying it was going to happen,
Speaker 1: but no one said Charles Clay was gonna get it,
Speaker 1: that's fair, well, don't care. I wasn't even counting Charles Clay,
Speaker 1: is you know important? WHOA You don't even acknowledge the
Speaker 1: other teams in your divisions. Well, here's the thing with
Speaker 1: the transition tag. Okay, it's a surprise because no one
Speaker 1: ever uses it, but he's there's a good chance he's
Speaker 1: not going to be on the Dolphins next year. All
Speaker 1: it lets them do is match any offer that he
Speaker 1: signs with another team, you know, And they go out
Speaker 1: and do that and they get absolutely nothing in return.
Speaker 1: So if I had to guess if Charles Clay is
Speaker 1: on the team this year or not, like wouldn't surprise me.
Speaker 1: If he's not on the team, it's like chance he's
Speaker 1: on the team, really, I see. I think they just
Speaker 1: use it in a way that, like we'd like to
Speaker 1: have one year seven million, we're not really ready necessarily
Speaker 1: to give him the big long term deal. We've heard
Speaker 1: that the Bills and the Jets are interested. For instance,
Speaker 1: someone's probably gonna give him a big offer, and I
Speaker 1: think he'll go and speaking why wouldn't they match. I
Speaker 1: don't understand this. We saw the Browns matched what the
Speaker 1: Jags did with Alex mac last year. I don't remember
Speaker 1: a team like letting a transition guy go, well, you're
Speaker 1: essentially they stay with the transition tag. I guess a
Speaker 1: frustration for a team that tries to go after a
Speaker 1: player in this case is that team could end up
Speaker 1: just doing the work for the original team in the
Speaker 1: first place. I would imagine if if he gets signed
Speaker 1: to an offer sheet that is team friendly in the
Speaker 1: Dolphins eyes of like, oh, well, we'll keep trying. Well, sir,
Speaker 1: I'm expecting him to get way too much money, just
Speaker 1: like all these free agents will this year. I think
Speaker 1: we're we're hitting into an interesting time. The salary cap
Speaker 1: has exploded the last two years. It went up way
Speaker 1: more than we expected. There's way more cap room for
Speaker 1: all these teams than ever before, and so I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna see kind of a lot of new markets
Speaker 1: being set and guys like Charles Clay making eight and uh.
Speaker 1: Two things. First of all, uh Ian rappaport I was
Speaker 1: on the phone with him yesterday on Sunday talking about
Speaker 1: the decision by the Bucks to keep Vincent Jackson and
Speaker 1: not restructures deal. Thanks, and the decision uh was made
Speaker 1: after even talked to some people. Because people are starting
Speaker 1: to realize that this is gonna be a big off
Speaker 1: season for spending and guys are gonna get a lot
Speaker 1: of money. So Vincent Jackson might seem like he's overpaid
Speaker 1: at nine point seven five million, but when guys start
Speaker 1: getting paid, it's not gonna look that bad, and teams
Speaker 1: are thinking that head it might cause a reset of
Speaker 1: the market. Secondly, Greg, yes, you're thrown of ease that
Speaker 1: you sit on is the Patriots world champion fan. Uh,
Speaker 1: let's let's get a little nervous, right because you you're
Speaker 1: very clumsy as we know. Uh, whimsical excuse me. And
Speaker 1: Stephen Kostowski are gonna keep him in a house. And
Speaker 1: that's great, great kicker. But you've got these two major
Speaker 1: figures in your secondary mccordy and Revs, and you're gonna,
Speaker 1: most likely or you know, they got eight days or
Speaker 1: whatever to get something done, you're gonna let them hit
Speaker 1: the market. And in an off season where people are
Speaker 1: gonna be throwing money around like crazy, it's a big risk,
Speaker 1: especially this offseason. Well, Revis is under contract, so they
Speaker 1: would have to cut him for him to hit free agency.
Speaker 1: And I know he's probably a million dollars, but there
Speaker 1: is some sort of leverage there that they could hold
Speaker 1: onto him, maybe even into the new year, and still
Speaker 1: keep working on a new deal. I believe that they'll
Speaker 1: work something out with either mccordy or Revis, probably not both.
Speaker 1: My money was on mccordy. Now I'm not so sure.
Speaker 1: Let's calm down on everybody acting like mccordy's gone now.
Speaker 1: I know you weren't. Put a lot of people on
Speaker 1: Twitter were acting like he's gonna be the hottest item
Speaker 1: on the market. He's come out and said multiple times
Speaker 1: this offseason, New England is home. That's who I want
Speaker 1: to play for. I don't see him as a guy
Speaker 1: who wants to go out and sign somewhere else, but
Speaker 1: the agent can start shopping him around at some point.
Speaker 1: There's no safeties in this free agent class. There's no
Speaker 1: safeties in this draft, and suddenly you have Devin mccordy.
Speaker 1: That's a It's just one of those tough positions, Phil,
Speaker 1: Are we still burying the lead though? And this kind
Speaker 1: of came up in the last podcast where I was
Speaker 1: surprised you guys didn't value Reeve's higher in the free
Speaker 1: agents list. If he gets there, Uh, if you come
Speaker 1: out of this offseason. You lose, lose Revas one and done,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be really disappointing to a Patriots fan. Right
Speaker 1: If mccordy is the one that they're valuing more surprising
Speaker 1: to me, it will be very disappointing. But it was
Speaker 1: kind of the bargain you had going in with him
Speaker 1: the whole time that you thought it might just be
Speaker 1: one and out. Now, West, I'll put this on you
Speaker 1: because you know I'm I'm a little more biased. Would
Speaker 1: you rather have Darrell Reva's at thirty or Devin mccordy
Speaker 1: at twenty eight years old? And let's say, you know,
Speaker 1: mccordy's probably gonna be a less money per year, but
Speaker 1: you know you'd signed him to a long term deal.
Speaker 1: I'd rather have Revas at thirty. Um, I know that
Speaker 1: you're feeling on this. And because you know Bill Belichick,
Speaker 1: mccordy's known as leader on their buddies and well, you
Speaker 1: know how you've been on five rings, haven't you? As
Speaker 1: Yatt Some mccordy and Will Foker are known as their
Speaker 1: defensive leaders. Belichick loves mccordy. I still think Revis is
Speaker 1: the better player. Revis is a difference maker. Mccordy is
Speaker 1: just really good. So maybe maybe they do find a
Speaker 1: way to keep reevos. Maybe they're saving up for Reevs
Speaker 1: to give him sixteen seventeen million dollars a year and
Speaker 1: they'll say goodbye to Accordy. I would live with that alright.
Speaker 1: Anybody else on this list, I mean justin Houston, Da
Speaker 1: Marius Thomas des Bryant, JPP. We learned from Ian uh
Speaker 1: that he would be remaining a giant. All this was
Speaker 1: kind of we saw all these coming correct fully expected.
Speaker 1: JPP is the most interesting, just because people thought he
Speaker 1: had a down year last year. He certainly did two
Speaker 1: years ago. You know, who are these people who thought
Speaker 1: he had to do him? Uh, there're people on our
Speaker 1: own website says he hasn't made a play in a
Speaker 1: couple of years. That guy isn't watching board seen point
Speaker 1: eight million dollars this year. You mentioned, for instance, The
Speaker 1: Science as a sneaky contender for Dominican Sue, and I
Speaker 1: think they're a sneaking contender for a lot of free agents,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Now they're paying JPP fourteen point
Speaker 1: eight million dollars a lot of money. You can't really.
Speaker 1: I don't know that takes them out of free agency.
Speaker 1: They still have a few players to cut and free
Speaker 1: up more room that'd be expensive defensive line. So here
Speaker 1: are the notable players and you we have a we
Speaker 1: have a post up on around the NFL Franchise tag
Speaker 1: tracker where this is a big this is a big
Speaker 1: tracker season for the around the NFL website, NFL dot com,
Speaker 1: slash around the NFL. Uh not tagged, Here we go.
Speaker 1: I think that's what it is right that t works,
Speaker 1: news works as well. Dominican Sue, which I guess you
Speaker 1: know they did not want to touch that twenty six
Speaker 1: point eight million dollar tag that would come with being tagged.
Speaker 1: So Sue and the lines are still trying to negotiate
Speaker 1: no tag. Julius Thomas, uh Broncos. You only get one
Speaker 1: of these, and they used on Damarrius Thomas DeMarco Murray
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. Cowboys just seemed resigned to let this
Speaker 1: guy go. Every everything you hear in Uh, Devin mccordy,
Speaker 1: which we spoke about, Randall Cobb of the Packers, Uh,
Speaker 1: Jerry Macklin Eagles, Jerry Hughes Bills, and Jordan Cameron Brown's
Speaker 1: those are those are the ones we listed as notable,
Speaker 1: uh not tagged. West will start with you this time.
Speaker 1: Give me one that jumps out at you that you
Speaker 1: were a little surprised to play it out this way.
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised that any of these guys did not
Speaker 1: get tagged. That's why he's the scientists all but Sue
Speaker 1: is obviously the most interesting one because we've said this
Speaker 1: all along the lines, have been so outwardly optimistic about
Speaker 1: keeping him, wildly confident, and all along is raised our eyebrows, like,
Speaker 1: how are they this confident when Sue has all the leverage,
Speaker 1: every bit of the leverage. I mean, he's gonna make
Speaker 1: it to the open market and become the highest paid
Speaker 1: defensive player in the NFL. Yeah, we'll talk about him
Speaker 1: a little later, possible landing spots for him, but you know,
Speaker 1: free agents, he's number one on our list now, especially
Speaker 1: with Justin Houston h tag. There's no debate over that.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's arguably the best defensive free agent the
Speaker 1: it's been on the market in twenty years. I went
Speaker 1: back and tried to come up with the other cases.
Speaker 1: Julius Peppers was one Albert Haynesworth was another Nam the Awesome,
Speaker 1: while was another Mario Williams. But Sue in his prime,
Speaker 1: I think is better than them all. I think we're
Speaker 1: forgetting how good Julius Peppers was when he left Carolina
Speaker 1: went to Chicago. He was good, but he wasn't at
Speaker 1: the very peak of his career. He wasn't quite as
Speaker 1: young as as Sue as now. So that that's why
Speaker 1: I give it. But you know, that's one argument one
Speaker 1: guy on this list for me that jumps out, and
Speaker 1: I think the Packers might be undervaluing a little bit.
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb. Uh his franchise number would have been twelve
Speaker 1: point eight million, which was obviously, you know, it's exorbitant
Speaker 1: for a slot guy. But at the same time, a
Speaker 1: lot of times they put these tags on the guys
Speaker 1: as a placeholder to try to get a deal done.
Speaker 1: To me, that's a that's a historically great offense, and
Speaker 1: if Aaron Rodgers is healthy, they're guaranteed Super Bowl contender.
Speaker 1: To me, you keep that group together if you can,
Speaker 1: and you let him go. That's that's a major part
Speaker 1: of that offense disappearing. I'm surprised they're playing with fire here.
Speaker 1: It's a bad idea for both sides. If he goes
Speaker 1: somewhere else, he could end up in Oakland or something
Speaker 1: averaging seven hundred yards a year because he's he's not
Speaker 1: gonna be nearly as productive without Aaron Rodgers. And when
Speaker 1: you have Aaron Rodgers, you're always in Super Bowl contention.
Speaker 1: You can't afford to be getting rid of guys like
Speaker 1: Randall Cobb and sticking Jeff Janison you're starting lineup or whatever.
Speaker 1: There is some optimism among Cobb, it seems locally reading
Speaker 1: you know, their papers, that they can get a deal done.
Speaker 1: So this might be Ted Thompson not wanting to really
Speaker 1: set the per year bar at twelve point eight million,
Speaker 1: which is a really high number, and they're still negotiating.
Speaker 1: They're gonna I just see him staying in Green Bay.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do to work hard and get
Speaker 1: a big time deal. Well, if you remember last year
Speaker 1: this happened with Sam Shields, that they agreed to a
Speaker 1: deal two days before free agency to keep him in
Speaker 1: and really paid him a lot more money than people
Speaker 1: thought he would get. Here's a guy I'll throw out
Speaker 1: there on this list that to me, if he lands
Speaker 1: in the right spot. Uh. Pure wrestlers. Just say, purely
Speaker 1: from a fantasy football perspective, he's going to go off
Speaker 1: the charts with guys rolling the dice on him. Jordan Cameron,
Speaker 1: if he lands in a good offensive the real quarterback
Speaker 1: if if if he stays healthy, which is a huge
Speaker 1: if with him, he could have a monster year in
Speaker 1: the right uh system. And I don't think obviously Cleveland
Speaker 1: is that I'm a big Jordan Cameron fan. The concussion
Speaker 1: is obviously an issue, and we've heard scuttle butt around
Speaker 1: the office that that Jacksonville Jaguars might like him a
Speaker 1: little right, Yeah, so that would be not the situation
Speaker 1: you're talking about. Although I do think Blake Bortles can
Speaker 1: get better. I'm my mind is open to him having
Speaker 1: a big second year jump. You know that that's not
Speaker 1: an offense that's going to create a lot of big
Speaker 1: Let me let me throw a spot out there. We're
Speaker 1: just talking about the Packers. Jordan Cameron goes to the Packers,
Speaker 1: stays healthy. You're telling me that guy's not a potential
Speaker 1: twelve yard receiver. He just gets me excited. Jordan Cameron,
Speaker 1: He's I think he's the closest thing we've seen to
Speaker 1: a young Tony Gonzalez. Wow, but it were you guys,
Speaker 1: But we're just kind of blowing past the concussion. It's
Speaker 1: a major, barely stay on the field. I don't even
Speaker 1: think that. I'm almost surprisedly put him on the uh
Speaker 1: not tag list because I don't think it was a
Speaker 1: consideration for the Browns after because of his health. Must
Speaker 1: have been Mark's influence on this. Anything else that jumps out,
Speaker 1: I think de Marco Murray is not a surprise. Uh,
Speaker 1: Jeremy Macklin, it still sounds like that's a that's a
Speaker 1: deal that will get done with Philly, but who knows.
Speaker 1: Julius Thomas. Macklin's interesting because he has two guys who
Speaker 1: basically are invested in his career that could be waiting
Speaker 1: to bid on him and Andy Reid. The Chiefs obviously
Speaker 1: need receivers after setting a record for ignominious production last
Speaker 1: year and then he's infamous. Whatever whatever they did, they
Speaker 1: didn't have a single touchdown, and then Ryan Grigson drafted him. Uh,
Speaker 1: the guy who's the Colts GM now was director of
Speaker 1: player Personnel when the Eagles drafted him. M hmm. Interesting
Speaker 1: quotes are reportedly looking for a veteran receiver, right, I
Speaker 1: think you're gonna hear the same teams in the mix
Speaker 1: for a lot of these guys. The Browns would be one,
Speaker 1: and then the Colts are another, and the the Jaguars
Speaker 1: and the Raiders or another. And we'll actually talk to
Speaker 1: Connor or a little later about the teams we think
Speaker 1: are really going to spend a lot of money in
Speaker 1: free agency. All right, Yes, we'll get to that a
Speaker 1: little bit later. They call him space ghost Connor or
Speaker 1: get him on the line. Uh. And this is the
Speaker 1: time now, right before free agency, where teams need to
Speaker 1: do some cap work. They gotta dump some dead weight
Speaker 1: or make some tough cuts. So here's a list of
Speaker 1: some cuts that have happened in the last few days
Speaker 1: that are notable. Darnell Dockett of Arizona, who's reportedly visiting
Speaker 1: with the Niners. Wouldn't that be a double cross? And
Speaker 1: I mean not really, but he's someone that always talks
Speaker 1: a lot of trash about the NFC West teams. They
Speaker 1: the Cardinals in their statement even said though that they'd
Speaker 1: like to have him back. And they're trying to get
Speaker 1: Docum back and the Miami Dolphins are making a lot
Speaker 1: of moves. They cut Brian Hartlett, Brian Heartline, Brendan Gibson.
Speaker 1: And then on Monday, Courtland Finnigan sent his uh walking
Speaker 1: papers nailed it, you see makes I hated about that.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Mark might be he took some grief
Speaker 1: for some negative of course. Famously, Courtland Finnigan uh dropped
Speaker 1: some expletives on Mark in a direct message conversation, which
Speaker 1: is great. Atlanta dropped Harry Douglas. Uh. And I think
Speaker 1: of Harry Douglas his his beautiful home on Hard Knocks
Speaker 1: last season, and he had the house that had like
Speaker 1: the living room with the open skylight and all the
Speaker 1: really disgusting brown furniture. Oh wait, yeah, actually yes, he
Speaker 1: had a great nice wife woman. She was good West.
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, how's everything going again? Any tweets we got?
Speaker 1: I've had uh several interesting exchanges, several very nice, uh
Speaker 1: a little slightly flawed in a good way. Women have
Speaker 1: reached out to me, and we've had some nice exchanges.
Speaker 1: None of them live within two thousand miles of me.
Speaker 1: Can we get some ballet people? I mean in southern California?
Speaker 1: And you you want to date. A noted football mind,
Speaker 1: Chris Westling is here for you, uh right at around
Speaker 1: the NFL. I mean when you mean exchanges, I mean,
Speaker 1: what are we talking about here? They've reached out through
Speaker 1: Twitter or email and we've we've talked picture being sent
Speaker 1: back and forth there any well, I think most people
Speaker 1: have pictures on their Twitter pages, not that those kind
Speaker 1: of pictures. I don't get into that kind of stuff
Speaker 1: that you kids with your pictures. And now I don't know,
Speaker 1: speaking of and the quest of lady Westling, have you
Speaker 1: considered Tinder? Now? What's tinder? Come on, I know what,
Speaker 1: I know what tinder is, but now I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: do tinder. We one night, one boy in downtown Culver. Uh.
Speaker 1: I was out with West and Mark and my wife
Speaker 1: and we try to convince West to get on the
Speaker 1: dating side. It didn't take to it too well. He
Speaker 1: just wants to do it the old old fashioned way,
Speaker 1: which I retect, go to a bar and make bad decisions.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. Alright. So we're we're still working on that.
Speaker 1: Chris Canty got cut by the Avens and Brandon Cofield
Speaker 1: also got Barry Cofield. Oh excuse me, Barry I call
Speaker 1: him Brandon. Who else was in Washington? Stephen Bowen and
Speaker 1: he got of these old these old guys that you know,
Speaker 1: you spent a lot of money. Washington's another sneaky team
Speaker 1: to watch this year is spending a lot of money.
Speaker 1: Don't you think they're kind of in that see I know,
Speaker 1: but they've got they're kind of in that cycle where
Speaker 1: they laid back for a few years. Now they're cutting
Speaker 1: their old mistakes. Now they're ready to get They forgot
Speaker 1: about Albert Haynesworth and crazy Scott mcgluen has has always
Speaker 1: been a build through the draft guy. Okay, um, all right?
Speaker 1: Anything else? Any other cuts? I think we covered all
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, we've been adding some of them. You know.
Speaker 1: That's another tracker page. We have cooking right notable cuts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we've been doing that. We have our top one on
Speaker 1: one list, which is up and so we're adding players
Speaker 1: to the mix. So, for instance, Taiwan Branch Safety of
Speaker 1: the Raiders, he got cut partline uh is up there
Speaker 1: at ninety nine or so. That's something and somehow Michael
Speaker 1: Vick remains at one oh one. Let's tell me the
Speaker 1: mechanics behind that. Well, we add people to the list
Speaker 1: and we take people off as there's cuts, as there's tags.
Speaker 1: But no matter what Michael Vick, they what it wants
Speaker 1: to be a big name. Yeah, you gotta. And here
Speaker 1: it was Teed Gain or Kenny Britt Right, you can't.
Speaker 1: You can't have Ron Parker sitting there at one on one.
Speaker 1: It's just a bad way to end things. And you know,
Speaker 1: these these numbers are all, you know, made up in
Speaker 1: nonsense anyway, And speaking of speaking of bad, bad things,
Speaker 1: I should bring it up just because it's kind of
Speaker 1: the eight pound grill in the room. There has been
Speaker 1: some some feedback, whether it be Greg doing radio shows
Speaker 1: in Missouri or some stuff you've seen on Twitter West
Speaker 1: where people are under the impression some people in the
Speaker 1: media this is Greg Rosenthal's top one on one list,
Speaker 1: and perhaps Chris Westling is somehow in in Greg's shadow,
Speaker 1: which could be leading to some tension. I don't sense
Speaker 1: it necessarily right now, but I'm not gonna say it's
Speaker 1: not there your thoughts, guys, there's no tension. I just
Speaker 1: thought it was funny. I was checking out one of
Speaker 1: the SB Nation blogs and they wrote was a Baltimore
Speaker 1: beat down. It's something with it they should change then
Speaker 1: with a ridiculous name, and they wrote the NFL and
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal have released their top one agent. They have
Speaker 1: no clue. I like it's me and the NFL too.
Speaker 1: I'm like a whole separate entity. No, they have no
Speaker 1: clue that I'm a corporeal entity at all. They just
Speaker 1: I don't exist. They ignored in the radio station. So
Speaker 1: I tweeted that and told him they were dead to
Speaker 1: me and have not heard back from them. I listened
Speaker 1: to Greg did a radio hit in Kansas City, and
Speaker 1: I listened to it, and uh, I quite enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Uh again, it was all Greg's list. It's kind of
Speaker 1: if you did you made. You went out of your
Speaker 1: way to bring West up fans of the Rocky series.
Speaker 1: Uh well, maybe tie this to Rocky five, where in
Speaker 1: this case West you're Tommy the Gun, Tommy the machine gun,
Speaker 1: and uh you are Rocky Bobo the trainer. Greg. But
Speaker 1: you should know this ended with a street fight Rocky five.
Speaker 1: I don't think we acknowledged that Rocky five exists. I
Speaker 1: don't like my chances in a street fight with we
Speaker 1: all right, so we we touched on in Dominan sue,
Speaker 1: but I really we all decided when we were planning
Speaker 1: the show, we got really digging on that. And and Greg,
Speaker 1: you wrote just an excellent piece, uh today on the
Speaker 1: around the NFL site and Dominicans. Who's six best landing spots.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be no shortage of suitors for the great
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. So, uh, we'll go one by one on
Speaker 1: this list. Let's start right. You have right at the
Speaker 1: top of this you don't rank. Is this a ranking
Speaker 1: most likely to least? Pretty much? But this was a
Speaker 1: tough one because, like, who couldn't use Dominican sue. Usually
Speaker 1: you're picking teams that have a need. It's like everyone
Speaker 1: has a need for Dominican su This is gonna be
Speaker 1: like a fifty or sixty million dollar investment ultimately, right,
Speaker 1: with guaranteed money. Right. And but the crazy thing now
Speaker 1: is there's you know, you can make the case twenty
Speaker 1: teams have the cap space in the room to really
Speaker 1: do it. We're not in the NFL anymore where many
Speaker 1: teams are in problems. I mean there's like the Steelers,
Speaker 1: the Saints, and that's about it. Cowboys. So at the
Speaker 1: top of the list you have the Oakland Raiders and Uh,
Speaker 1: this is coming off. I thought it was. It was interesting.
Speaker 1: I was working, uh the solo shift on Sunday and
Speaker 1: Lamar Woodley got cut and it brought back memories of
Speaker 1: what a train wreck. Uh. Reggie Mackenzie's first offseason with
Speaker 1: money was last year. Do you think this time he'll
Speaker 1: just go all in and grab a guy that's actually
Speaker 1: in his prime one of our top forty guys by
Speaker 1: the way, last year, Lamar Woodley, I do think Mackenzie
Speaker 1: could go in. I think Mark Davis is motivated to
Speaker 1: go in. They have to spend a lot of cash
Speaker 1: to get to the new salary cap floor, which is
Speaker 1: a new rule that's part of the new collective bargain aguniment.
Speaker 1: But it really kicks in this year and just doesn't
Speaker 1: he seem like an Oakland Raider and Dominican Sue and
Speaker 1: in Dominicans who's on the record saying he's letting his
Speaker 1: agent pick where he goes. He's going which team gives
Speaker 1: him the most money, and I think that can be Oakland.
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders seem like the exactly the kind
Speaker 1: of team you used to drive the price up on
Speaker 1: a better team. I don't know he's gonna go where where.
Speaker 1: I mean, if there's a difference of like one million
Speaker 1: dollars or something like that or less, maybe, but he's
Speaker 1: gonna go with the team that pays him the model.
Speaker 1: He's on the record about saying that about his agent.
Speaker 1: He's also on the record as saying he wants to
Speaker 1: go wherever he can market himself the best. So I
Speaker 1: think the two New York teams Dallas, Chicago, Oakland's not bad.
Speaker 1: In a Bay area, he could do a lot of
Speaker 1: like there's no there, they're renegade, you know stuff history
Speaker 1: Raiders defense. I could see it. I could totally see it.
Speaker 1: Plus this is also this is all the also the
Speaker 1: team getting mentioned in reports, which you assume kind of
Speaker 1: comes from his agent. I did talk to Ian uh
Speaker 1: to get some background to try to say where I
Speaker 1: might be right or wrong on this report, and the
Speaker 1: Raiders make sense as a top pic. Have you ever
Speaker 1: noticed that, Uh, this go get your Lunch game is
Speaker 1: rigged because Greg always has inside info from his little
Speaker 1: conversations with Ian. Yeah, I'm on to you. It's not
Speaker 1: like I'm winning that much. So you're saying, even though
Speaker 1: you have all this inside info, you're still not winning.
Speaker 1: There was a time when when uh, we have this
Speaker 1: drop a bunch of in her blowtorch and TD is
Speaker 1: just completely forgotten about. It doesn't even have podcast, you
Speaker 1: know that fires the hell's going on out here? Whoa, whoa, whoa?
Speaker 1: What's going on? We're just gonna do our own drops.
Speaker 1: I was just saying, we our last show, we did
Speaker 1: an entire show about the scientists, and there was not
Speaker 1: one bunch in burner blowtorch. Speaking of drops and how
Speaker 1: you guys don't like the celebration job. I'm not a
Speaker 1: huge fan of the heat cool because I thought it
Speaker 1: was our podcast, That's what I thought it was. Well,
Speaker 1: this is because we like you don't see me trying
Speaker 1: to interrupt it when you go, hey boys, or whatever
Speaker 1: it is you say at the top of the show,
Speaker 1: what up? Boys, replaced all of our good drops and
Speaker 1: put in twelve copies of celebrating What is this? You know?
Speaker 1: It's it's make a better one in the better blow too.
Speaker 1: That the reason why TV feels this way is because
Speaker 1: the gold standard came up with that. It's like a
Speaker 1: new coach coming in. And that's true. It is interesting
Speaker 1: how you've basically kept the gold standard out of this room.
Speaker 1: That's not true. It's very I got news to you
Speaker 1: guys coming soon. Uh we go. The Detroit Lions are
Speaker 1: second on this list, so Greg, even though the Sue
Speaker 1: is gonna probably you would imagine, despite the Lions confidence
Speaker 1: on the issue, he's probably gonna test the open market.
Speaker 1: He could end up back in Detroit, which doesn't happen
Speaker 1: very often. Well, they do have one big advantage, which
Speaker 1: is that they can negotiate with him between now and
Speaker 1: March seven, and you never know. They've just been so
Speaker 1: confident publicly that I don't think they've given up on it.
Speaker 1: So I'm not giving up on it either. Where's shaking
Speaker 1: his head? They're the irrational confidence team. By the way,
Speaker 1: I don't understand a Lions fans don't worry about Sue
Speaker 1: possibly leaving because you guys hosted Kendall Langford. That's what's happening.
Speaker 1: Here's fans. You want to talk about a team that
Speaker 1: I could picture and Dominican Sue in the uniform number
Speaker 1: three on the list of Chicago Barris. I could see
Speaker 1: him in that uniform on Soldier Field, that torn up turf,
Speaker 1: just doing damnage. If you linked to him since late
Speaker 1: last year or two. So yeah, they have and that
Speaker 1: you know, they get linked for a reason. There's there's
Speaker 1: someone talking about it. I'm not sure who it is,
Speaker 1: but there's someone talking about it. And they have a
Speaker 1: new general manager, new coach, ready to spend, ready to
Speaker 1: make a splash. They know how good Sue is. Let's
Speaker 1: do it. Here are two team. Your next two teams
Speaker 1: don't excite me as much, the Jaguars and Colts. You're
Speaker 1: gonna put in the Dominquin Sioux in the a f
Speaker 1: C South, No, thank you, that's not where he belongs. Well,
Speaker 1: they've got a coach, Gus Bradley, who I think could
Speaker 1: do a good job with Sue, and they seem like
Speaker 1: they're ready to spend some big money. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's his biggest marketing opportunity in northeastern Florida. That's fair.
Speaker 1: But if they're if they're saying, hey, we're the jaguarography there,
Speaker 1: We've got no count no state income tax, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna pay you ten million dollars more than any other team.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars would have to pay maybe a little bit
Speaker 1: of a Jaguars tax here. Again, I love the city
Speaker 1: of Indianapolis. I have been there for Super Bowl and
Speaker 1: for common Very nice city, very nice people. Uh in
Speaker 1: that city too cold in February. What a joke that was.
Speaker 1: But you're not marketing yourself in Indy. Come on, what
Speaker 1: do you mean? Well, but they're good team, you're That's
Speaker 1: the part I don't get about the marketing. Forget the
Speaker 1: marketing thing. First of all, it doesn't matter. And we're
Speaker 1: in the NFL. It doesn't matter what team you're on.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers plays in like a small town when you
Speaker 1: filled with well who works there, there's you know, there's
Speaker 1: no industry there. It's like people and he's the biggest
Speaker 1: star in the world, your biggest star in the league.
Speaker 1: You hit on a point, though, because this is exactly
Speaker 1: the idea of an athlete quote wanting to market himself.
Speaker 1: This is how Marshawn Lynch ends up in Turkey on
Speaker 1: behalf of an organization trying to promote football. When Marhawn
Speaker 1: Lynch is trying to promote his brand, it's like it
Speaker 1: just leads the dumb decisions. Just you know, you don't
Speaker 1: have to go to Turkey to get more money and
Speaker 1: get more famous. Marshall, just come back here and talk
Speaker 1: to us here. Turkey is underrated though well from what
Speaker 1: I've heard had seen, as they have great persons as
Speaker 1: a potential vacation spot. People like Turkey. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: top five sneaky vacation spots. Turkey might make them get
Speaker 1: out of here with that. No one else is buying this.
Speaker 1: You guys just aren't aware. That's how. That's how it's sneaky,
Speaker 1: sneaky Behind Newsbekistan finally on your list. The Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 1: The Miami Dolphins, Well, I don't want to see this
Speaker 1: as a Jets fan, This one's interesting. Just let's let's
Speaker 1: just say keep an eye on this one. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a wild card, but let's just keep an eye
Speaker 1: on this one. And let's see if Mike tannonbob the
Speaker 1: new Dolphins when he says wild card has inside infil
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, they've made big splashes before
Speaker 1: Mike Tannenbaum has, So let's let's see they're rebuilding that
Speaker 1: two game blind's rigged. Greg has inside infill not like
Speaker 1: anyone knows. I wish I knew. You gotta play on
Speaker 1: the honor system. Honestly, when we play the Sandwich game,
Speaker 1: which is very important in terms of morale for this group,
Speaker 1: and we take it very seriously. We have a gifted
Speaker 1: mathematician on Twitter that helps us track this stuff. You
Speaker 1: can add two and three, this is great. If this
Speaker 1: is the best the trash dock you guys can come
Speaker 1: up with, said, Hey, you're too you'd know too much
Speaker 1: about about the NFL. We can't even be in the
Speaker 1: same games as you. Thanks. I mean, you're complimented me.
Speaker 1: We're just saying, use your your conscience if if it
Speaker 1: comes down to uh stuff, you know, I'm just saying
Speaker 1: it's only fair. Well, you do have access to shadow.
Speaker 1: We lead figures that we do not have the access
Speaker 1: too here and you're in meetings like four hours a
Speaker 1: day now, Yeah you think they even know how to
Speaker 1: spell in Dominicans. Soon give you a break, uh and
Speaker 1: uh okay. So then and then you have his wild Cars,
Speaker 1: the Bills, Brown's Jets and Giants. Yeah, those are just
Speaker 1: some you know, I got lazy after writing six teams
Speaker 1: really and uh yeah they all have money, they could
Speaker 1: all That's the thing. You could make a list of
Speaker 1: fifteen teams that wouldn't be crazy to want in Dominicans
Speaker 1: to all four of those teams have some nice caps
Speaker 1: based definitely a need, not really a need. In the
Speaker 1: New York with the Jets, well, if they thought that
Speaker 1: would be interesting at least if they let snacks go, yeah, uh,
Speaker 1: they would have the whole there. And oh man, but
Speaker 1: Sue's not a no Sue, yeah right, it would just
Speaker 1: be adding to their art their strength. So next to Wilkerson,
Speaker 1: oh my god, and Richardson and rich oh Sheldon. Oh
Speaker 1: all right, I should have put the Redskins because when
Speaker 1: I was making this list, I was thinking of ownership.
Speaker 1: That's what you got to think about when you think
Speaker 1: about Sue is ownership spending lots of money, so bills.
Speaker 1: They have new owners they're ready to spend. I think
Speaker 1: the Brown's ownership is really desperate right now. I think
Speaker 1: Woody Johnson could be a little desperate. Right, Maybe perhaps
Speaker 1: you have to throw the Redskins in there. Brought you
Speaker 1: brought up the Browns were meant to hit that In
Speaker 1: the news, Josh McCown signed a three year deal with
Speaker 1: the Breath, uh, which of course I think it led
Speaker 1: to Mark ending up in a bar on Friday night,
Speaker 1: uh and making a long walk home. Josh McCown is
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel's UH competition. It looks like Brian Hoyer gone
Speaker 1: McCown in the house West. You were with Mark on
Speaker 1: on Friday after work. Tell me his headspace at that moment.
Speaker 1: We actually walked. Uh. It was a good minute walked
Speaker 1: to UH an area place called Lost in Found and UH.
Speaker 1: I think for at least twenty of those minutes we
Speaker 1: were talking Josh McCown. He hates the move with a passion.
Speaker 1: I think it was the most sensible move that could
Speaker 1: have made. I don't know. They already decided Brian Hoyer.
Speaker 1: They decided Brian Hoyer is not a starting NFL smart
Speaker 1: So why bring him back and have him clashed with
Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel or be promised one thing and not delivered.
Speaker 1: You bring him accown, he can start and not embarrass you,
Speaker 1: and he's gonna mentor Manzel. They've called him like a
Speaker 1: coach player for what he did last year in Tampa.
Speaker 1: It makes all the sense in the world to me,
Speaker 1: I guess. But if it's weird to me to make
Speaker 1: any case, the account is particularly better than Matt Moore
Speaker 1: or Michael Vick or Jake locker. I guess it's a
Speaker 1: different kind of quarterback, so I'll take him out of
Speaker 1: the mix. But to me, it's like, Okay, mccowny, they're
Speaker 1: all about the same. One of those guys can help
Speaker 1: mentor your your second year more. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about his mentoring abilities. It's all I know.
Speaker 1: It's all funny money. But any deal for Josh McCown
Speaker 1: in two thousand fifteen that can max out of twenty
Speaker 1: million just seems a little rich for me. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's like a one year contract. Yeah, I mean, ultimately
Speaker 1: it's probably for one year unless he really exceeds expectations
Speaker 1: and then Mark can be moaning about some other quarterback
Speaker 1: next year on a walk to a bar. That's garanteed.
Speaker 1: All right, Finally we are going to get our friend,
Speaker 1: our colleague. He hails from a New Jersey, Well hails
Speaker 1: from New Jersey, I believe, but he lives in a
Speaker 1: haunted mansion in the Garden State. His name is Connor
Speaker 1: or some people call him space Ghost, and welcome to
Speaker 1: you Around the NFL podcast. Connor, what's going on? Fellas?
Speaker 1: I forgot? We always forget. You're a Browns fan too,
Speaker 1: by the way, So what was your thoughts on Josh McCown.
Speaker 1: He doesn't like to he doesn't like to let that
Speaker 1: be known because he was a real journe over a
Speaker 1: while or whatever. That's over, that that part of your
Speaker 1: career is over. I mean, Mark would know better than I,
Speaker 1: but it's just yeah, I think I've just been conditioned
Speaker 1: not to be excited about any quarterback ever, like, regardless
Speaker 1: of of cedigree and especially Josh McCown. That it just
Speaker 1: doesn't do it for me. M hmm. Yeah, we'll see
Speaker 1: how it works out. So anyway, the reason we have
Speaker 1: Connor on here is, uh, he wrote just a scorcher
Speaker 1: I thought on the Around the NFL blog that was
Speaker 1: posted today, and I'll tell you scorcher, it's going up
Speaker 1: on two d comments that people are really responding to
Speaker 1: Connor's work. I know you're new here, but when Dan
Speaker 1: complements your article, just be aware there's no chance he's read.
Speaker 1: Don't believe. I don't believe anything anyone says. He's got
Speaker 1: a little Eddie Haskell. Uh Alright, So anyway, I loved it.
Speaker 1: It was the name of the article, who will spend
Speaker 1: big and free to see who will be quiet. So
Speaker 1: you have a list here, uh five teams, and even
Speaker 1: that you're throwing a bonus team which gets people excited.
Speaker 1: Uh So I will list the first three and order
Speaker 1: number one. You have the Cults who have forty million
Speaker 1: quote to quote, Honor Connor burning a hole in Ryan
Speaker 1: Grigson's pocket. The Raiders at number two. Well, you just
Speaker 1: talked about the Raiders and Sue being a potential destination spot,
Speaker 1: and the New York Jets and Woody Johnson at three,
Speaker 1: So let's start with those first three teams. We've talked
Speaker 1: about the Raiders and Jets a little bit, but what's
Speaker 1: your take on why they should be thought of as
Speaker 1: big time spenders. Well, I think the Jets obviously, I
Speaker 1: mean Woody Johnson always kind of strikes me as a
Speaker 1: very reactionary owner. So the criticism of Mike Tannebaum on
Speaker 1: the way out was that he mismanaged the cap so
Speaker 1: he hired another CAP guy to fix that. And now
Speaker 1: the CAP guy that he just fired had a tendency
Speaker 1: of not spending the surplus of free agency money that
Speaker 1: they had, So now he's going to force the next
Speaker 1: guy to spend the surplus of free agency money. I
Speaker 1: think that and just kind of cyclical, and you know,
Speaker 1: I really think they need to give the fans something
Speaker 1: to hope for with the new head coach and a
Speaker 1: new GM, just some pieces to put around, especially if
Speaker 1: you're gonna lead on Geno Smith and try to make
Speaker 1: him your quarterback for another year. And then the Raiders, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, like Greg said on his NFL Now hit,
Speaker 1: which I paid very much attention, Yes, um, you know,
Speaker 1: Reggie McKenzie is on his way out. And this is
Speaker 1: what you do when you're a GM. I mean you
Speaker 1: throw money at the problem and hope that you make
Speaker 1: the playoffs and get another contract extension. So I think
Speaker 1: those are two that are just kind of very obvious
Speaker 1: and and once it will see a lot of activity
Speaker 1: for this this offseason and the and the cults. I
Speaker 1: would think that Ryan Grigson's under a great deal of
Speaker 1: pressure this year. I would think if this is a
Speaker 1: team they they're expecting to compete, he hasn't been. He
Speaker 1: hasn't been to quote damage at Gangbusters, I think is
Speaker 1: a GM. His records good though his records they got there,
Speaker 1: they've won, I mean, well, yeah, but number twelve is
Speaker 1: a big reason why you think forty million, uh, you
Speaker 1: think that they will be pretend really the biggest spender
Speaker 1: of all. I think so, just because, like you said,
Speaker 1: the way that last season ended getting blown out, um,
Speaker 1: you know, and and just appearing like such kind of
Speaker 1: a second fiddle. As far as when it comes to,
Speaker 1: you know, teams with elite quarterback, I mean, he's got
Speaker 1: to put everything around him. I mean, he needs the
Speaker 1: running back, he needs helping the offensive line, he needs
Speaker 1: to pass rush, and he needs more guys for Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck to throw too. So I think he can get
Speaker 1: some version of a lot of that stuff on the
Speaker 1: market this year. And I really do think that he
Speaker 1: needs to bring this team within an actual, legitimate here
Speaker 1: shot of the super Bowl. And I think he knows that.
Speaker 1: So I think we'll watch out for it. Will be
Speaker 1: active early and often. But they're in a weird market.
Speaker 1: They're in a weird spot because in theory they're close
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. They make the playoffs every year,
Speaker 1: but the roster is terrible for the most part. I mean,
Speaker 1: they have a lot of holes. If you look at
Speaker 1: the rest of their team. There there's some really good
Speaker 1: players on it, but a lot of Holes breaks high
Speaker 1: on this list every year because he has to keep
Speaker 1: spending to fix the mistakes he did the year before. Right,
Speaker 1: he just cut wreckige friends like the Frampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: Arthur Jones didn't really work out last year. He's made
Speaker 1: some big Lauren Landry, I mean he's made some good
Speaker 1: constar cheerlest Donald Thomas with with with Vante Davis was
Speaker 1: a good trade, resigned him. Well, I was gonna say
Speaker 1: trades better than he signs. But Trent Richardson, were you
Speaker 1: making a point? I forgot that point. Okay, you made point. Okay,
Speaker 1: I thought you were going somewhere else. You go somewhere else.
Speaker 1: It was good dripping blood here for you. I thought
Speaker 1: you did better work on the Kansas City or radio spot.
Speaker 1: But all right, you have the Browns at four, the
Speaker 1: Giants at five, and then your bonus team is the
Speaker 1: Bills and Connor if you can touch on them. I
Speaker 1: thought it was interesting your take on why the Bills
Speaker 1: could be big spenders because you cannot underestimate, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan's influence on a on a person that he
Speaker 1: hasn't really spent a lot of time with, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: Mike Tannenbaum would just do anything that Rex said as
Speaker 1: far as and you just looked at kind of that
Speaker 1: disastrous two thousand eleven team and even the years leading
Speaker 1: up to it. He's like, man, wouldn't it be cool
Speaker 1: if we signed with Damian Thomason or you know, Jason
Speaker 1: Taylor or yeah, Tim Tebow and Mike kendm was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what, why not? You know, And I think
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a similar situation in Buffalo where
Speaker 1: he's such a strong personality that he's gonna walk in
Speaker 1: there and be like, man, it'd be awesome if we
Speaker 1: had an adopt and Dominican sue and then you know,
Speaker 1: we'll just kind of dovetail from there. You know, we'll see,
Speaker 1: we'll see what he ends up doing. But he's just
Speaker 1: such a strong force and he gets I mean, look
Speaker 1: at how many first round picks on defense he got
Speaker 1: when he was with the Jet I think Mark Sanchez
Speaker 1: was the only one on ofense. So I mean, it's, uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's one of those things that I think you
Speaker 1: can't underestimate just the relationships that will add there. You
Speaker 1: have five teams on your laying low list, no bonus team,
Speaker 1: which I'm disappointed in, but still there's a good five.
Speaker 1: Here's the list. Why not just list six teams and
Speaker 1: not have a bonus? Everything about that. I want everyone
Speaker 1: to feel like they're getting a little something. So I
Speaker 1: felt like, yeah, it like leaves something in your head
Speaker 1: after your rita or joint. It's like, man, I thought
Speaker 1: that took something extra of that. This one goes to eleven. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: laying low. This is the list in order, Seahawks, Steelers, Niners, Saints, Jaguars.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm surprised or you guys. Take you guys, the
Speaker 1: to scientists to my right left want to take you
Speaker 1: to task on the final team there. I was shocked
Speaker 1: to see the Jaguars in the list. I'm convinced they
Speaker 1: will be spending money. Don't they have to hit the floor,
Speaker 1: Like you were talking, they gotta spend. They're ready to
Speaker 1: spend their desperate So my reasonings for putting them there was,
Speaker 1: I think that they're going to spend to get to
Speaker 1: the floor, like that is a given. They have to
Speaker 1: spend that amount of money. But I mean, how how
Speaker 1: desperate do you want to be in free agency? If
Speaker 1: you're kind of a new GM and still kind of
Speaker 1: a new coach with a little bit of leeway and
Speaker 1: a young quarterback. There's still another yearrothy away from the playoffs.
Speaker 1: You kind of want to match his rise with kind
Speaker 1: of the peak of the veterans that you're gonna sign.
Speaker 1: And it just makes no sense to go like all
Speaker 1: raiders on your roster right now. I mean, it's been
Speaker 1: enough to get to the floor, but I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you You've got some former Seahawks coaches down there, You've
Speaker 1: got people that know what they're doing. It's all about drafting, development,
Speaker 1: turning the roster. And I think that Dave Colbell is
Speaker 1: smart enough to realize that, well, they're not gonna go
Speaker 1: Raiders on the roster because nobody would be dumb enough
Speaker 1: to go Raiders on their roster and signed a bunch
Speaker 1: of over thirty year olds. But this team last year
Speaker 1: signs a Beatles, a guy who was in the prime
Speaker 1: of his career. They tried to sign Alex Mack who
Speaker 1: was in the prime his career. So you can see
Speaker 1: them going after got Red Bryant. Yeah, you can see
Speaker 1: them going after Byron Maxwell and Jordan Cameron, maybe a
Speaker 1: Julius Thomas wanted, you know, a couple of guys, right,
Speaker 1: I think enough, like we said, enough to get to
Speaker 1: that that threshold. But I mean I just don't you know,
Speaker 1: I don't see what a general manager would think. You know, hey,
Speaker 1: let's get Julius Thomas in here. I mean, that's really
Speaker 1: just that's gonna be the one edge that we need.
Speaker 1: Or even Julius Thomas and Adrian Peterson, is that really
Speaker 1: going to make them well? I mean, they went all
Speaker 1: in with Blake Bortles, they might as well try to
Speaker 1: build something around him. Makes sense to me. I also
Speaker 1: don't think they have that much time. They were terrible
Speaker 1: last year. You know, no one wants there to admit that.
Speaker 1: The expectations were for them to be a lot better.
Speaker 1: They have not really made any progress since Mike Malarkey
Speaker 1: left town, which is not, you know, a good thing.
Speaker 1: They need to show progress this year or else. I
Speaker 1: don't think they will be there next year. That's just
Speaker 1: how the NFL works. And if they're spending money, they
Speaker 1: don't even have guys to lock up the long term deals.
Speaker 1: You can't even identify cord players on that team, Like,
Speaker 1: who who are you gonna sign Jonathan Cyprian m hmm
Speaker 1: bi uh Connor, before you go, UH just want to
Speaker 1: apologize for getting you caught up in the Instagram boy
Speaker 1: stuff at the comboy inadvertently sent out a tweet when
Speaker 1: the starter at the forty yard Dash, the Steelers employee
Speaker 1: uh told Connor to put his phone away and then
Speaker 1: it took off viral. E But it was a different
Speaker 1: Instagram guy, so you weren't even the guy, but some people,
Speaker 1: including dead Spend thought initially it was you. I had
Speaker 1: something to do with that happening. I want to apologize. See,
Speaker 1: my only issue is the real Instagram guy is balding,
Speaker 1: and only that was only the mistaken identities. That was
Speaker 1: the only thing I cared about. But otherwise, you know,
Speaker 1: we're cool, Okay, cool, very good. Alright. That's Connor or,
Speaker 1: our new Jersey correspondent for around the NFL. Thank you, Connor,
Speaker 1: Thank you guys, so gentlemen. Good stuff from Connor, always good.
Speaker 1: Connor is a pro. We will be back before we
Speaker 1: do all that. We have a new entry for the
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Speaker 1: Here it goes. It's stupid. I like it just because
Speaker 1: it's different. But I think we should mix in a
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Speaker 1: That makes let me take I'm gonna take a picture
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Speaker 1: I just do it, slam got Hey, guys are awesome, awesome.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's pretty good though. Yeah, we're getting closer
Speaker 1: to current, like at some point we'll get into the
Speaker 1: two thousands. I'm looking forward to him at some point. Alright. Good,
Speaker 1: thank you guys, And uh, you know what, I apologize
Speaker 1: TD gave me a shot at on I am about
Speaker 1: my comment about being our podcast. It's your podcast, to buddy,
Speaker 1: I know you. You put a lot of effortence eight
Speaker 1: that he does, right, Yeah, exactly, I don't know one
Speaker 1: of four. Yeah, okay, anyway, you know what, I take
Speaker 1: it back. I still feel it right, and it existed
Speaker 1: for more than a year before you apology rescinded. But
Speaker 1: I the same team, the same same team, all right,
Speaker 1: So that's it. We will be back if you're again.
Speaker 1: When West's Toaster is coming up after the free agency
Speaker 1: madness ties down. So hit up at producer producer t
Speaker 1: D if you want to take West on, but don't
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Speaker 1: not And you know people have embarrassed themselves. That guy
Speaker 1: from Canada that came on West he was a nice
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Speaker 1: it looks like, so keep sending that in. We'll be
Speaker 1: back on Wednesday with Bucky Brooks, who's gonna be a
Speaker 1: weekly guest as we get closer to the draft. So
Speaker 1: that's it for Monday's edition of Around the NFL podcast.
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