Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast has no prior head coaching experience.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the League Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansus, and I am joined by
Speaker 1: a room full of heroes, Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal. What up, boys, Good evening, It's Sunday night.
Speaker 1: I can feel the energy. It's pulsating through my veins. Personally,
Speaker 1: I don't know about you, guys. It's much different on
Speaker 1: a Sunday. When last Saturday, guys were coming off of
Speaker 1: an all day corn Hale extravaganza, whereas this Saturday, you're
Speaker 1: coming off of a two year old birthday party when
Speaker 1: she went for my daughters. Yes, thank you for as
Speaker 1: far as you know. That's all we're coming on. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's true. Cassa del Rosenthal hosted us. It was really
Speaker 1: it was quite pleasant. I would say it was very
Speaker 1: nice children all around. Happy birthday to uh your daughter Ellis.
Speaker 1: She turns to a lot of information. So here we are.
Speaker 1: We are in week three. Another a little bit, a
Speaker 1: little bit disappointing to me personally this week or some
Speaker 1: ugly games, but also some interesting subplots. So maybe you
Speaker 1: should continue to listen to the Podcast of Surprises, and
Speaker 1: let's start right off the bat. In Candlestick Park, San Francisco,
Speaker 1: the forty Niners get taken down at home by the Colts.
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal watch that game, tell us about it. It's
Speaker 1: not only a surprising result who won, but the fact
Speaker 1: that the Cults were the tougher team than San Francisco
Speaker 1: is making me rethink a lot of things. I mean,
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of that game, they are running
Speaker 1: the ball straight through the forty Niners defense when they
Speaker 1: know the runner is coming. It's not Trent Richardson, who
Speaker 1: was a non factor. Really, it's a mod Bradshaw who
Speaker 1: looked terrific. And the forty Niners have to think. Now, Okay,
Speaker 1: they lost Patrick Willison this game with a groin injury.
Speaker 1: We found out after the game that Alden Smith will
Speaker 1: be away from the team on an indefinite leave of absence.
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport reported, Uh, he's gonna get treatment for substance
Speaker 1: abuse problems. Uh. And they can't throw the football right now.
Speaker 1: So this is a team suddenly in Week three that's
Speaker 1: got a whole bunch of problems. I was stunned by this.
Speaker 1: I talked about on Friday. I thought that this was
Speaker 1: a buzz saw game for the Colts, that we're gonna
Speaker 1: go in basis forty Niners team that got embarrassed in
Speaker 1: their previous game against the Seahawks. You would think this
Speaker 1: would be the chance where they kind of sharpen up
Speaker 1: again and beat up on the Colts. But instead they
Speaker 1: they really got beat up on themselves. And Uh, to
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler's credit, you had the hero pick on this.
Speaker 1: You picked the Colts, and you described that I believe
Speaker 1: as one of your funny feelings. I just had a feeling.
Speaker 1: But you know, hard Bob back to back losses for
Speaker 1: the first time as the coach of the Forts. That
Speaker 1: doesn't bother me so much except to look at how
Speaker 1: they lost these two games in the course of one week.
Speaker 1: I mean, they got rattled by by Seattle. They come
Speaker 1: in this game, you think they that the India is
Speaker 1: the kind of team that's gonna learn how to play
Speaker 1: tough football from a team like San Francisco. Greg said
Speaker 1: it best. I mean I watched the second half of that.
Speaker 1: They just got thumped. Colin Kaepernick really struggled. The book
Speaker 1: is out on this team. I mean, when they didn't
Speaker 1: have Vernon Davis in the game. They gotta beat me.
Speaker 1: They gotta figure out how to beat man coverage. They
Speaker 1: don't have anyone that can get open against man coverage.
Speaker 1: And that's what the Cults were doing. Uh. He couldn't
Speaker 1: throw the ball, couldn't run the ball. It is a
Speaker 1: great sign for the Colts that Andrew Luck had a
Speaker 1: very nondescript game played okay, wasn't really that huge of
Speaker 1: a factor, and the Colts wasn't going away. That whole
Speaker 1: narrative about Andrew Luck has no help. That's gone right now.
Speaker 1: The both Super Bowl teams now have the same problem
Speaker 1: lack of talent at the skill positions on offense. MHM.
Speaker 1: And I don't I don't put too much into it
Speaker 1: when people say distractions heard a team. So I don't
Speaker 1: think Alvin Smith, what happened with him that the d
Speaker 1: U I and now immediately after the game him going
Speaker 1: away from the team, I don't think that plays into it.
Speaker 1: But going forward now, I mean, that's that's a big issue.
Speaker 1: That guy was part of the guts of your defense
Speaker 1: and we have we have no idea how long he's
Speaker 1: gonna be gone. All of a sudden, are we worried
Speaker 1: about the Niners. It's a big game Thursday night against
Speaker 1: the Rams, you know. There. We'll see if Patrick Willis
Speaker 1: is ready for the game. We'll see if Vernon Davis
Speaker 1: is ready. I mean, these are their top players were
Speaker 1: talking about, uh, and they're not playing with them right now.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's it's a problem. One last thing on
Speaker 1: this game. I'm less than thrilled that the Colts are
Speaker 1: turning Andrew Luck into Russell Wilson going with this run heavy.
Speaker 1: Come on, free Andrew Luck. That's fair, that's fair. Um, alright,
Speaker 1: so yeah, let's move on. Let's go through the schedule
Speaker 1: all of Sunday's games. Um, Greg Rosenthal, I believe you
Speaker 1: also were watching the Baltimore Ravens Houston Texans game that
Speaker 1: that is a true statement. Not a pretty game. A
Speaker 1: lot of penalties in this one and not a lot
Speaker 1: of offense. The Texans should have had a big lead
Speaker 1: in the first half, didn't really take advantage of some
Speaker 1: great situations, and it just reminded me of some old
Speaker 1: school Baltimore Ravens ugly game. They get a pun return touchdown,
Speaker 1: they get a defensive touchow there's only one touchdown scored.
Speaker 1: In this entire game on offense that was by the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Had a nice drive with Tory Smith, and they're winning
Speaker 1: ugly and this is two straight games now. Their defense
Speaker 1: has not given up a single touchdown at home. Match
Speaker 1: Shop did not play well in this game, and I
Speaker 1: think Baltimore has got to feel good that they can
Speaker 1: win games in different sorts of ways. Now, how did
Speaker 1: Ed Reid look? He was a non factor. I mean,
Speaker 1: he had three tackles, just one of those kind of
Speaker 1: deep safety games where he didn't make a lot of
Speaker 1: noise either way. You know. The guy noticed a little
Speaker 1: more was Matt Elam who came into the starting lineup
Speaker 1: for the Ravens essentially Reads replacement. This was his first start. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Texans didn't have a play over eighteen yards in
Speaker 1: the entire game, so this was a station to station,
Speaker 1: really slow moving offense, and they they're struggling to make
Speaker 1: big plays and match Shops not playing that well. I
Speaker 1: still feel pretty good about my eight and eight prediction
Speaker 1: for the Texans. I know I'm in the minority on
Speaker 1: that about where they will finish this year, but they're
Speaker 1: very close. They could be if a couple of things.
Speaker 1: One against some oh and three right now, they did
Speaker 1: not play great in either Week one or two. They
Speaker 1: need to come backs in both games, and now they're
Speaker 1: a flat on the road against the Baltimore team that
Speaker 1: I think everyone agrees is not complete by any means. Um.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know about the Texans
Speaker 1: right now. I just have to point out that J. J.
Speaker 1: Watt has become the most fun defensive player to watch
Speaker 1: in my lifetime. Week after did you No, I know,
Speaker 1: but it's just the fact that it's continuing and taking
Speaker 1: it to another level. I thought his game last week Aainst,
Speaker 1: Tennessee one of the best of his career. He was
Speaker 1: incredible again today. Uh. And it's just I mean, it's
Speaker 1: just a joy to watch every week. Alright, Moving right along,
Speaker 1: I had the pleasure. Pleasure is probably not the word,
Speaker 1: but I watched the Carolina Panthers absolutely destroyed the New
Speaker 1: York Giants thirty eight. Nothing um could be the low
Speaker 1: point of the Tom Cofflan era in New York. I
Speaker 1: think this was a game where from the very beginning
Speaker 1: it was just complete domination on both sides. Eli Manning
Speaker 1: had no chance. Uh. He leaded twelve passes in the
Speaker 1: game and was sacked seven times, including six times in
Speaker 1: the first seventeen minutes of the game. Uh, that this
Speaker 1: is the type of protection we're talking about. The running
Speaker 1: game didn't know better. Um So the Giants are now
Speaker 1: oh and three and I'm shocked. I thought they were
Speaker 1: gonna get good off the Schnied, but they're not, and
Speaker 1: they're in deep trouble. Remember when the Craken predicted he
Speaker 1: would have fifty sacks this year. Yes, I thought he
Speaker 1: might get that in the first quarter. Yes, I believe
Speaker 1: he had three sacks today. Uh, but he didn't have
Speaker 1: sax in either of the first two games, so he's
Speaker 1: still way off his projection. You know, in the on
Speaker 1: last podcast, West and I both talked about Carolina as
Speaker 1: our pick of the O and two teams that could
Speaker 1: potentially turn things around. Makes some sort of a run.
Speaker 1: The defense to me was the obvious reason. But what
Speaker 1: I was reading and tell me what you saw that
Speaker 1: they kind of changed up the offense for Cam Newton
Speaker 1: this game. They did. You you saw more running from Newton,
Speaker 1: which was smart. Mike Shula, who around these parts anyway,
Speaker 1: doesn't have a great reputation. As I look over. It
Speaker 1: was the A t O whippy boy, but uh yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, listen, when you have someone who's dynamic as Newton,
Speaker 1: you've got to design some plays to let him make
Speaker 1: plays with his legs. And he did that and it
Speaker 1: just goes to show he played. Newton played just a
Speaker 1: really uh balance game. He had one bad interception, but
Speaker 1: he threw three touchdowns, he ran for another. He was
Speaker 1: in total control. And the only thing I will say is,
Speaker 1: and you can't take it away from them, that they
Speaker 1: blew the Giants out. But before I believe in the Panthers,
Speaker 1: I want to see them win one of those close
Speaker 1: games that they seem to lose. Um on a bi
Speaker 1: weekly basis, are the Giants the worst team in the
Speaker 1: league other than the Jaguars. Jaguars, let's throw out of
Speaker 1: this Steelers. Steelers are in that mix that it's incredible
Speaker 1: that those are the teams we're talking about. But that's
Speaker 1: how they've played. I mean, they've had three straight really
Speaker 1: bad performances. You know, I don't think about New York
Speaker 1: and it's not just that David Wilson has been disappointing,
Speaker 1: but I understand the whole They didn't get the contracting
Speaker 1: done with a mod Bradshaw. But look, the guy looked
Speaker 1: good tonight. That's a guy that would have fit perfectly
Speaker 1: in the New York's offense right now. They need a
Speaker 1: guy they can rely on running the ball. That's a
Speaker 1: shame it didn't work out. Yeah, but even if today,
Speaker 1: just speaking of today's game, though Brad Show wouldn't have
Speaker 1: done anything. It was David Wilson. They actually tried to
Speaker 1: work him more back into the game plan and he
Speaker 1: was just getting swallowed up in the backfield. Actually got
Speaker 1: a penalty called down him because he spiked the ball
Speaker 1: in frustration at one point after getting swallowed up for
Speaker 1: a four yard loss. I mean, it was just it
Speaker 1: was I couldn't believe how bad it was. And the
Speaker 1: other thing, the Panthers, uh front line is awesome, you know,
Speaker 1: they they they're showing it week after week. The Giants,
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened to their pass rush. I
Speaker 1: understand Pierre Paul is not himself, but in general, they
Speaker 1: you know, Newton had all day was comfortable, just an
Speaker 1: all around bad effort. Their first own three start since
Speaker 1: ninety six, which was the last year of the Dan
Speaker 1: Reeves era. Justin Tuck hasn't been a good player in
Speaker 1: a couple of years either. Not that you need any
Speaker 1: more proof, but you would always rather have a terrible
Speaker 1: secondary than a terrible defensive line, because the Panthers couldn't
Speaker 1: have worse players in their secondary. And when you're that
Speaker 1: good up front, it doesn't matter at all. Star Latula
Speaker 1: should have been a top three overall pick in the drafts.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Westling, his former love the Cincinnati Bengals, UH,
Speaker 1: I would say the other you know, maybe the biggest
Speaker 1: game of the week, Uh, in terms of an impact.
Speaker 1: The Bengals take down the Packers at home. Tell us
Speaker 1: about it. It was a turnover fest. The Bengals had
Speaker 1: uh jumped out to a fourteen to nothing lead thanks
Speaker 1: to in in small part because the Packers had a
Speaker 1: fumble on their opening kickoff. UH. They jump out. Packers
Speaker 1: score thirty points in a row after the Bengals have
Speaker 1: four turnovers, and then the Packers basically are running running
Speaker 1: away with the game, have a chance to win. Jonathan
Speaker 1: Franklin fumbles, the Bengals take it back fifty eight yards
Speaker 1: and that one play basically changed the outcome. The Aaron Rodgers,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at the box scores in the Gabbard zone.
Speaker 1: How how did this happen? And then for everyone out there,
Speaker 1: that's that's the yards per attempt somewhere in the fives
Speaker 1: or maybe under. I think it's getting to the point
Speaker 1: we don't have to explain it anymore. America knows what
Speaker 1: the gabber zone is by now. Mike Zimmer's defense was swarming. Uh,
Speaker 1: Michael Johnson really put uh David back tr on a
Speaker 1: in a clown suit. Um Rogers was sacked four times,
Speaker 1: hit probably a dozen or more times, and Uh, the
Speaker 1: Bengals front front four just really dominated trenches. I look
Speaker 1: at Green Bay and I don't like for you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a Browns fan when my team is a week
Speaker 1: four by that, but it feels too early and it's
Speaker 1: just like, listen, a lot more stuff happens. I want
Speaker 1: the break to come a little later. This guy, this
Speaker 1: team needs to buy this. This week around, they had
Speaker 1: Jeremy Ross, a wide receiver, playing running back on the
Speaker 1: final few plays of the game because Franklin twisted his
Speaker 1: ankle or something. Starks was Starks injured his knee. Jare
Speaker 1: Michael Finley was concussed. Clay Matthews tweaked his hamstring. Uh
Speaker 1: it sat out the second half, and that may have
Speaker 1: been the difference in the game too. Matthews forced fumbles
Speaker 1: on back to back Bengals possessions in the second quarter.
Speaker 1: Bengals come back, I mean backers are shutting them down.
Speaker 1: They come back with two touchdown at the end of
Speaker 1: the third quarter and started the fourth quarter with Matthew
Speaker 1: with Matthews on the sideline, that was a big injury.
Speaker 1: This has becoming a thing with them starting the season slow.
Speaker 1: Happened last year. Didn't make a difference. Happen even when
Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl, didn't make a difference. So
Speaker 1: I'm not too worried. What about the Bengals, though, I mean,
Speaker 1: shouldn't shouldn't we be giving them a lot of credit
Speaker 1: for this game? I mean, this is a game that
Speaker 1: everyone kind of figured the Packers would home or not.
Speaker 1: They were going to take care of business because they're
Speaker 1: the better team. And now this Bagels team credit for
Speaker 1: not going away. When the Packers scored thirty points in
Speaker 1: a row to make it thirty to fourteen. Uh, they
Speaker 1: kept they kept in it and kept getting after Rogers.
Speaker 1: One other takeaway from this game is that Marvin Lewis
Speaker 1: actually want a challenge and a key one that that's
Speaker 1: pretty rare for mar Marvin's actually on the Coaches podcast
Speaker 1: on Monday with our with our friends. We're helping out
Speaker 1: the podcast family here. Alright, Greg just got paid seven
Speaker 1: dollars for that. Alright, let's move on. I I got
Speaker 1: another good one. The Dallas Cowboys absolutely whooped the St.
Speaker 1: Louis Rams and I don't want to hear it is
Speaker 1: a good one. You love the Cowboys, I don't want to.
Speaker 1: I don't love the Cowboys. Closet Cowboys fan, like every
Speaker 1: Yankees fan out there, that is ridiculous. In every show
Speaker 1: where Greg gets up out of this chair and rotates
Speaker 1: around the room to make a point, I know that
Speaker 1: that is baseless and rude. Quite frankly. Um. I do
Speaker 1: enjoy watching the Cowboys because they are kind of like
Speaker 1: NFL tragic theater with a lot of big name stars
Speaker 1: attached to the vehicle. But uh, you know, listen, this
Speaker 1: was a good day to be a Cowboys fan because
Speaker 1: they talked all week about they needed to get more
Speaker 1: balanced in their offense, and then they came out they
Speaker 1: gave the ball to DeMarco Murray twenty six times he
Speaker 1: ran for uh well over a hundred yards. They ran
Speaker 1: I think a hundred seventy five yards a dred yards
Speaker 1: in total. And when the Cowboys have that type of
Speaker 1: offense going on the ground, they're in good shape because
Speaker 1: they have so many weapons throwing the ball so a
Speaker 1: dominating effort. And I don't want to hear anything else
Speaker 1: about the NFC West having you know, top to bottom
Speaker 1: talent and great teams because the Rams now it's a
Speaker 1: second straight week where they were down twenty four nothing
Speaker 1: at one point that they doesn't This doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: a team that is going to hang around in the
Speaker 1: playoff picture. And one other thing, Jake Long gave him
Speaker 1: a lot of money. He got destroyed today and you know,
Speaker 1: he gave up sacks and he doesn't look anything close
Speaker 1: to what he was, so that that might not be
Speaker 1: a great signing. It's the third week in a row
Speaker 1: where Tavon Austin had a very pedestrian game, and it's
Speaker 1: too early to make any sort of a judgment there.
Speaker 1: I think he's still gonna probably explode at some point,
Speaker 1: But I mean, what are you seeing from him? He
Speaker 1: was he had six catches, but they were so quiet.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember seeing all of them. They were
Speaker 1: for thirty yards. So talk about Gabbard zone. You know,
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin was supposed to be the most exciting player
Speaker 1: UH in the league on some level potentially, but we
Speaker 1: haven't seen that yet. But that might be they just
Speaker 1: haven't figured out how to use them yet. Last week,
Speaker 1: well last week I called Jeremy Curly a poor man's
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin. Do we need to flip that around because
Speaker 1: Curly's got it going off. I don't know they I
Speaker 1: don't know if we should count out to have in
Speaker 1: Austin yet. But unbalanced. It was just not a good
Speaker 1: showing by the Rams offense. They were just badly beating.
Speaker 1: This game was over by the second quarter. How would
Speaker 1: we regard to Marco Murray if not for the St.
Speaker 1: Louis Rams. He has one fourth of his career yards
Speaker 1: in two games against the Rams. Yeah, he looked good
Speaker 1: and they and they gave the ball to him. He
Speaker 1: rushed for forty eight yards on their first drive of
Speaker 1: the game, which maxed out That beat their total for
Speaker 1: the entire week before. So I imagine they're gonna continue
Speaker 1: to that trend and try to give him the ball
Speaker 1: early and and establish a tone that way. But there
Speaker 1: wasn't much else to take out of this. I do
Speaker 1: think it's interesting this is the first year the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have started too and oh at home at that new building.
Speaker 1: Maybe they finally could have a home field advantage because
Speaker 1: that has not been a very kind place to them.
Speaker 1: But that was that game. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: what happened to the Rams defense. So I mean, because
Speaker 1: this was supposed to be going into the into the year,
Speaker 1: maybe one of those units that contends to be a
Speaker 1: top five group, and this three straight pretty poor performances.
Speaker 1: They also, yeah, and they also went into this game.
Speaker 1: I think they were ranked six against the run, so
Speaker 1: maybe this was an anomaly this game. But uh yeah,
Speaker 1: they couldn't stop Romo. He threw for three touchdowns and
Speaker 1: Romo's quietly. I know he made some mistakes last week,
Speaker 1: but he's putting up really good numbers again and we
Speaker 1: might be looking at another Tony Romo excellent statistical season
Speaker 1: and people have to decide whether that makes him a
Speaker 1: great quarterback. But he's not paced for that um, so
Speaker 1: that's what it was. Both. It was just the dominating effort.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move forward, Mark Sessler. Cleveland Browns traded
Speaker 1: the face of their franchise. Uh this week. Everyone thought
Speaker 1: they were gonna give up. Instead, they go into Minnesota
Speaker 1: and they win. How did that happen? Well, I'm not
Speaker 1: quite sure. I did watch the game, and it caught
Speaker 1: me by surprise. It was a weird game, honestly, and
Speaker 1: Cleveland kind of dumped the playbook. I mean they were
Speaker 1: running end arounds, they were running I saw a fake punt,
Speaker 1: they did a fake field goal, I mean it all.
Speaker 1: They capitalized on each of these plays. For me, the
Speaker 1: big takeaway before we drilled on into any other part
Speaker 1: of it, was that for a first year head coach,
Speaker 1: after what happened this week, and probably a locker room
Speaker 1: that was, if not divided, heading that way, I thought
Speaker 1: Rob Chazinski coached a hell of a game. He did,
Speaker 1: and I think that they he went out and got
Speaker 1: two good coordinators and Norv Turner and Ray Horton. And
Speaker 1: Horton especially hearing what he said during the week, what
Speaker 1: he said to his defensive side of the ball, that
Speaker 1: defense is very talented. Up front, they shut down Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 1: They kept him in check. At least They had six
Speaker 1: sacks today, all from six different players. They hit Christian
Speaker 1: Ponder over and over. And I know it's quick. People
Speaker 1: want to talk about Brian Hoyer X Y and Z
Speaker 1: Horyer is gonna come back down to earth, But this
Speaker 1: is defense. I think it actually has some real talent
Speaker 1: to hang its hat on. How about your making the
Speaker 1: leap guys, your two choices both from the brows. Jordan
Speaker 1: Cameron three touchdowns, Josh Gordon comes back into the lineup
Speaker 1: and really changed this entire offense. Yeah, I see, I'm
Speaker 1: not even sure. I'm not sure Gordon even watches tape
Speaker 1: or studies. He just very physically talented. And I mean
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he doesn't. He just seems like the
Speaker 1: guy has been suspended. He comes back and he makes
Speaker 1: an immediate impact. We saw that beginning last season. You know,
Speaker 1: this is the first hundred yard game though he's had
Speaker 1: since college and he didn't play a senior year in college,
Speaker 1: so it's been a while. But he's shown that explosive
Speaker 1: When it comes to to uh Cameron, I thought, oh,
Speaker 1: initially or they're using Cameron very well, but that's another
Speaker 1: extremely gifted athlete who actually can catch the ball. It's
Speaker 1: not just one of these basketball playing guys are gonna
Speaker 1: try to turn into a tight end. It's happened again
Speaker 1: for North Turner. After three weeks. It looks like he
Speaker 1: has a tight end that can make some incredible catches.
Speaker 1: He's done it every week no matter who the quarterback is.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they have some parts in place. And and
Speaker 1: the running game was a complet like, I mean, an
Speaker 1: ultra committee effort. They had five different guys run for
Speaker 1: a hundred and three cards and you know, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure that's going to be their strong point. Obvious On
Speaker 1: the other side of the ball, Christian Ponder, are we
Speaker 1: heading toward a benching? Well, we said that in the
Speaker 1: news room. I thought that Josh Freeman is on the
Speaker 1: verge of a benching, but Ponder really number one. It's
Speaker 1: a tough watch in that building because the Vikings fans
Speaker 1: are on Ponder immediately, and he gave them a lot
Speaker 1: of reason today. I mean, he's he's he did some
Speaker 1: things that are gritty, but he's still Christian Ponder. And
Speaker 1: it's almost like you're watching like a Barry Sanders in
Speaker 1: the old Detroit Lions offense where it doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson does, and defensive defenses are starting just to
Speaker 1: test Ponder and he can't get it done. He threw
Speaker 1: too many off kilter passes, he threw some terrible interceptions today.
Speaker 1: He killed drives about the state of the Browns. Fan though,
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like this whole podcast was just
Speaker 1: for play, getting us up to the Browns and Settler's
Speaker 1: emotion and and is as it, are you feeling some
Speaker 1: hope after this? I just well, I mean again, I honestly,
Speaker 1: I think that they were laughing. They you know, the
Speaker 1: Jets for Dan have been a complete laughing stock in
Speaker 1: the Cleveland this week has been so heavily questioned for
Speaker 1: what they did, and it's still to be seen if
Speaker 1: that was a disastrous move or not. I like Chud's
Speaker 1: ability to handle the challenge and to keep his team
Speaker 1: very focused. They played really hard for him. I'm not
Speaker 1: sure what else to take out from that. I like that.
Speaker 1: We'll see where it goes. And for the record, Trent
Speaker 1: Richardson thirty five yards on thirteen carries in San Francisco today,
Speaker 1: scored a touchdown, but average two point seven yards per
Speaker 1: carry that smells familiar. So this is Brian Hoyer's team
Speaker 1: until he has a debacle. I think it's I think
Speaker 1: it's probably fair to question if Brandon Weeden will ever
Speaker 1: play again. I don't think it's anyone's team because they're
Speaker 1: going to ever play again. In totality, for Cleveland, they're
Speaker 1: gonna close to the end of his career chronicle, it's
Speaker 1: question if I'll ever start again. But Cleveland, obviously we
Speaker 1: heard this from everyone from rap Sheet to Mike Silver,
Speaker 1: and they're clearly heat seeking a quarterback in the draft.
Speaker 1: But they have a backup in Hoyer at this point
Speaker 1: that I think they believe in much more than anyone
Speaker 1: else in the team. Wouldn't it be funny if the
Speaker 1: Steelers beat him to Teddy Bridgewater. I was thinking about that.
Speaker 1: I was thinking about that, all right, Mark. You also
Speaker 1: watched the New England Patriots, UH easily dispatched the Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers three and Foxborough. What a great schedule the
Speaker 1: Pats have had early on. I honestly give this much
Speaker 1: more to New England's defense. I think that they sneakily
Speaker 1: have built a really um athletic young group that seems
Speaker 1: a little different than past Patriots defenses. To me, uh,
Speaker 1: they completely took the Bucks out of this game right away,
Speaker 1: and that's part on that's on Freeman to some degree.
Speaker 1: He was really a mess. And we saw Mike Glennan
Speaker 1: warming up in the third quarter, and Greg and I
Speaker 1: we started to work up a post because it seemed
Speaker 1: sure that they were gonna make a switch, and we
Speaker 1: talked before the game. We thought this might be the
Speaker 1: week that would happen. I'm pretty sure that will happen
Speaker 1: next week. That's my guests that that Glennan will start week.
Speaker 1: For what's the point of you know, what's the point
Speaker 1: of keeping Josh Freeman around at this point there? Oh
Speaker 1: and three, it's clear that he's lost support within his
Speaker 1: own building and his coach doesn't like him. You gotta
Speaker 1: do something to save your season. I wish more quarterbacks
Speaker 1: could get traded during the season, but it's so hard
Speaker 1: with learning an offense. But to me, he can play
Speaker 1: better than he's played at that relationship has just ruined.
Speaker 1: I agree so much, because he'll do things. You know,
Speaker 1: early in the game, he and Vincent Jackson and Mike Williams,
Speaker 1: they were testing New England's cornerbacks and having some success
Speaker 1: and in the when they're hot. That's why they're hot,
Speaker 1: because he finds ways to make big plays with his
Speaker 1: white outs. I love his arm. It's just that he's
Speaker 1: so he's so scattershot. He throws the ball sometimes with
Speaker 1: such poor decision making and that and I think that
Speaker 1: that his head is not on the right place in Tampa.
Speaker 1: Right now, you're right? All right? Now comes the point
Speaker 1: in the Sunday Night podcast where we reach out to
Speaker 1: our Chicago based at L writer, the great Kevin Patra
Speaker 1: k rich is Patrick ready to speak with us? I
Speaker 1: spoke to him to four and he seems ready, all right? Anxious? Wow?
Speaker 1: Is that true, Patra? It's all I'm always anxious to
Speaker 1: speak with you. Room full of heroes, especially after Alliance victory.
Speaker 1: I can hear a little pep in your voice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I pep after a good victory. I can imagine Patra
Speaker 1: right now and like a Chicago cigar shop, smoking one
Speaker 1: with common, just hanging out enjoying. Really nice look it up,
Speaker 1: a really nice victory. Uh. But for the lines. But
Speaker 1: let's start with the other game. We're gonna get to
Speaker 1: the Lions who the game. You also watched. But let's
Speaker 1: start with the New Orleans Saints. Um took care of
Speaker 1: business at home against the Arizona Cardinals. What did you
Speaker 1: see there, Kevin taking care of business is a great
Speaker 1: way to put up you know what? Thank you? Drew
Speaker 1: Brees reminds me of watching Floyd made one despight, you
Speaker 1: know the other the other guy might have a few
Speaker 1: jobs in the beginning, but at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you know that you know what the outcome is gonna be.
Speaker 1: The Cardinals hung in there in the beginning. They they
Speaker 1: got a couple of sacks, they had four sack in
Speaker 1: the game. They got some pressure, but you know, they
Speaker 1: had a couple of injury. Sam Mastro left to the game,
Speaker 1: and then Bree just picked them apart. And they got
Speaker 1: no answers for Jimmy Graham. I mean, whether they put
Speaker 1: Peterson on him, Matthew on him. I don't even know
Speaker 1: if Free would have seen Matthew behind Jimmy Graham on
Speaker 1: a couple of prows. And how about the defense? And
Speaker 1: again my favorite weekly segment, does Chris Wesley believe in
Speaker 1: Bad Santa And the biggest defensive turnaround in the history
Speaker 1: of the NFL Greg's stand for me. At the moment,
Speaker 1: I have no prepared statement, but I will say I
Speaker 1: was wrong about the Saints defense. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: Cameron Jordan was going to turn into j J. Watt
Speaker 1: this year victory. He was an absolute beast. He's been
Speaker 1: a beast all year and I didn't see it coming. Yeah,
Speaker 1: him and Junior Glad just set up in the in
Speaker 1: the Cardinals backfield. I mean, Carson Palmer had like no
Speaker 1: time to throw. He had like one beat and it
Speaker 1: was out and it was gone, it was over with
Speaker 1: he had people in his face all day. He had
Speaker 1: so many throwaways that it couldn't even count them all.
Speaker 1: And how about the Saints, you know, not given a
Speaker 1: chance to win this division by many in this room.
Speaker 1: At least now up a couple of games in the NFC.
Speaker 1: South Falcons are struggling a little bit. They're one of
Speaker 1: the early stories in the NFL. They certainly are that.
Speaker 1: I mean, when every time you have Breeze in the game,
Speaker 1: you got a chance, and Shawn Fay is coming back,
Speaker 1: the play calling has been good, the running games to
Speaker 1: awesome question marks. I think Breeze was actually the leader
Speaker 1: at half time with when he knelt to go into
Speaker 1: half with a negative yard had four carries in the
Speaker 1: first half. But other than that, you know, you can
Speaker 1: nit pick all you want, but it's breeze this team.
Speaker 1: He's gonna throw it and through it all day on
Speaker 1: a on a team that has played a decent defense
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. So do you think we
Speaker 1: should buy in on the Saints? Is a real player?
Speaker 1: I'm buying in. I was I thought they would. They would,
Speaker 1: they would be a wild card team to begin with
Speaker 1: with Peyton coming back. But this team seems like I
Speaker 1: have it all. The defense is short up so far,
Speaker 1: they haven't really facing powered one year. We'll see when
Speaker 1: they come against the Falcons. But I mean right now,
Speaker 1: they're they're just all over all over the past rush
Speaker 1: is great. It's helping out the backside right now. Tonight
Speaker 1: they looked unbeatable. Don't look now, but either the Dolphins
Speaker 1: or the Saints will be four and oh after next week.
Speaker 1: That's a good game, okay, And now let's let's move
Speaker 1: on to your other game. You watched your Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: take care of his over the Redskins. What did you see? Yeah? Um,
Speaker 1: you know we can focus on r G three. I
Speaker 1: think you know he played. He played pretty well for
Speaker 1: a guy in his third game back. I think that
Speaker 1: his storyline is a little overblown, knit picking. He did
Speaker 1: have two turnovers that were killer, but he looked all right.
Speaker 1: He only ran two two designed runs and it's as
Speaker 1: other other four runs were a couple scrambles. The big problem,
Speaker 1: you know, the big turnover when he scrambled for twenty
Speaker 1: one yards and then go forward instead of sliding when
Speaker 1: he was trying to give himself up and fumbled. That
Speaker 1: was a huge play in the game. But he looked
Speaker 1: all right. He still doesn't have everything on his on
Speaker 1: his balls. He did have a nice deep throw that
Speaker 1: got touched on the gout overturned. But he's coming along,
Speaker 1: you and see as he gets more reps, he's gonna
Speaker 1: get better. He just we just gotta give him time.
Speaker 1: Our expectations for him coming this season were overblown, but
Speaker 1: their own though. I mean, at some point they're gonna
Speaker 1: have to start winning some games, right, But the problem
Speaker 1: is not with him. I didn't see in this game
Speaker 1: and stared. Their defense was just awful. I mean, the
Speaker 1: lines didn't even take take that all the opportunities that
Speaker 1: they were presented. The angelaw the early pick for score,
Speaker 1: but after that, the Lions in the past game we're
Speaker 1: getting I mean, the Redskins secondary literally lost neb Brilison
Speaker 1: on like at least two or three plays where he
Speaker 1: went for big yards. Brolson had a hundred hundred six
Speaker 1: yards catching receiving, I mean, and from the Lions perspective,
Speaker 1: they needed that boots. With Reggie Bush out of the game,
Speaker 1: they needed somebody that could be second fiddled to Calvin Johnson,
Speaker 1: and Joyce Belt wasn't going to be that guy. He
Speaker 1: did have twenty carries and still only one for sixty
Speaker 1: three yards. Their run game isn't gonna be anything, but
Speaker 1: that Redskins secondary just couldn't handle. Young guys were getting
Speaker 1: burned all day. How did r G three's look on
Speaker 1: that thirty five yard run or however long it was, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, he actually look he got he had some
Speaker 1: bursts he went, but he dropped back. There was some pressure.
Speaker 1: He came up. He had hit a quick burst, because
Speaker 1: that's what I was looking for in the run. I
Speaker 1: was like, We'll see how far he gets, and he
Speaker 1: looked like he had the burst that we saw last year.
Speaker 1: Maybe it wasn't as immediate, but he had some momentum going.
Speaker 1: He outran a few guys that had a little bit
Speaker 1: of angle on and then when he saw him conversion,
Speaker 1: he do he dope? Had person fumbled? He looked like
Speaker 1: that was good. If he s that he had slid properly,
Speaker 1: that would have been the play we've seen on the highlights,
Speaker 1: if they would have punched it in and said, oh,
Speaker 1: look he's back Kevin. So the Redskins give up one thousand,
Speaker 1: four hundred and sixty four yards in three games, the
Speaker 1: most in NFL history. Are you concerned that the Lions
Speaker 1: scored only twenty seven points? And you know I could,
Speaker 1: I couldn't pick on that, and I you know I
Speaker 1: usually usually do. I mean, the run game was obviously
Speaker 1: concerned against a rush defense that had given up major
Speaker 1: yard in the first two weeks of the season, and
Speaker 1: they couldn't do anything on twenty three carries. Reggie Bush,
Speaker 1: I mean, then he's to be saying, I mean, give
Speaker 1: the guys a break here. They hadn't. This is their
Speaker 1: first franchise victory in Washington, right first d I was
Speaker 1: raising my hands to that one. How is that possible
Speaker 1: first win against the Redskins since they were the Boston Braves.
Speaker 1: No one, it beats the Lions twenty two straight times
Speaker 1: in Washington, doesn't happen? Um? All right, Kevin? And and finally,
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear your thoughts. I'll give you about
Speaker 1: five minutes to explain your thoughts on the Redskins name,
Speaker 1: whether it should be changed. No, just kidding. You can
Speaker 1: just call him the Washington Griffins, since says all anybody
Speaker 1: seems to care about anyway. Alright, good answer, h Kevin,
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. You could go back to whatever
Speaker 1: you're doing there. We'll watch this great sun in a
Speaker 1: football game. Alright, Moving right along. Always nice to talk
Speaker 1: to Kevin Patrick, but we need to move along. We
Speaker 1: have Greg Rosenthal tell us about Wow. Greg is excited,
Speaker 1: but he might even stand up for a third time
Speaker 1: in one podcast. The Miami Dolphins take care of business
Speaker 1: at home three win over the Falcons. Well, I'm not
Speaker 1: just excited about the Tannehill bandwaggings starting to fill up
Speaker 1: that we talked about last week as a as a
Speaker 1: big narrative. But you know, you mentioned the NFC West,
Speaker 1: mentioned that as the greatest division on Earth, you know
Speaker 1: before the season, and how about the a f C
Speaker 1: East is undefeated out of the division this year six
Speaker 1: and oh a f C East. Uh. This game was
Speaker 1: one of those games that reminded me of a Falcons
Speaker 1: win from a year ago. The Dolphins were down the
Speaker 1: whole game. The Falcons look like the better team. They
Speaker 1: controlled the line of scrimmage, they hit Tannehill a ton,
Speaker 1: A lot of good things were happening. They're running the
Speaker 1: ball well, and then at the end, Tannehill is the
Speaker 1: one who plays his best, has a great touchdown drive
Speaker 1: to win the game. They kind of snuck this one out.
Speaker 1: They barely had the ball in the game, and it's
Speaker 1: just kind of another step in this team's development now
Speaker 1: that they're figuring out ways to win games that they
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have won. What is Jeff Ireland going to
Speaker 1: get his contract extension because he's built a juggernaut've like
Speaker 1: six days. You better lock him up soon because otherwise,
Speaker 1: you know, team's gonna step in and get Ireland. I
Speaker 1: was flipping over to this game every once in a
Speaker 1: while because I was stuck with the Jaguars Seahawks mismatch.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hanging their listeners because we're getting there. And
Speaker 1: it seemed to be that the Falcons just blew so
Speaker 1: many opportunities where they settled for a field goal instead
Speaker 1: of a touchdown. And I guess my question is I
Speaker 1: saw the first two games that I think Tony Gonzalez
Speaker 1: looks slower this year. They didn't. Apparently they weren't looking
Speaker 1: for him in the in the end zone. This because
Speaker 1: he's usually Matt Ryan's fallback guy in the end zone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's at the great point. He had twenty four yards
Speaker 1: in this game, and they looked like they were making
Speaker 1: a concerted effort to get him involved. On the first
Speaker 1: drive of the game, I think he had three catches,
Speaker 1: and after that he was totally not to be found.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're leading receiver after Julio Jones with Jason Snelling,
Speaker 1: and can I make one point on that. I understand
Speaker 1: Tony Gonzalez earned the right or something to sit out
Speaker 1: all of offseason training and the most of training camp,
Speaker 1: but you know, this isn't a relief pitcher or something
Speaker 1: where he just needs a couple appearances to get ready
Speaker 1: or you know, this is a this is a professional
Speaker 1: football player, a tight end. I mean you figure at
Speaker 1: that advanced age, the guy would need a full training
Speaker 1: camp to be ready for the season. I might put
Speaker 1: something into the fact that this guy basically disappeared for
Speaker 1: the summer and now, all of a sudden he was
Speaker 1: supposed to still be Tony Gonzalz didn't his statistically best
Speaker 1: season after pulling the same stunt. It's a little different, though,
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks different too. To me. I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're a skill position player at at tight end,
Speaker 1: you know, I get some rep that's a fair point.
Speaker 1: Hasn't reached the hundred yards on the season yet after
Speaker 1: three games, he's under ten yards per catch, and they
Speaker 1: need him so badly right now because Roddy White's out
Speaker 1: there limping on one leg. Uh. They were, like you
Speaker 1: mentioned in the red zone, they were two for five.
Speaker 1: The Dolphins were three for three, and that was kind
Speaker 1: of the story. If I had to ask you to
Speaker 1: sum up why the Falcons for one and two in
Speaker 1: like one or two sentences, what would you say? I
Speaker 1: would say they're shorthanded on offense. That would be it.
Speaker 1: I mean, White's not there. You know, they didn't really
Speaker 1: miss Steve Jackson today. Gonzalez isn't the same Sam Baker.
Speaker 1: Their left tackles not there. They're not protecting him, and
Speaker 1: so they're they're a shorthanded team right now. It seems
Speaker 1: like they actually protected Ryan better without Sam Baker. Well
Speaker 1: they were. They were just getting rid of the ball. Though.
Speaker 1: They're changing their whole offense to me too adjust for
Speaker 1: all their shortcomings. I mean, they're they're throwing dink and dug,
Speaker 1: not going down the field at all. I hope Mrs
Speaker 1: Baker's not listening to this in particular, she's a big
Speaker 1: fan of Lyle the intern um and any any other
Speaker 1: word Greg about Ryan Tannehill before we move on. This
Speaker 1: wasn't his best game even and and they found a
Speaker 1: way to win. He had a couple of beautiful throws
Speaker 1: on the touchdown drive, and he's had a knack for
Speaker 1: you know, he's now. He did it versus Seattle last year,
Speaker 1: he did it versus Indianapolis. So it wasn't even his
Speaker 1: best game and they won. I think that's a good
Speaker 1: sign for them. I could just see Ryan with Lauren
Speaker 1: on relaxing on a sofa bed right now, fourteen dogs
Speaker 1: around them, enjoying life. Probably not life at this point.
Speaker 1: I have a question for you, Dan, do you plan
Speaker 1: on skipping the Titans and Chargers game? Do you want
Speaker 1: me to? I just thought that would be like in
Speaker 1: the one o'clock games. He's asking you to segue directly
Speaker 1: into that game. Well, let's talk about it then, because
Speaker 1: clearly I didn't. I didn't make a mistake. It was
Speaker 1: something I was planning all along. But why did you
Speaker 1: tell us about that game? Chris Wesley? This was you
Speaker 1: could say it was Jake Locker's coming out party. If
Speaker 1: you believe that Jake Locker is really coming out, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure I do. We we talked about Josh Freeman
Speaker 1: his erratic scatter shot throwing. Whenever Jake Locker goes back
Speaker 1: to throw, I feel like there's a fifty it's gonna
Speaker 1: be within five yards of the wide receiver. And this
Speaker 1: was probably his most impressive game as an NFL quarterback,
Speaker 1: and uh I spent the first three quarters wondering if
Speaker 1: he would complete his passes. Is this a team that's
Speaker 1: quietly going to go draft a quarterback in April and
Speaker 1: get an end the Jake Locker experiment. I think it's
Speaker 1: way too early to even Hanzard, a guest on that
Speaker 1: it depict It fully depends on what happens the next
Speaker 1: thirteen games. Wait, why we they won? They won? Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he is a limiting part of their offense and
Speaker 1: MPIs through the Touchdow. I don't think it's a coincidence
Speaker 1: that he played his best drive when Kenny Britt was
Speaker 1: watching him from the sidelines. Kenny Britt has been I mean,
Speaker 1: you could make the argument he's the worst starter in
Speaker 1: the NFL this year. And how about the Chargers blowing
Speaker 1: another game? I mean, I feel Dan's hero picked Paine
Speaker 1: from week one where he picked the Chargers. I had
Speaker 1: them as my hero pick today. Never picked the Chargers.
Speaker 1: Why did they do anything coaching wise that that led
Speaker 1: to this? Yes they did? Uh they pulled a Ron Rivera. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they had the lead and it wasn't a big lead.
Speaker 1: It was a four point lead. They ran Ryan Matthews
Speaker 1: six straight runs. They had a third down in semi long.
Speaker 1: They didn't even attempt to pass it. They just ran
Speaker 1: Ryan Matthews into the line to try to basically, did
Speaker 1: dare Jake Locker to beat him in a two minute drill?
Speaker 1: And he did it. They went conservative on offense. What
Speaker 1: a weird start. I mean there there are a couple
Speaker 1: of plays away from being three and oh now I'm
Speaker 1: not going as far as Dan to never picked them again,
Speaker 1: but w that one cut deep, Mike McCoy, he's done.
Speaker 1: He's taken two hero picks from the A T. L crew.
Speaker 1: Let's let's not ever forget that, all right, West, Thank
Speaker 1: you for reminding me, although I always knew it was
Speaker 1: never a mistake. Um Now, one mistake you want to
Speaker 1: talk about mistakes? The New York Jets one today they
Speaker 1: have over the Bills, but they committed twenty penalties for
Speaker 1: one and sixty eight yards. That is not only that's
Speaker 1: a team record, Uh good job, Rex, and also just
Speaker 1: two penalty shy of the NFL record for penalties in
Speaker 1: a game. Um So, if there's if there's a way
Speaker 1: to be disappointed by a win, I suppose you could
Speaker 1: be on that on that level as a coach. But
Speaker 1: they're not going to give it back. Geno Smith vers
Speaker 1: EJ Manuel. The two rookie quarterbacks, Uh Gino outplayed uh Manual,
Speaker 1: There's no way around it. A lot of that went
Speaker 1: back to the Jets defense, who always seemed to play
Speaker 1: well against the Bills, especially at home, and in this case,
Speaker 1: Rex did a good job. It was clear that Manuel
Speaker 1: was never comfortable. Comfortable he did not play a good game.
Speaker 1: And Uh Gino Smith is the first Jets rookie ever
Speaker 1: uh to throw for over three hundred yards and two
Speaker 1: touchdowns in a game. And he got a lot of
Speaker 1: that yardage a long bomb to Stephen Hill for a
Speaker 1: touchdown who actually caught it and that was stunning. And
Speaker 1: then Santonio Holmes. The biggest takeaway for the Jets is
Speaker 1: Holmes looks healthy. Uh. He had, he went over a
Speaker 1: hundred yards, I believe went over one fifty and uh
Speaker 1: the game winning touchdown ultimately in the fourth quarter. He
Speaker 1: looks great and the first time you could say that
Speaker 1: in over a year. Hey gave it up for Rex.
Speaker 1: And after next week, either the Titans or the Jets
Speaker 1: will be three and one. So there's a good chance
Speaker 1: the Jets might be three and one. And the guy,
Speaker 1: for all of his all the controversy surrounding him, whether
Speaker 1: he's a buffoon or not, he could coach defense. There's
Speaker 1: no question he could coach defense. This was not a
Speaker 1: great game for Rex, though, I have to say the
Speaker 1: penalties always as a reflection to me of the of
Speaker 1: the coaching and also you have um he had two
Speaker 1: terrible challenges. He burned both his challenges by throwing the
Speaker 1: red flag over the span of about five real time
Speaker 1: minutes on two challenges that uh, there's no chance that
Speaker 1: Jets had to win, and then they ended up not
Speaker 1: being able to challenge a fumble by Buffalo. So you know, Rex,
Speaker 1: it's it's always a mixed bag with him. But you're right,
Speaker 1: I mean there two and one. I think it was ESPN.
Speaker 1: They're all their writers agreed the Jets with the worst
Speaker 1: team in football before the season started, and now they
Speaker 1: have a two and one record, and they could very
Speaker 1: easily get to three and one. So you know, on balanced,
Speaker 1: it was a good day for the Jets, but also
Speaker 1: you know, you can't get too excited. And and Gino,
Speaker 1: by the way, Gino did go over through into yards,
Speaker 1: but he also threw two bad interceptions. That's going to
Speaker 1: continue to happen, and when they play better teams, they're
Speaker 1: not gonna get away with that. One question for you.
Speaker 1: They've tried to replace Darrell Revas with a mixture of
Speaker 1: what Kyle Wilson and uh D Milner and A Millner
Speaker 1: is coming off being benched last week. What's what do
Speaker 1: you see at the cornerback position. I mean they're doing
Speaker 1: they're doing a good job making up for the loss
Speaker 1: of Rubs. You could they had. They actually played very poorly,
Speaker 1: I thought, especially in the first half against the Patriots
Speaker 1: in their secondary and the pats Is dysfunction on offense
Speaker 1: that night saved that game from getting out of hand early.
Speaker 1: But today they were a lot better. Cramarti is really
Speaker 1: and this carries over from last year, has become a
Speaker 1: top flight corner He's he's shutting down. Uh, he's shutting
Speaker 1: down the opposing number one a lot. And uh. You know,
Speaker 1: they have a good front line. The defenses. Like I've
Speaker 1: been saying, the defense is gonna keep them in games.
Speaker 1: I don't still don't think they're gonna win a lot
Speaker 1: of games, but they're gonna be close in a lot
Speaker 1: of games. Next up, Wes, you alluded to the game
Speaker 1: earlier the Seattle Seahawks. Somehow they managed to get by
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars at home. You know these games that
Speaker 1: we always they you think they're gonna be a blowout,
Speaker 1: they don't always end this way. This game went exactly
Speaker 1: how you thought it would go. Seahawks blew them out
Speaker 1: of the building. Their starters were out by the middle
Speaker 1: of the third quarter. And the key takeaway from was
Speaker 1: that Seattle we knew they had the deepest roster in
Speaker 1: the league. Their backups are better than the Jaguar starters.
Speaker 1: That says it all right there there. I mean and
Speaker 1: and Nougus Bradley revenge factor likes. Well, let me ask
Speaker 1: you one question. Has Chad Henny done anything to keep,
Speaker 1: of all people blame Gabbert from coming back into the
Speaker 1: starting seat. Chad Hanny looks exactly like Chad Hanny's always looked, uh,
Speaker 1: scatter shot, takes too many sacks, turns the ball over
Speaker 1: too much. He's both of those guys. You know who
Speaker 1: they are by now. Well, then part B or is
Speaker 1: it on the Jaguars for not having gone out after
Speaker 1: having these two quarterbacks last year, not going out before
Speaker 1: the season and getting someone else? No, because I just think,
Speaker 1: don't force the quarterback pick in the draft and you
Speaker 1: gotta wait to find the right quarterback. They're building up
Speaker 1: something and maybe it'll work out. Well. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like when the NBA teams tank and get the one
Speaker 1: pick and that takes us to the final game of Sunday.
Speaker 1: Oh boy, the Pittsburgh Steelers are in deep trouble. Um.
Speaker 1: We got back into the game, but got taken down
Speaker 1: ultimately by the Bears. Greg, what are you seeing here? Well,
Speaker 1: a lot of people are gonna talk about the Steelers
Speaker 1: being oh and three and that is a big story.
Speaker 1: And my Ben Roethlisberger m v P pick is beyond
Speaker 1: embarrassing at this point. But I want to point to
Speaker 1: the Bears. With the game on the line and everything
Speaker 1: seems to be crumbling. You know, Jake Cutler, Brandon Marshall,
Speaker 1: and Earl Bennett put together three of the prettiest third
Speaker 1: down plays you'll ever see. Cutler with a couple of
Speaker 1: great throws, one great run, terrific catch by Marshall. Bennett
Speaker 1: makes one of the best catches of the year to
Speaker 1: put the game away, and you just have to give
Speaker 1: the Bears team credit again for playing their best in
Speaker 1: the passing game when it matters. That touchdown pass to
Speaker 1: Bennett reminded me of the Santonio Homes touchdown in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Cutler had to put it in the exact
Speaker 1: right spot and he did. Um the the other takeaway
Speaker 1: for this game is the Bears. Henry Milton's one of
Speaker 1: their best defensive players. We saw him get carted off
Speaker 1: with what looks to be a really serious knee injury. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, we saw clayde kind of guaranteed his thirty
Speaker 1: three million before his season and in ending injury. And
Speaker 1: Melton is kind of the flip side of that. He
Speaker 1: decided to play out his contract and now, um, his
Speaker 1: earning power is probably gonna take a hit. And for me,
Speaker 1: what I take out of this game actually is in
Speaker 1: tandem with another well established NFL franchise that lost day,
Speaker 1: the Giants and the Steelers, two teams that you thought
Speaker 1: they were going to potentially save their season, right the
Speaker 1: ship both of them go down in flames. Uh. And
Speaker 1: these two flagship type teams, they're both their seasons are
Speaker 1: basically over. And I mean, it's pretty amazing to me
Speaker 1: that this is happening with these two teams. And the
Speaker 1: Steelers go to London to play the Vikings, Oh and
Speaker 1: three enjoy our winless teams. London fans, sorry about that.
Speaker 1: This is what you get for the things that you
Speaker 1: did to us like three years ago. I hope you're listening,
Speaker 1: handsome hank Um. Okay, so that is that is our
Speaker 1: our Sunday. Oh uh. There's one more game on the
Speaker 1: slate on Monday, the Oakland Denver matchup. We'll talk about
Speaker 1: that on Wednesday. Uh. And that's it for now. So
Speaker 1: signing off for the Mailman, Sizzler, the Boss, and Carack
Speaker 1: find the glass. We'll catch you, Linden