Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast trust sources with knowledge of
Speaker 1: the situation. Welcome back to another edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the League Podcast. My name is Dan hands As I
Speaker 1: am joined by a room filled with heroes, Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler, and Gregg Rosenthal. What's up boys, Happy Friday?
Speaker 1: You guys recovering from the downfall of the Eagles offense.
Speaker 1: They know, Mark, you know it's got to be tough,
Speaker 1: especially for you. Well, you know, I've got a great
Speaker 1: pr guy in Dan hanss that pulls one nugget out
Speaker 1: as the game starting, telling his you know, seven thousand
Speaker 1: followers on Twitter that sorry saying that I said they
Speaker 1: dropped fifty five points. I said it. I felt that way.
Speaker 1: I was wrong, and Deshan Jackson Nolan now only has
Speaker 1: thirteen games left to break three hundred yards multiple times.
Speaker 1: Just want to point that out. And also I don't
Speaker 1: want to I don't want to pile on, but the
Speaker 1: whole theory about Chip Kelly riding on a spaceship while
Speaker 1: everyone else is on horses, that might also be a
Speaker 1: premature statement by Mark. You know, I think with this
Speaker 1: team that we're gonna we're gonna see saw like overly
Speaker 1: positive and now we're going a little overly negative. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't. Actually, I'm not. I'm not. I didn't say
Speaker 1: that too to bury you. Mark. I I thought it
Speaker 1: was interesting you made that prediction, and I didn't think
Speaker 1: they were gonna lay an egg like they did yesterday.
Speaker 1: I know West was thinking the Chiefs defense really had
Speaker 1: a good chance to shut them down, and they did.
Speaker 1: But I to me, that was the biggest takeaway of
Speaker 1: Thursday night, which was, you know, we all thought what
Speaker 1: happened to the Revolution? What what happened to the Eagles?
Speaker 1: I thought that it was about the Chiefs defense myself,
Speaker 1: but I know from the collective wisdom of all the
Speaker 1: sports writers on Twitter did in fact, it's because the
Speaker 1: NFL has already figured Chip Kelly out after the first
Speaker 1: half of the Chiefs game, and this all offense of
Speaker 1: the Eagles will do nothing the rest of the year
Speaker 1: because Chip Kelly needs to go back to New Hampshire. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm joking with Mark. I think we do get
Speaker 1: a little carried weight. I I would take that that
Speaker 1: bet about Deshaun Jackson breaking three yards a couple of
Speaker 1: times or even once, but just because they had a
Speaker 1: bad game, I mean, look, they were still in that game,
Speaker 1: even though they turned the ball over five times, and
Speaker 1: they still had some explosive place. To me, it went
Speaker 1: back to something we talked about on Wednesday. Can Michael
Speaker 1: Vick be a great consistent quarterback like he was in
Speaker 1: that Chargers game for the most part, for sixteen games
Speaker 1: because he hasn't done that a lot in his career. Well,
Speaker 1: that's also what I was thinking, was, you know, uh
Speaker 1: Andy Reid went home to Philadelphia and he got his
Speaker 1: big win, and he has his quarterback that doesn't make
Speaker 1: mistakes and has a good defense and he's winning again.
Speaker 1: And Chip Kelly now he tied himself to Michael Vick.
Speaker 1: Vick did not look good yesterday at all. And I
Speaker 1: wonder if a if Vic is really ultimately the quarterback
Speaker 1: where it's always going to be a deal with the
Speaker 1: devil with him, where he has all these skills, but
Speaker 1: he's always a guy that's gonna bring you down in
Speaker 1: the end, and that I also think, you know McNabb
Speaker 1: you see him walking on the field at halftime. I
Speaker 1: think about him like maybe he's even a little looking back,
Speaker 1: a little underrated him and him and Reid were a
Speaker 1: good team and now you have Vic with Chip Kelly.
Speaker 1: Vic brought down Andy Reid. Now Vick is gonna bring
Speaker 1: down Chip Kelly hold number one. I I just I
Speaker 1: think that Kelly actually out here, he's done a nice
Speaker 1: job in the sense that he inherited almost all these
Speaker 1: players outside of a few that they picked up that
Speaker 1: he felt were real fits. Michael Vick is probably one
Speaker 1: of the better fits you're gonna find in the league
Speaker 1: among maybe five or six quarterbacks that I think would
Speaker 1: really really position themselves well in that offense. But Vick
Speaker 1: is Vick, and that's the problem we saw. We've seen
Speaker 1: the good side in the first couple of games. Outside
Speaker 1: of some miss targets. He was pretty good against the Chargers.
Speaker 1: I thought that was possibly the best passing game I've
Speaker 1: seen from him since that Monday Night blitz against the
Speaker 1: Redskins um three years ago or four years ago. And
Speaker 1: he was good on he was getting Week one overall too.
Speaker 1: But he's gonna give you this game. But that's what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like, ultimately, isn't that the thing with Vick?
Speaker 1: He's never going to just be throw out that one
Speaker 1: two thou ten season where he put it all together.
Speaker 1: But isn't he always gonna be this guy? Do you
Speaker 1: see some of the footwork yesterday, some of those throws
Speaker 1: into coverage. I mean, he's gonna kill them. But to
Speaker 1: say that Kelly has tied himself to VIC, they can
Speaker 1: get out of the renewed VIC contract with these and
Speaker 1: they'll find someone handcuffed Mansil next year, So it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I think this is a scheme team and VIC didn't
Speaker 1: make good decisions in terms of his reads last night,
Speaker 1: and they're counting on the scheme to get guys open.
Speaker 1: There aren't a lot of secondaries like the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs that can put three or four guys including a
Speaker 1: couple of safeties that can cover and just match you
Speaker 1: up one on one. I think that game really pointed
Speaker 1: out that Riley Cooper has got to be one of
Speaker 1: the worst number two wide receivers in the NFL. We
Speaker 1: heard a lot about how these tight ends were gonna
Speaker 1: be a big factor. They haven't been able to scheme
Speaker 1: anything for these guys the last couple of games, so
Speaker 1: they don't have many guys that can get open one
Speaker 1: on one, and so if you have a great secondary,
Speaker 1: maybe you can shut them down. But how many secondaries
Speaker 1: are there, like the Chiefs. They miss macwin. They do,
Speaker 1: they definitely do. And let's give the Chiefs and credit
Speaker 1: not none of us picked them. I mean, they weren't
Speaker 1: big underdogs in that game. We talked about how great
Speaker 1: their defense is and that they're legit, but we didn't
Speaker 1: We thought that they the Eagles offense would be too
Speaker 1: much for them. Well, that's funny. I mean, are the
Speaker 1: Chiefs real deals? Just a double digit win team? In
Speaker 1: your guys opinion is have they gotten over the hump? Here?
Speaker 1: Greg and I talked about this this morning when he
Speaker 1: came into the news room, that they we both picked
Speaker 1: them to win the division, but they looked to me,
Speaker 1: but we picked them to the playoffs, to the playoffs, right,
Speaker 1: They're gonna get to the playoffs in one of these
Speaker 1: nine and seven, ten and six seasons where they play
Speaker 1: this efficient style of ball. They obviously have strengths, especially
Speaker 1: on defense, but I see them just getting wiped away
Speaker 1: in a flood against a high scoring team in the playoff.
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna go wrong at some point. There's only two
Speaker 1: things I don't like about the Chiefs. Their quarterback and
Speaker 1: the number one overall draft pick. Yeah, he was. It's
Speaker 1: amazing that story has not been talked about now now
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit. But I got into work this morning.
Speaker 1: We're on the West Coast, so I figured there'd be
Speaker 1: some Eric Fisher stories flowing out there. There was nothing.
Speaker 1: I wrote it up. He gave up five pressures, two holds,
Speaker 1: two sacks. He is the sixty eight ranked Pro Football
Speaker 1: Focus tackle. I know they're not perfect, but the third,
Speaker 1: the second to last right tackle in the league, right
Speaker 1: behind Mark's boy, Mitchell Schwartz. Well. I I spent like
Speaker 1: three drives watching just him, because I do think on
Speaker 1: Twitter is sort of a bubble up the Fisher's you know,
Speaker 1: he's chaos last night and it's I'm not the world's
Speaker 1: greatest greater of offensive line talent. Well, thank you, but
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna too. I know what I saw though,
Speaker 1: is just he seemed to not follow through. He he
Speaker 1: hit a guy initially and stand around and people were
Speaker 1: just circling around him. And for me, the better line
Speaker 1: of guys that just they're at it long after the
Speaker 1: play ends. They're pushing guys out of the ways. My question,
Speaker 1: he obviously was a left tackle in college, probably a
Speaker 1: left tackle or something like that in high school. I mean,
Speaker 1: how how much do you put into the fact where
Speaker 1: this guy actually is learning a new position. Maybe he
Speaker 1: gets a little that. I don't want to downplay that,
Speaker 1: but I feel like there are plenty of guys that
Speaker 1: make that change seamlessly right and that's the right now.
Speaker 1: And he's struggling a little. He's struggling. So these two
Speaker 1: picks who are supposed to be a little safer are
Speaker 1: struggling earlier in the year, and that's a that's a
Speaker 1: huge story for the Chiefs long term. And also Alex
Speaker 1: Smith West, you brought it up. I mean, he was
Speaker 1: very tentative in general yesterday and the only thing that
Speaker 1: kept him out of the gabber zone was that the
Speaker 1: Eagles can't defend a crossing route to save their lives.
Speaker 1: Don Avery got most of his yards after the catch.
Speaker 1: It wasn't because Alex Smith was challenging them down the field.
Speaker 1: And I don't remember, you know, I asked West while
Speaker 1: we were watching the game last night. I was curious,
Speaker 1: was this the Alex Smith that was with the forty
Speaker 1: niners before Jim Harbaugh? Was he always this tentative and
Speaker 1: so willing to take the ball down and take the
Speaker 1: three yard game and get out of bounds or slide down.
Speaker 1: Because this guy is he's pretty tough to watch and
Speaker 1: he I wouldn't be surprised. I feel like that's conjuring
Speaker 1: some memories of pre Harbough Smith, which obviously is a
Speaker 1: very bad I mean, I think you're that tight end
Speaker 1: group for Kansas City. They had injuries, their paper thin
Speaker 1: you're missing a Vernon Davis in there, You're missing what
Speaker 1: was a crab tree. But yeah, I mean Smith is
Speaker 1: sort of Smith. And well he's also missing Dwyane bow
Speaker 1: who actually went missing. They actually they changed it that
Speaker 1: it was a search mission now now it's recouver Alex Smith.
Speaker 1: Before har hardball, he was turnover prone, he took chances.
Speaker 1: I think he's had it drilled into him now by
Speaker 1: two great coaching staffs that you're never going to win
Speaker 1: because you're not the kind of player that can do that.
Speaker 1: But it's smart. They're up well and they're winning games,
Speaker 1: and this is Alex Smith is the best evidence for that.
Speaker 1: Win losses is so overrated to evaluate a quarterback. Alex
Speaker 1: Smith has the highest winning percentage of any quarterback with
Speaker 1: twenty starts in the last three years, Alex Smith is
Speaker 1: number one one person who should not um when it
Speaker 1: comes to wins and losses should be properly evaluated. Andy
Speaker 1: Pettitt put him in the hall for you on that one. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll take your word on it. I don't. I'm gonna leave.
Speaker 1: Does anybody Does anybody have any other comments on this game?
Speaker 1: Before we move on to the rest of the Week
Speaker 1: three schedule, let's get to the previous all right, this
Speaker 1: is exciting, this is this is my favorite point of
Speaker 1: the week. Now we're gonna dig into Sunday. Um. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't say, Greg, would you say? This is a much
Speaker 1: lesser schedule than Week two. There aren't the headline games,
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of toss up interesting games
Speaker 1: we had. I know I had a really tough time
Speaker 1: picking the games this week. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys agree. I would agree with that. Well, coming off
Speaker 1: my fourteen and two, it's it's all everything so easily.
Speaker 1: It's almost like slow motion to me right now, no one,
Speaker 1: no one has ever crowed more about being in fourth
Speaker 1: place out of five in the pics. That's where um okay,
Speaker 1: So let's go through the schedule let's start. Let's start
Speaker 1: with the four. I guess I don't know high highest profile,
Speaker 1: highest profile games and wes, I want you to get
Speaker 1: things going. Uh, Indianapolis Colts who have a new player
Speaker 1: that we need to get to. Greg Uh and Mark
Speaker 1: Sessler Uh going into San Francisco to face the Forts. Well,
Speaker 1: we had quite a bit of feedback on Twitter that
Speaker 1: we should have had a special podcast for Trent Richardson.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about him now. I I called it a
Speaker 1: heist that uh Ryan Grigson pulled off. They get Trent
Speaker 1: Richardson after the Browns paid his thirteen point through three
Speaker 1: four million dollar signing bonus, so they're basically paying Richardson
Speaker 1: an average of two million dollars the next three years.
Speaker 1: They get the number three overall pick to pair with
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick from last year's draft, and
Speaker 1: Grigson said he he watched all of Richardson's film. Griggson,
Speaker 1: a former scout, said it passes the eye test. Thinks
Speaker 1: he's still a special talent, and I agree, Like I
Speaker 1: went last year when I was watching games, I would
Speaker 1: like Week five he plays the Giants and I saw
Speaker 1: a difference maker, like a special talent, and then the
Speaker 1: next week for Actress. His ribs says he had to
Speaker 1: sleep up upright at night. It was so painful. I
Speaker 1: think he became a different back, more tentative, probably wasn't explosive. Yes,
Speaker 1: And then Week one this year, I thought he looked
Speaker 1: great in the first quarter, the first quarter and a
Speaker 1: half against the Dolphins. Browns go away from the run,
Speaker 1: and they haven't had an open hole to run through
Speaker 1: since then. I think we're talking about a a guy back.
Speaker 1: His early first seventeen games are almost identical to late
Speaker 1: Ladinian Thomas and Emmett Smith and Ricky Williams. Now there
Speaker 1: are some bad backs that they're they're identical too, But
Speaker 1: he's also got the pedigree of the number three overall pick.
Speaker 1: Was called coming out of the draft the most complete
Speaker 1: player in the draft and the best running back since
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson. I think that goes a long way. Two points.
Speaker 1: I had number one. I loved Jim or Say so much.
Speaker 1: His his tweet before that, the tweets before the trade
Speaker 1: went down where epic, and he's last time he teased
Speaker 1: on Twitter something big was happened happening. Darius Heyward Bay
Speaker 1: signed with the cults and people really weren't buying in,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I think it was
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter DESPN drops the bomb that it's Richardson. So
Speaker 1: the first thing was while that was fun, and then
Speaker 1: the second thing was, oh my god, Mark, who just left.
Speaker 1: It's like when you reel in a movie when someone realizes,
Speaker 1: oh my god, a person is in great danger or
Speaker 1: are they okay? I called Mark and Mark didn't believe me.
Speaker 1: Our phone call got cut off, and then Greg and
Speaker 1: I had to get to work on posts. But then
Speaker 1: I was wondering. I said, how long until Mark talks
Speaker 1: himself into this trade? Turned out it was twenty two minutes.
Speaker 1: I counted on Twitter, well hold on, let me let's
Speaker 1: back the truck up because the floor. But I think
Speaker 1: what West pointed out, I don't disagree with anything he
Speaker 1: said about Trent Richardson, who I think is a foundation back.
Speaker 1: He's he's going to fit in really well for the cults,
Speaker 1: and I think that for the next month or so
Speaker 1: or even longer, this is going to be a really
Speaker 1: rough time for Cleveland's fan base and the front office
Speaker 1: because you're gonna see Trent Richardson just doing exactly what
Speaker 1: Indianapolis traded him as opposed to the last twenty years.
Speaker 1: You are a factory of fat, you know. I think
Speaker 1: I think this is a a ten pole moment in
Speaker 1: terms of being an ugly an ugly time for Browns
Speaker 1: fan because it's September and they mailed in the season.
Speaker 1: I don't you can't put it anyway. They've mailed in
Speaker 1: the season. But I do think that it's a trade
Speaker 1: that ultimately may work to some degree for both teams.
Speaker 1: It's not just in Cleveland's last front office would have
Speaker 1: done this trade for a third and fourth round pick.
Speaker 1: Cleveland got a first round pick when that value was
Speaker 1: offered to them. I can't kill them on that. If
Speaker 1: they vision wise turnaround and get the quarterback that they
Speaker 1: haven't had in twenty five years, if it leads to
Speaker 1: that through many channels, you can argue me up and down.
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily love the trade, but I think that
Speaker 1: this is an issue where people are looking at the
Speaker 1: Browns and taking a look at four or five different
Speaker 1: front offices that made a series of big blunders and
Speaker 1: in some cases bleeding it all into one magic issue,
Speaker 1: and it's like this front office is not last, the
Speaker 1: last front office. Why are you sticking up for this
Speaker 1: front office. I'm not sticking up for them. Like I
Speaker 1: wouldn't blame a fan for bleeding all those front offices
Speaker 1: into one. You've been told that just wouldn't be rational.
Speaker 1: That's that's the issue. It is rational because here's why
Speaker 1: you've been told as a fan base, we traded Julio
Speaker 1: Jones a difference maker, because we believe we can get
Speaker 1: Greg Little, who is just as good as him, with
Speaker 1: the fifty ninth overall pick. Two years later, they benched
Speaker 1: Greg Little on the same day they traded Trent Richardson
Speaker 1: and they said Brandon weed in the number twenty two
Speaker 1: overall pick, who they said, with a quarterback of the
Speaker 1: future here now also being told he could lose his
Speaker 1: job to a guy who nobody else in the NFL wanted,
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer. So the message has gone from Weedon is
Speaker 1: your future? Greg Little is every bit as good as
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. Because we have a new front office in here,
Speaker 1: we're supposed to believe they know what they're doing. I'd
Speaker 1: be tired of hearing year after year, regime after regime.
Speaker 1: Just have faith in us. When I'm not sure any
Speaker 1: of these guys know what they're doing. And here's here's
Speaker 1: Mike holmegrin by the way, when we talked about the
Speaker 1: prior regime, his quotes yesterday to a Seattle radio station
Speaker 1: about the trade. I struggled with it philosophically. If I'm
Speaker 1: the coach and someone came in anywhere and did that,
Speaker 1: I'd say, Okay, fire me, or I'm going to quit,
Speaker 1: or we're gonna both go into the owner and talk
Speaker 1: about this and then we'll see who's still standing. Now
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not getting behind Mike Holmgren, who was
Speaker 1: a abject disaster and the best defense of the trade
Speaker 1: you could possibly make. That Mike Holmgren disagrees with it
Speaker 1: because no one did a worse job in the front
Speaker 1: office over the last few years. And I feel bad
Speaker 1: for Browns fans. I don't think you can punish this
Speaker 1: group because of it. And it comes back to Trent Richardson.
Speaker 1: If Trent Richardson is a top five special back, it's
Speaker 1: a bad trade. Otherwise it's just a running back. And
Speaker 1: if he was coming out in the draft again, he
Speaker 1: wouldn't be taking number three because he's bigger, he's had
Speaker 1: some injury troubles, He's gained more weight, he's not quite
Speaker 1: as explosive. Maybe he will be great. I think different scouts,
Speaker 1: different people will will disagree, but I don't know that
Speaker 1: he's a difference make. I mean one quick thing, like
Speaker 1: we this front office is the one that's coming and
Speaker 1: said the past one went four draft picks in a
Speaker 1: trade to move up one spot to get Richardson. This
Speaker 1: front office is saying flat out, we never would have
Speaker 1: done that. We don't agree with that kind of wheeling
Speaker 1: and dealing. Secondly, we never would have used the twenty
Speaker 1: second pick in the draft to take Brandon Weedon, a
Speaker 1: quarterback that roundly is dismissed as a nonentity, so we
Speaker 1: can't killed. We never would have taken Josh Gordon in
Speaker 1: a supplemental draft. And fourthly, they wouldn't have taken the
Speaker 1: right tackle either. They have concerns about him too, So
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's just we can't argue one
Speaker 1: against the other. I think this front office, I feel
Speaker 1: like you're giving them the benefit of the doubt that
Speaker 1: they haven't earned how much. Well, I'm not completely flaming them,
Speaker 1: when actually the front the free agent moves they made
Speaker 1: in the past season. Are their most productive players right now?
Speaker 1: They're top pick Mingo looks good out of the gate.
Speaker 1: More time is needed. I'm not going to crucify them
Speaker 1: based on the fact that the franchise in general has
Speaker 1: been a mess long before they got there. Let's let's
Speaker 1: move on to this year's Colts team and Richardson. Is
Speaker 1: Trent Richardson worth how many wins compared to Vick Ballard
Speaker 1: as you're starting running back? Is he worth any wins?
Speaker 1: Is he worth one win? Thinking to do about nothing
Speaker 1: all this discussion if we think he won't be worth anything?
Speaker 1: But but is he? I don't know that. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you calculate wins for I mean, is he
Speaker 1: gonna be a much better player? I believe he will.
Speaker 1: Does he make their offense a lot better? I think
Speaker 1: he does, and that was already an offense with a
Speaker 1: lot of potential. I think this was a slam dunk
Speaker 1: for the Colts. Pat Hamilton's wants to run a power
Speaker 1: scheme in Richardson's the perfect back for that. He's a
Speaker 1: much more talented guy than Vick Ballard. We we should
Speaker 1: definitely get onto the games themselves. But I want to
Speaker 1: give Mark the last word on this because this is
Speaker 1: such a monumental moment in the franchise's recent history. I'd
Speaker 1: really think for the Colts it's a successful move. They
Speaker 1: got a classy player who I think is a one
Speaker 1: of the difference makers at running back. Potentially for Cleveland,
Speaker 1: it's more wait and see. It's a little too early
Speaker 1: to judge, but there's If they fail, it's gonna be
Speaker 1: a move that will not be forgotten for decades in Cleveland. Alright,
Speaker 1: West Colts forty Niners. Let's talk about the game well.
Speaker 1: Richardson expects to play and play a lot. Edward Or
Speaker 1: of ESPN reported, so I think still. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: a tough matchup, your first match, your first game, You're
Speaker 1: going against the you know, one of the best front
Speaker 1: sevens in the NFL. Forty Niners are coming off that
Speaker 1: big loss to Seattle. I feel like there'll be some
Speaker 1: revenge factor there. Um. I would say the forty Honors
Speaker 1: are the favorite in this game, pretty heavy favorite. It
Speaker 1: really stuck out to me how the Colts protected Andrew
Speaker 1: luck well against Miami last week when they're rushing for
Speaker 1: in the last quarter and a half Kevin Coyle and
Speaker 1: that defensive front for Miami unleashed an array of blitz is.
Speaker 1: In my in Indianapolis had no answer for it. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was Luck not recognizing it, the
Speaker 1: young offense line. There's a new guy in there, and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Vic Fangio have to be watching this, and
Speaker 1: they're gonna throw a lot at Luck and this line.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be tough for them to move
Speaker 1: the ball. I think the culture, just like I thought
Speaker 1: last week the Redskins had a bed draw going into
Speaker 1: green Bay. I think San Francisco coming off that embarrassing loss.
Speaker 1: I think the culture and going into a buzz saw
Speaker 1: here and I think, uh, you know, they're gonna get
Speaker 1: beat pretty handily. All right, let's move on green Bay.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Packers, they are going to Cincinnati. This
Speaker 1: is a good game. This might be my favorite game
Speaker 1: of the week. Mark Sessler is going to tell us
Speaker 1: about it. Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna actually take a
Speaker 1: moment here to uh calling a silence for the Browns.
Speaker 1: From off the Browns. We've moved on to the rest
Speaker 1: of the league. It is I find the Cincinnati Bengals
Speaker 1: a hard watch. They are for me, and I think
Speaker 1: it starts right at the quarterback position, one of the
Speaker 1: more boring football teams. On offense, I see hope obviously
Speaker 1: in the new players that they brought in. They desperately
Speaker 1: needed that and will see how that goes. But when
Speaker 1: people talk about this being a shootout, and I've heard
Speaker 1: that thrown around our news from a few times, that
Speaker 1: to me is ridiculous. This is a game now, you know,
Speaker 1: a podcast to go. I predicted a showering of points
Speaker 1: that did not go my way. I don't see a
Speaker 1: team that can keep up with the Packers. Green Bay
Speaker 1: on offense is playing on all cylinders right now. Jordy
Speaker 1: Nelson looks fantastic. Aaron Rodgers flawless, is getting the ball
Speaker 1: out so quick that I'm not sure since he's d line,
Speaker 1: which is their one big strength, will make the difference
Speaker 1: it would against another quarterback. I don't like this game
Speaker 1: for Cincinnati on any level. Greg, you put it the
Speaker 1: best I thought on Twitter on Monday night. Uh Andy
Speaker 1: Dalton looks like the same guy he looked like when
Speaker 1: he came into the league, Like, I mean, did he
Speaker 1: just come ready made for the NFL? And that's all
Speaker 1: he's ever gonna be. He's one of those low ceiling
Speaker 1: type of guys. I think, you know, it's a bad combination.
Speaker 1: He's not accurate, really, he's very streaky with his accuracy,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't have a big arm, So that's that's
Speaker 1: a tough one to punch to overcome. I think there
Speaker 1: are a fun team to watch in the sense that
Speaker 1: Jay Gruden can do a lot of different things, but
Speaker 1: I don't think he has the quarterback for it. I
Speaker 1: think when you don't have easy gas for your arm strength,
Speaker 1: your accuracy suffers down the field because you're pushing the ball,
Speaker 1: and I think that's his problem. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: we've heard a comparison to Matt Ryan, who I believe
Speaker 1: is much more accurate than than Andy Dalton, and Matt
Speaker 1: Ryan's arm has gotten stronger the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: I still look at the team and I understand that
Speaker 1: they're they're kind of slow baking these new parts into
Speaker 1: the offense. But it feels like when Dalton to a J.
Speaker 1: Green is not two or three times a home run
Speaker 1: proposition for the Bengals, that they run out of ideas.
Speaker 1: And I like Jay Gruden too, but more in theory
Speaker 1: than what I've seen in big moments, because it's not
Speaker 1: just the two playoff games where they completely completely went
Speaker 1: to sleep. It's just for stretches of the season. The
Speaker 1: Bengals don't seem to have something about their offense that
Speaker 1: guarantees that the talent is going to play up to
Speaker 1: its potential week to week. Eddie Lacy is out, is
Speaker 1: officially questionable for this game, but he didn't practice all week,
Speaker 1: so we'll see James Starks again. I thought Starks ran
Speaker 1: really well. That could be something where they wanted it
Speaker 1: to be a one to punch with Lacey and uh Harris,
Speaker 1: But now I think it's going to be. You know,
Speaker 1: Lacy and Starks could could split the work. And we
Speaker 1: won't get bogged down with giving you all our different
Speaker 1: picks for these games. But if you go to the
Speaker 1: Around the League blog, we have all our picks for
Speaker 1: the week, as we do every week. Let's move on,
Speaker 1: Greg the Atlanta Falcons. Another good game. I like this one.
Speaker 1: May you know it's a better week. I thought that's
Speaker 1: a good week Atlanta Falcons. They go to Miami the
Speaker 1: upstart Dolphins. Brent Grimes is revenge. I mean Grimes. That
Speaker 1: will put the fans in the seats. Yeah, Brent Grimes
Speaker 1: and Rashad Jones might be the most fun cornerback safety
Speaker 1: combo in the league that I've watched so far far
Speaker 1: this year because they're You're not the biggest guys in
Speaker 1: the world, but they are both just flying around. Grimes
Speaker 1: is so good at closing on plays and recognizing. Joe
Speaker 1: Ones is like a younger Paula Malloy. Maybe not that level,
Speaker 1: but it just that he can do so many things.
Speaker 1: Jared Oddricks playing really well, Randy Starks is playing really well.
Speaker 1: You have Cameron Wake. I think it's a really good defense,
Speaker 1: and you're catching the Falcons at the perfect time. He
Speaker 1: just lost Coy Bierman and John Weatherspoon. You know. Weatherspoon's
Speaker 1: probably their best defensive player. Uh, and I think Miami's
Speaker 1: catching him at the perfect time. Jopio bart two, that's
Speaker 1: the name of the guy replace Sean Weatherspoon, and he
Speaker 1: played really well last week. Um, so we'll see. I
Speaker 1: think I think you're right that they are facing the
Speaker 1: Falcons at the right time, and they match up well
Speaker 1: as far as their ferocious pass rush going against an
Speaker 1: offensive line that can't protect Matt Ryan. Um, I think
Speaker 1: the matchup I want to watch is Julio Jones. Apparently
Speaker 1: our our buddy Evans Silvett Rhodo Wild tells us Nolan
Speaker 1: Carroll will probably play that side of the field, not
Speaker 1: Brent Grimes, so that will be something for the Falcons
Speaker 1: to exploit. He did a good job Reggie Wayne last week.
Speaker 1: For Reggie Wayne is no no quarterback has been knocked
Speaker 1: down and Tannehill has been roughed up early nine sacks
Speaker 1: on him. Only Weedon has been sacked more times. This
Speaker 1: is a game where he's probably not going to see
Speaker 1: the pressure he saw in the first two and Lanta
Speaker 1: obviously struggling to rush the passer. That for me suggests
Speaker 1: that maybe Mike Wallace, who had a nice game last time,
Speaker 1: has a good chance here to make some do some
Speaker 1: damage on Atlanta. Big game for Ryan Tannele, This would
Speaker 1: be a huge win for Miami, well a big loss
Speaker 1: for Atlanta. And I really think, you know, Greg, you
Speaker 1: could barely contain yourself with your excitement for Tannehill on Monday.
Speaker 1: But let's let's face it here. If he has a
Speaker 1: big game and everything is set up for it to happen,
Speaker 1: and they beat a Falcons team and they moved to three.
Speaker 1: And oh, if you want to put Ryan's tnnele in
Speaker 1: that group of up and coming qbs, you you basically
Speaker 1: have a little ammunition to start that bandwagon. I can
Speaker 1: feel the buzz in the room. It's buzzing the Tannehill
Speaker 1: I've been talking about a year. It's happening. Um, Greg's
Speaker 1: up out of his seat again. That's always this isn't
Speaker 1: gonna work out well for you. Um, all right, let's
Speaker 1: move on. Chicago Bears. Oh Man, speaking of Greg, not
Speaker 1: to take the wind out of your sales, but Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: They are heading to Pittsburgh to face the Steelers, and
Speaker 1: Greg's MVP pick that Roethlisberger. This this is obviously we
Speaker 1: talked about it on Wednesday with touch touch on this game.
Speaker 1: But you can't you can't emphasize it enough that the Steelers,
Speaker 1: you know, they need this game. Oh and three, they're finished.
Speaker 1: I don't I just don't imagine that a Tomlin Big
Speaker 1: Ben team ever starts owing three. But I guess everyone
Speaker 1: has bad seasons, so I understand why a lot of
Speaker 1: people would pick the Bears. But you've got to think
Speaker 1: if the Steelers have anything in the tank here, they're
Speaker 1: gonna defend their home field on Sunday. I look at
Speaker 1: the I look at Chicago, and I see just a
Speaker 1: much more talented football team right now. You know, this
Speaker 1: is a game that I think Jake Cutler under Lovey
Speaker 1: Smith goes in and loses in past seasons. I am
Speaker 1: if he's on the Tannehill bandwagon. I'm on that more
Speaker 1: trustman bandwagon. And I see Chicago rolling in and taking
Speaker 1: care of business. I think that they, you know, with
Speaker 1: each week, Cutler looks a little bit more comfortable in
Speaker 1: that offense. Uh you know Brandon Marshall. Was he he
Speaker 1: injured during practice or something like that. I believe, yeah,
Speaker 1: he should. They expect him to play. They're they're healthy enough.
Speaker 1: But that defense too, I mean, that's an opportunity to
Speaker 1: defense in Pittsburgh. Really, what have they shown us that says, hey,
Speaker 1: we're about to move the ball score some points. This
Speaker 1: hurts me to say my most reviled NFL player over
Speaker 1: the past half decade is Jay Cutler. I don't like
Speaker 1: anything about him. What about his wife? I don't even
Speaker 1: know who she is. I know she's supposed to be
Speaker 1: some TV star. I don't watch any of I know
Speaker 1: she's supposed to, yeah whatever seeth in some modern day
Speaker 1: soap opera, and you know, I don't know who she is.
Speaker 1: Wesley knows this when you know when we first met
Speaker 1: years and years ago. Tannehill is my new kind of
Speaker 1: quarter culor was my original Tannehill. I've been driving that
Speaker 1: bandwagon and it is nice to see him playing well
Speaker 1: in a system that I it's like that Kristen Cavalery
Speaker 1: exists only in theory to us, the exact kind of
Speaker 1: girl that would end up with Jay Cutler, that's all.
Speaker 1: That's actually exactly accurate. So anyway, this this is painful,
Speaker 1: but I believe right now Jake Cutler is one of
Speaker 1: the ten best quarterbacks in the NFL. I love his footwork.
Speaker 1: Trustman has worked miracles with him. He actually has fundamentals
Speaker 1: and mechanics now, and he's throwing some of the prettiest
Speaker 1: passes I've seen all year. He's always thrown pretty passes,
Speaker 1: so now he's not throwing in those wacky, you know
Speaker 1: plays where he's trying to improvise and well, he had
Speaker 1: a fumble six last week and I didn't even think
Speaker 1: it was really his fault. Like these things happen, you know,
Speaker 1: But in the past I would have rolled my eyes
Speaker 1: and said, there goes Cutler. We're also seeing him being
Speaker 1: protected for the first time ever in Chicago, and he's
Speaker 1: getting the ball out of his hands. It's a big
Speaker 1: part of it. A lot of what Trustman is doing
Speaker 1: is working perfectly. Devin Hester, it was maybe the biggest
Speaker 1: factor in that game last week. If you kickoff returns,
Speaker 1: that was your game. I'm just say, and I mean that.
Speaker 1: He was probably the key to that game because the
Speaker 1: field position them taking him off offense. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he can keep that going, but it was a
Speaker 1: huge day. He was electric and then you know, it
Speaker 1: was like the answer to Cordarrel opening the game with
Speaker 1: a kickoff return touchdown. Okay, so let's let's move on
Speaker 1: to our defend your hero segment. K Rich. Finally, Glass,
Speaker 1: we do. I think we're gonna need some type of
Speaker 1: theme for this eventually. I don't defend your here. It's
Speaker 1: almost like maybe something medieval times esque, like a night
Speaker 1: coming in to defend his last Was that a term
Speaker 1: that was used? Yes, I know, what do you think
Speaker 1: I think it's coming and I think you guys will
Speaker 1: be very pleased. She's still mad. She's still mad. We
Speaker 1: haven't given her the drops, but he's mad. No one's commented.
Speaker 1: I feel like you've done your hair differently today. I
Speaker 1: like it. It's a little sleeker. Well, look at that
Speaker 1: a guy her hair and Merry Christmas. I saw your
Speaker 1: shirt too. Oh thank you. I'm more upset about my
Speaker 1: Eagles losing, but we can talk about Oh that makes sense.
Speaker 1: K Rich is a chameleon when it comes to the hairstyles.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's a different one almost every day
Speaker 1: of the week. Oh no, you're trying to be like
Speaker 1: I didn't know we were going to talk about it,
Speaker 1: but since it came up, you have kind of an
Speaker 1: Alicia Key look going today. I like it. Funny, my
Speaker 1: dad says the same man. All right, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of good information there. Alright, defend your hero. So we'll
Speaker 1: work on the music. We'll start with I think did
Speaker 1: we all have hero picks this week? No? I do
Speaker 1: not have one. Sorry, was yeah, but you can just
Speaker 1: hang out if you want a wasted mind. Mark Cecil
Speaker 1: also don't have one for the season. I think you're
Speaker 1: the only one. How about I let West defend why
Speaker 1: I picked the Cults as my hero pick. Why why
Speaker 1: don't you defend that? Because I don't remember why I
Speaker 1: picked them, but I do. I do. Uh. I like
Speaker 1: the addition of Trent richardson What's happened after I talked
Speaker 1: about that we did okay? I I think that Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck needs to have one of those games where it's like, whoa,
Speaker 1: he just did what That's what's going to happen on Sunday? Alright,
Speaker 1: what about your other hero pick? Mark? You have the uh,
Speaker 1: you have the Rams taken down the Cowboys? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that. To me, I have the Cowboys winning the
Speaker 1: NFC East, but I also think they're gonna win it
Speaker 1: at about eight and eight, and this is a classic
Speaker 1: Cowboys loss where they're at home. Let's take care of
Speaker 1: business against a team that frankly should not be any
Speaker 1: better than we are. But I think actually is I uh,
Speaker 1: it just went with my gut. St Louis is going
Speaker 1: to go two and one to start the season. I
Speaker 1: feel like that would be a really big win. I
Speaker 1: know the Cowboys lose games at home all the time,
Speaker 1: but that seems like it would be a nice win
Speaker 1: for the Rams to go on the road and take
Speaker 1: care of business against a team that's probably better than
Speaker 1: them or close to better than them, that would be
Speaker 1: a big win. I don't see it happening, but twee three,
Speaker 1: I don't know. It would be the first win for
Speaker 1: any team in the NFC East out of the division
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys could win this game. I mean, the
Speaker 1: NFC East is oh and five and uh if the
Speaker 1: East more like NFC least the Rams. It's been pretty
Speaker 1: easy to move the ball on them. If you haven't noticed, Um,
Speaker 1: the Falcons without Rowdy White basically and without Stephen Jackson
Speaker 1: just kind of blew them out. You know, I don't
Speaker 1: and the Cardinals did too, I mean in terms of
Speaker 1: moving the ball. A lot of heat for that defense
Speaker 1: over the off season, and I I don't know, after
Speaker 1: watching the Cowboys last week now after seeing the Chief's
Speaker 1: offense again, maybe I overrated how good the Cowboy defensive line.
Speaker 1: But I killed Monty Kiffin uh in hiring him a
Speaker 1: lot this offseason, and I think their defense looks pretty good,
Speaker 1: especially up front. One thing, at Wes, you are right,
Speaker 1: like the cornerbacks for the Rams missed a ton of
Speaker 1: tackles last week. That's gonna have to change because Dez Bryant,
Speaker 1: I think, maybe the best receiver in football right now. Greg,
Speaker 1: you you sat out the hero picks last week. It
Speaker 1: worked out. You went thirteen and three. Can't can't complain there,
Speaker 1: You're back in this week. You have the Chargers, who
Speaker 1: I will never take, but you have the Charge just
Speaker 1: taking down the Titans. Well, I don't have many rules,
Speaker 1: but when you can get a hero pick potential going
Speaker 1: up against Jake Locker and Mike mun Chack, you gotta
Speaker 1: take it. I mean, the San Diego Chargers have played
Speaker 1: really well two straight weeks. I mean not great, but
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers is looking like a qual any quarterback. Again.
Speaker 1: I'm always looking for the better quarterback in the game.
Speaker 1: Who what passing game I think is better? And I
Speaker 1: think the Chargers defense hasn't been great, but they've been okay.
Speaker 1: They've played seven quarters of football. They were very close
Speaker 1: to being too, and oh with two pretty solid winds Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Locker to me is a problem for them right now.
Speaker 1: And you don't have a great running game. There's not
Speaker 1: a lot to like about that offense. I feel like
Speaker 1: this was a coin flip game. And we all flipped
Speaker 1: tails and you just happened to get hit. I agree.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of games like that this week.
Speaker 1: Somehow we all picked, we all picked the egos, we
Speaker 1: all picked the Jets, which is insane. All right, we'll
Speaker 1: move on to my hero pick, which I was actually
Speaker 1: pretty happy about this one. I got the Ravens at
Speaker 1: home against the Texans. I think they're gonna take care
Speaker 1: of business at home on Ed Reid's homecoming, in which
Speaker 1: you'll probably wearing a track suit. Um. I just feel
Speaker 1: good about this one. I don't think the tech the
Speaker 1: Texans are too and oh but I don't think they're
Speaker 1: necessarily playing that well. And you know, the Ravens have
Speaker 1: a lot of question marks themselves. But you know, I
Speaker 1: just see this as a game where they'll they'll hold
Speaker 1: serve no Ray Rice and this game most likely they
Speaker 1: calling him a game time decision. He didn't practice all week.
Speaker 1: They'll give him a shot, but generally you don't play
Speaker 1: if you don't practice. I trust in Bernard and Bernard Pierce.
Speaker 1: We trust. As my running back rankings shows this offseason,
Speaker 1: I think Baltimore has done a nice job getting Marlon
Speaker 1: Brown into the program. The last couple of weeks, he's
Speaker 1: got two touchdowns in two games. But listen, I mean
Speaker 1: it's like with every new week they seem to leave
Speaker 1: and lose a new key individual. And I watched that
Speaker 1: Ravens Brown's game. It was an ugly game and really, honestly,
Speaker 1: Baltimore struggled to kind of figure out what it is
Speaker 1: they are on offense. I still don't think they know.
Speaker 1: I think it's the parts prevent them from knowing. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Houston actually is much improved on offense after
Speaker 1: the emergence of DeAndre Hopkins. I think they can score
Speaker 1: some points. I don't like Baltimore in this football game.
Speaker 1: It's another coin flip game. Though. I like, if I
Speaker 1: were you, i'd be I'd be enjoying that hero pick potential.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. Um All right, now, let's
Speaker 1: go through the offense. These are the games that we
Speaker 1: did not profile as as the top games of the week.
Speaker 1: They weren't involved with any Hero picks. You know, they're
Speaker 1: just games, But it doesn't mean they're not fun to
Speaker 1: watch or something that doesn't deserve any time. So we're
Speaker 1: gonna give it right now, each of us will give
Speaker 1: a couple of thoughts on the game, and Uh, then
Speaker 1: we'll keep moving the New York Giants. They're going to Carolina, Greg,
Speaker 1: I want you to tell us a little bit about that.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not too much into the historical numbers,
Speaker 1: but there hasn't been an own three team to make
Speaker 1: the playoffs, since these are two teams with really high aspirations.
Speaker 1: I picked the Giants because the Panthers secondary going into
Speaker 1: the season was I thought maybe the worst in the NFL,
Speaker 1: certainly among them, and since then, they've lost a couple
Speaker 1: of players, everyone's injured, and I just Trusteeli Manning and
Speaker 1: that passing game so much more than Cam Newton. I
Speaker 1: can just see them scoring thirty points and I don't
Speaker 1: know if the Panthers are equipped to keep up with
Speaker 1: them right now. I think Ron River is the first
Speaker 1: guy getting fired this year. Yeah, I think the loser
Speaker 1: of this game goes into tailspin mode for the rest
Speaker 1: this season. Okay, let's move on to Cleveland at Minnesota. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's another game where we haven't owned two team that
Speaker 1: basically needs to stay alive. Minnesota not looking too how either,
Speaker 1: Mark Cessler, do you want to tell us about this?
Speaker 1: I don't like the match up here on any level
Speaker 1: of what it remains of Cleveland's offense against what I
Speaker 1: think is a pretty good Vikings defense at home. That
Speaker 1: that matchup doesn't work for me. And then you've got
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson, who with a hundred and ninety three yards
Speaker 1: and two games, has gone into a mode this week
Speaker 1: where he said he was soul searching, he's angry, he
Speaker 1: went out into the desert. Yeah, you know, and this
Speaker 1: is a classic Cleveland Brown's football game where Adrian Peterson's
Speaker 1: gonna get real healthy. Uh. They've got a very good
Speaker 1: run defense Cleveland. I don't want to overlook that. But
Speaker 1: Adrian Peterson at home in a must win game for
Speaker 1: a team that went to the playoffs last year and
Speaker 1: feels disrespected, it doesn't add up. I have one real
Speaker 1: quick thing to say, we have killed Christian Ponder since
Speaker 1: the beginning the preseason. I thought he played well last week, uh,
Speaker 1: and better than his number showed, So I'll just want
Speaker 1: to give him a little bit of credit. And he
Speaker 1: was better, but still made a key mistake to lose
Speaker 1: the game, and he's not getting a lot of help.
Speaker 1: Greg Jennings does not look like a good signing. He
Speaker 1: had a ball in the open field at one point
Speaker 1: last year and I don't know if he's injured or something,
Speaker 1: but he looked like he was in slow month. Lessie
Speaker 1: Fraser said, we will be getting cour Darrel Patterson more
Speaker 1: playing time. It was a mistake and he kind of
Speaker 1: blamed it on the other coaches and said this is
Speaker 1: something we will be doing. And one last thing about
Speaker 1: that game, Trent Richardson was traded to the Colts UH
Speaker 1: this past week, so he's not on the Browns roster alright.
Speaker 1: Moving on, Tampa Bay goes to New England. Oh man,
Speaker 1: you know what the Patriots. This is why I hate
Speaker 1: the Patriots. There's so many reasons why I don't like
Speaker 1: the Patriots, but everything always goes the Patriots way. They're
Speaker 1: playing terrible. They got two rookie quarterbacks against bad teams.
Speaker 1: Now they have Tampa Bay, a team just in fire
Speaker 1: on fire from within. They're gonna come in. It's going
Speaker 1: to be an absolute disaster. And the path. Speaking of
Speaker 1: getting healthy, I think the Pat's offense will make some
Speaker 1: plays that will be excited that Gront comes back. Everything
Speaker 1: is so great for the Patriots. Well, hold on, I
Speaker 1: mean Tampa's defense has been very solid. I think Patriots
Speaker 1: have played arguably three straight pretty good defenses. If we're
Speaker 1: thinking the Bill's defense looks pretty good, I'm Bill's defense
Speaker 1: looks much better. Tampas no than they're than they're own
Speaker 1: from last year. Who picked the Buccaneers because I was
Speaker 1: surprised multiple people. Patrick, I picked Tampa Bay And really,
Speaker 1: why don't you trust the paths here? Again, I'm gonna listen,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to overbake this. It was a feeling.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I just think that I think that New
Speaker 1: England has struggled, struggled in general to you know, kind
Speaker 1: of that young group has not fully there. I really
Speaker 1: like what I saw from Tampa's defense. I did go
Speaker 1: back and rewatch that game, and their young linebackers sensational.
Speaker 1: They got Darell Reevas against the Patriots. A Teamy hates
Speaker 1: I like it. It's so weird to see in Football
Speaker 1: Outsiders rankings this week the Patriots had the best offense
Speaker 1: and the fourth best defense. It's way too early for
Speaker 1: these to matter, but it's just crazy and Revis he
Speaker 1: hates the Patriots, but he also hates the Bucks. So
Speaker 1: defense is all right. West you want to tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit about Cardinals going to the Superdome to
Speaker 1: play the same Well, you have the Cardinals coming in
Speaker 1: to face this defense that I've been telling you guys,
Speaker 1: it's just ferocious the sense. Oh wait, wait what? No?
Speaker 1: I I think the Saints have a pretty good matchup here.
Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald last week was basically playing on one leg.
Speaker 1: He was dragging his other leg behind him before he
Speaker 1: sat out most of the second half. And hamstrings just
Speaker 1: don't get better in a week when you're dragging the leg.
Speaker 1: So Arizona is gonna be without its best offensive player.
Speaker 1: And I believe Mendenhall is going to play, but hasn't
Speaker 1: practiced this week, so that's an issue there too. I
Speaker 1: just the Saints just have too much firepower. And Saint's
Speaker 1: got some other good news this week. It looks like
Speaker 1: mark Ingram is not going to play. Wow, I mean
Speaker 1: they don't shovel dirt on that man. That might have
Speaker 1: been a mistake on draft day, Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: might have been a mistake to keep force fedium over
Speaker 1: Pierre Thomas and Darren Sprowls. I think that's gonna help
Speaker 1: you don't draft running backs in the first round, unless
Speaker 1: especially from Greg Detroit lines. They're going to Washington, another
Speaker 1: team in desperate need of win. The Redskins are owing too.
Speaker 1: I was surprised not more people picked Detroit. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not a I'm not into uh gambling, but we
Speaker 1: do make picks here, and if there's one pick I
Speaker 1: feel really good about this week, it is the Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions going on the road because I think that defensive
Speaker 1: line is great. We know about that, and I think
Speaker 1: the offense is better. Reggie Bush returned to practice on Friday.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. We're talking about guys getting the ball out
Speaker 1: of his hands quickly. He's been doing that. I think
Speaker 1: their offense looks a little better this year, and just
Speaker 1: Washington's defense just terrible and r G three is not
Speaker 1: quite ready. I just I like how this sets up
Speaker 1: once again. The lines are the better team, just as
Speaker 1: they were last week. Lot that's true, but Mike Shanahan
Speaker 1: wasn't coaching the Cardinals. I don't know alright, this next game.
Speaker 1: I don't think we need to spend too much time
Speaker 1: on it. But Mark, if you want to tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit about the Jaguars going to Seattle, showdown.
Speaker 1: This reminds me of a game from two thousand ten
Speaker 1: when uh Eric Manginie brought a Cleveland team. Well, they
Speaker 1: hosted a New England Patriots team that had Peyton Hillis
Speaker 1: and Colt McCoy. And there's no reason and nothing about
Speaker 1: Cleveland that suggested they should win that game, and they
Speaker 1: body rocked New England and it was and they went
Speaker 1: right back to their losing ways after New England didn't
Speaker 1: win a game all the rest of the season. And
Speaker 1: it was the fact that that entire coaching staff knew
Speaker 1: the Patriots so well offensive defensive assistance that might have
Speaker 1: played into it. Gus Bradley knows this Seattle defense. Despite
Speaker 1: everything I just said, this is not going to go
Speaker 1: well for jackson No, no, no, Brandley knows his own offense.
Speaker 1: You do not have anything resembling a quarterback on that
Speaker 1: Jacksonville team. That's another team that they're gonna They're gonna
Speaker 1: buy for that number one pick. They're not going to
Speaker 1: trade out of that position. If they stand there at
Speaker 1: the saying that Jacksonville will get body rocked. No, yes,
Speaker 1: I will say that that's I'm saying. This is not
Speaker 1: this is what in best case scenario, it's that two
Speaker 1: thousand ten game that won't happen extreme body rocking. Alright, Um,
Speaker 1: this game, actually, Mark, you were more excited about this
Speaker 1: game downstairs than anybody else. Buffalo going to the Metal
Speaker 1: ends to face the Jets. Um, you know, I think
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a close game. I think I
Speaker 1: think we're talking maybe six thirteam one of those. Yeah. Well, um,
Speaker 1: I'm very care as a Jets fan, I'm very curious
Speaker 1: to see, Um, how Geno Smith bounces back from a
Speaker 1: terrible fourth quarter in New England last week right through
Speaker 1: three picks and basically looked like the Geno Smith of
Speaker 1: Week three of the preseason. See how he bounces back
Speaker 1: from that. On the other side, you have the other
Speaker 1: rookie E J. Manuel, who is on top of the world.
Speaker 1: Old right now, I see a close game, I mean
Speaker 1: at home, I don't think. I don't know if the
Speaker 1: Bills are ready to win games on the road. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the Jets. But we all picked the Jets.
Speaker 1: That's weird. That strikes me as strange. Two defenses that
Speaker 1: are much better than people think in two quarterbacks that
Speaker 1: are getting way too much credit for how they've played.
Speaker 1: E J. Manuel has been composed. There's nothing else about
Speaker 1: him that that I've been impressed with. I just think
Speaker 1: he's getting way too much credit. I've been impressed with
Speaker 1: his coaching staff both sides. What an upgrade it's been
Speaker 1: for the Bills because they're very creative putting Manual into
Speaker 1: good positions, and on defense they're much better too. I
Speaker 1: agree it's going to be a defensive game. Quentin Coples
Speaker 1: is back for the Jets. I think could could help them.
Speaker 1: It's probably gonna be like a defensive touchdown return, touchdown
Speaker 1: snack game, you know, real quick on the Jets, because
Speaker 1: I agree that Buffalo has done a really nice job
Speaker 1: giving Manual on offense that he can run. It's simplified
Speaker 1: from what we'll probably see as he grows down the
Speaker 1: stretch of the season. But Marty morning Weag has done
Speaker 1: the opposite. I think with Gino Smith right out of
Speaker 1: the gate, he got some real complex play calls and
Speaker 1: some reads that I just think Gino Smith they need
Speaker 1: to pare this thing down and let him kind of
Speaker 1: adjust to his role, and they haven't done that. I
Speaker 1: don't think they've done a good job. There have been
Speaker 1: some low percentage passes that they've asked him to throw,
Speaker 1: which he's not ready to do, and it certainly doesn't
Speaker 1: have the personnel either. West, Why don't you close it out?
Speaker 1: The schedule for week three? Another kind of rough game,
Speaker 1: Oakland going to Denver. This is the Emperor has no
Speaker 1: close game for the Raiders. You've been getting away with
Speaker 1: playing played the Jacksonville Jaguarson, got way too much credit
Speaker 1: for it. Now you're going in to play the Broncos
Speaker 1: and it's going to be ugly. But does the Emperor
Speaker 1: have softball pants? Pants? Will eat his softball pants? You know,
Speaker 1: all bets are off. Is somehow the Raiders get come
Speaker 1: out of this game with a wound. You're nervous if
Speaker 1: that happened. If the Raiders come out of this game
Speaker 1: with when softball pants good directly into the marinade, as
Speaker 1: they should. Let's face it, all right. So that that
Speaker 1: ends our podcast for today and for the week. We'll
Speaker 1: be back on Sunday night. Uh. You know, we talked
Speaker 1: about the energy and I thought the energy was really
Speaker 1: good on Wednesday, a little lacking the previous Sunday show.
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking that we you know, maybe we just
Speaker 1: amp it up. Do a couple of five hour energy shots,
Speaker 1: get pumped up and come in on fire Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Whatever they shot in the Shawn McCoy's ankle last night,
Speaker 1: I'll be on that Sunday. We'll be literally bouncing off
Speaker 1: the walls. Um okay. So until then, the Mailman, the Sizzler,
Speaker 1: the Boss, and k Ridge behind the glass and also Lyle,
Speaker 1: we'll see. Even when people say they don't like something, yeah,
Speaker 1: well he must. Even when people say they don't like something,
Speaker 1: I'm saying when they say they don't like it, for
Speaker 1: making you don't like it, but or is saying that
Speaker 1: they don't like attention for something they said, I don't
Speaker 1: believe it. You are a factory upstatist.