Speaker 1: The Around the League Podcast runs the cover for defense.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the League Podcast.
Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansas, and I'm joined by a
Speaker 1: room full of heroes, Chris Westling, Mark Sessler, and Greg Rosenthal.
Speaker 1: Happy Sunday fellas covered from the beating you took yesterday,
Speaker 1: the beating I took on the on the cornhole field
Speaker 1: is that they called the field the pitch. Maybe I'm
Speaker 1: just glad you guys all made it into work today,
Speaker 1: even if called the Josh Freeman. Yeah, we took our
Speaker 1: a t L team photo and West is nowhere to
Speaker 1: be seen to get up in Cessler's dungeon. Wow, that
Speaker 1: we should just leave it open, like, let's move to
Speaker 1: the games, all right? So cryptic alright, So this is
Speaker 1: our second Sunday Night podcast. Is very exciting. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go through all the Sunday games. Uh. We On Friday
Speaker 1: we talked about how exciting, uh this week was going
Speaker 1: to be, and it has been fighting but a little
Speaker 1: bit of a bummer that a lot of injuries this week.
Speaker 1: That seems to be the big plot line right now,
Speaker 1: right Greg? Uh, Yeah, Tomathing Just the names that were injured, Ray, Rice,
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson, help me out, Stephen Stephen Jackson, Brandon Weedon,
Speaker 1: you gotta throw in there, you gotta throw it when
Speaker 1: we talk big names. Uh, Andre Andre Johnson is another one. Uh,
Speaker 1: and just on and on it went. And so hopefully
Speaker 1: a lot of these don't seem like they're too too serious,
Speaker 1: you know. Um, but we'll have to find out during
Speaker 1: the week. Yeah. So that, Yeah, that will be a
Speaker 1: big point of this week is seeing some of these
Speaker 1: key guys how long they'll be out, if they're out
Speaker 1: at all. But I guess we'll do what we did
Speaker 1: last week. We'll go through Every week, we get assigned
Speaker 1: to two or three games each which we follow closely. Um,
Speaker 1: so we'll go around the room here and we'll talk
Speaker 1: about the games that we watched, and we'll cover every
Speaker 1: game today, and uh, why don't we start start in
Speaker 1: Atlanta where the Falcons beat the Rams. Th Chris Westling
Speaker 1: was watching that and once he got here from Cessler's Dungeon,
Speaker 1: so the game wasn't nearly as close as the box
Speaker 1: score might show. Falcons jumped out to a big lead
Speaker 1: and basically runaway, ran away and hid for a while.
Speaker 1: Julio Jones was the story of the game. He was unstoppable.
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan threw for the second most yards of his
Speaker 1: career and only got sacked twice, but he still took
Speaker 1: He still took a beating from the Rams defensive front,
Speaker 1: so I think the offensive lines an issue there, and
Speaker 1: the Falcons had trouble running the ball. That was their
Speaker 1: fewest yards in a win, a win in franchise history.
Speaker 1: Stephen Jackson left after only three carries. The team did
Speaker 1: not update his injury after the game. Croy Bierman also
Speaker 1: got hurt. Are you concerned about this running game? You know?
Speaker 1: Moving forward? I am uh. I didn't think that Steven
Speaker 1: Jackson looked all that great in Week one. He had
Speaker 1: that one fifty yard run where it was a huge
Speaker 1: gaping hole to kind of hold that Michael Turner used
Speaker 1: to run through. But um, outside of that one fifty
Speaker 1: yard run, Falcon running backs of average one point eight
Speaker 1: six yards to carry this year. Let me ask you
Speaker 1: a quick question, because I looked quickly at the box
Speaker 1: score saw the Tabon Austin had two touchdowns. But I
Speaker 1: haven't really seen a lot of him this season. What
Speaker 1: are your takeaways? He wasn't involved until the game got
Speaker 1: out of hand in the in the Rams started playing
Speaker 1: catch up and passing all over the place. I think
Speaker 1: they're probably he probably doesn't know the offense quite well
Speaker 1: enough yet to the point that they can unleash him.
Speaker 1: It might take a few more weeks before that they
Speaker 1: were ready to do that. Passes for Bradford trying to
Speaker 1: come back. That was one of those games that just
Speaker 1: kind of over before it started. Yeah, and they both
Speaker 1: those teams are now one and one, so they're both
Speaker 1: in okay shape heading into week three. Okay, let's move on.
Speaker 1: Let's move to Baltimore. The Ravens beat up, well, they
Speaker 1: didn't beat up on the Browns, but they beat them
Speaker 1: fourteen six. Mark Sessler, Poor Mark Sessler, who predicted four
Speaker 1: and twelve, then hedged his bet, came back read an
Speaker 1: official statement saying eight and eight. Let's start to look
Speaker 1: a little bit like we could have a four and twelve.
Speaker 1: Is that fair to say? Well, it's I think it's
Speaker 1: a little early to go that dire. You were pretty
Speaker 1: dire in the dark in the last week or two.
Speaker 1: I've seen the Jets and Greg's team in the in
Speaker 1: the Dolphins have all these you know, glorious victories today.
Speaker 1: It happened for one of our friends that's a Bills fan.
Speaker 1: Cleveland has been left out in the dark. But I
Speaker 1: do look at this game objectively and I see something
Speaker 1: hopeful for Cleveland, which is a defense that at halftime
Speaker 1: was up. They were up six nothing. They completely shut
Speaker 1: down Baltimore, but they don't seem to have the confidence
Speaker 1: as a team to hold onto that kind of situation.
Speaker 1: Their defense is has a lot of talent. They seem
Speaker 1: completely differently coached than the offense that wandering no game plan.
Speaker 1: The Browns continually seemed to drive once or twice and
Speaker 1: then they lose whatever foothold they had. They wander from
Speaker 1: it entirely. There's no game plan on offense. Here's my question,
Speaker 1: because I know Josh Gordon up being there's a big deal.
Speaker 1: But what happened to all the talk before the season
Speaker 1: began about North, Turner and Shud and how they were
Speaker 1: going to bring a real offense. It's from what we're
Speaker 1: seeing in the box score, at least, this team is
Speaker 1: not doing anything offense. I think it really you know,
Speaker 1: it's funny. There was that day a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago when I wrote a post about UH two guards
Speaker 1: for Cleveland being injured and what was a deep offensive
Speaker 1: line suddenly as thin. They've given up eleven sacks in
Speaker 1: two games. They give up five today. They gave up
Speaker 1: six last week. Last week was not an anomaly. They
Speaker 1: have real issues and they can't sustain a passing game.
Speaker 1: Weeden was running for his life. He left with a
Speaker 1: thumb injury at the end of the game, and until
Speaker 1: they fixed that, I'm not sure what the answer is,
Speaker 1: and he might not start next week. I doubt he would. Frankly,
Speaker 1: what's up is this all weed in with the five
Speaker 1: sacks and what's up with Trent Richardson? Are we the
Speaker 1: expectation is going to be lowered for him at some
Speaker 1: point where we think it's just a team around him.
Speaker 1: You know, It's funny. There was a point a little
Speaker 1: bit after halftime where every single time that Weeden lined
Speaker 1: up under center, it was a run. I think their
Speaker 1: offense is blatantly predictable right now that it's it's easy
Speaker 1: for teams to see Richardson's getting the ball here, and
Speaker 1: he bottled up behind the line of scrimmage half the time.
Speaker 1: And what about what bet on the Ravens side, What
Speaker 1: did you see from that. You know, I think that
Speaker 1: the Ravens liked by the way, you told me that
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco's wife had a baby shortly before the game,
Speaker 1: and it was your assertion that if Flacco played well,
Speaker 1: it would mean that he was not a good family man.
Speaker 1: I like that. Well, yeah, that's that's tilted my message
Speaker 1: to some degree. I thought that either was gonna play
Speaker 1: with him in a negative or a positive way. You know,
Speaker 1: he's ice, he's guys, cold waters running through the flac
Speaker 1: of veins. He just went out and he produced. But
Speaker 1: the Ravens, I think, you know what we saw against
Speaker 1: the Broncos, there was some carry over where they still
Speaker 1: don't quite have an answer in the passing game across
Speaker 1: from Tory Smith, but Marlon Brown, who we've talked about
Speaker 1: a bunch. West had brought his name up a lot
Speaker 1: over the summer. You know, I saw something from me
Speaker 1: as two touchdowns in two games. He gives them a
Speaker 1: better option than anyone else. I think. On the other side,
Speaker 1: you know, and Tory Smith cannot do it alone. That's
Speaker 1: the Whites. My one takeaway from watching two Ravens games,
Speaker 1: Darryl Smith has to be the best late off season
Speaker 1: addition I can think of. I mean he's been fantastic. Yeah,
Speaker 1: their defense was very solid. How good was Jordan Cameron Cameron?
Speaker 1: I mean that is another bright spot, you know, with
Speaker 1: Gordon coming back. They actually I think Cameron is the
Speaker 1: is the most productive target on this team. He's got
Speaker 1: something four teen catches, two hundred and three yards and
Speaker 1: a touchdown in two games. Offseason hyped actually in our
Speaker 1: you know, we had a making the leap candidate with Cameron.
Speaker 1: He's paid off. Cessler and Dan are trying to say
Speaker 1: this season is over. Dan predicted the Browns would win
Speaker 1: nine games. Browns fans come tweet at Mark and Dan
Speaker 1: and say, it's only o and two. There's I mean games.
Speaker 1: I brought a few positive points up, it's it's there's
Speaker 1: issues here. Yeah, the Browns. For my prediction to be accurate, uh,
Speaker 1: they would have to go nine and five from this
Speaker 1: point onwards and beyond that, forget about that one, the
Speaker 1: Brandon Weed in four thousand yards there to touchdown prediction.
Speaker 1: That one's looking really grim. Mark, you also did the
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills thrilling over the Carolina Panthers in Orchard Park.
Speaker 1: My hero pick hero right here, you tell me about
Speaker 1: that game. Congrat stand number one. You've bounced back this
Speaker 1: week on the picks you have UH. For me, this
Speaker 1: was actually very weird, ugly game up until EJ. Manuel
Speaker 1: went on a torrid nine play eighty yard march with
Speaker 1: the inside the two minute warning with no time outs left.
Speaker 1: You know, I look at the bills and it's it
Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit of what the Seahawks did
Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson very early last season, where he was
Speaker 1: real hemmed in. They didn't dump the whole playbook manual. Also,
Speaker 1: I think has been given a simplified offense to work with. Uh.
Speaker 1: I think they're ready to open that up a little bit.
Speaker 1: I saw him actually not play very well in the
Speaker 1: first half of this game. His throws were off. Him
Speaker 1: and Cam Newton both really struggled early. But in a
Speaker 1: big moment, it's hard not to be happy for Bufalos
Speaker 1: fan base because that stadium utterly melted when Manuel. They
Speaker 1: haven't seen a good quarterback in two decades, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of hope and they have someone.
Speaker 1: I think that they believe they can build the offense around.
Speaker 1: That's a positive. Good defense by the Panthers give me
Speaker 1: a Cam Newton update at least, I mean this, well,
Speaker 1: this is tough. I think their offensive performance. I know
Speaker 1: they picked it up later in the game what I
Speaker 1: saw because last last week obviously that offensive performance was
Speaker 1: a dire mess. And I think that Newton through only
Speaker 1: three passes more than ten yards, they definitely went down
Speaker 1: field more. And for me, it seems at one point
Speaker 1: that when Mike Schula just let Newton play and they
Speaker 1: got into like a two minute drill at the end
Speaker 1: of the first half, Newton just went to instincts and
Speaker 1: he threw the ball and he did a nice job
Speaker 1: just pegging targets downfield. That's when it looked like the
Speaker 1: Panthers offensive the last few years. But then they reverted
Speaker 1: back to this what is an overly conservative attack. And uh,
Speaker 1: I've really I've real concerns for pant There's fans on
Speaker 1: the offensive side the but I'm I'm really bad at
Speaker 1: picking games. I'll say that up top. But the reason
Speaker 1: why I took the Bills is because I thought it
Speaker 1: would be close, and I know that Carolina cannot close games,
Speaker 1: and it's been something that's been going on since Newton
Speaker 1: has been there. And I guess that's what happened again. Right,
Speaker 1: six games and since the start of last season, they've
Speaker 1: led in the fourth quarter and event and ended up losing. Well,
Speaker 1: expect the Ron Rivera talked to really pick up this week.
Speaker 1: And you know, I'm usually not in favor of saying
Speaker 1: close losses are anything more than you know, sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just bad luck. But Ron Rivera has shown over and
Speaker 1: over close and game situations that his team is not
Speaker 1: well coached, they're not prepared, and they lose these heartbreakers
Speaker 1: again and again. It's they play more close games because
Speaker 1: they get conservative when they have a lead. Moving on,
Speaker 1: I I covered the game Chicago Bears thirty win over
Speaker 1: the Vikings. This is a tough loss for the Vikings.
Speaker 1: Um Martel's Bennett had a sixteen yard reception with ten
Speaker 1: seconds to play, basically salvaging a game in which the
Speaker 1: Bears did not play very well and wet, sloppy conditions
Speaker 1: that soldier field UH Minnesota forced four turnovers and lost
Speaker 1: UH in a game they really needed because you know,
Speaker 1: now they're owning to and UH. You know, it's not
Speaker 1: a good situation for them. But credit to the Bears
Speaker 1: for a second week in a row, basically stole a
Speaker 1: win and they're in a good position right now. Suddenly
Speaker 1: Jay Cutler's clutch. You know, that's the funny thing about clutch.
Speaker 1: It's like people want to say this guy's look. You know,
Speaker 1: suddenly they're making all the big plays at the end.
Speaker 1: They got some mojo there. Yeah. He Um. He didn't
Speaker 1: play great. He had three turnovers himself, including a lost
Speaker 1: fumble on one of those classic Jay Cutler doesn't protect
Speaker 1: the ball well where he got stripped and got picked
Speaker 1: up and run in. But to his credit, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: he led them down the field at the end in
Speaker 1: his past to Bennett, who, by the way, Bennett, I
Speaker 1: think the only thing stopping him from a Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: season and a thousand yards and something close to it
Speaker 1: as an injury. I think he's a great fit in
Speaker 1: that offense. And it's clear Cutler trusts him because a
Speaker 1: year ago he would have just been forcing the ball
Speaker 1: to brand Marshall over and over again in that spot.
Speaker 1: This time he looked elsewhere, and uh, you know they
Speaker 1: got to win for it. Well, they get Cordarold Patterson
Speaker 1: starting out that game with the kickoff return touchdown. Last week,
Speaker 1: they got an Adrian Peterson return touchdown. Their defense, you know,
Speaker 1: turned the ball over and yet they still can't get
Speaker 1: a win. It's it's a rough and Peterson, I know.
Speaker 1: I think he opened the season with the seventies six
Speaker 1: yard run or something about there for a touchdown. He went,
Speaker 1: he ran for a hundred yards exactly twenty for a hundred,
Speaker 1: but was not It didn't make any huge impact plays.
Speaker 1: So he's been bottled up pretty well. I think he's
Speaker 1: close to two hundred yards after two games. But if
Speaker 1: he really thinks he's gonna run for yards, he's gonna
Speaker 1: have to have more dynamic plays than he's had. For
Speaker 1: the most part, Matt Forte has to be loving the
Speaker 1: Mark trust Man effect. He's already one third of the
Speaker 1: way to his reception total from last year. That's true.
Speaker 1: Two lanes own hundred and six yards from scrimmage today
Speaker 1: eleven catches. The Vikings have to win with defense and running,
Speaker 1: and that their defense is not playing well. One a
Speaker 1: little nugget from that game in my reading of the
Speaker 1: games after did a lot of reading um, Jared Allen
Speaker 1: was actually on one of the last teams to start
Speaker 1: oh and two and go to the playoffs with that
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight Vikings team, and he was walking
Speaker 1: around the locker room after reminding everyone of that, I
Speaker 1: don't see that happening, and uh yeah, two other facts
Speaker 1: that Cutler was sacked one. So it's just been once
Speaker 1: in two games, which obviously is a big upgrade from
Speaker 1: last season, although that was a little deceiving because he
Speaker 1: did face a lot of pressure. And then Christian Ponder,
Speaker 1: you know, I said on Friday, I thought if he
Speaker 1: had a bad game, you'd start hearing buzz that he
Speaker 1: could be in trouble. I don't think that's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: because he did lead the team on three field goal
Speaker 1: drives in the second half that that should have put
Speaker 1: the game away, but ultimately didn't. So he played poorly
Speaker 1: in the first half through a pick six, but played
Speaker 1: I think well enough in the second half where you're
Speaker 1: not going to see him on the bench at least
Speaker 1: in the There's a tour before the game that he's
Speaker 1: on a shorter least than anyone imagined, and that was
Speaker 1: from Jay Glazer. So that that means they're gonna they're
Speaker 1: gonna have to start, They're gonna have to start winning.
Speaker 1: You're probably right that he played well until that'll David,
Speaker 1: But they're gonna have to start winning at some point.
Speaker 1: All right, let's move vio. Let's go to Lambeau where
Speaker 1: the Redskins ran into a buzz saw, didn't they, Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: They did, and they're not helping themselves with that uh
Speaker 1: mockery of a defense they're running out there. The Packers
Speaker 1: had four offensive players with career highs and yards today
Speaker 1: west by the way. Just to interject, you sound like
Speaker 1: the voice of a man that slept in a dungeon.
Speaker 1: Well it's it's a guesthouse by the way that's furnished
Speaker 1: Kato Kalin of Sessler's neighborhood to life. All right, go ahead, sorry,
Speaker 1: so anyway, Yeah, so four players starts James Jones, Randall Cobb,
Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers head career days today for yards. Uh.
Speaker 1: And this comes after Lashawn McCoy had one yard off
Speaker 1: a career day in the opener Redskins defense. He's allowing
Speaker 1: three two passing yards per game and two hundred one
Speaker 1: rushing yards per game. They're terrible. Uh. The other big
Speaker 1: takeaway from me was r G three looked pretty much
Speaker 1: like he did in the opener, can't he can't move
Speaker 1: of the offense until the until the game's out of
Speaker 1: hand and the defense slacks off a little bit. He's
Speaker 1: uh taken over from Carson Palmer's the garbage garbage time
Speaker 1: king in the NFL. Wow, you don't want to be
Speaker 1: compared to garbage Carson Palmer, Robert Griffin the third and
Speaker 1: he's moving about as well as Carson Palmer right now too.
Speaker 1: So you're saying Brandon Merryweather was not the savior for
Speaker 1: the Redskins defense. Why did we hear that so much?
Speaker 1: It's bizarre. He's one of the worst coverage safeties in
Speaker 1: the NFL, and we just heard all around the news
Speaker 1: room and in the media, Brandon Meryweather is going to
Speaker 1: be this key to the Redskins defense. Well, there's a
Speaker 1: reason he doesn't stay on the field. He goes after
Speaker 1: late Eddie Lacey knocks him out with a concussion on
Speaker 1: a very questionable helmet to helmet hit. Think he'll get
Speaker 1: fine for that, and then he knocks himself out on
Speaker 1: a similar play with James Starks and Merryweather goes out.
Speaker 1: I have two quarterback questions for you, West, or maybe
Speaker 1: just statements that maybe you could um add to number one.
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is clearly the best quarterback in the planet Earth, right. Yes,
Speaker 1: first became the first quarterback since y A. Tittle in
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty two to throw for four touchdowns, four in
Speaker 1: eight yards and no interceptions. That's not bad. And then
Speaker 1: my other question is to follow up with r G
Speaker 1: three when you say he's not moving well, is it
Speaker 1: because he's not healthy or he doesn't maybe trust himself, Like,
Speaker 1: what kind of level of not moving well are we
Speaker 1: talking about? Well? I would say he ran like a
Speaker 1: four three forty before the knee injury. He's probably running
Speaker 1: about a four nine forty now. He's just not fast.
Speaker 1: With RG three, last week, it was throwing off the
Speaker 1: front foot. He just looked completely off. Were you seeing
Speaker 1: that same thing again today? I wouldn't say to the
Speaker 1: extent he did last week. He's but he's not getting
Speaker 1: as much on the he doesn't have the easy gas
Speaker 1: that he had last year. I'm just happy that the
Speaker 1: Packers performed well enough to prevent Mark from frothing at
Speaker 1: the mouth at them again. I have them going nine
Speaker 1: and seven their one and one. They're right on target.
Speaker 1: Your little pep talk really got got them a little
Speaker 1: fire under and by the way, he threw for yards
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, but only tied Matt Flynn. Correct, that's disturbing.
Speaker 1: I heard macarthy. Actually usually you know they put up
Speaker 1: you know, quotes around the locker room of people to
Speaker 1: find they actually played our podcast in the locker room
Speaker 1: to get the Packers fired up. That was a weird move,
Speaker 1: but it worked. Um, good job by you. And by
Speaker 1: the way, Aaron Rodgers is on team Alison Bree market
Speaker 1: ized NFL Desk League team. Good job, Aaron. We're really proud. Yeah. Um, alright,
Speaker 1: moving on, I was in charge of watching the Houston
Speaker 1: Texans Tennessee Titans matchup. A very good game. Texans once again. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're almost like the anti Bucks where they are snatching
Speaker 1: um victory from the jaws of defeat. They won thirty
Speaker 1: twenty four and overtime. Um. Andre Johnson got hurt and
Speaker 1: that's something to keep an eye on. Big takeaway from
Speaker 1: me though, was DeAndre Hopkins, who looks like the real deal.
Speaker 1: He played well on Monday night against the Chargers, and
Speaker 1: then today he had he was basically the best receiver
Speaker 1: on the field. He had seven catches a hundred seventeen
Speaker 1: yards and a great game ending catch in overtime in
Speaker 1: the end zone. So they might have finally found that
Speaker 1: second guy complimented wide receiver, and uh it changed their
Speaker 1: offense a lot. Minor footnote. That was my offensive Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year pick. How about the Tate Foster dynamic
Speaker 1: in this one? It was all It's funny. It was
Speaker 1: almost identical. I believe Foster at nineteen carries and Tate nine.
Speaker 1: This was after Monday night when Foster at eighteen carries
Speaker 1: in Tate nine. So the workload is evenly distributed again
Speaker 1: on somewhat well, it's not even, but it's the same
Speaker 1: type of breakdown which we were told that's how it
Speaker 1: was going to play out. But again, uh, Tate ran better.
Speaker 1: I mean he ran for ninety yards on nine carries.
Speaker 1: Much of that was on a sixty yard or early
Speaker 1: in the game. But I thought Foster looked better. And
Speaker 1: I think t it's just a really good runner who's
Speaker 1: gonna get some money next year. The Titans were really
Speaker 1: close in this game to being the surprise team in
Speaker 1: the NFL so far this season. Even the fact that
Speaker 1: they were close to me is a is a surprise
Speaker 1: after winning last week. Greg Williams has to be one
Speaker 1: of the early season stories. Right. It's funny by the
Speaker 1: way that you say that, because I'm trying to wrap
Speaker 1: my head around this. We everyone says Greg Williams, but
Speaker 1: Jerry Gray is the defensive coordinators, So like, what what
Speaker 1: is the dynamic inside that building? And do you think
Speaker 1: Jerry Grays? Like why do you keep on people keep
Speaker 1: on saying Greg Williams when I'm the d C. Well,
Speaker 1: nothing else changed about the defense, but suddenly they're doing
Speaker 1: crazy things and you know, suddenly they're much better. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's he looks he still has that kind of evil
Speaker 1: Greg Williams look on the sideline. Maybe that's just adding
Speaker 1: some intimidation that's taking them to the next level. I
Speaker 1: don't know, but they really did look good on do
Speaker 1: they look very good on defensive. It's gonna get swept
Speaker 1: under because of of the loss, and they gave up
Speaker 1: thirty points ultimately, but they made some really nice plays
Speaker 1: that One other takeaway I had on the Texans side
Speaker 1: was their kicker Randy Bullock. Uh, he's now one for
Speaker 1: five on the season and he missed the forty seven
Speaker 1: yard or that would end of the game. So he's
Speaker 1: probably talking about short leashes. He could be on one.
Speaker 1: We don't talk about kickers around here. Do you guys
Speaker 1: want to hear this? You know you guys want to
Speaker 1: hear that Greg Williams text that Mark sent to a
Speaker 1: girl that I've been talking to. Yeah. Wait, yeah, last
Speaker 1: night laid up real quick because he allows me to
Speaker 1: send text to this woman friend of his. Yes, Mark
Speaker 1: was at the Mark was at the controls of my phone.
Speaker 1: They think it's coming from That's the point. And this
Speaker 1: was last night before the dungeon. This text was sent
Speaker 1: last night before the dungeon while we were in a bar. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna give you the cliffs Knows Virgin.
Speaker 1: They're playing in the basement where thirty teens are nestled
Speaker 1: up to forty ounces of Peps's American beer and pot cigarettes.
Speaker 1: They are smoky, multiple pot cigarettes. While I ponder the
Speaker 1: defensive front of the Tennessee Titans, which is so obviously
Speaker 1: being orchestrated by Greg Williams. It bothers me to know
Speaker 1: ed that people still cling to the half truth that
Speaker 1: Jerry Gray is running Tennessee's tight defense the Titans decent
Speaker 1: was not multiple, but it was attacking and bared the
Speaker 1: marks of Williams to the core. I believe in the
Speaker 1: defensive Rocky top. I believe in the far corners of society.
Speaker 1: I know that the red car of Rockland drives with
Speaker 1: a fury into the forest of North Sweden. What was
Speaker 1: her response? I hope she has a good text player.
Speaker 1: Question marks only two. I'm almost surprised there weren't multiple.
Speaker 1: And then a police phone call. Sorry, well, I don't
Speaker 1: think you'll be hearing from her again. I feel like
Speaker 1: I know too much now about everyone involved. Alright, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: we should just move on after that. Mark, what's going
Speaker 1: on in your brain? I don't know that was twelve
Speaker 1: hours ago. All right, let's move Let's move to Indianapolis
Speaker 1: where the Miami Dolphins. Nice win there over the Colts. Greg,
Speaker 1: you watched that one, Yeah, and Ryan Tannehill and Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck both played well. I thought it was kind of
Speaker 1: the duel. I expected defenses played better at the end,
Speaker 1: and I'm just wondering how many more of these types
Speaker 1: of games we're gonna need to get. Tannehill in that
Speaker 1: discussion with the rest of his two thousand twelve class
Speaker 1: because he was sensational. You know, people say Andrew Luck
Speaker 1: carries the Colts. You know he he doesn't have as
Speaker 1: much to work with. Well, Tannehill had worse protection today
Speaker 1: than than Luck did. He was under durest more. Uh
Speaker 1: I think t Y Hilton made the play of the game.
Speaker 1: You know, Luck has Reggie Wayne. Tannehill is working with
Speaker 1: you know, an okay wide receiver group, and he had
Speaker 1: a number of throws, especially to heartline, that were very
Speaker 1: difficult to make. And uh I thought he played well
Speaker 1: and ultimately Brent Grimes and the Dolphins defense was the
Speaker 1: key that to kind of pull it out in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Let me ask you a a quick one because
Speaker 1: I always suspect of teams to go on these massive
Speaker 1: free agency binges and a lot of times it just
Speaker 1: completely implodes, I mean in all sports. But it looks
Speaker 1: like Miami's is actually and especially it had they had
Speaker 1: Dustin Keller. It's sort of working out early on. Oh,
Speaker 1: it absolutely is. Brent Grimes has to be one of
Speaker 1: the best free agent signings of the off season overall,
Speaker 1: considering the money he's getting paid. He locked up Wayne
Speaker 1: today did a very nice job. I thought made the
Speaker 1: play of the game on an interception in the end
Speaker 1: zone where Luck basically threw it up for grabs, thinking,
Speaker 1: you know, not too crazy that Wayne would be the
Speaker 1: one to make the play. Instead, it was Grimes made
Speaker 1: a fantastic play. Uh. You know you mentioned in the
Speaker 1: linebackers earlier today when we were talking. They had a
Speaker 1: pretty solid game. I think you have to be very
Speaker 1: happy with the free agent pick up Mike. Mike Wallace
Speaker 1: bounced back to with over a hundred yards. They made
Speaker 1: sure to get him involved. I like what the coaching
Speaker 1: staff is doing there. And credit to Jeff Ireland because
Speaker 1: everyone knew Brent Rhymes was an excellent corner in Atlanta
Speaker 1: and okay, you blow out your achilles, that's a bad injury.
Speaker 1: But all you heard was positive reports about his health
Speaker 1: and it didn't seem like any teams really, you know,
Speaker 1: grasped at that opportunity to get a potential lockdown corner.
Speaker 1: I think he's thirty years old, so he wasn't that young,
Speaker 1: but still that was a nice That was a nice
Speaker 1: move to get him. That changes their secondary ellerb Wheeler
Speaker 1: and Grimes made the most plays on their defense, and uh,
Speaker 1: Wallace obviously the big free agent pick up. You know,
Speaker 1: they got him involved with screens and stuff over there.
Speaker 1: What wasn't a ton of big plays, but then got
Speaker 1: a big play in the second half, so it was good.
Speaker 1: It was It was a very evenly played game. I
Speaker 1: think the refs took four points off the board for
Speaker 1: the Colts at one point, so I think it could
Speaker 1: have gone either way. But that there too a no
Speaker 1: and to a O on the road for Miami, which
Speaker 1: is pretty impressive. It's worth noting that the one free
Speaker 1: agent signy who was injured has been capably replaced by
Speaker 1: Charles Clay. Yeah, Clay Clay is a big part of
Speaker 1: that often. Not only is he a tight end making
Speaker 1: some plays, but he was actually their goal line back
Speaker 1: today and got a touchdown, So you don't see that
Speaker 1: too often. Greg, If I offered you, okay, you're the
Speaker 1: GM of the Colts, and I offered you Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: and a first round pick in two thousand fourteen and
Speaker 1: a second round pick in two thousand thirteen two fifteen
Speaker 1: for Andrew Luck, would you pull the trigger. No. I
Speaker 1: don't think you mess around with a top shelf quarterback
Speaker 1: like Luck that I think Luck can be. I mean,
Speaker 1: we've talked about seeing Luck as a potential m v
Speaker 1: P Canada top five quarterback. I believe in Ryan Tannehill
Speaker 1: and I think he has every everything you could want
Speaker 1: in a quarterback. But he's not Andrew Luck. Now, Andrew
Speaker 1: Luck is off the table. But aren't these aren't these
Speaker 1: but to your original point, but are aren't these? Uh?
Speaker 1: Other young quarterback all guys that people have high hopes
Speaker 1: that they could have Hall of Fame level careers? Do
Speaker 1: you think Ryan Tannehill has a hall of Fame level
Speaker 1: career in him? No, not necessarily, but take him. It
Speaker 1: wouldn't be that It wouldn't be that shocking to me.
Speaker 1: If put it this way, I won't be surprised if
Speaker 1: he has a better career than Russell Wilson, and I
Speaker 1: think he can be right there. Uh with Robert Griffin
Speaker 1: the third who really knows, It wouldn't surprise me if
Speaker 1: he has a better career than one or two of
Speaker 1: those guys. That's what I'm saying. Okay, let's go Greg
Speaker 1: you again. You also did the Casey Dallas game Kansas City,
Speaker 1: UH seventeen sixteen win over the Cowboys. Tell us about
Speaker 1: that game? Defensive game again, very evenly played. I don't
Speaker 1: think Cowboys fans should be freaking out. I thought for
Speaker 1: much of the day, Tony Romo played very well, got
Speaker 1: protected well. The Chiefs defense uh stopped the run completely. Uh.
Speaker 1: Dez Bryant made a number of big plays, but ultimately
Speaker 1: Andrew Reid's kind of showing he can win with defense
Speaker 1: and running. It was a really weird game. I mean,
Speaker 1: Alex Smith led the Chiefs and rushing. The Chiefs didn't
Speaker 1: move the ball, but they were very effective in the
Speaker 1: two times they did move the ball. They scored touchdowns
Speaker 1: and their two and no, I mean the Chiefs have
Speaker 1: are already you know, matched their win total from a
Speaker 1: year ago. It seems like I heard you say on
Speaker 1: four separate occasions during that game that Dez Bryant just
Speaker 1: made the play of the day. Well, that was all
Speaker 1: in the first right. Dez Bryant put together a first
Speaker 1: quarter and really a first half that just has to
Speaker 1: be seen to believe. He just kept stacking incredible play
Speaker 1: after incredible play, had a hundred yards in the first quarter,
Speaker 1: I believe. But the Chiefs you gotta get you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta give them credit. Right now, I think their
Speaker 1: defense has shown that they're not a fluke. It was
Speaker 1: a don Terry Po had another couple of sacks today,
Speaker 1: I believe. I know. I said that the Cowboys protected
Speaker 1: Romo well overall, but they didn't do as well in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. And Romo, who played a really good game,
Speaker 1: had a bad fourth quarter. And I think all that
Speaker 1: clutch stuff is overrated, but he had a bad fourth
Speaker 1: So another Tony Romo microcosm type game at a believe
Speaker 1: in that whole narrative. If someone wanted to kill Romo
Speaker 1: for not playing well in the clutch today would be
Speaker 1: a good way to do it. Elliott Harrison will tell
Speaker 1: you that Tony Romo is the best fourth quarter right
Speaker 1: rating in the Elliott Harrison will tell you the Tony
Speaker 1: Romo will walk on water. You know what is the
Speaker 1: most disturbing um takeaway from this game for me is
Speaker 1: that I discovered after the game that the Chiefs wore
Speaker 1: red tops and red pants, which you've never seen them do.
Speaker 1: It's like a complete uniform change. Galvanized the team obviously
Speaker 1: propelled him to this win. I asked Greg, Greg, give
Speaker 1: me your take on the red top red bottoms. Greg
Speaker 1: doesn't even remember seeing it. This is the guy that
Speaker 1: we've assigned to the game that I don't play. I
Speaker 1: don't pay attention to the room uniforms. I'm not a
Speaker 1: big on the jersey numbers disturbs. I watched, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: did the Titans again, and immediately I noticed that these
Speaker 1: grizzly blue on blue, this attire. I'm not the Damna
Speaker 1: check uniform monitor, but some things you notice immediately. I'm
Speaker 1: not look, I'm not a fashion expert here. I was
Speaker 1: too busy getting excited about Alex Smith. Everyone kills and
Speaker 1: me can't go down the field. The play of the game,
Speaker 1: uh was him getting out of the way of would
Speaker 1: be socker and thrown about thirty yards up the field
Speaker 1: on a third and long and they score a touchdown
Speaker 1: on that drive. Is this a playoff team? We picked
Speaker 1: them to go nine and seven. I think that's the
Speaker 1: perfect pick for them. Nine and seven. Our next game,
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles. You know they had the great start on
Speaker 1: Monday night. Now they had their home opener against the
Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers. Everything was set up for, you know,
Speaker 1: another blowout win and everyone who was gonna get excited, Instead,
Speaker 1: the Chargers beat him thirty three thirty. Kevin Patra are
Speaker 1: Chicago at L correspondent, our colleague actually based in Detroit
Speaker 1: right now, but we have him on the phone and
Speaker 1: he's going to tell us all about the game that
Speaker 1: he watched. Patra, Yeah, yam, buddy. Eagles did not start
Speaker 1: as as hot as they did last Monday night. You know.
Speaker 1: The interesting thing to me about watching the game, as
Speaker 1: we talked a lot about how Michael Vick, how they
Speaker 1: would protect him, how many hits he would take, and
Speaker 1: he really didn't run the ball much. Only six carries
Speaker 1: and one with the touchdown the fourth quarter that wasn't designed.
Speaker 1: They didn't really run the whole lot of ead option.
Speaker 1: Uh McCoy only had eleven carries. They were They threw
Speaker 1: the ball a tount just all over the field. Uh
Speaker 1: Vic had yards passing, I really thought. I mean they
Speaker 1: took shots. We know Chip Kelly and one thing about
Speaker 1: him is gonna take some shotdown field, and that's what
Speaker 1: they did all day. De Sean Jack had one long touchdown.
Speaker 1: He should have had two other ones. Vick let him
Speaker 1: out of bound on one and then the other one.
Speaker 1: He it was a stupid penalty brought it back and
Speaker 1: that was happening with the Eagles. They just kind of
Speaker 1: shut themselves in the foot whole, a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: defense did not play well. Let the Charger to pick
Speaker 1: him apart all day. Hey, what's up with the resurrection
Speaker 1: of Philip Rivers. Yeah, I mean you looked at it him.
Speaker 1: He just ran that McCoy offense just beautifully. I mean
Speaker 1: he was getting the ball out of his hands very quickly.
Speaker 1: I mean he saw it on any row of three touchdowns.
Speaker 1: They were quick packing and a couple of Brookes Eagles
Speaker 1: couldn't and he was in the end up a second.
Speaker 1: You just said, Eddie Royals three touchdowns, just kind of
Speaker 1: sliding that in there. That was like that was an
Speaker 1: every day occurrence. Eddie roy I'm expecting to at least
Speaker 1: two weeks now, right, he expected. He looks good. He
Speaker 1: gave Bryce McCain fits in in the first week. I wrote.
Speaker 1: I wrote something a few weeks ago that I remember,
Speaker 1: five or six years ago, I thought Eddie Royal was
Speaker 1: the next West Welker. I mean that was a long
Speaker 1: time ago. It seems like he's been gone finally healthy again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean they're not they're not. They're not giving him
Speaker 1: out where he's got, he's time to develop, they're getting
Speaker 1: it in their their hands quickly, and he made some place.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. Tell me, this has to
Speaker 1: be a talking point coming up. I'm not a time
Speaker 1: of possession guy, neither as Chip Kelly. But it was
Speaker 1: forty minutes to nineteen minutes for the Eagles, and and
Speaker 1: the Chargers had seventy nine plays in the game, So
Speaker 1: it wasn't like the Eagles were racking up plays. They
Speaker 1: actually had twenty fewer plays. Yeah this week. I mean
Speaker 1: they had three the first half last week. And that
Speaker 1: goes that speaks to the Chargers game plan. They was
Speaker 1: just you know, pick them apart. I mean they had
Speaker 1: a drive where I think they had eight team plays
Speaker 1: and they ended up settling for a field bolt. But
Speaker 1: it was just you know, quick plays and Rivers is
Speaker 1: getting them to the line. It wasn't like they were
Speaker 1: hadd laying taking their time and get them their line,
Speaker 1: keeping that defense on the field and then you know,
Speaker 1: making his calls from the line and then waiting until
Speaker 1: they were five or ten seconds on the clock and
Speaker 1: then they would like the ball. And then you know
Speaker 1: games five or six yards and and they do it
Speaker 1: all over again, and they just were picking apart, you know,
Speaker 1: a very suspect defense that just wore down as the
Speaker 1: game war on. Chargers had their most yards since yards
Speaker 1: and three touchdowns no intercept. That's pretty He looked very,
Speaker 1: very good and he obviously this is offensive that he
Speaker 1: works well and it's with his skill set and we're
Speaker 1: seeing it too. Yeah. Four And like I said, yet
Speaker 1: and big look looked good in the pocket. I mean,
Speaker 1: he wasn't struggling. They should have had more hunting. He
Speaker 1: probably should have storne for over five hundred yards. They
Speaker 1: met some big players, um and they kept going back
Speaker 1: to him, which was which is which is fun to
Speaker 1: see from a from a viewer's point of view. One
Speaker 1: one more real quick point, the Chip Kelly effect. The
Speaker 1: Eagles of the first team in NFL history to have
Speaker 1: a wide receiver with two fifty receiving yards and a
Speaker 1: running back with three fifty scrimmage yards through two weeks. Right, well, well,
Speaker 1: I wonder that how much more help they're gonna get because,
Speaker 1: like you said last week, at the end of the
Speaker 1: last week, how many hits are is uh McCoy gonna take?
Speaker 1: He had to get he looks as great. In the
Speaker 1: packing game, he only had fifty three yards rushing. They
Speaker 1: didn't really rush the ball a lot. I mean, so
Speaker 1: they're really relying on Seawan Jacks and with Shawn McCoy
Speaker 1: to be theirs. Alright, Patrick, so you are a Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions fan, as we know. I don't know if the
Speaker 1: listeners know also a Sue defender, which you know speaks
Speaker 1: to your character perhaps, but I don't know how if
Speaker 1: I'm a defender. I think he's a great player that
Speaker 1: it needs to get. You know, you liked it, um whatever.
Speaker 1: But since but since you're on the phone and your
Speaker 1: a Lions Van West actually was was the man who
Speaker 1: covered our Lions matchup today against the Arizona Cardinals. But
Speaker 1: why don't you stay on the line, West, tell us
Speaker 1: a little bit about the game. Lions win. My big
Speaker 1: excuse me, Cardinals win. My biggest takeaway from watching this
Speaker 1: game was that the better team did not win. The
Speaker 1: Lions self destructive. They had eight penalties for a hundred
Speaker 1: and one yards. The offense went in the tank after
Speaker 1: Reggie Bush's knee injury, and they basically gave the game away.
Speaker 1: Could this, you know, interpretation be colored by the fact
Speaker 1: that you were the only man to choose the Lions.
Speaker 1: It could be and that that is a conclusion that
Speaker 1: can be reached. But I'm saying, honestly, the Lions were
Speaker 1: the better team and they just shot themselves in the foot. Well,
Speaker 1: hold on, how are they the better team? When we
Speaker 1: see Detroit doing this kind of thing? I would think
Speaker 1: they had eight penalties for over a hundred yards today,
Speaker 1: they come across to me is a little bit undisciplined,
Speaker 1: and when Bush went out, I think they had ninety
Speaker 1: yards in the second half of offense. What what makes
Speaker 1: you say that they're, you know, automatically the better team
Speaker 1: here because I watched the game. Well just more talented though,
Speaker 1: I mean, but they did whatever they wanted until Bush
Speaker 1: got hurt. Patrick, What do you see? Yeah, every reason,
Speaker 1: exactly right? I mean, And I called I picked against
Speaker 1: the Lions because they usually go out west in lay
Speaker 1: an eight, And that's definitely gutless pick. You're a Lions
Speaker 1: fan and you picked against them, What do you wait? Okay,
Speaker 1: some you know that would be like saying, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: Handon's gotta pick the Jets every week. I saw this coming.
Speaker 1: It's not a surprise to me. I had the game unfolded.
Speaker 1: I said, I was telling my brother, We're not gonna
Speaker 1: win this game. Business. There's that's really no way we
Speaker 1: win this game. It just was unfold in that way.
Speaker 1: They couldn't move the ball on often. It felt like
Speaker 1: the Cardinals had the ball the entire second half. They
Speaker 1: couldn't do anything. Once the Cardinals could bracket, uh, Calvin Johnson.
Speaker 1: If they couldn't, there was there's no other playmakers on
Speaker 1: that offense. When Joyce felt is your next best playmaker,
Speaker 1: there are problems. Patrick, What's what are the chances that
Speaker 1: you are in a restroom in a Detroit dive bar
Speaker 1: locking the door speaking to us right now? I wish
Speaker 1: I'm actually an empty room where I'm set up. It's
Speaker 1: very I thought you might have been. You know the
Speaker 1: guy at the sports bar that and they have like
Speaker 1: a one in one out restroom and the guy just
Speaker 1: locks the door and just disappears. Sometimes it happens next week.
Speaker 1: There are easily easily work for that, all right, Kevin, Well,
Speaker 1: thank you for checking in with us. We should make
Speaker 1: this a weekly think because we love hearing your voice
Speaker 1: because it's kind of soothing on some level. I have
Speaker 1: to say maybe bi weekly. All right, Kevin, thank you, alright,
Speaker 1: Moving right along to the late games. Uh, I watched
Speaker 1: the Saints beat the Buck sixteen fourteen. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: the Bucks, Oh my god, the Bucks. They have the
Speaker 1: first two weeks of the season. They took a lead
Speaker 1: into the final minute of regulation, lost both games and
Speaker 1: lost and just grizzly fashion both times. More penalties today
Speaker 1: which killed him, including one of the worst penalties you
Speaker 1: can imagine. A seventy five yard Vincent Jackson touchdown was
Speaker 1: wiped away by an illegal formation with the right tackle
Speaker 1: not lining up on this line of scrimmage. This is
Speaker 1: the type of stuff we're talking about. There's no discipline here,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and then you have just execution
Speaker 1: Ryan Linley, Uh could have essentially maybe not ice the game,
Speaker 1: but putting them in a great position late in the
Speaker 1: fourth courthor field goal. He misses it. Three Drew Brees
Speaker 1: completions spiked the ball field goal game over sixteen fourteen,
Speaker 1: and the Bucks have to be wondering if they're ever
Speaker 1: gonna win. What with Josh Freeman, all the nonsense surrounding
Speaker 1: him of the last week, how did he do today?
Speaker 1: He didn't play very well. I mean the numbers speak
Speaker 1: to it. Uh Like I said that that everything things
Speaker 1: would have looked a lot different if he completed that
Speaker 1: past stands to Jackson. But ultimately the statistics, the stats
Speaker 1: aren't there, and and the offense isn't moving very well.
Speaker 1: They played really well in defense, actually played great on defense,
Speaker 1: which makes us even more frustrating. But uh yeah, you
Speaker 1: know this is this is a team where things could
Speaker 1: fall off the rails right now because these are two
Speaker 1: devastating losses to start a season. Free Freeman nine for
Speaker 1: twenty two. I do want to point out in the
Speaker 1: he made that throw to Jackson, which was a crazy penalty,
Speaker 1: so his numbers would have looked a lot different, and
Speaker 1: he had a great drive to set up that field goal.
Speaker 1: He made a number of really difficult throws. So if
Speaker 1: Ryan Lindell kicks that field goal and they win the game,
Speaker 1: I think the stories partly that Freeman after this crazy week,
Speaker 1: made a couple of great throws to win the game
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he had a great game, but I think
Speaker 1: it's worth noting. And by the way, they would have
Speaker 1: been saying the same thing last week because he led
Speaker 1: them on the go ahead field goal against the Jets
Speaker 1: set that up, and then Lavante David pushes Geno Smith
Speaker 1: at a bounds and that gets forgotten too. So, uh,
Speaker 1: Freeman doesn't look great. He's not playing necessarily great, But
Speaker 1: at the same time, their problems are more about discipline
Speaker 1: and it's killing them. Well, I wanna get to one
Speaker 1: of my favorite weekly recurring segments, which is when I
Speaker 1: asked Chris Wesley whether he believes in bad Santa and
Speaker 1: the Saints defense. Come on, I didn't see that game today,
Speaker 1: but I would say it's probably not hard to play
Speaker 1: great defense against Josh Freeman. Still not giving any credit.
Speaker 1: Come on, alright, moving on, we're going to hit Oh
Speaker 1: this was This was a grim one in New York,
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos beating up of the Giants. Greg Rosenthal
Speaker 1: had that game. Well, it's just uncanny how it was
Speaker 1: so similar to the Broncos game last week, where it
Speaker 1: was tight at halftime it was ten nine Broncos. You're
Speaker 1: wondering when are they going to break out, and then
Speaker 1: it ends up being the laugher. And my big takeaway
Speaker 1: is they've won these two games and blowouts, and they
Speaker 1: can get so much better. I mean, the Broncos just
Speaker 1: won by eighteen in New York. Wes Welker dropped every
Speaker 1: other past that was thrown to him today to Marius
Speaker 1: Thomas had a bad game, monty ball fumbled on the
Speaker 1: goal line and was pretty much a disaster. Twelve carries
Speaker 1: for sixteen yards, and yet here they are racking up
Speaker 1: forty points. Oh, by the way, Champ Bailey's out and
Speaker 1: von Miller's out and the defense is playing well. I
Speaker 1: think Jack del Rio and John Fox deserve a lot
Speaker 1: of credit. The two thousand seven Patriots watch. I have
Speaker 1: a few stats for you, guys. Peyton Manning joins Drew
Speaker 1: Brees is only a second quarterback in history to throw
Speaker 1: for nine touchdowns in the first two games of the season.
Speaker 1: The Green Bay Packers have sixty six points second in
Speaker 1: the NFL. The Broncos have sixty six points in the
Speaker 1: second half. Wow, without even including the first halfs of games. Uh.
Speaker 1: And they are the seventh team in NFL history too,
Speaker 1: to rack up forty points in the first two games.
Speaker 1: Each of the first two games of the season. Well,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, in both weeks we've seen them.
Speaker 1: Like you said, it looks tight it looks like the
Speaker 1: opponent has some semblance of a chance, and then the
Speaker 1: Broncos just unleashed this waterfall of points and it's you're
Speaker 1: right there. Last week it was Decca right who dropped
Speaker 1: a ton of passes. It's like, you don't need every
Speaker 1: key player to show up two weeks in a row.
Speaker 1: Someone's going to fill in the gap when someone's not
Speaker 1: playing well. Yeah, trendon holiday, you know gets a kickoff
Speaker 1: returns or punt returned rather, so you know that helps
Speaker 1: No Sean Moreno had I timed it the slowest twenty
Speaker 1: five yard rushing touchdown in NFL history watching him versus
Speaker 1: the Giants linebackers, you could have timed it with like
Speaker 1: a uh. But it didn't matter. Everything's going well for
Speaker 1: this team. I want to be the first guy to
Speaker 1: get on the ken. The Broncos goes sixteen and no bandwagon.
Speaker 1: I figure in week two, I'm in a good spot
Speaker 1: because no one would be stupid enough to do that,
Speaker 1: but I will be, and I'll look at their upcoming
Speaker 1: schedule just to get to the bye week. Home to Raiders,
Speaker 1: home to Eagles, at Cowboys, home to Jags at Colts,
Speaker 1: home to Redskins. I feel pretty good at eight. No
Speaker 1: at the break there, then they get von millerback, and
Speaker 1: then they get von millerback, So mark it down. I
Speaker 1: was the stupid one who talked undefeated season in Week two.
Speaker 1: All right, up next we have the Oakland Raiders ninete
Speaker 1: victory over the Jacksonville Jaguars. It's only fitting that West
Speaker 1: watch this one because West has now picked the Jaguars
Speaker 1: to win two weeks in a row and has been
Speaker 1: and I won't be picking them again. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: pick them next week at Seattle. By the way, I
Speaker 1: have a one time offer for everyone. The Hero Pick
Speaker 1: Committee had an emergency meeting today and if you pick
Speaker 1: the Jaguars to win in Seattle and you're right, you
Speaker 1: get three Hero picks for that selection. If you're right,
Speaker 1: not doing it after after I saw this game, I'm
Speaker 1: not doing it. It's fitting that their first touchdown of
Speaker 1: the season came in garbage time and it was by
Speaker 1: a player they claimed off waivers two weeks ago, Clay Harbor.
Speaker 1: They were without for this game most of the game.
Speaker 1: They were without Maurice Jones Drew. They were without their
Speaker 1: leading receiver from last year, Justin Blackman, and they were
Speaker 1: without Mercedes Lewis. They're tight end, and it showed they
Speaker 1: couldn't move the ball. Let me ask you an Oakland question,
Speaker 1: because I think we all would have agreed in August.
Speaker 1: This roster is a shambles. There's a lot of issues
Speaker 1: all over the place. But listen, they played the Cults
Speaker 1: much tighter than people thought, especially on defense. I find
Speaker 1: them intriguing, and they go out today and take care
Speaker 1: of business. What is it that we were wrong about
Speaker 1: in August? Nothing? So you don't have a good team.
Speaker 1: Westleyn is not worried about his softball pants. No. I
Speaker 1: think the one thing we're wronging about is probably their
Speaker 1: defense has a little bit more backbone than we thought. Right,
Speaker 1: I'm not convinced they've played a great offense yet. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Colts scored at will early in the game, and
Speaker 1: then to me, I thought kind of got too conservative.
Speaker 1: But um, I think offensively, Terrell Prior he helps McFadden
Speaker 1: had a hundred fifty something yards today because of the
Speaker 1: threat of Terrell Prior running. So I think they can
Speaker 1: do some things on offense that we didn't think they
Speaker 1: could do. Don't you think the defense deserves a little more.
Speaker 1: I thought the defense they have more than we hope
Speaker 1: and that's pace they they allowed a touchdown to. The
Speaker 1: Jaguars have good thing? Can they be are you? Are
Speaker 1: you marinating those soutball pants? Are they not? Not yet?
Speaker 1: They I'm not really worried yet. If they get to
Speaker 1: three wins by midst season, I'll be I'll be worried.
Speaker 1: You know that the Jaguars fans get a lot of
Speaker 1: grief for their support, sometimes definitely too much, and they're
Speaker 1: very sensitive. But you gotta feel for them right now.
Speaker 1: Any support they're given is is probably more than this team,
Speaker 1: you know deserves. This is rough. And that takes us
Speaker 1: to the final game of Sunday, the Sunday night game,
Speaker 1: much anticipated the Seahawks at home against the Niners West.
Speaker 1: You said on Friday that you thought at this stage
Speaker 1: that Seattle was unbeatable at home. You might be right,
Speaker 1: because they made the Niners look very pedestrian. Today it
Speaker 1: reminds me a little bit of last year's game in Seattle.
Speaker 1: Not quite the blowout from the offensive point of view,
Speaker 1: but the fact that Kaepernick is having his worst game
Speaker 1: of the year, or the worst game he's had since
Speaker 1: that game, So I think that's it's just it just
Speaker 1: shows how hard it is to win up there. I
Speaker 1: think it's worth noting that. And I said this downstairs
Speaker 1: to Greg that now, Kaepernick, this was not his best game. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the entire team didn't play well when they went to
Speaker 1: Seattle last December. Um, you know, Seattle's got to be
Speaker 1: feeling good if they get a home game looking ahead
Speaker 1: to the Plass. I know we shouldn't be looking ahead
Speaker 1: at this point. That's pretty far ahead, but we all
Speaker 1: believe these two teams. I know San Francisco didn't play
Speaker 1: well tonight, but these two teams are both, you know,
Speaker 1: very good teams going forward. But Seattle has to be
Speaker 1: feeling good now that they might be even in San
Speaker 1: Francisco's head a little bit with you. You better beat
Speaker 1: us for this division title or it could be welcome
Speaker 1: back to quest Field and trouble again. Well, could I
Speaker 1: just point out that this game was a little bit
Speaker 1: of a disappointment. That the Manning Bowl and the Seahawks
Speaker 1: was the two games we were you know, heard most
Speaker 1: about all week, and it was a great football Sunday,
Speaker 1: But these two games weren't great. I'm looking forward to
Speaker 1: you know, seeing back on you know tape what the
Speaker 1: two defenses did. But you're struggling if you're the forty niners.
Speaker 1: If you hold Russell Wilson to whatever he was in
Speaker 1: the first half of you know, he had like a
Speaker 1: baseball line at one point one for nine. He was
Speaker 1: over five to start the game. And yet they go
Speaker 1: in the halftime up five nothing and then they end
Speaker 1: up you know, coasting in the second half. And as
Speaker 1: much as we credited an Kwon Bolden last week, and
Speaker 1: he deserved it, I think we can see tonight, while
Speaker 1: he's not a number one receiver, Richard Sherman just shut
Speaker 1: him down. Quite a performance. It's not the first cornerback
Speaker 1: to shut an Kwon Bolden down, and Sherman basically you
Speaker 1: know the game I seek interception there. He he danced
Speaker 1: with the cheerleaders and you know he he has a
Speaker 1: personal vendetta against Jim Harbaugh. He thinks that he didn't
Speaker 1: take care of him, uh during his college days when
Speaker 1: people came to visit with Stanford and ask about him.
Speaker 1: So that had to be feeling good. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree though, Greg, that this was a disappointing game. Hopefully
Speaker 1: when they meet up again, we'll get something better. So
Speaker 1: that's it for Sunday. We went around the league. We
Speaker 1: have one more game tomorrow night Pittsburgh Cincinnati, which should
Speaker 1: be a good one. We will be back on Wednesday.
Speaker 1: We will recap the Monday night game and all the
Speaker 1: news that's going on also huge Wednesday. Don't forget we're
Speaker 1: playing when West's toaster. Are you ready for that? West?
Speaker 1: I am. I don't know if I've I don't know
Speaker 1: if I don't feel like this time pick it up.
Speaker 1: I think around here this time, you told me you're
Speaker 1: not gonna do like the stats from last season stuff.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do more. We're gonna I'm gonna change the
Speaker 1: questions a little bit blatantly to try to make you
Speaker 1: a little more of a dominant force, because that's like
Speaker 1: the key to this game work. This is going to
Speaker 1: get some you know, needs to get some rest. In
Speaker 1: the meantime. I feel like, if you want to if
Speaker 1: you want to be you want to take West his
Speaker 1: toast or take about for some drinks in corn Hall
Speaker 1: the time before, why don't we just give him a
Speaker 1: couple of days off and just bring him back into
Speaker 1: the game and of course. Besides that, I'm excited for
Speaker 1: when West's toast, of course, but I'm even more excited
Speaker 1: for the k Rich listening party of her theme music
Speaker 1: hashtag Bnker's Sacks. So get ready for that because that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. But until then, enjoy
Speaker 1: the Monday night game and we will be back on
Speaker 1: WEDNESDA